Forum logs for 20 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu davout:deterministic behaviour, too fucking mainstream <<< i didn't make the internets! [06:34]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/Ha8tKf4.gif << lol. [06:35]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03: (on another note: if mp's ego explodes, and no one is around to see it, did it really happen?) << i don't have an ego anymore. it couldn't keep up. [06:36]
mircea_popescu "I’ve been thinking about all the ways you could have found the necessary passwords to get into my computer and actually be using it overnight. None of them too easy. You put some pieces together in a pretty clever way and worked around my many accounts with 2fa." << 2fa works. [06:37]
mircea_popescu idjits. [06:37]
mircea_popescu "edit: Summary of lessons learned [06:38]
mircea_popescu Remote Control solfware (i.e. TeamViewer) does not belong on a computer where you may have browser windows open or important files." [06:38]
asciilifeform run moar winblows. [06:38]
mircea_popescu the only concerning point in all of this is that guy has a wife, and a house. [06:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57306 @ 0.00049186 = 28.1865 BTC [-] [06:42]
asciilifeform why concerning? that he was not darwined earlier ? [06:42]
mircea_popescu poor woman. [06:43]
kakobrekla ben_vulpes and whoever else cares i managed to get .7 unstuck from block 252450 with such DB_CONFIG; http://dpaste.com/25E0QVP.txt .. also it took a while. [06:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/11j4Qx2 ) [06:43]
mircea_popescu set_flags DB_LOG_AUTOREMOVE << wow that actually works ? [06:44]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: DB_LOG_AUTOREMOVE << aha [06:44]
mircea_popescu will wonders never cease. [06:44]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: but the $64k question is, didja have to restart the demon [06:44]
asciilifeform at all [06:44]
kakobrekla i dont think its db log autoremove, it was there before stuck [06:44]
asciilifeform because i did try the max_locks thing, to no avail [06:45]
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asciilifeform when mircea_popescu first suggested it [06:45]
mod6 nice kakobrekla [06:45]
kakobrekla what do you mean if i have to restart it, i have to restart it every 6 hours as it leaks blood [06:45]
asciilifeform lol aha [06:45]
asciilifeform there we go. [06:45]
mircea_popescu heh. [06:46]
kakobrekla what the problem, its automated! [06:46]
asciilifeform not fit for launching to orbit. [06:46]
asciilifeform (before you say 'ram quotas!', think about how well defined the behaviour of the moments prior to leak death is) [06:46]
kakobrekla its also true im running this on a 512 remote instance [06:47]
kakobrekla my net is poor here, waiting for an upgrade but im quite far from the central and its just so much they can do [06:48]
kakobrekla i guess i should run locally and force local network only or smth [06:49]
kakobrekla idk [06:49]
kakobrekla think about how well defined the behaviour of the moments prior to leak death is < not really [06:50]
asciilifeform at the risk of turning into naggum - must say, this actually matters. [06:51]
asciilifeform the general case. [06:51]
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asciilifeform of 'how well defined is $behavior-in-pathological-condition' [06:51]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/1Y/ZE/bLTXXcQ/memory.png [06:52]
asciilifeform for instance, what might actually happen when it gets a SIGKILL [06:52]
asciilifeform at -any- given point. [06:52]
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decimation asciilifeform: thus the need for a programming language that cares about such things [06:52]
kakobrekla when you see the green line at 1 gig is when i first tried mps suggestion i think [06:52]
kakobrekla last one or two rounds are with 40000 [06:53]
kakobrekla crossing the magick stuck block [06:53]
decimation asciilifeform: what do you think about the 'exception' mechanism in c++, python, etc? To me it seems like a hack to attempt to account for the shiftiness of system calls [06:54]
mod6 so first one was with locks=500000? [06:54]
asciilifeform decimation: anything short of cl's programmable condition system is retarded. [06:54]
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kakobrekla most probably all three spikes on daily are with 500000 [06:55]
kakobrekla at least two [06:55]
kakobrekla but i think the third was was 40k already [06:55]
asciilifeform decimation: i love it how retarded folks continue to pretend, 30 years later, that one cannot build a system where program is able to go back and correct the cause of an exception [06:56]
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mod6 ah, then the last one looks like it only spiked above .4G briefly. [06:56]
kakobrekla anyway i mapped the memory hole [06:56]
kakobrekla by making charts. [06:56]
asciilifeform if anyone wonders, incidentally, how long that kind of thing can go on - you have an answer. at least that long. [06:56]
decimation yeah, they seem like a good idea on the surface, until one realizes that it really saves no work over making a gigantic 'switch/case' statement [06:56]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ? :D [06:56]
decimation around every system call [06:57]
mircea_popescu !up gesella [06:57]
-assbot- You voiced gesella for 30 minutes. [06:57]
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asciilifeform (what kind of thing? this king - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#700916 ) [06:57]
assbot Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. [06:57]
asciilifeform *kind [06:57]
decimation speaking of which mircea_popescu: so you called it with the debian GR re: systemd, they 'voted' to make init scripts 'optional' [06:58]
mircea_popescu aha [06:58]
asciilifeform decimation: they actually voted for surrender to enemy [06:58]
mircea_popescu i was merely following the hints. [06:58]
asciilifeform because that is what 'meeting halfway' is. [06:58]
asciilifeform 'camel's nose' etc. [06:59]
asciilifeform achilles said to tortoise, let me stick the cock in halfway. [06:59]
asciilifeform and then again halfway. [06:59]
asciilifeform again. [06:59]
asciilifeform (recurse) [06:59]
decimation I don't blame redhat et.al., like larry ellison, they are just exploiting what they can exploit [07:00]
