Forum logs for 21 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mats_cd03 ;;ticker [01:14]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.1, Best ask: 355.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 355.09, 24 hour volume: 16517.18039886, 24 hour low: 351.8, 24 hour high: 381.8, 24 hour vwap: 363.832783744 [01:14]
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cazalla [01:42]
assbot Canadian Bankers Association On Bitcoin: "We're Not For It Or Against It" | ... ( ) [01:42]
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thestringpuller ;;seen diana_coman [01:46]
gribble diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 56 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader [01:46]
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BingoBoingo !up MissShibe [01:53]
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MissShibe Hi all, if anyone has lost money in Moolah / Cryptsy we are working on a class action lawsuit against Ryan Kennedy. [01:55]
MissShibe Send me a PM for more info [01:55]
BingoBoingo MissShibe When you want to contact press for announcements press is here [01:56]
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BingoBoingo << Legit money news outlet MissShibe [01:57]
assbot | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary ... ( ) [01:57]
MissShibe Oh, thanks [01:57]
undata MissShibe: hah, did cryptsy go down? [01:57]
BingoBoingo Home of hard hitting pieces like [01:57]
assbot mcxNow Says it is Becoming mtMOX | ... ( ) [01:57]
punkman Pierre_Rochard: I'd make format pluggable [01:58]
MissShibe undata, No, it's to do with Moolah and Syscoin [01:58]
BingoBoingo So when you want get to the point where you want to do interviews and such about lawsuit, there is scam hating journo outfit to go to [01:59]
MissShibe Great, I will let the organisers know! [01:59]
BingoBoingo Thanks [01:59]
MissShibe Just dropping by cryptocurrency channels looking for others who are interested in exploring legal action at this stage [02:00]
BingoBoingo Good luck [02:00]
Pierre_Rochard punkman: quick search for "pluggable format python" didn't turn anything up, please elaborate [02:01]
punkman Pierre_Rochard: well you know one guy wants JSON, other guy wants CSV, make it so it's not hard to use something other than the default [02:05]
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punkman Pierre_Rochard: I kinda like TOML [02:07]
Pierre_Rochard ah, I see, I'll add those options once I've shipped v0.1. Thank you for the idea [02:08]
Pierre_Rochard right now I'm setting it up so that other pacioli servers can import the invoices / purchase orders [02:10]
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punkman Pierre_Rochard: will probably need something like this at some point: [02:14]
assbot pluginloader 0.1.3 : Python Package Index ... ( ) [02:14]
Pierre_Rochard ah, yes, this will come in handy [02:15]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [02:18]
gribble Current Blocks: 330918 | Current Difficulty: 4.03000303278914E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 332639 | Next Difficulty In: 1721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 38887362841.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.50538 [02:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00041957 = 19.6359 BTC [-] {2} [02:31]
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xanthyos miss me? [02:37]
xanthyos i'm in extraordinary pain [02:37]
BingoBoingo xanthyos: Of course you were missed. [02:38]
xanthyos [02:38]
assbot ... ( ) [02:38]
xanthyos in case anyone thinks i was faking [02:38]
xanthyos still wearing my hosp bracelet [02:39]
xanthyos can't take the gauze off my cock until saturday [02:39]
xanthyos probably will be scarred for life [02:39]
BingoBoingo Hopefully it is a cool scar [02:39]
xanthyos the surgeon's name was Richard Frink [02:39]
xanthyos dickfrink [02:39]
xanthyos he frinked my dick [02:39]
BingoBoingo lol, fucking urologists have the punniest names [02:39]
xanthyos i have vicodin [02:39]
BingoBoingo You prolly need it [02:40]
xanthyos the dilaudid they shot me up with was amazing [02:40]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [02:40]
punkman how did you break the thing anyway? [02:40]
xanthyos i can see why people ruin their lives for heroin [02:40]
xanthyos i have an ocd ritual of bending it back to pop it so it relaxes because if i orgasm i have anxiety as an aftereffect [02:40]
xanthyos clearly it was not a sustainable solution;. [02:41]
BingoBoingo I got hit with the dilaudid during ball crisis this spring. [02:41]
xanthyos they made it like it was something to be embarassed over [02:41]
xanthyos but i'm owning it [02:41]
xanthyos << nice none of you neg rated me for my TMI [02:42]
assbot Rating Details for User 'xanthyos' ... ( ) [02:42]
BingoBoingo Why would you be negged for being open about a cock crisis? [02:42]
cazalla [02:43]
assbot Gavin Andresen: Core Development Has More Resources Than Ever! But We Can't Pay You | ... ( ) [02:43]
xanthyos because it's offtopic maybe, and speaks to my mental instability which could be seen as a reason to distrust, idk [02:43]
cazalla xanthyos, chicks dig scars.. why in pain though? i thought you guys can have as much oxy as one pleases there? [02:44]
xanthyos no [02:44]
BingoBoingo cazalla: That used to be the deal, but no more [02:44]
xanthyos i got 30 tablets of acetaminophen/oxy [02:44]
xanthyos 500 mg tylenol for 5 mg heroin [02:44]
xanthyos rough ratio, big pills [02:44]
cazalla xanthyos, share the love [02:44]
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punkman I had surgery to remove a tricky wisdom toothonce and they sent me on my way with 2 paracetamol tablets [02:46]
xanthyos are you in the uk? [02:46]
xanthyos the socialist NHS has to cut costs somewhere, eh? [02:47]
cazalla punkman, weird eh, a gp gave me oxy for a sore neck [02:47]
punkman nah not UK, some shithole in south-east europe [02:47]
xanthyos albania? [02:48]
punkman I scrounged up some paracetamol+codeine tablets, worked out ok [02:48]
cazalla xanthyos, don't be playing with it while it heals too, 10 years no sex, i imagine maybe you get a bit furious with it at times [02:48]
punkman but I expected a bit more after the fuckers drilled into my jaw-bone or whatever [02:48]
xanthyos i masturbate as infrequently as possible but when i go i empty the thing [02:49]
xanthyos usually 4 consecutive orgasms [02:49]
BingoBoingo qntra takes criticism better than Verizon [02:50]
assbot Verizon’s widely mocked tech news site hasn’t published anything in weeks | Ars Technica ... ( ) [02:50]
ben_vulpes i have an ocd ritual of bending it back to pop it [02:53]
* ben_vulpes flaps hands in distress [02:53]
punkman hah [02:53]
xanthyos i'v ebeen doing it for 20 years and never had a problem til now [02:53]
ben_vulpes cannot unthink that [02:53]
ben_vulpes bending it back to pop... [02:53]
ben_vulpes i don't even know what you're *describing* [02:53]
xanthyos it feels good but i don't recommend it now tht i'ave had this experince [02:53]
cazalla i still don't follow how you "bend" or "pop" it xanthyos, please to be making an instructional video [02:53]
xanthyos no [02:53]
xanthyos it's like a knuckle [02:54]
* ben_vulpes flaps more [02:54]
mod6 pop goes the weasel [02:54]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: It's actually a traditional think in Iran and Turkey. Also... Those regions lead the world in this sort of injury. [02:54]
xanthyos really? [02:54]
BingoBoingo Yeah [02:54]
cazalla maybe yours is different, i dunno, i don't think my cock is like my knuckles at all [02:54]
xanthyos the fucking MUSLIMS do it? [02:54]
xanthyos gross [02:54]
punkman dafuq [02:54]
ben_vulpes yeah [02:54]
mircea_popescu so here's a simple computing test for your platform. 1) open a 100mb text file. if your editor croaks, you're running windows. 2) go to the end and depress the pageup key. count to sixty / wait a full minute. depress the key. if the scroll stops immediately you are running good unix. if it keeps going... well... [02:54]
kakobrekla now that you cant bend to pop, mebbe you can pull to pop? [02:54]
BingoBoingo ;;google Taqaandan [02:55]
gribble Penile fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Findings | Harper's Magazine: ; Preventing penile fractures and Peyronie's disease - Los Angeles ...: [02:55]
xanthyos all the computers in the hospital were running windows [02:55]
kakobrekla actually there are several text editors for windows that eat 100mb file like nothing [02:55]
nubbins` gvim! [02:56]
xanthyos [02:56]
assbot ... ( ) [02:56]
nubbins` notepad++! [02:56]
xanthyos SFW^ [02:56]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla jus' sayin [02:56]
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ben_vulpes btw watched tinker tailor solider spy the other night [03:06]
ben_vulpes muchly enjoyable [03:06]
punkman playin with gpg sig combiner: [03:06]
assbot ... ( ) [03:06]
punkman .deed [03:06]
punkbot punkman: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. [03:06]
assbot ... ( ) [03:06]
punkman guess it works [03:07]
