Forum logs for 21 Apr 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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rg | i need some food | [00:01] |
rg | none of my btc are going to be confirmed for like 2h rs | [00:01] |
mcorlett | Has anyone seen the film Colombiana? | [00:02] |
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rg | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0757855/ | [00:02] |
rg | meow | [00:02] |
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rg | loan rg $12.90, pay back in btc | [00:03] |
rg | anyone whos ordered me food knows what 12.90 is | [00:03] |
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dolanduk | i fell out, dammit...okay, any other norwegians than sturles since he doesnt accept paypal =/ | [00:03] |
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mcorlett | dolanduk: Do you have a reputation? | [00:07] |
mcorlett | ;;getrating [ident dolanduk] | [00:07] |
gribble | This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/cum-sa-cistigi-2000-de-dolari-in-mai-putin-de-o-zi/ | [00:08] |
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mircea_popescu | i just wrote a blogpost explaining how the burt wagner defqault netted me ~1k btc yest. | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone is curious. | [00:09] |
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mcorlett | mircea_popescu: What's Putin got to do with it? | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | putin ? | [00:12] |
mcorlett | Also: English, please. | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | aww | [00:12] |
mcorlett | It says Putin in the URL. | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | simple story : ppl buying ~.9x yest got panicked early morning sold into ~.22 buy order. | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | net result 1.5mn shares x ~.7 differential > 1k+ btc for the MM. | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | the other net result being it's unlikely anyone takes burt wagner, patrick harnett & co seriously ever again. | [00:13] |
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mircea_popescu | and putin means a little in romanian. | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | mai putin de o zi = less than a day | [00:14] |
mcorlett | Can you link to Burt's post where he backs out? | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76594.0 | [00:14] |
dolanduck | how do i get reputation? | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | you trade with people dolanduck | [00:15] |
mcorlett | bash-worthy | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | mcorlett : it's unapparent now, but it read [ANNOUNCE GLBSE] 2000 PPT.A Pirate Pass Through Bonds | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | then it got changed. | [00:16] |
mcorlett | Big deal(?) | [00:18] |
mircea_popescu | well, to someone is 1k btc worth of a big deal | [00:19] |
mircea_popescu | i don't mind, tbh. | [00:19] |
mircea_popescu | (nor am i surprised) | [00:20] |
mcorlett | Right. | [00:21] |
rg | draco49: page | [00:25] |
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mircea_popescu | 5.40 woo | [00:28] |
rg | ;;ticker | [00:28] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.335, Best ask: 5.38777, Bid-ask spread: 0.05277, Last trade: 5.335, 24 hour volume: 90703, 24 hour low: 5.1, 24 hour high: 5.39899 | [00:28] |
rg | wtf | [00:28] |
draco49 | wut? | [00:28] |
rg | draco | [00:28] |
rg | baby | [00:28] |
draco49 | ya | [00:29] |
rg | can you buy me food? | [00:29] |
draco49 | broke til tomorrow :( | [00:29] |
draco49 | sorry | [00:29] |
rg | curses! | [00:29] |
rg | i guess ill attempt to make something then | [00:32] |
mcorlett | draco49: He only refers to you as "baby" when he needs something, right? | [00:33] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: holy fuck, did you see that? | [00:34] |
draco49 | lol yup | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | options unwinding. | [00:34] |
Azelphur | someone just went on a spending spree haha | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | apparently the price going up hurt | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | nah that was open from b4 | [00:34] |
dolanduck | I wanna buy bitcoins with paypal, can someone help me out? | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tell dolanduck [guide] | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | i've been a web of thorns for counterparties this month, people short calls into me the price explodes, people buy pirate cds it blows up, it's like nightmareland. | [00:38] |
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Azelphur | I still have no idea what options are | [00:38] |
Azelphur | I know what I'm doing, honest. | [00:39] |
Azelphur | xD | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | options are a contract for difference | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | if you have a call @5 and price is 6 you get 1. | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | if pruice is 4 you get naught. | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | puts are the reverse : at 4 you get 1, and 6 you get naught | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, my trade engine is a monster. all those 4 trades show on the same hundredth of a second. | [00:40] |
Staatsfeind | 13:36 #bitcoin-otc-eu: < mircea_popescu> say, Staatsfeind,. what's the rhyme&reason to the switching ? <-- Just felt like it for today. | [00:41] |
mircea_popescu | lol k | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | i tohught some days you eat veal and so you're vragnaroda | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | and some other days you eat shrimp | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | and so .... | [00:42] |
markedathome | ooooh, you need to be in #bitcoin-assets | [00:52] |
rg | staatsfiend is his irc client in the basement | [00:52] |
rg | in the 'love dungeon' | [00:52] |
markedathome | diablo-3d is wanting to put up 1m shares in his mining op for 1btc each... | [00:53] |
Staatsfeind | I thought I had added that to my autojoin but I didn't. :-( | [00:53] |
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Staatsfeind | wut | [00:54] |
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Azelphur | mircea_popescu: options for all intense and purposes work the same as stocks though right? | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | sure | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | except they have exercise, they can be created out of btc and they expire monthly | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | lmao jesus | [00:59] |
mircea_popescu | he should be on MPEx | [00:59] |
Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: Wth is he doing, anyway? | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | i have no iddeea | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | but i like volume :D | [01:00] |
Staatsfeind | LOL, ok. | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | lmao he's putting it on glbse | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | ahahahaha good luck, .6 btc at a time. | [01:02] |
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mircea_popescu | How many GH/s does your mining operation currently have and how much should 1 share (out of how many) cost? | [01:03] |
mircea_popescu | Currently, less than 1 GH/sec. I'm obviously building this from the ground up. | [01:03] |
mircea_popescu | o brother. | [01:03] |
kakobrekla | 00:01.50 ( Diablo-D3 ) with 5.4 million dollars I could build the largest farm in existence | [01:04] |
kakobrekla | 00:02.00 ( Diablo-D3 ) one that, would essentially, run for free | [01:04] |
kakobrekla | 00:02.06 ( Diablo-D3 ) I'd be deploying as much solar as possible | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | i think he's a little overexcited. | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | solar is possibly the most expensive source of electricity. | [01:05] |
kakobrekla | yeah | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | not to mention it makes no sense to invest btc in utilities ffs. | [01:06] |
kakobrekla | http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/Next12.17b.jpg | [01:06] |
kakobrekla | ftw | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | dead capital, that. takes billions to make electricity. | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | this is like making his own water plant to water his weed crop. | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | people are so unskilled AND SO UNAWARE OF IT. | [01:07] |
draco49 | you don't combine your own hydrogen and oxygen molecules? pfft | [01:08] |
draco49 | sucker | [01:08] |
mircea_popescu | i do, actually. it;'s why i breathe | [01:08] |
draco49 | you should bottle it | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:09] |
rg | instead of the burger | [01:11] |
rawrmage | humans are controlled redox machines! | [01:12] |
rg | i made pancakes, sharp cheddar + pepperoni omlette, and a bagel | [01:12] |
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rg | lil feast | [01:12] |
