Forum logs for 20 Jul 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
decimation asciilifeform: re: solder balls: unfortunately sop these days [00:04]
decimation everything is lightly glued with shit solder [00:04]
asciilifeform decimation: in this case it was on account of the 802.11 thing ('realtek') being a separate pcb [00:05]
decimation ah yeah I see that [00:05]
decimation only on the edges too [00:05]
decimation well, what you expect for $12 [00:05]
asciilifeform the thing works [00:05]
asciilifeform i cut it open in search of an obvious test point for uart [00:06]
asciilifeform (did not find such) [00:06]
decimation I assume that's a bga part (the cpu) [00:06]
asciilifeform cpu and ram were both bga [00:06]
asciilifeform radio (front), eeprom and vreg (back) - conventional [00:07]
decimation sux. they must have ripped out all the debug for production cheapness [00:07]
asciilifeform can read out / rewrite the rom if i had a soic16 crocodile (i presently lack one) [00:07]
asciilifeform got only the familiar soic8 that everyone has [00:07]
asciilifeform there may or may not be a public root exploit for these [00:08]
asciilifeform but i hate to rely on these [00:08]
decimation yeah, also there are probably hardware variants, according to your research [00:08]
asciilifeform on account of them being 'here today, gone tomorrow' [00:09]
asciilifeform (as was with 'chromecast') [00:09]
decimation obviously somebody is pumping these out by the mega-boat load [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25757 @ 0.00059018 = 15.2013 BTC [+] {2} [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2743 @ 0.00059018 = 1.6189 BTC [+] [00:15]
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gabriel_laddel cazalla: how's the wife/child? [00:22]
cazalla gabriel_laddel, good but his tantrums have kicked up a notch and he climbs everything [00:25]
cazalla missus wants another but seems last months attempts didn't strike :P [00:25]
gabriel_laddel "climbs everything" < good to hear he's healthy [00:26]
cazalla he's pretty clever, stacked a couple pillows in order to get up on the tv unit [00:28]
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cazalla enjoys books too which is good but reading jack and the beanstalk for 20th time each day gets a bit much, he's really picked up with that past 1-2 months bring us books to read him [00:31]
gabriel_laddel ! [00:31]
gabriel_laddel sounds like a smart kid, good for you. [00:31]
mod6 asciilifeform: nice pics. protocol? maybe i don't get what you're asking exactly, but it says "D8027G1" [00:32]
cazalla well, all parents like to think that of their kids but time will tell, i've read to him each day since he was born [00:33]
trinque that's a hell of a step in the right direction [00:33]
gabriel_laddel "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" [00:33]
gabriel_laddel "The Wheel of Time" [00:34]
gabriel_laddel trilema.com [00:34]
gabriel_laddel maybe that last one gets pushed back a few years [00:34]
cazalla perhaps trilema when he is a bit older (side note - the story about the boy and the tree is a good one i'll read to him when a little older) [00:35]
cazalla http://trilema.com/2013/a-story-of-a-boy-and-a-tree/ [00:35]
assbot A story of a boy and a tree on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JaKoRZ ) [00:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97300 @ 0.00059067 = 57.4722 BTC [+] {3} [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00059129 = 21.3456 BTC [+] {2} [00:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.15099999 = 1.359 BTC [+] {2} [00:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.15090322 = 1.509 BTC [-] {2} [00:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.15099999 = 1.51 BTC [+] {2} [00:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.15090322 = 1.509 BTC [-] {2} [00:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.15099999 = 1.057 BTC [+] [00:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 11 @ 0.15090322 = 1.6599 BTC [-] {2} [00:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.15099999 = 1.661 BTC [+] {2} [00:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.15090322 = 1.8108 BTC [-] {2} [00:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.15099999 = 1.359 BTC [+] [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.15090322 = 1.8108 BTC [-] {2} [01:01]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, jurov, mircea_popescu, et al: found the test pads on that 'miracast' thing. they were, unsurprisingly, under the sticker. [01:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.15099999 = 1.812 BTC [+] {2} [01:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.15090322 = 1.509 BTC [-] [01:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.15099999 = 1.963 BTC [+] {2} [01:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 14 @ 0.15090322 = 2.1126 BTC [-] {2} [01:07]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.15099999 = 1.963 BTC [+] {2} [01:09]
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decimation http://spacenews.com/china-eyes-purchase-of-sea-launch-assets/ < "Struggling commercial launch-service provider Sea Launch AG and its owner, Energia of Russia, are in talks with the Chinese government on selling the Sea Launch command ship and launch platform to Chinese interests that would station the system in international waters offshore China, industry officials said." [01:40]
assbot China Eyes Purchase of Sea Launch Assets - SpaceNews.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kfufw9 ) [01:40]
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BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3dw01g/worlds_first_bitcoin_only_mmorpg_with_possibility/ [02:17]
assbot Worlds first Bitcoin only MMORPG with possibility to earn actual Satoshi's, Eulora is gaining momentum. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mf1E9D ) [02:17]
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mircea_popescu aww someone got butthurt ? [08:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00058952 = 42.0917 BTC [-] {2} [08:28]
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mircea_popescu 311M 996G LOGDROPIN all -- !lo * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 lulz [08:41]
mircea_popescu incidentally kakobrekla could assbot be changed so instead of dropping a bitly links it drops an archive.today link ? [08:49]
mircea_popescu at least get an archive for teh effort. [08:49]
kakobrekla ill check [08:49]
mircea_popescu danke [08:49]
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mircea_popescu !up hazirafel [08:53]
-assbot- You voiced hazirafel for 30 minutes. [08:53]
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hazirafel would you use a program that sends bitcoin to the cruch of satane very time you enter facebook? [08:53]
hazirafel curch [08:54]
mircea_popescu i don't have a facebook ? [08:54]
mircea_popescu and what's "enter" anyway, every time you load a webpage that pulls their fucktarded button ? [08:54]
hazirafel good [08:54]
hazirafel no [08:54]
mircea_popescu for that matter what's "the church of satan" [08:54]
mircea_popescu well no. why not. [08:54]
hazirafel google it [08:54]
hazirafel oks [08:55]
mircea_popescu google is not in my wot. [08:55]
hazirafel look it up in the phone book :) [08:55]
cazalla hazirafel, why the CoS instead of some other charity? [08:56]
hazirafel just a thought [08:57]
