Forum logs for 25 Apr 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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stevenroose | hi | [00:22] |
stevenroose | I'm looking for a bitcoin exchange that features free SEPA-transfers | [00:22] |
stevenroose | Tradehill had those | [00:22] |
stevenroose | but sadly they had to go | [00:22] |
stevenroose | mtgox doesnt | [00:22] |
stevenroose | anyone an idea? | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | hm, maybe intersango ? | [00:23] |
stevenroose | i checked thatone | [00:24] |
stevenroose | dont remember how it was there | [00:24] |
stevenroose | guess they are in poland as well | [00:24] |
stevenroose | charge 10 PLN a deposit | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | cyberexchange ? | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | and there was some russian thing, but i don't recall right off | [00:25] |
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Jamalaka | hm, bitcoin.de ? | [00:35] |
Jamalaka | they take some tx-fee.. | [00:35] |
Jamalaka | but you can do sepa | [00:36] |
Jamalaka | it's an otc-exchange | [00:36] |
Jamalaka | but without gpg and stuff ;) | [00:36] |
Mqrius | stevenroose: bitstamp has free sepa deposit, 0.90 cent sepa withdrawal. | [00:39] |
Mqrius | bitcoin.de doesn't escrow fiat, indeed. | [00:39] |
stevenroose | any experience with bitcoin.de? | [00:41] |
stevenroose | the website looks more professional than intersango :) | [00:41] |
Mqrius | Yep. Their system works nice | [00:41] |
Mqrius | If you're familiar with bitmarket.eu, it's similar, but set up better. | [00:42] |
stevenroose | do they charge for sepa deposits or withdrawals? | [00:42] |
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Mqrius | They don't do deposits/withdrawals | [00:42] |
stevenroose | ah | [00:42] |
Mqrius | Basically you send the sepa to the seller directly | [00:42] |
stevenroose | it's a person-to-person exchange | [00:42] |
stevenroose | hmm | [00:42] |
Mqrius | Yeah | [00:42] |
Mqrius | the bitcoins are locked though | [00:42] |
Mqrius | so there's security. | [00:42] |
stevenroose | how so? | [00:42] |
stevenroose | they are bitcoin=middle man | [00:43] |
stevenroose | -* | [00:43] |
stevenroose | but not cash-middleman? | [00:43] |
Mqrius | Yeah | [00:43] |
stevenroose | weir | [00:43] |
stevenroose | d | [00:43] |
stevenroose | seems an open door to scammers | [00:43] |
Mqrius | How so? | [00:43] |
stevenroose | if you dont pay, who can proof whether you did or not? | [00:43] |
stevenroose | who's gonna get the btc in a conflict/ | [00:43] |
Mqrius | Probably they'd judge in favor of the person who has done tens of succesfull trades | [00:43] |
Mqrius | Or in favor of the one that actually responds to their mail. | [00:44] |
stevenroose | yeah it's good to have a sort of reputation thing like you have here as well | [00:44] |
Mqrius | Point is, it's not an "easy" scam. You'd have to convince admins and everything, and it would be a lot of effort. | [00:44] |
Mqrius | Yeah, there's a reputation system | [00:44] |
Mqrius | and if you have no trades, you can only buy small amounts. | [00:45] |
stevenroose | but I think it's not up to the service to decided who's scamming and who isn't | [00:45] |
Mqrius | Usually the users can resolve it themselves. | [00:45] |
Mqrius | They have to; neither one has the bitcoins while they haven't figured it out :P | [00:45] |
Mqrius | The service would come in only in special cases. | [00:45] |
stevenroose | no, but a person could just make a bunch of small random trades and than start scamming because he has the highest reputation | [00:45] |
stevenroose | anyway | [00:45] |
stevenroose | will check out intersango :p | [00:46] |
stevenroose | im looking for a free-sepa-transfer-service | [00:46] |
stevenroose | :p | [00:46] |
stevenroose | I loved tradehill though :( | [00:46] |
Mqrius | Still, check out bitstamp | [00:46] |
Mqrius | intersango isn't free | [00:46] |
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Mqrius | It's relatively cheap. | [00:46] |
stevenroose | EUR (SEPA) 5 PLN (1.23 EUR) 5 PLN (1.23 EUR) | [00:48] |
stevenroose | EUR (international) 10 PLN (2.46 EUR) You pay: Depends on intermediary banks and your bank | [00:48] |
stevenroose | Shared cost: 0.2%, capped: 9.5 PLN min, 180 PLN max | [00:48] |
stevenroose | We pay: 5 EUR equal to or lower than EUR 1000, 25 EUR higher than EUR 1000 | [00:48] |
stevenroose | 1.23 euro a transfer | [00:48] |
stevenroose | thats not cheap | [00:48] |
stevenroose | tradehill was 0.00 | [00:48] |
stevenroose | it's sad | [00:50] |
stevenroose | europe has the greatest economy, but can't even offer us just one bitcoin that offers free deposits/withdrawals | [00:51] |
stevenroose | bitcoin market* | [00:51] |
mircea_popescu | so you want free deposit, free withdrawal, and free trade. | [00:51] |
stevenroose | ne trades can have a fee | [00:53] |
stevenroose | that's normal | [00:53] |
stevenroose | but depositing and withdrawing should be free | [00:54] |
stevenroose | the are free at intersango and mtgox from their own point | [00:54] |
stevenroose | but their banks are charging | [00:54] |
stevenroose | because poland doesn't fully comply with EU laws | [00:54] |
stevenroose | most EU countries enforce free SEPA-transfers | [00:54] |
stevenroose | but poland does not | [00:54] |
stevenroose | (yet hopefully) | [00:54] |
stevenroose | so the banks are cashing 1.2 euro for every transfer made | [00:55] |
stevenroose | which I think is just scammin | [00:55] |
kakobrekla | depends on the bank | [00:55] |
stevenroose | yeah, both their banks | [00:55] |
kakobrekla | some banks charge 0 | [00:55] |
stevenroose | can't find any exchange that doesnt | [00:55] |
kakobrekla | for recieving its normally 0 | [00:55] |
stevenroose | tradehill was the only one | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | person to person | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | as the bank costs go | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | what exchanges charge... its another thing | [00:56] |
stevenroose | person to person, but I'm talking about person to company :) | [00:56] |
stevenroose | those exchanges charge nothing, they say it themselves | [00:56] |
stevenroose | 10PLN fee from the bank | [00:56] |
stevenroose | for SEPA | [00:56] |
stevenroose | and 20 PLN for international euro | [00:57] |
stevenroose | probably because poland doesnt use the euro | [00:57] |
stevenroose | hmm gonna check when they will | [00:57] |
stevenroose | It is currently projected that Poland will be able to join Euro zone in 2015 or later. There is no official information on the design process for the Polish national sides of the euro coins. | [00:57] |
stevenroose | the conclusion is, I like bitcoins, but as a euro-user it's just way to expensive to buy some | [00:59] |
