Forum logs for 22 Apr 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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| * | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu | [10:24] |
| * | Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu is: Eurozone #bitcoin-otc || http://bitcoin-otc.com || Include hash tag #eu in order notes to group -eu orders. || View all tagged -eu orders here: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu || Exchange rates: !bc,convert CURRENCYCODE || GET BTC WITH ukash/paysafecard ... /msg neliskybot help || options-> http://polimedia.us/btc || bitcoin hosting -> http://bitvps.com/ | [10:24] |
| * | Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Apr 20 21:40:27 2012 | [10:24] |
| mircea_popescu | good morning otc | [10:25] |
| vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: こんにちは。 | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu | buna sa-ti fie inima voinice. | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu | so i finally took the momentuous decision that no mail originating from yahoo.com can be delivered to polimedia.us | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu | and i encourage everyone to DROP them too. | [10:27] |
| phedny | vragnaroda: おはようございます | [10:27] |
| vragnaroda | Oh shit, he's speaking that shit at me. | [10:29] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [10:29] |
| vragnaroda | I only know a few phrases; leave me alone. | [10:29] |
| mircea_popescu | lmao | [10:29] |
| * | vragnaroda goes and cries in the corner. | [10:29] |
| mircea_popescu | he is just a FAKER you see phedny ! | [10:29] |
| phedny | well, I also only know a few phrases, so I'd be glad to keep you alone :) | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu | ahahahaa | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu | oh -otc why do you deliver so! | [10:30] |
| vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: It's on my eventual to-learn list and I have the IME but that's about it so far. | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu | well that's something. | [10:31] |
| vragnaroda | I chose that one for my greeting because someone in ##japanese is ranting about how he wants to learn to speak to people and doesn't care about reading/writing. | [10:31] |
| vragnaroda | I found that incredibly amusing. | [10:31] |
| mod6 | hi | [10:32] |
| mod6 | :) | [10:32] |
| mircea_popescu | heya | [10:33] |
| vragnaroda | I mean, how fucking stupid is that? Learn a language as an adult but have no real way of looking shit up because you only care about being able to converse with people? That's just fucking retarded. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu | vragnaroda : it sounds retarded but practically is how i learned all languages. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu | that i know i mean. | [10:33] |
| vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: I can believe you focused on speaking them but I doubt you approached it with no interest in the written form. | [10:34] |
| mircea_popescu | i had plenty of interest, but i first learned to speak fluently | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu | then reading/writing came with very little effort | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu | if you think about it its how native languages are learned too | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu | which also occurs with very little effort | [10:35] |
| * | mircea_popescu is a great fan of little effort. | [10:35] |
| vragnaroda | Saying native languages are learned with very little effort is like saying foreskin is removed with very little discomfort. | [10:35] |
| phedny | learning a language the way native speakers learned is isn't automatically the most efficient way | [10:36] |
| vragnaroda | It's certainly better as a child, but that doesn't mean it's easy. The fuck it up *all the time*. | [10:36] |
| vragnaroda | *They | [10:36] |
| mircea_popescu | well, im not being normative over here | [10:36] |
| mircea_popescu | just saying that's what works best for me. | [10:36] |
| phedny | in young children, the regions of the brain that are used for reading/writing aren't fully developed yet and also more complex or abstract concepts aren't comprehensible for them | [10:37] |
| phedny | mircea_popescu: ah, that might be true :) | [10:37] |
| mircea_popescu | phedny im sure im gaining significant advantage from the fact mine are developed, and i can abstract grammar and abstract phonetic representations from speech, which kids can't | [10:38] |
| mircea_popescu | however, that doesn't mean allowing all this to work passively isn't the right way to go. | [10:38] |
| vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: I also seem to remember you saying that you learned languages because you wanted to screw its native speakers. Being around native speakers is a luxury this asshat doesn't have. He's joining an IRC channel to ask questions about a language he doesn't know how to and doesn't want to learn how to write. | [10:38] |
