Forum logs for 21 Jul 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [07:11]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [07:11]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 [07:11]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice. [07:11]
* tych0 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [07:22]
* mike_c has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [07:23]
* tych0 (~tycho@162.243.9.74) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:29]
mircea_popescu !up tych0 [07:31]
* #bitcoin-assets :Cannot send to channel [07:31]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [07:31]
* Guest58663 (uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whtojsqipxtfrkaa) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:40]
mircea_popescu !up Guest58663 [07:44]
-assbot- You voiced Guest58663 for 30 minutes. [07:44]
* assbot gives voice to Guest58663 [07:44]
* Guest58663 has quit (Changing host) [07:44]
* Guest58663 (uid31665@unaffiliated/rdymac) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:44]
* wilhelm.freenode.net gives voice to Guest58663 [07:44]
* ChanServ removes voice from Guest58663 [07:44]
* Guest58663 has quit (Changing host) [07:44]
* Guest58663 (uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whtojsqipxtfrkaa) has joined #bitcoin-assets [07:44]
* Guest58663 is now known as rdymac [07:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 29.26357267 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 5 satoshi per share [07:51]
mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/02MWWGK.txt [07:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpJvXw ) [07:52]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [07:52]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208225 << no. because everyone that starts an attempt gets spooked by the results. [07:53]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 01:35:44; *: asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation [07:53]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes. [07:54]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 01:56:22; *: asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner [07:54]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208243 << coolness. [07:55]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 02:09:06; mats: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt [07:55]
mircea_popescu so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out. [07:58]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208447 [07:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [07:58]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 10:55:19; mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out. [07:58]
mircea_popescu and hanbot and whoever else took an interest in this. [07:58]
* SuchWow has quit (Quit: This too, as most things are, is temporary) [07:59]
* BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:00]
mircea_popescu "请买我的书" lmao [08:01]
* assbot gives voice to BingoBoingo [08:01]
* SuchWow (~SuchWow@unaffiliated/suchwow) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:03]
mircea_popescu users by lines, last 7 days 1.) assbot 1151 2.) mircea_popescu 1111 3.) asciilifeform 1087 << the closest it's been! [08:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208376 << top kek. [08:04]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 04:47:34; cazalla: le guardian http://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg [08:05]
mircea_popescu "our culture" [08:05]
mircea_popescu stupid bitch. she ain't no part of any culture. [08:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00055808 = 8.7619 BTC [-] [08:08]
* BingoBoingo took advantage of this Qntra downtime to update OpenBSD to 5.7 release and then compile/install 5.7 stable [08:08]
mircea_popescu eh down again ? [08:09]
mircea_popescu heh it was up a moment ago. [08:09]
BingoBoingo Maybe it is just really slow again [08:10]
BingoBoingo " Error 1000 Ray ID: 209672bca5fe260a • 2015-07-21 11:08:29 UTC " [08:15]
BingoBoingo "You've requested a page on a website (qntra.net) that is on the CloudFlare network. Unfortunately, it is resolving to an IP address that is creating a conflict within CloudFlare's system." [08:15]
mircea_popescu aww. [08:15]
BingoBoingo DNS points to prohibited IP [08:15]
mircea_popescu doh. [08:15]
mircea_popescu (i just switched it over. coinbase's [08:16]
mircea_popescu apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare. [08:16]
mircea_popescu and then im supposed to not suspect usg is out there ddosing everything. [08:16]
mircea_popescu because hey, "that'd be just crazy" [08:16]
shinohai @ BingoBoingo you *still* getting attacked? [08:17]
mircea_popescu only been a week or so ? [08:17]
mircea_popescu well not counting the 20gbps oct spike and the 15gbps june spike o.O [08:18]
mircea_popescu what do you mean STILL lmao. [08:18]
BingoBoingo Yeah. Most of last week actually wasn't so bad, at least 8 hours of availability a day. This weekend though [08:18]
shinohai Hmmm....someone needs a hobby. [08:18]
mircea_popescu lol like hot water. [08:19]
mircea_popescu is there a non-fucktarded img host ? [08:19]
mircea_popescu eh nm, wtf am i asking. for the internet to be useful, i must be from the past. [08:19]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bw-qntra-year.png << there. THAT is independent journalism. [08:20]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpOasw ) [08:20]
BingoBoingo And the BW usage has no correlation at all with the quantcast stats [08:22]
mircea_popescu the spikes are both ddos. [08:22]
BingoBoingo Of course, because the internet is retarded to the point "usage" numbers can't at all relate to the actual use of a thing by persons. [08:23]
mircea_popescu what persons. [08:25]
BingoBoingo Ones who read. USG department of internet says that no. Bandwidth usage must never correlate with actual readership. So packet inflation. [08:27]
* CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wvicpfnsgpnobzeu) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:28]
mircea_popescu neways. i'd much rather debug this than move, so your patience's appreciated. [08:29]
mircea_popescu also if you have burning articles, i can arrange for it to be visible selectively so you can make archive prints [08:29]
BingoBoingo Keep debugging. Thankfully nothing too burning is in queue at the moment. [08:31]
* HeySteve (~Lizard__W@unaffiliated/heysteve) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:33]
shinohai is qntra archived anywhere? [08:34]
shinohai actual IP>>> coinbase.com 107.21.102.138 UNITED STATES [08:36]
mircea_popescu o.O [08:37]
mircea_popescu this has all the makings of drama. lesee [08:37]
shinohai http://pastebin.com/mHExYJUX [08:40]
assbot 0/24 block search - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpRaoM ) [08:40]
chetty lmao right outside dc even [08:40]
shinohai Just another Amazon instance [08:41]
mircea_popescu amazon instance -> cloudflare -> internet. all via PKI. [08:43]
mircea_popescu YOUR PRIVACY IS IMPORTANT TO US. nom nom nom [08:43]
shinohai SO important that too < 10 minutes to find. [08:43]
mircea_popescu so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db. [08:43]
mircea_popescu if he visits any website, both amazon and cloudflare have records, which can even be compared. how's that for ECC asciilifeform ! [08:44]
mircea_popescu obviously if he pays anyone anything that's tracked. and in his dumbass case, this includes bitcoin [08:44]
mircea_popescu which he buys via amazon instance > cloudflare and he spends via amazon instance > cloudflare. [08:44]
chetty given the latest revelations that stuss is almost at the noise level [08:45]
mircea_popescu might as well use fucking visa rather than all this wastage. [08:45]
mircea_popescu then when i say bitcoin is not for the poor, people are liek o noes. [08:45]
mircea_popescu why waste all the fucking cycles to do visa poorly ? [08:45]
BingoBoingo !b 8 [08:49]
assbot Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TYZ1NS.txt ) [08:49]
* copumpkin (~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin) has joined #bitcoin-assets [08:50]
mircea_popescu of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever. [08:51]
mircea_popescu and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever" [08:52]
shinohai My sides: https://np.reddit.com/r/BitMarket/comments/3dzcj9/wtsbitcoin_trade_bot_website_businessinabox_10_btc/ [08:54]
assbot [WTS]Bitcoin Trade Bot Website - Business-in-a-Box (10 BTC) : BitMarket ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNXCQj ) [08:54]
shinohai http://ec2-107-21-102-138.compute-1.amazonaws.com/webalizer/ [09:04]
assbot Usage Statistics for web.suchdamage.org - Last 12 Months ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNZfgY ) [09:04]
shinohai /icons/ lists directory contents, tsk tsk [09:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40524 @ 0.0005634 = 22.8312 BTC [+] {2} [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30176 @ 0.00056682 = 17.1044 BTC [+] [09:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00056682 = 10.7696 BTC [+] [09:13]
* btcdrak (uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvehrrtrarpgbmtu) has joined #bitcoin-assets [09:15]
mircea_popescu shinohai wassat ? [09:24]
shinohai A bunch of old shit i guess, i dunno. I was peeking about trying to find where they keep shit. [09:25]
mircea_popescu lol [09:25]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/ << now with chatlog. [09:29]
assbot The best auction. Ever. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HO3vwJ ) [09:29]
* Eulorian (b0642cc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.100.44.199) has joined #bitcoin-assets [09:31]
* Eulorian (b0642cc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.100.44.199) has left #bitcoin-assets [09:31]
mircea_popescu too quick [09:35]
mircea_popescu lol something awful now running mostly psa ads [09:40]
mircea_popescu "Proprietary code decays and devteams of proprietary code decay even faster. Just look at Google." [09:45]
mircea_popescu shit i love reading my old quotes. [09:45]
