Forum logs for 21 May 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
thestringpuller fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNfvuJr9164 - your post reminded me of this if you haven't already seen it [00:00]
assbot "Danny and Annie" from StoryCorps - YouTube [00:00]
davout what's next, valuing startup comparatively to developer meat weight? [00:00]
fluffypony thestringpuller: wife's already asleep, will put it on the list to watch tomorrow [00:01]
mircea_popescu davout are you dog ? [00:01]
fluffypony does anyone have a freelance dev that is au fait with QT 5 and C/C++? I have some urgent UI work that needs doing [00:02]
davout i is manul actually [00:03]
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davout after a phone line, a mascot [00:04]
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fluffypony The B-A Manul? [00:04]
moiety :D [00:04]
mircea_popescu fluffypony maybe punkman1 is bored ? [00:04]
davout yes, let's call it samuel [00:05]
fluffypony Samuel the Manul [00:05]
fluffypony rolls off the tongue with a French accent better than an English one [00:05]
davout so the wiki can be called samul [00:05]
davout Samul the manuel [00:05]
fluffypony punkman1: hit me up when around re: the above, if you're not interested maybe you know someone who is [00:05]
davout gosh, i ain't even high [00:06]
moiety if i could have a pet one, i would call him marvin [00:06]
fluffypony moiety: the paranoid android? [00:07]
moiety i didn't know there was such a thing lol [00:07]
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moiety oh now i have heard of that [00:07]
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fluffypony holy fuck I'm too drunk for IRC [00:08]
fluffypony ok I go sleep before I say something else inane, night night [00:10]
mircea_popescu nerds [00:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00420001 = 0.3066 BTC [-] [00:20]
jurov [15:31:28] i want the mods to vet the bitbet queue. << cuz he got his salary today xD [00:22]
jurov throw it all on bitbet [00:22]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:23]
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mjr_ hi all [00:26]
jurov hi mjr_ [00:26]
mjr_ mircea_popescu: [00:26]
mjr_ i was wondering if you had the documentation about when you were under DDOS and set up the IRC/gpg/pastebin alternate trading system [00:27]
mjr_ hey jurov [00:27]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema many ways available [00:27]
gribble The many ways available for talking to MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog ...: ; MPEx DDOSed, an epic. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Requiem for a Dream pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: [00:27]
mircea_popescu ? [00:27]
mjr_ thanks [00:27]
jurov also in missing manul http://explo.yt/post/2014/01/07/MPEx%3A-The-Missing-Manual-2-%28How-to-talk-to-MPEx%29 [00:27]
assbot MPEx: The Missing Manual 2 - How to talk to MPEx - serialized delusions [00:27]
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mjr_ ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [00:38]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user Josh_Rossi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Josh_Rossi&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 [00:38]
mjr_ thanks Jurov [00:38]
mjr_ that was much easier to read than the romanian version :) [00:38]
mircea_popescu there's a romanian version ?! [00:39]
mjr_ i'm not sure [00:39]
mjr_ the first link was in romanian...or rather [00:39]
mjr_ i don't know what language it is in [00:39]
mjr_ and i guessed romanian [00:39]
jurov apparently my contract with benkay stipulates i should shift blame to him at this point [00:39]
mjr_ hehehe [00:39]
mjr_ so what else is new [00:40]
jurov we have spiffy recpetionist [00:40]
mircea_popescu mjr_ link ? [00:40]
jurov *receptionist [00:40]
mjr_ [00:41]
mjr_ One, Two, Threei e un film din a doua parte a carierei lui Cagney (care s-a cam razboit cu studiourile la viata lui, Bette Davis style). Nu putem spune “finalul” carierei zisului dat fiind ca inca facea filme-n 1981, douazeci de ani mai tirziu. [00:41]
mjr_ i have seen some really cool things here [00:42]
mjr_ the logs are really nice [00:42]
mjr_ you can lurk much easier lol [00:42]
thestringpuller what's the poing of #bitcoin-otc if you can't buy btc there ~_~ [00:42]
mircea_popescu mjr_ if you don't actually load an article you just get the main page which loads a random articler [00:42]
mircea_popescu try withiuyt the [00:42]
mjr_ ah ok, i just clicked [00:43]
mjr_ anyway, no big deal [00:43]
mjr_ the missing manual had it all [00:43]
mjr_ i was just dicussing API's with an associaet [00:43]
mjr_ and that was probably the most interesting interface i've ever seen [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 29 @ 0.0057822 = 0.1677 BTC [-] [00:45]
mircea_popescu no argument :p [00:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.00577829 = 0.3756 BTC [-] {6} [00:46]
mircea_popescu wait wasn't rent 75 or something ? [00:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 126 @ 0.00566473 = 0.7138 BTC [-] {8} [00:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47926564 = 0.9585 BTC [+] [00:49]
thestringpuller !ticker h rent [00:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00560000 / 0.00575953 / 0.00619590 (308 shares, 1.77393487 BTC), 7D: 0.00560000 / 0.00642828 / 0.00710000 (2469 shares, 15.87142769 BTC), 30D: 0.00532500 / 0.00647243 / 0.00750000 (8888 shares, 57.52696161 BTC) [00:49]
thestringpuller i guess last month it was [00:50]
thestringpuller hmm [00:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00419267 = 0.1719 BTC [-] {3} [00:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00405021 = 0.1337 BTC [-] {2} [00:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+] [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 16 @ 0.0390596 = 0.625 BTC [+] {3} [01:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00011297 = 0.3389 BTC [+] {3} [01:08]
jurov bdb shouldn't have been replaced by leveldb [01:11]
jurov someday i buy namesys and make shishkin sew reiser4 in there >:D [01:11]
jurov in bticoin 0.7.2 [01:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03319326 = 0.1328 BTC [+] {2} [01:12]
danielpbarron is it supposed to take a week+ for the blockchain to get imported in 0.7.2 ? [01:12]
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dub probably [01:14]
jurov hopefully when mircea finally overthrows washington we can get reiser himself to do it [01:14]
jurov provided he keeps mp's bitches intact [01:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1832 @ 0.00011216 = 0.2055 BTC [-] {2} [01:14]
mircea_popescu lol [01:15]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron what do you mean by imported [01:15]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu, either downloaded or with bootstrap.dat; the checking of the blocks [01:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1968 @ 0.00011002 = 0.2165 BTC [-] {4} [01:15]
mircea_popescu downloading is slow. checking should not be. [01:16]
dub a reasonably modern computer helps, ssd drive helps more [01:16]
danielpbarron what is the bottleneck? my cpu is only topping out at 20% [01:16]
mircea_popescu disk diddling really [01:19]
mircea_popescu dub nobody with a raid cares about ssd :D [01:19]
danielpbarron a raid setup would probably speed it up then? [01:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0332999 = 0.333 BTC [+] [01:20]
mircea_popescu kinda what raid does yes [01:26]
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jurov it can make reads faster by factor of at most [01:27]
[]bot Bet created: Perpetual Obsolescence: iOS 8 Announced in 2014 (http://bitbet.us/bet/858/) [01:28]
mike_c rent did their 2po at 75. as soon as market trading started again it sank. [01:28]
mircea_popescu someone bought @75 ? [01:31]
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Namworld I started playing the game FEZ. Loving it. [01:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0220031 = 0.22 BTC [-] [01:43]
Duffer1 transistor came out today [01:47]
Duffer1 incredible game from the makers of bastion [01:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 177 @ 0.00080356 = 0.1422 BTC [-] {4} [02:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47925027 BTC [-] [02:19]
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mike_c yeah, they sold 175 btc worth at 75. as soon as market trading opened up it dropped into the 60s [02:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0333 = 0.333 BTC [+] [02:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0220031 = 0.22 BTC [-] [02:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03347217 = 0.3347 BTC [+] {5} [02:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 837 @ 0.00420001 = 3.5154 BTC [+] [02:26]
assbot Secrets, lies and Snowden's email: why I was forced to shut down Lavabit | Comment is free | theguardian.com [02:30]
mircea_popescu i find that highly improbable. [02:32]
mircea_popescu "Glenn Greenwald: the state targets dissenters not 'bad guys'" [02:32]
mircea_popescu seems exactly what you'd expect, it's long lost control. [02:32]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00420001 = 0.1806 BTC [+] [02:41]
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mircea_popescu In the first two weeks, I was served legal papers a total of seven times and was in contact with the FBI every other day. (This was the period a prosecutor would later characterize as my "period of silence".) [02:51]
mircea_popescu sounds rather typical of the grossly overactive usg [02:51]
benkay apparently my contract with benkay stipulates i should shift blame to him at this point // oh you [02:56]
benkay a contract covering work for pay is an interesting beast. should it include an address for payment so that when published in the event of breach anyone can verify that payment was not made? [03:00]
benkay this is a purely theoretical question. [03:00]
mircea_popescu up to the parties. [03:00]
mircea_popescu it's a field in which a lot of experimental work still has to be poured before we really know [03:01]
benkay and jurov how dare you intimate that anyone sent me any btc?! i live in the states! they'd put me in the gasenwagen! [03:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0220031 = 0.22 BTC [-] [03:01]
benkay i disavow receipt of any btc. [03:01]
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danielpbarron i include the address in the signed contract for exactly that reason [03:04]
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benkay hey princess. [03:06]
benkay !up hecate [03:06]
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benkay handles are getting creative. [03:06]
benkay are there any -assets blessed crypto-only exchanges? [03:10]
benkay !up princessnell [03:11]
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princessnell ty [03:11]
mircea_popescu !up hecate [03:12]
-assbot- You voiced hecate for another 30 minutes. [03:12]
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princessnell have u seen this gem? http://pastebin.com/Zt7fBtRp [03:12]
assbot Open letter to federal scum - Pastebin.com [03:12]
benkay d'oh [03:12]
mircea_popescu princessnell yes. [03:12]
mircea_popescu what the fuck does that mean, another 30 minutes [03:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0220031 = 0.22 BTC [-] [03:14]
benkay princessnell: is that real life? [03:15]
princessnell benkay 'if you see it in MOTHERBOARD, it's so' [03:16]
artifexd I could really use some advice. I find myself in a position that I, honestly, never expected. [03:17]
artifexd The company for which I work is being bought. [03:17]
artifexd It is a small company. Less than 20 people. [03:17]
artifexd Any thoughts or advice for me? Is there any extra information I can provide that would help get better advice? [03:18]
mircea_popescu off twitter : Her: “Will you try a veggie burger for lunch?” Me: “Sure, if the bun's made out of steak.” [03:20]
mircea_popescu artifexd you could help a lot by explaining what exactly are you trying to get advice for [03:21]
dignork artifexd: M&A is fun, if you are bought by a bigger company, try to inflate your position now, might get moar money [03:21]
mircea_popescu sleeping with the acquirer's wife ? keeping your red stapler ? how to cook a veggie burger with a steak bun ? [03:21]
artifexd That's the thing. I don't know what advice I need. [03:21]
mircea_popescu well are you trying to solve any particular problem ? [03:21]
mircea_popescu do you have any sort of goal ? [03:22]
mircea_popescu help us out here lol [03:22]
artifexd Goal.... thinking... [03:22]
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artifexd Goal number 1: As much money in a lump payment as possible. [03:22]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: I wanna know how to cook a veggie burger with a steak bun, sounds tasty. [03:22]
artifexd Goal number 2: Maintain the autonomy that I have enjoyed for the last few years. [03:23]
artifexd Goal number 3: A raise. [03:23]
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artifexd I figure the lump sum payment I get from stock options is already set, right? [03:23]
