Forum logs for 24 Apr 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BingoBoingo | I wonder who all is getting tapped for S.MPIF | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu | well you're one. | [00:00] |
BingoBoingo | Of course. | [00:01] |
BingoBoingo | The hangover suggested it would be a good idea | [00:01] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0683931 = 0.342 BTC [+] | [00:06] |
fluffypony | BingoBoingo: don't forget to hydrate | [00:07] |
BingoBoingo | fluffypony: The hangover's over | [00:07] |
fluffypony | good to hear :) | [00:08] |
BingoBoingo | I wouldn't be where I am today without the ability to swiftly dispatch a hangover | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident kakobrekla | [00:08] |
gribble | Nick 'kakobrekla', with hostmask 'kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla', is identified as user 'kakobrekla', with GPG key id 27AF75321F2489E8, key fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None | [00:08] |
fluffypony | BingoBoingo: likewise...I just find myself way too unproductive for the first ~4 hours after waking up if I'm hanging like a little bitch | [00:10] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00095197 = 30.8438 BTC [-] {3} | [00:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 90 @ 0.0618981 = 5.5708 BTC [-] {9} | [00:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0678 = 0.339 BTC [+] | [00:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00482011 = 0.376 BTC [+] | [00:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00518408 = 0.1244 BTC [+] {2} | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | http://pandodaily.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/singersm1.jpg << fiattalks.org butthurt | [00:26] |
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Naphex | gn o/ | [00:28] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Still no reply from srgexpert | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | whossat again ? | [00:28] |
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BingoBoingo | http://trilema.com/2012/the-patrick-harnett-saga-continues/ | [00:30] |
ozbot | The Patrick Harnett saga continues pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [00:30] |
BingoBoingo | ? | [00:31] |
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mircea_popescu | ah | [00:37] |
fluffypony | http://pando.com/2014/04/23/startups-anonymous-things-founders-say-to-investors-that-are-complete-bs/ | [00:38] |
ozbot | Startups Anonymous: Things founders say to investors that are complete BS | PandoDaily | [00:38] |
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fluffypony | “My cofounder turned down a job at Google to focus on our company.” Translation: He applied for an internship a while back and it fell through. | [00:43] |
fluffypony | can we file that with the "world class mathematicians" involved in every cryptocurrency-related project? | [00:43] |
mircea_popescu | im looking for the world class submarines. | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | > typhoon class. | [00:46] |
asciilifeform | lol | [00:46] |
fluffypony | lol | [00:46] |
asciilifeform | miningboot? | [00:47] |
benkay | miningboot! | [00:48] |
asciilifeform | i could easily live in one, and not notice. | [00:48] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform are you this Arlyn Culwick fellow and trolling me ? | [00:50] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: plz sort creditsout noa | [00:53] |
fluffypony | *credits out | [00:54] |
bounce | you more or less missed a chance to snag a few subs for essentially free down in the crimea | [00:55] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10169256_799974603356886_8876868538876731843_n.jpg | [00:56] |
bounce | I'd buy into that. | [00:56] |
mircea_popescu | flushed. | [00:57] |
fluffypony | thank you kindly | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | nice pic | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | so do they fight the impedance or what ? | [00:59] |
fluffypony | hah hah | [00:59] |
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bounce | fighting the current, technically | [01:02] |
bounce | dissipating the power | [01:03] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:05] |
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bounce | so what is the resistance and what the impedance of... the local beach? | [01:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31262 @ 0.00095093 = 29.728 BTC [-] | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | khersonus http://blog.khersonus.com/2014/time-value-of-money/ not bad. | [01:22] |
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mircea_popescu | benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/16_erc-wot-integration-such-gift.html can you explain this to me ? | [01:25] |
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bounce | you need to speka lisp-a to understand-a | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | aokl | [01:27] |
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mircea_popescu | !up davide | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | "Additionally, algorithms from the NSA are considered a sort of alien technology: they come from a superior race with no explanations." | [01:27] |
assbot | Voicing davide for 30 minutes. | [01:27] |
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mircea_popescu | gotta love how schneier sticks these psy-ops little turds in everything he writes. | [01:28] |
bounce | though the real question is, is that a /signed/ tag? | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | yo, bruce, wakeup call : the nsa is about as fucktartded as you are. srsly. | [01:28] |
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bounce | actually, no. they employ a fsckton of mathematicians and they know everything that's in the open plus an unspecified amount we don't know about. best guess (last I heard) was that they're about five years ahead of the open community with the research | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | bounce nonsense. | [01:30] |
bounce | you can see how that works in, say, DES, where the NSA suggested stuff that turned out to be resistant to a type of attack not known publically at the time DES was finalised | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | if spending money solved problems the phoenician empire'd still be a thing. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | nobody is denying a lot of smart people work for the nsa. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | heck, a lot of smart people worked for microsoft, and alcatel, and whatever other pointless dinosaur. adobe. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | that does not make ADOBE smart. at all. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | for all the brilliant russians living in the 70s, the ussr was dumb as rocks. | [01:32] |
bounce | yeah, but we're not talking NSA as a whole. we're talking the stuff that comes out of there in the form of algorithms | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | it's not clear why this reclassification'd be useful to your position. | [01:33] |
Apocalyptic | "best guess (last I heard) was that they're about five years ahead of the open community with the research" that may have been accurate a few years ago | [01:33] |
Apocalyptic | i don't believe it's the case nowadays | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic it was perhaps accurate in the 90s. | [01:33] |
Apocalyptic | sounds reasonable | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | as the things stand right now, they never had an internal bitcoin, | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | and we wiped their heartbleed. | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | and while we know what they don't know, they don't know what we know. | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | which... you know. | [01:34] |
Apocalyptic | a possible explanation may be that cryptography as a field wasn't that broad in academia back then | [01:34] |
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bounce | still, they know what we know plus a bunch we don't know much about. we don't know how big it is, we don't know what it does. for that reason you have to be careful with their "gifts". that's the point he's making. | [01:35] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1927 @ 0.0001357 = 0.2615 BTC [+] {3} | [01:36] |
fluffypony | bed time, bye | [01:36] |
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dexX7 | good night | [01:36] |
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mircea_popescu | [01:37] | |
bounce | show how. | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | because you imagine perfect knowledge ("everyone publishes everything they know and everyone reads it all") to get your result | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | this is not at all how teh community works. | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | anyway. i know what he's pretending he's trying to say, but that ain't at all what he;s saying. what he's saying is "resistence is futile", that's the message, and it's a ridiculous. | [01:39] |
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bounce | that's not how I read it | [01:39] |
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mircea_popescu | now without offense, let me just propose to you as a theory that it's possible you'd not know how you read it. in the same sense advertising works. | [01:40] |
bounce | wouldn't surprise me if the NSA has everyone with a little crypto knowledge on watchlists just to see the privately-circulating papers | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [01:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00509 = 0.2291 BTC [-] | [01:43] |
bounce | I think you're reaching with that line of reasoning. I know how I read it and I disagree with how you read it. I will allow that a-priori notions on either side (or both) might have something to do with the interpretation. | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | well that's as far as it can possibly go huh | [01:46] |
bounce | you might ask him which he ment, and why. :-) | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | i might as well ask obama if he really meant i can keep my insurance. | [01:47] |
bounce | c'mon, cook up a nice 20 questions to finnagle the truth out of oracle schneier | [01:48] |
mircea_popescu | he'd be insulted | [01:48] |
bounce | and you care about that, how? o_O? | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | that's the trick with "being insulted" : it affords plausible deniability to they who don't want to have the truth extracted. | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | well i don't care, but he'd stop answering. | [01:49] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37550 @ 0.00095066 = 35.6973 BTC [-] {3} | [01:50] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, re your "you're reaching" comment, i told a story at teh conference that should prolly be on the record. | [01:51] |
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mircea_popescu | so, as kids, one party game was to whistle into an old, low baud modem. they were slow enough that it was still sort-of feasible. the game was, who gets the modem going for longer thinking it's got a sane modem on the other end | [01:51] |
mircea_popescu | (trivial to observe when it noticed you're human because of the very distinctive "error pls to start over" tone" | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | i believe that's really the model for all communication. | [01:52] |
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bounce | doing a little survey among cryptographers of name with how and at what size they assess the NSA's knowledge advandage, if any, might be interesting. doing it every couple years maybe even moreso. | [01:54] |
bounce | I don't think all communication is quite that lopsided, to be honest. | [01:55] |
mircea_popescu | ils ne se servent de la pensée que pour autoriser leurs injustices, et emploient les paroles que pour déguiser leurs pensées | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | bounce how do you mean lopsided ? | [01:56] |
bounce | then again, much of it isn't quite so very good either. | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | what i meant was strictly this, that your particular response matched what i may have accepted as proof that you indeed may know how you read it. | [01:57] |
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bounce | possibly. :-) | [01:59] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00095123 = 27.3003 BTC [+] {2} | [02:01] |
bounce | lopsided isn't really the word. somehow a better word eludes me for the moment. | [02:02] |
mircea_popescu | "Error getting file: -1: Unspecified error" | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | for the love of the error god ;/ | [02:05] |
bounce | context? wild guess says using fn return instead of errno like it should've been used | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | old proprietary camera. | [02:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00095161 = 10.8484 BTC [+] | [02:10] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.512 = 1.024 BTC [-] {2} | [02:10] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: Culwick wtf what? | [02:17] |
mircea_popescu | this dude arguing metaphysics with me | [02:17] |
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asciilifeform | nein, i'm still trying to wake up from me beautiful dreamz. | [02:18] |
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asciilifeform | 'Had it been a dream? It was still worth it! ... Now he had to think about his own survival. With the aid of his wrist geiger he found a deactivated lane through the rubble. He’d better get back to the shelter before dark, before the rats came out. If he didn’t hurry he’d miss the evening potato ration.' | [02:19] |
asciilifeform | (robert sheckley's 'store of the worlds' - www.e-reading.ws/txt.php/1000018/Sheckley_-_The_Store_Of_The_Worlds.txt) | [02:20] |
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asciilifeform | re: nsa crypto: | [02:23] |
asciilifeform | http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 | [02:23] |
ozbot | Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. | [02:23] |
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asciilifeform | (musings on the 'smart nsa' hypothesis, i know) | [02:23] |
asciilifeform | exercise in 'intelligence with open sources' | [02:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.51999999 BTC [+] | [02:25] |
asciilifeform | more seriously, virtually nothing re: cryptology from the era preceding modern computing is worth terribly much. | [02:25] |
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mircea_popescu | so on the very good news front, i've already lined up 4 managers for s.mpif, whole shebang nominally worth a little north of 170 btc atm. | [02:25] |
asciilifeform | the americans really fucked themselves. 'why bother being strong, let's make everyone weak.' they somehow kept most of the planet using rotor (!) crypto machines through the '70s! | [02:27] |
asciilifeform | ;;google CryptoAG | [02:27] |
gribble | Crypto AG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform funny you should mention crypto ag | [02:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00095284 = 14.8881 BTC [+] | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | because...well... they use the mpex shareholding model. | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | apparently this is possible in fiat just fine. whodda thunk it. | [02:28] |
asciilifeform | phun phact. cryptoag still exists! and used by diplomats, etc. how to explain? only theory i can think of is that folks deliberately buy into the crapola - as a gesture of doggy submission to usa | [02:28] |
asciilifeform | this is possible in fiat just fine << various 'impossibles' are quite possible when they must. | [02:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06792804 = 0.4755 BTC [+] {3} | [02:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06869835 = 0.5496 BTC [+] {2} | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | right. what's "impossible" is just admitting mp has the power to make the impossible quite possible. | [02:30] |
mike_c | mircea_popescu: will piffy managers and projects be announced? | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c of course. | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | prolly tomorrow, actually. | [02:31] |
mike_c | follow up question: is BingoBoingo all 4 managers? ;) | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | nope. just 1. | [02:31] |
asciilifeform | the power to make the impossible quite possible << Führerprinzip, the elixir of shit getting done. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c actually i'll bet you a certain pizza you won't be able to guess all 4. | [02:33] |
mike_c | hmm | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | you get a list as long as you wish, provided you publish it by tomorrow. | [02:33] |
mike_c | i hate to turn down action, but feels like a tough wager. there are a lot of people i don't know. | [02:34] |
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mircea_popescu | im known for my tough wagers and an almost fanatical devotion to the poke. | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rated mike_c | [02:37] |
gribble | You rated user mike_c on Tue Mar 25 20:15:55 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: blogger, dev. | [02:37] |
jurov | soooo... should i stay up to add S.MPIF to coinbr or it can wait? | [02:37] |
mircea_popescu | jurov can wait, the contract'll be up at a sane time, but in a few days. | [02:37] |
mircea_popescu | and trading will open after anyway | [02:37] |
jurov | gut | [02:37] |
BingoBoingo | I'm kind of curious what other markets S.MPIF is going to venture into | [02:38] |
mircea_popescu | i'll bet you you won't be able to guess all 4. | [02:38] |
mircea_popescu | same deal. | [02:38] |
asciilifeform | smpif sounds neat but too big for me puny brain. | [02:39] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform actually it's devilishly simple. you'll see after a few monthly reports. | [02:39] |
asciilifeform | arbitrobots? | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | nop. | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | no robots. unlike the alex chick i'm an ACTUAL luddite. i use people. | [02:40] |
mike_c | buying houses in ohio? | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | nop. | [02:40] |
kakobrekla | mike_c in argentina | [02:40] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I prefer meat bot to describe my role in this | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | no, there's no real estate at all. | [02:41] |