asciilifeform lest anyone think tortoise gets nothing from this deal - think again. he gets to derp in front of the other cartoon animals, that - even while his shell is bursting from megacock thrust - that nothing at all is happening [07:01]
asciilifeform because it isn't really in. [07:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00049175 = 13.6461 BTC [-] {2} [07:01]
asciilifeform or something like this. [07:01]
mircea_popescu well, in truth the entire "free software" thing was dead a while back. [07:01]
mircea_popescu so the remaining pretenders don't manage to cling on to the shoes of their forebears. this should be shocking or what ? [07:01]
decimation really, the 'free software' movement was a kind of reaction to microsoft overreach, which has largely splintered into a hundred different corporate factions [07:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm not altogether certain it was ever alive. [07:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aside from examples like 'emacs', most of what is actually useful in 'open source' was written in other times, other walls, pre-dating it [07:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it was alive at the time it made linux overnight. [07:03]
asciilifeform e.g. bsd [07:03]
decimation didn't linus say he probably wouldn't have done his thing if bsd was available? [07:03]
asciilifeform to the extent 'linux' was a clean-room riff on 'minix' - same deal [07:03]
asciilifeform not to mention the userland being there for the taking [07:04]
mircea_popescu is bitcoin going to be a "clean room riff" on core-derpage ? [07:04]
decimation everyone in the 'free software movement' was happy to allow redhat to take over everything important in userland [07:04]
decimation or at least, there wasn't much will to oppose [07:05]
decimation I suspect most folks thought they were getting 'free warez' [07:05]
asciilifeform one could dispute particulars, but the popular image of 'open source' where 'thousands of people' have meaningful contributions to a project - was always a hallucination. [07:06]
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mircea_popescu but this hallucination was alive at some point. [07:06]
mircea_popescu the hallucination that "people getting togheter" "solve problems" is also a recurrent mode of psychotic social behaviour. [07:07]
decimation asciilifeform: I suspect the same pattern one sees with bitcoind is common in free software, 'the ancients' (typically one elite guy) writes something useful, then shitgnomes dangle turds on it for decades [07:07]
decimation asciilifeform: have you ever had occasion to program test equipment that speaks gpib? [07:09]
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asciilifeform decimation: nope [07:11]
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asciilifeform decimation: although did once work in a lab where quite a few gadgets were using this classic link [07:11]
decimation it's like entering a time warp back to 1979 [07:12]
asciilifeform decimation: but i escaped having to program them. [07:12]
asciilifeform decimation: what of it. rs-232 is a 'time warp back to' 1962. [07:12]
asciilifeform and it will still be in use in 2062. [07:12]
decimation agreed [07:12]
decimation maybe rs-482 too [07:12]
decimation or something differential [07:13]
asciilifeform the basic signalling scheme, not the voltage levels necessarily [07:13]
decimation the latest hotness in fpga is to use a serial bus, after folks have lived in the ddr hell [07:13]
decimation jesd204 http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1279796 [07:14]
assbot What is JESD204 and why should we pay attention to it? | EE Times ... ( http://bit.ly/14OXcg3 ) [07:14]
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asciilifeform decimation: what joy. more proprietary crud that has to be on the die for fpga to talk to anything external. [07:14]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah or you can buy the ip core [07:14]
decimation for $$$ [07:15]
asciilifeform lol [07:15]
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decimation but yeah the number of onboard 'serdes' modules is becoming a big deal [07:15]
asciilifeform which makes the entire proposition of fpga a thinly-veiled scam [07:16]
asciilifeform since, idk, 2010 or so [07:16]
decimation heh yeah it really does [07:16]
decimation 'you can do anything that we allow in our walled garden, shitty tools and shitty errata!!" [07:16]
asciilifeform if you go and actually try to implement, e.g., ddr2 controller, using generic logic (yes, i did, and it fit) you quickly discover that it is useless. [07:16]
decimation I know folks who have done this, and suceeded, but it took many months of debugging and swearing [07:17]
asciilifeform because it uses the general-purpose routing fabric, and propagation delays eat you alive. [07:17]
asciilifeform if you grind away at it long enough, you can sometimes figure out the actual physical locations of things on the die [07:18]
asciilifeform generally, you'll have it figured out by the time... the chip goes out of print. [07:18]
decimation which results in shitty RTL code to program the thing [07:18]
decimation heh yeah [07:18]
asciilifeform this - is fpga 'in a page.' [07:18]
asciilifeform for n00bz. [07:18]
decimation which is why many folks don't even bother with fpga for small projects [07:18]
asciilifeform generally used when there is absolutely no alternative. [07:19]
decimation it's cheaper to run a full server than to pay for the engineering time to dick with the fpga [07:19]
decimation and if you are going to run something in huge quantities, might as well make asic [07:19]
mircea_popescu well its supposed to be a "prototype" [07:19]
mircea_popescu for the sort of people who are genuinely surprised that their thing even works. [07:20]
asciilifeform decimation: asic << and here's where the turdmeisters win. many 'asic' products on the market presently are actually 'hardcopy fpga' [07:20]
decimation heh yes [07:20]
asciilifeform e.g., xilinx wants you to prototype on their fpga, and then offers massively-discounted asic process which simply consists of their fpga die plus custom metallization layer. [07:20]
decimation including all the fpga bugs [07:21]
asciilifeform naturally you cough up royalties for their 'property' [07:21]
asciilifeform e.g., your ethernet card, ddr controller, whatever libs you had the misfortune to rely on [07:21]
asciilifeform incidentally, the last time i gave a damn (> 1yr ago) i learned that all the 'miner asic' products had been produced this way. [07:22]
