Forum logs for 21 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
ThickAsThieves is darkcoin his thing? [00:00]
ThickAsThieves i know he's darkmarket [00:00]
ThickAsThieves which i think they changed to Open Bazaar [00:00]
* mircea_popescu now has to check digests [00:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.maxkeiser.com/2014/05/anarchistic-anonymous-dark-coin-creator-amir-taaki/ [00:01]
assbot Anarchistic Anonymous Dark Wallet Creator: Amir Taaki | Max Keiser [00:01]
mircea_popescu haha whart a bullseye [00:02]
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ThickAsThieves ok so taaki makes darkwallet [00:02]
ThickAsThieves not darkcoin [00:02]
ThickAsThieves The brainchild behind Darkcoin, Evan Duffield, explained his motivation for creating this privacy-oriented crypto-currency: [00:03]
ThickAsThieves “I believe the central problem with Bitcoin is that the public ledger, although a remarkable accomplishment, also allows a gross invasion of personal privacy by permanently listing all transactions the users have ever done publicly.” [00:03]
mircea_popescu "dark-coin-creator" [00:03]
mircea_popescu am i misreading ? [00:03]
ThickAsThieves no, they are mis-writing [00:03]
mircea_popescu he's definitely misreading what bitcoin does, for that matter. [00:03]
ThickAsThieves Evan Duffield has given much praise to the Dark Wallet project that was spearheaded by crypto-anarchists Cody Wilson and Amir Taaki, but stated that "it's not a completely decentralized approach.” [00:04]
ThickAsThieves or "they are asses" [00:05]
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mircea_popescu pity for wilson [00:05]
mircea_popescu it's sad how many promising young minds are ruined by the predilection of young minds for bad associations [00:05]
mircea_popescu today as in 1814 [00:05]
ThickAsThieves DarkCoin uses 11 rounds of different hashing functions [00:06]
mircea_popescu fluffypony http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725708 << this entire convo seems entirely nonsensical to me. [00:06]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:06]
mircea_popescu so you have a guy's affidavit that he sent me 10 btc to addy x in tx y. [00:06]
mircea_popescu so what now ? [00:06]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so ? [00:07]
fluffypony ThickAsThieves: DAISY CHAIN [00:07]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'd guess: much of the panic re: btc 'taint' etc. comes from u.s. folks, who can be sent to the gasenwagen on very loose - rather than hard, 'scientific' - evidence. [00:07]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't see any evidence whatsoever is th problem [00:08]
ThickAsThieves most americans have tainted all their coins by now [00:08]
mircea_popescu sothe 10btc is... moved to my wallet, from which a diff sum is spent on whatever, baby squirrel tears. so what now ? [00:08]
asciilifeform think 'astrology', not astronomy. [00:08]
mircea_popescu it's deposited to mpex, and a sum withdranw to pay for same. so... what ? [00:08]
mircea_popescu it's bet on bitbet, and it loses. sooo ? [00:09]
asciilifeform 'mr x owns black cat, is a witch' [00:09]
mircea_popescu it's moved to another address. so ? [00:09]
mircea_popescu they pick you up, you go "sorry, I sold them". [00:09]
mircea_popescu what now ? [00:09]
mircea_popescu if they ask you who you sold them to, you give them the name of the prosecutor in charge. [00:09]
mircea_popescu derp. [00:09]
asciilifeform inquisitor: 'ok, find me the fellow who bought. he'll sit on this here stake, next you yours, and will tell the truth' [00:09]
mircea_popescu "you, m'lad" [00:09]
ThickAsThieves you are suggesting an American to lie!? [00:10]
mircea_popescu since we're doing affidavits, prosecutor is welcome to an affidavit as to how he himself bought. [00:10]
mircea_popescu and he can go hang himself with it. [00:10]
asciilifeform inquisitor: 'libelling a faithful servant of the king, that'll be an extra two years on the stake' [00:10]
mircea_popescu no, it's the truth. [00:10]
ThickAsThieves Schrodinger's Truth [00:10]
mircea_popescu there is no such thing as bitcoin taint. attempts to solve this inexistent problem, just like all the other attempts to solve inexistent problems in the history of human engineering [00:11]
mircea_popescu are a waste of the presumptive solver's time. [00:11]
mircea_popescu many many MANY genius minds wasted most of their time in pursuit of similar nonsense. [00:11]
asciilifeform the proposed legal defense, though, will work about as well here as it would've in ussr. [00:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but that is entirely besides the point [00:11]
ThickAsThieves taint is a factor for terrorists though [00:11]
mircea_popescu no *coin or wallet* will ever solve the ussr-ness of the usa [00:12]
ThickAsThieves so taaki is obv a terrorist [00:12]
asciilifeform people are obsessed with technical 'solutions' because they cannot afford the actual working solution (suitcase, airplane, new passport) [00:12]
mircea_popescu that doesn't make them less of a waste of, presumably, valuable brain gasoline. [00:12]
asciilifeform aye [00:12]
asciilifeform but go tell the mortally ill fellow to renounce the snake oil [00:13]
asciilifeform he'll drink whatever. [00:13]
fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654861.0 [00:13]
assbot Crypto Kidz Digital Trading Cards [00:13]
fluffypony how come mircea_popescu doesn't have one? [00:13]
ThickAsThieves that reminds me [00:13]
mircea_popescu i r just saying so it's said. not intending to persuade. [00:13]
ThickAsThieves i was thinking of making a bitcoin comic [00:13]
ThickAsThieves if i can make the time [00:13]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i didn't have the time to log into rift even past two weeks [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06380017 = 0.7656 BTC [-] {3} [00:13]
ThickAsThieves basically illustrating the hostory of our window into bitcoin [00:14]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves wasn't nubbins` in the same boat ? [00:14]
ThickAsThieves maybe i dunno [00:14]
mircea_popescu aite. [00:14]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: was it you who turned down working F.MPIF on account of living in usa ? [00:14]
ThickAsThieves yes [00:15]
fluffypony OH! [00:15]
fluffypony hanbot DID get a card! [00:15]
fluffypony https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimg.org%2Fj6sihh89n%2Fmpoe1.gif&t=541&c=M38OPHGrb4N4Mg [00:15]
* asciilifeform counts the folks who told him he's condemned to the wagen [00:15]
ThickAsThieves nice! [00:15]
fluffypony ah [00:16]
fluffypony I found MP's [00:16]
fluffypony https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimg.org%2Fg6lok055d%2Fm_p_1.gif&t=541&c=bWIntMOTcEjaiQ [00:16]
asciilifeform fluffypony: lol, that's from my voyage photo set, isn't it [00:16]
fluffypony just had to scroll down [00:16]
fluffypony asciilifeform: yes I recognise the same [00:16]
mircea_popescu ahaha what, she's a dragon nao ?! [00:16]
ThickAsThieves that is a pretty awesome card mp [00:16]
ThickAsThieves you should be proud [00:16]
fluffypony yeah [00:17]
fluffypony you got Super Hero [00:17]
mircea_popescu doesn't it need like damage or something ? [00:17]
mircea_popescu perhaps i misunderstand this game [00:17]
ThickAsThieves i love how the graphics are so shitty [00:17]
kakobrekla yup, great stuff [00:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform can't shoot. [00:18]
kakobrekla wonder if nubbins can print those [00:18]
fluffypony res is too low I think [00:18]
ThickAsThieves itd be a horrible job for him [00:18]
ThickAsThieves many designs, low qty [00:18]
mircea_popescu omfg log end! [00:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yeagh, he can print them on rice beads [00:19]
asciilifeform original photo: http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/tri2.jpg [00:19]
ThickAsThieves actually, i could probably make a set pretty cheaply [00:19]
mircea_popescu actually a pretty good pic of her huh, she's like the mother of disdain [00:20]
asciilifeform just about everyone i showed the pics to, for some reason... wanted that one. [00:20]
kakobrekla 15k domains guy know all about bitcoin guy is missing :( [00:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform prolly you know a buncha subbies. [00:21]
asciilifeform lol [00:21]
ThickAsThieves i'm pricing it [00:21]
ThickAsThieves it'd be $17 per design to do 100 double-sided UV coated trading cards [00:22]
ThickAsThieves plus time to set up all the files [00:22]
asciilifeform http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6691171311_00f13b9524.jpg [00:22]
kakobrekla can you play that? [00:22]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: they're perfectly normal playing cards [00:23]
kakobrekla what are the rules? [00:23]
asciilifeform playing cards. you can play traditional games with them. [00:24]
kakobrekla a. [00:24]
kakobrekla i remember from childhood, sets of cards that were single, unique game sets [00:25]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: they have these in usa. with the added twist that the 'official' rules change regularly, requiring purchase of 'fresh' decks [00:26]
ThickAsThieves like UNO [00:26]
asciilifeform e.g. 'magic the gathering' [00:26]
ThickAsThieves ive played my fair share of mtg [00:26]
kakobrekla ah i never looked at mtg [00:26]
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mircea_popescu similarly to i remember from childhood, sets of cards that were naked women [00:27]
mircea_popescu great for strip poker [00:27]
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benkay wth is this [00:35]
benkay the label on this beer can is misaligned by a whole damn .125 [00:36]
benkay i wonder if they're printed first and then turned into cans or what. [00:36]
Mats_cd03 lol [00:39]
benkay ;;ident Mats_cd03 [00:39]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Mats_cd03', with hostmask 'Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqqpqahqadiceog', is identified as user 'mats', with GPG key id B9527964891A5566, key fingerprint B37F49DC35FD838B1F8783CC59C93F63549036BD, and bitcoin address None [00:39]
benkay ah, that's how you're doing it. [00:40]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot Mats_cd03 [00:40]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Mats_cd03: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Mats_cd03 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Mats_cd03 | Rated since: Tue May 13 15:07:43 2014 [00:40]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot mats [00:40]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqqpqahqadiceog. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mats: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mats | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mats | Rated since: Thu Jun 19 20:47:48 2014 [00:40]
benkay ;;rate mats 1 [00:40]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded. [00:40]
mike_c ;;rate mats 1 [00:41]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded. [00:41]
benkay overwhelming rate tsunami [00:43]
benkay of ones [00:43]
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benkay https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/salt/ [00:54]
benkay http://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/ [00:55]
benkay what am i looking at [00:55]
benkay private key generation over http? [00:55]
benkay with php for evaluation? [00:56]
punkman so I just put together something to test betting strategies on past bitbets and guess what, betting 0.1 on No on all resolved bets would result in a net gain of 9.7 BTC [00:57]
punkman (at 90k weight) [00:57]
mike_c median gain? [00:57]
mike_c or, median result? [00:58]
punkman let me check [00:58]
punkman mike_c, 0.0747 [01:01]
mike_c net or gross? [01:01]
punkman net [01:01]
mike_c impressive. [01:02]
punkman I'm just looking at bets with result = No [01:03]
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punkman total net gain is 36.3 BTC, then I subtracted 26.6 BTC that I would need for the 266 bets that had result = Yes [01:03]
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punkman 0.1 is the magic number, 0.2 leaves you with only ~4 BTC net gain [01:07]
punkman 0.08 on everything also gives ~10 BTC, 0.05 gives 8.5 BTC [01:10]
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kakobrekla 0.1 on all resolved would mean like 75btc [01:12]
kakobrekla 9.7 btc on top is over 10 percent [01:13]
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punkman yep pretty good strategy eh [01:13]
kakobrekla short the world. [01:13]
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punkman http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-have-fun-as-an-intelligent-person/ "Because the outcome is binary, if you bet randomly over a long enough horizon of bets you should break even (well, minus Bitbet’s 1% house edge)." [01:13]
assbot How to have fun as an intelligent person pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:13]
punkman so that's wrong ^ [01:13]
mike_c how is betting no on everything random? [01:14]
kakobrekla well it could be that yes will pay for the next two years [01:14]
kakobrekla but [01:14]
kakobrekla given the bitcoin community state, id say that is unlikely [01:14]
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punkman yes now that I've revealed this amazing strategy people will phrase propositions differently and ruin it [01:14]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:14]
kakobrekla you presume people read logs. [01:15]
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punkman mike_c: my rng is really bad [01:16]
punkman but my point was that betting randomly will not break even [01:16]
punkman unless you are flipping a really bad coin [01:17]
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kakobrekla wait until bitbet processes infinite amount of bets. [01:20]
kakobrekla er, resolves. [01:21]
* mthreat does this appear in the log [01:21]
mthreat appears so [01:21]
kakobrekla it appears it appears. [01:21]
penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/once-upon-a-time-i-wanted-to-draw-comic-books-for-a-living/ [01:21]
mthreat if things go smoothly we'll have a #bitcoin-assets log search engine in a few hours [01:21]
kakobrekla o you beat me to it [01:22]
kakobrekla good job [01:22]
mthreat who runs log.bitcoin-assets ? [01:22]
kakobrekla some schmuck [01:22]
mthreat cool.. i'll hit up said schmuck once it's live, and maybe we can have whatever process adds to the log also send it to the search engine, so it'll be instantly searchable [01:23]
kakobrekla hm, can you connect to 0mq socket? [01:25]
mthreat i haven't before, but if it's easy to do from java, then yeah [01:25]
kakobrekla it prolly is. [01:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20971806 = 1.0486 BTC [+] {5} [01:26]
kakobrekla ill set that up at some point then [01:26]
mthreat ok, or i can set up an http endpoint where you can POST irc entries as they come in [01:26]
