Forum logs for 19 Nov 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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cazalla	nubbins`, could be worse, for example, forced to get up at predetermined time 5 days a week only to come home to same woman	[00:01]
nubbins`	the first half of that sounds like an unfettered nightmare	[00:01]
nubbins`	i guess the coming home part depends on how good you are at making important life decisions ;p	[00:02]
asciilifeform	cazalla: favourited the qntra article << how does that work ?	[00:03]
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cazalla	asciilifeform, my comment assumes reader has knowledge of twitter :P	[00:04]
asciilifeform	cazalla: i must confess that it remains mostly unknown to me.	[00:05]
cazalla	asciilifeform, it's their version of Facebook's Like	[00:05]
asciilifeform	cazalla: aha. guessed that some sort of proprietary bookmark crud was involved.	[00:06]
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undata	cazalla: it's awesome; they acknowledge they rely on you by complaining and deny it in the same breath	[00:18]
undata	responding to earlier laments	[00:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1037 @ 0.00119143 = 1.2355 BTC [-] {5}	[00:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00119104 = 1.191 BTC [-]	[00:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4668 @ 0.00073718 = 3.4412 BTC [-]	[00:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.09 = 2.25 BTC [-] {2}	[00:37]
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cazalla	http://qntra.net/2014/11/jim-robinson-tim-draper-confirmed-bidders-on-next-usms-bitcoin-auction/	[00:41]
assbot	Jim Robinson, Tim Draper Confirmed Bidders On Next USMS Bitcoin Auction \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykR73J )	[00:41]
cazalla	undata, they? i only have one, not as lucky as some	[00:41]
cazalla	!up PBMining	[00:44]
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PBMining	hello everyone, is anyone interested in Bitcoin cloud mining? we offer 5 year contracts at 0.0013 BTC / GHs, no maintenance fees	[00:45]
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cazalla	! PBMining	[00:45]
cazalla	!down PBMining	[00:46]
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cazalla	i didn't up you knowing you were going to promote that shit	[00:46]
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dub	lol	[00:55]
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asciilifeform	it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs << goldsmith's 'great u-turn' had a superb if very compact intro to this process: http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/28	[01:31]
assbot	The fall of the Roman Empire · Edward Goldsmith ... ( http://bit.ly/1tb3bjo )	[01:31]
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asciilifeform	'However, their voluntary exile was short-lived. This structureless mass of people was incapable of creating a city on the model of that which they had known. Consequently they returned to Rome and after many struggles established themselves as citizens of the Republic. If they were eventually enfranchised, it was that they had become culturally absorbed into Roman society, but for this to be possible the latte	[01:34]
asciilifeform	r had to undergo considerable modifications. It could, in fact, no longer remain a tribal city.'	[01:34]
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asciilifeform	#bitcoin-wizards << lol! usg has own #b-a now! 'with hookers, and blackjack!'	[01:43]
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asciilifeform	it is certainly worth reading the total log.	[01:48]
asciilifeform	many things to be learned, though probably not what the participants intended.	[01:48]
asciilifeform	such as, it turns out that shitgnomes are rather enamoured of 'mathematically provable security!!111!'	[01:48]
asciilifeform	which should suggest something to folks who are still 'on the fence' re: the concept.	[01:49]
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asciilifeform	and other gems:	[01:51]
asciilifeform	'hearn: well i assumed that too when the docs first leaked last year. i kept waiting for the slide shows about the compromised CA's.	[01:51]
asciilifeform	6:36 AM apparently either they don't exist or the journalists who were able to report on so much else somehow missed it	[01:51]
asciilifeform	6:36 AM it's rather surprising and counter-intuitive but it appears that (for now) the system is working as designed. or if there are compromises, they're so rare that they aren't worthy of mention in the NSA docs.'	[01:51]
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asciilifeform	( https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-10-01/?tz=America/Havana )	[01:53]
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asciilifeform	ever lift a stone in a garden and discover a hundred species crawling ?	[01:55]
asciilifeform	that there's - this.	[01:55]
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mats_cd03	such pregnant pauses, asciilifeform	[01:58]
mats_cd03	you have potential for the stage my man	[01:58]
asciilifeform	'petertodd jrayhawk: it's interesting how more than one tor dev I've spoken too firmly believes Werner Koch - gnupg maintainer - is a NSA/BND plant with the goal of ensuring gnupg remains unusable (e.g. strong opposition to any attempt to make it into a library)'	[01:58]
asciilifeform	(nov. 10)	[01:58]
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mod6	log format makes my eyes bleed	[02:15]
xanthyos	WHOAS	[02:15]
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mats_cd03	http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/families-of-victims-shot-137-times-to-get-3-million	[02:20]
assbot	Families of victims killed, shot at 137 times by Cleveland Police to get $3 million - newsnet5.com Cleveland ... ( http://bit.ly/1p0en75 )	[02:20]
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thestringpuller	;;isup qntra.net	[02:35]
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gribble	qntra.net is up	[02:35]
cazalla	down :	[02:35]
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kakobrekla	for 1h5m	[02:36]
kakobrekla	seems to be some NS issue	[02:36]
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nubbins`	<@assbot> Families of victims killed, shot at 137 times by Cleveland Police to get $3 million <<< dat ambiguous grammar	[02:47]
nubbins`	"Ruth strikes home run to win World Series"	[02:47]
nubbins`	"Police shoot families 137 times to get $3mm"	[02:48]
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nubbins`	block 188470 and counting. man, this slows down.	[02:51]
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mats_cd03	17:42:51 <+PBMining> hello everyone, is anyone interested in Bitcoin cloud mining? we offer 5 year contracts at 0.0013 BTC / GHs, no maintenance fees << best proposal yet. 5 years!	[02:59]
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mats_cd03	19:59:25 wanna ddos anybody? << a nice PM. whaddya all think? got any targets?	[03:04]
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mats_cd03	i wonder what tat wanted an army for...	[03:05]
cazalla	!up fivezerotwo	[03:09]
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asciilifeform	https://medium.com/stanford-select/keeping-secrets-84a7697bf89f	[03:09]
cazalla	morning, friend	[03:09]
assbot	Keeping Secrets — STANFORD magazine — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXTBqA )	[03:09]
asciilifeform	'How does he . . . can he, in fact, reestablish a sense of trust?' << lol!	[03:09]
fivezerotwo	morning! free ddos for everybody	[03:10]
fivezerotwo	special offer: cinnamon flavor	[03:12]
nubbins`	is it hot cinnamon or regular	[03:15]
cazalla	fivezerotwo, can you stop for 5 minutes so i can publish an article	[03:15]
nubbins`	i hate hot cinnamon	[03:15]
fivezerotwo	cazalla, that is the point of the ddos lol	[03:16]
cazalla	oh, i thought it was to stop others reading	[03:16]
nubbins`	yeah, me too	[03:16]
nubbins`	he can publish the article anywhere ;/	[03:16]
nubbins`	fivezerotwo what's your favourite type of cheese?	[03:17]
fivezerotwo	cheddar	[03:17]
nubbins`	mild, old, ...?	[03:17]
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fivezerotwo	how has qntra traffic been?	[03:18]
cazalla	fivezerotwo, see for yourself, https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net it's doing well	[03:18]
cazalla	it even mirrors the bitcoin chart for the past year	[03:18]
mats_cd03	i wonder how many bots contribute to those stats	[03:21]
fivezerotwo	bots don't run JS	[03:21]
cazalla	i don't think ddos is counted	[03:21]
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mats_cd03	o rite.	[03:21]
mike_c	some do. google bot runs JS.	[03:21]
mike_c	but i think it's smart enough not to trigger analytic scripts.	[03:22]
asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-09-26/?msg=22344014&page=1 << fascinating smoke&mirrors job. these jokers do their best to make 'remote attestation' sound appealing, and obscure the actual raison d'etre of the tech (boobytrap in your own silicon against you, owner, in any and all cases) by spinning it as 'forbidden by usg'	[03:23]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[03:23]
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fivezerotwo	quantcast finally loaded, heh	[03:24]
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asciilifeform	and...	[03:38]
asciilifeform	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone	[03:38]
assbot	Ukraine Admits Its Gold Is Gone: "There Is Almost No Gold Left In The Central Bank Vault" \| Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXYCiY )	[03:38]
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JorgePasada	Just trust us!	[03:38]
JorgePasada	No way we're lying	[03:38]
JorgePasada	All the shiny things are where they should be	[03:38]
