Forum logs for 23 Feb 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
nubbins` it really is only like another $8 for the purple logo'd one, hey? [00:00]
danielpbarron yes [00:00]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ? << Surprised Cryptsy didn't hit the shitlist earlier [00:00]
asciilifeform what even was it... [00:00]
mircea_popescu me too. i guess nobody cared. [00:00]
nubbins` i feel like i have a sata drive from my last laptop somewhere [00:00]
nubbins` it drank a beer [00:00]
danielpbarron that's the idea / that most people probably have a harddrive they can rip out of an old laptop [00:01]
nubbins` danielpbarron in fact, if i order two pogos on ebay, it automatically adds import charges [00:01]
nubbins` one pogo, no charges [00:01]
nubbins` dem regulations [00:02]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: that was precisely why i wanted the sata feature, yes [00:02]
danielpbarron how much would 2 cost you? [00:02]
nubbins` overall slightly cheaper per unit than ordering one [00:03]
danielpbarron even with the extra charge? [00:03]
nubbins` added import charges, marginally higher shipping cost [00:03]
nubbins` yep [00:03]
danielpbarron fwiw, my profession is shipping/recieving [00:03]
danielpbarron specifically LTL [00:03]
mircea_popescu haha cool. [00:04]
* BingoBoingo sees need for WoT endorsed BTC courier service. If in 2 years does not exist and BTCexchange rate/Qntra workload stabilizes may consider [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0004118 = 5.0446 BTC [+] [00:05]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: might be one of those 'requires fortress' things [00:05]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron srsly, mayhap make a business out of it ? btc clearance warehouse [00:05]
danielpbarron i had that idea last year [00:05]
mircea_popescu "ship me anything you want, ask for anything you want" [00:06]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Right. Obstacle is pricing drug fucks out of service. [00:06]
mircea_popescu add a storage service to it, etc. [00:06]
mircea_popescu "leaving the us to go chase the republic ? ship me your shit. ill store or sell it" [00:06]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wot only. [00:06]
asciilifeform bitmule [00:07]
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nubbins` danielpbarron hmm [00:07]
nubbins` what can we work out here :D [00:08]
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BingoBoingo mod6: You know once 0.5.3.x stabilizes there's probably an opportunity for driving utilization by submitting it to various *BSD Ports trees as bitcoind-LTS [00:11]
nubbins` :o [00:11]
mircea_popescu implying anyone but us uses bsd [00:11]
asciilifeform ^l0l [00:11]
BingoBoingo Well, appliance use of various BSD's is not uncommon [00:12]
mircea_popescu right. [00:12]
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asciilifeform i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us [00:12]
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mircea_popescu how ? we'd just join. [00:13]
BingoBoingo Old desktop + OpenBSD pf = loadbalancer sort of thing/ [00:13]
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BingoBoingo i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious [00:14]
asciilifeform earlier usg [00:14]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not so much earlier as to be alien or ancient. I mean they were propping up dementia guy from the TV ads as a figurehead [00:15]
asciilifeform (also can talk about att being every bit as 'usg' as any ministry, at the time of being a national telecom megamonopoly) [00:15]
mircea_popescu gunnery sargeant hartmann usg [00:15]
asciilifeform orwell more or less spot on - nothing happened in the 20th c. except as nominally decreed in some mega-empire or other [00:17]
mircea_popescu like btc. [00:17]
asciilifeform in the loose sense where what happened at bell had anything to do with the throne [00:17]
mircea_popescu o sorry you said 20th [00:17]
asciilifeform 20th! [00:17]
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asciilifeform!topic/ [00:22]
assbot Google Discussiegroepen ... ( ) [00:22]
asciilifeform ^ what i'm seeing with my entire collection of sata drives [00:22]
asciilifeform netbsd is unusable unless+until this is fixed [00:23]
asciilifeform on pogo. [00:23]
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indiancandy1 im watchin a movie [00:25]
indiancandy1 rocknrola [00:25]
[]bot Bet created: "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" [00:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42461 @ 0.00041362 = 17.5627 BTC [+] {3} [00:27]
[]bot Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.6 BTC. Current weight: 99,998. [00:29]
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mircea_popescu [00:35]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Question Isn't Why Do Babies Do It ... ( ) [00:35]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Ah, no those books aren't albums. Just pulp. Titles on the spines look great on the bookshelf though. Cover art isn't bad either [00:36]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wtf, i'd fail this test even now. who's to say that 'climber' is really being 'helped' by being pushed up [00:37]
asciilifeform and this is supposed to be clear to a baby ? [00:37]
mircea_popescu it's fucking stupid is whjat it is [00:37]
ben_vulpes y'r thinkin too hard, alf [00:37]
asciilifeform it's rubbish [00:37]
mircea_popescu it IS clear to a baby, but only because babies are retards. [00:37]
asciilifeform unadulterated rubbish [00:37]
ben_vulpes it's supposed to validate the underlying thesis. [00:37]
mircea_popescu this neoprotestant platonic pedophilia is outright obscene [00:37]
mircea_popescu ESPECIALLY in the context of how agitated they are about fucking children. [00:38]
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nubbins` why did this guy stop updating his blog [00:41]
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BingoBoingo [00:41]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Hipsters On Food Stamps, Part 1 ... ( ) [00:41]
mircea_popescu alf's forced theory is that he got paid infinity whores & blows to run all the meta-usg [00:41]
nubbins` how pedestrian an end [00:42]
mircea_popescu even if that happened... he's not actually good enough. [00:42]
asciilifeform nah gewagenen [00:42]
mircea_popescu no wai. [00:42]
nubbins` prolly got fed up and moved to the woods [00:43]
mircea_popescu listen, there's not that much hr available. given your other beliefs you are required to believe he's the lizard hitler now. [00:43]
nubbins` i wonder what book /he/ took [00:43]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` shaw [00:43]
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BingoBoingo [00:44]
asciilifeform neh, his reptilian majesty is too pumped on meth and playing 'space invaders' with live gurlz to be tlp [00:44]
assbot The Porn Star « Michael W Lucas ... ( ) [00:44]
mircea_popescu orly. [00:44]
mircea_popescu guy admits to being a drunk... [00:44]
asciilifeform stalins don't drink. only yeltsins drink [00:45]
asciilifeform or at least, take to drink [00:45]
BingoBoingo guy admits to being a drunk... << Most drunks do. Drunks are braggarts. [00:45]
mircea_popescu notice that there's no space for lizard hitler being any kind of stalin. [00:45]
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asciilifeform but sure, the lizarditude of the observable universe is a bit much to fit in a man-sized bucket. sorta like the apparent limit to achievable magnetic field density.. [00:47]
indiancandy1 im buyin 1000 instagram followers [00:48]
indiancandy1 for 5 dollars [00:48]
asciilifeform indiancandy1: why?! [00:48]
asciilifeform indiancandy1: at least read 'Spam Like A Pro In 21 Days' first. [00:48]
indiancandy1 whats that [00:49]
BingoBoingo [00:49]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo re the name, i definitely got that one pat. no romanian's ever going to be a contender. and that mircea chick really faded after a brief moment of fame [00:49]
assbot The Thumbs « Michael W Lucas ... ( ) [00:49]
indiancandy1 spam like a pro [00:49]
danielpbarron i tried to buy twitter followers on the silk road once, but canceled when the guy couldn't decrypt the GPG message containing the username (not for my account / i was trying to freak out an associate of mine who takes twitter way too seriously despite having only 50 followers) [00:49]
mircea_popescu which, coincidentally or not, centers on me writing an article about her [00:49]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I dunno, that artist and his blawg... [00:49]
mircea_popescu yaya [00:49]
indiancandy1 wat is spam like a pro [00:50]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 basically he's saying this is a full time job and you won't be seeing any roi as an amateur [00:50]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [00:50]
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asciilifeform dear kiyohara takashi, wtf. sincerely, [00:51]
asciilifeform everyone [00:51]
indiancandy1 roi? [00:51]
danielpbarron indiancandy1, btw -- bought followers are worthless; they don't get you impressions or engagements. it just makes the number on your profile look big (so what) [00:52]
BingoBoingo indiancandy1: Return on Investment [00:52]
mircea_popescu return on investment [00:52]
indiancandy1 3pound [00:52]
indiancandy1 is not a loss [00:52]
asciilifeform indiancandy1: do you drive a car? when you go to a petrol pump, do you pay them to fill your tank? or to wind your gauge to 'full' by hand ? [00:52]
indiancandy1 i dont drive [00:53]
indiancandy1 lol [00:53]
mircea_popescu lol [00:53]
asciilifeform could be why having problem grasping the concept [00:53]
mircea_popescu well, she's trying to do something. which in principle is sane, better do something than nothing at all. [00:53]
indiancandy1 lol [00:53]
asciilifeform nobody alive does 'nothing at all' [00:53]
indiancandy1 aww mp sticking up 4 me [00:53]
asciilifeform everybody's trying 'something' [00:53]
asciilifeform afaik [00:54]
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mircea_popescu indiancandy1 you got twitch ? or how the fuck is that ipad dating app called [00:56]
indiancandy1 what [00:57]
indiancandy1 twich? [00:57]
indiancandy1 never heard of it [00:57]
indiancandy1 im not down with the cool kids [00:57]
mircea_popescu ;;google wtf is that stupid ipad dating app called [00:57]
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gribble Oh God, I Spent $494.04 Playing the Kim Kardashian Hollywood App: ; Talking Angela iPhone app scare spreads on Facebook | Naked ...: ; 7+ Frustrating Things in iOS 8 and What To Do About Them: (1 more message) [00:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: tinder [00:57]
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indiancandy1 tell me more [00:57]
asciilifeform mats described it here [00:57]
indiancandy1 no i dont do u ? [00:57]
danielpbarron #LeftSwipeDat [00:57]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 : buy borrow or steal an ipad ; install tinder ; go out wtih ALL the guys, insist they promote you on their social media. [00:58]
danielpbarron the app is so popular, the truth anti-smoking ads assume you're already familiar with it [00:58]
indiancandy1 ahaha [00:58]
mircea_popescu do at least 3 a day, that's 20 a week. a month later you got mommentum plus enough dining out experience to start your own cooking blog [00:58]
mircea_popescu now go. [00:58]
indiancandy1 o my [00:58]
indiancandy1 mp [00:58]
indiancandy1 ur so funny [00:58]
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mircea_popescu im not joking. [00:59]
indiancandy1 is it for casual sex [00:59]
mircea_popescu yes. it's for casual sex with geeky derps. [00:59]
BingoBoingo Swipe right every day, #YesAllWomen [00:59]
danielpbarron hahahaha [00:59]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's rich, lol. rather like saying that spam is for nigerians to become millionaires [00:59]
danielpbarron wait is that not a joke.. is that what that hashtag meant? [01:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i bet you that if she had the mettle to obey me exactly she'd have that viral she wants. [01:00]
asciilifeform quite likely [01:00]
mircea_popescu the problem is, you don't get the girl in a position to execute without the basement halfyear. [01:00]
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BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Not a joke. [01:00]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: The statement preceeding the hashtag is literally what the hashtag is all about [01:01]
indiancandy1 nigerians do yahoo yahoo it involves witchcraft [01:01]
indiancandy1 there are actually witchdoctors that specialise in this 419 thing [01:01]
asciilifeform since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? [01:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it provides structure for the conversation. [01:02]
indiancandy1 it works on gprs [01:02]
indiancandy1 so basically seeking locals [01:02]
BingoBoingo since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? << Not in its spec. Hands this off to wetware [01:02]
mircea_popescu you're not going to say "how bout those metz" not because you're not dumb enough to do that, which you are, but because you're not smart enough to think ot the metz. [01:02]
asciilifeform but that's the actual mega-problem [01:02]
mircea_popescu so you're stuck being in the same space. [01:02]
cazalla nothing worse than a woman enthral by her iphone, i'd bet the tinder girls are much worse [01:02]
indiancandy1 it should be called seeking locals [01:02]
cazalla i would do the twitch thing tbh, tinder dating you are capped at one man per date, twitch is unlimited [01:03]
indiancandy1 its for people who just want casual sex [01:03]
indiancandy1 and this days most of society just want that [01:03]
BingoBoingo it should be called seeking locals << This is why you suck at spam 101 [01:03]
asciilifeform see also the wunderwaffen thread: [01:03]
asciilifeform [01:03]
assbot Logged on 14-02-2015 02:47:47; mircea_popescu: do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ? [01:03]
indiancandy1 i dont spam [01:03]
indiancandy1 ? [01:03]
BingoBoingo indiancandy1: I know. It's jsut actual descriptive names don't ever go viral [01:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform now imagine if on top of all this "important" stuff, she also had the fucking receiver bolt : "for every missing one, you get ten lashes. each day." [01:04]
asciilifeform my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized [01:04]
BingoBoingo my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized << Does it need to do more? [01:04]
danielpbarron asciilifeform, the app helps in that it isn't aimed at establishing long-term relationships; you can already have a new one-night-stand ready for when you're done with the current one [01:05]
indiancandy1 it should be called sluts r us [01:05]
indiancandy1 ahahahahahahah [01:05]
cazalla indiancandy1, quit slut shaming [01:05]
mircea_popescu sluts r us! [01:05]
asciilifeform well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate [01:05]
danielpbarron from what i understand though, the guys are the sluts; the app is for women [01:05]
indiancandy1 there is one for gays also [01:06]
asciilifeform ^ now -that- would make sense [01:06]
indiancandy1 and one for lesboz [01:06]
BingoBoingo well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate << Heathen pits have greater explicit costs [01:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform re pit, zappa's opinions re disco. [01:06]
mircea_popescu iirc quoted here a while back too [01:06]
BingoBoingo there is one for gays also << Grindr [01:06]
indiancandy1 ya [01:06]
cazalla back in my day we had to use adult friend finder, none of this fancy iphone shit [01:06]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: costs? [01:06]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Heathen pit costs time [01:06]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you can afford a computer, you can afford to visit pub [01:07]
asciilifeform ah hm. [01:07]
indiancandy1 hot girls dont go pubs [01:07]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Your forget idiots suck at math [01:07]
indiancandy1 hot girls go to bars [01:07]
asciilifeform indiancandy1: bar is not same as pub where you live ? [01:07]
indiancandy1 london [01:07]
indiancandy1 and its completley different [01:07]
cazalla likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under [01:08]
danielpbarron is the difference whether you sit or stand? [01:08]