mike_c | lol. argentina house flipping! | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | this makes it fair for BingoBoingo, seeing how mike_c also knew 1. | [02:41] |
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asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: no shame in this. atm i'm doing things chinese robogirls won't do | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | ^ | [02:41] |
* | mircea_popescu is known for turning people into robots. | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | sieg hail. | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | also, http://oglaf.com/porkchisel/ | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | 'i am bender, please insert girder.' ('futurama') | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | shame that arbitrobots appear to be a dead field. the modus operandi of mine, for instance, was to root out and autorape other bots. | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [02:44] |
asciilifeform | never bothered to make it airworthy, though, so it's a boring tale. | [02:45] |
asciilifeform | it was, at one point (laugh, sure) intended to play on... gox. | [02:46] |
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asciilifeform | i lost interest in the project >1yr ago, when i realized that i won't be selling so much as 1 btc while i live here. | [02:48] |
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benkay | amen | [02:49] |
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mircea_popescu | not a bad policy. | [02:49] |
asciilifeform | people still say 'martian' | [02:50] |
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asciilifeform | glad the chicoms happily take bezollars. (for now.) | [02:52] |
asciilifeform | or i'd have to etch boards again, like when student. | [02:53] |
asciilifeform | (and eat wildlife) | [02:53] |
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kakobrekla | local companies? | [02:59] |
BingoBoingo | Much of the best food is wildlife | [02:59] |
kakobrekla | i have two low-mid series pcb manufacturers in 5km radius | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | sooo! | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | this is the highest linecount since forever | [03:00] |
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mircea_popescu | 2.) fluffypony 1247 3.) assbot 1211 << africans and their long peens. | [03:01] |
BingoBoingo | Imma have to guess the S.MPIF markets are BTC/USD, BTC/Typhoon submarines, BTC/Uranium, and BTC/Human Souls | [03:01] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/UvspIIq,CqpmXCx,p2ExGTe,qAcmmpX,SJ3lCpM,avlxgmG,dr2NHfE,3yeBuFm | [03:02] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [03:02] |
mike_c | hm, there has got to be an arbitrage loop on btc/usd/human souls | [03:02] |
mircea_popescu | Humanity was almost extinguished, their spirits becoming part of the background radiation that blanketed the earth. | [03:02] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/embed/pXMnRaSkkp4 | [03:03] |
ozbot | Fallout 2 Intro (1998) - YouTube | [03:03] |
asciilifeform | 'the man who loved the faioli' ! | [03:03] |
asciilifeform | http://www.lib.ru/ZELQZNY/TheManWhoLovedTheFaioli.txt | [03:03] |
asciilifeform | (or maybe not. but i was damn sure that was in there) | [03:03] |
BingoBoingo | "From 1985 to 1989 Williamson worked at Nicolet Instruments in Madison, Wisconsin where he was the primary author on two digital hearing aid patents." | [03:06] |
BingoBoingo | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exchange | [03:06] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.flickr.com/photos/74896762@N00/3167352760/ | [03:12] |
ozbot | amniotic sac | Flickr - Photo Sharing | [03:12] |
asciilifeform | earlier link was steam plant in Timis. | [03:13] |
BingoBoingo | Ah, cool | [03:13] |
asciilifeform | 0400 hour, monday | [03:13] |
asciilifeform | hieronymous bosch apparently lives there. | [03:13] |
BingoBoingo | Amazing how in the US Steam plants are generally just a University thing and yet every on campus steam plant I've seen has been as boring as shit. | [03:14] |
asciilifeform | on account of boschlessness. | [03:14] |
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asciilifeform | re: Faioli << recommended to all aficionados of pet manticores. | [03:18] |
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asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/KSmZQ69 | [03:19] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [03:19] |
asciilifeform | ^ sherlock holmes. | [03:19] |
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benkay | lysergic precursors are strictly controlled, whaddaya expect? | [03:19] |
asciilifeform | let them control carbon. | [03:20] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/SLpTRCm | [03:22] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [03:22] |
asciilifeform | ^ femei | [03:22] |
asciilifeform | (clicked? admit, lustful buggers) | [03:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5425 @ 0.00095286 = 5.1693 BTC [+] {2} | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | well i hadn't, but if you insist | [03:23] |
asciilifeform | lol | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | was that the abandoned urinal ? | [03:23] |
asciilifeform | menstrual. | [03:23] |
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mircea_popescu | here's the story of the blessings of lobbyism | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | romania had, in all cities, proper urinals built all over town. the whole shebang, with running water. | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | dumbass firm started importing the 2mc bullshits, with chemical "processing" | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | and got kickback-based contracts to "supply" the city. | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | as a result, all the proper urinals are nao destroyed. | [03:25] |
asciilifeform | ugh | [03:25] |
mircea_popescu | because well.... they can't compete, because they solve a problem rather than grooming it with dysfunctional non-solutions, and so have nothing to kick back. | [03:25] |
asciilifeform | classic | [03:25] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/RL9x21p | [03:25] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [03:25] |
asciilifeform | ^ femei, for real | [03:25] |
mircea_popescu | now... explain to me again how teh nsa is 5 years ahead of my penis. | [03:25] |
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benkay | to further our discussion of economies: http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/batesian-mimicry-explanation-of.html | [03:26] |
kakobrekla | o looky | [03:26] |
kakobrekla | davout asciilifeform | [03:26] |
kakobrekla | http://flappy2048.com | [03:26] |
kakobrekla | also mike_c and whoever else | [03:27] |
mike_c | fuck, there goes my evening. | [03:27] |
asciilifeform | defunct ? | [03:27] |
kakobrekla | works here | [03:28] |
asciilifeform | ehehe, flash | [03:28] |
mircea_popescu | "In an expansion investors are constantly looking for better places to invest their capital, while entrepreneurs are always overconfident, hoping to get capital to fund their restless ambition. Sometimes, the investors (dupes) think a certain set of key characteristics are sufficient statistics of a quality investment because historically they were. Mimic entrepreneurs seize upon these key characteristics that will all | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | ow them to garner funds from the duped investors. " | [03:29] |
benkay | Once the number of mimics is sufficiently high, their valueless enterprises become too conspicuous and they no longer pass off as legitimate investments. | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | benkay a good theory which requires dupes to have a functioning ganglion. | [03:29] |
benkay | (quotes, etc) | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | they... don't, mostly. | [03:29] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/VZ8jZkP | [03:29] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [03:29] |
benkay | no but they have shitloads of cash | [03:30] |
asciilifeform | ^ statute to the unknown lamer | [03:30] |
asciilifeform | *statue | [03:30] |
mircea_popescu | Your browser is not compatible with this site. Sorry :( << kakobrekla wtf bs! | [03:30] |
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kakobrekla | anyway it involved different kind of brain power than the 2048 | [03:30] |
kakobrekla | much less actual thinking | [03:30] |
kakobrekla | mp you know just scammin around | [03:31] |
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kakobrekla | anyway i just thought it was rele-tarded enough to post. | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | "AllAdvantage was a website that paid members to surf the Net. It paid to acquire these users, and supposedly leveraged its members’ eyeballs into advertizing dollars. At the initial fundraiser internet capitalist Frank Quattrone, who helped fund Cisco and many other legitimate successful concerns, and President Clinton both paid tribute to AllAdvantage" | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | muy true | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | i wish the falk joined hiar. | [03:32] |
benkay | "For example, subsequent to the 1990 Commercial Real Estate debacle, defaults in this asset class were well below average across the board for the subsequent decade. In the aftermath of that crisis, newly issued Commercial Real Estate Asset Backed securities did very well, because everyone was especially cognizant of the risk factors involved. A similar thing happened in railroads after the Penn Central railroad defaulted in the early | [03:32] |
benkay | 1970s. Fooled once, investors were not fooled again in that specific way, making the key risky asset characteristic of the latest recession a metric of safety going forward." | [03:32] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/32Hn20X | [03:32] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [03:32] |
asciilifeform | ^ this is posted for a reason | [03:32] |
benkay | if only the forum knew its own history. | [03:33] |
asciilifeform | and not simply because this toilet is bigger than my living room | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | sadly blog is pretty much abandoned | [03:33] |
asciilifeform | me grandpa (physicist) first encountered a bidet in vienna | [03:33] |
asciilifeform | in '45. | [03:33] |
asciilifeform | he went 'fuck, this place has 2 shitters' | [03:33] |
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kakobrekla | lol | [03:34] |
asciilifeform | and of course deposited in the smaller one | [03:34] |
mircea_popescu | bidets are great. can't keep young women w/o em | [03:34] |
asciilifeform | commander made him clean it out. with matchsticks. | [03:34] |
asciilifeform | i've never seen one in person previously. | [03:34] |
asciilifeform | but at least i knew grandfather's fate. | [03:35] |
mircea_popescu | but see, suppose you wanna eat her out. what do you do ? full shower ? sink acrobatics ? | [03:35] |
asciilifeform | lolmatic | [03:35] |
benkay | plenty of material left. | [03:36] |
asciilifeform | we all wanna have 'timisoara problems' | [03:36] |
asciilifeform | vs. finding a deactivated path through the rubble with wrist geiger... | [03:37] |
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asciilifeform | (other grandpa, field hospital, not sure he ever saw bidet until died) | [03:42] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [11:07] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [11:07] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 | [11:07] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [11:07] |
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fluffypony | moiety: top o' the mornin' | [11:07] |
moiety | morning! | [11:08] |
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mircea_popescu | heya! | [11:08] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: morning | [11:08] |
moiety | how are you guys today? | [11:09] |
moiety | i don't feel fully awake | [11:09] |
fluffypony | also feeling a little bushed | [11:09] |
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fluffypony | need a third espresso | [11:09] |
wywialm | hello moiety, hello mircea_popescu | [11:09] |
mircea_popescu | you people and teh coffee habit. | [11:10] |
mircea_popescu | o hey, wywialm didja read my fundamental thing on economics ? | [11:10] |
wywialm | yes, i did, i'm in the process of responding | [11:11] |
wywialm | it may take a day or so, unfortunately | [11:12] |
fluffypony | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html | [11:13] |
ozbot | Court refuses trial by combat - Telegraph | [11:13] |
wywialm | would you like to discuss it in the channel or read my opinion in the comments? | [11:13] |
mircea_popescu | wywialm no rush! | [11:13] |
mircea_popescu | comments better. | [11:13] |
wywialm | sure | [11:13] |
mircea_popescu | the channel is difficult to sort for all but the most advanced of wizards | [11:14] |
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Naphex | morning | [11:14] |
moiety | I'm now imagining you in full wizard get up when in here | [11:15] |
moiety | http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/23/raf-fighter-jets-russian-bombers-scotland | [11:15] |
ozbot | RAF fighter jets intercept Russian bombers off coast of Scotland | UK news | theguardian.com | [11:15] |
wywialm | good morning, Naphex | [11:15] |
mircea_popescu | A court has rejected a 60-year-old man's attempt to invoke the ancient right to trial by combat, rather than pay a £25 fine for a minor motoring offence. | [11:15] |
mircea_popescu | Leon Humphreys remained adamant yesterday that his right to fight a champion nominated by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) was still valid under European human rights legislation. He said it would have been a "reasonable" way to settle the matter. | [11:15] |
mircea_popescu | nice. | [11:15] |
moiety | i don't think they were planning dropping off manuls | [11:15] |
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mircea_popescu | they were probably planning to show the raf it sucks. | [11:16] |
moiety | probably. the base mentioned, Leuchars, is closing too | [11:17] |
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moiety | what happened with the max keiser fight night thing | [11:21] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9043 @ 0.00095074 = 8.5975 BTC [-] {2} | [11:22] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, i don;t think the SOPS appreciate the seriousness of the problem. once people are actually willing to fight anyone you fucking name, to the death, your days are quite numbered. | [11:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ etc, | [11:24] |
ozbot | The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [11:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06778263 = 0.1356 BTC [+] {2} | [11:25] |
Naphex | ;;ident | [11:26] |
gribble | Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!~naphex@btcxchange.ro', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu | [11:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00095614 = 16.5412 BTC [+] {2} | [11:30] |
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mircea_popescu | Naphex cool. | [11:37] |
mircea_popescu | Naphex email. | [11:41] |
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mircea_popescu | !up CheckDavid | [11:50] |
assbot | Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes. | [11:50] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust assbot CheckDavid | [11:50] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CheckDavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheckDavid | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 12:52:24 2014 | [11:50] |
CheckDavid | How does it work here now mircea_popescu ? | [11:51] |
fluffypony | CheckDavid: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu | ^ | [11:52] |
CheckDavid | Why not on the topic? | [11:52] |
mircea_popescu | possibly because we prefer people ask | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise because it was never considered | [11:53] |
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CheckDavid | I see. | [11:53] |
CheckDavid | Glad I asked then. | [11:53] |
CheckDavid | I have 0 trust :( | [11:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00095232 = 3.714 BTC [-] | [11:54] |
mircea_popescu | you gotta get in the trustlist of someone assbot trusts | [11:54] |
CheckDavid | I am not doing much business in here or even trading a single satoshi around | [11:56] |
CheckDavid | So I don't know much ways on how to do that with begging | [11:56] |
CheckDavid | Without | [11:57] |
mircea_popescu | the idea is that if you don't trade you prolly don't need voice. | [11:57] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ < that's the philosophy involved. | [11:57] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [11:57] |
CheckDavid | Actually I'm doing business | [11:58] |
fluffypony | CheckDavid: go do some trades in -otc then? always good to have some historical ratings on the WoT | [11:58] |
CheckDavid | I will ask around for that | [11:58] |
fluffypony | there ya go :) | [11:59] |
CheckDavid | Such a hassle to authenticate with gribble on a mobile device | [11:59] |
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mircea_popescu | CheckDavid if you're doing business, then you're definitely doing business with someone here at some point, or with someone they know. | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | a 1 isn't so hard to get historically. | [11:59] |
CheckDavid | I see. I will get it | [12:00] |
mircea_popescu | i suspect the reason why good crypto is a hassle on smartphones is exactly what one'd expect. | [12:00] |
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CheckDavid | How do you map a reason to an expectation? | [12:01] |
CheckDavid | Your English is too advanced for me | [12:02] |
CheckDavid | lol | [12:02] |
mircea_popescu | ie, that it's not accidental, but deliberate, as part of a broader govt sponsored industry agreement to keep mobiles weak cryptographically | [12:02] |
fluffypony | goes back to the NSA convo from yesterday | [12:02] |
CheckDavid | Oh. NSA kinda stuff then rifht,? | [12:03] |
CheckDavid | I see | [12:03] |
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mircea_popescu | as teh observation goes, all nsa successes to date are social engineering, not mathematical. | [12:04] |
mircea_popescu | even if bounce would like us to believe they;'re smart, the record is actulaly that they're devious instead. | [12:04] |
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chetty | doesn't gubermint and devious mean the same thing? | [12:05] |
CheckDavid | Who needs to be smart when you can fool a genius? | [12:05] |