asciilifeform	via mr. o: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/11/its-official-us-stole-ukraines-gold.html	[03:38]
assbot	ClubOrlov: It's official: US stole Ukraine's gold ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXYJLw )	[03:38]
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decimation	mircea_popescu: you make a good point re: plastic forks - generally in the us they are supplied with low quality food	[03:48]
decimation	although they have their uses at picnics, etc	[03:48]
decimation	asciilifeform: re: medium << usg had a point, now encryption is 'available'	[03:48]
decimation	as to whether anyone uses it properly is another point	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	decimation yeah, ok, but look at it. what do you do with the leftovers ? do you throw them out on the spot ?	[03:49]
decimation	sure	[03:49]
decimation	giant mountains of trash aren't my problem :)	[03:49]
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mircea_popescu	well see, this is part of what im talking about.	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	suppose you carried actual cutlery. you can carry it back the same way. many problems actually solved.	[03:50]
decimation	yes, and in fact I've done exactly that because it is rare to find properly sharpened knives in the us	[03:50]
cazalla	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone <<< today i learned australia has less gold than iraq	[03:50]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EY0gBh )	[03:50]
decimation	what about germany's 'gold'?	[03:51]
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*	asciilifeform is uncertain how anyone - who didn't personally steal it - can be certain who has 'the gold'	[03:51]
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cazalla	http://dpaste.com/0CWMF9X	[03:51]
assbot	dpaste: 0CWMF9X ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY0rwy )	[03:51]
asciilifeform	it isn't like there's an Au blockchain to at least give some idea of when it moves.	[03:52]
decimation	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-23/german-gold-stays-in-new-york-in-rebuff-to-euro-doubters.html << " “The Americans are taking good care of our gold,” Norbert Barthle, the budget spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democratic bloc in parliament, said in an interview. “Objectively, there’s absolutely no reason for mistrust.” " lol	[03:53]
assbot	German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg	[03:53]
asciilifeform	'the key thing is it's something you cant mitigate against' << lol, atomic bomb ?	[03:53]
asciilifeform	one for each.	[03:53]
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asciilifeform	(Au is a fascinatingly multi-layered bezzlecake. i.e., does your paper Au correspond to physical Au that you could redeem for? if so, what fraction? and if redeemed, how much tungsten in the bars? and if no tungsten, what will happen to you and your gold after it is known to be sitting in your pocket? etc)	[03:57]
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decimation	asciilifeform: I think the pros only accept bars they personally melt	[03:58]
*	asciilifeform was not there, didn't see it, and puts equally much faith in this claim as in everything else 'pro Au' folks say.	[03:58]
decimation	there are ultrasound devices too http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/applications/ut-testing-gold-bars/	[03:58]
assbot	Ultrasonic Testing of Gold Bars ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY1IDF )	[03:58]
nubbins`	occasionally people sell fake gold on the forums	[03:59]
decimation	asciilifeform: agreed. unfortunately, unlike the blockchain, very few have personally witnessed a real gold stash	[03:59]
asciilifeform	yes, this was discussed here. but whether they are actually used 'in anger', and what - if anything - is done to verify their function, is - afaik - unknown.	[03:59]
asciilifeform	thing is, the time to test Au is -before- paying for it	[04:00]
asciilifeform	which is, in most cases, impractical.	[04:00]
asciilifeform	for anything larger than a coin	[04:00]
decimation	at any rate, the biggest problem with hoarding gold is the fact that you really have no idea how big your enemy's hordes are	[04:00]
asciilifeform	problem for whom.	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg <<< well the problem there is that it;s damned hard to move something that doesn't exist.	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	pretty much the only thing it can do is stay where it "is"	[04:01]
asciilifeform	actually nothing is easier than 'moving' nonexisting object	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: agreed. unfortunately, unlike the blockchain, very few have personally witnessed a real gold stash << actually, romanian central bank holds ~112 tons currently, you can pay ~15 bucks and go on a tour	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	or at least you could, a few years back.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	(contrary to common belief, a ton of gold isn't that impressive a pile_	[04:02]
asciilifeform	r. nixon went on a tour of knox (afaik the only president since fdr.) he was, iirc, even permitted to... touch! a bar.	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	at any rate, the biggest problem with hoarding gold is the fact that you really have no idea how big your enemy's hordes are << actually, yes, the total gold on earth is known within reasonable precision. one of the few proper fields of statistics.	[04:03]
kakobrekla	at least as accurate as 'time till we run out of oil'	[04:04]
asciilifeform	1000kg of Au would fit in a large suitcase.	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla no, because oil is locally made. gold was not made on earth, nor by the sun.	[04:05]
asciilifeform	with the exception of neutron-bombardment product.	[04:05]
asciilifeform	(anyone crunch the 'fermi estimate' on it recently?)	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	right...	[04:06]
asciilifeform	the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks')	[04:06]
kakobrekla	nor by the sun. < sure about that? :)	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yep.	[04:07]
kakobrekla	so how then?	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	it's kinda funny, the ancients thougt the sun and gold are cosubstantial.	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	but in fact stuff past nickel/iron requires a supernva.	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	stuff above lead require a really huge one.	[04:07]
kakobrekla	sun is a star no?	[04:07]
kakobrekla	aha	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	the sun is pretty much the smalest star that'd run.	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	tihnk lawnmower engine.	[04:07]
kakobrekla	nah not that small	[04:07]
kakobrekla	but on the small part of scale yea	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	iirc the smallest star limit is 0.x sun sizes.	[04:08]
undata	meanwhile there are colossally bigger ones	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	otherwise you just get a jupiter, aka gas giant. not a star, but a planet.	[04:08]
kakobrekla	red dwarfs would be smaller afaik	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	red dwarves are end products	[04:08]
kakobrekla	of supernova? :)	[04:09]
JorgePasada	I saw this anamation of the lagrange points of Jupiter and how they drag asteroids around the sun with them. Pretty badass.	[04:09]
JorgePasada	don't think about that stuff too often, but that's what kept us alive all these years	[04:09]
kakobrekla	red dwarfs is as much as a star as sun is	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla not necessarily. here's the catch : they evolve slowly, and our models would require them to have no metals	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	maybe some trace li. yet all obseved ones have metals in them. so, must be end products of something else.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	unspecified what exactly.	[04:10]
kakobrekla	anyway still the measurements are moot	[04:11]
kakobrekla	a reasonably sized undiscovered gold meteorite would change this significantly ?	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	a pure gold meteorite is about as likely as a prostitute with a heart of gold	[04:12]
kakobrekla	so ?	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	not metaphorically. actual metallic gold.	[04:12]
undata	I was too slow to bash :(	[04:12]
kakobrekla	unlikley is also a block at 100 bn diff	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	not so. one's improbable, the other's unlikely.	[04:12]
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kakobrekla	whatever	[04:13]
kakobrekla	find the meteorite	[04:13]
decimation	the best place to find them is an ancient ice sheet	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	^	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	anyway, meteorites are mostly iron-nickel, much like the eart hand everying else in the solid range	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	this for the obvious reason.	[04:14]
kakobrekla	forget reality will ya	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	lol ok	[04:14]
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mircea_popescu	the lulz of all time, of course, is if someone finds a ten or fifty cubic kilometer solid gold meteorite in the ice sheet, however deep	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	and so they dig it out	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	and it turns out it's a ... tungsten rock, with a few milimeters of gold on top	[04:17]
JorgePasada	mircea_popescu: wolud be funny but physics wouldn't let that happen, at least no mix of physics I can think of	[04:18]
decimation	http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2014/10/geochemist-gets-view-center-earth	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	JorgePasada which is why it'd be the perfect argument for divine comedy.	[04:18]
