Forum logs for 25 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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stevenroose hi [00:22]
stevenroose I'm looking for a bitcoin exchange that features free SEPA-transfers [00:22]
stevenroose Tradehill had those [00:22]
stevenroose but sadly they had to go [00:22]
stevenroose mtgox doesnt [00:22]
stevenroose anyone an idea? [00:23]
mircea_popescu hm, maybe intersango ? [00:23]
stevenroose i checked thatone [00:24]
stevenroose dont remember how it was there [00:24]
stevenroose guess they are in poland as well [00:24]
stevenroose charge 10 PLN a deposit [00:24]
mircea_popescu cyberexchange ? [00:25]
mircea_popescu and there was some russian thing, but i don't recall right off [00:25]
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Jamalaka hm, bitcoin.de ? [00:35]
Jamalaka they take some tx-fee.. [00:35]
Jamalaka but you can do sepa [00:36]
Jamalaka it's an otc-exchange [00:36]
Jamalaka but without gpg and stuff ;) [00:36]
Mqrius stevenroose: bitstamp has free sepa deposit, 0.90 cent sepa withdrawal. [00:39]
Mqrius bitcoin.de doesn't escrow fiat, indeed. [00:39]
stevenroose any experience with bitcoin.de? [00:41]
stevenroose the website looks more professional than intersango :) [00:41]
Mqrius Yep. Their system works nice [00:41]
Mqrius If you're familiar with bitmarket.eu, it's similar, but set up better. [00:42]
stevenroose do they charge for sepa deposits or withdrawals? [00:42]
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Mqrius They don't do deposits/withdrawals [00:42]
stevenroose ah [00:42]
Mqrius Basically you send the sepa to the seller directly [00:42]
stevenroose it's a person-to-person exchange [00:42]
stevenroose hmm [00:42]
Mqrius Yeah [00:42]
Mqrius the bitcoins are locked though [00:42]
Mqrius so there's security. [00:42]
stevenroose how so? [00:42]
stevenroose they are bitcoin=middle man [00:43]
stevenroose -* [00:43]
stevenroose but not cash-middleman? [00:43]
Mqrius Yeah [00:43]
stevenroose weir [00:43]
stevenroose d [00:43]
stevenroose seems an open door to scammers [00:43]
Mqrius How so? [00:43]
stevenroose if you dont pay, who can proof whether you did or not? [00:43]
stevenroose who's gonna get the btc in a conflict/ [00:43]
Mqrius Probably they'd judge in favor of the person who has done tens of succesfull trades [00:43]
Mqrius Or in favor of the one that actually responds to their mail. [00:44]
stevenroose yeah it's good to have a sort of reputation thing like you have here as well [00:44]
Mqrius Point is, it's not an "easy" scam. You'd have to convince admins and everything, and it would be a lot of effort. [00:44]
Mqrius Yeah, there's a reputation system [00:44]
Mqrius and if you have no trades, you can only buy small amounts. [00:45]
stevenroose but I think it's not up to the service to decided who's scamming and who isn't [00:45]
Mqrius Usually the users can resolve it themselves. [00:45]
Mqrius They have to; neither one has the bitcoins while they haven't figured it out :P [00:45]
Mqrius The service would come in only in special cases. [00:45]
stevenroose no, but a person could just make a bunch of small random trades and than start scamming because he has the highest reputation [00:45]
stevenroose anyway [00:45]
stevenroose will check out intersango :p [00:46]
stevenroose im looking for a free-sepa-transfer-service [00:46]
stevenroose :p [00:46]
stevenroose I loved tradehill though :( [00:46]
Mqrius Still, check out bitstamp [00:46]
Mqrius intersango isn't free [00:46]
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Mqrius It's relatively cheap. [00:46]
stevenroose EUR (SEPA) 5 PLN (1.23 EUR) 5 PLN (1.23 EUR) [00:48]
stevenroose EUR (international) 10 PLN (2.46 EUR) You pay: Depends on intermediary banks and your bank [00:48]
stevenroose Shared cost: 0.2%, capped: 9.5 PLN min, 180 PLN max [00:48]
stevenroose We pay: 5 EUR equal to or lower than EUR 1000, 25 EUR higher than EUR 1000 [00:48]
stevenroose 1.23 euro a transfer [00:48]
stevenroose thats not cheap [00:48]
stevenroose tradehill was 0.00 [00:48]
stevenroose it's sad [00:50]
stevenroose europe has the greatest economy, but can't even offer us just one bitcoin that offers free deposits/withdrawals [00:51]
stevenroose bitcoin market* [00:51]
mircea_popescu so you want free deposit, free withdrawal, and free trade. [00:51]
stevenroose ne trades can have a fee [00:53]
stevenroose that's normal [00:53]
stevenroose but depositing and withdrawing should be free [00:54]
stevenroose the are free at intersango and mtgox from their own point [00:54]
stevenroose but their banks are charging [00:54]
stevenroose because poland doesn't fully comply with EU laws [00:54]
stevenroose most EU countries enforce free SEPA-transfers [00:54]
stevenroose but poland does not [00:54]
stevenroose (yet hopefully) [00:54]
stevenroose so the banks are cashing 1.2 euro for every transfer made [00:55]
stevenroose which I think is just scammin [00:55]
kakobrekla depends on the bank [00:55]
stevenroose yeah, both their banks [00:55]
kakobrekla some banks charge 0 [00:55]
stevenroose can't find any exchange that doesnt [00:55]
kakobrekla for recieving its normally 0 [00:55]
stevenroose tradehill was the only one [00:56]
kakobrekla person to person [00:56]
kakobrekla as the bank costs go [00:56]
kakobrekla what exchanges charge... its another thing [00:56]
stevenroose person to person, but I'm talking about person to company :) [00:56]
stevenroose those exchanges charge nothing, they say it themselves [00:56]
stevenroose 10PLN fee from the bank [00:56]
stevenroose for SEPA [00:56]
stevenroose and 20 PLN for international euro [00:57]
stevenroose probably because poland doesnt use the euro [00:57]
stevenroose hmm gonna check when they will [00:57]