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kakobrekla tbh i dont think its an issue if sync is done daily or so [01:27]
kakobrekla brb [01:27]
mike_c ^ agreed. pretty easy to search today's log. [01:27]
mike_c it's just looking for something said X weeks ago that's a pita [01:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [+] [01:30]
asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/06/scotus-finances-2013.pdf << lol, berkshire [01:30]
asciilifeform guess which scotus judge has debts. [01:31]
asciilifeform (1) [01:31]
benkay but !logsearch "foo" is going to be rad, mthreat, kakobrekla [01:33]
mthreat benkay: ya, who runs assbot? [01:34]
mike_c some schmuck [01:34]
mike_c ;;ident assbot [01:34]
gribble Nick 'assbot', with hostmask 'assbot!~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot', is not identified. [01:34]
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benkay Sumyungai [01:36]
benkay ;;gettrust sumyungai [01:37]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user sumyungai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=sumyungai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sumyungai | Rated since: Thu May 16 01:23:02 2013 [01:37]
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mike_c who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills? [01:37]
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mike_c i dun understand [01:37]
asciilifeform mike_c: usg sent several $b in actual benjamins to iraq. i thought this was common knowledge. [01:38]
ThickAsThieves i saw a swallow-tailed kite recently, didnt even know birds that looked like it existed http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OLOeI6hddls/T1YL5sfdhbI/AAAAAAAAHKU/Bt_jCJmbbzM/s1600/swallow-tailed+kit%C2%A9LillianStokes.jpg [01:38]
mike_c asciilifeform: so you're saying they filled up some duffel bags and walked out with $400m? that must have been heavy. [01:38]
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mike_c ;;calc 4000000 / 450 [01:39]
gribble 8888.88888889 [01:39]
mike_c 9,000 lbs of money.. [01:40]
asciilifeform a benjamin weights ~1g [01:40]
asciilifeform (same as other us currency) [01:40]
mike_c yeah. 4m bills / 450 grams per lb [01:40]
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asciilifeform 4000 kg, yes [01:42]
asciilifeform one dump truck. [01:42]
mike_c ok. that computes. seems like a logistical nightmare though. who guards the dump truck with $400m in it? [01:45]
asciilifeform a column of identical trucks. [01:46]
* asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't load the truck. but these are basics. [01:47]
mike_c somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going. [01:48]
mike_c and also, fu linux. g++: internal compiler error: Killed [01:49]
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benkay could be worse [01:50]
benkay os x [01:50]
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mike_c this is me today: http://widgetsandshit.com/teddziuba/2009/08/context-switches-are-bad-but-s.html [01:55]
assbot Context Switches are Bad, but Stack Traces are Worse [01:55]
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mike_c you know, without the annoying manager. [01:55]
benkay python is a code smell [02:02]
benkay ^^ new favorite incendiary device [02:02]
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benkay lob it at a bunch of programmers, watch the sparks [02:02]
asciilifeform wtf is a code smell [02:02]
benkay fuck if i know, but everyone gets riled up. [02:03]
benkay ;;google code smell [02:03]
gribble Code smell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Code Smells - Coding Horror: ; CodeSmell - Martin Fowler: [02:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0649 = 0.7788 BTC [-] [02:03]
* asciilifeform guesses it is the odour of perl used in confined quarters [02:03]
benkay "Code smells are usually not bugs—they are not technically incorrect and do not currently prevent the program from functioning. Instead, they indicate weaknesses in design that may be slowing down development or increasing the risk of bugs or failures in the future." [02:03]
asciilifeform tends to make people... hurl [02:03]
benkay ouch. [02:04]
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mike_c kakobrekla: you know bitcoind apparently takes in amounts in fucking btc, not satoshis? you probably knew this. this is retarded. [02:13]
mike_c news flash: bitcoind sucks. [02:13]
kakobrekla yes [02:13]
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kakobrekla at least it can handle sci notation [02:13]
kakobrekla or at least did. [02:14]
benkay working with bitcoin stuff makes me want types in a bad way [02:16]
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TheNewDeal bc,stats [02:39]
TheNewDeal bc,,stats [02:39]
benkay ;;bc,stats [02:40]
gribble Current Blocks: 306914 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1533 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15853327045.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.75846 [02:40]
benkay ;) [02:40]
Mats_cd03 hue [02:40]
Mats_cd03 c wut i did thar? [02:41]
benkay wut u doon [02:41]
benkay dis ain't 4chn breh [02:42]
Mats_cd03 har [02:42]
TheNewDeal thought I was one on one with gribble there [02:42]
Mats_cd03 assets search engine? already exists [02:43]
Mats_cd03 ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com dongs [02:43]
gribble NEXT: 10-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 24-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 24-06-2013 - #bitcoin-assets log: [02:43]
Mats_cd03 even works in channel, how nice is that? [02:43]
benkay oh c'mon let mthreat be useful [02:43]
benkay quit pissing in errybody cheerios [02:44]
Mats_cd03 my life sux wut m i gonna do besides criticize people [02:44]
benkay dunno boss maybe learn haskell? [02:45]
Mats_cd03 haskell is fucking gay [02:45]
TheNewDeal wooooh there. I've seen haskell fuck the hottest chicks [02:45]
Mats_cd03 my year long vacation from employment is about to end [02:46]
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TheNewDeal oooh I pulled a 6 month stint last year [02:46]
Mats_cd03 time to apply to be an it slave [02:46]
Mats_cd03 anyone want to buy me a nice collar? [02:46]
TheNewDeal peraps [02:47]
benkay you gotta earn those [02:47]
TheNewDeal how do I know it's not going to end up with hookers and blow though? [02:47]
mthreat haskell has a purpose ya know. at UT Austin it (was) used as a freshman weed-out class. [02:48]
mike_c so, g++ was crashing because not enough memory. it couldn't just tell me that? have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory? [02:48]
benkay Mats_cd03: what kinda IT do you do? [02:48]
benkay mike_c: you could be trying to run Jira yourself on the JVM. "not too little memory, not too much. just...right." [02:49]
benkay i suspect when one pays for hosted jira someone is staring at htop and intervening manually. [02:49]
Mats_cd03 i administered win machines and a few linux boxes for the nerds in the clean room at my last IT job [02:50]
Mats_cd03 along with misc work that comes with being lowest tier monkey in dept [02:50]
mike_c benkay: ugh. sounds worth paying for. [02:50]
Mats_cd03 im learning puppet so perhaps i can buy myself a nice collar [02:50]
benkay if you make pilgrimage to puppet hq make sure you ping me - beers on my tab [02:51]
Mats_cd03 i spent most of the last year doing firmware haxn in hopes id be good enough to apply for like jobs [02:52]
Mats_cd03 no such luck... [02:52]
TheNewDeal holy shit. Tesla was at 30$ last year? [02:52]
benkay mhm. [02:52]
benkay slt. [02:52]
Mats_cd03 thanks qt [02:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [+] [02:53]
benkay QE, d'ya mean? [02:53]
Mats_cd03 huh [02:54]
benkay 30 -> 229: it's gotta be Quantitative Easing [02:55]
benkay whats the qt you're talking about - not the UI kit? [02:56]
Mats_cd03 im sayn youre a cutie for offering a drink [02:56]
Mats_cd03 now im gay [02:56]
TheNewDeal hahaha [02:57]
TheNewDeal QE is definitely pumping the stocks at the moment [02:57]
benkay it's been a queer day, Mats_cd03 - it's not your fault. [02:57]
benkay must be the stars. [02:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06424997 = 0.514 BTC [+] {4} [02:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0639186 = 0.6392 BTC [-] {3} [03:00]
Mats_cd03 people are unreasonable when it comes to musk [03:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06373112 = 0.8285 BTC [-] {3} [03:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1025 @ 0.0008 = 0.82 BTC [-] [03:01]
benkay they just get a whiff and *blammmo* can't keep 'em off me [03:01]
Mats_cd03 you'd think he was jesus preparing to take the believers to live on mars [03:02]
Mats_cd03 from the way people pile on TSLA [03:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.06340475 = 1.3315 BTC [-] {4} [03:03]
TheNewDeal hahaha [03:03]
TheNewDeal benkay totally confused me for a second there [03:04]
TheNewDeal imagine if he let people purchase his cars with bitcoin [03:05]
TheNewDeal reddit would go craaazy [03:05]
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benkay and nothing would change. [03:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.0610754 = 1.7101 BTC [-] {4} [03:05]
benkay anyone with the btc to lay on a tesla can lay the cash on it, and probably more easily. [03:05]
kakobrekla afaik you can buy tesla with btc (buttstamp guys didit) [03:06]
benkay huh [03:06]
TheNewDeal did reddit go crazy?!? [03:06]
benkay i guess that's what you get when you sell directly - the freedom to take whatever [03:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.06006885 = 1.9222 BTC [-] {3} [03:06]
Mats_cd03 in practical terms it ends up converted to fiat anyway [03:06]
kakobrekla http://cdn.kme.si/public/images-cache/640xX/2013/12/18/36025dbe8663ff565475ac75d251530e/52b1bf4763e1f/36025dbe8663ff565475ac75d251530e.jpeg [03:07]
kakobrekla there ya go [03:07]
TheNewDeal http://mashable.com/2013/12/09/tesla-bitcoin/ this dude bought it for 91.4 BTC. Probably could return it for just as much right now [03:07]
assbot Man Buys $103K Tesla Model S With Bitcoin [03:07]
Mats_cd03 http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/09/tesla-model-s-bitcoin-purchase-false/ [03:07]
assbot Tesla not bought with Bitcoin currency after all? - Autoblog [03:07]
Mats_cd03 TheNewDeal: ^ [03:07]
benkay wow there's a fucking hack [03:07]
benkay buy a tesla with btc [03:07]
benkay let it depreciate [03:08]
benkay recoup btc [03:08]
Mats_cd03 you think dealerships have the freedom to hold btc? [03:08]
* kakobrekla paid 500btc for his golf cart [03:08]
Mats_cd03 they get fucking bent over by manufacturers, mate [03:08]
TheNewDeal I don't think the dealeship would allow your to return it for the same amount of btc [03:08]
benkay hang on i may be a few too beers deep to keep track of my +/- axes [03:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10675 @ 0.00079982 = 8.5381 BTC [-] [03:09]
benkay buy car, btc appreciates, car depreciates, get fucked. [03:09]
TheNewDeal yes but this would have been a different situation, as bitcoin was $1000+ at the time [03:10]
BingoBoingo mike_c: This is a troubling increase in hash [03:11]
benkay TheNewDeal: mhm. [03:11]
mike_c yeah, we lose. it's ok, we had good odds. [03:12]
TheNewDeal last two changes effed you guys [03:12]
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TheNewDeal I guess the 12.44 wasn't that bad [03:12]
TheNewDeal this current potential change and the last [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2505 @ 0.00080059 = 2.0055 BTC [+] [03:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0600106 = 0.6001 BTC [+] {4} [03:17]
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TheNewDeal I wouldn't mind if the hash jumped off a cliff right now [03:19]
TheNewDeal or took a big stumble [03:19]
TheNewDeal tried to make a little hedge bet on with the next change and it backfired in my face [03:20]
benkay don't bet against diff, boss [03:20]
TheNewDeal why does everyone say that? [03:21]
TheNewDeal part of the bet requires an actual decent estimate on what the diff will be at that point [03:21]
benkay hey nerds redis or memcached? [03:24]
punkman redis has more useful data structures [03:25]
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benkay decision made thank you punkman [03:27]
punkman benkay: maybe of interest: http://aphyr.com/posts/307-call-me-maybe-redis-redux [03:28]
assbot Call me maybe: Redis redux [03:28]
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benkay thanks again punkman [03:31]
benkay i'm not facing lots of writes but rather reads [03:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2780 @ 0.00080059 = 2.2256 BTC [+] [03:32]
punkman guy's doing some good there with that Jepsen thing [03:32]
punkman *some good work [03:32]
benkay aaaand i may not even use a cacheing layer at the end of the day [03:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.06491932 = 0.9738 BTC [-] {4} [03:35]
TheNewDeal wondering how many food stamps have been purchased with bitcoin [03:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.00080333 = 7.7481 BTC [+] {2} [03:39]
Mats_cd03 what universe do you live in [03:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00079845 = 3.2736 BTC [-] [03:43]
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TheNewDeal it was a joooke dude [03:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.06209101 = 1.366 BTC [-] {6} [03:45]
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moiety amiga? [03:46]
benkay hola aiga [03:47]
benkay amiga [03:47]
moiety hola! [03:48]
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moiety firefox just lost five pieces of work that ive been doing for past two days, so pissed off [03:49]
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moiety well not really pissed off, but it wasnt fun. how are you benkay? [03:50]
benkay brutal, bruja [03:52]
benkay i'm well [03:52]
benkay doing some exploratory hacking. it's coming along nicely. [03:53]
moiety sounds interesting [03:53]
benkay i'm sure you'll see something about it before i die [03:53]
benkay but also probably after the cardano ships [03:54]
moiety not the smallest window of time XD but i'll wait patiently :] [03:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06 = 0.66 BTC [+] [03:57]
benkay http://bitbet.us/bet/859/cardano-to-ship-in-2014/ [03:59]
assbot BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2014 :: 1.08 B (96%) on Yes, 0.05 B (4%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 week| weight: 85`913 (100`000 to 1) [03:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.06 = 1.68 BTC [+] [03:59]
benkay TheNewDeal: that TSLA bet is interesting - aren't we p.close to 250 already? [04:00]
mike_c TheNewDeal: everyone says that because 1) you can't draw a line from previous diff changes to future (see moore's law), and 2) despite this it just keeps marching up. [04:00]
benkay lol ya diff is watching bitbet just to fuck people who bet against it [04:01]