assbot	Geochemist Gets View into Center of the Earth ... ( http://bit.ly/14Imigw )	[04:18]
JorgePasada	God does not cast dice, just... large metal rocks at the biosphere you're floating around in	[04:20]
danielpbarron	http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?danielpbarron << so this thing doesn't work anymore; did anyone else use it?	[04:20]
assbot	OTC events search ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY55KJ )	[04:20]
mats_cd03	21:04:31 <+asciilifeform> the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks') << what would be the purpose of this exercise?	[04:21]
asciilifeform	mats_cd03: what would be the purpose << left as exercise for alert reader	[04:22]
mats_cd03	i am dazed and unalert.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron hadn't been using it	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 he wants to klnow if original gold	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	or recently made	[04:22]
decimation	http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/536967/Labour-Yvette-Cooper-general-election-vow-toughen-immigration-rules <	[04:23]
assbot	Labour's Yvette Cooper's general election vow to toughen immigration rules \| UK \| News \| Daily Express ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY5tZJ )	[04:23]
decimation	you don't need a visa but the queen wouldn't mind a tenner	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	this trend where us folk are charged to leave their ghetto (pioneered by argentina, of all places) is going to only grow.	[04:23]
JorgePasada	Man, when I was in London this summer	[04:24]
JorgePasada	they were not happy with me	[04:24]
JorgePasada	on the way in	[04:24]
JorgePasada	flew one way	[04:24]
nubbins`	costs me at least a couple hundred to leave this island	[04:24]
JorgePasada	no return ticket	[04:24]
JorgePasada	"Where are you staying?" - 'I dunno'	[04:24]
nubbins`	^ pro traveller ;p	[04:24]
asciilifeform	'what time is your return flight?' 'dunno, umm, allah akbar'	[04:25]
JorgePasada	"What do you mean you don't know?" - 'I mean I'm going to a wedding and it's in 3 days and I have a phone and the internet'	[04:25]
decimation	"Shadow work and pensions secretary Rachel Reeves wants to extend the qualifying period for out of work benefits for EU migrants from three months. She also wants to ban child benefit and tax credits for families living abroad."	[04:25]
JorgePasada	"How do we know you won't stay here if you don't have a return ticket?" - 'For starters I can work from wherever I want and It's 3 times the cost of living here..."	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	JorgePasada me coming here, "where are you going to stay ?" "no idea" "you know i have to put something in the machine ?" "recomend a good hotel ?" "x" "wut ?" "X!" "write it down wouldja" guy gives me a postit. "ok, so that's where i'll be staying".	[04:25]
decimation	apparently if you camp for 3 months you deserve a pension	[04:25]
nubbins`	happened to me once: "so you flew to london for a day, spent a week in marrakech... then back to london for 12 hours, and now back to canada?" "ah... when you put it that way..."	[04:26]
JorgePasada	"Ok I'll let you in, even though I shouldn't. Don't come here again without a plan."	[04:26]
asciilifeform	!s papers please	[04:26]
assbot	9 results for 'papers please' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=papers+please	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	"fuck you, i do what i want?"	[04:26]
decimation	did you play ascii?	[04:26]
asciilifeform	nah just watched demo	[04:27]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOEt1fuukvk	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i still don't know why anyone in his right mind would go to that stinky, crowded, desperate shitstain of an island.	[04:27]
assbot	Let's Look At: Papers, Please (Beta) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY679K )	[04:27]
JorgePasada	I hardly know what I'm doing tomorrow when I'm in the country I live in	[04:27]
decimation	it's a good game	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	they can't cook, they can't fuck and they think they somehow matter.	[04:27]
JorgePasada	when I travel, everything is up in the air :-)	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	worst jamaica ever.	[04:27]
decimation	well, after 100 years of communism what do you expect	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	dude, i expect the world out of 100 years of communism.	[04:27]
asciilifeform	'airstrip one' !	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	you know the sort of blowjobs you'd get in moscow for a pair of jeans, cca 1993 ?	[04:28]
nubbins`	what sort	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	dja know how you'd distinguish the brothel and the campus housing in Krivoy Rog ?	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` the truely eager sort.	[04:28]
decimation	yeah, they had the kind of communism where there was plenty of cheap shit for the masses, without the upside desperation to motivate self improvement	[04:29]
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mircea_popescu	a lot of plastic spoons you mean ?	[04:29]
decimation	hehe yeah	[04:29]
decimation	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html	[04:30]
assbot	Family who are 'too fat to work' say £22,000 worth of benefits is not enough - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY6vFb )	[04:30]
ben_vulpes	!up PBMining << shockingly close to PMB.	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	anyway, yeah goldsmith. not a bad read.	[04:30]
*	asciilifeform has the dead tree, enjoyed it	[04:31]
decimation	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clause_IV	[04:31]
assbot	Clause IV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY6G3d )	[04:31]
*	asciilifeform found it in a dusty old rathole oldbookery next to his (argentinian!) mechanic's shop	[04:31]
ben_vulpes	argentine, asciilifeform	[04:31]
cazalla	decimation, give em more benefits, i'm over fighting it, better to accelerate the demise	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	wait, you had a workshop in argentina ?!	[04:32]
asciilifeform	he did	[04:32]
asciilifeform	35 yrs ago	[04:32]
asciilifeform	now - here	[04:32]
asciilifeform	lol pronouns	[04:32]
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mircea_popescu	so bookshop owner also had a mechanic shop and the two were next to each other but the later was in argentina ?	[04:33]
asciilifeform	l0l!	[04:33]
asciilifeform	apply 'lagrangean' and derive 'most boring' configuration.	[04:34]
decimation	if a lion could speak we would not understand him	[04:34]
asciilifeform	there's your answer.	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03:you have potential for the stage my man << he has a point, you know.	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	your pauses are pregnant like a thousand cockapedes fucked them raw.	[04:34]
asciilifeform	!b 1	[04:35]
assbot	Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2YB0F1K.txt )	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	(a cockapede, being, of course, a creature walking on its cocks)	[04:35]
asciilifeform	naturally, what else could he be?	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	it could be one of those annoying chicks trying to impede sexual congress with their "friends" at parties ?	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	i don't share the power rangers' suspicions of Werner Koch.	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	ftr.	[04:36]
*	asciilifeform doesn't either	[04:36]
ben_vulpes	the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks') << video camera inline with sensor axis too, yeah?	[04:36]
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ben_vulpes	IMU, why not	[04:37]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: if seen with apparatus, might not come out	[04:37]
asciilifeform	geiger - might fit in arse, conceivably	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform we'll visit your gold bars tho.	[04:38]
decimation	http://spaceweather.com/images2014/15nov14/comparison2.gif?PHPSESSID=tgmk0lb92jsrmh0mgkpi5fhvu7 << radiation in-flight	[04:38]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EY7QMb )	[04:38]
decimation	http://spaceweather.com/ "Some experts reading these reports on Spaceweather.com have pointed out that X-rays and gamma-rays represent only a fraction of the radiation present at aviation altitudes. The true dose could be doubled or tripled by neutrons, a component of cosmic rays known to be especially good at delivering energy to human tissue. "	[04:39]
assbot	SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY7VQ2 )	[04:39]
decimation	flying is the new smoking	[04:39]
ben_vulpes	oh i thought we were playing "if i could stroll into the gold vaults with toys" game	[04:39]
JorgePasada	ben_vulpes: Sorry I didn't get back to you the other night, lady friend dragged me kicking and singing to Karaoke	[04:39]
asciilifeform	incidentally: here's a free11!11! mindphuck:	[04:39]
asciilifeform	very sensitive gravimeter can fit in a truck	[04:39]
ben_vulpes	oh there you are JorgePasada	[04:39]
asciilifeform	may be possible to detect a large parcel of Au gravimetrically.	[04:39]
ben_vulpes	what, you don't have your duets locked down?	[04:39]
ben_vulpes	lady v and i do "drunk in love"	[04:39]
asciilifeform	from a good distance.	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	mike_c: some do. google bot runs JS. << last i heard it was buggy as hell	[04:39]
asciilifeform	especially if it is moving.	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	after years in development etc.	[04:39]
mike_c	well, they use chrome	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:40]
