Forum logs for 19 Sep 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [02:37]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard. [02:37]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013 [02:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 900 @ 0.002744 = 2.4696 BTC [+] [02:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.16 = 0.64 BTC [+] [02:38]
Urushiol I'm jealous of your supporter mask, MP [02:39]
Urushiol cloak, rather [02:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 17453 @ 0.00277579 = 48.4459 BTC [+] {17} [02:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 240 @ 0.00274 = 0.6576 BTC [-] [02:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 229 @ 0.00273997 = 0.6275 BTC [-] {3} [02:41]
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mircea_popescu whyssat ? [02:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1552 = 0.3104 BTC [-] [02:43]
ThickAsThieves does MPEX have historical trade data accessible via API? [02:46]
mircea_popescu via assbot, for instance. [02:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1190 @ 0.00279347 = 3.3242 BTC [+] {3} [02:47]
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ThickAsThieves looking for the real thing i mean [02:48]
ThickAsThieves something reliable [02:48]
Ukyo mircea_popescu: assbot appears to sum trades together now :) [02:49]
ThickAsThieves I appeciate that feature actually [02:50]
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ThickAsThieves but it compromises other things [02:50]
kakobrekla ThickAsThieves http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/ [02:50]
ThickAsThieves thanks kako! [02:50]
kakobrekla :) [02:50]
mircea_popescu Ukyo i think that's a display thing [02:51]
Ukyo ah [02:51]
Ukyo btw, it appears the labcoin address has had a deposit of some 3.x btc from slush's pool [02:51]
ThickAsThieves Ukyo i'ma be bugging you next! [02:51]
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ThickAsThieves where's the for real API [02:51]
Ukyo ThickAsThieves: I have an app for that. [02:51]
ThickAsThieves I need all your dataz [02:52]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves other than that i've not yet made a data feed. waiting for a company to offer to do this, and convince me that it has a market above and beyond assbot. [02:52]
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ThickAsThieves nah not an app [02:52]
ThickAsThieves mp I will be in touch sooner or later on that then [02:52]
Ukyo but... "It' has the wifi's and the GBs" [02:52]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 932 @ 0.00262815 = 2.4494 BTC [-] {3} [02:54]
ThickAsThieves mircea_popescu, in case you didnt parse the conv from earlier today, [02:54]
ThickAsThieves I need to put on my Annoying BitBet Customer Hat [02:54]
ThickAsThieves This bet resolved incorrectly: http://bitbet.us/bet/460/mt-gox-to-have-50-trade-volume/ [02:55]
ThickAsThieves Proof is here: http://data.bitcoinity.org/#caaaaadgaa [02:55]
ThickAsThieves looking at 8/28/13 [02:55]
ThickAsThieves sorry [02:55]
ThickAsThieves Aug 28 [02:55]
ThickAsThieves :) [02:55]
mircea_popescu you have to use the link indicated in the bet tho. [02:56]
ThickAsThieves the bet link is dynamic [02:56]
ThickAsThieves which means at some point [02:56]
ThickAsThieves it would hav eproven the same [02:56]
ThickAsThieves just needed to be looking in the right day [02:56]
mircea_popescu not necessarily. [02:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00091747 = 13.3492 BTC [-] {2} [02:57]
ThickAsThieves how does BitBet know it was false? [02:57]
mircea_popescu your link currently reads for me " Something went terribly wrong" [02:57]
ThickAsThieves it checked every day? [02:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, does it include all the markets ? [02:57]
ThickAsThieves it includes enough data to show that any more added markets would only make it more right [02:57]
ThickAsThieves maybe you need javascript? [02:58]
mircea_popescu i don't follow that reasoning too well. but anyway : absent someone with a screenshot of the proper link, there's no basis to contest the bet. [02:58]
ThickAsThieves there's no basis to say it was false [02:58]
nubbins` there's no basis to say anything [02:58]
mircea_popescu bitbet does not need to show basis. [02:58]
nubbins` zing [02:58]
mircea_popescu you need to show basis if you wish to disagree. [02:58]
ThickAsThieves it needs to use data to decide [02:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 5 @ 0.18998 = 0.9499 BTC [+] [02:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2 = 10 BTC [+] [02:59]
ThickAsThieves if i were to get historical data from bitcoincharts.org and it showed it was true [02:59]
nubbins` i'm kinda surprised at HIM's price [02:59]
ThickAsThieves would you then fix the issue? [02:59]
mircea_popescu then you'd have a pretty good leg to stand on. [02:59]
mircea_popescu unless there was some flaw in it. in case you're wondering btw, this has happened in the past [03:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 7 @ 0.0175 = 0.1225 BTC [-] [03:00]
mircea_popescu (once) [03:00]
nubbins` seems like they're sitting on a bunch of mining hardware with very little prospect of roi [03:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3270 @ 0.00271259 = 8.8702 BTC [+] {5} [03:00]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/ [03:00]
mircea_popescu there. [03:00]
ozbot The anatomy of a disaster pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:00]
* nubbins` sighs [03:00]
nubbins` 0.01 btc minimum? paste an address [03:00]
nubbins` congrats, you've done what the globe & mail couldn't [03:01]
mircea_popescu whassat ? [03:01]
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nubbins` convince me to pay for content [03:01]
mircea_popescu lol [03:02]
mircea_popescu 1 sec [03:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.783 BTC [-] [03:02]
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mircea_popescu $avg [03:05]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: 131.15 [03:05]
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nubbins` what's everyone's thoughts on using brain wallets for cold storage? [03:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1550 @ 0.00283802 = 4.3989 BTC [+] {3} [03:11]
mircea_popescu if you've never made original contributions to a scientific field your mind is probably too banal for the brain wallet to be safer than the alternatives. [03:11]
nubbins` well, 'Password1' obv isn't going to cut it [03:13]
nubbins` but let's assume that one is intelligent enough to create a passphrase with a very high level of entropy [03:13]
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mircea_popescu then we can assume the wallet will be safe. [03:13]
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nubbins` y'know, i'm realizing that this isn't a terribly complicated topic to discuss [03:14]
mircea_popescu :p [03:14]
