Forum logs for 23 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

triptyl	greeting brolos	[00:00]
triptyl	crowdfunding act passed into law	[00:03]
triptyl	http://www.betabeat.com/2012/03/22/crowfund-act-passes-senate-jobs-act-passes-03222012/	[00:03]
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unreal-dude	hrm, interesting	[00:06]
Joric	is it what bull trap looks like?	[00:06]
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coingenuity	nice	[00:08]
coingenuity	thats good ot hear triptyl	[00:08]
Cory	I want to buy 100 BTC at $4.30 with PPUSD or MoneyPak.	[00:09]
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cheebydi	;;ticker	[00:10]
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Joric	a tiny spike ~2.7k sold	[00:18]
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triptyl	bargalarganarg	[00:20]
mod6	;;ticker	[00:21]
gribble	Best bid: 4.63981, Best ask: 4.64, Bid-ask spread: 0.00019, Last trade: 4.63981, 24 hour volume: 51774, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.88	[00:21]
splatster	triptyl: What's that supposed to mean?	[00:22]
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triptyl	it means the party is here	[00:23]
bonks	is a $125 6870 worth it?	[00:24]
draco49	new or used?	[00:25]
bonks	used	[00:25]
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draco49	You can get a new one for like $160	[00:25]
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mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << now with GRAPHS :D	[00:26]
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draco49	Still just test stocks?	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	yup	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	quote from pm "o hey. eventually you'll have a space invaders console up there too ;)"	[00:28]
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draco49	lol that would be cool	[00:28]
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bonks	draco49: Thanks. So what's a good value for used? I'm not much of a craigslist guy	[00:29]
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draco49	bonks, If it's an in-person cash deal, maybe $115-$120. It depends on how used it is.	[00:30]
bonks	he says 6 months	[00:31]
bonks	Does that affect performance?	[00:31]
draco49	If it's relatively new and hasn't been beat to hell by an overzealous overclocker, I'd say $115-$120.	[00:31]
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bonks	Alright cool	[00:34]
draco49	You might want to check with some of the people in #bitcoin-mining before you decide whether to buy it or not.	[00:34]
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bonks	If i can get it cheaper it might be worth it to get my feet wet in mining, I don't want to jump all in.	[00:42]
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rg	mm	[00:44]
rg	good flick	[00:44]
rg	holy bitcoin drop	[00:45]
rg	;;ticker	[00:45]
bonks	It just seems easier to mine, the last couple of days I looked at trading, so I want to look into mining small scale	[00:45]
gribble	Best bid: 4.7254, Best ask: 4.72721, Bid-ask spread: 0.00181, Last trade: 4.72721, 24 hour volume: 55056, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.88	[00:45]
rg	;;asks 5	[00:45]
gribble	There are currently 42191.086 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 207332.557128 USD in total.	[00:45]
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chwergy	Anyone sell me BTC for mtgox USD code?	[00:47]
coingenuity	how much and what rate chwergy	[00:49]
EvanR	;;ticker	[00:49]
Cusipzzz	EvanR: rallymode	[00:49]
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rg	Cusi: what OS did you want	[00:49]
BenFranklin	Established SR vendor has bitcoins looking for Monepak or Western Union.	[00:50]
rg	eek	[00:50]
rg	no	[00:50]
rg	Ben	[00:50]
BenFranklin	Want to establish long term relationship	[00:50]
rg	shhh	[00:50]
rg	simply 'im selling bitcoins' will suffice	[00:50]
BenFranklin	sorry	[00:50]
rg	well, the damage has been done, it will be up to the ops to decide how to act on it	[00:50]
rg	just .. dont do it again	[00:51]
rg	;;ident benfranklin	[00:51]
gribble	Nick 'benfranklin', with hostmask 'BenFranklin!458e755c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.142.117.92', is not identified.	[00:51]
rg	;;tell benfranklin [guide]	[00:51]
rg	read that, sign up	[00:51]
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Sublime_	I have a $250 moneypack and Im looking to buy some btc, can anyone help me out?	[00:54]
Cusipzzz	lol, he's fine. we have many SR guys, it's like don't ask don't tell	[00:54]
vragnaroda	BenFranklin: In the future, don't be so fucking retarded, but being a vendor on SR doesn't mean shit to anyone buying your BTC unless you can prove that to your counterparty and for fuck's sake, don't do that.	[00:55]
vragnaroda	Discretion is wise. ;)	[00:55]
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Sublime_	Still nobody selling btc?	[00:57]
BenFranklin	Hey, thanks for the advice!	[00:58]
Sublime_	Ill even by at 5.4 per btc	[00:58]
Sublime_	*buy	[00:58]
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rg	also	[00:59]
rg	advertising that youre a vendor of SR and coming on from your home IP is pretty much a nice bullseye that says	[01:00]
rg	hey	[01:00]
rg	come prosecute me for federal crimes ive commited	[01:00]
Sublime_	Hahaha	[01:00]
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mircea_popescu	how do you know its HIS home ip ?	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	maybe its his ex's	[01:01]
triptyl	dont be a narc rg	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php ok, how retarded are the price/volume icons ? are they too small ?	[01:02]
Sublime_	Im convince not a single person in this room has any btc in their possesion	[01:02]
Sublime_	*convinced	[01:02]
kakobreklaa	I have 1.	[01:02]
Sublime_	lol	[01:02]
rawrmage	Sublime_: orly	[01:02]
chwergy	cavirtex has btc selling for 4.5	[01:03]
Sublime_	Yes! I challenge you! Sell me 45!	[01:03]
coingenuity	you would be dead wrong Sublime_	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	sublime_ : i have over 5k.	[01:03]
Sublime_	Prove me wrong! sell me some lol	[01:03]
splatster	Sublime_: I do, I'm just not selling.	[01:03]
Sublime_	Sell!	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	lol	[01:03]
Sublime_	:(	[01:03]
kakobreklaa	OVER 9000	[01:03]
Sublime_	Stingy mofos	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	most people here are old timers with large holdings	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	there's also noobs like rg, but hey :D	[01:03]
coingenuity	:)	[01:03]
coingenuity	hahahah	[01:03]
mod6	maybe something like this could help mircea_popescu: http://www.jqplot.com/	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	mod6 my problem's more in terms of size.	[01:04]
Sublime_	Whos cavirtex?	[01:04]
coingenuity	Sublime_: what rate per bitcoin and how are you paying	[01:04]
coingenuity	it's an exchange	[01:04]
coingenuity	for canadians	[01:04]
Sublime_	I have a $250 moneypack with the receipt	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	for cavorting canadians	[01:04]
coingenuity	meh moneypak	[01:04]
coingenuity	>.<	[01:04]
Sublime_	:(	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	what do you want, gold ?	[01:05]
Sublime_	btc please	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	not you, coingenuity	[01:05]
Sublime_	oh sorry lol	[01:05]
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Sublime_	And I need 46 btc so Im paying like 5.43 :P	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	god if btc keeps at 4.7-4.8 till next friday the people with all the calls will be pissed off.	[01:06]
coingenuity	lol mircea_popescu yeah basically	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	its like my personal trollery machine, btc pops, ppl buy calls, btc drops.	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	death and thunder.	[01:07]
splatster	lol @ people and their risky investments	[01:07]
coingenuity	nah, i meant re: gold :P	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	o	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	goldbug.	[01:08]
coingenuity	i was on teh phonez	[01:08]
bonks	what factors control the rate of btc?	[01:08]
coingenuity	yep, i am :)	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	the ammt of open puts and calls i hold bonks	[01:08]
bonks	so the people with the most shares?	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	see, it's a fixed supply asset. so the more ppl wanting to buy, the higher the price.	[01:09]
rg	man i wish i understood peoples upsetness with WHMCS	[01:10]
rg	they're like	[01:10]
rg	it stores the password in plaintext	[01:10]
rg	and im like	[01:10]
rg	bro	[01:10]
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rg	that password isnt valid for anything	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	WHMCS killed their auntie.	[01:11]
rg	WHMCS is shit	[01:11]
Cusipzzz	rg: got it fixed?	[01:11]
rg	Cusipzzz: got what? whmcs?	[01:11]
rg	yeah, stupid bug i found i guess	[01:11]
Cusipzzz	the panel probs	[01:11]
Cusipzzz	ah cool	[01:11]
rg	when i updated my admin account ( i changed the name listed ) it re-insrts it into the DB but for some reason it doesnt reinsert my 'template' column	[01:12]
chwergy	hey guys, places to cash out a moneypak other than greendot and paypal?	[01:12]
Sublime_	ANyone know easystevey?	[01:12]
rg	so the PHP code just dies when it cant pull the template leement out of the db	[01:12]
rg	so i just manually inserted it.. and it works	[01:12]
Cusipzzz	ez game, lol	[01:12]
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mircea_popescu	here chwergy ?	[01:12]
Sublime_	get rating;; easystevey	[01:12]
Sublime_	fail	[01:12]
rg	this new customer says i ignored him	[01:12]
rg	but i sent him 6 emails, he never responded	[01:13]
rg	i think we have a serious miscommunication going	[01:13]
Sublime_	;;guide	[01:13]
rg	its ;;getrating easystevey	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	maybe you're going into spam	[01:13]
rg	all comands are prefixed with ;;command input	[01:13]
Cusipzzz	cusomers sucks.. o wait, i shouldnt say that now, lol	[01:13]
rg	no i dont have a spam folder	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	him not you silly	[01:13]
rg	i just change email addresses when i get too much scam	[01:13]
chwergy	well, i want to empty the balance of the card so someone else doesnt use the code	[01:13]
rg	spam*	[01:13]
rg	chwergy: why	[01:13]
rg	whats happened?	[01:13]
chwergy	nothing, just in trading	[01:14]
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rg	i think yo ucan redeem a moneypak for cash	[01:14]
chwergy	when people give you the number it's nice to be able to cash it out	[01:14]
rg	in the store	[01:14]
jackyyll	;;guide	[01:14]
Sublime_	;;get rating easystevey	[01:14]
chwergy	oh, im in Canada	[01:14]
rg	but most people put it onto a greendot card or paypal	[01:14]
easystevey	;;getrating easystevey	[01:14]
gribble	User easystevey, created on Mon Mar 12 17:30:07 2012. Cumulative rating 16, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=easystevey Currently authenticated from hostmask easystevey!48e715d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.231.21.212	[01:14]
chwergy	nocando mon frier	[01:14]
rg	oui oui	[01:14]
Sublime_	Thanks lol	[01:14]
jackyyll	why didn't ;;guide do anything	[01:15]
rg	;;tell jackyyll [guide]	[01:15]
jackyyll	nothing :o	[01:15]
rg	;;ticker	[01:15]
gribble	Best bid: 4.73672, Best ask: 4.73673, Bid-ask spread: 9.99999999962e-06, Last trade: 4.73672, 24 hour volume: 56811, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.88	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	is gribble in the aha	[01:15]
spawn-	Selling BTC for PPUSD or amazon GC	[01:15]
rg	gribble is fine	[01:15]
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rg	hes probably not seeing it	[01:15]
coingenuity	tis in a private message X_X	[01:15]
rg	isnt it a notice	[01:15]
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rg	;;guide	[01:16]
gribble	Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc	[01:16]
jackyyll	dont have any windows open with gribble	[01:16]
coingenuity	its a /query	[01:16]
jackyyll	unless im REALLY blnd	[01:16]
coingenuity	or in socket speak QUERY	[01:16]
rg	Cusi: you want your login info	[01:16]
rg	or you want me to email you	[01:16]
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Sublime_	Could someone act as an escrow for me and easystevey?	[01:18]
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rg	# hdparm -tT /dev/vda	[01:18]
rg	Timing cached reads: 15346 MB in 2.00 seconds = 7682.28 MB/sec	[01:18]
rg	Timing buffered disk reads: 2556 MB in 3.00 seconds = 851.83 MB/sec	[01:18]
rg	oo baby	[01:18]
rg	you so hot n sexy!	[01:18]
nanotube	Sublime_: #bitcoin-escrow is generally used to set that up :)	[01:19]
Sublime_	Thanks!	[01:19]
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bonks	so many bitcoin channels	[01:19]
rg	or ask someoen with trading history	[01:20]
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jackyyll	it'generating entropy is a pain lol	[01:20]
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rg	just move your mouse around	[01:21]
nanotube	disk activity is generally pretty good for entropy.	[01:21]
jackyyll	it's a server	[01:21]
jackyyll	btu yeah doing	[01:21]
jackyyll	find /var/ /usr /lib /srv -type f -print0 \| xargs -0 cat > /dev/null	[01:21]
nanotube	try "ls -R /" :)	[01:21]
jackyyll	which is still not enough apparently	[01:21]
nanotube	or that	[01:21]
jackyyll	at least not yet	[01:22]
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Sublime_	;;getrating spawn-	[01:22]
rg	neofutur: are you around to discuss some hosting stuffs?	[01:23]
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Joric	does anyone have a slightest idea how zhou adjusts buy/sell price ?	[01:25]
Cory	He takes a 1% fee.	[01:25]
Cory	Guarantees 50 BTC liquidity.	[01:25]
Cory	And pays MtGox fees.	[01:26]
Joric	what's 50 btc liquidity	[01:26]
Cory	You can buy 50 BTC at the advertized price.	[01:26]
chwergy	https://www.cavirtex.com/orderbook BTC at 4.5 CAD	[01:27]
chwergy	CAD is higher than USD right now :3	[01:27]
Joric	i don't quite get it i only may buy in 50 btc packs?	[01:27]
Joric	50 btc at a time?	[01:28]
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spawn-	Selling BTC for PPUSD or amazon GC	[01:28]
matthew_	buying BTC for MP	[01:28]
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jackyyll	why wont gribble tlak to me :S	[01:31]
jackyyll	even in PM he wont	[01:31]
rg	maybe you got ignored for sending invalid commands	[01:31]
jackyyll	first command i sent was ;;guide	[01:32]
chwergy	try sending in PM without ;;	[01:32]
jackyyll	hok	[01:32]
chwergy	also, guide is not a command	[01:32]
jackyyll	well gpg eregister doesnt work either	[01:33]
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chwergy	then i do not know	[01:34]
jackyyll	does gribble ban for idling?	[01:34]
Cory	Joric: After 50 BTC, the price may change because of your impact on the market. You couldn't sell 1000 BTC at $4.70 on MtGox right now; there would be slippage.	[01:35]
*	MBS considers slippage a good thing	[01:38]
MBS	well at least if the chick is decent looking	[01:38]
vragnaroda	jackyyll: Gribble doesn't ban unless an op tells it to.	[01:38]
jackyyll	i see	[01:39]
jackyyll	i wonder why he wont talk to me	[01:39]
rg	he probably is	[01:39]
rg	you just dont notice it somehow	[01:39]
coingenuity	one day, he might become sentient...	[01:39]
vragnaroda	It will ignore you for a time if you give it too many commands and it may just be lagging.	[01:39]
rg	its not lagging	[01:39]
rg	;;ticker	[01:39]
gribble	Best bid: 4.73641, Best ask: 4.7399, Bid-ask spread: 0.00349, Last trade: 4.73641, 24 hour volume: 56897, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.88	[01:39]
rg	;;asks 4.80	[01:39]
gribble	There are currently 3127.5836 bitcoins offered at or under 4.8 USD, worth 14930.1057986 USD in total.	[01:39]
chwergy	hey rg, you got BTC to sell?	[01:39]
vragnaroda	LOL, he and it, but I usually think of gribble as a she.	[01:39]
jackyyll	i have a query window open with him	[01:39]
jackyyll	so	[01:39]
rg	chwergy: i dont think so	[01:39]
vragnaroda	;;pet	[01:40]
gribble	purrrrrrrr	[01:40]
chwergy	ok	[01:40]
vragnaroda	jackyyll: I guess gribble just doesn't like you.	[01:40]
jackyyll	apparently so	[01:40]
nanotube	jackyyll: you do not appear to be on the ignore list. try joining #gribble and see if he responds to you in channel	[01:41]
nanotube	or ... she. heh	[01:41]
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jackyyll	nope.	[01:42]
stamit	it!	[01:42]
chwergy	;;rate bonks 1 Fast, PPUSD for BTC	[01:42]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bonks has been recorded.	[01:42]
stamit	;;echo don't call me "it"!	[01:43]
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jackyyll	wel that solves that mystery	[01:43]
neofutur	rg: more or less, working on http://namecoin.gw.gd/nmc_2011-06-09.php	[01:46]
neofutur	but ask on #bitcoin-hosting i ll answer with a timeout ;)	[01:46]
paulzag	;;ticker	[01:48]
LordCanti	anyone interested in selling BTC for $20 Moneypak?	[01:49]
nanotube	jackyyll: how did you end up with gribble on ignore? :)	[01:49]
coingenuity	lol	[01:49]
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mircea_popescu	poor gribble	[01:50]
jackyyll	nanotube: im not really usre lol	[01:50]
jackyyll	sure*	[01:50]
vragnaroda	lol	[01:51]
vragnaroda	putz	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	gribble means no harm	[01:51]
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MBS	;;seen mcorlett	[01:53]
chwergy	;;getrating LordCanti	[01:54]
gribble	User LordCanti, created on Sun Mar 18 22:27:09 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=LordCanti Currently authenticated from hostmask LordCanti!~MF@unaffiliated/lordcanti	[01:54]
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paulzag	Sublime_: you still buying?	[01:57]
paulzag	trading BTC now - buying and selling	[01:58]
paulzag	price depends on what you are using to pay, or how you want to be paid	[01:59]
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chwergy	;;rate LordCanti 1 Quick, PPUSD for BTC	[02:03]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user LordCanti has been recorded.	[02:03]
LordCanti	;;rate chwergy 1 sold me BTC for PPUSD, fast and easy	[02:03]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user chwergy has been recorded.	[02:03]
LordCanti	thanks again	[02:03]
chwergy	:)	[02:03]
chwergy	;;seen dsmouse	[02:04]
gribble	dsmouse was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 4 days, 1 hour, 33 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: good luck with 15k and no paper trail	[02:04]
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seco	chwergy and trading partners: be careful not to name anything about bitcoin towards PP: just shout here, and many users with frozen pp-accounts will popup telling you about the likes and dislikes of them with bitcoin :p	[02:05]
chwergy	yeah, i heard, thanks seco	[02:06]
LordCanti	seco, definitely.	[02:06]
seco	always tag it as gift for grandma ;)	[02:06]
chwergy	:P	[02:06]
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paulzag	Yep seco, happened to me yesterday. counterparty said "but I thought it wouldn't matter for $1"	[02:07]
paulzag	suddenly my PP account is flagged for review	[02:07]
*	seco remembers the time coinpal existed ;/	[02:07]
triptyl	frozen coin is the worst	[02:08]
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luke-jr	blah	[02:08]
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luke-jr	gnupg takes 30 mins then fails	[02:08]
seco	time to do a few ebay-transactions for paulzag :x	[02:08]
rg	must ... make ... text on bitvps darker!	[02:09]
chwergy	96 coins available for 4.5 on cavirtex.. good buy?	[02:09]
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vragnaroda	luke-jr: You still trying to generate the Goliath key?	[02:10]
rg	virtex gets you with fees	[02:10]
rg	big time	[02:10]
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triptyl	rg is cool	[02:10]
chwergy	cavirtex??	[02:10]
rg	so you usually dont end up saving more	[02:10]
rg	triptyl: this is kown'	[02:10]
rg	known	[02:10]
triptyl	killing chrome.exe has no effect. it only makes it stronger	[02:11]
rawrmage	lol	[02:11]
rg	unf i love our new box	[02:11]
rg	i cant believe how much better the software raid is	[02:11]
triptyl	what raid level you rollin wit?	[02:11]
rg	raid0 with backups up the wazooo	[02:12]
vigilyn	ssd?	[02:12]
triptyl	sweet	[02:12]
rg	no	[02:13]
rg	7.2k rpm sata	[02:13]
rg	the disks alone are pretty quick	[02:13]
rg	its not better than our SAS raid	[02:13]
rg	but its nice	[02:13]
vigilyn	i wish platter drives would reach pre-flood prices, damn oems	[02:14]
chwergy	Buying BTC for PPUSD	[02:14]
rg	where the funk is the text in this css	[02:15]
luke-jr	vragnaroda: gonna have to give up :<	[02:16]
brznbtni	ddd	[02:20]
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paulzag	chwergy: how many?	[02:22]
chwergy	erm	[02:23]
chwergy	lemme do some maths	[02:23]
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vragnaroda	luke-jr: Well, you could try a slightly smaller key size.	[02:25]
vragnaroda	(or get better hardware)	[02:25]
luke-jr	;;changekey	[02:25]
luke-jr	vragnaroda: can't get much better hardware…	[02:25]
vragnaroda	;;help changekey	[02:25]
gribble	(changekey []) -- Changes your GPG registered key to . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. Optional argument tells us where to get your public key. By default we look on pgp.mit.edu and pgp.surfnet.nl. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. You (1 more message)	[02:25]
vragnaroda	;;more	[02:25]
gribble	must be authenticated in order to use this command.	[02:25]
vragnaroda	;;help echangekey	[02:26]
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vragnaroda	nanotube: There's no echangekey?! :O	[02:26]
paulzag	;;ticker	[02:28]
gribble	Best bid: 4.70871, Best ask: 4.709, Bid-ask spread: 0.00029, Last trade: 4.70871, 24 hour volume: 58037, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.88	[02:28]
luke-jr	vragnaroda: my complaint exactly!	[02:29]
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triptyl	sup mangbro	[02:33]
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Latitude	I have a Vanilla Prepaid Debit Card with $55 and another one with $14 on it Can I trade someone for bitcoins?	[02:40]
Latitude	you can use the cards online like any normal debit card. The only limitation is I don't believe they are possible to add to a paypal account. Unless the merchant allows paypal w/ guest sign in.	[02:42]