TheNewDeal mike_c , what I'm saying is that some people don't know how to calculate a good difficulty [04:01]
mike_c diff is mean-spirited asshole. [04:01]
TheNewDeal April, May, and :June were all Nos [04:02]
mike_c ok, so with your superior prognostication, what weight did you get on the may bet? [04:03]
TheNewDeal guess it was just april and may [04:03]
TheNewDeal never said I had superior prognostication [04:04]
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mike_c hehe. it was implied by "some people can't calculate" [04:04]
TheNewDeal I bet at the end of march [04:04]
TheNewDeal bet was started at the end of january [04:05]
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TheNewDeal here's the thing [04:05]
mike_c k. betting that difficulty won't double in a month is not "betting against diff" [04:05]
TheNewDeal The majority of those that bet Yes on May bet early [04:05]
TheNewDeal when it's much harder to tell [04:05]
TheNewDeal regardless [04:06]
TheNewDeal look at the majority of bets there [04:07]
TheNewDeal not just my late bet [04:07]
TheNewDeal I'm typically a conservative better [04:07]
mike_c the majority were late when it was obvious. [04:07]
TheNewDeal I would rather earn a sure, small portion, versus risk a lot [04:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14372 @ 0.00080006 = 11.4985 BTC [+] [04:07]
TheNewDeal after 84'000 weight, there were only 2 Yes bets [04:08]
mike_c all i'm saying is, if you think you have an edge, whip up some IDIFF.SEP contracts. [04:08]
TheNewDeal and those people were probably just looking at pot odds [04:08]
TheNewDeal I don't have the capital to trade on mpoe [04:08]
TheNewDeal would love to, but just not my reality [04:09]
mike_c coinbr is full featured these days. [04:09]
TheNewDeal staying far from coinbr for the time being [04:09]
TheNewDeal no offense, just not my cup of tea [04:09]
mike_c why? [04:09]
TheNewDeal I trading what I own and owning what I trade [04:09]
TheNewDeal i like * [04:09]
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mike_c you think coinbr is too much counterparty risk? [04:10]
mike_c ;;gettrust TheNewDeal jurov [04:10]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Trust relationship from user TheNewDeal to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=TheNewDeal&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012 [04:10]
TheNewDeal I have no problems with jurov [04:10]
mike_c i'm not trying to bust balls, i'm honestly curious. [04:11]
TheNewDeal let me throw out a hypothetical here [04:11]
TheNewDeal let's say I am comfortable investing 10 BTC through coinbr ( I'm not) [04:11]
TheNewDeal to me, a healthy return over one year (in BTC) would be 10% [04:12]
TheNewDeal that makes 11 BTC [04:12]
TheNewDeal subtract account management fees, and thats 10.76 [04:12]
mike_c ok, i'm with you [04:12]
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TheNewDeal with NO withdrawls, that has just taken 1/4 of my profits over a year [04:13]
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mike_c ok. so point #1, you think it's too expensive. but why wouldn't you be comfortable putting in 10 btc? [04:14]
TheNewDeal that's over 1/2 of my ownership [04:15]
TheNewDeal not an early adopter [04:15]
mike_c but you would be comfortable putting that much on bitbet? [04:15]
TheNewDeal most definitely [04:15]
TheNewDeal for instance [04:15]
TheNewDeal if I put down 10 BTC on this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ [04:15]
assbot BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (15%) on Yes, 415.18 B (85%) on No | closing in 5 months 22 hours | weight: 42`696 (100`000 to 1) [04:15]
TheNewDeal the return is sitting at ~9% over a 5 month period [04:16]
TheNewDeal and it's a hedge [04:16]
mike_c interesting. jurov, you need more WoT :) [04:16]
TheNewDeal it has nothing to do with trust [04:16]
mike_c well, it does if you're comfortable putting 10 btc in bitbet and not coinbr [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9528 @ 0.00080251 = 7.6463 BTC [+] [04:16]
TheNewDeal coinbr is restricted to MPOE stocks, and I'm very unfamiliar with them compared to those who trade [04:17]
TheNewDeal on bitbet, I can pick and choose what I feel comfortable with [04:17]
mike_c ok. lemme ask this then. if you thought you could get a 20% return on coinbr in a year, would you invest 10 btc? [04:17]
TheNewDeal perhaps less [04:18]
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TheNewDeal what I would really like to do is start off with 2 or so BTC until I feel comfortable with it [04:19]
TheNewDeal but that would be a waste of money [04:19]
mike_c how would you feel if the monthly fee were lower and the trading fees higher? [04:20]
TheNewDeal dislike [04:20]
mike_c well.. something's gotta cost. brokers aren't free. [04:21]
TheNewDeal I would prefer that he were like a hedge fund manager, making % off your winnings [04:21]
mike_c hm. hedge fund managers get a fee too. [04:21]
mike_c besides performance fees [04:21]
kakobrekla depends. [04:21]
kakobrekla :D [04:21]
TheNewDeal usually is a tiny percentage of what they manage [04:21]
punkman tweaked bitbet strategy: 10 BTC for 500x 0.02 bets, net gain 3.92 BTC [04:21]
TheNewDeal punkman, have you done this successfully? [04:22]
punkman I think I will try [04:22]
punkman just testing over past bets [04:22]
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mike_c except kako, who won't take any money unless he thinks he earns it (very un-hedge fund like) [04:22]
kakobrekla lol, less scammy. [04:23]
TheNewDeal the thing I also like about bitbet is that you can pick off bets that are almost for sure winners, and look for a certain return [04:26]
moiety nothing wrong with that, i'm same [04:26]
mike_c right up until you're wrong :) [04:26]
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moiety how can you be wrong wanting to earn your money XD [04:27]
punkman well if this retarded strategy can do 46% I think I got some margin for error [04:27]
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TheNewDeal that doesnt make sense to me [04:28]
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TheNewDeal arent you just picking and choosing past bets that would make money? [04:28]
punkman no [04:28]
TheNewDeal you're betting on everything? [04:28]
kakobrekla 46% what ? [04:28]
punkman 10.16 BTC in, net gain 4.59 BTC [04:28]
punkman betting on no, skipping certain bets [04:29]
TheNewDeal lol [04:29]
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TheNewDeal how would you know which to skip? [04:29]
mike_c punkman: you should look into some of the theory about backtesting. like, you can't use the same data you develop your hypothesis on to test your strategy. [04:29]
kakobrekla yeap [04:29]
kakobrekla well you can [04:29]
kakobrekla but it will be shit prolly. [04:29]
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mike_c heh, yes. "can't" is a strong word. [04:30]
kakobrekla :D [04:30]
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TheNewDeal is there a minimum for password protected bets? [04:33]
mike_c TheNewDeal: last comment from me, i'm really not trying to sell you. But that 'tiny percentage' you were talking about from hedge fund managers is usually 2%. which is the same fee as coinbr in your 10 BTC example. [04:33]
TheNewDeal 2% is more like a fee for an index fund [04:34]
kakobrekla the retarded standard is 2/20 [04:34]
TheNewDeal 2% fee and 20% of profit? [04:35]
kakobrekla yes 2% mgmt fee, 20 profit allocation [04:35]
* kakobrekla will burn your money for free. [04:35]
TheNewDeal mike_c if you read what I said, I told you that I was NOT comfortable risking 10 BTC on coinbr/mpoe [04:35]
TheNewDeal I said something more like 2 BTC to begin with [04:35]
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mike_c yup, i got that. just talking about the fees. [04:36]
TheNewDeal ;;calc .02*12/2 [04:36]
gribble 0.12 [04:36]
punkman mike_c, wanna make some synthetic data for testing? [04:36]
TheNewDeal punkman, are you betting both sides, or are you just picking winners :p [04:37]
mike_c punkman: you can cut up the data you have into pieces. but I really don't think there's enough for much confidence in results. [04:37]
mike_c strategy like MPIF's is really based more on a belief about how the system works rather than statistical analysis. [04:37]
mike_c but even that was better tested. hypothesis was formed before the analysis, not as a result of the analysis. [04:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.02021088 = 1.152 BTC [-] {4} [04:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00080649 = 12.7829 BTC [+] [04:41]
TheNewDeal mike_c my reason against coinbr is more of opportunity cost versus harboring any malice against the site or jurov [04:43]
mike_c understood. i just see you as a good potential customer for coinbr, so I was trying to dig into why you were hesitant. i think i get it. [04:44]
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TheNewDeal quiz question. If I were on coinbr, and then bought a MPOE account, what would he charge to transfer shares [04:45]
mike_c i believe withdrawal/asset transfers are the same [04:45]
TheNewDeal gotcha [04:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.01969756 = 0.65 BTC [-] {5} [04:46]
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TheNewDeal okay so I'm reading jurov's writeup on x.diff [04:51]
TheNewDeal I never knew about the collateral cap on payout [04:52]
ThickAsThieves a couple times a year jurov and i give mp a hard time about x.diff design [04:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.06499999 = 4.55 BTC [+] {2} [04:55]
TheNewDeal I'm really confused tho [04:56]
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TheNewDeal where's the money to be made for those that mkfut ? [04:56]
ThickAsThieves fwiw, if that TSLA bitbet gets approved, i'll play [04:56]
TheNewDeal which side will you bet :D [04:57]
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ThickAsThieves i'd need to chart it more [04:57]
ThickAsThieves i'd say yes probly [04:57]
[]bot Bet created: "Contador wins Tour De France" http://bitbet.us/bet/952/ [04:57]
TheNewDeal Dec 14 option for $250 is selling for a premium of 18$ [04:57]
ThickAsThieves i have a top around there though [04:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0185 = 0.925 BTC [+] [04:58]
decimation "mircea_popescu: well, for one if you fly high enough you don't actually have to report" << it's my understanding that you must file with IFR, which is generally high flight. Flying low in clear air (VFR) would be the ticket. [04:59]
decimation but even then, "they" are tracking you: http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works [04:59]
assbot How it works - Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker! [05:00]
decimation MLAT In some regions with coverage from several FR24-receivers we also calculate positions of aircraft with the help of Multilateration (MLAT), by using a method known as Time Difference of Arrival (TDOA). ... That means that MLAT coverage can only be achieved above about 10000 feet as the probability that signal can be received by four or more receivers increases with increased altitude. [05:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.065 = 0.91 BTC [+] {3} [05:00]
[]bot Bet created: "True Detective to win Drama Emmy" http://bitbet.us/bet/953/ [05:01]
decimation except... " Blocking For security and privacy reasons information about some aircraft is limited or blocked." I wonder how you get into their wot? [05:01]
TheNewDeal if all flights were tracked so damn well at least I would have to wake up to another fucking Flight 379 update [05:02]
decimation you mean 370? [05:02]
TheNewDeal yes [05:02]
TheNewDeal -9 [05:02]
decimation well, the data these guys use comes from "volunteers" who operate receivers attached to internet connection [05:03]
decimation not many of them in turd world countries or the ocean... [05:03]
TheNewDeal I will happily trade my constant position location as long as I don't have to have another one of those updates. Do you hear me Big Brother? You've finally won [05:03]
TheNewDeal just quit the tortute already [05:04]
decimation if you really want to move about mostly unbothered, I suggest a submarine. Or walk. [05:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3717 @ 0.00080481 = 2.9915 BTC [-] [05:07]
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decimation re: flew plane into IRS building: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack [05:10]
assbot 2010 Austin suicide attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [05:10]
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TheNewDeal holy shit! only two people died? [05:11]
[]bot Bet created: "Bitcoin VC investments over $300 million in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/954/ [05:11]
decimation "Introduced by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Section 1706 added a subsection (d) to Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978, which removed "safe harbor" exception for independent contractor classification (which at the time avoided payroll taxes) for workers such as engineers, designers, drafters, computer professionals, and "similarly skilled" workers." [05:13]
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decimation Congress took away the presumption that engineers can work as independent contractors, thus reducing their ability to be self employed. [05:14]
decimation whereas real estate agents have a "very special tax status" http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/real-estate-agent-special-classification-rules-for-independent-contractor-status.html [05:15]
assbot Real Estate Agent Special Classification Rules For Independent Contractor Status | Nolo.com [05:15]
decimation they are automatically considered to be independent contractors even when employed and given a salary. [05:15]
[]bot Bet created: "Tesla stock to close at over $250 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/955/ [05:17]
TheNewDeal here it is punkman, begin your hypothesis test on a fresh bet [05:18]
decimation now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? [05:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27638 @ 0.00080803 = 22.3323 BTC [+] {3} [05:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.06799962 = 1.836 BTC [+] {2} [05:27]
decimation http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/19/markets-precious-idUSL4N0P025U20140619 [05:27]
assbot PRECIOUS-Gold surges 3 pct in 'frantic' short covering after Fed| Reuters [05:27]
decimation presumably this is also good news for those long bitcoin [05:27]
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decimation asciilifeform - I was spec'ing some Intel chips today, and realized that their marketing strategy (for all segments) relies on maximally obfuscating the functionality of their products [05:30]
TheNewDeal hahahah [05:31]
TheNewDeal and somehow they continue to make a profit... [05:31]