hazirafel something not liked/funny [08:57]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2EASGTJ << the denyin reference for that 311M pkts logdropin thing, on the off chance anyone gives a shit about the details [08:58]
mircea_popescu pro tip : if your AN is in there you're a fucktard, i don't care if your name is "verizon" [08:58]
mircea_popescu s/AN/ASN/ [08:59]
cazalla hazirafel, i would suggest the Human Fund [08:59]
mircea_popescu heh [09:00]
hazirafel this? http://www.the-human-fund.org/heritage/ [09:01]
assbot About — The Human Fund ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmJlAa ) [09:01]
cazalla whatever [09:02]
hazirafel thanks [09:02]
mircea_popescu ahahaha what! [09:02]
mircea_popescu hazirafel it's a seinfeld reference. [09:03]
mircea_popescu and here's something to bother my man cazalla : http://38.media.tumblr.com/d79ced52386260419f282a6cbea59cc0/tumblr_n5oxc1uPJp1trwqu4o1_400.gif [09:03]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmJBiF ) [09:03]
cazalla lol why would that bother me [09:03]
hazirafel art [09:04]
mircea_popescu a well, was worth a shot. [09:04]
cazalla speaking of Seinfeld.. "On Wednesday (April 29) the online streaming service Hulu struck a deal with the “show about nothing,” paying $700,000 per episode ($130 million) for the rights to add the series to its already stellar lineup." [09:06]
mircea_popescu not bad [09:13]
mircea_popescu dude makes money while sleeping. [09:14]
hazirafel heh [09:17]
hazirafel maybe i'll watch the episode [09:18]
mircea_popescu btw cazalla qntra should be back now. not sure how long it'll hold, but - publish anything you may have backing up your publishpipes [09:21]
mircea_popescu and archive the pages lol. [09:21]
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cazalla thankfully it's been quiet, BingoBoingo might have one or had one in mind though [09:23]
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mircea_popescu aww. [09:25]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell nanaki find a better hobby, what can i tell you. [09:26]
gribble The operation succeeded. [09:26]
mircea_popescu my quest to disturb cazalla continues. http://38.media.tumblr.com/8824129a0d3e247174ee10e89fd30918/tumblr_myl0k5QvGj1qjhn09o2_400.gif [09:27]
cazalla that's a pretty fail attempt tbh [09:28]
mircea_popescu ;/ [09:29]
mircea_popescu ima go cut [09:29]
mircea_popescu some grass now. [09:29]
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cazalla sok for another woman to lick an ass, just don't ask me to do it, sorta how fucking twins is fine as you're not the one committing incest [09:29]
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mircea_popescu how are you not lol [09:30]
mircea_popescu you think the married woman is committing adultery alone ? [09:31]
kakobrekla whats the difference between female tongue and male tongue ??? [09:31]
mircea_popescu female tongue is split [09:32]
mircea_popescu no wait, i was thinking of the wrong species. [09:32]
cazalla kakobrekla, i don't know, it's not about that anyway, i just don't fancy sticking my tongue there but to each their own [09:32]
mircea_popescu cazalla well you realise if your bar for being bothered is "being pictures of ME doing things", i got god's own work cut out for me here... [09:33]
cazalla mircea_popescu, how is it an incestous act for me if i am not related to them? [09:33]
mircea_popescu cuz you're in it. [09:34]
cazalla fuck, so be it then if it mean doing twins [09:34]
mircea_popescu ehehe. [09:35]
mircea_popescu problem with doing twins is that, like anything else in life, you get used to it. [09:35]
cazalla and nothing much bothers me, why should i be bothered someone else enjoys giving rimjobs [09:35]
cazalla i'll have to take your word for it as this is a problem i doubt i will ever have [09:36]
mircea_popescu anyway. my grassy knoll awaits. later! [09:36]
cazalla it's only smellz [09:42]
shinohai http://gizmodo.com/hackers-threaten-to-expose-40-million-cheating-ashleyma-1718965334 [09:50]
assbot Hackers Threaten to Expose 37 Million Cheating AshleyMadison Users ... ( http://bit.ly/1TLVEr6 ) [09:50]
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decimation my blk0009.dat diverges from mod6's too - one of my blk0008.dat matches his (sha256sums). Something weird happens in blk0009 (approx block height < 300k) [11:42]
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decimation my blk0009.dat 6f230687f04b41d5cc3d5f3b9cdd497c1b9103394eeda96cef1d0998b3c5d185 : I'm syncing from ascii's node using 'stator' [11:43]
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* shinohai should try a resync to ascii's node [11:43]
mod6 as a reminder tho, those hashes of my .dat files were from "the wild" sync. [11:44]
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mod6 i'll be revisiting this not too long from now with some hashes from mp's orig chain [11:45]
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shinohai @ mod6 does the MP node sync past the phork now? [11:48]
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mod6 haven't gotten there yet on nsl's node [11:49]
mod6 height=351462 [11:49]
shinohai ah k [11:49]
mod6 my openbsd one is crawling along. [11:49]
shinohai I haven't synced stator yet. My release 0.5.3 is still up always though. [11:50]
mod6 height=205332 [11:50]
mod6 0.5.3.1 ? [11:50]
shinohai yeah that one [11:50]
mod6 nice, what block are you on? [11:50]
shinohai 366172 it updated but on regular blockchain [11:51]
mod6 did it sync the same way from block 0->current in the same manner, i.e. by finding nodes all over irc? [11:53]
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shinohai mod6 yes it only connected to irc nodes i guess, since it is before the irc demolition. [11:55]
mod6 good deal man. [11:56]
shinohai pogo is on hold until I get an ssd, still is a great chat server [11:56]
mod6 thanks for reporting back on that [11:56]
mod6 haha, pogo chat server? [11:56]
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shinohai It's nice being the first guy to destroy a SATA installing arch on a pogo [11:56]
mod6 it bricked the drive? [11:57]
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shinohai yeah. made a screech and was gone. I have had that one forever though. I got 5 more old satas but I should just do things right with an ssd [12:00]
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mod6 yikes, threw a bering 'eh [12:01]
shinohai yup [12:01]
mod6 well, thanks for putting in the effort to test this stuff, we appreciate it. [12:01]
mod6 effort & parts! [12:02]
shinohai I love this shit, takes me a bit of time to catch up with you warriors, but I'm getting there. [12:02]
mod6 for sure. thanks, we need all the help we can get. [12:03]
shinohai Buying a pogo with btc that was on my 0.5.3. node was kinda cool too. [12:04]
asciilifeform i thought everybody knew, at this point, that one cannot expect to end up with same blkxxxx at all times, on account of forklets. [12:05]
shinohai I kinda figured that but what can you do. [12:06]
asciilifeform in other nyooz, 69 active connections on s.nsa's node. [12:06]
asciilifeform new recordz every day. [12:06]
mod6 <+asciilifeform> i thought everybody knew, at this point, that one cannot expect to end up with same blkxxxx at all times, on account of forklets. << yeah i recall. [12:07]
mod6 i guess more importantly than that, im gonna do a for(0->366XXX) dump of each block and hash it, compare it to the list that you ended up with ascii. [12:07]