stevenroose It is currently projected that Poland will be able to join Euro zone in 2015 or later. There is no official information on the design process for the Polish national sides of the euro coins. [00:57]
stevenroose the conclusion is, I like bitcoins, but as a euro-user it's just way to expensive to buy some [00:59]
stevenroose or I need to do those person to person transactions [00:59]
stevenroose but with them it's hard to speculate on falling/rising course prices :) [00:59]
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mircea_popescu For my 12 GH/s I spent $11,670 and have made back $4,000 of it. I started on May 31, 2011. [01:05]
mircea_popescu Sam [01:05]
mircea_popescu this is really sad. less than 1/3 back in a year ? whoa. [01:06]
mircea_popescu stevenroose you can just speculate via options. [01:07]
guruvan mircea_popescu: I saw a quick blip about MPEx offering difficulty based options - is that happening yet? [01:10]
mircea_popescu it is live since yest. [01:10]
guruvan ok, and those are the one's marked "hash" etc? [01:10]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.HASH.C10TH that's the call [01:11]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.HASH.P10TH that's the put [01:11]
guruvan awesome, thanks. [01:12]
mod6 oh, i just now saw this! [01:13]
mod6 (13:57) < mircea_popescu> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77958.0 [01:13]
mod6 O_O [01:13]
mircea_popescu yeah. i dunno, does that mean intersangro ppl bought it ? [01:14]
guruvan seemed more like they bought into it rather than buying outright (maybe even a sweat equity deal?) [01:14]
mod6 yeah, maybe. [01:14]
guruvan phantomcircuit said they'd move forward conservatively w/ regards to changing things there when I asked, if that's any indication [01:15]
mircea_popescu im guessing the kid just wanted to move on with his life. [01:17]
mod6 ahh, interesting. What was special about NZ's laws? why did they move it there? [01:17]
mircea_popescu the exponential growth part was kinda done imo [01:17]
mod6 maybe so, isn't he like 17? [01:18]
guruvan he had me a little worried when I saw him on the forums cashing out heavily, and "diversifying his currency portfolio" - this is a good development [01:18]
mircea_popescu basically he built a nice forex bucket shop, made ~50k btc in 6 months, l;ost 40k of those in de vps hacks [01:27]
mircea_popescu then sold out for a sweet 1-200k usd in some instalment plan and that's that. [01:28]
mircea_popescu not a bad way to spend a year in highschool. [01:28]
mod6 :D [01:31]
guruvan not at all. I hope for his sake he got more out of the deal than that - it's likely to make some serious money as bitcoin grows. [01:32]
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ckshock buy 5 btc at 4GBP ,paypal personal transfer [01:42]
ckshock ;;buy 5 btc at 4GBP ,paypal personal transfer [01:42]
gribble Error: '4GBP' is not a valid price input. [01:42]
ckshock ;;buy 5 btc at 4 GBP ,paypal personal transfer [01:42]
gribble Order id 7770 created. [01:42]
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ckshock anyone can help? [01:43]
guruvan like this: ;;buy 5 BTC @ 4 GBP paypal personal transfer [01:46]
ckshock hahaha just read that We recommend you close your PayPal account and use Bitcoin instead. [01:47]
ckshock http://buybitcoin.com/index.php/faq/ [01:47]
ckshock i dont really want to enter the book [01:47]
guruvan lol [01:47]
ckshock but you are right about the command [01:48]
guruvan there are plenty of people who will sell btc for PP to trusted buyers. I do occasionally myself. It never hurts to try, untill you try tooooo much :D [01:48]
ckshock yeah i know I did it 2 times last week [01:48]
ckshock here [01:48]
ckshock can u help? [01:50]
mod6 I think you need to help yourself and read the guide and get registered and then put an order in the book. [01:51]
ckshock I am registered [01:51]
ckshock ;;ident ckshock [01:52]
gribble Nick 'ckshock', with hostmask 'ckshock!6dafabc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.175.171.197', is identified as user ckshock, with GPG key id 5011C3C088454757, and key fingerprint FBC02D7AF4DEB46BDE552F955011C3C088454757. [01:52]
mod6 then put an order in the book [01:52]
guruvan [15:42:43] ;;buy 5 btc at 4 GBP ,paypal personal transfer [01:52]
guruvan [15:42:43] <@gribble> Order id 7770 created. [01:52]
mod6 oh, well there you go :) [01:52]
ckshock oh nice one dude thnks [01:52]
mod6 Now you just have to wait until someone wants to fill your order. xD [01:52]
ckshock that solved my problem [01:52]
ckshock xaaxxaxa [01:53]
mod6 my bad. [01:53]
ckshock ya ok [01:53]
ckshock I need it now not after days [01:53]
ckshock one question [01:53]
guruvan ckshock: definitely check int #bitcoin-otc but it's pretty chatty over there tright now...not a lot of trading [01:53]
ckshock here is about 1000s of bitcoins [01:53]
ckshock ? [01:53]
ckshock I mean its not for low amounts? [01:54]
guruvan most people sell small amounts here [01:54]
mircea_popescu some people trade k's too. [01:54]
guruvan many people who sell very large amounts, sell them here to keep the numbers off the markets [01:55]
guruvan and access liquidity that's just not on the exchanges [01:55]
ckshock nice [01:55]
ckshock you mean more liquidity here than exchange ? [01:56]
mircea_popescu depending on who you know. [01:57]
guruvan and how much coin you're trying to trade [01:57]
guruvan some people trade here because they just don't want to have accounts w/ exchanges [01:58]
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ckshock I see [02:00]
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mircea_popescu hey kakobrekla you around ? [11:15]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: He gets up in like two hours. [11:37]