indiancandy1 no [01:08]
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indiancandy1 if i had 2 compare it to hotels i would say a bar is more 5star and pub is like local bed and breakfast [01:09]
cazalla pub is more cheap food and booze, bar is more.. cocktail.. you'd never get a cocktail at a pub.. unless ya like a poof or something [01:09]
danielpbarron i can't find a good cocktail anywhere [01:11]
indiancandy1 unless ur like a poof [01:11]
indiancandy1 thats funny [01:11]
ben_vulpes danielpbarron: generally you make 'em. [01:11]
indiancandy1 daniel were do u liive [01:11]
ben_vulpes or have the girl do it. [01:11]
danielpbarron yep [01:11]
ben_vulpes a, the... [01:11]
danielpbarron indiancandy1, Connecticut (the state next to new york city) [01:12]
BingoBoingo likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under << Here pub is fancier subset of bar where craft beer poofs congregate [01:13]
cazalla this is why true blue aussie battler slim dusty sang of a pub with no beer and not no cocktails [01:13]
assbot Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty - YouTube ... ( ) [01:13]
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BingoBoingo << "Hall F of the Colorado Convention Center possesses all the charm of a Soviet tank factory with the Nazis closing in. All the ugly, hard surfaces distort and amplify the happy babble of the crowd into the soundtrack of the Spanish inquisition. I’m well-aware of the brewery association’s rationale: With so many people begging to be fleeced, they have an obli [01:15]
BingoBoingo gation to provide enough space to fleece as many as possible. Which is fine, but that doesn’t mean the fleece factory has to look and feel like a fleece factory." Everything wrong with craft beer scene [01:15]
assbot Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( ) [01:15]
indiancandy1 in dubai u get nice pubs [01:15]
indiancandy1 GOODNIGHT EVRYBODY [01:16]
indiancandy1 XXXXXXXX [01:16]
BingoBoingo [01:16]
assbot Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( ) [01:16]
ben_vulpes oi fuck you [01:16]
ben_vulpes champagne is not overrated [01:16]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: It totally is [01:16]
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ben_vulpes bourbon? self-disqualified. [01:18]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Bourbon is good, but still not as efficient as pure ETOH [01:18]
decimation champagne from champagne or fizzy wine in general? [01:18]
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BingoBoingo decimation: Well, I linked a text authored by a person with more polished thoughts on the matter [01:19]
mircea_popescu << tlp gets some outright great comments [01:20]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Hey! We Just Now Invented A Cocaine Vaccine 9 Years Ago ... ( ) [01:20]
ben_vulpes decimation: the person in question wouldn't know the difference. [01:20]
BingoBoingo I’m not going to go overboard here by claiming that there’s somehow nothing worse than the introduction of a bottle of champagne to a party setting, but I will call that shit out as being a significant speed bump at any given semiformal bacchanal—say, <, What is untrue about this. Champagne is a speed bump, and obstruction [01:22]
thestringpuller danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? [01:22]
BingoBoingo "There’s a gathering ‘round, anticipations, the camaraderie of the pour-and-pass. Speeches are made and improvised from makeshift pulpits. In a chamber of strangers there comes a blossoming sense of true union, a warm realization of the beauty in us all, and the hope for a happier tomorrow. The energy of the room charges upward to its apex, tears flow freely, everyone screams… And then, in silent finale, we all tip back bar [01:23]
BingoBoingo ely half a cup of soda water gone rotten, say aaah, and limply burp. Hooray?" [01:23]
ben_vulpes poor people opining about champagne. [01:23]
ben_vulpes good find, BingoBoingo. [01:23]
* mircea_popescu went to some sort of shibaru get together here, it was advertised as "bring someting to share". i brought two bottles of fizzy, ended up drinking it with girl i brought and her friend that made the invite, because the other people were too shy. [01:23]
mircea_popescu also, shibaru dressed. srsly. [01:23]
ben_vulpes haw [01:24]
ben_vulpes what's the point? [01:24]
mircea_popescu i have nfi. [01:24]
mircea_popescu and i don't mean dressed as in swimwear either. [01:24]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Not quite. More people opining on the forgetableness of champagne for the serious drink hobbyist. [01:24]
mircea_popescu fuckign street clothes. [01:24]
danielpbarron thestringpuller> danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? << no; not sure if i've even been to windsor [01:24]
cazalla BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? [01:24]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? << Seriously, shit dies within minutes of opening [01:25]
ben_vulpes was there anything interesting on display at all? [01:25]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it was like 2 other guys and about 7 girls. exactly one barely fuckable in the lot, and she looked and acted like a 17 yo cutting class. [01:26]
ben_vulpes sounds par for your experiences down south. [01:27]
mircea_popescu on re-read i guess to some people that sounds like praise. it ain't. [01:27]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes somehow this disease where "words, we are using them" has definitely spread to here. [01:27]
mircea_popescu i blame tv. [01:28]
cazalla you know, one of the many things i don't grasp about bdsm is what looks like a desire of people to do it in a social setting than privacy of ones own home [01:28]
mircea_popescu cazalla ever fucked a girl in public ? [01:28]
cazalla not in full view, no [01:28]
mircea_popescu ever thought about doin' it ? [01:29]
cazalla off to the side, out of view, yes, but not a habit either [01:29]
cazalla no, not really, i like the comfort of home where shameful acts remain out of sight [01:29]
mircea_popescu well then makes sense. [01:29]
mircea_popescu not a fan of restaurants either ? [01:30]
unbalanced Sheesh, the conversation always takes a turn in the minutes it takes me to read a link and find a relevant reply [01:30]
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cazalla i'm not, but prob for reasons other than implied (don't like to eat in front of others i'm guessing, but that does not bother me) [01:30]
unbalanced mp, re: the TLP comment I saw this the other day: [01:30]
assbot Woooah, a spambot barfed its post recipe on my blog, it's beautiful o_o // [01:30]
mircea_popescu jus' saying, you know, each has his own inclinations. some ppl like it. some don't mind it. etc. [01:30]
unbalanced BingoBoingo, thanks for the upvoice [01:30]
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mircea_popescu unbalanced happens to me occasionally too. {|||} etc stuff [01:31]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: You're welcome. It's been a while [01:31]
unbalanced I wander off for a few months and sites fall off the web like flies. [01:31]
unbalanced I take it Altcoin is history? And Virtex and VoS here in Canada. [01:32]
mircea_popescu for plenty of girls being fucked in public is a major trespass, and sexual arousal and taboo breaking are intrinsically linked. [01:32]
cazalla i assume you mean in full view of the public and not hidden away up a side alley [01:33]
cazalla a romp in the side alley = fear of being caught, but in full view of the public and on display for anyone that cares to watch.. must be something else? [01:34]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: ATC died, mining became unteneable [01:35]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: On the plus side ATC's death highlighted a critical vulnerability in mining economics for alts [01:35]
unbalanced I guess when X-BT was gone, miners saw no market for ATC? [01:37]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: ATC's death prompted X-BT to end, not the reverse [01:37]
unbalanced Aside from OTC here in IRC I guess. [01:37]
unbalanced Still, hard to find "a greater fool" to dump ATC on with me absent. [01:38]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: l0l re: cocaine vaccine. the proposed 'dope vaccines' are one of the true eldrich horrors, that, were they actually put to use, would make folks pine for herr doktor mengele and his mercies [01:38]
unbalanced Nice work on qntra, btw [01:38]
asciilifeform think for a minute if the 'why' isn't obvious [01:38]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: Well the MPIF ATC profit center died because MP ordered it when he saw continuing anything aTC would involve potentially unbounded costs. [01:38]
unbalanced To all involved. [01:38]
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asciilifeform picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres [01:39]
asciilifeform (i can't picture a 'cocaine vaccine' doing anything else, if it works at all) [01:39]
BingoBoingo picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << This [01:39]
unbalanced *nice work to all involved meaning BingoBoingo / cazalla / mp, unless I'm missing anyone. [01:39]
asciilifeform ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' [01:39]
asciilifeform i can see it as a grotesque means of execution, however. [01:39]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: Our best recent piece was asciilifeform's disk controller epic [01:40]
unbalanced Oh jeez, I see the Dec statement, lots of authors. Nice model! [01:40]
asciilifeform 'vaccinate' poor schmuck and lock him in an oubliette with a rusty razor. [01:40]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: Our most retweeted recently though was me cribbing crunchbase, because fuck Superfish/TimDraper [01:40]
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unbalanced asciilifeform: my favourite part of that was learning that there's a "Persistence Division" -- sounds like an 80's electronica band [01:49]
mircea_popescu cazalla well... something else, sure. like a strong signal to the other females. [01:50]
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cazalla looks like one of the guys has a new scam at to harvest emails at 0.0001 per [01:51]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell indiancandy1 marketing 101 [01:51]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:51]
assbot Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( ) [01:51]
unbalanced Would you say Qubes is worth trying as a more secure OS? I think you mentioned it once wayyy back... [01:51]
mircea_popescu 2 cents an email ? hey, that's about what megalists cost. [01:51]
asciilifeform unbalanced: the reason for this is the elementary fact that, while virtually all victims of usg ops are dumb enough to run winblows, not all of them are so exquisitely stupid as to use the install that came in the crate [01:52]
asciilifeform unbalanced: hence persistence-through-diddled-hw shenanigans [01:52]
unbalanced I looked for a laptop that would support all the goodies in Qubes, and ended up buying -- wait for it -- a Lenovo. [01:53]
unbalanced Can't win. [01:53]
asciilifeform unbalanced: qubes << i most certainly never suggested it. as far as i can see, it's plain 'xen' and subject to all the caveats thereof ('escapes' etc) [01:53]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: My online machine is still a 2011 vintage cheapo thinkpad. Love it. [01:53]
asciilifeform as a general rule, piss on anyone pitching a linux distro as 'an os' [01:54]
asciilifeform there is no excuse for lying. don't say 'i wrote an os' when you rolled a linux distro like 100,000 other folks. [01:54]
unbalanced Of course it wasn't a consumer Lenovo, but it seems if you buy the latest Intel processor for security features you may be buying a factory-pwned unit anyway. [01:54]
asciilifeform if gonna lie, at least try to be believable ? [01:54]
* BingoBoingo is coming around to idea that if linux is used msut be built from toothpicks [01:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dun think you understand how pubescent male brain works. [01:55]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: The cheapo lenovos come with AMD [01:55]
unbalanced I'd buy a used ThinkPad but who knows how diddled that would be now from 4 years of some shlub surfing porn? [01:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: to the extent i know how any other one works. [01:56]
asciilifeform wasn't, after all, born this age. [01:56]
* BingoBoingo finds present online machine valuable because acquired well before could have been considered interesting personally [01:56]
danielpbarron i chatted with someone the other day who claimed to be using a "custom OS" / when pressed further he admitted it was ubuntu with some features disabled [01:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "hi baby i'm a producer". " i made an os" [01:56]
asciilifeform << this is interesting -only- because of the photo of the crack woman from pediwikia. it used to have a face! [01:56]
assbot Researchers Test Anti-Cocaine Vaccine, Taps Immune System to End Addiction : LIFE : Tech Times ... ( ) [01:56]
asciilifeform i saw it many times [01:56]
asciilifeform and it had a face. [01:57]
mircea_popescu i even have this captured in trilema amber [01:57]
asciilifeform that photo only existed as a propaganda device, 'woman, see what the dope life does to face?!' [01:57]
asciilifeform and now it looks almost normal [01:58]
asciilifeform but i can see some pediwikian fuhrer going 'we shall now censor faces' [01:58]
asciilifeform re: 'dope life': [01:59]
asciilifeform there are conditions that interfere with sleep. as in, cannot - or can only rarely - sleep. eventually fatal. but before victim dies, he experiences more or less the whole gamut of 'meth addict' pathologies. [01:59]
mircea_popescu actually i so very much doubt that has to be fatal... [02:00]
asciilifeform which suggests that u.s. army medics were right, and meth (or other stimulator) per se doesn't poison the user [02:00]
mircea_popescu if i ever get one i'll report. [02:00]
unbalanced BingoBoingo, I imagine anyone wandering through this channel must end up on a no-fly list within a week. I mean, if there's a Persistence Division, there must be an #Assets Assembly. [02:00]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: kills via immune collapse [02:00]
asciilifeform iirc. [02:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the thing is, when i don't actually sleep i revert to these 4 hour cycles with about an hourish of downtime, and im fine. [02:00]
mircea_popescu i think the pathology results from not actually respecting that. [02:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the pathology arises in cases where victim - usually for reason of taking stimulator nonstop - feels no compulsion to sleep. [02:01]
asciilifeform this is not the only incident of 'modern' medicine failing to factor out comorbidities correctly [02:02]
* mircea_popescu is one of those rare folks that can stand guard two weeks and still appreciate humor at the end of it. [02:02]
asciilifeform see also tthe case of the wholly fictional 'crack babies' [02:02]
asciilifeform (which were, to the extent the pathologies were actual, vs imagined, alcohol babies) [02:02]
cazalla mircea_popescu, sleep deprived hysteria? had this after the first week with baby, i have never laughed so hard and all i assume as a result from total lack of sleep [02:03]
* asciilifeform personal record - 1 week. and appreciated humour perhaps too much after that. but story for another time [02:03]
unbalanced I saw in an early article... is the maker from around here, an #asset-erian? [02:04]
danielpbarron i went a few days without sleep and began to hallucinate [02:04]
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cazalla unbalanced, i don't believe so, exchanged a few emails with the guy who built that but unsure if he ever came here [02:04]
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mircea_popescu cazalla no hysteria, but i get very disinclined to listen to what excuses anyone may have. [02:05]
unbalanced cazalla, thanks -- I was pondering a similar idea about how to divvy-up boring micro data-cleaning work by pipelining it to many users and doing micro-payments. [02:06]
unbalanced Like captcha's I'd need a human decision for the choices my code couldn't make... and would need to run each one by say 5 people then take the "wisdom of the crowds" consensus answer. [02:07]