* Hasimir has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:51]
* TheAdversary has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:51]
* DreadKnight has quit (Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )) [10:02]
BingoBoingo No Cloudflare or DNS for Best Korea https://www.northkoreatech.org/2015/07/06/a-peek-inside-north-koreas-intranet/ [10:05]
assbot A peek inside North Korea's intranet ... ( http://bit.ly/1IbaEXb ) [10:05]
* Hasimir (~hfenring@unaffiliated/hasimir) has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:08]
* TheAdversary (~adversary@unaffiliated/hasimir/bot/theadversary) has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:09]
* rdymac has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [10:13]
mats traded ma two SSDs in for pcie SSDs [10:19]
mats striped reads at 4GB/s with two 'SM951' [10:19]
shinohai nice mats [10:24]
* sergiohlb (~Sergio@unaffiliated/sergiohlb) has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:28]
* nubbins` (~leel@unaffiliated/nubbins) has joined #bitcoin-assets [10:29]
* assbot gives voice to nubbins` [10:32]
nubbins` hi [10:32]
nubbins` oh look, courts circus finally getting resolved [10:33]
nubbins` going on two years now :0 [10:33]
nubbins` and almost 27btc in the pot! will be interesting to see how it's sliced up [10:33]
nubbins` say, i'm sure someone here would know: what's the smallest amount of btc i can send to each of ~6,000 addresses in a single tx and expect to get it relayed? [10:34]
punkman depends on fee/age/etc [10:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15164 @ 0.00055438 = 8.4066 BTC [-] [10:44]
decimation http://thepointstraveler.com/an-introduction-to-the-basics-of-manufactured-spending/ < lol there's a big subculture devoted to ripping off idiotic marketing schemes (credit card points, etc) [10:50]
assbot An Introduction to the Basics of Manufactured Spending - The Points Traveler ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKCFA ) [10:50]
decimation http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072015a-smithsonian-kickstarter-armstrong-spacesuit.html < a new low for usg - begging for money on kickstarter [10:51]
assbot Smithsonian launches Kickstarter to 'reboot' Neil Armstrong spacesuit display | collectSPACE ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKHcd ) [10:51]
decimation " "The Smithsonian receives 70 percent of its appropriations from the federal government and that amount covers staff salaries, building support and maintenance, and not much more" said Lewis. "It has been a very long time since we have been able to use the appropriations for programming, exhibits and special projects."" [10:52]
decimation ^ usg should raise all its money this way, voluntary taxes: "Funding the $1e9 joint strike fighter: at the $1e7 level:recieve turd hand-polished to the same specifications as the canopy" [10:53]
decimation "Check out this clip from “CBS Saturday Morning” to see how the team digitizes everything from the Spirit of St. Louis to a sitting American president." < tele-dildonics? [10:54]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208406 << same as pogo. both - absent [10:58]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 05:17:35; decimation: asciilifeform: according to datasheet, it has rtc? but it needs 32.678khz crystal (and power) [10:58]
decimation pogo has inactive rtc? [10:59]
asciilifeform it does [10:59]
asciilifeform i explained many times. [10:59]
asciilifeform needs crystal and battery. [10:59]
asciilifeform (and, iirc, a few passives) [10:59]
decimation yeah probably, not gonna happen for such a cheap board [11:00]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208443 << realize that if even one such chip is publicly available, this is trivial to test: put it in ln2, if it automagically runs faster, without any extra manipulations - it is clockless logic [11:00]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 10:51:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes. [11:01]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208469 << 'good cop / bad cop' - what do you suppose the maxint porous routers and miscellaneous ddosatrons are for, if not for herding folks onto 'cloud' ? [11:02]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 11:13:08; mircea_popescu: apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare. [11:02]
decimation spam -> gmail; ddos -> cloudflare,aws ec2 [11:03]
asciilifeform aha. [11:03]
asciilifeform banditism -> cities [11:03]
asciilifeform (as described in 'the art of not being governed') [11:03]
decimation yeah, see also mancur olson [11:04]
asciilifeform !s yi yi zhi yi [11:04]
assbot 17 results for 'yi yi zhi yi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=yi+yi+zhi+yi [11:04]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208502 << no need to ride 'uber', just walk around carrying ipNohe [11:05]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 11:40:52; mircea_popescu: so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db. [11:05]
decimation or any phone of any kind [11:05]
asciilifeform aha [11:05]
asciilifeform but true patriot (tm) carries iPnohe, cache the gps stream, save the crown the disk space [11:05]
decimation or drive anywhere with a license plate [11:05]
decimation or use a credit card to buy anything [11:06]
* shovel_boss has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:06]
asciilifeform ^ this one is even more interesting than commonly supposed: one needn't even be usg to access purchase records! they are, i learned, routinely subpoenaed in civil cases [11:07]
asciilifeform (e.g., divorce) [11:07]
decimation http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/chicago-regional-housing-section-eight/398798/ < "en the state of Illinois distributes low-income housing tax credits, which are essential for developers who want to build affordable housing without losing money, it favors projects that have Section 8 units, so these units are also more likely to get funded than, for example, affordable units in struggling neighborhoods with no ... [11:08]
assbot Chicago's Regional Housing Initiative - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMjml ) [11:08]
decimation ... Section 8 units. " [11:08]
decimation asciilifeform: I think you can just buy them from visa, amex, etc [11:08]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208512 << mircea_popescu will be pleased to learn that this part of the program has been accomplished! i, for instance, have no idea what serious disposable money even smells like from a cannon's shot away ! [11:08]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 11:48:18; mircea_popescu: of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever. [11:08]
decimation if you are the right kind of person [11:08]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208513 << actually the result is automagically doubled rent/mortgage [11:09]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 11:49:06; mircea_popescu: and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever" [11:09]
* pete_dushenski (~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:09]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [11:10]
scoopbot_revived Wences whacked, Xapo zapped. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/21/wences-whacked-xapo-zapped/ [11:10]
pete_dushenski decimation: i'm assuming you caught this week's episode of econtalk ? re ^^ [11:11]
decimation heh no I'm getting through my weekly dose of the french revolution [11:11]
pete_dushenski burke ? [11:11]
asciilifeform speaking of which... [11:11]
asciilifeform http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/so-you-say-you-dont-want-revolution.html [11:11]
assbot ClubOrlov: So you say you don't want a revolution? ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMDBn ) [11:11]
decimation looks like lulzy fun [11:12]
asciilifeform ^ mega-article [11:12]
decimation no this guy: http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/ [11:12]
assbot Revolutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMFt6 ) [11:12]
asciilifeform ^ orlov follows up on mircea_popescu's 'greeks must behead' [11:13]
pete_dushenski decimation: ew, he only accepts paypal [11:14]
pete_dushenski for donations [11:14]
decimation L0L! [11:14]
decimation oh you mean russ roberts? [11:14]
pete_dushenski decimation: nah, revolutions guy [11:15]
pete_dushenski i dun think russ does donations other than those from stanford directly [11:15]
decimation yeah. the revolutions guy also did a 300 episode 'history of rome', he's pretty good for amateur historian [11:16]
pete_dushenski that's a bonkers number of episodes [11:17]
pete_dushenski makes dan carlin seem tame. [11:17]
decimation yeah, but he goes into pretty deep detail. he's 44 episodes into the french revolution [11:17]
pete_dushenski speaking of which, carlin's death throes of the republic is mega-recommended. [11:18]
* decimation puts it on the list [11:18]
pete_dushenski http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-death-throes-of-the-republic-series/ [11:18]
assbot Hardcore History - Death Throes of the Republic Series - Dan Carlin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki3IhC ) [11:18]
asciilifeform 'if you give Stalin a memorandum recommending that 500 priests get shot, and Stalin crosses out 500 and pencils in 1000 in red pencil, then you better find 500 more priests to shoot, or the number becomes 1001 and includes you.' [11:20]
pete_dushenski listened to it back in 2013. carlin is pretty masterful at bringing political and war stories to life. [11:20]
decimation asciilifeform: I see a pretty direct route from nazis -> baathists -> isis [11:21]
* OneFixt has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:21]
asciilifeform 'Could this have been done without any “red terror”? I doubt it. Greece is very much oligarch-ridden; even the celebrated former Syriza FM Yanis Varoufakis is the son an industrial magnate. The Greek oligarchs and the rich would have had to be rounded up and held as hostages. Numerous people in the government and in the military have a split allegiance—they work for Europe, not for Greece. They would have had to be sacke [11:22]