stevenroose | or I need to do those person to person transactions | [00:59] |
stevenroose | but with them it's hard to speculate on falling/rising course prices :) | [00:59] |
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mircea_popescu | For my 12 GH/s I spent $11,670 and have made back $4,000 of it. I started on May 31, 2011. | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | Sam | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | this is really sad. less than 1/3 back in a year ? whoa. | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | stevenroose you can just speculate via options. | [01:07] |
guruvan | mircea_popescu: I saw a quick blip about MPEx offering difficulty based options - is that happening yet? | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | it is live since yest. | [01:10] |
guruvan | ok, and those are the one's marked "hash" etc? | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.HASH.C10TH that's the call | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.HASH.P10TH that's the put | [01:11] |
guruvan | awesome, thanks. | [01:12] |
mod6 | oh, i just now saw this! | [01:13] |
mod6 | (13:57) < mircea_popescu> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77958.0 | [01:13] |
mod6 | O_O | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. i dunno, does that mean intersangro ppl bought it ? | [01:14] |
guruvan | seemed more like they bought into it rather than buying outright (maybe even a sweat equity deal?) | [01:14] |
mod6 | yeah, maybe. | [01:14] |
guruvan | phantomcircuit said they'd move forward conservatively w/ regards to changing things there when I asked, if that's any indication | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | im guessing the kid just wanted to move on with his life. | [01:17] |
mod6 | ahh, interesting. What was special about NZ's laws? why did they move it there? | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | the exponential growth part was kinda done imo | [01:17] |
mod6 | maybe so, isn't he like 17? | [01:18] |
guruvan | he had me a little worried when I saw him on the forums cashing out heavily, and "diversifying his currency portfolio" - this is a good development | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | basically he built a nice forex bucket shop, made ~50k btc in 6 months, l;ost 40k of those in de vps hacks | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | then sold out for a sweet 1-200k usd in some instalment plan and that's that. | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | not a bad way to spend a year in highschool. | [01:28] |
mod6 | :D | [01:31] |
guruvan | not at all. I hope for his sake he got more out of the deal than that - it's likely to make some serious money as bitcoin grows. | [01:32] |
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ckshock | buy 5 btc at 4GBP ,paypal personal transfer | [01:42] |
ckshock | ;;buy 5 btc at 4GBP ,paypal personal transfer | [01:42] |
gribble | Error: '4GBP' is not a valid price input. | [01:42] |
ckshock | ;;buy 5 btc at 4 GBP ,paypal personal transfer | [01:42] |
gribble | Order id 7770 created. | [01:42] |
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ckshock | anyone can help? | [01:43] |
guruvan | like this: ;;buy 5 BTC @ 4 GBP paypal personal transfer | [01:46] |
ckshock | hahaha just read that We recommend you close your PayPal account and use Bitcoin instead. | [01:47] |
ckshock | http://buybitcoin.com/index.php/faq/ | [01:47] |
ckshock | i dont really want to enter the book | [01:47] |
guruvan | lol | [01:47] |
ckshock | but you are right about the command | [01:48] |
guruvan | there are plenty of people who will sell btc for PP to trusted buyers. I do occasionally myself. It never hurts to try, untill you try tooooo much :D | [01:48] |
ckshock | yeah i know I did it 2 times last week | [01:48] |
ckshock | here | [01:48] |
ckshock | can u help? | [01:50] |
mod6 | I think you need to help yourself and read the guide and get registered and then put an order in the book. | [01:51] |
ckshock | I am registered | [01:51] |
ckshock | ;;ident ckshock | [01:52] |
gribble | Nick 'ckshock', with hostmask 'ckshock!6dafabc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.175.171.197', is identified as user ckshock, with GPG key id 5011C3C088454757, and key fingerprint FBC02D7AF4DEB46BDE552F955011C3C088454757. | [01:52] |
mod6 | then put an order in the book | [01:52] |
guruvan | [15:42:43] |
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guruvan | [15:42:43] <@gribble> Order id 7770 created. | [01:52] |
mod6 | oh, well there you go :) | [01:52] |
ckshock | oh nice one dude thnks | [01:52] |
mod6 | Now you just have to wait until someone wants to fill your order. xD | [01:52] |
ckshock | that solved my problem | [01:52] |
ckshock | xaaxxaxa | [01:53] |
mod6 | my bad. | [01:53] |
ckshock | ya ok | [01:53] |
ckshock | I need it now not after days | [01:53] |
ckshock | one question | [01:53] |
guruvan | ckshock: definitely check int #bitcoin-otc but it's pretty chatty over there tright now...not a lot of trading | [01:53] |
ckshock | here is about 1000s of bitcoins | [01:53] |
ckshock | ? | [01:53] |
ckshock | I mean its not for low amounts? | [01:54] |
guruvan | most people sell small amounts here | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | some people trade k's too. | [01:54] |
guruvan | many people who sell very large amounts, sell them here to keep the numbers off the markets | [01:55] |
guruvan | and access liquidity that's just not on the exchanges | [01:55] |
ckshock | nice | [01:55] |
ckshock | you mean more liquidity here than exchange ? | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | depending on who you know. | [01:57] |
guruvan | and how much coin you're trying to trade | [01:57] |
guruvan | some people trade here because they just don't want to have accounts w/ exchanges | [01:58] |
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ckshock | I see | [02:00] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu | [11:15] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu is: Eurozone #bitcoin-otc || http://bitcoin-otc.com || Include hash tag #eu in order notes to group -eu orders. || View all tagged -eu orders here: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu || Exchange rates: !bc,convert CURRENCYCODE || GET BTC WITH ukash/paysafecard ... /msg neliskybot help || options-> http://polimedia.us/btc || bitcoin hosting -> http://bitvps.com/ | [11:15] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Apr 20 21:40:27 2012 | [11:15] |
mircea_popescu | hey kakobrekla you around ? | [11:15] |
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mcorlett | mircea_popescu: He gets up in like two hours. | [11:37] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [11:38] |
