Forum logs for 22 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BTC_Bear Einstein = Colbert * Moby^2 [00:00]
MBS wait [00:00]
MBS you mean you people here dont block ads? [00:00]
LordCanti wat [00:00]
EvanR helo: einstein fallacy [00:00]
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EvanR statement is true because einstein allegedly said it [00:00]
benjamindees luke-jr, do you get a highlight for tonal? [00:01]
helo i was just attributing something i believe to be true to the first person i'm aware of that said it :) [00:01]
LordCanti the statement was about WW3 and WW4 [00:01]
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EvanR in the year 9995 [00:02]
LordCanti I don't know weapons WW3 will be fought with but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones [00:02]
MBS I dont know what weapons WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with lasers and charged particle cannons [00:02]
LordCanti against cylons [00:03]
EvanR well einstein was right about half of that [00:03]
helo I dont know what weapons WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with dongs and riding crops [00:03]
BTC_Bear I want the blonde cylon to take me out [00:03]
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EvanR fighting with your dong? [00:03]
MBS oh i think i had WW4 with your mom last night then [00:03]
imsaguy BTC_Bear: I second that [00:03]
MBS must have missed WW3 [00:03]
helo i didn't want to know that my mom has a dong :( [00:04]
EvanR im not sure what the big deal about doing your mom is [00:04]
helo you know who else isn't sure what the big deal is about doing your mom? [00:05]
MBS einstein? [00:05]
Joric did i miss something important [00:06]
Joric someone's mother has a dong? [00:06]
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luke-jr benjamindees: no [00:07]
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paulzag ;;getrating chwergy [00:09]
gribble User chwergy, created on Thu Mar 15 03:43:50 2012. Cumulative rating 6, from 6 total ratings. Received ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 7 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=chwergy Currently authenticated from hostmask chwergy!~chwergy@173.180.114.85 [00:09]
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chwergy Buying 4.5 BTC for 23.80 PPUSD ;) [00:10]
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paulzag ;;ident chwergy [00:11]
gribble Nick 'chwergy', with hostmask 'chwergy!~chwergy@173.180.114.85', is identified as user chwergy, with GPG key id 260E643A50883F46, and key fingerprint C94FF8B86A601283F4EC25C6260E643A50883F46. [00:11]
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rg wow [00:17]
rg somehow people are still submitting orders [00:17]
rg in BYC [00:17]
rg BTC [00:17]
rg but selecting PayPal as the payment [00:17]
rg this is so annoying [00:17]
jjjrmy-m rg: I love you [00:18]
jjjrmy-m but you never said if you lied the ad or not. :( [00:18]
jjjrmy-m so i hate you [00:18]
rg dude i didnt even look yet [00:18]
rg ive been busy all day [00:18]
jjjrmy-m okay, well I'm going out [00:19]
jjjrmy-m I'll ttyl [00:19]
jjjrmy-m Whiskey Dicks time :) [00:19]
EvanR haha [00:19]
EvanR place sounds awesome [00:19]
EvanR im going downstairs to oak wine bar [00:19]
rg i think grubles found his first rape victim, jjjrmy [00:19]
jjjrmy-m peace out [00:19]
jjjrmy-m rg: why, is he coming tonight? [00:20]
rg i dunno [00:20]
rg im not the bossof him [00:20]
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jjjrmy-m ...i thought you were [00:20]
rg i dont like the term boss [00:21]
rg or employee [00:21]
rg we're a team [00:21]
jjjrmy-m master? [00:21]
jjjrmy-m master and slave [00:21]
jjjrmy-m got it [00:21]
EvanR yall are in boston? [00:21]
rg what the fuck does yall mean [00:21]
jjjrmy-m nope [00:21]
jjjrmy-m okay [00:21]
jjjrmy-m you all [00:21]
EvanR my room mate is hot, nerdy, and moving to boston i think [00:21]
jjjrmy-m .ud yall [00:21]
rg EvanR: we're straight [00:21]
rg most of us [00:21]
EvanR shes also female [00:22]
EvanR and straight [00:22]
jjjrmy-m EvanR: I'm dtf [00:22]
jjjrmy-m gimme her info ;) [00:22]
EvanR dtf? [00:22]
jjjrmy-m down to fish [00:22]
EvanR lol [00:22]
jjjrmy-m how do you not know that [00:22]
rg im about to give up on this RAID [00:22]
rawrmage down to follow on twitter [00:22]
neofutur +1 with "i dont like the term boss or employee we're a team" <-- I even include my customers in the team ! [00:22]
rg the program seems fucked [00:22]
rg chinese people made it [00:22]
jjjrmy-m so chinese people make most of the shit you use [00:22]
EvanR jjjrmy-m: well youre not in boston so lol [00:22]
jjjrmy-m okay, bye [00:23]
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jjjrmy-m EvanR: I am now [00:23]
jjjrmy-m peace out though [00:23]
jjjrmy-m gotta go [00:23]
jjjrmy-m ttyl [00:23]
jjjrmy-m you can just Pm me her info ;) [00:23]
rg just go [00:23]
rg stop saying bye [00:23]
rg 22:19 okay, well I'm going out [00:23]
rg 22:19 peace out [00:23]
rg 22:22 okay, bye [00:23]
rg 22:23 gotta go [00:23]
rg 22:23 ttyl [00:23]
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chwergy ;;rate paulzag 1 Quick trade, BTC for PPUSD [00:24]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user paulzag has been recorded. [00:25]
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chwergy traded that PPUSD rg [00:25]
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rg werd [00:25]
paulzag ;;rate chwergy 1 sold him a few BTC for PPUSD [00:25]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user chwergy has been recorded. [00:25]
mod6 ;;view [00:27]
gribble #7335 Wed Mar 21 13:24:26 2012 mod6 BUY 9.5 BTC @ 50 USDi [00:27]
prodigal ;;gettrust Cory [00:27]
gribble Trust relationship from user prodigal to user Cory: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=prodigal&dest=Cory [00:27]
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prodigal ;;gettrust EvanR [00:28]
gribble Trust relationship from user prodigal to user EvanR: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=prodigal&dest=EvanR [00:28]
Cory prodigal: If you haven't rated anybody you won't have any trust for anybody. [00:28]
prodigal ;;getrust imsaguy [00:28]
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Cory Maybe you're looking for ;;getrating [00:28]
prodigal xD [00:28]
prodigal ty [00:28]
prodigal i was like what? [00:28]
prodigal nobody ever trades? o.0 [00:28]
EvanR they do, you just dont notice [00:29]
EvanR look around you [00:29]
EvanR the world is passing you by [00:29]
EvanR reach out and take what you want [00:29]
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EvanR the best time to do anything is right now [00:29]
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prodigal thats very deep [00:30]
EvanR i got plenty where that came from [00:30]
triptyl a vitamin company has managed to shrink a small pizza and a scoop of ice cream into a tiny pill [00:30]
bonks are there any fancy desktop dashboards for bitcoin trading? [00:30]
EvanR you havent invented it yet [00:31]
bonks wouldn't mind participating, but i dont have the domain knowledge [00:31]
EvanR look at clark moody for a while [00:32]
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neofutur prodigal: people trade everyday, /join #bitcoin-otc-ratings [00:34]
bonks noted [00:34]
prodigal ok ty [00:35]
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BTC_Bear prodigal: most of it you don't see or know about. But post offers and people will PM you or ask further questions. [00:37]
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bonks what would be top features in a desktop dashboard for bitcoins? [00:38]
bitcoinhero2 ;;ticker [00:38]
EvanR what happened to BTCTrader? [00:38]
prodigal ty bear, may post later. friend wants to watch bbc sherlock now <_< [00:38]
rg nothing [00:39]
rg hes been around [00:39]
bonks EvanR: oh, that looks nice [00:39]
EvanR bbc sherlock thats a series? [00:39]
neofutur ;;sen BTCTrader [00:40]
neofutur ;;seen BTCTrader [00:40]
gribble BTCTrader was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 5 days, 17 hours, 32 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: good luck [00:40]
neofutur not seen for 5 days [00:40]
rg he's rich now [00:41]
rg he doesnt care about us [00:41]
EvanR is he? [00:41]
Cusipzzz lol [00:41]
rg he sold bitjack [00:41]
* EvanR shorts civilization [00:41]
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* EvanR shorts life in the universe [00:42]
benjamindees long oil? [00:42]
EvanR long zen [00:44]
EvanR lol [00:44]
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rg i want to go to Jordan [00:45]
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ageis the hashemite kingdom [00:45]
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Cusipzzz rg: get a server there [00:46]
SteinerC Selling 2.81847091 BTC $14.10 [00:46]
rg /dev/md0 1.7T 310M 1.6T 1% /var [00:47]
rg FINALLY [00:47]
rg jesus [00:47]
rawrmage rg: is that in .nllnlnll [00:47]
rg yeah [00:47]
rg /dev/md0: [00:47]
rg Timing cached reads: 15822 MB in 2.00 seconds = 7919.83 MB/sec [00:47]
rg Timing buffered disk reads: 706 MB in 3.01 seconds = 234.36 MB/sec [00:47]
rg it was worth it [00:47]
rg now, lets see if we cant get her ready for vm's [00:49]
SteinerC What are you doing? [00:50]
SteinerC Lul [00:50]
Cusipzzz rg: is it leaseweb ? [00:50]
rg haha hell no [00:51]
rg heeeeeeel no [00:51]
Cusipzzz k, just checking lol [00:51]
rg this server supports Bitcoin businesses [00:53]
rg the data center actually accepts BTC [00:53]
Cusipzzz whoa [00:55]
rg yeah [00:55]
rg i figure we help them, they help us, the community flourishes [00:55]
bonks link? [00:56]
rg hm [00:56]
rg it would appear we've also been upgraded to gigabit [00:57]
rg for free ;) [00:57]
rg anyway bbl [00:58]
triptyl dude is now gigabpowered [00:59]
Cusipzzz TANSSAAFL [00:59]
BTC_Bear 4 D batteries eh? [01:00]
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bayum anyone want a photo of their choice turned into a painting for .5 to 2 btc? [01:07]
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triptyl http://govindtiwari.blogspot.in/ [01:08]
bonks bayum: samples? [01:09]
BTCHero ;;bc,tslb [01:09]
gribble Time since last block: 54 minutes and 11 seconds [01:09]
BTCHero wtf [01:09]
rawrmage wtf [01:10]
BTCHero everytime i owe someone bitcoins it takes forever to find a block [01:10]
MBS LOL what a shitty rewards thing [01:10]
MBS http://thegrandtheatre.com/reelrewards/reel-rewards.php [01:10]
MBS watch 15 movies...get a free popcorn [01:11]
bayum nobody cares [01:11]
BTCHero but if you watch 150 you get one free [01:11]
triptyl women be selling sex [01:12]
triptyl it's all a ruse [01:12]
rg okay rebooting! [01:12]
rg hopefully into a properly installed vm environment [01:12]
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rg okay [01:20]
rg we're live [01:20]
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bayum samples are coming [01:21]
bayum https://canv.as/p/pgy2n i can do other styles too. [01:21]
neofutur bayum: I d do it myself in 5 mins using gimp . . . [01:24]
neofutur it probably needs 5-10 clicks to do that [01:25]
rg cooltext.com is a site completely powered by gimp [01:25]
neofutur I love cooltext too, I recommend it on my pixelpage [01:25]
rg yea ive been using cooltext for years [01:26]
rg when im too lazy [01:26]
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triptyl this page has some neat fonts http://govindtiwari.blogspot.in/ [01:26]
rg ;;asks 5.01 [01:28]
gribble There are currently 34954.279 bitcoins offered at or under 5.01 USD, worth 172811.933732 USD in total. [01:28]
rg arg [01:28]
rg ;ticker [01:28]
rg ;;ticker [01:29]
gribble Best bid: 4.81969, Best ask: 4.8198, Bid-ask spread: 0.00011, Last trade: 4.8199, 24 hour volume: 47231, 24 hour low: 4.75, 24 hour high: 4.87 [01:29]
rg ;;asks 4.90 [01:29]
bayum it's not an effect, i do it by hand... [01:29]
gribble There are currently 7123.6969 bitcoins offered at or under 4.9 USD, worth 34722.4582545 USD in total. [01:29]
rg ;;asks 4.99 [01:29]
gribble There are currently 30702.94 bitcoins offered at or under 4.99 USD, worth 151560.929674 USD in total. [01:29]
rg ;;asks 4.95 [01:29]
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gribble There are currently 16579.006 bitcoins offered at or under 4.95 USD, worth 81321.7499043 USD in total. [01:29]
rg hmm [01:29]
rg 4.95 attainable [01:29]
neofutur triptyl: you already posted this link 10 mins ago, please stop spamming this [01:30]
triptyl it's not spam [01:30]
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rg when are people going to start peddling some useful things [01:30]
BTCHero like silver [01:31]
rg oh dear i have to integrate the new node with the management console [01:31]
rg i forgot about that [01:31]
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androSnake Does anyone here have a job for me and BTC as payment? [01:43]
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copumpkin androSnake: I'd expect that would depend on your skills. You might want to post on the forum about your skills and see if anyone bites. IRC is good but not for announcement-like things because it isn't persistent [01:44]
androSnake persistent ? [01:44]
androSnake the translator dont understand this [01:44]
androSnake other word for this please [01:45]
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androSnake ah ok [01:45]
androSnake but i dont like forums i hate forums [01:45]
copumpkin it doesn't stay around so people will miss it [01:45]
copumpkin well, lots of people read the forums [01:45]
copumpkin so you can hate them and get no business or you can post there and be more likely to get business [01:46]
androSnake i would never used forums [01:47]
androSnake NEVER EVER [01:47]
androSnake sry :< [01:47]
copumpkin don't apologize to me. I don't care [01:47]
copumpkin I was trying to help you [01:47]
androSnake ok man [01:47]
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androSnake copumpkin, do you think i can trust nelisky and his ninjas ? [01:48]
androSnake i want to know your opposition [01:48]
copumpkin I have no idea [01:48]
androSnake ok [01:48]
copumpkin I don't know him [01:48]
copumpkin (her) [01:49]
copumpkin (whatever else) [01:49]
androSnake ;;getrating nelisky [01:49]
androSnake [01:49]
androSnake User nelisky, created on Mon Nov 29 09:46:19 2010. Cumulative rating 51, from 29 total ratings. Received ratings: 29 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 29 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nelisky Currently not authenticated. [01:49]
androSnake i think hes a good man right ? [01:49]
copumpkin probably [01:49]
androSnake mhm [01:49]
androSnake and a other question [01:49]
androSnake which currency is the best to buy btc without cc and bankwires [01:50]
androSnake which curreny the most people accept ? [01:50]
androSnake which currency is very like ? [01:50]
copumpkin USD with moneypak, in the US [01:50]
copumpkin otherwise it's hard [01:50]
androSnake and in the EU [01:50]
androSnake i have only EUR [01:50]
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androSnake I am selling a Zippo, it has collector value and is no longer sold, someone has interest ? [01:53]
copumpkin can you do SEPA bank transfers? that's what a lot of europeans use around here [01:55]
copumpkin I think there's actually #bitcoin-otc-eu [01:55]
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androSnake copumpkin, im arleady in the channel [01:55]
WhipFred ;;guide [01:56]
androSnake i dont have a bank wire [01:56]
WhipFred don't seem to be anyone on the order page who is selling btc for pp here in the forum atm [02:01]
androSnake paypal lol [02:01]
androSnake i swear before i used paypal i would die! [02:01]
androSnake nelsky sells BTC for Paysafecard/Ukash [02:02]
androSnake and hes rate is absulutly ok [02:02]
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WhipFred that's great but i only have PP [02:02]
DeLorean719 hehe pp [02:02]
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splatster ;;getrating WhipFred [02:03]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [02:03]
WhipFred call me a noob but that's all i have : [02:03]
DeLorean719 WhipFred [02:03]
splatster WhipFred: Register first, then people might give it a glance. [02:03]
WhipFred just found out about this place so yeah no ratings/auth [02:03]
DeLorean719 I'll sell you btc for paypal if you let me pay you btc 6 months later [02:03]
splatster WhipFred: Register. Period. [02:04]
WhipFred i appreciate the offer but any wait is out of the question unfortunately [02:04]
WhipFred okay i will register [02:04]
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Cusipzzz androSnake: nelsky is legit [02:05]
WhipFred i do not see how to register on the site or with irc commands [02:05]
BTC_Bear ;;gpg [02:06]
gribble Here are the instructions for authenticating with the bot using GPG: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication [02:06]
androSnake Cusipzzz, what is legit ? [02:07]
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androSnake dont use slang man [02:07]
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androSnake -.- [02:07]
androSnake omg i hater slang man dont use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:07]
androSnake what the fuck is legit ? [02:07]
bruzum ;;ticker [02:07]
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smickles you know it's bad when nethack laggs out :/ [02:07]
copumpkin androSnake: stay calm [02:08]
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copumpkin androSnake: legit means legitimate [02:08]
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copumpkin which is used to mean that he is a good guy [02:08]
androSnake ok [02:08]
androSnake copumpkin, hes rate is ok right ? [02:08]
androSnake i think he make really good and correct business [02:09]
copumpkin his rating looks good, yeah [02:09]
androSnake very nice [02:09]
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pigeons are you jivin' yet androSnake? [02:13]
triptyl ne1 have any yttrium? [02:13]
androSnake YOU FUCKEP UP GUYS [02:14]
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androSnake DONT USE SLANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:14]
androSnake BIAATCH [02:14]
copumpkin androSnake: calm down [02:14]
androSnake DONT USE MOTHERFUCKING SLANG IN TALK WITH ME [02:14]
androSnake no [02:14]
androSnake they usae slang [02:14]
androSnake i cant holdit out [02:14]
androSnake dont use slang [02:14]
androSnake -.- [02:14]
copumpkin it's not insulting, it's not against the rules [02:14]
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copumpkin so if you don't like it, ignore them [02:14]
androSnake i fuck the rules [02:14]
copumpkin no you don't [02:14]
copumpkin where in europe are you, anyway? [02:15]
androSnake so pigeons sy it again to me withlout a slang [02:15]
androSnake say* [02:15]
mod6 holy crap androSnake, haha. [02:15]
androSnake no i cant holdit out [02:15]
androSnake they people use slang [02:15]
DeLorean719 "they people"...? [02:15]
pigeons just checking if you can dig it androSnake [02:15]
DeLorean719 how are you any better [02:15]
DeLorean719 lo [02:15]
DeLorean719 l [02:15]
androSnake its so hard for me to understand english i learn 24/7 englsih to unterstand here and the poeple always talk in slang to me [02:15]
copumpkin pigeons digs the slang [02:15]
androSnake this makes me crazy man [02:16]
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pigeons i hear ya androSnake, you'll pick it up. I was just teasing you, I didn't have anything to say [02:16]
androSnake what do you mean with dig ? [02:16]
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copumpkin dig = like [02:16]
triptyl i need some yttrium [02:16]
pigeons but if you want the skinny let us know [02:16]
copumpkin androSnake: but I'd try to learn slang, too, if I were you [02:16]
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androSnake first i must learn engslih man [02:17]
copumpkin if the goal is to communicate with people [02:17]
pigeons people don't use slang on purpose androSnake, they don't realize they are doing it [02:17]
androSnake then i can learn slang [02:17]
androSnake mmmm [02:17]
androSnake maybe thats true [02:17]
androSnake like i said "mom" right ? [02:17]
copumpkin whatever your native language is [02:17]
copumpkin I'm sure you use expressions that are not in textbooks [02:17]
androSnake yes [02:17]
androSnake sure [02:17]
copumpkin learners would not understand them, and it would be frustrating [02:18]
copumpkin but learners should just ask what they mean [02:18]
androSnake but in german channels , no international channels [02:18]
copumpkin not get pissed off that they're not in the book [02:18]
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neofutur androSnake: "legit" is used here eveeryday, slang or not you ll have to accept it ;) [02:18]
androSnake no i dont [02:18]
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androSnake i accept what i want [02:18]
rg not bad [02:18]
pigeons people here are glad to explain things, but they also don't want to get insulted for how they speak either [02:18]
copumpkin triptyl: no yttrium, sorry [02:18]
androSnake and that is a kind what i not accept [02:18]
copumpkin androSnake: you don't have to, but you can't force other people to speak the way you want them to. All you can do is ignore htem [02:19]
neofutur and the word is even referenced on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy [02:19]
mod6 maybe you need to take IRC packets through a slang filter. happy coding. [02:19]
androSnake mod6 when it exist i woukld be happy :) [02:19]
mod6 :) [02:19]
androSnake a slang filter :)) [02:19]
androSnake that is what i need [02:19]
BTC_Bear In the proper use of the vernacular, an individual learning linquistics should expect a certain amount of colloquialisms in the written words most commonly used on the internet. LIKE SLANG [02:19]
neofutur androSnake: but you re not yet the boss here to decide which words people can use or not here ;( [02:19]
androSnake sure neo [02:19]
androSnake but its my oposition that i acpet it or not [02:20]
copumpkin yep [02:20]
copumpkin just don't scream at people who do use it [02:20]
androSnake but ok, you are in the right people [02:20]
androSnake im failse [02:20]
androSnake sorry [02:20]
neofutur androSnake: and shouting ( all uppercase ) is also annoying . . . [02:20]
neofutur np ;) [02:20]
copumpkin androSnake: don't worry about it, just take it as a joke :) that's all pigeons was doing [02:20]
androSnake will in the future try to stay calm people ok :) [02:20]
Cusipzzz lucky i went to grab food, you would have been long gone andro :) [02:20]
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Cory androSnake: You were asked to leave #freenode, silenced in #defocus... Come on. [02:21]
neofutur Cusipzzz: i also went to grab food but came back before you ;) [02:21]
copumpkin lucky for him he has some friendly and tolerant ops around right now [02:21]
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Cusipzzz neofutur: haha [02:21]
copumpkin not mean evil ops like Cusipzzz [02:21]
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neofutur Cusipzzz: he even apologized ;) better try to be a freenode catalyst [02:22]
copumpkin Cusipzzz: how did you become so mean and evil? [02:22]
neofutur http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml [02:22]
androSnake cory, why they want, that i leave defocus forever? :( they peoiple in this channel like me as you can see [02:22]
Cusipzzz copumpkin: must be the evil effects of slang [02:22]
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androSnake cory can u please answer me [02:23]
neofutur ( must read for any op imho ) [02:23]
Cory androSnake: They'll probably unsilence you soon. [02:24]
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androSnake oh ok, i was thinking you mean the poeple want that i leave freenode forever ! [02:25]
androSnake i mus ttrain my english [02:25]
pigeons what is your first language androSnake? You use english pretty well [02:25]
copumpkin don't call vragnaroda [02:25]
copumpkin oh shit [02:25]
androSnake my motherlangugae is german [02:25]
androSnake pigeons my english are bad :((((((( ;( [02:26]
pigeons ok. well nice to meet you. you trade bitcoins? [02:26]
androSnake you dont know hou bad is my english in freenode [02:26]
androSnake äähm [02:26]
androSnake freenode=reallive [02:26]
androSnake sry [02:26]
androSnake false [02:26]
androSnake in RL im a sucker in english [02:26]
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androSnake and all poeple say i speak good english, but i cant belive it :( [02:26]
triptyl yo snake i heard you were back in town [02:26]
androSnake where is this guy 0.o ? [02:27]
androSnake triptyl, do you know me :) ? [02:27]
triptyl yack shmack [02:28]
androSnake ey you sucker [02:28]
androSnake what ive said before 1minute [02:28]
androSnake dont use motherfuckedrapedslang ok [02:28]
pigeons androSnake: splatster can teach you to look up slang with his bot [02:28]
splatster lol [02:29]
androSnake mom tranlsate [02:29]
androSnake no, pigeons first i must train my englsih basic knowledge [02:29]
androSnake then i can try to learn the slang [02:29]
triptyl boratical [02:29]
pigeons you can't put the genie back in the bottle [02:29]
splatster oh no, pebbles is gone. [02:29]
splatster I'm bringing him back to life. [02:30]
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androSnake pigeons, which genie lol ?? [02:30]
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coingenuity so what do you think neofutur [02:30]
coingenuity am i a catalyst [02:30]
coingenuity or an oxidizer? [02:30]
BTC_Bear Isn't fuck, slang for Fornication Under Consent of the King? Use Shag, instead. It would be funnier. [02:31]
coingenuity its not BTC_Bear [02:32]
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androSnake fake [02:32]
coingenuity " [02:32]
triptyl this will intro you to slang: http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=jive&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcoin.org [02:32]
splatster .o ud metric fuckton [02:32]
pebbles More properly, "Metric Fucktonne." The Fuckton is the Imperial standard for the measurement of fuckweight, while the Fucktonne, in contrast, constitutes the Metric measure of fuckmass. Generally u [02:32]
coingenuity "fornicatuon under consent of king" is a myth ;) [02:32]
androSnake ;;getrating BTC_Bear [02:32]
coingenuity fornication* [02:32]
pigeons the etymology is unclear [02:32]
androSnake oh she is it [02:32]
androSnake she is it [02:33]
coingenuity it comes from some latin/greek word.....focunt or something like that [02:33]
mircea_popescu who highlighted me ? [02:33]
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androSnake i highlighted you [02:33]
triptyl double indemnity [02:33]
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pigeons anybody here from eastend of london? [02:34]
coingenuity nope pigeons [02:34]
androSnake in london Poppers are legal o/ [02:34]
mircea_popescu sup androSnake ? [02:34]
neofutur coingenuity: i m no judge ;) just recommending ops to read http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml ;) [02:34]
coingenuity lol, i have before...thats why i asked the punny question ;) [02:34]
androSnake mircea_popescu, i want to sell my ass to you for BTC see ya in 1hour in the highest place at Eifeltower Prais [02:34]
androSnake ok :) ? [02:34]