mircea_popescu lol [11:38]
mircea_popescu and says "good morning!" [11:38]
mcorlett Yep! [11:38]
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mircea_popescu whoa 40 minutes since a block [12:15]
sturles 40? Darn. My miner must have crashed. :-) [12:16]
mircea_popescu lol sturles [12:17]
mircea_popescu all you people need to lrn2math! it's unconscionable what's going on here, doing terahashes just to find one simple hash. [12:17]
mcorlett lrn2hash* [12:18]
mircea_popescu :D [12:19]
mircea_popescu tghere it is. sturles must have plugged the cable back in. [12:19]
sturles Yep, thanks for telling. :-) [12:20]
mircea_popescu hehehe [12:27]
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kakobrekla mornin [12:53]
mircea_popescu haha heya [12:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.chocedge.com/ << chocolarte printer :D [12:55]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: Like clockwork! [14:12]
mircea_popescu :p [14:15]
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mircea_popescu "coinabul is blowing up" haha [14:48]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: 1% off!(!!) [15:08]
mircea_popescu lol [15:09]
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sitt eestlaseid? [15:32]
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mcorlett Would anyone be willing to test a service I've been working on from a user experience standpoint? [15:37]
mircea_popescu yea. [15:38]
mircea_popescu let's see this mystery service :D [15:38]
rg hm [15:43]
rg looks like our old dc shutoff boxes they werent supposed to [15:43]
rg so dumb [15:43]
rg so so so dumb [15:43]
mircea_popescu adventures in adminland [15:44]
rg 'oh we thought you canceled them' [15:45]
rg 'no.. here is the list of servers i gave you to terminate. you will notice none of the downed servers are listed' [15:45]
rg then i forward them an email i already sent them [15:45]
rg if theyve removed data on either of them [15:45]
rg we be goin to court [15:45]
mcorlett This week on "rg complains about DC's": [15:46]
rg mcorlett: well if they did what they were supposed to [15:47]
rg there would be no complaining [15:47]
mcorlett Where's the fun in that?! [15:47]
rg its always the same DC i complain about [15:47]
rg we have ... [15:47]
markedathome mcorlett: i'll help test if it is needed within the next 4 hours [15:47]
rg 2 boxes left there [15:47]
rg for customers who didnt wanna migrate [15:47]
rg and theyre the 2 boxes that are down [15:47]
mircea_popescu actually mcorlett's thing is pretty cool. [15:48]
mcorlett I got Mircea's seal of approval! [15:48]
rg yeah mircea? just the right size for you [15:49]
mcorlett rg: Touché. [15:49]
mircea_popescu lmao asshat! [15:49]
rg ok im gonna go make coffee, you two have fun queering out [15:49]
mircea_popescu bring sammiches ho! [15:50]
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rg so sandwiches for people who are going to hell [15:55]
rg no* [15:55]
rg mircea your interest sucks [15:56]
rg .17 btc/day for 350 btc? [15:56]
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mircea_popescu how much does your bank pay you for ~1500 usd ? [16:00]
rg $15/day [16:00]
mircea_popescu lol right. [16:00]
mircea_popescu 500k treasuries don't make 15$ a day. [16:01]
rg my point is that i could get 3.5btc/day [16:01]
rg maybe even more [16:01]
mcorlett Just go with pirate™! [16:01]
mircea_popescu maybe so. [16:01]
rg no [16:02]
rg no pirate [16:02]
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rg im buying into your fear propaghanda that somethings up [16:02]
mircea_popescu that's the ideea with banking rg, capital in a bank makes less than capital emplouyed productively. [16:02]
mircea_popescu just make sure you don't do anything too risky. [16:02]
rg so i get the interest every day [16:02]
rg even on the jew holidays [16:02]
rg ? [16:02]
mircea_popescu yea, it's paid each day [16:03]
rg so thats 62 btc/yr vs 1277/yr [16:03]
rg :> [16:03]
mircea_popescu well no, [16:03]
mircea_popescu it's 62000 btc/millenuia vs 1277000/millenia [16:03]
brznbtni I think i forgot my password for my SS GLBSE stocks [16:04]
rg still not helping your case [16:04]
rg brznbtni: youre going to jail [16:04]
mircea_popescu the point being that if the 3.5 a day makes it six months you'll be in great shape. [16:04]
brznbtni rg: yes. im the stupid motherfucker who gave all my info to FinCEN [16:05]
brznbtni or was that bitinstant [16:06]
brznbtni :D [16:06]
mircea_popescu why are you so incensed about this anyway [16:25]
mcorlett I was going to ask... [16:25]
brznbtni hehe [16:28]
brznbtni I dont see why they want to ask for permission [16:28]
brznbtni for anything [16:28]
brznbtni from fincen and/or the gov [16:28]
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mircea_popescu Since a lot of people are absolutely convinced I can't raise the 1 million BTC (which says more about their lack of faith in the Bitcoin community than anything), then there is no way I can keep operating costs low enough early on. [16:30]
mircea_popescu this guy is too funny [16:30]
mircea_popescu brznbtni : ok. but they want nevertheless. so if they want to, what's it to you ? [16:31]
brznbtni mircea_popescu: they are disrupting the black/grey market [16:33]
brznbtni that is my problem [16:33]
mircea_popescu if it can be disrupted it sucks and should go away. [16:33]
mircea_popescu the only sort of black/grey market i care about is that which is undisruptable. [16:33]
brznbtni yeah.. but i dont like the noise [16:34]
brznbtni :) [16:34]
mircea_popescu lol k. [16:34]
brznbtni no im just a hater [16:34]
brznbtni sorry [16:34]
mircea_popescu this is like hating gays because you don't like it up the ass. [16:34]