mircea_popescu | and says "good morning!" | [11:38] |
mcorlett | Yep! | [11:38] |
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mircea_popescu | whoa 40 minutes since a block | [12:15] |
sturles | 40? Darn. My miner must have crashed. :-) | [12:16] |
mircea_popescu | lol sturles | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | all you people need to lrn2math! it's unconscionable what's going on here, doing terahashes just to find one simple hash. | [12:17] |
mcorlett | lrn2hash* | [12:18] |
mircea_popescu | :D | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | tghere it is. sturles must have plugged the cable back in. | [12:19] |
sturles | Yep, thanks for telling. :-) | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | hehehe | [12:27] |
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kakobrekla | mornin | [12:53] |
mircea_popescu | haha heya | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.chocedge.com/ << chocolarte printer :D | [12:55] |
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mcorlett | mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: Like clockwork! | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [14:15] |
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mircea_popescu | "coinabul is blowing up" haha | [14:48] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: 1% off!(!!) | [15:08] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [15:09] |
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sitt | eestlaseid? | [15:32] |
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mcorlett | Would anyone be willing to test a service I've been working on from a user experience standpoint? | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | yea. | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | let's see this mystery service :D | [15:38] |
rg | hm | [15:43] |
rg | looks like our old dc shutoff boxes they werent supposed to | [15:43] |
rg | so dumb | [15:43] |
rg | so so so dumb | [15:43] |
mircea_popescu | adventures in adminland | [15:44] |
rg | 'oh we thought you canceled them' | [15:45] |
rg | 'no.. here is the list of servers i gave you to terminate. you will notice none of the downed servers are listed' | [15:45] |
rg | then i forward them an email i already sent them | [15:45] |
rg | if theyve removed data on either of them | [15:45] |
rg | we be goin to court | [15:45] |
mcorlett | This week on "rg complains about DC's": | [15:46] |
rg | mcorlett: well if they did what they were supposed to | [15:47] |
rg | there would be no complaining | [15:47] |
mcorlett | Where's the fun in that?! | [15:47] |
rg | its always the same DC i complain about | [15:47] |
rg | we have ... | [15:47] |
markedathome | mcorlett: i'll help test if it is needed within the next 4 hours | [15:47] |
rg | 2 boxes left there | [15:47] |
rg | for customers who didnt wanna migrate | [15:47] |
rg | and theyre the 2 boxes that are down | [15:47] |
mircea_popescu | actually mcorlett's thing is pretty cool. | [15:48] |
mcorlett | I got Mircea's seal of approval! | [15:48] |
rg | yeah mircea? just the right size for you | [15:49] |
mcorlett | rg: Touché. | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | lmao asshat! | [15:49] |
rg | ok im gonna go make coffee, you two have fun queering out | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | bring sammiches ho! | [15:50] |
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rg | so sandwiches for people who are going to hell | [15:55] |
rg | no* | [15:55] |
rg | mircea your interest sucks | [15:56] |
rg | .17 btc/day for 350 btc? | [15:56] |
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mircea_popescu | how much does your bank pay you for ~1500 usd ? | [16:00] |
rg | $15/day | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | lol right. | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | 500k treasuries don't make 15$ a day. | [16:01] |
rg | my point is that i could get 3.5btc/day | [16:01] |
rg | maybe even more | [16:01] |
mcorlett | Just go with pirate™! | [16:01] |
mircea_popescu | maybe so. | [16:01] |
rg | no | [16:02] |
rg | no pirate | [16:02] |
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rg | im buying into your fear propaghanda that somethings up | [16:02] |
mircea_popescu | that's the ideea with banking rg, capital in a bank makes less than capital emplouyed productively. | [16:02] |
mircea_popescu | just make sure you don't do anything too risky. | [16:02] |
rg | so i get the interest every day | [16:02] |
rg | even on the jew holidays | [16:02] |
rg | ? | [16:02] |
mircea_popescu | yea, it's paid each day | [16:03] |
rg | so thats 62 btc/yr vs 1277/yr | [16:03] |
rg | :> | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | well no, | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | it's 62000 btc/millenuia vs 1277000/millenia | [16:03] |
brznbtni | I think i forgot my password for my SS GLBSE stocks | [16:04] |
rg | still not helping your case | [16:04] |
rg | brznbtni: youre going to jail | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | the point being that if the 3.5 a day makes it six months you'll be in great shape. | [16:04] |
brznbtni | rg: yes. im the stupid motherfucker who gave all my info to FinCEN | [16:05] |
brznbtni | or was that bitinstant | [16:06] |
brznbtni | :D | [16:06] |
mircea_popescu | why are you so incensed about this anyway | [16:25] |
mcorlett | I was going to ask... | [16:25] |
brznbtni | hehe | [16:28] |
brznbtni | I dont see why they want to ask for permission | [16:28] |
brznbtni | for anything | [16:28] |
brznbtni | from fincen and/or the gov | [16:28] |
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mircea_popescu | Since a lot of people are absolutely convinced I can't raise the 1 million BTC (which says more about their lack of faith in the Bitcoin community than anything), then there is no way I can keep operating costs low enough early on. | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | this guy is too funny | [16:30] |
mircea_popescu | brznbtni : ok. but they want nevertheless. so if they want to, what's it to you ? | [16:31] |
brznbtni | mircea_popescu: they are disrupting the black/grey market | [16:33] |
brznbtni | that is my problem | [16:33] |
mircea_popescu | if it can be disrupted it sucks and should go away. | [16:33] |
mircea_popescu | the only sort of black/grey market i care about is that which is undisruptable. | [16:33] |
brznbtni | yeah.. but i dont like the noise | [16:34] |
brznbtni | :) | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | lol k. | [16:34] |
brznbtni | no im just a hater | [16:34] |
brznbtni | sorry | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | this is like hating gays because you don't like it up the ass. | [16:34] |