nanotube	vragnaroda: lol yes there is not. not a very oft-used command, so i never got around to making the e-version. ;)	[02:44]
luke-jr	nanotube: like my new PGP key?	[02:44]
vragnaroda	nanotube: Has that command been around the whole time?	[02:44]
vragnaroda	;;ident luke-jr	[02:44]
gribble	Nick 'luke-jr', with hostmask 'luke-jr!~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49', is identified as user luke-jr, with GPG key id BD02942421F4889F, and key fingerprint E463A93F5F3117EEDE6C7316BD02942421F4889F.	[02:44]
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nanotube	vragnaroda: well, since before the e-commands days. :)	[02:45]
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gazabobo	hey guys got a question.	[02:45]
luke-jr	gazabobo: the answer is 42	[02:45]
gazabobo	is there a way to get btc with a credit card	[02:45]
splatster	here goes...	[02:45]
nanotube	luke-jr: went for 8192 eh? :)	[02:45]
splatster	No.	[02:45]
luke-jr	gazabobo: no	[02:45]
Joriaan	Hey, I need 1 BTC for, er, personal stuff. All I've got is paypal though, anyone willing to sell?	[02:45]
Joriaan	gazabobo, no, not at the moment.	[02:45]
luke-jr	nanotube: went for 16kbit first, but couldn't get one	[02:45]
gazabobo	ffs	[02:45]
gazabobo	:/	[02:46]
luke-jr	Joriaan: sounds illegal	[02:46]
Latitude	I'm looking to buy $50-65 in bitcoin	[02:46]
nanotube	luke-jr: yea i saw you mention something about gpg failing.	[02:46]
Joriaan	Well, I think VirWox takes credit card, actuall	[02:46]
Joriaan	actually*, but only in small amounts	[02:46]
luke-jr	Latitude: I'll offer 2 - 2.60 BTC ;)	[02:46]
vragnaroda	luke-jr: How much of a pain was it to tweak GPG to doing that?	[02:46]
Joriaan	How small, I'm not sure	[02:46]
luke-jr	vragnaroda: not much, considering I use Gentoo	[02:46]
gazabobo	ok ill check virwox	[02:46]
luke-jr	vragnaroda: just paused the install at compile, and hacked the max	[02:46]
gazabobo	is virwox hard to use or whatever?	[02:46]
Joriaan	its not pure cc>btc	[02:47]
Joriaan	You need to make a SecondLife account and verify it	[02:47]
Latitude	sorry luke-jr how do i send you a private message?	[02:47]
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Joriaan	Sign up at virwox	[02:47]
luke-jr	Latitude: /msg luke-jr	[02:47]
Joriaan	Buy some linden dollars with CC, then buy BTC with linden dollars	[02:47]
gazabobo	is it a simple process?	[02:47]
luke-jr	no	[02:47]
vragnaroda	luke-jr: It's just a single constant you had to change?	[02:47]
Joriaan	No idea, it shouldn't be THAT hard	[02:47]
luke-jr	vragnaroda: yes	[02:48]
gazabobo	what is a virwox avatar?	[02:48]
BTC_Bear	Like a xbox avatar	[02:49]
Joriaan	SecondLife avatar	[02:49]
Joriaan	Linden Dollars are SecondLife currency	[02:49]
Joriaan	You need a SecondLife account to hold the Linden Dollars. xD	[02:50]
Latitude	;;getrating luke-jr	[02:50]
Cory	luke-jr's finally going to make a deal? :)	[02:50]
neofutur	but you can create a SL avatar on the website without ever entering secondlife	[02:51]
gazabobo	wish there was a fucking simple way to use credit card online for btc	[02:51]
neofutur	and you dont ned to validate your SL avatar on virwox to be allowed to trade	[02:51]
gazabobo	neofutur	[02:51]
gazabobo	can u pm me pls	[02:51]
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gazabobo	so i can ask u for directions or whatever	[02:51]
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Joriaan	The reasoning against allowing CC is because of the potential for fraud	[02:52]
Joriaan	Same as why noone takes paypal	[02:52]
Joriaan	>.>	[02:52]
neofutur	gazabobo: nop sorry, no time for it	[02:52]
luke-jr	Joriaan: nah, paypal is worse	[02:53]
gazabobo	oh. :(	[02:53]
Joriaan	Anyone willing to send me 1 BTC? I can pay via paypal... :D	[02:53]
Joriaan	luke-jr: Its the same reason though. :P	[02:53]
luke-jr	Joriaan: not really	[02:53]
luke-jr	Joriaan: PayPal explicitly forbids it	[02:53]
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Joriaan	Ah, forgot about that part. I was just thinking about chargebacks. But its easy enough to say "buying Beats" or some other item around the same price	[02:54]
seco	isnt it possible to fund neteller, or okpay with creditcard, and then paysafecard-pin here, or btcnow.net/ok ?	[02:54]
rory1	Hi please can you tell me were i can downoad the bitcoin block chain and how to install it ??	[02:54]
seco	rory1: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/bitcoin_blockchain_170000.zip	[02:55]
Joriaan	rory1: http://bitcoin.org?	[02:55]
Joriaan	Ah, nevermind then	[02:55]
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rory1	thankyou	[02:55]
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BTC_Bear	Joriaan: What do you need 1 BTC for?	[02:55]
seco	how to install it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/README.txt/download	[02:56]
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Joriaan	I want to go by an ebook. Its actually .35 BTC, but yeah. The guy only takes BTC, all I have is paypal	[02:56]
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BTC_Bear	Have you used BTC before?	[02:57]
rory1	Thank you seco and Joriaan	[02:57]
BTC_Bear	Joriaan: post an address, I'll send you the .35 btc	[02:58]
seco	Joriaan: or bitcoin-otc?; you are welcome rory1: just ask if you have further problems :-) remember to keep the bitcoin client closed while you replace the blockchain files!	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	i was about to offer the guy his .35 btc lol. BTC_Bear beats me to it!	[02:58]
seco	let him setup account at btc-otc to use in future for his .35 ;)	[02:58]
seco	guess i would have been the most expensive one :D	[02:59]
Joriaan	I know How to use it, just not much actual experience. xD	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	lol seco that's an ideea	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	still need more betatesters for mpex! any volunteers ? lotsa gpg involved!	[03:00]
pigeons	hey Joriaan, where is this ebook?	[03:00]
Joriaan	1FgLCQpnsk6yJVQaHg8XU6tonMtUJW32MU	[03:00]
Joriaan	pigeons, its on HackBB, one second	[03:01]
rg	you can download the blockchain from us1.bitvps.com/blockchain	[03:02]
BTC_Bear	Joriaan: sent	[03:02]
rory1	thanks	[03:02]
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Joriaan	Thanks a Bunch. I owe you one	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	I have entered into a partnership to purchase a 2 year old Louisiana-bred thoroughbred filly with the intent on racing her in Louisiana.	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	the stuff people put on glbse...	[03:02]
BTC_Bear	Joriaan: That's another story... First born, please.	[03:03]
Joriaan	xD	[03:03]
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chwergy	oin #bitcoin-minecraft	[03:05]
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rg	;;ticker	[03:06]
gribble	Best bid: 4.70491, Best ask: 4.7089, Bid-ask spread: 0.00399, Last trade: 4.709, 24 hour volume: 62245, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.88	[03:06]
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Joriaan	bitcoin... minecraft?	[03:08]
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Joriaan	pigeons: http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1108	[03:09]
Joric	more likely bitcoin-ponies	[03:09]
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copumpkin	that hackbb has me singing a whole new world	[03:11]
splatster	copumpkin: ?	[03:12]
pigeons	alladin	[03:12]
Joriaan	^^	[03:12]
Joric	Joriaan, why they need those paypal accounts? do they earn on refunds?	[03:12]
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BTCHero	holy shit guys i accidentally took 250mg of xanax the other day	[03:13]
pigeons	zzzzz	[03:14]
BTCHero	for over 24 hours	[03:14]
rawrmage	BTCHero: um	[03:14]
rawrmage	BTCHero: you may have a small benzodiazepine problem	[03:15]
BTCHero	nope, first time. Thought it was something else	[03:15]
BTCHero	err not first time, but first time in months	[03:15]
rawrmage	i hope you don't get withdrawl from that	[03:15]
rawrmage	i hear benzodiazepine withdrawl is pretty bad	[03:15]
copumpkin	*withdrawal	[03:15]
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BTCHero	yeah, it can kill you	[03:15]
Joriaan	Eh, I'm starting a little investment thing, I need to figure out how to cashout paypal as part of my method, all I'm going to say for now	[03:15]
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rawrmage	copumpkin: it's my drawl	[03:15]
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BTCHero	but it was just once	[03:15]
Joriaan	And if it tells me what I think, I might start up a paypal, creditcard, and several other ecurrency exchange	[03:16]
rawrmage	BTCHero: 'just once'!	[03:16]
rawrmage	what would your mother think!	[03:16]
BTCHero	"just say once"	[03:16]
Joriaan	I know a guy that goes by the name Benzodiazepine	[03:17]
BTCHero	Last time i get benzo powder in the mail, when i am expecting other powders	[03:17]
BTCHero	but the ld50 is outrageous so no real danger	[03:17]
rawrmage	oh you	[03:18]
rawrmage	buying white powders	[03:18]
BTCHero	Also just for the record everything I am saying is a complete lie	[03:18]
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Joric	life's good let's have fun and post mtgox codes in the channel	[03:19]
rawrmage	BTCHero: hahaha	[03:19]
BTCHero	I don't have mtgox monies, and vrag bans you for it	[03:20]
NASDAQEnema	LTC auction for chewing gum closed.	[03:20]
rawrmage	lol	[03:20]
NASDAQEnema	30.1 LTCs	[03:20]
BTCHero	I have a few hundred ltc, can i get some of that bubble gum by the foot or whatever they call it	[03:21]
vragnaroda	BTCHero: Dude, STFU. If people post them ad nauseam and 3 out of 4 lines are either MTGOX codes or complaints about them, it's too much.	[03:22]
vragnaroda	I've never banned for posting a code.	[03:22]
BTCHero	sorry kicked	[03:22]
vragnaroda	I've kicked people for being gay about it.	[03:22]
BTCHero	damn dude wtf is your problem	[03:23]
BTCHero	you are usually nice to me	[03:23]
nanotube	omg vragnaroda did you just insult gay people? ⨀_⨀	[03:23]
vragnaroda	nanotube: Yes, but not homosexuals. ;p	[03:23]
imsaguy	vragnaroda's covering up his homosexuality by gay bashing.	[03:24]
BTCHero	hes just looking for his favorite pair of pumps in the back of the closet	[03:24]
imsaguy	as a side bar	[03:24]
g04	how do you know you took 250mg btw?	[03:24]
imsaguy	why don't you ever hear about homosexuality bashing in the news?	[03:24]
vragnaroda	BTCHero: Not trying to be mean. Just don't like misconceptions like that. ;)	[03:24]
imsaguy	why's it gotta be gay bashing?	[03:24]
imsaguy	and why isn't there lesbian bashing?	[03:25]
vragnaroda	imsaguy: Because reporters are gay.	[03:25]
BTCHero	lesbians are cool	[03:25]
imsaguy	BTCHero: some, not all.	[03:25]
imsaguy	Some lesbians just scare me.	[03:25]
BTCHero	i mean porn lesbians my bad	[03:25]
BTCHero	not the real life ugly ones	[03:25]
Joriaan	xD	[03:25]
imsaguy	if they are real lesbians, they aren't going to want to have sex with you.	[03:25]
g04	BTCHero: how do you know you took 250mg?	[03:25]
imsaguy	just saying.	[03:25]
BTCHero	g04 thats what it was sold to me as, but i had another powder on the way i thought it was	[03:26]
g04	and you took all of it? lol	[03:26]
BTCHero	Then i fell asleep for over 24 hours so im guessing it was legit	[03:26]
BTCHero	yeah i thought it was something else	[03:26]
nanotube	vragnaroda: heh nice save.	[03:26]
g04	if it's from whom im thinking it's from (only person i can think that sells pure alprazolam) then 250mg would have been one helluva right	[03:27]
BTCHero	sooo about them bitcoins....	[03:27]
g04	ride*	[03:27]
BTCHero	fucking worthless	[03:28]
Joriaan	Lol	[03:28]
Joriaan	I remember someone buying a pizza for 120k	[03:28]
Joriaan	reading about someone*	[03:28]
g04	i thought it was 20k	[03:28]
BTCHero	I wouldn't call it a ride. Just a really long sleep	[03:28]
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nanotube	10k coins for the pizza	[03:28]
BTCHero	and groggy next day	[03:28]
g04	btchero: just be happy it wasn't phenazepam or somethign else with a long half life	[03:28]
Joriaan	Oh, I guess I misread then. xD	[03:29]
g04	you'd probably still be sleeping or completely out of it	[03:29]
g04	i wish i would have gotten coins when they were cheap	[03:29]
BTCHero	I know, my girlfriend was about to call the squad because she was shaking me and i wouldn't respond	[03:29]
g04	well i guess they are cheap now in comparison	[03:29]
BTCHero	glad she didn't	[03:29]
BTCHero	So who is selling small trinkets i want?	[03:30]
BTCHero	;;view	[03:30]
gribble	#7293 Sun Mar 18 11:54:37 2012 BTCHero BUY 1.0 Troy Ounce Silver @ 1 BTC (I will buy .999 pure silver for up to 5 dollars over spot with shipping included for market rate in bitcoins)	[03:30]
Joric	'A break above this level could open up an accelerated rally and lead to at leat a test of the all-time-high at 32 $' -- S3052	[03:30]
Joriaan	So nobody wants to buy me pizza? Is the bitcoin amount I'm offering too low?	[03:30]
Joric	8-O better sell everything	[03:30]
Joriaan	._.	[03:30]
Joric	http://fucknoguy.jpg.to/	[03:31]
nanotube	Joriaan: what amount are you offering? :)	[03:31]
BTCHero	So s3052 is sad his coins are worthless and wants people to buy?	[03:31]
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arij	any one selling LR	[03:32]
Joriaan	nanotube: xD It was a post from the thread	[03:32]
Joriaan	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0	[03:32]
Joric	BTCHero, the only thing s3052 has teached me always do the opposite to what he says	[03:32]
draco49	http://pastebin.com/DhLUBBGt	[03:32]
nanotube	Joriaan: ah hehe yea	[03:33]
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BTCHero	Joric how do you do the oposite of it might go up might go down?	[03:34]
BTCHero	do nothing?	[03:34]
Joriaan	I wish I invested in BTC 2 years ago	[03:34]
BTCHero	hindsight is 20/20	[03:34]
rawrmage	lol	[03:34]
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Joriaan	^^	[03:34]
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BTCHero	you're going to wish you bought in 2012 soon :)	[03:34]
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Joric	BTCHero, well he's clearly says buy now http://www.bitcoinbullbear.com	[03:35]
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Joric	'Most probably, the major Elliott Wave III has started, which should propel prices higher and lead first to 7.22'	[03:36]
Joriaan	BTCHero: I don't have very much cash to buy, so I'm going to do the next best thing: Get rich off exchanging! xD	[03:36]
Joric	'A break above this level could open up an accelerated rally and lead to at leat a test of the all-time-high'	[03:36]
BTCHero	I get small sums from loaning out my bitcoins	[03:36]
BTCHero	it seems to be working well	[03:36]
Joric	i think we're heading to all-time-low	[03:37]
BTCHero	below 2.30?	[03:37]
Joriaan	I want to open up an exchange that does more than just "secure" e-currencies. I want to be able to take paypal and CC, instead of just LR and BTC, and such	[03:37]
h4ckm3	hey dudes, I have a question: I have backed up all my wallets regularly and regularly I check them. However today when I loaded a backed up wallet file the balance show zero and it is not encrypted, the addresses that I generated are there but none of the transactions?	[03:38]
BTCHero	Joriaan thats a stupid idea	[03:38]
nanotube	Joriaan: it's a nice desire... but how will you deal with chargebacks.	[03:38]
Joriaan	I know you think that	[03:38]
h4ckm3	blockexplorer shows the correct balance for the address	[03:38]
Joriaan	Simple	[03:38]
Joriaan	For PP/CC, it isn't instant	[03:38]
Joriaan	I withdraw from the paypal before sending the currency	[03:38]
BTCHero	but if you get a chargeback they take it straight from you bank account	[03:39]
Joriaan	This is why I need that eBook	[03:39]
nanotube	BTCHero: no they can't do that. but they'll give you a negative balance	[03:39]
BTCHero	its not like they say "ooops lost some money, oh well"	[03:39]
nanotube	so next time you receive some money, it'll go toward your neg balance, and you won't be able to withdraw.	[03:39]
Joriaan	Well, want that ebook	[03:39]
nanotube	so unless you want to keep switching paypal accounts... it won't last.	[03:39]
BTCHero	I heard if it goes long enough they do. Am i mistaken?	[03:39]
Joriaan	I remember somone getting invoices and billing statements from paypal	[03:40]
nanotube	BTCHero: you must be, dipping into your bank account without your permission would be illegal.	[03:40]
gmaxwell	nanotube: they got your permission when they linked the account	[03:40]
Joriaan	^	[03:40]
nanotube	anyway, that is all even besides the fact that official tos of paypal says trading bitcoin is illegal.	[03:40]
nanotube	gmaxwell: no, they got your permission to send money that you ask them to send.	[03:40]
nanotube	not to take any old money that they want.	[03:40]
BTCHero	ill send you some money and charge it back to test ok nanotube?	[03:40]
nanotube	BTCHero: haha no thanks.	[03:41]
Joriaan	xD	[03:41]
BTCHero	nanotube it doesn't matter that you owe them money?	[03:41]
Cusipzzz	h4ckm3: try running it with the -rescan flag	[03:41]
Joriaan	Well, it involves temporary paypals and a relatively simple cashout method.	[03:41]
nanotube	Joriaan: see what happened with coinpal - it was doing fine, he was running a bunch of safety check and fraud level was low, but they closed him down because they suddenly decided bitcoin was against tos.	[03:41]
Joriaan	xD	[03:42]
Joriaan	I'm actually quite curious as to how coinpal worked	[03:42]
Cusipzzz	coinpal worked, until it didn't.	[03:42]
Joriaan	and I'll be circumnavigating Tos	[03:42]
Joriaan	I mean his fraud checks	[03:42]
nanotube	BTCHero: no. can you go and just take money from your neighbor's bank account if he owes you money? no, not legally. if he refuses to give you money, you can take him to court, but you can't just unilaterally go and steal money from him back.	[03:42]
BTCHero	So why don't we all just chargeback each other and keep the money?	[03:43]
pigeons	i need to write an ebook to sell Joriaan the secrets of being a rich bitchoiner	[03:43]
nanotube	Joriaan: not sure... there was waiting period, max amounts, address/phone checks, etc... bunch of stuff.	[03:43]
Joriaan	Ah. Well if all goes to plan, all it involves are waiting periods and high feels for PP/CC transactions	[03:43]
Joriaan	fees*	[03:43]
nanotube	BTCHero: yea i think you need to walk through that idea step by step and figure out where extra money will come from. :D	[03:43]
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h4ckm3	will do ty	[03:44]
h4ckm3	Cusipzzz, ty	[03:44]
LordCanti	Isn't that kinda what happens here anyway?	[03:44]
Joriaan	And actually, I'm doing this little "investment" thing on another site	[03:44]
BTCHero	I can't think, I think the xanax powder still has ahold of me	[03:44]
Joriaan	People send me paypal,I cash out, they chargeback, and I pay them half of what I cashout	[03:44]
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Joriaan	The hard part is cashing out	[03:44]
nanotube	heh well, good luck...	[03:45]
BTCHero	Joriaan good luck	[03:45]
Joriaan	xD Thanks	[03:45]
BTCHero	lol	[03:45]
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LordCanti	nanotube: what you're saying is morally correct, but I think something in the ToS allows them to charge your account pretty much whenever they feel	[03:45]
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Joriaan	I remember reading	[03:45]
pigeons	this plan sounds foolproof	[03:45]
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LordCanti	I'm now interested so I'm going to do some google fu	[03:46]
nanotube	LordCanti: well, if that is the case, i have not heard of that occurring.	[03:46]
Cusipzzz	pigeons: lol	[03:46]
LeXLuther422	Hi all again been a while	[03:46]
nanotube	LordCanti: all that is iirc from some old google-fu i did :)	[03:46]
Joriaan	That if a buyer wants to do something (I believe its file a dispute, it might be seller) then they automatically give paypal permission to deduct funds from the bank	[03:46]
BTCHero	I sem to remember that they said if i didn't bring the balance back to zero they would do it automatically, but i have shit memory	[03:46]
nanotube	maybe these things change...	[03:46]
LordCanti	perhaps your goog-fu is stronger than mine	[03:46]
Joriaan	Note, this was in the TOS when I was looking into disputes	[03:46]
LordCanti	next I shall try my Tiger-Claw technique!	[03:47]
nanotube	well, take a gander and see what you find :)	[03:47]
luke-jr	LordCanti: ToS aren't always legal	[03:47]
*	copumpkin takes a goose instead	[03:47]
nanotube	no, leave my goose alone you hear!	[03:47]
nanotube	:P	[03:47]
BTCHero	Sue paypal. Have fun with that	[03:47]
gmaxwell	copumpkin: but you know— whats good for the goose is good for the gander.	[03:47]
*	copumpkin has the golden goose	[03:47]
BTCHero	ill donate 10btc	[03:47]
BTCHero	you just need about 1000000 more	[03:47]
nanotube	heh	[03:47]
LeXLuther422	what do you all think a Casascius bitcoin is worth now I am supprised to see them for $30 on ebay	[03:48]
DeLorean719	wtf is this 4.70 bs	[03:48]
pigeons	LeXLuther422: completed sold auctions?	[03:48]
nanotube	LeXLuther422: apparently, then, it is worth $30. to some people at least. :)	[03:48]
LeXLuther422	no current lets see if I can find compleated	[03:48]
pigeons	shit i took the sticker off and redeemed a bunch when i needed money	[03:48]
luke-jr	anyone want to help me test Bitcoin-Qt?	[03:48]
BTCHero	can you still buy those silver round casascius coins?	[03:49]
nanotube	luke-jr: what do you need?	[03:49]
luke-jr	nanotube: I need people to send me bitcoins	[03:49]
BTCHero	and where, besides ebay	[03:49]
nanotube	luke-jr: how many?	[03:49]
luke-jr	nanotube: lots of tiny txns	[03:49]
copumpkin	luke-jr: tell me where	[03:49]
BTCHero	ill send you one	[03:49]
BTCHero	er like .01	[03:49]
nanotube	define tiny, and define lots :)	[03:49]
luke-jr	copumpkin: 1EPyxH3cq4K6Zk6NNLwnMC5Pa3LiwLPuXu (any sends to this address get returned to copumpkin only!)	[03:49]
luke-jr	nanotube: enough to trigger a rare race condition :P	[03:50]
luke-jr	also, I need the txid of each one	[03:50]
luke-jr	out of band	[03:50]
LordCanti	I'm seeing a lot of forum chatter, people claiming paypal deducted from their account without permission, but not actual proof	[03:50]
LordCanti	yet	[03:50]
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nanotube	LordCanti: heh hot on the trail!	[03:50]
BTCHero	d133a5b00080be1f5c26a1e38afbb452777f6297b78e6a7107675ee38d3bc65c	[03:51]
LordCanti	of course you can't search their ToS page	[03:51]
Joriaan	yet	[03:51]
nanotube	luke-jr: ok pm me an addr and ill send you a dozen .01s or something	[03:51]