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mircea_popescu this is the shittiest wetware cpu design yet. [02:08]
unbalanced Simple stuff for a native speaker in a given language: correcting capitalization on names, coding mistyped countries [02:08]
ben_vulpes unbalanced: the term is "asshat" [02:09]
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unbalanced Ohhhh that's why I get called asshat all the time. [02:11]
unbalanced But the question is, how do people driving by know I lurk here? [02:12]
BingoBoingo 'Ernest Gallo told and re-told a story about driving through Atlanta and spotting a man drinking on the sidewalk. “What’s the word?” Gallo called out. The response was instantaneous: “Thunderbird!” and both the wino and the millionaire dissolved into laughter.' [02:13]
unbalanced mircea_popescu: yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything there... I was hoping for an API to hook into but my needs are custom enough I'll likely have to roll my own UI anyway. [02:15]
BingoBoingo "Not surprisingly, this misguided attempt at respectability failed. Thereafter, Gallo disassociated itself from Thunderbird by simply removing the Gallo name from the Thunderbird label." [02:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00040466 = 1.214 BTC [+] [02:15]
BingoBoingo "Television ads featured the fictional characters “Frank Bartles” and “Ed Jaymes,” two kindly old men so honest and down-to-earth they ended each spot by thanking viewers “for your support.”" [02:16]
ben_vulpes dude [02:18]
ben_vulpes everything in the ruby world is abandonware [02:18]
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BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: what do you seriously expect from the language that spawned the framework that killed vircurex [02:20]
unbalanced Thanks Bingo [02:20]
BingoBoingo For people lacking history Vircurex was what cryptsy aspired to be until Vircurex was robbed to the point no one bothered robbing it anymore [02:21]
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ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: it also runs davout's thing [02:22]
unbalanced We get a lot of data coming in where users enter things like "NHL" "Nat'l Hockey League" "N.H.l." or umpteen other bastardizations of whatever the short text field is asking for. [02:22]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Davout also cares enough though to run off of a name. Vircurex was run by "Kumala" who even mircea_popescu doesn't care enough about to dox. [02:23]
unbalanced I can reduce the data cleaning chore via buzzword compliance: gamification, cryptocurrency, micropayments... child labor... addictive push notifications, the whole nine yeards. [02:27]
unbalanced Purely scratching my own itch there. Not proposing a wetware CPU startup. No Tesla coming out of this one, just fewer manual SQL statements. [02:28]
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unbalanced Bingo, I get Bartles & Jaymes confused with the two cranberry farmers standing out in the marsh in their hip-waders [02:30]
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mircea_popescu everything in the ruby world is abandonware << everything in the webworld is abandonware. [02:31]
mircea_popescu brace yourself for THAT discovery. [02:31]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: Maybe that is the point of the exercise. Everything one could want to know about "marketing" can be learned from Modern Drunkard. [02:31]
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unbalanced I will be sure to leave branded empties near schoolyards like the Gallo salesment. [02:33]
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asciilifeform 'bitwork' << see also 'mechanical turk' [02:35]
asciilifeform (yes, named for the chess 'machine') [02:35]
asciilifeform it is, afaik, unique for one thing - being a haven of sp4mz0rz on both sides of the equation [02:35]
asciilifeform that is, most if not all of the jobs, last i checked, pertained to spam [02:35]
unbalanced Yes, I remember when Amazon came out with theirs, I read that story... [02:35]
asciilifeform but quite likely most of the 'workers' are also (secretly) bots. [02:36]
unbalanced (about the magical machine) [02:36]
asciilifeform ok i have no idea about others, but all of -mine- were bots, lol [02:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00041502 = 5.748 BTC [+] [02:37]
unbalanced Heh. For data coding I think I'd have to limit use to trusted/trained users... hence my child labor crack. [02:38]
unbalanced We'll whip up a few pages where a few seniors and students can tap big colourful rectangles to make their selections. [02:38]
unbalanced Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along. [02:38]
unbalanced Steve Jobs is training the work force of the future, who knew? [02:39]
unbalanced Tap and flick your way to a food pellet and a little more water in your dish! [02:39]
asciilifeform [02:39]
assbot ... ( ) [02:39]
asciilifeform ^ 'workforce' [02:39]
ben_vulpes there's a particularly good sci fi story about people who lease their wetware out during the day, are monitored for minute reactions. [02:40]
BingoBoingo Twerkforce!!! [02:40]
ben_vulpes damned if i can remember it. [02:40]
unbalanced That's a lot of electricity for a Chinese prison. [02:40]
[]bot Bet placed: 13.12 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" Odds: 7(Y):93(N) by coin, 7(Y):93(N) by weight. Total bet: 23.34534479 BTC. Current weight: 91,074. [02:41]
asciilifeform gurlfarm [02:41]
ben_vulpes bitbet volume up this month? [02:41]
unbalanced Careful asciilifeform she's probably watching us right now. [02:42]
unbalanced Did I see a somewhere in the past month or so? That sounded neat. [02:43]
BingoBoingo Megalol >> [02:43]
assbot Should I dox myself for $3? : Buttcoin ... ( ) [02:43]
BingoBoingo unbalanced: The classical is useful [02:43]
ben_vulpes okay i lost a weekend to ruby dependency hell [02:45]
ben_vulpes can i say something dramatic yet? [02:45]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how'd ya like to lose a week to [02:46]
assbot src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c - annotate - 1.34 ... ( ) [02:46]
* BingoBoingo is still convinced NetBSD is a largely Jap fascination much like tentacle porn [02:48]
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* BingoBoingo seriously though NEtBSD was for people who wanted sudo on their toasters [02:50]
asciilifeform on dead squirrels [02:51]
BingoBoingo That too. [02:51]
asciilifeform toaster - luxury, can run freebsd [02:51]
BingoBoingo I mean... Borked SATA drivers??? [02:51]
asciilifeform borked on marvell [02:51]
asciilifeform and, supposedly, only for certain drives [02:52]
asciilifeform but happens to include all the ones i could find here [02:52]
BingoBoingo Ah [02:52]
BingoBoingo Building bitcoin-qt through an exercise that largely involved deleting makes me wonder what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting code [02:53]
ben_vulpes muntz on, good sir. [02:54]
BingoBoingo I'm thinking "Midori" web browser might be a next candidate [02:54]
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* BingoBoingo offers "midori" web browser particularly because all C [02:56]
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asciilifeform what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting << kernels [02:57]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Exactly. I'm just now discovering the power of the delete key and like a toddler want to use it on everything. [02:58]
BingoBoingo [02:59]
assbot Negative HIV Tests For Sale ... ( ) [02:59]
asciilifeform wat [03:00]
BingoBoingo RC4, delete; NTFS, delete; [03:00]
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BingoBoingo sshd, delete [03:02]
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cazalla lol [03:04]
assbot Google ... ( ) [03:04]
asciilifeform cazalla: what of it [03:04]
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cazalla ah maybe i am getting cached ver, someone elses ss [03:05]
assbot ... ( ) [03:05]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Yeah, I saw boring google, bot lulzfest you screencapped [03:06]
cazalla not my screencap but i still see it [03:06]
BingoBoingo You know copyrastas got too much power when people want to price gouge antihelminthics [03:08]
assbot More Price Hikes on Obscure Medication. In the Pipeline: ... ( ) [03:08]
asciilifeform ^ 'intellectual property' in one paragraph. [03:09]
asciilifeform 'If Shkreli acquires Biltricide from Bayer, he plans to raise the price of the drug to $100,000 for a single-day course of treatment, according to people briefed on Turing's business plans. No other changes or improvements to the drug will be made by Turing. The extra revenue generated by Biltricide is expected to earn Turing a fast profit for its investors and help defray the cost of developing other, experimental drugs, sour [03:09]
asciilifeform ces said.' [03:09]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Best part is people who generally need antihelminthics... generally could not afford "aspirin" [03:10]
asciilifeform target market is presumably wealthy usian tourists to the turd world [03:11]
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asciilifeform who manage to get very, very lucky [03:11]
BingoBoingo lol [03:11]
cazalla what a fucking other fucker.. just chipped my front tooth after only having it fixed like a month ago [03:11]
cazalla mother fucker even [03:11]
asciilifeform i bet it costs less to have all the shareholders shot in the head [03:12]
asciilifeform than what the patients, collectively, might pay for the product. [03:12]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: Welcome to the wonderful world of ceramics [03:12]
* BingoBoingo finds it amazing that maximally empowered copyrastas would have te rest of humanity die by worms [03:15]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:15]
asciilifeform the 100k fella didn't mention funding worm spread [03:16]
asciilifeform but it seems like logical next step. [03:16]
asciilifeform to maximize investor returns! [03:16]
BingoBoingo No need to fund worm spread. Spread well enough on their own [03:17]
asciilifeform whether 'on their own' is 'well enough' is for the shareholders to decide. [03:18]
cazalla BingoBoingo, black people sorta ruined gold teeth didn't they? [03:18]
BingoBoingo Only necessary ingredient is pricing drug out of veterinary practice [03:18]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Mercury amalgam is still a thing [03:18]
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cazalla BingoBoingo, that'd still look like i had bling done [03:20]
BingoBoingo Maybe? [03:20]
BingoBoingo Aesthetics can only put up so much of a fight against engineering [03:25]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: you at least understand the toolchain with which you grapple. [03:25]
cazalla i don't wanna live in a world where i have to bling up my front teeth just to eat a peach without chipping a tooth [03:26]
asciilifeform mercifully little there is of it [03:26]
cazalla i'd claim shoddy work but the crown this guy did, never had an issue [03:26]
BingoBoingo cazalla: You have to understand replacement material involve necessary compromise [03:27]
asciilifeform << historical interest [03:31]
assbot ... ( ) [03:31]
cazalla food needs to adjust to fit the way my teeth see the world BingoBoingo [03:31]
asciilifeform re: solzhenitsyn's axe theorem [03:31]
asciilifeform incidentally modern jailers learned from this and other historical lulz [03:33]
asciilifeform they do not wear sidearms inside the 'wire'. [03:33]
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BingoBoingo And yet USia's jailing class plagiarizes their German predecessors without attribution [03:38]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: Once you need fillings in "working locations" the choices are metallic and durable or "natural" and the dentist's annuity [03:40]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plagiarizes - lol. where in the world were the first modern gassings? not germany [03:40]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The gassing are not the plagiarism. The humane safety aspects are. [03:41]
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BingoBoingo "No firearms in the zoo" was a very German reform [03:44]
BingoBoingo Oh, return of kink has a rough gem [03:47]
assbot France Is In Big Trouble ... ( ) [03:47]
asciilifeform 'In all of the discussions, Höss is quite matter-of-fact and apathetic, shows some belated interest in the enormity of his crime, but gives the impression that it never would have occurred to him if somebody hadn’t asked him. There is too much apathy to leave any suggestion of remorse and even the prospect of hanging does not unduly stress him. One gets the general impression of a man who is intellectually normal, but with [03:49]
asciilifeform the schizoid apathy, insensitivity and lack of empathy that could hardly be more extreme in a frank psychotic' << could be a description of virtually any [03:49]
asciilifeform any 'plum book' usg [03:49]
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BingoBoingo "The inmates broke out of their housing structures and converged in the recreation yard, setting fire to several kevlar domes, or tents, that serve as prison housing, the paper said." [03:57]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'kevlar' isn't flammable per se... [03:58]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Plenty flame-abru in practice [03:59]
BingoBoingo Hydrocarbon and flourocarbon polymers break down into their more flamable constituents [04:00]
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ben_vulpes ahaha and then ruby ecosystem just falls over en masse without libreadline6-dev on the machine. no warnings at compile or until i go to actually run this hellspawn rails app [04:15]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: You know... sbcl is available nearly everywhere... [04:17]
BingoBoingo Why OpenBSD dev's hate FreeBSD devs [04:23]
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mircea_popescu unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along. << there's something fundamentally naive about one imagining he can extract useful work out of an assemblage of idiots. [04:49]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that site with the idiotic "from around the web" "weird tricks" etc spam [04:55]
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mircea_popescu re "100k/dose" : praziquantel is a simple molecule easy to synth. everyone'll just use the indian version and that's that. [04:57]
mircea_popescu let us bezzle outbezzle itself to all fuck. [04:57]
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Adlai "praziquantel is a simple molecule easy to synth." << easiest way to get accurate info on the internet is to spew nonsense and wait to be corrected? :P [04:59]
mircea_popescu no ? [05:00]
mircea_popescu which part dja have trouble with ? [05:01]
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mircea_popescu it's about 50yo you know. [05:04]
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Adlai that has zero relevance to ease of synthesis [05:06]
mircea_popescu ... [05:06]
mircea_popescu what do you think happened in the past half century, chemistry got HARDER ? [05:07]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform re the jew thing : so ho got her man. rest of the "respectable" cunts, ineffectual as all "respectable" cunts. [05:15]
mircea_popescu nothing new under the sun. [05:15]
cazalla anyone else seen qntra as #2 on hackernews atm? [05:20]
mircea_popescu yup [05:21]
mircea_popescu nice going bb. [05:22]
cazalla [05:22]
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ben_vulpes << sure thing shill [05:23]
assbot But that's entirely because they have to comply with federal law, not because th... | Hacker News ... ( ) [05:23]
mircea_popescu break a bad law rather than comply with it. [05:23]
mircea_popescu "have to" my foot. [05:23]
mircea_popescu "all the other guys were fucking her, I had to rape her a little too!!1 " [05:24]
ben_vulpes can't win for losing [05:24]
mircea_popescu the fucking shrem defense. "i'm not an asshole, i just had to behave like one. but my real me is still intact! i'm a narcissist, my actions don't describe me!" [05:25]
ben_vulpes shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima. play with the feds: get exiled. exile yourself from the us, wither on the vine of unprofitability. [05:26]
ben_vulpes makes me wonder what those of us desperately milking the bezzle of what drops it yields will be castigated with. [05:26]