nubbins` anyway, seems a lot easier than keeping backups of wallet.dat files in encrypted usb drives in bank vaults [03:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 485 @ 0.002829 = 1.3721 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 5 @ 0.18998 = 0.9499 BTC [+] [03:15]
nubbins` while sacrificing nothing in the way of security, as long as it's done properly [03:15]
thestringpuller why not pull a breaking bad mr. nubbins` [03:15]
thestringpuller print out a paper wallet [03:16]
thestringpuller destroy all back ups [03:16]
thestringpuller bury paper wallet in desert [03:16]
thestringpuller put gps coordinates on lotto ticket [03:16]
mircea_popescu what if he needs it one day ? [03:16]
nubbins` i don't have reliable access to plastic barrels [03:16]
thestringpuller YISS [03:16]
thestringpuller :D [03:16]
nubbins` and, what if i need it one day [03:16]
thestringpuller go unbury your 10000 btc from the desert [03:16]
mircea_popescu he's gonna be out there digging ditches with nicky santoro. [03:17]
nubbins` better hope GPS accuracy is really tight on that particular day [03:17]
mircea_popescu "A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night." [03:17]
nubbins` lel [03:18]
nubbins` i was living in a rental once, and the landlord was showing some new prospective tenants around [03:18]
nubbins` this guy walks in [03:18]
nubbins` "any idiots or sketch-bags around here? 'cause i don't wanna be digging' holes" [03:18]
nubbins` although i was torn, i eventually chose the response "just us" [03:19]
mircea_popescu lol [03:19]
mircea_popescu some other time, two chicks living together, landlord comes to do the same thing with a young goofy married couple. [03:20]
mircea_popescu one of the two says "oh, i rent here, but she comes with the place". [03:20]
mircea_popescu dood was drooling so hard his wife didn't want to rent anymore. [03:21]
nubbins` lel [03:21]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu what would be the ideal solution for a lemming storing btc "securely" [03:21]
thestringpuller or is security not a privelage the stupid deserve? [03:22]
mircea_popescu strangely you can spell security but not privilege! [03:22]
nubbins` paper wallet printed from offline machine [03:22]
nubbins` but hey [03:22]
thestringpuller XD [03:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.797 BTC [+] [03:22]
nubbins` lemmings don't have offline machines [03:22]
mircea_popescu but yeah, the best security is having a cheap laptop you don't use for anything else. generate a wallet and some gpg keys. [03:23]
mircea_popescu you can email your wallet to yourself in gpg encrypted form for backup, and just hang on tight to the laptop. [03:23]
asciilifeform know what would be spiffy? mechanical btc engine, a la Kurta. [03:23]
asciilifeform the ultimate 'offline'. [03:23]
pankkake if it's inconvenient, people are going to compromise [03:23]
pankkake so I am really skeptical of paper wallets [03:23]
mircea_popescu anyone can afford/use a cheapo old laptop [03:23]
mircea_popescu and nobody's stealing that. [03:23]
nubbins` y'know, a printer/scanner combo would be a great thing for a cold machine to have. [03:23]
kakobrekla how about those hw wallets for ze noobs [03:23]
mircea_popescu meh. i dont trust hardware these days. [03:24]
thestringpuller nobody's stealing it because it's old? [03:24]
thestringpuller or nobody's stealing it because GPG is hard to crack? [03:24]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller yeah. who do you think steals a laptop you got for 180 on ebay ? [03:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 6 @ 0.01799 = 0.1079 BTC [+] [03:24]
thestringpuller notbad.jpg [03:24]
nubbins` bonus if it's covered in stickers [03:24]
thestringpuller lolol hipster laptops [03:24]
nubbins` anything valuable, you wanna ruin with stickers [03:24]
thestringpuller no one steals those [03:24]
mircea_popescu stuff some pubes under the spacebar [03:24]
mircea_popescu that kinda thing [03:24]
pankkake burglars are dumb. I know from experience [03:25]
thestringpuller lol "this thing only has pubes and screenplays, I can't pawn this" [03:25]
pankkake they don't know what's valuable [03:25]
asciilifeform dumb enough to throw anything vaguely-laptop-like in a sack and look afterwards. [03:25]
thestringpuller with that logic you could make a poster with public private key that sits next to your bed [03:25]
nubbins` anyway, cold machine with printer/scanner: you wanna decrypt a message, just print it from your hot machine and do OCR on the cold machine [03:25]
asciilifeform i was on a jury where an idiot did exactly this [03:25]
nubbins` saves all that pesky manual transcription [03:25]
thestringpuller no burglar gonna steal a poster [03:25]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you can trivially put a qr reader [03:25]
pankkake anyway laptops, even without bitcoin, can easily be more valuable for their data [03:25]
mircea_popescu cheaper, faster, just as good. [03:26]
nubbins` too true [03:26]
nubbins` cheap webcam [03:26]
nubbins` tougher for gpg tho [03:26]
mircea_popescu pankkake you know, i've never been burglarized ? [03:26]
pankkake but why would you care? encrypt, put backups everywhere [03:26]
thestringpuller "My bank won't wire transfer to Slovenia (Bitstamp) says that it is a sanctioned country." [03:27]
nubbins` probably got it mixed up with syria [03:27]
mircea_popescu or somalia. [03:28]
nubbins` or siberia [03:28]
thestringpuller Silly Americans. [03:28]
mircea_popescu siberia is not a country. [03:28]
nubbins` tell that to the people advocating military strikes against it [03:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.813 BTC [+] [03:28]
asciilifeform zbigniew brzezinski has a map in his evil plotting room where it *is* a country [03:28]
nubbins` actually, don't; you'll only draw attention to yourself [03:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol good point. [03:29]
mircea_popescu btw nubbins` next time the marketing herpderps wish to know how come i get more traffic rthan the globe&mail i'ma quote you to them. [03:30]
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nubbins` that, and there's less vitriol in the comments on trilema [03:31]
nubbins` take that as a compliment or a slight [03:31]
thestringpuller lol [03:31]
mircea_popescu actually my comment section is usually better than the articles. [03:31]
mircea_popescu present company excluded of course. [03:32]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 220 @ 0.002399 = 0.5278 BTC [+] {2} [03:32]
nubbins` natch [03:32]
nubbins` and i agree [03:33]
nubbins` comment sections are usually abysmal intellectual wastelands [03:33]
nubbins` where the open-mouthed and the dull-eyed spill their half-baked opinions [03:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 1108 @ 0.0026 = 2.8808 BTC [+] [03:34]
mircea_popescu re open-mouthed http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/alien-no-cocksucker.jpg [03:34]
nubbins` never realizing that they're unpaid actors in a reality show called "morons on the internet" [03:34]
mircea_popescu reality shows pay now ?! [03:35]