asciilifeform d immediately and held incommunicado, under house arrest at a minimum. No doubt foreign special services would have run rampant, looking for ways to undermine the revolutionary government. This would have called for drastic preemptive measures to physically eliminate foreign spies and agents before they could have had a chance to act. And so on. This wouldn't have been a job for fluffy mini-poodles. ' [11:22]
decimation the only reason anyone gives two shits about greece is because of the precedent it would set for spain, italy, other countries that matter [11:25]
pete_dushenski which is nuts, when you think about it [11:25]
pete_dushenski a precedent's only a precedent if two things are comparable. [11:25]
pete_dushenski what, just because they're all on the mediterranean, apples are oranges now ? [11:26]
pete_dushenski italy, spain, and portugal suck in their own way, but their not career criminals like the greeks are. [11:26]
pete_dushenski they're* [11:26]
asciilifeform no? [11:27]
decimation it is nuts, but it's kinda what happens when you are pretending that the 'eu' exists [11:27]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: where were greece's foreign colonies in the last millennia ? [11:27]
punkman pete_dushenski: not career criminals in italy and spain? [11:27]
pete_dushenski punkman: under eu 'phree bezzle if you sign here', sure, but that's relatively recent. [11:28]
pete_dushenski greece has been at this game since plato, neh ? [11:28]
pete_dushenski http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/20/ashley-madison-data-breach-time-to-buy-bitcoin/#comment-267850 [11:30]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: at the scrapyard, 'ford' and 'mercedes' looks quite alike, and go in the same press [11:30]
assbot Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Ashley Madison data breach: time to buy Bitcoin? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki59ga ) [11:30]
pete_dushenski ^greenspun's got the bitcoin bug nao ;) [11:30]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: unless scrapyard is 'pick n' pull', in which case it's not just the raw materials that's priced out, but the actual functional parts extant [11:31]
pete_dushenski "Greece is very much oligarch-ridden" << because i'm sure greece would be in an EVEN BETTER financial position if only the power were returned to the puddles of mud who voted 'oxi'. [11:34]
asciilifeform and what are the good engine parts in sp, it, .. ? [11:34]
pete_dushenski that's for the shake-out to determine, not top-down authorities. [11:35]
asciilifeform but as i understand, pete_dushenski was telling us that there ~are~ such [11:36]
asciilifeform so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis [11:36]
asciilifeform from my perch, these old 'rustbuckets' all looks quite alike [11:37]
asciilifeform i don't see a clear 'mercedes' [11:37]
decimation the 'eu' was a funding vehicle to give all the poor idiots money to buy german/french/uk goods [11:38]
asciilifeform outsourced inflation [11:38]
pete_dushenski italy still has production capabilities - cars, clothes, bicycles, etc. [11:38]
decimation now germany/france/uk are whining that they are being crushed by the debts they lent to these idiots so they could spend on their exports [11:39]
pete_dushenski i don't recall seeing a 'made in greece' tag recently, if ever. [11:39]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: by same token, so does usa [11:39]
decimation the only part of italy that isn't orc-land is the po river valley [11:39]
asciilifeform the question is not whether the machines are there - but whether anyone wants to pay enough for the output of said machines to actually feed italians [11:39]
decimation and parts north [11:39]
asciilifeform (or americans) [11:39]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: agreed. i'm not of the opinion that usistan doesn't have useful shards. [11:39]
punkman pete_dushenski: oh last couple years there's little greek flags on a myrida of products [11:39]
punkman *myriad [11:40]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: eh, not like factory workers need so much to eat. hungry people work. [11:40]
punkman half of it still's made in china of course [11:41]
pete_dushenski punkman: lulzy [11:41]
pete_dushenski 'assembled in greece' [11:41]
punkman pete_dushenski: usually accompanied by derpy slogans [11:41]
pete_dushenski which is basically 'added label sticker in greece' [11:41]
punkman "buy greek, support the economy" [11:41]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i [11:42]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: when grandfather was in prison, yes - hungry - which is why he still won't eat soup to this day. [11:44]
pete_dushenski but today's hungry have no such option, from whence comes the idea that bitcoin wasn't discovered ? [11:45]
pete_dushenski i dun see that the group has much recourse against the capitalist. [11:45]
pete_dushenski you make it sound like we need them, when in point of fact it's the converse that's truer. [11:46]
pete_dushenski why any -person- would bother with greece is beyond me. [11:47]
pete_dushenski eu of course isn't a -person-, it's a ponzi scheme with 'dignity' that has to save face. [11:47]
pete_dushenski at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there. [11:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41550 @ 0.00056139 = 23.3258 BTC [+] {2} [11:49]
* Guest89440 (~josed@pool-70-105-252-231.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [11:49]
* Guest89440 is now known as funkenstein_ [11:50]
* assbot gives voice to funkenstein_ [11:50]
phf pete_dushenski: i think that's american bias. as a eurpn i feel the same about greece as you do about itality, though they both are failed states and third world economies [11:52]
funkenstein_ olympus massif is beautiful, worth a visit for that summit alone [11:52]
pete_dushenski phf: both failed states ? sure. the point isn't that their governments suck merkel's balls, of course they do, the point is that one of them is usable for spare parts, the other isn't. [11:54]
phf pete_dushenski: right, and that's what i'm saying is american bias. italy is popularized here because of all the italians, while greece is sometimes vaguely remembered [11:55]
pete_dushenski sorry, where's 'here' ? [11:57]
phf sorry, "here" in the states [11:57]
pete_dushenski aha. well i'm in canada but it's largely the same 'culture'. [11:58]
phf russian (and european) literature borrows from greeks as much as it did from italians. i grew up intimately knowing greek mythos and not just from watching Hercules on tv, because you can't read a single russian novel without some greek allusion or outright a direct reference. when i went there i knew places from before even seeing them [11:59]
pete_dushenski well, eastern half of the roman empire 'went greek,' infecting eastern europe and up into russia, so that'd make sense. [12:00]
pete_dushenski and i'm not saying that the greeks haven't been influential intellectually [12:01]
pete_dushenski even if they did just bring egyptian and abrahamic philosophy to the northern mediterranean [12:02]
pete_dushenski they took the best parts ! [12:02]
pete_dushenski but that was 2300 years ago now. [12:02]
pete_dushenski the spanish, italians, and portuguese were relevant and productive as recently as a century ago. [12:03]
asciilifeform and the americans - a quarter century [12:03]
asciilifeform what of it [12:03]
pete_dushenski less time for decay, more pieces left to rebuild with. [12:04]
asciilifeform 'but it was a mercedes! last year!' [12:04]
asciilifeform 'you totalled it' [12:04]
* rdymac (uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxzuvyqotwzpupwc) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:04]
* asciilifeform bbl [12:04]
pete_dushenski so front end smashed, tires still roll. [12:04]
pete_dushenski leave that smashed-up merc for 200 years in the scrapyard and it'll be rust dust. [12:05]
phf pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but [12:05]
nubbins` <+punkman> depends on fee/age/etc << gimme some numbers here! oldest coins i have handy access to haven't moved since sept 2014 [12:05]
pete_dushenski find the banged-up merc 200 -days- after the accident and maybe you find yourself a new alternator, or maybe the glass is all intact and salvageable. [12:06]
phf what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" [12:06]
nubbins` reason i'm wondering this is that it came up the other day [12:07]
nubbins` nobody's spammed all of the casascius coins yet [12:07]
funkenstein_ spamming an address doesn't change the age of the UTXOs already there [12:08]
nubbins` no, you misunderstand [12:09]
nubbins` sending spam/dust to a casascius coin's address is like spraying indelible graffiti on it [12:09]
nubbins` i've passed up on coins because the addresses had extra funds sent to em [12:10]
punkman why? [12:10]
kakobrekla i think he owns a mac punkman [12:11]
pete_dushenski phf: sure it's sentimental, but sparta didn't invade troy for a woman, greece is being propped up because the eu doesn't want to admit FAILURE and suck Putin's and b-a's cock to compensate. [12:11]
pete_dushenski because 'dignity', because reasons. [12:12]
pete_dushenski because maybe papering over your problems with more and more layers of paper will eventually create a cast of 'stability' [12:12]
* diametric has quit (*.net *.split) [12:13]
* kuzetsa has quit (*.net *.split) [12:13]
* RagnarDanneskjol has quit (*.net *.split) [12:13]
* Jrum has quit (*.net *.split) [12:13]
pete_dushenski like greece is a broken arm, instead of the broken head it is. [12:13]
phf pete_dushenski: i vaguelly agree with that, but i'd say that's sop opinion here. [12:13]
pete_dushenski and the opinions of the educated are to be discounted because the media has a bridge to sell you ? [12:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27975 @ 0.00055935 = 15.6478 BTC [-] [12:21]