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brznbtni mircea_popescu: no. it's like coming out of the closet and saying 'I am a heterosexual' [16:38]
mircea_popescu lol k [16:39]
brznbtni "can I please have your permission to be heterosexual?" [16:39]
brznbtni or input any other sexual orientation [16:40]
brznbtni plz Mr. State Man.. [16:40]
brznbtni can I take it up the ass? [16:40]
brznbtni "plz can i marry" [16:40]
brznbtni do you get me? [16:40]
mircea_popescu dude, go to a bdsm convention sometime. there's tons of people doing exactly that. [16:44]
brznbtni mircea_popescu: exactly. and they dont ask the FinCEN's permission. [16:46]
brznbtni or anyone else' [16:46]
brznbtni :D [16:46]
brznbtni "permission" btw [16:46]
brznbtni they grant anyone [16:46]
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BTC_Bear mircea_popescu: Is that knowledge from experience? [18:51]
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kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GIUktEetPWM#! [19:20]
mircea_popescu wich you mean BTC_Bear ? [19:31]
BTC_Bear oh the bdsm convention :) [19:31]
mircea_popescu a. yes, actually. [19:32]
BTC_Bear lol, fair enough. I just have my wife. She punishes me enough. [19:32]
mircea_popescu well... as long as you're having fun :D [19:33]
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mircea_popescu onoes rg! your share price! COLLAPSE!!1 http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS [19:42]
* jurov caused panic by testing order of 10bvps shares? [19:44]
kakobrekla lol [19:45]
mircea_popescu lol [19:45]
mircea_popescu YOU KILLD BITVPS! [19:45]
mircea_popescu and kenny. [19:45]
guruvan bastards [19:46]
mircea_popescu haha yea! [19:46]
guruvan :D [19:46]
* jurov requests mpex sandbox for testing, to avoid creating undue stress to market [19:47]
mircea_popescu lol [19:50]
mircea_popescu no sandbox! WE BAREBACK! [19:50]
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jurov lm(bareback)ao [19:52]
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mcorlett Production sandbox is how we roll, baby! [19:53]
mircea_popescu fast forward 50 years, old codgers in a bar [19:54]
mircea_popescu "o, i remember the days of the btc boom, i had a company, was doing great [19:54]
mircea_popescu lost it all in teh great panic of jurov tests" [19:54]
guruvan people jumping off tower (cases) [19:55]
jurov oh, remember, in fact jurov started the rally previously [19:55]
mircea_popescu off with his head! [19:55]
* jurov closes door of his evil overlord lair with sinister laugh [19:56]
vragnaroda 16:50 < mircea_pope> | no sandbox! WE BAREBACK! <-- Whoa [19:59]
BTC_Bear Their Bareback on Brokeback Mountain. Super-Whoa [20:00]
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mircea_popescu hence the expresion sandy vagina bitch. [20:02]
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mircea_popescu http://evoorhees.blogspot.com/2012/04/bitcoin-libertarian-introduction.html << doesn't it suck to show a wallet with 0 btc on an article like that ? [20:06]
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mircea_popescu There are many (including Paul Krugman) who believe Bitcoin isn't worth anything and is no more than a speculative bubble fad. [20:08]
mircea_popescu whp the fuck is paul krugman [20:08]
guruvan lol. the article is pretty good, though [20:08]
mircea_popescu possibly the least qualified muppet i ever read. [20:08]
mircea_popescu he's the economics equivalent of obama. [20:08]
kakobrekla well, he is off, at least 5usd [20:08]
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mircea_popescu there's a difference between being worth epsilon and not being worth anything. [20:09]
mircea_popescu he'd be off five dollars if he held the former view. he holds the later, and thus is completely wrong. [20:10]
mcorlett http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/s8uhs/best_bitcoin_article_ive_read_yet/c4c55yy [20:10]
kakobrekla yeah yeah [20:10]
kakobrekla i was trolling [20:10]
mircea_popescu Well, how does one obtain any currency? There are two basic ways, either by selling goods and services for it, or by buying it at an exchange. [20:12]
mircea_popescu apparently he didn't hear of making it. [20:12]
* guruvan grabs a printing press and linen paper and makes some money [20:15]
mircea_popescu hash paper :D [20:16]
guruvan :D [20:16]
mircea_popescu (and even more deeply rooted companies like SWIFT) [20:17]
mircea_popescu swift isn't a company ffs. [20:17]
guruvan it is [20:17]
mircea_popescu its a friggin co-op [20:17]
mcorlett The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication [20:18]
mircea_popescu srsly, it's a cooperative (association). [20:18]
guruvan yes a coop c [20:18]
mircea_popescu mmm [20:18]
mcorlett Let's settle on coompany. [20:19]
mircea_popescu coompany lol [20:19]
mircea_popescu you're saying its a motorcicling car. [20:19]
JWU_42 rg: ping! [20:19]
mircea_popescu no, it's a motorcicle. [20:19]
guruvan sez cooperative on their web even :D [20:19]
BTC_Bear JWU_42: If it's about the post from Goat, grubles is aware. [20:20]
JWU_42 10-4 [20:20]
JWU_42 thks BTC_Bear [20:20]
mircea_popescu did i miss out on some drama ? [20:21]
guruvan sounds like i missed it too [20:22]
kakobrekla urlpls [20:22]
mircea_popescu we must have draama! [20:23]
mircea_popescu bitcoin + the internets + the power of drama = VICTORY OF CAPITALISM [20:23]
JWU_42 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54467.msg868322#msg868322 [20:24]
JWU_42 the usual crap [20:24]
kakobrekla heh [20:25]
kakobrekla maybe that triggered the large drop of 10shares on bitvps today [20:26]
kakobrekla ;> [20:26]
guruvan 2x per week backups? [20:26]
kakobrekla yeah and that lol [20:26]
kakobrekla my non money related stuff is backed up every 24h [20:27]
JWU_42 that wasn't very confidence inspiring [20:27]