androSnake 45,7467557 BTC / Hour [02:35]
mircea_popescu fascinating. [02:35]
coingenuity catalyst or oxidizer since oxidation is notoriously violent [02:35]
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triptyl androSnake is a smart guy [02:35]
neofutur coingenuity: at least I never seen you acting like . . . hum . . . i wont say his nick and hilight him [02:35]
androSnake :) [02:35]
coingenuity XD [02:35]
neofutur he would kill androsnake [02:35]
coingenuity yeah, i know [02:35]
androSnake which one would kill me [02:35]
coingenuity gravnardora [02:35]
androSnake did you poeple want to know what im writing to luke-jr :D ? [02:35]
neofutur androSnake: you ll meet him early enough . . . [02:36]
androSnake did you guys want to know ? [02:36]
triptyl tell us [02:36]
androSnake ok wait im seraching the query [02:36]
androSnake hahaha [02:36]
androSnake mom [02:36]
neofutur ( a very evil op ) [02:36]
BTC_Bear Enemy of the People nick, that one? [02:36]
pigeons his client will catch that spelling variation [02:36]
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coingenuity BTC_Bear: yeah [02:36]
coingenuity lawl [02:36]
Sublime_ Where do I buy some coins at guys? [02:36]
androSnake androSnake> you stupid idiot, I'm done with you (luke-jr query) [02:36]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.msg812656#msg812656 << recomended reading about how options work an' what can they do for you. [02:36]
androSnake the other logs was in his channel :( [02:36]
androSnake when any guy tell me his channel i can copy paste the logs [02:37]
splatster neofutur: The first four letters of his name wouldn't happen to autocorrect to drag, would they? [02:37]
androSnake very bad language to him :) [02:37]
pigeons Sublime_: right here, and check the ,,guide [02:37]
gribble Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc [02:37]
androSnake i said to hem "YOUR A MOTHERFUCKING BLASPHEMIC GUY LUKE" [02:37]
androSnake :DDD [02:37]
Sublime_ Okay id like to purchase some :D I have a moneypack [02:37]
androSnake thats the truth [02:37]
luke-jr anyone want to make bets on how long until androSnake is banned here? [02:37]
neofutur splatster: probably yes [02:37]
androSnake ! [02:37]
androSnake him* [02:37]
splatster luke-jr: Not long. [02:37]
coingenuity androSnake: tone it down a bit :/ you're quite verbose [02:37]
pigeons slang is evil but cussin' is cool, huh? [02:37]
BTC_Bear luke-jr: can I use slang to my advantage. [02:38]
neofutur luke-jr: i ll bet 0.001 btc for less than 24 hours [02:38]
androSnake i have luke-jr on igno he is a fucking bastard im done with him [02:38]
Sublime_ Ive got a $250 moneypack for bitcoins [02:38]
luke-jr neofutur: but that's MY bet… [02:38]
luke-jr Sublime_: I'll give ya 10 BTC for it [02:38]
androSnake i talk about illegal and he said to me "now i call the police to you" [02:38]
splatster It is unfortunate to see the amount of trolls who have taken to spamming this channel. [02:38]
androSnake he is so fucked up, he os no man of god [02:38]
coingenuity androSnake: this channel is the trading channel, not the "complain about people channel" [02:38]
androSnake ok [02:38]
androSnake sry [02:38]
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mod6 splatster: +1 [02:38]
androSnake im silence [02:38]
coingenuity it's alright, just try to participate with what everyone else is talking about a bit more instead of being pissed at luke ;) [02:39]
androSnake mom translate [02:39]
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pigeons Sublime_: I don't take moneypak, but someone will. Are you registered with gribble? How many coins are you looking for? [02:39]
BTC_Bear It's not like the market is hoping yet. That's not scheduled until 3 AM [02:39]
splatster androSnake: Please try to combine your lines into fewer messages. Your last string of messages could have been a one liner, "Ok, sorry. I'll stop." [02:39]
mod6 ;;view [02:39]
gribble #7335 Wed Mar 21 13:24:26 2012 mod6 BUY 9.5 BTC @ 50 USDii [02:39]
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androSnake ok now i used cheaper lines [02:40]
androSnake äähm [02:40]
pigeons hey, no slang! [02:40]
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androSnake less* [02:40]
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androSnake what slang? [02:40]
coingenuity haha [02:40]
androSnake what slang biaatch? [02:40]
androSnake tell me [02:40]
luke-jr ljrbot: insult androSnake [02:40]
copumpkin ಠ_ಠ [02:40]
eurocashbtc ;;guide [02:40]
androSnake i have big problems to talk english and understand what people said in this channel, beacuse its english, but you guys can belive me, im working on it ! [02:41]
androSnake because* [02:41]
splatster androSnake: Please stop trolling/spamming/whatever. I'm not an OP but I can tell you that you're approaching a line which you should not cross. [02:41]
androSnake what ive done ? [02:42]
ljrbot androSnake sucks. [02:42]
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androSnake you sucks baatch [02:42]
neofutur androSnake: i have the same problem with spanish, i m french living in Peru [02:42]
androSnake oh ok [02:42]
neofutur and most peruvians use 40% slang in any phrase [02:42]
androSnake then we can learn toghether :) [02:42]
pigeons why do people usually respond to a friendly warning with escalation? [02:42]
neofutur I understand everythin in newsparers and TV, but real hard on the road [02:42]
androSnake ok, when the used slang so im exploding [02:42]
androSnake sorry cant stop doing this! [02:43]
neofutur androSnake: but you _have_ to adapt and accept the reality [02:43]
androSnake i know [02:43]
androSnake but [02:43]
androSnake hm [02:43]
neofutur slang is part of the language and of people identity [02:43]
androSnake you have right neo [02:43]
androSnake ok [02:43]
androSnake your right [02:43]
androSnake im in false [02:43]
bruzum eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ [02:43]
bruzum ¨hey [02:43]
pigeons your english is fine androSnake, and if you think you missed something important because of slang, you can ask, but the truth is no one ever says anything important here [02:43]
bruzum hey. [02:43]
splatster Stop making your messages span so many lines. [02:43]
splatster androSnake: ^ [02:43]
androSnake try to accept the slang and just nice to ask if I do not understand something, I think that's gone the better, for all [02:44]
Sublime_ I have a $250 MP for 45 btc is anyone interested? [02:44]
neofutur androSnake: you just need to ask for help, ask whats the meaning of this word, us google, wikipedia [02:44]
neofutur onlineslangdictionary.com is cool too [02:44]
androSnake yes [02:44]
androSnake i only use google [02:44]
neofutur you ll just learn even more, and have a better english [02:44]
androSnake mhm [02:44]
androSnake but google is ok for me [02:44]
coingenuity androSnake: one of the best recommendations i can make for slang is urban dictionary [02:44]
coingenuity you can use the command ;;ud "some slang" via private message to check it with gribble, as well [02:45]
androSnake I USED ONLY GOOGLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:45]
androSnake no other [02:45]
neofutur yup http://www.urbandictionary.com/ is great too [02:45]
pigeons don't be a spaz, man [02:45]
androSnake yes, but i use only google! [02:45]
splatster coingenuity: Ahem, ".o ud " [02:45]
coingenuity right, which is why i am giving you a good alternative [02:45]
pigeons .o ud spaz [02:45]
androSnake ok thank you [02:45]
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androSnake but i use only google [02:45]
mircea_popescu check out fify, 1st entry in ud. [02:45]
mircea_popescu possibly the most insane paragraph i ever read. [02:45]
pebbles A term for a person who acts mentally retarded. Also may apply to people who may or may not have mental retardation and cannot control themselves or act normally. Also can apply to people who are ner [02:46]
bruzum ;;ticker [02:46]
coingenuity splatster: mod UD function to only display complete sentences ftw [02:46]
coingenuity :P [02:46]
DeLorean719 what's another general tracker other than demonoid/tpb [02:46]
androSnake my life is so fucked up [02:47]
androSnake omg ;( [02:47]
splatster coingenuity: .o ud is a webservice and is thus, not easily modifiable without getting some admin to make the changes. [02:47]
eurocashbtc hi everyone! [02:47]
androSnake hm false channel for this [02:47]
splatster androSnake: Combine your messages, please. [02:47]
coingenuity count chars in string delineated by period, grab index[last] off that string [02:47]
coingenuity if its not a period, drop the string [02:47]
coingenuity otherwise, push to message stack [02:47]
coingenuity you can postprocess that pretty easily in py :) [02:48]
pigeons hi eurocashbtc [02:48]
splatster androSnake just PMed me: (sorry for the copy/paste) [02:48]
splatster [6:47 PM] fuck you asshole [02:48]
splatster [6:48 PM] let me in silence [02:48]
splatster [6:48 PM] calla admin when u have a problem ok [02:48]
splatster [6:48 PM] so shut the fuck up man [02:48]
coingenuity i think you can regexp it too fairly easily, but im not a ninja regexer [02:48]
coingenuity androSnake: don't be rude to people like that [02:49]
neofutur splatster: I wont bother for 4 lines copy paste but beeware some other ops dont like it [02:49]
splatster Not very nice of you, androSnake. I asked nicely, even using please, yet you responded in a very angry tone. [02:49]
coingenuity splatster: let me know if he harasses you in PM again [02:49]
mircea_popescu your ignore's broken splatster ? [02:50]
coingenuity androSnake: don't do things like that, or an admin WILL get called and you will get removed [02:50]
androSnake let me in silnce splatster [02:50]
neofutur I also highly recommend /ignore [02:50]
androSnake you mean permanent ban ? [02:50]
coingenuity yes, that's what i mean. [02:50]
androSnake i dont want permban [02:50]
coingenuity so behave. [02:50]
androSnake really not! [02:50]
androSnake ok [02:50]
coingenuity and iI'm serious this time. [02:50]
neofutur +1 with coingenuity [02:51]
androSnake ok sorry for all [02:51]
androSnake no im killing me [02:51]
androSnake ciao [02:51]
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coingenuity androSnake: we don't mind participation, just don't harass people. [02:51]
coingenuity treat this place different from the rest of the internet, and pretend it is a face-to-face interaction where you have to act like a normal person instead of an internet person [02:52]
gmaxwell :) [02:52]
splatster coingenuity: +1,000 [02:52]
gmaxwell http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 [02:53]
BTC_Bear Ok, you have the first round of beers, I'll get the second. [02:53]
coingenuity lol BTC_Bear [02:53]
coingenuity oh btw random thought for you fellows [02:54]
coingenuity any other -otc DefCon attendees this year? [02:54]
mod6 haha, thats awesome. [02:54]
mod6 i'll be there coingenuity [02:54]
coingenuity oh, nice mod6 [02:54]
coingenuity speaker or just badnged? [02:54]
coingenuity badged* [02:54]
mod6 me and KK were gonna do something last year. I think i'm just gonna get there this time. work got in the way last year. [02:55]
* rg glares at mod6 [02:55]
mod6 He actually got a invite to speak, but we flaked out :/ [02:55]
coingenuity same here :) i was busy coding coinabul, couldn't take any time off sadly [02:55]
rg you think you're better than me? [02:55]
mod6 me? [02:55]
rg :) [02:55]
mod6 Heh :) [02:56]
mod6 There is a big CTF event this year. that should be awesome. [02:56]
coingenuity there's gonna be a few of us @ 'con mod6 we'll have to have a beer and insist on paying with bitcoins as a group :) [02:56]
mod6 Oh for sure. [02:56]
coingenuity yeah, i heard CTF last year was really badass and massive [02:57]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/QZI5h.jpg check this out :D [02:57]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: is that stone money on a rope? [02:58]
mod6 Doughnut. [02:58]
gmaxwell then what does it have to do with bitcoin? [02:58]
mod6 :D [02:58]
mircea_popescu donut [02:58]
gmaxwell ;) [02:58]
mircea_popescu lmao omg, this is the bitcoin-otc ? [02:58]
coingenuity WTS 1 donut on a rope, 10btc [02:59]
mod6 Anyway, yeah, DC20 hopefully will be cool. I used to go every year when it was at the alexis park. but when they started having at the Riviera it wasn't as nice. Hope the Rio is better!! [02:59]
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mircea_popescu coingenuity any bytemarks or anything ? [02:59]
Raccoon For your reference when buying and selling. [02:59]
Raccoon http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90zigDailyztgOzbgDzm1g10zm2g25zi1gBBWzi2gPPOzi3gPVOzvzl [02:59]
coingenuity oh, it'll be nice regardless since it's a working vacation...gives me a chance to switch things up a little bit [03:00]
coingenuity and nope mircea_popescu it's a virgin donut [03:00]
mircea_popescu still, 10btc sounds a little stiff... [03:00]
coingenuity lol [03:01]
coingenuity its a very pretty donut [03:01]
luke-jr coingenuity: PIN code? [03:01]
coingenuity worth at least 15btc [03:01]
neofutur Raccoon: a small present for you : http://gw.gd/raccoon [03:01]
neofutur ( good settings thanks, I ll use it) [03:01]
coingenuity luke-jr to what lmao [03:01]
luke-jr coingenuity: try again [03:02]
luke-jr coingenuity: PIN code? [03:02]
coingenuity luke-jr: 1337 [03:02]
Raccoon neofutur: any suggestions on the bottom 3 graphs would be great. i don't fully understand most of the options. [03:02]
luke-jr coingenuity: Would you like to make a Deal? [03:02]
neofutur direct link to image ( lighter ) : http://gw.gd/raccoon2 [03:02]
vragnaroda [00:25] <+ copumpkin> | don't call vragnaroda <-- lol [03:02]
coingenuity luke-jr: y [03:02]
vragnaroda [00:26] < androSnake> | pigeons my english are bad :((((((( ;( <-- There's ##english here on freenode to help you! [03:02]
luke-jr coingenuity: Would you like to choose an opponent? [03:02]
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coingenuity luke-jr: n [03:02]
androSnake let me in slince [03:03]
androSnake -.- [03:03]
coingenuity nah you're OK androSnake [03:03]
luke-jr coingenuity: your opponent is rg. have a nice day. [03:03]
coingenuity lol luke-jr` [03:03]
neofutur Raccoon: i always use the indicators I ve setup on http://gw.gd/bcgraph2 [03:03]
neofutur MACD, RSI, oscillator [03:04]
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neofutur but its more oriented for daytrading [03:04]
coingenuity nice neofutur [03:04]
coingenuity what's your MACD EMA degredation rate? [03:04]
Raccoon would be nice if they were explained on the site with (?) links [03:04]
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neofutur 10,25 iirc [03:06]
neofutur but i m not sure those a are good values [03:06]
neofutur no enough of a professional yet ;( [03:06]
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coingenuity yeah, those are sort of on the low end [03:06]
coingenuity but probably do OK :) [03:06]
neofutur other seettings I use : http://gw.gd/bczoom and http://gw.gd/bczoom15m [03:07]
coingenuity the beauty in the MACD is the signal off of that EMA anyway, so the math still 'checks out' [03:07]
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coingenuity i use a custom MACD type system in case you hadnt gathered as much lawl [03:08]
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coingenuity last action was buying a couple hundred coins @ 4.76 [03:08]
neofutur same but at 4.70 after liquidating a short at 5.1 [03:10]
rg ;;ticker [03:10]
gribble Best bid: 4.82136, Best ask: 4.83881, Bid-ask spread: 0.01745, Last trade: 4.83911, 24 hour volume: 47461, 24 hour low: 4.75, 24 hour high: 4.87 [03:10]
neofutur but not hundreds ;( I already lost most of my btc investing and am now playing with a few dozens of bitcoins ;( [03:10]
coingenuity :( [03:10]
neofutur s/investing/investment [03:11]
rg neofutur: you shoulda put them into a sure thing [03:11]
coingenuity i only fed mine a small portion of my total coins, im not that ballsy yet ;) [03:11]
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neofutur rg: ah lets say I already agreed i was ok to loose it when I began toe play . . .was not the money for food [03:11]
neofutur I could look like a speculator, but I m mostly here to learn and play [03:12]
paulzag ;;tz dallas [03:12]
gribble Thu Mar 22 01:12:57 2012 UTC | 8:12pm Wednesday (CDT) - Time in Dallas, TX [03:12]
neofutur even if I wouldnt be sad if I made thousands of dollars of profits ;) [03:13]
neofutur hum cool command [03:13]
neofutur ;;tz Paris [03:13]
gribble Thu Mar 22 01:13:30 2012 UTC | 2:13am Thursday (CET) - Time in Paris, France [03:13]
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dwon ;;rate rg 1 one good trade [03:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user rg has been recorded. [03:17]
rg ;;rated dwon [03:17]
gribble You have not yet rated user dwon [03:17]
rg ;;rate dwon 1 helped secure the future of BitVPS [03:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dwon has been recorded. [03:17]
rg ;;rate dwon 1 helped secure the future of BitVPS.COM [03:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dwon has changed from 1 to 1. [03:17]
dwon glad I could help :) [03:17]
rg yeah i spammed your rating [03:17]
rg :) [03:17]
dwon lol [03:18]
rg ;;rated jine [03:22]
gribble You have not yet rated user jine [03:22]
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rg ;;rate jine 1 made a good suggestion to me and has paid me out over 1k btc over the course of my btc career [03:22]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jine has been recorded. [03:22]
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mircea_popescu securing teh future eh ? [03:25]
rg he bought our new server [03:26]
rg now all we have to do is put the other EU vps companies out of business [03:26]
rg and we're gold [03:26]
rg or let them put themselves out of business [03:27]
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copumpkin rg: oh, so he gave you the loan? [03:29]
Cusipzzz nice [03:29]
rg copumpkin: no [03:29]
rg im saving up for that on my own now [03:29]
copumpkin ah, okay [03:29]
rg but we got a euro vm node [03:29]
* neofutur gives a good karma point to dwon [03:29]
rory1 Hi how many comfirmations do you need to recive bitcoins to your wallet ? please help [03:30]
rg so now noone has an excuse to not give us their btc's [03:30]
rg except Bigpiggy, we didnt get him an asian server yet [03:30]
luke-jr rg: you're in a Deal with coingenuity. [03:30]
rg i am? [03:30]
coingenuity lol [03:30]
luke-jr rg: yes. [03:30]
coingenuity yeah rg [03:30]
dwon rory1: 6, I believe [03:30]
luke-jr rg: good luck on an Australian node. [03:30]
rg luke-jr: too expensive [03:30]
coingenuity you dont remember selling me bitcoin vps? [03:30]
luke-jr rg: Aussie is expensive as *#%#)] [03:31]
neofutur rory1: you first need to let the client run during 12-18 hours [03:31]
mircea_popescu rory1 you usually see them instantly but not added to total till 6 [03:31]
rg better to just buy an asian box [03:31]
neofutur to download the full blockchain [03:31]
rg coingenuity: nope [03:31]
luke-jr rg: QUICK! Mezzoflation! [03:31]
neofutur which will need 1.5 GB free diskspace [03:31]
rg but you must understand [03:31]
coingenuity ah, i bought it for 5btc [03:31]
rg i talk to like 20 people a day about vps's [03:31]
rg and maybe 1 or 2 of them sign up [03:31]
neofutur you wont see the coins before your client have all the blockchain [03:31]
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mircea_popescu so, anyone who wonders how to use options --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.msg812656#msg812656 [03:31]
rg 5 btc? [03:32]
rg if youre paying that much [03:32]
rg you might as well ask for the upgrades [03:32]
neofutur http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120320/17474318177/icann-confirms-that-its-going-to-make-it-easier-governments-to-seize-domains-around-globe.shtml [03:32]
rory1 mircea_popescu i have waited for 2 hours and i have not even got it in my wallet yet? [03:32]
neofutur a good news for namecoin ? [03:32]
rg since bitvps's creation, the plans have all increased in allocation [03:32]
rory1 is th [03:32]
rg i dont apply it by default, but if someone asks [03:33]
rg they get it [03:33]
rory1 [03:33]
rg for example, vps-b used to be 384mb, its 768mb now [03:33]
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triptyl supersized [03:33]
rg so if you're paying 5btc, you might as well get the max offered [03:33]
mircea_popescu rory1 depends if you have the full chain downloaded yet. if you are up to date then not really. [03:33]
rory1 http://blockchain.info/address/16tbEKEUuXxniz1dypGRpV1kByw6ypJMq9 [03:33]
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Cusipzzz rg: what are the rates on the new euro box...and *cough*discount*cough* O.o [03:34]
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neofutur rory1: so you already have 16 confirmations but you re not seeing the coins in your client ? i understand ? [03:34]
rory1 correct [03:34]
Cusipzzz rory1: what is your block count? [03:34]
neofutur ok check your blocknumber in your client [03:35]
neofutur cf what I said earlier [03:35]
rg Cusipzzz: you know the discount [03:35]
rg the prices are the same for every box [03:35]
luke-jr rory1: let's get through this quickly as you can, please [03:35]
neofutur the first time you lauch the client you have to wait 12-18 hours to download the full blockchain [03:35]
Cusipzzz rg: cool..i'm in whenever you get it setup [03:35]
neofutur and be sure you have 2 Gb free diskspace for it [03:35]
rg ok [03:36]
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neofutur rory1: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Using_Bitcoin#Starting_the_client_and_connecting_to_the_network [03:36]
DBordello btcpak.com no longer references MoneyPak or Greendot in any way :/ [03:36]
neofutur check the screenshots [03:36]
rory1 it says last recviced block was generated 20 days ago [03:37]
rory1 ? [03:37]
neofutur but dont worry, you just have to wait, the transaction is legit and have 16 confirmation already [03:37]
luke-jr rory1: that's why [03:37]
neofutur you ll get them [03:37]
luke-jr rory1: what version? [03:37]
rory1 i dont know [03:38]
neofutur the blockcount is not increasing ? whats the number shown ? [03:38]
mircea_popescu DBordello were there chargeback issues ? [03:39]
DBordello mircea_popescu, copyright/trademark notification [03:39]
rory1 169164 [03:39]
mircea_popescu aha. [03:39]
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mircea_popescu rory1 you're way behind. restart client [03:39]
neofutur you can see the latest blocknumber on http://bitcoinwatch.com/ [03:39]
neofutur you have to reach 172,267 [03:40]
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neofutur rory1: also check you dont have a fireewall or router blocking bitcoin [03:40]
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neofutur and yes restart the client, could help [03:40]
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rory1 i did a system restore on my computer would that effect it? [03:40]
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neofutur if it erestored a firewall blocking bitcoin port yes [03:41]
neofutur Port 8333 should be opened [03:41]
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neofutur you are froxen at block number 169164 ? [03:42]
neofutur number is not increasing ? and the number of connections ? [03:42]
rory1 yes frozen [03:42]
rg feel free to download the blockchain manually [03:42]
rg from http://us1.bitvps.com/blockchain/ [03:42]
neofutur mircea_popescu: I ll bookmark you post, thanks to make all this clear, with examples, case studies . . . [03:43]
mircea_popescu neofutur ;_ [03:43]
mircea_popescu ;) even [03:43]
luke-jr O.O [03:43]
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androSnake hey people i have a question [03:45]
androSnake about BTC [03:45]
triptyl shoot [03:45]
androSnake what means shoot ? [03:45]
Cory Ask. :) [03:45]
androSnake this is slang [03:45]
androSnake please tell me what you mean [03:45]
androSnake cory @ me ? [03:46]
neofutur androSnake: dont ask to ask, just ask [03:46]
triptyl whats your native language? [03:46]
neofutur thats what it means [03:46]
Cory andrew12: Yup. "Shoot" meant "ask" in that situation. [03:46]
androSnake neofuture shut the fuck up this is my way to ask you cant chnage my mind, dont try it you will loose! [03:46]
androSnake ! [03:46]
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dwon Cory: Using xchat? [03:46]
BTC_Bear I will bet 1 btc 24h [03:46]
BTC_Bear common [03:46]
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Cory dwon: mIRC, why? Are my quotation marks funny? [03:47]
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dwon Cory: No, your autocomplete. [03:47]
rory1 thanks guys but will it get there in the end? [03:47]
neofutur _you_ will loose androSnake [03:47]
stochastic_ haha [03:47]
dwon so loose androSnake fell off the channel [03:47]
triptyl "shoot" means "go ahead" [03:47]
androSnake ok [03:47]
Cory dwon: Oh, whoops! No two nicks should ever share the first two, let alone four characters! [03:47]
androSnake BTC_Bear i bet with you 10BTC that i will this week not alive! [03:48]
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rg so Cusi just reminded me of something [03:48]
rory1 thanks guys for all your help [03:48]
rg about our ordering form [03:48]
rg and.. [03:48]
neofutur I hope androSnake is less suicidal IRL than IRC [03:49]
rg since ive blocked tor from signing up theres been a steep decrease in asshole customers trying to defraud my company [03:49]
Cory androSnake: What's your questions about Bitcoin? [03:49]
rg go figure [03:49]
BTC_Bear androSnake: Please rephrase that. [03:49]
neofutur rg: probably a good decision ;) [03:49]
funziggy ;;ticker [03:50]
androSnake neofutur your right, im thinking 70% off the day on suicide, and maybe it will be happend but id ont kill me or like that, i take an overdose or something, that is the way i want t odie [03:50]
rg thats why i hate people, they take something like tor and make it something evil [03:50]
rg just like bitcoin [03:50]
rg something that could've been wonderful and helped millions of people is villified into something for criminals and lowlives [03:50]
androSnake rg agree that will destroy TOR [03:50]
androSnake Tor is not fol illegal activity, it is for countrys like china and japan who is youtube censored! [03:50]
triptyl rg: how can they defraud you with coins? [03:51]
neofutur androSnake: I also thought of commiting suicide most days of my life, but its just a shameful easy way out, you re worth more than than [03:51]
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draco49 sup all [03:51]
stochastic_ rg: get use to it, anything that can help people get back power from the oligarchy will be vilified [03:51]
androSnake i understnad the half [03:51]
androSnake mom i must translate [03:51]
androSnake bhoa im so tired, since 46h awake [03:51]
androSnake :tired: [03:51]
mircea_popescu lowives ? [03:51]
BTC_Bear If you own a stapler with that type of mood, someone will pay you. Sick f#$ks. [03:52]
Cory androSnake: What do you mean when you type "mom"? [03:52]
mircea_popescu draco49 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.msg812656#msg812656 :p [03:52]
androSnake cory in german IRC all poeple said "mom", they mean "one moment please" its a german slang [03:52]
Cory Cool. :) [03:52]
mircea_popescu he's right on that. [03:52]
androSnake :) [03:52]