nubbins` well, i thought the winners got paid? [03:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.78266666 = 10.696 BTC [-] {4} [03:35]
mircea_popescu set of steak knives ? [03:36]
nubbins` i guess some just do it for the 'fame' [03:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [-] [03:36]
nubbins` or the IRL equivalent of sticking a sharpie in your ass for a btc [03:37]
mircea_popescu "some". it used to be porn actresses were paid, but by now it's mostly hookers [03:38]
mircea_popescu ahem. i mean escorts. [03:38]
mircea_popescu doing it to be able to say they are published writers. [03:38]
mircea_popescu oslt [03:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.79 = 16.11 BTC [+] [03:39]
mircea_popescu and speaking of cocksucker blues, [03:45]
mircea_popescu this is a train designed to BLOW SNOW : http://www.toddicus.com/skagway%20snow%20train%20mover.JPG [03:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.00274837 = 0.1374 BTC [-] {3} [03:45]
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asciilifeform reminds me of http://www.granddistraction.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tbm.jpg [03:46]
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Urushiol is there any info on the discovery asset? like who runs it and what their experience / proof of competency is? [03:46]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure there's no proof of competency. [03:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what's that, uranium centrifuge ? [03:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 145 @ 0.00280335 = 0.4065 BTC [+] {7} [03:48]
Ukyo Urushiol: tyrion of ADDICTION runs it [03:49]
asciilifeform tunnel digger. [03:49]
mircea_popescu looked stationary. [03:49]
asciilifeform as in, everybody's metro [03:49]
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asciilifeform there's caterpillars down there somewhere. [03:50]
mircea_popescu jesus christ, chrome has taken over the internet. 69k / 200k visits today come via chrome [03:50]
mircea_popescu when has this happened ?! [03:50]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3186052#msg3186052 [03:51]
ozbot [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. [03:51]
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mircea_popescu ff 44k, msi 17k, i guess microsoft is pretty much dead huh. [03:51]
mircea_popescu pankkake deprived reads pretty sane. now wtf is qwith the usagi acquisition ? he ever explain ? [03:52]
pankkake he did [03:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 566 @ 0.00044 = 0.249 BTC [+] [03:52]
pankkake it seems to be low risk for *him*, but I haven't read the details [03:53]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3186110#msg3186110 [03:53]
ozbot [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. [03:53]
mircea_popescu o look at that. [03:53]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mcyrb/labcoin_crashes_as_news_reveals_lies/ [03:56]
mircea_popescu somewhat lulzy. [03:56]
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ozbot Labcoin crashes as news reveals lies : Bitcoin [03:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 233 @ 0.00282635 = 0.6585 BTC [+] {4} [04:01]
kakobrekla >>>So let me get this right. Someone mined 3 BTC and sent it to the Labcoin wallet to cause a price spike? [04:01]
kakobrekla Which I bought into. [04:01]
kakobrekla How dumb am I? What kind a person does this? [04:01]
kakobrekla LMAO [04:01]
mircea_popescu "Obviously, I'm just pointing out that MP is the Carrot Top of investment advice" [04:01]
mircea_popescu "Scott Thompson (born February 25, 1965), better known by his stage name Carrot Top, is an American comedian, known for his bright red hair, prop comedy, and self-deprecating humor." [04:01]
mircea_popescu dude... nothing matches. red hair, me ? self-deprecating humor ?! [04:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01743 = 0.1394 BTC [+] [04:02]
pankkake I'd just reply with "If you have Labcoin shares (and don't have inside knowledge) you ARE a fucking idiot. There's no grey area on that." [04:02]
mircea_popescu what the fuck, you could pick a better matching comedian throwing darts [04:02]
kakobrekla you throw darts? [04:02]
mircea_popescu i sometimes throw darts. [04:03]
mircea_popescu this is why i like girls with meaty tails. [04:03]
pankkake nice [04:03]
pankkake so what comedian would you matched to? [04:04]
mircea_popescu hm. [04:04]
pankkake +be [04:04]
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mircea_popescu well, i dunno. don rickles if i want to flatter myself ? [04:04]
mircea_popescu i mean, he says nigger all the time, right ? [04:04]
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pankkake widely known as an insult comic [04:06]
pankkake nice [04:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.002789 = 1.3945 BTC [-] [04:06]
mircea_popescu actually he's widely known as "mr warmth" [04:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 118 @ 0.00279012 = 0.3292 BTC [+] {2} [04:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2471 @ 0.00280365 = 6.9278 BTC [+] {4} [04:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 529 @ 0.002835 = 1.4997 BTC [+] [04:11]
mircea_popescu Since we're doing Casino : "Ace Rothstein: Listen, if you didn't know you're bein' scammed, you're too fuckin' dumb to keep this job. If you did know, you were in on it. Either way, you're out. Get out! Go on. Let's go." [04:11]
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thestringpuller ;;google don rickles [04:15]
gribble Don Rickles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Don Rickles: ; Don Rickles - IMDb: [04:15]
thestringpuller don rickles is so old [04:15]
thestringpuller "I'm Mr. Potato head" [04:15]
thestringpuller http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1979376/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1 - seriously? [04:16]
ozbot Toy Story 4 - IMDb [04:16]
mircea_popescu yeah, but he's the only guy mocking obama out there. [04:16]
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thestringpuller not jon steward? [04:16]
thestringpuller or stephen colbert? [04:16]
mircea_popescu not afaik. what they say ? [04:17]
Duffer1 https://www.google.com/#q=jon%20stewart%20slams%20obama [04:17]
ozbot Google [04:17]
mircea_popescu “President Obama is a personal friend of mine. He was over to the house yesterday, but the mop broke.” [04:17]
Duffer1 it's pretty funny usually worth watching [04:18]
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Duffer1 stewarts an equal opportunity hater, it's why i like him [04:18]
mircea_popescu always a good thing that. [04:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.802 BTC [+] [04:22]
thestringpuller http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2013/09/04/jon-stewart-latest-media-lib-blast-obama-syria-war-plans [04:23]
thestringpuller that has a pretty good treanscript [04:23]
thestringpuller OBAMA: We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. [04:23]