asciilifeform somebody found a bug in 'blkcut' but did not follow up re: replicating [12:08]
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mod6 69! yeah, we need more nodes. [12:08]
asciilifeform ( danielpbarron ? ) [12:08]
mod6 is this the one where blkcut error made it fall over? [12:08]
asciilifeform aha [12:08]
shinohai asciilifeform: which is the nsa lab node at again? [12:09]
mod6 same ip [12:10]
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asciilifeform 195.211.154.159:8333 [12:10]
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shinohai @ mod6 when I raise a few more btc and a few bugs worked out, I am going to put 2 more up, one at my gf's house and one at my friends. [12:11]
mod6 heheh. well, just make sure if you /do/ put up a node, it is somewhat phasar resistant [12:12]
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mod6 I'm gonna put up a few too, but gotta wait about 6 wks. [12:12]
mod6 ;/ [12:12]
shinohai me too. First ssd, then expansion. >;3 [12:13]
asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://xkcd.com/1553 [12:14]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:14]
assbot xkcd: Public Key ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbHqgh ) [12:14]
shinohai dat comic [12:14]
mod6 haha [12:16]
shinohai Also, if anyone needs proofreaing and ed work done this week I am free to work :D [12:18]
mod6 actually... [12:19]
mod6 if you're looking for something to keep you busy for an evening, you can test out the gentoo x86-64 nomultilib guide [12:19]
mod6 :] [12:19]
mod6 we need a 3rd person to verify this thing so i can finally send it to the lst. [12:19]
shinohai link me. I have never installed gentoo in my life, but a good time to learn [12:20]
mod6 ah, yeah, so ... this guide is for a physical box (takes you through using livecd) -- if you wanna set it up in a VM im sure you can do something similar with a livecd, just hvae to attach the iso file to the virtual dvd/cdrom drive.. and probably follow the same steps. [12:22]
mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt && http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-uclibc-hardened-guide-wFullExamples.txt [12:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbIAZ3 ) [12:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbID76 ) [12:23]
mod6 bah. ignore that second one. that's for uclibc. [12:23]
mod6 here's the second one with full examples for nomultilib: http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide-wFullExamples.txt [12:24]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbIHnx ) [12:24]
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shinohai Thanks mod6 I'll get on it this evenin' [12:24]
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mod6 shinohai: awesome! no rush either. when you get time is cool. let me know how it goes, i'll be around to answer q's. [12:27]
shinohai np an education is a terrible thing to waste. [12:28]
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mod6 the first doc is just the commands you need, so it's kinda cut/pasteable. the second is the commands with their output so you can get a sense of what you should expect to see. [12:28]
shinohai I'm a masochist and type everything LOL [12:29]
mod6 haha, no worries. that's fine too. [12:29]
shinohai Time is the most important asset for testing. I still want to prove that a small group can outproduce the "bitcoin foundation" sans their immense budget they blew. [12:31]
asciilifeform outproduce ? [12:33]
shinohai outproduce: Make a better product. [12:33]
shinohai Or a more high-performing one. [12:36]
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trinque RUN MOAR GENTOO [14:16]
asciilifeform ? [14:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52808 @ 0.00056298 = 29.7298 BTC [+] [14:20]
shinohai whelp it seems pogos make excellent mining controllers, not that I mine anymore. [14:30]
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trinque asciilifeform: sincerely. [14:35]
trinque shinohai: guide's really easy [14:35]
shinohai Looks so trinque, and I hopped on craigslist and bought a shitty laptop for $100 [14:36]
trinque nice. [14:36]
shinohai So new toy for later yay [14:36]
trinque they've got "Free Geek" here for scrap [14:37]
trinque I tend to make my way there once a week or so [14:37]
shinohai I wish we had something like that here. I blow so much on used equipment xD [14:38]
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trinque shinohai: sometimes goodwill also has an electronics dept, depending on where you're at [14:39]
shinohai Yeah but they have incredibly shitty electronics at our Goodwill. I usually troll craigslist and sometimes get free parts. [14:40]
shinohai But today, pickings were slim and I needed a spare lappy [14:40]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform ty but no :D [14:54]
mircea_popescu shinohai working on the 950kb bogus block atm. [14:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: working how? single-stepping the thing ? [14:57]
shinohai Thank you for your continued dedication. [14:58]
mircea_popescu poor mod6 no time to mine because all this foundation stuff fell on his head. [14:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform basically. [14:59]
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mod6 haha [15:05]
mircea_popescu to continue the chick in rubber skin thread, http://38.media.tumblr.com/c42b2ab51e7e9e85ad0c04c935504746/tumblr_n3u2tstiHD1rnqh33o2_r1_500.gif [15:05]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mga9S0 ) [15:05]
mircea_popescu incidentally, anyone amused at how the "mainstream media" took all of five seconds to decide random white dude was "racially motivated" blowing up a black church, wheras they're still "trying to look for motives" that paki dude shot up the marines ? [15:14]
mircea_popescu sandniggers can't be raceist! [15:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this apparatus works, i was told, like the ubiquitous kitchen vacuum sealer machine. but with an airhole. it is popular where i live, i was told. [15:14]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite so yes. [15:14]
mircea_popescu and i suspect all this is autism related and should prolly be a med insurance deductable, like kinetotherapy. [15:15]
asciilifeform kinda reminds me of the 'why not connect air compressor to the tuba' concept [15:15]
asciilifeform not everything oughta be mechanized [15:15]
mircea_popescu there is this particular thing in autists where being compressed widely helps [15:16]
asciilifeform the chick who told me about the vacuum bed was into it as a straight bdsm thing iirc [15:18]
trinque man that thing makes me uncomfortable [15:27]
trinque anybody ever wants my launch codes, there's the way [15:27]
asciilifeform peine forte et dure !! [15:28]
trinque mircea_popescu: I could see it being nice for people with sensory overload issues [15:31]
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lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Sven Arnold ; ) [15:56]
shinohai Another one bites the dust. [15:57]
trinque mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf? [15:59]
trinque and more generally, any recommended practices? [15:59]
* trinque has found the openbsd manpages to be in a class of their own [15:59]
trinque exceptionally thorough [16:00]
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mod6 trinque: what are you trying to achieve? [16:06]