LordCanti	that's scummy on it's own	[03:51]
luke-jr	copumpkin: 4 so far?	[03:51]
LordCanti	its*	[03:51]
BTCHero	sent .01337	[03:51]
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Joriaan	(09:56:03 PM) luke-jr: nanotube: enough to trigger a rare race condition :P	[03:51]
Joriaan	Whats the rare race condition?	[03:51]
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copumpkin	luke-jr: I'm too busy abusing my bitcoin GUI	[03:51]
luke-jr	Joriaan: once in a while, Bitcoin-Qt doesn't show the txn	[03:51]
copumpkin	luke-jr: I'll give you the txn ids in a bit	[03:51]
luke-jr	copumpkin: it's possibly time-sensitive btw :P	[03:51]
Joriaan	Whats the upside to that?	[03:52]
copumpkin	oh, so I should automate it :(	[03:52]
luke-jr	Joriaan: what upside?	[03:52]
Joriaan	Or downside?	[03:52]
luke-jr	Joriaan: you don't see your funds until you restart	[03:52]
BTCHero	Transaction ID: 37734803440b0eb96f054ade515a921c9462c3667982d4fe65a749b9c5eb18b8	[03:52]
pigeons	ask artforz for the "duster"	[03:52]
Joriaan	Why would someone want to trigger it?	[03:52]
pigeons	to fix it Joriaan	[03:52]
copumpkin	http://blockchain.info/address/1EPyxH3cq4K6Zk6NNLwnMC5Pa3LiwLPuXu should have all the transaction IDs in it	[03:52]
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copumpkin	luke-jr: should I keep going?	[03:52]
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Joriaan	Oh, that makes sense. xD	[03:53]
luke-jr	copumpkin: yeah, those are all listed :<	[03:53]
luke-jr	good idea on the blockchain.info ;)	[03:53]
copumpkin	what if I do a multi-send to your address multiple times?	[03:53]
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copumpkin	will the client try to outsmart me?	[03:53]
pigeons	if you get irc in prison Joriaan, tell us how the ebook worked	[03:53]
luke-jr	copumpkin: it probably won't trigger it any better	[03:53]
copumpkin	but it won't be any worse, will it?	[03:54]
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Joriaan	xD What if I do well?	[03:54]
pigeons	don't worry	[03:54]
copumpkin	gah	[03:54]
luke-jr	Joriaan: 13N1b4iLRgfmSjwXXLZ36GgStQZiiZ1LV1	[03:54]
copumpkin	it checks for duplicates in a sendmulti	[03:54]
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copumpkin	that blockchain.info site is good	[03:55]
copumpkin	it's updating in realtime	[03:55]
rawrmage	good drugs	[03:55]
luke-jr	that's annoying :p	[03:56]
Joriaan	sugurd doog	[03:56]
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LordCanti	copumpkin: have you used the wallet service on blockchain.info?	[03:57]
copumpkin	nope	[03:57]
LordCanti	some people were touting it as a replacement for instawallet	[03:57]
LordCanti	their site is slick, but it's difficult to put trust in another company	[03:57]
*	subpar nods	[03:58]
Joriaan	Right now I use StrongCoin. I don't like fees though. <,<	[03:58]
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BTCHero	blockchain.info charges fees	[03:58]
BTCHero	and they messed up some txn of mine that i had to email to fix	[03:58]
finway	How to turn this msg off ? Joric_ [~joric@unaffiliated/joric] has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:58]
LordCanti	ohhh really	[03:58]
Joriaan	Is instawallet any good?	[03:58]
BTCHero	i like it, but it just changed hands	[03:59]
LordCanti	I've been using it without any issues Joriaan	[03:59]
copumpkin	luke-jr: I guess I should keep going? :P	[03:59]
LordCanti	and that	[03:59]
luke-jr	copumpkin: if you don't mind	[03:59]
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copumpkin	nah, it's fine	[03:59]
cakes1000	cool bro	[03:59]
Joriaan	What about fees? And What are the possibly issues with the ownership change?	[03:59]
nanotube	finway: don't think you can, on webchat.	[03:59]
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LordCanti	currently no fees, but the smallest amount you can transact is 0.01BTC	[03:59]
Joriaan	Well I wish I knew about this about an hour ago. xD	[04:00]
seco	finway: first of all start using a normal irc-client; then you can google for disable join messages on channel-view; with irc-webclients you can be happy to be able to chat or even use query-windows :p	[04:00]
LordCanti	I used it as an address for one of those fountain sites but realized I couldn't transfer it out haha	[04:00]
luke-jr	someone should make a vanitygen for QR-Codes…	[04:00]
Joriaan	The BTC client is buggy when running tails (read: Doesn't work at all) so I needed a nice ewallet. xD	[04:01]
Joriaan	What, so people can draw their own QR codes	[04:01]
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Joriaan	?	[04:01]
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vragnaroda	gribble: Fuck you.	[04:01]
luke-jr	Joriaan: yes	[04:01]
finway	seco, thanks.	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	http://www.blockchain.info/stats fascinating this page.	[04:01]
finway	nanotube, got it	[04:02]
rawrmage	vragnaroda: lol	[04:02]
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Joriaan	The thing is, isn't the QR code based on a pattern of what it is encoding?	[04:02]
rawrmage	;;eauth rawrmage	[04:02]
vragnaroda	rawrmage: I just reconnected and it does that shit. :(	[04:02]
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vragnaroda	Also, it's lagging like crazy now.	[04:02]
luke-jr	Joriaan: ?	[04:02]
*	seco feels so session-terminated :p	[04:02]
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Joriaan	The pattern in the QR code is based on what is being encoded	[04:03]
vragnaroda	;;voiceme	[04:03]
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vragnaroda	;;gpg stats	[04:03]
gribble	There are 3536 registered users, 1 currently authenticated. There are also 1 pending authentication requests.	[04:03]
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vragnaroda	Woohoo! I'm #1! I'm #1!	[04:03]
luke-jr	copumpkin: OK, let's give up :p	[04:03]
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luke-jr	copumpkin: where do I send it back?	[04:03]
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seco	vrag thats easy if you pulled the cable on your own :D	[04:04]
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copumpkin	luke-jr: no need, all the amounts were so tiny that I don't really care :P	[04:04]
vragnaroda	seco: wut	[04:04]
luke-jr	fine	[04:04]
vragnaroda	;;gpg stats	[04:04]
gribble	There are 3536 registered users, 3 currently authenticated. There are also 0 pending authentication requests.	[04:04]
vragnaroda	Who snuck in?!	[04:04]
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copumpkin	wat	[04:04]
rawrmage	:3	[04:04]
copumpkin	only 3 authenticated?	[04:04]
vragnaroda	;;ident copumpkin	[04:05]
gribble	Nick 'copumpkin', with hostmask 'copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin', is not identified.	[04:05]
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copumpkin	fine, fine	[04:05]
Joric_	i'm not that into QR codes but you may draw your own logo if it will not exceed 30% of area	[04:05]
vragnaroda	;;ident nanotube	[04:05]
gribble	Nick 'nanotube', with hostmask 'nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube', is identified as user nanotube, with GPG key id E7F938BEC95594B2, and key fingerprint D8B11AAC59A873B0F38D475CE7F938BEC95594B2.	[04:05]
vragnaroda	;;gpg stats	[04:05]
gribble	There are 3536 registered users, 3 currently authenticated. There are also 0 pending authentication requests.	[04:05]
vragnaroda	Aha!	[04:05]
nanotube	copumpkin: gribble just had a connection hiccup.	[04:05]
copumpkin	oh	[04:05]
nanotube	vragnaroda: :)	[04:05]
copumpkin	;;gpg stats	[04:05]
gribble	There are 3536 registered users, 4 currently authenticated. There are also 0 pending authentication requests.	[04:05]
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Joric_	http://www.racoindustries.com/barcodegenerator/2d/qr-code.aspx version 05 correction level H (BBC used that)	[04:05]
copumpkin	whee!	[04:05]
Joriaan	luke-jr: http://vanity-qrcode.com	[04:05]
vragnaroda	;;ident copumpkin	[04:05]
gribble	Nick 'copumpkin', with hostmask 'copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin', is identified as user copumpkin, with GPG key id 1AF929469280FBD6, and key fingerprint C275212F15F29AB8FB97E5F51AF929469280FBD6.	[04:05]
seco	i mean its like that old example where ircopers announce roflcopter flying against chanlist and pull-out the link-cable ;)	[04:05]
copumpkin	does the blockchain.info guy come on IRC?	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	i'd like to know that too	[04:06]
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vragnaroda	luke-jr: What exactly did you have to tweak in gnupg?	[04:07]
rg	hell yea ill except the charges	[04:07]
chwergy	Buying BTC for PPUSD! :)	[04:07]
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mircea_popescu	so anyone can point me to an autoauth with gribble script ?	[04:07]
rawrmage	9no	[04:07]
LordCanti	easywallet.org is another instawallet clone	[04:08]
LordCanti	this is more like a direct clone though	[04:08]
nanotube	vragnaroda: there's just one line to change the max-key. you can find the exact line on google.	[04:08]
nanotube	i think	[04:08]
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cakes1000	anyone using my wallet	[04:08]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: depends on your client. there are a bunch in the ,,code repo under gpg/helperscripts	[04:08]
gribble	Source code to gribble's bitcoin-related plugins: https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor	[04:08]
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vragnaroda	mircea_popescu: curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/B594FD658613B519 \| gpg -d \| xclip -i -selection clipboard	[04:08]
cakes1000	https://blockchain.info/wallet	[04:08]
vragnaroda	mircea_popescu: Change that to your keyid. ;)	[04:09]
copumpkin	cakes1000: you're zoot reeves?	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	lol ok. ty.	[04:09]
nanotube	or that. :)	[04:09]
nanotube	copumpkin: i doubt it :)	[04:09]
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Joric	oh, blockchain.info wallet is now free of charge https://blockchain.info/wallet/faq	[04:09]
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mod6	if vrags cmd isnt in the wiki, it should be probably.	[04:10]
nanotube	mod6: it is	[04:10]
mod6	ok :)	[04:10]
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BTC_Bear	wget version to I believe	[04:10]
vragnaroda	Meh, curl's better. :D	[04:10]
Joriaan	Its fwee?	[04:11]
pigeons	a free wallet? is it as good as mybitcoin?	[04:11]
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mod6	ahh good. i keep meaning to paste that to the new guys since that part seems to be a challenge.	[04:11]
Joric	pigeons, bruce wagner recommends blockchain.info now	[04:11]
neofutur	wget version :	[04:11]
nanotube	anyone who cares enough to use curl, is smart enough to s/wget/curl/ in the command :)	[04:11]
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neofutur	rm -f DF76B78C690B4E07; wget http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/DF76B78C690B4E07; gpg -d DF76B78C690B4E07	[04:11]
neofutur	if someone ewants to add it	[04:11]
vragnaroda	mircea_popescu: You may not have xclip by default, though.	[04:12]
nanotube	neofutur: a wget version is already there.	[04:12]
neofutur	k	[04:12]
nanotube	also, no need for the temporary file, you can just wget to stdout, then pipe to gpg.	[04:12]
vragnaroda	Wtf, why would you save a copy of it.	[04:12]
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enyawix	would not work on a LAMP based site anyway	[04:12]
seco	neofutur: wget -O - http://... to pipe it directly to stdout without file	[04:13]
vragnaroda	seco: Or curl, which behaves the way a *nix command-line utility ought to. :p	[04:13]
nanotube	vragnaroda: probably simply because you are not aware of "-O -" option. :)	[04:13]
seco	the problem about curl is: sometimes you have to install it; wget is on all base systems ...just for the lazy hardened folks ;)	[04:14]
Someguy123	sweet fuck... aftereffects uses a LOT of ram	[04:14]
Someguy123	o_O	[04:14]
vragnaroda	nanotube: No, I'm aware of it. The assumption shouldn't be creating a new file, though. The default should be piping.	[04:14]
Someguy123	it's using 5gb rendering a 2 minute clip	[04:14]
vragnaroda	seco: That's not true.	[04:14]
nanotube	vragnaroda: i was answering your question of "why would you ..." so i used the same generalized 'you' :)	[04:14]
vragnaroda	$ wget	[04:14]
vragnaroda	bash: wget: command not found	[04:14]
neofutur	seco: thanks	[04:15]
vragnaroda	nanotube: Oh, right. :)	[04:15]
pigeons	curl http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wget/wget-1.13.tar.gz	[04:15]
neofutur	im my mind the default is fast and simple when i dont need to optimize	[04:16]
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pigeons	much better with the -O	[04:16]
neofutur	no doubt	[04:16]
rawrmage	sudo emerge wget	[04:16]
seco	vragnaroda: the onus of proof lies on your side to show me all unix-derivates have curl installed; at least the embedded devices out there with busybox dont have curl, but wget hiding	[04:17]
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rawrmage	seco: lol	[04:17]
pigeons	perl -MLWP::Simple	[04:18]
rawrmage	don't you think this argument is a bit ridiculous	[04:18]
seco	i just support the lazyness: why install another package with potential deps if base is enough ;-)	[04:18]
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vragnaroda	seco: “All unix-derivatives have curl” is not the opposite of “wget is on all base systems”	[04:19]
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seco	;)	[04:20]
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Joric	what should i do if i use windows?	[04:20]
rawrmage	install linux?	[04:20]
splatster	^	[04:20]
seco	foget about it :p	[04:20]
rawrmage	nah	[04:20]
rawrmage	i think there's a mirc thingy	[04:21]
rawrmage	to auth	[04:21]
splatster	seco: We never forget. NEVER.	[04:21]
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cakes1000	wow, using the plunget on the kitchen sink actually worked	[04:22]
cakes1000	plunger rather	[04:22]
LordCanti	INSTALL GENTOO	[04:22]
rawrmage	well they make plungers for a reason...	[04:22]
pigeons	GNU/Hurd	[04:22]
rawrmage	LordCanti: is that a meme	[04:22]
splatster	cakes1000: How is this relevant to #bitcoin-otc?	[04:22]
LordCanti	yes	[04:22]
vragnaroda	3pigtrolololol	[04:23]
Joric	ginstall intoo	[04:23]
seco	LordCanti: and start building cli where others already have gui :D	[04:23]
vragnaroda	I don't know where that 3 came from but that should have begun with pigeons:	[04:23]
cakes1000	looks like i dont need the liquid plumr after all	[04:23]
splatster	cakes1000: You are dodging my question.	[04:24]
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mircea_popescu	meh, the bottleneck is still my longass passphrase	[04:24]
rawrmage	lol	[04:24]
vragnaroda	splatster: If he's ignoring you, don't try to pester him.	[04:25]
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vragnaroda	Cablesaurus: Your fly's down.	[04:25]
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cakes1000	it would be nice if chrome supported javascript code signing	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	i dont trust js gpg	[04:29]
cakes1000	then you could use a javascript wallet without wondering if the code was changed	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	you'd just wonder if the code verification was working.	[04:30]
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cakes1000	if the code is open source, and your browser tells you the hash is the same as the published version, youre cool	[04:31]
Joriaan	Studying calc, bye peeps	[04:31]
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mircea_popescu	chrome wasn't open soruce last i looked ?	[04:33]
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pigeons	the open source project is called chromium	[04:34]
pigeons	which confusingly is the same name as the google netbook os project	[04:35]
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cakes1000	anyway the blockchain guy is known, unlike the nom de plume tom williams. he seems legit to me	[04:37]
smickles	;;seen splatster	[04:37]
splatster	ohai, smickles	[04:38]
pigeons	probably, but having a "legit" operator isn't the only reason not to use an online wallet for most use cases	[04:39]
LordCanti	nanotube: you might be right, I can't find official PP docs that say they will take money out of your bank account for a chargeback	[04:41]
LordCanti	it looks like they are claiming all chargebacks occur through credit card companies, not through them	[04:42]
LordCanti	unless I'm reading the wrong documents	[04:43]
LordCanti	they should have a single, searchable document for this stuff	[04:43]
cakes1000	yeah they can take it all	[04:44]
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cakes1000	theyre thieves	[04:45]
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splatster	smickles and I need to come up with a proper name for our upcoming bitcoin investment fund on GLBSE. I'm not that great when it comes to thinking up names so I need your help. Anyone have any ideas?	[04:45]
Cory	What's the fund going to invest in?	[04:46]
splatster	Bitcoin lending institutions, Cory.	[04:46]
splatster	It comes with some guarantees to protect agains default and the like.	[04:47]
splatster	Or as copumpkin described them, various types of shit hitting the fan.	[04:47]
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cakes1000	"When you receive a payment, you are liable to PayPal for the full amount of the payment sent to you plus any Fees if the payment is later invalidated for any reason...If there are insufficient funds in your Balance to cover your liability, you agree to reimburse PayPal through other means."	[04:47]
splatster	Cory: In other words, no matter how you slice it, it would likely be safer to invest in the fund than doing the investing on your own.	[04:48]
BTC_Bear	BDIC	[04:48]
LordCanti	hmm, that might be enough, cakes1000	[04:48]
jjjrmy-m	nigga please	[04:48]
BTC_Bear	as opposed to FDIC	[04:48]
cakes1000	paypal be some thieves yo	[04:48]
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Cory	splatster: Exclusively lending institutions?	[04:49]
splatster	BTC_Bear: We don't insure in the same way the FDIC does. Our primary goal is to generate a positive bitcoin revenue.	[04:49]
LordCanti	I hate that they are the defacto standard in epayments	[04:49]
BTC_Bear	Didn't say it was the same, but the irony is there.	[04:50]
splatster	Cory: specifically fixed-income bitcoin securities	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	splatster : you should make a fund on mpex omg	[04:50]
splatster	mircea_popescu: Except the only way it can go is up.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	hm?	[04:50]
splatster	There's no betting to be made.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	...	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	what betting lol	[04:51]
jjjrmy-m	sigh	[04:51]
splatster	MPOE ≠ MPEX	[04:51]
splatster	silly me	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	yea	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	mpex is like what glbse 2.0 is going to be	[04:51]
Cory	splatster: I think that should be included in the name, then.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	the upfund ?	[04:52]
Cory	Unless you want to go the Shades Minoco path and mix and match your names. :P	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	splatckles ?	[04:52]
splatster	But regardless, I'm sticking with glbse (2.0) just because of it's being established.	[04:52]
BTC_Bear	Master Splaster Inc.	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	i thought it wasn't actually online	[04:53]
splatster	Cory: It is stated as such in the soon to come forum post.	[04:53]
Cory	Coming soon? :D	[04:53]
Cory	(I think that phrase might hilite imsaguy. I'd better be careful)	[04:53]
splatster	It isn't really just me. I'm doing the investing. smickles is doing the accounting.	[04:54]
jjjrmy-m	coming soon	[04:54]
imsaguy	that'll be 2 btc Cory	[04:54]
imsaguy	that'll be 2 btc jjjrmy-m	[04:54]
jjjrmy-m	what is 2 btc?	[04:54]
imsaguy	1E7qfE55wJXrb4ZKJXH8masawnh54zL6d9	[04:54]
pigeons	royalty/licensing fee	[04:54]
imsaguy	the use of that phrase is a trademark	[04:54]
jjjrmy-m	wait what	[04:54]
jjjrmy-m	to who?	[04:54]
pigeons	imsaguy:	[04:54]
pigeons	all rights reserved	[04:54]
jjjrmy-m	where is the proof	[04:55]
imsaguy	clearly you need to read my signature	[04:55]
splatster	What about a name like "Splatster and Smickles's Bitcoin Investment Fund"	[04:55]
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jjjrmy-m	imsaguy: http://www.comingsoon.net/	[04:55]
pigeons	i already get you two mixed up, now you're doing a project together	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	coming soon is a great question to ask the girlfriend.	[04:55]
splatster	imsaguy has trademarked the phrase coming soon™ (phrase credit imsaguy)	[04:56]
rawrmage	lol	[04:56]
paulzag	FYI on Moneypaks	[04:56]
paulzag	PayPal now requires you to provide your name, address, date of birth and Social Security Number in order for Green Dot to verify your identity before you can use the MoneyPak to add money to your PayPal account	[04:56]
BTCHero	after 250 dollars	[04:56]
paulzag	nope	[04:56]
splatster	pigeons: Yes, I know.	[04:56]
jjjrmy-m	splatster: I don't see how you can simply trademark something just by saying that	[04:56]
BTCHero	what instantly?	[04:56]
paulzag	yep	[04:56]
BTCHero	i didn't have to until 250	[04:56]
paulzag	instantly	[04:56]
pigeons	i finally figured out one is slightly less annoying than the other ;>	[04:56]
paulzag	me neither	[04:56]
reeses	you can’t trademark something until it’s in commercial use	[04:57]
paulzag	problem is I have US tax id but no SSN	[04:57]
BTCHero	not that it matters who does less that 250	[04:57]
splatster	/ignore pigeons for being a meanie!	[04:57]
BTCHero	im sure it would work no?	[04:57]
splatster	lots of people get us mixed up.	[04:57]
reeses	paulzag: tin is acceptable for an sun substitute almost everywhere	[04:57]
reeses	ssn	[04:57]
imsaguy	Coming Soon!™ © imsaguy 2012, All rights reserved.	[04:58]
splatster	It will make for an -awesome- thread on bitcointalk.	[04:58]
paulzag	but it's not accepting my EIN	[04:58]
vragnaroda	imsaguy: You forgot the ®. :p	[04:58]
reeses	weird	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	ein = employer id number ?	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	you want the taxid	[04:58]
BTC_Bear	same thing	[04:58]
paulzag	® can only be used with Registered Trademarks	[04:58]
paulzag	I thought my EIN WAS my TIN	[04:59]