CheckDavid | Lol | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/23/unique-ax-uses-physics-to-make-wood-chopping-smarter-not-harder/ | [12:05] |
ozbot | Unique Ax Uses Physics to Make Wood Chopping Smarter, Not Harder | TheBlaze.com | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | check this shit out | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | that's the best looking fucking axe i've ever seen | [12:06] |
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CheckDavid | mircea_popescu: bunch of coolness in there | [12:10] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [12:10] |
CheckDavid | I was sent a proposal to represent a business in acquiring projects for them on a commission based rewards schedule. | [12:11] |
CheckDavid | It's startup in the it industry | [12:11] |
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davout | mircea_popescu: i recall visiting some old farm, and being shown tools that looked rudimentary, but were in fact perfectly balances as to minimize the strain on the farmer | [12:12] |
CheckDavid | But confused me is how the commissions are based on the profit, and not on the sales volume or revenue | [12:12] |
davout | s/balances/balanced/ | [12:12] |
mircea_popescu | CheckDavid hm ? | [12:12] |
mircea_popescu | davout indeed. | [12:12] |
CheckDavid | mircea_popescu: the proposed commissions on the draft are based on profit | [12:13] |
CheckDavid | Like. X% of the profit generated from my sale | [12:13] |
CheckDavid | I have never seen this | [12:13] |
punkman | that axe looks like it might be awkward when chopping horizontally | [12:14] |
chetty | sounds like a bad deal CheckDavid , company can just spend whatever of ads and exec salaries and you get squat | [12:15] |
CheckDavid | I know chetty . that's why I found it weird | [12:15] |
CheckDavid | Dissimulating profits is a pretty straightforward process | [12:16] |
fluffypony | CheckDavid: based on gross profit or net profit? | [12:16] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/1794160/ | [12:16] |
CheckDavid | It just says profit in the draft | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | punkman definitely. seems vertical. | [12:17] |
CheckDavid | But it's just a draft | [12:17] |
fluffypony | I mean, I can understand if there's a fixed CoS and they're calling (CoS - Sales) "profit" | [12:17] |
mircea_popescu | CheckDavid i dunno what this is about ?! | [12:17] |
CheckDavid | mircea_popescu: just a contract for sales rep that sets commissions to be based on profit instead of sales volume | [12:18] |
CheckDavid | I was just wondering if this is normal | [12:18] |
CheckDavid | Because I have never seen this kind of arrangement before | [12:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00095239 = 9.1906 BTC [+] | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | well... profit and sales volume correlate | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | so i guess it's just an arbitrary different comission % | [12:20] |
mircea_popescu | item sells for 10k, profit is 1k, make 1% of net sales or 10% of net profit, same deal, you make 100 bux per item | [12:20] |
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mircea_popescu | !up CheckDavid | [12:20] |
fluffypony | CheckDavid: there is actually some precedent - I have a very good friend who moved here from Sweden to sell industrial cleaning equipment/supplies. he knows the cost of the product, and dependent on the size of the sale he can offer a discount to the client. his comm is based on the "profit" in that it's (sales - cost of sales), so he won't offer a discount on small sales but might determine it worthwhile reducing his comm on a larger sale | [12:20] |
assbot | Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes. | [12:20] |
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mircea_popescu | yeah it's kinda how large deals work. industrial equipment is a perfect example. | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | rarely used in consumer/retail | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | anywya, if you're working for a start-up you want either equity or a salary. | [12:23] |
CheckDavid | mircea_popescu: yes. But it's for IT contracts. All contracts are different and have different details | [12:23] |
mircea_popescu | in NO case do you work for a startup on a comission basis wtf is this, the land of where they get shit for free ? | [12:23] |
CheckDavid | I see fluffypony . actually make sense | [12:24] |
CheckDavid | mircea_popescu: really? I don't see why not | [12:24] |
CheckDavid | It's sales after all | [12:24] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [12:24] |
mircea_popescu | it's building their equity. either they pay for it or you get a share of it. | [12:25] |
CheckDavid | I see. | [12:25] |
CheckDavid | Well. | [12:25] |
CheckDavid | The contacts I generate are supposed to generate life time commissions | [12:25] |
mircea_popescu | so this is why you get equity | [12:26] |
mircea_popescu | so that they DO generate lifetime comissions. | [12:26] |
CheckDavid | Interesting point | [12:26] |
fluffypony | yeah | [12:26] |
mircea_popescu | people either mean what they say or they lie to you. | [12:26] |
mircea_popescu | always very easy to find out which. just, need a little experience in business. | [12:26] |
fluffypony | otherwise after a year or two the company can "fold" and reopen to service all the old clients, cutting you out the loop | [12:27] |
mircea_popescu | "can". heh. | [12:27] |
CheckDavid | I see. | [12:27] |
CheckDavid | Though I was thinking about starting collaboration in a more informal manner. | [12:27] |
mircea_popescu | informal only works if you're either part of the core or part of a group that can squish them. | [12:28] |
fluffypony | there was a rental agency that had this awesome comm structure - find a tenant and you get half of their management fee for the lifetime of the tenant (they charge ~10% of the rent as a management fee) | [12:28] |
mircea_popescu | that's why founderds deals work informally, and VCs deals not so much. | [12:28] |
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CheckDavid | I see. | [12:28] |
CheckDavid | I am sure that works for you. | [12:28] |
CheckDavid | But maybe I'm not in your position | [12:29] |
CheckDavid | A position of experience and financial success | [12:29] |
fluffypony | they exploded, dominated the scene as everyone referred their friends and all the home owners wanted tenants through them | [12:29] |
fluffypony | fast forward 2 years and they "go bankrupt" and this new crowd that registered a business like a month ago "buys" all their existing contracts and databases and everything for $100 or something stupid | [12:29] |
CheckDavid | For lack of better words | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony happens all the damned time. i know like... two lawyers that ever successfully litigated the sort of shit | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | one of them's smoking hot too. | [12:29] |
fluffypony | someone eventually connects that the new company is owned by the other guy's brother-in-law...cue shitstorm of epic proportions, but they got away with it because laws. | [12:30] |
CheckDavid | I see | [12:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1002 @ 0.00095239 = 0.9543 BTC [+] | [12:32] |
CheckDavid | I gotta hustle though | [12:32] |
mircea_popescu | CheckDavid jus' sayin'. in the end you do what you gotta do, but always better if you know the score than if you don't. | [12:32] |
CheckDavid | The score? Isnt that only known in the end of the game? | [12:33] |
CheckDavid | I thought you were still telling me the rules of the game. | [12:33] |
CheckDavid | Haha. My total lack of knowledge of these expressions. | [12:33] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: yeah, but I think the legal framework in the EU in general is more mature...ZA law is Dutch-Roman with some British influence, but there's lots of stuff that has only come about more recently (eg. modern regulation of securities only happened with the Securities Services Act of 2004) | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu | anyone seen gloria ? | [12:36] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, it's a great film. | [12:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00095232 = 0.9999 BTC [-] | [12:39] |
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mircea_popescu | !up toddf | [12:40] |
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mircea_popescu | !up LeMarkz | [12:40] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/g/gloria-script-transcript-gena-rowlands.html | [12:41] |
ozbot | Gloria | [12:41] |
mircea_popescu | "Fuck! He don't know the score. He sees a dame like you and a guy like me. He don't know." | [12:41] |
mircea_popescu | said by a 6 yo puerto rican kid on the lam to a 50 yo retired blonde prostitute. | [12:41] |
toddf | so am i in a void or is any news or chatter about picostocks.com just nonexistent? ;-) | [12:42] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google picostocks site:log.bitcoin-assets.com | [12:42] |
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toddf | ok so even here, chatter about picostocks is .. dated | [12:44] |
jurov | http://www.xbiz.com/news/178172 orly | [12:45] |
ozbot | Chase Bank Slams the Door on More Porn Stars - XBIZ.com | [12:45] |
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mircea_popescu | toddf it's a scam. forget about it already, move on. | [12:46] |
toddf | mircea_popescu: picostocks + cointerra sure | [12:47] |
toddf | I've put some money in, and have already returned my investment plus, keeps on truckin, so .. 100th at least seems not to be a scam to me | [12:47] |
toddf | there are clearly bot based traders present, but how is that new vs other exchanges | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/threads/picostocks-100th-s-bitcoin-mine-100th.82106/#msg1495160 | [12:48] |
ozbot | [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] | Bitcointa.lk | [12:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06778368 = 0.3389 BTC [+] | [12:48] |
mircea_popescu | this is a poor argument. if you read the logs you'll see you're by no means singular in making that error. | [12:48] |
toddf | yes I've followed the thread, same content as on bitcointalk.org | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, it's the forum of record | [12:49] |
toddf | so "I made money, just curious to talk to others who are also there" is a bad argument? | [12:49] |
cazalla | toddf: shamefur dispray | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | (keeps everything, including the posts scamtalk.org mods try to hide) | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | toddf it is, yes. | [12:50] |
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mircea_popescu | it's an exact restatement of "driving faster than i can handle the car while drunk is safe, because i got home alright" | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | you will get fucked one day, and that day you will lose more than all your aggregate gains. | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | ask jurov, ask bugpowder, ask duffer ask what, dozens of people. | [12:51] |
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mircea_popescu | every single pirate investor "made money". until they didn't. | [12:51] |
toddf | hmm, guess I'll focus on refining my btc-e.com trading bot | [12:51] |
mircea_popescu | rithm is not voiced, so he can't say anything about thatg :D | [12:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06779999 = 0.339 BTC [+] | [12:53] |
toddf | if ppl not voiced wanna privchat me about picostocks fine. so .. I'll ensure I have net positive out and consinder continued income non reliable .. *shrug*. | [12:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06779999 = 0.678 BTC [+] {2} | [12:54] |
jurov | http://www.coindesk.com/jeff-garzik-announces-partnership-launch-bitcoin-satellites-space/ | [12:55] |
jurov | blockchain bombardment from orbit | [12:55] |
toddf | yeah, that was interesting news when i first read about it | [12:55] |
toddf | akin to broadcasting usenet news from orbit | [12:55] |
toddf | wonder when someone will skip the expense and simply start broadcasting bitcoin blocks via usenet .. which then can come to you .. from orbit .. | [12:56] |
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toddf | 'course not the nifty easy receiver mobile device and all that but hey, multiple paths mean more resiliancy right? | [12:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0678 = 0.5424 BTC [+] | [12:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00095232 = 4.9521 BTC [-] | [13:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6394 @ 0.00095257 = 6.0907 BTC [+] {3} | [13:11] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov twas here yest :D | [13:18] |
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Naphex | rainy day | [13:43] |
Naphex | ;/ | [13:43] |
jurov | hm, that's like 1000 lines ago | [13:44] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;seen ThickAsThieves | [13:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9054 @ 0.00095325 = 8.6307 BTC [+] | [14:17] |
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ThickAsThieves | good morn | [14:20] |
ThickAsThieves | so the neo software guys responded, you'll like this | [14:22] |
Anduck | neo as? | [14:22] |
fluffypony | Neo&Bee | [14:22] |
Anduck | what he responded? | [14:22] |
ThickAsThieves | read the logs | [14:22] |
fluffypony | the (former) software devs are still figuring things out | [14:22] |
Anduck | ThickAsThieves: no | [14:22] |
fluffypony | and ThickAsThieves asked them to come here and chat to us | [14:22] |
Anduck | will they come? | [14:23] |
Anduck | is there a good summary of that whole neo bee casE? | [14:23] |
ThickAsThieves | ... | [14:23] |
fluffypony | let's find out...back to you in the studio, ThickAsThieves | [14:23] |
Anduck | sorry | [14:23] |
Anduck | they give + to people with no news knowledge | [14:23] |
Anduck | x | [14:23] |
Anduck | D | [14:23] |
fluffypony | Anduck: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/ | [14:23] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;gettrust anduck | [14:23] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012 | [14:23] |
fluffypony | goot starting point | [14:23] |
fluffypony | *good | [14:23] |
Anduck | ok | [14:24] |
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Anduck | !up only | [14:24] |
assbot | Voicing only for 30 minutes. | [14:24] |
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Anduck | buwahhahahahw | [14:24] |
ThickAsThieves | anduck. what i am referring to has absolutely nothing to do with revelations about what happened to make Neo fall | [14:25] |
Anduck | alright | [14:25] |
ThickAsThieves | for the most part, that situation is now up to Danny and the authorities | [14:25] |
ThickAsThieves | "HI John, | [14:26] |
ThickAsThieves | thank you very much for your input and for pointing our a direction! It most certainly helps. | [14:26] |
ThickAsThieves | We will approach #bitcoin-assets and see how it goes. | [14:26] |
ThickAsThieves | We registered on bitangels.co and we asked Mike Hearn to be our technical advisor and he accepted. | [14:26] |
ThickAsThieves | Thanks much! | [14:26] |
ThickAsThieves | Michalis" | [14:26] |
fluffypony | l | [14:26] |
fluffypony | o | [14:26] |
fluffypony | l | [14:26] |
Anduck | btw | [14:26] |
Anduck | tldr neo bee CEO ran with coins, all others are innocent? | [14:26] |
ThickAsThieves | you could really benefit from understanding the world around you in its true form | [14:27] |
ThickAsThieves | rather than converting everything into a summary | [14:27] |
Anduck | true | [14:27] |
Anduck | but i am leaving in 2 mins | [14:27] |
Anduck | no time to read big papers | [14:27] |
ThickAsThieves | it can wait | [14:27] |
Anduck | true | [14:27] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/24/5646554/andy-warhols-lost-amiga-computer-art-photo-essay | [14:28] |
ozbot | Andy Warhol's Amiga computer art found 30 years later | The Verge | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves you have a mpex acct right ? | [14:29] |
ThickAsThieves | yes | [14:29] |
Anduck | lol | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | ok i got a business proposition for you | [14:29] |
ThickAsThieves | shoot | [14:29] |
ThickAsThieves | did you know that Amiga pixels were rectangles, not squares | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | it goes like this : the s.mpif is going to be reporting its assets monthly. meanwhile it will probably trade. there should be a mechanism to buy/sell shares to ensure the market stays liquid and more or less alligned to net value. so what i want to do is : | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | ima make you a s.mpif manager, give you 50 BTC , your job is to try and make a profit trading s.mpif of mpex. | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | you get a 10% cut of the results, report your trades monthly. | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | this is also good because it gives some anchor to the fund | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | (it's roughjly the equivalent of a normal ib liquidity clause) | [14:31] |
ThickAsThieves | i will have some questions, probly in private | [14:31] |
ThickAsThieves | been awake 10min also | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | take your time. | [14:31] |
ThickAsThieves | thanks | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | kinda planning to announce the management rooster today, you'd be the 5th. | [14:31] |
Anduck | what is mpif? | [14:32] |
Anduck | mircea popescus investment fund i assume | [14:32] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck tsk tsk not reading teh logs are we | [14:32] |
fluffypony | Anduck: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wunderbar-smpif/ | [14:32] |
Anduck | i never read logs if i am not hilighted | [14:32] |
ThickAsThieves | well, quit leaning on us to fill in your brain holes! | [14:32] |
fluffypony | kakobrekla: can you make assbot ping Anduck every day at a random time? :-P | [14:32] |
mircea_popescu | !down Anduck | [14:32] |
assbot | mircea_popescu, you can't do that to Anduck. | [14:32] |
mircea_popescu | tsk. | [14:32] |
Anduck | mircea_popescu: haha | [14:33] |
Anduck | off i go | [14:33] |
Anduck | -< | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | you get the point. | [14:33] |
davout | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135181.msg6366978#msg6366978 <<< lmao | [14:34] |
ozbot | MagicalTux? | [14:34] |
ThickAsThieves | mp you see my quoted email from Neo software guys? | [14:34] |
ThickAsThieves | it's like a dream | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | i didnt get to lulz yet, still working on you know, actual things :D | [14:35] |