triptyl ein mome' [03:52]
androSnake yes [03:52]
androSnake einen moment bitte [03:53]
androSnake :) [03:53]
draco49 mircea_popescu, :) I saw that earlier... [03:53]
mircea_popescu aha! [03:53]
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mircea_popescu so this chick has been on us time for >3 weeks now. wakes at 2-3pm, goes to bed 5am. [03:53]
mircea_popescu should i be worried ? [03:53]
draco49 no [03:54]
draco49 Sounds pretty normal to me [03:54]
mircea_popescu kinda weird to go to nightclubs for breakfast... [03:54]
draco49 I'm on a 4pm-12pm schedule. [03:55]
androSnake neofuture i have not the disicplin to kill me, i have alived an opiat overdose, it shows me how beatiful is life, i really think its a near-death experience, i was stoped like 4mins respiration, and then i wake up and have big big fear, a neardeath-expirience, after that you will have big big fear like a 1day panic attack, and then jesus shows you hou beautiful life is, and this enlightenment i destroyd becuase 3 days after im talking a [03:57]
androSnake gain drugs, a full drunk (much alcohol) and benzos (valium), now im on the point before the near death expirnce, but it shows me some incrediblöe, i dont remember so good, but i swear by my life, it shows me something incredible! [03:57]
stochastic_ if it is a gentleman's club instead of a nightclub that would not be abnormal. some of them have the best food [03:57]
DBordello andrew12, What is your bitcoin question? [03:57]
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Cory DBordello: Haha! You did it too! [03:57]
DBordello Cory, doh! [03:58]
draco49 androSnake, That was a horrible assault on the English language. [03:58]
androSnake man [03:58]
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androSnake do you dont know me [03:58]
DBordello androSnake, What is your Bitcoin question? [03:58]
androSnake i used translator and my brain [03:58]
stochastic_ androSnake = Jason Russell [03:58]
androSnake darco49 i said 100 times im onm the way to learn english!!!! and you pissed me on! WTF ? [03:59]
androSnake what ive done ;( ? [03:59]
draco49 jeez no... calm down dude. [03:59]
androSnake no [03:59]
neofutur androSnake: for sure alcohol+valium is a bad idea [03:59]
androSnake you calm down [03:59]
LordCanti draco49, why must you piss on everyone? [03:59]
draco49 damn! [03:59]
androSnake neufutur its the badest combo i ever had in my life [03:59]
neofutur androSnake: but its very offtoppic here, better move to a general chat channel [03:59]
vragnaroda neofutur: That depends on your goals. [03:59]
neofutur androSnake: I ll be happy to continue answering you on ##mtgox-chat [03:59]
androSnake draco49 you ass, what have i done you, llet the poeple in silnce and dont make troubles ok! [04:00]
androSnake ok neofutur [04:00]
androSnake mom [04:00]
draco49 lol whatever... [04:00]
neofutur and stop insulting people here grrr [04:00]
vragnaroda androSnake: Advocating that, though, or trading it on -otc is prohibited, though. [04:00]
androSnake ej man [04:00]
androSnake are u a admin [04:00]
androSnake ? [04:00]
neofutur ouch [04:01]
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vragnaroda I am an op. [04:01]
androSnake ok then fuck you, and let me do what i wnat, i discussion now with poeple and you destroy the conversation [04:01]
androSnake so calm down ok! [04:01]
androSnake man man man [04:01]
neofutur ( I wont oppose to ban ) [04:01]
LordCanti this is going well for all parties involved [04:01]
neofutur he been warned more than once [04:02]
androSnake no [04:02]
neofutur and kicked once already [04:02]
androSnake let me talk pleae [04:02]
androSnake i want to said [04:02]
vragnaroda androSnake: There's no need for language like that. [04:02]
DBordello androSnake, you are free to express your opinion. However, this is a bitcoin trading channel. Please take this discussion to another channel. #bitcoin-otc-ot is appropriate [04:02]
androSnake ok you cool ops [04:02]
androSnake have fun [04:02]
androSnake ciao [04:03]
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DBordello welp, that worked itself out [04:03]
gmaxwell ::nods:: [04:03]
mod6 thankfully. sick of reading that crap. [04:03]
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draco49 He was mean. [04:03]
stochastic_ i felt like i was reading the psychotic breakdown of a person [04:03]
neofutur drugged+alcool+ 46 hours awake . . . [04:03]
gmaxwell It's like someone figured out how to give their yipyip dog internet access... [04:03]
mod6 ha [04:04]
dwon mircea_popescu: (re: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745) "if I were to receive an email from the address that originally announced the subscription requiring that a part or all of the associated stocks be transferred to a new email-BTC address combo, I will update the records." [04:04]
dwon mircea_popescu: how are you going to avoid forged emails? [04:04]
dwon mircea_popescu: better at least do a confirmation, because the sender address of an email is ridiculously easy to forge [04:06]
dwon one could easily steal the proceeds from someone who happens to be on vacation [04:06]
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mircea_popescu dwon : how would the forger know what address to send from ? [04:09]
dwon mircea_popescu: Well, it shouldn't be that hard to guess if you know who the investors are. [04:10]
mircea_popescu specifically ? [04:10]
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dwon mircea_popescu: well, anyone can find out that my email address is dlitz@dlitz.net, for example, so if at one point, I mentioned something in here about the stock that I own, and another point (perhaps months later), I mention that I'm going out of town for the xmas holidays or something, that would be an opportunity [04:11]
rory1 mircea_popescu will i still get coins even if my blocks havent cauth up? [04:12]
mircea_popescu normally people would make something like f2995789cfc34000de52c60595146898@dlitz.net to use for this purpose and only this purpose tho [04:12]
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nanotube mircea_popescu: require gpg sigs :) [04:13]
mircea_popescu this is not required by me, but i don't see why anyone wouldn't. [04:13]
nanotube or at least a back-and-forth email confirmation. [04:13]
mircea_popescu and further, how'd anyone establish that you're an investor ? [04:13]
* neofutur trying to help androSnake on another channel [04:13]
mod6 You're a good one neofutur, but no good deed goes unpunished ;) [04:13]
mircea_popescu rory1 yes. [04:14]
dwon mircea_popescu: every mailserver that handles the address would have that address in its logs. Email addresses just aren't long-term secrets. [04:14]
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dwon mircea_popescu: I might brag about it [04:14]
mircea_popescu dwon and i should prevent you from bragging about it ? [04:14]
dwon mircea_popescu: or I might shamelessly try to encourage people to use your service [04:14]
rory1 mircea_popescu thank you [04:15]
dwon like rg. Everyone knows that rg runs BitVPS.com because he talks about it all the time [04:15]
BTC_Bear nanotube: for a gpg community you'd be surprised how few actually use it in email. Besides you of course. [04:15]
mircea_popescu right. but srsly, have you read the III.Security thing on the page ? [04:15]
rory1 an thanks to everyone else for helping me [04:15]
mircea_popescu people can be as secure as they want, i'm not going to mandate it tho. personal responsibility and all that. [04:15]
a5m0 selling: 5970, 4 new yubikeys, dual 2.8ghz xeon pc [04:16]
nanotube BTC_Bear: hehe yea... i never pass up an opportunity to send a gpg-encrypted email. and all my emails are signed by default (thanks tb + enigmail) :) [04:16]
dwon mircea_popescu: Yeah, I saw that. In reality, people will still use gmail or whatever. [04:16]
mircea_popescu dwon yea, but i mean... force people to be more secure than they want to ? [04:16]
mircea_popescu i am doing that on mpex currently, and virtually nobody uses it. [04:17]
mircea_popescu (am lookin at you nano!!1) [04:17]
nanotube mircea_popescu: lol [04:17]
mircea_popescu hehe [04:17]
mircea_popescu and btw, i have a good answer for the two step sign-and-encrypt design. [04:17]
dwon mircea_popescu: At a *bare minimum*, you need to do confirmations. At the time of the transaction, you generate some random secret, and send it to the recipient, along with a description of what's being authorized. [04:19]
Perlboy a5m0: how much you want for the 5970 & 4 yubi's? [04:19]
mircea_popescu not going to happen dwon. [04:19]
mircea_popescu useless overhead. [04:19]
dwon mircea_popescu: The recipient must reply back to you with that secret. This is what every mailing list software on the planet does. [04:19]
mircea_popescu and that scheme is actually LESS secure than the current one. [04:19]
a5m0 if you bought all 4 yubi's i could do $60 [04:20]
dwon mircea_popescu: The idea is to prove that someone can *receive* email at a particular address, rather than trying to prove that they can send email from that address (which anyone can do) [04:20]
Perlboy including 5970? [04:20]
rory1 thanks all [04:20]
rory1 gooo night [04:20]
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a5m0 Perlboy, lol the 5970 is worth like $400, so no [04:21]
Perlboy well that's why i was surprised :) [04:21]
mircea_popescu dwon : depends how your email server is setup [04:21]
mircea_popescu if you have permitted senders on then it's not the case anyone can do it, no. [04:21]
mircea_popescu if you don't, then you obviously don't care, and so neither do i. [04:22]
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mod6 ;;view [04:23]
androSnake cory can i tell now my question :) [04:23]
gribble #7336 Wed Mar 21 18:40:51 2012 mod6 BUY 9.0 BTC @ 50 USD (I have $50.00 USD MoneyPak, want to trade for BTC. Auth/Rating required on OTC. Thanks!) [04:23]
dwon mircea_popescu: Well, I tried to warn you in order to help you, but the more you say, the less confidence you're giving me. "This service is secure in the absolute sense of that term...there is simply nothing that can go wrong, by design." That's a load of egotistical crap. [04:23]
mod6 (dropped the price a bit...) [04:23]
mircea_popescu dwon i am kind of an egotistical type. [04:23]
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Cory androSnake: I'd love to hear it. [04:23]
mircea_popescu but on the other hand, i don't mind actually discussing the matter. not sure why you'd expect you're gonna tell me "do x" and i'm gonna do x, either. [04:24]
androSnake what [04:24]
androSnake ok then im leaving [04:24]
androSnake cory you ignorant [04:24]
dwon mircea_popescu: Well, so am I, and I still don't go around claiming I'm 100% secure while simultaneously ignoring vulnerabilities that people point out. [04:24]
androSnake guy [04:24]
Cory androSnake: Sorry. [04:24]
mircea_popescu you have not yet pointed out a vulnerability. [04:24]
androSnake what sorrsy [04:24]
androSnake sorry for what ? [04:24]
nanotube mircea_popescu: well, i'd have to agree with dwon, forging email from: header is trivial. that said, so is setting up a separate email address and keeping it secret. :) i guess it depends on whether you want to help users be secure or not. ;) [04:24]
Cory androSnake: I didn't mean to offend you. What's your question? [04:24]
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androSnake id love to here it = i dont love to here it = shut the fuck up ???? [04:25]
Cory I wasn't being sarcastic. [04:25]
nanotube androSnake: no, that means he wants to hear it. [04:25]
Cory I'd = I would [04:25]
mircea_popescu i am not about to send out mail as scatterback. [04:25]
androSnake oh sorry cory my false [04:25]
androSnake sory [04:25]
mircea_popescu anything of the kind is a braindead implementation of security circus. [04:25]
androSnake so my question: [04:25]
mircea_popescu and i mean, what am i verifying, that the person can send mail from the email they sent me mail in the first place to establish their holdings ? [04:26]
mircea_popescu as in, what, they lost the email meanwhile ? [04:27]
mircea_popescu tis ridiculous, this. [04:27]
androSnake can any poeple taking time for me and help me to learn me how to buy and sell BTC , it needs time, steps that ive done: i know how to register GPG by gribble, i have a gpg fingerprint, cury can u take time and help me, id would be very nice, when u help me maybe i send you some little bitcoins, it would be very nice from you! [04:27]
mod6 androSnake: Sure, most people would be happy to help. Vielleicht ein weniger Feindseligkeit wäre besser. [04:28]
nanotube mircea_popescu: no, you're verifying that the email header is not forged. you do know about how to forge from headers, right? [04:28]
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androSnake mod6 bad german! ;) [04:28]
mod6 translate.google.com [04:28]
mircea_popescu nanotube : DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; [04:28]
mircea_popescu d=gmail.com; s=20120113; [04:28]
mircea_popescu h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject [04:28]
mircea_popescu :from:to:content-type; [04:28]
androSnake haha [04:28]
mod6 :D [04:28]
mircea_popescu can you forge that ? [04:28]
* androSnake is lolling about that german [04:28]
androSnake hahahaha [04:28]
androSnake :DDDD [04:28]
androSnake EPIC!! [04:28]
Cory androSnake: I do not know much about buying BTC from Germany, so I doubt I would be much help. :( [04:28]
androSnake ok :( [04:28]
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nanotube mircea_popescu: do you actually check that, though? or do you just look at From: .... ? [04:29]
Lunaqus anyone selling namecoin? [04:29]
mircea_popescu i check in the case that the original domain had dkim [04:29]
neofutur ;;ident androSnake [04:29]
androSnake is this an us otc channel ? [04:29]
gribble Nick 'androSnake', with hostmask 'androSnake!~jhfkmuzj@unaffiliated/androsnake', is not identified. [04:29]
mircea_popescu if it did not then i do not. [04:29]
dwon mircea_popescu: DomainKeys isn't that widely used. [04:29]
mod6 I actually did a retranslate from ENG->GER GER->ENG and it seemed to make sense. I used to speak ger actually at one point. lol. [04:29]
neofutur ok, if you registered with gribble, now you need to ident [04:29]
androSnake lol [04:29]
mircea_popescu yes dwon, but i am not in thebusiness of forcing anyone to be secure [04:29]
androSnake ok neofutur i maek it now [04:29]
mircea_popescu i am in the business of providing means to be secure for those who care to. [04:29]
androSnake give me time please [04:29]
androSnake ok :) ? [04:30]
androSnake to learn it, i try it without help [04:30]
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neofutur np ;) take your time [04:30]
androSnake and without wiki [04:30]
dwon mircea_popescu: It's not a matter of forcing anyone to be secure, it's a matter of meeting the minimum standard of care for authenticating email. [04:30]
androSnake ok [04:30]
androSnake so now im shortly busy [04:30]
neofutur when you ident you proove you are the real yourself [04:30]
mircea_popescu dwon, that's poppycock, srsly. [04:30]
btcboy anyone on here btc -> interac emt [04:30]
neofutur you need to do it everytime you come here and want to trade bitcoin [04:30]
mircea_popescu its akin to complaining that gribble doesn't email you a secret to your gpg email address. [04:30]
androSnake neofutur i know i kno man ;) [04:31]
androSnake nw let me do it [04:31]
dwon mircea_popescu: seriously, it wouldn't be hard to find an expert witness who would testify that relying on a from header to validate an email is negligence. [04:31]
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btcboy ;;guidw [04:31]
mircea_popescu sigh. [04:31]
btcboy ;;guide [04:31]
dwon mircea_popescu: ask around; see what people say [04:31]
mircea_popescu it wouldn't be hard to find an "expert" witness to testify to anything. [04:31]
dwon mircea_popescu: By "wouldn't be hard" I mean you could basically pick one at random [04:31]
mircea_popescu i seem to recall the guy who testified that females don't ejaculate and thus ejaculate material is proof of rape, back in the 80s [04:32]
mircea_popescu but all this aside : mpex is scheduled to replace mpoe during the course of this year [04:32]
mircea_popescu so the entire email business is going to be outdated in a few months. [04:33]
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mircea_popescu but ftr, both yahoo and gmail use dkim, so i'd say that's about what, 2/3 of all email ? [04:34]
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LordCanti hasn't email been outdated for a decade? [04:36]
mircea_popescu according to mr knuth, almost 2 decades by now. [04:36]
dwon LordCanti: Yup. Google Wave is all the rage now. [04:36]
vragnaroda lol [04:36]
LordCanti hahaha [04:36]
Lunaqus anyone sselling namecoin? [04:36]
mircea_popescu o look who's there ? how goes vragnaroda ? [04:37]
a5m0 Lunaqus, i can sell you nmc [04:37]
vragnaroda vragnaroda goes well. [04:37]
mircea_popescu lol [04:37]
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paulzag ;;getrating [ident mod6] [04:41]
gribble User mod6, created on Mon Oct 10 13:26:38 2011. Cumulative rating 18, from 12 total ratings. Received ratings: 12 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 12 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mod6 Currently authenticated from hostmask mod6!5656abc3cd@rider.us [04:41]
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paulzag mod6 you having difficulty getting a taker on that deal still? [04:41]
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mod6 Yeah, wanna trade? [04:41]
btcboy ;;book [04:42]
neofutur ;;rated mod6 [04:42]
gribble You have not yet rated user mod6 [04:42]
neofutur mod6: you buy or sell ? I m always willing to strenghten the woT [04:42]
mod6 neofutur: just buy orders for the time being :) [04:43]
* neofutur also selling GNU/Linux, web, SEO services, and more ; check http://gw.gd/bcservices [04:43]
mod6 I get these MPs all the time now. [04:43]
phantomcircuit ne0futur, lol SEO [04:44]
paulzag ;;rated mod6 [04:44]
gribble You rated user mod6 on Mon Feb 27 16:32:36 2012, giving him a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: sold him BTC for MP twice quick & easy. [04:44]
paulzag yeah I'll do it [04:44]
mircea_popescu http://photobook.bitvps.com/ << guess who's got 42 views ? that's right. [04:44]
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rg what SEO stuff can you do neo [04:46]
rg we already have a PR4 [04:46]
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rg actually no, thats a lie, we have a pr3 [04:47]
neofutur I already told you 2 or 3 advices on #bitcoin-hosting [04:47]
mircea_popescu jesus. srsly rg, pr is dead as disco. [04:47]
rg i dont care [04:47]
neofutur first I sell a SEO audit, then I can give a full list of recommendations and propositions [04:47]
dwon For some reason, I imagined that vragnaroda was older. [04:47]
rg we're on the first page for google results [04:47]
neofutur ( and pagerank is not all ) [04:47]
rg thats good enough [04:47]
vragnaroda dwon: That picture's a couple years old. I don't have any recent pictures. [04:47]
rg considering the first two companies listed cease to exist [04:47]
vragnaroda (I think it was 2008.) [04:48]
mircea_popescu im with dwon on that, i figured vragnaroda to be late 50s originally. [04:48]
dwon That was my guess, too. [04:48]
vragnaroda lol [04:49]
vragnaroda If I live as long as my father did, I have 15 years left. [04:49]
mircea_popescu you sound old dood, don't try and date on the interwebz [04:49]
mircea_popescu you'll get riddled with gold diggers. [04:49]
pingdrive the whole world is riddled with gold diggers [04:50]
mircea_popescu well that aside :p [04:50]
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mircea_popescu anyway, im off to bed. plz not to break my 100% secure websites till i wake up kthx. [04:51]
pingdrive "i have gold in my pants can you dig it, honey?" [04:52]
dwon Holy crap, Google Images is getting good. When I search for myself, I don't just get myself, I get a bunch of pictures of people I've met. [04:53]
mircea_popescu i just imagegoogled my name [04:53]
mircea_popescu shot of model pissing naked in the snow in the first line [04:54]
mircea_popescu i guess that's about par for the course... [04:54]
jjjrmy coingenuity: Hey, are you still interested in the ads? [04:54]
pingdrive thats hot [04:54]
gmaxwell dwon: searching for me movestly gives you green tree pythons and steve jobs [04:54]
mircea_popescu and this on moderate search to boot. [04:54]
dwon mircea_popescu: Heh, nice. [04:56]
dwon gmaxwell: I don't see the Steve Jobs anywhere. [04:57]
mircea_popescu he's dead. [04:57]
word ninjas did it [04:57]
gmaxwell dwon: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&&q=gregory+maxwell [04:58]
dwon oh, there he is [04:58]
gmaxwell they must have tweaked the algorithims.. less jobs now. [04:58]
dwon I searched for greg maxwell [04:58]
gmaxwell (or perhaps its because he's dead) [04:58]
dirkdizzler i like the green snake [04:59]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc [13:11]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe [13:11]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Sun Feb 26 06:25:27 2012 [13:11]
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coingenuity mircea_popescu: [13:26]
mircea_popescu hm? [13:26]
coingenuity just breaking the silence [13:26]
coingenuity LO [13:26]
coingenuity :P* [13:26]
Chaang-Noi ill help BBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNGGGGGGGGGG!!! :) [13:26]
coingenuity lol [13:27]
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spawn- anyone wants to get my 5BTC @ $27 PPUSD :) [13:28]
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coingenuity ;;calc 27 / 5 [13:36]
coingenuity 12% [13:36]
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max999 btc <> pp [13:48]
paulzag max999: talk to me [13:48]
spawn- max999 talk to me also [13:48]
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Chaang-Noi so i had a mainboard go bad. how hard will it be to recover files on that hdd? like my GLBSE account? [14:20]
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benjamindees trivial? [14:22]
benjamindees barring some kind of spectacular error... [14:22]
mircea_popescu hdd should be fine, just plug it into a diff box. [14:24]
rg good morning [14:24]
mircea_popescu hallo [14:24]
rg so i had a mainboard go bad. how hard will it be to recover files on that hdd? like my GLBSE account? [14:24]
benjamindees and assuming you are capable of mounting it r/o [14:24]
rg easy [14:24]
rg and evne if the hd was fucked, easy [14:24]
Chaang-Noi okay good [14:25]
Chaang-Noi i assume when i get the same mb back ina few weeks i wont be able to just plug it back in and have it work right? [14:25]
benjamindees odds are you could [14:26]
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benjamindees but it's probably best to reinstall the OS and transfer files [14:27]
Chaang-Noi hmm, im not even sure how glbse is intigrated into my harddrive [14:27]
Chaang-Noi im not sure what i would need to move over :/ [14:27]
mircea_popescu isn't it just a pw ? [14:28]
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Chaang-Noi might be, i have an account number that is like 40 numbers long, dont know what that is [14:29]
Chaang-Noi if it is just a password how to i get it? [14:30]
rg well [14:30]
rg it depends [14:30]
rg are you using windoze? [14:30]
rg windoze freaks out if you plug in a different mobo [14:30]
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mircea_popescu chaang-noi you should prolly give mpex a try sometime. your account simply consists of your ability to gpg sign and encode. [14:33]
mcorlett ...and encrypt [14:33]
Chaang-Noi m-p you ran that options thing a while a go rigth? [14:34]
mcorlett It's still running, Chaang-Noi. [14:35]
mcorlett ;;topic [14:35]
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Chaang-Noi hmm.. well im very very caution to get involed in anything related to be honest. [14:35]
Chaang-Noi i saw the free beta testing and thought not for me. [14:36]
mircea_popescu umm. [14:39]
mircea_popescu which free beta testing do you mean ? [14:39]
mircea_popescu o hey mcorlett i forgot there's ;;topic :D [14:40]
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Chaang-Noi im not really interested. thanks anyway. [14:41]
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mircea_popescu each his own. [14:43]
mcorlett To each his own. [14:43]
rg http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qvgi5/the_cyber_bullying_has_gotten_to_the_point_where/ [14:45]
rg awww [14:45]
rg internet trolling doing something positive [14:45]
rg incase of tl;dr, this broad was getting bullied, school did nothing, posts on reddit, gives out schools email addresses. next day: police car at school taking evidence of bullying [14:46]
rg i dunno, i never got bullied [14:48]
spawn- anyone wants to get my 5BTC @ $25 PPUSD :) [14:49]
rg i got harassed as a freshmen, but that happens to everyone [14:49]
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mircea_popescu meh, i think girl-girl bully behaviour is essential for both rooting out the losers [14:53]
mircea_popescu and normal, healthy development of the cooler females. [14:53]
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rg i think kids these days just dont know how to deal with shit [14:55]
rg someone tells you to go kill yourself [14:55]
rg you dont go and kill yourself [14:56]
rg you start throwing feces at their house [14:56]
rg put in on the door handles [14:56]
paulzag cheer up emo grrl? [14:56]
rg shes good now [14:56]
rg the kid got in deep shit [14:56]
rg she had a ton of proof [14:56]
rg kid will probably get expelled [14:56]
rg and then theyll meet 15 years later and start ====D {{{}} [14:56]
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mircea_popescu why is her cunt assymetircal ? [14:58]
mircea_popescu which reminds me, the difference between missionary and doggy style ? {`} vs {,} [14:59]
imsaguy2 take it to a different channel, there's a reason there's a -otc-nsfw [14:59]
mcorlett :(){ :|:& }; : [15:00]
mcorlett (bonus points if you know what that actually is) [15:00]
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mircea_popescu you object to curly brackets imsaguy2 ? [15:05]
mircea_popescu and i have no ideea mroclette. [15:05]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Run it in your shell. [15:05]
mircea_popescu o no ty. [15:06]
mircea_popescu im not running things from irc in my shell. [15:06]
mcorlett Will you run it if I email it to you? [15:06]
mircea_popescu you prolly have a trojan in there or something. [15:06]
mcorlett Yes, the trojan is hiding in the ampersand. [15:06]
rg it looks like a forkbomb [15:06]
mircea_popescu see ? i knoed it [15:06]
mcorlett rg: Nice job [15:06]
mircea_popescu rg knoes too about pens and shit. [15:06]
rg interesting way to write it [15:07]
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rg ams1.vm.bitvps.com [15:08]
rg uNF [15:08]
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mcorlett It's the shortest I've seen. [15:08]
* rg so happy [15:08]
jcpham hugs [15:09]
jcpham vragnaroda laid out the banhammer in -nsfw [15:09]
jcpham just goes to show you can be banned there too [15:09]
imsaguy2 yeah [15:10]
mircea_popescu -nsfw is born dead. [15:10]
imsaguy2 asci art is of teh devil [15:10]
paulzag is it for that psycho astrowhatever? [15:10]