decimation my understanding is tha altera is generally easier to deal with here, because they actually do their own r&d to produce these 'ip cores', whereas xilinx tends to contract it out - involving third parties in your product [07:22]
asciilifeform altera - same basic scam, ultimately. [07:22]
asciilifeform 'the air-seller.' [07:22]
decimation this is pretty much the business model for every 'fabless chip corp' [07:23]
decimation they all want to be the next qualcomm [07:23]
asciilifeform i'm not entirely certain that any piece of silicon that hit the market in the past half decade or so, is a 'real asic.' [07:24]
asciilifeform in this sense. [07:24]
decimation maybe intel or amd has an actual toolchain? [07:24]
asciilifeform i am told that each has a massive proprietary one [07:24]
asciilifeform but i would be greatly surprised if modern x86 dies did not have 'licensed' black boxes in them. [07:25]
asciilifeform as in, circuit that vendor did not look into and is in fact contractually obligated to at least pretend not to. [07:26]
decimation yeah [07:26]
decimation probably many of these 'black boxes' were developed by 'startups' funded by usg tax dollars through universities [07:26]
decimation to complete the circle [07:26]
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decimation http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/06/10/why-qualcomms-royalty-revenue-will-continue-to-decline/ << " Qualcomm’s royalty rate for LTE-only is about 125 basis points lower than for 3G. As the industry transitions from the 3G to 4G technology, Qualcomm’s average royalty rate will come under pressure." [07:27]
decimation the problem with 'taxing the wave of massive adoption' is that eventually when the wave passes on, one needs to ride the next wave to sustain all the fleas that have attached to the revenue cow [07:28]
mircea_popescu quite. [07:30]
asciilifeform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE-488#mediaviewer/File:HP7935_rear_HP-IB_port.jpg << i remember when a typical pc had this kind of beautifully painted steel chassis. [07:33]
assbot IEEE-488 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/14P1gwE ) [07:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51800 @ 0.00049118 = 25.4431 BTC [-] {2} [07:33]
decimation yeah I used to call it 'centronics' connectors, didn't realize their heritage [07:35]
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asciilifeform 488 was among the last of the standard buses intended to humour folks who want to build own hardware [07:36]
mircea_popescu davout: $10 well spent : poorchan.com << lawl [07:36]
asciilifeform (genuinely own, as in, ttl logic) [07:36]
asciilifeform one could sorta build own isa cards, yes [07:37]
asciilifeform (if you were good with, among other things, a jigsaw) [07:37]
decimation yeah I remember the old AT chassis, built like a peice of HP test equipment [07:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: i recounted various passages to pet, who cringed << specifically ? [07:38]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the piece where explains three basic types of eunuch op [07:39]
asciilifeform (iirc, 'cock snip', 'ball snip', 'full dulap') [07:40]
mircea_popescu lol [07:40]
asciilifeform plus elaborations of how the actual deed was done in various time & places (crushing, pulling, cutting, burning, etc) [07:42]
mircea_popescu https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/trilema.com << heh! wtf is this bizarro bs. [07:42]
assbot Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? ... ( http://bit.ly/14P2ZlE ) [07:42]
mircea_popescu meanwhilke "No Bad Glue Detected" etc. [07:43]
asciilifeform https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/loper-os.org [07:44]
assbot Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? ... ( http://bit.ly/14P3hZF ) [07:44]
asciilifeform ^ not 100 percent, either [07:44]
mircea_popescu ya but i mean... [07:44]
asciilifeform but far cry from this marvel. [07:44]
mircea_popescu why DOES IT TAKE SO LONG [07:44]
mircea_popescu who the fuck heard of this. [07:44]
asciilifeform ah you moved it didntcha. [07:45]
mircea_popescu nope. [07:46]
asciilifeform hm. [07:46]
mircea_popescu "Vitalik Buterin beat Mark Zuckerberg for the 2014 World Technology Network award in IT software. The award is presented for Buterin's role as co-creator and inventor of Ethereum which has yet to exist and co-founding Bitcoin Magazine. " [07:47]
mircea_popescu you have got to be kidding me ?! [07:47]
mircea_popescu this is a spoof, right ? [07:47]
asciilifeform 'Co-creator & inventor, Ethereum; Co-Founder, Bitcoin magazine (Toronto, Canada)' (from original source) [07:48]
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asciilifeform sadly, nothing there re: the 'yet to exist.' [07:48]
mircea_popescu fucking evil, this shit. [07:49]
mircea_popescu let's pick a derp with absolutely no merits to give the nobel prize to. [07:49]
asciilifeform check out the other nominees. [07:49]
mircea_popescu o wait, too late for that. [07:49]
mircea_popescu ;;google World Technology Network [07:49]
gribble The World Technology Network: ; 2014 World Technology Awards Finalists | The World Technology ...: ; [About The WTN] | The World Technology Network: [07:49]
mircea_popescu what, no wikipedia page ? [07:49]
mircea_popescu 2002 : Linus Torvalds, Creator, Linux [07:50]
mircea_popescu Corp : NTT DoCoMo, Inc. [07:50]
mircea_popescu yeah, makes total sense. buterin, the new torvalds [07:50]
mircea_popescu *boggle* [07:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0005011 = 8.4686 BTC [+] [07:52]
asciilifeform notice paul graham, elon musk, buncha minor catamites, in there. [07:52]
asciilifeform buterin is among his fellows. [07:52]
mircea_popescu they're really labouring hard to make sure they actualy get boiled in oil, these people. [07:52]
asciilifeform lol that was actually my first thought when saw. [07:53]
asciilifeform except it was impalement. [07:53]
decimation count dracula will not be pleased [07:53]
mircea_popescu guy has literally not done anything in his entire life. intern in a meanwhile bankrupt, never relevant trade mag. [07:54]
mircea_popescu and shill for a scam. [07:54]
asciilifeform at any rate, i'm unable to say when exactly we reached the point where 'the hunchback can only straighten in his grave' - but it was some years ago. [07:54]
mircea_popescu this is the sum total of a life wasted. what's to prize in there ? [07:54]
mircea_popescu what i don't understand is how people like linus don't just return the "award" [07:55]