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trinque mod6: best practices for home router with several hosts behind it [16:07]
mod6 im not positive (i don't have access to my pf.conf atm) that i've ever used random-id. i think that's for a very specific problem. but yeah you probably /do/ want scrub all reassemble tcp [16:08]
trinque cool, am doing that [16:08]
mod6 looks like you can use random-id for some normalizatoin purposes... main thing is here, read the pf.conf man page 2x and then build up your firewall and use the heck outta tcpdump to ensure what your rule set is as you want it. [16:13]
mod6 start simple, then build in more complexity as only necessary. [16:13]
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BingoBoingo Looks like Qntra survived this weekend better than Gawker did https://archive.is/joOPE [16:18]
BingoBoingo mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf? << Haven't used either of those yet. Pretty much use block, pass, and queue [16:20]
trinque k [16:22]
trinque former seems like handling internal host derpage (winblowz for example) [16:22]
trinque latter seems to have to do with hiding facts about the inner network topology [16:22]
BingoBoingo Then don't have derpy internal hosts [16:22]
trinque yeah [16:23]
trinque maybe asciilifeform's perspective on mitigations applies to the latter [16:24]
trinque rather, both [16:24]
asciilifeform wai wat [16:35]
trinque asciilifeform: re aslr and other things [16:35]
trinque seemed to be a point about superficial mitigations vs fixing the underlying issue [16:35]
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trinque in this case it'd be as BingoBoingo said, don't have fucking dumb hosts that can't TCP [16:36]
* asciilifeform does not play whackamole [16:36]
* asciilifeform will not encourage others to play it [16:36]
trinque yeah [16:36]
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punkman https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177298 [16:41]
trinque braindamage [16:42]
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mod6 asciilifeform: ever get a chance to look at those bins? [16:43]
asciilifeform unfortunately not [16:43]
mod6 np. it can wait for a bit. [16:43]
mod6 the openssl configure script (perl lel) seems to indicate that no-shared is the default -- but i wanna be sure. [16:44]
mod6 openssl-1.0.1g # grep "my $no_shared" Configure my $no_shared=0; # but "no-shared" is default [16:45]
scoopbot_revived Ashley Madison Hacked http://qntra.net/2015/07/ashley-madison-hacked/ [16:45]
mod6 wat [16:45]
mod6 oh [16:45]
asciilifeform 'and leaving their interesting and activities oriented towards extramarital dating exposed.' << ? [16:46]
mod6 strangely worded [16:47]
trinque might've meant "interest" [16:47]
trinque whole sentence needs to be chopped and screwed [16:48]
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BingoBoingo https://archive.is/Bvp9c << Just in case [16:56]
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mircea_popescu hanbot heh [16:57]
asciilifeform l0l! [16:58]
mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu, who is opposed to scalability due to his vocal disdain for “the poor” [16:58]
mircea_popescu derp. [16:58]
mircea_popescu i am not opposed "to scalability". i am opposed to very specific idiocy for very clearly delineated technical reasons. [16:59]
hanbot srsly, why's "the poor" in quotes?! [16:59]
mircea_popescu i just don't happen to be clueless enough to confuse those for "Scalability". considering i am not actually a technical expert, this reflects very poorly opn the intellectual abilities and assorted scholarship of random derps opining on nasdaq.com [16:59]
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mircea_popescu and in any case - it's not some "disain for the poor" that's at work. just because everyone is on a (mostly hypocritical) fixation on loving the poor does not make my position disdain [17:00]
mircea_popescu i merely do not give enough of a shit about the cause celebre du jour to neglect technical arguments for its sake. [17:00]
mircea_popescu if anyone still has a twitter account, maybe link the derp to the above. you never know when athlete face learns something from the internets. [17:01]
mircea_popescu "The views and opinions expressed herein are the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of The NASDAQ OMX Group, Inc." mmmmkay... then why are you publishing it ? [17:02]
mircea_popescu "oh, because fiat glbse is so desperate for <> they're resorting to the politically correct version of spun content & keyword stuffing" ? kthx. [17:03]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: fxd [17:04]
mircea_popescu if my father weren't a total fuckwit, he'd have told me "my son, you'll make a billion dollars before you'll read a two page item about you that manages to eschew glaring errors". [17:04]
mircea_popescu that'd have been interesting to know twenty years ago. [17:05]
mircea_popescu trinque i think the manuals are the secret reason keeping any bsd userbase. [17:06]
mircea_popescu strangely enough, nobody seems to learn anything from this. [17:06]
chetty visa doesn't dicriminate against 'the poor', they just either don't give them credit or charge them bucket for it [17:07]
mircea_popescu Looks like Qntra survived this weekend better than Gawker did https://archive.is/joOPE << kinda hard to keep a job that doesn't come with a salary i guess. [17:07]
trinque mircea_popescu: makes sense, they're excellent. [17:07]
mircea_popescu trinque yeah. more important for a powerful foss than gcc. [17:07]
mircea_popescu the one thing closed source can never do is good docs. [17:07]
mircea_popescu somehow the bright strategic minds involved missed this point. [17:08]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Oh those were the paid, pretentious herders of the unpaid. But since Denton clamped down on their lulz Apparently herding interns is too much nao. [17:08]
BingoBoingo the one thing closed source can never do is good docs. << But then how would they sell support as a seperate product? [17:09]
mod6 I linked him [17:09]
mircea_popescu the "sell support" model has been thoroughly debunked in the field. or at least that's the moral i draw from revierwing history. [17:09]
mircea_popescu the only endpoint for that is where rhel ended up : a cheaper USG Department of Windows. [17:10]
mircea_popescu if that's what you aim to do with your life, go to new york join the police force. [17:10]
mircea_popescu better union, better insurance, etc. [17:10]
BingoBoingo "sell support" worked for cisco and oracle when marketing to the helpless and overencumbered with bezzle [17:11]
mircea_popescu it pointedly did not work foir cisco. [17:11]
mircea_popescu it took them to the same dark place, and recently cost them their entire business. [17:11]
asciilifeform meanwhile i'm about to stand up another node! [17:12]
mircea_popescu yay. [17:12]
mod6 http://twitter.com/modsix/status/623222065982607360 [17:12]
asciilifeform (likely, no sooner than tomorrow noon. but it is cooking, yes) [17:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you paying for the server or just using one already deployed ? [17:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: using a box i've been hiring for years, 'in case' [17:12]
mircea_popescu aha. if you wish to pro-rate towards nsa budget i'll ok it. [17:12]
asciilifeform it's a cheapo box with a 10meg line and 70gb disk [17:13]