mike_c	that's what they built it for	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	what, you don't have your duets locked down? << can you explain this to the innocent ?	[04:40]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: u savvy "karaoke"?	[04:41]
decimation	asciilifeform: you can put one on an airplane too	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	oh nm, missed karaorke on first pass.	[04:41]
asciilifeform	gravimeter on airplane, lol	[04:41]
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mircea_popescu	i suppose one could put their bed on a gravimeter, the evaluate the fucking quality	[04:42]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: karaorke << ayn rand singalong?	[04:42]
undata	ben_vulpes: ha, nicely done	[04:42]
*	undata imagines Rand's singing voice, shudders	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes lmao. jus' a typo!	[04:42]
decimation	certainly one would have to take into account http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/BF02520558.pdf	[04:43]
assbot	The downward continuation of aerial gravimetric data without density hypothesis - Springer ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY8GZs )	[04:43]
decimation	the movement of the aircraft	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	so is this qntra down thing actually ? cuz i still see it...	[04:43]
asciilifeform	dead here.	[04:43]
Apocalyptic	so can I	[04:43]
asciilifeform	along with trilema.	[04:43]
mike_c	dead here.	[04:43]
decimation	dead here	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	well, if you can't see it, send me your ip and you too can be whitelisted!	[04:44]
undata	dead.	[04:44]
ben_vulpes	m-m-m-ortuary breaker!	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	provided you care enough not to wait.	[04:44]
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ben_vulpes	who reads that culty crap anyways	[04:44]
*	asciilifeform waits for the promised 'unmitigable!11!!1' bomb	[04:44]
decimation	for some reason our ddos friend tends to ddos only at daytime over the pacific	[04:44]
JorgePasada	Man, I have way too many blockchains on this machine	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	decimation well, prolly trying to make the most out of his budget.	[04:45]
cazalla	mircea_popescu, it's intermittent, can't get a post up though :	[04:45]
decimation	are you saying chumpnets charge 'off-peak' hours?	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	no, but if you only can afford 10 hours a week, what do you do ?	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	pick a coupla days and hope someone cares.	[04:46]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: actually this is not typically how it works	[04:46]
*	mircea_popescu is not an expert.	[04:46]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: 'fine-grained' chumpnet rental is rare, because anyone with half a brain, when allowed to install $turd on a chump's box, can make it semi-permanent	[04:46]
asciilifeform	but infections tend to be regionally-nonuniform.	[04:46]
asciilifeform	hence the hours.	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i imagined the way this works is, an actual provider somewhere gets orders from random derps on whatever forum	[04:47]
asciilifeform	not sure about now, but when folks used to mine 'litecoin' via chumpnet, one could go to various pool sites and see hash rate graphs	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	then puts them in his own machine.	[04:47]
decimation	do chumps actually turn off their computers at night?	[04:47]
asciilifeform	look for the sinusoidal ones	[04:47]
asciilifeform	them there's chumpamatic.	[04:47]
decimation	I guess local routers are more trafficed during daylight	[04:48]
asciilifeform	decimation: users of portable machines tend to disconnect with some periodicity	[04:48]
asciilifeform	(in briefcase, on train, etc)	[04:48]
asciilifeform	and yes, basic homo chumpneticus turns his box off when sleeps.	[04:48]
asciilifeform	and office machine also, when leaves.	[04:49]
asciilifeform	(just as surely part of one or more chumpnets)	[04:49]
kakobrekla	sinusoidal ones < http://shrani.si/f/1W/10N/w9AePX9/steam.png	[04:49]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EY9zRJ )	[04:49]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: precisely this pattern.	[04:50]
decimation	interesting. one can probably determine a fair bit by examine the phase of the sine	[04:50]
asciilifeform	litecoin hash power can probably still be fourier-transformed into these sinusoids very cleanly	[04:51]
asciilifeform	for whatever use that might be.	[04:51]
decimation	at any rate, I'm sure the qntra readers in French Polynesia are disappointed	[04:52]
mats_cd03	http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2014/11/18/6/0503000000AEN20141118006200320F.html << lol. koreans smoking the reefer	[04:54]
assbot	S. Korea to raise $500 bln for unification: regulator ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYagui )	[04:54]
ben_vulpes	http://rubygems.org/?redesign << web 3.14	[04:54]
assbot	RubyGems.org \| your community gem host ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYajpV )	[04:54]
decimation	http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/04/russias-diplomats-are-better-than-ours-105773.html	[04:54]
assbot	Russian Diplomats Are Eating America's Lunch - James Bruno - POLITICO Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYajGn )	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/collections-of-views-and-other-impressions-also-from-buenos-aires/	[04:55]
assbot	Collections of views and other impressions. Also from Buenos Aires. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYap0F )	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	well at least assbot can see it.	[04:55]
decimation	" A former U.S. ambassador who had dealt with Lavrov at the United Nations described him to me as disciplined, witty and charming, a diplomat so skilled “he runs rings around us in the multilateral sphere.”"	[04:55]
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cazalla	http://qntra.net/2014/11/kncminer-moving-to-16nm-plan-to-offer-cloud-mining/	[04:58]
assbot	KnCMiner: Moving To 16nm, Plan To Offer Cloud Mining \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BLjP3q )	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	There is the moral of all human tales '(tis but the same rehearsal of the past) : first Freedom, and then Glory when that fails. Wealth, vice, corruption, barbarism at last. For History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	not bad eh.	[04:59]
asciilifeform	aha.	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	cazalla just between you and me, this bullshit "cloud mining" is a step away from pool mining in the utterly wrong direction.	[04:59]
asciilifeform	lol, 'pmb' crud resurfaced ?!	[05:00]
cazalla	mircea_popescu, but it's in the cloud so it has to be good! soon we will be living in the cloud, storing our wallets in the cloud and mining in the cloud	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	yes, except now pushed by the more corrupt of the mining gear manufacturers.	[05:00]
cazalla	i suspect most of them are ponzi and some operate as such until they collect enough funds to actually mine, fake it till you make it "the secret" type shit	[05:01]
Apocalyptic	cazalla, probably	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	knc is already established and has gear.	[05:02]
cazalla	in the case of GAW, they point to bitmain and had them confirm that they placed an order as proof that they mine and people fall for it all the same	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	a well, sure, plenty of scams. those are of little consequence.	[05:04]
JorgePasada	cazalla: People actually think GAW is anything but a ponzi scheme?	[05:04]
cazalla	eventually someone will come up with the idea of renaming the ponzi to a mining simulator and pitch it as such	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	the fact that chip manufacturers are mostly not selling to individuals anymore, and the fact that mining is moving towards meaningless "cloud" derivatives is some point of concern.	[05:04]
asciilifeform	the vertically-integrated miner i spoke of 1yr ago - is either coming, or is churning already.	[05:05]
JorgePasada	asciilifeform: vertically integrated miner?	[05:05]
cazalla	i imagine knc will mine and then once returns drop, they'll begin selling the cloud services to mine from customers wallets than bitcoin mining itself	[05:06]
asciilifeform	JorgePasada: yes. chip fab, energy/cooling planet, mining house - in one facility.	[05:06]
asciilifeform	*plant	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it finally danwed on me after seeing that comment on the humble proposal to miners	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	that indeed preheating water with the extracted heat would boost efficiency enormously.	[05:07]
asciilifeform	it seemed like an inevitability when turned out that asic is a proposition at all	[05:07]
JorgePasada	I don't think it'll happen, too much concentration of risk. Maybe in like 3 years after the next reward cut	[05:07]
JorgePasada	Maybe then	[05:07]
JorgePasada	But, there would be enormous amonuts of risk in something like that	[05:07]
JorgePasada	that wouldn't be outweighed by the efficiency gains from the vertical integration IMO	[05:07]
asciilifeform	if it does not presently exist, it is solely from lack of sufficiently cooperative physical sovereign.	[05:08]
asciilifeform	as JorgePasada pointed out - 'target-rich environment.'	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	JorgePasada risk in itself is no detraction.	[05:09]
asciilifeform	'risk' is wrong word. something like a satellite launch is among the highest-risk physical investments - but people do it.	[05:10]