mircea_popescu the choices that all suck [05:26]
ben_vulpes show me some that don't, eh? [05:26]
ben_vulpes it's war, there's no winning. [05:27]
mircea_popescu i'm only showing alf, he's got the ip on iot. [05:27]
mircea_popescu shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima << who was this ? [05:27]
ben_vulpes you wrote about him at one point. [05:27]
ben_vulpes recently, i might add. [05:28]
mircea_popescu that narrows it down... [05:28]
ben_vulpes well i can't find it. [05:32]
ben_vulpes some person who shuttered their own operation preemptively. [05:32]
mircea_popescu you don't mean the gerald davis / death&taxes guy ? [05:33]
ben_vulpes wasn't he just wrong? [05:33]
ben_vulpes ah no [05:34]
mircea_popescu a year ago ? [05:34]
ben_vulpes i am simply low on brain and reading comprehension this evening. [05:34]
mircea_popescu i don't give a shit some dude shutters his business [05:34]
* ben_vulpes rereads the article in question [05:34]
mircea_popescu but if he comes back 18 months later as an expert witness on the shithead parade... [05:34]
mircea_popescu he's going to get asked a few hard questions. such as, "who the fuck is paying your bills." [05:34]
ben_vulpes i see, i see. [05:36]
ben_vulpes (little, late and only with others' light) [05:36]
mircea_popescu note that he's actually not answered it, either. [05:37]
mircea_popescu went in without a plan. rather typical of the entirely fucktarded level of these people lately. [05:37]
mircea_popescu "nobody could have foreseen we'd get asked questions..." [05:37]
ben_vulpes while i'm up and it's quiet, what is the point of this new 'license' of yours? [05:39]
ben_vulpes on the face of it (and granted, i'm tired and slow), it seems this license would only ever prevent folks from using anything so licensed. [05:40]
* ben_vulpes rereads *again* [05:40]
ben_vulpes is it one of those "virulent" licenses? that nominally made things into which their licensed source was rolled also "open" source? [05:41]
mircea_popescu it just makes it impossible for fiat businesses to use any of our software. [05:42]
ben_vulpes more software. just what the world needs. [05:44]
mircea_popescu it's just a logical gate is all. [05:45]
mircea_popescu only allows flow one way. [05:45]
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mircea_popescu "i am a white male" orly. [12:02]
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Adlai 3rd ¶ reeks of lamarckism [12:03]
mircea_popescu ahaha young father, is 27. [12:04]
mircea_popescu what the shit. [12:04]
mircea_popescu ima use this thing as a teaching aid. [12:04]
mircea_popescu wait, wants to impregnate woman next month ? [12:05]
mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with people. [12:06]
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nubbins` or 13 months from now [12:07]
nubbins` but by then he'll be 28 [12:07]
mircea_popescu nono he doesn't want to wait a full year [12:07]
mircea_popescu besides by then dota 5 will be out [12:08]
nubbins` this TLP blog is fun to read but i feel like reading it makes me feel like i understand things better than i actually do [12:08]
nubbins` dota 5? /me cuts off dick, throws in trash [12:08]
mircea_popescu don't get drastic nubbins` [12:08]
mircea_popescu your dick can have middle lane. [12:09]
nubbins` better middle lane than middling pain [12:10]
nubbins` oh, here's one about women wearing makeup [12:10]
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mircea_popescu you know back before the world went nuts, my mother was in the maternity ward about to deliver me, as a 22 yo college grad. [12:10]
mircea_popescu with her, a 17yo and a 18yo [12:10]
mircea_popescu doctor berated her for "waiting so long!" [12:11]
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nubbins` 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less [12:12]
nubbins` "i'm taking a year to find myself" [12:12]
nubbins` "i'm doing __ for my gap year" [12:12]
nubbins` ^ why not just be honest to yourself ;/ [12:12]
mircea_popescu ya srsly. [12:12]
mircea_popescu it was fucking shameful then to not have a degree by 22. [12:12]
mircea_popescu anyway, my dad was 23 (army). and nofcuking body thought this is young. [12:13]
mircea_popescu everyone thought this is werdly late, but fucken intellectuals, nutty. [12:13]
nubbins` i'm not sure what romania was like in the late 70s but i feel like the average age of post-secondary graduation directly correlates to how soft things are in that place [12:15]
ben_vulpes cuz you liked teh woman, foo. << i see this coming [12:16]
mircea_popescu nubbins` let me put it this way : romania had mandatory universal male draft. [12:16]
mircea_popescu 9 months IF you went to college. 15 otherwise. [12:16]
nubbins` heh [12:17]
nubbins` a lot can happen in 6 months in the armed forces [12:17]
nubbins` second-best korea still has this, btw [12:17]
mircea_popescu like what, derpy dude gets weaned ? [12:17]
nubbins` i think it's two years tho [12:17]
mircea_popescu many countries still do, esp in the east of russia. [12:17]
nubbins` upside of this is that every korean male, at least ostensibly, earned a blackbelt in taekwondo [12:18]
mircea_popescu i don't believe it's a bad idea. if shiva tasked me with fixing west, it's one of the first things i'd do. [12:18]
nubbins` but, y'know. "earned". [12:18]
mircea_popescu fail that, castration. [12:18]
nubbins` a universal draft would fix the west? [12:18]
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nubbins` wait, no, i see it [12:18]
nubbins` wasn't looking ahead far enough 8) [12:18]
mircea_popescu nubbins` 9 months with gunnery sargeant hartman, on the understanding that if you fail you get your balls chopped off and spend the rest of your life = the next few years chained to a wall in a brothel for arab fags. [12:19]
nubbins` see, thing is [12:20]
mircea_popescu meanwhile teh girls can learn useful lyf skills. [12:20]
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nubbins` once everyone's in the military, they gotta /do something/ with all these soldiers! [12:20]
mircea_popescu paint rocks. [12:20]
nubbins` too passive [12:20]
danielpbarron have you played dota or just heard of it? [12:20]
nubbins` i think it's a video game [12:20]
mircea_popescu romania had universal draft for a century, never started a war. [12:20]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron i just heard of it. [12:20]
nubbins` romania was a different brand of retarded [12:20]
nubbins` you think if the american military suddenly is awash in bodies, they won't start sending them places for the sake of doing it? [12:21]
mircea_popescu but i think it's the one derived from old warcraft 2, except you get a single hero and no "resources" per se, get wood/gold to level them by killing npcs [12:21]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i'd be running things, not fucking dod. [12:21]
Adlai "paint rocks." << there's this idf saying: "if it moves, salute it; if it doesn't, pick it up; if you can't, paint it" [12:21]
nubbins` wood? sounds like die siedler von catan [12:22]
mircea_popescu i'd have them handpicking cotton if it comes to it. [12:22]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i meant "resources" as in warcraft2. whatever, vespene gas and the othe rone [12:22]
mircea_popescu i think in dota it's "gold" and "experience" [12:22]
* nubbins` shrugs helplessly [12:22]
danielpbarron pretty much, except it was warcraft3 (some might say it started in starcraft as Aeon of Strife) [12:22]
mircea_popescu Adlai sounds bout right. [12:22]
nubbins` mircea_popescu you most certainly wouldn't. you'd have them fighting overseas! [12:23]
mircea_popescu no i wouldn't. [12:23]
nubbins` i'm talking about the "you" that doesn't exist, but in this alternate world where you'd be ostensibly an american in charge of american troops [12:23]
mircea_popescu the ONLY way i'd have them fighting overseas is if congress approves this plan whereby a) all territory we step on gets granted territory status ; b) soldiers once veteranized are rewarded in homesteads there, and HAVE TO marry local [12:24]
nubbins` o look [12:24]
mircea_popescu either do it right or don't do it. [12:24]
mike_c machiavelli would say that obama should go live there awhile. [12:24]
mircea_popescu hey, i wouldn't have any problem living with these dudes. [12:25]
mircea_popescu it's the New Whiner York that i don't care for. [12:25]
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asciilifeform traditional ru draft << plenty of derppathologies there despite the mega-curative 1yr painting grass green [12:26]
mike_c he said when you conquer, the prince has got to go live there to make the locals happy. and it sounds right to me. [12:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nevertheless. [12:26]
mircea_popescu imagine, you sign up for the military, you get the guarantee that you'll be pushing shit uphill for a coupla decades, then when you're fortysomething you get a farm and an ethnic bride. [12:27]
mike_c worked for rome [12:27]
asciilifeform civis romanus sum! [12:27]
mircea_popescu "army'll make men out of you. dead or alive - that's up to you." [12:27]
mircea_popescu new slogan. [12:27]
mircea_popescu none of this "army of one" narcisiac bs. [12:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that one was actually cancelled [12:28]
mircea_popescu not FPS enough ? [12:28]
mircea_popescu is it "army of just you" now ? [12:28]
asciilifeform iirc the last one i saw was 'be all you can be' [12:28]
mike_c be all you can be was before army of one as far as i remember [12:29]
asciilifeform then dunno [12:29]
mike_c "army strong" is current [12:29]
mircea_popescu aww, they missed out on the obvious neuroticism ? "be all you can be. and more." ??? [12:29]
mike_c [12:29]
assbot Slogans of the United States Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [12:29]
mircea_popescu mike_c apparently reading comprehension on the downtrend huh ? [12:29]
mircea_popescu maybe next is "Nice. Good." [12:29]
mike_c army gud 4 u [12:30]
mircea_popescu gud4u, gud4me! [12:30]
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nubbins` i thought boston was strong [12:30]
nubbins` the army is too? [12:30]
mircea_popescu boston took over. [12:30]
* nubbins` counts bombs [12:30]
nubbins` hmmm [12:30]
mircea_popescu they're not even allowing those wisconsin and indiana poofters in. [12:30]
asciilifeform i occasionally dig into vintage u.s. newspapers, magazines. interestingly, army ads from the '50s-'60s dwell on the 'sharp look' of the uniform. [12:31]
asciilifeform 'be sharp, look sharp' [12:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, that was calculated. what happened in 1945-49 ? [12:31]
nubbins` ^ my dad was married in his (canadian) coast guard uniform [12:31]
mircea_popescu all the kids that were 10 then musta noticed the flurry of panties [12:31]
mircea_popescu so... gotta sell it. [12:31]
nubbins` sure [12:31]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what's that like, elk horn hat, maple syrup pants ? [12:32]
nubbins` heh. [12:32]
asciilifeform it's almost a wonder that 18th c. 'gussar' uniforms didn't make a comeback [12:32]
asciilifeform complete with hat [12:32]
nubbins` double-button jacket w/ gold trim on the cuffs [12:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform honestly, you could make some pretty epic uniforms for the drone flying division [12:32]
nubbins` epaulettes too, i guess [12:32]
mircea_popescu they're indoors anyway [12:32]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: precisely [12:32]
asciilifeform they really ought to wear their napoleonic best [12:32]
nubbins` well, looking like a slob was a lot less acceptable in the 50s-60s too [12:33]
nubbins` it's almost expected now [12:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform traditional ru draft << plenty of derppathologies << yes. but they're pathologies rather than the fucking core. [12:33]
asciilifeform when i worked for (not in, must note) u.s. army, the thing that always got me was the pixellation on their camos [12:34]
thestringpuller nubbins`: 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less << took me 7 years to get through GATech. Failed Calculus like 9 times. [12:34]
asciilifeform everyone looked like the weakest monster from 'doom' [12:34]
mircea_popescu punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! you can only target particular proteins, which coke is not. [12:35]
asciilifeform also the notion of deploying immune reaction against small molecule... [12:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform mooks lol [12:35]
asciilifeform srsly pixels [12:36]
mircea_popescu cheaper. [12:36]
asciilifeform big enough to see from musketry range [12:36]
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asciilifeform i caught myself wondering if it was designed in 'ms paint' [12:36]
mircea_popescu how often would you say an us army / marine / etc fights within visual range of anything that'd even remotely qualify as an enemy ? [12:37]
PeterL creating immune response to small molecules would be hard to controll, you would just end up allergic to everything [12:37]
mircea_popescu such as i dunno, a bush an enemy pissed on sometime this week [12:37]
mircea_popescu PeterL fortunately body's smarter than you, won't take. [12:38]
* asciilifeform read up on the cocaine vaccine thing. will note that even if it works as claimed (no blood-brain barrier penetration) - the net effect, if everybody were injected, is simply to multiply the standard dose of coke for man by 1.5x or so [12:38]
mircea_popescu << look at that, marketwatch is reading last year's b-a logs [12:38]
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mircea_popescu "So far, the arguments against it seem to have been "major numebr [12:40]
mircea_popescu should go with a major new feature or breaking of compatibility", [12:40]
mircea_popescu which just shows how little people know. We don't break compatibility, [12:40]
mircea_popescu and we haven't done feature-based releases since basically forever." [12:40]
mircea_popescu gotta love torvalds lol [12:40]
nubbins` asciilifeform so the cocaine sold in usa would now have to be 30-40% pure instead of 20%? [12:40]
asciilifeform nubbins`: aha [12:40]
nubbins` that's gonna hit the glucosamine suppliers where it hurts. [12:40]
asciilifeform nubbins`: the coke 'barons' would be the first to push for 'vaccine' if it had any threat of working [12:41]
nubbins` (phun phact, gym rats like coke and weighlifting supplements are invariably white powders) [12:41]
mircea_popescu i guess i will annoy everyone if i say i'm not particularly fond of coke ? [12:42]
* asciilifeform hasn't used it, cannot say if fond or not [12:43]
mircea_popescu what the fuck is the point of living in wash dc [12:43]
mircea_popescu srsly now. [12:43]
nubbins` also have never tried coke [12:43]
nubbins` i like things way too much to justify trying it [12:43]
nubbins` besides, i definitely do not want to snort weightlifting supplements [12:44]
mircea_popescu i don't think you can confuse cocaine with anything else. [12:44]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i think he're referring to the dilutants [12:45]
mircea_popescu so buy it clean cut it with sugar. [12:45]
asciilifeform iirc this is not usually possible in small quantity [12:46]
asciilifeform sorta like asking to have -one- aluminum cd pressed. [12:46]
mircea_popescu eh get out. they won't tell you this, but a good half of the captured stuff - on the street - is actually pure. [12:47]
nubbins` "so buy it clean" o.O [12:47]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: captured from dealers [12:47]
nubbins` ^ [12:47]
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mircea_popescu "dealers" doesn't mean what it used to mean 30 years ago. [12:47]
asciilifeform it is, as i understand, a severe taboo among them, to sell it undiluted [12:47]
mircea_popescu people are so fucking poor now a bag qualifies you as a wholesaler. [12:47]
nubbins` someone who isn't me has witnessed dealers receive new shipment, open bag, set several spoonfuls aside for sef, then dump 8-10 tbsp of random white in there [12:47]
nubbins` *self [12:48]
nubbins` if pure cocaine was sold here, people would overdose [12:48]
mircea_popescu nubbins` pure is the safest by far. [12:48]
asciilifeform i suppose if you have any schooling whatsoever, you can recrystallize it if you want [12:48]
mircea_popescu otherwise you accidentally hit a 50% as if it were a 20% and bam [12:48]
nubbins` asciilifeform you don't need schooling to make crack [12:48]
nubbins` mircea_popescu pure being the only thing around is safest, sure. [12:49]
