Forum logs for 21 Apr 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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decimation	ascii_on_tour: http://recode.net/2015/04/20/exclusive-qualcomm-to-use-samsungs-foundries-for-its-next-high-end-chip/ < seems as though samsung is beating qualcomm in this round of silicon wars	[00:28]
assbot	Qualcomm to Tap Samsung’s Foundries for Next High-End Chip \| Re/code ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hq352o )	[00:28]
decimation	qualcomm being the designated loser, given it has no fab of its own	[00:28]
decimation	according to this report, qualcomm's plan is to sell samsung on using qualcom designs in samsung phones - when the chips are fabbed in samsung's own 14nm chip plant	[00:30]
decimation	I can't imagine what kind of 'business logic' would go behind such a decision on samsung's part, other than "let's keep the little derps alive to keep usg off our back"	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	bizarre	[00:31]
decimation	'hey I see you are building whole piles of homes with your own people and your own designs, would you pay me to tell you how to build a different design?'	[00:33]
BingoBoingo	More from the learn to aim department http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/three-held-after-rolling-gun-battle-in-st-louis-that/article_da136ead-2f31-51c1-9bf2-69684c742284.html	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	kinda what an architect does	[00:34]
decimation	right, but an architect trying to sell designs to other architects	[00:35]
decimation	I mean, maybe he can get by with it, but how much royalty can he really demand?	[00:35]
decimation	it isn't the gold mine that qualcomm ran while CDMA was a new thing that was trying to eat gsm	[00:36]
decimation	BingoBoingo: isn't shooting over I-70 too close to 'civilian territory' for the local cops to tolerate?	[00:37]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Depends on what stretch. If "Rolling Gun Battle on I-44" happens a third time though that means its a meme	[00:38]
decimation	if you really wanted to shoot somebody, why wouldn't you wait until they dismount? seems to me that 'rolling battles' of whatever kind serve more as a fulfillment of a fantasy than an actual tactic	[00:40]
BingoBoingo	Anyway, one you get past downtown, its ghettos on either side of I-70	[00:40]
BingoBoingo	decimation: It's fatlogic and action movies probably fueling it	[00:40]
[]bot	Bet created: " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/	[00:42]
decimation	BingoBoingo: if you have to drive through st. louis on i-70, what's the safest bypass?	[00:42]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Well I-270	[00:42]
decimation	is that surrounded by ghetto too?	[00:43]
BingoBoingo	It's a loop that goes through St Louis county at the edges. Connects to the Illinois side at north and South endpoints	[00:43]
[]bot	Bet created: "BTC to top $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/1136/	[00:44]
BingoBoingo	And if you actually need to go through the city, I-64 is a good east-west line that meets I-70 at the western edge of St Charles county (Traffic can be hell though on I-64)	[00:44]
decimation	yeah I guess I took that last time I drove though, it wouldn't make sense to go through downtown unless you wanted to stop at the arch and get stuck halfway up	[00:44]
BingoBoingo	Well there's other stuff, the stadiums some restaurants.	[00:45]
BingoBoingo	I-64 is the main route through the city	[00:45]
BingoBoingo	I-70 is mostly airport bullshit or unfortunate commuters	[00:46]
BingoBoingo	Downtown also has the nice casino	[00:48]
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decimation	standing next to the arch and looking across the mississippi at east st. louis is depressing as hell	[00:49]
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BingoBoingo	Going from Mizzou back to Illinois in the Afternoon I'd usually take I-70 to I-64 at I-64's endpoint and cross the river. Smooth drive, gridlock to laugh at headed the other way.	[00:49]
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BingoBoingo	East St. Louis isn't so bad on the ground	[00:50]
BingoBoingo	!up gaw_gm	[00:50]
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decimation	from the aerial photos it looks like most of it has been razed	[00:50]
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BingoBoingo	It's mostly the other town around East st louis that are really bad. East Saint city limits proper... not too bad	[00:50]
BingoBoingo	!up gaw_gm	[00:51]
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BingoBoingo	But, by not so bad I mean there's a handful of places I'd think about getting lunch, on a sunny day, in East st louis. Only 1 in North St Louis	[00:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00032977 = 4.4354 BTC [+]	[00:54]
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BingoBoingo	Brooklyn Illinois, on the east side, you not drive through. Washingon part, would not go anywhere other than the hustler club.	[00:54]
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decimation	collinsville is nice though right?	[00:55]
BingoBoingo	Parts of Collinsville.	[00:55]
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williamdunne	miaviator: who were you again?	[00:56]
williamdunne	gaw_gm	[00:56]
BingoBoingo	Edwardsville is still nice, Belleville is a lost cause.	[00:56]
BingoBoingo	!up gaw_gm	[00:56]
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gaw_gm	Sorry, nick linking	[00:57]
williamdunne	Oops, forgot to up them	[00:57]
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miaviator	All done	[00:57]
williamdunne	miaviator: So who were you at GAW and what cock-ups were you specifically responsible for?	[00:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 109 @ 0.01575229 = 1.717 BTC [-] {3}	[00:57]
miaviator	ROFL williamdunne	[00:58]
miaviator	I was GM and Interim CEO	[00:58]
williamdunne	miaviator: Oh god, of the whole group or..?	[00:58]
miaviator	williamdunne: Interim CEO of the whole conglomerate	[00:59]
miaviator	all six effed up companies	[00:59]
miaviator	GM of Gaw Miners.	[00:59]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to top $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/1136/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,987.	[00:59]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,982.	[00:59]
williamdunne	miaviator: Ok, have you repented your sins publicly since the fact?	[00:59]
miaviator	williamdunne: LOL	[01:00]
williamdunne	(I assume it would contain the answers to most of my follow up questions)	[01:00]
miaviator	I think the company planning a full scale press release accusing me of theft, federal crime and extortion speaks volumes.	[01:01]
miaviator	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg11112022#msg11112022	[01:01]
assbot	GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hq8dn4 )	[01:01]
williamdunne	miaviator: Well if they do hang it on your wall, but it doesn't really answer the question	[01:02]
williamdunne	I can only imagine that Bingo and Cazalla will be hanging the GAW list on their walls	[01:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00033383 = 12.8858 BTC [+] {2}	[01:02]
miaviator	williamdunne: https://archive.today/eNRuq	[01:03]
assbot	I am Jonah Dorman, the former, (interim) CEO of the GAW Conglomerate ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hq8B52 )	[01:03]
miaviator	williamdunne: I never had any evidence of anything and wasn't involved in any of the fraud.	[01:04]
miaviator	Hell I wasn't 100% certain until the latest email leak. And i was digging from the inside.	[01:04]
BingoBoingo	miaviator: Well a good place to start the repentance train would be http://www.cilice.co.uk/cilice/hand-crafted-copper-1-25-mm-gauge-full-leg-cilice.html	[01:04]
assbot	Hand crafted copper 1.25 mm gauge full leg cilice - Buy Cilice ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hq8GWt )	[01:04]
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williamdunne	DanielPBarron is a priest, he can help you repent also	[01:05]
miaviator	Kinky	[01:05]
miaviator	williamdunne: what country are you in?	[01:05]
williamdunne	miaviator: Well, as far as evidence goes, less concerned. But I'm sure some of the Derps who have (hopefully) learned lessons from this would appreciate a public apology (just waiting for the link to load)	[01:06]
williamdunne	miaviator: UK	[01:06]
miaviator	What religion if you don't mind my asking? The Cilice is not something brought up often.	[01:07]
williamdunne	La Serenissima	[01:08]
mats	what is going on in here	[01:08]
miaviator	Nothing.	[01:08]
miaviator	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Serenissima	[01:08]
BingoBoingo	miaviator: It's a catholic thing. I'm not of that persuasion, but after that thing Josh hooked you into probably no reason for you to be picky about how you mortify the flesh.	[01:08]
williamdunne	miaviator: I'm not religious, I meant repent as if in apologize for your actions publicly	[01:08]
assbot	La Serenissima - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hq9drg )	[01:08]
miaviator	WTF?	[01:09]
miaviator	BingoBoingo: That makes sense.	[01:09]
BingoBoingo	;google the most serene republic of venice	[01:09]
BingoBoingo	;;google the most serene republic of venice	[01:09]
gribble	Republic of Venice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Most Serene Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; History of the Republic of Venice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:	[01:09]
miaviator	Orthodox catholic I would presume for the Cilice	[01:09]
decimation	BingoBoingo: catholics are weird. that heart and cross shaped 'bed of nails' is creepy	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	mats nfi.	[01:10]
BingoBoingo	mats: Oh, just some management staff from Gaw came by to hang out	[01:10]
miaviator	Former.	[01:11]
BingoBoingo	decimation: I always thought their pederasty was weirder	[01:12]
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williamdunne	What I can't stop wondering is why Josh is still in the US	[01:14]
miaviator	williamdunne: Why would you think that?	[01:16]
miaviator	He has stated in 3 channels over 5 times that he is in a specific city in vermont.	[01:16]
miaviator	He has never before stated his location so much.	[01:16]
williamdunne	miaviator: Apparently I am deaf	[01:16]
williamdunne	miaviator: Vermont doesn't seem like a great choice either, better though	[01:17]
miaviator	Somehow that seams to indicate a desperate attempt at misdirection.	[01:17]
miaviator	williamdunne: Optima Computers	[01:17]
miaviator	One of his previous companies is located in brattlewhateverborough	[01:17]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 96(Y):4(N) by coin, 96(Y):4(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,957.	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/93beef5a9a8fbf126e15defc943cdc07/tumblr_ndw8teOwpw1tpse54o1_500.gif	[01:27]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HqbR0j )	[01:27]
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williamdunne	!up miaviator	[01:27]
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williamdunne	!up recon_eric	[07:54]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105349 << no fucking way dude, from san telmo to moreno it's like 50km.	[07:57]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 05:15:01; *: ascii_lander ate a bottle of booze for dinner with ben_vulpes and walked more or less across whole diameter of b-a	[07:57]
mircea_popescu	from tigre to whatever, peron it's also like 40	[07:57]
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mircea_popescu	cazalla yo	[07:59]
cazalla	evening	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	this gaw wikileaks thing is pretty lulzy.	[08:04]
mircea_popescu	or, to quote tiffany, "Who cares if the security let u do this it doesn't mean u should have done it"	[08:05]
mircea_popescu	in any case one's left wondering if preet's now gonna look into stuff like "Discussing money that Garza alleged Stuart Fraser needed to keep out of sight"	[08:07]
mircea_popescu	why exactly is cantor fitzgerald "keeping money out of sight", and whose sight exactly ?	[08:08]
cazalla	interesting that	[08:08]
mircea_popescu	" The amount is 150k.	[08:08]
mircea_popescu	Please characterize it as a loan to him.	[08:08]
mircea_popescu	Thank you for your attention and discretion. And yes, even millionaires borrow money from each other"	[08:08]
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mircea_popescu	lolk.	[08:09]
mircea_popescu	"Here is what I would like:	[08:11]
mircea_popescu	– 10k per month investment paid to Geniuses at Work Corporation for 24 months (to pay myself with)."	[08:11]
mircea_popescu	these millionaires...	[08:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.0003103 = 10.0848 BTC [-]	[08:19]
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mod6	made it to atl	[08:25]