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Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: Solar is an expensive source of electricity but it's heavily subsidized. | [01:13] |
Staatsfeind | I don't think what I've seen so far is at all plausible, though. | [01:14] |
rg | my room mate has a cabin in the woods | [01:14] |
rg | thats completely solar | [01:14] |
rg | off the grid | [01:14] |
Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: And especially if he's in fucking Maine, what the fuck? | [01:14] |
rg | its pretty sweet, they have air conditioning, fridge, hot water | [01:14] |
rg | and sat rv | [01:14] |
rg | tv* | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | Staatsfeind srsly. sunny maine nao ? | [01:14] |
rg | and some 3g internet shit | [01:14] |
rg | and it is in maine | [01:15] |
rg | hehe | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | the problem with solar (yet) is the things don't last so very long | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | 5 years down the road you're producing 50% | [01:15] |
kakobrekla | 30y | [01:15] |
rg | they have a system that cycles the batteries | [01:15] |
rg | every day | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | it's the cells not the batteries | [01:15] |
rg | fully charges, discharges, fully charges, discharges | [01:15] |
rg | you put new shit in the batteries | [01:15] |
rg | liquid | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | that costs money. | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | seriously, solar is promising but yet expensive | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | and nobody has any business borrowing bitcoins to start a fucking power plant. | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | that's something financed at 4% a year. | [01:16] |
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rg | lol | [01:16] |
rg | is someone trying to do that? | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | well if he's trying to buuild his own private pwoer plant... | [01:17] |
rg | it cost my friends dad like $70k to do all the solar | [01:17] |
rg | out of pocket | [01:17] |
rg | then the govt gave him like 35k | [01:17] |
kakobrekla | i have build this plant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43pHtC8KdLw | [01:17] |
kakobrekla | 300kw | [01:17] |
kakobrekla | it will pay off in 8-10years | [01:17] |
kakobrekla | and work for another 10-20 | [01:17] |
rg | we need nuclear fuel | [01:18] |
kakobrekla | costed just under 1mio eur | [01:18] |
rg | give people food + shelter to pedal a bike | [01:18] |
rg | that generates power | [01:18] |
draco49 | when I get my Johnson Motor done i'll take over the world | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | why would you want to. | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | the world ain't worth takin over. | [01:19] |
draco49 | well i'll just sell my free-power machines | [01:20] |
rg | oof | [01:22] |
rg | im stuffed | [01:22] |
rg | enjoyable | [01:22] |
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draco49 | I'm about to heat up a ketchup packet in the toaster. | [01:25] |
Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: It'd probably be worth it (with subsidies) in that huge of stretch of fucking nothing between Tucson and Phoenix where land's pretty cheap. | [01:25] |
rawrmage | draco49: whaaaaaaaaaaaaa | [01:25] |
draco49 | shut up rawrmage! I only had two packets and I burnt the first one in the microwave. I forgot the packet was made of foil. | [01:25] |
rawrmage | ._. | [01:26] |
draco49 | So now i'm gently warming the second one in the toaster. FTW | [01:26] |
Staatsfeind | But you'd have to bury all your mining equipment. | [01:26] |
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Staatsfeind | AC is expensive when it's 120°F out. | [01:31] |
mod6 | its not as bad as you would think because its so dry. | [01:33] |
mod6 | the units don't have to work quite as hard as when its humid. | [01:33] |
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mircea_popescu | Staatsfeind yea, actually it's pretty much where 90% of serious attempts are made | [01:39] |
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mircea_popescu | mod6 : actually liquid based cooling with heat pumps are the only hope | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | still expensive. | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | prolly burying more cost-efficient | [01:40] |
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mircea_popescu | course seeing how energy can be transported ... | [01:40] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: my exchange is certainly making progress btw, It knows about assets, users, and who owns what now :) | [01:42] |
mircea_popescu | :D | [01:42] |
Azelphur | I'm working on bid/ask now | [01:42] |
mircea_popescu | cool beans! | [01:42] |
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Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: Are these beans magical or something? | [01:45] |
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mircea_popescu | nah, they're just refrigerated. | [01:45] |
Staatsfeind | 22:47 < Diablo-D3> | you know, I suspect I've done that math wrong | [01:47] |
Staatsfeind | 22:47 < Diablo-D3> | because that cant be possibly right | [01:47] |
Staatsfeind | lol | [01:48] |
mircea_popescu | overexcited. | [01:49] |
kakobrekla | lol | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | for weeks now whenever rthinking of btc finances a phrase kept coming obsessively to mind | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | it's from casino if you ever saw it | [01:49] |
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mircea_popescu | "and that was the last fucking time anyone gave something that valuable to a couple of idiots" | [01:50] |
kakobrekla | lol | [01:50] |
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kakobrekla | !bc,convert eur | [01:56] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 5.27 U.S. dollars = 4.00547237 Euros | [01:56] |
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jurov | which is result of daily visits of coinad/dailybitcoins | [01:58] |
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rg | ;;ticker | [02:01] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.25301, Best ask: 5.30999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05698, Last trade: 5.253, 24 hour volume: 100144, 24 hour low: 5.10103, 24 hour high: 5.45 | [02:01] |
rg | ;;asks 5.30 | [02:01] |
gribble | There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 5.3 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | [02:01] |
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Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: I have now been told that Americans are not litigious enough. | [02:09] |
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mircea_popescu | hey, im more litigious than most americans i know. | [02:10] |
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Staatsfeind | mircea_popescu: His evidence for this was that “American courts are typically busy and this denies access to courts.” | [02:11] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok | [02:11] |
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mircea_popescu | dmv is also fucken busy | [02:11] |
mircea_popescu | btw, for the lulzy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77268.0;all | [02:11] |
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mod6 | I kinda like this: | [02:30] |
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mod6 | 350 O.BTCUSD.P060T @0.16324655 => Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:46:44 +0000 | [02:30] |
mod6 | 36 O.BTCUSD.C010T @1.00000001 => Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:33:06 +0000 | [02:30] |
mod6 | so, got one for the RSS now too. sweet. | [02:30] |
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kakobrekla | mod6: you also have that in #bitcoin-assets | [02:30] |
kakobrekla | streaming bot | [02:30] |
kakobrekla | also #bitcoin-assets-trades | [02:31] |
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Python | interface unloaded | [02:35] |
Tcl | interface unloaded | [02:35] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu | [08:32] |
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mircea_popescu | good mornin | [08:32] |
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Blitzboom | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/cum-sa-cistigi-2000-de-dolari-in-mai-putin-de-o-zi/ | [08:58] |
Blitzboom | i wish i could read romanian | [08:58] |
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Blitzboom | mircea_popescu: you got a tl;dr in english? | [09:02] |
Blitzboom | google translator sux | [09:02] |
mircea_popescu | yea, 1 sec. | [09:02] |
mircea_popescu | did it before in here lol | [09:02] |
Blitzboom | great, thanks | [09:02] |
Blitzboom | also gj on however you made the BTC | [09:02] |
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Blitzboom | so you just bought low on the GLBSE? | [09:03] |
Blitzboom | why did people panic? | [09:04] |
Blitzboom | nvm, that must be your synthetic | [09:04] |
Blitzboom | but i still don’t get why someone panicked | [09:05] |