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dignork artifexd: stock options, check taxing, you might want to hold them off [03:25]
artifexd How? Until when? [03:25]
artifexd It isn't an amount that will make me independently wealthy, but it will greatly improve my current situation. [03:26]
dignork artifexd: i'm not a real accountant :), but you should consult one, move to IRA maybe, dunno. [03:26]
artifexd "Inflate my position" What does that mean? The company is small enough that everyone knows my contributions. [03:27]
dignork for a larger company, your previous "rank" might change your salary, so in your interests to achieve highest rank possible [03:28]
dignork it's a game though, if you are too high-ranked, they might fire you, due to position duplicity [03:29]
dignork so don't be a CFO for example [03:29]
artifexd If it makes a difference, I'm a programmer/coder/developer. My official (self-appointed) title is "Deviser and Artifex". [03:30]
mircea_popescu artifexd listen, you need to hire a tax attorney at this point. [03:30]
mircea_popescu there's no way you can get pertinent advice without the details. [03:30]
artifexd That *is* good advice. [03:31]
mircea_popescu blow a few grand on hiring someone, it';s the right time to do it. [03:31]
mircea_popescu you'll discover, even if you overpay today, you'll discover in time you wouldn't have undone it. [03:31]
artifexd Correction: That *is* pertinent advice. [03:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.0042 = 1.26 BTC [-] {2} [03:32]
mircea_popescu and other than that, have an open and relaxed negotiation strategy. tell the acquirer's expert that you aren't interested in anything but a position with the authonomy you enjoyed previously, and they can let you know. [03:33]
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artifexd Any recommendations for what to ask them? I mean, what are things that are in question when one company acquires another? For example, it didn't even occur to me that my salary would change, as mentioned by dignork [03:35]
mike_c is the sale a good thing or is it because the company is struggling? [03:35]
artifexd A good thing. [03:36]
dignork artifexd: some larger company have lame rules defining allowed salalry limits per rank, hope your case would be different [03:36]
dignork company=companies [03:36]
artifexd It has long been the stated goal of our ceo to get bought. [03:37]
artifexd "Long" meaning "since I came onboard" [03:37]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wtf, how do you 'patch secret bug' in open source product ?! [03:37]
benkay %b [03:38]
benkay %t [03:38]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 187 Ask: 277 Last Price: 278 24h-Vol: 128k High: 280 Low: 159 VWAP: 188 [03:38]
asciilifeform what did they have to smoke for this to make sense? [03:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nm that. [03:40]
mircea_popescu official core devs !!1 [03:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: ssd - if there were a hardware raid that worked well with ssd of some description (or, for that matter, vice-versa) i would buy it. on account of hating spindle noise. [03:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno what your noise issue is man, i used to live with the large ventilated felix [03:41]
mircea_popescu sort-of like a large mining rig, except more useless. [03:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 203 @ 0.00420001 = 0.8526 BTC [+] [03:42]
asciilifeform why not simply connect the extant ones? basic problem is that ssd units from same batch tend to die in unison, when used in just about any variant of raid (why - exercise for reader) [03:42]
mircea_popescu this is why you don't use same-manuf for ssds [03:43]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: live with the large ventilated felix << http://www.nzeldes.com/HOC/IronFelix.htm ???! [03:43]
assbot "Iron Felix" meets the Odhner calculator [03:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no lol, this closet sized pdp-clone wannabe [03:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47925 BTC [-] [03:44]
mircea_popescu apparently it doesn't even exist on the internet it was so sikrit [03:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+] [03:45]
mircea_popescu http://isabellelorelai.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/1cifa1.jpg [03:45]
mircea_popescu there you go [03:45]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lol! who even knows how many soviet pdp. [03:46]
mircea_popescu this was actually homebrew, originally made by the atomic physics folks at magurele [03:46]
mircea_popescu eventually it just became a toy for students to play with [03:47]
mircea_popescu but anyway. loud. who cares! [03:47]
asciilifeform how'd you end up sleeping on (in? with?) it ? [03:47]
mircea_popescu cause it was in the physics lab and i was sleepy [03:47]
asciilifeform aha [03:47]
mircea_popescu they had this huge round air vent thing, kinda comfortable to sit in [03:48]
penguirker New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/05/20_this-is-why-distributed-exchanges-are-doomed-to-failure.html [03:49]
assbot this is why distributed exchanges are doomed to failure [03:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, decay experiments, i dunno if you know, are - or were ? - this particular brand of evil. [03:50]
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mircea_popescu "well, by midnight we should have about twelve ticks or so" [03:50]
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mircea_popescu time's 11:30 and the thing ticked once... [03:51]
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mircea_popescu come to think about it, quite exactly like mining. [03:51]
asciilifeform lol yes. i did much the same thing, in a vastly different context (scintillation counter, bio. assay) [03:51]
asciilifeform re: fans/spindles: i know folks of two opposing schools of thought re: comp noise. variant 1 - powerful machine, must sing, like 'harley davidson'; variant 2 - want quiet, like german bmw, not air-cooled 'trabant' [03:51]
mircea_popescu ya i guess im more like 1 [03:52]
asciilifeform (i'm with '2') [03:52]
mircea_popescu heretic [03:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you'd really love my Symbolics 3620 then. [03:52]
mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Măgurele << romania's version of cheliabinks [03:52]
assbot Mgurele - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [03:52]
asciilifeform unambiguous 'harley' [03:53]
asciilifeform (for those innocent: http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/22982/Symbolics-3620 ) [03:55]
assbot Symbolics 3620 - Computing History [03:55]
mircea_popescu pity it never caught on [03:56]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is actually an interesting historical topic. these people never wanted to 'catch on' in the modern sense [03:57]
asciilifeform they made 'ferraris', so to speak [03:57]
asciilifeform then the only folks who could afford them - went broke. [03:57]
mircea_popescu i suspect the problem had a lot more to do with them being plagued by bob becks than anything intentional. [03:58]
asciilifeform (reagan's 'star wars' and the associated pig trough) [03:58]
asciilifeform there's a paper floating about for many years, arguing that SMBX died of gross mismanagement [03:58]
mircea_popescu sounds credible to me. [03:59]
asciilifeform and here's weinreb (recently deceased. one of the founders) on death of same. [03:59]
asciilifeform http://danweinreb.org/blog/why-did-symbolics-fail [03:59]
assbot Why Did Symbolics Fail? | Software and Innovation [03:59]
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mircea_popescu weinreb's passing actually makes me think about the following [04:00]
mircea_popescu suppose the year is 2215. [04:00]
asciilifeform i used to be a quasi-serious student of the subject of 'why smbx dead' - until i realized that i'm getting nowhere, everyone i want to talk to is buried. [04:00]
mircea_popescu willy-nilly the various blogs left by various people important in 2015, if still extant, [04:00]
mircea_popescu have gone through a long list of conservatorships and whatnot [04:01]
mircea_popescu this isn't something we're really too apt to handle, the material published on their own blogs by meanwhile long dead people [04:01]
mircea_popescu i wonder how will it work out [04:01]
asciilifeform naggum's material comes to mind as one example [04:01]
asciilifeform (no real organization, but encyclopaedic completeness at least) [04:01]
mircea_popescu right. the time's advanced enough for this problem to start showing at the edges [04:01]
mircea_popescu in a way it didn't in say 1994. [04:02]
mircea_popescu soon it'll become quite massive. [04:02]
mircea_popescu i mean even the notion of a blog is maybe 20 years old tops. that's within reasonable lifespan. [04:02]
mircea_popescu but approaching the cusp [04:02]
asciilifeform the problem is made somewhat more dire by the fact that the folks traditionally interested in the subject ('library sciences' types) - as i understand - didn't make the jump to electronics really [04:02]
mircea_popescu nor do they have any sort of a clue as to how and why and what and so on [04:03]
mircea_popescu we're perhaps approaching a strange "collapse of the roman empire" situation from an entirely different angle [04:03]
asciilifeform ted nelson (for all his faults) predicted this very same thing, in the 1960s [04:04]
mircea_popescu "At the MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab, fifteen researchers shared a computer with a .001 GHz CPU and .002 GB of main memory." [04:04]
mircea_popescu gotta love the guy's style. [04:04]
mircea_popescu "We had great success amongst primary customers. I think we could have found a lot more of them if our marketing had been better. For example, did you know that Symbolics had a world-class software development environment for Fortran, C, Ada, and other popular languages, with amazing semantics-understanding in the editor, a powerful debugger, the ability for the languages to call each other, and so on? We put a lot of [04:05]
mircea_popescu work into those, but they were never publicized or advertised." [04:05]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:05]
mircea_popescu ok, i win. bob beck sunk symbolix. [04:05]
asciilifeform wtf is a bob beck [04:05]
asciilifeform bob the goatfucker ? [04:05]
mircea_popescu " We at Symbolics were slow to acknowledge this. We believed our own “dogma” even as it became less true. It was embedded in our corporate culture. If you disputed it, your co-workers felt that you “just didn’t get it” and weren’t a member of the clan, so to speak. This stifled objective analysis. (This is a very easy problem to fall into — don’t let it happen to you!)" [04:06]
mircea_popescu heh. [04:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/ [04:06]
assbot The public burning of Bob Beck pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [04:06]
asciilifeform aha! [04:06]
asciilifeform re: weibreb's style... [04:06]
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asciilifeform http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/875/ayjgar.jpg [04:07]
mircea_popescu Also, a lot of Symbolics sales were based on the promise of rule-based expert systems, of which the early examples were written in Lisp. Rule-based expert systems are a fine thing, and are widely used today (but often not in Lisp). But they were tremendously over-hyped by certain academics and by their industry, resulting in a huge backlash around 1988. “Artificial Intelligence” fell out of favor; the “AI Winter [04:07]
mircea_popescu ” had arrived. << yeah. [04:07]
asciilifeform (aka 'chinual') [04:07]
mircea_popescu they mismanaged pretty much every aspect of market dominance. [04:07]
mircea_popescu one should make a jobs vs noftsker case study [04:08]
asciilifeform titanically great product (to the point that, imho, it has never been equalled) but they rode a very particular wave of bezzola, ended up going down with it. [04:09]
mircea_popescu course... i seem to also remember some massive rms drama [04:09]
asciilifeform mostly in head of rms [04:09]
mircea_popescu isn;t it all ? [04:09]
asciilifeform http://danweinreb.org/blog/rebuttal-to-stallmans-story-about-the-formation-of-symbolics-and-lmi [04:09]
assbot Rebuttal to Stallmans Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI | Software and Innovation [04:10]
mircea_popescu "Meanwhile, back at Symbolics, there were huge internal management conflicts, leading to the resignation of much of top management, who were replaced by the board of directors with new CEO’s who did not do a good job" i dunno.. [04:10]
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mircea_popescu "Symbolics signed long-term leases on big new offices and a new factory, anticipating growth that did not come, and were unable to sublease the properties due to office-space gluts, which drained a great deal of money." [04:11]
mircea_popescu the only missing ingredient so far heh. [04:11]
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mircea_popescu "or example, remember that the first viable Windows O/S, release 3.1, came out in in 1990" [04:14]
mircea_popescu wait, 3.1 was viable ?! [04:14]
mircea_popescu in what sense of viability lol [04:14]