guruvan might explain som of the late night buying on Tygrr stuff [20:27]
kakobrekla and its a shitton of it [20:27]
guruvan no [20:27]
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JWU_42 http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/04/25/1549252/bitcoin-mining-startup-gets-500k-in-venture-capital [20:38]
JWU_42 in case you missed it [20:38]
guruvan note on bitcoinpeople.googlegroups.com "ViBanko.com will be shutting down very soon." (May 1st) git yer monies! [20:44]
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mircea_popescu hmm [21:05]
mircea_popescu half a mil is pretty decent [21:06]
mircea_popescu not enough for a good asic run, but still decent [21:06]
mircea_popescu Forbes explains the details of their business plan but in short it has to do with tapping the GPU mining potential of gamers [21:06]
mircea_popescu the model is braindead, but otherwise, cool. [21:07]
vragnaroda 17:08 < mircea_pope> | whp the fuck is paul krugman <-- He's an “economics” professor at Princeton University and a writer for the New York Times. He's a fucking clown. (He thinks the economic downturn is because governments weren't spending enough money or some such bullshit.) [21:07]
mircea_popescu i was being sarcastic. he's an economy prof for the same reason obama is a nobel prize laureate : [21:08]
BTC_Bear an a constitutional lawyer, president of the Harvard Law Review with no actual reviews. [21:09]
mircea_popescu in short, a monkey. [21:09]
mircea_popescu exists for the entertainment value of those entertained by him. [21:09]
mircea_popescu Spend some time with Bitcoin. Learn it, challenge it, and use it. You can assume no government wants you adopting this system in any capacity, and for that reason alone it's worth consideration by honest, moral, and industrious people. [21:10]
mircea_popescu now this is an excellent point. [21:10]
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vragnaroda Paul Krugman's the guy you want to say “Are you trolling me or really that fucking stupid?” whenever he opens his mouth IRL. ;) [21:12]
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mircea_popescu Erik is also a partner in a couple top-secret super-subversive Bitcoin-based projects and coordinates the Free State Bitcoin Consortium group among liberty activists in New Hampshire. [21:13]
mircea_popescu why are people so adamantly insistent on being 9 ? [21:13]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda : srsly. couldn't have said it better. [21:14]
vragnaroda Ugh, whenever I see references to the Free State Project, it makes me want to hurt people. [21:15]
mircea_popescu i have no ideea what it is [21:18]
mircea_popescu what is it ? [21:18]
mircea_popescu nh [21:18]
mircea_popescu s supersubersive plan to seccede ? [21:18]
vragnaroda No, it's a plan to get a whole bunch of people to agree that once enough people agree, they'll all move there and subvert the local political institutions and make it more libertarian. [21:18]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Libertarian circlejerk [21:18]
mircea_popescu lol, it's a front for a dating club ? [21:19]
vragnaroda They decided on Vermont because of (1) no seat belt law and (2) unrestricted concealed carry (which other states have now, too). [21:19]
mircea_popescu why are these criteria relevant ?! [21:19]
vragnaroda Actually, no, they went with NH, not VT. [21:20]
mircea_popescu i'd imagine the one thing of importance is total voter turnout [21:20]
vragnaroda Never mind, I don't know why they chose it. [21:20]
mircea_popescu nh is pretty small [21:20]
mircea_popescu i once drove accidentally straight into canada looking for nh [21:20]
mircea_popescu the canadians were like... lol. [21:20]
vragnaroda I think that was supposedly the main criterion but that'd be a reason for Wyoming more than NH. [21:21]
vragnaroda I've never actually visited Canada. [21:21]
mircea_popescu they speak a lot of french [21:22]
vragnaroda Yeah, but they're Canadian so they have nothing interesting to say. [21:23]
mircea_popescu lol [21:23]
mircea_popescu some of them have interesting things to show. [21:23]
vragnaroda They end up working as writers and shit for American TV networks. :D [21:24]
mircea_popescu lol. [21:24]
mircea_popescu anyway, obviously the libertarians won't go to wyomyng. [21:24]
mircea_popescu that's a nobrainer. [21:24]
vragnaroda Trailer Park Boys was pretty funny, though. [21:24]
mod6 yes. [21:25]
mircea_popescu libertarian in my experience is a socially acceptable (in the very repressive us social environ) of saying you're a fifty something looking for late teen tail. [21:25]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: This is the a clip from the best TV show that was actually produced in Canada. [21:25]
mircea_popescu Among prominent individuals from New Hampshire are founding father Nicholas Gilman, Senator Daniel Webster, Revolutionary War hero John Stark, editor Horace Greeley, founder of the Christian Science religion Mary Baker Eddy, poet Robert Frost, astronaut Alan Shepard, and author Dan Brown. New Hampshire has produced one president: Franklin Pierce. [21:26]
vragnaroda http://youtu.be/8GGL0qGk5lA [21:26]
mircea_popescu such fail for srsly. Pierce ? [21:26]
mircea_popescu This video is currently unavailable. [21:27]
vragnaroda Webster, Frost, and Shepherd are the only ones worth mentioning. [21:27]
vragnaroda Fuck. [21:27]
vragnaroda Webster mostly because he was born on my negative birthday. [21:27]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: What about this one? http://youtu.be/dO1RLnJBQzc [21:36]
mircea_popescu This video is currently unavailable. [21:41]
mircea_popescu youtube of sucl [21:41]
mircea_popescu suck* [21:41]
vragnaroda Jesus. [21:41]