imsaguy	it certain cases, it is.	[04:59]
splatster	FYI, the announcement/IPO will come as soon as we get set up with GLBSE (preferably 2.0)	[04:59]
reeses	you want something that looks like 567-68-0515	[04:59]
pigeons	hey, that's mine!	[04:59]
paulzag	that's what my EIN looks like	[04:59]
reeses	in fact, just use that one	[04:59]
paulzag	won't match my state address	[04:59]
splatster	With the announcement will come the planned distribution of funds.	[04:59]
jjjrmy-m	yeah, how can they really check	[04:59]
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jjjrmy-m	here, one sec	[04:59]
reeses	(dick nixon’s ssn btw)	[05:00]
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mod6	ha	[05:00]
reeses	memorize it and use it whenever someone asks	[05:00]
paulzag	hehehe Isn't SSN linked to DOB?	[05:00]
nanotube	LordCanti: 'agree to reimburse' is not the same thing as 'we will reimburse ourselves' :)	[05:00]
jjjrmy-m	http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/	[05:00]
reeses	no	[05:00]
Cory	That's Richie's.	[05:00]
reeses	san is linked to state of issue	[05:00]
paulzag	I'm pretty sure they don't pass either jjjrmy-m	[05:00]
h4ckm3	Cusipzzz, hey -rescan worked great ty	[05:01]
jjjrmy-m	try itgive syou an SSN and everything	[05:01]
nanotube	LordCanti: thanks for doing the research :)	[05:01]
LordCanti	nanotube: I would hope so, I couldn't find anything direct though	[05:01]
h4ckm3	I also had an out of date client	[05:01]
LordCanti	novusordo: there are definitely a lot of people claiming that paypal pulls tuff like that on them, but no direct proff	[05:01]
LordCanti	proof*	[05:01]
reeses	Weight:240.2 pounds (109.2 kilograms)	[05:02]
reeses	Height:5' 7" (171 centimeters)	[05:02]
reeses	that’s just mean	[05:02]
LordCanti	I should double check my auto completes	[05:03]
reeses	Lion + TextExpander?	[05:03]
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paulzag	They check the US postal address is valid	[05:04]
splatster	So does anyone have any ideas?	[05:04]
nanotube	Bitcoin Lending Fund I	[05:05]
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splatster	What's with the I?	[05:05]
nanotube	leaves the option open to later offer II and III :)	[05:05]
reeses	Rocky wasn't Rocky I	[05:05]
nanotube	roman numerals. they suck, but they are traditional :)	[05:06]
splatster	Ah, things have changed to the overall plans.	[05:06]
reeses	ANH wasn't Episode IV until ESB was in the works	[05:06]
nanotube	reeses: yes it was. they just forgot to put it on.	[05:06]
splatster	It will be a single asset that will run forever.	[05:06]
splatster	s/asset/fund/	[05:06]
nanotube	still never hurts to give it a version number ;)	[05:06]
paulzag	We were unable to verify the information you provided. Please confirm your information and try again.	[05:06]
reeses	FIVE YEAR PLAN TO GREAT PROSPERITY	[05:06]
splatster	Guys, this thing really should go on as long as it possibly can.	[05:07]
splatster	Unless the shareholders vote to dissolve the assets, we will be turning a profit every month.	[05:07]
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jjjrmy-m	i am so dang tireed	[05:08]
amiller	srsly	[05:09]
nanotube	jjjrmy-m: there's this thing called sleep i've heard about. i understand it's a good antidote to tiredness.	[05:09]
nanotube	have you looked into that?	[05:09]
nanotube	i think you can find it on google if you have some time	[05:10]
jjjrmy-m	might as well go to sleep soon. Have a lot of work to do tomorrow	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	who can look INTO sleep !?	[05:10]
amiller	have you seen inception	[05:10]
amiller	it's like that.	[05:10]
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Mad7Scientist	Was my part message different than a real K-Line?	[05:13]
nanotube	yes, kline generally results in a quit, not in a part :)	[05:14]
Mad7Scientist	Could I disconnect from the whole network with a fake K-Linei quit?	[05:15]
copumpkin	they put it in quotes	[05:16]
nanotube	yea i don't recall the exact appearance of a real kline	[05:16]
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amiller	is anyone else going to go to the startup weekend thing	[05:17]
jjjrmy-m	me :)	[05:17]
amiller	i think jjjrmy-m and i will be repping bitcoin	[05:17]
amiller	combined we'll have 8 screens	[05:17]
mod6	nice, where is that at?	[05:17]
coingenuity	amiller: jjjrmy-m i'm sending my president of marketing, say hello to him	[05:17]
jjjrmy-m	B-)	[05:17]
amiller	it's at UCF, it's an event put on by Kauffman foundation which is a VC firm that 'works with' educational institutions	[05:18]
jjjrmy-m	coingenuity: wait, you are?	[05:18]
coingenuity	yes :)	[05:18]
mod6	cool :)	[05:18]
jjjrmy-m	coingenuity: so I should bother him more about advertising?	[05:18]
amiller	i am going to be trying very hard to push my vision of a self-issued IOU-based complementary currency trading system.	[05:18]
amiller	but in general we'll show off all the cool bitcoin things we can think of	[05:18]
coingenuity	sure jjjrmy-m its his job :) bug away	[05:18]
jjjrmy-m	coingenuity: what is his name?	[05:18]
amiller	i guess we're supposed to try to recruit team mates to help us and have a demo to show by the end of it	[05:18]
amiller	so any ideas are welcomed...	[05:18]
nanotube	amiller: will there be any video feeds? :)	[05:19]
amiller	i'm thinking i'm going to set up one of the screens as a kind of skype wall	[05:19]
jjjrmy-m	how do you do that coingenuity ?	[05:19]
amiller	and maybe i'll do some live broadcasts if i can figure out how	[05:19]
amiller	let me see if i can set up a ustream	[05:19]
coingenuity	irc NOTICE function	[05:19]
jjjrmy-m	amiller: Yes, I'd love to do a ustream	[05:20]
Cory	What time is it?	[05:20]
coingenuity	amiller: ustream is pretty easy :)	[05:20]
LordCanti	why are there so many articles about the "fall of bitcoin" but none following up now that it's stable?	[05:20]
amiller	lol LordCanti i think that's predictable	[05:20]
mod6	trolls, LordCanti.	[05:20]
LordCanti	"collapsing with no sign of recovery"	[05:20]
coingenuity	niggaz be jeaouz	[05:20]
coingenuity	jealouz*	[05:20]
draco49	They've been saying that for almost a year.	[05:20]
coingenuity	glad to hear it jjjrmy-m	[05:21]
Cory	I'd watch a live stream.	[05:21]
LordCanti	how long has it been around $4-5?	[05:21]
rg	LordCanti: same reason they report on the current wars we're in instead of what i did today	[05:21]
jjjrmy-m	Cory: watch me, I'm better :)	[05:21]
rg	reason: no one cares when youre up, they only wanna know when youre down	[05:21]
rg	;;ticker	[05:21]
amiller	it's been $4-5 for months now	[05:22]
nanotube	amiller: when's the ucf event?	[05:22]
Cory	Almost a month and a half.	[05:22]
amiller	begins tomorrow evening	[05:22]
amiller	we're pretty uncertain how it's going to go down	[05:22]
nanotube	ah... good luck! :)	[05:22]
nanotube	btw, y u not in -wot? :)	[05:22]
jjjrmy-m	what is -wot?	[05:22]
Mad7Scientist	wide open throttle	[05:22]
coingenuity	nanotube: -wot is dat	[05:22]
nanotube	coingenuity: haha	[05:23]
coingenuity	:P	[05:23]
amiller	http://orlando.startupweekend.org/event/	[05:23]
draco49	I thought dis was dat	[05:23]
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mod6	looks to be a long weekend, good luck guys :)	[05:25]
nanotube	jjjrmy-m: it is a channel. starts with #bitcoin :)	[05:25]
jjjrmy-m	#bitcoin-wot	[05:25]
draco49	:/	[05:25]
splatster	Mad7Scientist: If you REALLY want to see what a kline looks like, start up some shit in a bunch of different channels.	[05:26]
Mad7Scientist	that's how you would see what a K-Line looks like	[05:26]
amiller	so i'm planning on making a trading site for self issued currencies	[05:27]
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amiller	i want to know if anyone in bitcoin otc is going to be willing to play along	[05:27]
splatster	OR, you could boot up your own IRCd and see what happens	[05:28]
amiller	by letting me buy some credits for fractions of online services	[05:28]
amiller	like a day of rg vps	[05:28]
Mad7Scientist	Who wants to sign up for something and make $10 a month	[05:28]
cakes1000	10 bux? good deal	[05:29]
Mad7Scientist	But you have to send me $40 each month (you get $50 each month)	[05:29]
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novusordo	lol	[05:29]
novusordo	not like it's a nigerian scam or anything	[05:30]
Mad7Scientist	it's actually not a nigerian scam	[05:30]
Mad7Scientist	I'm not from Nigeria	[05:30]
draco49	It sounds like that stupid chain letter scam.	[05:30]
Mad7Scientist	and there is no sign up fee for you	[05:30]
gamotua	is it possible to purchase 1 bitcoin?	[05:30]
cakes1000	sure gamotua	[05:30]
gamotua	w/ cc?	[05:30]
Mad7Scientist	$5.30 PayPal right here	[05:30]
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Mad7Scientist	My mom just told me about freshman year college and the chain letters where you send $10 back and pass the letter on	[05:31]
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Mad7Scientist	I can't believe anyone would be so stupid	[05:33]
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Mad7Scientist	but apparently a few people made $$$ by doing it	[05:34]
g04	lol yeah they still circulate	[05:34]
g04	i remember getting something in the mail once addressed to resident lol	[05:34]
Mad7Scientist	but why can't I send the letter on and not send the $10 back to the person who sent it?	[05:36]
LordCanti	http://www.snopes.com/luck/chain.asp	[05:36]
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rg	good moring	[14:18]
rg	;;ticker	[14:18]
rg	ha	[14:18]
rg	my prediction is coming true guys	[14:18]
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rg	you have got to be shitting me	[14:20]
brznbtni	;;ticker	[14:20]
rg	ùíù WHO This command could not be completed because it has been used recently, and is rate-limited.	[14:21]
rg	freenode is pissing me off	[14:21]
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rg	s5	[14:41]
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rg	i said	[14:46]
rg	GOOD MORNING	[14:47]
rg	its time to say the pledge of allegience	[14:47]
rg	a	[14:47]
rg	not e	[14:47]
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luke-jr	rg: no way	[14:51]
rg	i pledge allegience to the flag	[14:53]
rg	of the united states of america	[14:53]
rg	and to the republc for which it stands	[14:53]
rg	one nation	[14:53]
rg	invisible	[14:53]
rg	with liberty and justice for all	[14:53]
rg	indivisible*	[14:53]
rg	invisible works too	[14:53]
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luke-jr	rg: you left out a line	[14:57]
rg	no, i didnt	[14:58]
luke-jr	rg: also, wtf would you pledge allegience to a flag?	[14:58]
luke-jr	it's a piece of cloth	[14:58]
rg	cause its a symbol of our freedom	[14:58]
rg	why would you pray to a wooden cross	[14:58]
luke-jr	lack of*	[14:58]
luke-jr	the current flag is a symbol of tyranny	[14:58]
rg	i love my country	[14:58]
rg	hate the system	[14:58]
rg	i am a true american	[14:58]
luke-jr	the flag represents the tyrant Lincoln forcing his control over the States	[14:59]
rg	yeah cause im sure the catholic symbol represents awesomeness	[14:59]
luke-jr	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Confederate_National_Flag_since_Mar_4_1865.svg <-- flag for true americans	[14:59]
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rg	lol	[15:00]
ageis	lol, you love that slavery	[15:02]
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luke-jr	ageis: lol you love your rewritten historybooks	[15:03]
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easystevey	;;rate nanotube 10 awesome stand up dude	[15:05]
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easystevey	;;rate nanotube 10 awesome stand up dude	[15:06]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user nanotube has changed from 1 to 10.	[15:06]
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rg	luke-jr: so slavery didnt occur?	[15:10]
rg	what a load off my chest	[15:10]
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occulta	market order create spread?	[15:17]
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luke-jr	rg: it occurred in both N and S	[15:23]
luke-jr	rg: and was on the way out naturally in both before the war	[15:23]
luke-jr	(in fact, if the war hadn't happened, we'd probably have skipped all the discrimination crap)	[15:23]
rg	obviously it occured in both	[15:24]
rg	but the whole war wasnt that slavery was bad	[15:24]
rg	it was the fact that holding rule over a man is immoral	[15:24]
rg	they didnt care about the slaves or black people as a race	[15:24]
rg	they just thought it was immoral to tell another man what to do in those circumstances	[15:24]
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rg	luke	[15:32]
rg	i am having the weirdest proble3m with our billing syste	[15:32]
rg	i am completely stumped	[15:32]
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rg	OH	[15:33]
rg	figured it out	[15:33]
rg	now i have to figure out how to fix it..	[15:34]
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Joric	i just love the term 'tainted coins'	[15:44]
Joric	wallet aids	[15:45]
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bitcoinTrader	hi	[15:56]
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snake-e-ter	hello guys	[15:56]
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snake-e-ter	i cant get in auth right now because i dont have my key on this pc but anyone want to trade some poker chips for btc	[15:57]
snake-e-ter	i dont want to have to wait for cash out on seals i need it now im willing to give you extra	[15:58]
snake-e-ter	i can send it to any btc poker site	[15:58]
snake-e-ter	im on sealswithclubs	[15:58]
rg	not me	[16:03]
rg	but someone, maybe	[16:03]
occulta	can someone tell me if its possible to execute an order that not exact? im not a trader and im assuming thats not how it works :P	[16:04]
occulta	so say, buy all sells under a certain value ?	[16:04]
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brznbtni	rg	[16:08]
brznbtni	i have a picture for the photobook	[16:08]
brznbtni	it's of nanotube	[16:09]
brznbtni	vragnaroda: great pic	[16:09]
brznbtni	vragnaroda: i am watching on my cinema display a	[16:10]
brznbtni	+it	[16:10]
brznbtni	:D	[16:10]
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Joric	nice photobook: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten	[16:10]
rg	did he give yuo it	[16:11]
rg	or did you find it online	[16:11]
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rg	i was under the impression he didnt want to submit a photo	[16:11]
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bruzum	rg: ph	[16:12]
bruzum	oh	[16:12]
mcorlett	;;ping	[16:12]
bruzum	http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537252_3568601938013_1361903087_3372395_156446527_n.jpg	[16:12]
bruzum	but as you said	[16:12]
bruzum	maybe he does not want it posted on the photobook	[16:12]
rg	haha yeah thats nanotube like im george washington	[16:12]
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bruzum	rg: hehehehe	[16:12]
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Cusipzzz	EvanR: you have money yet?!	[16:13]
terrytibbs	you doctor yet	[16:14]
rg	EvanR was buying strippers and coke lastn ight	[16:14]
rg	hes probably not got much left	[16:14]
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Cusipzzz	rg: haha. no he has coins in deep storage (usb key buried 10ft down in swamp)	[16:15]
bruzum	http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543348_10150626183332734_713202733_9421222_1956391697_n.jpg	[16:15]
copumpkin	Cusipzzz: you mean in the bayou?	[16:15]
bruzum	girl from one of my super secret groupos on facebook	[16:15]
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bruzum	groups	[16:15]
Cusipzzz	you have to hike, canoe, and snorkel to retreive it.. if they ever turn off GPS he's screwed	[16:15]
rg	bruzum, its a guy	[16:15]
bruzum	rg: no	[16:16]
bruzum	rg: iknow her personally :)	[16:16]
EvanR	rg: yeah but last night == 7pm	[16:16]
EvanR	everythings getting earlier and earlier	[16:16]
EvanR	Cusipzzz: i have recovered my computer, now its in the truck of my car	[16:16]
EvanR	its been raining...	[16:16]
Cusipzzz	EvanR: nice...progress	[16:16]
EvanR	i saw ohio and cincinatti	[16:17]
EvanR	my room mate used to live in both places	[16:17]
EvanR	who did you predict?	[16:17]
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Cusipzzz	went 2-1 last night, almost another sweep	[16:19]
EvanR	what does that mean	[16:19]
bruzum	http://i.imgur.com/TV41h.jpg	[16:19]
bruzum	:/	[16:19]
bruzum	im really offended by that	[16:20]
bruzum	picture	[16:20]
Cusipzzz	won 2 games, lost 1..made a little coin.	[16:20]
EvanR	mmk	[16:20]
bruzum	Cusipzzz: gambling ?	[16:20]
EvanR	sportsbetting isnt gambling	[16:20]
rg	the catholic boattttttttt	[16:20]
bruzum	im asking	[16:20]
Cusipzzz	it's skill, lol	[16:20]
EvanR	if youre playing against an RNG with rules where youre certain to lose in the long run, its gambling	[16:21]
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rg	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/23/cern_storage_disk_shortage/	[16:21]
bruzum	Cusipzzz: so can you guaranteee me a profit if i inest money in your plays?	[16:21]
rg	donate your HD's to CERN	[16:21]
bruzum	invest	[16:21]
rg	donate your HD's to CERN	[16:21]
rg	donate your HD's to CERN	[16:21]
EvanR	bruzum: you are about to get a call xD	[16:21]
bruzum	Cusipzzz: what is your rate	[16:21]
EvanR	also nothing is guaranteed even in investments	[16:21]
Cusipzzz	bruzum: no guarantees my man, but evanr has seen results lol	[16:22]
EvanR	youre just not certain to lose like in gambling	[16:22]
bruzum	Cusipzzz: ok. what are your terms?	[16:22]
bruzum	and what type of sport betting is it?	[16:22]
EvanR	btcsportsbet.com	[16:22]
Cusipzzz	college basketball...tournament going on	[16:22]
bruzum	alright	[16:22]
bruzum	where can i transfer my funds ?	[16:22]
bruzum	and what are your terms, again	[16:22]
bruzum	i want to play exactly like you do	[16:23]
bruzum	so just mirror your plays for me if u can	[16:23]
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Cusipzzz	bruzum: lol, you can do it yourself, will explain in pm	[16:23]
bruzum	no	[16:23]
bruzum	i dont want to be directly involved with gambling	[16:23]
bruzum	so im asking what your rate is	[16:23]
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bruzum	but pm, sure	[16:24]
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rg	why want disassemble johnny 5?	[16:24]
rg	why want disassemble johnny 5?	[16:24]
EvanR	bruzum: its not gambling	[16:24]
EvanR	and whats this thing about 'direct' involvement lol	[16:24]
EvanR	youre already in over your head, this is bitcoin	[16:25]
bruzum	Cusipzzz: i want to introduce a few friends of mine to bitcoin and they are into BETTING (NOT GAMBLING IM SORRY KTHX NP..)	[16:25]
bruzum	Cusipzzz: thats why	[16:25]
EvanR	bitcoin is great for that	[16:25]
bruzum	yeah	[16:25]
bruzum	i suspect	[16:25]
EvanR	you dont have to fuck with regulations and shit	[16:25]
bruzum	yeah	[16:26]
bruzum	but can you play on real games?	[16:26]
bruzum	like	[16:26]
bruzum	i dont know	[16:26]
bruzum	champions leauge	[16:26]
bruzum	and horses and stuff	[16:26]
EvanR	they have lots of stuff on there	[16:27]
bruzum	cooooooooool	[16:27]
Cusipzzz	yes, champions league, all major soccer leagues	[16:27]
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bruzum	i dont like webpages, sry	[16:27]
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bruzum	accounts	[16:27]
wsmf	you here	[16:27]
EvanR	me neither	[16:27]
Cusipzzz	nba, etc	[16:27]
bruzum	and passwords etc	[16:27]
bruzum	i always use my email for all my accounts	[16:27]
bruzum	"forgot password"	[16:27]
bruzum	and that is a hassle	[16:27]
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rg	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbnLYROCj8	[16:29]
rg	standing tallllllllllll	[16:29]
rg	on the wings of my dreams	[16:30]
rg	rise and falllllllllllll	[16:30]
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itisme	hi	[16:30]
itisme	hi room	[16:30]
wsmf	ok so you can type	[16:30]
rg	we're a channel	[16:30]
rg	not a room	[16:31]
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itisme_	i have chips	[16:32]
itisme_	on sealswithclubs.org	[16:33]
itisme_	looking for btx	[16:33]
itisme_	btc*	[16:33]
rg	can't you withdraw those to BTC?	[16:33]
rg	i mean, werent they BTC originally?	[16:33]
itisme_	you can withdraw	[16:34]
itisme_	but the owner has to be on for it to happen	[16:34]
itisme_	and that wont be for a while	[16:34]
itisme_	ill pay a lil fee if someone can do it for me	[16:34]
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bruzum	itisme_: can i put the chips in btc sports betting somehow	[16:35]
bruzum	itisme_: if so i am interested	[16:35]
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AnonX	nanotube	[16:38]
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rg	http://iphonetoolbox.com/wallpaper/christine-lakin/	[16:41]
rg	yeah	[16:41]
rg	thats the girl from Step by Step	[16:41]
rg	somebody got hot	[16:41]
rg	big time	[16:41]
vraa	;;getrating speed_racer8	[16:44]
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Joric	oh gawd it's 4.62	[16:48]
rg	;;ticker	[16:49]
gribble	Best bid: 4.615, Best ask: 4.63481, Bid-ask spread: 0.01981, Last trade: 4.615, 24 hour volume: 68235, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.83711	[16:49]
rg	4.61	[16:49]
EvanR	whats the market rate for hot twin hookers	[16:49]
rg	EvanR: coke	[16:49]
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rg	;;asks 5.00	[16:49]
gribble	There are currently 43361.761 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 212544.202203 USD in total.	[16:49]
rg	lol.	[16:49]
rg	bye bye $5	[16:49]
EvanR	hello 7	[16:50]
EvanR	soon	[16:50]
rg	;;market buy 400000	[16:50]
jjjrmy-m	I have an annuity but I need cash now	[16:50]
gribble	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 286716.73 bitcoins, for a total of 316564485719.2266 USD and take the price to 1337000000000.0000.	[16:50]
EvanR	haha	[16:50]
Joric	why it's always 1337 billion	[16:50]
rg	;;market buy 15000	[16:51]
gribble	A market order to buy 15000 bitcoins right now would take 72152.2732 USD and would take the last price up to 4.8799 USD.	[16:51]
rg	think about that, 15,000 btc has to be sold to even take us near $5	[16:51]
bitcoinTrader	;;seen ocminer	[16:52]
jjjrmy-m	rg: you didn't fix the images yet... :(	[16:54]
rg	message me them now	[16:54]
rg	im not busy today	[16:54]
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Joric	zhou doesn't even try to lower buy price	[16:55]
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reeses	ugh mtgox’s architectural problems raise their ugly heads yet again	[16:59]
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rg	reeses: example	[17:00]