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asciilifeform viable in the butugychag sense. you can live there for a bit... [04:14]
asciilifeform with external prodding. [04:14]
asciilifeform so, can live, with steady supply of inmates [04:15]
mircea_popescu right. [04:15]
mircea_popescu "And while I’m setting the record straight, the original (TECO-based) Emacs was created and designed by Guy L. Steele Jr. and David Moon. After they had it working, and it had become established as the standard text editor at the AI lab, Stallman took over its maintenance." [04:20]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [04:20]
mircea_popescu so THIS is the actual root of the emacs wars ? [04:20]
asciilifeform this is a fairly well-known fact (i thought) [04:20]
mircea_popescu well not by me [04:20]
[]bot Bet created: Cardano to Ship in 2014 (http://bitbet.us/bet/859/) [04:20]
mircea_popescu (granted, my interest in this sort of minutia is faint) [04:21]
mircea_popescu o look at that asciilifeform... not a whole lot of confidence. [04:21]
asciilifeform lol [04:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the bob beck thing is epic [04:23]
asciilifeform where do they even get them. [04:23]
mircea_popescu quite [04:23]
mircea_popescu i'll tell you : [04:23]
mircea_popescu there's these things people like doing, like say rubbing their scrotum. and then there's these other things people don't like doing, like cooking and cleanning. [04:24]
mircea_popescu clearly thus therefore cooking and cleanning is stupid, and definitely not something one should learn or study or do well [04:24]
mircea_popescu because nobody ever has to put effort where they already suck, because they don't suck, it's just the problem that's unworthy of attention. [04:24]
mircea_popescu and so they end up with the stupidest contributor doing the most important parts : interfacing with the world. [04:24]
mircea_popescu it is very easy to interface with a computer : it's pinned down in place, mechanical and stupider than you. [04:25]
mircea_popescu it is insanely difficult to interface with the world, mostly because the world is principally made out of people smarter than you will ever be. [04:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'любишь кататься люби и саночки возить' (proverb. 'like sledding? like pulling sled then, too.' [04:25]
mircea_popescu and so... bob beck. [04:25]
moiety I'm turning in, night everyone :] [04:34]
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mircea_popescu "The Economist @TheEconomist · 2h The far-right may triumph in the EU parliament elections but they won't achieve much there" [04:44]
mircea_popescu dude im so fucking sick of the left spin [04:44]
mircea_popescu how about the right accomplishes firing your wife, dear economist, from her "womens studies" uni position ? [04:45]
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F40PH yo [04:51]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Cardano to Ship in 2014 (http://bitbet.us/bet/859/)". Odds: 98(Y):2(N) by coin, 98(Y):2(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,989. [04:55]
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F40PH nooooooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [05:08]
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Azelphur I helped [05:08]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [05:13]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.79, Best ask: 494.58, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 494.58, 24 hour volume: 29696.05623876, 24 hour low: 447.63, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.724107341 [05:13]
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[]bot Bet placed: 50 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (http://bitbet.us/bet/786/)". Odds: 86(Y):14(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1307.03879007 BTC. Current weight: 80,465. [05:22]
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mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/468941331696734208 [05:28]
assbot New study: Hiring managers do not value Liberal Arts degree, said "no degree" would be better: http://t.co/5oWByf23ey (yikes?) [05:28]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [05:32]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.67, Best ask: 496.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.83000, Last trade: 496.5, 24 hour volume: 29266.10215098, 24 hour low: 451.01, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.739040274 [05:32]
artifexd Idea for a bet: Total bet on 786 to exceed 2500BTC [05:33]
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mircea_popescu too easy to manipulate tho [05:34]
mircea_popescu for that matter, 2.5k is certain [05:35]
mircea_popescu 25k moar like a good bar [05:35]
artifexd Sure. If you have that kind of cheddar to throw around, sure. [05:35]
artifexd Seriously? [05:36]
mircea_popescu there's 12mn bitcoins mined./ [05:36]
artifexd That would make for a nice S.BBET dividend. [05:37]
mircea_popescu yes seriously. look at say http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/ [05:37]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 :: 1750.25 B (93%) on Yes, 136.67 B (7%) on No | closed 3 months 3 weeks ago [05:37]
mircea_popescu most volume was in january, not in november. [05:37]
mircea_popescu i'd guess the berkshire bet will have reached half its total bet sum sometime this autumn [05:37]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu [13:14]
mircea_popescu sup [13:14]
fluffypony anarkitty is in the room - she sent me a message on Reddit 3 hrs ago, so presumably she's asleep now [13:14]
mircea_popescu anarkitty hey there [13:15]
mircea_popescu !up anarkitty [13:15]
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mircea_popescu sluts sleep ?! [13:15]
fluffypony idle for 4 hours [13:15]
mircea_popescu that's long enough then :D [13:15]
fluffypony :-P [13:16]
mircea_popescu wait idle for 4 hours on webirc and she didn't get cut off ? helluva great connection she's got [13:16]
mircea_popescu i thought she was in the us. [13:16]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [13:17]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.94, Best ask: 494.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 494.94, 24 hour volume: 23878.21163108, 24 hour low: 455.07, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 484.900683671 [13:17]
mircea_popescu moving up in the world. [13:17]
fluffypony yeah, will take a bit of doing to get through the wall at 500 [13:18]
moiety why do I never get the ping timeout thing? is it my client? [13:18]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: Isn't moiety only getting 1 bitcent an hour? and this dude wants 100x that << if people could make a bitcoin/hour sitting in a us prison we'd definitely need to increase the block rewards. [13:18]
mircea_popescu moiety yes. [13:18]
mircea_popescu ;;seen anarkitty [13:19]
gribble I have not seen anarkitty. [13:19]
mircea_popescu fluffypony lol so she's just not said anything ? [13:19]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: she wasn't voiced [13:19]
fluffypony so when she got here and tried to talk...lol... [13:19]
mircea_popescu o i c [13:19]
mircea_popescu i guess remarkably patient girl then huh. [13:20]
mircea_popescu pankkake: TradeFortress is now known as "Free hugs! ♥" on scamtalk << why is it always the scammers that push the purely formal "be nice to people" angle ? o wait! because that's how mimicry works, and that's what they are! [13:21]
moiety weev said himself “because it's fucking hilarious to demand money from feds for a McVeigh Memorial grove,” adding “I honestly think we need to build statues of them just to piss off federal agents really.” [13:25]
moiety and i still dont believe he is a scammer. [13:25]
mircea_popescu who, weev ? [13:26]
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moiety no tf [13:29]
mircea_popescu didn't he run off with a bunch of bitcoinz ? [13:30]
fluffypony he "lost" 4200 Bitcoins [13:30]
moiety i don't think he did though and i believe he reimbursed what he could out of his own funds [13:31]
mircea_popescu ... [13:31]
mircea_popescu https://blockchain.info/tx/eb37287bdebf6b52553f1538e7c46e0ec4f1cd4701d5c17ad9f6047a0fa52814 you mean this ? [13:31]
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moiety i wasn't really watching the forum through all of this, i knew him in a different capacity [13:31]
pankkake he probably lost them throught CoinLenders. still a scam, running a fractionnal reserve is a scam [13:31]
mircea_popescu moiety like... your bf ? [13:31]
moiety no lol [13:32]
moiety i was a mod at coinchat then he just gave the thing to me when he left [13:32]
mircea_popescu pankkake that's easily believable [13:32]
moiety cus everyone flipped out when it went offline [13:32]
mircea_popescu hardly an argument now is it kitten. [13:33]
moiety no, not an argument, just what i feel [13:33]
mircea_popescu yeah. the problem is that this take in 4k btc, take a vacation for half a year then come back and split a btc or two to the idiots is really very good business. [13:34]
mircea_popescu and if it becomes socially acceptable bitcoin will become entirely sealed off to the poor. [13:34]
mircea_popescu even as it is they have a hard time. [13:34]
moiety lots of people close due to hacks (whether true or not) and don't reimburse anything [13:35]
mircea_popescu and none of them may come back, ever again, in any capacity. [13:35]
mircea_popescu sooner or later people will come to the realisation that reputation is worth a helluva lot than money, [13:35]
mircea_popescu which was in fact truth, plain as day, for as long as the state was weak and the hansa and its successor guilds ruled supreme. [13:36]
fluffypony moiety [13:36]
fluffypony the problem is [13:36]
fluffypony it's hard to say with any degree of certainty that he didn't con people out [13:36]
cazalla tradefortress was on national tv talking about the loss, almost having a laugh [13:36]
fluffypony of their Bitcoin [13:36]
mircea_popescu cazalla he's an aussie ? [13:37]
cazalla yeah [13:37]
cazalla well, lives/lived here, probably an asian student [13:37]
mircea_popescu o another one huh. [13:37]
cazalla i'll see if i can find the recording [13:37]
mircea_popescu good idea [13:38]
cazalla http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-08/bitcoin-site-hacked-founder-says/5078148 audio [13:38]
assbot Australian bitcoin user TradeFortress says site hacked, $1 million in virtual currency stolen - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [13:38]
moiety i know fluffypony it's just too hard for me to believe that [13:38]
fluffypony moiety: let me put it this way [13:38]
fluffypony for that amount of money even the most straight-laced individual would have a hard time not wanting to lift a little [13:38]
fluffypony and once you've stolen a little it snowballs into "how can I steal the whole lot" [13:39]
fluffypony the reason this doesn't happen in big companies is because of the number of people involved [13:39]
fluffypony you'd have to collude with so many [13:39]
mircea_popescu fluffypony except itdoes happen in big companies. [13:39]
fluffypony when you have 1 person holding millions? [13:39]
mircea_popescu the only reason it doesn't happen, as long as it doesn't, is that they don't actually have access to it. [13:39]
mircea_popescu basic corp governance, nobody may write checks on the corp account. [13:40]
fluffypony yes exactly [13:40]
fluffypony old school version of multi-sig [13:40]
fluffypony :-P [13:40]
mircea_popescu not even [13:40]
mircea_popescu see, you simply can not write a check. at all. no sig whatsoever [13:40]
mircea_popescu corp only pays specific types of things to specific types of people and that's that. [13:40]
mircea_popescu which is why random nobodies can't b2b. because for the corp, it's too much like simply being stolen from [13:41]
mircea_popescu so you gotta have a big corp to sell overpriced shit to another big corp [13:41]
mircea_popescu it's a whole bezzle. [13:41]
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mircea_popescu this happens to also be why i'm quite so powerful. sure there's other people with money on twitter, VCs or whatnot. [13:42]
bitcoingirl Mircea I have some questions for you [13:42]
mircea_popescu the difference is that i can write a check for ten millioin dollars to a stripper, if i feel like it [13:42]
mircea_popescu they... not. [13:42]
mircea_popescu bitcoingirl ok but make it quick cause i gotta go to town in a few minutes. [13:42]
mircea_popescu or if not, later today. [13:43]
bitcoingirl can we go to private chate [13:43]
bitcoingirl chat [13:43]
mircea_popescu go ahead [13:43]
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bitcoingirl is it gribble? [13:44]
mircea_popescu lol you go /query mircea_popescu nooblet [13:44]
fluffypony moiety: and just to re-iterate, I don't know the guy, so I'm not judging his character either way, I'm just saying that *anyone* with sole control over that amount of money would have a tough time staying honest [13:44]
BingoBoingo I just can't get over TF losing a decade from his age by becoming insolvent. [13:45]
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fluffypony lol [13:46]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/ONFRysx.jpg [13:46]