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mircea_popescu | i don't think anyone ever gets why anyone panics | [09:07] |
mircea_popescu | hence the word panic | [09:07] |
Blitzboom | well yes, if the price is in freefall, one could understand | [09:08] |
Blitzboom | or if there are rumors of a default or whatever | [09:08] |
mircea_popescu | apparently the ppt not coming up with the 2k was enough | [09:10] |
mircea_popescu | possibly the dearth of buyside depth contributed. | [09:10] |
mircea_popescu | which is kinda funny, seeing how people kept yaking on the forum about it but most didn't get in until after that event | [09:10] |
Blitzboom | well, congrats | [09:10] |
Blitzboom | good to know some stupid lost a bunch of BTC | [09:10] |
mircea_popescu | it's the sort of stuff market making is made out of, you know. some day i'll be short 1k btc in a coupla hours, evens out in the end. | [09:11] |
mircea_popescu | i doubt they're that stupid, really. better losing 2/3 than 100%. | [09:11] |
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brznbtni | http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/574794_403792299642151_342503639104351_1353166_44026857_n.jpg | [11:52] |
brznbtni | :D | [11:52] |
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mircea_popescu | ahaha the girl kicks butt. get a load of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77550.msg862042#msg862042 | [12:37] |
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markedathome | love it > Short selling is ultimately a tool, used for a specified purpose. Learn to use it and learn to love it because it's not going away. | [12:48] |
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mircea_popescu | yee | [12:51] |
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mircea_popescu | i wonder what is dolanduck's problem | [12:55] |
markedathome | see curious is an alleged mpoe troll https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77457.0 | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [12:55] |
markedathome | it's a thread about pirate from a 12hr old newbie | [12:56] |
markedathome | i'm about a third through the thread | [12:56] |
mircea_popescu | a | [12:56] |
mircea_popescu | i have no ideea about it if that's what you're asking | [12:57] |
mircea_popescu | but now since you point it out, let us help people out. | [12:57] |
markedathome | :-) | [13:00] |
kakobrekla | mornin | [13:03] |
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mircea_popescu | heya | [13:04] |
gigavps | good morning | [13:04] |
mircea_popescu | there was something i wanted to talk to you about kakobrekla but now i dont remember what. | [13:04] |
kakobrekla | hm | [13:04] |
kakobrekla | me neither | [13:04] |
mircea_popescu | lol k. hopefully it comes back to me. | [13:05] |
kakobrekla | :) | [13:05] |
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mircea_popescu | so there markedathome, the thing is explained. | [13:11] |
markedathome | off to read it | [13:11] |
markedathome | ok, so bitcoinica registered/incorporated in New Zealand. who saw that one? | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | i did. | [13:19] |
mcorlett | markedathome: Finally! | [13:32] |
markedathome | ah there is someone looking for a rsponse from you re. btcsocial.net/com on btalk | [13:33] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: Was there some reason for New Zealand? | [13:33] |
markedathome | he is at school/college there | [13:34] |
markedathome | christchurch? | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | ya i thought he was studing in christchurch neh ? | [13:34] |
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vragnaroda | That's what he was doing in Singapore. Where's he going next? :o | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell dolanduk fix your connection dood. | [13:35] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | it's just what i heard, no ideea rly. didn't look to deeply into the entire matter. | [13:35] |
markedathome | exchange programme? | [13:35] |
markedathome | in otc 6 nicks including dolanduk disappeared at around the same time. maybe it's an ISP/peering problem | [13:37] |
mcorlett | I thought he was going to study in Australia(?) | [13:37] |
mircea_popescu | he;'s been doing it back and forth like 20 times | [13:38] |
mcorlett | Mr. Tong must be having a hard time deciding. | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | no i meand donald duck lol | [13:39] |
mcorlett | lol | [13:40] |
markedathome | what *is* he studying? psychology? economics? how to panic a bunch of nerds? | [13:40] |
mcorlett | markedathome: I call dibs on that last one. | [13:40] |
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mircea_popescu | the later would be ecology ? | [13:42] |
markedathome | mcorlett: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75295.0 re. domain names | [13:43] |
mcorlett | markedathome: Right, thanks for the heads up. | [13:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133500506488.jpg << isn't she juicy. | [13:46] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Apparently she didn't get the note regarding the dress code. | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | i thought the exact opposite. | [13:47] |
mcorlett | She /did/ get the note? | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | well yea ? | [13:48] |
mcorlett | The only workplace that would allow for something like that would have to be Mircea's basement. | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | plenty of nicer workplaces in yurp do naked fridays. | [13:48] |
gigavps | naked fridays | [13:55] |
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mircea_popescu | yee | [13:59] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: where does this take place? | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | hmm, i am guessing i needto break out the proof | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/8606.html << there. | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | restaurants. bars. offices. airplanes. | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | bowling alleys. whatever have you. | [14:00] |
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vragnaroda | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133364534885.jpg <-- That looks like a typical restaurant. | [14:04] |
mcorlett | Polimedia srl is the manager of success in the Romanian market. | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | the guy on the left has such a truckdriver mug on him huh | [14:05] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Haha, psy on the forums found your girl: http://i33.tinypic.com/5zicgj.jpg | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | lolz | [14:06] |
mcorlett | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77457.msg862162#msg862162 | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | wait, she exists nao ?! | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | i am shocked. | [14:06] |
mcorlett | "Who gave you that black eye? Was it Mircea Popescu himself?" | [14:06] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | ahhh, the forum delivers! | [14:07] |
mircea_popescu | almost when i thought we're going to be devoid of drama | [14:07] |
mcorlett | shakaru is nothing compared to this! | [14:08] |
gigavps | lolwut | [14:08] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: his woman speaks for you? | [14:08] |
gigavps | this* | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | is that problematic ? | [14:09] |
mcorlett | She's MPOE-PR. | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | hehe i guess in a sense your 1 satoshi did in the end deliver mcorlett | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | best fee ever spent i'd say | [14:09] |
mcorlett | Satoshi /always/ delivers. | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | i guess we're only beginning to grasp the deep truth behind that simple statement. | [14:10] |
gigavps | mcorlett: you ready to do another mining contract? | [14:10] |
mcorlett | Terms? | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | gigavps : how would you like to marketmake a difficulty-based option ? | [14:11] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu i'll pass thanks | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | i've tried till i got fucking bored with it, i have not the brains or knowledge or both to put together a valuation moel | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | mk. | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | need a competent miner to do this. | [14:12] |
gigavps | mcorlett: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77442.0 | [14:12] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu with the new equipment that is coming, the diff could be 6m and I will still be making money | [14:12] |
gigavps | :) | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | but you know what an option isright ? | [14:13] |
gigavps | yes, we have been through this before | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | a ok. | [14:13] |
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gigavps | lol | [14:14] |