decimation or never show up to accept it [07:55]
mircea_popescu back when the romanian president gave the star of romania to a bunch of dubious derps, five dozen or so various prior recipients returned them [07:56]
mircea_popescu o wait. there's not something to return, is there. [07:56]
asciilifeform mailed back medal, sure, anyone can. but what of the money. [07:56]
mircea_popescu i dunno that it actually comes with money. [07:56]
decimation mircea_popescu: could it be that your nameservers (ns7 and ns8) are also inaccessible, thus causing the 'dns outage'? [07:58]
mircea_popescu decimation it could be, except they don't see to be. [07:58]
decimation they timeout for me [07:59]
decimation apparently nobody believes in caching dns anymore [08:00]
mircea_popescu ^ [08:00]
mircea_popescu https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/trilema.com << and now i'ts perfect [08:01]
assbot Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? ... ( http://bit.ly/14P6qso ) [08:01]
mircea_popescu except for that one in bangkok, which i imagine si broken [08:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: grunt at ft. meade had to let go of the red button to light a cig [08:01]
mircea_popescu lol [08:01]
mircea_popescu i was thinking about this earlier. i wonder what % of times is a "matgic packet" router attack successful. [08:02]
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asciilifeform would depend on the particular magic, no ? [08:03]
asciilifeform and how many / what kinds of routing it survives. [08:03]
mircea_popescu yeah, just like the % of times a pickup line is successful depends on the pickup line. [08:03]
asciilifeform pickup may work on x% of woman; nerve gas - 100%. but notice most folks are interested in - pickup. [08:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00049889 = 10.327 BTC [-] {2} [08:05]
asciilifeform intelligence agency is (at least in times gone by) distinguishable from vandal. [08:05]
asciilifeform wants - particular router. [08:05]
asciilifeform not demolition derby. [08:05]
mircea_popescu you're stuck in the past, man. [08:05]
mircea_popescu "intelligence" in intelligence agency is like "technology" in world technology awards. [08:05]
asciilifeform well the thing about demolition derbies is that they are loudly, obscenely - public. [08:06]
mircea_popescu it's not like a particular tribe of idiots took over one particular aspect of society. [08:06]
mircea_popescu it's that the fucktarded women that are now in their 50s raised a generation of subhuman scum. and it's everywhere. [08:06]
asciilifeform well yes, at this point even the gnomes deep in the mines of moria - can see this. [08:07]
mircea_popescu i know of litthe more shameful than being one of the mothers of these people. [08:07]
mircea_popescu assbot: Democratic Caucus Angry Tammy Duckworth Denied Proxy Vote << jesus perfect storm. double amputee from iraq, pregnant ?! [08:09]
mircea_popescu but still, the lich woman has a point. it sez there, no proxy votes. [08:09]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/psa-if-youre-trying-to-escape-the-gravity-well-youll-meet-this-on-your-way/ [08:34]
assbot PSA : If you’re trying to escape the gravity well, you’ll meet this on your way. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/11EF9rE ) [08:34]
mircea_popescu lemme know if the idea is plainly stated and can be followed from the text or i need to explain it better. [08:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lol! what part of 'emigration' do people not get? [08:41]
asciilifeform leave behind reichsmarks in a bank, aha, yes. [08:41]
mircea_popescu they sent ~10k of those things in one bulk this month. [08:42]
asciilifeform barrel scrape. [08:42]
mircea_popescu monday the 3rd. they will prolly send another one, in dec. and so on. [08:42]
mircea_popescu well, no. i happen to think the us would be in a better shape if the whole thing sunk but those 10k were saved [08:42]
mircea_popescu than the reverse. [08:42]
asciilifeform nah barrel scrape from their pov. [08:43]
asciilifeform search for loose coins in sofa. [08:43]
mircea_popescu nah, it's not that. [08:43]
asciilifeform 'longcat is long,' insolvent empire is insolvent. [08:43]
mircea_popescu it's the leaks. [08:43]
mircea_popescu see, if your boat got a leak, and you plug it with 1 sq inch of wood, [08:43]
mircea_popescu while this is nothing compared to the bulk of the rest of the boat [08:43]
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mircea_popescu the effect has been to increase its life expectancy by degrees of magnitude. [08:44]
asciilifeform it'll be interesting to see phase 2 of this gambit [08:44]
mircea_popescu where do the traitors' dollars go ? to prop up russia, so it laughs at the embargo, right ? [08:44]
asciilifeform as in, where'll they put the fools who show up [08:44]
mircea_popescu to prop up argentina, so it doesn't care what the ny courts say [08:44]
mircea_popescu etc. [08:44]
mircea_popescu why put them anywhere ? [08:45]
asciilifeform well the 'come to mama' physical lure [08:45]
asciilifeform that, presumably, has a purpose? [08:45]
mircea_popescu i imagine they just won't extend their passports, if they try to leave again [08:45]
mircea_popescu you recall, that "irs wants to check your papers" thing added coupla years ago. [08:45]
mircea_popescu but until they do, they can go on about how "it's perfectly fine [08:46]
mircea_popescu maybe attract more idiots. [08:46]
mircea_popescu ;;google armistitiu moscopol [08:46]
gribble No matches found. [08:46]
mircea_popescu heh. [08:46]
asciilifeform iirc, the version of the statute that actually passed was '50k outstanding tax is grounds for cancel passport' [08:46]
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mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHU6YLC0RvE [08:46]
assbot FALSA AMNISTIE - JEAN MOSCOPOL - ANTICOMUNIST - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1qZocho ) [08:46]
asciilifeform now, it's abundantly clear that usd is on its way to 'zimbabwean', 'vanity' currency status like soviet ruble [08:49]
asciilifeform but not clear that the buggers actually care to detain the earthly carcasses of the owners, vs. just their holdings. [08:50]
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asciilifeform (for n00bs - a vanity-exchanged currency is approximately as useful outside of the border of demented issuing state as vegas poker chip is outside of vegas) [08:51]