moiety i totally understand that. I'm the way I am because I didn't know the business of it all, i knew the character and thats why it's so hard for me to believe [13:46]
cazalla TF probably finished his degree and like a lot of international students, pull a fast one on credit cards etc etc and piss off back home to avoid paying back the debt [13:46]
mircea_popescu !up anarkitty [13:46]
-assbot- You voiced anarkitty for 30 minutes. [13:46]
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mircea_popescu cazalla has an excellent theory, i had no idea he's another zhou tong [13:47]
fluffypony moiety: whenever someone gets arrested for huge amounts of fraud, pedophilia, whatever, they interview all his neighbours and friends and they're always like "we're so shocked, he's such a nice guy!" [13:47]
fluffypony most of the people I'd trust with any portion of my money are not particularly "nice" people. Approachable, sure, and always reasonable, but not nice by any definition of the term. [13:48]
mircea_popescu hey, makes two of us [13:48]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [13:51]
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gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.68, Best ask: 496.65, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 494.68, 24 hour volume: 23910.36995140, 24 hour low: 455.2, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 484.977061657 [13:51]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell anarkitty hey there. ima be out for a few hours, but please don't go anywhere, i wanna talk to you whjen i'm back. you can talk to me directly by going /query mircea_popescu whether you have voice or not. [13:54]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:54]
bitcoingirl does anyone have a guess on what drove the price up 10% yesterday? [13:54]
BingoBoingo http://gizmodo.com/a-guillotine-on-a-stick-that-lets-you-play-caesar-with-1579134087 [13:54]
assbot A Guillotine On a Stick That Lets You Play Caesar With Slugs [13:54]
BingoBoingo bitcoingirl: It was probably people on twitter telling Gavin to shut up that did it. [13:55]
bitcoingirl you sure it wasn't the Fox Business interview? [13:56]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: it was rallymoad [13:56]
fluffypony the reality is that the market is poised for movement [13:56]
fluffypony and then someone tried to start a rally, wasn't massively successful, but it picked up a bit of steam [13:57]
fluffypony broke through the wall at 475, and stopped short of breaking through 500 [13:57]
bitcoingirl how does someone try to start a rally? what did they do exactly to move the market? [13:57]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: buy a significant quantity of Bitcoins, setup structured buy walls below market value to create the illusion of demand, all sorts of things can be done to try get it going [13:58]
fluffypony the market either reacts or it doesn't [13:58]
fluffypony and it can turn on them just as quickly as succeed [13:58]
bitcoingirl what are buy walls? [13:59]
fluffypony still, at 3 day scale the MACD looks promising [13:59]
chetty http://blogs.marketwatch.com/capitolreport/2014/05/20/charles-plosser-thinks-theres-a-ticking-time-bomb-at-the-fed/ [13:59]
assbot Charles Plosser thinks there’s a ticking time bomb at the Fed - Capitol Report - MarketWatch [13:59]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: like if someone puts up a bunch of offers to buy Bitcoin at $450 each totalling $200k, when the market is at $460, that's a buy wall [14:00]
fluffypony it can make sellers move their offers up higher because they think it's an indicator of demand [14:00]
fluffypony but it can also backfire and people can sell into the buy wall faster than the trader can pull it [14:00]
BingoBoingo Trying to shape supply and demand can be a way to lose a lot of money quickly though. [14:01]
fluffypony ^^ [14:01]
bitcoingirl and where was this happening yesterday? [14:01]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: the movement started on Bitstamp [14:01]
bitcoingirl and where was this happening yesterday?? [14:02]
fluffypony wait, didn't I just answer that? [14:02]
bitcoingirl yes sorry [14:03]
bitcoingirl where would you monitor the price if your trading on bitstamp [14:03]
fluffypony lots of traders have tools they've bought / built / whatever [14:03]
fluffypony for the casual observer such as myself [14:03]
fluffypony https://bitcoinwisdom.com [14:03]
assbot BitcoinWisdom - Live Bitcoin/Litecoin charts [14:03]
fluffypony use a 3d or 1d (3 day / 1 day) scale to get a more macrocosmic view [14:04]
fluffypony and in Settings turn the MACD indicator on [14:04]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [14:04]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 497.0, vol: 23912.05813220 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 486.66, vol: 13113.52364 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 495.4, vol: 18927.31535076 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 500.38, vol: 116.33922507 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 492.354216, vol: 5361.20070000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 490.84583, vol: 24.23311087 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 495.9725, vol: 200.09617222 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [14:04]
BingoBoingo ;;more [14:04]
gribble 493.906224162 [14:04]
bitcoingirl what is this gribble that keeps coming up? [14:05]
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fluffypony especially at a 3 day scale the MACD seems to indicate that some upward movement is due...or it'll just settle back down [14:05]
fluffypony the market is a fickle beast [14:05]
BingoBoingo bitcoingirl: It's a bot that reports information. [14:05]
BingoBoingo It also manages the Web of Trust [14:05]
bitcoingirl and how is it useful? [14:06]
moiety saves you roaming around, you can do a lot in-channel [14:06]
bitcoingirl sorry if these seem like dumb questions - I'm just jumping in WOT [14:06]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot moiety [14:06]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user moiety: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=moiety | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moiety | Rated since: Tue Feb 25 20:04:56 2014 [14:06]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: which part, the market info from gribble? [14:06]
moiety how? [14:06]
moiety urgh [14:06]
bitcoingirl right all these prices and volumes [14:07]
BingoBoingo assbot is the other useful bot [14:07]
BingoBoingo !t glbse nyan [14:07]
assbot The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. [14:07]
BingoBoingo !t m s.nsa [14:07]
assbot [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00013 / 0.00013 / 0.00013 (3150 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00013 / 0.00014409 / 0.00015 (11359 shares, 1.64 BTC) [14:07]
bitcoingirl what does that mean ^^ [14:07]
moiety ;;ident [14:08]
gribble Nick 'moiety', with hostmask 'moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety', is identified as user 'moiety', with GPG key id 6DF881D6696B6111, key fingerprint E64F1CD74C9F7F955A892A646DF881D6696B6111, and bitcoin address None [14:08]
moiety gribble must have had a huff while i was asleep? [14:08]
BingoBoingo assbot pulls up tickers for various bitcoin related assets [14:08]
fluffypony moiety: probably [14:08]
BingoBoingo It also manages voice in channel [14:08]
BingoBoingo !up Periscope [14:09]
bitcoingirl got it. [14:09]
moiety i usually check ident when i wake up too, and this morning i just thought, nah it'll be fine lol [14:09]
bitcoingirl if i want to short BTC, what would be a good strategy? [14:09]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: every time I've tried doing any sort of short-term trading I've lost money...I'd avoid that space unless you have tons of experience [14:10]
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bitcoingirl +fluffypony: so how are you making money? [14:11]
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fluffypony !up bitcoingirl [14:11]
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bitcoingirl where is the assbot? how does it work [14:12]
fluffypony bitcoingirl: I'm a major shareholder in a group of companies [14:12]
fluffypony from before Bitcoin existed :) [14:12]
bitcoingirl what? how does that work? [14:12]
bitcoingirl in bitcoin companies? [14:12]
fluffypony nope [14:12]
bitcoingirl oh [14:12]
bitcoingirl how do you make money trading bitcoin? [14:12]
fluffypony I don't, I buy and hold [14:12]
bitcoingirl so you're long and bullish [14:13]
fluffypony exactly [14:13]
bitcoingirl do you ever sell? [14:13]
fluffypony sure, occasionally and for very specific reasons [14:13]
bitcoingirl like what for example? [14:13]
fluffypony but I share bitcoinpete's view [14:13]
fluffypony lemme grab that quote from him [14:14]
fluffypony here [14:15]
fluffypony http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/02/25/matters-of-bitcoin-merchant-adoption/ [14:15]
assbot On Matters of Merchant Adoption | When Bitcoin Met Pete [14:15]
fluffypony this part: "I learned it last summer when I spent 3 BTC on a $450 case of wine in Kelowna. Today, I could’ve bought that case for 0.64 BTC, and probably more like 0.1 BTC before long, then 0.001 BTC, etc." [14:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0325 = 0.1625 BTC [-] [14:17]
Apocalyptic if i want to short BTC, what would be a good strategy? // borrow them from someone [14:17]
punkman or bet here http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ [14:17]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1120.86 B (86%) on Yes, 186.18 B (14%) on No | closing in 8 months 4 weeks | weight: 80`354 (100`000 to 1) [14:18]
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Naphex /last Naphex [14:29]
Naphex eek [14:29]
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pankkake if irsii, a tip: /last -hilight -new [14:30]
pankkake hm, it's lastlog. so not irssi [14:31]
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Naphex irssi actually [14:32]
Naphex last is aliased [14:32]
Naphex :P [14:32]
Naphex Irssi 0.8.16-rc1 (20140111) - http://irssi.org/ [14:33]
assbot Irssi - The client of the future [14:33]
BingoBoingo Look at the pretense http://theamericanbitcoincompany.com/ [14:37]
fluffypony the most trusted name in Bitcoin? [14:37]
BingoBoingo First, best, only [14:39]
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fluffypony all their cards look like poor Amex knockoffs [14:42]
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BingoBoingo fluffypony: And what do the cards even do? [14:44]
fluffypony I think it's like a membership card [14:44]
BingoBoingo http://theamericanbitcoincompany.com/wallets/ [14:45]
assbot Wallet Services | American Bitcoin Inc. [14:45]
fluffypony "hey look how cool I am, member of the American Bitcoin elite, proud Foundation bronze member, free Ross Ulbricht!" [14:45]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: that paragraph breaks my brain [14:46]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Click one of their register buttons and see how they accept payment [14:46]
Apocalyptic fluffypony, funny thing it does no longer do that on me [14:46]
Apocalyptic must have seen too many of them [14:47]
fluffypony checkout with paypal...lol... [14:47]
BingoBoingo Or Coinbase! [14:49]
Naphex quick #bitcoin-assets poll: Second FIAT currency, EUR or USD?:D [14:52]
fluffypony after rubles? [14:53]
Naphex after Romanian LEU [14:53]
fluffypony EUR, imho [14:54]
BingoBoingo RMB! [14:54]
BingoBoingo China has to trade somewhere [14:54]
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dexX7 theamericanbitcoincompany.com vs "american bitcoin >community" lol [15:06]
dexX7 what's that anyway? foundation 2.0? [15:06]
chetty http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/21/us-ebay-password-idUSBREA4K0B420140521 [15:06]
assbot Ebay asks all users to change passwords| Reuters [15:06]
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BingoBoingo dexX7: Broke ass thing that aspires to be what the foundation imagines it is [15:07]
dexX7 so is it legit? [15:07]
Duffer1 sounds about as legit as the first one [15:08]
Duffer1 no i dunno, i've never heard of them until just now [15:09]
dexX7 hehe [15:09]
pankkake I tried to change my eBay password a few weeks ago. I didn't work. [15:09]
dexX7 ouch [15:10]
fluffypony I just changed mine [15:11]
thestringpuller fluffypony: you watch that video yet [15:12]
dexX7 worked for me, too [15:12]
fluffypony thestringpuller: no, it's on my list, day got away from me a little [15:15]
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moiety my internet just had a tantrum and fucked off for a minute or two [15:26]
moiety i can't remember my ebay password and I'm locked out of my google account to reset it [15:27]
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BingoBoingo Oh, the perils of relying on other people's computers for so much. [15:33]
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dub check if your password is on tpb [15:49]