JorgePasada	mircea_popescu: No, but you'd have to find a way to not make it a 100% deep 0% wide business, you'd need wiggle room	[05:11]
asciilifeform	but when launching (peacetime) orbital rocket, one is merely gambling, not fighting a war	[05:11]
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asciilifeform	gigantic mining op - target.	[05:11]
JorgePasada	if the only point of the thing is to churn out more mining chips to put in the space of the thing	[05:11]
JorgePasada	it's self limiting	[05:11]
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mircea_popescu	maybe.	[05:11]
JorgePasada	and if anything changes in the market, it could crash the whole thing	[05:12]
JorgePasada	I mean, if you can say	[05:12]
JorgePasada	improve heating/cooling, etc	[05:12]
JorgePasada	for stuff they're going to do anyway in the plant	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	"The resultant society, however, was still reasonably stable and probably would have lasted a very long time if it had not been for Rome’s expansionist policies, which led to the establishment of the Empire." << this notion, that it was "expansionism" that broke rome's back, together with the previous "Its power was not based on hereditary status but much more on wealth. Such a change in itself must have seriously un	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	dermined the basis of social stability, by substituting the bonds established by “contract” for those dependent on “status” as a basis for social order." are little more than present nonsense anachronised.	[05:12]
JorgePasada	but then instead of going all out with the mining	[05:12]
JorgePasada	Just have the plant be 20% mining but only the 20% where you're gonna be wasting the energy anyway	[05:13]
JorgePasada	or need heat exchangers	[05:13]
JorgePasada	or whatever	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	it is not true that money and wealth is "wrong" or "corrupts", as the fucking protestants would have you believe. it is not true that appetite or expansion are evil, as the puritans would hae you believe.	[05:13]
JorgePasada	that'd be huge	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	JorgePasada you read the comment in question ?	[05:13]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: not 'evil' but 'car that runs out of gas' as per your stalin article.	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform note that it was trying to administer the lands that ruined them. not conquering them in the first place.	[05:13]
asciilifeform	well yes.	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	well it's a fucking important distinction.	[05:14]
JorgePasada	mircea_popescu: Yeah, I'd agree with that quote and your subsiquent comment for the most part	[05:17]
JorgePasada	It's just that, if we're still talking about the vertically integrated mining thing, I don't see it as a viable play to accumulate wealth	[05:17]
JorgePasada	maybe I mis-used the word 'risk' earlier	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	well, why not ? let me run a quick model for you here.	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	1MW is used to generate hashing power. this means it turns into 9.999 MJ of heat. This heat is extracted, by compressor using 180kJ, and 6MJ of it are used to preheat some water.	[05:19]
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mircea_popescu	this water has another .7MJ added by a nuclear power plant, turns to steam, powers a turbine, putting out 1MW of electricity which restarts the cycle.	[05:20]
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mircea_popescu	your costs ? .18 + .3 = ~.5 MJ to keep a 1MW circuit going perpetually.	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	this is roughly speaking 3 to 5x the efficiency your competition gets.	[05:21]
asciilifeform	10 MW ?	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	(i obviously fucked up my digit breaks, but i think the idea carries anyway ?)	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	1mw, .999 mj, .18mj, .6mj restated.	[05:22]
asciilifeform	aha	[05:22]
asciilifeform	well yes, anyone who remembers 'carnot cycle' can follow the outline.	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	right ? turning a simple one way consumer into an actual integrated cycle is huge.	[05:23]
asciilifeform	also note the virtually absent transmission losses (implicit in the customery power plant + distant miners scheme)	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	it's not just "an improvement". it's cultural revolution huge, like the automobile.	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	yup, they were noted.	[05:23]
asciilifeform	all that remains is to place it aboard a sub and pump seawater for cold loop.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	you and subs srsly.	[05:24]
asciilifeform	also handles physical security very well.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	you know sub seamen are all gay right ?	[05:24]
asciilifeform	well, in usa.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	everywhere lol.	[05:24]
asciilifeform	even the swedish female ones?	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck do you think can put up with constantly rubbing against other dudes ?	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	women can be gay too.	[05:25]
asciilifeform	who the fuck do you think can put up with constantly << conscripts.	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	c onscripts are also gay.	[05:26]
asciilifeform	whether men conscripted to ru sub turn gay, is an interesting question - but minersub needs only minimal crew.	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	lmao how do you figure ?	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	sub whose only job is to defend itself needs x crew	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	sub that does that + mining needs more, not less.	[05:27]
asciilifeform	well, depends on enemy, no?	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	course these days due to automation, crews are kinda obsolete in both aviation and submersion roles.	[05:27]
asciilifeform	in peacetime - yes	[05:27]
asciilifeform	crew is there primarily to operate weapons (this was not entrusted to automata, afaik, anywhere) and to make repairs.	[05:28]
JorgePasada	asciilifeform: We've had peacetime in the last 100 years?	[05:28]
asciilifeform	lol!	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	repairs!	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	what do you think this is, nixon's term ?	[05:34]
asciilifeform	if no plan to make repairs / fire weapons, dispense with the sub and sink glass miner-spheres as described earlier.	[05:34]
asciilifeform	water-cooled RTG for power.	[05:35]
asciilifeform	net connectivity - exercise for alert reader.	[05:35]
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ben_vulpes	!s berkshire mpoe-pr	[05:44]
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ben_vulpes	!s berkshire bitcointalk	[05:45]
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ben_vulpes	arrrrgh	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes can i assist ?	[05:47]
ben_vulpes	i seek that bh letter mpoe-pr posted that talks about diminishing returns on hardware investments	[05:48]
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ben_vulpes	drew a parallel between mining and weaving	[05:48]
ben_vulpes	i do this once per quarter, i swear	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=201268.0;all <	[05:48]
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ben_vulpes	dude how do you do that	[05:49]
ben_vulpes	https://bitcointa.lk/threads/asicminer-vs-cado-avalonb3.120172/#post-2008102 mpoe-pr hanbot mining looms diminishing returns berkshire hathaway	[05:50]
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ben_vulpes	k well pegged for this search next quarter	[05:50]
ben_vulpes	ty mircea_popescu	[05:50]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes how do i do it lol. she's on my payroll and keeps things organised for my convenience ?	[05:50]
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asciilifeform	mpoepr on retainer? neato.	[05:52]
ben_vulpes	has it not always been so?	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	afaik.	[05:53]
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ben_vulpes	i felt a great disturbance in the blockchain	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	"Also he possessed a wife and child. This, too, was a great innovation."	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	i so loathe it when people try to serve a solid point by pious fraud.	[06:02]
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ben_vulpes	as if a million log readers wondered what happened to a slave's salary, and were suddently silenced	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	jupiter had a wife. he was someone's child. etc.	[06:02]
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mircea_popescu	“The poor citizen found almost all the spheres in which an honourable livelihood might be obtained wholly or at least in a very great degree preoccupied by slaves, while he had learnt to regard trade with an invincible repugnance." <<< here's a good question. how come the "free citizen" aka, delusional derp can not compete with the slave ?	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	is it that the slave is actually a better human being, strictly for having had the sense to be a slave, and follow the will of a worthy master	[06:10]
ben_vulpes	privilege of having a master :D	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	rather than just pretend like "everything's equalk anyway"	[06:10]
ben_vulpes	americans envy each other the "good boss"	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	anyway. the problem of re-reading. i find goldsmith much less on point than i did back when i first read him.	[06:10]