decimation well, a large chunk of "computer" "purchasers" have no idea what the hell they are buying, so I can see why they would do it [05:32]
decimation it's hard to convince even the dumbest of the masses to pay more for less ... unless they don't know they are buying [05:32]
TheNewDeal I would assume corportations buy more computers than people though [05:33]
TheNewDeal doesn't necessarily negate your point, but [05:33]
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decimation a big chunk of corporate 'buyers' would really be happy with a slightly updated wang word processor [05:33]
decimation I use the scare quotes for "buyer" because I'm not sure the word applies to someone giving money to someone in exchange for something they don't understand [05:35]
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TheNewDeal you're taking most of the buyers out of the world economy with that statement [05:36]
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decimation indeed. [05:37]
moiety http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/google-unveils-independent-fork-of-openssl-called-boringssl/ [05:37]
assbot Google unveils independent fork of OpenSSL called BoringSSL | Ars Technica [05:37]
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mike_c dig @54.197.241.190 seeds.therealaltcoin.org [05:42]
mike_c ^ altcoin-seeder seems to be working [05:42]
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mike_c so ThickAsThieves, if you put a nameserver record in your DNS (NS, not an A record) pointing seeds.therealaltcoin.org at the above IP address, we should have seeding. [05:47]
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mike_c source code will have to be updated too obv, to add seeds.therealtco.org to the inital seed list. [05:48]
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TheNewDeal what happens to collateral when one sells an xdiff? [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.0008095 = 19.0637 BTC [+] {2} [05:57]
kakobrekla just wanna say before it go, mthreats search === awesome [05:58]
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decimation are you going to make the logs searchable with his software? [06:02]
mthreat yep [06:04]
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decimation mthreat your highest google result is the bbs interview - I like your model M keyboard in the background [06:07]
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mthreat decimation: ya that loud ass keyboard [06:22]
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mthreat !up napedia [06:29]
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Mats_cd03 white girl wasted [09:30]
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xmj moin [09:36]
xmj any SCUBA divers around? [09:36]
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mircea_popescu ah god orange juice [10:23]
mircea_popescu such a brilliant invention [10:23]
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punkman morning [10:54]
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mircea_popescu hey [11:00]
mircea_popescu shit it's 5am [11:01]
mircea_popescu who the hell is still on origin time after a month in a different timezone i wish to know ?! [11:01]
punkman I don't think you were on .ro time even when you were in .ro [11:02]
xmj people too lazy to fix their /etc/localtime. [11:02]
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mircea_popescu punkman hmm this is a point [11:03]
xmj!*@* added to ignore list. [11:03]
mircea_popescu tho i kinda tended to wake 11ish [11:03]
mircea_popescu which is what it's now [11:03]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/moar-haxxing-moar-haxxing-have-a-look-an-here-we-go/ [11:14]
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mircea_popescu benkay: the label on this beer can is misaligned by a whole damn .125 << maybe it's so it reads right when you're drunk [11:32]
cazalla mircea_popescu: i forgot to add dogecoin creator jackson palmer to the list of .au scammers [11:33]
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mircea_popescu what is it with you bunch of ex brtish convicts over there!!1 [11:34]
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mircea_popescu benkay: http://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/ << ok that's fuckign out there. [11:35]
mircea_popescu the sp[eed at which they spit the shit out, too. [11:35]
mircea_popescu urandom ? [11:35]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: short the world. << "the little bettor that said no" [11:37]
mircea_popescu mike_c: how is betting no on everything random? << how isn't it ? [11:39]
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mircea_popescu mthreat: if things go smoothly we'll have a #bitcoin-assets log search engine in a few hours << o hey! [11:39]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: hm, can you connect to 0mq socket? << kako doesn't get enough sex so he's socketed all the things. [11:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.02206642 = 1.5446 BTC [+] {6} [11:41]
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mircea_popescu benkay: but !logsearch "foo" is going to be rad, mthreat, kakobrekla << defo, point of entire exercize. [11:41]
mircea_popescu mike_c: who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills? << yes. [11:41]
mircea_popescu ro central bank has about a billion in shit in its central vault for instance. [11:42]
mircea_popescu these are precious metals, bearer bonds, various certs and other valuable paper [11:42]
mircea_popescu shitty middleeastern banks prolly keep usd/eur bills too [11:42]
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mircea_popescu mike_c: somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going. << you fundamentally misunderstand revolutions. [11:44]
mircea_popescu nobody's stealing that shit, forget about it. [11:44]
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mircea_popescu benkay << i can't believe the guy actually proposed an inability to remember wtf he's doing and why as a sort of intellectual manliness. [11:48]
mircea_popescu fuck you, if you don't recall why you're here you're red fucking riding hood here to meet the wolf, not a coder writing code. [11:48]
mircea_popescu "i am 12 and what is every option that i have explored ???" [11:48]
punkman stack trace is great for perspective [11:49]
punkman like maybe we need to tell root cause to fuck off [11:49]
mircea_popescu right. [11:49]
mircea_popescu "I'm compiling a new version of libxml, so I can get the Python parser working. I need to do that because LXML, the Python binding, would crash under heavy load when I used the system default version of libxml. I am using LXML because BeautifulSoup doesn't have support for XPath. I need to do XPath transforms against the input because the legacy system we interact with doesn't send well-formed XML. We tried to get the [11:49]
mircea_popescu vendor to fix it but they said 6 to 8 weeks for a patch, and our project deadline is sooner than that. I need to interface with the legacy system because even though the DBAs have ported things over to Oracle, they're still sorting things out and it's not reliable enough for me to make any meaningful progress. Fortunately, I've thought this through and abstracted the data subsystem well enough that I can drop-in repla [11:49]
mircea_popescu ce Oracle when it's ready, so long as the database sends some decent form of XML. Once I get this data subsystem done, I can finish the business logic, which attaches to the nonfunctional demo you love so much. [11:49]
mircea_popescu sounds pretty fine to me. [11:49]
mircea_popescu now, if the manager says something stupid now, like "why the fuck are you going for xpath you hipster, just do the transforms by hand" THEN poerhaps you got problems. [11:50]
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mircea_popescu but odds are he might as well go "fuck this shit, we're dropping that vendor. standby" [11:51]
mircea_popescu if he's any good you get the rest of the day off and tomorrow you can start working on a whole new stack [11:51]
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mircea_popescu http://devilsadvocate.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/inside-out.gif << ThickAsThieves actually that doesn't look bad [11:54]
mircea_popescu mike_c: news flash: bitcoind sucks. << now trace to who wrote the sht in question. [11:56]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: assets search engine? already exists << no, it doesn't, because google is doing a shit job of indexing each log page, which my experts establish is because bad titling shceme, but rather than fixing that (as proposed about two weeks ago, it's in the logs, SEARCH FOR IT :D) and hjoping google fills in the holes (which experts say it never does once they're in, no matter what happens), a complete solution is m [11:57]
mircea_popescu uch preferable, esp as it's offered itself. [11:57]
mircea_popescu the point to searching the logs is to get binding negatives more than anything else. [11:58]
mircea_popescu benkay: you gotta earn those <<< bwahaha look who's up to date on his reading [11:59]
mircea_popescu mike_c: have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory? << it doesn't know it ran out of memory, obviously. [12:00]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal:holy shit. Tesla was at 30$ last year? << ikr ? inflation! [12:01]
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mircea_popescu who da fuck is firedrops in the bash, http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=18 [12:07]
assbot #bitcoin-assets bash [12:07]
mircea_popescu i lulz'd. [12:07]
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mircea_popescu "We found out that by using a little program that Bitcoin uses, which is actually BitPay, we would have received US dollars," Pietro Frigerio, general manager of the dealership, says in the interview. "It's like if you come into the dealership and you want to buy a Lamborghini using gold bars, we would not accept it. So you'd go out, exchange it, and you'd come back to us. That was how it worked [with the Tesla and the [12:12]
mircea_popescu Bitcoins]." [12:12]
mircea_popescu awww. [12:12]
mircea_popescu http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/09/tesla-model-s-bitcoin-purchase-false/ [12:13]
assbot Tesla not bought with Bitcoin currency after all? - Autoblog [12:13]
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mircea_popescu so i guess this is the end of bitpay's business model. getting redditards that hound fiat busiensses to "take bitcoin" to drive your parasitic business model only goes so far. [12:14]
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mircea_popescu mike_c: diff is mean-spirited asshole. << aye! [12:18]
mircea_popescu mike_c: interesting. jurov, you need more WoT :) << that convo with thenewdeal was an eyepopper to me. [12:19]
mircea_popescu not saying he's wrong or anything, just wasn't expecting [12:19]
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mircea_popescu punkman: tweaked bitbet strategy: 10 BTC for 500x 0.02 bets, net gain 3.92 BTC << course this is after you know all the results. ain't rearview mirror the best artefact, second only to the save game wand. [12:21]
punkman no, I the strategy doesn't use information it wouldn't have [12:22]
mircea_popescu moiety: how can you be wrong wanting to earn your money XD << he was talking to the "picking bets" line [12:22]
mircea_popescu punkman I, The Strategy ? [12:22]
punkman :P [12:22]
mircea_popescu what do you mean, "doesn't use information it wouldn't have" ? [12:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 398 @ 0.06999986 = 27.8599 BTC [+] {3} [12:23]
punkman like looking at final odds but betting at 90k weight [12:24]
mircea_popescu *: kakobrekla will burn your money for free. << looking at mpif on btcalpha this stands to scrutiny :D [12:24]
punkman but yeah of course I don't expect it to hold true for future bets [12:24]
mircea_popescu right. [12:24]
mircea_popescu so you're not looking at some classes of later info [12:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 201 @ 0.07 = 14.07 BTC [+] {3} [12:24]
punkman although bitbet rules I think favor the No strategy, the no double negatives thing [12:26]
mircea_popescu mike_c: but even that was better tested. hypothesis was formed before the analysis, not as a result of the analysis. << not to mention independently tested etc. more's ther point, mpif wants unalligned risks, which is 90% of thy that even makes sense [12:26]
punkman the hypothesis for no was not made by backtesting [12:27]
mircea_popescu punkman if you go by wordcount nos may be ahead, but if you go by the actual measure of things, ie, total BTC bet on no vs yes, yes prolly prevails [12:27]
mircea_popescu cause as mike_c says, diff is a mean spirited asshol [12:27]
punkman anyway, I just defenestrated wordpress, maybe I can haz blog nao [12:30]
mircea_popescu defenestrated = deleted in windows ? [12:30]
mircea_popescu motherfucker. every sink in this place is on a different drip period [12:31]
punkman lol [12:31]
punkman I'm gonna work on a non-retarded strategy, wanna bankroll punkbot perhaps? [12:31]
mircea_popescu not at the onset, but if you do well and hanbot sucks maybe i fire her and hire you instead [12:32]
FabianB $traded [12:35]
empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR [12:35]
mircea_popescu decimation: but even then, "they" are tracking you: http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works << tracking a small flying object is no trivial task. [12:35]
assbot How it works - Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker! [12:35]
mircea_popescu kinda why missiles are so useful. [12:35]
punkman mircea_popescu: no no I need hanbot as a signal :P [12:37]
mircea_popescu lol [12:37]
mircea_popescu decimation: now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? <<< here's the thing : real estate agents are certified, and have to be bondend in many places, and have to follow best practices, and can and are put to the coals ifthey do not. [12:39]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, it monkeys are insulated by law from the ill effects of their bullshit "work" [12:39]
mircea_popescu you can't have it both ways. [12:39]
mircea_popescu the day three quarters of san francisco loses its homes because of writing bad code, engineers and similarly "skilled" workers can has special irs treatment. [12:40]
mircea_popescu ;;rated mthreat [12:42]
gribble You rated user mthreat on Fri Jun 6 20:38:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: had coffee. [12:42]
mircea_popescu ;;rate mthreat 2 Awesome search ; coffee [12:42]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 2. [12:42]
ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> http://devilsadvocate.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/inside-out.gif << ThickAsThieves actually that doesn't look bad /// the awkward part is i still have the art, it's in a custom acrylic frame i made with some nuts and bolts. It's this huge 4-foot ugly face me, collecting dust, facing the wall in my garage. [12:46]