mod6	only a small leg to msp left. whew	[08:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17814 @ 0.00031354 = 5.5854 BTC [+]	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	o yo mod6	[08:33]
mod6	hi Mr. P!	[08:36]
mod6	just sitting here at the gate. few more hours, then i can fianlly sleep	[08:36]
mircea_popescu	hehe. im just sitting here signing keys	[08:37]
mod6	ahh cool!	[08:37]
mod6	customs derp: you were there for 5 days?	[08:38]
mod6	me: yup	[08:38]
mod6	him: and youre going to work right now??	[08:38]
mod6	me: yes.	[08:38]
mod6	him: wjat do you do?	[08:38]
mod6	me: software stuff	[08:39]
mod6	him: what languages do you play with?	[08:39]
mod6	me: javascript	[08:39]
mod6	him: ah, cool. i used to program in cobol.	[08:39]
mod6	leeeel	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	heh	[08:41]
mod6	maybe it just /seemed/ funny at 5am	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	for the record, key signing works as follows : $ gpg --edit-key --fingerprint	[08:45]
mircea_popescu	then it puts out a prompt, you say sign	[08:45]
mircea_popescu	then it shows you the fingerprint, make sure it's the right one, confirm	[08:45]
mircea_popescu	and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key where keyid you just copy from the line above.	[08:46]
mod6	good to note	[08:46]
mircea_popescu	certserver.pgp.com seems dead (gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error)	[08:47]
mircea_popescu	actually i suppose this could be a job for a young fellow not afraid of work : inherit phuctor and build a pgp keyserver around it.	[08:48]
mod6	ah, that'd be neat	[08:50]
mod6	ok time to board. ttyl!	[08:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4667 @ 0.0003103 = 1.4482 BTC [-]	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	ahaha all this derpage.	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	all these marginal idiots that never did anything misrepresenting themselves as connected and relevant and "renowned in the community",	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	it's almost like watching the derpy seduction kids go.	[09:00]
mats	mircea_popescu: that sounds interesting	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	mats gpg is eventually going to get rewritten anyway, so building some expertise is a good use of time.	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform btw ever got around to starting the crunch on those keys ?	[09:03]
mats	you got a spec?	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	no, but you can have one by the end of the week, how about that ?	[09:08]
mats	i look forward to it	[09:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6136 @ 0.00031354 = 1.9239 BTC [+]	[09:12]
davout	ohai	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	mats since i had a moment : http://trilema.com/2015/pgp-keyserver/	[09:38]
assbot	Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PaEscH )	[09:38]
davout	mircea_popescu: now i want to make my own version of that yo soy maria tune	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	should give you a general idea. may change till fri.	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	davout :D	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform & everyone interested ^ rfc on this whole thread.	[09:39]
davout	if i sing it i'll have to be mario from nintendo tho	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:40]
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davout	so i have been sifting through the reference bitcoin implementation source code	[09:45]
davout	looks like my contribution is going to be snipping away retarded stuff we don't care about	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	unlike everyone else's	[09:47]
davout	no, in the sense that i probably won't be able to add for a while, until i'm comfortable enough with the whole thing	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	unlike everyone else.	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	:D	[09:48]
davout	blergh	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[09:48]
davout	it's going to feel good blasting the "accounts" feature with piss	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	oyeah	[09:49]
davout	i'd also like to remove all the "if isTestnet" bullshit, and make the genesis block configurable, with the default bitcoin genesis block a hardcoded default	[09:50]
mircea_popescu	afaik that was where the foundation was leaning too	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	gotta wait for ben to emerge from his barrel of malbec	[09:51]
davout	lol	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2015/yo-soy-la-vista-de-buenos-ayres-soy-yo/ << btw kakobrekla , dat 4th pic...	[10:01]
assbot	Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OaJngy )	[10:01]
mircea_popescu	"Free Lance Event Coordinator" wtf is that ?	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	"Current Geniuses at Work Corp Previous Victory Medical, 3way events Education Austin Community College" well i'll be damned if that's not exactly a hooker profile. 3way events, srsly ?	[10:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8612 @ 0.00031394 = 2.7037 BTC [+]	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	"On the 19th of December 2014, Tokay provides Garza with the required parameters of his employment including a two year contract, $20,000 a month salary, 4 weeks vacation, bonus and stock options, relocation expenses, an apartment paid for for 6 months, green card visa assistance and legal fees as well as a company car. Garza informs Tokay that because GAW Miners is a startup, salary is capped at 90k."	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	HAHAHAHA	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	fucking hell wut is this.	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	nigglets now get 250k a year and crimpage in style ? what, flipping burgers like every other babu bhat waiting for green card aplications is too good for this tokay ?	[10:13]
davout	who's that tokay dude?	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	nobody but apparently also napoleon intermittently.	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	" Mate is a young entrepreneur. He runs the company on a daily basis. He travels to the conferences and arranges the miner hardware and other ..."	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	whatever, 15 an hour gofer/best grip.	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	"Máté Tokay Hungarian wakeboard team. When you see him on the site, seems so shy, so mostly people don’t know him so much like other riders, but if you research more about him, than you will se some pretty good results in his history of wakeboarding."	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	"I hadn't considered the Peercoin and recently the StartCoin noise we have made…We run the risk of not being taken seriously."	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha bwahahah omfg	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	the RISK ?	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	what fucking risk. i run the risk of having a drink brb.	[10:27]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_lander	[10:28]
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chetty	good morning ascii_lander	[10:29]
ascii_lander	good morning chetty!	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	cazalla why are you linking random http://www.filedropper.com/gawtar instead of locally hosting ?	[10:30]
assbot	GAW.tar.gz :: Free File Hosting - File Dropper: File Host for Mp3, Videos, Music, Documents. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IBTx2T )	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	oh footnote lol. well, fixed nao ?	[10:31]
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ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105459 << wat	[10:34]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 10:19:46; Vexual: shit alf they jut put ur cunt sniffer on tv foor malaria	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	i dunno they keep voicing him	[10:36]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: we did more or less the whole of light-blue tube line 'a'	[10:37]
ascii_lander	and some side streets	[10:37]
ascii_lander	can't even recall why	[10:38]
mircea_popescu	from plaza de mayo to san pedrito ?	[10:38]
ascii_lander	opposite dir	[10:38]
ascii_lander	from hell knows where to plaza de mayo	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	aha. that's like 10 km	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	hm. you prolly took it from miserere ? like 4 ?	[10:40]
*	ascii_lander will have to prod ben_vulpes when he awakens. he had the original coordinates for the cab that put us in the mongolia we started from	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	you brought back any horses/fillies from that mongolia ?	[10:42]
ascii_lander	nein	[10:42]
ascii_lander	iirc we didnt even eat, l0l	[10:43]
ascii_lander	(started with bottle, and after that there was a kind of other logic.)	[10:44]
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*	mircea_popescu pictures the two trying to open hotel with cigar	[10:44]
ascii_lander	with magic.	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i'm fixing auden's poem atm	[10:45]
ascii_lander	the progre?	[10:45]
ascii_lander	did we ever do 'programmer does what prgmogres can, feats quite impossible for man...	[10:46]
ascii_lander	'	[10:46]
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mircea_popescu	no, the clocks.	[10:47]
ascii_lander	http://homepages.wmich.edu/~cooneys/poems/auden.stop.html << it?	[10:48]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1J6dmTs )	[10:48]
mircea_popescu	the very same	[10:48]
*	ascii_lander read mircea_popescu pgp rfc in half-awake state and almost released brain from nose until realized that it is for -keyserver- and not a pgptron (e.g. gpg) per se	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	"mp has apparently gone insane. no, wait, how about read this thing again first."	[10:50]
chetty	"mp has apparently gone insane.// this would be new??	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	well now that all depends	[10:58]
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chetty	!up ascii_lander	[11:00]
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ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105568 << davout appears ready to rumble	[11:00]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 12:45:48; davout: i'd also like to remove all the "if isTestnet" bullshit, and make the genesis block configurable, with the default bitcoin genesis block a hardcoded default	[11:00]
ascii_lander	^ though seed config probably oughta happen first, imho	[11:00]
ascii_lander	the current mechanism for it is dangerously - explosively - retarded	[11:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00031394 = 7.5346 BTC [+]	[11:04]
ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105544 << will start throwing the mega-butterflycollection in there as soon as i park the thing on that spiffy new box.	[11:08]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 11:58:35; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw ever got around to starting the crunch on those keys ?	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[11:08]
ascii_lander	after return to mordor.	[11:08]
ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105577 << wat	[11:11]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 13:07:15; mircea_popescu: "On the 19th of December 2014, Tokay provides Garza with the required parameters of his employment including a two year contract, $20,000 a month salary, 4 weeks vacation, bonus and stock options, relocation expenses, an apartment paid for for 6 months, green card visa assistance and legal fees as well as a company car. Garza informs Tokay that because GAW Miners is a startup, salary	[11:11]
*	ascii_lander pops	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	heh	[11:11]
assbot	ФСКН: спайсы-убийцы используют для организации "цветных революций" \| РИА Новости ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIDejz )	[11:16]
ascii_lander	l0l 'bath salt'	[11:16]
ascii_lander	''"Ð’ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¾ÑˆÐ»Ð¾Ð¼ Ð³Ð¾Ð´Ñƒ Ð¼Ñ‹ ÑÑ‚Ð¾Ð»ÐºÐ½ÑƒÐ»Ð¸ÑÑŒ ÑÂ Ñ„ÐµÐ½Ð¾Ð¼ÐµÐ½Ð¾Ð¼, ÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð´Ð° Ð¸Ð·Ð²ÐµÑÑ‚Ð½Ñ‹Ð¹ ÑÐ¸Ð½Ñ‚ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‡ÐµÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ Ð½Ð°Ñ€ÐºÐ¾Ñ‚Ð¸Ðº Ð±Ñ‹Ð» Ð¿Ð¾Ð¿Ð¾Ð»Ð½ÐµÐ½ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ð¼ Ñ€Ð°Ð´Ð¸ÐºÐ°Ð»Ð¾Ð¼ Ñ„Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€ÑÐ¾Ð´ÐµÑ€Ð¶Ð°Ñ‰ÐµÐ¹ Ð³Ñ€ÑƒÐ¿Ð¿Ñ‹ Ð¸Â Ð½Ð°Ñ€ÐºÐ¾Ñ‚Ð¸Ñ‡ÐµÑÐºÐ¾Ðµ Ð²ÐµÑ‰ÐµÑÑ‚Ð²Ð¾ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸Ð¾Ð±Ñ€ÐµÐ»Ð¾ ÐºÐ°Ñ‡ÐµÑÑ‚Ð²Ð¾ Ð±Ð¾ÐµÐ²Ð¾Ð³Ð¾ Ð¾Ñ‚Ñ€Ð°Ð²Ð»ÑÑŽÑ‰ÐµÐ³Ð¾ Ð²ÐµÑ‰ÐµÑÑ‚Ð²Ð°, Ñ‡Ñ‚Ð¾ Ð²Ñ‹Ð·Ð²Ð°Ð»Ð¾ ÑÐ¿Ð¸Ð´ÐµÐ¼Ð¸ÑŽ ÑÐ¼ÐµÑ€Ñ‚ÐµÐ	[11:17]