thestringpuller STEWART: See the red line. You can.t use chemicals to kill your own people. You have to do it organically! America and the world want to make sure Assad only uses locally sourced, free-long-range land ordinance. [04:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.808 = 3.616 BTC [+] {2} [04:23]
thestringpuller Now, back in the early .80s, we knew that Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and were likely to use them again. Not only did we not attack them, we supported Iraq in doing it. And of course, we still reserve the right to use bunker-busters, cluster bombs, and the Mark 77 which is not, not filled with napalm, technically. [04:23]
thestringpuller soooo i mean rickles isn't the only one talking out against obama [04:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.82 = 3.64 BTC [+] [04:25]
mircea_popescu they seem quite on different levels. [04:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.784 BTC [-] [04:27]
thestringpuller how so? [04:27]
thestringpuller steward is definitely for lemmings [04:28]
thestringpuller since he actively knows only stoners watch his show regularly [04:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00091399 = 3.1971 BTC [-] [04:28]
thestringpuller "Put down the bong, the pope isn't coming" and such comments [04:28]
mircea_popescu saying "take this twenty and give it to your sister" is one thing. saying "well i hear a certain young lady has seen more things than you'd expect" it's quite another. [04:28]
ThickAsThieves stewart* [04:30]
thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/l39e52c.jpg - relevant [04:30]
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mircea_popescu lol [04:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0174 = 0.174 BTC [-] [04:32]
mircea_popescu that's a pretty bad tie. [04:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 32 @ 0.09714062 = 3.1085 BTC [-] {4} [04:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 426 @ 0.00264825 = 1.1282 BTC [-] {11} [04:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00256124 = 12.8062 BTC [-] {4} [04:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BMF] 75 @ 0.03385333 = 2.539 BTC [+] {4} [04:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.01736 = 0.5034 BTC [-] [04:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 908 @ 0.0025479 = 2.3135 BTC [-] {3} [04:38]
ThickAsThieves So mircea, would you be willing to at least independently acknowledge that this data shows Gox having less than 50% of btc volume on Aug 28? http://data.bitcoinity.org/#caaaaadgaa [04:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.01735098 = 1.2319 BTC [-] {2} [04:40]
mircea_popescu i can't load it. how'd i go about that ? [04:41]
mircea_popescu put the page as a pastebin somewhere ? [04:41]
ThickAsThieves it's graphical [04:42]
ThickAsThieves use Chrome, like everybody else [04:42]
ThickAsThieves :) [04:42]
mircea_popescu lol well, i'm willing to acknowledge i don't use chrome. [04:42]
mircea_popescu so put it as a screenshot. [04:42]
ThickAsThieves loads in Opera for me [04:42]
mircea_popescu anyway, since i'm stuck guessing : your link probably onyl counts mtgoxusd. [04:43]
mircea_popescu there's also eur, jpy, and whatever the fuck else, like 4-5 things. [04:44]
mircea_popescu this was discuissed on the bet comments on like two different passes. [04:44]
ThickAsThieves its all currencies [04:44]
mircea_popescu is it ? [04:44]
ThickAsThieves yes [04:44]
thestringpuller yea it's all them [04:44]
thestringpuller currency: "all currencies" [04:44]
mircea_popescu but does that actually correctly include the same thing as the bitcoincharts includes. [04:45]
mircea_popescu i mean, "all currencies" might mean anything. [04:45]
ThickAsThieves http://imgur.com/wykMkTr [04:45]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [04:45]
ThickAsThieves thats the chart [04:46]
ThickAsThieves here is the currency list [04:46]
ThickAsThieves http://imgur.com/UZ7SKmQ [04:46]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [04:46]
mircea_popescu well now we know for a fact it's not good : the bitcoincharts site doesn't include this bit2c thing [04:47]
mircea_popescu also i don't see no rmbtb [04:47]
ThickAsThieves including more exchanges would only help my case [04:47]
Ukyo there are roughly 5 chinese rmb exchanges [04:48]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves how do you reason ? [04:48]
mircea_popescu if you're half of your household including more girlfriends makes you more or less a % ? [04:48]
ThickAsThieves gox's pie would decrease more [04:48]
mircea_popescu exactly ? [04:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.01679 = 0.8731 BTC [-] {2} [04:48]
ThickAsThieves yes the bet says gox will have less than 50% [04:49]
mircea_popescu which is why your substitute source is no good : it includes more things. [04:49]
ThickAsThieves yes no [04:49]
ThickAsThieves it resolved no [04:49]
mircea_popescu right... [04:49]
ThickAsThieves but this chart shows it had less than 50% [04:49]
ThickAsThieves on Aug 28 [04:49]
mircea_popescu on some substitute source wherein a lot of other exchanges were counted. [04:49]
ThickAsThieves adding more competition of exchanges would make gox even lower [04:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.00255 = 1.02 BTC [-] {2} [04:49]
mircea_popescu exactly. [04:49]
ThickAsThieves oh so you mean this page has more than bitocincharts has? [04:50]
mircea_popescu yes. [04:50]
mircea_popescu mtgoxUSD, bitstampUSD, btcnCNY, btceUSD, mtgoxEUR, mtgoxJPY, btcdeEUR, cbxUSD, mtgoxGBP, mtgoxCAD, bitcurexPLN, btceRUR, virtexCAD, mtgoxAUD, virwoxSLL [04:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 385 @ 0.002585 = 0.9952 BTC [-] [04:50]
mircea_popescu Ukyo it's true, but it's also damned hard to distinguish who's serious etc. gotta pick some sort of a fixed criterion. [04:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.00254994 = 0.255 BTC [-] {2} [04:51]
ThickAsThieves on that day, bitstamp alone had 14k [04:52]
ThickAsThieves gox had 15k [04:52]
ThickAsThieves ad campbx [04:53]
ThickAsThieves add* [04:53]
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ThickAsThieves and gox is at <50% [04:53]
mircea_popescu i find it suspicious mtgox is one single thing, and i find it suspicious that thing is 2 digit precise. [04:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1837 @ 0.00242511 = 4.4549 BTC [-] {9} [04:53]
mircea_popescu anyway. all this would have been way more useful sometime around august the 8th [04:54]
ThickAsThieves it does 1 decimal [04:54]
mircea_popescu well what is 15k ? [04:54]
ThickAsThieves the issue is that a dynamic chart shouldnt be allowed [04:54]
ThickAsThieves as a data point [04:54]
ThickAsThieves since there is no way to prove yay/nay [04:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 295 @ 0.00241989 = 0.7139 BTC [-] {2} [04:54]
mircea_popescu sure it is. what happened to claiming it ? [04:55]
ThickAsThieves ? [04:55]