ThickAsThieves | word | [14:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0009556 = 2.2457 BTC [+] | [14:36] |
fluffypony | davout: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2134 | [14:36] |
fluffypony | "No one will ever beat this guy's record." | [14:36] |
fluffypony | lawl | [14:36] |
davout | ;;gettrust MagicalTux | [14:37] |
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davout | ;;rate MagicalTux -10 | [14:38] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user MagicalTux has been recorded. | [14:38] |
davout | ;;rate mtgox -10 | [14:38] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user mtgox has been recorded. | [14:38] |
davout | now back to more productive endeavours | [14:38] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rated magicaltux | [14:39] |
gribble | You have not yet rated user magicaltux | [14:39] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [14:39] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate magicaltux -1 Overly large fuckwit. | [14:39] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user magicaltux has been recorded. | [14:39] |
davout | ;;rated jgarzik | [14:39] |
gribble | You have not yet rated user jgarzik | [14:39] |
davout | ;;gettrust jgarzik | [14:39] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user davout to user jgarzik: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=davout&dest=jgarzik | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jgarzik | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:35:30 2010 | [14:39] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;rate MagicalTux -10 took all my lulz away | [14:39] |
gribble | Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. | [14:39] |
fluffypony | lol - "If gox is solvent I'll buy you a Frappucino" | [14:39] |
ThickAsThieves | weird | [14:39] |
ThickAsThieves | i never logged out | [14:39] |
ThickAsThieves | gribble blinked? | [14:39] |
ThickAsThieves | i still haz voice tho | [14:40] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: was offline for a bit | [14:40] |
ThickAsThieves | hax | [14:40] |
davout | ;;rate jgarzik 3 dem satellites | [14:40] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user jgarzik has been recorded. | [14:40] |
davout | ;;rate jgarzik 3 dem satellites, dat bounty | [14:40] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jgarzik has changed from 3 to 3. | [14:40] |
davout | ;;gettrust ladybytes | [14:40] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user davout to user ladybytes: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=davout&dest=ladybytes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ladybytes | Rated since: never | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu | Al Gore asserted that it’s crucial for global philanthropists to impose “fertility management” on Africa. | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu | if you like your big penis you can keep your big penis. | [14:41] |
asciilifeform | snippetysnip | [14:42] |
davout | ;;rate justmoon 1 met IRL, nice guy | [14:43] |
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fluffypony | looking at the new TLDs that are available...I can get rs.guru | [14:43] |
fluffypony | lawl | [14:43] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: mp.ceo is still available | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu | i couldn't care less tbh | [14:44] |
davout | ;;rate molecular 1 met IRL, nice guy | [14:45] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user molecular has been recorded. | [14:45] |
ThickAsThieves | ceo is a domain tld? | [14:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00095222 = 9.3318 BTC [-] {2} | [14:46] |
asciilifeform | do we get a '.wtf' ? | [14:46] |
ThickAsThieves | or .dotdot | [14:46] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: yerp | [14:48] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: you can get tat.ventures | [14:49] |
fluffypony | .enterprises is also available | [14:49] |
ozbot | -.- | [14:49] |
ozbot | -.- | [14:49] |
ozbot | earn currently unavailable | [14:49] |
fluffypony | ozbot: I think I confused you | [14:49] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.52695644 = 4.7426 BTC [+] {5} | [14:50] |
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fluffypony | wealth consultant? | [14:50] |
jurov | in practice just salesman of "life insurance" | [14:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03199 = 0.16 BTC [-] | [14:51] |
fluffypony | ah ok | [14:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04150006 = 0.1245 BTC [-] {3} | [14:52] |
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mircea_popescu | blutjunge.verführerinnen ftw | [14:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.031988 = 0.128 BTC [-] | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i love how english berating and german beratung are cognates. | [14:53] |
asciilifeform | lol! | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | consultancy, in the germanz view, is "omfg you are so stupid i can not even believe how stupid you are" | [14:54] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.04111429 = 0.2878 BTC [-] {2} | [14:56] |
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thestringpuller | kakobrekla: what kind of bot is assbot? | [15:04] |
ThickAsThieves | a kind one | [15:04] |
thestringpuller | >:( unlike ThickAsThieves | [15:04] |
asciilifeform | 'tis a machine that threads arses. thought this was clear. | [15:05] |
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mircea_popescu | supybot i thought | [15:08] |
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asciilifeform | https://web.archive.org/web/20050309210742/http://www.informatics.sussex.ac.uk/users/adrianth/ices96/paper.html | [15:09] |
ozbot | #tex2html_wrap430# | [15:09] |
asciilifeform | ^ promised this to people at the conference | [15:09] |
kakobrekla | its not supy | [15:10] |
kakobrekla | i made it so its not anything | [15:10] |
kakobrekla | it was coded way before -assets tbh, then repurchased | [15:11] |
kakobrekla | eh | [15:11] |
kakobrekla | autofail | [15:11] |
kakobrekla | repurposed | [15:11] |
kakobrekla | interestingly it tries to fix the correct word. | [15:12] |
asciilifeform | phun phact. you can't buy a XC6216 now - for love or money. | [15:12] |
kakobrekla | anyway im off for a couple of hrs. later | [15:12] |
asciilifeform | (XC6216 was the one and only known fpga where random wiring was guaranteed -never- to release the magic smoke.) | [15:13] |
asciilifeform | it was also the only xilinx chip with 100% documented internals. | [15:15] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/the-wunderbar-smpif/ << updated, lots of stuff. including teh managers/pcs etc. | [15:18] |
ozbot | The wunderbar S.MPIF pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [15:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 461 @ 0.00095439 = 0.44 BTC [+] | [15:18] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: crew man #5 (TaT) sort of reminds me of my first exposure to MPEx. | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | how so ? | [15:25] |
asciilifeform | well, it was 'here, try to make profit, do what you like' | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | hehe | [15:25] |
asciilifeform | 'here's a chaingun, kid, have fun' | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | it's how you treat kids you'd like to see grow up into people. | [15:26] |
asciilifeform | i assume all five fronts are manually-driven, like soviet nuke subs ? | [15:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00095197 = 3.6651 BTC [-] | [15:28] |
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chetty | http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EYUaXpcFAArImWCAnJ5nPg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY4MTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2014-04-24T111324Z_1272560593_GM1EA4O15BV01_RTRMADP_3_JAPAN-USA-OBAMA.JPG | [15:31] |
asciilifeform | chetty: lol, mein Führer is permitted near a robot ?! | [15:32] |
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davout | mircea_popescu: mazeltov for S.MPIF ! | [15:33] |
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chetty | asciilifeform, he is bowing to it | [15:35] |
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asciilifeform | chetty: good time for a tragic 'bug', i'd say. | [15:36] |
chetty | awww | [15:36] |
mircea_popescu | davout :D | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform yes, which is why they have their own managers | [15:37] |
asciilifeform | in his place, i'd avoid standing next to programmable hydraulics. | [15:38] |
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jurov | did obama try google car yet? | [15:39] |
chetty | asciilifeform, nah he has best insurance policy - its called Biden | [15:39] |
asciilifeform | lol | [15:39] |
asciilifeform | http://cs320531.vk.me/v320531523/742f/5YlAkJjGgaA.jpg | [15:40] |
mircea_popescu | benkay sure. a lot of excellent application for homomorphisms in crypto, many of them empowered/exposed by bitcoin | [15:40] |
mircea_popescu | and the subsequent developments in finance. | [15:40] |
asciilifeform | homomorph? what'd i miss in the log? | [15:41] |
asciilifeform | damn | [15:41] |
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asciilifeform | benkay: "homomorphic or semi-homomorphic" encryption, where 3 parties each control << this is an entire science. see, for instance, Pascal Paillier's boojum. | [15:43] |
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mircea_popescu | whoa http://www.sogou.com/ | [15:46] |
mircea_popescu | apparently i'm huge in china | [15:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 82 @ 0.00455081 = 0.3732 BTC [-] {3} | [15:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00451371 = 0.1535 BTC [-] | [15:48] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2014#639568 <<< funny how fucking wrong he were :D | [15:53] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [15:53] |
mircea_popescu | i mean... not a single correct one at all. 0. zilch. nada. | [15:53] |
mircea_popescu | "i will take my prize in atc" the man says. | [15:54] |
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asciilifeform | now toast to the five sappers. may they never err. | [15:55] |
mircea_popescu | centanni | [15:56] |
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Naphex | woot. new servers got here :D | [15:58] |
Naphex | time to do some benchs | [15:58] |
Naphex | 2xE5-2640v2 - 4x8GB(RECC) - 8x256GB(SAM/SSD) - LSI9271-8i 2RU :D | [15:59] |
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fluffypony | nice | [16:00] |
asciilifeform | ;;later tell kakobrekla pcb folks? do they also pick'n'place, SMT? | [16:01] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [16:01] |
thestringpuller | asciilifeform: how bout a toast to true capitalism? | [16:01] |
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Naphex | 2xE5-2620v2 - 4x8GB(RECC) - 2x600GB(ST/SAS) - LSi9260-4i 1RU | [16:02] |
Naphex | for the smallies | [16:02] |
Naphex | :D | [16:02] |
mircea_popescu | chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bl_IjnqCUAELlUW.png | [16:04] |
Naphex | haha | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bl_B5p6CcAAEBhd.png | [16:06] |
mircea_popescu | this dude | [16:06] |
mircea_popescu | why is he not in the wot is what i wanna know. clearly he's seeking the approval of the people that make the world turn | [16:06] |
Naphex | http://gfycat.com/ElderlyAptCorydorascatfish - i loled hard :)) | [16:07] |
ozbot | You got goxed - Gfycat | [16:07] |
mircea_popescu | hey, DRKP or KDPR or DERP or wtf it's called secret services : drop the man a memo wtf. | [16:07] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52194701 = 1.0439 BTC [-] {2} | [16:08] |
fluffypony | ;;rate kimjongun 1 our glorious leader | [16:08] |
gribble | Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. | [16:08] |
fluffypony | :( | [16:08] |
asciilifeform | if the kid can sign up for 'warcraft', why not wot ? | [16:09] |
mircea_popescu | cause the idjits at his ss ain't doin' their job. | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | you hear me ? put down the white powder and get to work, pancakefaces! | [16:10] |
fluffypony | pankkakefaces? | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | well they're not french | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | "1 in 7 crimes committed in New York City now involves an Apple product being stolen." | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | APPLE TO BE BANNED BY USG | [16:11] |
davout | betar ban ny | [16:17] |
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HeySteve | looks like some gox coins went into maidsafe | [16:19] |
HeySteve | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.msg6370852#msg6370852 | [16:19] |
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HeySteve | how you guys all doing today? | [16:20] |
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fluffypony | well, it it's good enough for Karpeles, it's good enough for me | [16:27] |
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asciilifeform | s/banned/mandatory | [16:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00095084 = 3.2329 BTC [-] | [16:31] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user asciilifeform has been recorded. | [16:36] |
fluffypony | Naphex: opinion on Voxility srl? | [16:36] |
chetty | http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.033601 | [16:36] |
ozbot | Phys. Rev. Lett. 111, 033601 (2013) - Stopped Light and Image Storage by Electromagnetically Induced | [16:36] |
asciilifeform | chetty: next thing we know, we're using delay-line storage again. | [16:37] |
asciilifeform | and it's 1958 again. | [16:37] |
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chetty | asciilifeform, sometimes I think that would be an improvement | [16:39] |
Naphex | fluffypony: never used them. but i'n genereal i wouldn't run bitcoin services on anything else then dedicated owned servers :P | [16:39] |
fluffypony | Naphex: I'm not, just a friend using them for his ownCloud data (1gbps colocated box) | [16:40] |
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asciilifeform | ;;rate hanbot 1 had the honour of meeting this user in person. | [16:41] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user hanbot has been recorded. | [16:41] |
Naphex | i'm not a fan of the cloud | [16:42] |
Naphex | i still prefer having my own serves(bought hardware), coloc'd at industrial datacenters | [16:42] |
Naphex | where you get an account manager that you know | [16:42] |
Naphex | :P | [16:42] |
fluffypony | Naphex: http://owncloud.org - it's just a FOSS implementation of a Google Drive/DropBox style service, so you have to host your own server to run it | [16:43] |
asciilifeform | that's like building a replica of public toilet in your house. | [16:43] |
asciilifeform | sure, you can... but why | [16:43] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC | [16:44] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: if you're a company that doesn't want to trust your data to DropBox for sensitivity reasons, but still need to have similar functionality, it's great | [16:44] |
fluffypony | not talking about über-paranoid data, but spreadsheets and docs and the like | [16:44] |
asciilifeform | if you're inside friendly walls, even 'nfs' ought to suffice | [16:46] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded. | [16:46] |
Naphex | off home. later | [16:46] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mike_c has been recorded. | [16:47] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: agreed, but this is for contractors and staff scattered all over the place; all ownCloud comm is over an https api | [16:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC | [16:48] |
fluffypony | the dude looking at the MaidSafe investments: "I've traced back the BTC Guild admin too. There're big guys involved in this scam." | [16:49] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12581 @ 0.00095187 = 11.9755 BTC [+] | [16:51] |
fluffypony | ;;later tell bitcoinpete oh look, surprise surprise, stolen mtgox coins have been invested in MaidSafe - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.msg6370815#msg6370815 | [16:51] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [16:51] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kakobrekla has been recorded. | [16:53] |
HeySteve | this rickety tincan s'effrican internet can go to the devil | [16:53] |
HeySteve | learnt to tolerate most of it the time but writing breaking news is not the time for this crap | [16:53] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: run a bouncer off a VPS or something, then you won't miss anything | [16:54] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: MTN's fibre-to-the-home stuff is coming later this year | [16:54] |
HeySteve | well there's the log, but it's that I'm trying to verify the story by searching about the blockchain and forum | [16:54] |
fluffypony | should be a lot more stable than DSL | [16:54] |
HeySteve | fluffypony, yeah just heard, praise jebus | [16:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00095084 = 3.0427 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
bounce | pfft. some adsl is perfectly stable. | [16:55] |
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fluffypony | bounce: depends on your distance to the MSAN here | [16:56] |
fluffypony | most of our phone lines are still on wooden poles | [16:56] |
fluffypony | with a dangly piece of wire running precariously from your roof to the pole | [16:57] |
HeySteve | eh, was just on roof with pole trying to connect to WUG but trees seem to have firmly occluded signals | [16:57] |
HeySteve | not my year for comms | [16:58] |
HeySteve | sure I could've got thru that to someone with better net, despite their "T&Cs" | [16:58] |
HeySteve | http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/breaking-mt-gox-maidsafe-gox-coins-flowing-maidsafe-ipo/2014/04/24 | [17:00] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: you linked to blockchain.info/ru/tags which is russian | [17:02] |
HeySteve | damn | [17:03] |
HeySteve | thanks man | [17:03] |
HeySteve | just saw it was in english | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | the hell's 'maidsafe' | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | defence against 'evil maid attack' ? | [17:04] |
davout | mircea_popescu: hanbot == mpoe-pr i presume? | [17:04] |
HeySteve | I ain't 100% sure myself but basically decentralised interwebs | [17:04] |
HeySteve | a bit like Freenet I think | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | if like freenet, it needs coin why? | [17:05] |
HeySteve | seemed nice from the PR I guess? then there was some associated bullshit with Mastercoin pay-ins to get MaidSafe coins - I didn't really follow the story tho | [17:05] |