nubbins` but dealers care less about safe and more about $$ [12:49]
asciilifeform recrystallize != use it as crystal [12:49]
asciilifeform necessarily [12:49]
nubbins` do you think that guy even googled "can you snort glucosamine" before cutting his stash? [12:49]
nubbins` because i know for a fact that he didn't [12:49]
mircea_popescu actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag and dumb ho hitting it as if it were the stuff she normally gets in clubs [12:49]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu that was actually a bag of white heroin :D [12:49]
nubbins` that the girl snorted as coke [12:50]
mircea_popescu o it was ? [12:50]
nubbins` ya [12:50]
mircea_popescu yeah right, cause he was shooting it up yeah [12:50]
nubbins` hence her heart stopping, 3 stabs to chest, etc [12:50]
mircea_popescu right [12:50]
nubbins` ("no! you only stab her once!") [12:50]
mircea_popescu that was so fucking stupiod. [12:50]
nubbins` but for srs, people have heart attacks on coke all the time [12:50]
mircea_popescu what was that needle made out of, neutronium ? [12:50]
nubbins` [12:51]
assbot Intracardiac injection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [12:51]
asciilifeform nubbins`: folks also have heart attacks in exercise, in the shitter, while shovelling dirt, etc. [12:51]
nubbins` asciilifeform: now imagine today's exercise/shit/dirt pile is at 100% (or even 80%) strength instead of 20% [12:52]
nubbins` but it looks the same [12:52]
asciilifeform nubbins`: well yes [12:52]
nubbins` :D [12:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow. [12:52]
nubbins` this is why the purity of coke will not rise [12:52]
mircea_popescu goes back inside, warmth, poof. [12:52]
asciilifeform nubbins`: opiate users typically od, paradoxically, after successfully quitting and then doing a bit again 'for old time's sake' [12:52]
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mircea_popescu ^ [12:52]
mircea_popescu but that's heroin. [12:52]
nubbins` asciilifeform some of my favourite musicians died this way [12:52]
asciilifeform they take their customary dose, having lost the tolerance [12:53]
nubbins` bradley nowell, 1996, 7 days after marriage [12:53]
asciilifeform aha this is specific to opium [12:53]
asciilifeform e.g, death of vysotsky [12:53]
thestringpuller $bids mpoe [12:53]
thestringpuller ah [12:53]
nubbins` opiate users can reach terrifically high levels of tolerance [12:53]
nubbins` to the point where a dose lethal in another man will maybe stop their headache. [12:53]
asciilifeform lethal in elephant [12:54]
* nubbins` pulls out remaining stops [12:54]
nubbins` lethal in elephant! [12:54]
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nubbins` anyway, worth noting that most recording musicians who tried heroin produced some of their best work while in the depths [12:54]
mircea_popescu anyway, clean gets you rid of all the stupid shit, anti worm medicine, drywall, w/e the fuck [12:55]
nubbins` ^ [12:55]
nubbins` reminds me of the time SWIM bought some adulterated marijuana [12:55]
nubbins` (not kidding) [12:55]
asciilifeform i've always wondered why american dope aficionados don't follow the 1980s soviet example and all switch to making (or at least refining) what they use personally [12:56]
nubbins` y'know how good dope has that covered-in-crystal look from all the resin-y trichomes? [12:56]
mircea_popescu and speaking of which... everyone i suppose is familiar with the otherworldly beauty of potassium permanganate ? [12:56]
asciilifeform (the first popular dope in ussr was what is today called meth, but there was no market in the usual sense. folks who took it, usually made it) [12:56]
nubbins` well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline... [12:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform got as better question for you. why do us dumb broads not switch to cooking at home ? [12:56]
mircea_popescu "oh, its a recession" "learned how to cook yet ?" "wut?!?!?!" [12:56]
nubbins` asciilifeform lack of skill. [12:56]
nubbins` asciilifeform: [12:56]
nubbins` ;;google krokodil [12:56]
gribble Krokodil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Krokodil (Desomorphine) Drug: Effects, Abuse & Warnings - Drugs ...: ; The World's Deadliest Drug: Inside a Krokodil Cookhouse | TIME: [12:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: no idea. the woman - cooks [12:57]
nubbins` that's what they're cooking at home these days [12:57]
mircea_popescu yeah but you two aren't really people. you're in here. [12:57]
asciilifeform nubbins`: when opiates took off, the approach failed [12:57]
nubbins` no krokodil here, too many prescription opiates to abuse [12:57]
nubbins` until they took oxycontin off the market [12:58]
nubbins` and all the addicts just vanished [12:58]
asciilifeform not because harder to synthesize, but because not a performance-enhancer that sets one going strong in the kitchen thinking of new methods [12:58]
nubbins` OH WAIT THEY DIDN'T [12:58]
mircea_popescu is this krokodil thing actually as widely used as teh "horrors in russia" ussa press makes it sound / [12:58]
nubbins` heh [12:58]
nubbins` opiates are definitely not a production-enhancer [12:58]
nubbins` mircea_popescu seems like meth in the usa -- cheap, so poor destitute people in poor destitute towns love it [12:59]
nubbins` there's a short Vice documentary on it, if you can stand to watch [12:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my impression is that it isn't. just a very marginal synthesis with the byproducts left in, with various grotesque 'zombie' aesthetic of decaying user. makes up in sensationalism for what lacks in actual 'epidemiology.' [12:59]
nubbins` ;;google vice krokodil [12:59]
gribble Siberia: Krokodil Tears | VICE | United States: ; Siberia: Krokodil Tears | VICE | United States: ; Krokodil: Russia's Deadliest Drug (NSFW) - YouTube: [12:59]
nubbins` ^ [12:59]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah i totally want to hear what vice has to say o.O [12:59]
nubbins` heh. [12:59]
nubbins` thye show people cooking it! [12:59]
asciilifeform fact is, every modern product 'for the poor' is a kind of krokodil [12:59]
nubbins` "now we add the eye drops" "why?" "makes it stronger" [13:00]
nubbins` ... [13:00]
nubbins` "now we collapse a major vein in our arms" [13:00]
mircea_popescu "why ? " [13:01]
mircea_popescu "makes it stronger" [13:01]
nubbins` heh [13:01]
nubbins` anyway, as actually derpy as everything Vice produces is [13:01]
asciilifeform 'stronger', if means anything, probably meant 'burns more when injected' [13:02]
nubbins` the krokodil doc is gross enough to distract from it [13:02]
nubbins` asciilifeform definitely was not an ingredient in the reaction they were trying to make occur. [13:02]
nubbins` something along the lines of the "chili powder" meth in breaking bad [13:02]
mircea_popescu "So what the hell do we buy now? HP's quality has hit rock bottom and is starting to dig, Lenovo is doing their best to destroy the Thinkpad brand, Asus is incapable of making a device without at least one fatal flaw... is Apple the only one making laptops that aren't garbage anymroe?" [13:02]
mircea_popescu methinks the consumer has a legitimate question [13:02]
nubbins` except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream [13:02]
mircea_popescu "what should i get for this weekend, meth or krok ?!~?!?!" [13:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: to which there is no answer [13:02]
mircea_popescu not for him anyway. [13:03]
asciilifeform or rather, the answer from the film 'war games' [13:03]
BingoBoingo except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream << Sometimes actually used in this manner [13:03]
asciilifeform 'the only winning move is: not to play' [13:03]
nubbins` BingoBoingo :0 i guess the chili powder will work about as well as the eyedrops, then [13:03]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [13:03]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.82, Best ask: 236.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.72000, Last trade: 236.57, 24 hour volume: 7044.67533017, 24 hour low: 232.05, 24 hour high: 238.87, 24 hour vwap: 235.887385513 [13:03]
asciilifeform the basic concept, as PeterL (chemist?) will attest, is that a synthesis doesn't necessarily (and most often) produce only one thing. each step will result in one or more unwanted substances, including everything that failed to react in previous steps [13:04]
asciilifeform some of the costliest operations in traditional pharma industry are recrystallizations/purifications [13:04]
asciilifeform hence for every type of -synthetic- (vs. refined from vegetation) dope, there is at least one 'krokodilian' variant where the folks making it didn't see it fit to bother with this detail. [13:05]
chetty and todays propaganda prize goes to: [13:05]
assbot Revealed: the countries with the best and worst diets in the world - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent [13:05]
asciilifeform (anybody else here take o-chem in school... other than PeterL and i) [13:05]
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BingoBoingo Took a semester of o-chem in highschool [13:07]
nubbins` asciilifeform when i was in colombia, there was a byproduct called "bazouk" or similar [13:07]
nubbins` made from leavings of the coca process [13:07]
asciilifeform aha refinement waste, yes, also exists [13:07]
nubbins` colombia 7/10 would not revisit [13:08]
PeterL sometimes for o-chem reaction a 40% yield is a good day [13:08]
asciilifeform and not only for dope. in usa restaurants have been selling 'fashionable' multi-grain bread. which i fully expect is made from shavings of cutting other kinds of bread at the bakeries [13:08]
BingoBoingo chetty: Mega lol, Africa wins nutrition [13:08]
nubbins` heh. [13:08]
asciilifeform PeterL: 40% is a dream for 'cellar chemists' [13:08]
nubbins` betcha they use white flour with a handful of other grains mixed in [13:09]
asciilifeform who lack Pd/Pt catalysts, high-pressure vessels, even a proper vacuum [13:09]
asciilifeform and hence are more or less stuck with 1840s state of the art [13:09]
* nubbins` adds wheat germ, crushed flax, hempseed, rolled oats to bread [13:09]
nubbins` and it costs 20% of what store-bought devitaminized bread does! [13:10]
PeterL on some multi-step reactions, think 50% yield 4 times, and you are lucky to have 6% of what you started with [13:10]
asciilifeform aha [13:10]
PeterL alot of what I was doing the past 3 years involved trying to get %yields higher [13:11]
asciilifeform and the remaining filling in the flask, hasn't gone anywhere, but has to be removed somehow. [13:11]
asciilifeform this is what the clandestine chemists don't always bother with. [13:11]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform> (anybody else here take o-chem in school << originally, 9yo me despised ochem, because no great flames like sulphur | potassium chloride etc. [13:39]
mircea_popescu then me discovered nitropaper. [13:39]
mircea_popescu chetty so who has best diet ? japan ? [13:40]
mircea_popescu "Regarding the VCs, I would give them the benefit of the doubt as well. What where they pitched?" [13:41]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The list is all African countries. [13:42]
mircea_popescu motherfucker, why does everyone want to indemnify the vcs ? they're absolutely the only guilty party in all this. [13:42]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: i have elementary knowledge of O-Chem. I love dat ATP Synthase (but who doesn't?) [13:42]
BingoBoingo The countries with the healthiest diets overall were: 1. Chad 2. Sierra Leone 3. Mali 4. Gambia 5. Uganda 6. Ghana 7. Ivory Coast 8. Senegal 9. Israel 10. Somalia [13:43]
mircea_popescu eh gtfo. [13:44]
mircea_popescu what was this based on, "Fewest fat fucks" ? [13:44]
BingoBoingo Prolly [13:45]
mircea_popescu "The most reliable street test in my opinion is actually the smell of cocaine, as it has a very distinct aroma that none of the additives possess. Unfortunately, for reference, this requires you to have smelt a lot of different cocaine of certain purities, and very few people have had that opportunity. Personally, I think I could estimate cocaine purity from its scent and from looking at and tasting a few milligrams, b [13:45]
mircea_popescu ut I’ve also handled quite a lot of different batches with known purities." [13:45]
mircea_popescu heh. known since forever. [13:45]
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mircea_popescu and in the daily wtf : [13:52]
assbot ... ( ) [13:53]
BingoBoingo [13:56]
assbot Netzapper comments on The Superfish Funder List ... ( ) [13:56]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu> actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag << pulp fiction doesn't "revolve around" anything -- kinda the point [13:58]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu> asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow. << LOL i just did such a thing / felt like i was gonna have a heart attack :/ [13:58]
mircea_popescu it's dangerous. cool temperatures favor clot formation [13:58]
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cjc BingoBoingo, thanks for the !up [14:02]
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thestringpuller danielpbarron: re Pulp Fiction << revolves around that suitcase mainly, cept for "interlude of chick OD'ing" [14:17]
thestringpuller danielpbarron: i still have nightmares about that butt rape scene. [14:18]
thestringpuller "Are you okay?" "Nah man." "I'm pretty fucking far from okay." [14:18]
danielpbarron Mr. About-to-spend-the-rest-of-his-short-life-in-agonizing-pain [14:19]
danielpbarron i wouldn't say it revolves around the suitcase [14:19]
danielpbarron the suitcase doesn't have much to do with the fixed boxing match [14:20]
danielpbarron i suppose all the different plots relate to marcellus wallace [14:20]
thestringpuller yea that interlude is only connected after jules retires and delivers the suitcase [14:21]
danielpbarron (the guy who gets butt raped) [14:21]
thestringpuller Yea I mean Wallace gets butt raped after he retrieves the suitcase. If that has any significance...I dunno [14:21]
thestringpuller "does he look like a bitch", well zed fucked him like one. Zed's dead, but you know... [14:22]
danielpbarron hah [14:22]
cjc There is fixation with ass there... the story of the watch is another one. [14:23]
thestringpuller oh christopher walken [14:23]
thestringpuller you guise are making me miss the 90's [14:24]
mircea_popescu yeah, pulp fiction revolves around tarantino's latent homosexuality. [14:29]
cjc One of the problems with the 90s was... when I bought Pulp Fiction as the first DVD I purchased ever... it was in letterbox format. [14:29]
cjc I had to wait several more years for it to be in high-def on home video. [14:29]
punkman mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! << nuh uh I went to school and even paid attention sometimes! [14:29]
mircea_popescu well can you name any tropane alkaloid that has an immune response associated ? [14:31]
punkman nope [14:31]
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mircea_popescu by far the vast majority of immune response is to proteins. the difference is about two degrees of magnitude in molecular weight. [14:32]
mircea_popescu some immune response is to an assortment of polysaccharids etc, but still. [14:32]
punkman (one of the cocaine vaccines uses big cholera protein to deliver cocaine molecule) [14:32]
mircea_popescu << this is pretty neat too. [14:34]
assbot ... ( ) [14:34]
mircea_popescu this one ? [14:35]
assbot Interception of Cocaine by Enzyme or Antibody Delivered with Viral Gene Transfer: A Novel Strategy for Preventing Relapse in Recovering Drug Users ... ( ) [14:36]
punkman nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline... << if only the retards came up with saline. I've read about some assholes using spray with glass beads (the kind used to make shiny road paint) that would penetrate the flowers. [14:37]
mircea_popescu "Since cocaine must dissociate from antibody before it can be metabolized, either in plasma or liver, such results seem surprising. " I'm willing to bet they misread the data, dun actually have a response at all, but hey. [14:38]
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punkman "I need to have a ticket to go camping in the desert" [14:50]
assbot Hackers Cut in Line at the Burning Man Ticket Sale—And Get Caught | WIRED ... ( ) [14:50]
[]bot Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before April" [14:51]
pete_dushenski "The Pirate Bay is bringing back moderators to delete spam accounts and fake Torrents" << agents finding new day jobs ? [14:52]