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Joric	how ppl manage to sell tiny amounts a higher price do they buy from themselves?	[17:02]
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Blitzboom	wat	[17:03]
merlin1234	Search anyone how chance PSC to BTC .. i have good rating on bitcoin-otc !!	[17:03]
rg	0 Overdue Invoices	[17:03]
rg	mmm	[17:03]
rg	that pleases me	[17:03]
Joric	50 @ 4.61 ... 0.01 @ 4.63 ... 80 @ 4.61	[17:04]
rg	Joric: well	[17:04]
rg	i believe the goal is to make many small profitable transactions	[17:04]
rg	and have them equal out to a gain	[17:05]
rg	however	[17:05]
rg	you must also take into account mtcox's fees	[17:05]
AndrewNTH	;;rate paulzag 1 Easy and quick transaction for 1 BTC.	[17:05]
AndrewNTH	oh i can't rate yet aha	[17:05]
rg	AndrewNTH: soon young jedi	[17:05]
rg	soon	[17:05]
merlin1234	msg memoserv send seco	[17:06]
AndrewNTH	rg: i thought i was supposed to is all :P	[17:06]
rg	;;getrating andrewnth	[17:06]
gribble	This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask AndrewNTH!~andy@unaffiliated/andrewnth	[17:06]
rg	;;gpg info andrewnth	[17:07]
gribble	User 'AndrewNTH', with keyid CE66010526934513 and fingerprint 2EF0329D58E02D44FD06DB4ECE66010526934513, registered on Fri Mar 23 02:50:22 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask AndrewNTH!~andy@unaffiliated/andrewnth	[17:07]
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merlin1234	hello can anyone help me please.. i need the command for selling pcs on the bitcoin otc order book	[17:09]
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rg	i cant be certain	[17:16]
rg	but	[17:16]
rg	it appears the new website look has boosted sales	[17:16]
vragnaroda	merlin1234: See the ,,guide	[17:16]
gribble	Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc	[17:16]
Cusipzzz	rg: it does look much better	[17:16]
phedny	rg: if you want to be certain, you can do A/B testing ;)	[17:17]
Joric	http://www.bitvps.com/icons/ubuntu_logo.jpg doesn't load	[17:17]
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merlin1234	thanks :)) But can anyone change fast ?!? becasue my men had no more btc	[17:17]
Joric	as well as http://www.bitvps.com/icons/Debian_Logo.gif	[17:17]
rg	that was actually an ubuntu logo	[17:18]
rg	it was too big	[17:18]
rg	so i rm'd it	[17:19]
rg	i will find a better one now	[17:19]
draco49	Good morning :)	[17:19]
rg	ahoy draco	[17:19]
rg	its like .. mid day	[17:19]
rg	:>	[17:19]
draco49	I know, I slept in :P	[17:19]
jcpham	yeah i got 5 page erros loading it too	[17:19]
jcpham	for pve icons or something	[17:19]
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rg	pve icons?	[17:20]
rg	http://www.bitvps.com/icons/proxmox_logo.png ?	[17:20]
rg	i need to fix the black too	[17:20]
rg	the black on the bottom is darker than the title bar	[17:20]
bitcoinTrader	;;seen mad7scientist	[17:20]
jcpham	the other day when it debuted you had 5 of these	[17:21]
jcpham	Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)	[17:21]
jcpham	now you only have one	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.msg815674#msg815674 << case study, how to use options to hedge.	[17:21]
rg	oh mary poppins	[17:21]
rg	you and your options	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	yee!	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	at least i know html :D	[17:21]
draco49	lol wow, below the belt	[17:22]
rg	i never claimed to know HTML	[17:22]
rg	i dont	[17:22]
rg	usually i just modify templates	[17:23]
Joric	mircea_popescu, 1311 Errors, 579 warnings	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	joric see ? :D	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	he who dies with the most errors wins.	[17:23]
jjjrmy-m	Hmm, anyone know how to get a Adobe Photoshop CS6 key?	[17:24]
Joric	oh it's 1307 Errors, 579 warning(s) already, good job	[17:24]
Cusipzzz	lol	[17:24]
rg	i have some stray divs	[17:25]
rg	the problem with the validation is that when i fix them, they break the site	[17:25]
rg	i already attempted to fix some	[17:25]
Joric	http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ragecoin.appspot.com shit 1 got warning	[17:26]
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rg	did you fix that shit yet?	[17:26]
Joric	i don't know how to fix this particular warning it probably just doesn't like html5	[17:26]
rg	damn html5 validation! doesnt like htmlt!	[17:27]
rg	damn html5 validation! doesnt like html5!	[17:27]
Joric	looks like it's still experimental	[17:28]
merlin1234	hello how can i delete orders ??	[17:28]
jjjrmy-m	;;delete	[17:28]
jjjrmy-m	;;remove	[17:28]
jjjrmy-m	;;remove	[17:29]
bruzum	rg: me and nanotube are getting ready	[17:29]
bruzum	rg: to go you	[17:29]
bruzum	to go ut*	[17:29]
bruzum	to go out*	[17:29]
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jjjrmy-m	where are you guy sgooing	[17:29]
bruzum	night club	[17:29]
jjjrmy-m	during the day?	[17:29]
bruzum	day ?	[17:29]
bruzum	where u at?	[17:29]
bruzum	anyways	[17:30]
bruzum	he wanted me to post another pic of him	[17:30]
bruzum	http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532207_3568607858161_1361903087_3372397_60926769_n.jpg	[17:30]
vragnaroda	bruzum: Well, nanotube's in New Jersey, where it's 11:30 a.m.	[17:30]
bruzum	vragnaroda: hehehe	[17:30]
rg	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69507.0	[17:32]
rg	another bitcoin ISP	[17:32]
rg	awesome	[17:32]
rg	just what we need	[17:32]
rg	another one to supplement the 100 other providers	[17:32]
Joric	this one is cooler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Clz0m1C0k	[17:32]
rg	they've got a pretty dumb name	[17:33]
phedny	rg: in a couple of months we might see the first mobile phone operator to accept Bitcoins :)	[17:33]
rg	http://bitsforcoins.com/virtual_private_servers/	[17:34]
rg	well cool	[17:34]
rg	thats where they sell virtua lserves	[17:34]
rg	then tell you not to buy one	[17:34]
rg	We understand the risks and problems inherent with VPSs better than anyone. This might seem strange, but we'd strongly encourage you not to buy a VPS from us.	[17:34]
Cusipzzz	lol	[17:34]
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rg	BitsForCoins was created to fill a tremendous void in the hosting market for companies accepting Bitcoins and providing a superior level of service.	[17:35]
rg	wow	[17:35]
rg	thats almost word for word from bitvps	[17:35]
draco49	lol	[17:35]
rg	who are these fucks	[17:35]
draco49	Hey man, they donate to bitcointalk.org, so you know they're legit ;)	[17:35]
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Joric	'we'd strongly encourage you not to buy from us' what kind of business is that	[17:36]
vragnaroda	rg: I added to that thread because it annoyed me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69507.msg815981#msg815981	[17:36]
vragnaroda	draco49: rofl	[17:36]
Cusipzzz	Joric: because they want to sell whole servers, not VPS	[17:37]
rg	LOL	[17:37]
rg	oh my god	[17:37]
rg	thats some good wording vrg	[17:37]
jcpham	vragnaroda are you trying to get your post count up too?	[17:37]
rg	welp	[17:38]
rg	time to take out the big guns	[17:38]
rg	a service comparision chart	[17:38]
rg	with prices/server spec side by side	[17:38]
draco49	I like how they use the word "superlative" instead of actually using a superlative.	[17:38]
rg	for $9 less, you could get a server with 4 more cores, 4 more gb ram, and about 260 more HD space	[17:39]
rg	from us	[17:39]
rg	260gb*	[17:39]
vragnaroda	jcpham: The forum's mostly cancer. I've had an account there since 21 Apr, but I don't go there often.	[17:39]
Cusipzzz	rg: but they make it up in service? O.o	[17:39]
rg	Cusi: maybe	[17:39]
rg	ive never heard of them or their parent company	[17:39]
rg	(and the fact that their parent companies web page doesnt work doesnt help)	[17:39]
draco49	And the bottom of their page says they've been in business since 2010...	[17:40]
rg	draco49: order a server from them	[17:40]
draco49	hell no	[17:40]
jcpham	vragnaroda agreed	[17:40]
jcpham	WTB	[17:40]
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rg	rawrmage: this dude is talking shit to you	[17:41]
rg	on g+	[17:41]
rg	he says you look asian	[17:41]
rg	them's fighting words	[17:41]
vragnaroda	lolwut	[17:42]
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jcpham	WTB mtgoxusd or bitcoin with paypal	[17:43]
jcpham	easiest, safest pp transaction ever	[17:43]
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Cusipzzz	jcpham: how mcuh do ya need / price?	[17:47]
jcpham	;;ticker	[17:48]
jcpham	i'd like it at market but i'll pay up to 4.75 i suppose	[17:48]
jcpham	;;calc 2100/4.68	[17:49]
rg	if Cusi cant help you, i can	[17:49]
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Cusipzzz	how many btc ?	[17:49]
dxtr	Where's a good place to get e-currencies that I can pay with my visa card that I can use to get money on my mtgox account?	[17:49]
jcpham	450-ish	[17:49]
Cusipzzz	jcpham: lol, too many for me, was just going to get a few bucks into my paypal - no interested in selling that many, sorry	[17:50]
rg	oh yeah thats too much for me aswell	[17:50]
jcpham	i'll take whatever i can get	[17:50]
rg	ithought you meant like 8 :P	[17:50]
jcpham	sell whatever you can/will	[17:50]
rg	"balance" : 9.04599270,	[17:51]
Cusipzzz	haha rg	[17:51]
jcpham	you hold on to that for a minute	[17:51]
jcpham	:)	[17:51]
rg	i dont want to hold onto them	[17:51]
rg	i will sell them the first chance i get	[17:51]
rg	btw	[17:51]
rg	who here is married?	[17:51]
rg	what hand do you wear your wedding ring on	[17:52]
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rg	shit really?	[17:52]
rg	ok	[17:52]
Cusipzzz	ya left	[17:52]
draco49	You scopin' out some cougars?	[17:53]
rg	i dont know about that	[17:53]
rg	but i am wearing a wedding rung	[17:53]
rg	ring	[17:53]
draco49	On the wrong hand?	[17:53]
rg	well its on the right (left) hand now	[17:54]
rg	:>	[17:54]
Joric	do you have four hands	[17:54]
draco49	lol Well at least you've remedied that.	[17:54]
jcpham	rg	[17:55]
jcpham	how much for your 9 btc	[17:55]
rg	its too small for my fat fingers	[17:55]
rg	;;ticker	[17:55]
gribble	Best bid: 4.66873, Best ask: 4.6696, Bid-ask spread: 0.00087, Last trade: 4.66873, 24 hour volume: 71575, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.83711	[17:55]
rg	will you do 4.70?	[17:55]
jcpham	yep	[17:55]
rg	;;calc 9 * 4.70	[17:55]
gribble	42.3	[17:55]
rg	send that to sales@bitvps.com	[17:55]
rg	and message me a btc addy	[17:55]
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jcpham	;;rate rg 2 Sold me BTC for PP	[17:58]
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rg	i dont know if ive ever traded with jcp	[17:58]
rg	;;rated jcpham	[17:58]
gribble	You rated user jcpham on Thu Dec 15 22:53:17 2011, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: king among men. definitely atleast better than jesus.	[17:58]
rg	haha what in the fuck	[17:58]
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jcpham	;;rate rg 2 Sold me BTC for PP	[17:59]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user rg has been recorded.	[17:59]
Joric	mircea_popescu, i believe bruzum lives in nj for real http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532207_3568607858161_1361903087_3372397_60926769_n.jpg	[17:59]
AndrewNTH	;;ticker	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	le cool.	[18:00]
gribble	Best bid: 4.67627, Best ask: 4.6848, Bid-ask spread: 0.00853, Last trade: 4.6848, 24 hour volume: 71426, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.83711	[18:00]
jcpham	i believe you gave me arating because i sent you something	[18:00]
jcpham	ram i think	[18:01]
BTCHero	WTF 4.66? Who wants to buy my coins a t 5.20? :)	[18:01]
Joric	;;asks 5.20	[18:01]
gribble	There are currently 57259.831 bitcoins offered at or under 5.2 USD, worth 281907.440051 USD in total.	[18:01]
jcpham	I'll buy up to 4.75 but I'm not offering higher right now, sorry	[18:02]
AndrewNTH	I'm looking to buy 6 coins	[18:02]
AndrewNTH	PayPal	[18:02]
jcpham	Andrew I'm willing to re sell the coins I just bought for a profit	[18:04]
Cusipzzz	;;rate jcpham 1 quick small trade	[18:04]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jcpham has been recorded.	[18:04]
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jcpham	seems wrong and tedious to me, though	[18:04]
AndrewNTH	;;remove	[18:04]
gribble	(remove ) -- Remove an outstanding order by .	[18:04]
AndrewNTH	jcpham: what price?	[18:05]
AndrewNTH	;;view	[18:05]
gribble	#7345 Fri Mar 23 03:09:39 2012 AndrewNTH BUY 1.0 BTC @ 5 PPUSD (None)	[18:05]
AndrewNTH	;;remove 7345	[18:05]
gribble	Order 7345 removed.	[18:05]
jcpham	;;getrating AndrewNTH	[18:05]
gribble	This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask AndrewNTH!~andy@unaffiliated/andrewnth	[18:05]
jcpham	maybe not, sorry	[18:05]
AndrewNTH	;;getrating jcpham	[18:05]
gribble	User jcpham, created on Fri Nov 11 09:35:04 2011. Cumulative rating 23, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 17 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jcpham Currently authenticated from hostmask jcpham!~boing@porngo.at	[18:05]
AndrewNTH	jcpham: i'd happily send the money beforehand	[18:05]
jcpham	I really can't risk my PP on unrated user	[18:06]
AndrewNTH	okay, fair enough	[18:06]
rg	someone on templatep2p.com just taught me the most evil SEO trick	[18:06]
rg	ive ever seen in my life	[18:06]
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a5m0	use the porn tag?	[18:06]
BTCHero	any idea why the sell off? someone cashing out 43k coins a few k at a time?	[18:07]
rg	so i just found logs	[18:07]
rg	of this 'new company'	[18:07]
rg	rummaging through our WHMCS	[18:08]
AndrewNTH	;;buy 6.5 @ 4.8 PPUSD	[18:08]
gribble	Order id 7353 created.	[18:08]
rg	ssl_request_log:[18/Mar/2012:19:42:18 -0500] 68.234.12.67 TLSv1 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /billing/cart.php?gid=2 HTTP/1.1" 2096	[18:08]
AndrewNTH	oops	[18:08]
rg	bitsforcoins.com has address 68.234.30.2	[18:08]
AndrewNTH	;;remove 7353	[18:08]
gribble	Order 7353 removed.	[18:08]
AndrewNTH	;;buy 6.5 BTC @ 4.8 PPUSD	[18:08]
gribble	Order id 7354 created.	[18:08]
rg	NetRange: 68.234.0.0 - 68.234.31.255	[18:08]
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AndrewNTH	someone sell me some btc :(	[18:11]
BTCHero	;;getrating AndrewNTH	[18:11]
BTCHero	mtgox will sell you some	[18:11]
rg	BitsForCoins was created to fill a tremendous void in the hosting market for companies accepting Bitcoins and providing a superior level of service.	[18:11]
AndrewNTH	BTCHero: i don't have a rating yet so i'm willing to send money in advance	[18:11]
rg	BitVPS's creation was brought on by a lack of reputable and reliable virtual server vendors in the Bitcoin community.	[18:12]
BTCHero	AndrewNTH that doesn't matter	[18:12]
jcpham	you would need to send it 90 days in the past	[18:12]
BTCHero	unless you mean Western Union, Moneygram	[18:12]
BTCHero	possibly moneypak	[18:12]
dwon	AndrewNTH: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/PayPal#Criticism	[18:12]
LordCanti	Anyone know if Moneypak issues have been worked out?	[18:12]
LordCanti	I was trying to make a trade last night but the seller was having issues, PP requires a lot more info now to redeem MP	[18:13]
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BTCHero	they always have, they just lowered the bullshit requirement from 250 to 0	[18:13]
LordCanti	ahh ok	[18:13]
Joric	that whmsc is it cool never heard of it	[18:13]
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LordCanti	they weren't accepting my trading partner's info, so it was no go	[18:14]
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LordCanti	didn't know if that means the MP I have is now useless or what	[18:14]
BTCHero	how much is your moneypak?	[18:14]
LordCanti	$20	[18:14]
BTCHero	i only have a few coins	[18:14]
BTCHero	oh lol	[18:14]
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LordCanti	I just bought it to see how it would work for trade here	[18:14]
BTCHero	how many cons are you trying to get?	[18:15]
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MBS	lol	[18:15]
MBS	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/dan-oleary-keller-city-manager-fired_n_1373087.html	[18:15]
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LordCanti	was thinking 4 if possible	[18:15]
BTCHero	ill do it, query me while i go look for my card	[18:15]
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dodee214	ddd	[18:16]
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dragon_	anyone here play on sealswithclubs?	[18:20]
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AnonX	unless ur from the US	[18:21]
AnonX	there are alot of better options	[18:21]
AnonX	to play online poker	[18:21]
rg	jjjrmy	[18:23]
rg	i need a services comparison php dealie	[18:23]
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rg	that pakishell shit seems to be so unstable	[18:27]
rg	according to logs	[18:27]
rg	it accounts for over 30% of quit/rejoin/quit/rejoin	[18:27]
jcpham	is that the ce.ms hosts	[18:28]
rg	yeah	[18:28]
rg	i think thats spawn-	[18:28]
mod6	30%!	[18:29]
rg	i made that stat up	[18:29]
rg	as i make up all my stats	[18:29]
rg	but its a lot	[18:29]
mod6	ok :)	[18:29]
mod6	i agree.	[18:29]
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rg	so what do you guys think	[18:33]
rg	mushroom & swiss or bacon & cheddar	[18:33]
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draco49	bacon cheddar	[18:34]
rg	i ahvent had the bacon in a while	[18:35]
draco49	I love bacon.	[18:35]
rg	bacons good	[18:35]
rg	i gotta take a shower	[18:35]
rg	or else the delivery driver is gonna know i was wearing the same clothes	[18:35]
draco49	lol	[18:36]
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jcpham	http://qkme.me/3oftz7	[18:39]
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mircea_popescu	jcpham and so falls another myth	[18:42]
jcpham	what's that mircea_popescu	[18:43]
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mircea_popescu	well you know, the notion that spring break > lightspeed set.	[18:44]
jcpham	kitty thinks that shit boring	[18:44]
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jcpham	and wants to go back to sleep	[18:44]
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mircea_popescu	apparently.	[18:45]
rg	wow	[18:45]
rg	record time shower	[18:45]
rg	9m30s	[18:45]
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rg	jjjrmy	[18:47]
rg	i have a task for you	[18:47]
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mcorlett	rg: You time your showers, too?	[18:49]
rg	mcorlett: only cause im waiting for a delivery	[18:50]
jcpham	if you didn't take so long touching yourself...	[18:50]
merlin1234	hello to all ! doea anyone fast change PSC to BTC ??? i have allready make an offer in the order book but that is to slow !!	[18:51]
rg	what is PSC?	[18:51]
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Shibofu	buying btc via PP or MP.	[18:52]
Shibofu	paying well =D	[18:53]
merlin1234	hello shibofu normaly i do that but in the last time i make it with psc but my BTC "dealer" is out of stock :(( and so i have the cards at home :((	[18:54]
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rg	god damn it	[19:00]
rg	i knocked over my food	[19:00]
rg	every french fry fell onto the ground	[19:00]
rg	my nasty ground	[19:00]
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bonks	i hate when they fall onto the tray	[19:03]
mcorlett	merlin1234: See the topic in #bitcoin-otc-eu.	[19:04]
ianthius	rg: is your ground so dirty that you will now not eat them?	[19:06]
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mcorlett	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-second_rule	[19:07]
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ianthius	rg: 9 min shower is a record for you? :)	[19:07]
ianthius	do you have mile long hair or something?	[19:07]
bitcoinewb	hi guys does anyone know if mtgox still allows dwolla funding and vice versa?	[19:08]
bonks	screw that, i've seen stacked trays with crap between them. imagine what's on the paper inserts on those trays..	[19:08]
mcorlett	bitcoinewb: It does, yes.	[19:08]
bitcoinewb	is it taking longer than usual to deposit dwolla funding mcorlett ? it'	[19:08]
bitcoinewb	its been more than 15 mins'	[19:08]
mcorlett	That was not your question.	[19:09]
bitcoinewb	phew	[19:09]
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SteinerC	Selling 3 BTC $14.70	[19:11]
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brute	still looking for someone to exchange $1400USD to BTC	[19:14]
brute	can do a bank deposit, moneypak, bank wire, etc	[19:14]
mod6	;;ident brute	[19:14]
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SteinerC	Selling 2.78371364412591 for $13.90 USD PP	[19:17]
Shibofu	Buying BTC via PP $160	[19:17]
mcorlett	SteinerC: Too many decimals.	[19:17]
SteinerC	No	[19:18]
SteinerC	MTGox accepted it	[19:18]
mcorlett	1 Satoshi = 0.00000001 BTC	[19:18]
jcpham	;;calc 13.90/2.7837	[19:19]
gribble	4.99335416891	[19:19]
Shibofu	Buying 32 BTC at $160PP	[19:20]
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SteinerC	Selling 2.78371364 BTC $13.90 PPUSD	[19:21]
jcpham	;;calc 160/32	[19:21]
gribble	5	[19:21]
mcorlett	SteinerC: Better!	[19:24]
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SteinerC	mcorlett: Thank you! :)	[19:24]
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rg	MacGruber!	[19:31]
rg	;;ticker	[19:31]
gribble	Best bid: 4.67002, Best ask: 4.68769, Bid-ask spread: 0.01767, Last trade: 4.68799, 24 hour volume: 69573, 24 hour low: 4.59768, 24 hour high: 4.83711	[19:31]
rg	;;asks 4.75	[19:32]
gribble	There are currently 2779.5055 bitcoins offered at or under 4.75 USD, worth 13134.2457167 USD in total.	[19:32]
SteinerC	;;getrating merlin1234	[19:32]
jcpham	4.75 is a good price imo right now	[19:33]
jcpham	until it tanks and goes to $2	[19:33]
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merlin1234	For all they dont know anything about PSC : http://www.paysafecard.com/us/us-paysafecard/	[19:35]
rg	i bet we'll see 4.30	[19:35]
rg	by Monday	[19:35]
rg	;;asks 4.30	[19:35]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 4.3 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.	[19:35]
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BTC_Bear	## +init:trace -t 0xe1f432a218 Test	[19:36]
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Joric	actually, s3052 said soon we'll see all time high	[19:36]
subpar	;;bids 4.30	[19:36]
Joric	i'm buying	[19:37]
subpar	Joric: heh	[19:37]
jcpham	I'm buying too!	[19:37]
subpar	I would not expect to see $31 again	[19:37]
subpar	in the next 12 months (if ever)	[19:37]
Joric	http://www.bitcoinbullbear.com last update	[19:37]