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mircea_popescu	coupla decades ago	[06:11]
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ben_vulpes	so i've pushed my 0.5.3 up to block 249618, and am now going to run it past the block at which asciilifeform reports wedging, and hopefully all the way to memory exhaustion	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	http://pastebin.com/QWappVgz << check out all the supercool haxing and stuff.	[06:14]
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kakobrekla	btw not too much relevant but i wedged 0.7 at 252450	[06:14]
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ben_vulpes	kakobrekla: hah no wai recently?	[06:17]
kakobrekla	http://shrani.si/f/7/i0/1OjqFJZe/bitcoindblocks-day.png	[06:18]
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rithm	haxing	[06:18]
kakobrekla	so just over a day ago	[06:19]
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ben_vulpes	gtk kakobrekla ty	[06:20]
rithm	who be Krypt Technologies VPLSNET (NET-67-198-128-0-1) 67.198.128.0 - 67.198.255.255	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	rithm random hoster	[06:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00075787 = 13.0733 BTC [+]	[06:21]
rithm	call Ken Chan	[06:21]
mircea_popescu	https://www.blocklist.de/en/search.html?as=35908	[06:21]
mircea_popescu	Attacks count: 148 (this month) / 495 (complete time)	[06:21]
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kakobrekla	im gonna try with set_lk_max_locks 40000	[06:22]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla try with 500k	[06:22]
kakobrekla	hm?	[06:22]
kakobrekla	db.log sez >Lock table is out of available lock entries	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	set_lk_max_locks 500000	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	rithm http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=760038 ancient offender for that matter.	[06:24]
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xanthyos	;;rate thomas_d -1	[07:14]
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xanthyos	wtf is wrong with you lol	[07:14]
xanthyos	[12:12:03 AM] eric: shouldn't have brought yotu ointo the wot	[07:14]
xanthyos	[12:12:17 AM] eric: i saw that fuck slater come on earlier with "weboftrust" as nis name to troll sophie and me when we were on tinychatr	[07:14]
xanthyos	[12:12:19 AM] eric: your doing i presume	[07:14]
xanthyos	thomas dickov	[07:14]
cazalla	;;rate -10 xanthyos uses tiny chat	[07:15]
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cazalla	anyone know what knife is used in http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1416368270281.webm	[07:16]
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xanthyos	i use tinychat because i'm fucking depressed and i get stuck in my room for weeks at time or stuck at the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block	[07:17]
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xanthyos	and i don't see other faces otherwise	[07:17]
cazalla	why the kitchen sink?	[07:18]
xanthyos	i got stuck there	[07:19]
xanthyos	i find myself under a faucet of some kind or other for several hours a day	[07:19]
cazalla	like junior did in sopranos?	[07:19]
xanthyos	i try to pretend it's nto a serious medical problem	[07:20]
xanthyos	because i don't externally show symptoms	[07:20]
xanthyos	having to hide my hands when i'm webcam so people don't see me comparing my left index fingernail to my right	[07:21]
xanthyos	to see if any friction amde them uneven	[07:21]
cazalla	i dunno, not having anyone in the house sounds pretty sweet to me, nice and quiet	[07:21]
xanthyos	for 15 years?	[07:21]
xanthyos	i haven't had sex since 2005	[07:21]
cazalla	neither have my wife and i for some time plus she is getting fat so you know, prob won't ever again!	[07:22]
xanthyos	maybe it's good that my emotional vomit is taken with such a cavalier attitude here	[07:23]
xanthyos	it's actually grounding	[07:24]
rithm	what is a tinychat	[07:24]
cazalla	what is wrong with your hands anyway xanthyos	[07:24]
ben_vulpes	so cheery tonight guise wd	[07:24]
rithm	oic	[07:24]
xanthyos	it's an ocd thing	[07:24]
rithm	^5 i'm ocd	[07:24]
cazalla	xanthyos, it just sounds like you're bitching about a bachelor pad	[07:25]
ben_vulpes	lady v and got stoned and can't remember if we fed the dog	[07:25]
ben_vulpes	see this is why i stopped smoking pot	[07:25]
xanthyos	it sounds one way and is another way	[07:25]
xanthyos	if i could enjoy a bachelor pad i'd love it	[07:25]
cazalla	what do you ocd about?	[07:26]
xanthyos	everything	[07:26]
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xanthyos	i count like in the shower	[07:26]
xanthyos	and have to repeat a perfect sequence to get out of it	[07:26]
xanthyos	it's like the most maddening thing and i can't imagine having gotten into it if i didn't get into it	[07:27]
cazalla	xanthyos, come and clean my house then, wife is useless	[07:27]
xanthyos	like painting the brain into a corner	[07:28]
xanthyos	it's not about clean	[07:28]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Oh response<< any idea what that's supposed to mean ? << Not much, I think @TheRealSolid impiled my stupidity is why qntra is under constant DoS	[07:29]
cazalla	xanthyos, maybe you just need to get laid, i dunno, i mean 10 years is a long time	[07:30]
cazalla	just go out and harpoon the biggest whale you can find, no-one has to know	[07:30]
xanthyos	i don't even want it	[07:33]
nubbins`	ben_vulpes welcome	[07:41]
mats_cd03	embrace the dysfunction	[07:41]
nubbins`	<+cazalla> neither have my wife and i for some time plus she is getting fat so you know, prob won't ever again! <<< lel show her how to irc, maybe you guys can hang out in here together	[07:43]
mats_cd03	the most skilled reverser i have ever met has OCD	[07:43]
mats_cd03	you got that govt dole, what do you do with your free time? smoke pot and go on tinychat?	[07:44]
cazalla	nubbins`, she has facebook and her ipad, too busy with that	[07:47]
mats_cd03	choose something you want to be good at it, and own it.	[07:47]
nubbins`	bummer	[07:48]
nubbins`	guess that's that	[07:48]
cazalla	nubbins`, bummer? yeah right lol	[07:48]
cazalla	xanthyos> i don't even want it <<< but it was the first thing you complained about	[07:50]
xanthyos	not the first, more of a symptom of the whole	[07:52]
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cazalla	and have to repeat a perfect sequence to get out of it <<< is this like, numbers like 2 4 6 8 10 are ok, 5 gets a pass because it can be mulitply to 10 but 1 3 7 9 are annoying?	[08:03]
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xanthyos	cazalla: i write down numbers and have to later check them for significance	[08:13]
xanthyos	i google integers often	[08:13]
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mats_cd03	xanthyos: http://www2.stetson.edu/~efriedma/numbers.html	[08:18]
assbot	What's Special About This Number? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBMqpf )	[08:18]
BingoBoingo	http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Man-tests-positive-for-Ebola-in-Delhi-kept-under-isolation/articleshow/45194610.cms	[08:18]
assbot	Man recovering from Ebola quarantined at Delhi airport - The Times of India ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBMqFJ )	[08:18]
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BingoBoingo	!up dartv	[08:24]
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dartv	qntra blank page?	[08:25]
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mircea_popescu	!up Blutano	[08:26]
-assbot-	You voiced Blutano for 30 minutes.	[08:26]
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mircea_popescu	dartv hit a reload or something.	[08:26]
cazalla	Blazedout419, you paid 14k bezzlers for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472 ?	[08:27]
dartv	oh thanks	[08:27]
assbot	"The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBNvgK )	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	xanthyos: stuck at the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block << this is called "doing the dishes"	[08:29]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: lady v and got stoned and can't remember if we fed the dog << it'd be funnier if you had a cat.	[08:30]
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TheNewDeal	they didnt accept bitcoin for the bitcoin art?	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	well starving artist gotta eat.	[08:40]
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TheNewDeal	;b	[08:45]
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dartv	kabab	[08:52]
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BingoBoingo	!up dartv	[09:01]
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dartv	blockstream inc smells like ripple	[09:07]
BingoBoingo	Haven't looked into it too much yet	[09:11]
BingoBoingo	!up Vexual	[09:11]
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dartv	SPV = so-so security unacceptable for money	[09:12]
BingoBoingo	Eh, SPV wallets have a nich if they are simple, but probably a poor solution for building anything complex	[09:13]
dartv	BingoBoingo: there's a difference between SPV wallets and SPV blockchains	[09:14]
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BingoBoingo	dartv: SPV wallets exist. Multibit and the Schildbach Android wallet for example.	[09:14]
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BingoBoingo	Dunno how an SPV blockchain works, seems like almost a contradiction...	[09:15]
punkman	dartv: I doubt they'll ever get their sidechain circus running	[09:15]
Vexual	whats spv??	[09:15]
BingoBoingo	Superior Pussy Velocity	[09:16]
Vexual	special purpose?	[09:16]
Vexual	it either is or it isnt	[09:16]
dartv	here's the thing	[09:17]
BingoBoingo	Well, if you try to build a whole chain of Simplified Payment Verification... Probably going to get Sybil attacked to hell	[09:18]