HeySteve | so it seems scammy and now Karpeles is jumping in to the scam pool | [17:05] |
HeySteve | apparently | [17:05] |
davout | ;;rate hanbot 1 delivered a fuckton of worthy smackdowns | [17:06] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user hanbot has been recorded. | [17:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00470969 = 0.3485 BTC [+] {2} | [17:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00095084 = 4.2788 BTC [-] | [17:08] |
ThickAsThieves | welcome hanbot! | [17:08] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 281 @ 0.00471 = 1.3235 BTC [+] | [17:09] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: it's basically exactly like Freenet except for some reason they "need" $3.5 mil to write the software and launch | [17:10] |
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HeySteve | fluffypony where did you find that quote from the guy looking into Maidsafe? | [17:12] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: on the thread | [17:12] |
fluffypony | lemme find it | [17:12] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579797.msg6372186#msg6372186 | [17:12] |
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asciilifeform | ;;rate Oleanie 1 live human! | [17:15] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Oleanie has been recorded. | [17:15] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 800 @ 0.14 = 112 BTC | [17:16] |
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HeySteve | thanks | [17:17] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC | [17:20] |
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jurov | you're welcome. coinbr customer or? | [17:25] |
fluffypony | jurov: [16:04:49] <+davout> mircea_popescu: hanbot == mpoe-pr i presume? | [17:25] |
asciilifeform | yes | [17:25] |
jurov | oh :) | [17:25] |
asciilifeform | fluffypony: they "need" $3.5 mil << one could build a... submarine. for this | [17:26] |
bounce | and then you have a submarine. then what? | [17:26] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: so going back to your bitcoin-undersea-nodes idea;) | [17:26] |
asciilifeform | bounce: unterseeminer | [17:26] |
fluffypony | ^^ | [17:26] |
asciilifeform | just example. | [17:27] |
ThickAsThieves | the pinodecchio would need to be located in places deemed unfishable | [17:27] |
jurov | how would they broadcast? ultrasound? or they'll automatically seek and tap fiber? | [17:27] |
asciilifeform | ;;google SOFAR | [17:27] |
gribble | Sofar Sounds: |
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bounce | maybe cheaper to get a 2nd hand sea platform or something | [17:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00095187 = 8.8048 BTC [+] | [17:27] |
asciilifeform | bounce: platform - psh. the whole point is to put them where nosy parkers can't get at them | [17:28] |
asciilifeform | or, when they do, barometer triggers detonator | [17:28] |
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bounce | parkers? but wouldn't a cold war bunker be cheaper then? | [17:29] |
asciilifeform | bounce: not if you want 10,000 of them | [17:29] |
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fluffypony | if anyone wants me to put them down as a CoinBr referral...first to give me their invitation code gets it | [17:29] |
asciilifeform | consider the cost of sailing to just one precisely-specified coordinate pair in the deep sea | [17:30] |
bounce | that's 3.5e11 dollahs. maybe a little on the spendy side. | [17:30] |
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bounce | oh, 3.5e10, my bad. | [17:31] |
asciilifeform | point was, if the only object is to put machines in physically-inaccessible places, rather than cover the planet with radio, the sea is a more appropriate place than orbit. | [17:31] |
bounce | do you need mobility? access? | [17:31] |
asciilifeform | no mobility | [17:31] |
asciilifeform | no repair | [17:31] |
asciilifeform | just ampoules of inconel alloy, straddling the thermocline. | [17:32] |
asciilifeform | with some very simplish silicon inside. | [17:32] |
bounce | then concrete caissons might be more appropriate. | [17:32] |
asciilifeform | 1km down? | [17:32] |
asciilifeform | lol | [17:32] |
bounce | why not? just thicken them up a bit. perhaps fill with cooling liquid if pressure becomes a problem. no need for air inside. | [17:33] |
asciilifeform | no need for caissons. plain anchors would suffice. | [17:34] |
ThickAsThieves | fluffypony Q9gPSuUvYS | [17:34] |
fluffypony | oh there we go | [17:34] |
fluffypony | just in time | [17:35] |
bounce | you're trying to play a numbers game. why the spendy alloys when something stupid like concrete would do? | [17:35] |
jurov | saltwater breaks down concrete | [17:35] |
jurov | or at least permeates | [17:36] |
jurov | you'd like your payload dry, i suppose | [17:36] |
bounce | plastic liner, perhaps mineral oil instead of air for a filler | [17:39] |
bounce | entirely underwater appears to be less of a problem than half-submerged | [17:40] |
bounce | http://www.concreteconstruction.net/concrete-construction/salt-water-concrete.aspx | [17:42] |
ozbot | Salt-water Concrete - Concrete Construction | [17:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03249999 = 0.13 BTC [+] {2} | [17:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0435 = 0.261 BTC [+] {2} | [17:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0325 = 0.13 BTC [+] {2} | [17:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.0742218 = 0.4453 BTC [-] | [17:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19659 @ 0.00095061 = 18.688 BTC [-] {4} | [17:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24041 @ 0.00094938 = 22.824 BTC [-] {2} | [17:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 850 @ 0.14 = 119 BTC | [18:01] |
fluffypony | crumbs, so someone suggested returning the mtgox coins sent to MaidSafe to the sender - so Dan Larimer from BitShares says: "Sending them back to the thief? That makes no sense. They should either be sent to the bankruptcy court, destroyed as dividends to bitcoin holders, or used for development of maidsafe... the only thing that must not happen is the issuance of Safecoin to the thief." | [18:02] |
fluffypony | meanwhile there are 6 hops between the "mtgox" address and the ScamSafe address, any of which could be an exchange or a tumbler | [18:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9949 @ 0.00095187 = 9.4702 BTC [+] | [18:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00094924 = 13.3843 BTC [-] {2} | [18:13] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.032948 = 0.1977 BTC [+] | [18:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-] | [18:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0415 = 0.2075 BTC [-] | [18:15] |
mike_c | kakobrekla feature request: it would be nice to have yes/no bets confirmed/weighted sum in the BB json. it can be calculated from the bets, so not high priority, but if you're bored :) | [18:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-] | [18:16] |
ThickAsThieves | i have additional request, a "scroll to bottom" button on the log | [18:17] |
ThickAsThieves | mostly for mobile | [18:18] |
mike_c | to avoid having to press the 'end' key? | [18:18] |
mike_c | ah | [18:18] |
ThickAsThieves | unless there is some magical stroke in android? | [18:18] |
mike_c | not that i know of | [18:18] |
jurov | yes, for tables it's nice too. i had to install some obscure threefinger dolphin plugin | [18:18] |
jurov | for "scroll to end" | [18:19] |
mike_c | and if you're in there, small bug report: weight_current is an int, but weight_end is a string. | [18:28] |
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ThickAsThieves | apparently i know a guy that knows a guy here: https://www.atlasats.com/about | [18:44] |
ThickAsThieves | well, | [18:44] |
ThickAsThieves | https://www.atlasats.com | [18:44] |
ThickAsThieves | seems the offer options | [18:44] |
ThickAsThieves | they | [18:44] |
mike_c | multi-tiered multi-firewall. sounds secure! | [18:45] |
ThickAsThieves | ^0^ | [18:46] |
benkay | jurov that porn star bank thing is just unreal | [18:48] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/24/voicemail_still_easy_to_hack/ | [18:49] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves | [18:51] |
fluffypony | those are the guys that are partnering with that "National Stock Exchange" crowd? | [18:51] |
fluffypony | yes looks like they are | [18:52] |
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benkay | mircea_popescu: regarding the emacs thing, it's just a bit of lisp to make working with gribble and assbot a little more pleasant. | [18:53] |
benkay | ThickAsThieves re neo hackers, what'd mircea_popescu say? they're looking for incompetent leadership? | [18:58] |
fluffypony | http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/ | [19:01] |
benkay | who is hanbot ? | [19:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.55993150 BTC to 7`105 shares, 36030 satoshi per share | [19:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1170 @ 0.00095187 = 1.1137 BTC [+] | [19:02] |
benkay | hanbot, who are you? | [19:02] |
benkay | ;;gettrust hanbot | [19:02] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask hanbot!~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot. Trust relationship from user benkay to user hanbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=hanbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hanbot | Rated since: Wed Dec 11 14:42:14 2013 | [19:02] |
asciilifeform | benkay: hanbot aka mpoepr | [19:02] |
jurov | ThickAsThieves: did you publish the email somewhere? | [19:03] |
benkay | was hoping. nice to have you. | [19:03] |
benkay | ;;rate hanbot 1 | [19:03] |
gribble | Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. | [19:03] |
benkay | wat | [19:03] |
benkay | is there an ident timeout? | [19:03] |
benkay | ;;eauth benkay | [19:04] |
gribble | Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@2600:4402:c002:3::854:fb5e. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA | [19:04] |
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benkay | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b6805062a69d88d6bbd941cb26ed5f37f08141da4d583b9f9ce7e73e | [19:04] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA | [19:04] |
ThickAsThieves | <+benkay> ThickAsThieves re neo hackers, what'd mircea_popescu say? they're looking for incompetent leadership? /// wow, good call | [19:04] |
benkay | ;;rate hanbot 1 | [19:04] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user hanbot has been recorded. | [19:04] |
benkay | still curious about timeout | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | yes jurov the latest email says: HI John, | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | thank you very much for your input and for pointing our a direction! It most certainly helps. | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | We will approach #bitcoin-assets and see how it goes. | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | We registered on bitangels.co and we asked Mike Hearn to be our technical advisor and he accepted. | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | Thanks much! | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | Michalis | [19:05] |
benkay | ;;unrate fluffypony | [19:05] |
gribble | Error: You have not given this nick a rating previously. | [19:05] |
benkay | ;;unrate mrstickball | [19:05] |
gribble | Successfully removed your rating for mrstickball. | [19:05] |
benkay | ;;unrate cgcardona_ | [19:06] |
gribble | Successfully removed your rating for cgcardona_. | [19:06] |
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benkay | ;;unrate dignork | [19:06] |
gribble | Successfully removed your rating for dignork. | [19:06] |
benkay | ;;unrate TestingUnoDosTres | [19:06] |
gribble | Error: The target nick does not exist in the database. | [19:06] |
benkay | ;;unrate TestingUnoDosTre | [19:07] |
gribble | Successfully removed your rating for TestingUnoDosTre. | [19:07] |
benkay | mas bueno. | [19:07] |
ThickAsThieves | jurov otherwise i'll leave it to them to present a more elaborate document of their plan | [19:07] |
fluffypony | benkay: mass unrates? | [19:08] |
ThickAsThieves | looks like rates he gave for +m purposes | [19:09] |
benkay | [19:09] | |
benkay | fluffypony, ThickAsThieves i'm testing a scarcity hunch | [19:10] |
benkay | i'll let you know how it goes in a decade. | [19:10] |
fluffypony | benkay: when the wind blows that piece of wire hits a tree and our Internet drops | [19:10] |
asciilifeform | benkay: the romanian internet situation was dire << don't know about the rest of Ro, but in Timis. there were fiber bundles as thick as a man's neck, everywhere. | [19:10] |
fluffypony | and we have reboot the router to reconnect | [19:10] |
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ThickAsThieves | "At ZeroBlock, we encourage all exchanges in the bitcoin community to adopt FIX protocol, if they haven’t already. " | [19:11] |
ThickAsThieves | mpex better get with teh programz! | [19:11] |
ThickAsThieves | https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/04/24/zeroblock-release-fix-api/ | [19:11] |
ozbot | Zeroblock Releases FIX API Spec for Bitcoin Trading | Blockchain Blog | [19:11] |
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benkay | asciilifeform: mircea_popescu posted a picture a few months back of the amusing repair job done on the wire into his house/ | [19:12] |
asciilifeform | i think it was a plant of his, rather than house | [19:13] |
dexX7 | ;;later tell fluffypony re: "Blockchain.info still have to approve tags based on the reference material" -> http://canibuildasitehandlingotherpeoplesmoney.com/b.html | [19:13] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [19:13] |
benkay | house, plant. employees, slaves... | [19:14] |
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fluffypony | dexX7: LOL | [19:14] |
fluffypony | admittedly their approval process isn't much of a process | [19:15] |
fluffypony | "ctrl+f...ok cool approve" | [19:15] |
benkay | [19:17] | |
dexX7 | hehe yup, something like that | [19:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25030 @ 0.0009517 = 23.8211 BTC [-] {2} | [19:17] |
dexX7 | it's pretty much worthless related to verification, e.g. https://blockchain.info/address/1111111111111111111114oLvT2 | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform> s/banned/mandatory << interestingly enough, these two are practically the same thing. | [19:19] |
asciilifeform | 'all which is not forbidden is compulsory' | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | Naphex where are you hosting, tesari's magical oradea dc ? | [19:20] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 223 @ 0.00084219 = 0.1878 BTC {2} | [19:21] |
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Naphex | mircea_popescu: gts telecom | [19:24] |
Naphex | bucharest | [19:24] |
Naphex | deficated locked down racks | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | [19:25] | |
Naphex | highly recommend it | [19:25] |
benkay | defecated racks?! | [19:25] |
benkay | now with poop security. | [19:25] |
asciilifeform | dangly piece of wire running precariously from your roof to the pole << exactly what i have here | [19:26] |
Naphex | benkay: hehe sorry ben, using phone | [19:26] |
Naphex | in bed and laizy :) | [19:26] |
benkay | no apologies necessary. | [19:26] |
asciilifeform | underground comms - expensive | [19:26] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: FIX is quite an interesting, old (early 90's) protocol that is basically pipe-char separated key-values (key is always numeric and based on a predefined list), and you literally dump the ASCII over a TCP session | [19:26] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: slides - http://www.slideshare.net/aiQUANT/fix-protocol-overview-1697394 | [19:26] |
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Naphex | fix sucks | [19:27] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: when we were still in Cape Town it had all been replaced with underground in our area, so it was dangly piece of wire straight into plastic trunking at the curb | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | [19:27] | |
Naphex | but i wrote a interface for it just in case :p | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | [19:28] | |
fluffypony | Naphex: it's significantly faster for HFT than a RESTful API :) | [19:28] |
Naphex | for sure | [19:28] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: martian? | [19:28] |
fluffypony | Naphex: I'm impressed you're ready to support it, you should go tell Blockchain that you're the first in the world to do so :-P | [19:29] |
fluffypony | Naphex: https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/04/24/zeroblock-release-fix-api/ | [19:29] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform venusian! | [19:29] |
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asciilifeform | lol | [19:29] |
Naphex | will deff integrate with rtbtc | [19:30] |
Naphex | zeroblock | [19:30] |
mircea_popescu | [19:30] | |
mircea_popescu | missing the point that it's small and community-negative FOR FUCKING REASONS | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | because that's what the would-be smart idiots not in here do : they misinterpret and misread my designs. | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | rather luciferic. | [19:31] |
fluffypony | I don't understand...maidsafe's trying to do a bitbet? | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | the entire " They should either be sent to the bankruptcy court, destroyed as dividends to bitcoin holders, ~or used for development of maidsafe~..." thing | [19:32] |
fluffypony | oh Danny boy's quote, tks, have context nao | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves> <+benkay> ThickAsThieves re neo hackers << lol i actually said EXACTLY that. | [19:33] |
ThickAsThieves | so maidsafe wants to moderate what color money itll accept now? | [19:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4642 @ 0.00095176 = 4.4181 BTC [+] | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | [19:34] | |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: yerz...hence this post: http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/ | [19:34] |
ThickAsThieves | cuz taking on celebrity bitcoin advisers has worked so well so far | [19:34] |
ThickAsThieves | your blog is pretty | [19:35] |
mircea_popescu | [19:35] | |
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Naphex | mircea_popescu: former rtbtc | [19:35] |
mircea_popescu | !up dooglus | [19:35] |
assbot | Voicing dooglus for 30 minutes. | [19:35] |
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mircea_popescu | dooglus you know how to up yourself ? | [19:36] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: tks, it's jekyll, which generates static html from markdown basically, and uses this jekyll theme: https://github.com/caarlos0/up | [19:36] |