phf i don't know if the whole greece situation is a failure though. that /eu/ failed was obvious by 2005 or so. now germans seem to be doing exactly what they want to, that is refine their control over various parts of europe. next it's bailouts for italy, spain, etc. where wehrmacht failed, bundestag succeeds [12:22]
pete_dushenski you can't have the eu failing and the bundestag succeeding at the same time. they're one and the same. [12:24]
pete_dushenski if you're saying that the eu is failed/failing, which i happen to agree with, then by extension so has their monetary union and the german attempts at 'peaceful' unification of europe. [12:25]
fluffypony http://newsthump.com/2015/07/20/shark-survives-attack-by-australian-surfer/ [12:25]
assbot Shark survives attack by Australian surfer ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ii0vym ) [12:25]
pete_dushenski which, had the internet not come along and fucked shit up quite so badly, might've even worked. [12:25]
pete_dushenski fluffypony: lucky shark ! [12:26]
phf pete_dushenski: that i don't know. i was under the impression that germany came out stand as an independent economic power. with that assumption i don't see german bailout as any different as putin buying the place. with bailout the power lines are all obscured, because the purchase is done within an existing political framework so is not blatant. [12:34]
phf putin be like "oh, so we're buying this shit? i got caash." and germany is like "no no, sshh, we're HELPING, mommy knows best, shoo" [12:35]
* DreadKnight (~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight) has joined #bitcoin-assets [12:38]
pete_dushenski the latest 'bailout conditions' do seem to indicate that greece's public amenities are being turned over to private/eu concerns. [12:39]
pete_dushenski sorta first-come-first-serve in that sense, and germany beat russia to the punch [12:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00056531 = 3.1375 BTC [+] [12:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00055645 = 8.625 BTC [-] {2} [12:45]
mircea_popescu "The formula for inertia is p=mv where p is inertia, m is mass and v is velocity." ahaha where did they find this fuckwit [12:57]
mircea_popescu "let's call things thing because it's the internet of things and conviction's more important than a clue!" [12:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00054545 = 14.8908 BTC [-] {2} [12:59]
pete_dushenski "“Given our focus on Falcon 9, we’ve de-prioritized Falcon Heavy to probably launch in the spring next year, maybe April or so,” SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk told reporters Monday." [13:01]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208629 << eh don't be ridiculous. "italy" is a modern construct, much like greece, and from the same period. prior to that construct, which was supposed to reboot the shitland, italy and greece did exactly the same. ask charles of france how the whores of venice went like. [13:01]
pete_dushenski such competence, these crown corp derps. [13:01]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 14:25:35; pete_dushenski: greece has been at this game since plato, neh ? [13:01]
mircea_popescu ask the barbarians who can fuck more soldiers than a roman matron [13:01]
mircea_popescu etc [13:01]
mircea_popescu for the record : p is impulse. the definition of inertia is m = F/a, where m is inertia[l mass]. [13:02]
pete_dushenski not saying 'italy' isn't a modern construct, more that what lies within its currently defined borders just so happens, perhaps by chance, perhaps not, to include more valuable 'parts' than greece does. [13:03]
mircea_popescu as "opposed" i guess to energetic mass, m = 2W/v^2 [13:03]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski this may reflect your own mind more than the ground. [13:03]
pete_dushenski that can hardly be ruled out. [13:04]
pete_dushenski now, as ever. [13:04]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: do you dispute the point then ? [13:04]
* jordandotdev (uid7502@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rwadaqtqrsjavogf) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:05]
mircea_popescu yes. no difference in leechdom between italy and greece. they're exactly the same sort of zoo park. ex civilisaiton, plox baksheesh that's visible at giza [13:05]
decimation I would wager that nearly all products you think of as 'coming from italy' are made north of florence [13:05]
mircea_popescu and the short, brown, dumbass current inhabitants have as much to do with the slender, white, original builders of the monuments as your egyptian arabs have to do with the egyptians. [13:05]
* chema (6da3ea82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.163.234.130) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:06]
mircea_popescu go to the museum, look at the statues, then look at the people milling around them. [13:06]
mircea_popescu !up chema [13:06]
-assbot- You voiced chema for 30 minutes. [13:06]
* assbot gives voice to chema [13:06]
pete_dushenski sure, pharoah's nose isn't mubarak's nose. [13:06]
decimation Senegalese selling fake shit? [13:06]
mircea_popescu lol [13:07]
pete_dushenski decimation: then that's the part, north of florence, worth the bother ! [13:08]
mircea_popescu ie germany [13:08]
decimation ^ yeah more or less [13:08]
decimation north of verona most people speak german [13:08]
pete_dushenski hm. yes. [13:08]
mircea_popescu saxony, w/e. if you're into it. [13:08]
decimation suedtirol was under active insurgancy only a few years ago [13:09]
decimation http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/may/30/south-tyrol-live-in-italy-feel-austrian "Klotz says: "There are acts of racism each single day. Despite Italian and German both being official languages, I often bump into police officers who don't know German. They point at the Italian flag stitched on their uniform and require I speak Italian simply because we're in Italy. They don't even know that I have the right to speak in ... [13:11]
assbot The South Tyrol identity crisis: to live in Italy, but feel Austrian | Education | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jez4o7 ) [13:11]
decimation ... my mother tongue so I show them this card. It drives me mad. I call this linguistic imperialism." [13:11]
decimation why do they get to have their 'own identity'? > "Bolzano has Italy's highest GDP per capita, according to figures from Italy's National Statistics Office. Locals move around on bikes even when it rains and are proud of showing-off to the world Ötzi the Iceman, a mummy found in the glaciers close to Austria." [13:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6952 @ 0.00054509 = 3.7895 BTC [-] [13:17]
mircea_popescu Of course, this took a terrible toll on society. Here is what Putin had to say on the subject of “red terror”: “Think of the hostages who were shot during the civil war, the destruction of entire social strata—the clergy, the prosperous peasants, the Cossacks. Such tragedies have recurred more than once during the history of mankind. And it always happened when initially attractive but ultimately empty ideals w [13:20]
mircea_popescu ere raised above the main value—the value of human life, above the rights and liberties of man. For our country this is especially tragic, because the scale was colossal. Thousands, millions of people were destroyed, sent to concentration camps, shot, tortured to death. And these were primarily people who had their own opinions, who weren't afraid to voice them. These were the most effective people—the flower of th [13:20]
mircea_popescu e nation. Even after many years we feel the effect of this tragedy on ourselves. We must do a great deal to make sure that this is never forgotten.” [13:20]
mircea_popescu Given that the price is so high, perhaps it would be better after all if we just sat quietly, allowed the rich get richer as the poor get poorer, watched listlessly as the environment got completely destroyed by capitalist industrialists in blind pursuit of profit, and eventually curled up, kissed our sweet asses good-bye and died? [13:20]
mircea_popescu somehow orlov doesn't feel compelled to go "check out schmuckin, going over to the euro tune of human rights" [13:21]
mircea_popescu not because it wouldn't be consistent with the piece so far, and with his verbiage so far. but why then ? [13:21]
mircea_popescu fucking russian inferiority complex. "oh, europe is doing something stupid ? we will do THE SAME STUPID THING IN OUR OWN WAY!!11" [13:22]
mircea_popescu let's make a russian union run by russian bureaucrats with the capital at ruxelles! [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13184 @ 0.00056545 = 7.4549 BTC [+] {2} [13:27]
pete_dushenski why not bruxelles ? hard to beat the chocolate there. [13:28]
mircea_popescu quite the question. [13:29]
mircea_popescu from what i hear putin's been asked this a lot by the various oligarchs [13:29]
mircea_popescu "2. Start printing Euros without authorization from the European Central bank. When accused of forgery, make the forgery harder to detect by changing the letter at the front of the serial number from Y (for Greece) to X (for Germany)." << ahaha gawd. [13:30]
mircea_popescu dude has nfi how shit works does he. [13:30]
mircea_popescu "o herp, we are flooding europe with fake euros. can you break a 500 ???" [13:30]
mircea_popescu somehow the "i am not a revolutionary, here are my opinions on how that works" does not give him any pause whatsoever. "i'm a virgin, here's some songs about fucking i wrote". because why ? [13:31]
* williamdunne has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:32]
mircea_popescu rotten fucking pseudo-civilisation of nothing. let's commentate commentary! [13:32]
* williamdunne (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/williamdunne) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:32]
pete_dushenski lol. y'know, just in case any actual revolutionaries are reading orlov and needing fatherly advice from someone with no skin in the game. [13:34]
mats https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213 [13:34]