mircea_popescu you know, any of the interested partioes going "HEY! This bet is won!" [04:55]
ThickAsThieves because no one person was looking at it all times [04:55]
mircea_popescu tough. [04:55]
ThickAsThieves it's bitbet's job [04:55]
ThickAsThieves to resolve it [04:55]
ThickAsThieves not the bettors [04:55]
ThickAsThieves reality is reality, whether bettors point it out or not [04:56]
mircea_popescu well, reality so far is "no". [04:56]
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ThickAsThieves show me [04:56]
mircea_popescu that's the story here : bitbet enacts reality. that's all i do to show you : point to the bitbet decision. [04:56]
mircea_popescu you disagree, you show me. [04:56]
ThickAsThieves so bitbet has no responsibility for it's resolutions to reflect reality? [04:57]
ThickAsThieves its* [04:57]
mircea_popescu bitbet resolutions ARE reality. [04:57]
Kleeck__ LOL. [04:57]
ThickAsThieves how about the data used to make them? [04:57]
Kleeck__ Classic mircea_popescu. [04:57]
mircea_popescu this is like going "o, the court should show me". dude... you got a case, show your case. you don't got no case... that's what it is. [04:57]
Kleeck__ haha. [04:58]
Kleeck__ Yes. Bitbet = habeas corpus [04:58]
mircea_popescu well, the data, sure. but it has to be THE data. [04:58]
ThickAsThieves would you mind sharing the data used to resolve it? [04:58]
mircea_popescu Kleeck__ no but it's not practical to have bitbet store details in any degree of detail permanently. [04:58]
ThickAsThieves yknow how lawyers share their data [04:59]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i would, cause it'd create untenable precedent. [04:59]
ThickAsThieves please disclose [04:59]
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ThickAsThieves cant use court as justification [04:59]
ThickAsThieves without same allowances [04:59]
mircea_popescu it's economically unfeasible to require bitbet to permanently maintain records of everything. it's also kinda against the entire concept of bitcoin. [04:59]
ThickAsThieves it'll take you more time dealing with me than just showing me [04:59]
Kleeck__ What a perfect position you've created for yourself MP. Bitbet = Reality, but it can't reveal how it comes to it's conclusions. :P [04:59]
mircea_popescu it's not a matter that it can't reveal tho. [05:00]
ThickAsThieves so you concur the court case justification is not applicable here? [05:00]
mircea_popescu nope. [05:00]
ThickAsThieves so it's some kind of court where everyone has to use facts but you? [05:01]
Kleeck__ Sounds scammy. [05:01]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves pretty much. bitbet is the authority. there's not some other authority to which bitbet submits facts [05:01]
mircea_popescu and emphatically that putative authority isn't any user. [05:02]
ThickAsThieves not true [05:02]
ThickAsThieves the authority is named in the bet [05:02]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, users are welcome to bring their cases before the supreme tribunal which is bitbet. [05:02]
ThickAsThieves bitcoincharts [05:02]
mircea_popescu that's the trier of fact as it were. [05:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1800 @ 0.0024014 = 4.3225 BTC [-] {6} [05:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.01676 = 0.6369 BTC [-] [05:03]
ThickAsThieves i'm merely asking for bitbet to assert its good faith to the court by disclosing how it knew gox was never <50% before sept [05:03]
mircea_popescu bitbet is the court. [05:03]
ThickAsThieves is the court allowed to make decisions that conflict with reality [05:03]
mircea_popescu that;'s the point, and that's a giood half of the value and utility of bitbet to the community. [05:03]
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mircea_popescu teaching people how to work in an actually structured system, rather than floating in this internet vague. [05:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01679 = 0.1175 BTC [+] [05:04]
mircea_popescu anyway, decisions that conflict with reality aren't at issue here. reality isn't what you feel it is, it's what you can prove it is. [05:04]
mircea_popescu bring that proof. [05:04]
ThickAsThieves i'm not sure the court gives me any avenue for doing so [05:05]
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mircea_popescu well, there's the bitcoincharts site. [05:05]
ThickAsThieves the link stated in the bet is dynamic [05:05]
mircea_popescu looky, you can't argue "i had a proof but i ated it". [05:05]
pankkake is it on archive.org? [05:05]
ThickAsThieves any moment where it was <50% in Aug is not able to be displayed on that link [05:05]
mircea_popescu that's unfortunate, but not novel. [05:05]
mircea_popescu unless tactm changed how bitcoincharts operates since the bet was made. [05:06]
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ThickAsThieves archive.org is not bitcoincharts.org, the court will argue [05:06]
mircea_popescu archive.org would work actually. [05:06]
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ThickAsThieves it did not archive that day, and the charts dont load [05:07]
ThickAsThieves pronly due to them being dynamic [05:07]
mircea_popescu i'd have been surprised if this thing was amenable to some sort of resolution ;/ [05:07]
mircea_popescu hey, do the graphs get constructed out of the request somehow ? [05:08]
ThickAsThieves nope [05:08]
mircea_popescu alternatively, you could maybe bug tactm (the owner) to check. [05:08]
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ThickAsThieves info@bitcoincharts.com? [05:09]
ThickAsThieves or does he IRC? [05:09]
mircea_popescu well i don't see him on atm. [05:09]
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Kleeck__ Was this another bitbet? [05:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0167 = 0.5344 BTC [-] [05:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.15501818 = 1.7052 BTC [-] {2} [05:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 826 @ 0.00240177 = 1.9839 BTC [+] {3} [05:13]
mircea_popescu jesus this is a two week + old resolution ? [05:13]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves srsly, what have you been waiting for ?! [05:13]
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thestringpuller lolol [05:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 69 @ 0.00246933 = 0.1704 BTC [+] {2} [05:14]
mircea_popescu also, bitcoinity is doing daily averages, but it seems to me bitcoincharts is doing 30 day averages. [05:14]
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ThickAsThieves well i had a number of bets, all of which i was sure i won and i was digging through emails and saw notifications of .00001 deposits on one of my betting addresses [05:16]
ThickAsThieves so i investigated [05:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01668499 = 0.8342 BTC [-] {3} [05:16]
ThickAsThieves it's not exactly easy to keep tabs on bitbets [05:16]
ThickAsThieves should have an optional email notfi [05:16]
ThickAsThieves notification* [05:16]
mircea_popescu hm [05:17]