| mircea_popescu | well DOH irc is written. | [10:38] |
| mircea_popescu | it is really absurd to want to learn to speak in a written-only medium isnt it. | [10:39] |
| phedny | I once joined a French IRC channel when I was learning French | [10:39] |
| mircea_popescu | imo irc is a bad way to learn languages, too much diversity. | [10:39] |
| phedny | didn't help much.. on IRC people write things differently :) | [10:40] |
| vragnaroda | phedny: Did you say “teach me French but not how to write it.”? | [10:40] |
| vragnaroda | Well, ##French isn't that bad about it but some other French-language IRC channels are fucking horrible. | [10:40] |
| phedny | vragnaroda: actually I didnt' say much, I was first observing and noticing that no grammar rule was followed :) | [10:40] |
| vragnaroda | ne0führer's French is like the French equivalent of a cross between rg's English and danieldaniel's English. | [10:41] |
| vragnaroda | phedny: lol, yeah | [10:41] |
| vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: The other day in #mandarin, someone was trying to argue that Mandarin and Esperanto are very similar grammatically. | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu | mmm | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu | there is this theory that english is very slowly moving towards chinese | [10:43] |
| vragnaroda | (They're about as far apart as possible.) | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu | (very slowly in the sense africa is moving towards india very slowly) | [10:43] |
| phedny | lol | [10:44] |
| vragnaroda | Yes, for an Indo-European language, English tends to be very isolating. | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu | and apparently increeasingly so since ~1800 | [10:49] |
| mircea_popescu | i was fascinated by the theory because to be honest modern chinese exists as the result of many thousands years of iterations over a large and diverse group of speakers | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu | which may well resemble the situation of the british empire. | [10:50] |
| mircea_popescu | so maybe there's a starcycle of languages too. | [10:50] |
| vragnaroda | Well, the more contact with other languages, the simpler the morphology, as a general rule. | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/muie-yahoo.png | [10:51] |
| mircea_popescu | im fed up with those muppets. | [10:51] |
| vragnaroda | lol | [10:52] |
| mircea_popescu | yahoo mail is possibly the worst microsoft type of thing at the moment. | [10:53] |
| mircea_popescu | lmao that language crossing comment was evil. | [10:54] |
| vragnaroda | Hmm? | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu | rg isn't that bad really | [10:55] |
| mircea_popescu | and daniel i haven't read for months (had him on ignore for a while too) | [10:55] |
| vragnaroda | Oh, no, rg's gotten a lot better. | [10:56] |
| mircea_popescu | and speaking of rg, check out this shit http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu | im gonna retire on his stock or wtf | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu | ok, UX question : would anyone benefit from me making the price digits on MPEx colordegrading ? | [11:08] |
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| markedathome | have you looked at Edward Tufte's site for suggestions on sparklines / stock display graphics | [11:39] |
| mircea_popescu | no ? | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu | i was just thinking that due to there being so many zeroes | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu | people might benefit. | [11:44] |
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| markedathome | http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0001OR | [11:50] |
| markedathome | a bit self-indulgent but generally good ideas. the books are good I've got three of them apart from the newest. | [11:52] |
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| mircea_popescu | a really ? i'll give it a look markedathome | [12:41] |
| mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68GeL8PafE | [12:51] |
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| kakobrekla | mornin | [13:15] |
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| mircea_popescu | heya | [13:36] |
| kakobrekla | no drama on the forums | [13:44] |
| kakobrekla | what is this now | [13:44] |
| markedathome | everyone nicely mellowed out? | [13:49] |
| kakobrekla | yeah borring | [13:50] |
| kakobrekla | mircea_popescu, send mpoe pr to stir some shit | [13:51] |
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| Amiga4000 | !bc,convert eur | [15:15] |
| gribble | 1 BTC = 5.19293 U.S. dollars = 3.92957246 Euros | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu | lmao what now kakobrekla | [15:19] |
| kakobrekla | what | [15:19] |
| kakobrekla | oh that | [15:20] |
| kakobrekla | yeah | [15:20] |
| kakobrekla | srs | [15:20] |