mircea_popescu notrly that ugly. [12:46]
mircea_popescu moar like manly [12:46]
mircea_popescu as the romanian expression goes, "men need to be a shade prettier than the devil gurning." [12:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00079875 = 16.2546 BTC [+] {3} [12:48]
ThickAsThieves TIL gurning [12:49]
mircea_popescu let it not be said -assets is uneducational. [12:49]
ThickAsThieves it's just a funny thing about self-portraits, they hang in no one's home [12:50]
ThickAsThieves probly a metaphor in there... [12:51]
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mircea_popescu frida's are a fine exception [12:51]
ThickAsThieves confucius say, a self-portrait hangs in no one's home, unless it has a unibrow [12:53]
mircea_popescu lol [12:53]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [12:53]
mircea_popescu she also had a slight moustache [12:54]
ThickAsThieves indeed [12:54]
ThickAsThieves whoa MPOE broke 80 [12:56]
ThickAsThieves such milk [12:56]
mircea_popescu i thought it was over 80 for a whil [12:57]
mircea_popescu e [12:57]
mircea_popescu o you mean the other way [12:58]
ThickAsThieves yep [12:59]
ThickAsThieves lacks drama obv [12:59]
ThickAsThieves time to stir the pot [12:59]
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ThickAsThieves icwutudidthar [13:02]
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mircea_popescu !up mckmuze [13:05]
-assbot- You voiced mckmuze for 30 minutes. [13:05]
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ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [13:10]
gribble Current Blocks: 306980 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1467 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15633250005.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.12373 [13:10]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/19/5824336/google-s-quantum-computer-just-flunked-its-first-big-test [13:13]
assbot Googles quantum computer just flunked its first big test | The Verge [13:13]
ThickAsThieves no quantum for you [13:13]
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ThickAsThieves Supreme Court rules software patents that cover 'abstract ideas' are invalid [13:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00080045 = 6.7238 BTC [+] {2} [13:54]
ThickAsThieves Alice attempted to prove that its patents were more than just an idea by pointing to the specific software steps that it had to carry out. But the court found that these steps weren't ultimately much more than "stating an abstract idea while adding the words 'apply it with a computer.'" [13:54]
mircea_popescu myeah. [13:55]
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ThickAsThieves Every bitcoin bubble peak has occurred during a new moon, the next new moon is on the June 27th, the SR USMS coin auction is on the 27th, the auction resolves the June 30th, professor bitcorn predicted Bitcoin would be $10 by mid-year. [14:04]
ThickAsThieves expect weather! [14:05]
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Namworld Hail? Lightning? Tornadoes? Volcanic ash storm? I like those things. [14:14]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/supplemental-visual-aids-as-well-as-images-pictures-photographs-and-instagrams-y-con-queso/ [14:14]
Namworld I like my sky ablaze: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/15/article-2539941-1AAF51B500000578-416_964x612.jpg [14:14]
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mircea_popescu who the fuck is "professor bitcoin" [14:23]
punkman *bitcorn [14:26]
Namworld By the name the individual selected, I would assume a pretentious moron? [14:26]
punkman ;;google professor bitcorn [14:27]
gribble Professor Bitcorn Countdown to $10: ; Professor Bitcorn : Bitcoin - Reddit: ; Professor Bitcorn strikes...again : Bitcoin - Reddit: [14:27]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [18:26]
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mircea_popescu !up Pucilowski [18:28]
-assbot- You voiced Pucilowski for 30 minutes. [18:28]
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decimation apparently Russia was listening to our conversation about native electronics the other day: http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804 [18:30]
assbot ITAR-TASS: Economy - Russia wants to replace US computer chips with local processors [18:30]
mircea_popescu lol wants. question is, can it. [18:30]
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decimation apparently there is "progress" in the winklevoss etf http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitcoin-etf-inching-closer-to-reality-cm358963 [18:33]
assbot Bitcoin ETF Inching Closer To Reality - NASDAQ.com [18:33]
decimation I'm not sure if the sec filing has been linked here http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312514190365/d721187ds1a.htm [18:34]
mircea_popescu btw, did the derpage foundation have any comment as to ubuntu dropping bitcoin from 14.04? [18:34]
mircea_popescu or is that not the sort of thing they do. [18:34]
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decimation " Using an exponential moving average and volume weighting of transaction data, Winkdex is derived from the transaction prices on electronic market places where exchange participants may first use fiat currency to trade, buy and sell bitcoins based on bid-ask trading (?Bitcoin Exchange?). " [18:40]
mthreat Behold, http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/ [18:41]
assbot #bitcoin-assets search [18:41]
mircea_popescu mthreat lettuce see. [18:42]
mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom [18:42]
assbot urmom [18:42]
decimation that's really fast [18:42]
mircea_popescu mthreat you telling me under pain of per-jury that there's a page and a half of instances ands that's all ? [18:43]
mircea_popescu also how are they sorted ? [18:43]
decimation yeah, 'sort by date' would be useful [18:44]
mthreat right now they are ranked by TF*IDF (text relevance, based on term matches) [18:44]
mthreat like google, without the pagerank [18:44]
mircea_popescu add history as an optional i say [18:44]
mthreat ok, sort by date is easy [18:44]
mircea_popescu often we remember one exact word, and a timerange [18:44]
mthreat history? [18:45]
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decimation well, even in this state it's 100x better than google [18:47]
punkman mthreat, nice, what's it using behind the scenes? [18:48]
mthreat searchify.com hosted search [18:48]
mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/wwAvQZy9 << tha's my list [18:48]
assbot Sep 11 21:36:04 no fambly just urmom. Sep 11 23:49:19 [18:48]
mircea_popescu does it match ? [18:48]
mircea_popescu mthreat history, as in, list them by reverse-date [18:48]
mircea_popescu decimation agreed. [18:49]
mthreat well "urmomtc" won't match urmom (the stemmer isn't THAT smart) [18:49]
mthreat but urmom* will match [18:49]
mircea_popescu * matches alphanum only? [18:50]
mircea_popescu or all nonspace ? [18:50]
mthreat foo* is a prefix search, matches any word beginning with "foo" [18:50]
mircea_popescu word in unix sense of the term ? [18:50]
mircea_popescu (is mircea_popescu a word or innit) [18:50]
mthreat I think mircea_popescu gets tokenized into "mircea" "popescu" [18:51]
mircea_popescu aha [18:51]
mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom&gazelle [18:51]
assbot urmom [18:51]
mircea_popescu that didn't actually work as expected. how'd i make it return lines with both words ? [18:52]
mircea_popescu woot AND [18:52]
mthreat urmom gazelle [18:52]
mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom+AND+gazelle [18:52]
assbot urmom AND gazelle [18:52]
mthreat just enter both words [18:52]
mthreat AND is default [18:52]
mthreat OR is possible: urmom OR ordad [18:52]
mircea_popescu Matches for urmom OR gazelle, 29 total results http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom+OR+gazelle kinmda funny [18:53]
assbot urmom OR gazelle [18:53]
mircea_popescu this thing is blazing fast, i am impresst! [18:53]
mthreat the magic of inverted indexes [18:53]
mircea_popescu your name shall live forever in the pantheon of really evil mean spirited rich people [18:53]
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moiety mobile broadband truly sucks [18:58]
mircea_popescu wb [18:58]
moiety thank you :] [18:59]
moiety on two counts actually because if not for you, i wouldn't be getting normal broadband :D [18:59]
mircea_popescu uh ?! [18:59]
nubbins` aw, bless [19:00]
moiety i wouldn't have had funds for it [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75339676 BTC to 9`388 shares, 18677 satoshi per share [19:00]
mthreat argentina vs. iran game just started [19:00]
mircea_popescu lol [19:01]
mircea_popescu if iran kicks them out... [19:01]
mircea_popescu prolly the start of argentina's nuclear arms programme [19:01]
* moiety wonders if the street arse-shaking parades will continue after the world cup [19:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 11.09076650 BTC to 29`438 shares, 37675 satoshi per share [19:03]
mircea_popescu there's no parades atm ? [19:04]
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moiety o i thought there were, maybe everyones inside watching [19:06]
mircea_popescu kinda ya [19:06]
mircea_popescu besides, they count this rather mild 10ish degrees weather as vERY COLd [19:07]
nubbins` i have a relative who lives in brazil, he said one time it plunged to 9C overnight and homeless people died from exposure :0 [19:07]
mircea_popescu o.O [19:09]
mircea_popescu and meanwhile you wereall "dude i WISH it were 9, i'd take the girls out to the nude beach" [19:09]
nubbins` there's a very narrow range of acceptable temperatures here [19:09]
mircea_popescu new foundland and labrador nude beach : "the only fur here is on your dog" [19:10]
nubbins` 18-22 is "nice" [19:10]
nubbins` above or below is too hot/cold [19:10]
nubbins` although that's generally more of an indication of our tendency to complain than anything else [19:10]
mircea_popescu kinda how it is everywhere neh ? [19:10]
mthreat in the bahamas once, the local girl was shivering when it was 21 degrees C [19:10]
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nubbins` too bad canada doesn't have an island in the caribbean [19:13]
nubbins` i feel so left out [19:13]
mircea_popescu !up Cosmos [19:13]
-assbot- You voiced Cosmos for 30 minutes. [19:13]
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Cosmos thanks ;p [19:14]
mircea_popescu what, canada is a colonial power now ?! [19:14]
Cosmos is bitbet here? [19:14]
mircea_popescu Cosmos hey there. and who might you be ? [19:14]
mircea_popescu yes, bitbet is here, if you want to say nice things about it. [19:14]
mircea_popescu if not, kakobrekla's not up yet. [19:14]
Cosmos I am Carl Sagan, resurrected last week, very fresh ;)) [19:14]
mircea_popescu name sounds familiar... [19:15]
Cosmos so are you a co-owner or employee of bitbet [19:15]
Cosmos cuz I was looking to msg one of them [19:16]
Cosmos I might just have to email 'em lol [19:16]
mircea_popescu im a co owner. [19:17]
Cosmos that's interesting [19:17]
Cosmos https://www.bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657583 [19:21]
assbot ~A Landscape of Crypto~ [19:21]
Cosmos yea! xD [19:21]
Cosmos such services, very vast [19:21]
Cosmos I can also still send the email at info@bb...us if you want [19:22]
mircea_popescu so you're looking for info on bitbet for your tardstalk post or what was it ? [19:23]
nubbins` strange [19:24]
Cosmos lol [19:25]
Cosmos no, i'm looking for tips [19:25]
Cosmos from having assembled & tested the info, written review, & freely advertised the sites [19:25]
Cosmos I've gotten some from 2 sites so far [19:26]
mircea_popescu well, ok, here's a tip : you've found the place where bitcoin actually happens. if you spend your next year reading the logs (they're in the topic) you'll be better off than if you spend your year doing anything else. [19:26]
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mircea_popescu also, since you seem linguistically inclined, fluffypony was hiring someone to do summarization of same logs. [19:26]
mircea_popescu it may be he has a further job for an eager but diligent young man [19:26]
Cosmos you have my ears [19:27]
Cosmos and by tip I meant mostly actual BTC sent to me, but you figured that out ;)) [19:27]
mircea_popescu how old are you btw ? [19:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48300 @ 0.00080149 = 38.712 BTC [-] {3} [19:28]
Cosmos 79 [19:29]
nubbins` lel [19:29]
nubbins` looking for tips :0 [19:29]
Cosmos I was born as Carl E. Sagan in Nov 9, 1934 [19:29]
mircea_popescu btw, speaking of the derp foundation : did it yet get around to pointing out that people who had stopped updating bitcoin pre 8.0 were invulnerable to heartbleed, whereas people who hadn't stopped updating lost all their key material in the interval ? [19:29]
mircea_popescu preferably in the terms of, "anyone who didn't obey mp blindly on the score got raped, sorry, insert quarter to play again" ? [19:30]
Cosmos @ nubbins yea man, I've done free work, if site owners like it, they can donate/reward for it, pretty straightforward ;)))) [19:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.0687 = 2.1984 BTC [-] {2} [19:33]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [19:33]
gribble Current Blocks: 307042 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1405 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 24 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16070092412.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.36859 [19:33]
mircea_popescu 16mn o.O [19:34]
Cosmos ohhh gribble [19:34]
mircea_popescu bitch just won't let go. [19:34]
Cosmos I heard he was a god [19:34]
* assbot gives voice to BingoBoingo [19:34]
BingoBoingo Fucking hashpower [19:34]
BingoBoingo ;;ident Cosmos [19:34]
gribble Nick 'Cosmos', with hostmask 'Cosmos!6b81228a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.129.34.138', is not identified. [19:34]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla btw we absoleetly need mthreat's thing piped in assbot [19:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0687 = 1.9923 BTC [-] [19:34]
nubbins` gribs is making a grab for the SR coins [19:34]
nubbins` so he can live forever [19:34]
mircea_popescu i dun see him dieing tbh. [19:35]
BingoBoingo ;;google carl sagan public key [19:35]
gribble Carl Sagan: 'Science Is a Way of Thinking' - Science Friday: ; Carl Sagan Collection - CSI: ; Carl Sagan and the Cosmos Legacy | National Geographic Channel: [19:35]
Apocalyptic Cosmos, what work have you exactly done, excluding the mere fact of putting variably relevant links to bitcoin-related services together in a huge list ? [19:36]
nubbins` ^ [19:36]
nubbins` that's about the sum of it [19:36]
mircea_popescu he's new, give him a break. [19:36]