plato ;;book [15:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117920/Gay-marriage-human-right-European-ruling-torpedoes-Coalition-stance.html ahahaha [15:10]
mircea_popescu not a human right. [15:10]
mircea_popescu get ready for the butthurt. literally. [15:10]
mcorlett http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/20/article-2117920-034E83570000044D-422_233x423.jpg [15:11]
mcorlett dat nose [15:11]
rg she'd be moderately normal looking [15:12]
rg without that honker [15:12]
mircea_popescu she got that from a bird ? [15:12]
tbage lol [15:12]
tbage OH AN ARTICLE ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE [15:12]
tbage RELEVANT FACT: "DAT NOSE" [15:12]
mircea_popescu tbage don't hate on the nature of the internets. [15:12]
benjamindees oh good I'm glad you zeroed in on that pic as well... [15:13]
mcorlett u guys hatin' [15:14]
* rg points out how weird you all look [15:14]
benjamindees yeah but we were born this way... [15:14]
mircea_popescu i don't look weird [15:14]
tbage grr [15:14]
paulzag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb [15:14]
tbage wheres my pecunix exchanger [15:14]
mircea_popescu but i agree you all do. [15:14]
benjamindees this lizard person just put on her human mask wrong... [15:14]
paulzag lists that bomb [15:14]
tbage lol benjamindees [15:15]
mcorlett paulzag: I got it from Jaromil's site, but yeah... [15:15]
paulzag windows %0|%0 [15:15]
mircea_popescu http://cfrist.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/cfrgalerie11.jpg someone set them up the bomb ? [15:16]
plato ;;view 7303 [15:17]
plato #7303 Mon Mar 19 10:58:38 2012 luke-jr SELL 15.0 1.5 GH/s shares @ 1000 USD (Shares on a ButterFlyLabs Rig Box (50 GH/s total); one-time cost of $1kUSD, plus fair division of electric costs to run it) [15:17]
mcorlett ;;view 7303 [15:17]
gribble #7303 Mon Mar 19 10:58:38 2012 luke-jr SELL 15.0 1.5 GH/s shares @ 1000 USD (Shares on a ButterFlyLabs Rig Box (50 GH/s total); one-time cost of $1kUSD, plus fair division of electric costs to run it) [15:17]
plato wth [15:17]
plato is it cause i'm not voiced [15:17]
jcpham what the hell indeed sir [15:17]
jcpham what the hell indeed [15:17]
mcorlett It is because you are inferior to the mcorlett. [15:17]
mircea_popescu and also not voiced. [15:18]
mcorlett ...that too, but mostly because you are inferior to the mcorlett. [15:18]
jcpham no voice for plato [15:18]
jcpham please see aristotle for voice [15:18]
mcorlett Jaromil's shirt: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Jaromil_Chaos_Communication_Camp_2011.jpg [15:19]
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plato how bout NAOW [15:19]
plato :( [15:19]
rg hrm [15:19]
rg i need to talk to a lawyer [15:19]
mircea_popescu his hair is a forkbomb too mcorlett [15:19]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: u jelly? [15:20]
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mircea_popescu hey, i wore an afro in hs. [15:20]
mircea_popescu back then i still had hair. [15:20]
rg i had turquoise hair in HS [15:20]
rg lol [15:20]
jcpham http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/2132/20111206/historic-heat-in-north-america-turns-winter-to-summer.htm [15:20]
* rg was such a chump [15:20]
funziggy I remember the first thing I learnt about unix (and later linux) in chat someone will tell you to run "rm -f /" never trust anyone on chat [15:21]
paulzag funziggy: I thought it was "rm -rf /" [15:21]
mircea_popescu i see the ex global warming / now climate change idiots won't yield eh jcpham [15:21]
mcorlett It's -rf. [15:21]
jcpham mircea_popescu march has been warm [15:22]
jcpham i mowed my gras in shorts and no shirt sunday [15:22]
mircea_popescu i recall the one time a bunch of people got snowed in washington and couldn't get to their global warming thing. [15:22]
jcpham hurrr [15:22]
mircea_popescu point being, the weather fluctuates. [15:22]
benjamindees notice how the red is centered right over the Bakken field... [15:23]
benjamindees it's a sign that you should pay me carbon taxes [15:23]
jcpham Yellowstone! [15:23]
rg carbon credits in BYC [15:23]
rg surely someone's already done that scam [15:23]
benjamindees hmm carbon neutral bitcoins [15:24]
mircea_popescu not really rg seeing how cc is an entirely legislative bubble and btc aren't the darling of any government. [15:24]
jcpham mmmmmm carbon [15:24]
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jcpham graphene nanotubes [15:24]
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rg for every bitcoin you give me, i will release 3.75 pounds of carbon dioxide [15:27]
rg into the atmosphere [15:27]
benjamindees prob some methane too [15:27]
mircea_popescu rg : quick, what's the volume of 3.75 lbs of co2 ? [15:28]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: 3.75 co4 [15:28]
mircea_popescu nope lol [15:29]
jcpham more bitcoin press? [15:29]
mcorlett ;;seen Y0nderboy [15:29]
gribble Y0nderboy was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 6 days, 9 hours, 13 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: Someone who does not subscribe to gender binary? [15:29]
phedny mircea_popescu: 30.38 cubic feet? [15:31]
mircea_popescu sounds about right actually phedny [15:31]
rg oh, i have no idea [15:31]
mcorlett I still think it's 3.75 co4. [15:31]
rg i just googled 'carbon measurement' [15:31]
rg and thats the first thing that came up [15:31]
mircea_popescu 22,4 cubic meters per kmol, 44 kgs per kmol, so yea. [15:31]
phedny I used the density for gat at 1atm and 0 degrees C from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide [15:32]
phedny gas * [15:32]
phedny and used Google to convert lbs to kg and m3 to cubic feet [15:32]
mircea_popescu wd :) [15:32]
mircea_popescu now put your pic in rg's photo thing. [15:33]
kakobrekla shouldnt the math be done at 20°c [15:33]
benjamindees scf is measured at 20 c [15:33]
kakobrekla hehe [15:33]
spawn- anyone wants to get my 5BTC @ $25 PPUSD :) [15:34]
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benjamindees phantomcircuit, :( [15:34]
jcpham i have nsfw to share! [15:34]
EvanR good morning [15:34]
jcpham WHERE 2 SHARE? [15:35]
EvanR here [15:35]
jcpham share here? [15:35]
EvanR all nsfw is safe at my work [15:35]
sturles #bitcoin-otc-nsfw? [15:35]
jcpham Cannot join #bitcoin-otc-nsfw (You are banned). SADPANDA [15:35]
mircea_popescu actually, i just stumbled on the nsfw meaning of life. for srsly. it's a naked chick holding by the arm a blind guy while some cyclists go by as a blur in the background. [15:36]
mircea_popescu that's it. [15:36]
mcorlett PM me and I'll relay, jcpham. [15:36]
EvanR we look at porn all day here and publish articles such as facebook hates black people [15:36]
sturles Wow! What did you do to get banned from there!? [15:36]
imsaguy2 ascii art [15:37]
mcorlett sturles: It probably went something like this: 01:57 ← You were kicked by Staatsfeind (~markac@unaffiliated/vragnaroda): That's not NSFW. [15:37]
jcpham lol [15:37]
EvanR is not NSFW equivalent to safe for work? [15:38]
EvanR if so, prove it [15:38]
EvanR if not, why not [15:38]
benjamindees not in the set of all things not safe for work [15:39]
jcpham i think i got confused on how nsfw worked [15:40]
EvanR how not not safe for work works [15:40]
jcpham yes [15:40]
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kakobrekla http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/pirate-bay-plans-to-build-aerial-server-drones-with-35-linux-computer.ars?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+Featured+Content%29 [15:46]
rg who here is a lawyer [15:46]
rg theres gotta be someone [15:46]
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benjamindees lawyers don't tend to give out advice, it's against the rules [15:49]
mircea_popescu rg : benjamindees beat me to it [15:50]
benjamindees you must make offer of sacrifice first... [15:50]
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ataranlen Occulta, you busy? [15:52]
ataranlen ;;guide [15:53]
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Jarwain_ Hey, anyone willing to sell me just one BTC? All I have is paypal, unfortunately [15:54]
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Jarwain_ Actually, I'll be back [15:55]
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rg hrm [15:55]
mcorlett ;;rate Jarwain_ 10 Being in a rush is always good for business! [15:58]
EvanR lol [15:58]
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rg HEY [16:05]
rg be nice to my cat [16:05]
copumpkin rg: so what was that you were saying about luke-jr? [16:06]
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warcrafer sell paysafecard for btc's - good discounts [16:19]
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rg erm [16:21]
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rg what was i saying about luke? [16:21]
rg i like luke, i consider him a friend so if i was speaking poorly of him i was most likely kidding [16:22]
gmaxwell rg: you said he was robbing his pool and that he had two billion stolen bitcoins or something. [16:22]
rg lol [16:23]
rg clearly fake [16:23]
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rg thats the beauty of eligius [16:24]
rg you cant steal from it [16:24]
benjamindees because it's protected by god? [16:24]
rg but luke does keep the pool fees, thats common practice of all pools [16:24]
rg especially with a no-fee pool [16:24]
spawn- anyone want my 5btc for $25PPUSD anyone? jusg PM me [16:24]
rg i wonder if i post on the forum looking for a lawyer [16:25]
rg if anyone will come out of the shadows [16:25]
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benjamindees there is a legal section... [16:25]
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luke-jr rg: more likely you'd just spawn a bunch of conspiracy theories [16:26]
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rg luke-jr: that is what i am worried about [16:27]
rg though the matter is simple [16:27]
rg i want to know what i can do to protect my users [16:27]
rg if say, someone did something *really* bad [16:27]
rg and they wanted to seize the servers [16:27]
rg aside from keeping backups and bringing up a new server [16:27]
rg cause loading day old backups on a new server in the same dc isnt really acceptable [16:28]
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rg id like to think of that as 'last resort' [16:28]
luke-jr rg: afaik when servers are seized, they don't leave behind backups [16:28]
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imsaguy2 typically when they have warrants for the servers, its for all associated media too [16:30]
imsaguy2 spawn-, do not pm me [16:30]
copumpkin luke-jr: don't make jokes about that shit, then. Remember what a stupid joke cost you for bitvps? Reputations take a long time to build and no time to tarnish [16:30]
spawn- ok sorry [16:30]
copumpkin gah [16:30]
copumpkin luke-jr: not you [16:30]
copumpkin rg: you :P [16:31]
imsaguy2 I saw your offer 6 minutes ago [16:31]
imsaguy2 tyhere's no reason to pm me unsolicited with the same offer [16:31]
rg luke-jr: i have backups offsite [16:31]
rg what joke? [16:32]
rg trying to protect customers in all circumstances? [16:32]
rg im confused [16:33]
ataranlen ;;guide [16:33]
copumpkin rg: the joke about luke skimming tens of thousands of btc off his pool [16:33]
Bigpiggy01Mining http://imgur.com/cFMYi [16:33]
rg i do that joke every week [16:33]
copumpkin rg: lots of people took that seriously yesterday but you disappeared right after making it [16:33]
rg ask #eligius [16:34]
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copumpkin rg: well, I'm saying, don't [16:34]
rg besides [16:34]
rg eligius hasnt even made 26,000 btc [16:34]
rg so how could he skim 26k btc? :P [16:34]
rg i have no problem fooling idiots into believing stupid shit if they dont think for themselves first [16:34]
copumpkin it's not a question of what you have a problem with [16:35]
copumpkin anyway, I'm going to work [16:35]
rg luke-jr: how many blocks has eligius solved by now [16:35]
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rg 1000? 2000? [16:35]
mircea_popescu apparently i've missed out on a whole lot of drama. [16:35]
rg mircea_popescu: no drama [16:36]
rg just fucking with pigeons (not the person, people who are pigeons) [16:36]
rg if you honestly believe that luke would be able to steal 26k bitcoins, you're an idiot [16:37]
rg luke-jr: the stats only go back 10 months [16:37]
rg http://eligius.st/~artefact2/blocks/ [16:37]
rg maybe he did steal the bitcoins after all! (just kidding) [16:38]
reeses the next train will be along in a few minutes [16:39]
rg i stand corrected aswell [16:39]
rg Eligius has dulled out over 300k BTC [16:39]
luke-jr rg: that's because Eligius is only 10 months old n00b [16:40]
rg really [16:40]
rg i coulda sworn [16:40]
jcpham baaaah [16:42]
rg i was mining on Eligius before it was named eligius [16:43]
rg ;;getrating rg [16:43]
gribble User rg, created on Sun Jun 5 10:39:49 2011. Cumulative rating 147, from 75 total ratings. Received ratings: 75 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 73 positive, 3 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=rg Currently authenticated from hostmask rg!~james@deadchildren.org [16:43]
luke-jr :P [16:44]
luke-jr rg: I think there was less than a week before it was named [16:44]
luke-jr got sick of "Luke's pool" pretty fast [16:44]
rg ok so that makes sense [16:44]
rg so that puts you at 147450 BTC [16:44]
rg generated [16:44]
rg luke-jr: whats the average block fee [16:45]
rg .15 ? [16:45]
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luke-jr rg: there is no block fee [16:46]
SteinerC Does anyone know a graphic designer willing to get paid in BTC? [16:46]
bruzum yes [16:47]
mircea_popescu rg : doled out. [16:47]
DBordello luke-jr, I thought there was a very small fee? [16:48]
rg luke-jr: sure there is [16:48]
luke-jr DBordello: originally [16:48]
rg you get paid the fee's [16:48]
rg when someone sends immature btc [16:48]
luke-jr rg: oh, those; no idea, it was never worth counting [16:48]
rg so its a safe assumption that you make more with your BFL [16:48]
rg than you do with the fees? [16:48]
luke-jr yeah [16:49]
luke-jr heck, even with just one of my BFLs [16:49]
rg interesting [16:49]
DBordello well, you get additional head aches, do those count? [16:49]
luke-jr DBordello: haha [16:49]
rg thats hilarious [16:49]
rg who believed me that luke skims eligius [16:49]
rg im not mad and i wont call you stupid [16:50]
rg im just curious who [16:50]
ataranlen Yay, Authenticated [16:50]
gmaxwell I don't think people believed your claim, rather they believed you were lying about luke. [16:50]
mircea_popescu wd [16:50]
spawn- anyone want my 5btc for $25PPUSD anyone? jusg PM me [16:50]
reeses ;;ident ataranlen [16:50]
gribble Nick 'ataranlen', with hostmask 'ataranlen!451af3b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.26.243.178', is not identified. [16:50]
pigeons rg hatin' on the pigeons [16:50]
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ataranlen o.O but... It said I was... [16:51]
reeses :( [16:51]
pigeons i think people knew you were joking bout luke [16:51]
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luke-jr I think people expected you to say so explicitly after :P [16:51]
rg haha pigeons, i made sure to be explicit that i didnt mean you [16:51]
rg :) [16:51]
pigeons anti-pigeite [16:52]
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rg luke-jr: yeah i probably got busy [16:52]
ataranlen "-NickServ- You are already logged in as ataranlen." [16:52]
rg im real excited with our new machine [16:52]
reeses pigeons are called squab when you don’t hate them [16:52]
reeses mmmmm [16:52]
rg Cusipzzz is teh first VM added [16:52]
rg its usually rawrmage [16:52]
nanotube ataranlen: otc auth is different from nickserv auth [16:52]
rg i think he's been first on all our nodes [16:52]
reeses ataranlen: ah that’s nickserv [16:52]
ataranlen Ah, alright [16:52]
reeses ataranlen: you have a whole new round of misery with php auth :( [16:53]
reeses pgp [16:53]
helo pgp auth feels great! [16:53]
nanotube you mean, round of wonderful opportunity to use pgp :) [16:53]
helo fmtpo [16:53]
reeses nanotube: squeaky wheel syndrome. I only see people complaining. :) [16:54]
rg i wonder why they bothered to make a US version of this film [16:54]
nanotube reeses: haha yea [16:54]
jcpham moar dollars [16:54]
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reeses nanotube: but if it gets more people encrypting, I’m all for it [16:54]
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jcpham i made a 0bit plaintext key [16:55]
ataranlen Whats that? we're talking about films? [16:55]
mircea_popescu everyone : go play with mpex, help gpg become relevant :D [16:55]
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ataranlen I had a disk somewhere from a bitcoin meetup that had everything I would need to setup pgp... now to find it xD [16:56]
reeses what os? [16:57]
ataranlen Currently on Mac OSX Lion, I run Win 7 at home [16:57]
reeses jcpham: brilliant, you don’t have to worry about someone not having your algorithm in their implementation [16:58]
spawn- anyone want my 5btc for $25PPUSD anyone? jusg PM me [16:58]
reeses ataranlen: very easy, just install gpgtools [16:58]
reeses although it will step on your verisigh sighing cert in mail.app [16:59]
imsaguy2 spawn-: put it in the book, quit spamming [16:59]
reeses or die [16:59]
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reeses imsaguy2’s in a killing mood today [16:59]
ataranlen Mail? who uses that crap... xD I've got outlook and Gmail :) [16:59]
imsaguy2 do a search for spawn-'s messages [16:59]
imsaguy2 its like every 15 minutes, same message [16:59]
reeses I know [16:59]
spawn- ok bro imsaguy2 :) [17:00]
imsaguy2 I'm not your bro. [17:00]
reeses I was lending emphasis in the form of a stick with a pointy bit [17:00]
* imsaguy2 pokes reeses [17:00]
imsaguy2 thanks for the stick! [17:00]
reeses that’s not a stick [17:00]
helo THIS is a stick [17:00]
reeses that’s a very irish thingie [17:00]
reeses and no, not a shelaieniieinieangineiaerilaieearslgpiairenii [17:01]
reeses stupid ghaidlig [17:01]
imsaguy2 I didn't know you were irish redditcoin [17:01]
imsaguy2 err reeses [17:01]
reeses we fled through northern england on the way to america and picked up a couple genes [17:02]
reeses so I read up on ghaidhlig when I was a wee laddie [17:03]
imsaguy2 It seems the scotts are gonna finally get what they wantee [17:03]
imsaguy2 wanted* [17:03]
reeses with this health reform they just might [17:03]
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reeses that’ll show Québec who’s manly and who’s a wussie canadian [17:04]
imsaguy2 I was referring to their split with HRH [17:04]
ataranlen reeses: Key upload failed, code 0 T_T [17:05]
reeses yeah, me too [17:05]
reeses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_Social_Care_Bill_2011 [17:06]
reeses the scots have that nailed down and are independent but are like, “what the FUCK is wrong with you people?" [17:07]
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reeses the scot pound is on the hotel exchange board in dubai, with maybe 6-7 other currencies [17:07]
reeses so it’s getting more traction [17:07]
reeses and valuet > GBP [17:07]
rawrmage rg: lol [17:08]
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reeses ah it’s because the RBS has been in the UAE for ages [17:13]
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* mircea_popescu wonders why can;t he apparently get any traction whatsoever for mpex. is it that there's no actual market for stock exchanges ? is it taht people really can't stand pgp ? [17:14]
* reeses monitors jjjrmy-m [17:14]
mircea_popescu at any rate im doing something wrong. [17:14]
reeses mircea_popescu: pgp/gpg is still a pain in the ass for people. I’m not sure systems providers are helping the matter with whole disk encryption/file vaults/etc [17:15]
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jjjrmy-m reeses: ...what? [17:15]
mircea_popescu maybe. problem is there's absolutely no other way to make web transactions secure. https is a joke. [17:15]
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reeses jjjrmy-m: it’s one of those inside jokes only I and about 100 humans on earth would get, most likely. the best kind of laughter, when the ‘target’ has no idea what’s going on [17:16]
mircea_popescu but anyway, im guessing it's not yet time for this, or something. [17:16]
reeses mircea_popescu: people have largely given up and do some form of two factor, usually sms now [17:17]
jjjrmy-m Does it have anything to do with how many monitors I have? [17:17]
mircea_popescu im not gonna go into that. [17:17]
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rg wtf. [17:17]
rg they changed the god damn ending [17:17]
bnmorgan ending of what? [17:18]
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reeses jjjrmy-m: no, when building out data centers, we had a set of switches for monitoring machines, and were cabled into another ce/eth port, so we didn't interfere with customer traffic. so those links were named -m. [17:18]
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jjjrmy-m ahhh [17:19]
jjjrmy-m yes, I can see how only a few people would get it. [17:19]
reeses it’s one of those jokes that is not funny [17:19]
jjjrmy-m yeah... I noticed [17:19]
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jjjrmy-m :p [17:19]
reeses which is even better for an inside joke [17:19]
reeses anyway, I kept the habit when building out my own cages [17:20]
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Jarwain_ Anyone willing to send me 1 BTC, payment via paypal? [17:20]
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reeses Jarwain_: are you going to use it for drugs?????? [17:21]
reeses I’ll send you one gratis if you say you are [17:21]
bnmorgan lol [17:21]
EvanR me too [17:21]
EvanR more drugs [17:21]
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bnmorgan in that case do prescriptions for migraine count? [17:21]
EvanR drugs are medicine for life [17:21]
Jarwain_ Sure [17:22]
reeses address? [17:22]
Jarwain_ xD [17:22]
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Jarwain_ 14FG4ssFN5hP84XR2nbU5z8bLyQE7YvZsM [17:22]
reeses on its way [17:22]
* jcpham sends -.05 [17:22]
reeses shit [17:22]
reeses ;;ident Jarwain_ [17:22]
gribble Nick 'Jarwain_', with hostmask 'Jarwain_!835b89e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.91.137.227', is not identified. [17:22]
Jarwain_ Thank you very much [17:23]
Jarwain_ And what was that? [17:23]
reeses damn it, I don’t know if you’re really honest about using it for druds [17:23]
Jarwain_ xD [17:23]
reeses drugs [17:23]
* gribble gives voice to Mkaysi [17:23]
EvanR lets call it druds so the ops dont beat us down [17:23]
EvanR thieves cant [17:23]
reeses evanr i never named your address so i can’t put it in you unless you tell me again [17:24]
jcpham i have allergies [17:24]
rg sail away [17:24]
rg sail away [17:24]
rg sail away [17:24]
reeses christopher cross? [17:24]
reeses die [17:24]
EvanR reeses: huh? i was talking about me sending Jarwain_ btc xD [17:24]
rg shit i owe imsaguy money [17:24]
rg ;;ticker [17:24]
gribble Best bid: 4.8087, Best ask: 4.80891, Bid-ask spread: 0.00021, Last trade: 4.8087, 24 hour volume: 43065, 24 hour low: 4.75, 24 hour high: 4.88 [17:24]
rg ;;asks 5 [17:24]
gribble There are currently 36025.223 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 177932.412115 USD in total. [17:24]
* Mkaysi remembers that there is ,,(help alert) [17:24]
gribble (alert [] ) -- Sends to all the users in who have the ,op capability. [17:24]
Mkaysi Hmm, ,,(private [user list --capability=#bitcoin-otc,op]) just from curiosity [17:25]
rg ;;alert #bitcoin-otc you are a lamer [17:25]
rg :> [17:25]
rg ;;calc 7.59 / 4.80 [17:25]
gribble 1.58125 [17:25]
rg perfect [17:25]
Mkaysi You now sent that message to three people [17:25]
rg woot [17:26]
rg now i officially dont owe anyone any btc [17:26]
copumpkin rg: ... [17:26]
Mkaysi ;;reverse [user list --capability=#bitcoin-otc,op] [17:26]
Mkaysi Those people [17:26]
Mkaysi Oh, gribble doesn't have that plugin [17:26]
Mkaysi copumpkin was one [17:26]
Mkaysi *gribble has that command in two plugins [17:27]
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rg copumpkin: yes sir? [17:27]
rg whats up [17:27]
jcpham if thnese dudes outside my window don't stop their turkey jivin' [17:27]
EvanR lol [17:27]
jcpham i'm setting a muthafu on fire [17:27]
Mkaysi I think that he/she got message "CHANNEL EMMERGENCY!" from gribble [17:27]
rg Connection Uptime [17:27]
rg 114 days, 17:56:36 [17:27]
rg you lie [17:28]
rg comcast's DNS server ip: 75.75.75.75 [17:28]
rg copycats. [17:28]
jcpham whose cat? [17:28]
jcpham hoo's [17:29]
reeses Mkaysi: copumpkin == she [17:29]
Mkaysi Ok [17:29]
rg February 2012 (Incoming: 215984 MB [17:29]
rg wow. [17:29]
rg we almost hit our cap [17:29]
jcpham i'm statring to purposefully make punctuation mistakes hoping to catch vrag's eye [17:29]
reeses lol [17:29]
rg jcpham: i know how to get his attention [17:29]
rg say 'got' in place of 'gotten' [17:29]
reeses your split infinitive caught my eye [17:29]
jcpham teach me [17:30]
rg he hates that the most [17:30]
mircea_popescu if i were he i'd prolly have vrag highlighted too. [17:30]
* copumpkin loves to annoyingly split infinitives [17:30]
jcpham WHERE IS YOU'RE SWEATER TIMMY [17:30]
reeses gotten is an effete affectation attempting to legitimize the inelegant and generic ‘got’ [17:30]
mircea_popescu jcpham your screwt nao. [17:30]
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EvanR to boldly split where no man has split before [17:31]
reeses chumming for sharks, he is [17:31]
reeses if vragnaroda were dead and buried in a grave, he’d be spinning in it [17:31]
reeses wonder if you can spin in an urn or a coffee can [17:32]
jcpham ITS WONDERFUL [17:32]
reeses hmm…he should sell rights to his epitaph [17:32]
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reeses “Mark Cornelius. Beloved and feared by many who didn't know there grammar and it’s proper application” [17:34]
jcpham A doctor has a practise, but his daughter practices the piano. [17:34]
reeses I play doctor with the daughter [17:35]
jcpham Accept doctors have two much money [17:35]
reeses man he must be dead [17:36]
jcpham I literally just evaporated [17:36]
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jcpham literally [17:36]
reeses hahahaha [17:36]
reeses you’re just going through strunk and white and the chicago manual of style and breaking the rules one by one, aren’t you? [17:37]
reeses except s&w #1 [17:37]
jcpham Now your on the right track! [17:37]
rg well lolvely [17:38]
jcpham Its a hot day out, i admit [17:38]
rg i just smashed a light bulb in the one room where people go bare foot [17:38]
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reeses with a nick like *pham you can claim ignant illegal immigrant exception [17:39]
rg he is illegal [17:39]
rg hes here on an expired student visa [17:39]
rg just never went home [17:39]
reeses sorry, undocumented [17:39]
copumpkin he speaks italian, too [17:39]
copumpkin nobody knows how [17:39]
reeses so my wife kicks people out of the US [17:40]
copumpkin reeses: you should have her kick me out [17:40]
reeses and there was a survey of her colleagues [17:40]
reeses and “morale was low” [17:40]