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cheebydi | dat raffel, awesome thing gigavps! | [14:18] |
gigavps | thanks | [14:18] |
gigavps | tried to come up with something good | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | i'm so curious how many tix it sells. when does it close again ? | [14:19] |
gigavps | it closes next friday at 3pm EST | [14:19] |
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mircea_popescu | 27th ya | [14:19] |
gigavps | so 7pm UTC | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | so what's the bitcoin-otc-eu eightball say, btc/usd headed up ? down ? | [14:20] |
gigavps | up | [14:20] |
cheebydi | Just bought a couple of tickets, we'll see how it goes, I hope you're gonna break even or make some profit :) | [14:20] |
gigavps | thanka cheebydi | [14:21] |
gigavps | thanks* | [14:21] |
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mircea_popescu | ~500 tickets doesn't sound like a bridge too far by any means. | [14:21] |
gigavps | i'm pretty sure it's a first in the bitcoin world | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | as far as i know. | [14:21] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: the largest jackpot to date was around 280BTC so we are pushing the limits i think | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | i thought 50gh/s for a week is about 250 btc ? did i do my math wrong ? | [14:22] |
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gigavps | http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php | [14:23] |
gigavps | + there will probably be a diff drop before the raffle ends | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | o, you think ? | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | with all the gear coming online i was thinking maybe it evens out/grows a little | [14:25] |
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mircea_popescu | was estimating under 1.5mn now i see 1.53, ~800 blocks to go. | [14:26] |
markedathome | bitcoinica on forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/21/bitcoinica-registers-in-new-zealand-for-bitcoin-margin-trading/ | [14:26] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: psy's mad: http://i.imgur.com/RSFbz.png | [14:26] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:26] |
mcorlett | He's quoting his post with the WHOIS info and the pic in every MPEx thread he can get his hands on. | [14:26] |
mircea_popescu | o wow, nice markedathome | [14:27] |
mircea_popescu | lol am i missing something here mcorlett ?! | [14:27] |
markedathome | it was just posted in #bc-news | [14:27] |
mircea_popescu | wow this is huge | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | Bitcoinica Registers in New Zealand for Bitcoin Margin Trading | [14:28] |
Blitzboom | why do they get a fucking article? | [14:28] |
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mircea_popescu | registered corp. | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | AS a financial services provider. | [14:28] |
markedathome | isn't the guaranteed liquidity 50? or did it change with the new TOS? | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | and paid ~200$ to the famished editor. | [14:29] |
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Blitzboom | “I support Zhou Tong — he could be a worthy adversary for Jamie Dimon or Lloyd Blankfein | [14:29] |
Blitzboom | this is ridiculous | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | it's not you saying it :) | [14:30] |
Blitzboom | yeah, didn’t add "" | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | im just saying, what do you care. the guy supports him. | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | people supported dan quayle ffs. | [14:30] |
Blitzboom | it’s like supporting mcdonald’s | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | and people do. | [14:30] |
Blitzboom | they do | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | i must admit i dunno about blankfein but it'll take a little moar beard for to be adversary to dimon. | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | mayhap i be mistaken, but... | [14:31] |
gigavps | lol | [14:37] |
gigavps | my fav thus far from MPOE-PR "The deeper the hole you dig the further you will have to climb out, and Mr. P is easily the least forgiving type you will meet in your lifetime." | [14:37] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: you are the least forgiving type? | [14:38] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: you must have really done a number on her | [14:38] |
gigavps | lol | [14:38] |
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mircea_popescu | hm ? | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | o lol | [14:45] |
mcorlett | lol | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | myea, i have a... reputation. | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno why, honest. im actually a very sensible, understanding and upon ocasion caring type. | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | i guess people just misunderstand me a lot. | [14:46] |
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Blitzboom | gigavps: hahahaha | [14:48] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: i think i will now refer to you as Mr. P | [14:53] |
JWU42 | Not Master P ? | [14:54] |
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JWU42 | I would love to hear mircea_popescu rap... | [14:54] |
JWU42 | ;) | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu | i can't sing to save my life. | [14:54] |
gigavps | lol Master P | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | actually as far as recording artists names go | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | that one isn't the worst i ever heard. | [14:55] |
gigavps | so Masta P, i still don't understand why MPOE-PR speaks for you | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu | cause i don't have the time and patience to go through the forum | [14:56] |
gigavps | i know the feeling | [14:56] |
* | gigavps watches his day job suffer accordingly | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu | right, so it's actually helpful. the girl's pretty sharp too | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu | maybe a bit wild. | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu | then again... heck. girls should be wild. | [14:57] |
gigavps | lol, not so sharp on forum etiquette | [14:58] |
gigavps | unless this is your plan all along | [14:58] |
mircea_popescu | as far as i know that's an age old problem. new kid in the class gets a ruffling | [14:58] |
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gigavps | well, advertising your wares in others threads is something i would consider not good for business | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | how do you mean ? | [15:00] |
gigavps | i believe this sums it up nicely -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77265.msg858727#msg858727 | [15:00] |
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mircea_popescu | hm | [15:01] |
gigavps | i would recommend you get the whips and chains out | [15:02] |
mircea_popescu | in principle i can see your point. this particular instance reads to me as a special case. | [15:03] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: i would have to disagree with you | [15:04] |
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gigavps | she has shat in the PPT thread, which is pretty much the top players in lending and glbse, the exact people you are trying to get over to MPEx | [15:05] |
mircea_popescu | actually, it's the exact players that managed to cut themselves out of my earlier overture with the cdos | [15:06] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think i actually want them on mpex. | [15:06] |
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gigavps | i thought MPEx was catering to the top tier of bitcoin? | [15:07] |
mircea_popescu | it is. | [15:07] |
gigavps | brokers as it were | [15:07] |
mircea_popescu | that's the very thing. | [15:07] |
kakobrekla | also shitstorm over here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77457.msg862205#msg862205 | [15:07] |
mircea_popescu | lol that forum. | [15:08] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: i can tell you who's making money in bitcoin and who's not | [15:08] |
mircea_popescu | it baffles me people continue to take it serious. | [15:09] |
gigavps | and you probably want the people making money on MPEx | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | gigavps : people who can't get gpg going and pretend to be big dogs in a cryptocurrency are already batting one short. | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | then the recent ridiculousness with bringing pirate to mass market... | [15:09] |
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mircea_popescu | i have no problem if they want to lose their own money. | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | when they start involving joe bitcoin with 5 in his account i draw the line | [15:09] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: they all have gpg | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | so in short, the problems here run deep. i have no doubt they will resolve eventually. | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | but i fear that's not going to be a quick and easy fix. | [15:10] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: is this your company -> http://www.firme.info/polimedia-srl-cui22530016/indicatori-financiari.html | [15:14] |