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danielpbarron BingoBoingo, why shouldn't my wallet be with my full node? [15:53]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: I like the idea of separating roles. [15:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1910 @ 0.00011557 = 0.2207 BTC [+] {2} [15:55]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.00599991 = 0.42 BTC [+] {2} [15:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47949 = 0.959 BTC [+] [15:58]
danielpbarron BingoBoingo, how would I send a transaction then? [16:01]
danielpbarron does bitcoind let me create a transaction on one machine, and sign it on another/ [16:01]
BingoBoingo You pass it to the node. bitcoind could probably be abused into doing that. Armory does that well. Electrum effectively does that if you only have it connect to the node at 127.0.0.1 [16:02]
BingoBoingo Or whatever the other machine is. [16:03]
BingoBoingo I think electrum has an offline solution for transaction signing. [16:03]
danielpbarron i don't want to use electrum or armory [16:03]
danielpbarron is there any command line option? [16:04]
BingoBoingo I haven't dug into bitcoind that much. I just run it as a dumb node, making sure it plays nice with the network and then largely letting it be. [16:05]
danielpbarron it sounds like the thing I want has yet to be written [16:08]
BingoBoingo There's probably a command line option to push a raw transaction on the network in bitcoind. [16:09]
dexX7 danielpbarron: this is possible, but difficult with bitcoind because it doesn't let you sign unless you synced completely afaik [16:10]
dexX7 might be worth to check out https://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib which allows signing [16:10]
assbot petertodd/python-bitcoinlib GitHub [16:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.0224999 = 0.4275 BTC [-] [16:15]
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danielpbarron assbot is definitely not posting MPEX stuff; all I've seen for the last 24 hours is havelock trades [16:25]
BingoBoingo http://www.oreilly.com/pub/e/3059 [16:33]
assbot Webcast: Beyond Security: Getting to Know OpenBSD's Real Purpose [16:33]
artifexd moiety: My understanding is that there are two definitions of "scammer". One from the business owner's point of view (dishonesty or theft). One from the investor's point of view (failure to pay obligations). The popular view here is from the investor's point of view because it doesn't matter *why* someone didn't pay their obligations. That person should not [16:34]
artifexd be trusted with further money. [16:34]
moiety ok [16:36]
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artifexd fluffypony: I tend to share benkay's view of bitcoin. Specifically from here: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/02/09_bitcoiners-upset-at-apple-understand-neither-apples-business-model-nor-bitcoin.html [16:38]
assbot Bitcoiners Upset at Apple Understand Neither Apple's Business Model nor Bitcoin [16:38]
artifexd "Furthermore, putting bitcoins on your phone is probably the goddamn stupidest thing that I've ever heard of. Bitcoins are going to be the world's reserve currency4, and as such fated to rise to prices per coin that dwarf even the outlandish Winklevoss' most media-hungry "predictions". To leave such a precious commodity within reach of anyone with a USB [16:39]
artifexd cable5 and a gun to scare you off your phone is the height of idiocy." [16:39]
fluffypony lol [16:39]
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jurov "BREAKING: Bitcoin conference participants robbed with USB cable on gunpoint" [16:45]
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BingoBoingo Let us never forget Tortilla's conference where he lost thousands of bitcoins to a sauna [16:49]
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BingoBoingo %book [16:50]
atcbot 0k@285 63k@278 25k@277 | 33k@187 55k@156 10k@155 [16:50]
pankkake %diff [16:51]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 149204.27 in 687 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -67.23 [16:51]
jurov http://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=smart_girl.jpg hahaha [16:55]
assbot Roumenv Rouming - Zbavn a zajmav obrzky - smart girl [16:55]
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mod6 lol smh [16:57]
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chetty The Obama administration has quietly adjusted key provisions of its signature healthcare law to potentially make billions of additional taxpayer dollars available to the insurance industry if companies providing coverage through the Affordable Care Act lose money. [16:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.03896326 = 0.1169 BTC [+] {2} [16:59]
BingoBoingo https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=375643.0 [17:03]
assbot I AM HODLING | Bitcointa.lk [17:03]
mike_c asciilifeform: variant 1 - powerful machine, must sing, like 'harley davidson'; << how else do you know it's working! [17:03]
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mike_c machines gotta earn their keep [17:04]
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mike_c kakobrekla: note busted link in log because it is hyperlinking the parantheses [17:07]
mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2014#684030 [17:07]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [17:07]
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moiety ffs my net keeps going off [17:09]
artifexd mike_c: I also changed the bot to not put the links in parenthesis. Thanks for pointing that out. [17:11]
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mike_c ah [17:13]
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dexX7 danielpbarron: oh hey, correction: you actually can quite easily sign raw transactions offline with bitcoind, but you need to supply the scriptpubkey of inputs, see http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bxrEyqbt for an example [17:17]
thestringpuller punkman: hey you around? [17:19]
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punkman thestringpuller: ja [17:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.033 = 0.165 BTC [+] [17:29]
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asciilifeform http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-struggling-to-hire-hackers-who-dont-smoke-we-1579183208 [17:31]
assbot The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed [17:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+] [17:34]
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danielpbarron cool, thanks dexX7 [17:36]
chetty http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/?p=32205 [17:38]
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punkman ""I have to hire a great work force to compete with those cyber criminals, and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview,"" [17:38]
punkman lol [17:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00412962 = 0.5369 BTC [-] {6} [17:38]
mike_c is the problem that the cyber criminals have better weed? [17:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00409875 = 0.4919 BTC [-] {2} [17:39]
punkman yeah the gov-approved weed is crap [17:40]
kakobrekla ist gov approve crap ? [17:40]
kakobrekla isnt [17:40]
kakobrekla bah. [17:40]
chetty hmm doesn't gubermint approved= bad for you? [17:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1017 @ 0.00402367 = 4.0921 BTC [-] {7} [17:43]
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punkman http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/05/06/u-s-government-grow-1430-pounds-weed-dea-registered-research/11281/ [17:44]
assbot U.S. government to grow 1,430 pounds of weed for DEA-registered research [17:44]
kakobrekla ;;google 1430 pounds in kg [17:44]
gribble 2011 World's Strongest man- Squat Lift- Zydrunas Savickas - YouTube: ; Leg press - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Terrafugia Transition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [17:44]
kakobrekla ok. [17:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.03343256 = 2.3403 BTC [+] {3} [17:45]
dub ;;calc 1430*2.2 [17:45]
gribble 3146 [17:45]
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dub ;;calc 1430/2.2 [17:45]
gribble 650 [17:46]
dub even [17:46]
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dub smoked too much weed to remember weed conversion tables [17:46]
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punkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_Investigational_New_Drug_program [17:46]
assbot Compassionate Investigational New Drug program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [17:46]
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pankkake kakobrekla: GNU Units [17:47]
kakobrekla mhm [17:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.095 = 1.425 BTC [+] [17:49]
dub 9 ounces a month is some smoking [17:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.03372386 = 1.6862 BTC [+] {7} [17:52]
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BingoBoingo dub: But if it is crappy government weed... [17:52]
punkman the Mississippi guy started with mexican ditchweed [17:53]
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dub thats a joint every hour 15 hours a day [17:55]
kakobrekla dont they take it orally? [17:55]
punkman I like the can they give them: https://www.theweedblog.com/wp-content/uploads//Federal-Medical-Marijuana-Can-300x300.jpg [17:56]
dub yeah you inhale through your mouth generally [17:56]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: The government only approves suppositories [17:56]
kakobrekla lol [17:56]
dub 9oz of suppository [17:56]
punkman that's goatse territory [17:57]
kakobrekla meh prerolled shit [17:57]
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BingoBoingo !up soros [17:58]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [17:58]
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gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 491.53, Best ask: 491.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 491.8, 24 hour volume: 21195.10084630, 24 hour low: 469.64, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 486.155141349 [17:58]
kakobrekla o look its george [17:58]
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dub th ecanned joints are 0.5g so 17 joints/dey [18:00]
soros ^^ hello gents [18:00]
dub thats like dub at 18 territory [18:01]
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dub getting close at least [18:01]
BingoBoingo 17 times a day is rather often to put something up up the ass. [18:04]
kakobrekla what brings you soros ? [18:05]
pankkake well then there's a market for an automated suppository gun, in the form of a butt plug [18:06]
kakobrekla https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/ [18:07]
assbot Data Pirates of the Caribbean: The NSA Is Recording Every Cell Phone Call in the Bahamas - The Intercept [18:07]
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BingoBoingo http://www.katu.com/news/local/Womans-car-attacked-by-self-identified-high-elf-battling-evil-259598811.html [18:13]
assbot Woman's car attacked by self-identified 'high elf' battling evil | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon [18:13]
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soros kakobrekla: nothing particular, thinking of merging that foundation of mine with TBF [18:13]
kakobrekla foundwhat with what? [18:14]
BingoBoingo soros: What's your foundation? Basement, slab, pier and post? [18:14]
BingoBoingo http://www.wired.com/2014/05/snowden-cryptoparty/ [18:16]
assbot Snowden’s First Move Against the NSA Was a Party in Hawaii | Threat Level | WIRED [18:16]
rithm https://app.box.com/s/1xbjbx9qiaua7xpyh94w [18:18]
assbot Bitcoin2014_AnnualMembersMeetingTranscript.pdf - Datei ber Box freigegeben [18:18]
moiety if i have to eauth one more time today imma eat gribble [18:18]
chetty http://marketrealist.com/2014/05/george-soros-soros-fund-sells-stakes-jpmorgan-chase-citigroup/ [18:20]
assbot George Soros' fund sells its stake in JPMorgan Chase in 1Q14 » Market Realist [18:20]
thestringpuller moiety: heh, you don't have a bouncer? [18:20]
penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-difficulty-update/ [18:21]
assbot Bitcoin difficulty update [18:21]
rithm dat znc bro [18:21]
moiety i thought thats why i didn't ping time out? [18:21]
moiety i thought i did [18:21]
mike_c has anyone made money ever going short diff? unstoppable force. [18:22]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Only a few anomalous difficulty BitBets [18:22]
rithm there were a few weeks in 2011 where you could short the diff? [18:22]
rithm maybe fewer in 2012 [18:22]
soros kakobrekla: Open Society Foundation with The Bitcoin Foundation [18:24]
kakobrekla the only thing you want to do with TBF is to run, as fast and as far as you can. [18:24]
kakobrekla not run it, but away. [18:25]
rithm run far, far away [18:25]
rithm they aren't cashflow positive and they are burning through their initial endowment [18:25]
rithm that's what the report says [18:25]
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BingoBoingo ^ [18:26]
kakobrekla i was thinking of child porn really. [18:27]
soros kakobrekla: quite the contrary, TBF would be a perfect fit to join me and my buddies. in fact, they may already have joined us.. ;) [18:27]