assbot mongo-java-driver/ConnectionStatus.java at 1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759 · mongodb/mongo-java-driver · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JuVzAY ) [13:34]
pete_dushenski because being raised by charlatanic economists and the like have trained idjits to seek advice from tards with 'no conflicts of interest' [13:34]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski i know, right ?! [13:34]
mircea_popescu that's EXACTLY what actual revolutionaries are thinking right now. "i wonder if there's some schmuck on a google blog with opinions. let me check!" [13:35]
pete_dushenski "oh, you think i should buy $goog even though you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole ? ok !" [13:35]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [13:35]
mircea_popescu mats what am i looking at ? [13:36]
pete_dushenski speaking of which, how comes the commodity ticker widget, kakobrekla ? [13:36]
* assbot removes voice from chema [13:36]
mircea_popescu 1 in 10 failures don't get reported ? [13:36]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208662 << this is to me personally the most interesting point. [13:38]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 14:39:00; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i [13:38]
mircea_popescu i know from directly verified experimental fact that properly chained and beaten they DO work. the spark to work and be smart and everything's not lost. [13:39]
mircea_popescu now, will large herds of worthless schmucks be turnable into an actual population ? i grant it seems dubious. [13:39]
mircea_popescu and who's gonna bother with training them individually. [13:39]
mircea_popescu but then again - shoot all the males, keep the females under 20ish that suck it enthusiastically has always been the procedure [13:39]
mircea_popescu perhaps for a very good reason. [13:40]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208669 << by this logic turkey exceeds italy and greece combined [13:41]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 14:46:29; pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there. [13:41]
mats mircea_popescu: a technique for preventing resource exhaustion in a weird place [13:41]
mircea_popescu (yes, most of the ruins of roman antiquity are in turkey, not europe) [13:41]
pete_dushenski and there's no shortage of production capability in turkey atm. [13:42]
pete_dushenski too bad germany let the istanbul slip through their fingers a decade ago. [13:43]
* funkenstein_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:43]
Adlai holy textwall [13:44]
phf berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work" [13:49]
* funkenstein_ (~josed@50.153.151.45) has joined #bitcoin-assets [13:57]
* funkenstein_ is now known as Guest97041 [13:58]
pete_dushenski "Apple Inc said it is experiencing some issues with its App Store, Apple Music, iTunes Store and some other services. The company did not provide details but said only some users were affected." << qntra not alone. [14:02]
* ascii_field (~ascii_fie@66-162-3-25.static.twtelecom.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:05]
mod6 !up ascii_field [14:08]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [14:08]
mod6 so last 24 hours or so I've been working on getting an automated testing framework setup for this forthcoming release. I've got one scenario working (simple one). Here's what it kinda looks like - although this isn't the entire code, there is a module I left out for now. http://dpaste.com/32GZH0A.txt [14:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1g255V4 ) [14:09]
mod6 With some effort up front I might be able to automate the ~20 or so scenarios that i've sketched out for the release. Could save all of us a lot of time by installing/emerging a few things on gentoo and then just running these tests instead of having to do all the testing manually. [14:10]
mod6 We'll see where it goes and if I run into too many problems. [14:11]
mod6 But as far as cucumber, even if I have issues with the steps (so far it's been very easy), if I write out the scenarios in the feature, it should be a decent testing guide in itself. [14:11]
mod6 Of course, there will actually be a separate, more formal testing guide that I'll create also. [14:12]
* rdymac has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [14:13]
mod6 Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. [14:14]
mod6 When I do get around to drafting up all of the scenarios, I'll put that in here as well, maybe you guys can think of other tests that I hvaen't thought of yet. Or edge cases. etc. [14:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00054509 = 11.7194 BTC [-] [14:18]
* Duffer1 (~Duffer1@c-24-20-11-92.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [14:19]
* Guest97041 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:23]
ascii_field so tx spam is back. [14:28]
ascii_field aaaand [14:29]
ascii_field the 'let's make the backbone lose bitcoin packetz' thing is also back [14:29]
ascii_field currently targeting my new node [14:29]
ascii_field (or rather, to be more specific, appears to be active on the corner of the net where the latte resides) [14:30]
ascii_field same deal as was tested on mircea_popescu's node last month [14:30]
ascii_field socket lays open, but silent [14:30]
ascii_field eventually peers mark node as 'misbehaving' and killfile it [14:30]
ascii_field *the latter [14:30]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208802 << ahahaha yes [14:31]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 16:46:50; phf: berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work" [14:31]
ascii_field !s butugychag [14:31]
assbot 23 results for 'butugychag' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=butugychag [14:31]
ascii_field !s судьбы моей рычаг [14:31]
assbot 0 results for 'судьбы моей рычаг' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%8C%D0%B1%D1%8B+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B9+%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B3 [14:31]
ascii_field damn [14:32]
* pete_dushenski has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:33]
ascii_field disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 [14:34]
ascii_field etc, etc [14:34]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208779 << epic [14:35]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 16:31:12; mats: https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213 [14:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21196 @ 0.00056682 = 12.0143 BTC [+] [14:35]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 << mircea_popescu has a post about just this! [14:37]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" [14:37]
ascii_field phf: http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece [14:37]
assbot The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kj5xrS ) [14:37]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [14:39]
* assbot gives voice to phf [14:40]
phf !up ascii_field [14:40]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [14:40]
phf re situation of greece, i think i missed that one somehow [14:41]
phf thanks [14:41]
fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLERL4_SveI [14:48]
assbot News 8 at 6pm - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2b10m ) [14:48]
phf https://vimeo.com/25479104 has some shots of butugychag around 24:05, though the whole documentary is interesting, done by a shalamov fan in early 90s [14:49]
assbot Колымская командировка on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2bgbH ) [14:50]
ascii_field i think i saw this, aha [14:51]
mod6 ascii_field: what's your best block height? [14:56]
ascii_field where? [14:56]
mod6 your node that you were speaking about ^ [14:56]
ascii_field 365587 - three blocks away from where it was turned on [14:57]
ascii_field (after loading chain externally) [14:57]
mod6 oh [14:57]
ascii_field it gets thousands of these 'silent' connection attempts [14:57]
ascii_field every hour or two - manages to snarf a block, yes [14:58]
mod6 but not enough to keep up then obv. [14:59]
ascii_field aha [14:59]
ascii_field once in a while, even gets tx [14:59]
ascii_field for a minute or two at a stretch [14:59]
ascii_field then falls back into these 'socket closed' [14:59]
ascii_field open/close, open/close [14:59]
ascii_field the bitcoind AND the os are bitwise-identical to those of another node presently running happily. [15:00]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [15:11]
mod6 !up ascii_field [15:12]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [15:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00054479 = 2.7784 BTC [-] {2} [15:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17930 @ 0.0005447 = 9.7665 BTC [-] [15:16]
* RagnarDanneskjol (~RagnarDan@unaffiliated/ragnardanneskjol) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:18]
* diametric (~diametric@unaffiliated/diametric) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:18]
* Jrum (~Jrum@2604:a880:800:10::1a4:a001) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:19]
fluffypony http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/ [15:21]
fluffypony lol [15:21]
thestringpuller ~> [15:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.00056845 = 6.3496 BTC [+] {2} [15:29]
ben_vulpes in other news, my stator has caught up with the net at large [15:34]
ascii_field congrats ben_vulpes! [15:34]
ben_vulpes "blocks" : 366328, [15:35]
mod6 yay! [15:35]
trinque anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? [15:35]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo has [15:35]
trinque I noticed it was forked from the version of openssl in use [15:35]
ben_vulpes that's next on my list [15:35]
trinque neat, I tried too, ran into some issue, but was going to try again [15:35]
* chema has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:35]
trinque so I'll continue on fiddling with it [15:35]
ascii_field in quite other news, i found a simple and software-only means of reading and writing the nand fw of 'miracast' [15:35]
ascii_field doesn't even need the cable [15:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00056976 = 1.9942 BTC [+] [15:37]