asciilifeform probably will fill some time reasonably soon, at which point i'll finally cancel the contract on it [17:13]
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mircea_popescu k [17:13]
asciilifeform gonna stand up more boxes in various places, incl. phriends who expressed interest [17:14]
mircea_popescu cool deal. [17:14]
mircea_popescu lol @ mod6 s twitter location [17:15]
BingoBoingo Not even a year and thing's now something to stand up on boxes [17:15]
mircea_popescu how's the weather this time o year ? [17:15]
mod6 Wonderful :] [17:16]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo incredibru huh ? one alf plows like 1024 chickens. [17:16]
mod6 Can only check teh weather if in assbots L2. Which is very temperate. [17:16]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seriously [17:16]
mircea_popescu ehehe [17:16]
asciilifeform moar patchez in the pipe, too [17:19]
asciilifeform one (optional...!) to set a version string that actually displays to folks like 'bitnodes' [17:20]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/623164818971713536 [17:20]
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asciilifeform and another (also experimental) that adds 'flushmempool' [17:20]
BingoBoingo ^ China now doing the biggest SQL join in history. #AshleyMadison #OPMhack [17:21]
asciilifeform l0l [17:21]
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mircea_popescu ahahaha [17:21]
mircea_popescu ". The essence of Gawker has always been what happens when we get out of those meetings and go back to writing and editing the stories you do that no one else can do. " [17:24]
mircea_popescu dude srsly ? [17:24]
mircea_popescu these schmucks actually thought they do something remarkable in any sense ? [17:24]
mircea_popescu fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop [17:25]
mircea_popescu they probably imagine they ever published anything worth reading, too. [17:25]
mircea_popescu nuts. [17:25]
mircea_popescu next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning. [17:25]
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chetty next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.// they aren't? [17:34]
mircea_popescu obviously. [17:34]
mats http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/ct-lockheed-martin-sikorsky-aircraft-20150720-story.html [17:34]
assbot Lockheed Martin to buy Sikorsky Aircraft for $9 billion - Chicago Tribune ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiflTR ) [17:34]
mircea_popescu kinda funny to see the us reduced to the 50th state of the great nation of africa, but then again [17:34]
mircea_popescu not my country, not my problem. [17:34]
shinohai http://www.amazon.com/Baconlube--Flavored-Massage-Personal-Lubricant/dp/B00XQENVUS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437373740&sr=8-1&keywords=bacon+lube [17:35]
assbot Amazon.com: Baconlube- Bacon Flavored Massage Oil & Personal Lubricant by J&D's: Health & Personal Care ... ( http://bit.ly/1OifAhz ) [17:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, the one notable thing re gawker is that the twerps smokling the crack pipe of radical-this-and-that do not have either the intellectual wherewithal to notice nor the mental acumen to actually create THEIR OWN FUCKING BLOGS. [17:36]
scoopbot_revived Kickass Torrents Dropped From Google Search Results http://qntra.net/2015/07/kickass-torrents-dropped-from-google-search-results/ [17:36]
mircea_popescu seriously, you gotta write emails to the staff about stuff like this ? [17:36]
mircea_popescu because why, it's 1715 all over again ? [17:36]
mircea_popescu "oh here's a backroom napkin scribbled with my protest over the culture of backroom dealing these people imported into our fine organisation of delusions of transparency. i am too stupid to understand how ridiculous i'm being. NEOTENY FOR THE VICTORY!!11" [17:38]
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mircea_popescu gawker does "radical transparency" don't you know. when you fuck with me you can read all about it on trilema, but it's gawker that's radically transparent. a bunch of twerps whose names nobody even happens to know. paragons in their own minds of things they don't understand, nor would understand even if they actually tried thinking about 'em. [17:39]
mircea_popescu fucking monkeys already. [17:40]
BingoBoingo http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name [17:43]
assbot AMD Catalyst Linux Driver Performs Wildly Different Based On Program's Name - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OigmLK ) [17:43]
mircea_popescu coming up next, "top 5 best program names for amd compatibility" [17:43]
BingoBoingo Apparently doom3.x86 is a good one [17:45]
BingoBoingo Also a journey to the mind of a Windows User https://archive.is/Kq7JT [17:46]
assbot CEO-011 comments on [CRITICAL] Windows users: Update your machine NOW! ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcDVWW ) [17:46]
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mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg [17:49]
assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg ) [17:49]
mircea_popescu HA-ha! [17:49]
mircea_popescu my suspicions... [17:49]
mircea_popescu now if it also worked... [17:50]
kakobrekla what [17:50]
kakobrekla click de archive this url. [17:51]
kakobrekla or ? [17:52]
mircea_popescu ah two clicks away. [17:53]
mircea_popescu good enough i guess. [17:53]
kakobrekla that parsing and saving is very slow on some sites and i dunno if we want to hit him with everything ? [17:53]
mircea_popescu yeah makes sense. [17:54]
mircea_popescu if anyone cares they can click. [17:54]
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phf fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop << from a limited experience, that seems like a sop in certain kind of sillicon-valley inspired u.s. company. a combination of "you can do anything!" with worst sort of delusions of grandeur. [20:02]
phf ties nicely with that tlp article about "the real me" [20:03]
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trinque phf: yeah, these companies practically force their employees to take part in it [20:12]
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gernika That's the reason I can't work as a startup employee anymore: they want you to *believe* [20:13]
trinque can't just do your job; you have to be drunk on whatever half-assed propaganda they came up with [20:13]
trinque gernika: indeed. [20:13]
* trinque tosses "passionate" on the american pyre [20:14]
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phf i worked for one such company last year, joined out of curiousity, but stayed to finish projects i was responsible for. the amount of dysfunctional behavior was staggering. [20:19]
phf they had socially mandatory fist bumps, instead of hand shakes, by way of greeting. [20:21]
phf ceo would regularly send out "vote for us as the best place to work in the city", "vote for me as the best ceo" [20:22]
gernika phf Did you have to endure a hackathon? [20:24]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207955 << ample precedent for this crap. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 -- and also that famous find where 'skype' turned out to slow deliberately when CPUID instruction returned something other than intel [20:25]
assbot Logged on 20-07-2015 20:40:05; BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name [20:25]