subpar	except since 3/17 the market has fallen	[19:38]
subpar	I hope he is right	[19:39]
subpar	I am still long BTC	[19:39]
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mcorlett	I'm shlong.	[19:39]
Joric	check out his wording he finally said 'most probably' he's responsible now (most probably)	[19:40]
chk	what is the prediction? i cant seem to find it	[19:40]
subpar	agreed	[19:40]
LordCanti	where does gribble pull its bid data from?	[19:40]
LordCanti	mtgox?	[19:40]
subpar	yes	[19:40]
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LordCanti	thanks	[19:43]
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helo	poor namecoin... nowhere in the orderbook	[19:45]
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jcpham	WTB MTGOXUSD or quantities of BTC with PP - rated buyer!	[19:46]
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Shibofu	buying 32 btc via 160PPUSD	[19:50]
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brute	please msg me if you can exchange 1400usd to btc	[19:53]
brute	thanks	[19:53]
brute	i have an order open already, but i can modify it	[19:53]
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Blitzboom	;;ticker	[19:54]
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phraust	hrm, photoshop cs6 beta...	[19:57]
mcorlett	;;getrating [ident Shibofu]	[19:58]
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mircea_popescu	omg! rally!	[20:03]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: ?	[20:04]
bitcoinTrader	which market ?	[20:04]
mcorlett	Mircea the Joker.	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	made you look hehehe	[20:04]
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phraust	hrm, pretty.	[20:17]
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mcorlett	phraust: Did you try the new Photoshop out?	[20:18]
rawrmage	rg: lol	[20:18]
phraust	yeah, just setting it up now.	[20:18]
paultroon	;;gpg eregister paultroon E5A233DE77C60F89	[20:18]
mcorlett	I will be expecting first impressions!	[20:18]
rawrmage	rg: is that the comment from like 5 months ago	[20:18]
hyphaestus	"happy hunger games"	[20:19]
phraust	so far it's very slick. I have cs4 from work, and haven't had a chance to try cs5.	[20:19]
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phraust	heh, it has little tooltips that show pixel coordinates and dimensions when you select/drag stuff.	[20:20]
rg	rawrmage: and that man still lives?	[20:21]
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rawrmage	hmm wait	[20:22]
rawrmage	rg how are you in my extended circles	[20:22]
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rawrmage	rg: yes, because he's in the uk and i'm not :P	[20:23]
rg	rawrmage: please do not doubt the power that is rg	[20:23]
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rg	i would have figured youd know this by now	[20:23]
rawrmage	i can't find you	[20:23]
rawrmage	you must be under a pseudonym	[20:23]
rg	im not added	[20:24]
rg	i dont do social networking, except for the original social network	[20:24]
rg	IRC	[20:24]
rawrmage	how can you view something limited to extended cirlces then	[20:24]
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paultroon	;;gpg ident	[20:26]
gribble	You are identified as user paultroon, with GPG key id E5A233DE77C60F89, and key fingerprint A244FDBF1A5C32F129B0ED01E5A233DE77C60F89.	[20:26]
rg	i dont know	[20:26]
paultroon	;;gpg stats	[20:26]
gribble	There are 3542 registered users, 24 currently authenticated. There are also 0 pending authentication requests.	[20:26]
rawrmage	rg: creepy.	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	Subject: *SPAM* Mircea, as per your request - Video of my life story	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	From: "Jason Julius"	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	This video is about a story of someone who went from a really broke state into a	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	very solid position as of today. This is not about some system or anything,	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	it is about how someone just like you, in 2011, could crack the code of the mobile	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	phone world to make a very good living which surpasses all kinds of	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	interet chores that we do today.	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	should i write back thell him about bitcoins ?	[20:27]
mcorlett	/votekick mircea_popescu	[20:28]
BTC_Bear	So you're spamming spam?	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	i thought it was funnay ;/	[20:28]
jcpham	pretty awesome	[20:28]
jcpham	now i should spam it	[20:28]
BTC_Bear	any Eggs with that?	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	why the hate!	[20:28]
BTC_Bear	I don't hate	[20:28]
BTC_Bear	I love	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	not you, mlorcette	[20:28]
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rawrmage	gribble!!!!!!!!!	[20:32]
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rawrmage	;;gpg stats	[20:37]
jcpham	WTB MTGOXUSD or quantities of BTC with PP - rated buyer!	[20:38]
rawrmage	;;gpg stats	[20:38]
gribble	There are 3542 registered users, 1 currently authenticated. There are also 0 pending authentication requests.	[20:38]
*	gribble gives voice to rawrmage	[20:38]
rawrmage	FIRST!	[20:38]
BTC_Bear	interlaced	[20:38]
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jcpham	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-22/at-t-accused-of-improperly-billing-u-s-program-for-deaf-1-.html	[20:42]
jcpham	i admit, since it's inception, i have abused it	[20:42]
dwon	nanotube: gribble's ;;gpg stats says "1 currently authenticated"? There are a lot more people voiced in here...	[20:43]
jcpham	gribble parted	[20:43]
jcpham	;;gpg stats	[20:43]
gribble	There are 3542 registered users, 4 currently authenticated. There are also 0 pending authentication requests.	[20:43]
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dwon	;;getrating dwon	[20:44]
jcpham	you will need to re-auth if you have not done so since gribble's return	[20:44]
nanotube	dwon: gribble's connection timed out, so all auths were lost.	[20:44]
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hyphaestus	yall got some coins?	[20:45]
copumpkin	nope, none of us	[20:45]
jcpham	WTB MTGOXUSD or quantities of BTC with PP - rated buyer!	[20:45]
nanotube	just pretending	[20:45]
dwon	nanotube: weird. I'd expect that gribble would de-voice everyone when it rejoins, but I guess that would also be strange	[20:45]
hyphaestus	the coinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn	[20:46]
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gigavps	hyphaestus i have coins for cash in the mail	[20:47]
hyphaestus	really? thats cool	[20:47]
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*	gribble gives voice to dwon	[20:47]
*	gribble gives voice to dwon	[20:47]
gigavps	yep, as many as you want	[20:47]
dwon	Could that be a DoS attack against gribble?	[20:48]
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dwon	(the fact that I seem to be able to tell it "letmein" as many times as I want... could I make it drop with "Excess flood"?)	[20:50]
lueo	hi everyone.I have a lot of MTGUSD and BTC, How do I exchange them to LibertyReserve as quick as possible without using the bitcoin-otc?	[20:50]
rawrmage	i doubt it	[20:50]
nanotube	dwon: voice is only cosmetic (or for when channel is +m). not to be taken as indication of being authed.	[20:50]
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nanotube	dwon: no, gribble's message queue is ratelimited.	[20:50]
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nanotube	gigavps: i want 22million :)	[20:51]
dwon	nanotube: Good to know (about both of the things you just said :) )	[20:52]
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copumpkin	nanotube: ship me eleventy quadrillion USD and I'll send you 22 million btc	[20:52]
dwon	I'll handle the escrow for you both.	[20:52]
nanotube	copumpkin: lol ok, let me just print out an eleventy quadrillion USD note	[20:52]
nanotube	i'll probably have to use scientific notation, will that be ok? ;)	[20:53]
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dwon	nanotube: floating-point USD?	[20:53]
gigavps	nanotube please send 110m in cash to my address	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	no e's tho nanotube	[20:53]
nanotube	or would you prefer to see all the zeros explicitly	[20:53]
nanotube	gigavps: see, 110m cash is actually possible. :P (though maybe not for me, at this moment. :D )	[20:54]
LordCanti	hmm	[20:54]
LordCanti	;;bids --under 1	[20:54]
LordCanti	There are currently 26380083 bitcoins demanded at or under 1.0 USD, worth 88105.8458257 USD in total.	[20:54]
LordCanti	isn't that more BTC than will ever exist?	[20:54]
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nanotube	yes	[20:54]
Blitzboom	very clever	[20:54]
nanotube	but that doesn't mean people can't want to buy them.	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	yup	[20:55]
LordCanti	I wonder what will happen if the price actually drops that low and mtgox tried to put those orders through?	[20:55]
LordCanti	unless they don't put through automatically	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	some would get filled.	[20:55]
Blitzboom	i don’t understand the question	[20:55]
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LordCanti	maybe I need to learn more about how the exchanges work	[20:56]
nanotube	LordCanti: they can't, since it is impossible to sell that many coins :P	[20:56]
nanotube	and mtgox requires full reserve to sell.	[20:56]
dwon	MtGox will only fill buy orders when there are corresponding ask orders, so unless somebody deposits 26m BTC into MtGox (impossible without fraud or a change in the protocol) there's effectively a 1.0 USD price floor on BTC	[20:56]
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gigavps	when you guys are done arguing, please send me my cash	[20:56]
mcorlett	gigavps: PayPal's fine, I take it?	[20:57]
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gigavps	i do not accept paypal	[20:57]
gigavps	cash is king	[20:57]
LordCanti	gigavps, no arguing, just playing with gribble commands	[20:57]
copumpkin	I wonder how mircea_popescu's options compare to bitcoinica's leverage, for leveraged trading	[20:57]
LordCanti	and discovered that	[20:57]
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Blitzboom	copumpkin: anything is better than bitcoinica	[20:57]
copumpkin	lol	[20:57]
copumpkin	so I take it you've run the numbers?	[20:58]
Blitzboom	nope	[20:58]
Blitzboom	but you cannot be zhoutonged on options	[20:58]
copumpkin	yeah, but they expire at a fixed time	[20:58]
mcorlett	mircea'd?	[20:58]
copumpkin	so the zhoutonging is time-based, not price-based	[20:58]
gigavps	Blitzboom you can	[20:58]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: would you object to being verbed?	[20:58]
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Blitzboom	how can you be mircaed?	[20:59]
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mcorlett	mir-what?	[20:59]
copumpkin	when your options expire	[20:59]
copumpkin	they're worthless	[20:59]
Blitzboom	sure	[20:59]
BTC_Bear	popexecuted	[20:59]
Blitzboom	but you can’t get fucked for certain fluctuations	[20:59]
copumpkin	yeah	[21:00]
copumpkin	it's predictable	[21:00]
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mircea_popescu	copumpkin i tend to rarely object . what's being verbed exactly ?	[21:00]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: you know, like zhoutonging is now a verb	[21:00]
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Blitzboom	maybe popescu is better suited	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	lol kinda hmm... you've been popescud ?	[21:00]
dwon	lol	[21:01]
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mircea_popescu	but anyway, as to the leveraged point : you can get a lot more leverage with options than with any bitcoinica-style system	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	except you don't get to fine tune it exactly the same.	[21:01]
copumpkin	yeah	[21:01]
Blitzboom	you offer more than 10:1?	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	sure Blitzboom	[21:02]
copumpkin	it's not explicit like that	[21:02]
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copumpkin	you just buy in-the-money or near-the-money options and hope shit moves in the right direction, then sell them back to him/exercise	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	point in case : if you buy 1000 calls at 7.0 they cost you 31.86050114 right now. if the btc goes to 17 that's 588.2 btc for you.	[21:03]
copumpkin	case in point :)	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	if you figure in dollars, $150 yielded a 10k usd payout, the equivalent of 1k btc's appreciation	[21:03]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: you should let us type numbers into your pricing algorithm so we can predict gains :) :) :)	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	or 30x leverage	[21:03]
bougyman	betting on the margin is fools gold.	[21:03]
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mircea_popescu	and yea, point in case lol	[21:04]
*	copumpkin points into the case	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	any beer left ?	[21:04]
bougyman	si	[21:04]
copumpkin	nope :(	[21:04]
copumpkin	bougyman stole it!!	[21:04]
bougyman	i've got one dogfish head 60 minute left	[21:04]
bougyman	then I need another beer run	[21:04]
copumpkin	he's got it stashed under his bed	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	ofcourse the problem with this 30x leverage is that you only get it for speciffic bets, which may or may not be what you want to do	[21:04]
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copumpkin	;;calc 588/32	[21:05]
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bitcoinTrader	;;seen gusti	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin : you still control the appreciation of 1k bitcoins. by it going to 17 that's worth x. if it went to 27 it'd be worth more etc.	[21:06]
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mircea_popescu	so the leverage is what you actually have (30 odd btc) vs what you control (1k)	[21:06]
copumpkin	yep	[21:06]
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chk	mind == blown	[21:06]
jjjrmy-m-m	You guys should watch my SWORL livestream	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	if short, you get loads of leverage for unlikely bets, and less leverage (in the 2-5 range) for likelier bets	[21:07]
hyphaestus	cool mang	[21:08]
copumpkin	well, we can sell the options back to you at any point	[21:08]
copumpkin	but yeah, I see what you mean	[21:08]
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mircea_popescu	can also sell them on the market, as in, put a bid/ask for them	[21:09]
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mircea_popescu	(im kind of surprised not more people do this - seems everyone prefers instant guaranteed trades)	[21:09]
copumpkin	then we need a VIX on MPOE	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	what's a vix ?	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	a a	[21:10]
copumpkin	volatility index	[21:10]
Blitzboom	volatility index	[21:10]
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mircea_popescu	i think that's tm	[21:10]
copumpkin	yeah, I didn't mean specifically called VIX :)	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, will be a lot more useful once the mm does half or less of the trades i think	[21:11]
copumpkin	lol	[21:11]
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mircea_popescu	speaking of option strategies --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.msg816273#msg816273 new post, about advanced hedging (calls)	[21:16]
BTCHero	;;seen ocminer	[21:17]
hyphaestus	how the fbi manufactures its own "terror plots" and then pretends to "thwart" them: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/20/fbi-informant	[21:18]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: your PR woman has an odd tendency to use an unconventional digit separator just like you do ◔_◔	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	that's my text lol	[21:18]
Optimo	was' poppin	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	it may come as a shock to you, but the job of pr people is NOT creative.	[21:19]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: speaking of that text, it looks like a nice example that might be useful to attach to the site itself. Like actually having a "help" section	[21:19]
bluefirecorp	we need a world standard for fucking the delimiter in money. >.<	[21:19]
hyphaestus	copumpkin: are you saying the PR person is really the other person?	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	bluefirecorp ++	[21:19]
copumpkin	hyphaestus: nah, just teasing mircea_popescu	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin that may be a good ideea... was sorta half considering making a forum	[21:19]
hyphaestus	is this a tom williams style menagerie of sockpopuppets	[21:19]
Optimo	crankyankers	[21:20]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: the thing about forums is that they aren't the first place most people reach to learn about things	[21:20]
copumpkin	hey Optimo	[21:20]
copumpkin	long time no see	[21:20]
Optimo	yo copumpkin ;)	[21:20]
Optimo	copumpkin. lol apparently we don't hang out in the same chatrooms much ;p	[21:20]
copumpkin	yeah	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	yeah. so still thinking about best way to go about it. btctalk seems to attract a chunk of the more eager if less... hmm... informed people in the bitcoin world.	[21:20]
copumpkin	:)	[21:20]
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copumpkin	mircea_popescu: post all over the SR forums ;)	[21:21]
hyphaestus	mircea_popescu is cool.. and his pr lady is hot. hopesfully she's real hehe	[21:21]
Optimo	it's just people looking for coins /now/	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	hyphaestus quite the team huh.	[21:21]
Optimo	and people trying to manipulate otehrs lol	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin which are the sr forums again ?	[21:21]
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copumpkin	mircea_popescu: open torbrowser, visit the SR address, navigate to forums :) I haven't been there in ages and we're not supposed to talk about it in here, anyway, but I remember them being quite active	[21:22]
*	mircea_popescu has never been on tor.	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	too lazy.	[21:22]
copumpkin	it's a whole new world!	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	ya im sure. how could it be new ?	[21:22]
copumpkin	undergronud hacker forums, drug forums, DDOS for hire, etc.	[21:22]
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Optimo	blacker than my balls	[21:22]
copumpkin	all the good stuff, basically	[21:22]
mod6	:D	[21:23]
copumpkin	Optimo has black balls?	[21:23]
Blitzboom	copumpkin: you forgot the cp	[21:23]
copumpkin	Blitzboom: I often do	[21:23]
Optimo	imagine my nuts..ok.. now imagine them covered in molasses	[21:23]
tbage	YES	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	aite, if i ever want ddos for hire im sure to remember it lol	[21:23]
copumpkin	lol	[21:23]
tbage	OH GOD	[21:23]
copumpkin	okay, no more testicles!	[21:23]
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Blitzboom	so, is there more material of his pr girl?	[21:24]
Blitzboom	:D	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	and by material you ofcourse mean text	[21:24]
Blitzboom	ASCII pictures	[21:24]
Optimo	ascii pr0n?	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	ima get on her case to change her avatar maybe.	[21:24]
rg	some of my plants arent doing well	[21:24]
Optimo	btc4porn	[21:24]
rg	i trimmed off the dead leafs today	[21:25]
Optimo	we're still positive for the last 12 months wooo	[21:25]
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bitcoinTrader	selling btc	[21:26]
Optimo	$5 is sticking nicely lately	[21:26]
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copumpkin	Optimo: don't jinx us	[21:26]
Optimo	anyone seen Bearbones lately? noticed he's selling bitmunchies site	[21:26]
Blitzboom	copumpkin: seriously	[21:26]
Optimo	I could jinx a lot harder if I had some cash to spare ;)	[21:27]
copumpkin	lol	[21:27]
Blitzboom	hahaha	[21:27]
Optimo	$5 month-to-month is looking real stable. so where's all the newfangled btc stores?	[21:27]
copumpkin	lol	[21:28]
copumpkin	coming soon!	[21:28]
Blitzboom	hahahahahaha	[21:28]
copumpkin	oh wait	[21:28]
Blitzboom	what do you want, "the armory" has opened up recently	[21:28]
copumpkin	that's imsaguy/imsaguy2's trademark	[21:28]
Blitzboom	new branch from SR for guns	[21:28]
Optimo	ah	[21:28]
copumpkin	oh yeah?	[21:28]
copumpkin	lol	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	leaves rg	[21:28]
Optimo	now I'm following along	[21:28]
copumpkin	Blitzboom: what if I want illegal animals?	[21:28]
copumpkin	I really need a pet manatee	[21:29]
Optimo	rg blow some of this ish smoke on em	[21:29]
Blitzboom	copumpkin: dunno	[21:29]
copumpkin	and I don't think I'm allowed to get one	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin you'd be its pet most likely. sheer matter of size.	[21:29]
Blitzboom	haven’t seen any live stuff on SR	[21:29]
copumpkin	also, there's that guy who wants a platypus on the forum	[21:29]
Optimo	I got dat purp	[21:29]
sturles	One of my regular customers have sent their coins to this address a couple of days after receivin from me: 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM	[21:29]
sturles	Check it out! Total balance is 178990 coins!	[21:29]
copumpkin	probably SR joint account?	[21:30]
Optimo	is that a escrow box?	[21:30]
Blitzboom	sturles: good to know we have such early adopters	[21:30]
Blitzboom	totally unexpected :D	[21:30]
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Optimo	young address?	[21:30]
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Blitzboom	First seen?: Block 161427 (2012-01-09 16:37:57)	[21:31]
sturles	Quite young, yes.	[21:31]
Blitzboom	2 1/2 months old	[21:31]
Blitzboom	sturles: this customer of yours, which transaction was his?	[21:31]
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sturles	I'm nore revealing that.	[21:32]
sturles	not	[21:32]
sturles	There are more than one, btw.	[21:32]
brute	please msg me if you can exchange 1400usd to btc	[21:32]
Blitzboom	i’m just wondering if you know the business	[21:32]