[]bot Bet placed: 1.00018 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before April" Odds: 100(Y):0(N) by coin, 100(Y):0(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.00018 BTC. Current weight: 99,997. [14:52]
punkman pete_dushenski: what would that get them? [14:52]
pete_dushenski plant broken seeds, remove functional ones [14:53]
pete_dushenski malware, spyware, etc. [14:53]
[]bot Bet created: "10% or greater incremental difficulty increase before June" [14:55]
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pete_dushenski "Areva, the French nuclear technology giant, warned on Monday that it was facing a loss of a magnitude that raises doubts about its ability to continue operations without an injection of state funds to restore its capital. The state-controlled company expects a 2014 net loss of about 4.9 billion euros, or $5.6 billion, from a loss of €500 million a year earlier." << blame the japs! [15:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00041988 = 3.8629 BTC [+] [15:14]
pete_dushenski though nuclear must be one hell of a tough industry [15:14]
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mircea_popescu actually it's cheap romanian electricity. [15:19]
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mircea_popescu eu market got integrated, lot of excess capacity in the east, there it goes. [15:19]
mircea_popescu putin is hurting the west with cheap energy about 10x more than whatever "sanctions" [15:20]
pete_dushenski is romanian leccy natural gas ? [15:24]
mircea_popescu a good chunk is actually nuclear [15:25]
mircea_popescu (france supported ro bid to eu chiefly because they needed ro heavy water). [15:25]
mircea_popescu but plenty hydrocarbons. [15:25]
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pete_dushenski my foggy memory of the romanian countryside is now clearning up.. [15:26]
pete_dushenski i do recall seeing a few nuclear plants now [15:27]
pete_dushenski french design, neh ? [15:27]
mircea_popescu candu [15:27]
mircea_popescu << this is actually trhe current data [15:27]
assbot Harta ... ( ) [15:27]
mircea_popescu currently exporting 1gw [15:28]
pete_dushenski lol actually, ro used candu (canadian) [15:28]
mircea_popescu (a lot more in summer due to hydro and less hydrocarbon usage for heating) [15:28]
pete_dushenski at least at Cernavodă [15:28]
mircea_popescu candu ^^ [15:28]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu yup! my bad! [15:29]
pete_dushenski you're too fast for me [15:29]
BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [15:29]
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ascii_field ty BingoBoingo [15:29]
ascii_field << mega-trololol [15:29]
mircea_popescu << in which we find most hn readers are pakistani ? [15:29]
assbot Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [15:30]
ascii_field mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, ^^ [15:30]
mircea_popescu Would you like a MIRRORED COPY OF YOUR OWN DATABASE? FROM THAT ERA? WE HAVE IT DO YOU? [15:31]
mircea_popescu lol. they don't, obv. [15:31]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: One of the lizards got drunk on the interent? [15:32]
ascii_field BingoBoingo: lizardEliza [15:32]
pete_dushenski " [15:32]
BingoBoingo lol [15:32]
mircea_popescu lolk [15:32]
pete_dushenski "United States Department of State has YET TO FEEL THE WRATH OF THE LLAMACOIN " [15:33]
pete_dushenski this guy's too good [15:33]
pete_dushenski maybe he's on reddit [15:33]
mircea_popescu maybe he's on lice powder. [15:34]
ascii_field let's play however. [15:35]
ascii_field imagine actual 3/4 inch tape [15:35]
ascii_field therefore almost certainly, a 'u-matic' [15:35]
mircea_popescu do i need to quote at you ? [15:35]
ascii_field yes [15:36]
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mircea_popescu "That's what it is. There's no such thing as "an idea", for damn sure." [15:37]
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mircea_popescu that tape, it's nothing but a fetish of "an idea". [15:37]
ascii_field well sure [15:37]
mircea_popescu "You can't have an idea. It's not a thing, not something to "have". It's not like a chocolate cake, you get your hands on it that's that, it's yours." [15:37]
mircea_popescu "oh what if i make it a chocolate tape then!!1" [15:38]
mircea_popescu not how this works. [15:38]
ascii_field trying to reverse-engineer the theatrical props here [15:38]
ascii_field to see in what kind of studio the production was filmed. [15:38]
ascii_field of the fantasy. [15:38]
mircea_popescu you mean the commenter's ? [15:38]
ascii_field aha [15:38]
mircea_popescu he sounds like run of the mill overstimulated geek to me. [15:38]
ascii_field usually there are obvious technical gaffes [15:38]
ascii_field in these [15:38]
mircea_popescu all the way down to "imagine all the people derping in harmonee" [15:39]
* ascii_field connoisseur [15:39]
mircea_popescu you mean ascii field_connoisseur ? [15:39]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: yes but that's normal acid trip not technical gaffe [15:39]
ascii_field separate the two [15:39]
mircea_popescu aite. [15:39]
pete_dushenski "Monsanto said Wednesday its earnings fell 34% in its first fiscal quarter" << fucken derps following cisco to the grave. such paper signers. [15:44]
mircea_popescu ascii_field so anything good ? [15:46]
ascii_field it's short enough, just read it [15:46]
ascii_field good lulz [15:46]
mircea_popescu i skimmed. was curious more in the method of separating the two, if meaningfully applicable. [15:47]
mircea_popescu ;;google E4A966FF04DD296A41F5AAD497C64494 [15:48]
gribble No matches found. [15:48]
ascii_field 128b. [15:49]
mircea_popescu [15:49]
mircea_popescu v3 srsly ? [15:49]
ascii_field iirc there was once support for 128b md5 fp [15:51]
mircea_popescu yeh. while ago. [15:52]
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ascii_field and which loftus ? [15:54]
ascii_field pediwikia's ? [15:54]
assbot John Loftus (author) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [15:54]
mircea_popescu imo this is pointless wankery. [15:54]
ascii_field not if we spoodge [15:54]
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mircea_popescu << tlp's sufferances as an amateur financier on an etrade account, and his efforts to cope and come to terms with it is a whole opera in and of itself. [15:55]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Economy: Where We Go From Here ... ( ) [15:55]
ascii_field the clock ad on that site is hilarious [15:56]
mircea_popescu funny how the otherwise very competent psych does not feel comfortable taking off the coat and hat, and waddling in the mud modestly like any amateur. [15:56]
assbot ... ( ) [15:56]
ascii_field it's 1500 again and clocks have one hand ? [15:56]
mircea_popescu it has ads ? [15:57]
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ascii_field ty BingoBoingo [16:01]
BingoBoingo Oh reddit disappeared, but didn't really delete a qntra link... again [16:02]
BingoBoingo [16:02]
assbot The Superfish Funder List : programming ... ( ) [16:02]
mircea_popescu lol [16:02]
BingoBoingo No longer visible on pages [16:03]
mircea_popescu programming, this time. clearly it's happening without the subreddit mod's knowledge, there's no overlap about bitcoin tards and programmers. [16:03]
mircea_popescu mind leaving a link to log on article discussing this for future ? [16:03]
ascii_field '...the Venture Capital Firms which made Superfish possible...' << lol! amerika where even spamware tr0j4n needs vc investment [16:04]
ascii_field can i get vc funding to sp4m l1k3 4 pr0? plz? [16:04]
mircea_popescu you gotta eat a lot of conference salty biscuit first. [16:06]
ascii_field very salty [16:06]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: [16:07]
assbot The Superfish Funder List | ... ( ) [16:07]
ascii_field bukkakiscuit [16:07]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i meant and [16:08]
assbot "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... ( ) [16:08]
assbot It's Easy To Call Us A Tiny Minority When You Engage In Vote Manipulation | ... ( ) [16:08]
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ascii_field 'cryptome' under extra-thick ddos today... [16:14]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: [16:14]
assbot ButterNubber comments on The Superfish Funder List ... ( ) [16:14]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: Noticed that a few hours ago [16:14]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i meant the other way :D [16:15]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Ah, now I'm more confused than ever [16:18]
mircea_popescu :) [16:18]
mircea_popescu i just want a functional reference point tree for when this topic is discussed in future. currently, my go-to link for "reddit manipulation" is either the trilema or the qntrea article. it's beneficial if they somewhere (like in comments) have a link to a later case they didn't substantially cover [16:18]
ascii_field at 'hackernews' hand-twiddling the story ratings and outright burial ordered from above has been sop since day one. but the reddit cesspool has generally been left alone (other than by armies of muppets, electric and meat alike) until recently. [16:20]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [16:28]
gribble Current Blocks: 344843 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1908 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 43058313524.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.76719 [16:28]
ascii_field re: sata on netbsd: i get same effect (garbage read for drive manuf. name and lba max params on init) if plugging in sata drive on original uboot console [16:31]
ascii_field (in uboot shell) [16:31]
ascii_field there's some magic init trick [16:31]
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ascii_field danke BingoBoingo! [16:33]
ascii_field << does not provide a smash-your-face-obvious clue re: above [16:33]
assbot ... ( ) [16:33]
ascii_field if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm) [16:34]
ascii_field the original marvell-patched kernel mod is mega-gnarly [16:34]
ascii_field (the one on pogo's www) [16:34]
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scoopbot New post on by Bingo Boingo: [16:43]
ascii_field The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really [16:44]
ascii_field the whole 'shutdown' circus is wholly for show. [16:44]
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assbot The Mac Facilitates Spying Too | Zit Seng's Blog ... ( ) [16:46]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: But in fiat land with monthly bill payments, even a delay can be catastrophic to the stooge [16:47]
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ascii_field jurov: i still don't get why usg would use anything other than the most 'respectable' root certs ('verisign' et al) for their shenanigans [16:48]
NewLiberty 'Jeh C. Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary, said that it was “indulging in a fantasy to believe you can shut down the Department of Homeland Security and there be no impact to homeland security itself.”' Sure it might become more secure when the security theater show ends and people start taking personal responsibility. [16:49]
ascii_field deniability? sure, 'umm sorry taiwanese factory, umm, lost, signing key' a la stuxnet [16:49]
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jurov cryptome is down.. are we the new slashdot? [16:54]
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BingoBoingo literal butthurt,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wjqk8l4uyrlvvu5c8svh.jpg [17:03]
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ascii_field ty BingoBoingo [17:04]
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BingoBoingo Hello wayne [17:11]
wayne thanks for the +v [17:12]
wayne hi [17:12]
mircea_popescu ello [17:14]
mircea_popescu The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really << check it out, usg trying to steal b-a. [17:15]
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ascii_field they still get paid [17:16]
ascii_field (but no interest on late wages, iirc) [17:16]
mircea_popescu yaya. [17:16]
ascii_field and they don't clock in 'for the motherland' but to keep the job [17:17]
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wayne what is this channel for? general btc discussion? the website is a big ambiguous. [17:17]
wayne bit, rather [17:17]
mircea_popescu this is where bitcoin policy is set. [17:17]
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mircea_popescu generally you are expected to read the logs for the next year to get acclimated. [17:18]
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wayne hey joecool [17:19]
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felipelalli wayne: the rule here is: read the full log and back next year. We'll wait. [17:20]
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felipelalli (PS: I'm still reading) [17:20]
chetty don't worry if you miss a day, someone will point it out (happens to me all the time) [17:21]
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wayne so everyone starts reading from april 26th? [17:22]
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ben_vulpes sometimes april 1st [17:24]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: [17:31]
mircea_popescu for my curiosity, anyone still remember the elizabeth smart thing ? "kidnapped" 14yo utah blondie goes to party with "kidnappers" etc ? [17:33]
mircea_popescu apud Ballas : "I know, I know, she's only 15-- terrified, Stockholm Syndrome, etc. And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her, I didn't live her life. Though that brings us back to the black teen: why is fear an acceptable explanation for poor judgment, but anger is not? (Hint: they're both not.)" [17:33]
mircea_popescu in point of fact you can readily distinguish the male dominated society from the female dominated society, because they each succumb to their own foibles. [17:34]
mircea_popescu in dudeland anger is accepted explanation, fear is not. in broadland, the reverse. [17:34]
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mircea_popescu yes, they're both not. hasn't yet happened on god's green earth tho. [17:34]
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ascii_field ty BingoBoingo! [17:35]
mircea_popescu wayne well not everyone joins at the same time. [17:35]
mircea_popescu and speaking of which, [17:35]
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punkman wayne, good day to start is when voice requirement was introduced [17:39]
punkman also the search engine is great for finding interesting threads from the past [17:39]
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chetty And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her// the root of much evil in this world [17:51]
mircea_popescu quite. [17:54]
mircea_popescu i also have no right to calculate sun's orbit, as i'm no sun. [17:54]
ascii_field !b 3 [17:54]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [17:54]
mircea_popescu this is techniucally correct, i have NO RIGHT. nor do i wish to have such a right, fuck rights with a solder rifle. [17:54]
mircea_popescu i have the fucking freedom to do it, and im dying with it. [17:54]
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ascii_field ty thestringpuller! [17:55]
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plonky thank BingoBoingo [18:54]
plonky just created new gpg keypair [18:54]
plonky and registered to gribble [18:54]
plonky im hegemoOn [18:54]
mike_c mircea_popescu: re your asshole post. I believe GOOG split in the meantime.. [18:55]
plonky but anyway new nickname, as far as i lost my previous gpg key associated with hegemoOn [18:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14667 @ 0.00041186 = 6.0408 BTC [+] {3} [18:56]
danielpbarron !gettrust plonky [18:58]
assbot plonky is not registered in WoT. [18:58]
plonky i just ;;eauth [18:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8783 @ 0.00042149 = 3.7019 BTC [+] {3} [18:58]
plonky 22:50:10 gribble | You are now authenticated for user plonky with key BACBCE400996EB88 [18:59]
danielpbarron plonky, which bot responded to me when I typed '!gettrust' ? [18:59]
plonky assbot [18:59]
plonky ! [18:59]
danielpbarron athereyougo [18:59]
plonky !help [19:00]
assbot [19:00]
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plonky seems the fingerprint of my key isnt satisfying assbot [19:08]
mircea_popescu mike_c hm, i remember them wanting to for years but then they got sued not to [19:09]
mircea_popescu never heard that being ruled on so i just asumed they dropped it. [19:09]