mircea_popescu | yup, one of. | [15:15] |
mircea_popescu | the results are published on my blog since about forever, course ppl here don't usually read romanian. | [15:15] |
gigavps | google translate is a wonderful thing ;) | [15:15] |
mircea_popescu | well it doesn't help you locating it on my blog now does it. | [15:16] |
gigavps | probably not | [15:16] |
gigavps | anyway | [15:16] |
gigavps | i hope this strategy works for you | [15:16] |
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mircea_popescu | as i was saying to brendio : transparency is a great thing, | [15:16] |
mircea_popescu | people SHOULD be doing this sort of thing on a regular basis. i dunno why they don't | [15:17] |
mircea_popescu | and i dunno why is it such a wonder and marvel in the end. but anyway. | [15:17] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: i hope you change the world | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu | as to the strategy working : mpex is doing about 2/3 or so of all bitcoin securities. | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu | so, to be perfectly clear, being allowed on it is the favor. | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu | not going on it. going on it is what one's thankful for. | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu | course if glbse ever gets around to actually showing monthly volumes we'd see if that 2/3 is really 4/5 or whatever. | [15:19] |
markedathome | mircea_popescu: you could scrape the volume from the asset pages. It is supposed to be rolling 30 day volume | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | from what i can see it'stotal volume from the opening day. | [15:20] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | WTS BTC 4 Alipay | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway. | [15:20] |
rg | and then i think to myself | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | i could scrape it from the twitter feed i guess, but dayum | [15:20] |
rg | what a wonderful world | [15:21] |
mircea_popescu | so much effort. | [15:21] |
rg | gigavps: are you in EST time zone? | [15:21] |
gigavps | correct | [15:21] |
rg | go to sleep | [15:21] |
kakobrekla | mircea_popescu, wait a month and scrape it from #bitcoin-assets-trades | [15:21] |
gigavps | baby wakes up early | [15:21] |
mircea_popescu | that's a great ideea kakobrekla | [15:21] |
mircea_popescu | an even better ideea would be, can't the bot have a command ? pretty please ? | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | per asset and per exchange ? | [15:22] |
kakobrekla | talk to Azelphur | [15:22] |
kakobrekla | :) | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | hey azelphur, you're hereby highlighted. | [15:22] |
markedathome | yeah, i can't remember when 2.0 went live though | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | so let me get this straight gigavps | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | you are juggling one day job, one immense server farm and a fresh baby ? | [15:23] |
mircea_popescu | are you trying to what, lose weight fast ? | [15:23] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: mining farm runs itself | [15:23] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: luckly i have a wonderful wife that does most of the work with the baby | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | color me impressed, seriously. i don't feel equal to that taks. | [15:24] |
rg | color ME bad | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | the reason i don't mine is that i can't be hassled with the work for keeping miners going | [15:24] |
kakobrekla | lol | [15:24] |
JWU42 | ;) | [15:24] |
rg | i wanna sex u uppppppppppp | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | hey rg, you know about rap and stuff, how's Master P sound ? | [15:24] |
gigavps | rg: why are you listening to color me bad | [15:25] |
rg | im not | [15:25] |
rg | i just know the song | [15:25] |
rg | hehe | [15:25] |
JWU42 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ZvzIOO6aU | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | is that a rickroll ? | [15:25] |
JWU42 | no | [15:25] |
JWU42 | promise | [15:25] |
rg | any time someone says 'color me |
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rg | i say | [15:25] |
rg | color me BADD | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | you just said color ME bad not color me BADD | [15:25] |
rg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Me_Badd | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | go back and edit it. | [15:25] |
rg | well i just woke up and its 824am | [15:25] |
rg | so i think im doing pretty well so far | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | no excuses. | [15:25] |
rg | someone left the refridgerator open all night | [15:26] |
JWU42 | back to 5.20 we go | [15:27] |
mircea_popescu | have them go back and edit it. | [15:27] |
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mcorlett | JWU42: Sell sell sell? | [15:27] |
rg | mircea_popescu: a refridgerator is akin to your romanian ice cave | [15:27] |
rg | it keeps our food cold | [15:27] |
JWU42 | yes | [15:27] |
JWU42 | sell low and buy high | [15:28] |
JWU42 | ;) | [15:28] |
mcorlett | Sound advice! | [15:28] |
JWU42 | wealth transfer and what not | [15:28] |
mcorlett | "Redistribution of wealth" | [15:28] |
rg | ;;ticker | [15:28] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.18552, Best ask: 5.21876, Bid-ask spread: 0.03324, Last trade: 5.1855, 24 hour volume: 116408, 24 hour low: 5.10103, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [15:28] |
mcorlett | rg: Try that again. | [15:29] |
JWU42 | mcorlett: sure - that is always my goal - I is not a capitalist pig ;) | [15:29] |
mcorlett | ;;ticker | [15:29] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.1841, Best ask: 5.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01589, Last trade: 5.1841, 24 hour volume: 116607, 24 hour low: 5.10103, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [15:29] |
rg | ;;ticker | [15:31] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.18411, Best ask: 5.19989, Bid-ask spread: 0.01578, Last trade: 5.19989, 24 hour volume: 116836, 24 hour low: 5.10103, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [15:31] |
mircea_popescu | a well, exercised all calls at 5.0 | [15:34] |
mircea_popescu | my inept guess is that the top is in. | [15:34] |
markedathome | hope so, reversed my bitcoinica position last night | [15:34] |
JWU42 | I need to look closer at bitcoinica | [15:35] |
JWU42 | can't remember seeing anyhting about selling short in the UI | [15:35] |
markedathome | get zt to give you a free $ to play | [15:35] |
JWU42 | and jesus the spread | [15:36] |
markedathome | you change market to limit in sell or buy. use stop, trailing stop is just a disaster . | [15:36] |
JWU42 | .19 | [15:36] |
JWU42 | K | [15:36] |
JWU42 | got it | [15:36] |
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markedathome | normally it is around 10, went up to 26-29 yesterday | [15:36] |
mircea_popescu | kinda broad huh | [15:37] |
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mcorlett | Playing on the exchanges is at best a zero-sum game, so I've been avoiding it with a passion. | [15:37] |
gigavps | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77457.msg862219#msg862219 | [15:38] |
markedathome | 1$ from zhou https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44454.0 | [15:38] |
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markedathome | i thought might as well gamble, and went in at 10:1 :-) so i fully expect to mint it by tuesday, or be zhoutonged. | [15:39] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: now polimedia.us is associated with 419 scams? | [15:39] |
mcorlett | markedathome: I give you ten minutes until you get squeezed at 10:1. | [15:39] |
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markedathome | depends on what my liquidation price is :-) | [15:40] |
mcorlett | Playing it safe? | [15:40] |
markedathome | i'm not as bad as the guy who posted his exact position and got wiped out about half an hour later | [15:40] |
mcorlett | lol I remember that | [15:40] |
mcorlett | He immediately declared Bitcoinica a scam afterwards. | [15:41] |
gigavps | i remember that | [15:41] |
markedathome | and threatened lawyers. | [15:41] |
gigavps | whoops | [15:41] |
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rg | why does everyone think pirate is a scammer all of a sudden | [15:44] |
rg | and i HATE those emails | [15:44] |
rg | like polimedia does | [15:44] |
rg | i get them from some indian company | [15:44] |
rg | they wont leave me alone | [15:44] |
rg | they spam me every week | [15:44] |
mcorlett | What the hell is "UltimaFund"? | [15:47] |