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brznbtni | mircea_popescu: no. it's like coming out of the closet and saying 'I am a heterosexual' | [16:38] |
mircea_popescu | lol k | [16:39] |
brznbtni | "can I please have your permission to be heterosexual?" | [16:39] |
brznbtni | or input any other sexual orientation | [16:40] |
brznbtni | plz Mr. State Man.. | [16:40] |
brznbtni | can I take it up the ass? | [16:40] |
brznbtni | "plz can i marry" | [16:40] |
brznbtni | do you get me? | [16:40] |
mircea_popescu | dude, go to a bdsm convention sometime. there's tons of people doing exactly that. | [16:44] |
brznbtni | mircea_popescu: exactly. and they dont ask the FinCEN's permission. | [16:46] |
brznbtni | or anyone else' | [16:46] |
brznbtni | :D | [16:46] |
brznbtni | "permission" btw | [16:46] |
brznbtni | they grant anyone | [16:46] |
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BTC_Bear | mircea_popescu: Is that knowledge from experience? | [18:51] |
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kakobrekla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GIUktEetPWM#! | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | wich you mean BTC_Bear ? | [19:31] |
BTC_Bear | oh the bdsm convention :) | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | a. yes, actually. | [19:32] |
BTC_Bear | lol, fair enough. I just have my wife. She punishes me enough. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | well... as long as you're having fun :D | [19:33] |
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mircea_popescu | onoes rg! your share price! COLLAPSE!!1 http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS | [19:42] |
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kakobrekla | lol | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | YOU KILLD BITVPS! | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | and kenny. | [19:45] |
guruvan | bastards | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | haha yea! | [19:46] |
guruvan | :D | [19:46] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | no sandbox! WE BAREBACK! | [19:50] |
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jurov | lm(bareback)ao | [19:52] |
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mcorlett | Production sandbox is how we roll, baby! | [19:53] |
mircea_popescu | fast forward 50 years, old codgers in a bar | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | "o, i remember the days of the btc boom, i had a company, was doing great | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | lost it all in teh great panic of jurov tests" | [19:54] |
guruvan | people jumping off tower (cases) | [19:55] |
jurov | oh, remember, in fact jurov started the rally previously | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | off with his head! | [19:55] |
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vragnaroda | 16:50 < mircea_pope> | no sandbox! WE BAREBACK! <-- Whoa | [19:59] |
BTC_Bear | Their Bareback on Brokeback Mountain. Super-Whoa | [20:00] |
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mircea_popescu | hence the expresion sandy vagina bitch. | [20:02] |
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mircea_popescu | http://evoorhees.blogspot.com/2012/04/bitcoin-libertarian-introduction.html << doesn't it suck to show a wallet with 0 btc on an article like that ? | [20:06] |
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mircea_popescu | There are many (including Paul Krugman) who believe Bitcoin isn't worth anything and is no more than a speculative bubble fad. | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | whp the fuck is paul krugman | [20:08] |
guruvan | lol. the article is pretty good, though | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | possibly the least qualified muppet i ever read. | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | he's the economics equivalent of obama. | [20:08] |
kakobrekla | well, he is off, at least 5usd | [20:08] |
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mircea_popescu | there's a difference between being worth epsilon and not being worth anything. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | he'd be off five dollars if he held the former view. he holds the later, and thus is completely wrong. | [20:10] |
mcorlett | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/s8uhs/best_bitcoin_article_ive_read_yet/c4c55yy | [20:10] |
kakobrekla | yeah yeah | [20:10] |
kakobrekla | i was trolling | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | Well, how does one obtain any currency? There are two basic ways, either by selling goods and services for it, or by buying it at an exchange. | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | apparently he didn't hear of making it. | [20:12] |
* | guruvan grabs a printing press and linen paper and makes some money | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | hash paper :D | [20:16] |
guruvan | :D | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | (and even more deeply rooted companies like SWIFT) | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | swift isn't a company ffs. | [20:17] |
guruvan | it is | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | its a friggin co-op | [20:17] |
mcorlett | The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | srsly, it's a cooperative (association). | [20:18] |
guruvan | yes a coop c | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | mmm | [20:18] |
mcorlett | Let's settle on coompany. | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | coompany lol | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | you're saying its a motorcicling car. | [20:19] |
JWU_42 | rg: ping! | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | no, it's a motorcicle. | [20:19] |
guruvan | sez cooperative on their web even :D | [20:19] |
BTC_Bear | JWU_42: If it's about the post from Goat, grubles is aware. | [20:20] |
JWU_42 | 10-4 | [20:20] |
JWU_42 | thks BTC_Bear | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | did i miss out on some drama ? | [20:21] |
guruvan | sounds like i missed it too | [20:22] |
kakobrekla | urlpls | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | we must have draama! | [20:23] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin + the internets + the power of drama = VICTORY OF CAPITALISM | [20:23] |
JWU_42 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54467.msg868322#msg868322 | [20:24] |
JWU_42 | the usual crap | [20:24] |
kakobrekla | heh | [20:25] |
kakobrekla | maybe that triggered the large drop of 10shares on bitvps today | [20:26] |
kakobrekla | ;> | [20:26] |
guruvan | 2x per week backups? | [20:26] |
kakobrekla | yeah and that lol | [20:26] |
kakobrekla | my non money related stuff is backed up every 24h | [20:27] |