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fluffypony except the child molesters, presumably [18:28]
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BingoBoingo !up soros [18:29]
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rithm oh yeah the brock landers child sex thing too [18:29]
kakobrekla i thought we were done wif dat. [18:29]
BingoBoingo soros: Is it the Brock Pierce sex thing, srsly [18:29]
BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/20-million-bees-swarm-delaware-highway-after-tractor-tr-1579475489 [18:32]
assbot 20 Million Bees Swarm Delaware Highway After Tractor-Trailer Crash [18:32]
kakobrekla http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/18/us-cisco-systems-nsa-idUSBREA4H0C720140518 [18:33]
assbot Cisco chief urges Obama to curb NSA surveillance activity| Reuters [18:33]
kakobrekla heh [18:33]
soros BingoBoingo: not at all, thats just some bonus, i'm more thinking about this http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/george-soros-the-united-states-must-stop-resisting-the-orderly-decline-of-the-dollar-the-coming-global-currency-and-the-new-world-order [18:33]
assbot George Soros: The United States Must Stop Resisting The Orderly Decline Of The Dollar, The Coming Global Currency And The New World Order [18:33]
BingoBoingo soros: Is this some sort of roleplaying you are trying here http://www.megalomaniac.com/~andrew/funny/bloodcyber.html [18:34]
assbot The Saga of Bloodninja [18:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46004823 BTC [-] [18:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0042499 = 0.4462 BTC [+] [18:35]
chetty oic, soros thinks btc will be the nwo currency :P [18:35]
soros chetty: not "will be".. try "is" [18:36]
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rithm duh [18:36]
BingoBoingo !down soros [18:37]
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rithm why else would i have been hoarding bitcoins for years before these retarded millionaires caught on [18:37]
chetty :D [18:38]
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pankkake !up soros [18:38]
pankkake FU assbot [18:39]
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pankkake !up soros [18:39]
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HeySteve soros, why not the basket of gold, SDRs, rubles, yuan, dollars, etc.? [18:41]
chetty ;;gettrust soros [18:43]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user chetty to user soros: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=chetty&dest=soros | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=soros | Rated since: never [18:43]
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chetty !up princessnell [18:44]
soros HeySteve: been there, done that [18:45]
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princessnell yo peeps [18:45]
thestringpuller it's the economist [18:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.03805341 = 0.9133 BTC [-] {5} [18:47]
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HeySteve k soros gl getting central banks to accept loss of control over rates and money supply [18:50]
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thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe [18:51]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0008848 / 0.00090406 / 0.00094991 (467313 shares, 422.48 BTC), 7D: 0.0008848 / 0.00095919 / 0.00100536 (4425468 shares, 4,244.88 BTC), 30D: 0.00083786 / 0.00093955 / 0.00101 (23668180 shares, 22,237.54 BTC) [18:51]
thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe [18:51]
assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00088856 BTC [-] [18:51]
benkay ;;later tell bitcoingirl oh, you're shilling for the foundation too now? http://nmllplaw.com/attorneys/marco-a-santori/ << "Bitcoin lawyer" [18:54]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:54]
assbot Marco A. Santori [18:54]
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benkay o look usg opining about cn/btc: http://origin.www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Research/USCC%20Economic%20Issue%20Brief%20-%20Bitcoin%20-%2005%2012%2014.pdf [18:55]
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HeySteve lol peter schiff has changed his tune about bitcoin [18:56]
benkay http://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/boc-review-spring14-fung.pdf << apparently the thief David Joseph has yet to make good on being the Canadian government's go-to dood for btc things. [18:56]
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cgcardona good morning everyone o/ [18:57]
benkay ;;later tell bitcoingirl a pox on your uncritical republication of fundation noise [18:57]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:57]
cgcardona HeySteve: url? [18:57]
cgcardona ;;ticker [18:57]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 492.57, Best ask: 493.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 493.32, 24 hour volume: 18368.13937592, 24 hour low: 478.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 486.155141349 [18:57]
benkay A POX. [18:58]
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HeySteve I just got a press release, cgcardona, no link as yet [18:58]
cgcardona what's he have to say? How did he change his tune? [18:58]
HeySteve oh wait check out his site: http://www.europacmetals.com/ [18:59]
cgcardona "Well ok there is intrinsic value :p" [18:59]
assbot Peter Schiffs Gold Company | Euro Pacific Precious Metals [18:59]
HeySteve http://blog.europacmetals.com/2014/05/euro-pacific-precious-metals-now-accepts-bitcoin/ specifically [18:59]
assbot Euro Pacific Precious Metals Now Accepts Bitcoin | Peter Schiffs Official Gold Blog [18:59]
cgcardona oh shit [18:59]
mjr_ lol [18:59]
mjr_ we were just talking about that [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42771748 BTC to 8`548 shares, 28401 satoshi per share [19:00]
HeySteve heh well better late than never for Peter Schiff I guess. he's one of the saner "talking heads" out there [19:00]
cgcardona "PETER SCHIFF—TAKE MY BITCOIN!1!!1" -noone ever [19:00]
mjr_ hahaha [19:00]
mjr_ yeah [19:00]
mjr_ and...i guess if we had to stop and say i told you so to everyone who got bitcoin wrong... [19:00]
princessnell heysteve that's not saying much... [19:00]
BingoBoingo benkay: Which one was she again? [19:01]
princessnell benkay boring perianne is still learning [19:02]
cgcardona the valcambi bars are a goldbugs wet dream http://www.europacmetals.com/our-products.aspx [19:02]
assbot Our Products [19:02]
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cgcardona though entirely not practical [19:02]
HeySteve true princessnell. still waiting for paul krugman to come around :P [19:03]
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princessnell heysteve they will be first in line for redemption after the rev [19:03]
fluffypony http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27503290 [19:05]
assbot BBC News - eBay makes users change their passwords after hack [19:05]
cgcardona yea minimum order of $5000. Where can I buy smaller quanitites of precious metals w/ btc? [19:05]
cgcardona i'd love to pick up just a few coins but don't really want to drop $5000 [19:05]
HeySteve cgcardona, there's amagi metals, coinabul and a few others [19:06]
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BingoBoingo Coinabul's a scam [19:06]
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cgcardona i thought I had checked out amagi and they also required a min of 200oz of silver. checking now again.... [19:07]
HeySteve !up coingenuity [19:08]
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rithm buying metal with cyprtocurrency is a terrible idea that usually has worked in someone else's favor [19:09]
rithm historically that's my perspective [19:09]
HeySteve fluffypony, so ebay was hacked Feb - Mar and only found about it now? [19:09]
fluffypony ja seems that way [19:10]
cgcardona rithm: care to explain? [19:10]
fluffypony we all changed our passwords earlier, someone posted a link about an eBay notice going out [19:10]
fluffypony didn't know why tho [19:10]
rithm the metal loses value as a function of time and the bitcoin does not? [19:10]
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rithm historically speaking, since both have only existed for x [19:10]
rithm gold might be an anomoly but not by much [19:11]
cgcardona yea I'm not thinking of moving from btc to gold as an investment. the bulk of my assets are in btc and will remain there. i was more thinking getting some precious metals just as collectors items. [19:11]
cgcardona that's why i only wanna order a couple [19:11]
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rithm amagi shipped 10 ounces of gold in 6 days [19:12]
rithm that's my only experience [19:12]
cgcardona oh ok cool. so they will ship less than 200 oz. great to know. thanks rithm [19:12]
rithm silver is worthless [19:12]
HeySteve no way, rithm. kills werewolves [19:13]
cgcardona haha [19:14]
rithm it killed 'em for 35$ and now it kills them at $19 [19:14]
thestringpuller benkay disco killed the radio [19:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03307369 = 0.9922 BTC [-] {5} [19:14]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:18]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.02, Best ask: 494.22, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 494.02, 24 hour volume: 18063.26901568, 24 hour low: 478.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 491.460861006 [19:18]
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BingoBoingo !up moiety [19:20]
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moiety ty [19:20]
BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/sailor-convicted-of-hacking-websites-from-aboard-aircraft-carrier/ [19:21]
assbot Sailor convicted of hacking websites from aboard aircraft carrier | Ars Technica [19:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 21 @ 0.038 = 0.798 BTC [-] [19:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0042 = 0.1764 BTC [+] {2} [19:22]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/469151314300399617 [19:22]
assbot 74% of Wall Street believes /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash will become an alternative currency, according to Bitcoin Trust survey: http://t.co/ODjtwSV7an [19:22]
moiety i think my router had a heart attack today? seems ok now [19:23]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoKt_SOIEAAqXCu.jpg << this is pretty lulzy [19:23]
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kakobrekla mike_c : patched [19:25]
mike_c link test (http://bitbet.us/bet/796/) commenced [19:28]
kakobrekla lol [19:29]
mike_c cool, thanks [19:29]
kakobrekla yw [19:29]
mircea_popescu check out lawski guy : http://t.co/LlZyGiji47 [19:29]
assbot BNP Paribas Risks Client Flight as Ban on Transfers Looms - Businessweek [19:29]
mircea_popescu basically the us is turning into venezuela on the rather transparent and quite flimsy pretext of... [19:30]
mircea_popescu im not sure even what exactly, was it "money laundering" ? [19:30]
BingoBoingo Turrorism [19:33]
BingoBoingo Or maybe Turderism [19:33]
mircea_popescu bitcoingirl: what is this gribble that keeps coming up? << she's adowable isn't she. [19:33]
danielpbarron <+BingoBoingo> Coinabul's a scam << someone i deal with is currently waiting for them to ship and it's been weeks or months at this point [19:36]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin? << well, anyone can claim anything right ? [19:37]
mircea_popescu and the consumer is gonna learn that claiming is not worth much [19:37]
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mircea_popescu exactly like the claims of jurisdiction his government keeps making aren't worth much. [19:37]
kakobrekla fluffypony: the most trusted name in Bitcoin? < ognasty obv. [19:37]
BingoBoingo http://valleywag.gawker.com/airbnb-loves-sharing-so-much-it-agreed-to-subpoena-on-1579561833/+sarah-hedgecock [19:37]
assbot Airbnb Loves Sharing So Much, It Agreed to Subpoena On Illegal Hosts [19:37]
mircea_popescu chetty: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/21/us-ebay-password-idUSBREA4K0B420140521 <<< ahahaha. [19:38]
assbot EBay says client information stolen in hacking attack| Reuters [19:38]
mircea_popescu SeCuReTee-Hee [19:38]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla he meant some "american bitcoin corp" website some kid put up last week [19:38]
kakobrekla a dunno [19:38]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo they had no option, really. theyt're a bunch of party clowns (literally) out to make money. [19:39]
mircea_popescu the alternative was grand jury indictments. [19:39]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Of course, but it's funny to see that the clowns realized holding out for a grand jury would fall even flatter on their audience [19:40]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron: assbot is definitely not posting MPEX stuff; all I've seen for the last 24 hours is havelock trades << looking into it [19:41]
mike_c fwiw, kako's feed hasn't reported any trades for 27 hours [19:42]
mircea_popescu it's... fixed. [19:44]
mjr_ good morning [19:44]
danielpbarron cool, thanks :) [19:45]