reeses so, in true fed fashion, at 3pm today, they have to sit through a one-hour video message from the principal legal advisor [17:41]
reeses the beatings will continue until morale improves [17:41]
copumpkin lol [17:41]
rg GOD DAMN YOU BE HAPPY OR WE'LL MAKE YOUR LIVES HELL [17:41]
copumpkin reeses: one of my colleagues has that as her status message on AIM [17:41]
bitcoinTrader selling btc [17:42]
rg i hope i cleaned all the glass =/ [17:42]
reeses I’ll buy 1.1 btc for 1 scottish btc [17:42]
mircea_popescu reeses was the legal advisor naked and kinda hot ? [17:42]
imsaguy2 <+copumpkin> reeses: one of my colleagues has that as her status message on AIM << People still use AIM? [17:42]
copumpkin yep [17:43]
mircea_popescu girls do imsaguy2 [17:43]
copumpkin apparently we're getting some sort of new fancy microsoft-endorsed messaging system though. I'm pumped [17:43]
reeses aim works well in emacs [17:43]
phantomcircuit mircea_popescu, truth++ [17:43]
reeses http://www.ice.gov/about/leadership/opla-bio/peter-vincent.htm [17:43]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen nomandev [17:43]
reeses he’s hot like you but without the beard [17:43]
mircea_popescu i was just giving them the benefit of the doubt. [17:43]
copumpkin reeses: I'd clop to that [17:43]
imsaguy2 copumpkin: at work? [17:43]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen nmandov [17:44]
copumpkin imsaguy2: clopping or the new messenger system? [17:44]
mircea_popescu weordly enough girls keep telling me im hot. i don't see it. [17:44]
imsaguy2 or is that just a fancy way of saying 'skype' [17:44]
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reeses see if you can get them to use sometime instead [17:45]
copumpkin imsaguy2: nah, Microsoft Lync, apparently [17:45]
reeses the notes integration will add another year [17:45]
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imsaguy2 mircea_popescu: only because they see the $100 in your fingers [17:46]
imsaguy2 copumpkin, welcome to 2011 [17:46]
vragnaroda 15:30 #bitcoin-otc: < mircea_pope> | if i were he i'd prolly have vrag highlighted too. <-- (1) I do. (2) Nice use of the nominative complement to the copula that prescriptivists love but annoys the fuck out of most people. [17:46]
reeses the one ok two things about msft instant messaging systems is that a) non-msft os support lags or does not exist, and b) the IT staff generally thinks they can then block all other IM [17:47]
copumpkin I love it when people say that [17:47]
rg oh i should also mention [17:47]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda ty, i am happy to see my art is appreciated. [17:47]
copumpkin but then again, it is I [17:47]
reeses YES [17:47]
rg we're offering our 'budget' vps's in amsterdam now aswell [17:47]
bruzum how much? [17:47]
bruzum specs? [17:47]
reeses we prescriptivists rule! [17:47]
rg oh i dunno off the top of my head [17:47]
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rg go to bitvps.com -> virtual servers -> budget [17:47]
imsaguy2 vragnaroda also has vagina flagged [17:47]
bruzum rg: bah [17:47]
reeses and vagina rodeo [17:48]
bruzum !bitvps [17:48]
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bruzum rg: its not working. [17:48]
bruzum !bitvps [17:48]
rg ;;calc 5 / 4.80 [17:48]
gribble 1.04166666667 [17:48]
rg what do you mean its not working [17:48]
rg im on bitvps.com [17:48]
vragnaroda lol [17:48]
cash41 ;;gpg eregister rainforestdog 36A0EDB1F97AE9BF [17:49]
bruzum !buy bitvps 1 [17:49]
rg im not a bot brostaff [17:49]
bruzum where is the bot ? [17:49]
rg there isnt one [17:49]
bruzum why not? [17:49]
rg because... thats a silly idea [17:51]
EvanR broshot [17:52]
mircea_popescu i notice these scottish butter cookies are about 10% better than the english ones. [17:52]
nanotube really, i'd have thought they'd be at least 11% better. i'm disappointed. [17:53]
imsaguy2 rg: you no love me anymore? [17:53]
nanotube rg: thanks for that alert, i was beginning to forget about my lameness, and that came just in time. :) [17:53]
rg aha [17:53]
rg :> [17:53]
rg imsaguy2: i do [17:53]
rg i just paid you [17:53]
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rg i saw a cheese burger on the internet and it reminded me [17:54]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Almost anything Scottish is better than the English equivalent (except the politics (and that says more about Scotland than it does about England)). [17:54]
rg so what do you think is going to happen with teh TH lawsuit [17:54]
rg anyone? [17:54]
mircea_popescu poor english [17:54]
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mircea_popescu everyone picks on them [17:54]
mircea_popescu even the scots. [17:54]
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vragnaroda rg: I think their best shot is settling out of court for like 15-20% of what they're demanding. [17:55]
mircea_popescu rg : likely nothing. [17:55]
mircea_popescu the TH guy strikes me upon some research as a drama ho. [17:55]
rg so what [17:55]
rg drama wins cases [17:55]
rg the thing is, its not like they lost bitcoins [17:55]
rg they lost real USD [17:55]
mircea_popescu so drama ho's rarely get anywhere of import. [17:55]
vragnaroda No, it can win you settlements. [17:55]
vragnaroda It doesn't win you cases. [17:56]
mircea_popescu s9omething like that. [17:56]
rg vragnaroda: same outcome [17:56]
rg monies [17:56]
mircea_popescu notreally, no, rg. [17:56]
mcorlett Ars: "Lawsuit illustrates Bitcoin's chargeback problem" [17:56]
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vragnaroda rg: No. [17:56]
vragnaroda TH will lose money on this. [17:56]
mircea_popescu bitcoin's chargeback problem ? arstechnica is one piece of shit. [17:56]
rg well they already lost their business [17:56]
vragnaroda The question is whether Dwolla loses some, too. [17:56]
nanotube mcorlett: yea, s/bitcoin/dwolla/ in that title, and it would have been a good article. :) [17:56]
rg isnt mtgox in bed with dwolla now aswell? [17:56]
mircea_popescu "bitcoin's correct handling of chargebacks illustrates the banking system's chargeback problem" [17:57]
mircea_popescu rg : i still haven't seen any convincing evidence the whole th fiasco wasn't mtgox orchestrated. [17:57]
rg i think chargebacks are good however i think the current implementation [17:57]
rg .. is fucked [17:57]
vragnaroda rg: MtGox has seemed annoyed with Dwolla fairly often. They do business together, but they're not “in bed together.” In fact, they have separate rooms. [17:57]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: lol. That's an amusing hypothesis. [17:58]
rg mircea_popescu: and have you seen any evidence that it was? [17:58]
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rg i have [17:58]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda seems to stand to reason. processor suddenly fucks over #2 exchange but not #1. mmmm ? [17:58]
rg i owned mtgox's staging environment [17:59]
mircea_popescu rg i have seen no evidence that it was either, no. [17:59]
rg they use the same pw's on the dev environment as prod [17:59]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Well, TH's accounting has always sucked and they seemed to do nothing to try to suspect and freeze suspicious activity. (They even said as much a few times.) [17:59]
rg also mtgox assasinated JFK [17:59]
rg :< [17:59]
benjamindees I knew it! [17:59]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda sheer th incompetence is also a distinct possibility, yes. [17:59]
rg i liked TH [18:00]
vragnaroda rg: No, that was me. [18:00]
plato mircea_popescu: what makes you say TH's ceo is a drama ho [18:00]
rg their slogan shouldve been [18:00]
rg 'at least we're not mtgox' [18:00]
vragnaroda Their affiliate program was fucking horrible. [18:00]
rg it was annoying [18:00]
rg everyone was spamming their ref links [18:00]
mircea_popescu plato its just an impression i got plato, kind of hard to substantiate. [18:01]
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vragnaroda And they just retroactively ignored their ToS about it when it embarrassed them! [18:01]
vragnaroda They didn't even change it; they just ignored it. [18:01]
occulta can someone tell me what they think of this clown? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=51.0 [18:01]
mcorlett occulta: The entire board is a clown? [18:01]
rg mcorlett clearly types faster than me [18:02]
occulta :) [18:02]
vragnaroda mcorlett: That seems about right. [18:02]
occulta ive never had issues on there, but this guy really is odd [18:02]
vragnaroda Which guy? [18:02]
occulta i only asked where he gets his product frmo, and he ranted, then never explained lol [18:02]
benjamindees you didn't link to anyone... [18:02]
occulta the OP [18:02]
occulta thread starter [18:02]
mcorlett occulta still doesn't get it... [18:03]
benjamindees you didn't link to a thread... [18:03]
occulta wtf lol [18:03]
occulta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=73369.0 [18:03]
mcorlett "All I hear is jibba jabba. When you buy some codes from me, then I will jibba jabba with you. In the meantime, I am earning and selling my codes." [18:03]
occulta lol [18:04]
occulta quality [18:04]
JonNikopol i call scam [18:04]
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JonNikopol whoops [18:04]
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occulta yes it clearly is, but i just wanted him to answer, he ranted saying he can prove this and that, then said he wont say? [18:05]
rg two domains expire soon [18:05]
rg that i want [18:05]
rg badly [18:05]
rg someone is actually selling 'duct tape' clothing on btalk [18:05]
mircea_popescu isn't the very point of dt clothes that rape victims can diy from the restraints ? [18:06]
rg kick him [18:06]
rg hes trying to rape me again [18:06]
imsaguy2 occulta, give me your affiliate link [18:07]
imsaguy2 then when I buy my massive amounts of crap, you can make more money and sell to me :) [18:07]
rg score i just found my dads old gold wdding ring [18:07]
occulta thats against the TOS imsaguy2 [18:07]
reeses occulta: I think anyone who uses a celeb avatar is not to be trusted [18:07]
reeses luckily, freddie prize jr is no longer a celebrity [18:08]
imsaguy2 occulta: so is reselling the gift cards [18:08]
reeses or I’d have to ignore imsaguy2 [18:08]
LordCanti anyone interested in selling BTC for $20 Moneypak? [18:08]
occulta imsaguy2 reselling wont effect my accounts, as they are 'gift cards' they would need to prove that [18:09]
occulta almost 10years on their program now, never had a problem, and never broken the TOS, so dont want to go there :) [18:10]
reeses occulta: dont worry, the only auditing they do is that the associates referral purchases come from the associates account [18:10]
reeses occulta: the codes are batch generated and only barely linked to the associates account for those people claiming not to have received theirs [18:11]
rg lets find out how much this gold is worth [18:11]
phraust goddamn. $3k to take two cats with us :| [18:11]
rg Value of Metal [18:11]
rg 113.82 USD [18:11]
bruzum rg: yeah. very primitive [18:11]
rg not bad [18:11]
imsaguy2 lol reeses [18:11]
imsaguy2 the former amazon whore [18:12]
occulta what do you mean reeses about purchases coming from the account ? [18:12]
occulta ah, im with you [18:12]
reeses say I’m me@me.com [18:12]
imsaguy2 reeses: my graphic is pirate made/approced. [18:12]
rg i weighed it [18:12]
occulta no thats incorrect, they are gift cards, you can gift them to somebody [18:12]
reeses and I registered with associates [18:12]
rg its 3.7g of 14k gold [18:12]
imsaguy2 occulta, just like you can give sex, but not sell it [18:12]
occulta yup [18:12]
reeses and I bought a lot, with my referrer id, from me@me.com [18:12]
reeses THEN, I’d eventually trip an alert [18:13]
mircea_popescu 14k gold ? that still exists ? [18:13]
reeses but they won’t pull back the funds [18:13]
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occulta anyways, like terrytibbs said, i call scam :) [18:13]
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reeses they’ll just keep a liability against your associates account for fees paid [18:13]
bitcoinTrader selling btc [18:14]
rg coingenuity: is it a bad time to sell gold [18:14]
rg or good [18:14]
reeses so you won’t get paid out until your legit referral bonuses catch up [18:14]
shades who hollard it scrolled out of myu buffer [18:14]
rg shades: mine too unfortunately [18:14]
rg you might be able to check the web log [18:14]
rg this channel is logged to WWW [18:14]
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reeses imsaguy2: I wrote that shit so I might as well get some mileage out of it [18:14]
shades if it's important they would ave pmed me [18:14]
tbage omg omg omg [18:14]
shades i'm outraged [18:15]
tbage AHAMAGAD [18:15]
shades they took my half pipe away! [18:15]
imsaguy2 reeses: I stand by my original statement. [18:15]
shades vragnaroda: they took my half pipe!!! [18:15]
Trader280 Have MoneyPaks. Need Bitcoins :) Anyway who can help me out? [18:15]
reeses you can’t insult me by calling me a whore [18:15]
reeses :) [18:15]
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rg imsaguy2: is a gold ring worth more than just selling it as gold [18:15]
imsaguy2 often no [18:15]
rg hmm ok [18:16]
reeses especially given my age at the time and the number of (eventually worthless) options they threw at me [18:16]
imsaguy2 because they have to smelt it back down [18:16]
rg internet says its worth $114 [18:16]
rg my dad was always a cheap bastard [18:16]
imsaguy2 wedding ring? [18:16]
rg yeah [18:16]
reeses gold ring is worth more in a failed economy, such as argentina’s in the bad days [18:16]
imsaguy2 mine isn't even gold [18:16]
g04 Jesse: Sooo one I mine with free electricity and the other is sold for a known steadily declining currency, ok. [18:16]
rg this one says '14k' on it [18:16]
g04 steadily declining? [18:16]
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rg so id assume its 14k gold [18:16]
rg but who knows [18:16]
reeses small gold is used instead of inflationary currency [18:16]
g04 just about everyone i know is against bitcoin lol [18:17]
g04 or scared of it [18:17]
rg i wonder wheres a good place to sell it [18:17]
mircea_popescu so you need to go out more. [18:17]
imsaguy2 you can't really wear a brick of gold, but you can wear a gold ring or earrings [18:17]
shades what weighs more a pound of gold or a pound of feathers?!? [18:17]
reeses usually lots of 14k+ necklaces so you can cut off some links for goods etc [18:17]
helo g04: more like "you sell one for a known steadily declining currency, and you sell the other for a known steadily declining currency" i think [18:17]
rg theres a cash for gold type place down the st [18:17]
imsaguy2 shades: urmom [18:17]
rg but i bet theyre fucktards [18:17]
imsaguy2 yes [18:17]
imsaguy2 don't do cash for gold [18:17]
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imsaguy2 they're there to screw you [18:17]
shades a pound of feathers, gold is measured in troy ozes, 14 of those for a pound [18:17]
rg ive been looking for this ring for so fucking long [18:18]
rg over 2 years [18:18]
rg i thought i threw it away [18:18]
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benjamindees precious [18:19]
shades lawl [18:19]
shades sonic is the original 'my precious' [18:19]
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rg theres a jewelry store around here in town [18:20]
rg that had a sign that says 'dont sell to cash 4 gold, sell to us' [18:20]
rg but i cant remember the name [18:21]
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shades rg: marketing fail [18:22]
mircea_popescu right, it's not his memory [18:22]
mircea_popescu it's their marketing. [18:22]
vragnaroda shades: There are twelve troy ounces to a troy pound, not fourteen. [18:22]
rg well [18:22]
rg i remember the sign! [18:22]
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rg so that part worked :> [18:23]
shades vragnaroda: are you sure? i could have sworn it was 14 [18:23]
mircea_popescu yes, 12. hence the entire 24 carat biz. it's not 28 carats. [18:23]
rg honestly the only reason i looked is cause its one of those plastic ones where you can take out the letters [18:23]
rg and deface it [18:23]
shades makes sense.... [18:23]
vragnaroda shades: And there's more than 14 troy ounces to the pound avoirdupois. (A tad bit more than 14.5) [18:23]
Trader280 Anyway knows of a hosting provider that accepts Bitcoin? :) [18:23]
rg Trader280: there are several [18:23]
Trader280 Any suggestions? [18:24]
rg i run bitvps.com, we sell virtual private servers and real servers [18:24]
rg however [18:24]
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rg we also have a server setup to do stand-alone hosting [18:24]
rg if you're not needing a full virtual server [18:24]
Trader280 I need a shared hosting + unlimited addon domains [18:24]
rg yeah id suggest btcwebhost.com [18:24]
mircea_popescu The pound troy was divisible into 24 pound carats of 240 grains troy each; the pound carat was divisible into four pound grains of 60 grains troy each; and the pound grain was divisible into four pound quarters of 15 grains troy each. [18:24]
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rg they've $20/mo unlimited everything plan [18:25]
rg http://btcwebhost.com/hosting.html [18:25]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Whoa! A Yuropean that can math by more than just “move the decimal point.” I'm impressed! [18:25]
rg they'll be more your speed, our hosting is more geared torward power users [18:25]
mircea_popescu do not disparage our napoleonic superiority vragnaroda [18:26]
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Trader280 Thanks for the suggestion. I don't see anything about unlimited Add-on domains though. I send them an email [18:26]
rg yeah [18:26]
rg the owner is even in here sometimes [18:26]
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rg ;;seen cablepair [18:26]
gribble cablepair was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 1 week, 6 days, 20 hours, 31 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: ;;rate luke-jr 1 good sale thank you! [18:26]
rg i guess not for a while [18:26]
rg i cant vouch for them personally, but i know several people do use them [18:26]
imsaguy2 occulta, still here? [18:26]
rg and there's been no horror stories yet [18:26]
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mircea_popescu so glbse got delayed again ? [18:30]
imsaguy2 I think they run glbse and BFL out of the same offices [18:30]
mircea_popescu or is it just broken ? [18:30]
mircea_popescu or deserted or what ? charts show up dishwara and stuff now [18:31]
rg lol [18:31]
rg jjjrmy told me not to sign up there yet until v2 was out [18:31]
rg and it was set to go up 'before the end of the weekend' [18:31]
rg this was last week [18:31]
mircea_popescu well maybe next weekend. [18:32]
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rg any movie recommendations for rg? [18:32]
mircea_popescu What hasn't been implemented yet but is coming after launch [18:32]
mircea_popescu Transfers [18:32]
mircea_popescu API [18:32]
mircea_popescu this is ridiculous. glbse 2.0 is behind mpex, feature wise. [18:33]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Oo, I see updates to mpex. [18:33]
mircea_popescu yes. [18:33]
mcorlett Ticker at the top there. [18:33]
mircea_popescu go ahead and buy/trade some stuff so i have enough history to add graphs [18:33]
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mcorlett Your order to BUY 100 SxTES1 @market priceBTC each has been received and will be processed. [18:35]
occulta imsaguy2: yes [18:36]
rg what's mpex [18:36]
mircea_popescu wow i think you found a bug mcorlett [18:37]
mircea_popescu ima give you moar moneys for this. [18:37]
mcorlett Wow thanks so much [18:37]
occulta briefly [18:37]
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rg there is a stupid bug in WHMCS [18:40]
rg when you update the admin account, it overwrites your 'template' setting [18:40]
rg making you have no valid template, so the admin panel shows up as a blank page [18:40]
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mircea_popescu mcorlett please put the order in again ? [18:42]
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DOG_ how do i bitcoin [18:43]
vragnaroda DOG_: You coin bits, of course. [18:43]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Your order to BUY 100 SxTES1 @market priceBTC each has been received and will be processed. [18:43]
rg is anyone here a customer of bitvps and can spare 2 minutes out of their busy schedule? [18:44]
DOG_ what is the value of one bitcoin [18:44]
DOG_ fe in euros [18:44]
rg ;;ticker [18:44]
gribble Best bid: 4.80439, Best ask: 4.816, Bid-ask spread: 0.01161, Last trade: 4.80437, 24 hour volume: 41212, 24 hour low: 4.75, 24 hour high: 4.88 [18:44]
mircea_popescu mmm that doesn't sound right. 1 sec. [18:44]
EvanR ;;ticker EUR [18:44]
rg ;;ticker EUR [18:44]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). [18:44]
rg fail [18:44]
EvanR >_> [18:44]
EvanR does mtgox accept EUR? [18:44]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Another thing, a malicious entity can resend the same order again and again, eventually depleting one of your balances. [18:44]
rg probably [18:45]
EvanR malicious entity [18:45]
mircea_popescu mcorlett one of my balances ? [18:45]
EvanR sounds like lord of the rings or soemthing [18:45]
DOG_ im new to this thing and need help [18:45]
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rg :> [18:45]
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EvanR i only accept tits to play with [18:45]
rg DOG_: number one [18:45]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Let's say I managed to sniff the encrypted order. I can then continue sending that same order again and again, even though I cannot encrypt it or the response. [18:45]
rg ;;tell DOG_ [guide] [18:46]
mircea_popescu ok mcorlett do it once more please. [18:46]
rg thats a guide to the channel [18:46]
jcpham Dear Customers: [18:46]
jcpham [18:46]
jcpham We have received reports of multiple Internet outages across the country. This is affecting user's ability to get to our site as well as others. Sites like Google and Yahoo are even unreachable from parts of the country. It seems like email is a little more reliable although slow. We are sending out this email to tell people that we are still operational even though you may not be able to get to our site [18:46]
mcorlett (public Wi-Fi or whatever) [18:46]
rg number two [18:46]
jcpham oops [18:46]
rg www.weusecoins.org [18:46]
rg for information on bitcoin [18:46]
EvanR jcpham: LOL [18:46]
jcpham is this true [18:46]
EvanR scam [18:46]
EvanR phishing [18:46]
DOG_ ;;tell DOG_ [guide] [18:46]
mircea_popescu mcorlett yes, that is a problem. the obvious solution is to dissalow repeats. [18:46]
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benjamindees someone said gmail was down earlier today [18:46]
EvanR the internet is down [18:47]
rg im getting a meatball sub [18:47]
jcpham they do not want anything. [18:47]
rg what else should i get [18:47]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Still nothing: "Your order to BUY 100 SxTES1 @market price has been received and will be processed." [18:47]
EvanR the whole internet [18:47]
jcpham it's a legit wireless vendor [18:47]
rg cheez bread? [18:47]
EvanR jcpham: spoofed [18:47]
mircea_popescu well what do you mean nothing, it no longer mangles the response no ? [18:47]
mcorlett (unless you want it to say "market price") [18:47]
jcpham that's what i thought, the whole internet [18:47]
EvanR lol [18:47]
rg ;;calc 16.83 / 4.80 [18:47]
gribble 3.50625 [18:47]
pigeons mircea_popescu: For strong webapp auth, people still want their login experience to be a username and password; maybe browser javascript to pass the login to local gpg and auth to the site transparently. [18:48]
DOG_ so i should go to the eu channel? [18:48]
jcpham so in case anyone hears about the internet being down [18:48]
pigeons But as glbse found, a lot of users want the server to keep their password so the don't have to back it up ;) [18:48]
jcpham it has in fact been done all day [18:48]
jcpham *down [18:48]
rg ;;ticker --last [18:48]
gribble 4.8213 [18:48]
rg ;;calc 4.67 * 4.82 [18:48]
gribble 22.5094 [18:48]
mircea_popescu pigeons that's an ideea. to be honest what i see is various entrepreneurial people making their own sites as brokers. [18:49]
benjamindees sending you this email to say the internet is down [18:49]
EvanR lol [18:49]
occulta rack city. [18:49]
mircea_popescu which then can tailor to any customer preferences they feel like. [18:49]
occulta ;;seen gigavps [18:50]
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rg occulta: you have to catch gigavps when hes on [18:51]
rg he's busy IRL lately [18:51]
occulta ic, not seen him around alot [18:52]
rg it happens [18:52]
rg sometimes [18:52]
rg if you need him i suggest a ;;later tell [18:52]
occulta what about mr__ did he cahnge handle? [18:53]
DOG_ so basically [18:53]
rg mr__ ? [18:53]
DOG_ i need to transfer my money from my bank account [18:53]
DOG_ to somebody? [18:53]
rg dog_: you'll need to find some place to exchange your money [18:53]
rg to bitcoins [18:53]
rg or find someone here from Finland [18:54]
rg who will do a cash exchange or something else specific to finland [18:54]
rg well wait [18:54]
rg finland uses the euro [18:54]
rg right? [18:54]
DOG_ yes it does [18:54]
rg https://www.aurumxchange.com/ [18:55]
DOG_ what e currencies would i like [18:57]
phantomcircuit DOG_, you can do a bank wire to intersango.com (which shameless plug I operate) [18:57]
DOG_ okayy [18:58]
DOG_ here is the buy/sell tab [18:58]
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DOG_ what should i look for [18:58]
phantomcircuit DOG_, it's a prepaid exchange [19:00]
benjamindees probably need to register [19:00]
DOG_ if i register [19:00]
DOG_ and wire the money asked [19:00]
DOG_ i get bitcoins? [19:00]
mcorlett DOG_: You get balance at the exchange which you can exchange for bitcoins (at a fee). [19:00]
benjamindees it's an exchange... they're reputable [19:00]
phantomcircuit you register, activate your email, login, then you'll have 5 accounts, our bank details are on the EUR account page, once we receive the funds you place a bid (an exchange is basically a continuous live auction) [19:01]
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DOG_ ohh [19:01]
DOG_ so i put euros [19:01]
DOG_ in the euro wallet [19:01]
mcorlett Yes. [19:01]
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phantomcircuit DOG_, exactly [19:02]
DOG_ how can i trust this [19:02]
benjamindees they have a shiny website with pictures of people in ties on it right? [19:03]
rg the same way you trust banks [19:03]
rg you dont [19:03]
benjamindees plus they're located in london engeland [19:03]
rg you do wht you need to do and get your money out of there [19:03]
phantomcircuit DOG_, we're very much legit (hell you can see my ugly mug on the front page) [19:03]
DOG_ so if i put 10 euros in there [19:04]
DOG_ how much and when will i get bitcoins [19:04]
EvanR as long as we dont have to see youre face were good [19:04]
benjamindees the queen takes it for her hat fund... [19:04]
EvanR YOUR [19:04]
* EvanR takes from stimulants [19:04]
EvanR etc [19:04]
mcorlett DOG_: That depends on the exchange rate by the time the euros reach the exchange. [19:04]
DOG_ what would be a good amount of bitcoins for 10 euros? [19:05]