ascii_lander	'in the past year we encountered a phenomenon where a well-known synthetic dope was augmented with a new radical, a fluoride group, and the dope acquired the qualities of a chemical warfare compound, which caused an epidemic of deaths (in ru.), said ivanov.'	[11:18]
ascii_lander	rest of the thing is reasonable though	[11:19]
ascii_lander	alleges that dopeheads were over-represented in 'maidan' (may well be the case)	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	good point. dem chgemtrails	[11:20]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_lander dopeheads are always overepresented. one thing, because age group. the other, because inhibitions.	[11:20]
jurov	and it's usually done in china except usually done in the US/UK?	[11:21]
ascii_lander	jurov is translating with dictionary or what	[11:22]
ascii_lander	the us/uk paragraph refers to the (ancient, snoreworthy) fact of research in use of dope for psychodemocratiderpization is a beloved research topic in those countries.	[11:23]
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jurov	my russian isn't to notch, but he says "similar work is done in US/UK" and two paragraphs later ""spajsy" usually come from asian region"	[11:23]
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ascii_lander	jurov: next paragraph reveals (shock!) where folks in ru ultimately get their 'bath salts'	[11:24]
ascii_lander	(known, perhaps because everyone in ru is herbert fan, as 'spice')	[11:24]
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jurov	i don't get it. so they blame the mass poisoning to US/UK developed stuff distributed by some "totalitarian sects"?	[11:25]
ascii_lander	jurov: that thing is a ru example of the kind of 'public health' idiocy piece often found in usa papers	[11:25]
ascii_lander	e.g., 'smoking is a tool of pedos so quit smoke' etc	[11:26]
*	ascii_lander wonders why jurov so reliably reads ru tabloids	[11:27]
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jurov	so, when russian narco police says something, it's to be considered as tabloid material?	[11:27]
*	ascii_lander not up to date on ru narcopolice (recall how putin was supposedly set to abolish it, on account of derpitude?) but seems to be the case	[11:28]
jurov	and generally it's because many other people around here read ru tabloids and try to make sense of it, with horrible results	[11:29]
jurov	that cause me to take notice	[11:29]
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lobbes	!up ascii_lander	[11:31]
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ben_vulpes	buenos dias	[11:34]
jurov	hi vulpes	[11:35]
ben_vulpes	hi jurov!	[11:35]
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ben_vulpes	how's it with you?	[11:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00031394 = 11.5844 BTC [+]	[11:36]
jurov	it's okay	[11:36]
mircea_popescu	!up ascii_lander	[11:37]
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mircea_popescu	yo ben_vulpes	[11:37]
ascii_lander	something is jamming almost whole 2.4g	[11:37]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes is awake!	[11:37]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2015/stop-all-the-clocks-again/	[11:38]
assbot	Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIHU99 )	[11:38]
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ben_vulpes	ascii_lander: i think the empenadas i found brought 2.4g contamination back to hotel redacto	[11:39]
ben_vulpes	buenos dias herr popescu	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	!up RetroFeel	[11:39]
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RetroFeel	hi	[11:40]
RetroFeel	wondering	[11:40]
RetroFeel	anyone tried https://investcryptos.com?ref=60752352 ? or no ref https://investcryptos.com	[11:40]
assbot	InvestCryptos - Double Your Crypto Currencies ... ( http://bit.ly/1yO4Wgl )	[11:40]
assbot	InvestCryptos - Double Your Crypto Currencies ... ( http://bit.ly/1yO4WwN )	[11:40]
RetroFeel	got some ref payment there but should i invest in program?	[11:40]
mircea_popescu	dude stop being retarded.	[11:41]
RetroFeel	??	[11:41]
ben_vulpes		[11:41]
ascii_lander	RetroFeel: no. better idea, convert your money to zimbabwean dollars and put in pyre. then light	[11:41]
ascii_lander	the gods will then smile	[11:41]
ascii_lander	and mega-returnz.	[11:41]
RetroFeel	what does this mean sir	[11:41]
RetroFeel	looking for advice please :/	[11:41]
ben_vulpes	7% a week, i think	[11:41]
ascii_lander	777	[11:41]
ben_vulpes	it means it's a scam	[11:41]
RetroFeel	ok but i got paid ref comm???	[11:42]
ben_vulpes	RetroFeel: u savvy how HYIP works?	[11:42]
RetroFeel	hm?	[11:42]
RetroFeel	sorry english not 100%	[11:42]
ben_vulpes	high yield investment product	[11:43]
ben_vulpes	aka take your money and run	[11:43]
ben_vulpes	look buddy you're lucky enough to have bitcoins	[11:43]
ben_vulpes	don't burn them on scams	[11:43]
RetroFeel	I have 8.5 bitcoin how to grow?	[11:43]
ben_vulpes	buy more.	[11:43]
RetroFeel	thought if i play some 1 coin i may double	[11:43]
ben_vulpes	"may" << not over a long enough time.	[11:44]
RetroFeel	ok	[11:44]
Pierre_Rochard	I have 8.5 bitcoin how to grow? <= as the chosen people say, dayenu	[11:45]
ben_vulpes	[13:34] hm. you prolly took it from miserere ? like 4 ? << walked past misere at one point	[11:45]
ben_vulpes	strolled from palermo	[11:46]
mircea_popescu	so wheredja start ?	[11:46]
ben_vulpes	place called...	[11:46]
ben_vulpes	"Sheldon"	[11:46]
ben_vulpes	showing ascii_lander heights of orcish technology	[11:47]
mircea_popescu	so like honduras ?	[11:47]
ben_vulpes	and serrano	[11:47]
ascii_lander	top orcraft.	[11:48]
mircea_popescu	yeah so like 6-7km	[11:48]
ben_vulpes	i kept expecting food along the way	[11:48]
ben_vulpes	FOOLISHLY	[11:48]
mircea_popescu	o, rly ?	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	no parilladas nada ?	[11:49]
ben_vulpes	apparently we missed them all	[11:49]
ben_vulpes	and then it was two and only the retarded pizza joints filled with teens were open	[11:49]
ben_vulpes	saw some grafitti people doing their thing tho	[11:49]
ascii_lander	we ate sodium light and lulz instead	[11:50]
ben_vulpes	* ascii_lander [13:43] read mircea_popescu pgp rfc in half-awake state and almost released brain from nose until realized that it is for -keyserver- and not a pgptron (e.g. gpg) per se << wasn't there an actual keyserver rfc at some point? i swear i read this thing but now cannot find it.	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	not afaik	[11:50]
ben_vulpes	we ate sodium light and lulz instead << many lulz painted on the sidewalk	[11:50]
ben_vulpes	apparently the big iron bowls outside congreso nacional are nazi installations in some regard?	[11:51]
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ascii_lander	did mengele upchuck into those or what.	[11:51]
ben_vulpes	[09:44] Vexual, this chick https://www.linkedin.com/pub/amber-messer/4a/116/149 it's recon_eric wife << CoralFeather?	[11:53]
assbot	Amber Messer \| LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIL1hl )	[11:53]
ben_vulpes	this is some burning man shibboleth?	[11:53]
*	ascii_lander begins to stir into motion	[11:54]
ben_vulpes	i have some salt to stuff in buckets, ascii_lander	[11:54]
ben_vulpes	feel free to proceed without me	[11:55]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: take your time	[11:55]
*	ascii_lander has not washed, dressed, or entirely awakened	[11:56]
*	ben_vulpes has html to manually diff and jam into vcs	[11:56]
ben_vulpes	thanksbro	[11:56]
*	ascii_lander looks at the toil of ben_vulpes and is happy to have left the fires of the orcish smithies entirely behind in mordor	[11:57]
*	ben_vulpes eyes ascii_lander's tether	[11:58]
ben_vulpes	mhm	[11:58]
ben_vulpes	'tis a "right button" bit of saltwork	[11:59]
ascii_lander	aha.	[11:59]
*	ben_vulpes sighs	[12:00]
ben_vulpes	whose editor not only indents after a closing tag but also uses tabs?	[12:00]
ascii_lander	heathen emacs ?	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b3vnw_cow-and-chicken-season-4-episode-4-mall-cop_fun << speaking of tethers	[12:01]
assbot	Cow and Chicken Season 4 Episode 4: Mall Cop - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIMnsx )	[12:01]
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ben_vulpes	i am pavlovianly disappointed	[12:02]
ben_vulpes	i see mircea_popescu links and expect to see all sorts of perversions	[12:02]
mircea_popescu	don't stereotype me	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	check your privilege!	[12:03]
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*	ascii_lander finally moves from bed, brb.	[12:05]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_lander	[12:09]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_lander for 30 minutes.	[12:09]
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ben_vulpes	http://www.buenosairesmilongas.com/#Tuesday << dig the sweet table-based UI	[12:16]
assbot	Buenos Aires Milongas ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIQ2qj )	[12:16]
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chetty	Updated 21 September 2010 // you might be a little late ben_vulpes	[12:25]
ben_vulpes	heh didn't even see that...	[12:27]
ben_vulpes	guess i need some more coffee	[12:27]
ben_vulpes	http://shahrukhmerchant.com/ << legitt	[12:29]
assbot	Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIUo0v )	[12:29]
ben_vulpes	ascii_lander: knob swizzled	[12:29]
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ben_vulpes	i'm going to grab some coffee down at the cafe on the plaza	[12:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00031485 = 6.4229 BTC [+] {2}	[12:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00031718 = 8.8493 BTC [+] {3}	[12:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7609 @ 0.00031955 = 2.4315 BTC [+]	[13:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21007 @ 0.00031551 = 6.6279 BTC [-] {2}	[13:13]
lobbes	mircea_popescu, cow and chicken, eh? Funny that I don't picture you as a cartoon connoisseur.	[13:14]
lobbes	You've seen Ren and Stimpy, no? iirc it is the same creators as the former, just more deranged.	[13:14]
lobbes	!up ascii_lander1	[13:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12693 @ 0.00031126 = 3.9508 BTC [-]	[13:15]
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ascii_lander1	;;later tell ben_vulpes i'ma look for food then will stop by hotel lobby around 2 if you want to find me. otherwise will explore the surface alone and we will meet at the coordinates mircea_popescu gave earlier, at 6.	[13:20]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[13:21]
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ben_vulpes	ascii_lander1: ah, i missed the coords	[13:24]
ascii_lander1	l0l there you are.	[13:24]
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ascii_lander1	i went out for food, got distracted following a set of phemiderps drumming and waving plaquards (a gigantic tour bus deposited several dozen right in front of hotel) and then went back to room	[13:25]
ascii_lander1	(to check #b-a naturally)	[13:25]
lobbes	!up miaviator	[13:26]
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ben_vulpes	hola mike_c	[13:26]
miaviator	Thanks lobbes	[13:26]
lobbes	yw	[13:27]
mike_c	hola senor vulpes	[13:27]
miaviator	mircea_popescu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradchun of butterkiss consulting was the coin developer.	[13:27]
ascii_lander1	mike_c is home ?	[13:27]
assbot	bradley chun \| LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1EopNsz )	[13:27]
ben_vulpes	landed safely?	[13:27]
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mike_c	yup, made it back pretty easily	[13:27]
mike_c	;;seen mod6	[13:27]
gribble	mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: ok time to board. ttyl!	[13:27]
mike_c	oh shit, did he miss his flight?	[13:28]
mike_c	wasn't sure if he was going to make it	[13:28]
miaviator	mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/04/garza-friends-additional-emails-detailed/ says there was a 5.1GB email dump, there was two 5GB email dumps do you have both?	[13:28]
assbot	Page not found \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1EopZrO )	[13:28]
ben_vulpes	how on earth do you people make so much email	[13:28]
ascii_lander1	l0l	[13:28]
*	ben_vulpes wonders if the logs are even 5g	[13:29]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: logs are maybe half that ?	[13:30]
ben_vulpes	pete_dushenski: you've measured this?	[13:30]
pete_dushenski	have not. just ballparking	[13:30]
ben_vulpes	apropos of nada, my favorite unlogged line from the con:	[13:31]
ben_vulpes	mike_c: "is he putting /butter/ in his coffee?!"	[13:32]
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pete_dushenski	ha, i've heard of people who do this	[13:32]
pete_dushenski	more of a cinnamon man myself	[13:32]
mike_c	it didn't seem to be melting so well either :)	[13:32]
mike_c	btw, 2 years of logs = 400mb (measured)	[13:32]
pete_dushenski	aha.	[13:33]
mike_c	and that's the html files..	[13:33]