JWU_42 | that wasn't very confidence inspiring | [20:27] |
guruvan | might explain som of the late night buying on Tygrr stuff | [20:27] |
kakobrekla | and its a shitton of it | [20:27] |
guruvan | no | [20:27] |
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JWU_42 | http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/04/25/1549252/bitcoin-mining-startup-gets-500k-in-venture-capital | [20:38] |
JWU_42 | in case you missed it | [20:38] |
guruvan | note on bitcoinpeople.googlegroups.com "ViBanko.com will be shutting down very soon." (May 1st) git yer monies! | [20:44] |
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mircea_popescu | hmm | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | half a mil is pretty decent | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | not enough for a good asic run, but still decent | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | Forbes explains the details of their business plan but in short it has to do with tapping the GPU mining potential of gamers | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | the model is braindead, but otherwise, cool. | [21:07] |
vragnaroda | 17:08 < mircea_pope> | whp the fuck is paul krugman <-- He's an “economics” professor at Princeton University and a writer for the New York Times. He's a fucking clown. (He thinks the economic downturn is because governments weren't spending enough money or some such bullshit.) | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | i was being sarcastic. he's an economy prof for the same reason obama is a nobel prize laureate : | [21:08] |
BTC_Bear | an a constitutional lawyer, president of the Harvard Law Review with no actual reviews. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | in short, a monkey. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | exists for the entertainment value of those entertained by him. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | Spend some time with Bitcoin. Learn it, challenge it, and use it. You can assume no government wants you adopting this system in any capacity, and for that reason alone it's worth consideration by honest, moral, and industrious people. | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | now this is an excellent point. | [21:10] |
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vragnaroda | Paul Krugman's the guy you want to say “Are you trolling me or really that fucking stupid?” whenever he opens his mouth IRL. ;) | [21:12] |
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mircea_popescu | Erik is also a partner in a couple top-secret super-subversive Bitcoin-based projects and coordinates the Free State Bitcoin Consortium group among liberty activists in New Hampshire. | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | why are people so adamantly insistent on being 9 ? | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | vragnaroda : srsly. couldn't have said it better. | [21:14] |
vragnaroda | Ugh, whenever I see references to the Free State Project, it makes me want to hurt people. | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | i have no ideea what it is | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | what is it ? | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | nh | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | s supersubersive plan to seccede ? | [21:18] |
vragnaroda | No, it's a plan to get a whole bunch of people to agree that once enough people agree, they'll all move there and subvert the local political institutions and make it more libertarian. | [21:18] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Libertarian circlejerk | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol, it's a front for a dating club ? | [21:19] |
vragnaroda | They decided on Vermont because of (1) no seat belt law and (2) unrestricted concealed carry (which other states have now, too). | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | why are these criteria relevant ?! | [21:19] |
vragnaroda | Actually, no, they went with NH, not VT. | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | i'd imagine the one thing of importance is total voter turnout | [21:20] |
vragnaroda | Never mind, I don't know why they chose it. | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | nh is pretty small | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | i once drove accidentally straight into canada looking for nh | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | the canadians were like... lol. | [21:20] |
vragnaroda | I think that was supposedly the main criterion but that'd be a reason for Wyoming more than NH. | [21:21] |
vragnaroda | I've never actually visited Canada. | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | they speak a lot of french | [21:22] |
vragnaroda | Yeah, but they're Canadian so they have nothing interesting to say. | [21:23] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [21:23] |
mircea_popescu | some of them have interesting things to show. | [21:23] |
vragnaroda | They end up working as writers and shit for American TV networks. :D | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | lol. | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, obviously the libertarians won't go to wyomyng. | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | that's a nobrainer. | [21:24] |
vragnaroda | Trailer Park Boys was pretty funny, though. | [21:24] |
mod6 | yes. | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | libertarian in my experience is a socially acceptable (in the very repressive us social environ) of saying you're a fifty something looking for late teen tail. | [21:25] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: This is the a clip from the best TV show that was actually produced in Canada. | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | Among prominent individuals from New Hampshire are founding father Nicholas Gilman, Senator Daniel Webster, Revolutionary War hero John Stark, editor Horace Greeley, founder of the Christian Science religion Mary Baker Eddy, poet Robert Frost, astronaut Alan Shepard, and author Dan Brown. New Hampshire has produced one president: Franklin Pierce. | [21:26] |
vragnaroda | http://youtu.be/8GGL0qGk5lA | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | such fail for srsly. Pierce ? | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | This video is currently unavailable. | [21:27] |
vragnaroda | Webster, Frost, and Shepherd are the only ones worth mentioning. | [21:27] |
vragnaroda | Fuck. | [21:27] |
vragnaroda | Webster mostly because he was born on my negative birthday. | [21:27] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: What about this one? http://youtu.be/dO1RLnJBQzc | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | This video is currently unavailable. | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | youtube of sucl | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | suck* | [21:41] |