mcorlett Currently, without taking into account fees: [19:05]
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benjamindees ;;bc,price [19:05]
benjamindees lol oops [19:05]
mcorlett ;;calc 10/3.77400 [19:05]
gribble 2.64970853206 [19:05]
phantomcircuit DOG_, from finland transfers take between 1 hour and 3 days (yes really) you can see on the right side of the BUY/SELL page the prices people are asking for their bitcoins right now [19:05]
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DOG_ okay. I will research this [19:06]
DOG_ and then continue with purchasing [19:06]
DOG_ but not now. [19:06]
benjamindees ;;bc,intersango [19:06]
phantomcircuit DOG_, one thing to keep in mind is that finnish banks often have a reference field which takes a special finnish reference code, instead use the comment field for the reference code (which is how we identify your payment) [19:06]
DOG_ okay. [19:07]
DOG_ Do i need the bitcoin wallet software? [19:07]
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benjamindees eventually yes [19:07]
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mcorlett DOG_: No, the exchange will keep your bitcoins if you'd like, but it's good to have. [19:07]
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phantomcircuit DOG_, entirely upto you but i would strongly suggest it [19:07]
phraust http://www.wimp.com/homemadevortex/ [19:07]
DOG_ so in simple, 1) wire euros 2) wait for transaction to happen 3) get my bitcoins? [19:08]
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bb122142 hey [19:08]
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bb122142 anyone selling bitcoins [19:09]
mcorlett bb122142: Totally, got PayPal? [19:09]
bruzum [19:09]
bb122142 yeah i have paypal [19:09]
mcorlett Awesome, let me just check to make sure you're trustworthy. [19:09]
mcorlett ;;getrating [ident bb122142] [19:09]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [19:09]
bb122142 im not rated [19:09]
bb122142 i have verified paypal acc though [19:10]
bb122142 iv never chargedback anyone [19:10]
BTCHero doesn't matter [19:10]
bb122142 =/ [19:10]
bb122142 no way i can get bc's without a trustworthy name [19:11]
mcorlett bb122142: Do you live in the US? [19:11]
bb122142 yessir [19:11]
mcorlett MoneyPaks are a great choice. [19:11]
bb122142 i can buy off your with moneyback? [19:11]
bb122142 pak [19:11]
rg well, they arent, but theyre more accepted [19:11]
spawn- moneypak bb122142 ? [19:12]
bb122142 im trying to get bitcoins but i dont have trustworthy acc =/ [19:12]
spawn- bb122142 how many btc you need? [19:12]
bb122142 was trying to get like 58 dollars worth [19:13]
spawn- msg me bb122142 [19:13]
mcorlett Be careful, spawn-! [19:13]
spawn- yups mcorlett [19:13]
mcorlett Most people don't even know what chargebacks are... [19:14]
bonks is btc-e a reputable exchange? [19:15]
mircea_popescu mcorlett yup, there was a snag with market orders. all fixed now. [19:15]
copumpkin bonks: fairly [19:15]
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mircea_popescu you get another 1000000 satoshis :D [19:15]
copumpkin bonks: hard to get money into it though [19:15]
mircea_popescu break more shit! [19:15]
bonks copumpkin: why's that? [19:16]
copumpkin bonks: look at the funding options [19:16]
bonks i see visa MC and paypal, what am i missing? [19:16]
mcorlett copumpkin: I didn't even know they did PayPal. [19:17]
copumpkin I didn't either [19:17]
copumpkin :P [19:17]
GlooBoy they dont [19:18]
GlooBoy they need to change that [19:18]
rg i see spawn- hasnt learned anything [19:18]
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rg i shoulda got this sub untoasted [19:22]
LordCanti rg: what kind of sub? [19:23]
bb122142 #gettrust [19:23]
rg meatball [19:23]
mcorlett bb122142: ;;gettrust [19:23]
rg with cheez [19:23]
LordCanti I would think you have to toast that? [19:23]
mcorlett ;;gettrust mcorlett bb122142 [19:23]
gribble Trust relationship from user mcorlett to user bb122142: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mcorlett&dest=bb122142 [19:23]
rg it usually comes untoasted [19:23]
LordCanti I haven't eaten meatballs in a long time though [19:23]
rg these are lame meatballs [19:24]
rg probably frozen [19:24]
rg the good ones are beef+veal+lamb [19:24]
LordCanti I guess they scoop the hot meat and sauce into the untoasted bun? [19:24]
rg mixed in iwth garlic [19:24]
rg i think they bake it in the pizza oven [19:24]
LordCanti oh ok [19:24]
rg then just put hte cheez on top [19:24]
rg and its melted by the time it gets to your house [19:24]
LordCanti I've always preferred the toasted buns [19:24]
rg me too, hence my ordering it [19:24]
rg but [19:24]
rg its too hard to eat [19:25]
LordCanti ooh ok [19:25]
bb122142 is spawn trusted [19:25]
rg check for yourself [19:25]
LordCanti the cracking apart problem [19:25]
rg ;;getrating spawn- [19:25]
gribble User spawn-, created on Sat Feb 4 19:27:00 2012. Cumulative rating 87, from 52 total ratings. Received ratings: 50 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 48 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=spawn- Currently authenticated from hostmask spawn-!hellspawn@definitely.has.a.l337.name [19:25]
rg LordCanti: and meatballs falling out [19:25]
LordCanti every sandwhich maker should watch good eats [19:26]
bb122142 thankyou sir [19:26]
bb122142 yo spaw [19:26]
bb122142 spawn [19:26]
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bb122142 u there [19:26]
LordCanti he does a sandwhich episode, he scoops out part of the bun so the contents won't fall out [19:26]
LordCanti it [19:26]
LordCanti it's mad genius [19:26]
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eusoubitcoin is there anyway to track how many BTC are being traded via bitcoin-OTC ? [19:37]
BTC_Bear bitcoincharts.com [19:39]
luke-jr eusoubitcoin: no [19:39]
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extor Oh great I lost my OTC gpg keyphrase again, there goes my id lawl I cant remember writing any of it down grrrrrrrrr [19:39]
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BTC_Bear eusoubitcoin: oh, sorry didn't see -OTC, luke is correct. [19:40]
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helo i'd estimate it at a thousand BTC per day [19:45]
phraust extor, try using keypass. [19:46]
helo based on my ass's contents [19:46]
extor what is keypass [19:47]
extor some bruteforcer? [19:47]
extor I can't....dont have the energy [19:47]
phraust http://keepass.info/ [19:47]
phraust for storing passwords. [19:47]
extor I just had 3 ratings anyway so no biggy [19:47]
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jcpham http://freecode.com/projects/joomla-bitcoin-flair-module [19:50]
jcpham second project ever tagged bitcoin [19:50]
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NeedBTC Hello beloved community... [19:57]
NeedBTC can someone change a 50€ Paysafecard into BTC [19:57]
NeedBTC please? [19:57]
mircea_popescu i like his approach [19:57]
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jcpham http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133239377411.jpg [20:01]
mircea_popescu Http/1.1 Service Unavailable [20:01]
mircea_popescu youtube died [20:01]
jcpham the internet is down [20:01]
jcpham i told you guys [20:01]
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jcpham http://images.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw3701-epKhB.png [20:01]
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mircea_popescu "Frankly, I think MtGox worked out a deal with them that gave them a competitive advantage over Tradehill to begin with. Tradehill's biggest mistake was accepting Dwolla without working with them first." [20:07]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=70042.msg814513#msg814513 [20:07]
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mircea_popescu i wonder how much he pretends to be in the know vs actualyl being in the know [20:07]
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extor cliffs notes version of the thread please [20:08]
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mircea_popescu you pretty much got them above. [20:08]
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jjjrmy-m rg: did you approve the ad yet? [20:09]
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NeedBTC someone able to change my 50€ PSC into BTC? [20:13]
kakobreklaa nelisky ^^ [20:13]
NeedBTC hi nelisky... [20:13]
NeedBTC iam the guy from the last one.. [20:13]
NeedBTC the "needhelp" guy. :) can you remember [20:13]
NeedBTC ? [20:13]
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NeedBTC aahh.. ok.. now i checked.. .thank you "kakobreklaa" [20:17]
NeedBTC i thought nelisky was answering me.. :) [20:17]
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NeedBTC sorry.. iam not very experienced here... [20:17]
NeedBTC since yet.. [20:17]
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james777 ;;rate bitcointrader 3 seems very trustworthy [20:19]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user bitcointrader has been recorded. [20:19]
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LordCanti Anyone here interested in selling BTC for $20 MoneyPak? [20:20]
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mircea_popescu still taking beta testers for MPEx. http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [20:21]
nelisky hey NeedBTC [20:22]
Ritardo I don't want to use this channel as tech support, but I am simply looking for a way to purchase bitcoins that doesn't rely on days and days of activation and transfers from banks that haven't even sent me invoices and it all seems a bit overwhelming when I all i want to do is trade money for bitcoins [20:23]
Loosey Buy a Moneypak [20:23]
Loosey And sell it here [20:23]
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Ritardo I've gone through pages and pages of information, is there any comprehensive page that will help me sort through simplifying this process (I'm a dumb American with USD) [20:24]
Loosey Did you not read what I said? [20:24]
Ritardo No, I did not. I was still typing, thanks. [20:24]
GlooBoy goto walgreens, buy a moneypak, sell it here [20:24]
Loosey No problem! Most people here are trustworthy [20:24]
Ritardo I do appreicate the advice, thanks again [20:25]
nanotube mircea_popescu: btw, why does signup require me to encrypt my key to your key? public keys are public info... [20:25]
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jcpham There is a 20BTC fixed fee for adding your public key to the MPEx. While in beta this fee is waived, so take advantage [20:25]
mircea_popescu nanotube just because im paranoid i guess. [20:25]
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mircea_popescu jcpham yea ? [20:26]
BTC_Bear mircea_popescu: What nano said, and a 20BTC fee? A onetime club membership fee? [20:26]
jcpham everyone should take advantage [20:26]
mircea_popescu BTC_Bear yes, something like that. [20:26]
james777 query nelisky are u available? [20:26]
mircea_popescu jcpham i fully agree. im going to go out of beta and people will whine about the fee. and i'll just point to these discussions and grin. [20:27]
james777 oops [20:27]
Loosey Still that seems a harsh fee [20:27]
mircea_popescu way better than what nyse charges. [20:27]
jcpham it was clearly stated at the onset [20:27]
a5m0 selling: 5970, 4 new yubikeys, dual 2.8ghz xeon pc [20:27]
Loosey Not complaining it's just (to me) 20btc is a lot [20:28]
BTC_Bear People won't complain about the fee, if you have the 'bells and whistles' for membership [20:28]
Loosey True that [20:28]
Loosey But they better be shiny ass bells [20:28]
BTC_Bear Cigar and Whiskey in the club house [20:28]
Loosey Well in that case.. [20:28]
mircea_popescu BTC_Bear just the ability to trade on teh tip top stock exchange in bitcoinland. [20:28]
jcpham 20btc is like my currently retirement benefits [20:28]
jcpham or my social security [20:28]
Loosey Haha [20:28]
Loosey I don't even have that so don't feel too bad [20:29]
nanotube maybe you can offer discounts for people with >X l1+l2 trust from you on otc, mircea_popescu :D [20:29]
mircea_popescu i was thinking i let those issue shares :p [20:29]
Loosey Trying to get a pair of headphones is proving way too challenging, the ones I want are like 30 dollars on Amazon and I still can't get, it's sad. [20:29]
jcpham interseting method for raising capital [20:30]
jcpham i like it! [20:30]
mircea_popescu which method you mean ? [20:30]
* gribble gives voice to BTC_Bear [20:30]
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BTC_Bear ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [20:30]
gribble Trust relationship from user T3mpn4me to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 13 via 9 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=T3mpn4me&dest=mircea_popescu [20:30]
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BTC_Bear What does that get me? hehe [20:31]
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mcorlett luke-jr: Just post it all over the net so that there's no reason for Mircea not to keep it in plaintext anymore. [20:31]
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nanotube BTC_Bear: you should gettrust /from/ mircea to you. just in case some links are asymmetrical. [20:31]
BTC_Bear ah... good point [20:31]
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jcpham will http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php become sexier [20:31]
jcpham at some point [20:32]
mircea_popescu BTC_Bear the right but not the obligation to send me your gpg public key and get some free stocks/coins to play with the beta ? [20:32]
Loosey I don't suppose anyone would sell me an Amazon gift card on payments? With 10% down... [20:32]
mircea_popescu jcpham unlikely. but i imagine it will get python scripts written for automation [20:32]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Will I have to pay the fee, even though I'm your bro? [20:32]
BTC_Bear Ok, not complaining btw. [20:32]
jcpham visually sexier [20:33]
mircea_popescu also, if you're into making sexy websites you can make a broker for it jcpham [20:33]
mircea_popescu mcorlett its waived for now, seeing how we're in beta. moreover you're already in iirc ? so no fees for you. COME BACK, 1 year! [20:33]
nanotube Loosey: so basically, you want a loan... pretty hard to get those without any rep. :P [20:33]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: How often do you do "gpg --refresh-keys" (if someone uses a key that expires but renews it, will that be a problem)? [20:34]
mircea_popescu i never refresh keys on the server. [20:34]
mircea_popescu in fact the gpg doesn't even get to talk to the internet. [20:34]
luke-jr fail [20:34]
nanotube you should refresh regularly, in case people's keys get revoked or expiration-extended. [20:34]
mircea_popescu so expired keys might indeed be a problem, will have to be replaced. [20:34]
* luke-jr usually waits until his key expires to renew it [20:35]
mircea_popescu nanotube i'd have to have some two stage process ;/ [20:35]
vragnaroda I usually set keys to expire after 90 days. [20:35]
mircea_popescu hm. [20:35]
mod6 yeah, my 4096 bit key will expire in 2014. [20:35]
nanotube mircea_popescu: should be simple enough. run refreshkeys on net-connected machine, then take the pubring.gpg and copy it over. [20:35]
mod6 i make new ones kinda often. [20:35]
luke-jr why would you make a new key? [20:36]
vragnaroda luke-jr: How long do you make it good for? [20:36]
mod6 I like exchange btw :D [20:36]
luke-jr I expire mine every year, and renew it. [20:36]
mircea_popescu pretty much something like that yes nanotube. currently not doing it but i guess it's one of the things will have to be implemented. [20:36]
nanotube luke-jr: maybe if he forgets the pw? ;) [20:36]
mod6 That too. It has happened ;) [20:36]
SerajewelKS i never expire the master key, but i will periodically revoke subkeys and issue new ones [20:36]
* luke-jr has a super long passphrase that he couldn't possibly forget anymore :p [20:36]
mircea_popescu forgetting gpg pw is imo the singularly stupidest thing one can do on computers. [20:36]
luke-jr SerajewelKS: the expiration is in case you lose the private key yourself ;) [20:37]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Well, most people don't rely on GPG for their common interactions with computers so that's a nonpoint. [20:37]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: well i have a rev cert carefully guarded in case that hapens [20:37]
SerajewelKS happens* [20:37]
mircea_popescu its a point in it's own way! [20:37]
mircea_popescu don't be a pointist [20:37]
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* vragnaroda points. [20:38]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: plus physical backup of the private key/subkeys [20:38]
luke-jr SerajewelKS: physical *remote* backup? ;) [20:38]
mod6 anyway, bfd. i remember when people thought 1024 bit keys were big. [20:38]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: physical backup in a fire safe and remote digital backup [20:38]
luke-jr my key is 1024-bit [20:38]
mod6 there you go :) [20:38]
vragnaroda ;;gpg info luke-jr [20:38]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: physical meaning on flash storage and printed as a qr-code [20:38]
gribble User 'luke-jr', with keyid 665FC11DD53E9583 and fingerprint CE5AD56A36CC69FAE7D23558665FC11DD53E9583, registered on Sun Mar 6 13:14:00 2011. Currently not authenticated. [20:38]
luke-jr created in 2002 [20:38]
luke-jr SerajewelKS: i c [20:38]
mod6 those have been vuln for a long time. [20:39]
luke-jr mod6: ? [20:39]
mircea_popescu how many times did it get craked rthat you know of luke-jr ? [20:39]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: i'm more worried that the keys on my laptop would be compromised [20:39]
vragnaroda luke-jr: Why 1024? [20:39]
luke-jr vragnaroda: dunno [20:39]
jcpham because it's from 2002 [20:39]
luke-jr mircea_popescu: never? [20:39]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: which is why i used --export-secret-subkeys from my secure box, so that the only danger is subkey compromise, which can be dealt with [20:39]
SerajewelKS the master private key is offline [20:40]
mod6 4096 bit keys are probably safe, for now. [20:40]
* luke-jr uses a different key for Bitcoin backups [20:40]
mod6 anything less, and I wont use. [20:40]
luke-jr mod6: srsly? [20:40]
vragnaroda Well, it's not really a big deal, but yeah, I'd change that if I were luke-jr. [20:40]
mod6 *nod* [20:40]
SerajewelKS luke-jr: yeah, i also have a backup key. the private keys exist only in physical form. makes it super-easy to 'gpg -e | ssh cat > ...' to make backups. [20:40]
luke-jr what's standard practice for that? just sign the new key with the old one? [20:40]
mod6 esp 1024 luke-jr, they broke those in like 2002-2003 era. [20:41]
SerajewelKS restoring backups will be a bit of a pain, but that's ok [20:41]
mod6 might have even been before. [20:41]
SerajewelKS mod6: i've only heard of 56-bit RSA being broken, and that was by brute force using a distributed network [20:41]
SerajewelKS if 1k RSA was broken, that's news to me [20:42]
luke-jr wtf [20:42]
luke-jr is 4096 the max? [20:42]
luke-jr why can't I use 32k so it's good for years? [20:42]
jcpham probably uses more than 640k of ram [20:43]
mod6 8192 should be valid. iirc. [20:43]
LordCanti SerajewelKS, I think you're thinking of 56 bit symetrical encryption [20:43]
LordCanti the best attack on RSA is on 768 bit [20:43]
SerajewelKS LordCanti: perhaps [20:43]
mod6 but 4096 should be good until 2014. at that point, check and reasses your security stuff, then make a new one if needed. [20:43]
LordCanti if wiki is accurate [20:43]
luke-jr (2) DSA and Elgamal ? [20:44]
mod6 yup [20:44]
SerajewelKS mod6: what kind of power is needed to execute this attack? [20:44]
luke-jr "DSA keys may be between 1024 and 3072 bits long." [20:44]
mod6 a variety of tactics SerajewelKS [20:44]
LordCanti mod6, when I create a key pair gpg only allows up to 4096 [20:44]
mod6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis [20:44]
SerajewelKS mod6: put it another way: how expensive is such an attack? [20:44]
mod6 LordCanti: they used to have it so you could make 8192 bit keys I thought. [20:45]
mod6 SerajewelKS: they do it every day. [20:45]
mod6 NSA is trying desperatly every minute to crack these keys. [20:45]
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SerajewelKS mod6: that does not answer my question [20:45]
gmaxwell SerajewelKS: DES (a 56 bit symmetric cipher) was cracked with bruteforce years ago, as part of a challenge put out by RSA labs. [20:45]
LordCanti mod6 wiki says best cryptanalysis for RSA is on 768, or are you referring to a different algo? [20:46]
mod6 Expensive.... So in regard to $ or CPU cycles, SerajewelKS? [20:46]
vragnaroda mod6: It's trivial to to make GPG do it if you're willing to build it yourself, but the it's just silly in most cases and isn't that much more effective. [20:46]
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mircea_popescu luke-jr : you're good to go. [20:46]
gmaxwell SerajewelKS: actual RSA-the-algorithim cracking involves the factoring of large near-prime numbers, and the sizes it works on have been increasing slowly over time. [20:46]
SerajewelKS mod6: either/both [20:46]
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gmaxwell SerajewelKS: a 56 bit factoring is something you could darn near do on pencil and paper. :) [20:47]
mod6 it does take a lot of both SerajewelKS, the NSA has both. [20:47]
mod6 they measure they're computing power in Acres. [20:47]
mod6 not teraflops or petaflops. [20:47]
SerajewelKS mod6: ok, then i'm less worried [20:47]
vragnaroda Jesus, the NSA has more important things to do. [20:47]
LordCanti they are building that new data center [20:47]
gmaxwell Though there is no particular reason to think kilobit rsa is insecure right now. The problem is sub-exponential but still gets much harder as the keysize grows. [20:47]
mod6 *shrug* :) [20:47]
LordCanti I'm still not worried [20:47]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't bet on that vragnaroda [20:47]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: You think they think it's worth their time to mess with your internet monies? [20:48]
mod6 vragnaroda: that is exactly what they do. crack keys. [20:48]
gmaxwell (I've personally factored a number of 512 bit near composites— its still sort of between hard and easy now) [20:48]
BTC_Bear Yea, the NSA is busy cracking the Congressmen's accounts to blackmail them into funding their new computer. [20:48]
neofutur not so sure "the NSA has more important things to do" they have to contribute good old open source code to the linux kernel ( I ll let you all wonder why the NSA do that) [20:48]
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luke-jr so is it possible to do 16384-bit RSA keys? [20:49]
mod6 na, that keyspace is too big for now iirc. [20:49]
vragnaroda neofutur: Thanks for taking the batshit crazy up a notch. [20:49]
neofutur if they have time contribute open source code to the linux kernel . . . they have time for other things too [20:49]
mod6 and it will take a while to gen a key that big too. [20:49]
neofutur you have an opinion on NSA [20:49]
Sublime_ I have a $250 mp if anyone is selling btc [20:49]
mod6 4096 luke-jr [20:49]
* vragnaroda passes out the tinfoil hats. [20:49]
neofutur i hope i can also have one [20:49]
luke-jr mod6: more memory for who? me or the people encrypting/verifying me? [20:49]
LordCanti I don't see anything that indicates that they are even close to cracking RSA -2048 or AES-256 [20:50]
* BTC_Bear will buy 2 tinfoil hats. Cause I know they will be needed. :) [20:50]
mod6 for you when you gen the key. for anyone to use a 16384 key, they will have to process with that also, thats not so bad. [20:50]
Sublime_ Im looking to buy 45 btc is anyone selling any? [20:50]
vragnaroda Jesus titty-fucking Christ, neofutur, *yes*, you can and have (many times) expressed an opinion. You have that right. You do *not* have the right to expect no one to call you on it. [20:50]
mod6 but to get enough entropy to make a key that big might take a while. [20:50]
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mircea_popescu vragnaroda nah, but they are guvrnment so they will by definition waste their time/money [20:51]
copumpkin gubermint [20:51]
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Sublime_ Haha apparently im in the wrong place to be buying btc? [20:51]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Yes, but that's because their priorities are stupid, not because they're out to get neofutur. [20:51]
neofutur sorry, i ll try to understand <+vragnarod> neofutur: Thanks for taking the batshit crazy up a notch [20:51]
neofutur i probably misunderstood [20:51]
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mod6 you found the right place Sublime_, we're discussing GPG sec now for a minute... [20:51]
mircea_popescu well... the two might coincide some day :D [20:52]
james777 ;;rate nelisky 7 most reliable guy to buy bitcoins from, bought a ton of btcs from him [20:52]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user nelisky has changed from 5 to 7. [20:52]
Sublime_ Im looking to buy 45 btc [20:52]
Sublime_ Can anyone help? [20:52]
benjamindees so which branch of the military were you in, vragnaroda ? [20:52]
BTC_Bear There is nothing wrong with a healthy dose of paranoia, but to much paranoia brings everything to a screeching halt. [20:52]
mod6 read all the links in /topic Sublime_ [20:52]
benjamindees (I'd guess navy) [20:52]
vragnaroda benjamindees: You'd guess wrong. [20:53]
vragnaroda Army. [20:53]
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benjamindees that's surprising actually [20:55]
vragnaroda Why's that surprising? [20:56]
benjamindees army isn't the smartest bunch [20:56]
BTC_Bear lol [20:56]
mircea_popescu nanotube : you're all set too. [20:56]
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mircea_popescu what the fuck does that mean, "Army isn't the smartest bunch" [20:58]
luke-jr nanotube: if I sign my new key, will gribble notice? [20:58]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: It means he's a fag. :p [20:59]
BTC_Bear Nah, it means he is a Marine [20:59]
mircea_popescu it's like, refusing to be seen by doctor cause he's blond. [20:59]
mircea_popescu and blonds are stupid as we all know. [20:59]
BTC_Bear male or female [20:59]
vragnaroda BTC_Bear: Nope. If that were the case, he wouldn't be calling the Army stupid. [20:59]
mircea_popescu nm teh sexism! this is an empowered chan! [21:00]
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Sublime_ I have a $250 moneypack card with the receipt and im looking for 45 btc [21:00]
copumpkin vragnaroda: how about those ads on TV where they show you a bunch of videogames and sci-fi shit and then tell you it's not sci-fi. Was that your experience? [21:00]
luke-jr It'd be nice if GnuPG gave me some kind of progress/percent indicator on the entropy gathering :P [21:00]
* luke-jr just leaves it going in the background <.< [21:00]
mircea_popescu that'd reduce entropy :D [21:00]
BTC_Bear Just saying, I'll see a blonde female doctor, but not a male one. What's wrong with personal preference. [21:00]
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LordCanti luke-jr: better to just leave it and do something else on your computer [21:01]
vragnaroda copumpkin: I don't think I ever saw such ads. [21:01]