pete_dushenski	so 1/10 of the gaw emails	[13:33]
pete_dushenski	1/12*	[13:33]
ben_vulpes	probably largely attributable to the endless politeness	[13:34]
ben_vulpes	"plz foar ams profesh"	[13:34]
lobbes	re: coffee. Once you go black, you can't go back. Added benefit of $maxcaffeine per cup	[13:38]
pete_dushenski	scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/21/the-case-for-infanticide/	[13:39]
assbot	The case for infanticide. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EosESw )	[13:39]
*	pete_dushenski reading all these garza letters on qntra. quite the dig cazalla!	[13:40]
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mod6	hi :]	[13:46]
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pete_dushenski	heya mod6!	[13:47]
mod6	mike_c: na, i made my flight yesterday no problemo. earlier today I was boarding my connection in ATL. I'm back home now.	[13:47]
mod6	in mordor (lol)	[13:47]
pete_dushenski	mod6: was that your first trip to south america ?	[13:48]
pete_dushenski	btw did i miss the reason why log1 isn't working ?	[13:49]
mod6	pete_dushenski: ya	[13:49]
pete_dushenski	very cool!	[13:50]
mod6	it really was.	[13:51]
mod6	and so ... ok, it's snowing here today	[13:51]
mike_c	mod6: ah, good. not that getting stuck in BA would have been the worst thing in the world.	[13:51]
mod6	true :)	[13:52]
mod6	today its 37 deg. F/2.7 deg. C and snowing lol	[13:52]
mod6	mike_c: how was your flight(s)?	[13:53]
mike_c	very easy. i slept through most of it again	[13:53]
mod6	oh wow. good for you. i never sleep on planes hardly.	[13:56]
mod6	which reminds me; I need a nap :]	[13:56]
mod6	I'll come back and checkin a bit later. hasta luego!	[13:56]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105714 << heh. nice	[14:13]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 14:40:32; Pierre_Rochard: I have 8.5 bitcoin how to grow? <= as the chosen people say, dayenu	[14:13]
pete_dushenski	https://blog.sucuri.net/2015/04/security-advisory-xss-vulnerability-affecting-multiple-wordpress-plugins.html << for anyone using jetpack, wordpress seo, yoast thingies, etc.	[14:16]
assbot	Security Advisory: XSS Vulnerability Affecting Multiple WordPress Plugins \| Sucuri Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76Njt )	[14:16]
pete_dushenski	http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/#comment-19226 << zing williamdunne !	[14:17]
assbot	Caleb Chen, Stephanie Murphy & Brian Sovryn Assist Ponzi Scheme \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1J7706e )	[14:17]
Pierre_Rochard	pete_dushenski: attended my first two passover dinners this year, the first was blasé, the second was SJW (had the orange on the seder plate, G-d was removed from the prayers!)	[14:17]
pete_dushenski	the first one sounds typical, the second, wtf oranges ?	[14:18]
pete_dushenski	was this in florida ??	[14:18]
pete_dushenski	and lemme guess, the oldest people in the room asked the four questions instead of the youngest	[14:19]
Pierre_Rochard	http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/an-orange-on-the-seder-plate/	[14:19]
assbot	An Orange on the Seder Plate - My Jewish Learning ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJnSLW )	[14:19]
*	pete_dushenski can imagine a buncha octogenarians fighting for who plays the ignorant child	[14:19]
Pierre_Rochard	this goy found it jarring	[14:20]
Pierre_Rochard	haha	[14:20]
pete_dushenski	"Susannah Heschel, a well-known Jewish feminist scholar, was introduced to an early feminist Haggadah that suggested adding a crust of bread on the seder plate, as a sign of solidarity with Jewish lesbians (which was intended to convey the idea that there’s as much room for a lesbian in Judaism as there is for a crust of bread on the seder plate)."	[14:20]
pete_dushenski	HAHAHA omg	[14:21]
pete_dushenski	"Heschel felt that to put bread on the seder plate would be to accept that Jewish lesbians and gay men violate Judaism like hametz [leavened food] violates Passover. So at her next seder, she chose an orange as a symbol of inclusion of gays and lesbians and others who are marginalized within the Jewish community. She offered the orange as a symbol of the fruitfulness for all Jews when lesbians and gay men are co	[14:21]
pete_dushenski	ntributing and active members of Jewish life."	[14:21]
pete_dushenski	lol jeebus that's too much to take!	[14:21]
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pete_dushenski	such "tradition hates me so let's pretend like tradition can be whatever we want it to be"	[14:22]
pete_dushenski	Pierre_Rochard: i'll fly you down for one of my seders one of these fine years.	[14:22]
Pierre_Rochard	pete_dushenski: it would be an honor	[14:23]
Pierre_Rochard	a mitzvah*	[14:23]
pete_dushenski	i mean hey, if mp can host conferences, the least i can do is host the serene republic's seders	[14:23]
pete_dushenski	Pierre_Rochard: the mitzvah would be all mine ;)	[14:24]
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chetty	http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/many-vitamins-can-give-you-5556383	[14:28]
assbot	Too many vitamins can give you CANCER, major new study warns the millions who take them - Mirror Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJq6e5 )	[14:28]
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lobbes	'One trial found the chances of lung cancer increased by 18% while another showed an rise of 28%.'	[14:44]
lobbes	I wonder if this is because the people taking these supplements are trying to offset all the processed crap they are eating	[14:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00032154 = 3.4887 BTC [+]	[14:45]
lobbes	hence, the 'pseudo-food' being at least a contributing factor	[14:47]
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chetty	well most of those vitamins are just more nasty chems like the pseudo-food	[14:50]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 58(Y):42(N) by coin, 58(Y):42(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.22 BTC. Current weight: 99,079.	[15:13]
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jayk	Jezzz jitenm Jrum julmac jurov	[15:52]
jayk	Jezzz jitenm Jrum julmac jurov	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	lobbes and why not ?	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	hadn't seen ren and stimpy, no	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105786 << lawl. this may be the first argentinian tour coordinated by irc.	[15:56]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 16:21:00; ascii_lander1: (to check #b-a naturally)	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	miaviator i dunno, talk tio cazalla about that.	[15:57]
miaviator	Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c mircea_popescu mius mixdio	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	how's ny mike_c ?	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105803 << because they don't know how to use email. a) they top answer ; b) they add all that signature spam.	[15:58]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 16:24:03; ben_vulpes: how on earth do you people make so much email	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	15% of the 5gb is made up out of 568048645 instances of "if i sent this email to the wrong guy please pretend this never happened because my name is phantomcircuit" in 45734 threads.	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105816 << this.	[16:00]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 16:28:33; mike_c: and that's the html files..	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	lol infanticide. as time goes by, petey gets moar and moar eligible bacheloar.	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	Return-path:	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	From: "TAX@irs.gov"	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	Subject: Your FED TAX payment (ID:11HIRS244242490) was Rejected	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	nice try spamboy. however as it happens, i send as many payments to the irs as I have accounts with citi	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105830 << no idea ?	[16:05]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 16:44:23; pete_dushenski: btw did i miss the reason why log1 isn't working ?	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	hey kakobrekla do you know ?	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105850 << what's the orange do ?	[16:08]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 17:13:09; Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: attended my first two passover dinners this year, the first was blasé, the second was SJW (had the orange on the seder plate, G-d was removed from the prayers!)	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	dude fucking bs	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck is heschel and who asked her anything.	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	srsly, 1980 ? three digit year or it didn't happen.	[16:09]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105868 << i think it's time the republic starts oppressing teh jews like any real country. how about, forcing them to add a slice of black forest cake to the seder.	[16:12]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 17:19:06; pete_dushenski: i mean hey, if mp can host conferences, the least i can do is host the serene republic's seders	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	should be punishment enough.	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	WP-E-Commerce kek	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	heh. me wonders why exactly is it that the wp derps are willing to coordinate vulnerability "fixes" by "upgrading" with the sucuri derps.	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	then me notices the sucuri website uses disqus.	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	mmmmkay.	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	pro tip : disqus is like the yellow star in the jewish ghetto.	[16:26]
BingoBoingo	I wonder if this is because the people taking these supplements are trying to offset all the processed crap they are eating << Or because folate is like gasoline for the living. The first chemotherapy trials for Leukemia tried Folic Acid as the drug agent. Interesting reads came out of that.	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	Pierre_Rochard you know the very notion that someone thinks themselves gay and jewish... it's like... the quadriplegic swimmer or something. the 98 yo beauty queen	[16:27]
B0g4r7	badon bagels7 BananaLotus beetcoin Belxjander ben_vulpes BigBitz BingoBoingo bitspill BlueMatt bounce	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	i'm with BingoBoingo : folate is toxic in large doses, especially to males. and they're being dosed to all shit out of seemingly innocuous stuff (like flour) because hey, women might need it.	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	but you can't make "woman flour", so just fuck up everyone.	[16:28]
BingoBoingo	The batch of kids who were expected to make it another six months without treatment were lucky (or unlucky) if they made it past three weeks on the trial	[16:31]
Pierre_Rochard	mircea_popescu: “reform judaism” -> special olympics, “inner beauty” pageant	[16:31]
*	lobbes now feels compelled to read flour labels before buying	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	Pierre_Rochard nuts.	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	lobbes it's not required labelling.	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	but it IS one of the amusing marks of ignorance (to me), because the derps all concerned about flouridated water do not seem to know about the "fortified" milk and the folated flour.	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	it's like... ooookay, i'm sure your careful approach to intake of substances will change things.	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	but for the record : the case for dosing women, especially the sort likely to have kids unexpectedly (young, addicted, poor) and the sort likely to be depleted (oyung, addicted, poor) is extremely compelling.	[16:33]
BingoBoingo	^	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	absent folate, all sorts of neural tube defects arise (spina bifida chief among em), and the absence kinda has to be remedied a week before conception.	[16:34]
BingoBoingo	A little bit of folate does quite a bit of good, but too much is playing with fire outside of pregnancy situations.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	something like that.	[16:35]
BingoBoingo	Other B-vitamins, nicotinic acid and cyanocobalamin far safer and necessary for the endurance drinker	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:36]
BingoBoingo	"Banana Bag" and all	[16:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00031851 = 4.6662 BTC [+] {2}	[16:37]