* solrodar_ is now known as solrodar [15:38]
* assbot gives voice to solrodar [15:39]
solrodar http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206079 << I was using the OS package from Ubuntu 14.02, which is boost version 1.54 [15:39]
assbot Logged on 19-07-2015 00:40:38; ben_vulpes: boost fails to compile << i actually ran into this when hacking against solrodar's clang + graphviz callgraph thinger [15:39]
* DreadKnight has quit (Quit: #AncientBeast - Master Your Beasts ( www.AncientBeast.com )) [15:40]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [15:43]
solrodar as well as generating the call graph, I was able to actually build bitcoind against that version, though I didn't test it [15:44]
* nubbins` has quit (Quit: Quit) [15:46]
* nubbins` (~leel@unaffiliated/nubbins) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:55]
* kuzetsa (znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa) has joined #bitcoin-assets [15:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00054166 = 23.6164 BTC [-] {2} [15:59]
* diana_coman (~diana_com@unaffiliated/diana-coman/x-8319396) has joined #bitcoin-assets [16:00]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [16:06]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [16:06]
ascii_field ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html [16:06]
assbot [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r ) [16:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208689 << he's getting a lot better at this isn't he. [16:13]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 15:01:01; asciilifeform: 'you totalled it' [16:13]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208693 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/ [16:14]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 15:02:22; phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but [16:14]
assbot The logical impossibility, and the moral untenability, of forgiveness on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO9OE6 ) [16:14]
mircea_popescu works out. [16:14]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece/#selection-31.119-31.232 [16:16]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" [16:16]
assbot The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COaidh ) [16:16]
mircea_popescu clearly, the sect is working. [16:17]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D [16:20]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. [16:20]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208830 << so now you get to see the other end of it, for your records. [16:20]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 17:31:20; ascii_field: disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 [16:20]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: both ends look quite alike [16:21]
mircea_popescu indeed. [16:21]
mircea_popescu im sure it's all just a coincidence. [16:21]
ascii_field socket opens, but packets drown in the bermuda triangle [16:21]
mircea_popescu it often happens for very complex systems to behave in highly consistent ways with a clearly identifiable beneficiary all by themselves. [16:21]
mircea_popescu this is how the us budget is constructed, at any rate. [16:22]
ascii_field i warned that the buggerz will do exactly this [16:22]
ascii_field yearz ago [16:22]
mircea_popescu yeah. but warning there's gonna be an eclypse is not quite the same as watching the eclypse over a beer, out on a terrace. [16:22]
mircea_popescu wave at the public, [16:23]
ascii_field aha. [16:23]
* mircea_popescu waves at the public [16:23]
mircea_popescu hello public. look at all the things that aren't happening! [16:23]
mircea_popescu and also have perfectly simple and so forth explanations and etc. [16:23]
mircea_popescu phf where you from anyway ? [16:24]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208865 << shit i had no idea kenyans wore clothes ?! [16:25]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 18:18:01; fluffypony: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/ [16:25]
fluffypony lol [16:25]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f65e5d2baebac5a56b3113326dd85795/tumblr_n3e4zvTJtm1sqs58ao1_1280.jpg [16:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CObOMA ) [16:26]
phf mircea_popescu: moscow [16:34]
mircea_popescu o hey. living there ? [16:34]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [16:36]
phf no, not anymore, not for a while actually, but not as long as ascii seems like. i live in philadelphia and about 1/3 of time in dc [16:39]
* assbot gives voice to diametric [16:40]
thestringpuller !up assbot [16:45]
thestringpuller !up ascii_field [16:45]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [16:45]
trinque ben_vulpes: you guys going to oscon? [16:47]
kakobrekla some aficionado http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html [16:49]
assbot Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm ) [16:49]
ascii_field kakobrekla: iirc it is in the log [16:49]
kakobrekla !s http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html [16:49]
assbot Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm ) [16:49]
assbot 0 results for 'http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.righto.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fbitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html [16:49]
kakobrekla dunno [16:50]
kakobrekla undo then [16:50]
phf my moscow is gone anyway, 90ые are over, so it's all aparatchiks tightening the screws. and i don't know anyone "on the pipeline" [16:50]
* jordandotdev has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [16:53]
phf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3fsSL4Bw9w&t=0m15s [16:56]
assbot Nabokov and the moment of truth - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1COgDFP ) [16:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00055488 = 11.2363 BTC [+] {2} [17:11]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [17:16]
* CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtjotbskbwwtvxif) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:26]
BingoBoingo so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis << Generally before crushing trash car's is held for some time and parts sold to mechanics who then sell to their customers for half price of "new" stock [17:41]
BingoBoingo anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? << LibreSSL 2.0 fully synced in wild, LibreSSL 2.1 Kept up as of this morning will probably try a full sync eventually [17:48]
trinque cool. [17:48]
BingoBoingo Turns out it only takes about 5 hours on this machine with a puny mobile processor to compile Kernel, Userland, and Xenocara in order to upgrade from release to -stable as well [17:52]
trinque not bad; I continue to see parallels between gentoo and openbsd usage patterns [17:53]
* trinque tries a tcpkill on deedbot's irc [17:54]
BingoBoingo processor is amd e350 so takes ~25-33% CPU utilization around the clock just keeping up with Bitcoin when sync'd [17:54]
* deedbot- has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:55]
trinque hm, so why would this thing still think it's connected on the other end? [17:57]
* felipelalli (~felipelal@201-92-117-228.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:57]
* felipelalli has quit (Changing host) [17:57]
* felipelalli (~felipelal@unaffiliated/felipelalli) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:57]
* deedbot- (~deedbot-@ec2-54-68-114-104.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [17:59]
trinque ah there we go [17:59]
trinque unix has its warts, but the things you can cobble together with the pipe... [17:59]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [18:00]
trinque one more try, then I'll call it good [18:00]
* deedbot- has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:01]
* BingoBoingo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:03]
* deedbot- (~deedbot-@ec2-54-68-114-104.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:04]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [18:04]
* Adlai has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:13]
* BingoBoingo (~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:13]
* assbot gives voice to BingoBoingo [18:16]
assbot dpaste: 2T9SCHJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1COr0JH ) [18:16]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [18:17]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [18:17]
ascii_field qntra points to a very quick-loading 404 now [18:17]
BingoBoingo hanbot: Looks good [18:17]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell mircea_popescu Can we get that window to post and archive soon? [18:18]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:18]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu can haz a pcap dump of the ddos packets plz ? [18:18]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:18]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.phylomemetic-tree.de/spackeria/daily/%23spackeria.03-24.log << http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF [18:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:25]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PnN ) [18:25]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PEb ) [18:26]
* Adlai (~Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:27]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.whoismind.com/email/bXM-schmidt-system.de.html << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E [18:28]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:28]
assbot ms@schmidt-system.de - Email Data ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs5kM ) [18:28]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs6VL ) [18:28]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://github.com/cyco << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C214323FE8F5A745404185908E2CFAB4D18087093B71CDBC40C01FA883C060D4 [18:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:30]
assbot cyco (Christoph Leimbrock) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsm79 ) [18:30]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsmnO ) [18:30]