LordCanti that enhances entropy [21:01]
copumpkin vragnaroda: wow, I've seen a lot of them [21:01]
luke-jr LordCanti: yeah, that's what I'm doing [21:01]
luke-jr decided to go with a 16kbit key [21:01]
mircea_popescu luke-jr is perusing porn. that entropies. [21:01]
LordCanti how long is it taking? [21:01]
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Sublime_ :( Nobody has btc for sale? [21:01]
luke-jr LordCanti: I should have run it in 'time' [21:01]
mod6 luke-jr: not always does more bits = more secure. [21:01]
luke-jr I guess starting at 3 PM exactly helps [21:02]
LordCanti hmmm [21:02]
vragnaroda copumpkin: That said, the technology used by the Army today would probably look like scifi to someone familiar with the equivalents from a generation ago. [21:02]
luke-jr mod6: 16kbit isn't more secure than 8kbit? [21:02]
phraust MAGIC! [21:02]
BTC_Bear Sublime_: Lay out your case, don't ask to ask, and don't PM, "Hey". [21:02]
mod6 well, yes, it /should/ be, but that doesn't mean that it /is/ [21:02]
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mod6 there could be the same problems with an algorithem that makes it succeptable to attack at a lower key size, just as with a larger key size. [21:03]
Sublime_ And how do you start your pms off btc bear? [21:03]
mircea_popescu he always sends tits first. [21:03]
Sublime_ Id say hey is a pretty fair way to great somebody [21:03]
mod6 I bought and read this book many times over the last 10 years, if you really want to get into crypto here is how: [21:03]
mod6 http://www.schneier.com/book-applied.html [21:03]
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mcorlett It's a great way to great somebody. [21:04]
mod6 bought once, read many. hah. whoops. [21:04]
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vragnaroda [19:03] < Sublime_> | Id say hey is a pretty fair way to great somebody <-- It doesn't matter if you think it's fair; it's rude. [21:04]
mod6 here is a link to amazon copy: [21:04]
mod6 http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Cryptography-Protocols-Algorithms-Source/dp/0471117099 [21:04]
nanotube luke-jr: gribble doesn't care about key signatures... [21:04]
vragnaroda If you know someone, it may be OK, but you shouldn't open a conversation with a stranger like that. [21:05]
luke-jr nanotube: how do I tell gribble to use a new key? [21:06]
mircea_popescu ya actually im curious about that too nanotube, how do you handle revoked keys for g ? [21:06]
nanotube there's changekey command, luke-jr [21:07]
Sublime_ And how is hey rude? Just curious... [21:07]
nanotube if your key is revoked/expires before you do that, then you have to bug me manually. [21:07]
nanotube so... don't let that happen :) [21:07]
mod6 make a backup [21:07]
copumpkin vragnaroda: oh, it was air force, sorry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg9K1mCh65U [21:07]
copumpkin talk about appealing to gamers [21:08]
luke-jr nanotube: well, can always extend the expiration :p [21:08]
vragnaroda Sublime_: How is “fuck you” rude? Taken literally, it seems flattering. [21:08]
copumpkin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiB3vrhPDNs [21:08]
Sublime_ Right.. "fuck you" and "hey" great analogy... [21:09]
mircea_popescu lmao fuck you is flattering. [21:09]
nanotube luke-jr: yes you can, and gribble will automatically refresh keys periodically and pick that up. [21:09]
vragnaroda That *is* a great analogy. [21:09]
mod6 depends on who says it and how huh mircea_popescu ;) [21:09]
copumpkin vragnaroda: I'm just talking about the graphics making it look like a videogame [21:10]
LordCanti he was flattering her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTQzCH47dIU [21:10]
mircea_popescu mod6 pretty much, yea. vragnaroda pretty much, yea. [21:10]
nanotube luke-jr: 16kbit? you have to recompile gpg for that right? [21:10]
mod6 heheh :) [21:10]
luke-jr nanotube: you have to recompile gpg to go over 4kbit ;P [21:10]
mircea_popescu methinks copumpkin is considering a tour in the force. [21:10]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: hah, no [21:10]
nanotube luke-jr: ah ic. [21:10]
luke-jr nanotube: but it sounds like 16kbit is the safest max for other people to interact [21:10]
vragnaroda Language/culture groups have protocols for initiating communication with strangers and in most of the Anglosphere, “hey” violates that protocol. [21:11]
nanotube ah so stock gpg won't complain about 16kbit keys, it just don't make them? [21:11]
LordCanti will standard installations of gpg even handle keys of that size? [21:11]
mod6 yeah, i think you used to be able to do 8192 by default, but that was a long time ago. [21:11]
copumpkin I'm actually not allowed to serve in the army [21:11]
copumpkin which is fine by me [21:11]
luke-jr nanotube: right [21:11]
mod6 and one thing to remember about a super big key... if someone sees this... they might think, "why does this guy need a key so large?" [21:11]
mod6 "maybe i should try to break that one first" [21:11]
mod6 try to blend in a bit. [21:12]
luke-jr mod6: shrug, I just want something futureproof [21:12]
mod6 4096 [21:12]
mod6 maybe 8192 if you want to recompile and have a large cock. [21:12]
mod6 :D [21:12]
luke-jr I'll use 16kbit for my master, and make subkeys with 4096 or 8192 [21:12]
mircea_popescu there is nothing futureproof. [21:12]
luke-jr ;) [21:12]
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mod6 there you go! :D [21:12]
Sublime_ I have a $250 moneypack with the receipt for 45 btc [21:12]
vragnaroda copumpkin: Why's that? [21:12]
mod6 (brb) [21:13]
copumpkin vragnaroda: dual citizens are apparently not allowed to serve in the US armed forces at all, or have any sort of job that requires a security clearance [21:13]
vragnaroda copumpkin: That's not true. [21:13]
copumpkin http://www.immigrationedge.com/2011/10/26/us-army-bars-dual-us-citizens-from-most-jobs/ [21:13]
copumpkin not all army jobs, I guess :) [21:14]
copumpkin but still, I'm just not cool enough [21:14]
copumpkin also, if santorum gets his way I'll be flaming so they won't let me into the army [21:14]
helo wtf [21:15]
copumpkin if only all the vietnam draft avoiders had known that instead of injuring themselves or faking intelligence tests, they could've just pretended to be gay [21:15]
helo https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-uk-student-to-be-extradited-to-the-us-120313/ [21:15]
vragnaroda copumpkin: Most Army jobs do not require a security clearance (or rather, they don't require ‘permanent’ ones that they do investigations and stuff for, but dual citizens still get ‘interim’ clearances according to the needs of a mission; they just don't last). [21:15]
copumpkin ah [21:15]
nanotube vragnaroda: btw, not unlikely that nsa probably does have farms working on cracking particular target pgp keys, unless they have discovered how to factor large numbers efficiently and don't even need the farms. :) i wouldn't say that it's "batshit crazy" to think that they might. [21:15]
* copumpkin takes note and sends a message back to his contact in mother russia [21:16]
gmaxwell It doesn't help that almost no one uses PFS with SSL. [21:16]
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gmaxwell So cracking a single key can give you a TON of data. [21:16]
vragnaroda nanotube: That they're working on cracking PGP keys is a given. That their goal in doing that is to steal your internet monies and impersonate *you* is. [21:16]
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copumpkin (not) [21:16]
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vragnaroda Well, I elided [batshit] there. [21:17]
vragnaroda In hindsight, I shouldn't have. [21:17]
helo ;;rate copumpkin 10 russian spy [21:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user copumpkin has been recorded. [21:17]
copumpkin lol [21:17]
rg who wants to buy a 14k gold ring [21:18]
rg ? [21:18]
nanotube vragnaroda: hm, i didn't see anyone say they thought /our/ gpg keys are targeted. only that /some/ keys must be targeted. or did i miss that bit? [21:18]
rg ill sell it for 20 BTC + shipping [21:18]
vragnaroda nanotube: The context of being worried about it and -otc. [21:18]
LordCanti I would think that the NSA would first be using their new farms to brute force the encryption of suspected terrorists [21:19]
LordCanti and even then it will be a very difficult procedure [21:19]
nanotube vragnaroda: well, you never know when you might become the target. :) certainly it won't be /because/ you're on otc throwing a few bitcoins around. [21:19]
luke-jr some country should declare that all US citizens are automatically citizens there too. [21:19]
copumpkin if they have enough money with current algorithms, 1024 _might_ be possible within our lifetimes :P 2048 is completely insane [21:19]
pigeons assuming there are no shortuts to be discovered [21:20]
pigeons *shortcuts [21:20]
benjamindees luke-jr, iran ;) [21:20]
rg date [21:20]
gmaxwell copumpkin: well, they may have improvements on the optical sieve — if so, that makes 1024 pretty realistic. [21:20]
LordCanti 768 is the highest they've gotten [21:20]
LordCanti so far [21:20]
rg 9 days left in the month and we already matched last months new sign ups [21:20]
rg not bad [21:20]
vragnaroda LordCanti: *published [21:20]
LordCanti I mean, 1024 WILL be cracked [21:20]
LordCanti yes, true [21:20]
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rg even if every computer in america contributed CPU/GPU shares [21:21]
neofutur and I just said "not so sure" [21:21]
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rg 2048 is .. [21:21]
rg not reachable [21:21]
LordCanti but that's still a lifetime from 2048 and 4096 [21:21]
rg probably close tho [21:21]
neofutur how can "not so sure" mean I m paranoid ? I cant doubt saying "not so sure" ? [21:21]
mircea_popescu haha proud to announce RECORD VOLUME DAY!!111 like almost 600 imaginary shares changed hands today on MPEx [21:21]
copumpkin rg: with current algorithms, 2048 is not even close to being close [21:22]
copumpkin there'd need to be major asymptotic improvements before 2048 becomes remotely feasible [21:22]
mircea_popescu what's an asymptotic improvement ? [21:22]
rg youd need the data to crack it too [21:22]
mod6 LordCanti: http://techie-buzz.com/tech-news/1024-bit-rsa-cracked.html [21:22]
rg wihch would take some time [21:22]
mod6 For about a decade they have been known to be basically to small to be trusted, when you can use a 2048 just as easily. [21:23]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: big-O? talking about the time/space consumption of algorithms in terms of functions of their inputs [21:23]
rg wow [21:23]
rg that crack is cool [21:23]
copumpkin or theta or omega, if you're more esoteric [21:23]
rg ive seen that method used for other things [21:23]
mircea_popescu a ok [21:23]
mod6 There are many other methods of cryptanalysis other than brute-force too. [21:23]
gmaxwell No.. thats not a crack on 1024 bit rsa. [21:23]
mod6 That book I posted a link to describes many of them. [21:23]
gmaxwell Thats stupid fault induction.. which is .. interesting but not that useful. [21:23]
copumpkin yeah [21:24]
pigeons drthodt wants you to know the nsa have the quantum computer from the roswell crash that can crack them with nvidia 680 [21:24]
luke-jr gmaxwell: ? [21:24]
gmaxwell luke-jr: the idea is you flip a bit of memory in the computer, and it manages to leak data that lets you recover the private key. [21:24]
vragnaroda pigeons: lol [21:24]
rg luke-jr: bend me break me anyway you need me all i want is you [21:24]
gmaxwell It's a useful attack on smartcards— where you can do evil things to them while they run—, not really useful against anything else. [21:24]
mod6 well, dwave's qc is being sold now commerically. the NSA could have simply bought one, just the same as you or I. [21:25]
* helo is happy to see his key is 4096 [21:25]
mod6 They're only $10M, which is nothing concidering what it should be able to accomplish. [21:25]
copumpkin mod6: you need a slightly larger quantum computer to do anything remotely threatening with it [21:25]
copumpkin ;) [21:25]
gmaxwell mod6: No, dwave's "qc" is not a quantum computer by the language used by academics— in particular, it's completely inapplicable to cryptography. [21:25]
mod6 you only need 3 qbits to make a CCNOT gate. [21:25]
mod6 they have 128 qubits. [21:25]
rg so wait [21:26]
copumpkin zomg [21:26]
gmaxwell mod6: dwave's thing doesn't have a CCNOT gate. [21:26]
rg you mean this DES key i use for everything is no good anymore? [21:26]
copumpkin that's over 90!1!!11! [21:26]
mod6 gmaxwell: right, it is yet to be seen. [21:26]
luke-jr Fatal error: Cannot allocate memory [21:26]
luke-jr wtf [21:26]
copumpkin luke-jr: get moar memory, duh [21:26]
vragnaroda luke-jr: What are you doing? [21:26]
rg luke-jr: shoulda used bitvps(tm) [21:26]
mod6 point being, this stuff is becoming a reality. [21:26]
luke-jr vragnaroda: 16kbit keygen [21:26]
vragnaroda *WHY*? [21:27]
gmaxwell It only solves a particular class of energy minimization problems, one which — in fact— has not even been proven to be faster on QC than on classical computers. They've also failed to show any entanglement is involved in their process at all. [21:27]
copumpkin mod6: not sure I'd agree, from a cryptographic perspective at least [21:27]
gmaxwell mod6: Your data doesn't support your point. [21:27]
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gmaxwell Dwave's thing is a tangent— not progress towards something useful for cryptography. [21:27]
mod6 Ok :) [21:27]
gmaxwell (not that progress isn't happening, it is— I suppose— just dwave is not an example of it) [21:27]
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mod6 IBM has a huge QC undertaking as well as many other places. [21:28]
gmaxwell IBM's work is interesting sure. [21:28]
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mod6 everyone is trying to get there as fast as they can. they see what it means. just because the results arnt quite what they want yet, doesn't mean they'll stop trying. [21:28]
mod6 its like looking for the higgs, they'll keep trying. [21:29]
helo it will kind of be nice once we see threats to bitcoin's crypto and move to a new kind [21:29]
helo we will get to see how many coins are orphaned :) [21:29]
mod6 yup, little bit of yaaaaaaaaaaaar! treasure hunting! [21:30]
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Sublime_ I have a $250 moneypack with the receipt to trade for btc [21:30]
Sublime_ PM me if interested [21:30]
helo Sublime_: we encourage people to parrot no more frequently than every 30 minutes [21:31]
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rg why doesnt anyone want my gold? [21:32]
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rg luke-jr: i got a gold ring you can use for your next marriage [21:32]
nanotube rg: i'll start the bidding at 1btc. :) [21:32]
helo perhaps because there's no crypto chain indicating its value... [21:32]
LordCanti mod6, thanks for the article [21:32]
rg nanotube: 20BTC + shipping [21:32]
mod6 LordCanti: no prob man. [21:32]
pigeons make me a grill rg [21:32]
rg its 3.7g of 14k gold [21:33]
helo is it? [21:33]
nanotube rg: yes i saw your asking price :) [21:33]
copumpkin rg: I'm sure coingenuity would want it [21:33]
copumpkin he's a gold-ho [21:33]
mcorlett rg: You can sell it to Coinabul. (cc: coingenuity) [21:33]
rg yeah hes afk [21:33]
vragnaroda rg: Or reeses but he doesn't like you. [21:33]
copumpkin lol [21:33]
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rg no one ever said you had to like the people you do business with [21:34]
reeses i don’t touch gold [21:34]
copumpkin yeah, reeses needs a new cockring [21:34]
BTC_Bear copumpkin: what are saying [21:34]
reeses ≥Pt [21:34]
BTC_Bear small dick or big fingers [21:34]
LordCanti mod6, if I understand it, this required physical access to the "sender" end to impliment [21:34]
pigeons the old one is not satisfactory to copumpkin [21:34]
copumpkin BTC_Bear: clearly rg has very big fingers [21:34]
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BTC_Bear lol [21:35]
* rg stops before he says what he was going to [21:35]
mcorlett rg: You have to tell us now! [21:35]
rg nah [21:35]
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rg cause you guys are breaking the rules [21:35]
vragnaroda This really isn't going a direction it should and I admire rg's restraint. [21:35]
rg and im trying to abstain from such things [21:35]
* vragnaroda gives rg a cookie. [21:35]
rg i decided to start acting like an adult [21:36]
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rg (from 12pm to 12am) [21:36]
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nanotube rg++ :) [21:36]
mod6 LordCanti: yeah, this is not so elegant. [21:36]
LordCanti but it is something [21:37]
rg see, if i jhad said what i was going to say, this conversation would be out of control [21:37]
rg hehe [21:37]
* rg wants coffee [21:37]
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mcorlett Breaking the law, breaking the law... [21:37]
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* rg puts on his leather suit [21:37]
mod6 I was convinced that there was some chosen-plantext attacks against it that were known to work. [21:37]
vragnaroda Oh sweet. I just found a thing of AAs. I was going to have to buy some more today but now I don't have to. [21:37]
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vinhpk ;;gpg eauth vinhpk [21:37]
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nanotube mod6: that's the reason gpg uses separate keys for signing and encryption. if you use one key for both, there is a chosen-plaintext attack on the key. as i recall reading somewhere. :) [21:38]
reeses vragnaroda: those costco/home depot 9,000 packs are awesome [21:38]
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vinhpk WTS bitcoin via paypal or libertyreserve [21:39]
mod6 ahh, thanks nanotube. [21:39]
mod6 Anyway all, that book is a good read if you wanna get really into cryto. :) [21:40]
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mod6 *crypto [21:40]
copumpkin omgcrypto [21:40]
LordCanti but it's not a full on attack [21:40]
LordCanti meaning, they can't say conclusively that they can see a 1024 bit provate key and deduce the public key in a feasible amount of time [21:41]
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mod6 Think of it like a 0day. How long would a solution be used before being made public? [21:42]
benjamindees oh good, I see we're slowly returning back to reality where cracking 1024 bit RSA is not something done over the weekend by a determined hobbyist... [21:42]
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vragnaroda lol [21:42]
mod6 benjamindees: No one suggested that it was simple or something done over a weekend. [21:42]
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vragnaroda mod6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole [21:43]
rg ;;quote add rg++ :) [21:44]
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mcorlett ;;quote [21:47]
benjamindees personally I stick with more realistic paranoia such as software defects and hardware backdoors [21:47]
benjamindees installed by CIA agents [21:48]
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rg benjamindees: theyre coming to get you [21:53]
reeses pirate will rent you gpumax to have it done in a weekend [21:53]
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rg that'd be awesome if gpumax could crack hashes too [21:57]
rg itd never happen [21:57]
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reeses you’re not too bright, are you? [21:58]
ZoZo- ;;guide [21:58]
rg no, apparently not [21:58]
rg but do explain [21:58]
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ZoZo- Oh, this looks nice! :) [22:00]
rg im talking about a different thing entirely, gpumax would create their own packs [22:00]
rg they'd have to contain different crackers, or rip them all into one [22:00]
rg for the nodes [22:00]
rg i dont know how youd bill something like that [22:00]
rg eventully youd have to realize that its not going to crack any time soon [22:01]
ZoZo- GPG is something I really should read up on is it not? [22:01]
Sublime_ I have a $250 moneypack with the receipt for btc message me if interested [22:01]
rg ZoZo-: GPG Is good [22:01]
ZoZo- rg Is it needed when trading with Bitcoins here? :) [22:01]
rg you really only need to learn its basic functionality if your goal is only to trade here [22:01]
ZoZo- Buying* [22:01]
ZoZo- Okay! I'll get right on the wiki then :) [22:01]
rg ah its not required but its definitely encouraged and you should do it it [22:01]
ZoZo- I'm on it then :) [22:02]
ZoZo- Thank you! [22:02]
rg not a problem [22:02]
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Sublime_ Ill buy btc at 5.4 [22:04]
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rg mmm [22:04]
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rg could you imagine a massive gpu/cpu cracking net like GPUmax [22:04]
rg i alreadyd know of one place, but it doesnt cost money [22:05]
rg you get credits for joining your crackers and in return you get to submit your own hashes [22:05]
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helo mmm crackers [22:06]
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bonks Any reputable rig rentals? [22:15]
jcpham hrm [22:15]
neofutur benjamindees: you l like : http://grsecurity.net/~spender/exploits/exploit2.txt [22:16]
neofutur (where having SELinux enabled actually increases your risk against a [22:16]
neofutur large class of kernel vulnerabilities) [22:16]
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BTC_Bear bonks: gpumax will sell hashing time to you. [22:16]
bonks BTC_Bear: i dont have an account [22:17]
jcpham yes i was gonna say... [22:17]
jcpham what are you looking to rent bonks? [22:17]
jcpham and for how long? [22:17]
rg neofutur: does that article take into account RBAC? [22:18]
bonks jcpham: well I want to see my options, if it made more sense to rent than build [22:18]
jcpham surely some poor starving miner will take your money [22:18]
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neofutur rg: afaik yes, but better ask on #grsecurity on oftc network [22:20]
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neofutur and its pretty old, just an example of "software defects and hardware backdoors" to tell benjamindees he s not paranoid :p [22:20]
neofutur this one is interesting, the backdoor in selinux could only be exploited if you had the good gcc and the good libc [22:21]
neofutur pretty much sophisticated [22:21]
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bonks jcpham: yeah. if mining is profitable, then why would miners rent them [22:22]
neofutur ( more on #bitcoin-hosting, pretty much offtopic here ;) [22:22]
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vragnaroda bonks: Because of risk. [22:23]
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matthew_ looking to buy bulk bitcoin for MP. anyone interested? [22:23]
vragnaroda If you're willing to accept the risk of future declines in bitcoin value, and someone that actually owns the hardware isn't, he'd value renting it out more. [22:23]
jcpham i only have 3 rigs and don't want to share [22:24]
ZoZo- ;;getrating bitcoinTrader [22:24]
jcpham "poor starving miner" was joke. or not really because everyone knows a real miner is emaciated because all $ is reinvested in more hardware [22:25]
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vragnaroda Information assymetry is profitable to someone usually. [22:25]
bonks well if any poor starving miner wants to sell some time let me know what you can offer [22:26]
jcpham i like edge cases myself [22:26]
smickles bonks: want me to make a gpumax purchase for you? [22:27]
djoot ;;view [22:30]
gribble #7260 Thu Mar 22 13:27:26 2012 djoot SELL 10.0 BTC @ 32.204 SEK (bank transfer or cash, 10BTC or more) [22:30]
mcorlett http://jon.oberheide.org/blog/2011/03/07/how-i-almost-won-pwn2own-via-xss/ [22:30]
matthew_ anyone accepting MoneyPak? [22:30]
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draco49 Happy Thursday ppl :) [22:32]
BTC_Bear 'tis a happy Thursday. :) [22:33]
smickles ;;ticker [22:33]
gribble Best bid: 4.73896, Best ask: 4.73999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00103, Last trade: 4.73999, 24 hour volume: 39942, 24 hour low: 4.7, 24 hour high: 4.88 [22:33]
bonks smickles: i dont know what gpumax is, didnt get an invite yet =/ [22:35]
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mircea_popescu nice link there mcorlett [22:39]
draco49 bonks: gpumax is a sort of hash-power aggregation service. You can rent or sell hash power for mining through them. [22:40]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: I would've laughed my ass off if he managed to win Pwn2Own with a XSS attack. [22:41]
mircea_popescu especially something THAT LAME OMFG [22:41]
jcpham that was a good read mcorlett [22:41]
jcpham more reason why i don't like the android market [22:41]
coingenuity rg copumpkin mcorlett you guys are right, coinabul does pay out BTC For gold... whether it's a good time to cash in is up to you, i'd say hold until we break $1750 again [22:41]
jcpham i like it but i don't [22:41]
jcpham silver is going to $500/oz [22:42]
jcpham just wait! [22:42]
coingenuity my bet is that we'll see $100 in ~2-5yr ;) [22:42]
mircea_popescu not in usd coingenuity [22:42]
mircea_popescu in euros maybe, in rmb for sure [22:42]
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vragnaroda lol [22:42]
mircea_popescu but the dollar is never seeing anything less than 1k for gold this century. [22:42]
copumpkin coingenuity: $100 for gold? [22:42]
Joric motherf... $4.67 [22:43]
coingenuity copumpkin: on silver [22:43]
copumpkin oh [22:43]
copumpkin lol [22:43]
jcpham i mentioned silver, sorry [22:43]
draco49 whatsup coingenuity [22:43]
coingenuity :) it will catch up to gold, is my supposition [22:43]
copumpkin when coingenuity speaks, I tune out everyone else [22:43]
coingenuity heya draco49 just got up [22:43]
copumpkin sorry [22:43]
coingenuity lol copumpkin its cuz your nicks are so similar [22:43]
mcorlett Another post from the same author on how he scored $189,487.49 in Panera Bread gift cards: http://jon.oberheide.org/blog/2009/04/15/panera-gift-card-security/ [22:43]
coingenuity our* [22:43]
ZoZo- ;;getrating bitcoinTrader [22:44]
coingenuity mcorlett: XFD [22:44]
coingenuity that is just a little awesome [22:44]
luke-jr some retard sell big again? [22:44]
draco49 coingenuity, I got that Pamp silver bar yesterday. It looks great! [22:45]
jcpham down the rabbit hole [22:45]
coingenuity oh, im glad it showed up draco49 :) it's one of my favs, tbh [22:45]
coingenuity i <3 those 50gr, if the 100gr were consistently available/in good quality assay packaging i'd buy them instead :) [22:45]
coingenuity btw, draco49 no problems opening your box? [22:47]
draco49 nope [22:47]
coingenuity yours was one of the first 5 using our newer more-secure shipping method, just wanted to make sure :) glad to hear it [22:47]
Ukto more secure? [22:48]
Ukto extra tape? :P [22:48]
coingenuity the idea is that even a sketchy customs worker / mail man wont be able to open it in less than a minute or two with his razorblade [22:48]
Ukto pad locked steel box? [22:48]
Ukto :P [22:48]
draco49 The packaging was clean, professional, and unsuspecting. [22:48]
coingenuity :) excellent, as long as you didn't have a big PITA getting into the box i'm happy :) [22:49]