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markedathome | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50807.0, 2nd msg 'And who are you and why should I trust you with my money?' | [15:51] |
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vragnaroda | markedathome: I wish others got to the point so succintly. ;) | [15:52] |
markedathome | it's getting a bit like that in the lending forum, "hmm... 2 posts from newbie jail, and you only want a btc for rep building" | [15:54] |
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mircea_popescu | gigavps it is ? | [15:54] |
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gigavps | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77457.msg862219#msg862219 | [15:55] |
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mircea_popescu | lol ok. i'd imagine it could be a nice try, if it weren't a day late a dollar short as they say. | [15:55] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: it might be best if you start speaking for yourself on the forums, otherwise your friend is going to end up doing you a disservice IMHO | [15:56] |
mircea_popescu | people curious can obviously come here. | [15:57] |
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gigavps | ^ that is free advice though, so take it for what it is worth | [15:57] |
vragnaroda | http://blog.spywareguide.com/2008/02/the_right_way_the_wrong_way.html <--- Wtf is this shit? | [15:58] |
mircea_popescu | bloggers nobody heard about getting shocked that someone'd talk to them, seems to me. | [15:58] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, if we're trying to discredit me i'd hope we'd find something better than a) that i actually have dns records ; b) that the pr girl actually exists ; c) that i can afford to finance deficits of a company for years on end or d) that some nut wrote who knows what in 2008. | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | course that might just be my optimistic streak. | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | for instance we could point out that im about to fucking sue freenode over the fact that i filed a claim for my trademark about four weeks ago and i still don't have that channel. | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | and they're going to be pompous asses for a few more days and then i'll actually file and then it'll suck for everyone and o woes. | [16:06] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: i guess you can handle freenode i one of two ways | [16:09] |
mircea_popescu | well they're the last people i want to sue ;/ | [16:10] |
NeedHelp__ | Hello dear community! | [16:10] |
rg | gigavps is about to drop a knowleddge egg | [16:10] |
rg | on your face | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | hello NeedHelp__. | [16:10] |
NeedHelp__ | Is anyone here who can help me out to change some PSC into BTC? | [16:10] |
gigavps | you can work with them to get what you want | [16:10] |
NeedHelp__ | hello mircea:) | [16:10] |
gigavps | or you can create more drama | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | gigavps : they wanted me to file some thing, promising that it will be "at most one month" | [16:10] |
rg | or you can hire me | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | that was on the 25th of march | [16:10] |
rg | and ill turn it into a horror show | [16:10] |
rg | a proper horror show | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | and promising that "they have special channels exactly for actual trademark claioms to speed up the process" | [16:11] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: so what is wrong with that? | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | i don't see much speeding up. | [16:11] |
* | markedathome says ''create more drama! create more drama!' | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | other than the fact that it's about to go over their self given and somewhat generous term ? nothing. | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | something makes me suspect the 25th will come and go tho. | [16:11] |
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gigavps | so they have a framework within which to work | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | yaya | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | i have some legal rights with which to work | [16:11] |
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mircea_popescu | so suppose they don't piss me off too much, we all end up happy. | [16:12] |
gigavps | glbse about pulled the run out from under me | [16:12] |
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gigavps | woke up to a shit storm | [16:12] |
mircea_popescu | ya, that was some pretty nasty shit. | [16:12] |
* | rg starts a slander campaign | [16:12] |
mircea_popescu | a shit storm, mind you, which was in large part swirling around the girl you want me to beat. | [16:12] |
rg | just kidding, everything i say is a slander campaign | [16:12] |
gigavps | but it was fixed before IPO | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [16:13] |
JWU42 | gigavps: has nefario ever confirmed the transfer fee at .25%? | [16:13] |
JWU42 | he was working on it last I knew... | [16:14] |
gigavps | he can turn transfer fees on/off for each asset | [16:14] |
rg | lets get retarded in here | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | lol. they still haven't gotten past that ? | [16:14] |
JWU42 | I just want to send him the BTC owed for the shares I transferred and be "clean" | [16:14] |
gigavps | you can send them to the glbse user "server" | [16:15] |
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Blitzboom | so, why is everybody so mad recently? | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla can you put some bans on these two ? just a notice to fix connection or something | [16:18] |
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rg | because you touch yourself at night | [16:18] |
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Blitzboom | >when they start involving joe bitcoin with 5 in his account i draw the line | [16:18] |
Blitzboom | that doesn’t sound like you | [16:18] |
Blitzboom | protecting the small guys from a scam | [16:18] |
Blitzboom | potential scam | [16:18] |
mircea_popescu | Blitzboom i'd guess pirate hasn't been seen in a few days and people are starting to wake up. | [16:18] |
mircea_popescu | why doesn't it sound like me ? | [16:19] |
rg | mircea_popescu: he's around | [16:19] |
rg | just not active in -otc | [16:19] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: are you serious | [16:19] |
Blitzboom | because you are more elitist | [16:19] |
markedathome | er what? [14:12:48] |
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Blitzboom | if joe fucks up it’s his fault etc. | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | elitism is exactly it tho. | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | nah, not exactly. | [16:19] |
rg | markedathome:i assume that to mean something about his baby | [16:19] |
markedathome | today or a while ago? | [16:19] |
gigavps | markedathome: a while ago | [16:20] |
gigavps | when i was launching my bond | [16:20] |
rg | there's so much drama | [16:20] |
rg | when did all this happen | [16:20] |
mircea_popescu | while you were sleepin | [16:20] |
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markedathome | ah, i thought something about the gigamining and freezing of interaccount transfers | [16:20] |
mircea_popescu | well that. | [16:20] |
markedathome | had happened today, not last week/2 weeks | [16:20] |
rg | hrm | [16:21] |
rg | mircea | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [16:21] |
markedathome | or whenever it was, though coming shortly after the goat fiasco it seemed determined to drive glbse 2.0 into the ground | [16:21] |
rg | i want to buy a controlling interest in a company | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [16:21] |
rg | just to run it into the ground | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | um | [16:21] |
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rg | any suggestions | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | AAPL | [16:22] |
* | markedathome laughs | [16:22] |
rg | no a bitcoin share | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | give goat a bitcoin | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | he's going to run three into the ground anyway. | [16:22] |
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gigavps | mircea_popescu: Goat is coming over to your exchange right? | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | if he is i wasn't aware of it | [16:22] |
rg | doubtful | [16:22] |
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markedathome | don't think so, he balked on the 20BTC registration didn't he? | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | he'd have to come up with more of a business plan than "here's my placeholder site which i don't have time to update" | [16:23] |
rg | so many people did | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | "bnut you can trust me cause other ppl say so" | [16:23] |
Blitzboom | no, he wants to create a super anonymous stock exchange | [16:23] |
markedathome | he is talking about doing his own exchange as a tor hidden site | [16:23] |