mike_c	mircea_popescu:how's ny mike_c ? << beautiful day today. springtime in manhattan is not a bad thing.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[16:39]
BingoBoingo	Springtime in Illinois is more precarious. Sure right now the weather is beautiful and the tulips are nearing the end of their blooming, but... at any moment the sky could change its mind and try to smote me.	[16:42]
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chetty	http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/	[17:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1J7O7A4 )	[17:36]
BingoBoingo	http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417155/wisconsins-shame-i-thought-it-was-home-invasion-david-french	[17:42]
assbot	Wisconsin's Shame: ‘I Thought It Was a Home Invasion’ \| National Review Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1J7PkHK )	[17:42]
BingoBoingo	^ Kulaks	[17:42]
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BingoBoingo	;;later tell danielpbarron http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/04/twitter-broadens-violent-threat-stance-makes-offenders-face-music/	[17:53]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[17:53]
assbot	Twitter broadens “violent threat” stance, makes offenders face music \| Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1J7RvuK )	[17:53]
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cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105595 <<< refresh! didn't have much choice at the time given ftp issue	[18:41]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 13:25:57; mircea_popescu: cazalla why are you linking random http://www.filedropper.com/gawtar instead of locally hosting ?	[18:41]
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mthreat	mircea_popescu: have some fun with this one: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/21/chimpanzees-granted-legal-persons-status-unlawful-imprisonment	[19:57]
assbot	Chimpanzees granted 'legal persons' status to defend their rights in court \| World news \| The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1G4yAef )	[19:57]
mthreat	habeas simius	[19:58]
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mircea_popescu	mthreat lol can one marry them yet ?	[21:34]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Gotta remember it is 'Murica so Arm ripping chimps, not blowjob chimps.	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	"On Monday, Manhattan supreme court justice Barbara Jaffe granted a writ of habeas corpus on behalf of two non-human plaintiffs"	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	this is so fucking stupid...	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	how exactly does the us expect to ever be taken seriously ?	[21:36]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_lander	[21:36]
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ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105894 << $64KBez question, why mircea_popescu gets precisely same spams as i do	[21:39]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 18:58:13; mircea_popescu: Subject: Your FED TAX payment (ID:11HIRS244242490) was Rejected	[21:39]
ascii_lander	(who else? raise hands?)	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	probably someone bought a list of "business"	[21:39]
ascii_lander	i wonder if it includes, say, my garbage man	[21:39]
ascii_lander	( if it can fit both mircea_popescu and i )	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	we prolly all ended up on it because someone or other did a harvesting run of ba stuff	[21:40]
*	BingoBoingo finally filed his annual IRS papers this week. Another 0 tax year.	[21:40]
ascii_lander	the lulzy part is that the addr where i get these isn't even the one in my wot key	[21:40]
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ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105915 << ahhaha. i have this thing going with pet, where in some sf universe there are differing, say, sugar chiralities for males and females to eat	[21:42]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 19:24:03; mircea_popescu: but you can't make "woman flour", so just fuck up everyone.	[21:42]
ascii_lander	implications would make for a good yarn	[21:42]
ascii_lander	(e.g., folks eating wrong-handed foods to diet and shitting selves as per 'olestra' , etc)	[21:43]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/04/windows-servers-pwnd-by-jpeg-uploads/	[21:45]
assbot	Page not found \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSnH3Z )	[21:45]
ascii_lander	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105935 << sop. the 'usaschwitz' thing is merely becoming formalized into written law	[21:45]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 20:31:48; chetty: http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/	[21:45]
ascii_lander	(no one owns anything, not even own pathetic carcass)	[21:45]
BingoBoingo	I honestly could see the Tractor Pull lobby and John Deere coming to blows over this	[21:46]
ascii_lander	the basic precedent is nailed down long ago.	[21:46]
BingoBoingo	Things change when dealing with people who throw additional motors on a chassis more enthusiastically than AMD throws more core on a die	[21:47]
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BingoBoingo	Tractor Pull is a phenomenon like Hamas that attracts an strong overlap of people with engineering talent and a love of firearms.	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Tractor_pull_02.JPG << Sample of the small end of serious pulling tractors https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Tractor_pull_02.JPG	[21:51]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: tractor is a strategic good	[21:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HSomSM )	[21:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HSomSP )	[21:51]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: esp. the type that matters, the robotic/self-driving one	[21:51]
ascii_lander	hence the importance, to the buggers, of nailing down 'no, you don't get to examine or change the fw'	[21:52]
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BingoBoingo	I want to understand that, but have trouble taking that seriously when this happens 200-400 yards from my front door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-359hBzEV4	[21:54]
assbot	Combine Demolition Derby, 2010 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1aQieNH )	[21:54]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: two worlds. one that is palpable with unarmed eye, and the one that matters.	[21:54]
BingoBoingo	It's interesting the ways that sports men and women weaponize these things that evade the inspectors and referees until the machines break	[21:55]
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ascii_lander	mod6, ben_vulpes, mike_c: note to usaschwitz inmates: 10x the usual frequency of scam callz to my u.s. phone, during voyage. somewhere there is a db of folks who went off the reservation. don't be surprised if phones in your social graph were similarly targeted.	[21:58]
BingoBoingo	hopper full of telephone pole segments was my favorite. I have no idea what serious advantafe they were aiming for there	[21:58]
ascii_lander	betcha somebody got the traditional 'ransom scam' for instance.	[21:58]
ascii_lander	point being, that not only do things widely known to leak - leak, but also other things	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	lol john deere selling "licenses to operate" tractors now ?	[21:59]
ascii_lander	and one ought not to expect to hear any 'official' discussion thereof.	[22:00]
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ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: in precisely the same way as crapple sells license to operate iPnohe, toyota - to operate toyota, etc. and the rest of the firmwarederpological world	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	so illegal, all of this.	[22:00]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: ECU firmware license with purchase of tractor apparently	[22:00]
ascii_lander	started -at least- with ibm selling permission to use that 31st cpu etc	[22:01]
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ascii_lander	l0l, 'illegal' is a concept only meaningful to commoners, in usa	[22:02]
ascii_lander	it does not apply to anything usg or its tentacles might do.	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	i was speaking of the proper term, illegal as deemed by the most serene republic.	[22:02]
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mircea_popescu	not pale fiat scamversions of the concept.	[22:02]
ascii_lander	might as well go straight to 'epidemiological hazard, nominated for glassing'	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2015/pgp-keyserver/#comment-113787 << check that guy out	[22:03]
ascii_lander	rather than merely 'illegal'	[22:03]
assbot	Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSpYfh )	[22:03]
*	ascii_lander just noticed the steady drip of derpcomments on trilema re: the fetlife thing	[22:04]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu that commenter sounds pretty... simple.	[22:04]
*	ascii_lander wonders when the swarm will tire	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	even the longest journey...	[22:05]
ascii_lander	'Or any recommendations in general for someone who is quite tech savvy, but whose programming skills and experience don't go beyond writing some basic scripts.' << what does 'tech savvy' mean?	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	maybe he works a cnc mill	[22:05]
pete_dushenski	he owns an ipod	[22:06]
ascii_lander	that'd be a bit further than 'basic scripts'	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	maybe he runs an engine mod shop	[22:06]
ascii_lander	(cnc is a fairly legit variant of what we understand as 'programming')	[22:06]
pete_dushenski	and he can sync it to itunes. his grandma cannot do this.	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander yes but like jourdain speaking in prose, he might not realise that's what it is.	[22:06]
pete_dushenski	so he was called 'tech savvy' once	[22:06]
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mircea_popescu	if it were the only thing he does	[22:06]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu so how did the first conference in bsas stack up with the romanian editions ?	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	i would say steady improvement	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, what do folk that went to both/all think ?	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	davout, which was best conf to date ?	[22:08]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander seems to be lingering longer this time	[22:10]
ascii_lander	l0l aha still here	[22:10]
ascii_lander	and for most of tomorrow even.	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	so is the consensus that one can't be tech savvy without being a programmer ?	[22:10]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: idk but i still remember when that -meant- - if meant anything - that one could program	[22:11]
pete_dushenski	well are you not tech savvy then ?	[22:11]
BingoBoingo	One probably at least needs be know of programming.	[22:11]
pete_dushenski	^mircea_popescu	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	i can code in whatever language you feel like,	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	i just can't be arsed to.	[22:11]
ascii_lander	^	[22:11]
pete_dushenski	aha	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	i used to read diskedit printouts looking for Stoned B as a kid, i CAN do it.	[22:12]
ascii_lander	^ m3m0ri1z	[22:13]
pete_dushenski	i can see it. savvy basically meaning that you can make the machine do what you want	[22:13]
*	ascii_lander nostalgic for clever virii	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Stoned-virus-hexacode.png << dude check it out	[22:13]
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mircea_popescu	many people remember, apparently.	[22:13]
ascii_lander	of course we remember.	[22:14]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: re: earlier thread: you would, i think, like this place.	[22:15]
pete_dushenski	;;ticker	[22:15]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 234.15, Best ask: 234.46, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 234.32, 24 hour volume: 33051.75287713, 24 hour low: 224.2, 24 hour high: 236.99, 24 hour vwap: None	[22:15]
*	ascii_lander 's least favourite part is...	[22:16]
ascii_lander	...	[22:16]
ascii_lander	… going home.	[22:16]
ascii_lander	i'm convinced that if most u.s. folks knew what kind of jail they live in, they would go full bore apeshit.	[22:17]
BingoBoingo	When I make it out I'd like to avoid that part. Probably not stay in hardware B-A too long first visit, but definitely temped to spend decade+ outsid of Illinois.	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	and if earthworms knew what their fate is they'd miss being the emperors of china, and the throne.	[22:17]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: they would if they could.	[22:18]