| kakobrekla | its borring | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [15:23] |
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| mircea_popescu | don't worry, pretty soon people are gonna get tired of sitting on it and there's going to be so much pirate drama... | [15:24] |
| mcorlett | mircea_popescu: We were looking for you last night, to no avail. | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu | ah ? | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu | where were you looking ? | [15:43] |
| mcorlett | I'm afraid that's classified information. | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu | a ok. | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu | well then i'm sure you found me. | [15:44] |
| kakobrekla | !view 7728 | [15:51] |
| gribble | #7728 Sun Apr 22 05:50:07 2012 kakobrekla SELL 500.0 loan @ 1 bond (You own GLBSE mining bonds and need a loan? Accepting GLBSE mining bonds as collateral for your loans. Available: 500btc) | [15:51] |
| mircea_popescu | lol i thought you were going the other way around | [16:00] |
| kakobrekla | yeah | [16:00] |
| kakobrekla | i was planing to with you | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway, that's be a pretty decent business line | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu | get mpex acct, ppl can push you shares you give out secured loans. | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu | they pay, you push back. | [16:00] |
| mircea_popescu | maybe be able to make a little bit on the side loaning out the shares to shorts too. | [16:01] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla's security-secured loans and advances (KSSLA) | [16:02] |
| kakobrekla | ^^ | [16:02] |
| mircea_popescu | Dear all miners, give a look --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77675.0 | [16:06] |
| kakobrekla | *rolling tumbleweed* | [16:09] |
| kakobrekla | :D | [16:10] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [16:10] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76926.msg863348#msg863348 there you go. | [16:16] |
| kakobrekla | hehe | [16:17] |
| JWU42 | mircea_popescu: spam now? | [16:23] |
| JWU42 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77675.0 | [16:23] |
| JWU42 | come on man - rein her in ;) | [16:23] |
| JWU42 | and yes - I have been thinking about it as well but lack the time or finance skills (too long since grad school) to figure this out | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu | mkay. | [16:42] |
| JWU42!*@* | added to ignore list. | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu | need to populate them ignore lists somehow. | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu | hmm so i put half a btc in bitlotto half a btc in giga's raffle curious which one wins hehe | [16:55] |
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| kinksbbx | anybody trading for ukash? | [17:23] |
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| mcorlett | Pentesters, speak up. | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu | talk to rg | [18:21] |
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| markedathome | mcorlett: what sort? network or application? | [18:27] |
| mcorlett | markedathome: Web app. | [18:27] |
| markedathome | not really my specialty | [18:28] |
| mircea_popescu | pentest virginz!!1 | [18:28] |
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| rg | wtf. | [19:38] |
| rg | did you think i wouldnt see you talking about me | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu | someone talking about you ? | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu | waht are you, like a celebrity ? | [19:39] |
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| rg | 08:55 |
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| rg | 08:56 |
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| rg | 08:57 |
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| rg | http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS | [19:44] |
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| rg | i cant even find where im originally mentioned | [19:45] |
| mircea_popescu | hehe. | [19:45] |
| mircea_popescu | vrag just loves you and said that neofutur's french looks like a hitch between your english and danieldaniel's | [19:45] |
| rg | haha | [19:45] |
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| rawrmage | 03:41 < vragnaroda> ne0führer's French is like the French equivalent of a cross between rg's English and danieldaniel's English. | [19:46] |
| mircea_popescu | 20 minutes zero confirms | [19:55] |
| mircea_popescu | THE END OF BITCOIN IS NIGH! | [19:55] |
| markedathome | i had a transaction take something like 19 days to complete | [19:56] |
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| rg | my transactions all take 56 weeks | [20:10] |
| rg | its real shit out today | [20:15] |
| deegy | ukash>psc? | [20:23] |
| deegy | *ukash>btc | [20:23] |
| mircea_popescu | ya but i mean, that was about no blocks see | [20:25] |