punkman just need to dearmor sigs, concatenate, armor again and it's good to go [03:08]
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ben_vulpes ;;google htop columns [03:14]
gribble Htop columns description | The sky's the limit: ; Ubuntu Manpage: htop - interactive process viewer: ; htop - Monitor Linux processes in real time (Real world Linux) - IBM: (1 more message) [03:14]
ben_vulpes wow i just briefly witnessed a server error in google [03:15]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: text editor experiment << when you build 'emacs', you can select 'use mmap for buffers' as a compile flag. [03:17]
asciilifeform iirc, this is (for some perverse reason) not default under linux. [03:17]
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mircea_popescu what does it use otherwise ? [03:21]
mircea_popescu systemd ? [03:21]
asciilifeform otherwise snarf the whole thing in [03:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00042897 = 5.5337 BTC [+] [03:24]
mircea_popescu even so you know ? [03:24]
mircea_popescu 1% of avail memory, since when is that a problem [03:24]
asciilifeform since braindead allocators [03:25]
mircea_popescu kinda my point. [03:25]
mircea_popescu i'm not arguing something like "o, you know, there's no way around it". more like, "why the fuck should finding ways around it even be a consideration at all" [03:25]
asciilifeform starts out with innocent symptoms like this, end up like yours truly, ranting at hapless strangers about trinary logic made of muller's gates. [03:26]
mircea_popescu lol. i dun care how they implement it. [03:27]
asciilifeform sometimes, however, the gizmo cares how implemented. (consider the case of the airplane, which stubbornly resisted being powered by steam engine on account of the latter's poor power-to-mass ratio. etc) [03:30]
asciilifeform (exercise for student. can you posit a planet such that steam airplane - using reciprocating engine - functions there? gravity must be less than ours, but atmosphere dense enough to create lift at achievable speeds and propeller thrust) [03:32]
asciilifeform ^ nasty multivariable boojum [03:33]
mircea_popescu actually no, that planet does not exist. [03:33]
mircea_popescu do the energy calculation, friction vs lift. [03:34]
asciilifeform that's the answer i got, when this puzzle was given to me, yes [03:34]
asciilifeform but why spoil for n00bz [03:34]
mircea_popescu there's a limit to the smallest energy density that can fly, period, no matter any other considerations [03:34]
mircea_popescu well, what is this if not the intellectual rape channel ? that's what we do, we spoil noobs. [03:35]
asciilifeform l0l n00bz should sweat a bit, build muscle. [03:35]
* asciilifeform imagines that someone, somewhere, actually attempts his puzzles [03:35]
mircea_popescu (people that object readily to "oh but comets can fly and no engine there" be confused as to what "energy density" means. calculate v**2 for comet) [03:36]
asciilifeform well, for some value of 'fly' that is not simply an orbit [03:36]
mircea_popescu no, that's what i mean. for fly period. [03:36]
asciilifeform aha if you count kinetic e, trivially true [03:37]
asciilifeform by definition, lol [03:37]
mircea_popescu course you do [03:37]
mircea_popescu exactly :) [03:37]
* mircea_popescu is a fundamentals man. [03:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu never leaves dynamite at home when going fishing [03:37]
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mircea_popescu if you can fuck her with the cock, why use your finger ? [03:38]
mircea_popescu at least, that's what i feel about it. [03:38]
asciilifeform valid approach. [03:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but in the same vein of "hard problems, if you're new here", you know the two trains and fly one im sure [03:39]
mircea_popescu actually iirc it was stated here, mebbe last year. [03:39]
asciilifeform !s trains fly [03:40]
assbot 0 results for 'trains fly' : [03:40]
mircea_popescu ugh. [03:40]
mircea_popescu well anyway : two trains moving on the same track leave simultaneously 29 miles apart, one doing 5mph the other 7mp. a fly caugh between them flies straight until it reaches a train then turns back and recurses, doing 9mph. [03:41]
mircea_popescu calculate total fly flown distance. [03:41]
mircea_popescu or we, 11 instead of 9, so it's prime too. [03:41]
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punkman I heard an underwater dynamite explosion while diving once, almost shat myself [03:43]
asciilifeform distance flown == time to collision x fly speed. [03:43]
asciilifeform how else. [03:44]
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mircea_popescu you could integrate it. [03:46]
asciilifeform but no reason to. [03:46]
mircea_popescu well there's no reason not to count e's either [03:46]
asciilifeform lol [03:46]
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mircea_popescu :) [03:46]
mircea_popescu anyway, where i'm from it's traditionally given to 15-16yos taking their first year of analysis [03:47]
mircea_popescu so teachers can laugh at dumb fucking kids entrhalled with their new magic [03:47]
cazalla can someone load a post on their mobile and see if there is a big white gap between navbar and the post itself? [03:47]
mircea_popescu "you don't have to make yourself magic pork and beans just because you have a magic wand you ninny" [03:47]
mircea_popescu cazalla ipad count ? [03:47]
asciilifeform variation on ancient olympiad problem. [03:47]
cazalla yes [03:47]
asciilifeform incidentally, classic: [03:48]
assbot ... ( ) [03:48]
cazalla mircea_popescu, does it look like this ? [03:48]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( ) [03:48]
asciilifeform ^ sorry no ascii version, maths puzzles [03:48]
mircea_popescu cazalla tis fine. flashing gif mebbe a little distraction [03:48]
mircea_popescu no. [03:48]
cazalla mircea_popescu, point of an advert yeah? [03:48]
mircea_popescu mebbe. arguably. [03:48]
cazalla mircea_popescu, load a post, not itself [03:48]
mircea_popescu ah [03:49]
mircea_popescu nope. [03:49]
cazalla maybe it's just related to the ipad 2 [03:49]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Maybe, Maybe ipad needs to go to chopshop to check for NSA? [03:50]
asciilifeform 'This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants during oral entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. These problems were designed to prevent Jewish people and other undesirables from getting a passing grade. Among problems that were used by the department to blackball unwanted candidate students, these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution [03:50]
asciilifeform that is difficult to find. Using problems with a simple solution protected the administration from extra complaints and appeals.' [03:50]
mircea_popescu i don't get it. orthodox russian kids did find it ? [03:51]
asciilifeform nah [03:51]
asciilifeform it was problems to -give- to folks you needed to kick [03:51]
mircea_popescu oh oh [03:51]
asciilifeform in final rounds of an olympiad, judges select problems for the players individually [03:51]
mircea_popescu bs. [03:51]
mircea_popescu in romania that'd have never flied. [03:51]
asciilifeform well, that particular one [03:51]
mircea_popescu lol myeah i guess. [03:52]
* asciilifeform was not in it, only knows from historical source [03:52]
cazalla mircea_popescu, you should've seen the huge ass banner BingoBoingo put up before we settled on the box on sidebar :P [03:52]
mircea_popescu anyway, VERY flashy is, in my humble and unexpert experience, counterproductive. so is very large. [03:52]
asciilifeform (for n00bz: in honest olympiad, the puzzles are either same for all players, or come out of a hat) [03:52]
mircea_popescu this isn't THAT bad on either score. [03:52]
cazalla mircea_popescu, we discussed using text links either above/below each article as well, thoughts? [03:53]
mircea_popescu kinda meh. [03:53]
mircea_popescu if people want links let them go the original route, do something newsworthy. have a designated pr liaison and there you go. [03:54]
cazalla that won't keep the advert current once new news is posted [03:55]
cazalla text idea is that above or below an article, you have perhaps - sponsored name - blah blah come play mega dice win mega coins [03:56]
cazalla rather than big ass banner at top of site, which we tried earlier [03:56]
cazalla or better yet, we just scrap adverts all together and do trilema credits model [03:57]
* BingoBoingo thinks for now flashing square is fine. Lets people know someone was brave enough to advertise. [03:58]
asciilifeform (the original 'jewish puzzles' article quoted in earlier link: ) [04:00]
assbot ... ( ) [04:00]
mircea_popescu cazalla i get the idea, but i dun see that it's such a good idea, either for us or for them [04:01]
mircea_popescu maybe credits, but imo much too soon for that. [04:01]
nubbins` "Construct (with ruler and compass) a square given one point from each side." [04:01]
mircea_popescu nubbins` aka, diameter [04:02]