assbot Loper OS » How to un-break graphical Java apps under Ratpoison ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 ) [20:25]
phf gernika: i didn't have to endure much, except shortage of competent underlings, but i witnessed cto organizing hackathon for other teams, and it was painful. blind leading the blind [20:26]
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asciilifeform ;;isup qntra.net [20:26]
gribble qntra.net is down [20:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al ^ [20:26]
asciilifeform http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 << extra-lulzy [20:28]
assbot The Crypto-Cold War: Bitcoin's Politics of Scalability - NASDAQ.com ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 ) [20:28]
phf it took me a while to even realize that the majority of employees had less then 3 years of programming experience, majority of managers had no software project experiences, etc. i didn't really understand until experiencing it first hand, that a large software company can be so utterly dysfunctional. and yet "we're all winners!" [20:30]
asciilifeform dafuq is a 'hackathon' ? [20:31]
asciilifeform newspeak for 'deathmarch' ? [20:31]
trinque you get pizza and beer and invite shmoes off the street to come "hack" [20:32]
trinque and expect them to ... not sure what [20:32]
trinque "ideate" [20:32]
mats solve problems for free! [20:32]
phf we had a better thing than hackathon. a small group of junior developers were tasked with designing a curriculum and writing tutorials for training people with zero computer skills to become rails developers. to, i shit you not, "help disadvantaged peoples". [20:35]
trinque the concept was obviously shat by marketing people who believed in the myth of "the weekend app that made a million bezzlars" [20:35]
trinque obviously if it worked for "them" it'll solve all our corporate dysfunction [20:36]
trinque phf: do what now? [20:36]
gernika trinque that type of hackathon is innocuous compared to mandated hackathons at work. [20:36]
trinque phf: like this was gonna get some bum off the street, making rails sites? [20:37]
trinque gernika: yeah, the one where they fucked up project management so you're gonna ship this weekend by god! [20:37]
gernika At one such hackathon, employees were encouraged to spend the night in the office. [20:37]
trinque all of these people are useless [20:37]
phf trinque: i was at one "interview" with a guy with zero programmer experience, straight from "you can do anything!" video, we're talking "dropped out of art degree to become a waiter, but hours were brutal, so i want to become a programmer" [20:38]
trinque clearly the only thing preventing idiocracy is that it could never get that far [20:38]
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trinque phf: seems to come from an american notion that you get ahead by pulling one over on everyone else [20:40]
trinque there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all [20:40]
trinque and it surely isn't competent people working hard, anything but that [20:41]
trinque the greatest thing you can be is a 20 year old billionaire that blasted off doing something pedestrian [20:41]
gernika There was one hackathon which, at the time I hated, but in retrospect had some redeeming value to it. People formed their own teams and worked on their own ideas and at the end, the CEO judged the results. [20:44]
gernika CEO told our team ours sucked. [20:44]
phf that's an old school notion, trickster as a hero and all that, but i don't think this is that. these people are not even hustlers, i don't think there's any awareness there. [20:44]
gernika Which, hey - would good if that happened more. Sadly the CEO's own idea turned out to suck and the startup went out of business. [20:45]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: soldered pogo-style ttl serial probe to the 'miracast'. this yielded a straight root shell in ~5 seconds after powerup. [21:01]
phf asciilifeform: btw hackthons used to be face to face development sessions by free software teams, when they had opportunity to all congregate at some location. coined afair by theo, but went the same way as "open" and such [21:02]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt [21:02]
assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt ) [21:02]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: lastly, http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt [21:04]
assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt ) [21:04]
decimation asciilifeform: lol no login [21:09]
asciilifeform it's a serial port [21:09]
asciilifeform thing inside is an extremely cut-down linux [21:10]
asciilifeform (big fat surprise, it has to live in that 8MB eeprom) [21:10]
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phf heh, qijialiang@CVN-SERVER [21:11]
asciilifeform the last time i plugged the thing into a display, i configured it to sit down on a wireless lan [21:11]
asciilifeform so it can access the net, yes [21:11]
gabriel_laddel "there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all " << hahaha [21:11]
asciilifeform no telnet server though, so it might have to get new rom (and flasher) via 'xmodem' or the like [21:11]
asciilifeform this is probably the smallest - masswise and volumewise - linux box that i've ever owned [21:12]
asciilifeform 30 grams or so [21:12]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [21:13]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0RHSK1S.txt ) [21:13]
gabriel_laddel IMHO, hackathons are at their core a good thing - all implementations thus far have been terrible. [21:14]
gabriel_laddel "play with computers & new friends" [21:14]
gabriel_laddel yay [21:14]
trinque sure, throw competent people into a room, give 'em toys, sounds great [21:14]
asciilifeform 'eat fine dinner and fuck AT THE SAME TIME !' [21:14]
trinque lol [21:15]
asciilifeform not everything wants to happen at same time [21:15]
mircea_popescu ;;isup qntra.net [21:16]
gribble qntra.net is up [21:16]
mircea_popescu kthen [21:16]
mats mircea_popescu: how long do you plan to keep the legal research project open? [21:17]
mircea_popescu mats well until completion. [21:17]
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mircea_popescu for sure can't close it with all the work you put into it. [21:17]
phf gabriel_laddel: original meaning is "remote team briefly works face to face". i think hackathons without shared context and common goal are fundamentally misguided [21:18]
mircea_popescu mats ftr, we're here : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-05-2015#1132541 [21:18]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 03:32:27; mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66 [21:18]
mircea_popescu just in case you missed that. [21:19]
mircea_popescu phf not so different from any other hot topic tshirt. [21:19]
phf nothing new [21:21]
asciilifeform anybody else here has 'miracast' device ? [21:21]
asciilifeform (or any of the 1,001 clones) [21:21]
gabriel_laddel phf: Sure, as "fundamentally misguided" as any other meetup for young people. [21:22]
gabriel_laddel phf: but whatever, I'm not against chess club [21:22]
gabriel_laddel well, actually I'm against chess club [21:22]
gabriel_laddel math club then [21:22]
asciilifeform chess isn't trying to build infrastructure [21:22]
asciilifeform or teach surgery [21:22]
asciilifeform to paraphrase naggum, yes, i am against surgery club for kidz [21:22]