vragnaroda | Jesus. | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | im on html5, so, modern vids pls ?:D | [21:41] |
vragnaroda | Well, it's hysterical. | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | With some of the largest ski mountains on the East Coast, New Hampshire's major recreational attractions include skiing, snowmobiling and other winter sports, hiking and mountaineering, observing the fall foliage, | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | observing the fall foliage olympics ? | [21:42] |
vragnaroda | The advantages of New Hampshire is that there are no people. | [21:42] |
vragnaroda | But, there are better places to go for that. | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | pakistan | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | they're all in london nao. | [21:43] |
vragnaroda | Pakistan would suck. | [21:43] |
vragnaroda | I was thinking more like North Dakota. | [21:43] |
vragnaroda | I've heard great things about Alaska, too. | [21:44] |
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mircea_popescu | a good friend was born there. has a lot of fond memories. | [21:45] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: lol @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg868086#msg868086 | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | lucky she's a she, otherwise she'd prolly get shot. | [21:57] |
mcorlett | Look at her flaunting her body in that profile picture. | [21:58] |
vragnaroda | She says that a lot, though. | [21:58] |
vragnaroda | lol, speaking of which, from another channel: | [21:58] |
vragnaroda | 16:59 <+vragnaroda> 16:50 < mircea_pope> | no sandbox! WE BAREBACK! <-- Whoa | [21:58] |
vragnaroda | 17:09 <+ reeses> | explains why he had to pick the defensive girl with low self esteem who tries to compensate by showing off her big boobs but leaving the lights low to hide the fact that they're big because she's fat | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | ugh | [21:59] |
vragnaroda | It's reeses; that's the kind of thing he says. ;) | [21:59] |
mcorlett | T... Touché? | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | im just wondering lol. | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | i had to what ? why ? wtf. | [22:00] |
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mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Don't fight it. | [22:01] |
vragnaroda | .wik banana ketchup | [22:13] |
markac | "Banana ketchup or banana sauce is a popular Philippine condiment made from mashed banana, sugar, vinegar, and spices." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_ketchup | [22:13] |
vragnaroda | What the fuck? | [22:13] |
mcorlett | Problem? | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | sounds par for the course. | [22:14] |
vragnaroda | I don't know who would come up with something like that but it *sounds* delicious. | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | i don't like sweetened vinegar. | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | gives me heartburn to boot. | [22:15] |
vragnaroda | Well, apparently, it was Maria Y. Orosa that came up with it due to a tomato shortage. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | i never heard of her. | [22:18] |
vragnaroda | Nor had I. She's not important. (She was Filipino ffs.) | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | ahh, this has been grandly delicious. a buncha haters from my blog made (or stole, i don't recall) a #trilema chan. i let them be for ~6 months and claimed it now. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | large swaths of butthurt ensue. | [22:19] |
vragnaroda | Ah, amusing. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | you always gotta let muppets get emotionally invested first. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | sticking it to the man and all that. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise it doesn't sting so much. | [22:19] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Oh wow, I see Romanian with diacritics and shit in there now. :o | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | yeh. | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | the genuine article. | [22:20] |
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mircea_popescu | and actually that oama character is a woman | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | a little on the heavy side, but a woman, | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | which i guess makes reese's argument even funnier | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | seeing how i could have easily picked larger womenz if it was a criterion. | [22:21] |
vragnaroda | Romanian is weird. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | not as weird as hungarian, i'll tell you that. | [22:22] |
vragnaroda | Well, Hungarian's not IE. It's supposed to be different. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | there's good different and there's bad different | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | and then there's hungarian, below that. | [22:23] |
mcorlett | <_Cristian> mcorlett: have you seen mircea_popescu lately? | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | lol you two are buddies ? | [22:23] |
mcorlett | I don't know the guy. | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha | [22:23] |
mcorlett | Here he comes. | [22:23] |
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_Cristian | ;;ident mircea_popescu | [22:24] |
gribble | Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@89.137.247.39', is not identified. | [22:24] |
vragnaroda | _Cristian: 안녕하세요. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | didja want somethin' ? | [22:24] |
_Cristian | vragnaroda: that's chinese to me | [22:25] |
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vragnaroda | _Cristian: Chinese is not written with curves. | [22:26] |
vragnaroda | If there's a circle (and it isn't a 0), it isn't Chinese. | [22:26] |
_Cristian | vragnaroda: English please | [22:26] |
Mqrius | It's Korean, anyway. | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | hey, that's actually a pretty good criterion. | [22:26] |
vragnaroda | _Cristian: ¿Y si prefiero el español? | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder what the reason is | [22:27] |
Mqrius | (As far as my Asian language knowledge goes.) | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | Mqrius it's too verbose to be chinese anyway, they usually manage hi in less than 20 strokes. | [22:27] |
Mqrius | Spaans is ten minste Europees, dat is al wat beter. | [22:27] |