mircea_popescu the idea being that since the owners care about their carcasses more than about their coins, keeping them in keeps the coins in. [08:54]
mircea_popescu its pretty sound. [08:54]
mircea_popescu spain allowed the jews to leave, and well... that was the end of it. [08:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, if 2015 is going to be the year to leave for its entire length, it's definitely the last one. [08:58]
asciilifeform next logical step, likely, is 'exit bond' [08:58]
asciilifeform sorta inverse of the 'prove you have enough to live on' demanded when entering certain countries [08:58]
mircea_popescu heh [08:58]
mircea_popescu and much like the very real bond to participate in the fake bitcoin auction they're holding, no "shares", no "bonds" and no other bs accepted. [08:59]
mircea_popescu gold dollars only. [08:59]
asciilifeform well, swift-wireable dollars. [08:59]
asciilifeform (notice no bags of benjies accepted either) [09:00]
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mircea_popescu oil dollars [09:01]
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asciilifeform at any rate, the reason there is not a pandaemonium of attempted republikflucht from usa, and corresponding whack-a-mole game by usg, is very simple - [09:03]
asciilifeform most folks here are as likely to escape as dolphin from national aquarium. [09:03]
asciilifeform and for same reason. [09:03]
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mircea_popescu this is not a game of mosts. [09:03]
asciilifeform in some ways it is. in that the serious mega-capital is likely already walking [09:05]
asciilifeform (who, precisely, will stop it ?) [09:05]
mircea_popescu nah. [09:06]
mircea_popescu megacapital is megastupid. [09:06]
mircea_popescu for one thing, they're generally old people. [09:06]
mircea_popescu for the other... old people. [09:06]
mircea_popescu i can find three new wives and learn a language before the month is out. your average "rich guy" is petrified of changing his colenostomy bag brand. [09:06]
mircea_popescu "what if!" [09:06]
asciilifeform lol [09:07]
mircea_popescu the rich jews were still trying to make deals with teh reich in 139 [09:07]
mircea_popescu 1939* [09:07]
mircea_popescu the rich senators were still buying armies in rome by 399. [09:07]
mircea_popescu none oif them went "fuck this shit, i'm moving to galia narbo and building a castle." [09:08]
asciilifeform and 45. [09:08]
asciilifeform note (generally omitted from schoolbook histories) the cost of a seat on schindler's train [09:08]
asciilifeform payable in diamonds [09:08]
mircea_popescu right. [09:08]
asciilifeform incidentally SOP mechanism for expedient coin-carcass separation. [09:08]
mircea_popescu the shitty film they made included all sorts of people that defo weren't there. [09:08]
mircea_popescu of course... in retrospect... srsly dude, diamonds ?! [09:09]
mircea_popescu bwaahah. [09:09]
mircea_popescu i mean i get it, they were going for bitcoin, which gold isn't. but still... lol. [09:09]
* asciilifeform cannot remember the source for this tidbit, will have to dig. probably ru. [09:10]
mircea_popescu it's not controversial. [09:11]
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asciilifeform (for n00bz: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2014#700889 ) [09:14]
assbot Logged on 03-06-2014 23:48:07; asciilifeform: however, the reason why it is customary to sit a captured wretch on an anthill, or the like, without first inquiring about his assets, is that in such a situation the definition of 'assets' expands to everything the victim could potentially beg/borrow/steal [09:14]
mircea_popescu lol google got 1e10 tld [09:16]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell davout looking into it. [18:22]
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pete_dushenski howdy! [18:43]
BingoBoingo Hello pete_dushenski [18:44]
pete_dushenski ;;isup qntra.net [18:44]
gribble qntra.net is up [18:44]
ben_vulpes https://web.archive.org/web/20070630074251/http://www.zenofeller.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1677&sid=2c5ed556886d6bfe4db5a2f1c9f8c867 [18:44]
assbot Xenophillia - The Making of a Game. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xWKTbR ) [18:44]
ben_vulpes talk about yer genesis block [18:44]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes lol [18:45]
pete_dushenski "I aim to make the most complex game I can still balance. This doesn't sound like an easy task, and it's more difficult than it sounds." [18:45]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo After Survery Vessenes' Foundation "Pivots" << no wai! [18:48]
BingoBoingo Ya Wai [18:48]
pete_dushenski less tawk more walk [18:48]
pete_dushenski or less tawk more hobble like a gibble [18:48]
mats_cd03 such eloquence [18:50]
pete_dushenski developer training and certification workshops << gotta prop up that profit when all the "i just wanna support the causers" are sucked dry [18:50]
mats_cd03 whatever happened to blogs.b-a.com? [18:51]
TomServo You mean assass.headfucking.net? :P [18:52]
TomServo I believe that was pankkake's - which he somewhat recently shutdown. [18:53]
pete_dushenski ya and peterl was working on a replacement but... [18:53]
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pete_dushenski it's still very on-again-off-again [18:53]
pete_dushenski or i should say that scoopbot is [18:53]
thestringpuller yea scoopbot doesn't always have the scoop [18:53]
pete_dushenski eg last two contravex articles. speaking of which! [18:54]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/18/what-happens-when-all-the-fish-are-gone/ [18:54]
assbot What Happens When All The Fish Are Gone? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1tl3gkH ) [18:54]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/19/dying-with-dignity-how-life-expectancy-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/ [18:54]
assbot Dying With Dignity: How Life Expectancy Isn’t What You Think It Is | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1tl3icc ) [18:54]
thestringpuller is this the point when the estate of dr. seuss shows up in channel? [18:56]
mats_cd03 o. well kako should update topic then [18:57]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller the estates of many of dead man would probably find contravex of interest [18:58]
pete_dushenski mats_cd03 guess so [18:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform diametric http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/ [18:59]