mircea_popescu im on html5, so, modern vids pls ?:D [21:41]
vragnaroda Well, it's hysterical. [21:41]
mircea_popescu With some of the largest ski mountains on the East Coast, New Hampshire's major recreational attractions include skiing, snowmobiling and other winter sports, hiking and mountaineering, observing the fall foliage, [21:42]
mircea_popescu observing the fall foliage olympics ? [21:42]
vragnaroda The advantages of New Hampshire is that there are no people. [21:42]
vragnaroda But, there are better places to go for that. [21:43]
mircea_popescu pakistan [21:43]
mircea_popescu they're all in london nao. [21:43]
vragnaroda Pakistan would suck. [21:43]
vragnaroda I was thinking more like North Dakota. [21:43]
vragnaroda I've heard great things about Alaska, too. [21:44]
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mircea_popescu a good friend was born there. has a lot of fond memories. [21:45]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: lol @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg868086#msg868086 [21:57]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:57]
mircea_popescu lucky she's a she, otherwise she'd prolly get shot. [21:57]
mcorlett Look at her flaunting her body in that profile picture. [21:58]
vragnaroda She says that a lot, though. [21:58]
vragnaroda lol, speaking of which, from another channel: [21:58]
vragnaroda 16:59 <+vragnaroda> 16:50 < mircea_pope> | no sandbox! WE BAREBACK! <-- Whoa [21:58]
vragnaroda 17:09 <+ reeses> | explains why he had to pick the defensive girl with low self esteem who tries to compensate by showing off her big boobs but leaving the lights low to hide the fact that they're big because she's fat [21:58]
mircea_popescu ugh [21:59]
vragnaroda It's reeses; that's the kind of thing he says. ;) [21:59]
mcorlett T... Touché? [21:59]
mircea_popescu im just wondering lol. [21:59]
mircea_popescu i had to what ? why ? wtf. [22:00]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Don't fight it. [22:01]
vragnaroda .wik banana ketchup [22:13]
markac "Banana ketchup or banana sauce is a popular Philippine condiment made from mashed banana, sugar, vinegar, and spices." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_ketchup [22:13]
vragnaroda What the fuck? [22:13]
mcorlett Problem? [22:14]
mircea_popescu sounds par for the course. [22:14]
vragnaroda I don't know who would come up with something like that but it *sounds* delicious. [22:14]
mircea_popescu i don't like sweetened vinegar. [22:14]
mircea_popescu gives me heartburn to boot. [22:15]
vragnaroda Well, apparently, it was Maria Y. Orosa that came up with it due to a tomato shortage. [22:16]
mircea_popescu i never heard of her. [22:18]
vragnaroda Nor had I. She's not important. (She was Filipino ffs.) [22:19]
mircea_popescu ahh, this has been grandly delicious. a buncha haters from my blog made (or stole, i don't recall) a #trilema chan. i let them be for ~6 months and claimed it now. [22:19]
mircea_popescu large swaths of butthurt ensue. [22:19]
vragnaroda Ah, amusing. [22:19]
mircea_popescu you always gotta let muppets get emotionally invested first. [22:19]
mircea_popescu sticking it to the man and all that. [22:19]
mircea_popescu otherwise it doesn't sting so much. [22:19]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Oh wow, I see Romanian with diacritics and shit in there now. :o [22:20]
mircea_popescu yeh. [22:20]
mircea_popescu the genuine article. [22:20]
* vragnaroda approves. [22:20]
mircea_popescu and actually that oama character is a woman [22:20]
mircea_popescu a little on the heavy side, but a woman, [22:20]
mircea_popescu which i guess makes reese's argument even funnier [22:21]
mircea_popescu seeing how i could have easily picked larger womenz if it was a criterion. [22:21]
vragnaroda Romanian is weird. [22:22]
mircea_popescu not as weird as hungarian, i'll tell you that. [22:22]
vragnaroda Well, Hungarian's not IE. It's supposed to be different. [22:22]
mircea_popescu there's good different and there's bad different [22:23]
mircea_popescu and then there's hungarian, below that. [22:23]
mcorlett <_Cristian> mcorlett: have you seen mircea_popescu lately? [22:23]
mircea_popescu lol you two are buddies ? [22:23]
mcorlett I don't know the guy. [22:23]
mircea_popescu hahaha [22:23]
mcorlett Here he comes. [22:23]
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_Cristian ;;ident mircea_popescu [22:24]
gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@89.137.247.39', is not identified. [22:24]
vragnaroda _Cristian: 안녕하세요. [22:24]
mircea_popescu didja want somethin' ? [22:24]
_Cristian vragnaroda: that's chinese to me [22:25]
* vragnaroda golpea a _Cristian. [22:25]
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vragnaroda _Cristian: Chinese is not written with curves. [22:26]
vragnaroda If there's a circle (and it isn't a 0), it isn't Chinese. [22:26]
_Cristian vragnaroda: English please [22:26]
Mqrius It's Korean, anyway. [22:26]
mircea_popescu hey, that's actually a pretty good criterion. [22:26]
vragnaroda _Cristian: ¿Y si prefiero el español? [22:27]
mircea_popescu i wonder what the reason is [22:27]
Mqrius (As far as my Asian language knowledge goes.) [22:27]
mircea_popescu Mqrius it's too verbose to be chinese anyway, they usually manage hi in less than 20 strokes. [22:27]
Mqrius Spaans is ten minste Europees, dat is al wat beter. [22:27]
vragnaroda _Cristian: On est sur #bitcoin-otc-eu et ici, on peut parler beaucoup de langues. :p [22:28]
mcorlett Dutch is surprisingly understandable! [22:28]
vragnaroda .tr :nl :ko Spaans is ten minste Europees, dat is al wat beter. [22:29]
markac vragnaroda: "스페인어 는 더 나아 적어도 유럽 이다." (nl to ko, translate.google.com) [22:29]
Mqrius Chinese hi in pōnyīn: Nǐ hǎo [22:29]
Mqrius pīnyīn* [22:29]