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mircea_popescu | it WAS a great beast. no longer very useful other than an old codger who once ruled his slice of the world, | [19:37] |
mircea_popescu | to learn from. | [19:37] |
Naphex | thq thq | [19:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9285 @ 0.00095453 = 8.8628 BTC [+] {2} | [19:37] |
Naphex | severs rock too, should carry lots | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | !up efalken | [19:38] |
assbot | Voicing efalken for 30 minutes. | [19:38] |
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mircea_popescu | Hello! | [19:38] |
ThickAsThieves | if anyone is feeling like a cringe: http://bitshares.org/ | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | everyone : efalken is the guy who wrote the piece about mimics we read earlier | [19:39] |
ThickAsThieves | efalken has seen the forums yet? :) | [19:40] |
mircea_popescu | lol. i'm trying to argue this angle where bitcoin is for intelligent life forms. | [19:40] |
fluffypony | REIMAGINE EVERYTHING | [19:40] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;us thq | [19:41] |
gribble | Error: "us" is not a valid command. | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ud thq | [19:41] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=THQ | Jun 24, 2007 ... THQ. abreviation for "team hit and quit" one guy dates a girl, fucks her, dumps her , and then his friend does the same. Me and my best friend ... | [19:41] |
ozbot | Urban Dictionary: THQ | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | Naphex srsly ? | [19:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16040 @ 0.0009564 = 15.3407 BTC [+] {3} | [19:42] |
Naphex | Naphex: seriously what?:o | [19:42] |
Naphex | damn phone, sec let me move | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | phones are so useful :D | [19:43] |
benkay | mircea_popescu: you starve me of my due credit oh bitlord | [19:43] |
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benkay | welcome efalken | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | benkay what'd i do ? | [19:43] |
benkay | i suppose anyone can stitch the falken links together | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile from the sad news department, what'll be the jd s.mpif investment stands at 49.99508744 | [19:44] |
benkay | BUT I CRAVE APPROVAL | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | we're already in the red ;/ | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | benkay wait wait be explicit | [19:44] |
jurov | should have invested in coinroll | [19:45] |
asciilifeform | since i've been living under a rock, i gotta ask - is jd just sd with new fuel rods? | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform it's sd done by a better guy, with a better model. | [19:45] |
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benkay | mircea_popescu: i believe i brought the mimicry post to everyone's attention. | [19:45] |
benkay | but anyways. | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | benkay so you did! | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone proposes we devoice you i'll make sure to mention it, how about that ? :D | [19:46] |
benkay | whatever irrelevant. the joke was actually about whiny young americans. | [19:46] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: take the 0.00491256 difference out of my Trilema credits | [19:46] |
fluffypony | :-P | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | i'll be all like, "naw man, who;s gonna bring us the good mimes anymoar" | [19:46] |
benkay | har if i'm up for devoicing the sybils've won and i better skeedaddle anyways. | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | interesting how that works. | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | efalken to speak you type in the lower bar and hit enter | [19:47] |
jurov | !up mjr_ | [19:48] |
assbot | Voicing mjr_ for 30 minutes. | [19:48] |
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mircea_popescu | !up tris | [19:48] |
assbot | Voicing tris for 30 minutes. | [19:48] |
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fluffypony | tris: every time I see your host I think you're from Etherium and have come to convince me to "invest" | [19:48] |
ThickAsThieves | that would be lovely | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | isn't it ethereum ? | [19:49] |
ThickAsThieves | vitalik should come for a visit | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | so tell him. | [19:49] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: ah yes, I can never remember | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | the nefarious influence of mp : ThickAsThieves wants to ask me q's in private, ends up making a new blog to publish the results on. | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | basically... i'm the denudificator. | [19:51] |
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asciilifeform | verführer ? | [19:52] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: your apparatus is losing umlauts again. | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | isn't that a demon ? | [19:53] |
asciilifeform | 'seducer' (leader-astray) | [19:53] |
asciilifeform | you taught us the word today | [19:53] |
mircea_popescu | zersetzungszelle verführer! | [19:54] |
benkay | ;;seen randomcat | [19:54] |
gribble | I have not seen randomcat. | [19:54] |
benkay | ;;seen random_cat | [19:54] |
gribble | random_cat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 6 days, 12 hours, 3 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: |
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benkay | !up random_cat_ | [19:54] |
assbot | Voicing random_cat_ for 30 minutes. | [19:54] |
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benkay | hey random_cat_ | [19:54] |
benkay | lol 3 pings. ideally that'll get someone's attention. | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | !jd | [19:55] |
assbot | Just-Dice stat: 16297 BTC profit, 35.9k BTC invested, 1092.27 mio bets, 5.20 mio BTC wagered | [19:55] |
asciilifeform | where's tat's blog ? | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | cooking. | [19:56] |
Naphex | mircea_popescu: q, if user wants to change gpg key. req gpgauth. if lost only real-life iding process will recover | [19:56] |
Naphex | sounds right? | [19:56] |
Naphex | IDing | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | it's how nanotube runs the wot. | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | probably should include proeminent warnings to ppls. | [19:56] |
asciilifeform | wait he forgives lost keys ?!?!? | [19:56] |
jurov | http://mpex.coinbr.com/faq.html#24 < naphex | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform if you beg him. | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | and he knows you. | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | maybe. | [19:56] |
jurov | oh he meant wot | [19:57] |
Naphex | thx jurov | [19:57] |
asciilifeform | lost key, lost soul | [19:57] |
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Naphex | there are clients who go and wait by the atmi | [19:58] |
Naphex | after selling their btc | [19:59] |
Naphex | without hitting withdraw. then they call mad | [19:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06778 = 0.2711 BTC [-] | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | i wouldn't touch the romanian derpage, myself. | [19:59] |
Naphex | or others who just fill the deposit form | [19:59] |
Naphex | and wait for us to withdraw money from their account | [20:00] |
Naphex | :) | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | should just ship these fellows over to obama | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | i miss old style prisoner exchange things. "give me these guys that belong to us, you can have these twerps that'll prolly fit there better" | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | then one rainy night in berlin... | [20:01] |
asciilifeform | Glienicke Brücke | [20:02] |
Naphex | :)) | [20:02] |
asciilifeform | unrelated: | [20:02] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/e8MOim6 | [20:02] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [20:02] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: ^ what are these | [20:03] |
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asciilifeform | zaporozhets? | [20:03] |
Naphex | that a lada? :p | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | mnah. | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | that's a dacia 1310 | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | engine (2 cycle) is in the... back. | [20:03] |
asciilifeform | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/ZAZ-968_front.jpg | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | wait wrong | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | dacia 1100 | [20:04] |
asciilifeform | (zaporozhets. my folks had one. very similar looking) | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | (bulgarrenault 8) | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/embed/XPR84AGLw_M << 1950s advert. | [20:05] |
ozbot | RECLAMA COMUNISTA dacia 1100 - YouTube | [20:05] |
Naphex | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPR84AGLw_M la start! | [20:05] |
ozbot | RECLAMA COMUNISTA dacia 1100 - YouTube | [20:05] |
Naphex | omg | [20:05] |
Naphex | :(( | [20:05] |
Naphex | MD still talks like that:] | [20:06] |
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mircea_popescu | 5/hour. bath paint. | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | 46cp, | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | Naphex md ? | [20:07] |
Naphex | moldova | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | a | [20:07] |
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asciilifeform | speaking of such ads, | [20:08] |
asciilifeform | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMluSU6Frw | [20:08] |
ozbot | Tatra 603 ad - YouTube | [20:08] |
dooglus | hi guys | [20:08] |
jurov | welcome dooglus | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | hey dooglus | [20:08] |
jurov | ;;ident dooglus | [20:08] |
gribble | Nick 'dooglus', with hostmask 'dooglus!~biufter@unaffiliated/dooglus', is identified as user 'dooglus', with GPG key id 4BE6A010492A358E, key fingerprint 258EAE7C26B1F2EBCFA180C04BE6A010492A358E, and bitcoin address 1Doog7asLrYah3yeUppBVj8nUYnFkmXm2N | [20:08] |
dooglus | I noticed you had voiced me for 30 minutes about 31 minutes after it happened | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, you id with gribble, you pm assbot !up and you're good. | [20:09] |
dooglus | assbot ignores 'help' - but google told me about !up | [20:09] |
dooglus | well, I did all that - or I wouldn't be talking now | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla mebbe assbot should reply to help | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | dooglus hehe yeah | [20:10] |
benkay | would it be a terrible idea to allow people to request voice in chan via pm once every so many minutes? | [20:10] |
benkay | via pm to assbot | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform btw what's the tatra truck thing ? god i loved those | [20:11] |
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asciilifeform | http://www.tatratrucks.com ? | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | benkay like, once every half hour someone (anyone) can pm assbot "!plz" and assbot will dump in chan "Anyone wanna !up X?" | [20:11] |
asciilifeform | still in business, it seems | [20:12] |
dooglus | would it be useful if I made the S.MPIF Just-Dice account balance visible to the public? | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | dooglus it can't hurt anything. you know which it is ? | [20:12] |
dooglus | I've no idea | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | sec | [20:12] |
benkay | mircea_popescu: that's exactly it. | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | 700458 | [20:13] |
dooglus | thanks | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | holy shit you've had a ton of new accts huh | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | this can't be legitimate, you got spammed ? | [20:13] |
mike_c | now we can watch and see if that account is betting with pif money too :) | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | lol i don't see how it could, but yeah | [20:13] |
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mike_c | jd creates a new account whenever someone not-cookied visits JD | [20:14] |
* | mircea_popescu ponders whether his 3 digit jd acct is worth money :D | [20:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6468 @ 0.00094923 = 6.1396 BTC [-] | [20:14] |
Duffer1 | mp ask nokawa he might be interested :P | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform was a particular type of them. ro military used them extensively. | [20:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4889 @ 0.00094923 = 4.6408 BTC [-] | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | Tatra 813 turns out. | [20:16] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: worked on them? | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | me ? no, i was like 5. | [20:16] |
asciilifeform | lol | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | but they were awesome. | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | and bs, you could never find models. only models of these other shitty trucks | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | it scarred my childhood i tell you. | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | 8x8 drive, that thing. | [20:17] |
asciilifeform | could run on kerosene! neat | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | it ran on toluene, | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | or whatever else. | [20:17] |
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mircea_popescu | !up justusranvier | [20:19] |
assbot | Voicing justusranvier for 30 minutes. | [20:19] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust assbot justusranvier | [20:19] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user justusranvier: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=justusranvier | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=justusranvier | Rated since: Mon Feb 11 19:56:55 2013 | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [20:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.52141571 = 1.5642 BTC [-] {3} | [20:21] |
benkay | http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304279904579517934206301354?mod=trending_now_3 | [20:24] |
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mircea_popescu | ozbot pls to tell me wtf link is cause otherwise i just ignore them ty. | [20:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2800 @ 0.0001306 = 0.3657 BTC [-] {5} | [20:25] |
asciilifeform | benkay: no prizes for guessing what mega-subsidy like this does to the price. | [20:25] |
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asciilifeform | imagine if, rather than this, student loan were secured by... disassembly for organs | [20:26] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform the us has a serious problem with the absnece of an evil empire. | [20:27] |
ThickAsThieves | blog is in progress, need to wait for domain to propagate and some other bs | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | they couldn't be secured by organ harvesting, but they could be secured by sale to evil empire of fuckland | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | where one lives on a boat in a 2x3 space, separated by a hanging sheet from all the other prostitutes | [20:28] |
asciilifeform | what does fuckland do with the male idiots? | [20:28] |
asciilifeform | butugychag? | [20:28] |
benkay | cage matches. | [20:28] |
mircea_popescu | either that or... idem. apparently people pay to fuck males, too. | [20:28] |
benkay | o ya | [20:28] |
benkay | wait really? | [20:28] |
asciilifeform | niche product. | [20:28] |
asciilifeform | (literally...) | [20:28] |
benkay | i thought the homo scene was all about dat promiscuity. | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | here's a fun bit of the history of racism in europe : | [20:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.068 = 0.272 BTC [+] | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | gypsies always have lived as nomads. most of the ancient roman empire is inhabited by sedentary farmer types. the differences are quite marked, and children are wired to react negatively to difference. | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | consequently, for centuries, the ultimate parental threat was, "i'ma give you to the gypsy man, who comes by with a sack to collect bad kids" | [20:30] |
Naphex | thats taboo now though! | [20:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00095533 = 12.4671 BTC [+] {3} | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | in typical eeuropean quaintness, your average gypsy worker guy with a sack would generously play the part, for the benefit of any mom needing it | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | sort-of like spontaneous adult complicity. | [20:30] |
asciilifeform | the mega-lol being, that these folks would literally rather steal anything else | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | esp the mother. | [20:31] |
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mircea_popescu | !up zedong | [20:31] |
assbot | Voicing zedong for 30 minutes. | [20:31] |
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asciilifeform | even selling the female lusers, that'd be a serious haircut | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | (my braindead use of "racism" ethnically reflects merely the confused use of the term by the people most likely to use it, i disclaim any other implication) | [20:32] |
asciilifeform | considering what they'd be worth on international market | [20:32] |
asciilifeform | not exactly 'FDA Grade A' | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | there's an international market for badly brought up western females ? | [20:33] |
asciilifeform | gotta be | [20:33] |
asciilifeform | even pig shit can be sold | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | maybe if someone's looking for exclamation point counting services. | [20:33] |
dooglus | "whether his 3 digit jd acct is worth money" -- probably a little for vanity's sake, and more if it has a negative investment profit | [20:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52145683 BTC [+] | [20:34] |
dooglus | (accounts with negative profit pay no commission until the loss is recouped) | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | dooglus i believe the vanity value is actually an indirect measure of jd worth | [20:35] |