vragnaroda | _Cristian: On est sur #bitcoin-otc-eu et ici, on peut parler beaucoup de langues. :p | [22:28] |
mcorlett | Dutch is surprisingly understandable! | [22:28] |
vragnaroda | .tr :nl :ko Spaans is ten minste Europees, dat is al wat beter. | [22:29] |
markac | vragnaroda: "스페인어 는 더 나아 적어도 유럽 이다." (nl to ko, translate.google.com) | [22:29] |
Mqrius | Chinese hi in pōnyīn: Nǐ hǎo | [22:29] |
Mqrius | pīnyīn* | [22:29] |
vragnaroda | Better spelling: 你好。 :p | [22:29] |
Mqrius | :P | [22:29] |
Mqrius | That's not pinyin though so it's not a better spelling in pinyin :P | [22:30] |
vragnaroda | Anything is a better spelling than pinyin. :p | [22:30] |
vragnaroda | Pinyin is communist. | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | whoa, pony in ?! | [22:30] |
Mqrius | I can read pinyin better than, uh, whatchamacallits, kanji, but the chinese version. | [22:30] |
* | vragnaroda smacks Mqrius | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | why are you so violent dood ? have a teat. | [22:31] |
vragnaroda | Mqrius: Better than 漢字? | [22:31] |
_Cristian | vragnaroda: atunci pot să zic și eu ceva de dulce în română, nu? | [22:31] |
vragnaroda | (Hanzi :p) | [22:31] |
vragnaroda | .tr atunci pot să zic și eu ceva de dulce în română, nu? | [22:31] |
markac | vragnaroda: "then and I can say something sweet in Romanian , right?" (ro to en, translate.google.com) | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | Kürtőskalács. | [22:32] |
Mqrius | Yes, Hànzì are difficult, and I have to copy paste all the way to google translate to even check if I know the words :P | [22:32] |
vragnaroda | _Cristian: 네. | [22:32] |
Mqrius | Wǒ bù shuō zhōngwén. | [22:32] |
* | _Cristian wonders if google translate can translate alupigus | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | شما می توانید تمام منحرف | [22:33] |
vragnaroda | Mqrius: 我是美国人。 is the longest sentence I can say in Mandarin. :p | [22:33] |
vragnaroda | .tr شما می توانید تمام منحرف | [22:33] |
markac | vragnaroda: "You can divert all" (fa to en, translate.google.com) | [22:33] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: That script is totally not cool. | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | my script pwns your script. | [22:33] |
_Cristian | mircea_popescu: mânca-mi-ai scriptu' | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | and btw re the libertarian free country etc : i just realised they basically are aiming to be jews. | [22:34] |
_Cristian | mircea_popescu: că habar n-ai cum să-ți configurezi diacriticele | [22:34] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Jews wouldn't bother me much if they stopped mutilating little boys' genitals. | [22:34] |
_Cristian | vragnaroda: did mircea_popescu admit that he's a Jew? | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | i like jews as the universal reservoir of unruly redhaired chicks they are. | [22:35] |
vragnaroda | _Cristian: Not to the best of my knowledge. | [22:35] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Are you a kike? | [22:36] |
Mqrius | Also, fick Chinesisch, ich versuche Deutsch zu lernen. | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | sie gonnen mir nicht slesien ? | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | vragnaroda : not to the best of my knowledge | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | why, are you ? | [22:36] |
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vragnaroda | No, but _Cristian seemed to think you might be. | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | i imagine _Cristian by now has an altar to me hidden somewhere. | [22:37] |
Mqrius | mircea_popescu: Ist das phonetisch Deutsch? :P Was meinst du mit "slesien"? :P | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | Schlesien :D | [22:38] |
_Cristian | vragnaroda: actually mircea_popescu said that the Jews would wish that he would be a Jew | [22:38] |
mircea_popescu | i just enjoy trolling ppl hooked to .tr | [22:38] |
Mqrius | Hehe :P | [22:38] |
vragnaroda | Until Google detects I'm scraping their website instead of paying to use their API. :p | [22:38] |
Mqrius | Da'kan mt Neerlans ok wel hoor. | [22:39] |
_Cristian | vragnaroda: what API? | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | vragnaroda i didn't even know they charged ?! | [22:39] |
vragnaroda | _Cristian: google translate has an API | [22:40] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Yeah, it's been a few months now. :( | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | ridiculous. | [22:40] |
vragnaroda | It broke gribble, too. :-( | [22:41] |
vragnaroda | ;;translate ko en 병신 지랄을. | [22:41] |
gribble | Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html. | [22:41] |
vragnaroda | .tr 병신 지랄을. | [22:42] |
markac | vragnaroda: "Fuck you asshole ." (ko to en, translate.google.com) | [22:42] |
_Cristian | mircea_popescu: speaking of services, are you using a password for GRUB on your server? | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | did you actually type that shit ?! | [22:43] |
mcorlett | Huh, why is the Translate API not free? | [22:43] |
mcorlett | Can't they just sell my private information like they do with their other services? | [22:43] |
_Cristian | mircea_popescu: so you admit that you don't have a GRUB password on your server | [22:43] |
vragnaroda | mcorlett: Not really when it's used via the API. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | how much do they charge anyway ? | [22:44] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Did I actually type “병신 지랄을”? Not above but I did this time. I had to find it in my log from another channel. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | this is why imo all asian alphabets are d oomed. who the fuck has the patience anymore. | [22:45] |
vragnaroda | Someone asked a Korean to help him register with some Korean game server and that was the response. ;) | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | 27 letters are sufficient for anyone. | [22:45] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: 한글 only has 24. :p | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | course maybe a new napoleon comes along with a lettric system. | [22:45] |
vragnaroda | lol | [22:46] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Really, it depends on what you count as different letters, but the normal count of 24 is ㄱ, ㄴ, ㄷ, ㄹ, ㅁ, ㅂ, ㅅ, ㅇ, ㅈ, ㅊ, ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅍ, ㅎ, ㅏ, ㅓ, ㅗ, ㅜ, ㅡ, ㅣ, ㅑ, ㅕ, ㅛ, and ㅠ. | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | srsly ? | [22:54] |
vragnaroda | Sometimes, ㅃ,ㅉ,ㄸ,ㄲ,ㅆ are counted as separate letters, though. | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | i didn't know specifically but imagined they're all in the 50+ counts. | [22:54] |