ascii_field ^^^ anyone who has time to carry on in this pattern, is encouraged. [18:30]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [18:47]
BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [18:48]
* assbot gives voice to ascii_field [18:48]
* devthedev (~devthedev@unaffiliated/devthedev) has joined #bitcoin-assets [18:50]
BingoBoingo !up devthedev [18:59]
* assbot gives voice to devthedev [18:59]
* ubuntu__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:03]
* ValentinJesse has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:03]
* shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:10]
* funkenstein (~josed@50.153.151.7) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:16]
* funkenstein is now known as Guest98174 [19:16]
* Guest98174 is now known as funkenstein_ [19:17]
* funkenstein_ has quit (Client Quit) [19:18]
* assbot removes voice from ascii_field [19:19]
* user (~user@c-50-187-182-168.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:25]
* user is now known as Guest24949 [19:25]
* Guest24949 is now known as funkenstein_ [19:26]
* assbot gives voice to funkenstein_ [19:27]
* assbot removes voice from devthedev [19:29]
* copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [19:32]
* rdymac (uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wogzpyjaxtxrshku) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:34]
* Naphex has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [19:36]
* ascii_field has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:36]
danielpbarron https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKdtsfaUwAA1V6_.jpg << reddit meet-up [19:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CU5WBh ) [19:39]
* shovel_boss has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39627 @ 0.00056343 = 22.327 BTC [+] {5} [19:45]
* twixisowned (~skdsfhshf@45.34.11.67) has joined #bitcoin-assets [19:50]
* trixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:54]
cazalla danielpbarron, here's a better shot http://i.imgur.com/Ob7rq.jpg [20:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlchJ ) [20:08]
* DreadKnight (~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight) has joined #bitcoin-assets [20:10]
mats lol [20:10]
* HeySteve has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:10]
decimation asciilifeform: did you already have those datasheets I linked last night? [20:11]
decimation also some amusing reading: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html " One of the particular problems that often comes up is this: if you have a piece of code producing data, and another piece of code consuming it, which should be the caller and which should be the callee? ... In The Art of Computer Programming, Donald Knuth presents a solution to this sort of problem. His answer is to throw away the stack ... [20:12]
assbot Coroutines in C ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlYLE ) [20:12]
decimation ... concept completely. Stop thinking of one process as the caller and the other as the callee, and start thinking of them as cooperating equals. ... This is very nice in theory, but in practice you can only do it in assembly language, because no commonly used high level language supports the coroutine call primitive. Languages like C depend utterly on their stack-based structure, so whenever control passes from any function to ... [20:12]
decimation ... any other, one must be the caller and the other must be the callee. So if you want to write portable code, this technique is at least as impractical as the Unix pipe solution. " [20:12]
decimation in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible' [20:13]
* diana_coman has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:26]
* assbot gives voice to Adlai [20:27]
Adlai bedrock my ass, the bedrock is assembly language on a 2(or more)-core system... what shapes possibilities is the crappy foundation sunk into the quicksand sludge on top of the rock [20:28]
Adlai gradually modern "languages" (glorified syntax processors) are waking up to the reality recognized decades ago [20:29]
Adlai doesn't mean that reality didn't exist in the terim [20:29]
mircea_popescu werd. [20:35]
trinque maybe I'm an idiot, but you can do coroutine patterns in many high level languages [20:44]
trinque perhaps not as efficiently as someone thinking about hardware wants [20:45]
trinque http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4411 [20:50]
assbot Delimited continuations for C/C++ | Lambda the Ultimate ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQ9N9 ) [20:50]
trinque actually that one uses asm [20:50]
trinque https://code.google.com/p/libconcurrency << uses jmp and stack-fiddling magic, doesn't appear to have any asm [20:52]
assbot libconcurrency - [20:52]
* sergiohlb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:53]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/ and DDos This https://archive.is/i7XvH << hanbot [21:04]
assbot ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrRxPE ) [21:04]
assbot ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrRzqQ ) [21:04]
trinque isn't this sort of like saying common lisp is impossible, after all, the machine only implements syslisp? [21:04]
trinque this being "the bedrock is shaping..." [21:05]
scoopbot_revived ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/ [21:05]
scoopbot_revived Trial For Alleged Ricin Importer Begins http://qntra.net/2015/07/trial-for-alleged-ricin-importer-begins/ [21:07]
BingoBoingo hanbot: I gave it the redundancy edit by linking the earlier piece [21:09]
trinque terrorism... [21:10]
trinque you know that Bin Laden guy really hit it outta the park. [21:10]
BingoBoingo The ashley madison thing is big, you wrote a better story. My quick piece was just to get something in as soon as possible considering our... uptime issues. [21:10]
trinque I begin to see how there's a runaway social process here. [21:12]
BingoBoingo thanks [21:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14498 @ 0.00055177 = 7.9996 BTC [-] [21:15]
* funkenstein_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:18]
trinque hanbot: some interaction between the subconscious effect of even having a vast american govt at all... [21:18]
trinque everyone here knows on some level they could kick the door in at any moment [21:18]
trinque the things people joke about show that [21:19]
trinque the attack created the atmosphere of "something must be done" [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8302 @ 0.00055056 = 4.5707 BTC [-] [21:21]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D << heheh. well, with any luck it might help us this time around. my hope is that some python hero will pick up the torch and take this thing forward next time around. [21:21]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. [21:21]
* assbot gives voice to nubbins` [21:21]
nubbins` for those of you who are interested in such things: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128004.0 [21:21]
assbot CASASCIUS COMBO AUCTION ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrTo79 ) [21:21]
trinque and the precariousness of baseless narcissism, being that it could be knocked over by reality at any moment [21:22]
trinque you have a situation where everything generates more fear, and so long as people believe the govts role is to remove anything feared, it'll proceed further in the same direction [21:23]
trinque I expect a general concept of "being terrorised" to develop which is some descendent of being "triggered" and so on [21:24]
trinque all that to say we were hit right in the heel [21:26]
trinque there was no chance the whole thing wouldn't be caught by every camera in miles [21:26]
trinque the thing's indelliby there, forever [21:27]
trinque mhm [21:28]
trinque and since "this *doesn't* happen to america" and it can never be forgotten, we will pick at the wound until it kills us [21:29]
BingoBoingo Triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/d82584f2695873b143b7f56ccf26e656.jpg [21:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUkZd ) [21:29]
trinque that's just cause the food never makes it to the table [21:30]
BingoBoingo More triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/395e55a4ba1859a676fb401e6dc9e5d9.jpg [21:30]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUqjD ) [21:30]
cazalla sheeit, published my non-spell checked version [21:31]
BingoBoingo Maximally triggered https://i.imgur.com/fVzsFLt.jpg [21:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUDTN ) [21:31]
cazalla BingoBoingo, why ya got all these links to such images? [21:32]
trinque woah dude [21:32]
trinque woah [21:32]
BingoBoingo Why did they have to burn crosses? [21:32]
BingoBoingo It is, but one has to keep the hateorade full somehow. [21:33]
trinque oh, I just go for a walk for that [21:33]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: that fella must've run off from a circus ? [21:36]
* trixbutt (~skdsfhshf@174-29-53-125.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'bermuda triangle of packets' carries on [21:36]
asciilifeform accepted connection 82.130.102.173:38621 [21:37]
asciilifeform accepted connection 129.13.252.36:52829 [21:37]
asciilifeform socket closed [21:37]
asciilifeform disconnecting node 82.130.102.173:38621 [21:37]
asciilifeform accepted connection 148.251.238.178:43407 [21:37]
scoopbot_revived Silk Road Heroin Dealer Receives 2-1/2 Years Prison Sentence http://qntra.net/2015/07/silk-road-heroin-dealer-receives-2-12-years-prison-sentence/ [21:37]
asciilifeform socket closed [21:37]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm not so sure. Perhaps Walmart was closed or had no scooty puffs for him to ride? [21:37]
asciilifeform disconnecting node 148.251.238.178:43407 [21:37]
asciilifeform socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 [21:37]
asciilifeform disconnecting node 129.13.252.36:52829 [21:37]
asciilifeform etc [21:37]
asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/07/trial-for-alleged-ricin-importer-begins >>><<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#623044 [21:37]