copumpkin	sturles: I'm going to bet it's a large escrow account or possibly even mtgox	[21:33]
sturles	I don't know the business, no.	[21:33]
copumpkin	and that the 170k aren't just his	[21:33]
Blitzboom	well, the evenly numbered incoming amunts are odd	[21:33]
sturles	Could be mtgox or some other exchange, yes.	[21:33]
Elio19	sturles, is that in one address or the whole wallet?	[21:34]
Blitzboom	1 address	[21:34]
copumpkin	we can't look up wallets	[21:34]
copumpkin	we can loosely correlate addresses into wallets, sometimes	[21:34]
copumpkin	but can never be sure we have all of them	[21:34]
Elio19	good to know copumpkin, who is we?	[21:35]
copumpkin	people	[21:35]
copumpkin	and gourds	[21:35]
Blitzboom	has any thief ever been catched due to bitcoin’s block chain?	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	sturles : tell him to buy options :D	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	FOR ALL THE MONEYSSSS	[21:35]
Blitzboom	it seems to me that bitcoin is quite anonymous if no hacker and no large SR dealers have been identified yet	[21:36]
helo	i bet a few fbi informants have been created using it :)	[21:36]
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Blitzboom	contrary to what people claim	[21:36]
sturles	Here is another strange one. One of the transactions went to the previous address and this one: 1C86pWBp4515jjoFeZhLwTeSTnqQ6ytsob	[21:36]
helo	if someone gets busted, they're going to be busted by the fbi, and the fbi is going to keep them quiet and leverage them to work up the distribution chain	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom pretty much.	[21:37]
sturles	Long list of receive from addresses, giving atotal of 0.01006661 coins.	[21:37]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: double edged sword	[21:37]
Optimo	sturles a pool maybe?	[21:38]
Optimo	very weird	[21:38]
Blitzboom	i doubt a pool has that much	[21:38]
sturles	Why would he send to a pool?	[21:38]
Blitzboom	it’s either an exchange or an early adopter	[21:39]
Blitzboom	an exchange = gox	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	maybe it's th's legal fund	[21:39]
copumpkin	or SR	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	BURY DWOLLA	[21:39]
Blitzboom	legal fund?	[21:39]
copumpkin	I'd imagine it's SR, honestly	[21:39]
copumpkin	I've seen that address before	[21:39]
BTC_Bear	sturles: tracking your customers?	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	seriously sturles, how much do you want to give him a 30 second pitch about options ?	[21:40]
sturles	Not normally, but he supposedly bought more a week ago, and I haven't received the money or seen him after that.	[21:40]
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BTC_Bear	ah...	[21:41]
sturles	No, I don't encourage people to invest in anything.	[21:41]
Blitzboom	sturles: can you disclose what business you conducted?	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	awww k.	[21:41]
sturles	I only sold him coins several times. All to the same address.	[21:41]
Blitzboom	four digit vol.?	[21:42]
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sturles	If this is SR, then SR is a lot larger than i thought. Never been there myself.	[21:42]
Blitzboom	i assure you, besides mtgox, SR is probably the largest business in the bitcoin world	[21:42]
sturles	Only two digit volumes.	[21:42]
sturles	(in BTC)	[21:43]
copumpkin	sturles: I'd guess that the address he gave you to send was a personal deposit address in SR, which probably then gets mixed into a huge jumbler for their escrow stuff	[21:43]
Blitzboom	then it is weird he sent a few thousand	[21:43]
copumpkin	I can't think of anything else large enough	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	i doubt sr is that big.	[21:43]
sturles	He didn't send a few thousand. His address is just one of the many.	[21:43]
Optimo	did something happen with TH in the last several months? I've been out of the loop here	[21:43]
Optimo	did they launch bitcoin.com ?	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	they went under Optimo	[21:44]
Optimo	LOL	[21:44]
Optimo	like, not enough profits forced them out of the game or they just gave up?	[21:44]
Blitzboom	sturles: huh? i see almost none which are not a few thousand recently	[21:45]
Optimo	mircea_popescu, thanks I will read up on the subject	[21:45]
Blitzboom	anyway	[21:45]
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mircea_popescu	Optimo their story is that dwolla stole ~100k usd from their account and that did it	[21:46]
Blitzboom	we need better tools for analysis	[21:46]
Optimo	yep I went bitcoin-agnostic for about 4 months so I missed that event	[21:46]
Optimo	I also doubled my money apprently	[21:47]
bonks	is dwolla's primary business around bitcoins?	[21:47]
Blitzboom	bitcoin is a religion?	[21:47]
copumpkin	Optimo: by the exchange rate doubling?	[21:47]
Optimo	bonks, you could say so since they are were one of those popular methods for getting funding into mtgox	[21:47]
Optimo	copumpkin.. uhh not sure. whenever btc went from ~$2.50 to $5 I made double ;)	[21:48]
copumpkin	lol	[21:48]
bonks	Optimo: I ask because i discovered dwolla because of bitcoins, but bitcoins advertise sending/receiving money from friends, facebook, etc	[21:48]
copumpkin	that's not particularly surprising	[21:48]
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Optimo	bonks, I thikn they were a startup that had a huge boost from the btc craze and mtgox	[21:48]
Optimo	bitcoin is 'merely' technology	[21:49]
neofutur	what do you mean with " bitcoins advertise sending/receiving money from friends, facebook" bonks	[21:49]
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neofutur	how is bitcoin related to facebook ?	[21:49]
neofutur	and what is ". . ." ?	[21:50]
bonks	sorry i meant "dwolla advertised..."	[21:50]
neofutur	ok	[21:50]
Blitzboom	good to see we bootstrapped dwolla and they raped us	[21:50]
Optimo	it is, however, realted to the Internet so all that could be considered in a loose line of reasoning	[21:50]
neofutur	"we bootstrapped dwolla and they raped us" <-- 100 % agreed	[21:50]
Blitzboom	that’s almost as bad as the EFF’s betrayal	[21:50]
LordCanti	what did the EFF do?	[21:51]
neofutur	even worst imo	[21:51]
bonks	ie. Dwolla android app says nothing about bitcoins	[21:51]
Optimo	Blitzboom I guess if TH customers got raped. but if you were mtgox maybe you could get some favor from dwolla - you do a lot of biz with them	[21:51]
neofutur	loosing the second echange is really bad	[21:51]
neofutur	after echb also closed . . .	[21:51]
pigeons	LordCanti: EFF started taking bitcoin donations, then stopped	[21:51]
sturles	Blitzboom: All the transactions with several thousand has many inputs. The value is the sum of all inputs.	[21:51]
neofutur	exchb	[21:51]
LordCanti	wtf	[21:51]
coingenuity	i miss exchb :(	[21:51]
bonks	are there Dwolla competitors? i havent seen much, but i'd expect more	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	EFF are government goons.	[21:51]
pigeons	lawyers said anonymous donations may mess up non-profit status	[21:51]
neofutur	I also badly miss exchb	[21:51]
Blitzboom	sturles: sure, but it’s one single transaction from one wallet per?	[21:51]
LordCanti	did they state why?	[21:51]
Optimo	neofutur, and yet I didn't see a huge crash after this. wasn't Th's volume still not even 5% of the total?	[21:51]
neofutur	was my preferred exchange after mtgox	[21:51]
coingenuity	LordCanti: they weren't making enough $ and it was a hassle for them	[21:52]
neofutur	th vloume was between 5% and 10 % iirc	[21:52]
coingenuity	neofutur: yep, and a huge portion of that was me tbh	[21:52]
pigeons	coingenuity: but their stated reason was the lawyers won't let them	[21:52]
Optimo	bonks, dwolla is a new concept if I recall what I read.. competitors would just now be starting to mimmick their organization	[21:52]
LordCanti	that makes no sense, BTC is the least amount of hassle	[21:52]
Blitzboom	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/06/eff-and-bitcoin	[21:52]
Blitzboom	here it is	[21:52]
Elio19	Take EFF with grain of salt, what is their new Observatory for?	[21:52]
coingenuity	pigeons: that too, money transmission in the usa is hard	[21:53]
neofutur	I didnt like TH , i didnt like their supporet, hated their web interface . . . but still bitcoin need more than one exchange	[21:53]
coingenuity	LordCanti: it was running a bitcoin business for no profit that was a hassle, not dealing with the protocol itself ;)	[21:53]
neofutur	I tried to send them feedback more than once, but they never changed anything in their web UI	[21:53]
Blitzboom	the EFF is the reason why the humble bundle for instance will not accept bitcoin	[21:53]
coingenuity	ugh, i hate TH	[21:53]
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Blitzboom	they explicitely advised against it	[21:53]
coingenuity	time after time i would get them to do the most basic shit.....just would not	[21:53]
coingenuity	and FFS EVERY single deposit must be confirmed by hand?	[21:54]
coingenuity	th == ffffffffffffffff	[21:54]
sturles	Blitzboom: What do you mean? There are transactions with many inputs. E.g. this one: http://blockexplorer.com/tx/e2453c0ba2318cefa55f04196d1922863bb308d4122cbdb15e712c2a42843e4d#o1	[21:54]
neonindian	Does anybody selling BTC through PayPal? PM me if interested. Thanks	[21:54]
coingenuity	cuz i REALLY want to wait an extra 3 days on top of whatever deposit method i used for my transfer to get approved...	[21:54]
Optimo	I still don't fully grasp why they chose to go that way - EFF seems to otherwise adore being risque. but when there's money involved and they have exployees to pay there are probably money-guys calling that shot	[21:54]
copumpkin	sturles: that really suggests what I was saying	[21:54]
Blitzboom	sturles: what i am talking about is that the entirety of this transaction was initiated by 1 user	[21:54]
coingenuity	Blitzboom: hm?	[21:55]
Blitzboom	so the 4k or whatever belong to one wallet	[21:55]
neofutur	namecoin will soon have a historeical data website : http://namecoin.gw.gd/monthly/nmc_monthly.php	[21:55]
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Blitzboom	am i wrong?	[21:55]
pigeons	they have to report where their donation come from, and in usa there are restrictions on speech/money/bits that say they can't get more than X from one person if the person is a certain class political group	[21:55]
sturles	Yes, it suggests an exchange or something.	[21:55]
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Blitzboom	or something silky roady	[21:55]
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sturles	Poosibly.	[21:56]
pigeons	well they have those restrictions or else they pay taxes directly	[21:56]
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neofutur	neonindian: state the price you want for your pp$	[21:56]
sturles	Shady person. Negotiates a deal and don't pay.	[21:56]
Optimo	pigeons, yes but they took it a step further didn't they? They could have said 'here's great new technology that is promising for internet payments, but due to restrictions we cannot'	[21:56]
Blitzboom	sturles: so he scammed you out of bitcoins?	[21:56]
sturles	INo	[21:57]
sturles	I never planned to send until I got the money.	[21:57]
neofutur	sturles: who ?	[21:57]
sturles	So I still have the BTC.	[21:57]
Optimo	whatever EFF stated was taken strongly by some as a signal. it was not handled wisely	[21:57]
Blitzboom	yes, it still is negative in terms of legitimacy	[21:58]
Blitzboom	recently i’ve read someone argue bitcoin is dead and bring this as an example	[21:58]
Optimo	we can get eff talking about btc without them having to clash with some silly restrictions. things will change eventually.	[21:59]
Optimo	embrace change	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	in a sense people arghuing bitcoin is dead is good for bitcoin.	[21:59]
Blitzboom	it would have been better if they never accepted it	[21:59]
rg	man	[22:00]
rg	lovebitcoins.org is pretty	[22:00]
Optimo	all I know is some day, some day soon I will be able to give my thumbprint to doante % to save the clock tower	[22:00]
Elio19	?	[22:02]
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bitcoinTrader	does any1 know how to transfer the gpg key from 1 comp to another?	[22:03]
bonks	bitcoinTrader: %appdata%/gnupg maybe?	[22:03]
bitcoinTrader	I have the key setup on windows	[22:03]
bitcoinTrader	I want to transfer the key on my mac now	[22:04]
bonks	i just copied the files from there to my other machine, both windows	[22:04]
Cusipzzz	Optimo: wow, long timeno see	[22:04]
bitcoinTrader	hmm	[22:04]
bitcoinTrader	copy paste works?	[22:04]
Blitzboom	yes, works	[22:04]
bitcoinTrader	k.. will try	[22:05]
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bitcoinTrader	GNU installation will be required? :-S	[22:05]
bonks	Blitzboom: i just copied all files, the pubring, random_seed, secring, and trustdb, is this safe/ok?	[22:05]
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Blitzboom	sounds fine	[22:06]
Blitzboom	afaik one only needs secring/pubring, but i’m no gpg guru	[22:07]
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draco49	yeah that's correct... you only need pubring and secring	[22:07]
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draco49	random_seed and trustdb should not be copied	[22:08]
hyphaestus	wuttup brosto	[22:08]
dwon	trustdb can be copied. random_seed should not be	[22:08]
bitcoinTrader	:-S	[22:09]
Optimo	hi Cusipzzz ;)	[22:09]
bitcoinTrader	what I have is this;	[22:09]
bitcoinTrader	I have the gpg key setup in windows	[22:10]
draco49	If you're moving from one version of gpg to another, as is likely the case since he's moving from Windows to Mac, you should only import the key rings. Then you should re-establish your trust settings after the import.	[22:10]
bitcoinTrader	I want to use in mac	[22:10]
dwon	draco49: ah, good point	[22:10]
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bitcoinTrader	I think I had installed something while setting up gpg	[22:10]
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draco49	just put put your Window secring and pubring file onto the Mac and do an import.	[22:11]
bitcoinTrader	ok	[22:11]
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Optimo	wtf is System-D..	[22:12]
draco49	Some French term for a shadow economy.	[22:12]
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Optimo	sounds good to me	[22:14]
hyphaestus	any bros have coins	[22:14]
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BTC_Bear	System-D is the black-market but used as a less nefarious meaning	[22:17]
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Elio19	Does anyone have knowledge about OSCP?	[22:17]
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Optimo	I only bring it up because of the article on forbes, btw	[22:17]
BTC_Bear	Buying Cigs for $2 per pack rather than $6, is System-D	[22:18]
hyphaestus	D:> dir	[22:18]
ageis	just export and import bro	[22:18]
Optimo	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/03/19/could-bitcoin-become-the-currency-of-system-d/	[22:18]
Blitzboom	system-d = free market	[22:19]
BTC_Bear	Optimo: Should say, Future Currency. Author is obviously an idiot. Cash (all Cash) is the money for System D	[22:20]
Optimo	I wouldn't say he's an idiot, but that is a mistake indeed	[22:20]
BTC_Bear	agreed	[22:20]
BTC_Bear	Retract idiot	[22:21]
Optimo	he touches on the person-to=person qualification for a classical system-d tx	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	willing to pay one btc for non-idiot mainstream media article author.	[22:21]
Optimo	it's not a half-bad article, if a latecomer	[22:21]
BTC_Bear	match the funds for that mircea_popescu	[22:21]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: you pay peanuts, you get monkeys	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom kinda, yea. most "press" these days is done by unpaid "interns"	[22:22]
Cusipzzz	Blitzboom: wouldn't that be bananas?	[22:22]
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mircea_popescu	BTC_Bear i just meant, for an example of.	[22:22]
jjjrmy-m-m	Hello people	[22:22]
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imsaguy	<+copumpkin> coming soon! << that'll be 2 btc	[22:24]
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Optimo	TIL: humans peel a banana from the wrong side, monkeys start peeling from what I call the 'bottom' (non-stem end)	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	romanians do it that way optimo	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	EVERYONE else doesn't.	[22:25]
Optimo	u romanian?	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	yea	[22:26]
Optimo	lol	[22:26]
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copumpkin	Optimo: I do it from the easy side too	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	you're a gourd!	[22:26]
Optimo	tru monkey	[22:26]
Optimo	I haven't met a 3-letter word that I didn't love using	[22:27]
neofutur	http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/should-africa-adopt-a-shared-currency-and-should-it-be-bitcoin/254881/	[22:27]
hyphaestus	yes and yes	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	so let's re-do the game of "guess how many comments my blog got this month, you get 0.that many bitcoins".	[22:27]
Optimo	0x0	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	moar.	[22:27]
hyphaestus	mircea_popescu: i guess 51	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:27]
Optimo	0x1	[22:27]
jjjrmy-m-m	;;eauth jjjrmy	[22:27]
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hyphaestus	52	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:28]
Blitzboom	80	[22:28]
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mircea_popescu	more.	[22:29]
Blitzboom	122	[22:29]
jjjrmy-m-m	will you guys watch my livestream?	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:29]
Blitzboom	197	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:29]
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mircea_popescu	this is fun already.	[22:29]
Blitzboom	327	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:30]
Blitzboom	688	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:30]
Blitzboom	hahaha oh god	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	yeah :D	[22:30]
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hyphaestus	your blog gets a lot of traffic	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	kinda.	[22:30]
Blitzboom	1246	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:30]
Blitzboom	2468	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	less.	[22:30]
Blitzboom	1888	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	didn't think you'd live to see that huh.	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	less.	[22:30]
bonks	1500	[22:31]
rawrmage	1100	[22:31]
Blitzboom	1567	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:31]
rawrmage	1320	[22:31]
hyphaestus	1660	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	more.	[22:31]
rawrmage	1750	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	> 1750.	[22:31]
draco49	1775	[22:31]
chk	1900	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	< 1900	[22:31]
rawrmage	1800	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	> 1800	[22:31]
rawrmage	1850	[22:31]
hyphaestus	1854	[22:31]
chk	1780	[22:31]
Optimo	all of romania	[22:31]
draco49	1846	[22:31]
Blitzboom	1851	[22:31]
jjjrmy-m-m	Hey, have you guys seen the transactions to and from this address: 1HhhsA31GSpRz2pbbV3dtfJjYGKrtHbnZL	[22:31]
draco49	1860	[22:32]
hyphaestus	1894	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	ok, betqeen 1846 and 1780	[22:32]
hyphaestus	1838	[22:32]
Blitzboom	1822	[22:32]
jjjrmy-m-m	~1.5k sent and received	[22:32]
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draco49	1827	[22:32]
chk	1845	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	> 1838	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	< 1845	[22:32]
draco49	1841	[22:32]
hyphaestus	1845	[22:32]
bonks	1813	[22:32]
hyphaestus	1843	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	> 41	[22:32]
rawrmage	1843	[22:32]
draco49	1842	[22:32]
hyphaestus	1842	[22:32]
rawrmage	1842	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	1843 has it!	[22:32]
Blitzboom	1839	[22:32]
chk	1844	[22:32]
rawrmage	lol	[22:32]
chk	fuck my life	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	hyphaestus address ?	[22:32]
hyphaestus	i win!!	[22:32]
hyphaestus	hahah!!	[22:32]
chk	//wrists	[22:32]
amiller	that's dumb	[22:32]
jjjrmy-m-m	how much did he win?	[22:32]
draco49	I never win anything :(	[22:33]
Blitzboom	now that’s 18 BTC?	[22:33]
chk	$100000000000000000000	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	A LOAD!!11	[22:33]
Blitzboom	nice :D	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	that's precisely 0.1843 btc	[22:33]
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jjjrmy-m-m	isn't there #bitcoin-gambling	[22:33]
jjjrmy-m-m	just for gambling	[22:33]
amiller	#bitcoin-games	[22:33]
Blitzboom	hahaha	[22:33]
Blitzboom	it was fun though	[22:33]
chk	this wasnt gambling	[22:33]
chk	:P	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	i had to read all that shit. > 10k words ffs.	[22:33]
chk	there was no initial investment	[22:33]
jjjrmy-m-m	oh	[22:33]
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mircea_popescu	rawrmage nearly got it too, couplaseconds	[22:34]
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draco49	he would have just spent it on pony gear	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	eeek fee! so unfair!	[22:35]
hyphaestus	what is your blog address?	[22:35]
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mircea_popescu	trilema.com takes you there	[22:36]
hyphaestus	koolz	[22:36]
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hyphaestus	chrome is translating	[22:37]
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rg	just give me dentastix	[22:38]
rg	just give me dentastix	[22:38]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: am i the only one who gets a 403?	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	possibly.	[22:38]
Blitzboom	and a 404	[22:38]
Optimo	rg: this bong's fer u	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	pm your ip ?	[22:38]
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hyphaestus	dentastix	[22:38]
rg	its a trick	[22:38]
rg	get an axe	[22:38]
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hyphaestus	denastix	[22:39]
hyphaestus	isnt that like chewing on a minty allen wrench	[22:40]
Optimo	neofutur: why does that africa article say tradehill is/was the largest exchange of btc for $	[22:40]
draco49	The writer was an idiot.	[22:40]