mircea_popescu there are of course a bunch of iterative solutions to this problem, but that's "with computer" not ruler&compass. [04:02]
nubbins` "Suppose A, B, C and D denote the points on the sides of the square, in order. Connect A and C. Draw a perpendicular from B to the segment AC. Let point D0 lie on the perpendicular given that the distance BD0 is the same as the length of AC. Then D0 belongs to the same side (or extension of the side) of the square as D. See Figure 14. Once we know from DD0 how the square is oriented, the rest is easy." [04:05]
nubbins` o.O [04:05]
asciilifeform if you can't 'draw' it in your head after reading this - drink less. [04:06]
nubbins` clever [04:06]
mircea_popescu quite. [04:06]
asciilifeform all the linked puzzles have this property. [04:06]
asciilifeform hence why they are memorable. [04:06]
mircea_popescu of course they do select for the best quality in mathematicians [04:07]
asciilifeform aha. [04:07]
mircea_popescu which is, for lack of a different term, feminine guile. [04:07]
asciilifeform i prefer 'finesse' [04:07]
mircea_popescu as in pascal's esprit du finesse ? [04:07]
asciilifeform aha. [04:08]
mircea_popescu i dunno. shooting a deer with a single bullet is finesse. taming it is a different thing. [04:08]
asciilifeform taming - engineer. [04:08]
mircea_popescu im unconvinced. [04:08]
mircea_popescu "1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit." [04:09]
mircea_popescu how can you argue with that ? it's *exactly* what it is. [04:09]
asciilifeform finesse: convince deer to shoot himself in the head with one bullet. [04:09]
mircea_popescu not so. [04:09]
mircea_popescu finesse is the ability to make mayonaise by hand. a practice, anyone can be taught it. [04:09]
mircea_popescu but anyway, granted, the classical terminology is geometry & finesse. [04:10]
BingoBoingo Marketing though is making a hand with mayonaise [04:11]
nubbins` the invisible mayo [04:11]
mircea_popescu Différence entre l'esprit de géométrie et l'esprit de finesse. - En l'un, les principes sont palpables, mais éloignés de l'usage commun ; de sorte qu'on a peine à tourner la tête de ce côté-là, manque d'habitude : mais, pour peu qu'on l'y tourne, on voit les principes à plein; et il faudrait avoir tout à fait l'esprit faux pour mal raisonner sur des principes si gros qu'il est presque impossible qu'ils éch [04:11]
mircea_popescu appent. [04:11]
mircea_popescu Mais, dans l'esprit de finesse, les principes sont dans l'usage commun et devant les yeux de tout le monde. On n'a que faire de tourner la tête, ni de se faire violence; il n'est question que d'avoir bonne vue, mais il faut l'avoir bonne; car les principes sont si déliés et en si grand nombre, qu'il est presque impossible qu'il n'en échappe. Or, l'omission d'un principe mène à l'erreur; ainsi, il faut avoir la vu [04:11]
mircea_popescu e bien nette pour voir tous les principes, et ensuite l'esprit juste pour ne pas raisonner faussement sur des principes connus. [04:11]
mircea_popescu Tous les géomètres seraient donc fins s'ils avaient la vue bonne, car ils ne raisonnent pas faux sur les principes qu'ils connaissent; et les esprits fins seraient géomètres s'ils pouvaient plier leur vue vers les principes inaccoutumés de géométrie. [04:11]
mircea_popescu this is imo a major contribution to western thought. [04:13]
asciilifeform no shit. [04:13]
asciilifeform incidentally, imho one of the best ways to learn about the character of someone you recently met, is to watch him solve puzzle. [04:15]
mircea_popescu no shit & no homo! [04:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's why women invented dating. [04:15]
asciilifeform (or her!) [04:15]
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nubbins` american apparel products have a superior printing surface [04:37]
mircea_popescu i shall file this nugget away in my archives of data. [04:39]
nubbins` (translation: "this conversation is logged") [04:42]
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Vexual hi, how goes the traffic? [04:45]
mircea_popescu "Congratulation, Transfer $50,000 has been today transferred the account, attached is the transfer copy ( proof of payment) for your view." [04:46]
BingoBoingo Vexual: Was poor yesterday, prolly because DNS DDoS [04:46]
mircea_popescu shit, if only the transfer weren't a zipfile, i could be 50k richer [04:46]
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asciilifeform first national spam bank is best bank. [04:46]
mircea_popescu ugh, is quantcast down ? [04:46]
BingoBoingo [04:47]
BingoBoingo Quantcast is slow. [04:47]
mircea_popescu well... if they're slow altogether like serving the js that may also account. [04:47]
mircea_popescu anyway, check it out, 248k round! [04:47]
BingoBoingo Yeah, Top Quarter million bitches! [04:48]
mircea_popescu internet's 1%! [04:48]
nubbins` Vexual [04:49]
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Vexual did i read correctly qntra has actual income now? [05:01]
BingoBoingo Vexual: Not yet. We are playing with the idea of a single ad [05:02]
Vexual ah cool [05:03]
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mircea_popescu wait so it's free ? [05:04]
BingoBoingo Mostly to get an idea of what we find acceptable for ads, when we start getting solicitations for other ads [05:04]
decimation asciilifeform: did you see this: << not being a lisp guy, I find it mystifying [05:04]
assbot reproducible builds - a month ahead of schedule ... ( ) [05:04]
asciilifeform decimation: what's the mystery here? [05:05]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's a revenue share thing, dunno its been up long enough to get clicked yet [05:05]
Vexual quantcast says your traffic is largely wealthy educated asians, thats some quality traffic [05:05]
BingoBoingo I know. [05:05]
mircea_popescu Vexual and politically active, non partisan, mega rich mega educated folk. [05:05]
asciilifeform decimation: 'sbcl' is a compiler. (a very spiffy compiler, that you can generally use in precisely the same ways folks used primitive interpreter-only lisps, but still a compiler.) [05:06]
mircea_popescu it's pretty much distilled trendsetters over there, no hipsters allowed. [05:06]
asciilifeform quantcase << i always wondered, where do these figures come from? sheep entrails? [05:06]
asciilifeform *quantcast [05:06]
BingoBoingo Prolly. Maybe from reading Angry Ram's turds [05:06]
cazalla mircea_popescu: wait so it's free ? <<< lol yes, not a paid placement, this is more a test anyway [05:06]
mircea_popescu you buncha shrewed negotiators you :D [05:07]
BingoBoingo Oh, wait till the Minzors approach with offers [05:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i shall not dispute "statistics" that wildly favour my position. [05:07]
cazalla well, this is why i told Namworld to speak with you and that he did and was promptly sent back to me [05:07]
decimation yeah I get the fact that it is a compiler, but why would you want to use it to compile itself and then use the compiler to recreate the target lisp? [05:08]
cazalla the one advert makes it look like million dollar homepage so we may as well go full throttle now [05:08]
asciilifeform decimation: this was printed on the crate! determinism. [05:08]
mircea_popescu lol temperance my good man, is the whorish mother of all riches. [05:08]
asciilifeform decimation: also the argument that no programming system is really 'adult' unless it can swallow its own tail without gagging. [05:10]
decimation yeah this test automatically fails C and its descendants [05:11]
BingoBoingo Well, ad nao has more modest sidebar placement. Don't want to seem like too cheap a hooker when second potential advertiser wants to negotiate [05:11]
asciilifeform decimation: nah. very basic test. 'c' builds with self. [05:11]
decimation but can it synthesize c after compiling? I suppose it could [05:12]
asciilifeform decimation: this one wasn't self-comprehension or any 'fancy' magic of the sort. just elementary question of 'does x compiler build with self' [05:12]
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decimation ah okay, I was thinking the former [05:12]
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asciilifeform ;;isup [05:15]
gribble is up [05:15]
asciilifeform ;;isup down [05:15]
gribble down is up [05:15]
asciilifeform ^ [05:15]
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mircea_popescu lolsrsly ? [05:16]
decimation ;;isup what [05:17]
gribble what is up [05:17]
cazalla qntra down here for me too [05:17]
asciilifeform same. [05:17]
cazalla decimation, got any supdog? [05:17]
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decimation hehe [05:18]
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thestringpuller did qntra just go down? [05:22]
thestringpuller still up for me [05:22]
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mircea_popescu i see it too, who's to know. [05:23]
mircea_popescu !up alevin [05:23]
-assbot- You voiced alevin for 30 minutes. [05:23]
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decimation down for me [05:24]
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TomServo same here [05:25]