assbot Trial For Alleged Ricin Importer Begins | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVgwH ) [21:37]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now. [21:37]
trinque next innovation is constructing both sides! [21:38]
trinque what will they think of next [21:38]
asciilifeform trinque: 'the man who was thursday' [21:38]
asciilifeform chesterton already thought of it! [21:38]
* trinque puts it in the queue [21:39]
asciilifeform so... [21:39]
asciilifeform this was not the plan, but... [21:39]
asciilifeform mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: [21:39]
asciilifeform gentlemen, please welcome 'incitatus': 64.85.171.71:8333 [21:39]
* twixisowned has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:39]
asciilifeform a very sad therealbitcoin node [21:39]
asciilifeform which isn't synced and doesn't threaten to any time soon [21:40]
asciilifeform because of - apparently - usg diddling the pipes. [21:40]
asciilifeform go ahead, try to connect. [21:40]
asciilifeform height=365788 [21:40]
asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/1AN13QZ.txt << last n lines of log [21:42]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVG69 ) [21:42]
phf hehe, sorry. [21:42]
asciilifeform this has been going on, punctuated with occasional bursts of activity, since it was switched on this morning. [21:42]
asciilifeform it was build ~deliberately~ bitwise-identical to a properly-functioning node hosted elsewhere. [21:43]
asciilifeform there can be ~NO~ fucking question of misconfiguration [21:43]
* felipelalli has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:43]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-07-2015#1206896 <<<<< guess what. it has. [21:43]
assbot Logged on 20-07-2015 00:44:24; mircea_popescu: you seriously proposing the internet just goes away ? [21:43]
phf asciilifeform: well, that last burst is me netcat'ing you repeatedly [21:44]
asciilifeform phf: don't hesitate. [21:44]
asciilifeform also, anyone who has the time, try a packet capture [21:45]
asciilifeform when this was happening to mircea_popescu's node, all i found was sockets opening and then standing entirely still [21:45]
asciilifeform as if no one were bothering to transmit [21:45]
asciilifeform if this is a 'cosmic ray', then i fart monkeys. [21:45]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Node reports a starting height of -1 [21:46]
asciilifeform waiwat [21:46]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you got packets ?! [21:46]
asciilifeform please post pcap !! [21:46]
asciilifeform esp. of this '-1' business. [21:46]
BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/0N2JC68.txt No packets, just the peer info. [21:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrW4Sg ) [21:47]
asciilifeform need the packetz [21:47]
asciilifeform otherwise this could easily be the peculiar behaviour of BingoBoingo's phoundation node [21:47]
asciilifeform (perhaps it assigns -1 to nodes which did not answer pings.) [21:47]
phf must be <--> this many hops away from fort meade to ride [21:47]
* asciilifeform cannot be bothered to read any more phoundation code [21:48]
BingoBoingo Peerinfo for two s.nsa nodes for comparison http://dpaste.com/2SR9H1M.txt [21:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWesF ) [21:48]
asciilifeform phf: this particular box is hosted in northeast usa [21:48]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: one of those is incitatus [21:49]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you probably wanted 'zoolag,' 96.241.120.166:8333 [21:49]
BingoBoingo Oh no I just addnode'd incitatus [21:50]
asciilifeform anyway if this carries on, i will be cancelling my contract with that hoster [21:50]
asciilifeform (after ~6 years!) [21:50]
asciilifeform could just as easily be an upstream thing [21:51]
phf could be your hoster doesn't like bitcoind nodes [21:51]
asciilifeform no reason for a threadbare american hoster to be in on the mega-secret [21:52]
asciilifeform phf: they never cared re: bittorrent [21:52]
trinque I'm reminded of comcast telling me yesterday that "that port 25, that's not yours" [21:52]
BingoBoingo Node I'm connecting with identifies as protocol version 99992 [21:52]
asciilifeform or 1,001 other bandwidth hogs [21:52]
BingoBoingo Is this corenetworks? [21:52]
asciilifeform clearly-enumerated byte limit in the contract, but otherwise open-eneded [21:52]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: aha [21:52]
BingoBoingo I remember you mentioning earlier as source of cheapboxes [21:53]
* rdymac has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [21:53]
asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/1116A5J.txt << moar [21:54]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGQqc7 ) [21:54]
* Vexual (~Vexual@unaffiliated/vexual) has joined #bitcoin-assets [21:55]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell danielpbarron pete_dushenski http://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2014-octeon_dsr500.pdf [21:55]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:56]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGQCYZ ) [21:56]
asciilifeform and in case anyone has forgotten, this is not a problem limited to goatfuckistans like usa, but appears to exist in backbone [21:57]
asciilifeform the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone. [21:57]
danielpbarron nice, BingoBoingo [21:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00055933 = 17.7867 BTC [+] {2} [21:57]
* asciilifeform bbl [21:57]
* CheckDavid has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [22:05]
mod6 asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/2YKPPYY.txt [22:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrXT1z ) [22:09]
trinque mod6: what does that "lasttry" indicate? [22:10]
trinque well that and seen [22:10]
trinque clock not set? [22:10]
* trixbutt is now known as trixisowned [22:11]
mod6 clock is < 1 minute off [22:13]
mod6 http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp#0636 [22:13]
assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/net.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGST6m ) [22:13]
trinque mod6: what about his clock? [22:13]
mod6 *shrug* [22:14]
mod6 asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441 [22:14]
mod6 or at least have been all dayt. [22:14]
mod6 my other instance is connected to the same node, and still syncing, but much further down the chain: height=215394 [22:15]
mod6 that one has been crawling for days. [22:15]
mod6 but still chugging. [22:15]
mod6 so it's ok [22:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95899 @ 0.00055828 = 53.5385 BTC [-] [22:18]
mod6 here's another sample with another more advanced test automated: http://dpaste.com/15BA2H1.txt [22:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CUgmAR ) [22:39]
mod6 this one shows that we can connect with -connect & -myip, sleep for a bit, check connection count, shutdown bitcoind, then sleep a bit more (in case we restart bitcoind on the next test, we wanna allow some time for the DB to sync etc.) [22:40]
mod6 again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python. [22:41]
* felipelalli (~felipelal@unaffiliated/felipelalli) has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81500 @ 0.00056899 = 46.3727 BTC [+] [22:47]
trinque eh is python really better than perl? [22:54]
trinque I have my doubts [22:54]
trinque perl python and ruby are all kissing cousins [22:55]
* TheAdversary has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:56]
* Hasimir has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:57]
mod6 well, i agree. i honestly like perl better, but that's maybe because I've been doing small things in it for 15 years. [22:57]
mod6 and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :} [22:57]
mod6 so it'd be nice to eventually move this into something that other guys know how to do. [22:58]
mod6 it's pretty cool tho 'eh? [22:58]
* Hasimir (~hfenring@unaffiliated/hasimir) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:00]
* TheAdversary (~adversary@unaffiliated/hasimir/bot/theadversary) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:00]
* NewLiberty has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:02]
BingoBoingo It's a bit harder to make python write only like perl. very hard to find good sample ruby code because rails [23:04]
* trixisowned (~skdsfhshf@174-29-53-125.hlrn.qwest.net) has left #bitcoin-assets [23:06]
* trixisowned (~skdsfhshf@174-29-53-125.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:06]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208987 < to be clear, assembly would allow co-routine 'jumps' just fine [23:12]
assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 23:10:42; decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible' [23:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00055285 = 32.7287 BTC [-] {3} [23:12]
mod6 <+ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html << nice work! [23:19]
assbot [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r ) [23:19]
BingoBoingo Systemdick appologist gets fucked by systemd-ism https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-System-Fail-4.2-More [23:21]
assbot Btrfs Seems To Finally Have Failed Me On A Production System - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1TP56dj ) [23:21]
lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) [23:25]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gNelws ) [23:25]
trinque mod6: yeah, super cool [23:25]
decimation asciilifeform: which 'rockchip' do you have? the imgur image is not clear [23:29]
* btcdrak has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [23:36]
mod6 "assbot: I don't do bots, mod6." << lollerskates! [23:43]
* julmac has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:45]
* julmac (~harric@85.12.8.104.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:59]
Category: Logs
Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.
Add your cents! »
    If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.