BingoBoingo	Maybe earthworms are wired to like living in the shit?	[22:18]
ascii_lander	'We are worms, we're the best, and we've come to win the war. / We'll stand, we'll never run; stay until it's done.' (™) (R)	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	"She got the dogs safely out of the house, just as multiple armed agents rushed inside. Some even barged into the bathroom, where her partner was in the shower."	[22:19]
ascii_lander	^ davout might recognize the source	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	lol derps timed it to bother the woman post-coitally?	[22:19]
ascii_lander	wai wat	[22:20]
pete_dushenski	they probably enjoyed the entertainment before busting in	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	some link in the logs.	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	to do with wisconsin.	[22:21]
ascii_lander	found it aha	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	anyway, people just need to start shooting.	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	put up signs "groups of police not allowed on this property. come alone or get shot."	[22:21]
BingoBoingo	Wisconsin was too polite, It's almost pete_dushenski land	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	and then start shooting at any groups of cops larger than one.	[22:22]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo apparently the border is increasingly blurry	[22:22]
pete_dushenski	now us border guards can patrol canadian rail stations and airports and if they kill someone, be subject only to us law	[22:23]
ascii_lander	nato colony.	[22:23]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Wisconsin has culturally been the land of you fuckers forever. The new stuff is all things that should concern you	[22:23]
pete_dushenski	so ascii_lander quite that.	[22:23]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo that didn't parse ?	[22:24]
pete_dushenski	'us fuckers' being canuckians ?	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Wisconsin's basically been Canadian since... the 1920's	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	As soon as there were enough people there to commune with yall	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	that'd explain the cheese.	[22:24]
ascii_lander	'… next came ominous warnings. Don’t call your lawyer. Don’t tell anyone about this raid. Not even your mother, your father, or your closest friends.' << l0l	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	otherwise us cheese is like tall chinese strippers.	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander meanwhile i'm like, "yeah totally, go read trilema tomorrow."	[22:25]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo well then wisconsin has been part of canada longer than (half) my family!	[22:25]
pete_dushenski	is wisconsin cheese actually decent? not sure i've tried any	[22:25]
ascii_lander	'And she realized, “Every aspect of my life is in their hands. And they hate me.”'	[22:26]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Yeah, but it's also an avenue for contagion. US badgov goes to Canada through Green Bay	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski it's actually not bad. well,m the better stuff anyway	[22:26]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo 'then straight on till morning'	[22:27]
ascii_lander	the only answer is something like total cultural dismantlement (see carthage) and the proverbial 1000 years of colonial ball-crusher.	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/2e4abde700722943b58acc7eb4b2b8a9/tumblr_ncmjn3Ymmz1tmc6gao6_r1_400.gif	[22:27]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu i'd have to figure that everywhere has at least some variant of edible, even enjoyable cheese.	[22:28]
pete_dushenski	whether this is normal or not..	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	not necessarily.	[22:28]
ascii_lander	400.gif << somebody isn't eager to take in the american cheese emitter	[22:28]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu btw i didn't fully grok your comment on my infanticide article. sarcasm or no ?	[22:29]
pete_dushenski	not sure that being in favour of baby killin' makes one more or less attractive to opposite sex, but would guess the latter	[22:29]
BingoBoingo	California cheese pretty shitty, dunno why they are burning so much water on that and Alfalfa	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski i don't think any woman is going to score the male propensity to infanticide positively.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, any female, of any mammal species.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	is the fundamental disagreement between the genders.	[22:29]
pete_dushenski	females want their children to survive, males want their children to perform	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	females strongly wish the offspring to survive. males weakly wish the offspring to perish.	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	performance is a byproduct.	[22:30]
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pete_dushenski	a byproduct of what?	[22:31]
ascii_lander	of the opposite death ray beams	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski of that imbalance.	[22:31]
pete_dushenski	hmm	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	this is how everything works, incidentally.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	the sun wants particles strongly energized, thermodynamics wants particles weakly de-energized.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	as a result, coriolis storms, rainbows, deep throating and daisies.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	all epiphenomena of the fundamental imbalance.	[22:33]
pete_dushenski	deep throating being when the father doesn't wish his offspring to perish strongly enough ? or too strongly ?	[22:33]
pete_dushenski	s/being/resulting	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	unrelated. it's a false bridge between the two example cases.	[22:34]
pete_dushenski	ok	[22:34]
pete_dushenski	i can see it.	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	point being, the strong push weak pull device drives all performance, but performance is a byproduct.	[22:35]
pete_dushenski	thankfully most contravex readers have dongs	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	if it doesn't make sense to women, it doesn't make sense to men, either. whether they're poorly equipped to figure it out or not, notwithstanding.	[22:35]
pete_dushenski	how so ? are there not differing perspectives ? differing inclinations between the sexes ?	[22:37]
BingoBoingo	Anything younger than 10 is probably too early to cull anyways	[22:37]
ascii_lander	cheapest infanticide is simpy: not making'em in the first place	[22:37]
ascii_lander	*simply	[22:37]
ascii_lander	just like the 'best car'	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski different perspectives of what ?	[22:37]
BingoBoingo	At least for cases not obviously cullable in womb	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander notrly how this works. cheapest computer is not "no computer". that's cheapest noncomputer.	[22:38]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu towards the value of a child, particularly if handicapped	[22:38]
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mircea_popescu	eh, "value of a child" is like iq.	[22:38]
pete_dushenski	ok, value of your own freedom and independence	[22:38]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: whatchatalkingabout, works great. just like the 'noncomputers' running my knives, forks, shoes work great.	[22:38]
ascii_lander	best computerz.	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	lol k	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski that's like the value of god.	[22:39]
pete_dushenski	or of heaven and hell, ya	[22:39]
ascii_lander	how do you even comment on the 'value' of something which pretty much no one has anything like a reasonable reason to want.	[22:40]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu i guess i'm still wondering why the 'making sense' equation has women leading and men following	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	anyway, this "natural" thing... shitting in the bed is also natural. something being natural offers little ethical indication.	[22:40]
ascii_lander	what is the 'value' of being dragged behind a truck until nothing remains on the rope but a small flap of skin ?	[22:40]
BingoBoingo	http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/21/michele_leonhart_resigns_dea_head_steps_down_after_prostitution_scandal.html << Mega lol, leaving when the opportunity for side income dries	[22:41]
assbot	Michele Leonhart resigns: DEA head steps down after prostitution scandal, disagreement over marijuana. ... ( http://bit.ly/1aQncK7 )	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski it doesn't. if something makes sense to only one gender, specifically, it's probably stupid.	[22:41]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu that's general enough that i can't argue with that	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	and kids are drastically distinguishable from animals, at any age.	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	for one thing, they grab.	[22:43]
ascii_lander	cat grabs	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	kitten doth not.	[22:44]
ascii_lander	one grabbed me at the old cemetary just today	[22:44]
ascii_lander	hm	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	monkeys do not, either. they eventually learn to, but if you watch it specifically, the difference is striking.	[22:45]
BingoBoingo	Racoons grab, play hockey	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	adfults, yes.	[22:45]
BingoBoingo	With a life expectancy of 2 years hard to call any racoons adults	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	haha ok	[22:46]
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BingoBoingo	I have seem a great many short flat citronella candle in tin leave the bounds of the picnic table in the backyard due to those masked bandits	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	anyway, this entire discussion of interests and bs... i dunno that there's any value in trying to re-write the protestant ethics-as-capitalism.	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	it's been amply documented and vastly shown to not work, one's probably better served by reading the past three centuries of various attempts.	[22:48]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu this a romanian article you're referring to ?	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski which this ?	[22:48]
pete_dushenski	the 're-write'	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	no, yours.	[22:48]
pete_dushenski	lol aok	[22:48]
ascii_lander	just what is it that was shown not to work ?	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	"it can’t possibly outweigh the interests of " etc	[22:49]
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ascii_lander	it is like saying that meteorite does not work. for the man whose head it falls on - it 'worked.'	[22:49]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_lander the idea that you can calculate the sum-value-in-the-future for alternative courses of actions and pick like you pick an investment	[22:49]
ascii_lander	aha that	[22:49]
mircea_popescu	ie, protestant ethics-as-capitalism	[22:49]
ascii_lander	rawls being the most well-known offender here	[22:50]
ascii_lander	but others, aha	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	at least in fashionable contemporary english, sure.	[22:50]
ascii_lander	revolting gasbags	[22:50]
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mircea_popescu	it's squarely irrelevant "where this leads". lead it where it may, do it or don't do it on some basis other than you know, "expectations".	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	all the derps pushing gaw, for instance, neglected proper causes of action because of their retarded dreams as to the future.	[22:51]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu ok so 'can't possibly' is too strong.	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	it's not a very sane approach to action.	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski no, just, the approach is meaningless. who cares what outweighs what.	[22:52]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: it is the logic of hunger. or, more to the point, of thirst. what is the logic of a stranded sailor deciding to drink sea water ?	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	if some "public interest" however defines "exceeds" however defined my pleasure at cutting the bankrupt's heart, what of it ?	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	until you can rail the seal from off my bond...	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	"SHYLOCK: Till thou canst rail the seal from off my bond, thou but offend'st thy lungs to speak so loud: repair thy wit, good youth, or it will fall to cureless ruin. I stand here for law."	[22:53]