BingoBoingo !t m s.bbet [19:45]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00047 / 0.00049937 / 0.00051499 (48838 shares, 24.39 BTC), 30D: 0.00047 / 0.00050069 / 0.00054 (51695 shares, 25.88 BTC) [19:45]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Let us never forget Tortilla's conference where he lost thousands of bitcoins to a sauna << ahjahaha. [19:45]
mircea_popescu but he didn't lose anything, he just created drama [19:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4789999 BTC [+] [19:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.47952666 = 1.4386 BTC [+] {3} [19:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 400 @ 0.00047 = 0.188 BTC [-] [19:48]
mircea_popescu mike_c: has anyone made money ever going short diff? unstoppable force. << i think a few bets wonthat way, but still. drop in bucket. [19:51]
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mircea_popescu so did y'all teach perianne how to make moneyz shorting bitcoin or what. [19:51]
mircea_popescu !up moiety [19:51]
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mircea_popescu rithm: they aren't cashflow positive and they are burning through their initial endowment << exactly. [19:52]
mircea_popescu and they're being crunched on the pr side. [19:52]
mircea_popescu people familiar with the taking down of gox will perhaps recognise the pattern. [19:52]
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rithm sounds unviable to me [19:52]
mircea_popescu that'd be because it's not viable. [19:52]
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mircea_popescu princessnell how goes. [19:53]
mircea_popescu HeySteve: lol peter schiff has changed his tune about bitcoin << but obviously no apology. [19:54]
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princessnell mircea_popescu well enough. assigned to project about how bitcoin will help the poors. [19:55]
mircea_popescu princessnell: heysteve they will be first in line for redemption after the rev << i was going to say something like that. [19:55]
mircea_popescu princessnell that is pretty fucktarded. why are you wasting your time ? [19:56]
mircea_popescu do something useful. [19:56]
BingoBoingo princessnell: It will help them by providing better masters. [19:56]
princessnell i know i know [19:56]
mircea_popescu enough said then. [19:56]
princessnell well, i'm also lurking here so it's not a total waste rite rite [19:56]
BingoBoingo Also by boosting the sales of sharpie markers [19:56]
mircea_popescu cgcardona there's no way you can't buy gold directly from miners in australia [19:57]
mircea_popescu i refuse to believe [19:57]
cgcardona w/ bitcoin. not w/ a service i'm aware of. but sure potentially [19:57]
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cgcardona plus I'm only looking for some small collectibles. nothing at scale. [19:58]
cgcardona *collectables [19:58]
mircea_popescu rithm: it killed 'em for 35$ and now it kills them at $19 << epic lmao. [19:59]
mircea_popescu cgcardona ah i c. [19:59]
mircea_popescu get fluffypony to ship you some krugerrands [19:59]
fluffypony or buy some physical dogecoins [19:59]
fluffypony they'll be a collectors item in 3 years [19:59]
mircea_popescu or buy the people holding doge coins. [20:00]
kakobrekla they have those now? [20:00]
pankkake physical dogecoins, a real shibe with a private key tatooed in the ear? [20:00]
mircea_popescu they'll be worthless in 3 years, but they can suck you off in the meanwhile. [20:00]
fluffypony https://shibemint.com [20:00]
assbot Shibe Mint [20:00]
cgcardona I can send back some kahealani niihau ;-] [20:00]
fluffypony just minted coins, not actual Dogecoins [20:00]
HeySteve I looked at shipping krugerrands but there's a low allowance on what one can send annually [20:00]
cgcardona shibe mint -epic fluffypony [20:00]
pankkake fluffypony: meh. [20:00]
HeySteve I believe any number of gold rounds can be sent, but insurance and shipping charges will be steep [20:01]
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mircea_popescu HeySteve i imagine the amagi / coinabul / whoever else pays the same exact fees [20:01]
cgcardona i'm positive that whichever one was recently on Reddit/bitcoin (i think amagi) requires min of 200oz of silver cause I checked that day. [20:01]
HeySteve hmm, that's true. I've been meaning to follow up on gold for bitcoin, we don't mine silver here though [20:01]
kakobrekla 10 bux for 1 doge [20:01]
kakobrekla not a scam as such. [20:02]
cgcardona ha [20:02]
mircea_popescu pretty ugly fucking things [20:03]
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mircea_popescu thye look like they were designed by a 15yo with a pirated illustrator. [20:03]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: sounds about right [20:03]
mircea_popescu fluffypony so the anarkitty character never said a word huh. [20:03]
fluffypony nope [20:03]
mircea_popescu weird. [20:03]
HeySteve lol @ physical dogecoins. so bad it's good, I want one [20:04]
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ThickAsThieves Sup [20:05]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: How was Amsterdam [20:06]
ThickAsThieves pretty cool [20:06]
cgcardona more like amsterDAMN [20:06]
ThickAsThieves got a cold though [20:06]
ThickAsThieves almost over it [20:06]
ThickAsThieves all that inhaling i guess [20:06]
cgcardona :) [20:07]
cgcardona i was there in 2005 for the high times cannabis cup. i'd like to go back when it's warmer [20:07]
cgcardona and not with high times. [20:07]
ThickAsThieves had to turn down a few government jobs since my visit ;) [20:08]
cgcardona heh [20:08]
ThickAsThieves the weather was great [20:08]
cgcardona not the fbi anymore ! http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-struggling-to-hire-hackers-who-dont-smoke-we-1579183208 [20:08]
ThickAsThieves it didnt get very cold at night so everyone was out all night [20:08]
assbot The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed [20:08]
ThickAsThieves many lights shining on the canals [20:08]
ThickAsThieves etc [20:08]
cgcardona damn I'm jealous. sounds great [20:08]
moiety i hope you took pictures ThickAsThieves [20:09]
ThickAsThieves not really [20:09]
ThickAsThieves just some lame conference ones [20:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00093352 = 15.1697 BTC [+] {4} [20:09]
moiety :[ but but lights [20:09]
ThickAsThieves i'm not one for scenery pictures [20:09]
ThickAsThieves enough people out there documenting everything now [20:09]
ThickAsThieves dont need my pictures of pretty lights [20:10]
cgcardona God the Pretty Lights show I say in Dec in SF was off the freaking hook [20:10]
cgcardona he was touring w/ a full band. Very insane. [20:10]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: wb [20:11]
ThickAsThieves i started writing an elaborate theory about systems and economies and bitcoin and reputation [20:11]
ThickAsThieves need to go back and see if it was high genius or just highness [20:12]
BingoBoingo http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/05/26/140526fa_fact_labi [20:12]
assbot Nadya Labi: How a Militia Grew on a Military Base : The New Yorker [20:12]
chetty eBay today revealed that attackers "compromised a database containing encrypted passwords and other non-financial data" between late February and early March. The database included names, e-mail addresses, home addresses, phone numbers, and dates of birth. [20:13]
benkay no more passwords [20:16]
benkay pubkeys only [20:16]
benkay everyone must gee pee gee [20:16]
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benkay "everybody must get hashed" [20:17]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#623021 [20:17]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [20:17]
benkay (dylan) [20:17]
chetty Woman Refused Medicine Because ObamaCare System Says She Is a Man [20:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The good old days [20:17]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: notice that every single time they try a 'wrecker,' he's dumb as a brick. [20:18]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course. They tend to be more open to suggestion. [20:18]
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BingoBoingo http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/05/21/1226241/step-toward-liberating-electronic-devices-from-their-power-cords [20:23]
assbot Step Toward Liberating Electronic Devices From Their Power Cords - Slashdot [20:23]
BingoBoingo Laser Pistol fire in the streets inches closer. [20:23]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#621910 [20:25]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [20:25]
BingoBoingo According to one soldier interviewed by the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command, “The entire S-2 section”—the intelligence group in Aguigui’s squadron—“had knowledge of Aguigui’s plans and many were willing to be a part of it.” [20:31]
mircea_popescu ahh, minty lemonade made out of your own mint from your own garden. [20:32]
mircea_popescu by your own womenz from your own basement [20:32]
mircea_popescu lief. [20:32]
ThickAsThieves so ya'll are leaving Ro huh [20:32]
mircea_popescu aye [20:33]
Duffer1 new zealand sounds nice [20:33]
ThickAsThieves do you know where to yet? [20:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00093283 = 3.4515 BTC [-] [20:33]
mircea_popescu course i know where to [20:35]
penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/21/why-garden-so-you-can-write-cheques-to-strippers/ [20:35]
assbot Why Garden? So You Can Write Cheques To Strippers. | When Bitcoin Met Pete [20:35]
pankkake extradited to the USA? [20:35]
fluffypony hah hah [20:35]
mircea_popescu lol [20:35]
fluffypony someone should spread the rumour [20:35]
mircea_popescu extradepred [20:35]
fluffypony Jimmothy is going to eat it up [20:36]
ThickAsThieves leak it to Coindesk [20:36]
mircea_popescu well honestly... if i get a bitcoin a day, like weev... [20:36]
mircea_popescu why the hell not. [20:36]
Duffer1 MP is satoshi and is being extradited to US! [20:36]
Duffer1 i knew it all along [20:36]
mircea_popescu i could use some peace and quiet to write. [20:36]
ThickAsThieves bitcoin/hr [20:36]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves a yes my bad. [20:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.479795 = 1.9192 BTC [+] {2} [20:36]
fluffypony Satoshi Nakamoto = SN = NS backwards = N->M and S->P [20:37]
fluffypony also, Half Life 3 confirmed [20:37]
Duffer1 ha [20:37]
mircea_popescu sit in the shade 3-4 years, write a coupla books and another 10k trilema posts, come out with moar bitcoins than well... hm. [20:37]
mircea_popescu i guess im not the right guy for this deal. [20:38]
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BingoBoingo All of the sad girls waiting in your basement... [20:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00093544 = 8.6996 BTC [+] {2} [20:39]
mircea_popescu they're coming with, what. [20:41]
pankkake on the subject of "where to", blog of a friend: http://countryshopping.blogspot.com/ [20:41]
assbot Country shopping [20:41]
mircea_popescu airplane has a cargo hold for a reason. [20:41]
mircea_popescu lol turdsicle [20:41]
punkman moving the harem can't be easy [20:41]
mircea_popescu why ? they keep in shape, lithe gals. [20:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+] [20:49]
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kakobrekla http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/2014/05/21/belgium-bans-bitcoin-financial-products-in-bitcoin-prohibted-deadline-july1st/ [20:52]
assbot Belgium bans Bitcoin Financial products in Bitcoin prohibted – deadline July1st | The Bitcoin News - Decentralised Bitcoin and Crypto News [20:52]
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fluffypony this is good news! [20:52]
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pankkake "Goofy drama aside - wish him all the best. Even if controversial, would donate to a legal fund aimed at preventing extradition and assume a good few others would, too." [21:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.10838749 = 0.4335 BTC [-] {3} [21:08]
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BingoBoingo pankkake: Link? [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 530 @ 0.00425481 = 2.255 BTC [+] {8} [21:10]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553092.msg6858224#msg6858224 [21:11]
assbot MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges [21:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00093566 = 5.0993 BTC [+] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.00570066 = 0.8551 BTC [+] {3} [21:11]
BingoBoingo lol [21:12]
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asciilifeform pankkake: that forum still exists? and, what does one have to smoke, to make sense of it ? [21:18]
pankkake should be subtitled "for entertainment only" [21:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00093283 = 7.2761 BTC [-] [21:20]
Duffer1 Transistor is my new favorite thing, this game is amazin [21:24]
Duffer1 g [21:24]
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pankkake someone sent me 0.001 BTC to an address I only used to widthdraw from Cryptsy [21:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2505 @ 0.00093283 = 2.3367 BTC [-] [21:30]