mircea_popescu not really great for user privacy that. [05:17]
ThickAsThieves it's good to have options [05:17]
ThickAsThieves some emails can be pretty damn private [05:17]
ThickAsThieves you can gpg it if it makes you feel better ;) [05:17]
mod6 o_0 [05:18]
mircea_popescu currently bitbet retains no user info of any kind. there is value in this model. [05:18]
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ThickAsThieves maybe an rss of resolutions? [05:18]
mircea_popescu i thought there was ? [05:18]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla does bitbet have a resolutions rss ? [05:19]
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mod6 there is an RSS feed (http://bitbet.us/rss/), and a twitter feed (@BitBets), but neither broadcast bet resolutions yet. [05:21]
ThickAsThieves it would also be cool if the headers on the homepage linked to full displays of that category [05:22]
ThickAsThieves like if I click the black Resolutions text [05:22]
mircea_popescu What a perfect position you've created for yourself MP. << this happens to be how business works, incidentally. you do a narrowly defined, specified thing. you never do "everything", ie, unbounded obligations. [05:22]
ThickAsThieves it would take me to all resolutions [05:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 14637 @ 0.000913 = 13.3636 BTC [-] [05:22]
ThickAsThieves or accurately resolving bets as a service [05:22]
ThickAsThieves much too specific [05:22]
ThickAsThieves (digging myself in a hole here if i'm wrong, i know...) [05:23]
mircea_popescu lol [05:23]
mod6 yeah, you can just click the link in the tweet/rss stream and it takes you to the bet results. [05:23]
mircea_popescu i think some small RSS icons next to resolved and closed topics would prolly be useful. [05:23]
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ThickAsThieves i mena literally clicking the word "RESOLVED" [05:24]
mircea_popescu to do what ? [05:24]
ThickAsThieves to see headlines for ALL resolved bets [05:24]
ThickAsThieves paginated if needed [05:24]
mircea_popescu you know you can just search for that. [05:24]
ThickAsThieves i know [05:24]
mircea_popescu select all / resolved in search box. [05:24]
ThickAsThieves but too many clicks bro bro [05:24]
mircea_popescu this i a point. [05:24]
ThickAsThieves makes me have to think n stuff [05:25]
ThickAsThieves cater to my impulses plz [05:25]
ThickAsThieves this is gambling after all [05:25]
mircea_popescu hey, the calculator did get put in :D [05:26]
ThickAsThieves yep, it's dope [05:26]
mircea_popescu and in a format i actually like. [05:26]
ThickAsThieves i emailed tactm, so we'll see if he actually responds [05:27]
mircea_popescu can yopu check bitcoinity for current mtgox % ? [05:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 500 @ 0.00232956 = 1.1648 BTC [-] {10} [05:28]
ThickAsThieves only using that alpha charts page i linked [05:28]
mircea_popescu hm ? [05:29]
ThickAsThieves http://data.bitcoinity.org/#caaaaadgaa [05:29]
mircea_popescu no, what i mean is, bitcoincharts currently shows mtgox as [05:29]
mircea_popescu { label: "mtgoxUSD", data: 37}, { label: "mtgoxEUR", data: 6}, { label: "mtgoxJPY", data: 3}, { label: "mtgoxGBP", data: 1}, { label: "mtgoxCAD", data: 1}, { label: "mtgoxAUD", data: 1}, [05:29]
ozbot Bitcoinity.org [05:29]
mircea_popescu which adds up to 49% [05:29]
mircea_popescu now, the only way mtgox has 49% is if these are averages for the past 30 days. [05:29]
mircea_popescu otherwise there's no way. [05:29]
ThickAsThieves ah [05:30]
mircea_popescu and if indeed that's the case then we definitely have a problem with the daily averaged bitcoinity data. [05:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.01663206 = 0.4823 BTC [-] {2} [05:30]
ThickAsThieves tis alpha anyway [05:30]
mircea_popescu what's alpha ? [05:31]
ThickAsThieves data.bitcoinity.org [05:31]
mircea_popescu o o. [05:31]
ThickAsThieves i didnt expect you take take the source to change the bet [05:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0166388 = 0.416 BTC [+] {2} [05:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 46 @ 0.002496 = 0.1148 BTC [+] [05:31]
ThickAsThieves just to acknowledge that what it showed for that date was such [05:31]
mircea_popescu well that's why those links are in there (bet judged by X source). so these sorts of disputes can be dispatched. [05:32]
ThickAsThieves partly to make sure i wasnt crazy to spend any time on this [05:32]
mircea_popescu o [05:32]
ThickAsThieves i just wish the source chosen was not dymanic [05:32]
ThickAsThieves kinda shit [05:32]
mircea_popescu well yeah. not sure what to do about that. [05:32]
ThickAsThieves dont allow it? [05:32]
mircea_popescu i mean... on one hand forbidding bets of the sort seems strange, as the people aren't obliged to bet on it. [05:32]
ThickAsThieves for bets of this natue [05:32]
ThickAsThieves well the bet wouldve been fixed simply, [05:33]
ThickAsThieves name the closing date as the measure [05:33]
ThickAsThieves instead it said any time [05:33]
ThickAsThieves yet gave no way to see every time [05:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01001818 = 0.1102 BTC [-] {2} [05:33]
mircea_popescu well yes but entirely different tihngs these. european vs american options. [05:33]
ThickAsThieves provable vs not provable in this case [05:33]
ThickAsThieves you couldve been able to say Well when we looked it was not true sorry [05:34]
mircea_popescu looky here : out of the three contentious bets so far, the two most problematic ones were the ones which actually were quite provable [05:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01665727 = 0.3665 BTC [+] {2} [05:34]
ThickAsThieves but instead your resolution implies you would have known if it were No [05:34]
pankkake the bet creator should provide a shell script able to determine the bet outcome! [05:34]
mircea_popescu (that bfl didn't deliver ands that bitfury did) [05:34]
ThickAsThieves but i suspect you wouldnt have known [05:34]
ThickAsThieves the fact is there is total ability for the bet to resolve incorrectly if no one is always watching the page and no historical data is served by the page [05:35]
mircea_popescu i somehow doubt a bet with 100 btc riding on it literally had nobody giving a shit. [05:36]
mircea_popescu i mean this is the internet. what else are people to do ? [05:36]
ThickAsThieves i didnt watch it [05:36]
ThickAsThieves :/ [05:36]
ThickAsThieves obv i should have [05:36]
ThickAsThieves and i do represent the entire internet [05:37]
ThickAsThieves sooooo [05:37]
mircea_popescu lolk [05:38]
mircea_popescu anyway, can you see what % mtgox has on bitcoinity for today ? [05:38]
ThickAsThieves 24h? [05:38]
mircea_popescu the same thing as what you used for the 8th of aug or w/e it was [05:38]
ThickAsThieves sure, sec [05:39]
mircea_popescu i'm trying to compare things here so as to see how the two items rate. [05:39]
ThickAsThieves it has 18.2k for gox, [05:39]