assbot The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1tl4tsf ) [18:59]
mircea_popescu mayhap the debian gr is wiser than us ? [18:59]
mircea_popescu ;;seen peterl [19:00]
gribble peterl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: Like you said, you can own a small piece, but nobody owns the whole thing [19:00]
pete_dushenski heya mircea_popescu [19:00]
mircea_popescu hey p. [19:00]
pete_dushenski it goes? [19:01]
mircea_popescu surely. [19:01]
pete_dushenski loverly :) [19:01]
mircea_popescu decimation: Google: "Q: who owns the internet? A: nobody" << fuck you << i imagine they're talking of the whole enchillada, as opposed to the parts thereof. [19:02]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Wow, there's a city actually named Moroni << iirc some prophet in john smith's braindamaged copy of yurp under his own "brand" [19:05]
mircea_popescu i always found that pretty amusing. [19:05]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: It sounds like scam, so should be qntra'd, but could probably benefit from someone more familiar with where the scam is here writing it up. << looking. [19:07]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: that's why I deferred writing it up. I'm not familiar with China-land too much. [19:07]
mircea_popescu they would be shifting their focus almost entirely towards the goal of funding "core development" << my translator comes up with "it's dead". [19:07]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the correct angle there is to compare to MMM [19:08]
mircea_popescu which is EXACTLY what happened there. [19:08]
thestringpuller MMM is funny as shit though. [19:09]
mircea_popescu shit not mmm. stock generation. the internet thing [19:09]
thestringpuller Reading about MMM was like reading about Action Park. [19:10]
thestringpuller Like something out of a cartoon. [19:10]
mircea_popescu myeah. [19:10]
thestringpuller ;;google Action Park [19:10]
gribble Action Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Action Park Mountain Creek, Vernon NJ | Water Parks in NJ: ; The dangerous return of the world's most insane theme park | New ...: [19:10]
mircea_popescu Company 9 was the "privileged" company, with its shares "guaranteed" never to decrease in value. Promised return was originally 10% a month (215% annually,) but was later reduced to 7% a month or 125% annually. In early April 2000, Stock Generation, despite all previous guarantees, devalued its privileged company shares to 5% of their previous value. [19:11]
mircea_popescu Companies 10 and 11 promised monthly returns of 50% and 100% (later 40% and 70%) respectively. At the same time, share prices could plummet 50% for company 10 and 100% (e.g. all the way down to 0) for company 11. That caveat (known as Rule 18) was another way for StockGeneration to justify their claims that this was a gambling website, rather than an investment vehicle. [19:11]
mircea_popescu that thing. [19:11]
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thestringpuller ponzi schemes will help destroy the financial system! [19:12]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: next week they will be back on coindesk with some new chumpatron <<< no, it gets better. next, they will be getting the congressional medal of honor, for "innovation" [19:12]
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kakobrekla so wai are we still on this planet? [19:13]
pete_dushenski "Canada reopened its 50-year bond maturing December 2064 Thursday and is expected to raise a minimum of 500 million Canadian dollars ($442 million)" << lelz [19:13]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla because you've not built the ship! [19:13]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Perhaps you would like to a your second piece for qntra. Stumbled into a US abuse of court thing with Kim Dotcom I'm writing up. [19:13]
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mircea_popescu no, because a spitting copy of that other kim is coming by to visit us in a little, and ima have my hands full [19:14]
BingoBoingo Ah [19:14]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you busy honey ? [19:14]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu not overly [19:15]
mircea_popescu so do the huobei vs stock generation piece ! for great justic [19:15]
mircea_popescu mebbe we get someone to translate it to chinese. [19:15]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: "hands full" << was that a pun? [19:15]
mircea_popescu myeah. [19:16]
thestringpuller fun fun fun! [19:16]
pete_dushenski lemme take a quick look at it... [19:17]
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pete_dushenski brb working on english version of huobi vs stockgen :) [19:26]
mircea_popescu :) [19:27]
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mircea_popescu little old me going through his logs, runs into a line [19:31]
mircea_popescu tcp 0 0 192.168.*:42230 ddos-server.intyl.b:www ESTABLISHED 1794/opera [19:31]
mircea_popescu nearly fucking falls over. [19:31]
thestringpuller whatever happened to that codinginmysleep guy [19:33]
mircea_popescu turns out RamNode had the cute idea of naming its stuff thusly. [19:33]
mircea_popescu and im really talking to my own site. [19:33]
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mircea_popescu 185.34.216.71 resolves to "ddos-server.intyl.biz". who the fuck came up with this idea i wish to know, and i further wish to know how many people reading logs got a start from it. [19:34]
mircea_popescu fucking trolls. [19:35]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller no idea, sorta faded off. [19:36]
kakobrekla lol mp hunting bitcoin-assets [19:41]
mircea_popescu lolwut ? [19:42]
kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/3BYA4SS.txt [19:42]
mircea_popescu status: NOHORROR [19:43]
kakobrekla :) [19:43]
mircea_popescu i predict we will see the day when that's what it's gonna say. [19:43]
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nubbins` thestringpuller dat missed delivery [19:49]
mircea_popescu mthreat anyway, not bad article. nothing incendiary, but hey. [19:55]
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-assbot- You voiced Xuthus for 30 minutes. [20:06]
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BingoBoingo !up hihowareyou [20:12]
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BingoBoingo http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-42-found-dead-bathtub-downtown-manhattan-article-1.2015955 << Accident file [20:16]