asciilifeform (or perhaps i am enthusiastically for it, but only because misanthropy) [21:23]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel sure, but there's meetup of young people ie team + cheerleaders on the bus back from game away ; and then there's the meetup of young people ie, jay explains to preteens what the clit is. [21:23]
mircea_popescu he's young too. mentally. [21:23]
gabriel_laddel I was never party to either of those, so idk [21:24]
mircea_popescu why are you against chess club ? [21:24]
gabriel_laddel chess has been solved [21:25]
mircea_popescu fucking, idem. [21:25]
mircea_popescu incidentally : someone should start an "abortion club" trollage/moral panic. whereby you convince "the media" that the latest fad among teenagers is abortion club. "you gotta have one to be someone!" [21:26]
asciilifeform iirc there is abortion porn [21:26]
mircea_popescu "the latest dangerous fad to sweep our nation's junior high scene since that faux story about fermented shit we came up with out of nowhere." [21:26]
asciilifeform (definitely there was a few storiez on usenet/asstr) [21:26]
asciilifeform jekem! [21:26]
asciilifeform l0l [21:26]
mircea_popescu global derping! [21:27]
trinque my (former) buddy in middle school tried to smoke the banana peels [21:27]
asciilifeform i learned of the jekem crap from uncle al, incidentally [21:27]
mircea_popescu i think the banana peels thing was a different one. [21:27]
asciilifeform those were in the 'anarchist cookbook' [21:27]
asciilifeform along with 1,001 other frauds [21:28]
trinque yeah, I think that's where he got it [21:28]
trinque kid was scared to smoke weed, though [21:28]
trinque wtf? [21:28]
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asciilifeform woah did gavin trip over his mains cable or what? [21:29]
asciilifeform where is the tx spam ?! [21:29]
BingoBoingo chess has been solved << not quite [21:29]
mircea_popescu mains ?CABLE ? [21:29]
mircea_popescu i fear to think of your living arrangements! [21:29]
* asciilifeform does not have this problem [21:30]
asciilifeform has proper ducts, like adults, now [21:30]
cazalla trinque, don't forget nutmeg! [21:30]
mircea_popescu is that a def lepard album ? [21:31]
mircea_popescu o no wait, it was "careful with that axe, eugene" not "trinque, don't forget the nutmeg". [21:31]
mircea_popescu my bad. [21:31]
asciilifeform where is the spam [21:33]
asciilifeform life is so empty without it [21:33]
asciilifeform did the fed run out of coin [21:33]
mircea_popescu failed to impressed, is at home crying in pillow ? [21:34]
asciilifeform the miracast almost makes me wish i had a tv set. would plug it in, watch blockchain go [21:35]
trinque lol what [21:35]
trinque cazalla: nutmeg? [21:35]
mats mircea_popescu: part V is covered in the first signed message, it follows the list of cases http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 and i chose trilema as the venue for public review [21:35]
assbot So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( https://archive.is/http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 ) [21:35]
trinque mircea_popescu: bahahaha [21:36]
mircea_popescu mats and 4 ? [21:36]
trinque https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 << my god, he did nutmeg and he could think any thought he wanted! [21:39]
assbot Erowid Experience Vaults: Nutmeg - Not at all what I expected! - 21663 ... ( https://archive.is/https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 ) [21:39]
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asciilifeform when i took organic chem at uni, for some reason 'extract myristicin from the nutmeg' was the first lab session [21:40]
* asciilifeform did not eat it, on account of recalling that it is one of the 'bad' hallucinogens [21:40]
trinque heh, sure, and his "dose" was 5 teaspoons [21:43]
trinque of the nutmeg itself [21:43]
mats mircea_popescu: i can build a table for 4 (total score, number of cases), but what sort of statistical data are you looking for? the set is small and idk how you'd judge the quality of the data [21:44]
mircea_popescu im not looking for anything too elaborate. do a formal "here's everything" bit and i'll call it good. [21:44]
mircea_popescu "the sample is small and not much to be said" is after all statistical analysis, perfectly adequate for a sample that is small and not much to be said. [21:45]
cazalla trinque, preddy sure nut meg was in some cook book alongside banana skins ( i tried both afterall) [21:47]
punkman "The vulnerability in Microsoft Font Driver could allow remote code execution if a user opens a specially crafted document or visits an untrusted webpage that contains embedded OpenType fonts. " [21:49]
trinque I chewed some baby woodrose seeds one time, was pretty weird [21:49]
mats plenty of font bugs left [21:50]
asciilifeform http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg << http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datasheets/S25FL128S_256S_00.pdf >> short sck and si lines, apparently throws the cpu into bootloader, can then rewrite rom via usb [21:50]
assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg ) [21:50]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207973 << /me does and will! [21:54]
assbot Logged on 20-07-2015 20:51:39; mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click. [21:54]
cazalla trinque, i think i remembe that one and something about soaking them [21:54]
trinque yup, that was it [21:58]
trinque and if feeling vaguely shitty and weak visuals are your thing, they're great! [21:58]
BingoBoingo Empire of Fee-fees https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png [22:00]
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trinque "The Internet's Premier Shitlord Image Host" << wahaha [22:01]
scoopbot_revived The best auction. Ever. http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/ [22:01]
BingoBoingo trinque: Remember it was necessary because Imgur is fat [22:02]
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BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/f0be2298689c860f6c88fe5c534aa8cc.png [22:06]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jddf8i ) [22:06]
trinque gross [22:07]
asciilifeform barfatronic [22:07]
asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-17254 << today's lol [22:10]
assbot Loper OS » Why Hypercard Had to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1JddYGF ) [22:10]
mircea_popescu gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe. [22:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform a hackathon is actually a brilliant idea : take a bunch of kids with cs airs, strip them naked, chain them to desks and let them come out once they did something worthwhile. [22:13]
mircea_popescu i think it's been perverted in the evil clutches of ustardism tho. [22:14]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: substitute in a different profession and see if the above still appears to make sense [22:14]
BingoBoingo Still works [22:14]
asciilifeform e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them build a plane' [22:14]
asciilifeform e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them compose a passable symphony' [22:15]
asciilifeform hope you have good corpse disposal facilities [22:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the only substituteable profession is camwhore. [22:15]
mircea_popescu and it appears to make sense yes. [22:15]
BingoBoingo Lock kids in a room, let out once two have switched kidneys [22:16]