nubbins` he also formatted some of the links by length [19:36]
Cosmos also [19:36]
Cosmos I made reviews [19:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00080023 = 10.1229 BTC [-] {2} [19:36]
BingoBoingo Cosmos: I've had great results with the Bitbet referral links, you can ask jurov for more info [19:37]
mircea_popescu Cosmos you understand the basic idea that the value of a review strictly rests with the known facts of the reviewer, [19:37]
mircea_popescu for which reason reviews by anon entities are not worth reading ? [19:37]
Cosmos if you scroll down, you see them, for mining share trading sites, for bet sites, and passive investing/ponzi [19:37]
mircea_popescu people read taki's column for him being taki and so on. [19:37]
Cosmos Hmmm [19:37]
Cosmos anyway the ppl who put websites in their sig's in forums..get paid by said websites....... for the free publicity/exposure...... [19:38]
Cosmos those people are almost all anon... [19:38]
Cosmos and w/ relatively low / obscure unknown rep, too [19:38]
mircea_popescu sure. my girl paid people once in the same way. [19:38]
Cosmos excluding the 'personalities' and hero members etc [19:38]
nubbins` "paid" is almost not the right word [19:39]
Cosmos that's why I called it 'tipping' [19:39]
nubbins` someone tosses you a couple of pennies, you don't call it a paycheque [19:39]
Cosmos just as a token of appreciation [19:39]
BingoBoingo I think you misunderstand the root of tipping. [19:39]
BingoBoingo The word tip cleanly refers to a bribe of sorts... To Insure Prompt service. [19:40]
nubbins` BingoBoingo: you mean tipping isn't when you give someone money because you pity them for wasting everyone's time? [19:40]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Well, tipping is a present you give somone you pity to save you from inconvenience [19:41]
Cosmos LOL [19:41]
Cosmos well I'll take your 'looking-down-on' & accept it gladly in my wallet address [19:41]
BingoBoingo It's why you tip the porter and the concierge [19:41]
Cosmos Cuz then [19:41]
Cosmos I'll send it to MintPal [19:42]
Cosmos buy XC at 120 [19:42]
BingoBoingo Cosmos: Seriously get of the forums and start a blog [19:42]
Cosmos and sell it right back at 125 [19:42]
BingoBoingo %book [19:42]
atcbot 50k@240 16k@235 2k@222 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 [19:42]
Cosmos rinse/repeat to gribble-legendary levels of wealth [19:42]
mircea_popescu ;;google "BTC doesn't care about the SEC. MPEx rules!" [19:42]
gribble The reasons why Bitcoin securities can't be regulated by the SEC ...: ; SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered ...: ; The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: [19:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 83 @ 0.0687 = 5.7021 BTC [-] {2} [19:42]
mircea_popescu incredible how much gribble sux. [19:42]
nubbins` ;;echo not as bad as $randnick [19:43]
gribble not as bad as Mats_cd03 [19:43]
Cosmos Yea of course I thought of that, but the problem w/ blogs is, they are steeped in this culture/reputation of self-importance & personal author's life drama sht [19:43]
mircea_popescu anyway, something like https://bitcointa.lk/threads/lets-have-a-little-fun-then-shall-we.69076/ did you mean, cosmos ? [19:43]
nubbins` heh. [19:43]
assbot Let's have a little fun then, shall we. | Bitcointa.lk [19:43]
* assbot removes voice from Cosmos [19:43]
BingoBoingo Cosmos: "No social features except for official FreeNode IRC Chat." << Bitbet totally has comments [19:44]
mircea_popescu !up Cosmos [19:44]
BingoBoingo !up Cosmos [19:44]
-assbot- You voiced Cosmos for 30 minutes. [19:44]
* assbot gives voice to Cosmos [19:44]
* assbot gives voice to Cosmos [19:44]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> The word tip cleanly refers to a bribe of sorts... To Insure Prompt service. << nah, i disagree. [19:44]
mircea_popescu tips are actually constructive. [19:44]
BingoBoingo Bribes are constructive too [19:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00080259 = 9.8317 BTC [+] [19:44]
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BingoBoingo Useful [19:44]
nubbins` bribes are destructive [19:44]
Cosmos https://bitcointa.lk/threads/lets-have-a-little-fun-then-shall-we.69076/ = yep, i just might [19:45]
assbot Let's have a little fun then, shall we. | Bitcointa.lk [19:45]
mircea_popescu not really. bribes are the final example of the disaster of commons [19:45]
mircea_popescu the prototype of the bribe is the cut the fence gives to the thief. [19:45]
Cosmos ok its a donation, not a bribe [19:45]
Cosmos you donate because I will change the world for good [19:45]
mircea_popescu whereas tips fall squarely in the charity thing [19:45]
nubbins` you tip someone, you'll get above-average service. you bribe someone, you'll get standard rather than sub-par [19:45]
Cosmos I do not think I personally deserve much (ego) therefore I am near-incorruptible [19:45]
mircea_popescu ;;echo not as bad as $randnick << shit i meant google not gribble. [19:46]
nubbins` :D [19:46]
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nubbins` was gonna say [19:46]
Cosmos Given power, I will try my best to give as many deserving people as possible, better opportunities for improving their lives [19:46]
mircea_popescu Cosmos do you spend a lot of time on reddit? [19:46]
nubbins` GIVEN POWER [19:46]
Cosmos Not yet lol [19:46]
mircea_popescu nubbins` ya srsly. [19:46]
Cosmos See, weak people are afraid of power [19:46]
nubbins` create-your-own-protip [19:46]
Cosmos Because they know too well, it would corrupt them even more, very quickly [19:46]
mircea_popescu power is taken, not given, little grashopper. and your humble nonsense makes you both the most dangerous and the least likely to succeed character. [19:47]
nubbins` ^ [19:47]
Cosmos The strong don't fear power, those with true integrity, like Buddha, and Gandhi [19:47]
nubbins` i think we have an Achiever [19:47]
mircea_popescu the two have nothing in common except for western ignorance. [19:47]
mircea_popescu also, your culture is lacking. do you know ghandi used to sleep with his underage niece ? [19:47]
Cosmos ahh you use 'Western'! my gf wants to slap me everytime i use that word, she identifies with it too much [19:47]
Cosmos That's fine [19:48]
Cosmos As long as she was mature for her age & was consenting [19:48]
mircea_popescu drove people up the wall at the time. [19:48]
mircea_popescu she was not, either. [19:48]
mircea_popescu and they were naked. [19:48]
Cosmos Oh really [19:48]
mircea_popescu yes really. [19:48]
Cosmos I thought they'd be dressed [19:48]
mircea_popescu ghandi didn't like to do laundry [19:48]
mircea_popescu so he mostly didn't dress. [19:48]
nubbins` who does?! [19:48]
Cosmos Btw almost everytime I talk, I'm half-trolling, but I always mean well [19:48]
nubbins` see, that'd be a good cover story for dov charney, if it weren't for the fact that he was strolling around a clothing factory naked ;( [19:49]
Cosmos I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive [19:49]
mircea_popescu yes i get it, you were kidding after the fact, like that xfg or w/e his name was. [19:49]
mircea_popescu the avatars of youth. [19:49]
nubbins` if you're so brilliant, why are you spending your time writing website summaries and bumming for spare change? [19:50]
BingoBoingo %ticker [19:50]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 222 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A [19:50]
Cosmos I'm acutely aware of how appearing as a newbie & suddenly talking big about myself & donations & work etc makes me look at first glance, which is why I'm playing it up w/ it massively, for mutual entertainment [19:50]
* nubbins` facepalms [19:50]
mircea_popescu oic. [19:50]
mircea_popescu this is like Game taken meta. [19:50]
nubbins` mmhmm [19:50]
nubbins` did anyone win the chess tourney after? [19:51]
mircea_popescu nubbins` shut up and drool out of your hole biatch :D [19:51]
nubbins` too cool to drool [19:51]
mircea_popescu omfg [19:51]
mircea_popescu that line is just too good. consider it stoled. [19:51]
BingoBoingo !b 4 [19:51]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1NPWF36.txt ) [19:51]
nubbins` mp's first tattoo [19:51]
mircea_popescu no, but ima lay it on all the frigid uruguayan chix [19:52]
Cosmos It's the psychology of 'return the favor' - when wanting something, ask/suggest being given a minute fraction of it, to make the other party comfortable about your humility and more likely to actually give the whole amount you ulteriorly desired in the first place [19:52]
nubbins` i don't think it rhymes in spanish ;( [19:52]
mircea_popescu it's... "cold" here, you see. [19:52]
nubbins` fun fact, peruvians call their tongue "castellano" as well [19:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` so lettem learn english [19:52]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Fell apart. If attempted would require something roughly resembling a schedule [19:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah apparently it's all of the west of south america + central [19:53]
mircea_popescu Cosmos does it work ? [19:53]
Cosmos is there any cryptorelated IRC channel [19:53]
Cosmos w/ more activity & wit than this here [19:53]
Cosmos I have been -looking- for this for a while [19:53]
mircea_popescu prolly not with more activity, but you could go ask in bitcoin-dev [19:53]
nubbins` heh [19:54]
Cosmos #bitcoin itself is ghost town, hundreds too scared to talk/troll [19:54]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what, im taking the mutual entertainment bit seriously. [19:54]
Cosmos it does work, mircea [19:54]
Cosmos I've had 2 ppl send me more than I suggested [19:54]
nubbins` no kidding :D [19:54]
Cosmos b/c I had been so humble [19:54]
nubbins` dude, you'll never believe what happened yesterday [19:54]
nubbins` i asked some guy for five bucks and he sucked my cock instead [19:55]
mircea_popescu Cosmos do they have confirmation bias where you go to school ? [19:55]
moiety the crypto ones are usually pretty dead and you won't find more wit than here [19:55]
Cosmos lol you think I'm under 21 [19:55]
Cosmos the school implication [19:55]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i asked some chick for milanesa con queso and she fucked me instead. [19:55]
nubbins` we easily forget that 25 is the new 15 [19:55]
mircea_popescu and all i wanted was a damned cheese steak [19:55]
mircea_popescu but she liked my humble manner [19:55]
mthreat damn you passed on the milanesa [19:55]
mircea_popescu mthreat nah, i buy them at the butcher's. [19:56]
nubbins` coño con queso [19:56]
Cosmos good thing @ 1986 i'm quite beyond both, actually sad thing in fact, years never return ;p [19:56]
mthreat ew [19:56]
nubbins` :D [19:56]
mircea_popescu mthreat it could be danish... [19:56]
mircea_popescu give it a wild, tangy aftertaste [19:56]
nubbins` Cosmos: so you're 28 years old and writing website summaries for tips? :( [19:56]
mthreat sin gas, por favor [19:56]
nubbins` jesus [19:56]
Cosmos help me then [19:56]
nubbins` agua con gaz is fuckin gross [19:56]
moiety it's all about presentation ;P [19:57]
mircea_popescu cono sin gas y queso [19:57]
mircea_popescu Cosmos you ever saw "a man for all seasons" ? [19:57]
Cosmos and no, I'm a trader [19:57]
Cosmos @mircea no [19:57]
nubbins` my sides [19:57]
BingoBoingo Cosmos: Are you familiar with Altcoin? [19:57]
Cosmos The forum crap I just did for like [19:57]
BingoBoingo %diff [19:57]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 442680.02 in 281 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.12 [19:57]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you know the quote i had in mind ? [19:57]
Cosmos to see how much fame i'd get [19:57]
nubbins` FOR LIKE A COOL JOKE LELEL [19:57]
nubbins` mp haven't seen it :( [19:58]
Cosmos i only got 220 total views in 2 threads [19:58]
Cosmos so its been barely helpful to anyone [19:58]
nubbins` Cosmos, you sound really lame :( [19:58]
Cosmos oh well [19:58]
nubbins` sorry for your loss [19:58]
Cosmos gotta video it up on youtube if you rly want views [19:58]
Cosmos now THAT would take my time [19:58]
nubbins` maybe it's not how much time you spend [19:59]
Cosmos ..away from profitable daytrading [19:59]
ThickAsThieves nubbins` do you have any comments on Titan Bitcoin? [19:59]
nubbins` tat, sorry, got your message. gold ones look cool but i don't really keep up with them [19:59]
ThickAsThieves word, i'ma do a review [19:59]
nubbins` i know michail1 and maybe Blazedout419 are into them [19:59]
Cosmos @boingo Let me answer your query with this : [19:59]
Cosmos ~ E N C Y C L O P E D I C A L T C O I N S D A T A B A S E ~ * = Virtual CryptoCurrencies marked w/ "*" symbol are not currently listed on Cryptsy/MintPal's BTC-/LTC-Denominated Markets at the moment, & are thus pending larger-scale community adoption. ꜝ = This symbol denotes that the name or acronym entered for the CryptoCurrency in question is merely a personally-preferred colloquial term, and not the actual ter [19:59]
Cosmos lol text max reached [19:59]
Cosmos let's try this part [20:00]
Cosmos +[BET] BetaCoin T0 +[ANC] AnonCoin T4 +[BUK] CryptoBuck T2 +[CAP] BottleCap T1 +[CRC] CraftCoin T1 +[CLR] CopperLark T1 +[CGB] Cryptogenicꜝ T3 +[CMC] CosmoCoinꜝ T1 +[COMM] CommunityCoin T° +[UNB] UnbreakableCoin T1 +[LGD] LegendaryCoin T1 +[NAUT] NautilusCoin T2 +[EMC2] Einsteinium T° +[FLT] FlutterCoin T0 +[EXE] EXECoin T1 +[DEM] e-Mark T0 +[FST] FastCoin T0 +[EZC] EZCoin T0 +[IXC] IXCoin T2 +[NBL] Nibble T1 +[WC] Whit [20:00]
nubbins` fuck off [20:00]
Cosmos lol [20:00]
Cosmos sry [20:00]
mircea_popescu nubbins` http://pastebin.com/dyVep8eq [20:00]
ThickAsThieves where am i? [20:00]
assbot RICH (Voice cracking) You look at me as though I were an enemy! MORE (Pu - Pastebin.com [20:00]
mircea_popescu and after thatthey go into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBiLT3LASk [20:00]
assbot A Man for All Seasons - The Devil Speech - YouTube [20:00]
nubbins` hmm, i'm gonna add this to my list [20:01]
mircea_popescu not a bad move. [20:01]
mircea_popescu Cosmos this is like the 3rd thing you completely missed :) [20:01]
mircea_popescu he was asking you about altcoin, not about all that other crap. [20:02]
Cosmos the alt called altcoin itself? [20:02]
Cosmos yea its in my list [20:02]
mircea_popescu yea [20:02]
Cosmos lol, its quite meta-sounding [20:02]
mircea_popescu nubbins` http://projectplatypus.pbworks.com/w/page/19140696/A%20Man%20for%20All%20Seasons << actually there's script iyc [20:02]
assbot projectplatypus / A Man for All Seasons [20:02]
Cosmos didnt read about it [20:02]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [20:02]
Cosmos anyway, so you're claiming to be MPex CEO heh [20:02]
Cosmos I knew I'd seen that name somwhere else b4.. [20:03]
* nubbins` finds a comfortable chair [20:03]
Cosmos i mean, that you in this IRC, is the actual Mircea, thats super-googleable personality, you know [20:03]
mircea_popescu Cosmos im not claiming. im actually authed. [20:03]
Cosmos I'm inclined to believe so [20:03]