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hyphaestus	i won 0.1843 BTC !!! thx mircea_popescu!!!	[22:40]
Optimo	nice	[22:40]
Optimo	rate him ;)	[22:41]
hyphaestus	good idea	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	ma pleasure!	[22:41]
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draco49	At the time they closed, TH had less than 5% of the total exchange trade volume.	[22:41]
ne0futur	Optimo: i didnt write the article, i dont say its good or true	[22:41]
ne0futur	just sharing information ;)	[22:41]
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Optimo	cool and whoa you have two nicks?	[22:42]
Optimo	;)	[22:42]
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draco49	The writer is another Bitcoin-naysayer who begins with the premise that Bitcoin is doomed to failure.	[22:42]
vragnaroda	ne0futur: Did you know Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990?	[22:42]
vragnaroda	I'm not saying he did. I'm just asking.	[22:42]
Blitzboom	which article are you talking about?	[22:42]
danieldaniel	anyone have a youtube viewing/sub bot?	[22:43]
ne0futur	Optimo: but thanks for the report, i ll tell mtgox to ask for a corrective	[22:43]
hyphaestus	well bitcoin can be taken down, but its just very expensive. would a blackhat / govt do that? seems unlikely	[22:43]
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Optimo	np. I stopped reading it after that anyway	[22:43]
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dwon	You guys need to get your facts straight. TradeHill was _clearly_ the largest bitcoin exchange. Also, I'm the highest-rated person in this channel.	[22:44]
draco49	http://www.technologyreview.com/business/39829/?p1=BI	[22:44]
ne0futur	Blitzboom: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/should-africa-adopt-a-shared-currency-and-should-it-be-bitcoin/254881/	[22:44]
Blitzboom	thx	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	how exactly can btc be "taken down "?	[22:44]
Optimo	hyphaestus, you could almost wager that our community would come to find out about it and if such a travesty were to occur we could assemble to start a new chain of trust	[22:44]
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mircea_popescu	dwon orly ?	[22:44]
hyphaestus	nsa's computers are busy mapping out relationships between people on facebook according to their political affiliations and trying to detect pockets of "extremism"	[22:44]
ne0futur	vragnaroda: is your question related to me posting this article ?	[22:44]
ne0futur	is it forbidden to share news sources ?	[22:45]
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g04	yes	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Option_orders can someone edit that to mention mpoe ?	[22:45]
ne0futur	I dont even know who is glenn beck and I dont know how its related to bitcoin	[22:45]
hyphaestus	nsa's computers are busy doing sentiment analysis on twitter posts and trying to root out terrorists / people who drink unpasteurized milk	[22:45]
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mircea_popescu	i drink unpasteurized milk	[22:46]
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mircea_popescu	often enough directly from the woman.	[22:46]
Optimo	I drink terrorist milk	[22:46]
draco49	Don't try that in Wisconsin.	[22:46]
hyphaestus	the fda is monitoring this chat!!	[22:46]
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copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I just had a bottle of unpasteurized milk	[22:46]
Optimo	and teh USDA apparently	[22:46]
danieldaniel	anyone have a youtube bot?	[22:46]
ne0futur	vragnaroda: but i ll answer you, I dont know it and i m not interested	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin bottles are for pasteurissies :D	[22:46]
hyphaestus	in the US, sellign raw milk can bring a SWAT team down on u	[22:46]
dwon	vragnaroda: heh	[22:47]
Optimo	straight from the teet eh	[22:47]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I don't have any cows to drink directly from, and I don't do lactating women	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	i don't have any cows either	[22:47]
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mircea_popescu	besides, kinda iffy to suckle a cow.	[22:47]
Optimo	straight-up badger milk	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	it could get a sudden erection	[22:47]
draco49	A hardened teat?	[22:47]
Optimo	three's company	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:48]
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vragnaroda	ne0futur: The point is that posting content and immediately disassociating yourself with it and just saying someone's saying it is disingenuous at best. It's behavior that Glenn Beck was commonly associated with and resulted in someone registering a domain just to ask that question, which was googlebombed into being a high result after searching Glenn Beck.	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	someone should tell that woman with the human milk icecream in australia that got closed down to take it to sr	[22:48]
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mircea_popescu	gribble is an op now ?~!	[22:49]
ne0futur	vragnaroda: ok I ll stop sharing news sources here	[22:49]
vragnaroda	ne0futur: In short, that behavior is the epitome of what's so odious about mainstream media.	[22:49]
ne0futur	you should add this rule on	[22:49]
draco49	SkyNeat...	[22:49]
ne0futur	http://bit.ly/x56Fd5	[22:49]
draco49	*net	[22:49]
mircea_popescu	so let me get this straight. going http://url <<< what a load of crock is no good ?	[22:49]
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Optimo	in this channel specifically it has some .. broader implications by posting it	[22:50]
ne0futur	bit coin related news are probably not useful for traders	[22:50]
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Optimo	well some crazy person could question your motives, but this channel is always terrible on policing influencers	[22:50]
ne0futur	mainstream media news have no influence on bitcoin price for sure and traders dont need them	[22:50]
BTC_Bear	Just speak in Zen Tomes: A wall is a wall unless it is brick.	[22:51]
vragnaroda	It's not a rule in the sense of a prescriptive standard ne0nazi. It's a rule in the sense of respectable behavior.	[22:51]
rg	i duno vrag, in terms of respectable behavior, i dont think youre one ot lecture	[22:51]
helo	important bot's shitty connection	[22:51]
Optimo	nettiqquete	[22:51]
Optimo	qqq	[22:51]
ne0futur	i prefer not to answer, lets stay civil	[22:51]
danieldaniel	so nobody has a youtube bot?	[22:51]
rg	mines only jewtube	[22:51]
rg	sorry	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	what's a youtube bot supposed to do ?	[22:51]
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draco49	danieldaniel, what would it do? Watch videos for you?	[22:52]
Optimo	danieldaniel, try a video-related chatroom?	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	lol draco49	[22:52]
danieldaniel	Optimo: like what	[22:52]
danieldaniel	draco49: sub and view	[22:52]
Optimo	not a bitcoin channel	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	the leet haxxorz of woolpath prolly have one	[22:52]
vragnaroda	rg: I may be an asshole from time to time, but I don't post links and then when asked about them, say “I don't know anything about it; I'm just sharing it.”	[22:52]
danieldaniel	yuallsomean	[22:52]
ne0futur	I also said :	[22:53]
Optimo	faux pas ?	[22:53]
BTC_Bear	If you immediately know the candle is lit, the meal was cooked some time ago.	[22:53]
ne0futur	(22:40) <+ ne0futur> Optimo: but thanks for the report, i ll tell mtgox to ask for a corrective	[22:53]
draco49	http://youtubebot.com/	[22:53]
Optimo	that's great. I hope they change it	[22:53]
vragnaroda	ne0futur: What does that have to do with Neptunian surface temperature?	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	hmmm is https://en.bitcoin.it/ tor only now ?!	[22:53]
vragnaroda	mircea_popescu: wat	[22:54]
vragnaroda	It loads fine from here.	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	i am getting error 112 wtf.	[22:54]
draco49	works fine for me	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	o jesus	[22:54]
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mircea_popescu	someone needs to explain to these people how to set their certs.	[22:54]
dwon	mircea_popescu: that's true, but it's also working for me	[22:55]
neofutur	vragnaroda: i l stop arguing, anyway you never try to understand what I say	[22:55]
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dwon	mircea_popescu: maybe somebody's MITMing you?	[22:55]
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draco49	mircea_popescu, what's wrong with their cert setup?	[22:55]
neofutur	and will always try to "proove" i m saying what i dont mean to say	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	no dwon, just their cert is for non en. prefixed	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	as in, cert is for bitcoin.it, i load https://en.bitcoin.it/	[22:56]
jcpham	WTB MTGOXUSD or quantities of BTC with PP - rated buyer!	[22:56]
neofutur	but its not a problem since you re the only guy in the world to never undersatand what I mean	[22:56]
jcpham	easy paypal money	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	ERROR: certificate common name `www.bitcoin.it' doesn't match requested host name `en.bitcoin.it'.	[22:56]
mcorlett	neofutur: lol	[22:56]
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dwon	mircea_popescu: oh, there's an X.509 extension, which some things don't support, which lets you specify alternate names	[22:57]
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mircea_popescu	well when wget doesn't support it you have a problem imo	[22:57]
vragnaroda	neofutur: Quit doing that. Nowhere did anything indicate I didn't understand. I understood what you said just fine. It was morally wrong, not incomprehensible.	[22:57]
dwon	mircea_popescu: StartCom (the CA I also use) lets you create certs like that.	[22:57]
draco49	gribble's on the fritz...	[22:57]
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neofutur	and I m not interested in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophism	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	lol poor g.	[22:57]
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mcorlett	/nick gribble, anyone?	[22:58]
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neofutur	I dont have enought time to loose playing this silly game	[22:58]
g04	lol	[22:59]
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griblle	yes ?	[22:59]
BTC_Bear	;;griblle botsnack	[22:59]
mcorlett	griblle: You can be the real deal for 30 seconds or so.	[22:59]
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griblle	lalala i can not hear ya	[22:59]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[23:00]
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mcorlett	ew	[23:00]
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rg	great we all get to reauth	[23:00]
draco49	Comfy boots, draco.	[23:00]
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rapeghoost	ha!	[23:00]
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mircea_popescu	if you guess how many coins are in my pocket, i'll send you all my Bitcoins.	[23:00]
BTC_Bear	100	[23:01]
rapeghoost	omg that's not the real rg!	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	ok, I don't want to be mircea_popescu anymore...	[23:01]
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rg	you should be mary poppins	[23:01]
*	mircea_popescu hoses all the spunk off	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	look what you've done to my mint condition nick!	[23:02]
draco49	that was weird	[23:02]
BTC_Bear	Well there is SET ENFORCE ON	[23:02]
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mcorlett	Next week on 'A day in the life of Mircea':	[23:02]
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dwon	mircea_popescu (or whoever-tf): openssl s_client -connect en.bitcoin.it:443	[23:02]
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dwon	X509v3 Subject Alternative Name:	[23:03]
dwon	DNS:www.bitcoin.it, DNS:bitcoin.it, DNS:bitcoin.at, DNS:.bitcoin.it, DNS:.bitcoin.at, DNS:bitcoin.in, DNS:*.bitcoin.in	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	srsly dwon, run $wget https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/	[23:03]
draco49	Is that how you browse the web, mircea_popescu? Using wget?	[23:04]
g04	lol	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	if i feel particularly loose that day yes	[23:04]
vragnaroda	Why not?	[23:04]
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dwon	mircea_popescu: I know. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=409938	[23:05]
draco49	The web must be a wondrous place viewed through the eyes of wget.	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	try the lynx eyes sometime draco49	[23:05]
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draco49	lynx isn't quite the same... at least it's a browser.	[23:05]
BTC_Bear	Telnet into the Bitcoin BBS for the deals of the week	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	dwon not disputing it is a wget bug ftr. just saying most people aren't likely to know./	[23:05]
dwon	mircea_popescu: The problem is likely to go away soon. It already works fine on my Debian "wheezy" box.	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	for curiosity's sake ima load a browsershots.	[23:06]
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dwon	mircea_popescu: but yeah, not disputing that it's a problem (it's actually one of the reasons why I didn't get that kind of cert for www.dlitz.net)	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[23:07]
Pancake	;;guide	[23:07]
chk	do you guys think i should cash out 100btc right now or wait for the price increase some people are proposing?	[23:07]
Pancake	o/ well that failed	[23:07]
dwon	I got a wildcard cert instead, which isn't free, but wasn't terribly expensive either	[23:07]
dwon	(from StartCom)	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	chk look deep in your soul.	[23:07]
mcorlett	dwon: How much was it?	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	those are prolly a better solution.	[23:07]
chk	i have no soul!!!	[23:08]
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draco49	A wildcard cert from comodo is like $70/yr	[23:08]
dwon	mcorlett: https://www.startssl.com/ Class 2 verification is quoted at US $59.60.	[23:08]
draco49	*$750/yr	[23:08]
dwon	mcorlett: and that's per person, so once you do that, you can get as many wildcard certs as you want	[23:08]
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dwon	Class 1 certs are free, and recognized by most browsers	[23:09]
dwon	s/recognized/trusted/	[23:09]
MBS	http://gawker.com/5895867/minorities-who-wear-hoodies-just-asking-to-be-shot-says-geraldo-rivera	[23:09]
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mircea_popescu	http://browsershots.org/https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPOE just look at that	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	like 1/3 to half the browser can't load it.	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	brutal.	[23:10]
mcorlett	MBS: Please read your private messages.	[23:10]
dwon	mircea_popescu: Look closer. Firefox 2.0.0 just shows its pointless "you are going to an SSL page now" dialog.	[23:11]
dwon	it's not an actual error	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	o	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	seems its mostly opera	[23:12]
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neofutur	mircea_popescu: I dont agree with your conclusion, some of the machines used by browsershots.org are broken or overloaded, or have a setup to issue a silly warning on https	[23:12]
dwon	heh. safari took the screenshot before it finished loading	[23:12]
dwon	chrome, too	[23:13]
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mircea_popescu	ya neofutur, it was just a quick off the cuff	[23:13]
neofutur	imho you jump too fast to the conclusion "1/3 to half the browser can't load it"	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	doesn'tg hold up to scrutiny	[23:13]
neofutur	dwon: and others just print a warning for ssl	[23:13]
dwon	neofutur: yup	[23:13]
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dwon	and dillo, well, it's dillo	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	ya seems some versions of opera and some versions of deb/ubuntu have a problem	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	so i got a question : would the mybitcoin.com fiasco be maybe the same issue that got slush/bitcoinica/gavin/etc ?	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	because those guys knew what they were doing. was mybitcoin.com on linode ?	[23:16]
MBS	ok mcorlett, pmed you	[23:16]
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imsaguy	This week's project is cable management	[23:17]
helo	is gribble hosted on a fucking toaster oven or what?	[23:17]
imsaguy	lol	[23:17]
imsaguy	nanotube's connection sucks at times.	[23:17]
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mircea_popescu	awww poor gribble in his toaster oven ;/	[23:18]
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vragnaroda	helo: No, it's hosted on an iron in Uganda.	[23:18]
vragnaroda	Leave gribble alone.	[23:18]
helo	haha	[23:18]
dwon	lol	[23:18]
helo	has the idea of putting the WoT into namecoin's blockchain been shot down already?	[23:19]
dwon	all you want is more more more more MORE	[23:19]
bitcoinTrader	ahh gribble down	[23:19]
*	dwon sobs	[23:19]
helo	methods of mayhem heh	[23:19]
bitcoinTrader	seems nanotube is upgrading gribble	[23:19]
bitcoinTrader	:D	[23:19]
vragnaroda	I think that'd be a particularly silly way of distributing it but there are plans for an eventual decentralized WoT.	[23:19]
dwon	how dare you guys make fun of gribble, after all she's been through!	[23:20]
bitcoinTrader	dwon: gribble is she *-)	[23:20]
dwon	it's funny how much of this narrative could apply to gribble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc	[23:21]
Coolty	where is gribble?	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	gribble's dead	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	locked in my basement	[23:21]
Coolty	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO	[23:21]
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mircea_popescu	with dr dre.	[23:21]
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nanotube	who wants to trade multiple thousands of bitcoins with me	[23:22]
nanotube	I would auth but gribble is down	[23:22]
helo	can heirarchal data be put into namecoin?	[23:22]
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Guest51553	damn it	[23:22]
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dwon	aww.	[23:22]
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bitcoinTrader	lol	[23:23]
vragnaroda	gribile's cool but gribble isn't.	[23:23]
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merlin1234	I search anyone ho can change PSC to BTC ?!?!	[23:25]
BTCHero	MBS i got that remote	[23:25]
BTCHero	didn't come with a usb cable though, but im sure i have one around here	[23:26]
MBS	oh yeah, i assumed you had one, its one of the old really common ones	[23:27]
BTCHero	i probably do	[23:27]
BTCHero	thanks again	[23:27]
BTCHero	anymore junk you want to sell?	[23:28]
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MBS	hmm	[23:28]
merlin1234	I search anyone ho can change PSC to BTC ?!?!	[23:28]
jcpham	WTB MTGOXUSD or quantities of BTC with PP - rated buyer!	[23:29]
MBS	well trying to sell a $10 amazon, $10 best buy, $20 lowes, and $10 outback steakhouse gc	[23:29]
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BTCHero	physical lowes gc?	[23:30]
MBS	yeah	[23:30]
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merlin1234	i sell psc and accept BTC ?!?!	[23:31]
Cory	What's psc?	[23:31]
helo	pussy	[23:31]
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g04	hrm	[23:32]
g04	interesting	[23:32]
merlin1234	psc = http://www.paysafecard.com/us/us-paysafecard/	[23:32]
BTCHero	MBS ill give you 3.3btc for it	[23:32]
MBS	ok	[23:32]
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helo	if someone was going to design a blockchain for a WoT system...	[23:33]
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helo	trust relationship mapping is kind of a general problem, so it wouldn't be entirely retarded to think about it	[23:35]
mcorlett	merlin1234: Did you check out #bitcoin-otc-eu as I told you to?	[23:35]
neofutur	http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/ <- why gribble / nanotube are no more here	[23:36]
hyphaestus	goxxed	[23:36]
neofutur	( again :p )	[23:36]
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BTCHero	;;view	[23:38]
BTCHero	oh yeah, gribble aint here	[23:38]
BTCHero	I want silver	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	o don't tell me they were on dreamhost wtf	[23:39]
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Cory	I wonder if we send enough BTC to the -otc donation address better hosting will be bought. :P	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	jesus that piece of crap illustrates what's wrong with pr today. how many times does it say "small subset of customers" ?	[23:39]
Cory	I heard rg has a sale for -otc ops.	[23:40]
Cory	Maybe it's even better for founders.	[23:40]
BTCHero	i'm sure rg would hook him up	[23:40]
BTCHero	he did clarkmoody for free if i recall correctly	[23:40]
Cory	They have an ad for BitVPS.	[23:41]
hyphaestus	oogway's back	[23:41]
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neofutur	mircea_popescu: i m trying to push nanotube to leave dreamhost for years :p	[23:42]
BTCHero	ill host it on my xbox at my house	[23:42]
rg	its funny too, people asking for automated windoze installs, windoze already does that	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	i thought only girl bloggers hosted on dreamhost/bluehost/etchost	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	for srsly.	[23:43]
BTCHero	gauranteed 10% up time	[23:43]
rg	oops	[23:43]
rg	wrong channel	[23:43]
dwon	rg: what's the right channel?	[23:47]
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mircea_popescu	http://whatthingsdo.com/comic/kus/ << might be nsfw. want to know if you think it is. ty.	[23:48]
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helo	hahaha wtf man	[23:49]
rg	dwon: #bitvps	[23:51]
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mircea_popescu	i dunno helo you tell me. art these days...	[23:54]
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