mircea_popescu TomServo decimation is this a matter of you not resolving the domain ? what's dig say ? [05:25]
punkman I lol'd [05:26]
decimation let me try [05:26]
TomServo resolves to [05:27]
decimation yeah resolves the same here [05:27]
mircea_popescu that'd be correct. hum. [05:27]
cazalla fuck it, i'm over it, gonna put a rabbit in the pan [05:27]
BingoBoingo Not the black one yet, May need more pics for Qntra branding [05:28]
mircea_popescu lol [05:28]
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BingoBoingo !up Vexual [05:30]
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BingoBoingo I mean look at that twitter avatar [05:31]
assbot Qntra (@qntra) | Twitter ... ( ) [05:31]
mircea_popescu well i dunno about you good folk, but various wp comment spammers still manage to dutifully connect, propose their post crud, get the required 500 and so on. [05:31]
BingoBoingo Yeah they do [05:31]
mircea_popescu lol location @la serenissima, nice [05:32]
mircea_popescu "The Bitcon Fundation cant pay for what it needs because it has 57.875 BTC left from 5,878.222 BTC raised." [05:32]
mircea_popescu ahahaha epic. [05:32]
asciilifeform nah, 5000 but reserved for coke. [05:33]
mircea_popescu "why mp keep saying vessenes be stealing!!!! mp is such bad!!!" [05:33]
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mircea_popescu "o noes vessenes stoled!! WHO COULD HAS PREDIKT!!!" [05:33]
mircea_popescu "clearly bitcoin needs moar technologiez! brb making shartup" [05:34]
mircea_popescu it gets so old this shit... [05:34]
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Vexual ;;seen jurov [05:35]
gribble jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 31 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: lol The20YearIRCloud you'll soon get sizable chunk of ohio [05:35]
Vexual sounds cokey [05:35]
mircea_popescu ;;isup [05:38]
gribble is up [05:38]
mircea_popescu well it's down for me, parallel universes. [05:38]
kakobrekla O_o [05:38]
mircea_popescu nao it loaded. [05:38]
kakobrekla didnt do anything [05:39]
BingoBoingo OMG NSA, let's burn the computers and teletype baudot on the 160 meter band [05:39]
mircea_popescu you winked didn'tcha ? [05:39]
kakobrekla no i was still O_O [05:39]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: got the poster nubbins << no fucking way, i had so much $$$ riding against this!11 [05:40]
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mircea_popescu *: TomServo ducks. << yes. [05:40]
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TomServo heh [05:41]
mircea_popescu otherthings would also apply, but that's aside. [05:41]
BingoBoingo !up RetroUpriser [05:41]
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mircea_popescu heh i mean "yes would apply". not that ducking's bad policy generally. [05:42]
mircea_popescu MissShibe: Hi all, if anyone has lost money in Moolah / Cryptsy we are working on a class action lawsuit against Ryan Kennedy. <<< because "class action" suits exist for the purpose of allowing a bunch of derps to not have to pay anything in civil claims against individuals now. [05:42]
mircea_popescu that's TOTALLY how that works. [05:43]
mircea_popescu "your honor, we seek class action status for our suit here" "who is the defendant ?" "some guy" [05:43]
mircea_popescu judge falls over. [05:43]
xanthyos ;;rate alevin 2 Known thorugh EFNet channels nearly a decade. "Seinfeld" expert. Buddhism aspirant. [05:44]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user alevin has been recorded. [05:44]
mircea_popescu there can be no other seinfeld expert! who is this challenger! [05:44]
Vexual hey, we got al jolson here! [05:44]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell missshibe hey, maybe instead of a class action suit against random bankrupt derp, you could organise a comet landing against him ? at least it'd be a novel novelty item... [05:45]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:45]
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Vexual what the fuck even is moolah? [05:45]
kakobrekla buddhism is scam wiht nice css [05:45]
asciilifeform moolah << chumpatronium [05:45]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla no it's not, i met tons of bangin' buddhist chicks. [05:45]
kakobrekla bangin. [05:45]
Vexual yeah, but you read the old languages [05:45]
mircea_popescu it's legit pizdolosophy. [05:45]
asciilifeform !b 1 [05:45]
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danielpbarron ;;rate alevin 2 boring mental case that fetishizes abstinence [05:46]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user alevin has been recorded. [05:46]
kakobrekla jesus is also scam [05:46]
kakobrekla but with poor css [05:46]
Vexual about this wide [05:47]
* kakobrekla ducks for the rocks [05:47]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Jesus wasn't a scam till Peter and Paul got into a fight over marketing and royalties. made good tables. [05:47]
BingoBoingo A++ Carpenter [05:47]
kakobrekla hehe [05:48]
mircea_popescu i hear his tables were leanin'. [05:48]
BingoBoingo Well, he had to break them in with Ms Magadaline [05:48]
mircea_popescu xanthyos: << dude got a decent beard. [05:49]
assbot ... ( ) [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00043 = 12.599 BTC [+] [05:49]
xanthyos thanks [05:51]
BingoBoingo So interesting advertising match made in hell I spotted on the interwebz. Gawker Media and Weatherby rifles. [05:51]
mircea_popescu ahahaah [05:51]
mircea_popescu punkman: nah not UK, some shithole in south-east europe << wait srsly ?! i always figured you for a brit. [05:52]
mircea_popescu what shithole, like bulgaria ? [05:52]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seriously behold the liberals shilling for botique rifle [05:54]
assbot The Simple Math of Why Smaller Bullets Are Deadlier ... ( ) [05:54]
punkman mircea_popescu: griechenland [05:54]
mircea_popescu *: ben_vulpes flaps more << i have nfi what he's on about either, if that helps anything. [05:54]
mircea_popescu punkman i thought greece was all cool and shit. [05:55]
punkman that was a long time ago [05:55]
* mircea_popescu has known 3 greek chicks. splendid butts, each of 'em. [05:56]
Vexual aesthetic skills never lost [05:56]
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BingoBoingo Greeks get their butts from Armenia [05:57]
mircea_popescu i thought turkey. [05:57]
Vexual calamari skills too [05:57]
mircea_popescu the turks reproduced through anal intercourse with their womenz for all of the renaissance [05:58]
mircea_popescu and so they... adapted ? [05:58]
asciilifeform 'a woman - for duty, a boy - for pleasure, but a melon - for ecstasy.' -- turkish proverb [05:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Turks got their butts from Armenia too, that's why they had to genocide the men [05:58]
* mircea_popescu has never had armenian butts. [05:58]
punkman poor armenians [05:59]
BingoBoingo Isn't that what Kim is [05:59]
mircea_popescu well yeah but how did i have kim. [05:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform wait, a melon what, stabbed threateningly ? [05:59]
decimation I got a qntra page with a link [05:59]
asciilifeform porked vigorously [05:59]
mircea_popescu what url were you loading ? [05:59]
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* asciilifeform wasn't there, did not see proverb in action [06:00]
decimation [06:00]
decimation the home page [06:00]
mircea_popescu o.O [06:00]
mircea_popescu THE DDOSER HAS BEEN FOUND [06:00]
decimation it could have been malformed I suppose [06:00]
decimation eh? [06:00]
mircea_popescu i bet you thought you were pretty smart didja! but your gig is up nao!! [06:00]
kakobrekla same here btw [06:01]
mircea_popescu i dunno dood, for some reason it thinks you're molesting it. [06:01]
kakobrekla i think it cached locally [06:01]
kakobrekla decimation try [06:01]
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assbot | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary ... ( ) [06:01]
decimation can't get there now [06:02]
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mircea_popescu i get what assbot said, [06:02]
decimation the only reason I noticed is because noscript fired off something [06:02]
assbot A Free* Bitcoin ATM Machine For Suitable Hosts | ... ( ) [06:02]
decimation yeah it is something in my browser cache [06:04]
decimation on one computer when I try to go to the "ABE" noscript warning pops up blocking a get to [06:04]
decimation instantly (from cache) [06:04]
decimation on another computer it just hangs [06:04]
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kakobrekla anyway /a works here [06:05]
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mircea_popescu decimation it redirects what it considers hostile traffix to [06:05]
mircea_popescu obviously it shouldn't trigger like that. [06:05]
decimation interesting [06:05]
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decimation ah now it just came up (/a) without the error [06:07]
decimation maybe I was hitting reload too many times [06:07]
mircea_popescu it's an approximation not a science this thing. [06:07]