assbot New York banker, 42, slashed throat during bender: sources - NY Daily News ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXNKj7 ) [20:16]
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nubbins` "banker drowns self by holding head underwater in tub" [20:16]
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pete_dushenski BingoBoingo mircea_popescu cazalla http://pastebin.com/3BZXpunJ [20:18]
assbot Title: Huobi Reboots Stock Generation-Style Ponzi Scheme Earlier this week it - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXOm8h ) [20:18]
pete_dushenski http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-german-bunker-gallery/29/?mb=out << "even though they're using cyrillic text on their signs and we can't read it, it's a GERMAN bunker!" [20:22]
assbot They Stumbled Across This In The Woods... Beneath It Was A Terrifyingly Awesome Secret. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xWYNuD ) [20:23]
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pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/antidemblog/status/534219440842223616 [20:26]
assbot http://t.co/iVNtPHvMJa [20:26]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/huobi-reboots-stock-generation-style-ponzi-scheme/ << pete_dushenski [20:27]
assbot Huobi Reboots Stock Generation-Style Ponzi Scheme | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xWZtAd ) [20:27]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo qntra should use its favicon on its twitter profile [20:27]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: The Favicon artwork doesn't look great at avatar resolution, hence the bunny [20:28]
pete_dushenski lol just noticed the little fluffer [20:29]
pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/535499564548370432 [20:29]
assbot Huobi reboots Stock Generation-style ponzi scheme: http://t.co/YVFwVNmvmT My 3rd piece for /qntra! Trying not to make this a habit... [20:29]
pete_dushenski anyways, ima a be off. later cult! [20:30]
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asciilifeform 'german' bunker << first photo caption - 'controlled remotely' (not 'stay back') wtf [20:31]
nubbins` heh [20:33]
nubbins` wiring panel for the lift bridge just out of the frame [20:34]
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BingoBoingo !up trixisowned [20:45]
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BingoBoingo All three futures exchanges (OkCoin, Huobi, 796) use the same exact formula to get this "loss" calculation. [20:46]
BingoBoingo Maybe you should warn about ALL of the futures exchanges rather than portraying yourself as biased. [20:46]
trixisowned It's the truth [20:46]
trixisowned deal with it [20:46]
trixisowned bro [20:46]
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trixisowned ive noticed multiple people trying to portray huobi as the bad one [20:46]
trixisowned when ALL the futures exchanges [20:46]
trixisowned are doing the same shit [20:46]
BingoBoingo ^ Perhaps the case is that the model is broken, but Huobi is the one where problems have happened [20:46]
trixisowned are you being paid by OkCoin? [20:46]
trixisowned because thats how it comes off [20:46]
BingoBoingo Nope [20:46]
trixisowned on reddit [20:46]
trixisowned just saying [20:46]
kakobrekla !s tera self [20:47]
assbot 0 results for 'tera self' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tera+self [20:47]
kakobrekla eh [20:47]
BingoBoingo trixisowned: Where on reddit? [20:47]
trixisowned maybe it wasnt you [20:47]
trixisowned but this is the second "article" [20:47]
kakobrekla !s tera* self* [20:47]
assbot 1 results for 'tera* self*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tera%2A+self%2A [20:47]
trixisowned about how huobi has supposedly [20:47]
trixisowned ripped off users [20:47]
kakobrekla sorta on topic [20:47]
trixisowned and thats simply not true [20:47]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#866605 [20:47]
assbot Logged on 09-10-2014 19:56:44; kakobrekla: TeraExchange self certified their Bitcoin Non-Deliverable Forwards swaps contract and it is currently listed for trading. [20:47]
trixisowned hurp [20:47]
kakobrekla you know, they at least self certified [20:48]
BingoBoingo OkCoin prolly sucks [20:48]
kakobrekla like i self smarted myself [20:48]
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trixisowned ... [20:48]
trixisowned okcoin DOES suck [20:48]
trixisowned so does huobi [20:48]
trixisowned among all the exchanges [20:48]
trixisowned but your article [20:48]
trixisowned is portraying it as if [20:48]
trixisowned huobi is the bad guy and people will just go and shill off to okcoin [20:48]
trixisowned which is not the thing to do [20:48]
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trixisowned especially when the fucking okcoin shills are about pushing their "OKCOIN HAS NO FEES WHY DONT YOU TRADE THERE!" bullshit [20:49]
trixisowned just saying [20:49]
BingoBoingo I can not repair broken reading's of pete's article. [20:49]
trixisowned BingoBoingo, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mdtxl/huobi_takes_1271000_usd_from_users_profits_during/cm3ipmt?context=3 [20:49]
assbot trixisowned comments on Huobi takes $1,271,000 USD from users' profits during futures settlement. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xX2pg1 ) [20:49]
trixisowned er, thats a comment, but read the whole thread [20:50]
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trixisowned its basically a repeat of that whole fucking shill thread [20:50]
trixisowned made by r/bitcoinbravo [20:50]
trixisowned who is the CTO of OkCoin [20:50]
trixisowned http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mdtxl/huobi_takes_1271000_usd_from_users_profits_during/ [20:50]
assbot Huobi takes $1,271,000 USD from users' profits during futures settlement. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1xX2znE ) [20:50]
trixisowned http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mdtxl/huobi_takes_1271000_usd_from_users_profits_during/cm3nov3 [20:51]
trixisowned etc [20:51]
assbot Huobi takes $1,271,000 USD from users' profits during futures settlement. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1xX2Hnh ) [20:51]
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mwf22/huobi_reboots_stock_generationstyle_ponzi_scheme/ << Now there's a reddit to make sure the OKcoin model can be highlighted as broken too [20:52]
