Forum logs for 20 Apr 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0049107 = 0.1228 BTC [-] [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00099013 = 16.7827 BTC [-] [00:05]
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bounce compare freedos. an unencumbered drop-in replacement for an obsolete proprietary system. what's the point of that? [00:11]
bounce useful to boot all sorts of dos diagnostics, flash utilities, whatnot. useful for games. the odd dos-only application that's critical to the business and irreplacable. and so on. same with reactos, except with a more recent and more widely used application base. [00:13]
fluffypony especially for games [00:17]
fluffypony OS X and Linux are not winning in that space atm [00:17]
fluffypony a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all the gunk pulled out would be nice [00:18]
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thestringpuller fluffypony: a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all the gunk pulled out would be nice << i've been sayin' that for years lol [00:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5196 BTC [-] [00:28]
joecool i thought directx code was merged into wine like a year or two ago [00:28]
turbo_ac100 midnightmagic: Yeah that's why I think the timing is good for ReactOS. Now with XP being axed for the nth time. [00:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.00684636 = 0.1027 BTC [+] {5} [00:30]
fluffypony joecool: yeah, we're discussing the "what for" part of dignork's comment [00:30]
thestringpuller joecool: it really doesn't work... [00:30]
thestringpuller i have so many glitches, so i run legit windows for steam... [00:31]
turbo_ac100 Problem is they won't be 100% XP anytime soon so it won't even be good enough for most people. [00:33]
fluffypony turbo_ac100: but for LoB applications it's already pretty good [00:34]
turbo_ac100 LoB? [00:34]
fluffypony oh sorry - Line of Business [00:34]
fluffypony so domain specific, company specific apps [00:35]
fluffypony that are expensive to rewrite [00:35]
turbo_ac100 hmkay. There is a good niche for them already then. [00:35]
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turbo_ac100 Question for those companys is: Why not use win7/8 [00:36]
fluffypony upgrade $$$ [00:36]
fluffypony also some of those apps may be really old - Windows NT stuff [00:36]
joecool does it really matter anymore, i thought steam was going all linux and MS pissed off the devs with the windows 8 directx stuf [00:37]
joecool *stuff [00:37]
fluffypony turbo_ac100: http://www.asiteaboutnothing.net/c_16bit-virtualization.html [00:37]
fluffypony the only way to run 16-bit apps in Vista+ is through a VM [00:37]
fluffypony or stick with XP [00:37]
turbo_ac100 oh [00:38]
turbo_ac100 ~10 lines in "Here is the quick workaround: Install DosBox." lol [00:38]
fluffypony lol [00:38]
fluffypony I've seen a LOT of LoB apps where they abstracted the business logic from the display/interface [00:39]
fluffypony the business logic stays as a 16-bit DLL/tray app [00:39]
fluffypony and the front-end gets a modern overhaul [00:39]
turbo_ac100 this is madness... [00:39]
fluffypony so then you're stuck on unsupported XP for a long time till that layer can get re-written [00:40]
fluffypony April 2009 – September 2010 (1 year 6 months) Newlands [00:41]
fluffypony Convert Banking systems written in MANTIS to COBOL under CICS using customised conversion tool and Microfocus Cobol. [00:41]
fluffypony ^^ modern banking upgrades [00:41]
fluffypony "we've moved to COBOL to keep it in line with our other systems" [00:41]
turbo_ac100 COBOL a'ight [00:43]
thestringpuller lol reminds me of TSYS TS1 platform [00:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3722 @ 0.00099203 = 3.6923 BTC [+] [00:51]
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dignork fluffypony: COBOL, allright, but on way hopefully they moved from dbase-style to relational DB, i've seen this happening in some insurance company [01:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06674 = 0.1335 BTC [-] [01:47]
bounce if I had a choice I'd much prefer my (expensive!) equipment be steered by something unix-y, but if that's Just Too Hard for the people designing the machinery I'll take an open source windows drop-in replacement. better for long term support and all that [01:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02970872 = 0.208 BTC [+] {6} [01:48]
bounce on that note, often manufacturers explicitly forbid to install updates and servicepacks since it might well break the app. gotta love brittle "engineering" (by certified engineers!) like that. I don't suppose there's embedded software consultancy houses that'll do stress testing on the programs to see they'll stand up to such outlandish weirness as running without admin rights and still function after hotfixes get installed and such. [01:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45677 @ 0.00098832 = 45.1435 BTC [-] {3} [01:52]
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cgcardona_ someone invented the wot! http://bitcoinmagazine.com/12469/bitcorati-hub-bitcoin-community/ !1!!1 [01:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04430003 = 0.1772 BTC [-] [02:03]
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dignork bounce: equipment manufactuer won't give you a warranty if you use windows drop-in [02:06]
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dignork cgcardona_: it sounds more like "yellow pages with comments" [02:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2} [02:19]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06675 = 0.2003 BTC [+] [02:33]
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