dartv	blockstream will add a few operations that allow locking or unlocking of Bitcoins, called transferring to a sidechain (or transferring back)	[09:18]
dartv	the "unlock this coin" operation uses SPV proof (SPVP)	[09:18]
punkman	dartv, do they need the revised nlocktime stuff for that?	[09:18]
dartv	punkman: no totally unrelated	[09:19]
BingoBoingo	Do they need some other forking behavior?	[09:19]
dartv	this means that the state of Bitcoin's UXTO / ledger is dependent on miners accepting SPV proofs from sidechains	[09:19]
punkman	they need an opcode/softfork	[09:19]
dartv	yeah they need to add these opcodes	[09:19]
BingoBoingo	Ha, they're doomed.	[09:20]
BingoBoingo	No more room for forks	[09:20]
dartv	doesn't mean it won't be attempted. i feel bitcoin will be fractured in the near future	[09:21]
BingoBoingo	Eh, it's always fractured	[09:22]
BingoBoingo	http://practicalfmri.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/a-failed-quench-circuit.html	[09:22]
assbot	practiCal fMRI: the nuts & bolts: A failed quench circuit? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBUbLP )	[09:22]
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BingoBoingo	!up free	[09:23]
BingoBoingo	!up free_	[09:23]
dartv	BingoBoingo: so far most people agree which address has how many BTC. i think I mean hard fork	[09:23]
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Vexual	https://blockchain.info/address/1EyeKB2BoV6btP3Nhzoqf2dVUpBNdRsd1e	[09:23]
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BingoBoingo	Vexual: You run a pool now?	[09:25]
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Vexual	Not me	[09:25]
Vexual	I just saw two in two hours	[09:26]
BingoBoingo	Ah	[09:26]
dartv	BingoBoingo: there's definitely room for hard forks	[09:26]
BingoBoingo	I'm not so sure.	[09:27]
dartv	it just has to be uncontroversial enough. something like sidechains? most likely won't pass, but behavior of the bitcoin ecosystem is hard to predict	[09:27]
BingoBoingo	dartv: Well, what sort of hardforks do you imagine could happen?	[09:28]
dartv	BingoBoingo: blockchain forks in reference client, eg apr 2013	[09:31]
BingoBoingo	dartv: Well, that wasn't intention for anyone other than Herr Hearn's handlers	[09:31]
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punkman	!up dartv	[09:33]
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punkman	;;gettrust [ident dartv]	[09:33]
gribble	Error: You provided an empty string as argument. Your command: ;;gettrust [ident dartv].	[09:33]
dartv	changes might be snuck into emergency hardforks	[09:33]
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BingoBoingo	dartv: Well, that's why there's a new Bitcoin foundation	[09:40]
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Vexual	I haven't paid my dues yet	[09:51]
Vexual	I loathe to calc the jukebox rate	[09:55]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[09:55]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/10WD7CW.txt )	[09:55]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074954 = 9.6691 BTC [-]	[10:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00074954 = 2.4735 BTC [-]	[10:18]
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punkman	punkbot: [trust-update] added: phillipsjk \| removed: phillipsjk << there's the bug again. How is that possible when added = new - old, removed = old - new. Also doesn't seem phillip received or lost any ratings.	[10:28]
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BingoBoingo	;;later tell pete_dushenski https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mr6zw/foundation_survey_results_only_half_of_members/	[10:31]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[10:31]
assbot	Foundation Survey Results: Only half of members even like what they do : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgKDad )	[10:31]
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mircea_popescu	http://qntra.net/2014/11/vessenes-bitcoin-foundation-publishes-telling-survey-results/ << ha, not bad.	[10:32]
assbot	Vessenes' Bitcoin Foundation Publishes Telling Survey Results. \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgKP9f )	[10:32]
BingoBoingo	It's a pete piece	[10:33]
BingoBoingo	Can't expect less than not bad	[10:33]
punkman	re: "what if you were a slave" https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/534883832198365184	[10:33]
assbot	Abolitionists knew definitions of race were insane. Used it against slaveholders by depicting "white" slaves. http://t.co/tV8SCHQXrH	[10:33]
punkman	http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/the-young-white-faces-of-slavery/?_r=0	[10:34]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgL2cx )	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	well obviously race as a legal concept is going to diverge from sanity.	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	that's the point of having legal definitions in the first place.	[10:35]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[10:46]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 383.45, Best ask: 385.16, Bid-ask spread: 1.71000, Last trade: 383.43, 24 hour volume: 13935.50747318, 24 hour low: 371.0, 24 hour high: 387.84, 24 hour vwap: 378.330944475	[10:46]
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BingoBoingo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1fUzkqwbQ	[10:54]
assbot	Angry Ram takes on a 6 ton digger - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1uuvf5e )	[10:54]
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BingoBoingo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6G1edfzXY0	[10:59]
assbot	The Angry Ram didn't want me touching his sheep nuts - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgOLH6 )	[10:59]
BingoBoingo	!Up Vexual	[10:59]
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Vexual	thats it, im buying peacefulram	[11:00]
Vexual	.cagefight	[11:02]
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Vexual	mfc?	[11:03]
Vexual	mma, mad mutton a...	[11:04]
Vexual	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzYdPMVZsRQ	[11:08]
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BingoBoingo	* assets_idle_bot (~fivezerot@unaffiliated/fivezerotwo) has joined #bitcoin-assets << You know... there's a log...	[11:10]
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BingoBoingo	Well I guess it is time for anyone who doesn't already have a cloak to prolly get one.	[11:11]
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punkman	http://googleresearch.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/a-picture-is-worth-thousand-coherent.html	[11:17]
assbot	Research Blog: A picture is worth a thousand (coherent) words: building a natural description of images	[11:17]
Vexual	its wrong more often than its right	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	i guess maybe it's time to stoke that	[11:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32629 @ 0.00075787 = 24.7285 BTC [+]	[11:21]
Vexual	google?	[11:22]
BingoBoingo	Angry Ram?	[11:22]
Vexual	cat?	[11:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00074954 = 7.383 BTC [-]	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[11:24]
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punkman	http://threatpost.com/new-research-same-old-problems-with-badusb/109398	[11:34]
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punkman	!up Vexual	[11:42]
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Vexual	rubber ducky just went soft	[11:44]
Vexual	this is where sd had an advantage; bill gates didnt braintsotorm it	[11:46]
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punkman	sd cards?	[11:48]
Vexual	well you still camt get one thats all writable, so dont get too excited	[11:48]
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punkman	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ	[11:53]
punkman	"Everything in our lives is connected to the internet, so why not our toilets? Take a tour of Smart Pipe, the hot new tech startup that turns your waste into valuable information and fun social connectivity."	[11:53]
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Vexual	peek poke at a smart toilet	[11:54]
Vexual	yep, it's poo	[11:55]
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Vexual	thats basic	[12:04]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[21:13]
*	[freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp	[21:13]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[21:13]
mats_cd03	a submarine, obviously	[21:14]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[21:31]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[21:31]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[21:31]
BingoBoingo	Interesting	[21:31]
SonsofCrypto	I've come across this channel and was interested in what it might provide. Hoping to add new revenues.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	;;ident SonsofCrypto	[21:32]
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asciilifeform	'Victor Mayer-Schönberger -- professor of Internet Governance and Regulation' << lol!!!	[21:33]
asciilifeform	(from qntra link)	[21:33]
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mircea_popescu	;;ident SonsofCrypto	[21:33]
gribble	Nick 'SonsofCrypto', with hostmask 'SonsofCrypto!46b9eb74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.185.235.116', is not identified.	[21:33]
mike_c	what. the fuck. awards for vapor-ware now?	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	sooo... get in teh wot.	[21:33]
mike_c	i mean, if they had given him the marketing award i would understand	[21:33]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Well... Time & Life still gets the name of a building while being dyingware.	[21:34]
asciilifeform	'Paul Graham, Jessica Livingston, Robert Morris, and Trevor Blackwell --- Co-Founder, Y Combinator'; 'Blair Glencorse --- Founder, Accountability Lab (Washington, DC, USA; Liberia; Nepal)' << what kind of satanic circus is this	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the kind.	[21:34]