miaoux midnightmagic mikaeldice MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio_ [20:03]
mircea_popescu ;;ident mircea_popescu [20:03]
gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None [20:03]
Cosmos Nice [20:04]
Cosmos Now you just proved you have a nontrivial amount of ego [20:04]
moiety You really should be getting yourself authed too [20:04]
BingoBoingo Cosmos: The best altcoin is Altcoin (SHA-256 and not the heretic OMGWTFBBQHASH!!!) [20:04]
Cosmos That means you couldn't be given tons of power [20:04]
nubbins` "just" proved :D [20:04]
mircea_popescu nontrivial amt of ego ? [20:04]
mircea_popescu bitch please. i made that shit work. [20:05]
Cosmos Just teasing ya [20:05]
mircea_popescu i am the master of the ego. [20:05]
mircea_popescu and yeah, lol, i couldn't be GIVEN tons of power. [20:05]
mircea_popescu not anymore anyway. [20:05]
Cosmos I have no clue about technical things [20:05]
BingoBoingo http://therealaltcoin.org/ [20:05]
assbot The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again. [20:05]
Cosmos I'm a finance & philosophy type [20:05]
mircea_popescu Cosmos so what did you study then ? [20:05]
nubbins` german film [20:06]
Cosmos I quit school after failing biology [20:06]
mircea_popescu in philosophy ? [20:06]
Cosmos got into porn w/ nubbins' mom [20:06]
Cosmos & then, started trading [20:06]
gribble Error: "then," is not a valid command. [20:06]
mircea_popescu lol [20:06]
mircea_popescu !b 8 [20:06]
assbot Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YASEQP.txt ) [20:06]
Cosmos <3 [20:06]
mircea_popescu or w/e, mod can sort it out, whole convo's a bashfest [20:06]
nubbins` winning hearts & minds [20:06]
Cosmos Indeed, the 4chan way [20:06]
mircea_popescu Cosmos what exactly did you fail in biology ? [20:07]
nubbins` isn't it funny how everyone on irc is a "trader" and they all make money [20:07]
nubbins` what a coincidence [20:07]
Cosmos I had a fundamental passion for biotech, anatomy, biophysics, human enhancement [20:08]
mircea_popescu nubbins` im making the losses to cover for all of em [20:08]
mircea_popescu it's only fair, as i can afford it. [20:08]
Cosmos and still do of course [20:08]
nubbins` :D [20:08]
nubbins` a true hero [20:08]
mircea_popescu Cosmos but specifically, what'd you fail ? [20:08]
Cosmos And so, I mistakenly believed that my passion, which was, 'on paper' kinda [20:08]
Cosmos would automatically translate, to technical facility [20:08]
mircea_popescu like, "and then they asked me to describe the atp cycle and fuck i had no idea" [20:08]
Cosmos with lab work, etc [20:08]
Cosmos and it wasn't the case at all [20:08]
Cosmos I found out, I can't stand all this tedious experimenting & reporting & lab work man [20:08]
mircea_popescu so you're intellectually lazy and prefer to dream shit up rather than do anything. [20:08]
nubbins` i think he failed at applying to post-secondary [20:08]
Cosmos I'm supposed to be the boss [20:08]
Cosmos leading the scientist team [20:09]
Cosmos so I went into trading [20:09]
mircea_popescu that's the only reasonable path. [20:09]
nubbins` SO I WENT INTO TRADING [20:09]
Cosmos to be able, like Elon Musk the Great, to fund all these things [20:09]
mircea_popescu right. [20:09]
moiety so, you found your passion tedious? [20:09]
nubbins` moiety :D [20:09]
Cosmos yea nubbins, I've lost 13k in last 8 years learning the hard way, how to trade [20:09]
mircea_popescu maybe learning isn't the right word. [20:09]
punkman who has time for passion anyway, gotta watch tv [20:09]
Apocalyptic no, he just found out shit actually requires work [20:09]
* asciilifeform apprenticed to biologist in school. decided he doesn't like doing identical experiment 1,000 times. [20:10]
mircea_popescu moiety should i ask you how oft were you the unwitting girlfriend of such greatness or better hold my peace ? [20:10]
* nubbins` did three years of comp eng. decided he didn't like oscilloscopes :( [20:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're lucky you weren't into art. [20:10]
Cosmos rofl [20:10]
Cosmos tv [20:10]
Cosmos now you rly talk of the epitome of intellectual laze [20:11]
moiety sorry, i don't follow mircea_popescu [20:11]
nubbins` heard someone pronounce it "eppa-tome" recently [20:11]
asciilifeform ;;google datskovskiy telomerase [20:11]
gribble Induction of Telomerase Activity During Development of Human ...: [20:11]
Cosmos tv represents the Western garbage, the consumerism, the ads, the complacency, the mainstream conformism [20:11]
asciilifeform ^ i'm but a footnote. [20:11]
mircea_popescu moiety guy "falls in love", tells girl, she believes him, two years later he grows tired of the tediousness of it. [20:11]
mircea_popescu heartbreak results, in the lucky circumstances where the girl didn't go invest 9 months into the theory. [20:12]
Cosmos tv is the champion of average, excused mediocrity, the scourge of original thought & achievement [20:12]
mircea_popescu Cosmos is this a flatfile somehwere you're quoting ? [20:12]
Cosmos no thats the most awesome thing [20:12]
Cosmos I have a billion 'flatfile' notes as you say, recorded in HDD, but this I just pulled out of my brain [20:13]
mircea_popescu so you've slowly become one ?! [20:13]
punkman amazing markov [20:13]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [20:13]
Cosmos surprise myself sometimes (remember I am humble) [20:13]
mircea_popescu punkman did you write this and are nao trolling me ? [20:13]
punkman shhh don't ruin it [20:13]
Cosmos I find it amazing now that I think about it [20:13]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [20:13]
Cosmos that a CEO [20:14]
Cosmos w/ many projects & tons of wealth [20:14]
mircea_popescu i live in fear of this, btw, one of these days one of you assholes is going to script the noob and then i'll have to close down the whole operation ;/ [20:14]
Cosmos + a well-known cryptoblog [20:14]
Cosmos is here in IRC [20:14]
Cosmos gracing us w/ his wisdom [20:14]
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mircea_popescu Cosmos innit. [20:14]
nubbins` leave it [20:14]
mircea_popescu lol assbot [20:14]
nubbins` ;;echo tyvm assbot [20:14]
gribble tyvm assbot [20:14]
BingoBoingo !up assbot [20:14]
BingoBoingo !up Cosmos [20:15]
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mircea_popescu well it was fun while it lasted. [20:15]
mircea_popescu ;;echo !up bingoboingo [20:15]
gribble !up bingoboingo [20:15]
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BingoBoingo !b 658 [20:15]
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moiety ahh, never apparently. At the end, I was told there wasn't the initial "falling in love"... i was a convenient wallet/housekeeper/etc mircea_popescu [20:15]
Cosmos [13:14] <+Cosmos> [..] ..is here in IRC, [..] gracing us w/ his wisdom, ..his $1k/hr time.. [20:15]
mircea_popescu i've never loved baba gnoush as much as i do here. i'm up for it brakfast lunch and dinner, it's crazy. these folkjs eat nothing but meat. [20:15]
* moiety awaits the deserved "mug" forehead tattoo [20:15]
mircea_popescu moiety i think they just do phone number footsole tattoos now [20:16]
mircea_popescu so interested bystanders can just get the number [20:16]
Cosmos So I should like, make an acct on btc-assets to be perma-voiced here or just seduce mircea or what [20:16]
mircea_popescu you should seduce nubbins` [20:16]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [20:17]
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Cosmos that's a mathematical impossibility, i'm afraid [20:17]
nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8 [20:17]
assbot Hopes deleted. - YouTube [20:17]
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Cosmos even gribb hates me it appears [20:17]
BingoBoingo ;;echo !down Cosmos [20:18]
gribble !down Cosmos [20:18]
Cosmos does that work [20:19]
BingoBoingo So... It's looking like Argentina might start that nuclear program [20:19]
BingoBoingo !down Cosmos [20:19]
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BingoBoingo !up Cosmos yes [20:19]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo they lost ?! [20:19]
moiety Cosmos: indeed it does. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets heres a step by step. [20:19]
Cosmos asked cuz it didnt the first time [20:19]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [20:19]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Still tied 60 minutes in [20:19]
BingoBoingo !down Cosmos [20:20]
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mircea_popescu ok so this just in [20:20]
mircea_popescu corrientes, which is a major avenue, is COVERED in swat vans, fire trucks, miles of it from the center. [20:20]
mircea_popescu nobody is there. [20:20]
mircea_popescu nobody is in the shops, just the tvs going [20:20]
mircea_popescu i think these are countermeasures in case they lose ? [20:21]
nubbins` hahah [20:21]
BingoBoingo Probably [20:21]
nubbins` welcome to s.a. [20:21]
BingoBoingo !up Cosmos [20:21]
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moiety cosmos, you may note the difference in commands.. the first included an echo [20:21]
Cosmos Maybe I won't register after all, my great hopes for this chan getting non-negligibly crushed the minute I saw traditional sports talk [20:22]
mircea_popescu people that follow sports can't be given a ton of power either ? [20:22]
BingoBoingo ;;google site:thedrinkingrecord.com baseball [20:22]
gribble Baseball | Bingo Blog: ; An Overview of Betable Sports Part 1: Baseball | Bingo Blog: ; Real Baseball and "Sportsmanship" | Bingo Blog: [20:22]
moiety excuse us while we don't weep for the loss of your great hopes [20:22]
Cosmos ppl will see the 'echo' note, and immediate echo by gribble or whoever, so... the troll from it won't work..? dunno what other reason they'd echo for lol [20:23]
mircea_popescu lol rawr [20:23]
* moiety hasn't even linked a manul yet [20:23]
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BingoBoingo ;;echo ;;google WTF? [20:23]
gribble ;;google WTF? [20:23]
BingoBoingo OMG Gribble can't command itself! [20:23]
Cosmos I wonder if mod6 is omega6 (i know him( [20:24]
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BingoBoingo ;;8ball [20:24]
gribble No chance. [20:24]
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Cosmos anyway, pleased to have met you guys [20:24]
Cosmos I know it's not reciprocal [20:24]
Cosmos with good reason hee hee [20:25]
moiety ;;google define echo [20:25]
gribble Echo | Define Echo at Dictionary.com: ; Echo - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: ; Echo - definition of Echo by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: [20:25]
mircea_popescu echo is the girl that loved narcis [20:25]
Cosmos but why would bingo use the command if it doesnt do anything other than make gribble speak [20:25]
moiety Cosmos: like i said, it's all about presentation [20:26]
Cosmos it won't fool anyone lol [20:26]
mircea_popescu like all the big cats, bb likes to play [20:26]
BingoBoingo Cosmos: Who said I do things for reasons [20:26]
Cosmos makes sense [20:26]
Cosmos is this community altcoin haters or lovers [20:27]
Cosmos like, there's this huge, funny rivalry [20:27]
BingoBoingo Altcoin lovers, altcoin haters [20:27]
Cosmos 2 widely-chasm'd camps, hating each other [20:27]
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Cosmos it's heresy to talk of BTC in cryptocointalk, for instance. heresy to spend more than a couple words about alts, (they're all 'shtcoins') in bitcointalk, for instance [20:28]
moiety does any original like it's rip-offs? [20:28]
xmj benkay: around? [20:28]
BingoBoingo Argentin and Iran still tied. [20:28]
Cosmos yea they're just rip-offs cept for those that don't use btc tech at all..but, some still have good, relevant, unique applications, and quite a few have presented astronomical % gain opportunities, just cashout to BTC b4 the dump and keep multiplying it....... [20:29]
xmj!*@* added to ignore list. [20:30]
mircea_popescu [13:14] <+Cosmos> [..] ..is here in IRC, [..] gracing us w/ his wisdom, ..his $1k/hr time.. << some people are modest. [20:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: 'haxxing' article - if you want something other than lamers for the butterfly collection, cut apart those dead mobos & disks, rather than read server logs [20:31]
mircea_popescu i don't have a shop here [20:32]
mircea_popescu but they're in cold storage. [20:32]
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moiety and yet still would not exist had there been no preceeding bitcoin Cosmos [20:32]
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mircea_popescu maybe im the one that least hates alts [20:33]
Cosmos @mircea No, that was after bingo muted me randomly, so I copied the stuff I'd pasted afterwards, that didnt appear here, this whole statement of mine was in reference to YOU mircea not me obviously lol [20:33]
* asciilifeform doesn't hate alts but it bored of folks who s/bitcoin/foocoin [20:33]
asciilifeform *is [20:33]
BingoBoingo !down Cosmos [20:34]
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mircea_popescu Cosmos i am aware. [20:34]
BingoBoingo !up Cosmos [20:34]
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Cosmos lol this guy, like clockwork [20:34]
Cosmos hm, sry for ruining your joke lol mircea [20:34]
Cosmos your irony* [20:34]
BingoBoingo How long is one of these football games anyway? [20:35]
Cosmos im an IRC newb, it's /msg person's name to PM ppl right..? [20:35]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo 90 mins, then they start shooting straight at the goalposts [20:35]
BingoBoingo Well it is still tied at 77 minutes in [20:36]
mircea_popescu actually nm that. i think ties are allowed in this game. [20:36]
BingoBoingo Yeah, there have been so many ties [20:36]
moiety i need to run out for prarcetamol, back in 5 [20:37]
moiety or paracetamol, whicever helps with pain [20:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.0687 = 6.87 BTC [+] [20:37]
asciilifeform decimation: russia/native cpu << see earlier 'elbrus.' wake me up when they cough up own os, rather than cribbing. [20:38]
mircea_popescu the purring one for you, prrolly [20:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ianal, but it'd seem cribbing is better. rather than writing from scratch and inventing a new mistakes-space, they just take out some mistakes of a well documenterd space [20:39]
asciilifeform lol [20:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00080151 = 17.4729 BTC [-] {3} [20:39]
asciilifeform 'take out mistakes' >> ssl [20:40]
asciilifeform and some mistakes (the need for a compiler) aren't so easy to take out. [20:40]
mircea_popescu this is true. [20:40]
asciilifeform see: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/498 [20:41]
assbot Embedded in Academia : Software Bugs and Scientific Progress [20:41]
BingoBoingo %ticker [20:42]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 222 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A [20:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I guess you'll get to find out what the swat vans are for soon [20:43]