asciilifeform | you can use 'vi' instead of 'emacs' if you were to buy a parenthesis-counting slavegurl ? | [20:35] |
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Naphex | dooglus: ever tought about putting out an API? I've heard of guys who'd want to put JustDice in a Romanian Gabling Machine :) | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | he has an api im pretty sure | [20:37] |
Naphex | the ones the put in 'birts', what are they called mircea_popescu ? | [20:37] |
Naphex | pacanelele | [20:37] |
Naphex | :) | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | Naphex whoa srsly ? how'd it work tho ? | [20:37] |
asciilifeform | this is good point, dice gizmos ought to be physically present, blinkenlighs, bells, in boozing houses. | [20:37] |
Naphex | mircea_popescu: probably with btc from the bar, and house buys btc back. | [20:38] |
Naphex | atleast thats how i heard it proposed | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | getting the bar to grok btc processing tho... | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | Naphex you should build an api to support his api to make it easy for bars. | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | offer guaranteed values for a week, say. | [20:39] |
Naphex | btcxchange-rpc api should support mostly anything. but i'm swamped | [20:40] |
Naphex | working on the btc payments gateway | [20:40] |
asciilifeform | adding booze to diceatrons - this'd be like lithium deuteride booster for nuke. | [20:40] |
asciilifeform | just what doctor ordered. | [20:40] |
Naphex | so they can start advertising to online stores | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | dooglus you been putting any work into getting a physical machine ? | [20:41] |
Naphex | physical machine wouldn't be hard at all | [20:41] |
mircea_popescu | things that wouldn't be hard at all usually take upwards of six months. | [20:42] |
Naphex | mircea_popescu: http://www.alienconcept.ro/ | [20:42] |
benkay | [20:43] | |
mircea_popescu | definitely something to do there tho. | [20:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00095245 = 2.2564 BTC [-] | [20:49] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;rate hanbot 3 Only Functional part of Bitcointalk | [20:50] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user hanbot has been recorded. | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | "and if thy functional part offends thee, cut it out!" | [20:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00471 = 0.1978 BTC [+] | [20:51] |
kakobrekla | hello. | [20:54] |
kakobrekla | so many messages. | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | high amount of phone messages ? | [20:55] |
kakobrekla | [20:55] | |
mircea_popescu | !help | [20:55] |
assbot | List of commands: | [20:55] |
assbot | !up (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given sufficient WOT rating) | [20:55] |
assbot | !up |
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kakobrekla | [20:55] | |
assbot | !ticker |
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assbot | !last |
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assbot | !mp |
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mircea_popescu | shit. | [20:55] |
assbot | !rules |
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assbot | !exchanges |
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assbot | !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) | [20:55] |
assbot | !bash
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assbot | !quote
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ThickAsThieves | !exchanges | [20:55] |
mircea_popescu | (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given sufficient WOT rating) | (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given you're identified with gribble and in assbot's L2 WoT) | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | ? | [20:56] |
kakobrekla | [20:56] | |
mircea_popescu | not to pass things that one can easily calc << that's the correct design imo. | [20:56] |
kakobrekla | [20:56] | |
kakobrekla | [20:57] | |
mike_c | fair enough. | [20:57] |
benkay | http://butt.holdings/ | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | butt.butt | [21:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00095778 = 16.5217 BTC [+] {3} | [21:02] |
kakobrekla | [21:02] | |
BingoBoingo | http://gawker.com/notorious-troll-says-he-will-create-trolly-hedge-fund-c-1566707098 | [21:03] |
ozbot | Notorious Troll Says He Will Create Trolly Hedge Fund Called "TRO LLC" | [21:03] |
BingoBoingo | Rabit replies in the comments | [21:04] |
BingoBoingo | *rabite | [21:04] |
kakobrekla | >> Andrew "Weev" Auernheimer, the infamous hacker and troll, | [21:07] |
kakobrekla | who ?? | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | the at&t guy | [21:08] |
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kakobrekla | ah | [21:09] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 900 @ 0.14 = 126 BTC | [21:09] |
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mircea_popescu | http://37.media.tumblr.com/7f78eaba6f8c738f84f36ee55c260237/tumblr_mwxmio0Agj1spl2qwo1_r2_500.jpg | [21:10] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4538 @ 0.00013015 = 0.5906 BTC [-] {7} | [21:12] |
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jborkl_ | nice, very nice | [21:13] |
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jborkl_ | Almost done integrating a blockexplorer to my site- just waiting on the blockchain to dl | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | what's it called ? | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | http://37.media.tumblr.com/8f90e02d75f0f25a5100e83b60ec2e63/tumblr_n2r3zaCgd01qewacoo1_500.jpg | [21:15] |
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mircea_popescu | moiety http://24.media.tumblr.com/dd2adf09ed083e47c37107345099885c/tumblr_mqm7n600fP1qb6t6wo1_400.gif | [21:16] |
moiety | lololololol "dafuq?!" | [21:17] |
jborkl_ | it is going to be on bcoinnews.com for now I guess- I could always put it on btcrack.com | [21:17] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: if we get someone trustworthy doing mining at some point << the way i understand it, mining is -EV unless you own a semiconductor plant. | [21:19] |
asciilifeform | or at least have a share in one | [21:19] |
jborkl_ | 99,999 blocks to go- | [21:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.043999 = 0.176 BTC [+] {2} | [21:21] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.coindesk.com/xapo-launches-bitcoin-debit-card-accepted-at-all-mastercard-locations/ | [21:22] |
Naphex | ThickAsThieves: i think they just have a multi-account system, issue a mastercard, give USD, take BTC | [21:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-] | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://24.media.tumblr.com/1f95eb0bc80f1dad9b6eeb0b02c2f516/tumblr_mzywjikI5j1qzfebyo1_500.jpg | [21:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00095535 = 1.6241 BTC [-] | [21:25] |
Naphex | "Casares explained that Xapo added the product due to demand from current customers who have wanted a way to spend the roughly 10% of their funds (on average) they keep in the company’s hot wallets. The remainder is stored securely in cold storage." | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | http://24.media.tumblr.com/05faecbf33aaf001d27edb312fafe63e/tumblr_n413uzJHKh1s2yegdo1_r1_400.gif | [21:28] |
moiety | would probably get further with that lil dude than most customer services people mircea_popescu | [21:28] |
Naphex | so.. customer stores btc, credit 10% of btc value to corporate issued mastercard, use spends it. hold the btc | [21:28] |
Naphex | i think thats mostly it:o | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | ;;seen wences | [21:29] |
gribble | wences was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 44 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, 53 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: |
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Naphex | the roughly, and average chitchat, is if bitcoin values moves, you might have less then that 10% of the value on the card. until it readjusts | [21:30] |
Naphex | nice move, doable. mastercard might have a field day though :D | [21:31] |
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mircea_popescu | ok this shit's too cute : http://31.media.tumblr.com/fc31e4ae9fa57a23c45ab56261b69f7f/tumblr_mjd0u9f3Fj1qd5hzfo2_500.jpg http://37.media.tumblr.com/58a4e0f2ecced5023e43e1056d6b6ee3/tumblr_mjd0u9f3Fj1qd5hzfo3_500.jpg http://24.media.tumblr.com/e2d8ad05821d4990523d453dd473b812/tumblr_mjd0u9f3Fj1qd5hzfo1_500.jpg | [21:31] |
moiety | i just made an entirely unnatural noise, not gonna lie | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | you QUEEFED because of my tiny turtle pix ? | [21:32] |
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moiety | right into a jar (thinking ahead) | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | "i have the special QueefCaptu underwears! only 19'95 at selected retailers" | [21:33] |
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moiety | bahahaha "surprisingly comfortable too" | [21:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00095626 = 3.06 BTC [+] | [21:34] |
moiety | or 0.0561 BTC* | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | http://37.media.tumblr.com/42bd2627a419a203c58d37f3299a4a5e/tumblr_mzz5fo4agd1s199fdo1_400.gif | [21:37] |
moiety | i wonder how long 1QUEEFS would take to generate.... | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | 5 letters. not so bad. | [21:37] |
moiety | aw i doubt i have any caps in the house to recreate that last one, damnit | [21:38] |
BingoBoingo | If all caps is a must it will take longe rthough | [21:38] |
moiety | 1Queefs? | [21:38] |
moiety | i think allcaps looks better | [21:38] |
fluffypony | it was on the 24th day of April | [21:41] |
fluffypony | in the year of 2014 | [21:41] |
fluffypony | that mircea_popescu declared #bitcoin-assets become /r/awww | [21:41] |
fluffypony | and thus it was | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | RAW! | [21:41] |
moiety | queefs are aww? | [21:41] |
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moiety | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152347282685874 | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | did you know seals can get hickups ? | [21:42] |
moiety | actually a video | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://37.media.tumblr.com/a3bbb07a4142b2e45314ee3446a28ab5/tumblr_n3tf9cll861qbwg0zo1_500.gif << proof. | [21:42] |
moiety | jesus, pretty violent hiccups too! | [21:42] |
ThickAsThieves | http://rt.com/politics/154056-russian-bloggers-mass-media/ | [21:42] |
Naphex | BingoBoingo: hey, if you have any suggestions, annoiances or any feedback regarding usage of btcxchange, shoot any time. :D | [21:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00095535 = 2.7705 BTC [-] | [21:44] |
BingoBoingo | Naphex: I can't think of any atm | [21:44] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/UtwRmkm.png | [21:46] |
fluffypony | turtle approval is at an all time high | [21:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1695 @ 0.00095535 = 1.6193 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: http://gigaom.com/2014/04/24/a-debit-card-for-bitcoin-xapo-solves-the-payment-problem-with-mastercard-tie-in/ | [21:49] |
fluffypony | "This story was updated at 9:52am PT to reflect the fact that Xapo does not have a formal relationship with MasterCard, but only that it hopes to have one through a partner bank. This is contrary to earlier claims made by Xapo to Gigaom both in person and in writing that Xapo would issue a MasterCard-branded debit card. A MasterCard representative confirmed that it has no relationship with Xapo." | [21:49] |
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fluffypony | I don't have a submarine, but I hope to have one through a military contractor...I can haz press coverage nao? | [21:50] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.06968754 = 1.0453 BTC [+] {2} | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | they ate the swrawberry for a week afterwards | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | " but only that it hopes to have one through a partner bank" | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | so bitcoin. | [21:51] |
ThickAsThieves | sigh | [21:52] |
bounce | huh, there's actually a(t least one) shipyard in cuba | [21:52] |
ThickAsThieves | that makes them like the 11th co to claim a btc credit card | [21:52] |
ThickAsThieves | all bs | [21:52] |
ThickAsThieves | so this DarkMarket thing | [21:53] |
ThickAsThieves | can the gov make it illegal to run the app? | [21:53] |
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bounce | didn't germany already outlaw the likes of nmap? | [21:54] |
ThickAsThieves | it seems each user is a host of the network | [21:54] |
ThickAsThieves | A user downloads the DarkMarket software, which runs as a daemon in the background of the user’s operating system, allowing them to connect to the DarkMarket network through any browser. The DarkMarket daemon incorporates a library of commands for peer-to-peer networking known as ZeroMQ, which allows the user’s PC to become a node in a distributed network where every user can | [21:54] |
ThickAsThieves | communicate directly with every other user. | [21:54] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://www.wired.com/2014/04/darkmarket/ | [21:55] |
ozbot | Inside the ‘DarkMarket’ Prototype, a Silk Road the FBI Can Never Seize | Threat Level | WIRED | [21:55] |
bounce | zeromq is a p2p thing now? | [21:55] |
fluffypony | I actually have a BTC debit card from the now defunct thebitcoincard.co.uk | [21:56] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213832.msg2705402#msg2705402 | [21:56] |
ozbot | First prepaid card to exchange Bitcoins | [21:56] |
fluffypony | ended up just being a tc debit card | [21:56] |
fluffypony | and you have to wade through a French website to activate it | [21:56] |
fluffypony | and then you used to be able to buy overpriced BTC from thebitcoincard.co.uk and they'd load it on your card in fiat | [21:56] |
fluffypony | so stupid | [21:57] |
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HeySteve | I see a reputation system as pretty critical to the success of something like dark markets | [21:58] |
HeySteve | bitwasp too, where one can have ephemeral markets that come and go like a stream of soap bubble worlds | [21:58] |
HeySteve | verifiable and community-rated identities across these markets is key to improving trade | [21:59] |
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HeySteve | it's all very well to dodge the federales, but not if it will likely land you in the clutches of scammers | [22:00] |
ThickAsThieves | are you daying DarkMarket doesnt have such system? | [22:02] |
ThickAsThieves | saying* | [22:02] |
pankkake | fluffypony: oh god, it's our friend dotcoin/bitcoinbourse … https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189119.0 | [22:02] |
HeySteve | ThickAsThieves: "At the moment, DarkMarket displays only a bare IP address for every user..." | [22:03] |
ThickAsThieves | lol | [22:03] |
HeySteve | there is linkage between nicks and public keys, but no mention of rating | [22:03] |
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ThickAsThieves | i recall taaki's presentation including such | [22:04] |
ThickAsThieves | or at least methods of conflict resolution | [22:04] |
ThickAsThieves | if it is dark, wtf does show ip? | [22:04] |
fluffypony | pankkake: LOL - I had no idea, no wonder their product was so shitty | [22:04] |
HeySteve | ThickAsThieves, they haven't programmed that bit yet but they seem to expect someone will soon... | [22:04] |
HeySteve | ThickAsThieves, you watched their presentation in Canada? | [22:05] |
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HeySteve | ah wait my mistake, they do say they have a rep system | [22:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00095626 = 6.2157 BTC [+] | [22:08] |
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Naphex | incoming split? | [22:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10345 @ 0.00095663 = 9.8963 BTC [+] {2} | [22:16] |
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mircea_popescu | The DarkMarket daemon << is this just a rebranded tor bundle thing ? | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | onion or w/e it was called | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | !up France-bitcoin | [22:19] |
assbot | Voicing France-bitcoin for 30 minutes. | [22:19] |
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mircea_popescu | France-bitcoin srsly ? what a name. | [22:19] |
bounce | why such hate? france AND bitcoin. what's not to love? | [22:20] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06968754 = 0.1394 BTC [+] | [22:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1980 @ 0.00095843 = 1.8977 BTC [+] {2} | [22:21] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2370 @ 0.00095875 = 2.2722 BTC [+] | [22:22] |
punkman | The DarkMarket daemon << is this just a rebranded tor bundle thing ? << no it looks like a piece of shit implemented on top of 0mq, which didn't even do security for the first few major versions | [22:22] |
France-bitcoin | mircea_popescu, a blog name... | [22:22] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman for the love of meh. why not just rebundle tor. | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | win-win wtf. | [22:23] |
fluffypony | bounce: too many Frenchman in France, maybe that's his problem :-P | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | davout pankkake etc will be pleased to hear :D | [22:24] |
France-bitcoin | yeah we know each other :) | [22:24] |
France-bitcoin | i'm here because gribble does not integrate #bitcoin-fr mostly | [22:25] |
France-bitcoin | we are working on that | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | o that's a thing ? | [22:25] |
bounce | sheesh, even nickserv registered. such original nickname. | [22:25] |
pankkake | France might end up with more tourists than French | [22:25] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: they plan to add Tor but still, I don't think it's prudent to 0mq with random nodes | [22:26] |
France-bitcoin | ah pankkake :) | [22:26] |
fluffypony | pankkake: surely the French would never allow it! | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | punkman prolly not. | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | -BitBot- NB : le chan est loggé et les archives sont publiées à l'adresse suivante : http://bitcoin.powaaa.com/irc/ | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | liek a supybot or what is it ? | [22:27] |