decimation indeed. [06:08]
TomServo I'm getting it also. [06:08]
punkman I wonder if banning datacenter/cloud/etc IPs would work [06:08]
mircea_popescu anyway, typical usecase is : Host: / Http Code: 301 Date: Nov 20 23:05:07 Http Version: HTTP/1.1 Size in Bytes: 225 Referer: - Agent: WordPress/3.9.1;; verifying pingback from [06:08]
kakobrekla yes kako saves the day [06:08]
nubbins` sweet [06:08]
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nubbins` this is better than free condoms [06:09]
kakobrekla see ddoser now ddos /a [06:09]
kakobrekla dont worry idiot, we will just use /b [06:09]
mircea_popescu lmao wut ? [06:10]
* asciilifeform just lost all 4 ccfl tubes in favourite lcd [06:10]
asciilifeform ferfuckssake. [06:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform did you try to melon them ? [06:10]
decimation sucks [06:10]
nubbins` c'est un bummer [06:10]
asciilifeform if 8+ yrs of 14h/d burn is 'meloning' - yes. [06:10]
decimation replaces with high-intensity blue led, never sleep again [06:11]
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mircea_popescu decimation i had to tape over the fucking display lights on my ac here [06:11]
mircea_popescu because it's new, and these idiots with the leds are like out of fucking control in their quest for laser beams. [06:12]
decimation yeah I can 'see' blue leds through my closed eyes [06:12]
nubbins` ^ [06:12]
mircea_popescu it shone right through 3-4 layers of ductape [06:12]
decimation in the sense that they disturb my sleep [06:12]
nubbins` lose the quotes off the see [06:12]
BingoBoingo Blue light will make you go blind [06:12]
mircea_popescu eventually i taped a businesscard in there. 1/16th inch of cardboard did it. [06:12]
decimation there are many studies coming out that tend to point to blue light exposure as being really bad for sleep [06:12]
nubbins` i've got a small 12-channel mixer i use for live shows that I had to putty over the power led (blue) [06:12]
asciilifeform it being indicator for 'daylight' - yes, bad sleep [06:13]
nubbins` literally so bright you couldn't read the knobs on a dark stage [06:13]
thestringpuller lol nubbins` i'm framing your poster [06:13]
nubbins` atta boy [06:13]
nubbins` it's a special one [06:13]
thestringpuller special edition [06:13]
thestringpuller it has to flatten out first [06:13]
nubbins` no doubt [06:13]
thestringpuller good quality though. it'll go in the office [06:15]
mircea_popescu ;;google i am the great cornholio [06:15]
gribble "I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO!" - YouTube: ; Beavis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Urban Dictionary: cornholio: [06:15]
mircea_popescu somehow never gets old. [06:15]
thestringpuller YES!!!!!!!!!! [06:15]
thestringpuller Gimme t-p for my bungholio [06:15]
thestringpuller never would take you for a beavis and butthead fan mircea_popescu [06:16]
mircea_popescu why not ? [06:16]
asciilifeform << upper right hand corner - gone. [06:16]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( ) [06:16]
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asciilifeform and it'll be a bitch to swap. like disassembling a pipe organ. [06:17]
mod6 let's go over to stewert's houes and break stuff [06:17]
thestringpuller ^^^ [06:17]
thestringpuller todd is so cool! [06:18]
decimation asciilifeform: replace with trinitron! [06:18]
mircea_popescu one day termites came to asciilifeform's house [06:18]
mircea_popescu but then they gazed upon his great architectural achievements [06:18]
mircea_popescu and left in shame. [06:18]
asciilifeform decimation: i'd love to replace all 4 with trinitrons. but gave up after the umpteenth 'yes i promise it isn't burnt' and faded tube. [06:18]
decimation heh yeah [06:18]
asciilifeform decimation: virginal trinitrons may be extinct. [06:18]
decimation I dumped my mostly burnt one in the local dump years ago [06:18]
kakobrekla i gave away mine. [06:19]
kakobrekla was still ok [06:19]
mircea_popescu punishment for your soul ? [06:19]
kakobrekla me? i did worse things. [06:19]
* asciilifeform just dug out a 'radiforce g21' from emergency stash, but fears it may be too heavy for the hoist [06:20]
asciilifeform !up Vexual [06:20]
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mircea_popescu [06:20]
assbot Cyber-Butt - YouTube ... ( ) [06:20]
mircea_popescu clearly, mike judge invented buttcoins. [06:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.09 = 1.26 BTC [-] [06:22]
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decimation asciilifeform: you should buy a stack of plasma displays [06:22]
decimation if they even make them anymore [06:22]
asciilifeform decimation: so it can fade in six months? yuck. [06:23]
mircea_popescu if you talk him into building his own vacuum tube i'm like negging you. [06:23]
decimation hehe [06:23]
decimation asciilifeform: today I was in usb driver hell, and then something occurred to me [06:24]
decimation are you going to pay the $5k fee for a vid/pid for cardano? [06:24]
asciilifeform phun phact. symbolics corp. had to contract to have tubes blown specially for lisp machine, as properly high-res crt was not available off the shelf [06:24]
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asciilifeform 1270x951, iirc. [06:26]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Samsung plasma monitors sold as TV's seem to have good longevity. Just need to sit at a distanc [06:26]
asciilifeform sold as tv -> triangular pixels -> yuck [06:26]
decimation I'm not sure they make plasma displays meant for computer [06:26]
asciilifeform decimation: 5k fee >> what do you think. [06:26]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah I know the answer I was just taunting you [06:27]
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decimation I think ftdi will give you a pid off of their vid if you use their chip [06:27]
asciilifeform decimation: what do you think the answer to that is. [06:27]
decimation would never use shitgnomery [06:28]
asciilifeform cardano vid/pid - user-configurable. put that in pipe & smoke it. [06:28]
decimation lol [06:28]
mircea_popescu ^ [06:28]
decimation Imma gonna use microsoft [06:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform we might get sued! [06:28]
xanthyos << it's not really the gif that's animated, it's your brain. [06:29]
Vexual im frightened of the filename [06:29]
asciilifeform user recommended to use vid from defunct co. [06:29]
asciilifeform or favourite chinese crapflash. [06:29]
decimation here's a shopping list [06:30]
assbot ... ( ) [06:30]
asciilifeform decimation: phun phact about that list. i've mailed them pid/vids from devices not seen therein (legit, golden toilets) and it was never included. [06:30]
decimation here's the official tollbooth [06:31]
assbot - Getting a Vendor ID ... ( ) [06:32]
decimation $5k one time, or for you today, $4k per year! [06:32]
cazalla mr rabbit in rabbit form do you see?! mr rabbit changing, reborn! do you see?! [06:32]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( ) [06:32]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( ) [06:32]
decimation asciilifeform: I wonder if the linux-usb guys only accept 'official' pids [06:32]
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asciilifeform decimation: official ? [06:33]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Ok, Mr Red Dragon [06:33]
decimation paid $5k [06:33]
asciilifeform decimation: ah but it was. [06:33]
cazalla BingoBoingo, i only wish i had tomatoes : [06:33]
asciilifeform decimation: just one not featured in the list, because afaik i was the first to ever plug the damn thing into a linux box [06:33]
asciilifeform and possibly no one has since. [06:33]
asciilifeform (device was a 'tecan evo 200') [06:34]
BingoBoingo cazalla: I kind of wish you would have cooked it in a little rabbit wheelchair like Phillip Seymore Hoffman [06:34]
decimation yeah, they probably just didn't believe you [06:34]
asciilifeform ;;google tecan evo 200 [06:34]
gribble Freedom EVO® - Tecan: ; Freedom EVO - Specifications - Tecan: ; Freedom EVO - Pictures - Tecan: [06:34]
decimation wireshark usb sniffing is very handy I've discovered as well [06:35]
asciilifeform aha. [06:35]
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* asciilifeform neglected to tell the surprising part of the dead lcd story - that replacing a side screen is a royal bitch on account of virtually all extant lcd being worthless in terms of poor vertical view angle tolerance [06:40]
punkman I want one of those square LCDs EIZO announced [06:42]
BingoBoingo Plasma [06:42]
punkman [06:42]
assbot Eizo's Square Shaped FlexScan EV2730Q Monitor Features a 1920x1920 Resolution | Maximum PC ... ( ) [06:42]
BingoBoingo Only 720p, but... move the wall back [06:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [-] [06:44]
BingoBoingo And yes, moving the wall further back is prolly more cost effective than finding an adequate monitor [06:45]
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assbot Hossein Derakhhshan (@h0d3r) | Twitter ... ( ) [06:47]