draco49 Not at all. [22:49]
coingenuity perfect :) [22:49]
jcpham i liked the bubble wrap myself [22:49]
jcpham and little sticker [22:49]
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coingenuity excellent, excellent....considering my staff dont like taking the time to do it and i make them ;) [22:50]
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draco49 coingenuity, you should make your employees witness you taking a machete to the arm of a thief... just so they know never to steal :P [22:51]
coingenuity XD draco49 tbh i dont think any of my staff would be ballsy enough to steal from me [22:52]
copumpkin coingenuity: are you a big guy? [22:52]
coingenuity i also keep a very, very close eye on everyone [22:52]
smickles even mee? [22:52]
coingenuity i'm not big draco49 but i'm not your average geek :) [22:52]
* mircea_popescu sends the girls to suck up to coingenuity and steal his metals. [22:52]
coingenuity especially your fine behind, smickles [22:52]
smickles :D [22:53]
coingenuity dw mircea_popescu i only keep less than attractive women on staff for that reason >.> [22:53]
coingenuity <.< [22:53]
draco49 you should go "New Jack City" on them... armed guards in the "mailroom", everyone shirtless [22:53]
unreal-dude remember, it is more human to be a theif than to be punished for being a theif! sayly..... [22:53]
mircea_popescu lolz [22:53]
unreal-dude *sadly [22:53]
stochastic_ walks around the office with an AK [22:53]
mircea_popescu ak is horrible office gear. [22:53]
unreal-dude s/human/humane [22:53]
coingenuity draco49: it's not /that/ far off [22:53]
draco49 lol [22:53]
coingenuity i have armed security and a gun sitting a foot away [22:53]
coingenuity >.> [22:53]
copumpkin coingenuity: how did you get into the precious metals business? [22:53]
jcpham i'd be strapped for sure [22:54]
coingenuity copumpkin: i've been into PM since i was little, basically [22:54]
mircea_popescu so the person that guesses the exact number of comments i got on my blog past month gets 0.that many bitcoins. go. [22:54]
coingenuity 138 [22:54]
plato WTB an Eve Online timecode [22:54]
mircea_popescu moar. [22:54]
coingenuity 789 [22:54]
jcpham over 9000 [22:54]
mircea_popescu moar. [22:54]
draco49 3 total [22:54]
mircea_popescu les.. [22:54]
coingenuity lol [22:54]
stochastic_ 7 [22:55]
mircea_popescu less than 9k lol [22:55]
copumpkin coingenuity: ah [22:55]
unreal-dude plato PLEX or GTC? [22:55]
mircea_popescu no stochastic_ , moar than 789 [22:55]
draco49 I'm sticking with 3. [22:55]
draco49 ;P [22:55]
mircea_popescu you're a hater :D [22:55]
matthew_ looking to buy BTC for MP. anyone interested? [22:55]
coingenuity i.e copumpkin i tried to get my family to lend me some thousands for gold when i was 10 and it was only at $400ish...but nope, wouldn't do it, so i've had to get into it on my own ever since :) [22:55]
copumpkin aw [22:55]
jcpham goldbug [22:56]
copumpkin poor baby coingenuity [22:56]
mircea_popescu srsly, goldbaby [22:56]
draco49 lol do you know how many "I told you so" moments i've had with my parents? [22:56]
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coingenuity same for palladium @ $100, they wouldnt do that either [22:56]
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coingenuity same with google private offering at $50 [22:56]
coingenuity whatevs [22:56]
mircea_popescu and uranium, and plutonium, and cessium [22:56]
coingenuity and yep draco49 i think that must be the nature of having parents lmao [22:56]
Joric_ did anyone watch today's southpark? [22:56]
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coingenuity indeed i did Joric [22:56]
coingenuity it was funny :) [22:56]
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draco49 When Blockbuster was brand-new back in the early 80's, my dad could have bought as many franchises as he wanted for $10k each and he turned it down. [22:57]
mcorlett When Bitcoin was brand-new back in 2009... [22:57]
mircea_popescu i don't believe in doing business with parents. [22:57]
coingenuity yeah, franchising can be sketchy though, gotta know how to get out early [22:57]
draco49 In 1992 when EA was trading at $2-3/share, I told him to buy them and he didn't. [22:58]
Joric today's southpark is all about buying gold and stuff [22:58]
coingenuity mircea_popescu: ofuckno i learned my lesson when i was 10 LOL [22:58]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Parents are the best business partners! [22:58]
mircea_popescu doing business with sex partners might be ok, but even that's iffy. [22:58]
stochastic_ try to franchise in small towns, in many of them only one guy owns all the franchises [22:58]
stochastic_ once you get a franchise of like subway the guy will buy you out [22:58]
draco49 The can be great $$ partners, but don't let them make decisions. [22:58]
mcorlett Joric: If it's about gold, there has to be at least one reference to Jews, no? [22:59]
coingenuity true that draco49 [22:59]
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draco49 Of course they'll be a "Jew" reference... most like involving Cartman and Kyle [22:59]
Joric mcorlett, none [22:59]
coingenuity but then again...i dont really let anyone else make decisions anyway ;) [22:59]
bruzum 7/j #bitcoin-fishmonger [22:59]
coingenuity yeah, not really mcorlett :) [22:59]
mcorlett Alpha male coingenuity [23:00]
Joric there were no jew references at all, first time [23:00]
coingenuity mcorlett: its more that people try to do stupid things [23:00]
mircea_popescu so anyone got a link to a html5 version of that sp episode ? [23:00]
mcorlett Joric: New writers? [23:00]
mircea_popescu i haven't watched sp in months [23:00]
coingenuity html5? [23:00]
coingenuity :O [23:00]
mircea_popescu yes. html5. [23:00]
Joric http://www.southparkstudios.com it's online [23:00]
draco49 what's wrong with southparkstudios.com? [23:01]
mircea_popescu tghat asks me to get adobe flash player. [23:01]
mircea_popescu ie, it's not html5. [23:01]
mircea_popescu it's flash bs. [23:01]
draco49 So do it! [23:01]
stochastic_ depends on the country you connect from [23:01]
mircea_popescu never. [23:01]
mircea_popescu eh ?! [23:01]
draco49 come mircea_popescu, you know you wanna install Flash! [23:01]
coingenuity ill agree with that, i dont watch any video in brwoser >.< [23:01]
mircea_popescu i never had flash and i never will have flash. [23:02]
coingenuity it also drops my hashrate by half even running a flash vid [23:02]
mircea_popescu why don't you install activex [23:02]
Joric html5 is like twice slower than flash for me [23:02]
jcpham it's too choppy for me because my gpu is 99% [23:02]
Joric i hate html5 videos [23:02]
jcpham why is all my video CHOPPY RAge [23:02]
draco49 Well don't use it on your mining rig! [23:02]
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mircea_popescu i never saw choppy vids. [23:02]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Don't you have pirated DVD stores on every corner over there in Romania? [23:02]
mircea_popescu mcorlett nope [23:02]
mcorlett I'm sure they can hook you up. [23:02]
mircea_popescu o, if i could be bothered to sure, i could find it. but... meh. [23:03]
Joric frankly i'm surprised why most videos in the net are still ipad incompartible [23:03]
plato unreal-dude: GTC i think. my account is not active now so plex won't work [23:03]
mircea_popescu frankly im surprised ipads still exist. [23:04]
coingenuity same mircea_popescu [23:04]
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jcpham i have yet to own an ianything [23:04]
draco49 That's because iOS is disturbingly unsupported... [23:04]
coingenuity its like a paperweight combined with a TV fake computer [23:04]
mircea_popescu i mean, the previous i whatever the fuck walkman thingy blesfully dissapeared already [23:04]
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vragnaroda [21:02] < Joric> | html5 is like twice slower than flash for me <-- ‘twice’ doesn't really work there. :p [23:04]
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draco49 lol @ vragnaroda [23:04]
mircea_popescu twice slower!!11 [23:04]
Joric definately, vragnaroda [23:04]
coingenuity mircea_popescu: fuck off, that was the ONLY ok thing apple has ever done, seriously [23:05]
vragnaroda Joric: *definitely [23:05]
mircea_popescu omg he's trolling him lmao [23:05]
mircea_popescu coingenuity THAT is my point. [23:05]
mcorlett vragnaroda: Thrice? [23:05]
stochastic_ half as fast [23:05]
jcpham vragnaroda I'm sure your wrong [23:05]
mircea_popescu no, half as quick. [23:05]
coingenuity oooooh i thought you were saying it was bad, /me is still waking up [23:05]
mcorlett double the slowness [23:05]
mircea_popescu its twolasses than! [23:05]
coingenuity i have to give apple props, ipod classic is a great device [23:05]
draco49 I believe it's either "half as fast" or "twice as slow". [23:06]
mircea_popescu twice as rapid you mean [23:06]
mircea_popescu half as velociturian. [23:06]
mcorlett coingenuity: That 1.8" drive was fascinating back in the day. [23:06]
vragnaroda draco49: Or ‘two times slower’ [23:06]
coingenuity lol, yeah [23:06]
draco49 yeah [23:07]
mircea_popescu hit me baby one more time [23:07]
mircea_popescu slower [23:07]
coingenuity its just a shame they applied those build practices to computers [23:07]
* vragnaroda hits mircea_popescu. [23:07]
coingenuity or "doubly slow" [23:07]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen zozo- [23:07]
gribble zozo- was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 23 minutes and 11 seconds ago: ;;getrating bitcoinTrader [23:07]
helo get low [23:07]
* vragnaroda smacks coingenuity. [23:07]
coingenuity from the window [23:07]
coingenuity TO THE WALL [23:07]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda hits like a girl. [23:07]
vragnaroda To be fair, Apple's the only one taking tablets half seriously. [23:07]
draco49 WHAT! [23:07]
Joric twice seriously! [23:08]
mircea_popescu tablets could have a future if normal tables become too expensive for cafeterias. [23:08]
mcorlett coingenuity: No Lil Jon, please. [23:08]
* coingenuity has "get low" stuck in my head now [23:08]
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jcpham yeah me too [23:08]
draco49 OK! [23:08]
jcpham thank coingenuity [23:08]
coingenuity lol [23:08]
jcpham lame as hell [23:08]
draco49 lol [23:08]
coingenuity it was helo who started it [23:08]
mircea_popescu * coingenuity has "get low" stuck in my head now << dangling pointer problem. [23:08]
coingenuity lol [23:08]
mircea_popescu omg a little btc price action [23:08]
mircea_popescu it's going down. [23:08]
jcpham where's my chalice [23:08]
mcorlett "3,6,9 damn your fine move it so you can sock it to me one mo time" [23:09]
smickles ;;ticker [23:09]
gribble Best bid: 4.68362, Best ask: 4.6997, Bid-ask spread: 0.01608, Last trade: 4.6997, 24 hour volume: 44597, 24 hour low: 4.6605, 24 hour high: 4.88 [23:09]
vragnaroda [21:08] < mircea_pope> | tablets could have a future if normal tables become too expensive for cafeterias. <-- lol [23:09]
coingenuity XFD [23:09]
jcpham punny [23:09]
draco49 jcpham, I think the Archbishop Don "Magic "Juan has the chalice... [23:09]
coingenuity thats truly one good use for tablets....customer service [23:09]
coingenuity wouldnt you be happy if all the numbnuts you deal with in a store had an ipad to look up details instead of telling you the wrong thing? i would [23:09]
mcorlett these lyrics are awesome [23:10]
mcorlett "Now give me my doe back and go get ya friend [23:10]
mcorlett Stupid bitch standing there while I’m drinking my hen" [23:10]
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coingenuity lmfao [23:10]
draco49 My friend uses his iPad to find his iPhone. That was his big reason to own an iPad. [23:10]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133244315912.jpg << sfw or nsfw ? you decide. [23:10]
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draco49 mircea_popescu, that's nsfw [23:11]
jcpham Shantan Wantan Ichiban and the Dungeon Family? [23:11]
mircea_popescu cause smoking ? [23:11]
coingenuity i finally gave in and got a new phone today draco49 =D i am teh happy [23:11]
mcorlett draco49: Mircea works from home. [23:11]
pirateat40 That's my vape girl [23:11]
jcpham i used to be able to participate in nsfw discussions [23:11]
vragnaroda It's safe for my work but you might be a prude. [23:11]
mircea_popescu mcorlett i sometimes work from the basement too. [23:11]
vragnaroda lol [23:11]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: TMI [23:11]
* vragnaroda hates the ‘no NSFW’ rule. [23:11]
vragnaroda mcorlett: I sometimes work in the nude. [23:12]
draco49 I work from home and it's fine for me, but maybe not for a staffed office. [23:12]
* mircea_popescu actively works at subverting it [23:12]
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smickles those look like 'unhealthily' large breasts [23:12]
unreal-dude ok plato, i dont have GTC, only the ability get PLEX [23:12]
mircea_popescu I work from home and it's fine for me, but maybe not for a stuffed orifice. FIFY. [23:12]
jcpham they look healthy to me [23:12]
draco49 what? Your crazy... nothing unhealthy about that! [23:12]
mcorlett draco49: My crazy?! [23:12]
jcpham overtly healthy [23:12]
mircea_popescu smickles she's handling them. they aren't that big. [23:12]
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smickles jcpham: she's laying down b/c she must have back problems [23:13]
draco49 lol no mcorlett, I was referring to what smickles said. [23:13]
plato thanks anyway unreal-dude [23:13]
mircea_popescu and she's all oiled cause she has dry skin conditions ? [23:13]
jcpham probably trying to relax her throat [23:13]
mircea_popescu arlechin disease like [23:13]
draco49 I agree... nobody wants to be ashy. [23:13]
smickles maybe she's in that position b/c she fell over [23:14]
draco49 coingenuity, what phone did you get? [23:14]
mircea_popescu maybe she was born that way... [23:14]
mcorlett smickles: I think you're onto something there... [23:14]
draco49 Or it's a high-speed shot of her having a seizure. [23:14]
draco49 Lady Gaga was... [23:14]
jcpham i think it's a dude [23:14]
jcpham HUGE ADAMS APPLE [23:14]
vragnaroda lol [23:14]
Joric i noticed http://eztv.it is moving to mp4 eg southpark was mp4 [23:14]
vragnaroda lol eztv [23:15]
draco49 That's because it's really a crime-scene photo... someone broke her neck. [23:15]
chwergy Buying BTC for PPCAD [23:15]
coingenuity draco49: i picked up the http://www.google.com/nexus/ draco49 [23:15]
vragnaroda Joric: It's not just them. [23:15]
* smickles remembered to close the blindes to shiels the children playing in the park … or rather their parents [23:15]
mcorlett Joric: lol lrn2pirate usenet lololz [23:15]
draco49 I know that phone... [23:16]
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coingenuity the interesting thing about that device is that it's the current google developer handset [23:16]
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Joric well mp4 x h264 is ipad friendly [23:16]
vragnaroda smickles: There is a park behind this place that I can see from the bathroom window and I don't ever close the blinds. [23:16]
coingenuity and the G1 was godly, so i figure it's probably the best choice [23:16]
coingenuity also, ipad is a joke, my android tablet runs anything fine even MKV high def [23:16]
draco49 to Android AVD sucks, so it's nice to have a real device [23:17]
vragnaroda lol android tablet [23:17]
draco49 *the [23:17]
smickles vragnaroda: do you present 8foot images of vaginas and clop clop to your bathroom window? [23:17]
coingenuity yes android tablet vragnaroda [23:17]
jcpham nick you got some clopclop smick [23:17]
coingenuity ive used ipads and various droid tabs, none of em are really useful for anything much in the end except streaming video [23:18]
smickles jcpham: i click on links in #bitcoin-otc-nsfw [23:18]
vragnaroda smickles: The only times I've looked for clop images is to irritate bronies. [23:18]
gmaxwell clop? [23:18]
draco49 +10 for vragnaroda [23:18]
mcorlett gmaxwell: clop clop clop clop clop [23:18]
* gmaxwell confused [23:18]
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rawrmage vragnaroda: just for that… [23:19]
draco49 rawrmage, you're the ultimate brony. [23:19]
vragnaroda gmaxwell: MLP slash [23:19]
mircea_popescu i think clop is the new fap [23:19]
copumpkin yeah [23:19]
mircea_popescu used to be masturbation back when people could type long sequences. [23:19]
jcpham klankklank for fembot gribble porn [23:19]
coingenuity lol [23:19]
mircea_popescu i forget what brony is tho [23:20]
gmaxwell ah. [23:20]
draco49 mircea_popescu, "bros" who are into MLP [23:20]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: My Little Pony fans [23:20]
mircea_popescu possibly the new fury ? [23:20]
* mircea_popescu grins facetiously. [23:20]
Joric omg 'Due to the incident of stolen coins from Bitcoinica a couple of weeks ago, the accounts that are suspected to have been receiving the tainted coins were flagged for AML. If you believe that this was done in error, please submit your official ID and proof of residence' [23:20]
pigeons its weirdoes like rawrmage, not that there's anything wrong with it [23:20]
vragnaroda trolololol [23:20]
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Joric http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/r8s4x/mt_gox_selling_tainted_coins_then_locking/ [23:21]
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mircea_popescu it's all over the bitcointalk too joric [23:21]
rawrmage i love my little pony: friendship is magic [23:21]
smickles gmaxwell: i think there a /r/clopclop where you can educate yourself [23:21]
gmaxwell Thanks but no. [23:21]
mircea_popescu wasn't that 16 yo and under restricted ? [23:21]
jcpham reminds me of dicknipples [23:22]
Joric blocking accounts for fun and profit [23:22]
mircea_popescu i don;'t understandf this entire "omg, find the stolen coins" insanity. [23:22]
LordCanti "tainted coins? [23:23]
vragnaroda I don't get why people are acting surprised by this. [23:23]
Joric that clop is it a brony thing [23:23]
vragnaroda That's exactly what MtGox has been saying they'd do. [23:23]
bruzum vragnaroda: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [23:23]
mircea_popescu im not surprised, im displeased. [23:23]
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draco49 http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/021/b/a/cool_brony_man_or_girl_by_kamikaze0617-d4n545r.jpg <-- typical brony [23:24]
mircea_popescu jesus god that's my parole officer [23:24]
draco49 lol [23:24]
mircea_popescu hehehe [23:24]
Joric if it's there it's either completely offtopic or about ponies [23:24]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I wasn't talking about you; I was talking about idiotic forumgoers and redditors. [23:24]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda o, those. [23:24]
rg good [23:25]
rg i think thats a good plan [23:25]
rg all theyre doing is to verify your ID, no big deal [23:25]
mircea_popescu ya, populating the database for the next leak [23:25]
mircea_popescu sounds like a genius move. [23:25]
brznbtni 7q rg http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/535357_195464143897492_100003017227900_308644_1319901066_n.jpg here she is [23:25]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I haven't seen anything to indicate it's in the same database. They did some AML verifications before the big incident, too. [23:26]
vragnaroda That said, MtGox has the stereotypical French attitude toward customer service and I find it disturbing how they're the leading exchange. [23:27]
mircea_popescu im just saying, there's absolutely no reason to suspect the entire song and dance is anything more effectual than the tsa for instance. [23:27]
vragnaroda Oh, definitely; it's just theater. [23:27]
mircea_popescu they're still the leading exchange because they got lucky and the main competitor was stupid. [23:27]
chwergy is dealing with mt.gox a bad idea? [23:27]
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mircea_popescu chwergy i think so. [23:27]
vragnaroda chwergy: Relying on them is. Dealing with them is not necessarily but be careful. [23:28]
draco49 I don't the account verifications are big deal. They don't ask you for any information that couldn't be found elsewhere. [23:28]
vragnaroda Don't trust them with too much. [23:28]
mircea_popescu prolly not on bitcoinica level, or maybe nowadays [23:28]
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vragnaroda draco49: Then what's the point? [23:28]
chwergy well which exchanges should i use instead? i dont really like how big mt-gox is [23:28]
vragnaroda Of course they're getting information they can't find elsewhere. [23:28]
mircea_popescu chwergy well there's here if you got rating, that's what i use. i think there are some exchanges too but i never used one. [23:29]
draco49 I don't know that it does actually accomplish anything except to cover MTGox in the case of alleged fraud. [23:29]
vragnaroda chwergy: Well, that depends on where you are and what currency/-ies you have to trade. [23:29]
jcpham i'd bet on onfi like that [23:29]
bitcoinTrader wht happened to cryptoxchange? [23:29]
jcpham *info [23:29]
draco49 But I don't necessarily disagree with it. [23:29]
chwergy CAnada [23:29]
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chwergy yeah, i kinda like cryptoxchange [23:29]
AnonX sup bros [23:30]
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bitcoinTrader cryptoxchange promised much [23:30]
coingenuity heh [23:30]
mircea_popescu if i weren't loath to handle the banks/fiat currencies part i'd make an exchange. but meh. [23:30]
AnonX ;;rating AnonX [23:30]
draco49 I think a p2p exchange that operated on top of the existing bitcoin network would be cool. [23:30]
bitcoinTrader dont know wht happened [23:30]
* seco thinks about the new signfeature of bitcoin-0.6 [23:30]
seco couldnt it lead to a much easier identification process here on btc-otc if gribble identifies users by a btc-address? [23:30]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't mind something like that seco [23:31]
mircea_popescu provided it can use old addies. [23:31]
Joric damn, bitcoinica sells at 4.70 [23:31]
draco49 seco: are you referring to the multi-sign feature? [23:31]
coingenuity just my 0.02, i have never had a problem with mtgox and i've been running tradebots for years >.> [23:31]
seco yes [23:31]
AnonX where is nanotube?:( [23:31]
draco49 multi-sign wouldn't have anything to do with gribble [23:31]
vragnaroda AnonX: New Jersey, I believe. [23:32]
mircea_popescu brznbtni here, in exchange for yours : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/132726980750.jpg [23:32]
coingenuity if you're looking for a smaller exchange, poke at intersango, as they've got a full-fledged API, great security, etc [23:32]
seco registering at btc-otc has always be a pain for new users, especially if they did not hear about gpg before [23:32]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: OK, that picture was out of line. [23:32]
mircea_popescu he started it! [23:32]
mircea_popescu i didn't start the pic war [23:32]
draco49 All multi-sign does is provide an extra wallet security option to require 2 priv keys sign a send transaction. [23:32]
mircea_popescu peeps were 'lready posting when i left that picture [23:32]
coingenuity well, we're ending it. no more NSFW spam [23:33]
vragnaroda s/ spam/./ [23:33]
* coingenuity puts SFW flag in gorund [23:33]
mircea_popescu this is like a rebellion. [23:33]
coingenuity ground* [23:33]
Joric bitcoinica sells at 4.67 [23:33]
vragnaroda Words have meanings. [23:33]
mircea_popescu and for those who would listen ? [23:33]
seco oh i think there is just a signature-feature somewhere in the api but not fully implemented in the gui: where user can sign with private key of one of his btc-adresses [23:33]
brznbtni mircea_popescu: n1 [23:33]
draco49 seco: Yes, message signing has always been there. [23:34]
jcpham i feel mircea_popescu last photo was SFW [23:34]
seco so a new user just registers with a btc-address from his receiving-address book, and if he can provide gribble a signed otp-message with this address he is authed! [23:34]
draco49 That feature allows you to sign a message using your wallet priv key to prove, or validate, that you own the particular Bitcoin address. [23:34]
* AnonX Have: MB EUR/USD, PayPal, Pokerstars$, party$. Want: Bitcoin [23:35]
jcpham and totally on-topic if you are looking for a naked man with a gun to sell you bitcoin [23:35]
seco otc-username could be seen as alias to a unique btc-address! [23:35]
mircea_popescu o interesting ideea that, using poker$ for bitcoins anonx [23:35]
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mircea_popescu and yes i know seco, it's kind of how i use the mpoe address. [23:35]
mircea_popescu a sort of hackish de facto thing. [23:35]
seco well its unique identification on my eyes....but maybe i just miss something^^ [23:36]
mircea_popescu headed for 4.5 again ? [23:37]
mircea_popescu and on rather low volume this time, we might see some sights here. [23:38]
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chwergy any gambling services dealing with BTC other than that dragon game? [23:39]
splatster ;;ticker [23:39]
gribble Best bid: 4.63106, Best ask: 4.6364, Bid-ask spread: 0.00534, Last trade: 4.6364, 24 hour volume: 47733, 24 hour low: 4.61, 24 hour high: 4.88 [23:39]
Cusipzzz chewergy: sports betting of course! [23:39]
Cusipzzz EvanR: where are you, winners tonight [23:40]
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EvanR Cusipzzz: no bitcoins [23:46]
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EvanR tonight im planning to take a break and collect my stuff [23:47]
EvanR and pay some bills [23:47]
EvanR and see how much BTCHero has succeeded in paying me for that computer [23:47]
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matthew_ looking to buy BTC for MP in bulk. anyone? [23:49]
brznbtni bulk? [23:50]
brznbtni how much= [23:50]
matthew_ the MP is $350 [23:50]
brznbtni so you eeed btc eq. of 350 usd [23:50]
brznbtni need [23:50]
matthew_ yup [23:50]
coingenuity bulky [23:50]
brznbtni yeah [23:50]
brznbtni one year's salary [23:51]
brznbtni in China [23:51]
draco49 ;;getrating matthew_ [23:51]
gribble User matthew_, created on Mon Jan 30 18:49:11 2012. Cumulative rating 8, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=matthew_ Currently authenticated from hostmask matthew_!~bitcoin@99.0.61.35 [23:51]
Cusipzzz EvanR: ok, will have them all weekend [23:52]
Cusipzzz games the next 4 days [23:52]
EvanR im ready to make some money! [23:52]
Cusipzzz good man [23:52]
EvanR on average! [23:52]
matthew_ so no one? [23:52]
EvanR i live in quantum super position [23:52]
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mod6 :) [23:53]
Cusipzzz quantum winners.. i will give you all winners, you just need to be in the right universe to see them [23:53]
Cusipzzz and they may become losers after you look at them [23:54]
AnonX ;;getrating AnonX [23:54]
BTC_Bear Does an altered state of mind count. Cause lots of people here would win. [23:54]
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coingenuity BTC_Bear: yeah dawg im gettin irie [23:55]
coingenuity on coffee [23:55]
coingenuity X_X [23:55]
coingenuity am i cool yet >.> [23:55]
BTC_Bear You too [23:55]
draco49 http://i.qkme.me/355pbk.jpg [23:57]
copumpkin lol [23:58]
draco49 :P [23:58]
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