mike_c that's expensive tracer dust [21:31]
mircea_popescu pankkake apparently kluge reads the logs. who knewe. [21:33]
mircea_popescu in other news, https://twitter.com/skgreen/status/469179655954915328 [21:35]
assbot "You are more likely to die in a plane crash than click on a banner ad." /msweezey at /hashtag/wistiafest?src=hash [21:35]
princessnell ;;later tell bitcoinpete hayek and #b-a is a killer combo [21:35]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:35]
pankkake mike_c: yeah, and it doesn't trace anything now. paid for more than the tx fee to move it [21:36]
mircea_popescu i don't grasp the concept of "tracer dust" anyway. [21:37]
mike_c heh :) [21:37]
mircea_popescu what's it supposed to do again ? [21:37]
mike_c mingle with your funds? see where they go? [21:37]
mircea_popescu oh in the sense it's going to end up in a composite tx ? [21:37]
mike_c but why couldn't they just do that with the funds already there. [21:37]
mircea_popescu exactly. [21:37]
pankkake that would only make sense if the address was empty, but used before, I guess [21:38]
pankkake but in that case, it wasn't [21:38]
mircea_popescu i suppose you can inadvertently show two addresses as being in the same wallet, this way. except a) why would you not keep multiple wallets if you want this and b) why wouldn't you fake it just to mess with the tracer [21:38]
mircea_popescu not like either is hard to od [21:38]
pankkake https://twitter.com/skgreen/status/469179655954915328 that's the one [21:39]
assbot "You are more likely to die in a plane crash than click on a banner ad." /msweezey at /hashtag/wistiafest?src=hash [21:39]
pankkake uh, wrong copypaste [21:39]
pankkake https://blockchain.info/tx/771a80f9c62f971a8dd02fa342f5c1856c8b39a7d5d7feb527489984f651670a [21:39]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction 771a80f9c62f971a8dd02fa342f5c1856c8b39a7d5d7feb527489984f651670a [21:39]
mike_c some kind of dividend payment? [21:40]
pankkake but doesn't explain why I got it [21:42]
fluffypony did you buy shares in their mining thing? [21:46]
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thestringpuller I'm going to go to build a bear and build a fluffypony [21:51]
fluffypony SWEET [21:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 37 @ 0.12856755 = 4.757 BTC [+] {5} [22:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00443 = 0.1418 BTC [+] [22:08]
asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/05/wang-indictment.pdf [22:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.000932 = 6.99 BTC [+] [22:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 200 @ 0.03942322 = 7.8846 BTC [+] {6} [22:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2890 @ 0.00011599 = 0.3352 BTC [+] [22:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2026 @ 0.00093079 = 1.8858 BTC [-] {2} [22:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.000932 = 5.592 BTC [+] [22:31]
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chetty http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/05/21/barron-boston-court-appeals-vote-column/9376913/ [22:44]
assbot Drone memo author doesn't understand justice : Column [22:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 237 @ 0.095 = 22.515 BTC [+] [22:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.095 = 9.5 BTC [+] {2} [22:49]
mircea_popescu !up stompysteve [22:53]
-assbot- You voiced stompysteve for 30 minutes. [22:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 58 @ 0.095 = 5.51 BTC [+] [22:57]
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stompysteve did i get a voice because you like my name :) lol [23:02]
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HeySteve forward, steve army [23:06]
mike_c i count 4 mikes in channel. bring it steve army. [23:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00093072 = 2.9783 BTC [-] [23:08]
stompysteve ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ [23:08]
HeySteve steve army may be outnumbered but never outwitted! [23:08]
stompysteve plus steve is a better name [23:09]
mike_c ;;bc,stats [23:10]
gribble Current Blocks: 301960 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 439 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10489485769.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.47953 [23:10]
HeySteve later gotta get some exercise [23:11]
thestringpuller My name is Stevie irl [23:11]
thestringpuller lol [23:11]
thestringpuller LONG LIVE THE STEVE ARMY! [23:11]
mike_c isn't stevie a girl's name? [23:11]
pankkake there's a fair amount of davids too [23:11]
pankkake at least you're not steevy http://cdn2-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/look/beaute-coaching/coiffure-de-star-les-pires-coupes-des-mecs-branches-!-28295/coiffure-de-star-les-cheveux-blond-decolore-de-steevy-boulay-28317/237701-1-fre-FR/Coiffure-de-star-les-cheveux-blond-decolore-de-Steevy-Boulay_portrait_w674.jpg [23:12]
thestringpuller mike_c: I thought that would be Stephanie [23:13]
thestringpuller and what about Stevie Wonder and Stevie Ray Vaughn? [23:13]
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mike_c ;;google stevie nicks [23:13]
gribble The Nicks Fix - The Official Stevie Nicks Website: ; Stevie Nicks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Stevie Nicks Biography - Facts, Birthday, Life Story - Biography.com: [23:13]
mike_c stevie wonder's real name is stevland [23:14]
thestringpuller Yea so the name is androgynous no? [23:14]
thestringpuller my real name is Steven [23:14]
stompysteve its me steveieeee, stevie janowski [23:14]
thestringpuller lolol [23:14]
stompysteve i havnt open bitcoinqt in like 5 months it doesnt show how far i am in verifying blocks any idea how long it will take [23:15]
stompysteve i thought it showed you a lil loading bar with how far back you were [23:15]
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stompysteve nvm it just opened [23:16]
stompysteve 33 weeks [23:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+] [23:17]
moiety http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27512421 derp [23:19]
assbot BBC News - French rail network admits train blunder [23:19]
TomServo sh log [23:21]
TomServo hah, oops! [23:21]
pankkake SNCF Fret, the business transport of SNCF, also often manages to *lose* cars [23:21]
pankkake SNCF Fret is an endless… trainwreck [23:22]
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moiety lose cars? [23:26]
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princessnell ;;later tell bitcoinpete on second thought wade has way bigger balls than i gave him credit for http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/primate-diaries/2014/05/21/on-the-origin-of-white-power/ & http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-notes-80/ [23:38]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:38]
assbot On the Origin of White Power | The Primate Diaries, Scientific American Blog Network [23:38]
assbot Outside in - Involvements with reality » Blog Archive » Quote notes (#80) [23:38]
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mircea_popescu you're steeped in stevie [23:39]
asciilifeform can't resist asking, mircea_popescu's ship has net access ? [23:39]
mircea_popescu stompysteve Current Blocks: 301960 [23:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform dun dun dun [23:40]
mircea_popescu this is just scheduled ircing. my ai power is so great, i have prepared responses in advance to anything you might inquire [23:40]
* assbot gives voice to jborkl_ [23:43]
jborkl_ so the Bitcoin foundatation spends $150k a month [23:43]
mod6 ikr! [23:43]
rithm /s/spends/blows [23:44]
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jborkl_ so in 18 months they will be broke, sounds exactly correct as far as vc logic goes [23:44]
rithm lighting cigars with fresh hundreds can get expensive though amirite [23:44]
mike_c mp's irc ai: why did bitcoin go up? [23:44]
jborkl_ well, the foundation will be broke, heh [23:44]
fluffypony I guess they're counting on a meteoric rise in BTC value [23:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.095 = 1.33 BTC [+] [23:45]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Spencish/Lets%20Play/LetsPlay_06032010_171815.jpg [23:45]
mircea_popescu mike_c because perianne wanted to short it. [23:45]
jborkl_ has the foundation even been around a year? [23:45]
rithm yes [23:45]
mircea_popescu jborkl_ bout a year and a half [23:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform is that an old indy from like the 386 era ? [23:46]
jborkl_ and how many people have they been trhough/resigned already? heh [23:46]
rithm they duped me out a few btc for their initial endowment [23:46]
rithm like the report says [23:46]
mircea_popescu the ark one ? where you can use the whip on the annoying chick in the original university setting ? [23:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aye. 'atlantis.' http://www.talking-time.net/showthread.php?t=9407&page=3 [23:46]
assbot Selling More Fine Leather Jackets! Lets Play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis! - Page 3 - The Return of Talking Time [23:46]
mircea_popescu aye [23:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that very same. [23:46]
mircea_popescu orichalcum fucking beads [23:47]
rithm hey bitcointalk.org forums have a large operating tho iirc [23:47]
rithm thermos gonna regulate [23:47]
rithm budget/donations [23:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4798 BTC [+] [23:48]
mircea_popescu princessnell he gets blown out of the water pretty thoroughly in that sciam piece. [23:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.479999 = 2.4 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+] [23:49]
princessnell mircea_popescu i mean its a masterful smear if that's what yr getting at [23:49]
* asciilifeform opens window, smells felinine. wonders how one street can support 200 housecats. [23:51]
mircea_popescu i've never read his book. but! the notions that a) there's three races ; b) that "whites" are in any sense "English" or c) that somehow passivity and civilisation correlate... [23:51]
mircea_popescu these are all massive lols to me [23:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lotta 30something women with reddit accounts on your street. [23:51]
asciilifeform lol! [23:51]
princessnell donny, yr out of yr element [23:52]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/ [23:52]
assbot You are the community. You have all the power of the internet to mold it. [23:52]
princessnell the review straight up lies [23:52]
mircea_popescu princessnell but pls to inform us. where ? [23:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wtf [23:52]
asciilifeform how you even found this. [23:53]
princessnell mircea_popescu are you asking for a competent review? [23:53]
mircea_popescu princessnell sure. alternatively, for backing of the "straight lies" theory [23:53]
asciilifeform #23: 'I've got fungi everywhere and I cannot take it anymore (ranting)' [23:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform women. everything i find, women. [23:54]
princessnell mircea_popescu ok, second one is easier. [23:54]
princessnell '"Wade does not say Caucasians are better per se, merely better adapted (because of their genes) to the modern economic institutions that Western society has created, and which now dominate the world’s economy and culture." < lie [23:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your pet creatures read this heathen pit ? [23:55]
mircea_popescu princessnell you will notice that this wasn't on my list of three things. i discarded it as stupid anyway [23:55]
mircea_popescu i got enough of a filter for that. [23:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why shouldn't they ? [23:55]
princessnell got it [23:55]
princessnell ok: yr three things [23:55]
princessnell a) race is a degree of genetic relatedness. as such there is no limit to the number of categories you can create (alternatively no maximum that bounds it). wade painstakingly explains his use of "three races" heuristic and provides ample genetic evidence to support. [23:56]
asciilifeform #100 - 'In 2014, The Classical World Still Can't Stop Fat-Shaming Women' [23:56]
princessnell b) i have no idea where you got that from [23:57]
asciilifeform a full minute and still couldn't crack the enigma, where the classical world is hiding in 2014 [23:57]
asciilifeform had to click [23:57]
mircea_popescu princessnell i got b from the slide. "He then explains why white people are better because of their genes. " mutates into "The second problem with Wade’s argument about the gentility of the English". this to me indicated the original fails to distinguish. [23:58]
asciilifeform http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/261u88/i_miss_being_an_escort_just_need_to_vent/ [23:59]
assbot I miss being an escort. Just need to vent. : TwoXChromosomes [23:59]
mircea_popescu but for the record : english *speakers*, in which category *both* uk and us citizenry are minorities, is in its turn a minority in european affairs. [23:59]
mircea_popescu which are a majority but not a supermajority of whiteness [23:59]
princessnell mircea_popescu a farewell to alms was strengthened by the son also rises [23:59]
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