vragnaroda Better spelling: 你好。 :p [22:29]
Mqrius :P [22:29]
Mqrius That's not pinyin though so it's not a better spelling in pinyin :P [22:30]
vragnaroda Anything is a better spelling than pinyin. :p [22:30]
vragnaroda Pinyin is communist. [22:30]
mircea_popescu whoa, pony in ?! [22:30]
Mqrius I can read pinyin better than, uh, whatchamacallits, kanji, but the chinese version. [22:30]
* vragnaroda smacks Mqrius [22:30]
mircea_popescu why are you so violent dood ? have a teat. [22:31]
vragnaroda Mqrius: Better than 漢字? [22:31]
_Cristian vragnaroda: atunci pot să zic și eu ceva de dulce în română, nu? [22:31]
vragnaroda (Hanzi :p) [22:31]
vragnaroda .tr atunci pot să zic și eu ceva de dulce în română, nu? [22:31]
markac vragnaroda: "then and I can say something sweet in Romanian , right?" (ro to en, translate.google.com) [22:31]
mircea_popescu Kürtőskalács. [22:32]
Mqrius Yes, Hànzì are difficult, and I have to copy paste all the way to google translate to even check if I know the words :P [22:32]
vragnaroda _Cristian: 네. [22:32]
Mqrius Wǒ bù shuō zhōngwén. [22:32]
* _Cristian wonders if google translate can translate alupigus [22:32]
mircea_popescu شما می توانید تمام منحرف [22:33]
vragnaroda Mqrius: 我是美国人。 is the longest sentence I can say in Mandarin. :p [22:33]
vragnaroda .tr شما می توانید تمام منحرف [22:33]
markac vragnaroda: "You can divert all" (fa to en, translate.google.com) [22:33]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: That script is totally not cool. [22:33]
mircea_popescu my script pwns your script. [22:33]
_Cristian mircea_popescu: mânca-mi-ai scriptu' [22:34]
mircea_popescu and btw re the libertarian free country etc : i just realised they basically are aiming to be jews. [22:34]
_Cristian mircea_popescu: că habar n-ai cum să-ți configurezi diacriticele [22:34]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Jews wouldn't bother me much if they stopped mutilating little boys' genitals. [22:34]
_Cristian vragnaroda: did mircea_popescu admit that he's a Jew? [22:35]
mircea_popescu i like jews as the universal reservoir of unruly redhaired chicks they are. [22:35]
vragnaroda _Cristian: Not to the best of my knowledge. [22:35]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Are you a kike? [22:36]
Mqrius Also, fick Chinesisch, ich versuche Deutsch zu lernen. [22:36]
mircea_popescu sie gonnen mir nicht slesien ? [22:36]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda : not to the best of my knowledge [22:36]
mircea_popescu why, are you ? [22:36]
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vragnaroda No, but _Cristian seemed to think you might be. [22:37]
mircea_popescu i imagine _Cristian by now has an altar to me hidden somewhere. [22:37]
Mqrius mircea_popescu: Ist das phonetisch Deutsch? :P Was meinst du mit "slesien"? :P [22:37]
mircea_popescu Schlesien :D [22:38]
_Cristian vragnaroda: actually mircea_popescu said that the Jews would wish that he would be a Jew [22:38]
mircea_popescu i just enjoy trolling ppl hooked to .tr [22:38]
Mqrius Hehe :P [22:38]
vragnaroda Until Google detects I'm scraping their website instead of paying to use their API. :p [22:38]
Mqrius Da'kan mt Neerlans ok wel hoor. [22:39]
_Cristian vragnaroda: what API? [22:39]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda i didn't even know they charged ?! [22:39]
vragnaroda _Cristian: google translate has an API [22:40]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Yeah, it's been a few months now. :( [22:40]
mircea_popescu ridiculous. [22:40]
vragnaroda It broke gribble, too. :-( [22:41]
vragnaroda ;;translate ko en 병신 지랄을. [22:41]
gribble Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html. [22:41]
vragnaroda .tr 병신 지랄을. [22:42]
markac vragnaroda: "Fuck you asshole ." (ko to en, translate.google.com) [22:42]
_Cristian mircea_popescu: speaking of services, are you using a password for GRUB on your server? [22:42]
mircea_popescu did you actually type that shit ?! [22:43]
mcorlett Huh, why is the Translate API not free? [22:43]
mcorlett Can't they just sell my private information like they do with their other services? [22:43]
_Cristian mircea_popescu: so you admit that you don't have a GRUB password on your server [22:43]
vragnaroda mcorlett: Not really when it's used via the API. [22:44]
mircea_popescu how much do they charge anyway ? [22:44]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Did I actually type “병신 지랄을”? Not above but I did this time. I had to find it in my log from another channel. [22:44]
mircea_popescu this is why imo all asian alphabets are d oomed. who the fuck has the patience anymore. [22:45]
vragnaroda Someone asked a Korean to help him register with some Korean game server and that was the response. ;) [22:45]
mircea_popescu 27 letters are sufficient for anyone. [22:45]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: 한글 only has 24. :p [22:45]
mircea_popescu course maybe a new napoleon comes along with a lettric system. [22:45]
vragnaroda lol [22:46]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Really, it depends on what you count as different letters, but the normal count of 24 is ㄱ, ㄴ, ㄷ, ㄹ, ㅁ, ㅂ, ㅅ, ㅇ, ㅈ, ㅊ, ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅍ, ㅎ, ㅏ, ㅓ, ㅗ, ㅜ, ㅡ, ㅣ, ㅑ, ㅕ, ㅛ, and ㅠ. [22:53]
mircea_popescu srsly ? [22:54]
vragnaroda Sometimes, ㅃ,ㅉ,ㄸ,ㄲ,ㅆ are counted as separate letters, though. [22:54]
mircea_popescu i didn't know specifically but imagined they're all in the 50+ counts. [22:54]
vragnaroda Yes, seriously. The Korean writing system is extremely simple. [22:54]
mircea_popescu k, good to know. [22:55]
mircea_popescu (no wonder you're learning it :o) [22:55]
vragnaroda It's just that letters are arranged in syllable blocks so ㅎ ㅏ ㄴ ㄱ ㅡ ㄹ becomes 한글. [22:55]