Blitzboom | "100% regulation free, 100% free market" | [16:23] |
rg | what is with everyone and anonymity | [16:23] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: and MPEx looks any better? | [16:23] |
rg | dont they realize thats going to be the end of us | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | gigavps what do you mean ? | [16:23] |
rg | theyre going to use the anonymity to exploit us | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | lmao rg you pansy. shuddup and exploit. | [16:23] |
rg | they being the govt | [16:24] |
rg | no i wont roll over and let people confuse issues. | [16:24] |
gigavps | mircea_popescu: MPEx isn't exactly the design wonder of the world | [16:24] |
markedathome | rg: depends on whether the contract for the shares allows controlling interest in the company | [16:24] |
markedathome | well no but it is updated frequently | [16:24] |
mircea_popescu | we're not talking desing. we're talking infomation. if you have a rig and can't EVER put pictures of it up it raises flags. | [16:24] |
rg | markedathome: i just want to boss someone around. | [16:24] |
rg | i need to feel like a big man | [16:24] |
markedathome | hire a PFY? | [16:24] |
mircea_popescu | i couldn't care less how his site was designed | [16:25] |
mircea_popescu | i want to see his rigs. | [16:25] |
rg | this is boring | [16:26] |
rg | now thato ur ipo sold out | [16:26] |
rg | theres no activity | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, ima go out to eat. everybody DONT PANIC! line up in an orderly fashion and we can discuss the many things i'm doing wrong when im back, which should be still today. | [16:26] |
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rg | can pywallet do things like tally my totals for the month | [16:27] |
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markedathome | um, no idea,maybe the -coderr client can? | [16:28] |
markedathome | i presume you mean separate totals for addresses? | [16:28] |
rg | yeah | [16:28] |
rg | just for our company cwallet | [16:28] |
rg | wallet* | [16:28] |
Blitzboom | gigavps, why do you think are people going crazy for mining bonds? | [16:28] |
rg | our billing system keeps track but i dont trust it | [16:28] |
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rg | id rather see what really comes through the wallet | [16:29] |
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rg | Blitzboom: fad.. nothing else to invest in? | [16:29] |
markedathome | oh, er, that can be done using the cli, by using setaddress or something and listtransactions | [16:29] |
gigavps | Blitzboom: mining can be very profitable | [16:29] |
gigavps | if done correctly | [16:29] |
rg | markedathome: yeah but that will require hacky parsing | [16:29] |
rg | to total | [16:29] |
Blitzboom | i am sure it can, the question is just whether you ever get the BTC back | [16:29] |
rg | someone is running a private pool on bitvps | [16:30] |
Blitzboom | my guess is people view it as some kind of hedge | [16:30] |
rg | i think its misconfigured | [16:30] |
gigavps | Blitzboom: it is easy to get caught up in buying top kit though, so profitability quickly dwindles for most miners | [16:30] |
rg | it sucks up a lot of juice | [16:30] |
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kakobrekla | !bc,convert eur | [16:53] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 5.14607 U.S. dollars = 3.89411275 Euros | [16:53] |
kakobrekla | meh | [16:53] |
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mcorlett | kakobrekla: lol | [17:17] |
kakobrekla | what | [17:17] |
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kakobrekla | its just temp | [17:17] |
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kakobrekla | y so quiet | [17:23] |
markedathome | all of the purchases yesterday have arrived | [17:24] |
rg | i am kicking ass in blackjack today | [17:26] |
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mcorlett | rg: You shouldn't gamble. | [17:27] |
rg | i know | [17:28] |
rg | ofcourse now that im up | [17:30] |
rg | bitjack is starting to throw errors | [17:30] |
rg | and i lose my bets | [17:30] |
rg | now im up 400 chips | [17:31] |
rg | i think im gonna cash out | [17:31] |
* | rg tempting fate | [17:31] |
rg | ok | [17:35] |
rg | lost it all | [17:35] |
rg | (not joking) | [17:36] |
mcorlett | [17:38] | |
rg | i rebounded | [17:38] |
rg | im back up 100 chips | [17:38] |
rg | i had 20 chips left | [17:39] |
rg | but its about to error again | [17:39] |
rg | and take .20 btc | [17:39] |
rg | wow | [17:48] |
rg | somehow i managed to rebound | [17:48] |
rg | and am up 200 chips | [17:48] |
rg | if i get up to 300 im quitting | [17:49] |
mcorlett | rg: How's that working out for 'ya? | [18:00] |
rg | fine | [18:01] |
rg | not dead yet! | [18:01] |
rg | god damn | [18:05] |
rg | another server error | [18:05] |
rg | how does this shit stay in business | [18:05] |
mcorlett | Ask yourself... | [18:07] |
rg | well im bored | [18:08] |
rg | and only bet .5 btc | [18:08] |
markedathome | freeroll at sealswithclubs instead | [18:08] |
rg | but there are people who play this shit every day | [18:08] |
rg | all day | [18:08] |
rg | i dont know how to do poker | [18:08] |
rg | ive never gambled in my life before | [18:08] |
rg | blackjack is the easiest | [18:08] |
markedathome | there's a thread on bitcointalk with all the sites divided into which casino games they support | [18:09] |
markedathome | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75883.0;all | [18:10] |
rg | i just use bitjack | [18:11] |
rg | and bitcoingamer.com | [18:11] |
rg | bitcoingamer is more fun | [18:11] |
rg | blackjack! | [18:12] |
rg | 220 chips | [18:12] |
rg | ok | [18:14] |
rg | now its gone | [18:14] |
rg | 100% | [18:14] |
rg | no chance for rebound | [18:14] |
rg | nothin like 3 dealer blackjacks in a row | [18:15] |
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mcorlett | rg: You had it coming. | [18:40] |
rg | i know but it was fun while it lasted | [18:40] |
rg | and thats all that counts | [18:40] |
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mcorlett | Man, what a success this Kony poster campaign was! | [19:28] |
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rg | i need a new BitVPS service tested | [19:35] |
rg | anyone care to volunteer? | [19:36] |
markedathome | yeah go on | [19:37] |
markedathome | rg with what do you need testing? | [19:40] |
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mcorlett | markedathome: He's just teasing you. | [19:48] |
markedathome | thought he'd have a new bitcoin poker site up or something :-) | [19:48] |
rg | im not teasing | [19:50] |
rg | im trying to get it running | [19:50] |
rg | ;;ticker | [19:50] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.18588, Best ask: 5.19801, Bid-ask spread: 0.01213, Last trade: 5.18587, 24 hour volume: 124478, 24 hour low: 5.10103, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [19:50] |
markedathome | woot! bitcoinica gain! :-) | [19:51] |
markedathome | and I'm all green | [19:51] |
mcorlett | Just let us know when you get squeezed. | [19:53] |
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rg | i wonder why this isnt working | [20:02] |
rg | god damn python | [20:02] |
rawrmage | OMG | [20:04] |
rawrmage | MLP ROYAL WEDDING | [20:04] |
rg | 2012-04-21 12:12:36-0500 [-] ServerFactory (TLS) starting on 1563 | [20:12] |
rg | root@chi:/var/log# telnet 0 1563 | [20:13] |
rg | Trying 0.0.0.0... | [20:13] |
rg | Connected to 0. | [20:13] |
rg | Escape character is '^]'. | [20:13] |
rg | Connection closed by foreign host. | [20:13] |
rg | son of a bitch | [20:13] |
rg | WORK | [20:13] |
vragnaroda | From another channel I'm in: “eating dog meat is understandable to me, but not cat meat which tastes like shit.” | [20:13] |
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Bigpiggy01Mining | yup cat is friggin awful just like overcooked unhung rabit | [20:20] |
rg | i give up | [20:21] |
rg | maybe i can ask our resident python whizzard | [20:24] |
rg | to fix it | [20:24] |
rg | Azelphur ? | [20:24] |
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Azelphur | rg: sup | [20:49] |
markedathome | rg: if you want vps testing I'm going to be away for the next 45-60 mins, then around for another 5-6 hrs | [20:51] |
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rg | Azelphur: i has python script | [21:00] |
rg | python script do function me want | [21:00] |
Azelphur | rg has python script. | [21:00] |
rg | but | [21:00] |
rg | python script no work | [21:00] |
rg | ?! | [21:00] |
rg | it kinda work | [21:00] |
Azelphur | :< | [21:00] |
rg | but when connect to socket | [21:00] |
Azelphur | must update CaveOS 1.2 | [21:00] |
rg | instant disconnect! | [21:00] |
rg | rage fill me | [21:00] |
rg | cause log say nothing! | [21:00] |
rg | 2012-04-21 13:25:41-0400 [NNTPProxyServer,0,127.0.0.1] user None disconnected: duration 0, downloaded 0, uploaded 0 | [21:00] |
Azelphur | using twisted? | [21:01] |
rg | yeah it uses twisted | [21:12] |
Azelphur | rg: I'm still quite new with twisted but if you lemme see the code maybe I could have some idea | [21:13] |
Azelphur | besides that, #twisted | [21:13] |