mircea_popescu ahahaha. [22:16]
asciilifeform software as it exists now is largely the result of precisely this kind of process. [22:16]
asciilifeform i am not impressed. [22:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform which is what defines the profession. [22:16]
mircea_popescu you think venetian glassblowing is defined by what they actually did, or by all the glass they could have conceivably blown [22:17]
trinque right, "weekend appz" as I said [22:17]
mircea_popescu on the basis of... glass ? [22:17]
asciilifeform witch doctor in the congo does not define medicine. [22:17]
asciilifeform not now, not ever. [22:17]
mircea_popescu at some point, yes. [22:17]
mircea_popescu at some point congolese witch doctor defined medicine. [22:17]
asciilifeform not when there are actual doctors somewhere. [22:17]
mircea_popescu and at the current point, "programmer" is EXACTLY like "etsy artefactual expert" [22:18]
mircea_popescu but there ARENT actual doctors somewhere. [22:18]
mircea_popescu that's what we're trying to do here, the somewhere. imo not done yet. [22:18]
mircea_popescu so so far - programmer, camwhore, boys and girls. [22:18]
* asciilifeform begs to differ [22:18]
mircea_popescu used to be easy rider and waitress, fiddy years ago [22:18]
mircea_popescu this isn't going towards a meta-programmersclub thing is it ? [22:19]
asciilifeform nah. [22:19]
mircea_popescu where is the place ? do i go to microsoft and learn how programming's done fo real by pros ? [22:19]
asciilifeform mno [22:19]
mircea_popescu or where, nvidia ? foxconn ? [22:19]
asciilifeform mno. [22:19]
mircea_popescu well what, naggum's crypt ? [22:19]
asciilifeform aha [22:20]
asciilifeform or my crypt [22:20]
asciilifeform or perhaps 1,001 other [22:20]
mircea_popescu sorry to tell you, crypts do not cunt in this discussion. [22:20]
mircea_popescu a profession's not an osuary. [22:20]
asciilifeform hey my crypt's in business [22:20]
asciilifeform l0l [22:20]
mircea_popescu lol [22:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, i took this as far as i care to. gotta admit it's a fine if unpleasant argument [22:20]
mircea_popescu i yield the balance of my time, to the future programmers. [22:20]
phf perhaps ITA before bought by google [22:21]
asciilifeform (and the folks i work with - are very much not 'etsy artefactual expert' types) [22:21]
gernika http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208154 << refreshing. [22:21]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 01:08:53; mircea_popescu: gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe. [22:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, you me and everyone else. except nobody can visit. [22:21]
asciilifeform phf: 1,001 places! but none are famous [22:21]
asciilifeform and none lift derps off the street and 'teach' them [22:21]
mircea_popescu a profession's different from a fucking secret society yo. [22:21]
mircea_popescu fundamentally different. [22:21]
asciilifeform not so sure about this [22:21]
trinque asciilifeform: hell I've learned a great deal being *here* [22:22]
mircea_popescu like a wife and a whore : both sore in the cunt, yet not the same deal. [22:22]
mircea_popescu profession specifically means, "dominative of the public discourse on the topic" [22:22]
mircea_popescu which your guys are not. [22:22]
asciilifeform much of history of physical science (arguably the 'good times') were squarely in the 'secret society' days [22:22]
mircea_popescu "physical scientist" was never a profession. [22:22]
asciilifeform public discourse - aha, nasdaq, not mpex [22:22]
asciilifeform alchemist! [22:23]
mircea_popescu for that matter, spinoza was a lens polisher by trade. his profession wasn't "philosopher". that was his hobby. [22:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00056956 = 11.619 BTC [-] {2} [22:23]
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trinque !up Rozal [22:28]
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trinque couple more of those and I'll stop [22:34]
trinque tired of this thing going offline [22:35]
trinque long term fix is ripping out the golang thing and replacing it, meanwhile... bash hairball [22:35]
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* asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation [22:38]
* asciilifeform notices that all of his nodes carry precisely the same tx, but then again they are all peering one another... [22:39]
asciilifeform https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/128.8.124.7-8333 << l0l, poor buggers are wedged [22:41]
assbot 128.8.124.7:8333 - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLgFEL ) [22:41]
asciilifeform i oughta knock on their door and tell'em [22:41]
asciilifeform esp. funny considering that they portscan planet 24/7 and try to -addnode to everybody who answers [22:42]
asciilifeform (incl. even us) [22:42]
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trinque alright, that sob checks his underwear via cron and restarts if need be [22:43]
trinque someone give me a shout if he disappears again [22:43]
scoopbot_revived Prepare to be insanely, incredibly, very very jealous with envy! http://trilema.com/2015/prepare-to-be-insanely-incredibly-very-very-jealous-with-envy/ [22:47]
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* asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner [22:59]
asciilifeform ideal application - small circuit, precious-little comms with outside world, etc [23:00]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2013#429461 << old threadz, for n00bz [23:02]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2013 17:13:53; asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains. [23:02]
asciilifeform http://www.righto.com/2014/09/why-z-80s-data-pins-are-scrambled.html << unrelated, historical lulz [23:05]
assbot Why the Z-80's data pins are scrambled ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLj5U3 ) [23:05]
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asciilifeform and for some more lulz. tried to find some material re: 'non-outsourceable puzzles', vaguely recalled that it was an idea whereby mining pool is made impossible on account of any participant being able to undetectably claim the entire reward for himself. then learned that there is no such field, properly speaking, as 'non-outsourceable puzzles', and that it was a crackpot creation of miller (the one featured in http://trilema. [23:11]
asciilifeform com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring ) [23:11]
mats deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt [23:12]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV ) [23:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45291 @ 0.00058092 = 26.3104 BTC [+] {3} [23:12]
asciilifeform neato! [23:13]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu awake ? [23:13]
mats trinque: anything wrong with deedbot? [23:15]
trinque clearly there is [23:21]
trinque oh, no that's the wrong syntax [23:21]
trinque just deedbot- [23:21]
trinque mats: ^ [23:21]
mats deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt [23:21]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV ) [23:21]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [23:21]
mats syntax changed huh [23:21]
trinque yeah, there were complaints, mistakes were made, those responsible were sacked [23:22]
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