| mircea_popescu | not about no transaction | [20:25] |
| markedathome | what has been the longest block wait? | [20:31] |
| mircea_popescu | i think about 30 mins, at least in my experience | [20:33] |
| mircea_popescu | mother of god | [20:48] |
| kakobrekla | i saw that | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu | wtf. | [20:49] |
| mircea_popescu | is btc going to shit ? | [20:49] |
| rg | ;;ticker | [20:50] |
| gribble | Best bid: 5.12001, Best ask: 5.14553, Bid-ask spread: 0.02552, Last trade: 5.14564, 24 hour volume: 32075, 24 hour low: 5.11, 24 hour high: 5.3287 | [20:50] |
| mircea_popescu | mm | [20:51] |
| mircea_popescu | holy shit | [20:52] |
| kakobrekla | moar | [20:52] |
| mircea_popescu | what the fuck do people know that i dont | [20:52] |
| mircea_popescu | i'm out 8k puts by now! | [20:52] |
| markedathome | what the hell is going on in mpoe? | [20:52] |
| markedathome | er, mpex | [20:53] |
| mircea_popescu | apparently btc is headed to 4.5 or below | [20:53] |
| mircea_popescu | best i can tell | [20:53] |
| markedathome | i know TSTSNBM sale is ending shortly | [20:53] |
| * | markedathome rubs hands, and checks bc position :-) | [20:53] |
| markedathome | did you see the guy who wanted to export 100000USD from us to europe in otc earlier? | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu | im not in otc | [20:54] |
| mcorlett | markedathome: Bull trap! | [21:02] |
| markedathome | ? | [21:03] |
| mcorlett | The 100k deal. | [21:03] |
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| mircea_popescu | well at least it's tapering off but damn... | [21:07] |
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| deegy | /msg neliskybot help | [21:12] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13351184873.jpg comic of the day. | [21:15] |
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| mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Let's say I own a service and would like to list it on MPEx. Walk me through /everything/. | [21:35] |
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| markedathome | what is going on? that is a hell of a netsplit that has just occured | [21:40] |
| mircea_popescu | only a coupla names ? | [21:40] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [21:52] |
| gribble | Best bid: 5.11707, Best ask: 5.14, Bid-ask spread: 0.02293, Last trade: 5.14867, 24 hour volume: 34726, 24 hour low: 5.1025, 24 hour high: 5.3287 | [21:52] |
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| markedathome | mircea_popescu: happened on multiple channels, -otc has a screenful or two | [21:56] |
| mircea_popescu | a | [21:56] |
| markedathome | oh apparently a server dropped | [21:56] |
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| deegy | anyone doing ukash>btc? | [22:04] |
| kakobrekla | !topic | [22:05] |
| gribble | Eurozone #bitcoin-otc || http://bitcoin-otc.com || Include hash tag #eu in order notes to group -eu orders. || View all tagged -eu orders here: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu || Exchange rates: !bc,convert CURRENCYCODE || GET BTC WITH ukash/paysafecard ... /msg neliskybot help || options-> http://polimedia.us/btc || bitcoin hosting -> http://bitvps.com/ | [22:05] |
| deegy | no one is around to process my order, so just checking if there's anyone else out there | [22:06] |
| markedathome | there might, and i strongly suggest the might, be using btc-e.com I have no idea how long it takes, and i have no idea if your funds might get frozen for a time, which has been reported. however they never reported back on the unfreeze times (if at all) | [22:10] |
| markedathome | and i have no idea if that applies to ukash gbp or ukash eur | [22:10] |
| deegy | okay thanks pal | [22:12] |
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| Guest23419 | anyone selling btc for euros? | [22:14] |
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| mcorlett | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.msg863559#msg863559 | [22:41] |
| mcorlett | Awesome! | [22:41] |
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| lux___ | is it possible to trade paypal $ for bitcoins here? | [23:03] |
| rg | ,,paypal | [23:08] |
| draco49 | ;;rg | [23:08] |
| gribble | Error: "rg" is not a valid command. | [23:08] |
| rg | hm | [23:09] |
| markedathome | paypal $ are -otc, not -otc-eu | [23:09] |
| rg | ,,paypal doesnt work in here | [23:09] |
| draco49 | ;;rg should be a valid command | [23:09] |
| rg | it is valid | [23:09] |
| rg | it just doesnt do what you think it does | [23:09] |
| draco49 | hehe | [23:09] |
| mcorlett | lol | [23:13] |
| lux___ | what rg ? can I buy bitcoins with paypal? | [23:14] |
| mcorlett | I don't get this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhHt3wRon4 | [23:15] |
| draco49 | lux___, there's someone in -otc selling BTC for PP right now | [23:15] |
| draco49 | easystevey | [23:15] |
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