mircea_popescu aha [22:56]
mircea_popescu y no liniar! [22:57]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: They used to mix Chinese characters in, too, but other than lawyers and religious scholars, it's not used anymore. [22:57]
vragnaroda Well, because Korean syllable structure is very simple. There aren't very many consonant clusters. [22:57]
Mqrius On a tangentially related note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voI_Zt_9GLw&hd=1 [22:57]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: And, ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ are all just the aspirated forms of ㄱ, ㄷ, ㅈ, and ㅂ. [22:59]
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mircea_popescu asshole alsa... [23:01]
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vragnaroda But with the Korean IME, I can still get to the Chinese characters by typing the Hangeul and hitting alt+enter: 한자+alt+enter={漢子,漢字,韓字,한자}. (漢字 (한자) is the term for Chinese characters.) [23:03]
rawrmage χ² [23:03]
vragnaroda (I don't know many, but I can recognize a few.) [23:03]
rawrmage vragnaroda: おはよう [23:04]
vragnaroda rawrmage: ᚻᛖᛚᛚᚩ᛫ [23:06]
vragnaroda .tr おはよう [23:06]
markac vragnaroda: "Good morning" (ja to en, translate.google.com) [23:06]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I'm still going to be working on a Sinicized English orthography, though. (Writing English with 漢字. :p) [23:08]
rawrmage .tr ᚻᛖᛚᛚᚩ [23:08]
markac rawrmage: "We are not yet able to translate from Hawaiian into English." (haw to en, translate.google.com) [23:08]
rawrmage lol [23:08]
vragnaroda What the fuck? [23:08]
vragnaroda rawrmage: hello [23:08]
rawrmage coi [23:08]
rawrmage .tr coi .i do mo [23:08]
markac rawrmage: "with . i do mo" (it to en, translate.google.com) [23:08]
vragnaroda lol [23:08]
rawrmage .tr la gugl. jai fenki [23:08]
markac rawrmage: "the gugl . Jai fenki" (eo to en, translate.google.com) [23:08]
rawrmage ok [23:09]
mircea_popescu coi actually is the singular of testicle in ro. [23:09]
vragnaroda rawrmage: With yingzi, I may use the fuþorc as Japanese uses kana. [23:09]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: It's a Lojban greeting. [23:09]
mircea_popescu its a romanian greeting too [23:10]
mircea_popescu in some circumstances [23:10]
vragnaroda lol [23:10]
rawrmage .tr :ro :en coi [23:12]
markac rawrmage: "helm" (ro to en, translate.google.com) [23:12]
vragnaroda rawrmage: I really like mixed writing systems and Japanese is cool in that regard. When I'm emperor and English speakers start writing English in 漢字 and ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ, I may need another system, too, just for shits and giggles. [23:12]
rawrmage lol [23:12]
mircea_popescu that's wrong. [23:13]
vragnaroda I can't really use the nick vragnaroda then, though. [23:13]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Japanese is written with logo-/ideographs and two different syllabries. It's cool. :p [23:14]
mircea_popescu you know complexity in the system of notation is not the point [23:14]
mircea_popescu complexity in what's actually noted is the point. [23:15]
vragnaroda (Note the spelling syllabry to emphasize to people *NOT* to fucking pronounce it sylla-berry, which is common and I fucking hate.) [23:15]
mircea_popescu sillyberry. [23:15]
vragnaroda Grrr. [23:16]
rawrmage .u ħ [23:16]
markac U+0127 LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH STROKE (ħ) [23:16]
rawrmage why isn't that in my xmodmap? [23:16]
Mqrius h-bar, fuck yeah. [23:16]
rawrmage ħω [23:16]
rawrmage good [23:16]
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rawrmage oh I did get whitelisted yay [23:24]
rawrmage NOW I CAN ENGAGE IN THE HIGH SOCIETY THAT IS BITCOINTALK AT LARGE [23:25]
rawrmage MUAHAHAHAHA [23:25]
mircea_popescu lol [23:25]
mircea_popescu ponyian be with you [23:25]
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smickles ಠ_ಠ @ some people on bitcointalk [23:33]
mircea_popescu lol what nao [23:33]
mircea_popescu btw smickles : i pointed you out on my blog as possibly the best investment in the history of bitcoin. [23:34]
smickles nothin new, just still put off by psy [23:34]
mircea_popescu eh why do you care. [23:34]
smickles put off re checking the forum [23:34]
mircea_popescu a. well, you know, it's a forum. [23:35]
smickles ooOoh, thanks for the honour [23:35]
MarcZ anyone from netherlands/belgium here? i've got coupons for bol.com if someone wants to sell btc for them [23:35]
* vragnaroda smacks smickles for that superfluous ‹u›. [23:37]
smickles lol, @ google translate, "'this guy that I called Michael Carver and his smickles" [23:38]
smickles vragnaroda: fogive me, i lack some one handed typing while feeding baby skills [23:39]
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mircea_popescu smickles it's "his name is m. c. but he calls himself smickles" [23:42]
vragnaroda Oh, you want to see Google Translate at its finest? [23:43]
vragnaroda .wik :ko 질 [23:43]
markac "질(膣)은 자궁 경부의 질부에 이어지는 관상의 기관이며, 길이는 약 7~8㎝이다." - http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/질 [23:43]
vragnaroda .tr "질(膣)은 자궁 경부의 질부에 이어지는 관상의 기관이며, 길이는 약 7~8㎝이다." [23:43]
markac vragnaroda: ""Jill (膣) of the cervix , leading to vaginal tubular organ , and the length is about 7 ~ 8 ㎝ ."" (ko to en, translate.google.com) [23:43]
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mcorlett MarcZ: Check with Mqrius. [23:49]
Mqrius Thanks for the referral, but I don't need bol.com tickets :) [23:50]
Mqrius I can sell BTC for simple bank transfer though. [23:50]
mcorlett Nice, a service using text-to-image scripts to display emails! [23:55]
mcorlett Here's the catch: the email is passed as a variable in the URL. [23:56]
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