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decimation asciilifeform: is that why you flip them vertically (better horizontal view angle)? [06:48]
decimation BingoBoingo: I like the 1:1 aspect ratio [06:48]
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decimation I note that it is more popular on many tech forums to openly discuss ditching linux in favor of a 'unix' clone [06:51]
decimation for some reason no one brings up solaris very often [06:51]
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BingoBoingo Solaris intoduces hell often trying to hunt drivers for a civilian machine [06:57]
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devthedev I love this president [07:03]
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BingoBoingo lol [07:07]
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BingoBoingo So did he really say learn English and go to the back of the line? [07:08]
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asciilifeform is that why you flip them vertically << ideally they'd all be vertical. nothing to do with angle, you've the causality reversed. [07:11]
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decimation because vertical real estate is more useful than horizontal? [07:14]
asciilifeform aha. [07:15]
asciilifeform the array, naturally, is shaped a little like a titanic horizontal display (to match visual field of eyes) [07:16]
asciilifeform but you can't get the solid equivalent [07:16]
asciilifeform (not even for $maxint. where do you get bent display?) [07:16]
asciilifeform and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others. [07:17]
decimation tvs have terrible resolution [07:18]
decimation I use tv for computer display [07:18]
decimation but it's in the living room and is a media computer [07:18]
BingoBoingo [07:18]
assbot Officers again make arrests at protest outside Ferguson police HQ : News ... ( ) [07:18]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: TV has use cases [07:18]
asciilifeform not involving computer. [07:19]
asciilifeform or text [07:19]
punkman ;;google lg curved monitor [07:19]
gribble LG 34UC97-S: 34" Class 21:9 UltraWide™ WQHD IPS Curved LED ...: ; LG 34UC97-S 34" UltraWide QHD Curved LED Backlit LCD Monitor: ; LG 34UC97 34" Curved LCD Monitor - YouTube: [07:19]
asciilifeform yes, there was a time when we have 'commodore 64' or 'bk-0010' and tv out, and that was it. [07:19]
devthedev See everyone in a week [07:19]
mircea_popescu not since the z80 days anywya [07:19]
BingoBoingo devthedev: Where you headed, Cuba? [07:19]
devthedev [07:20]
assbot I'm taking pictures in some sweet places next week! [07:20]
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asciilifeform punkman: if that thing came in a double-height variant i'd buy [07:21]
BingoBoingo << latest on whether spark meets tinder [07:21]
assbot Ferguson officer's lawyer, union official, say AP story on grand jury confidence was misleading : News ... ( ) [07:21]
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asciilifeform except i'd probably end up throwing it through a wall on account of vibrating pixels [07:21]
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BingoBoingo devthedev: If you ever want practice killing people, Mexico is prolly the place to do it. Huge security issues, but they'll never mention it [07:22]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah most 'hdtv' 'monitors' use all kinds of downsampling/downconversion tricks [07:24]
asciilifeform afaik everything presently on the market, with exception of eizo's 'colour-edge' series, uses dithering. [07:25]
asciilifeform (vs. none whatsoever 6 yrs. ago!) [07:25]
asciilifeform iirc we spoke of this here at least once. [07:25]
BingoBoingo Plasma TV I think of considering this problem was acquired 8 years ago [07:25]
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asciilifeform fuck dithering hard, with red hot poker. [07:26]
* asciilifeform can see the led blinkers on cars in traffic, which 'no one can see', it's a torment [07:26]
BingoBoingo Eh, these candles warming the room dither [07:26]
asciilifeform the pulse flicker thereof, rather [07:26]
decimation dithering works great if you want to suppress spurs on an adc [07:26]
asciilifeform works great for folks who have properly slow retina [07:27]
BingoBoingo There are reasons I drink. [07:28]
* asciilifeform has somewhat perverse senses. for example, 'amazon kindle' is fairly loud to him when flipping pages. [07:28]
asciilifeform (model 'dx' with the rev. 2 black chassis, if anyone wants to compare notes) [07:29]
asciilifeform inductor hiss. [07:29]
decimation I definite hear something when I flip mine but I think I have the smaller model [07:32]
asciilifeform aha so not only me! [07:32]
BingoBoingo !up Vexual [07:32]
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BingoBoingo I think the efficent problem at the moment is that no one but foxconn makes anything anymore [07:33]
decimation inductor microphonics are the bane of anyone trying to make a very stable rf circuit [07:33]
BingoBoingo I listen to AM radio all of the time, but I'm still not sure I believe in stable RF circuits [07:38]
asciilifeform like 'stable' governments, or marriages, the stability spoken of here is comparative. [07:38]
Vexual I can see tailights flicker [07:39]
asciilifeform there we go. [07:39]
* asciilifeform not the only mutant! [07:39]
BingoBoingo [07:39]
assbot xkcd: AI-Box Experiment ... ( ) [07:39]
Vexual I also know when my favourite song is on the radio tho [07:39]
BingoBoingo Wait, are tail lights not supposed to flicker? [07:39]
decimation asciilifeform: have you ever had one of those occupational hearing tests? [07:39]
Vexual no, theyre not [07:40]
asciilifeform decimation: occupational, no, but did as a child. passed. [07:40]
asciilifeform afaik they're built to detect deaf folks, rather than insufficiently deaf [07:40]
decimation I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy [07:41]
mats_cd03 yes, they suck. i am partially deaf due to too many explosions without earpro [07:41]
BingoBoingo What's next? The power led on the laptop isn't supposed to blink at F2# [07:41]
mats_cd03 i can still hear the beeps ... of other participants, even. the test doesn't measure intensity afaik [07:42]
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mircea_popescu I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy <<< if breathing through your nose is noisy you should prolly have it fixed [07:44]
decimation yeah, actually I've been told I have a deviated septum [07:45]
decimation but the point is that apparently it sets a 'noise floor' for low lever signals [07:45]
Vexual do a beat box [07:45]
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Vexual when ledtailights flicker, you can almost see which way the calbing runs [07:48]
BingoBoingo !b 1 [07:49]
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Vexual audi and toyota use different drivers [07:50]
decimation some cars in the us have a 'flicker' mechanism built into the tail lights which I find highly annoying [07:51]
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Vexual i like my flasher under the dash [07:54]
Vexual that way i've got a story ready for when i get pulled over [07:54]
Vexual "yeah I know it's borked..." [07:56]
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Vexual 6v stuffs always blowing, it's the amplitude modulations, see? [07:57]
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Vexual sir, this is a prime mover. [07:57]
Vexual ciao [07:57]
Vexual *crunch* [07:58]
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Vexual must be the voltage regulator [08:02]
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mircea_popescu [08:04]
assbot The GUI, the twerk and the most valuable resource pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [08:04]
mircea_popescu you get to guess the op. [08:04]
asciilifeform l0l [08:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: nurse's article: << obligatory. vysotsky's 'doctor reanimator.' [08:13]
assbot ... ( ) [08:13]
mircea_popescu somehow not on [08:17]
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asciilifeform not 1 in 10 has a known english [08:18]
decimation Liberté, égalité, fraternité! [08:20]
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mircea_popescu lol [08:24]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'Girl under a train - they sometimes fumble, / She might cry hysterically, or no; / You can hear Reanimator mumble: / 'Please give up your ghost, my dearest, go!' / Lifetime as a cripple? Who will feed you? / Even could I do a bloody thing? / Tell me, dearest, who you think will need you, / Without legs, and without everything?' << approx. partial transl. [08:32]
mircea_popescu who fumbles and what's that mean ? [08:33]
mircea_popescu like, derpy chick falls by accident ? [08:33]
asciilifeform ehe [08:33]
asciilifeform or 'accident' [08:33]
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* asciilifeform might write a real translation if he were awake, sober, and anyone gave half a damn [08:34]