vragnaroda | Yes, seriously. The Korean writing system is extremely simple. | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | k, good to know. | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | (no wonder you're learning it :o) | [22:55] |
vragnaroda | It's just that letters are arranged in syllable blocks so ㅎ ㅏ ㄴ ㄱ ㅡ ㄹ becomes 한글. | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | y no liniar! | [22:57] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: They used to mix Chinese characters in, too, but other than lawyers and religious scholars, it's not used anymore. | [22:57] |
vragnaroda | Well, because Korean syllable structure is very simple. There aren't very many consonant clusters. | [22:57] |
Mqrius | On a tangentially related note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voI_Zt_9GLw&hd=1 | [22:57] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: And, ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ are all just the aspirated forms of ㄱ, ㄷ, ㅈ, and ㅂ. | [22:59] |
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mircea_popescu | asshole alsa... | [23:01] |
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vragnaroda | But with the Korean IME, I can still get to the Chinese characters by typing the Hangeul and hitting alt+enter: 한자+alt+enter={漢子,漢字,韓字,한자}. (漢字 (한자) is the term for Chinese characters.) | [23:03] |
rawrmage | χ² | [23:03] |
vragnaroda | (I don't know many, but I can recognize a few.) | [23:03] |
rawrmage | vragnaroda: おはよう | [23:04] |
vragnaroda | rawrmage: ᚻᛖᛚᛚᚩ᛫ | [23:06] |
vragnaroda | .tr おはよう | [23:06] |
markac | vragnaroda: "Good morning" (ja to en, translate.google.com) | [23:06] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: I'm still going to be working on a Sinicized English orthography, though. (Writing English with 漢字. :p) | [23:08] |
rawrmage | .tr ᚻᛖᛚᛚᚩ | [23:08] |
markac | rawrmage: "We are not yet able to translate from Hawaiian into English." (haw to en, translate.google.com) | [23:08] |
rawrmage | lol | [23:08] |
vragnaroda | What the fuck? | [23:08] |
vragnaroda | rawrmage: hello | [23:08] |
rawrmage | coi | [23:08] |
rawrmage | .tr coi .i do mo | [23:08] |
markac | rawrmage: "with . i do mo" (it to en, translate.google.com) | [23:08] |
vragnaroda | lol | [23:08] |
rawrmage | .tr la gugl. jai fenki | [23:08] |
markac | rawrmage: "the gugl . Jai fenki" (eo to en, translate.google.com) | [23:08] |
rawrmage | ok | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | coi actually is the singular of testicle in ro. | [23:09] |
vragnaroda | rawrmage: With yingzi, I may use the fuþorc as Japanese uses kana. | [23:09] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: It's a Lojban greeting. | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | its a romanian greeting too | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | in some circumstances | [23:10] |
vragnaroda | lol | [23:10] |
rawrmage | .tr :ro :en coi | [23:12] |
markac | rawrmage: "helm" (ro to en, translate.google.com) | [23:12] |
vragnaroda | rawrmage: I really like mixed writing systems and Japanese is cool in that regard. When I'm emperor and English speakers start writing English in 漢字 and ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ, I may need another system, too, just for shits and giggles. | [23:12] |
rawrmage | lol | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | that's wrong. | [23:13] |
vragnaroda | I can't really use the nick vragnaroda then, though. | [23:13] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Japanese is written with logo-/ideographs and two different syllabries. It's cool. :p | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | you know complexity in the system of notation is not the point | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | complexity in what's actually noted is the point. | [23:15] |
vragnaroda | (Note the spelling syllabry to emphasize to people *NOT* to fucking pronounce it sylla-berry, which is common and I fucking hate.) | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | sillyberry. | [23:15] |
vragnaroda | Grrr. | [23:16] |
rawrmage | .u ħ | [23:16] |
markac | U+0127 LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH STROKE (ħ) | [23:16] |
rawrmage | why isn't that in my xmodmap? | [23:16] |
Mqrius | h-bar, fuck yeah. | [23:16] |
rawrmage | ħω | [23:16] |
rawrmage | good | [23:16] |
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rawrmage | oh I did get whitelisted yay | [23:24] |
rawrmage | NOW I CAN ENGAGE IN THE HIGH SOCIETY THAT IS BITCOINTALK AT LARGE | [23:25] |
rawrmage | MUAHAHAHAHA | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | ponyian be with you | [23:25] |
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smickles | ಠ_ಠ @ some people on bitcointalk | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | lol what nao | [23:33] |
mircea_popescu | btw smickles : i pointed you out on my blog as possibly the best investment in the history of bitcoin. | [23:34] |
smickles | nothin new, just still put off by psy | [23:34] |
mircea_popescu | eh why do you care. | [23:34] |
smickles | put off re checking the forum | [23:34] |
mircea_popescu | a. well, you know, it's a forum. | [23:35] |
smickles | ooOoh, thanks for the honour | [23:35] |
MarcZ | anyone from netherlands/belgium here? i've got coupons for bol.com if someone wants to sell btc for them | [23:35] |
* | vragnaroda smacks smickles for that superfluous ‹u›. | [23:37] |
smickles | lol, @ google translate, "'this guy that I called Michael Carver and his smickles" | [23:38] |
smickles | vragnaroda: fogive me, i lack some one handed typing while feeding baby skills | [23:39] |
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mircea_popescu | smickles it's "his name is m. c. but he calls himself smickles" | [23:42] |
vragnaroda | Oh, you want to see Google Translate at its finest? | [23:43] |
vragnaroda | .wik :ko 질 | [23:43] |
markac | "질(膣)은 자궁 경부의 질부에 이어지는 관상의 기관이며, 길이는 약 7~8㎝이다." - http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/질 | [23:43] |
vragnaroda | .tr "질(膣)은 자궁 경부의 질부에 이어지는 관상의 기관이며, 길이는 약 7~8㎝이다." | [23:43] |
markac | vragnaroda: ""Jill (膣) of the cervix , leading to vaginal tubular organ , and the length is about 7 ~ 8 ㎝ ."" (ko to en, translate.google.com) | [23:43] |
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mcorlett | MarcZ: Check with Mqrius. | [23:49] |
Mqrius | Thanks for the referral, but I don't need bol.com tickets :) | [23:50] |
Mqrius | I can sell BTC for simple bank transfer though. | [23:50] |
mcorlett | Nice, a service using text-to-image scripts to display emails! | [23:55] |
mcorlett | Here's the catch: the email is passed as a variable in the URL. | [23:56] |
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