kakobrekla | anyone seen this before http://shrani.si/f/1b/qa/SWkTNoX/untitled.png | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | nope | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | which ver is it ? | [21:15] |
kakobrekla | dunno | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | hey Azelphur. | [21:15] |
kakobrekla | hope wallet isnt corrupted :| | [21:15] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: hi | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | heya! could you get assets bot to make monthly volumes ? | [21:16] |
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mircea_popescu | can wallet even be corrupted ? | [21:16] |
Azelphur | depends if that data is available somewhere | [21:16] |
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mircea_popescu | Azelphur : the data it's listing | [21:16] |
Azelphur | oh, it would have to add it all up? | [21:17] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: I'll probably do it when I finish with btcae | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | that'd be cool. | [21:17] |
Azelphur | because the end goal is to just have the bot talk to the btcae api, then I don't have to do much | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | will it be much later than may ? | [21:18] |
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Azelphur | If I'm still working on this in may I'll jump out a window. | [21:18] |
Azelphur | xD | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | pick a lower floor one | [21:19] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: if 1 user makes 2 buy orders for the same amount, do those orders get merged or show separately? | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | separate. | [21:19] |
Azelphur | cool | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | vragnaroda did i tell you i'm not getting slra blogspam ? WTH DID YOU DO! | [21:25] |
kakobrekla | rg url to blockchain ? | [21:28] |
kakobrekla | found it | [21:30] |
rg | oh i need to move that | [21:35] |
rg | that box will be down soon | [21:35] |
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mircea_popescu | jesus check that out http://www.easthillvet.com/EngorgedTick.jpg | [21:38] |
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rg | ;;ticker | [21:40] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.19992, Best ask: 5.2, Bid-ask spread: 8.00000000005e-05, Last trade: 5.19992, 24 hour volume: 120900, 24 hour low: 5.11, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tricker | [21:41] |
gribble | Error: "tricker" is not a valid command. | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | pff | [21:41] |
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rg | mircea why satoshis | [21:52] |
rg | why not .. regular BTC | [21:52] |
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mircea_popescu | people ask me this on occasion. | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | i usually dunno waht to tell them | [22:01] |
nanotube | "because integers" | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | i think fundamentally bitcoin is kept as two integers, rather than a float | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | am i right ? | [22:06] |
markedathome | bitcoin should be an integer period. no floats should ever touch it | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | so then therefore that'd be why. | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | and ftr, can't it be an integer w/o period ? | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | why do girls on their period get so horny... | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | it's counterevolutionary, not like they can get pregnant. | [22:11] |
rg | cause the female is by nature irrational | [22:12] |
rg | think of another way to say that | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | female not included in R ? | [22:13] |
rg | why dont people pay thier bills | [22:13] |
rg | on time | [22:13] |
rg | we really need to solve this issue with bitcoin | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | moreover i mean ℚ | [22:14] |
rg | they should put a crontab type thing in the client | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | lmao tghat's not an issue with bitcoin | [22:14] |
rg | that pays X amount to an address every set day | [22:14] |
rg | sure it is | [22:14] |
rg | paypal has subscriptions | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | ppl not paying their bills in time is an issue from time immemorial | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | i never do subscriptions. | [22:14] |
rg | if people bill bitcoin as the paypal killer | [22:14] |
rg | shouldnt it do stuff better | [22:15] |
rg | er | [22:15] |
rg | s/the/a/ | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | it should. no subscriptions is better. | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | finnaly caught up approving deposits. jesus god. | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | this is as time consuming as mpoe ;/ | [22:17] |
rg | what does mpoe do | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | was the old options only tradeplace. | [22:18] |
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vragnaroda | rg: Feel free to explain to people how to script shit. | [22:33] |
vragnaroda | There's no need to build into the client. | [22:33] |
rg | most people use the gui | [22:33] |
vragnaroda | Most people don't use bitcoin. | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | whoa wtf someone from glbse must have gotten on mpex | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | 50 F.GIGA.ETF @ 0.00157950BTC = 0.07897500BTC (= 0.42 USD) record of tiny. | [22:36] |
rg | ;;ticker | [22:38] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.2495, Best ask: 5.24956, Bid-ask spread: 5.99999999995e-05, Last trade: 5.24534, 24 hour volume: 87518, 24 hour low: 5.11, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [22:38] |
markedathome | didn't think you accepted anything under 10BTC :-) | [22:51] |
markedathome | or don't people realise the 3x magnitude difference? | [22:51] |
Azelphur | whelp, I just put 585BTC into pirate | [22:57] |
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pigeons | too big to fail | [22:58] |
Azelphur | hope so xD | [22:58] |
pigeons | ;) | [22:58] |
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mcorlett | markedathome: What's with the nicknames? | [23:00] |
markedathome | for some reason i got blasted off, and i don't have a secondary nick (which i'll correct soon enough) | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | http://maze.icomix.com/picturepage/020707/the_eternal_rivalry.jpg | [23:01] |
markedathome | i actually got the ghost command to retrieve my nick without having to wait for it to timeout :-) | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | this is pretty good | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | markedathome : you need to deposit 10 btc, but you can trade whatever you want | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | lol Azelphur gl. | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | i didn't even realise there's that much left out there. | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | mmm day volume 273`497 and it was like 100k earlier. you put ~170 ? | [23:03] |
* | markedathome is sad that I only learnt of mpex about 4 days before it went live, and didn't have chance to get the registration done... | [23:04] |
markedathome | not that I have much to lose^hspend anyway | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | don't be sad! think that soon it'll do over 50k btcs a month and then registration will be 50btc. | [23:04] |
markedathome | can someone privmsg me 20:51-20:58 of this channel? thanks (21:05 is now) | [23:10] |
markedathome | or 21:10 even | [23:10] |
markedathome | rg, how much is your low cost option? | [23:11] |
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mircea_popescu | sudo alsa force-dropdead | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | how could i privmsg you IN THE PAST markedathome | [23:12] |
markedathome | want the channel logs for that time duration? | [23:13] |
markedathome | or is there an archive? | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | a a i see what you mean | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | 1 sec | [23:13] |
markedathome | i have no idea if the 20:51-20-58 is in a different tz for you | [23:13] |
markedathome | :-) | [23:13] |
rg | what low cost option | [23:17] |
JWU42 | markedathome: one sec... | [23:17] |
JWU42 | will pastebin it | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | i sent it JWU42 | [23:17] |
JWU42 | K | [23:17] |
JWU42 | too slow ;) | [23:18] |
JWU42 | not much missed anywho... | [23:18] |
markedathome | JWU42: got it thank you :-) | [23:18] |
JWU42 | np | [23:18] |
rg | ;;ticker | [23:30] |
gribble | Best bid: 5.21703, Best ask: 5.22948, Bid-ask spread: 0.01245, Last trade: 5.25, 24 hour volume: 80382, 24 hour low: 5.11, 24 hour high: 5.48 | [23:30] |
rg | ;;calc 15.58 / 5.21 | [23:30] |
gribble | 2.99040307102 | [23:30] |
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