mircea_popescu actually 4 way amputee chicks is a shiockingly large fetish [08:34]
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asciilifeform 4 way plus their 'everything's? [08:35]
mircea_popescu [08:35]
assbot ... ( ) [08:35]
asciilifeform cock-arms ? [08:36]
asciilifeform (or just plain thalidomide ? experts, chime in) [08:36]
mircea_popescu that's the flipper arms thalidomide brought about [08:36]
asciilifeform aha, guessed as much [08:36]
mircea_popescu in other news, the chan4chan webiste donation address ? [08:37]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1KaHdHYgYUDUYuMYCXLu83gXuniZMiSMhb ... ( ) [08:37]
mircea_popescu collected 0.101 btc in its lifetime. all of which in 2013. [08:37]
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mircea_popescu < BingoBoingo it's spelled "forfeiture" you know. [10:25]
assbot US Department of Justice: Kim Dotcom can't challenge asset forfiture | ... ( ) [10:25]
mircea_popescu [10:27]
assbot Rapper Tiny Doo will go to trial, judge decides - KGTV ABC10 San Diego ... ( ) [10:27]
mircea_popescu "Though Duncan hasn't been tied to the shootings, prosecutors argued that he benefited from the shootings because his gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more albums." [10:28]
mircea_popescu this is so fucking out there.... [10:28]
mircea_popescu here's a thought : preet bharara benefited from the shootings, because HIS gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more whatever the fucks he's selling. [10:28]
mircea_popescu he should be in jail with duncan. [10:28]
mircea_popescu "We're not just talking about a CD of anything, of love songs. We're talking about a CD (cover) … there is a revolver with bullets," said Deputy District Attorney Anthony Campagna. [10:28]
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mircea_popescu in other news, qntra seems to look pretty good : [10:31]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, fixed typo so dw BingoBoingo [11:23]
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mircea_popescu coo [11:23]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform what about it ? [18:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wondered if actually 'news' or smoke. [18:56]
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mircea_popescu well, the embargo on russia is working [18:57]
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mircea_popescu on the eu. [18:57]
asciilifeform lol [18:57]
mircea_popescu no but im serious. [18:58]
* asciilifeform knows. or at least, observes ru press gloating [18:58]
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mircea_popescu the ru press aside, the english fuckwits are fucking incredible. [18:59]
mircea_popescu all autumn they spent in this "o noes, bombama put teh hurts on putin!111" [19:00]
mircea_popescu which, you know, back when putin was merely pissing in the guy's mouth at public meetings, hey, i guess it's what people do, make this type of false claims. [19:00]
mircea_popescu sports press fulla it, especially if you count wrestling as a sport. [19:00]
mircea_popescu but as soon as fucking novemver rolled around, it's not even winter yet, the eu is already soft like the average penis of the average european [19:01]
mircea_popescu them being on average 55 yo or some shit [19:01]
mircea_popescu and yet, nobody, and i mean NOBODY comes out with the fucking obvious. [19:01]
asciilifeform then, as in all cases, 'the obvious' will have to eat them for lunch. [19:02]
mircea_popescu what is wrong with these people! give them some technology award, this cultish idiocy is unheard of. [19:02]
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mircea_popescu you'd expect you know, as much as a "hey, maybe this embargo thing is actually fucking eu more than ru" [19:04]
mircea_popescu how, it boggles the mind. how is this not even entertained. [19:04]
mircea_popescu i mean these are all idiots with pretenses. they wear fucking suits and ties. [19:05]
mircea_popescu they keep supposed wives, have what they refer to as their children. [19:05]
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mircea_popescu why even bother with all the pretense ? if you're going to do THIS sort of thing, why even bother dress ? eat fucking roadkill, go around screaming and tossing garbage, what fucking difference does it make. [19:06]
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punkman girl worked hotel reception in the summer, all the russians were calling in saying they needed proof vacation was booked before embargo otherwise they weren't allowed to get on plane. [19:09]
mircea_popescu i suppose what im saying, in the end, is that i absolutely don't see any connection between the noises coming out of europe currently and the european tradition. [19:10]
mircea_popescu might as well be the greater congo masquerading as europe. [19:10]
mircea_popescu punkman duh. [19:10]
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mircea_popescu the eu just got proclaimed illegitimate wholesale o.O [19:13]
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mats_cd03 xanthyos: might wanna hold off in the event of waterfall following nov 28 [19:16]
punkman mats_cd03: black friday? [19:17]
mats_cd03 yeah. [19:17]
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mircea_popescu fwiw the november thing is mostly bull, esp in btc. [19:18]
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mircea_popescu buncha redditors get excited, make donations of fiddy picocents [19:19]
punkman always found these shops curious, trying to sell furs in a place that doesn't get cold [19:20]
assbot ... ( ) [19:20]
mircea_popescu davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast <<< well, mebbe their gfs. [19:20]
mircea_popescu punkman it's a luxury thing tho. [19:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, very nicely done shop. [19:21]
punkman there's a ton of these shops, wonder how many went under this year [19:21]
mircea_popescu half ? [19:21]
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BingoBoingo Tales of Jaundiced Pooh horror [19:22]
assbot Half Naked Winnie The Pooh Banned From Playground - Around the World News - Croatian Times Online News - English Newspaper ... ( ) [19:22]
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BingoBoingo One official is heard saying: "It doesn’t wear underpants because it doesn’t have a sex. It’s a hermaphrodite." [19:23]
punkman lol [19:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ? <<< because nl is not a fucking ally, and was not defeated in ww2. [19:23]
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BingoBoingo She said: "This is very disturbing but can you imagine! The author was over 60 and cut his [Pooh's] testicles off with a razor blade because he had a problem with his identity." [19:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00044479 = 15.4342 BTC [+] {2} [19:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nl is nato colony however [19:48]
mircea_popescu apparently not. [19:49]
asciilifeform << lol, nato has www games. [19:49]
assbot NATO Map Game ... ( ) [19:49]
asciilifeform somebody should 'helpfully' replace it with 'risk' [19:50]
mircea_popescu lol [19:51]
asciilifeform << mega-lol [19:51]
assbot NATO - News: Largest ever NATO cyber defence exercise gets underway, 18-Nov.-2014 ... ( ) [19:51]
asciilifeform whether nl is colony, they will know when they drill the bars, assuming they do. [19:52]
asciilifeform and assuming bars moved [19:53]
mircea_popescu bars moved, an' im sure they're drilling. [19:55]
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asciilifeform (via diametric) [20:01]
assbot Klikki Oy - WordPress 3 Persistent Script Injection ... ( ) [20:01]
punkman they still can't sanitize HTML? [20:04]
punkman ffs [20:04]
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mircea_popescu 3.x lol [20:06]
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punkman but not to worry! we can now push code to your WP installation at will! [20:06]
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mircea_popescu heh. also 3.x [20:07]
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BingoBoingo Is qntra a 500 internal server error for anyone else? [20:12]
BingoBoingo [20:12]
assbot 404 Not Found ... ( ) [20:12]
punkman that redirected me to http://go.away/ [20:13]
xanthyos yes [20:13]
punkman homepage worked though [20:13]
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TomServo both working here [20:13]
xanthyos dns fail [20:13]
xanthyos not 404 [20:13]
teward ^ [20:13]
mircea_popescu uh. [20:15]
mircea_popescu as per usual, i see all fine ? [20:15]
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BingoBoingo << Sometimes it works, other times this [20:18]
assbot dpaste: 1TR5XZ9 ... ( ) [20:18]
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mircea_popescu hm. [20:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well if nothing else that advisory thing is useful because it explais how to turn off the idiotic "html texturizing" wp been doing [20:22]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo are you actually seeing it with any sort of frequency ? or was transient ? [20:23]