ThickAsThieves bitstamp 13.0k 37.52% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves mtgox 11.1k 32.02% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves btce 3.66k 10.58% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves localbitcoins 2.62k 7.58% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves btcchina 1.53k 4.42% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves campbx 790 2.28% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves rmbtb 739 2.14% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves cavirtex 619 1.79% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves bitcurex 558 1.61% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves justcoin 16.6 0.05% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves bit2c 0.500 0.00% [05:40]
ThickAsThieves hrm [05:40]
Kleeck__ Link to the bet? [05:40]
mircea_popescu o we gotta add all this shit ? [05:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BTC-BOND] 27 @ 0.01034814 = 0.2794 BTC [+] {2} [05:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 20 @ 0.18999 = 3.7998 BTC [+] [05:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 21 @ 0.01700714 = 0.3571 BTC [-] {3} [05:40]
ThickAsThieves i'm not sure wtf [05:40]
ThickAsThieves i think the day chart does not include today [05:41]
ThickAsThieves but the 24h does [05:41]
ThickAsThieves conflicting data [05:41]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 18.2 / (18.2+13+11.1+3.66+2.62+790+619+558) [05:41]
gribble 0.00902965895673 [05:41]
mircea_popescu lol [05:41]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 18.2 / (18.2+13+11.1+3.66+2.62+.790+.619+.558) [05:41]
gribble 0.360060933389 [05:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 2 @ 0.185 = 0.37 BTC [-] [05:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 43 @ 0.01055 = 0.4537 BTC [+] [05:41]
mircea_popescu see, according to this graph mtgox for today is at 36^ [05:41]
mircea_popescu according to bitcoincharts, mtgox for today is at 49% [05:41]
ThickAsThieves 37.52% [05:42]
mircea_popescu i tell you, they don't average over the same period. [05:42]
ThickAsThieves it's in my paste :) [05:42]
ThickAsThieves well btccharts shows 38% [05:42]
ThickAsThieves if they are rounding up [05:43]
ThickAsThieves then we're spot on [05:43]
mircea_popescu Kleeck__ http://bitbet.us/bet/460/mt-gox-to-have-50-trade-volume/ [05:43]
ThickAsThieves oh [05:43]
dexX7 hey tat, sorry to interrupt the talk - do you have any info on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82760 like a real name or so? you gave him a trust rating [05:43]
ThickAsThieves that doesnt include the mini gox slices [05:43]
ThickAsThieves sec i'll check [05:43]
ThickAsThieves forum is slow for me atm [05:43]
dexX7 thanks [05:43]
ThickAsThieves whats the name? [05:44]
Kleeck__ That's one of the better bets I've seen. Not a block of text with poor wording. [05:44]
mircea_popescu Sep 19 04:43:50 anyway, since i'm stuck guessing : your link probably onyl counts mtgoxusd. [05:44]
mircea_popescu you noob you! [05:44]
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Kleeck__ But still lacks specificity. Why not LIST the exchanges that count towards it? [05:44]
ThickAsThieves dexx7 [05:44]
ThickAsThieves if you read my rating [05:44]
dexX7 ThickAsThieves: sam noi, fabrizio tatti [05:44]
ThickAsThieves it says I hosted escrow [05:45]
ThickAsThieves and the deal went fine [05:45]
dexX7 yes [05:45]
dexX7 but maybe, maybe he did mention it via pm [05:45]
ThickAsThieves thats the extent of it [05:45]
ThickAsThieves i'll look at pms from the day [05:45]
mircea_popescu Kleeck__ how would you know aforehand ? [05:45]
ThickAsThieves sec [05:45]
Kleeck__ Be as specific as possible. [05:45]
Kleeck__ Is the bet around exchange volumes? What exchanges? [05:45]
mircea_popescu that's exactly what it is. as speciffic as possible. [05:46]
Kleeck__ No it isn't. [05:46]
ThickAsThieves wait a sec dexx7 [05:46]
Kleeck__ It's broad. [05:46]
mircea_popescu the bet was around the exchanges as defined by bitcoincharts. [05:46]
ThickAsThieves why am i hunting this down anyway [05:46]
ThickAsThieves plz dont tell me, [05:46]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's "delaria". [05:46]
ThickAsThieves to determine if labcoin are scams [05:46]
Kleeck__ Oh. My fault. [05:46]
Kleeck__ I didn't see the bitcoincharts bit. [05:46]
dexX7 i'm not really sure what i'm looking for, but "labcoin" uses his username "delaria" as skype handle and "delaria" posted some avalon pictures/pool stats labeled with "labcoinx_avalon" etc. [05:46]
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mircea_popescu Kleeck__ too block of text-y ? :D [05:46]
ThickAsThieves so that is why [05:47]
Kleeck__ :) No. This was a good bet. [05:47]
ThickAsThieves let me save you the time [05:47]
dexX7 haha k [05:47]
ThickAsThieves labcoin is a fucking scam from day 1 [05:47]
ThickAsThieves there [05:47]
ThickAsThieves you can rest now [05:47]
Kleeck__ I don't use Bitbet because most of the best that appeal to me have shitty wording and lack specificity. [05:47]
ThickAsThieves we all said so from day 1 [05:47]
mircea_popescu you're supposed to say "as mp pointed out, labcoin is a scam from day one." [05:47]
mircea_popescu like that reddit guy [05:47]
mircea_popescu so why not make better ones ? you get paid even. [05:47]
ThickAsThieves well i want credit on this one too [05:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.01682 = 0.2859 BTC [+] [05:47]
ThickAsThieves :) [05:47]
mircea_popescu link me! [05:48]
dexX7 yeah well, you said so. now proof it. [05:48]
ThickAsThieves i am the law! [05:48]
mircea_popescu lol [05:48]
Kleeck__ LOL [05:48]
Kleeck__ Classic defense. [05:48]
dexX7 i'm not calling you out, just saying :) [05:48]
Kleeck__ Yeah. [05:48]
mircea_popescu ten years from now i'll be long gone on some island somewhere, and people will try to figure out why are all bitcoiners such assholes [05:48]
mircea_popescu little will they know... [05:48]
dexX7 if there is hard proof, it would be good to know [05:48]
Kleeck__ yeah. I'd love to see proof, honestly. [05:49]
dexX7 but anyway, i didn't want to turn this into a lab discussion ;) [05:49]
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ThickAsThieves didnt you? [05:50]
mircea_popescu dude. we would love to see proof that corzine did it. [05:50]
mircea_popescu we all KNOW he did it. [05:50]
mircea_popescu and yet... [05:50]
ThickAsThieves btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM [05:50]
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mircea_popescu for that matter, enron is roughly in the same position and etc. proof is hard. [05:51]
Kleeck__ Nah. [05:51]
Kleeck__ This isn't Enron. [05:51]
Kleeck__ Or Corzine. [05:51]
Kleeck__ It's a goddamm Bitcoin startup. [05:51]
Kleeck__ And a shitty one at that. [05:51]
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mircea_popescu yes. proof even harder. [05:52]
Kleeck__ I'll give that up right away. [05:52]
mircea_popescu hi Edward_ [05:52]
Edward_ Hi. [05:52]