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Namworld	BingoBoingo, what's your url again? cazalla too. And anyone publishing Bitcoin related content, really.	[21:35]
BingoBoingo	Namworld: http://qntra.net	[21:35]
assbot	Qntra.net \| Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqbIoP )	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	Namworld http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/	[21:36]
BingoBoingo	Namworld: Also http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com	[21:36]
assbot	People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqbOwK )	[21:36]
assbot	Bingo Blog \| - of Bitcoin and Boingo ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqbNcl )	[21:36]
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mircea_popescu	so am i the only one displeased but unsurprised that not.a.single."foss".implementation out there has yet come up with a way for the user to bind a sole keyboard to kernel bus ? and all others get rejected ?	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	if i was running things that'd have been the only thing being worked on.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	but no, fucking systemcocks.	[21:38]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: my machine presently works this way.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	EVERYONES MACHINE works this way.	[21:39]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: unreleased for the same reason as your bitcoind	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	this is the fucking point. it's not just bitcoin "core" that's irrelevant	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	the entire fucking movement is in point of fact about as related to the reality of computers as party clowns are related to fucking.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	sure, they occasionally rape kids.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	that;s not so much.	[21:39]
Namworld	Need to have enough traffic. Probably only qntra has enough. Messaging you Bingo	[21:40]
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BingoBoingo	Ok	[21:40]
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Namworld	Hmm, looks like I'm talking to wrong person.	[21:43]
Namworld	Would need to talk to cazalla or mircea.	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	Namworld so talk ?	[21:43]
Namworld	I have a feeling partner program is not your thing tho. Flat fee for advertising only. You're kind of a no fluff deals guy.	[21:44]
Namworld	We're rolling out rev share program with publishers at Coinroll.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	ah, that may work well for qntra actually.	[21:46]
BingoBoingo	cazalla should be awake between nao and a few hours from nao	[21:46]
Namworld	So far I've sent email out to gambling directories. It's functional but no interface yet, wao is working on it.	[21:47]
Namworld	So I'm generating reports for now.	[21:47]
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BingoBoingo	Oh look advertising on Qntra might start because advertisers are soliciting qntras instead of qntras soliciting advertisers	[21:48]
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thestringpuller	Namworld: have you started advert campagin on bitbet yet?	[21:49]
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Namworld	We had an ad placed there in the past.	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	!up wao	[21:50]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: movement << lol. perhaps in the sense of 'bowel movement.'	[21:50]
-assbot-	You voiced wao for 30 minutes.	[21:50]
*	assbot gives voice to wao	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it's sad yo, back as a wee kitten in romania i had a lotta respect for the whole shebang.	[21:50]
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wao	and also chat loaded, but need some styling and polishing over it!	[21:50]
*	mircea_popescu waves @wao	[21:50]
wao	thanks for + !	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	;;gettrust assbot wao	[21:51]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user wao: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=wao \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wao \| Rated since: Tue Nov 12 12:50:16 2013	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	you know you can self-voice. just pm assbot !up	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	an' that's permanent.	[21:51]
Namworld	He has to complete many things, will push all new features along partner interface.	[21:51]
wao	oh, yes, I'm sometimes lurk here but mostly dont have that opinion that could be readed any other of you .)	[21:52]
wao	not that in nsfw meaning!	[21:52]
wao	yeah, I plan refactor whole coinroll code and convert it to responsive web, as now it's fixed :\|	[21:53]
mircea_popescu	lol! dun worry about it, just making sure you know.	[21:53]
wao	just catch up year 2013..	[21:53]
wao	yeah, I know :D	[21:53]
wao	Coinroll - first gambling site that will pay you for UX opinion. <- suggestion for AD	[21:53]
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*	wao ducks	[21:53]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i had a lotta respect for the whole shebang << it was a different shebang in those times.	[21:54]
*	kakobrekla hates responsive web	[21:54]
wao	bit on opinions	[21:54]
kakobrekla	now gimmeh 100 btc	[21:54]
wao	kakobrekla: wai? )	[21:54]
kakobrekla	cause its retarded	[21:54]
asciilifeform	^	[21:54]
wao	sometimes.	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	let the man run his own business eh.	[21:54]
wao	mostly of sometimes	[21:54]
kakobrekla	NO I WILL RAIN	[21:54]
wao	people want consume digital content on their smartwatchs!	[21:55]
wao	I lately seen Watch SDK	[21:55]
wao	I see it comming, like Swift made it.	[21:55]
asciilifeform	when digital content on smart dildo ?	[21:55]
wao	^ ^ ^	[21:55]
wao	oh I have content for you!	[21:55]
wao	mircea_popescu: seen this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjZRWNg8k_M#t=609 ?	[21:55]
assbot	The Salad Mixxxer \| Infomercials \| Adult Swim - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqeACh )	[21:56]
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wao	also for 80s kids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8	[21:56]
assbot	Too Many Cooks \| Adult Swim - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqeN8v )	[21:56]
wao	ok, this is why I dont have voice, spent lot of time of talking )	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	now where was that young whore pic...	[21:57]
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BingoBoingo	Moar ANgry Ram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfLCb4ewDDc	[21:58]
assbot	Angry ram takes down a drone... and its owner - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/11ixtum )	[21:58]
wao	oh btw	[21:59]
wao	mircea_popescu: did you catch that friends of mine opened only bitcoin caffe?	[21:59]
wao	in Prague	[21:59]
wao	they called it Institue of Cryptoanarchy :)	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mal8zuQyeV1rgj9qto1_500.jpg	[21:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/11ixD4F )	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	there we go, balance is restored.	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	wao not bad.	[22:00]
wao	http://www.paralelnipolis.cz/en/	[22:00]
assbot	Paralelní polis \| Page about Paralelní polis project ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqfoXD )	[22:00]
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wao	Ztohoven art group founded the Cryptoanarchy institute	[22:00]
wao	Ztohoven in english means like One hundred shits	[22:00]
wao	it's pop-art group, which hacked czech parlament	[22:01]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[22:01]
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wao	oh	[22:01]
wao	here its in english http://ztohoven.com/mr/index-en.html	[22:01]
assbot	The Moral Reform ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqfCOz )	[22:01]
wao	our older project ^	[22:01]
wao	we 'hacked' their phones :)	[22:02]
wao	use timeslider there	[22:02]
wao	see the chaos!	[22:02]
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wao	and go with mouse over line	[22:02]
wao	one mistake there was	[22:02]
wao	they found that, that one politic doesnt hold his phone in hand, so how he can send sms? :/	[22:03]
wao	or another was like asleep or sleeping :D	[22:03]
wao	during work hours of parlament :)	[22:03]
mircea_popescu	not bad.	[22:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00046347 = 12.1197 BTC [-]	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	and for our fellow usians watching this : the guy isn't in jale, either.	[22:04]
wao	oh yes, they also did Direct Democracy == published all politics cellphone numbers on wall and attached phone with spoofed sms.	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	because eastern europe is the fucking bastion of western civilisation these days,	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	like the fucking arabs were during the dark ages.	[22:04]
wao	:D	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	which isn't tht far off.	[22:04]
*	wao farts	[22:05]
wao	right.	[22:05]
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wao	here are all messages if you have little time to read it up http://ztohoven.com/mr/msg-en.html	[22:05]
assbot	The Moral Reform - all messages ... ( http://bit.ly/11iy1Ae )	[22:05]
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mircea_popescu	pretty cool	[22:08]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[22:14]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[22:14]

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