fluffypony | "On international tests, American children rank 25th in math and 21st in science, despite the push for greater accountability through No Child Left Behind. What’s more, although America is falling behind in math, our kids are first in confidence. American students get terrible math scores compared to their international peers, but they think they’re great in math—in fact, they have more confidence in their math skills than students from | [22:27] |
fluffypony | any other country." | [22:27] |
fluffypony | http://www.education.com/magazine/article/waiting-superman-means-parents/ | [22:27] |
ozbot | "Waiting for Superman": What it Means for You and Your Child | Education.com | [22:27] |
BingoBoingo | http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/03/17/bad_romance_france_s_17_billion_warship_deal_with_russia_gets_new_scrutiny | [22:28] |
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mircea_popescu | lol they actually managed to get charles de gaulle seaworthy ? | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | !up VictorM | [22:29] |
assbot | Voicing VictorM for 30 minutes. | [22:29] |
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davout | !up VictorM | [22:29] |
assbot | Voice for VictorM extended to 30 minutes. | [22:29] |
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mircea_popescu | ha-ha! | [22:29] |
davout | yea, i've been talking for a couple of minutes before realizing i didn't voice myself >< | [22:29] |
davout | so i was saying | [22:29] |
davout | France-bitcoin: gribble is on #bitcoin-fr what are you talking about | [22:30] |
davout | also that my apartment got broken into this afternoon, probably some french people... | [22:30] |
France-bitcoin | gribble is giving a list of chan to be on to proceed | [22:30] |
bounce | damage? | [22:30] |
France-bitcoin | you could have asked on pv :) | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | davout he means it's not on the auth list. | [22:30] |
davout | France-bitcoin mircea_popescu ahh i see | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | cause nanotube wanted to keep some sort of tabs on what chans you can auth from, which is sensible. | [22:31] |
France-bitcoin | should add ours | [22:31] |
davout | bounce: negligible, most of the hassle is the broken window and the time lost with the police | [22:31] |
davout | mircea_popescu: how is it sensible? | [22:31] |
France-bitcoin | that would avoid this kind of "stuff" | [22:31] |
davout | France-bitcoin: if you're doing business you should probably hang around the "authable" chans anyway | [22:32] |
nanotube | davout: i just added #bitcoin-fr to auth list, by bad_duck's request. so... there. | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | davout for one, there's peeps trying to scamhunt, they gotta idle in all chans that allow authing | [22:32] |
France-bitcoin | well the welcoming party here is nice :) I should think about that yeah :) | [22:32] |
davout | nanotube: thanks! | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | cause while scammers usually id in pm, they still gotta be in chan | [22:33] |
nanotube | davout: np. keep an eye out for scammers. | [22:33] |
davout | nanotube: will do | [22:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 56 @ 0.03299639 = 1.8478 BTC [+] {8} | [22:33] |
davout | ;;rated nanotube | [22:34] |
gribble | You have not yet rated user nanotube | [22:34] |
France-bitcoin | we don't have any on our channel as far as i know... | [22:34] |
nanotube | France-bitcoin: that's cool. we should all move there, then. :) | [22:34] |
davout | ;;rate nanotube 1 kind sir | [22:34] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nanotube has been recorded. | [22:34] |
nanotube | ;;rate davout 1 old timer | [22:35] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded. | [22:35] |
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France-bitcoin | stop rubbing each other guys :) | [22:41] |
France-bitcoin | now i just got to debug some strange stuff with gribble privately and I will leave you alone | [22:42] |
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fluffypony | oooh la la | [22:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0335 = 0.1005 BTC [+] | [22:43] |
davout | France-bitcoin: publicly might be better if you're debugging gribble and if it's not too noisy :D | [22:43] |
HeySteve | http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/author/sara-medina | [22:43] |
HeySteve | good night all | [22:43] |
bounce | isn't that what #gribble is for? | [22:43] |
fluffypony | lol customers...ticket just got escalated to me: "I run the 8th largest magazine in the world" - maybe I should reply and ask them what they're doing buying GPU mining frames | [22:43] |
France-bitcoin | well i did need to connect here (or another chan on the list...) then do it privately which is what i'm talking about | [22:44] |
davout | bounce: you got a point | [22:44] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.53137777 = 1.0628 BTC [+] {2} | [22:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 134 @ 0.0075 = 1.005 BTC [+] | [22:45] |
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davout | the xapo story is interesting, wonder where it will go | [22:46] |
davout | given that mastercard is pretty anti-bitcoin | [22:46] |
fluffypony | davout: I met with one of the banks here last year August-ish about it | [22:46] |
fluffypony | they have VISA and MasterCard prepaids | [22:46] |
fluffypony | and they said that in general MC and VISA don't care what they issue | [22:47] |
fluffypony | and that their auth systems on the back-end don't even have to be actual currency | [22:47] |
davout | fluffypony: mastercard opposed bitinstant's card, and they also opposed ours when we wanted to issue one in partnership with aqoba | [22:47] |
fluffypony | oic | [22:47] |
fluffypony | couldn't you have gone with a VISA partner? | [22:47] |
bounce | except they might at the drop of a hat decide that they don't like where some of their users send their money and stop doing it | [22:48] |
davout | so, as soon as they actually hear about it they'll fuck the deal up | [22:48] |
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davout | fluffypony: the psp we were working with was working with mastercard, custom cards are mostly mastercard's thing, not really visa's | [22:49] |
davout | but in theory there's nothing that prevents visa from doing it | [22:49] |
davout | i'm off, stomachs don't just fill themselves | [22:49] |
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fluffypony | have fun - buon appetit | [22:50] |
davout | !up France-bitcoin | [22:50] |
assbot | Voicing France-bitcoin for 30 minutes. | [22:50] |
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davout | fluffypony: merci! | [22:50] |
France-bitcoin | thx davout, still taking care of the kids and the gribble thing is not finished yet... | [22:51] |
kakobrekla | davout what is the story with xapo? | [22:51] |
davout | kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2014#640741 | [22:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00095875 = 3.5953 BTC [+] | [22:52] |
kakobrekla | the log pft. ill remove it just so i dont have to read it. | [22:52] |
fluffypony | kakobrekla: the GigaOm article is better because it contains an embarrassing update | [22:52] |
fluffypony | http://gigaom.com/2014/04/24/a-debit-card-for-bitcoin-xapo-solves-the-payment-problem-with-mastercard-tie-in/ | [22:52] |
ozbot | Updated: A debit card for bitcoin: Xapo could solve the payment problem with help from banks — | [22:52] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 98 @ 0.0335 = 3.283 BTC [+] | [22:53] |
kakobrekla | they use bitstamp, fucking great. | [22:54] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 58 @ 0.0742218 = 4.3049 BTC [-] | [22:59] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 3.51308395 BTC to 13`595 shares, 25841 satoshi per share | [23:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 58 @ 0.0335 = 1.943 BTC [+] | [23:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.0742218 = 1.9298 BTC [-] | [23:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.0335 = 0.6365 BTC [+] | [23:01] |
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asciilifeform | re: darkmarket: anything vaguely approaching this is (at least by thinking people) regarded as 'guilty until proven innocent' of honeypot | [23:04] |
asciilifeform | and ought to be designed accordingly | [23:04] |
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ThickAsThieves | alrighty here's the tat blog http://devilsadvocate.biz/flirting-with-s-mpif/ | [23:05] |
asciilifeform | unfortunately, 'designed accordingly' consists, imho, entirely of the weirdo heresy that only i seem to believe in. | [23:05] |
ThickAsThieves | i'll surely be tweaking the style and widgets etc | [23:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00095875 = 0.9588 BTC [+] | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | ThickAsThieves: surprised that you haven't taken the offer yet - it sounds like fun. | [23:06] |
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ThickAsThieves | it's not a matter of lack of interest | [23:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5455 @ 0.00095535 = 5.2114 BTC [-] | [23:08] |
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kakobrekla | the devils advocate? | [23:09] |
kakobrekla | is this a new blog of yours? | [23:09] |
kakobrekla | i gotta give it to you, you pick some strange names | [23:10] |
kakobrekla | 'thieves', 'devil', ... are dem cute pirates coming too? :) | [23:12] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 145 @ 0.06800759 = 9.8611 BTC [-] {4} | [23:13] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.0742218 = 0.668 BTC [-] | [23:13] |
BingoBoingo | I feel special, ThickAsThieves gets no insight into my operations othe than what I might publically disclose. | [23:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5395 @ 0.00095481 = 5.1512 BTC [-] | [23:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105 @ 0.00095875 = 0.1007 BTC [+] | [23:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [COG] 122 @ 0.00762908 = 0.9307 BTC [+] {5} | [23:18] |
kakobrekla | ascii, dunno if you got my | [23:19] |
kakobrekla | pm, if im not on your whilelist i can paste here | [23:19] |
kakobrekla | whitelist* | [23:20] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: got it | [23:22] |
kakobrekla | kk | [23:23] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: no pricing info on site, unfortunately | [23:23] |
kakobrekla | its not customary for such ops to do that here. | [23:24] |
kakobrekla | you send in what you want and they spit out the number. | [23:24] |
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asciilifeform | kakobrekla: atm i'm looking for folks with reasonably cheap pcb stuffing for obscenely small quantities (<50) | [23:25] |
asciilifeform | this may or may not exist. | [23:25] |
kakobrekla | they do small runs | [23:25] |
asciilifeform | in that industry, 'small' typically means less than 10,000 | [23:25] |
ThickAsThieves | [16:09] <+kakobrekla> the devils advocate? /// one of my fav movies, also a term many people have used on me, also what i feel the essence of blogging is | [23:26] |
ThickAsThieves | taking the other side | [23:26] |
kakobrekla | they even offer submitting it to the bucket and they print when they have one full board used | [23:26] |
kakobrekla | that is used for small diyers | [23:26] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: for pcb fab only (where such is typical) or smt placement? | [23:26] |
kakobrekla | pcb fab only | [23:26] |
asciilifeform | i'm pretty happy with my current supplier for those | [23:26] |
asciilifeform | doubt that anyone can beat the chinese slavefarms for pcb | [23:27] |
kakobrekla | i wasnt saying that | [23:27] |
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kakobrekla | just saying its not an issue to get it done | [23:28] |
kakobrekla | even doing placement on a small run | [23:28] |
kakobrekla | not 10k | [23:29] |
asciilifeform | for pcb, my current supplier gives me, believe or not, 3 day turnaround, incl. airplane from cn to us | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | but 100 boards | [23:29] |
asciilifeform | ok that sounds promising | [23:29] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: you know the owner personally? | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | not the owner, a guy who works at the second link i gave you | [23:30] |
asciilifeform | aha | [23:30] |
kakobrekla | he might be co owner not sure | [23:30] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: I expected you as more of a Devil Wears Prada kinda guy :-P | [23:30] |
kakobrekla | but whatever- | [23:30] |
ThickAsThieves | not sure what that means, am i the bitch or the bitch? | [23:31] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [23:31] |
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ThickAsThieves | not sure if youve any interest, or whether it's a good idea, but i'd be happy to try and connect you to Friedcat at ASICMINER if you think he might have any connections of interest re pcb or components | [23:35] |
mike_c | did everyone get home from the conference and start mining atc? nethash is booming. | [23:36] |
asciilifeform | ;;gettrust Friedcat | [23:36] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user asciilifeform to user Friedcat: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=asciilifeform&dest=Friedcat | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Friedcat | Rated since: never | [23:36] |
ThickAsThieves | friedcat himself isnt exactly reliable, but he might have resources | [23:37] |
Naphex | ;;ident | [23:37] |
gribble | Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!~naphex@btcxchange.ro', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu | [23:37] |
ThickAsThieves | i aint mining teh ATCs! | [23:37] |
asciilifeform | when a fellow isn't reliable, hard to be sure how much because of his own head and how much because he relies on muppets. | [23:37] |
Naphex | what is atc? | [23:37] |
fluffypony | Naphex: teh only altcoin | [23:38] |
ThickAsThieves | www.therealaltcoin.org | [23:38] |
fluffypony | https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/4081-altcoin-atc-information/ | [23:38] |
Naphex | sorry, don't follow alts | [23:38] |
ThickAsThieves | thats the point! | [23:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [COG] 250 @ 0.00762649 = 1.9066 BTC [-] {7} | [23:38] |
fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: are asicminer still planning on manufacturing to sell to miners, or are they now all in-house mining only? I haven't kept tabs in ages | [23:40] |
ThickAsThieves | i havent either | [23:40] |
ThickAsThieves | but they just posted a big update this week | [23:40] |
ThickAsThieves | jutarul posted it | [23:41] |
ThickAsThieves | if ter interested | [23:41] |
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ThickAsThieves | yer | [23:41] |
fluffypony | ok will checksie | [23:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0009539 = 9.7298 BTC [-] {2} | [23:41] |
fluffypony | find ./ -type f -name '*.py' | xargs sed -i '' 's/http:///https:///g' | [23:45] |
fluffypony | wrong button | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | given what i know about the miner builders, i'm not certain i'd want to purchase so much as shoelaces from anyone associated | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | but i could be convinced otherwise, given new data | [23:46] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah i wouldnt force it | [23:46] |
ThickAsThieves | more like a, ifyerinapinch kinda thing | [23:46] |
asciilifeform | no pinch | [23:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06961251 = 0.1392 BTC [-] | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | just keeping options open | [23:47] |
bounce | apparently blockchain removed the fix api announcement? | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | my main purpose in asking here is to sound out the possibility that someone knows such an operator in person, and can vouch for him. | [23:47] |
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Naphex | ;;seen tcatm | [23:50] |
gribble | I have not seen tcatm. | [23:50] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: I can you put you in touch with the Italians that are doing stuff for us, I know the owner well and can vouch for him, and they routinely work with small quantities | [23:51] |
asciilifeform | fluffypony: if it's no secret, what did you do with them? | [23:52] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: no secret at all - we have a design for a remote power on/power off system for mining rigs that we're busy finalising with them | [23:53] |
fluffypony | lemme pastebin it out the proposal | [23:53] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zimEPURt | [23:53] |
fluffypony | that's what they've designed with us and are busy prototyping atm | [23:53] |
asciilifeform | fluffypony: care to say approximate cost of the prototype run? | [23:54] |
fluffypony | lemme grab my notes and I'll tell you | [23:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00095561 = 3.8224 BTC [+] | [23:55] |
fluffypony | "For the initial batch we can use manual soldered components, so, we can avoid to have the master piece plate for SMD components to buy, and move to SMD only if production batches will go over 1000 pieces." | [23:56] |
fluffypony | "easy also to prototipe, so i expect to have a "few prototipes" costs between 15/20$ each, and a production price no more than 10/12$ each for low batches ( ~ 100 pieces )" | [23:56] |
fluffypony | (that was for the board that goes into the BeagleBone for the master unit) | [23:56] |
midnightmagic | ooOoo | [23:57] |
fluffypony | "For the slaves, i was thinking about using a pic18f67j60, it is an 8 bit MCU with an ethernet mac/phy embedded, and it is very powerfull. the same circuit we have for the expansion board with this MCU and a magnetic rj45 connector will cost the same for prototipes and no more than 15$ each in production for low batches." | [23:57] |
kakobrekla | you are 2 years late with this shit | [23:57] |
asciilifeform | nobody's manually soldering a tqfp-64. | [23:57] |
asciilifeform | (not that it can't be done, but nobody on the planet will do it for $20.) | [23:58] |
fluffypony | asciilifeform: have you seen this - http://elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html | [23:58] |
fluffypony | :-P | [23:58] |
asciilifeform | sure. | [23:58] |
mike_c | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAByNlfkyE | [23:59] |
asciilifeform | once again, virtually anything can be done under a good microscope, with steady hands | [23:59] |
fluffypony | anyway, I can get him to hop on here and you can have a chat to him and see | [23:59] |
asciilifeform | it's simply that it's a bitch | [23:59] |
asciilifeform | fluffypony: sure, let's, i appreciate the effort | [23:59] |
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