mats [19:09]
assbot Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran nuclear programme - Al Jazeera English ... ( ) [19:09]
mats that pic lol. [19:10]
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mircea_popescu in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live. [19:10]
mircea_popescu mike_c turns out they did last year. thanks! [19:12]
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mike_c yw. [19:15]
danielpbarron ;;ident plonky [19:16]
gribble Nick 'plonky', with hostmask 'plonky!', is identified as user 'plonky', with GPG key id BACBCE400996EB88, key fingerprint 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88, and bitcoin address None [19:16]
danielpbarron plonky, are you using this one ----------^ [19:16]
plonky ok [19:16]
danielpbarron try it in here so kakobrekla can see [19:19]
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danielpbarron !up plonky [19:22]
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plonky !register plonky 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88 [19:22]
assbot That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. [19:22]
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plonky maybe im too stupid [19:23]
mircea_popescu it's valid alright [19:23]
plonky yeah it's me :) [19:24]
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mircea_popescu no name [19:25]
mircea_popescu try !register 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88 [19:26]
plonky !register 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88 [19:26]
assbot Searching for key with fingerprint: 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88. This may take a few moments. [19:26]
assbot Key 0996EB88 / "netmonk " successfully imported. [19:26]
assbot Registration successful. [19:26]
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plonky ok so my trust is 0 [19:28]
plonky so pretty useless at the moment ! [19:28]
plonky ty mircea_popescu [19:28]
plonky and danielpbarron [19:28]
mircea_popescu so what do you do ? [19:28]
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plonky well, don't know :) i can ask fluffypony to rate me again :) [19:30]
danielpbarron !gettrust hegemoOn [19:31]
assbot Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user hegemoOn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | | [19:31]
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mircea_popescu plonky you do archlinux ? [19:31]
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plonky mircea_popescu: yes :) [19:32]
plonky you can find me on the archwiki [19:32]
plonky in the security team :) [19:32]
plonky and few commint on other topic [19:32]
mircea_popescu peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while, prolly can help with that [19:32]
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plonky pogoplug ? [19:32]
danielpbarron plonky, [19:33]
assbot Logged on 23-02-2015 19:29:52; ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm) [19:33]
danielpbarron there is a bug in netbsd regarding sata drives that archlinux does not have [19:34]
plonky well, kernel are compiled and distributed as binary [19:34]
plonky as far you know on archlinux [19:34]
plonky but a mail on mailing list could help or /join #archlinux [19:34]
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bitstein Assbot should have a reminder command. [19:39]
bitstein !remind 5 years this tweet: [19:39]
assbot /hashtag/blockchains?src=hash are a friggin database technology; 5 years down I doubt any users will care what the underlying network token is [19:39]
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plonky i bet ascii_field is asciilifeform ? [19:41]
fluffypony plonky: did you break your GPG? [19:41]
plonky fluffypony: yeah [19:42]
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fluffypony ;;rated hegemoon [19:42]
gribble You rated user hegemoon on Wed Jul 2 08:48:10 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: smooth PPEUR for XMR trade, no issues. [19:42]
plonky it was a time monero was meaning something :) [19:42]
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plonky 170 euros, 200 monero iirc [19:43]
fluffypony ;;rate plonky 1 PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account [19:43]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user plonky has been recorded. [19:43]
plonky :) [19:43]
plonky thanks sir [19:43]
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fluffypony oh [19:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9536 @ 0.00039998 = 3.8142 BTC [+] [19:43]
fluffypony !rate plonky 1 PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account [19:43]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: [19:43]
plonky thanks again [19:43]
fluffypony how do I verify the rating? [19:44]
fluffypony (once the string has been decrypted I mean) [19:44]
danielpbarron !v [19:44]
assbot Need a decrypted verification string. [19:44]
fluffypony !v assbot:fluffypony.rate.plonky.1:2dc1b7ff690f2bd0c195b81db1a34d09eaefb5da684e8997ff0eaa8f861c0589 [19:44]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for plonky with note: PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account [19:44]
fluffypony thanks danielpbarron [19:44]
danielpbarron things and strings go in the V [19:45]
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ascii_field ty BingoBoingo! [19:47]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while << actually, we - or, rather me - have been trying to get it -off- arch [19:47]
ascii_field because it's a fucking hog [19:47]
mircea_popescu did the mystery bit ever get resolved ? [19:47]
ascii_field not yet [19:47]
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assbot svntogit/packages.git - Git clone of the 'packages' repository [19:48]
* ascii_field schmuck occupied all day with PayingWork (tm) [19:48]
plonky this one is the answer [19:48]
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plonky with all the patch included to kernel compilation in archlinux [19:48]
ascii_field plonky: do you know for certain that this is the very same arch as was published (see log) for use on 'pogo' ? [19:49]
plonky if you can explain what mean "for use on pogo", i would understand better :) [19:49]
ascii_field or wtf [19:50]
danielpbarron plonky, [19:50]
assbot Pogoplug Series 4 | Arch Linux ARM ... ( ) [19:50]
ascii_field that's an x86 build script [19:50]
ascii_field (what plonky linked to) [19:50]
plonky ok [19:50]
ascii_field nothing whatsoever to do with us [19:50]
plonky i better understand :) [19:50]
plonky so /join #archlinux-arm [19:50]
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ascii_field << is probably the binary [19:53]
BingoBoingo !up plonky [19:53]
ascii_field but where's the source [19:53]
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plonky ascii_field: which arm version ? [19:54]
BingoBoingo !s bucket [19:54]
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BingoBoingo plonky: Arm v5, pogoplug v4 [19:54]
plonky ascii_field: [19:54]
assbot PKGBUILDs/PKGBUILD at master · archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs · GitHub ... ( ) [19:54]
plonky this is the pkgbuild of the kernel [19:54]
ascii_field plonky, others: it isn't just a question of 'which arm' [19:55]
ascii_field (5) [19:55]
ascii_field but specific system-on-chip that has all the peripherals [19:55]
ascii_field [19:55]
ascii_field ^ described here [19:55]
assbot ... ( ) [19:55]
ascii_field the ethernet, sata, usb, etc. are all on same die [19:55]
ascii_field but it's a little-endian arm 5, yes. [19:56]
plonky ascii_field: ok look at my url, it point to the kernel config of kirkwood release ! [19:56]
ascii_field ty plonky [19:56]
ascii_field that's probably it. [19:56]
ascii_field will have to build and run the damn thing to be sure [19:56]
ascii_field if one of you folks with free time want to do this - appreciated. [19:57]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live << what was the detonation velocity ? [20:00]
* plonky switched from archlinux-arm to cubian on his cubieboard btw [20:01]
ascii_field in other news from the lulzfarms, [20:01]
assbot The Spy Cables: A glimpse into the world of espionage - Al Jazeera English ... ( ) [20:01]
ascii_field plonky: ultimate goal is netbsd with maximally stripped down kernel and scarcely any userland at all beyond bitcoind [20:02]
ascii_field whole shebang should weigh a couple of MB gzipped. [20:02]
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ben_vulpes i can sorta read -assets logs backwards now [20:04]
ben_vulpes neat trick, that [20:04]
danielpbarron i think i finally bricked a pogo; rebooted the one with the netconsole thing setup (which has worked in the past) and now i get nothing out of it :< [20:05]
danielpbarron "bricked" // i'll just use this one when my usb thingy arrives [20:06]
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plonky ascii_field: lot of SATA reference in this patchfile [20:07]
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danielpbarron nevermind false alarm [20:11]
ascii_field << possibly this [20:11]
assbot PKGBUILDs/archlinuxarm.patch at master · archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs · GitHub ... ( ) [20:11]
plonky is it similar behaviour you have on netbsd ? [20:12]
plonky i mean stop of work after few minutes ? [20:13]
ascii_field never works at all [20:13]
ascii_field so probably not [20:13]
plonky and what does the netbsd guy say ? [20:13]
ascii_field and on second thought we don't have a 88sx7042 either [20:13]
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ascii_field netbsd guy ? [20:14]
plonky yeah netbsd developpers, who are in charge of arm support [20:14]
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danielpbarron plonky, do you know of any such people in the WoT? [20:15]
plonky because it's easy to have a kernel booting and displaying lines in console [20:15]
plonky but a bit harder to have a full hardware support [20:15]
plonky danielpbarron: not that i know [20:15]
plonky i mean, sending email to the right mailing list explaining your problem [20:16]
plonky can bring the official dev support [20:16]
ascii_field [20:16]
ascii_field ^ him [20:16]
ascii_field anyone's guess if he has the time, inclination, or this particular piece of hardware to even try [20:16]
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ascii_field ty BingoBoingo [20:17]
plonky [20:17]
assbot NetBSD mailing lists ... ( ) [20:17]
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ascii_field plonky: the one thing definitely known is that the bug is specific to this one particular marvell soc [20:18]
plonky one of my systema trainer once told me : if you don't ask, you will never get answer [20:18]
mircea_popescu ascii_field about the same as an unladden swallow [20:18]
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mircea_popescu (was gas thing, killed a guy_ [20:18]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: i thought your tool gave a number [20:18]
scoopbot New post on by Bingo Boingo: [20:19]
mircea_popescu i don't personally do everything! [20:19]
ascii_field l0l [20:19]
* ascii_field does [20:20]
mircea_popescu i tend to limit what i personally do to women. [20:20]
ascii_field good idea if engineering-practical [20:20]
mircea_popescu plonky looky, the question here is whether you can be useful not whether he needs some advice. [20:20]
ascii_field i was just about to say. [20:21]
* ascii_field does not need to be told, usually, that 'it works better if you plug it in' [20:21]
ascii_field and neither do the other folks in #b-a [20:21]
ascii_field but to be fair: plonky found for me what i asked for [20:21]
ascii_field (the archturd) [20:22]
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plonky alright [20:30]
plonky i will keep advice for myself, no offense. [20:31]
BingoBoingo plonky: It takes time to get to know what advice might be useful as opposed to being noise, that's what the reading is for. [20:32]
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danielpbarron i got my pogo to load asciilifeform's netbsd.ub over ftp, and it stops at "Starting kernel ..." // is this step supposed to get a long time? [20:44]
danielpbarron take* [20:44]
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ben_vulpes i generally know the thing needs plugging in but frequently find myself unable to line up the right pins with the right sockets [21:00]
ben_vulpes end up ripping the fixture out of the wall and soldering things together. [21:01]
ben_vulpes because abandonware. [21:01]
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asciilifeform danielpbarron: what kind of output were you expecting to see without a serial cable ?! [21:50]
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danielpbarron asciilifeform, none; just confirming my expectations [22:06]
danielpbarron is the netcat thing even needed? [22:07]
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asciilifeform danielpbarron: it's needed if you have no serial cable and want to screw with uboot [22:09]
asciilifeform otherwise not at all. [22:09]
asciilifeform unrelated/historical >> << 'not a bunker w/out spring mounted toilet!' [22:09]
assbot ATT Chesterfield ... ( ) [22:09]
mircea_popescu i wonder what they think "nuclear hardened" means. [22:12]
asciilifeform << related [22:13]
assbot Mysterious Cold War bunker closes | ... ( ) [22:13]
asciilifeform (architectural/historical interest) [22:13]
mircea_popescu 5feet doesn't sound like much. [22:13]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I find the historical bunker bezzel fascinating. Especially with the missile sites that were getting outdated and replaced within 5 years. The ATT bunkers though... some nice real estate [22:13]
asciilifeform of earth; more of cement [22:13]
asciilifeform bunker-building was a major racket in usa [22:14]
asciilifeform at one time [22:14]
asciilifeform and afaik nobody cancelled bunkers, but the 'golden age of usg' gigantomania is gone. [22:15]
BingoBoingo Well, private bunkers are the new racket [22:16]
mircea_popescu 40acres for 200k. [22:16]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: private 'gtfo' arrangements are the new racket [22:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That too. Still some people do brisk business selling corrugated steel tubes [22:17]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: << even more, incl. period equipment [22:20]
assbot ATT Cheshire underground facility. ... ( ) [22:20]
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BingoBoingo Ah, more toilet springs [22:23]
asciilifeform found that site by sheer accident, while idly looking for what's commercial state of the art in shock wave detectors [22:25]
asciilifeform (from earlier thread) [22:25]
* asciilifeform out of date on the subject [22:25]
mircea_popescu i'm not terribly impressed with the depicted blastdoors, but anyway [22:25]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: according to the historical docs, the sites in question were rated for particular 'overpressures' - and some were 'graded down' upon inspection after constructed [22:26]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Definitely a particularly interesting site. Microwave tower is rather thin on antennas so facility must have had other serious justification [22:27]
mircea_popescu aha [22:27]
asciilifeform so mircea_popescu is not the only one who wasn't impressed [22:27]
asciilifeform builders sc4mz0r3d usg [22:27]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: horns [22:27]
mircea_popescu myeah. [22:27]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you need one (or two, redundant) for each direction of link [22:27]
asciilifeform and the horns themselves were merely backups for the more famous underground coax [22:28]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sure, but The towers around here tend to have more horns and more tower for mounting horns [22:28]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: there are horns where you live ?! [22:28]
mircea_popescu you thinking cellphgone microwave drums ? [22:28]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: We have a big microwave tower on the north side of town [22:28]
mircea_popescu slightly different item [22:28]
asciilifeform very different. [22:29]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Between highway and park in hometown Big antenna, wimpy bunker [22:31]
assbot highland silver lake park - Google Maps ... ( ) [22:31]
BingoBoingo Common arrangement in the Middle West [22:31]
BingoBoingo "Longline" service [22:31]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: looks quite like the others. [22:32]