mircea_popescu iran scored ? [20:43]
BingoBoingo Isn't a tie as bad as losing? [20:44]
mircea_popescu nope [20:45]
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BingoBoingo Ah [20:45]
BingoBoingo Well, still no score [20:45]
mircea_popescu their scoring is byzantine, but! i think they getrematches and whatnot [20:45]
* asciilifeform started crackpot career by reading at&t unix as described in 'lions book' and setting out to 'take out mistakes' - then noticed that result is... empty space [20:46]
mircea_popescu lol [20:46]
Cosmos worst thing is as soon as this Cup fest is over [20:46]
BingoBoingo Handegg Season [20:46]
Cosmos we'll be beset w/ another mainstreamer flood, from Jul 4th Independence [20:47]
mircea_popescu score. [20:49]
mircea_popescu i can tell [20:49]
mthreat haha [20:49]
mthreat neighbors [20:49]
mircea_popescu BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER SPEAK IN MY FUCKING ROOM [20:49]
mthreat damn my stream [20:49]
mthreat is lagged [20:49]
mircea_popescu lol [20:49]
BingoBoingo Yeah [20:49]
mircea_popescu get real interwebs mthreat :D [20:49]
mthreat in argentina? heh [20:49]
mircea_popescu mthreat i have it [20:49]
mthreat which provider [20:50]
mircea_popescu all of them. [20:50]
mthreat all? [20:50]
mircea_popescu (not even kidding, i got the top package of everyone, loadbalancing it) [20:50]
mthreat fucking A [20:50]
mircea_popescu they don't go out atthe same time, either. [20:51]
BingoBoingo !b 9 [20:51]
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mthreat do you need that much bandwidth, or more for reliability? [20:51]
Cosmos do you like CFD's [20:51]
mircea_popescu reliability. but bw is a nice throw-in [20:52]
asciilifeform re: 'take out mistakes': obligatory: http://pastebin.com/rG1TxJt2 [20:52]
mircea_popescu plus, girls like the half hour movie torrent time [20:52]
assbot The Spittoon - Pastebin.com [20:52]
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Cosmos I brought entertainment & then I faded down to a speck of nothing [20:54]
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BingoBoingo !b 1 [20:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0687 = 0.8244 BTC [+] [20:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00080201 = 7.6993 BTC [+] [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00079949 = 3.6777 BTC [-] {2} [21:08]
moiety /me got distracted by some flowers in need of tlc [21:08]
moiety well that worked [21:08]
moiety i see the loss of BB was too much for cosmos [21:08]
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mircea_popescu well maybe he gets through his reading [21:15]
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penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/21/tell-the-grand-inquisitor-theres-no-fucking-bitcoin-taint/ [21:21]
moiety not sure i share your optimism mircea_popescu [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00080173 = 9.8613 BTC [+] [21:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00079946 = 8.8444 BTC [-] {2} [21:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 887 @ 0.00079812 = 0.7079 BTC [-] [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00079761 = 3.9083 BTC [-] [21:41]
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mircea_popescu !up grahvity [21:42]
-assbot- You voiced grahvity for 30 minutes. [21:42]
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mthreat googlebot's already crawling search.ba [21:44]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo [21:45]
assbot Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - YouTube [21:45]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/a-story-of-manscarves/ [21:56]
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mircea_popescu re http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725987 (the entire plain words) conundrum, bitcoinpete got me the best in for the best example known to man. http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/21/tell-the-grand-inquisitor-theres-no-fucking-bitcoin-taint/#comment-791 [22:05]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:05]
assbot Tell The Grand Inquisitor There’s No Fucking Bitcoin Taint. | When Bitcoin Met Pete [22:05]
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mircea_popescu and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725970 is like cosmos' earlier adventure in detail. [22:07]
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mircea_popescu epic fucking quote that. [22:08]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [22:26]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [22:26]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [22:26]
moiety wb [22:26]
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mircea_popescu motherfucker. power surge during write operation -> destroyed boot. [22:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: still no civilized power gizmos? [22:27]
mircea_popescu apparently mains unfiltered is not good here. [22:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform im putting a whole array in, what's to do. [22:27]
punkman ;;ident [22:27]
gribble Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is not identified. [22:27]
* asciilifeform got a dual-converting ups as a gift from phriend not long ago. no more stabilizer 'bzzzzzz' [22:27]
punkman hmm? [22:28]
mircea_popescu by now i'm drastically past the threshold of doorman telling me apart "you know i've never seen so much computer equipment since i work here" [22:28]
mircea_popescu something i had hoped to avoid [22:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'liebert gxt2.' recommended. [22:29]
mircea_popescu aite. [22:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform provider sez discontinued. [22:30]
asciilifeform this kind of gizmo works by running rectifier (mains to 48v dc) at all times, connected to cell bank, and on the exit, inverter (48v dc to local mains voltage ac) likewise at all times [22:30]
mircea_popescu girl on cam "and this is my bedroom slash office" [22:30]
mircea_popescu ahem. [22:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'gxt3' is still sold. and of course there's a dozen or so other vendors who sell similar units. [22:31]
penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/titan-physical-bitcoin-review-silver/ [22:35]
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mircea_popescu On and off, I’ve had the urge to acquire physical Bitcoin coins to give to family and invest/collect them for myself. I have never purchased any sort of collectible coin before, nor have I ever purchased precious metals. << weird what btc does to people. [22:36]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you only have surges, never dips, ferroresonant gizmo would also work. but they're loud. [22:37]
mircea_popescu why assume. [22:37]
mircea_popescu The BitPay prompt for payment seems awkwardly designed to me, particularly in that the text version of the payment address is very tiny. << I heard this in the form of "wow, they're really trying to stop you from copying pasting it huh". no idea wtf they;'d be thinking [22:39]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you buy this or similar unit, make sure it eats 220v. these, unlike pc power supply, aren't omnivorous. [22:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00080396 = 5.1051 BTC [+] [22:44]
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ThickAsThieves yep, you read it how i felt it [22:45]
ThickAsThieves it's not my first time using bitpay either, i think the address used to be bigger [22:46]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no i meant i actually heard someone else complain [22:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00080396 = 10.4113 BTC [+] [22:46]
ThickAsThieves ah [22:47]
mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/The_new_woman--wash_day.png << genderbendin' in 1910 [22:47]
mircea_popescu by underwood&underwood [22:47]
ThickAsThieves add me to the list then [22:47]
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mircea_popescu btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? [22:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0670089 = 0.7371 BTC [-] {3} [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00080396 = 8.2004 BTC [+] {2} [23:13]
benkay decimation: now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? <<< here's the thing : real estate agents are certified, and have to be bondend in many places, and have to follow best practices, and can and are put to the coals ifthey do not. [23:14]
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benkay reminds me of a great hustle a neighbor got put through recently [23:14]
benkay house immediately downhill from the 'rents went on sale for 900k, reasoning being "well it was built by and inhabited by Dr. Hawthorne of this grand street a few blocks over who also built the insanitarium at the top of said street which is now a seminary" [23:15]
benkay the people doing the sale failed to do it on their own at 900k, so this vulture swooped in, started ratcheting the price down and as all the buyers trickled in said something along the lines of "I know that this isn't really what you're looking for, but how about I give you a call sometime next week and I'll show you some houses that might fit your budget and expectations a little bit better". [23:16]
benkay two months later, the house has been dragged down from 900k to 700k, and that broker has straight ghosted with all the leads she generated via excellent hustle. [23:16]
benkay so while best practices are a thing and brokers do get put to the coals, as with all regulated things only the dumb and most obviously rule-breaky are going to get their feet torched. i can't imagine it being any other way with programmering - the smart ones will shift the blame to the dumb ones, who will take the fall. age old story. [23:17]
benkay and what is this "not liable for errors" crap y'all are spouting? i have to fight for that clause in every contract I take on. [23:18]
benkay i have no idea what rat fuck of code i'm taking on, and i'm sure as hell not taking responsibility for your untested ball of hair falling over because this private method is getting called by your SUPER IMPORTANT WEEKLY REPORTs. [23:19]
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benkay Behold, http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/ // linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work [23:25]
assbot #bitcoin-assets search [23:25]
benkay ;;rate mthreat 1 [23:25]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [23:25]
benkay oh i do do i [23:25]
benkay ;;rate mthreat 1 [23:26]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. [23:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00080471 = 10.4612 BTC [+] [23:28]
mircea_popescu benkay> two months later, the house has been dragged down from 900k to 700k, and that broker has straight ghosted with all the leads she generated via excellent hustle. << dumbass approach imo, but hey [23:30]
mircea_popescu but that aside, the openssl recent string of bugs WOULD have been of the coal kind [23:31]
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mircea_popescu which is exactly how it was argued for software responsibility immunity in the 80s : that ALL software failures are clearly of a coal-abl etype, and so not granting immunity would make software "impossible" [23:31]
benkay nah, torch anyone who implemented it in their own codebasen. no crime in releasing shit to the world, only a crime to put that shit in your cliquot [23:32]
mircea_popescu rms and co really meant "bad software" but just said "software", and "plain language" being what it is, who's to know the difference. [23:32]
mircea_popescu as if bitcoin'd suffer from a complete ban on all the tard venues, or computers from a complete disappearance of bad software [23:32]
mircea_popescu benkay methinks you might have to brush up on corp law :) [23:32]
benkay indubitably. [23:32]
mircea_popescu nobody'd put it in without specific representations and certifications [23:32]
mircea_popescu an' warranties an' indemnities [23:33]
mircea_popescu anyway, i wish i recall who wrote the example with the locks, in favour of software tort immunity [23:34]
mircea_popescu it went something like, "if a lock fails that lock can be replaced, but if software failed ALL a company's products fail at the same time so there's nobody to absorb the costs" [23:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0684996 = 0.685 BTC [+] {2} [23:34]
mircea_popescu as if this were any kind of argument. as if crops don't fail exactly the same way. etc [23:34]
benkay i'm way out of my domain on this, but who gets the spike? devs on openssl and bitcoind > 0.6? [23:37]
mircea_popescu bitcoin 9.0, again. [23:37]
benkay the people who wrote PHP's rand? [23:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0686 = 0.686 BTC [+] [23:37]
mircea_popescu hearn didn't just fuck the db and get bitcoin forket [23:37]
mircea_popescu he also merged heartbleed into the codebase. [23:37]
mircea_popescu all in the name of the "needed" pki, which was never needed by us, it was needed by nsa. [23:38]
benkay does this go for all open source mistakes? [23:38]
mircea_popescu the notion that derps imagining themselves involved and part of and etc still treat hearn as anything but vomit behind a bar is perhaps the best argument against democracy. [23:39]
mircea_popescu well there's mistakes and there's "mistakes" [23:39]
mircea_popescu little girl taking a drink from suspicious man in overcoat is not making a mistake [23:39]
mircea_popescu is simply enacting a death wish. [23:39]
benkay but he's not wearing an overcoat, he's got a nice pair of slacks and a collared tee, and everyone except the weirdos in the corner are drinking with him. [23:42]
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mircea_popescu right. and hearn isn't 12. [23:43]
mircea_popescu fancy that, adult world has like two or even three tiers of complexity on top of what you find in coloring books. [23:43]
benkay i thought hearn was handing out potions in this example. [23:43]
mircea_popescu heh. notrly. he's just a whore. [23:44]
benkay hm [23:44]
mircea_popescu infectious, of course, but nothing much than a tool of contagion. [23:44]
benkay ;;later tell xmj i am now [23:44]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:44]
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decimation re: 48v DC << yeah most higher end servers can be ordered with 48v DC power supplies. works best with a rack-sized 48 v lead-acid battery [23:55]
decimation benkay: re: liability << yeah, but I assume you aren't shipping code for anonymous users, I assume you are writing some kind of support contract [23:59]
decimation My point about lack of liability has to do with why microsoft hasn't gotten sued for writing crapware that certainly has done demonstrable harm to users [23:59]
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