BingoBoingo It happened a few times all right after making the latest post [20:23]
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mircea_popescu well say if you see more. [20:24]
BingoBoingo Will do [20:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00044624 = 23.7846 BTC [+] {2} [20:56]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [21:23]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 356.52, Best ask: 356.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 357.26, 24 hour volume: 15754.98265088, 24 hour low: 342.05, 24 hour high: 362.0, 24 hour vwap: 352.203846856 [21:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 1862 @ 0.00080029 = 1.4901 BTC [+] {6} [21:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00045087 = 27.3453 BTC [+] {2} [21:45]
asciilifeform << mega-lol from #b-wizzards [21:46]
assbot megalol - ... ( ) [21:46]
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asciilifeform ^ that channel appears to be besieged by obnoxious crackpots, and they're starting to talk of #b-a-esque voice controls [21:49]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform well if you're gonna copy something, gotta copy the lot neh ? [22:08]
asciilifeform leads to the question of - why the schism [22:09]
* asciilifeform doesn't know the story [22:09]
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mircea_popescu the idiots preexisted. we're the new thing here. [22:09]
mircea_popescu the skism is unavoidable : they don't fit here, and know they don't. they can't admit they're idiots, and so they';re stuck [22:09]
mircea_popescu copying the voice or w/e. [22:10]
asciilifeform 'wizards' is recent, but does contain several known hooligans, yes [22:10]
mircea_popescu i thought that's what you were asking about. [22:10]
* asciilifeform has been reading it, on and off, because there are two or three thinking folks in there who occasionally discuss maths/crypto [22:10]
* asciilifeform wondered why there, and not here [22:11]
asciilifeform kanzure, fluffypony, a few others i think [22:11]
asciilifeform *or rather, why they do it there vs here [22:13]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen kanzure [22:17]
gribble kanzure was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated? [22:17]
mircea_popescu mebbe it's context dependant. [22:17]
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BingoBoingo !up Stocker [22:21]
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Stocker thk [22:21]
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BingoBoingo So what brings you around these parts? [22:22]
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mircea_popescu who're you Stocker ? [22:24]
Stocker ? [22:25]
Stocker trader and you [22:25]
mircea_popescu same i guess. [22:25]
rithm i'm a part-time Stalker [22:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27090 @ 0.00044508 = 12.0572 BTC [-] [22:27]
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kanzure asciilifeform: because i don't want to setup a pgp user agent with my irc client [22:43]
mats_cd03 hardware assisted virtualization in AV software [22:44]
assbot Dropbox - zn_0x4 ... ( ) [22:44]
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BingoBoingo << Apparently traffic is not all DDoS and this chan [22:50]
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TomServo pretty cool. Anybody read his stuff? [22:52]
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BingoBoingo I haven't [22:57]
BingoBoingo Dunno who he is [22:57]
asciilifeform kanzure: afaik most of us here use hand-cranked pgp [22:58]
TomServo Well the name in the qntra post links to: [22:58]
punkman [22:58]
assbot Philip Mullan: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle ... ( ) [22:58]
assbot DGC Founder Discusses His New Book, The Digital Currency Challenge | DGC ... ( ) [22:58]
TomServo Assuming it's the same dude? idk. [22:58]
asciilifeform kanzure: (no irc client plugins or anything of the kind) [22:58]
punkman he used to run that DGC magazine [22:58]
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assbot SilentVault launches aiming to 'silence the blockchain' - DGC | DGC ... ( ) [23:02]
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kanzure asciilifeform: that sounds awful [23:03]
kanzure i'm not gonna sit around like a jackass sending signed messages to gribble all the time [23:03]
asciilifeform kanzure: it takes me all of 5 minutes to auth, and i do it every other week or so (when isp disconnects for a spell) [23:03]
TomServo it's really not a big deal. [23:03]
kanzure 5 minutes to auth? [23:03]
kanzure you have a very high tolerance [23:04]
asciilifeform 5 minutes max [23:04]
asciilifeform most of it spent with [censored] rather than on anything particular to 'gribble' [23:05]
asciilifeform any reasonable person keeps his key [censored] in [censored] [23:05]
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mircea_popescu kanzure generally the way i use it is hit a curl|gpg and feed it my pw [23:08]
assbot 404 Not Found ... ( ) [23:08]
mircea_popescu then paste the result. it's maybe 30 seconds. but yeah, i guess, a hassle. [23:08]
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mircea_popescu !up Molt [23:08]
-assbot- You voiced Molt for 30 minutes. [23:08]
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asciilifeform thing is, a fellow who doesn't 'believe in' or like pgp, and doesn't care for the guarantees proper use provides, can automate up to a hundred percent of the process [23:10]
asciilifeform but he should not be surprised later. [23:10]
mircea_popescu anyway, how did that theory go, it's a balancing act. [23:10]
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mircea_popescu but there's your answer at any rate : voice model chills speech. this includes some speech you didn't apparently want chilled. [23:10]
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asciilifeform hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help. [23:11]
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asciilifeform punkman: generally there is very little to be gained by telling other people anything re: where and how you keep your key. [23:12]
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mircea_popescu o look, there's a debate. [23:13]
assbot The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [23:13]
BingoBoingo Especially don't tell people where you keep your private key if it is derived from using an Iris scanner on your butthole [23:13]
asciilifeform 'what two men know - the sow knows' [23:14]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform some amount of free voice will help some cases. no amount will help all cases. [23:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00121203 = 1.212 BTC [+] {2} [23:15]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: [23:19]
assbot The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [23:19]
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mircea_popescu hm where's that discussion re labs and measurements and how things get accepted [23:22]
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asciilifeform !s eotvos [23:23]
assbot 8 results for 'eotvos' : [23:23]
asciilifeform there. [23:23]
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asciilifeform [23:27]
assbot Logged on 31-08-2014 02:17:56; assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom. [23:27]
asciilifeform ^ thread re: 'provenance' [23:27]
mats_cd03 [23:29]
assbot DOJ Tells Apple Kids Will Die Because of Their Encryption Stand | DSLReports, ISP Information ... ( ) [23:29]
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assbot The Simpsons - Helen Lovejoy - Think of the children - YouTube ... ( ) [23:32]
asciilifeform the apple et. al. 'born again in crypto' thing is cheap psyop. [23:33]
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assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [23:48]
assbot It's amazing how fast these weeks are moving now | Bingo Blog ... ( ) [23:48]
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rithm BingoBoingo possible run-on sentence: It's beautiful this thing barely old enough to squirm managing to commit forward locomotion under its own power [23:55]
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rithm not sure if one comma or two [23:55]
chetty [23:56]
assbot Now e-cigarettes can give you malware | Technology | The Guardian ... ( ) [23:56]
BingoBoingo fixed [23:57]
asciilifeform translation: 'please fear usb disks, not winblows, winblows is yer friend' [23:57]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu ya that article was embarassingly shitty [23:58]
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asciilifeform incidentally, the one type of winblows 0day that will remain in inexhaustible supply for so long as microshit remains a thing, is the usb drive 0day. [23:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform a very easy sell. [23:59]
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