asciilifeform can even see the cracks on the asphalt. [22:32]
asciilifeform probably not sold at time of photo. [22:32]
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BingoBoingo Well no reason not to. Just maybe it is an elevation thing but CT bunker seems like it could have moar tower [22:33]
asciilifeform elevation thing [22:33]
asciilifeform,-89.692103&spn=0.002812,0.001632&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=38.761673,-89.691976&panoid=HPZxYzCY4v-Tms2dG9AMcA&cbp=12,354.34,,1,-19.35 << BingoBoingo's tower definitely has cellular antennae now [22:34]
assbot highland silver lake park - Google Maps ... ( ) [22:34]
asciilifeform in addition to the classical horns [22:34]
BingoBoingo << 2004 vintage [22:35]
assbot ... ( ) [22:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's that ?! [22:36]
BingoBoingo << 2012 with Cellular turds [22:37]
assbot ... ( ) [22:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: or, more specifically, what is the flying object [22:37]
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BingoBoingo And since we are bringing up the hometown behold the drive Federalis made to visit, note the major city very close to the destination [22:47]
assbot peoria illinois highland illinois - Google Maps ... ( ) [22:47]
asciilifeform << hilarious bezzlatron [22:49]
assbot Senstar - The Trusted Choice for Perimeter Intrusion Detection and Security Solutions ... ( ) [22:49]
asciilifeform << giant catalogue of usg auschwitzmatics [22:50]
assbot Browse Perimeter Security & Physical Hardening Products ... ( ) [22:50]
BingoBoingo Mega lol, where's the robot's Mosin? [22:52]
asciilifeform can connect alarm out cable to whatever? [22:52]
BingoBoingo If Intel can plan on sending silicon to abadon anything is possible [22:54]
asciilifeform << moar lulz [22:55]
assbot ... ( ) [22:55]
* asciilifeform secretly imagines the opposite of this firm [22:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform a nato round expelled [22:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: just now? [22:56]
mircea_popescu in the gif. is what you meant ? [22:56]
asciilifeform aha [22:57]
asciilifeform lol [22:57]
asciilifeform i was still thinking about the wave detector! [22:57]
asciilifeform but it all makes sense now [22:57]
asciilifeform should've noticed the earmuffs [22:58]
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mircea_popescu << actually tlp has excellent working theory on 'what happened'. [22:59]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Cookie Monster Becomes Aware ... ( ) [22:59]
mircea_popescu baby boomers checked out of society, their kids were raised by the tv set, the result is the current usg. [22:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: old ('60s-'70s?) news ? [23:00]
mircea_popescu not news in any sense. well stated. [23:00]
mircea_popescu it also means no meta nsa you know. [23:01]
asciilifeform why'd that be [23:01]
asciilifeform not everybody's a degenerate [23:01]
mircea_popescu orly. [23:01]
mircea_popescu not how this works. biological samples are either uniformly infected or not infected. [23:02]
asciilifeform now, granted, i don't work at meta-nsa... [23:02]
asciilifeform but the folks i work with weren't raised by tv. [23:02]
asciilifeform nor was the woman [23:02]
asciilifeform nor any of the people i associate with voluntarily in meatspace, really [23:03]
asciilifeform not a uniform infection, this. [23:03]
mircea_popescu but what that does is... it takes them out of sample. [23:03]
asciilifeform meta-nsa can also take out of sample, no ? [23:03]
mircea_popescu no. [23:04]
asciilifeform or what, ant can do, but elephant cannot ? [23:04]
BingoBoingo it also means no meta nsa you know. << That show in particular was designed to bring about reddit society [23:04]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo only retrospectively. prospectively, it was designed to bring about "a better world", as some people imagined it. [23:04]
mircea_popescu that "a better world" as some people imagine it is always laughably derpy is no secret. [23:04]
cazalla that oscar was such a troll, down voting [23:04]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: And in every "about" derp they mention the "better world" being governance via reddit and tumblr ethics [23:05]
mircea_popescu if you don't know very much, all sorts of stuff smells like salvation. [23:05]
BingoBoingo And it's no coincidence that Elmo was played by a chomo [23:05]
mircea_popescu some idiots somewhere put pen to paper cca 1700 to communicate the idea that "if only we made the children of the scum literate the word would be a paradise" [23:06]
BingoBoingo No, just means you have to sort through "literate" scum to find literature [23:07]
BingoBoingo Related: [23:09]
assbot Prison survival guides: Books and videos for navigating life on the inside. ... ( ) [23:09]
mircea_popescu they're going to have a dating/selfhelp for this, too ? [23:09]
mircea_popescu pretty soon derps in prison so numerous actual prisoners are too wtf'd at these idiots running around dreaming a little dream they just hang themselves ? [23:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lulzier still, there are -schools- for 'white collar' derps who are expecting prison [23:10]
asciilifeform as in, expensive 'academies' where... something or other.. is taught [23:10]
mircea_popescu no wai ?! [23:10]
mircea_popescu uh. [23:10]
* asciilifeform doesn't have the link handy [23:10]
BingoBoingo "Kerness says she sends the manual to anyone who writes to her organization asking for one. Until recently she had no trouble getting the materials into people’s hands, but recently, she says she has started receiving pushback from some facilities." [23:12]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: "Get ready for prison" camp is actually a thing is USia [23:12]
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asciilifeform l0l!! [23:13]
mircea_popescu does it go "kill someone on your first day, the flimsier reason the better, the more blood the better" ? [23:13]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is it like the "baby delivery" school, in that it involves "all family members" for maximal bezzletronicity ? [23:13]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seems to from what I can find on the subject. [23:14]
BingoBoingo also a lot of "Eastern" meditate and Zen bullshit [23:14]
mircea_popescu do they have pay per view in prison yet ? [23:15]
BingoBoingo nah [23:15]
BingoBoingo They have cable in the county jail I've heard through reports [23:15]
mircea_popescu why not ? bad for the economy. [23:16]
BingoBoingo Just extended basic though [23:16]
mircea_popescu "No matter how many episodes of Orange Is the New Black you’ve binge-watched, the experience of life behind bars is basically unfathomable to those of us who have only ever known freedom." [23:16]
mircea_popescu gtfo, what usian has known freedom ?! [23:17]
mircea_popescu they're so fucking free they despair for a guide of "how to behave" in prison. [23:17]
mircea_popescu god forbid you misbehave. they may jail you! [23:17]
* asciilifeform secret connoisseur of 'rotting in prison' literature. has most of a bookcase - and none is in eng. doesn't know of any in that language worth keeping [23:17]
BingoBoingo I've heard reports that county jail isnt so bad, worst part is the stigma from people on the outside [23:18]
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mircea_popescu ironically, most married with children white collar men i know would actually enjoy prison [23:18]
mircea_popescu they're petrified of it, of course, but it'd be a rational move for them. [23:18]
asciilifeform how's that [23:19]
mircea_popescu state's paying your mortgage, for one. [23:19]
asciilifeform not everybody likes buggery.. [23:19]
mircea_popescu ever seen someone in that demo be BORED ? [23:19]
mircea_popescu eh get out. [23:19]
mircea_popescu most people don't bother fucking their wives, why do you imagine they'd bother with some dude. [23:19]
asciilifeform wai wat [23:19]
mircea_popescu ask around. [23:20]
BingoBoingo I don't have children so would like to avoid prison and buggery. Still my survival strategy would consist largely of join the first white power gang that comes knocking. [23:20]
* asciilifeform checks coordinates, seems like on same planet as mircea_popescu - but wat [23:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform stop the first woman over 30 you see, ask her if she had sex today. [23:20]
BingoBoingo !up nullB [23:21]
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* asciilifeform would have to leave the bubble dome to do mircea_popescu's suggested experiment [23:21]
mircea_popescu why ? [23:21]
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* asciilifeform on typical day doesn't see any women other than one kept as pet [23:22]
mircea_popescu now multiply this by a reddit, and you see where we are. [23:22]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [23:22]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [23:22]
mircea_popescu but it's fine, send the pet out on a fact finding expedition. [23:23]
BingoBoingo In USia this is an elite athlete >> [23:23]
assbot CC Sabathia Gained A Bunch Of Weight, On Purpose ... ( ) [23:23]
asciilifeform pet could quite likely walk until its legs give out, without finding the fact [23:23]
mircea_popescu what if you get 12 out of 12 nos ? [23:24]
mircea_popescu will it be a meta-fucking ? [23:24]
asciilifeform i can believe this [23:24]
mircea_popescu most people don't bother fucking their wives. why'd they bother with some random dude. [23:24]
asciilifeform afaik this normally happens because the wife breaks down [23:25]
mircea_popescu not to say rape doesn't exist in prison. however, celebrity also exists in california. [23:25]
mircea_popescu you can live a whole life w/o running into either just fine. [23:25]
mircea_popescu eh bs. [23:25]
BingoBoingo most people don't bother fucking their wives. why'd they bother with some random dude. << Prolly so random dude doesn't fuck them. WHy do dogs sniff assholes [23:25]
mircea_popescu i never heard of a farmer not milking his cows because "they broke down", or not slaugthering the pigs etc. [23:26]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is not (yet!) an industry in usa devoted to helping pigs slaughter farmers [23:26]
mircea_popescu heh. [23:26]
mircea_popescu anyway, to make this easier to approach, i would propose the situation depicted in american history x is perhaps the best summary of the situation. [23:27]
mircea_popescu there's exactly one rape there, and it comes out of a political struggle. [23:27]
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BingoBoingo there's exactly one rape there, and it comes out of a political struggle. << Is rape ever anything other than politics? [23:28]
mircea_popescu well that's complicated. [23:28]
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mircea_popescu a while back i ran a "what'd you do with 100k euro" thing on my blog (because some fucktarded populists were "promoting a law" to give every schmuck 20k - romanians don't want living wages, they want universal windfalls) [23:31]
mircea_popescu most people that had a decent career etc wanted - 1 year's vacation. and to sleep. [23:31]
asciilifeform sleep! [23:32]
* asciilifeform salivates [23:32]
* asciilifeform has sleep fantasies [23:32]
mircea_popescu see ? [23:32]
mircea_popescu so they put you in this place, which is fundamentally quiet. you can't be disturbed. [23:32]
mircea_popescu think about it. [23:32]
mircea_popescu and then... well... you can sleep. [23:32]
asciilifeform aha lol in what country [23:32]
mircea_popescu you can think. [23:32]
mircea_popescu in all countries. [23:33]
asciilifeform gotta get really lucky in usa to go straight to supermax [23:33]
mircea_popescu solitary is a "punishment" [23:33]
asciilifeform (usg term for the classic dungeon where you get to sit alone) [23:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but understand : there can be no further emergencies. [23:33]
mircea_popescu nothing's important. [23:33]
BingoBoingo gotta get really lucky in usa to go straight to supermax << Illinois closed its onlu supermax at Tamms not long ago. Now there is only Noisemax unless you go federal [23:34]
asciilifeform interestingly, ru supermax is 2 schmucks per cell. [23:34]
asciilifeform (modern ru) [23:34]
asciilifeform at any rate, the 'eat a horse' effect is at work [23:35]
asciilifeform very few people would enjoy actually eating the horse [23:35]
asciilifeform or, more to the point, drinking the sea [23:36]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You forget failed Anglos founded USia, roommate jsut means orfice to use as escape from sensory deprivation [23:36]
mircea_popescu some time with their thoughts hindered no adult thinker. [23:36]
mircea_popescu getting to do it while someone else pays for it - not just the roof and food, but the "whose fault it is!" is ideal. [23:37]
mircea_popescu in other news, finally discovered the reason contemporary muzak sucks so bad. [23:38]
assbot ... ( ) [23:38]
BingoBoingo some time with their thoughts hindered no adult thinker. << No guarentee roommate would be adult thinker [23:39]
mircea_popescu eh, what's he gonna do, dance all night ? [23:39]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: did the 20k thing ever actually happen ? [23:43]
mircea_popescu naw lol [23:43]
mircea_popescu nor did any of the guys end up in prison [23:43]
mircea_popescu it is the fate of the intellectual to discuss things that shall never be. [23:43]
asciilifeform the 'living wage' thing is much closer to things that actually happen, because pumping staight from treasury to rentiers (who jack prices immediately on anything subsidized) is apparently a-ok [23:44]
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asciilifeform (see the u.s. 'college racket' etc) [23:44]
mircea_popescu you gotta understand, you go to jail in romania for being a socialist. [23:44]
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asciilifeform anyone actually sitting for this at the moment ? [23:45]
mircea_popescu well, they released adrian nastase [23:45]
mircea_popescu but plenty in yes. [23:45]
mircea_popescu (adrian nastase ~= nancy pelosi) [23:45]
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asciilifeform plenty in 'for socialism' ? [23:47]
asciilifeform how's that work - what did they actually -do- [23:47]
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mircea_popescu be part of the red party. [23:47]
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decimation re: living wage < in the us, if you sum up everyone on section 8 rent subsidy, medicaid, medicare, social security, mortgage deduction and then us mil, us civil service, you probably have swedish level 'welfare' [23:48]
mircea_popescu college aid ? [23:49]
decimation if I were president, the first order I would make would be to released the list of everyone who receives money from the list above [23:49]
asciilifeform decimation: in general there's nothing secret about who they are - you can mostly tell by street address [23:50]
decimation asciilifeform: if you drill, you find that the bureaucracy that disburses these payments is extremely jealous about releasing exact details [23:50]
decimation for obvious reasons [23:50]
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decimation in fact, it's illegal for a real estate agent in the us to tell you how many welfare cases live on a street [23:53]
decimation [23:53]
assbot Real Estate Agent - Fair Housing Act Violation ... ( ) [23:53]
BingoBoingo decimation: Part of the obstacle is there's no unified list [23:54]
decimation BingoBoingo: this is no accident [23:54]
BingoBoingo decimation: I'm not so sure [23:54]
BingoBoingo Could be incompetence [23:54]
decimation do the checks arrive monthly? are the ebt cards filled? [23:55]
decimation someone has a list of accounts [23:55]
decimation if pressed, I'm sure the bureaucracy would bleat that it needs to protect the 'privacy' of the recipient [23:56]
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BingoBoingo decimation: The problem is separation [23:59]
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BingoBoingo There's no master list [23:59]
BingoBoingo Shit is compartmented to hell [23:59]
decimation some of the programs mentioned above are run by the states [23:59]
decimation turns out arizona is on my program: [23:59]
assbot Panel OKs measure to release welfare recipients' names ... ( ) [23:59]
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