pete_dushenski	hm ya, it's all exceedingly vague and nebulous	[22:53]
pete_dushenski	so it doesn't really create anything that can be compared	[22:53]
pete_dushenski	so... it's useless!	[22:54]
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mircea_popescu	!up SquirtPrincess	[22:55]
-assbot-	You voiced SquirtPrincess for 30 minutes.	[22:55]
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mircea_popescu	mint julep best julep	[22:55]
pete_dushenski	needless to say, i can see why some people would choose a "post-birth abortion" aka infanticide	[22:55]
pete_dushenski	even if i wouldn't choose it myself	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	i can see why people that just killed a kid would tend to represent this as a choice	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	as i can see why people'd tend to represent it as no choice at all	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	whatever, trauma logic.	[22:56]
ascii_lander	what'd be the, alternatively, trauma-surgeon-logic ?	[22:56]
ascii_lander	as in, perspective of reasonable thought outside of the trauma	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	the alternative is nothing. murder's not something to be explained.	[22:57]
ascii_lander	^	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	teh lion does not go into song after lightening the lioness' load.	[22:57]
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ascii_lander	spartan speaks with sword (tm)	[22:58]
ascii_lander	(the thing where everything -has- to be explained/ratiocinated is a disease of modernity, aha)	[22:58]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu curious, do you think abortion is murder ? if so, at what point ?	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	murder is a legal concept, i suppose i misspoke.	[22:58]
BingoBoingo	It depends on the mother, father, and the foetus	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	s/murder/*-cide/	[22:59]
pete_dushenski	that makes sense.	[23:00]
pete_dushenski	actually that clarifies things quite a bit.	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	During an appearance before the House Oversight Committee on April 14, Leonhart faced aggressive questioning over the punishment imposed on agents who were found to be engaging in “sex parties” in Colombia with prostitutes that were funded by drug cartels. Expressing displeasure that the agents were given suspensions of between two and 10 days and did not lose their positions or security clearance, Republican Rep.	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	Trey Gowdy of South Carolina asked, “What would it take to get fired at the DEA? The DEA agents I used to work with were worried about using their cars to pick up dry-cleaning.”	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	lmao.	[23:01]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_lander	[23:09]
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ben_vulpes	buenos noches	[23:10]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes tangoed his fill ?	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	the weirdest prt being that what, you actually have to organize columbian prostitutes to fuck gringos now ?	[23:10]
ben_vulpes	ascii_lander: more than	[23:11]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: of course they have to be organized, l0l. as you can see, even basic whore can see radiation damage from a cannon-shot's distance.	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:11]
pete_dushenski	"Furthermore, she has retarded reactions to murder. Murder is a fact of life. It's what healthy, adult men do, exactly as much and exactly the same as having babies is what healthy, adult women do. Her reaction to murder is akin to current day bois' reaction to birth, you'd think the sky just fell over." << closest i came to digging up an 'explanation of murder' via http://trilema.com/2013/la-strada/	[23:12]
assbot	La Strada on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1cXWwsJ )	[23:12]
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BingoBoingo	fucking worthless pseudo-expert http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/flowers/hllyhock.htm	[23:14]
assbot	Questions On Hollyhocks ... ( http://bit.ly/1cXWJMA )	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski you seen that film ?	[23:14]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu have not, i'm guessing that it's going on the list though!	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	it's pretty good.	[23:15]
ben_vulpes	re: coffee. Once you go black, you can't go back. Added benefit of $maxcaffeine per cup << you're missing so much context here i don't know that it's worth fixing	[23:15]
ben_vulpes	but let's try anyways: "pragmatic coffee nerd in buenos aires"	[23:16]
ben_vulpes	glhf	[23:16]
ben_vulpes	oh wow. good for you. i never sleep on planes hardly. << oh man i'm going to sleep sooooo welllll	[23:16]
ben_vulpes	another night of tango at least	[23:16]
*	ascii_lander contemplates the tech level of the junk stores. grew up an orc, yes, but i never touched a fucking gramophone	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	haha you buying one for your antique stores ?	[23:18]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105853 << you know i always get wicked child no matter how old i am	[23:18]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 17:14:27; pete_dushenski: and lemme guess, the oldest people in the room asked the four questions instead of the youngest	[23:18]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes lol atta boy.	[23:18]
ascii_lander	won't buy, no. but marvelled at it.	[23:18]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105859 << imma troll the fam with this next year	[23:19]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 17:16:05; pete_dushenski: "Susannah Heschel, a well-known Jewish feminist scholar, was introduced to an early feminist Haggadah that suggested adding a crust of bread on the seder plate, as a sign of solidarity with Jewish lesbians (which was intended to convey the idea that there’s as much room for a lesbian in Judaism as there is for a crust of bread on the seder plate)."	[23:19]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo would appreciate the fella who was selling, among many other things of this flavour: the back half of a Luger.	[23:19]
ben_vulpes	perhaps i even stay for something past the ceremonial pre-sunset whiskeys next year too	[23:19]
ben_vulpes	WHO KNOWS	[23:19]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: also had something recognizable as a schmeisser mag	[23:19]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes then you come out of the closet ?	[23:19]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105886 << for better or worse top posting is now required to interact with gmail users	[23:20]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 18:53:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105803 << because they don't know how to use email. a) they top answer ; b) they add all that signature spam.	[23:20]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: in a country where apparently no one shoots recreationally, these were peculiar sights	[23:20]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105904 << soaked in fernet?	[23:21]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 19:07:48; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105868 << i think it's time the republic starts oppressing teh jews like any real country. how about, forcing them to add a slice of black forest cake to the seder.	[23:21]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105918 << me too	[23:21]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 19:26:27; *: lobbes now feels compelled to read flour labels before buying	[23:22]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105923 << nono this is entirely bass ackwards. those children should be born as apparently defective as possible.	[23:22]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 19:28:57; mircea_popescu: but for the record : the case for dosing women, especially the sort likely to have kids unexpectedly (young, addicted, poor) and the sort likely to be depleted (oyung, addicted, poor) is extremely compelling.	[23:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19624 @ 0.00032633 = 6.4039 BTC [+] {3}	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes why ?	[23:23]
ben_vulpes	too many people already!	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	so ?	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	i don't think i ever met a girl i actually liked whose parents were not poor.	[23:23]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: this is how you get usa. just as crowded, but with cthonian horrors walking around, instead of pretty gurlz	[23:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16298 @ 0.00032696 = 5.3288 BTC [+]	[23:24]
ben_vulpes	hm	[23:24]
ben_vulpes	well a) your taste in girlie lineage isn't relevant to the discussion	[23:24]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: substitute your own, see if answer differs	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	something like that.	[23:24]
ben_vulpes	you'll find plenty you like from poor parents who accidentally got all the nutrition they need	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	more trustworthy brothers to be had among the children of whores than among the children of whatever, "women in tech"	[23:25]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: WHich half of it?	[23:25]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: ?	[23:26]
*	assbot removes voice from SquirtPrincess	[23:26]
ben_vulpes	ascii_lander: you're plenty familiar with the quality of usa girls	[23:26]
ben_vulpes	is propping the market up really doing anyone any favors?	[23:26]
ben_vulpes	iodized salt?	[23:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00032855 = 5.3882 BTC [+]	[23:27]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: the thing that blew me away (ben_vulpes saw, but putting it here for the permanent record) was the difference in faces.	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	there's not actually anything wrong with iodized salt.	[23:27]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1105966 << good for you - suck the beast dry	[23:27]
assbot	Logged on 22-04-2015 00:35:49; *: BingoBoingo finally filed his annual IRS papers this week. Another 0 tax year.	[23:27]
*	hanbot (~hanbot@unaffiliated/hanbot) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:27]
ascii_lander	in usa perhaps 1 in 10 20-30y.o. females has the face of a human being, rather than a malignant motorized plastic doll	[23:28]
BingoBoingo	ben_vulpes: Only filed because necessary to certify with USG 0 payments on stafford loan repayment plan. Can only tolerate so much phone spam	[23:28]
*	assbot gives voice to hanbot	[23:28]
ascii_lander	here, perhaps 19/20	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander how does that work ?	[23:28]
ascii_lander	how it works? damned if i know	[23:29]
trinque	really depends on the city	[23:29]
ascii_lander	but this is my observation which i will sign under.	[23:29]
trinque	tons of beautiful women in austin, tx	[23:29]
ascii_lander	applies to everywhere i've set foot in.	[23:29]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1105993 << all of my people know how to reach me	[23:29]
assbot	Logged on 22-04-2015 00:54:00; ascii_lander: betcha somebody got the traditional 'ransom scam' for instance.	[23:29]
ascii_lander	(east coast usa)	[23:29]
mircea_popescu	what's this "malignant motorized plastic doll" look ?	[23:30]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: hard to describe if you don't already know	[23:30]
BingoBoingo	This year experimenting with expanding the side gig from lawn mowing to lawn mowing and de-orcing front gardens. liking results so far.	[23:30]
ascii_lander	need better artist than i	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	link some examples ?	[23:30]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: what they look like before a year of real food	[23:30]
ascii_lander	'describe the face of an angry dog'	[23:31]
ben_vulpes	i don't have any, 'cuz port towns lend	[23:31]
trinque	ascii_lander: female fox news anchor?	[23:31]
ascii_lander	trinque: approximately. except that it's attenuated for the camera	[23:31]
ascii_lander	trinque: to get a picture of this face, you more or less have to be an unremarkable male civilian with a camera built into your nostril.	[23:32]
ascii_lander	if someone issues me a nostril cam, i promise to take this photo when i come home.	[23:32]