assbot Huobi Reboots Stock Generation-Style Ponzi Scheme, Is this possible with other BTC/Futures exchanges? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1xX2Jvt ) [20:52]
trixisowned There was no way to contact whoever made the post BingoBoingo [20:52]
trixisowned and there was no way to post a comment [20:52]
trixisowned so i pm'd you [20:52]
trixisowned :/ [20:52]
BingoBoingo Ah [20:52]
trixisowned your comment system is broken. [20:52]
BingoBoingo Comment system is broken how? [20:52]
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trixisowned [11:40:47] <
> ERROR: please fill the required fields (name, email). 		[20:53]
trixisowned even though i filled in both [20:53]
BingoBoingo Try again, might have triggered a false positive on one of tha spam prevention measures [20:55]
trixisowned eh im over it [20:59]
trixisowned :P [20:59]
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BingoBoingo Ciriticism of a thing is not an endorsement of its competitors [21:02]
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mircea_popescu New York banker, 42, slashed throat during bender: sources << lmao getting moar and moar believable. [22:18]
asciilifeform 'he ran into my knife. he ran into my knife - ten times!' - 'chicago' [22:18]
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mircea_popescu !up snee [22:20]
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mircea_popescu because thats how it comes off << are you silly ?! [22:20]
mircea_popescu the fact that a bunch of scams are a bunch of scams, from icbit onwards does not mean that pointing out one particular scam as a scam is "supporting the others". [22:21]
mircea_popescu this is glbse-think. [22:21]
mircea_popescu !up Molt [22:21]
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mircea_popescu There was no way to contact whoever made the post BingoBoingo << like http://qntra.net/contact/ ? [22:23]
assbot Contact | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1qBefvS ) [22:23]
mircea_popescu or you mean specifically pete ? [22:23]
mircea_popescu speaking of which [22:24]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski i hate your articlke, fwiw. broadly because it's a very lazy stitching together of unexplained quotes, narrowly because wtf, qntra now links to wikipedia ? splendid, we're building a total alternative over here. [22:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:25]
mircea_popescu this shit needs actual work. with the head. make a point, and make it interesting. [22:25]
mircea_popescu "The similarities between Huobi and Stock Generation are striking." << orly ? [22:25]
mircea_popescu show, don't tell. when you tell a) everyone knows you're lying, whethetr you are not not and b) nobody can be bothered to go look anymore. fucking show. always. [22:26]
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mircea_popescu s/not not/or not/ [22:26]
Pierre_Rochard If you’re done with Dushenski can I butt in and get my 2 mins of hate [22:26]
mircea_popescu shoot. [22:27]
Pierre_Rochard https://github.com/NakamotoInstitute/pacioli/blob/0.0.14/pacioli/treasury/treasury_utilities.py [22:27]
assbot pacioli/treasury_utilities.py at 0.0.14 · NakamotoInstitute/pacioli · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1qBfICz ) [22:27]
Pierre_Rochard how do you want your gpg-encrypted invoices formatted? [22:27]
Pierre_Rochard I remember you have an aversion to JSON so I shied away from that [22:27]
mircea_popescu -a [22:27]
mircea_popescu or what do you mean formatted ? [22:27]
Pierre_Rochard data = "document:sales_invoice, id:%s
" % invoice_id 		[22:27]
Pierre_Rochard data += "address:%s, amount:%s
" % (bitcoin_address, amount) 		[22:27]
mircea_popescu ah, any csv thing works. [22:28]
Pierre_Rochard I was thinking it should be both human readable and machine parsable [22:28]
mircea_popescu imo [22:28]
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Pierre_Rochard Ok, and the CSV text as a file attachment or as just plaintext in the email? [22:28]
mircea_popescu plaintext, armored. [22:28]
Pierre_Rochard got it [22:28]
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mircea_popescu scam [22:29]
mircea_popescu i was promised hate. [22:29]
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Pierre_Rochard haha, maybe when you test it out you’ll have some invective [22:29]
mircea_popescu or maybe i'll just have some apple pie instead! [22:30]
mircea_popescu re huobi and "exchanges" http://std3.ru/64/dd/1416432624-64dd7f82348c2acd46e41423331ab894.jpg [22:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1qBhjIs ) [22:31]
Pierre_Rochard apple pie <- that’s what I’m shooting for [22:31]
mircea_popescu btw, anyone read gustav fechner ? [22:35]
mircea_popescu physicist turned metaphysician under the guise of psychiatry. [22:36]
Molt lol [22:46]
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The20YearIRCloud Looks like we're in contract (RentalStarter) On property #12 now too. [22:49]
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jurov lol The20YearIRCloud you'll soon get sizable chunk of ohio [23:03]
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The20YearIRCloud the slummy parts at least [23:04]
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cazalla RE: huobi drama from earlier - i'm shitcanning pete's article on basis a) a post on reddit is rarely a reliable source b) i can't read chinese so it is difficult to confirm/verify what the links in the post on reddit claims [23:29]
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cazalla trixisowned, you could've gone about this in a better fashion and outlining one scam is not an endorsement of others, if anything, this speaks more to qntra's need for a chinese to english writer [23:30]
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thestringpuller got the poster nubbins [23:34]
thestringpuller nubbins` *** [23:34]
nubbins` ah [23:36]
nubbins` bout time :D [23:36]
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TomServo +mircea_popescu | show, don't tell. when you tell a) everyone knows you're lying, whethetr you are not not and b) nobody can be bothered to go look anymore. fucking show. always. << Wouldn't this also apply to your qntra article? [23:42]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/us-department-of-justice-kim-dotcom-cant-challenge-asset-forfiture/ [23:58]
assbot US Department of Justice: Kim Dotcom can't challenge asset forfiture | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xSZ8NQ ) [23:58]
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