trinque	lol	[23:32]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: My hypothesis is the particular type of birth control pill which is trendy now. Definitely an effect on skin though, more... textured latex look shits the girls between 17-20, rather sudden onset.	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	what do they use ?	[23:32]
trinque	surely BsAs chicks are on the pill in similar proportions	[23:33]
BingoBoingo	As always a mix of things, but progesterone-only mixes are very popular.	[23:33]
trinque	probably even have a fancy govt thing to get it from	[23:33]
BingoBoingo	trinque: There's so many varieties of chemical called progesterone.	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	trinque actually abortion is illegal in argentina.	[23:33]
trinque	mircea_popescu: hah! I wouldn't have guessed	[23:34]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo afaik combos are still the bulk used everywhere.	[23:34]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: But progesterone only is "great for acne" hence exceedily popular in overweight America	[23:35]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1106020 << let the permanent record show permanently that i got started "programming" with cnc strange and motoman ladder logic	[23:35]
assbot	Logged on 22-04-2015 01:01:26; ascii_lander: (cnc is a fairly legit variant of what we understand as 'programming')	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	it's not, is it ?	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	anyway, afaik a typical pill is 0.050mg desogestrel (DSG) + 0.035mg etinilestradiol(EE) / 0.100mg DSG + 0.030mg EE / 0.150mg DSG + 0.030mg EE / dextrose.	[23:36]
ascii_lander	incidentally, is there a canonical mircea_popescu article re: the pill psycho-reversal thing ?	[23:36]
ascii_lander	or was that an al schwartz piece	[23:37]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Depends. When I was TA'ing pharm school there was noise that combo pills with estrogen included presented health risks in the form of exciting ER positive breast cancer and "blood clot promotion".	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander moar detail ?	[23:37]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: the mega-boojum of the bc pill	[23:37]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: recall the t-shirt study ?	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo afaik never really substantiated.	[23:37]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Never really substantiated yes, but 'Murican courts have a "chilling effect" so... progesterone only promoted under guise of acne control.	[23:38]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: the one where women in differing parts of cycle were attracted to proximate histocompatibility-pattern males (prefers 'related' during pregnancy) and distant mhc. during ovulation (prefers 'unrelated' to avoid recessive zap)	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	except it's not really very good. but w/e.	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander i think there was one, lettuce see	[23:39]
BingoBoingo	Eh, that's what the "Hope Clinic" is for	[23:39]
BingoBoingo	;;google hope clinic	[23:39]
gribble	Hope Clinic Home - Ypsilanti: ; The Hope Clinics - Seattle: ; HOPE Clinic - Houston:	[23:39]
BingoBoingo	;;google hope clinic granite city	[23:39]
gribble	The Hope Clinic for Women, Ltd.: ; Abortion Fees - The Hope Clinic for Women, Ltd.: ; Contact Us - The Hope Clinic for Women, Ltd.:	[23:39]
ascii_lander	and so basic pattern is, people marry, and it's time for the offspring, woman goes off the pill, and - zap. no more attraction to the male	[23:39]
ascii_lander	because they met while the mhc toggle was flipped.	[23:40]
*	assbot removes voice from ascii_lander	[23:40]
BingoBoingo	!up ascii_lander	[23:40]
*	assbot gives voice to ascii_lander	[23:40]
*	BingoBoingo personally never understood why implanon et al were never more popular than they are	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/ ?	[23:40]
assbot	That ain't the Maslow pyramid, yo! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY0XDO )	[23:41]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: quoted item applies to -all- hormonal bc mechanisms	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	ascii_lander tbh, that's drastically overstated.	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	the reason zap no more attraction is that people by and large suck, and you don't want to be stuck with them.	[23:41]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: if it were brick-in-the-face obvious, folks might notice.	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	and it'd appear everywhere except for portland, the cultural notion ofwhat marriage is pretty much is constructed so it won't work.	[23:42]
ascii_lander	just as if one cig gave you cancer next day	[23:42]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: Sure, addressing other positives... easy for partner to verify by light touch of the arm... extended cycle...	[23:42]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: verify?!	[23:42]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: Implanon and its ilk go into the subcutaneous fat. easily palpated	[23:42]
BingoBoingo	brb	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	btw, i was watching some derps getting in ben_vulpes' way at a milonga today, and omfg are the gringos ridiculous. i dunno if anyone here knows how to tango, but the idea is you drive the woman.	[23:43]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: are we also to propose verifying woman not stabbing you while you sleep? and if so, how ?	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	this dude was holding on to her arm like he was going to drown i nthe floor	[23:43]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: By waking with lack of new orfices	[23:43]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: point was, at some point you trust the parachute	[23:43]
*	SquirtPrincess has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[23:44]
BingoBoingo	Sure	[23:44]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: there is not a spare parachute for the spare parachute of the spare parachute.	[23:44]
ascii_lander	mircea_popescu: l0l	[23:45]
ascii_lander	and after mircea_popescu left, that dude drowned in the floor	[23:45]
ascii_lander	when the woman let go	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	what rly ?	[23:45]
ascii_lander	or perhaps he didn't. i didn't stick around long enough	[23:45]
ben_vulpes	and after ascii_lander left, ben_vulpes got intimidated off the floor	[23:45]
ascii_lander	can only suppose.	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes the advanced class started ?	[23:45]
ascii_lander	i went back to $lander to drown in floor there.	[23:45]
ascii_lander	sorta half way in now.	[23:45]
ben_vulpes	7pm "todos nieveles" is not 9pm "todos nieveles"	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	(ftr i was kind-of chuckling to myself the other day when you were derping about how you want to lead bla bla. you couldn't possibly have been that good, i thought.)	[23:46]
ben_vulpes	mwell imma take that as a compliement	[23:47]
ben_vulpes	compliment*	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	how ?	[23:48]
ben_vulpes	:(	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	awww!	[23:48]
ben_vulpes	[00:40] (no one owns anything, not even own pathetic carcass) << http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/LifeTrac there is yet hope	[23:49]
assbot	LifeTrac - Open Source Ecology ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY2wl7 )	[23:49]
ben_vulpes	leading is maybe a thing one is tuned for but it is not a thing one "does" without lots of work	[23:50]
ben_vulpes	maybe next year i go to the 9pm todos nieveles session	[23:50]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: Spare parachutes are always good, but some times you have to plan to win the game of civil court	[23:50]
*	pete_dushenski has quit ()	[23:51]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: 'the only winning move is not to play' (™) ® 'war games'	[23:51]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: Well next month I'll have a better idea if I was made to win criminal law. Still kinda perturbed recon_eric didn't try harder...	[23:51]
*	ascii_lander wonders how ben_vulpes could have been intimidated by those folks he was wiping the floor with	[23:51]
BingoBoingo	!up recon_eric	[23:52]
*	assbot gives voice to recon_eric	[23:52]
recon_eric	Guess I'd have to care more to try harder =P	[23:52]
recon_eric	I hated bullshit tasks like that	[23:52]
ben_vulpes	ascii_lander: mebbe i shoulda stuck around and been the derp in the room for the second session, but my sugar high from mister_p's icecreamstravaganza'd worn off at that point and all the phrienz had left	[23:53]
ben_vulpes	i'll probably do like 4 hours tomorrow night	[23:53]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: are you still parked near there, with the suitcase nuke ?	[23:53]
BingoBoingo	recon_eric: I could have probably saved 10-50k easily from your scamming childhood friend, but then again I may have had to pay taxes...	[23:53]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: roll in enough dough to take and run with	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	ascii_lander: did not actually carry nuke around today, just matching desert eagles	[23:54]
ascii_lander	aha	[23:54]
ascii_lander	so ben_vulpes is probably within 20 metres, l0l	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	myeah	[23:54]
*	assbot gives voice to williamdunne	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	hoping for a reasonable bedtime for once	[23:54]
ascii_lander	l0l sleep	[23:54]
ascii_lander	who sleeps.	[23:54]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: Wouldn't it have been grand to have the chance. 10-50k would have been so much rocket fuel on a Bingo-Budget	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	!h	[23:55]
assbot	http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot	[23:55]
williamdunne	!s cuckold	[23:55]
assbot	8 results for 'cuckold' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cuckold	[23:55]
recon_eric	Sorry BingoBoingo .... I hope he faces the consequences for his actions. He's still trying to scam more people = https://hashtalk.org/topic/36879/paybase-2/2	[23:55]
assbot	HashTalk - Ideas, Talk, and Hardware - Bitcoin & Scrypt Mining ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY3kXc )	[23:55]
ben_vulpes	!gettrust assbot williamdunne	[23:55]
assbot	Trust relationship from user assbot to user williamdunne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. \| http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/williamdunne \| http://w.b-a.link/user/williamdunne	[23:55]
williamdunne	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105412	[23:55]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 09:41:05; cazalla: williamdunne, maybe they touched swords long ago and recon_eric hoped by eating garza's shit on top of it, he'd keep quiet about that time they, you know, did their thing	[23:55]
ascii_lander	re: cuckolds:	[23:55]
williamdunne	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105416	[23:56]
assbot	Logged on 21-04-2015 09:44:07; cazalla: recon_eric, pretty sure garza was banging amber as well tbh, what with the constant text messages and shit	[23:56]
*	ascii_lander wonders who will be the first fella to get a 'dear john' telegram while at a trilema meetup	[23:56]
ben_vulpes	hey kakobrekla talk to mike and get the appropriate links dialed into assbot pwetty pwease? eg http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=williamdunne	[23:56]
assbot	WoT Trust - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY3wG3 )	[23:56]
BingoBoingo	recon_eric: Honestly holds as little interest of mine as a zoo animal. Josh is only interesting at the points where he almost touches real persons.	[23:56]
williamdunne	recon_eric: Thread might be worth reading that I linked	[23:57]
ascii_lander	BingoBoingo: imho garza et al are about as interesting as, e.g., buruli ulcer.	[23:57]
ascii_lander	which is to say very, if you're afflicted	[23:57]
ben_vulpes	ascii_lander, mircea_popescu: you know, wot solves the buenos aires black market labor problem too	[23:58]
ben_vulpes	i am probably late to this party as well	[23:58]
BingoBoingo	ascii_lander: Chives that escape containement do not mortally endanger yards in my care, but they interest me.	[23:59]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: i think he was looking for (or at least didactically portraying) conveyor men, not programmers.	[23:59]
ascii_lander	ben_vulpes: as i understand there are no programmers here	[23:59]
ascii_lander	we will have to learn new profession.	[23:59]

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