mircea_popescu everyone, this is the guy that bothered to look into that piece of malware on the forum. Edward_ this is everyone. [05:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [+] [05:52]
kakobrekla urlpls [05:53]
Edward_ Funny in channel not to hear assbot chatter. Hey everyone. I look at machine code. [05:53]
Kleeck__ Night all. [05:53]
Edward_ Half OCD, half job. [05:53]
mircea_popescu assbot found a girl and went away. [05:53]
ThickAsThieves btw you wanted a link to be calling labcoin a scam day 1 [05:53]
ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg2815024#msg2815024 [05:53]
ozbot [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) [05:54]
dexX7 lol [05:54]
dexX7 "reserved" [05:54]
mircea_popescu "i told you so" ?! [05:54]
dexX7 "last edit" :P [05:54]
ThickAsThieves hehe [05:54]
pankkake :D [05:54]
kakobrekla this could be edited afterhand [05:54]
ThickAsThieves :) [05:54]
ThickAsThieves it was [05:54]
kakobrekla url must start with log dot something [05:54]
mircea_popescu lol last edited sept 12 [05:54]
pankkake oh I did a reserved too [05:54]
mircea_popescu omg SCAM [05:54]
ThickAsThieves i'd have to dig up IRC logs [05:54]
Edward_ They were taking beating last time I here. [05:54]
mircea_popescu where you from Edward_ ? [05:54]
ThickAsThieves just wanted to be a dick to people that go back and read it [05:55]
Edward_ Eritrea. Now live in Dubai. [05:55]
mircea_popescu 0.0 [05:55]
mircea_popescu that's practically right next to kakobrekla's native somalia ? [05:55]
kakobrekla lmao and fu [05:55]
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mod6 ha [05:56]
mircea_popescu lol [05:56]
Edward_ close, yes. Had family there. Now dont [05:56]
mircea_popescu whoa that sounded like that hemingway short story. [05:56]
mircea_popescu "For sale: baby shoes, never worn" [05:56]
Edward_ Not read Hemingway. [05:56]
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mod6 <3 Hemingway [05:57]
mircea_popescu hemingway is good. [05:57]
Edward_ six word. whole story. yes. [05:57]
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Edward_ Is kakabrekla from Somalia? [05:58]
mod6 its a meme [05:58]
mircea_popescu well, he really is from slovenia. but he tells everyone he's from somalia [05:58]
mircea_popescu like those people who pretend to be jewish. [05:58]
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Edward_ Ah. Explains much. [05:58]
mircea_popescu lmao [05:58]
kakobrekla its same shit really... [05:58]
kakobrekla > 02:27.45 ( thestringpuller ) "My bank won't wire transfer to Slovenia (Bitstamp) says that it is a sanctioned country." [05:58]
kakobrekla no 419 for you kako [05:59]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286610.msg3146734#msg3146734 [05:59]
mircea_popescu url you asked for. [05:59]
Edward_ Mine had no problem with. But normal for Dubai, bankers no qualms about anywhere really. [05:59]
mircea_popescu Edward_ so what do you normaly speak ? arabic ? [06:00]
kakobrekla thanks [06:00]
Edward_ No. Singlish, lah? [06:00]
mircea_popescu ah [06:00]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.785 = 7.14 BTC [+] {2} [06:02]
Edward_ Is Chinese syntax on about half English half Korean vocabulary. But is ugly language. [06:02]
mircea_popescu she cow pig had kittens ? [06:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 622 @ 0.0024998 = 1.5549 BTC [+] {4} [06:03]
Edward_ Serious Labcoin price? Thought fall further. [06:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [PAJKA.BOND] 33 @ 0.018 = 0.594 BTC [+] [06:05]
Edward_ use pronouns damnit. Is assbot price of labcoin real? I thought it would fall further. Standard English? [06:05]
mircea_popescu who's to know at this point. [06:05]
mircea_popescu it is what btctc reports. [06:05]
Edward_ Why do anyone think "start an anarchy" is a good idea? [06:08]
mircea_popescu what does that mean ? [06:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 251 @ 0.0004 = 0.1004 BTC [-] {2} [06:09]
Edward_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280771.0 makes a lot of nonsense to me. [06:09]
ozbot How to actually start an anarchy? [06:09]
mircea_popescu you know the forum is mostly for comedy relief right / [06:09]
Edward_ Hard to tell sarcasm from stupidity apart. [06:10]
mircea_popescu this is what makes it so fascinating. [06:10]
pankkake " [06:11]
pankkake You don't start an anarchy. They naturally arise after revolution." [06:11]
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mircea_popescu " Does things high level compiler never ever do like use as data (including instructions!) from code segment, to make value pun elsewhere, use as number or insert in string. Horrible to trace, damned clever." << this by the way was very funny, because of the word pun is afaik never used before in that context. [06:12]
mircea_popescu Edward_ you know the story of mel ? [06:12]
Edward_ I would say after infrastructure destroyed. Is worst part of war, anarchy follows. [06:12]
Edward_ From Hacker Dictionary? [06:13]
mircea_popescu yes. [06:13]
Edward_ Yes. What word if not 'pun'? [06:13]
mircea_popescu anyway. what you think of anarchy, ie, proper anarchy, and what pasty ass white boys imagine anarchy is are very VERY different things. [06:13]
mircea_popescu when you hear white rich people talk about anarchy all they mean is, our governments have become very large, very expensive, very ineffectual and very stupid. people want to get rid of them. [06:13]
mircea_popescu no, no, pun is great. it just never occured to anyone before. [06:14]
Edward_ America Government is not ineffectual. It is so effectual it is scary. [06:14]
mircea_popescu how do you judge ? [06:14]
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pankkake anarchy ≠ anomy [06:15]
pankkake revolutions, wars have actually usually kept the existing bureaucracies and made them more powerful [06:15]
Edward_ NSA headlines lately. No other government could do what they did. Listening to whole world. [06:16]
mircea_popescu that is irrelevant for most people. ineffectual in this context means they don't do what people want them to do, not that they don't do what they themselves set out to do. [06:17]
pankkake what's the NSA's budget? [06:17]
Edward_ $billions. I don't know. [06:17]
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mircea_popescu i bet you you could do what they do on half the money :D [06:18]
Edward_ Is just example. American government does many things no other could do. Invade Syria? You know how tough Syria is? Nobody else would even think. [06:19]
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mircea_popescu they're just talking about it. [06:19]
mircea_popescu tjhey know they'll get owned. [06:19]
Edward_ I have no doubt they could flatten it. But after? No way to disengage, [06:20]
mircea_popescu well exactly. [06:20]
mircea_popescu what win is that ? another afghanistan. [06:21]
mircea_popescu spend 10 trillion to do 10 billion worth of damage. whoopdedoo. [06:21]
mircea_popescu russians send 10 more bn worth of gear, start over in 10 years. [06:21]
Edward_ America, always being police to the world. But sometimes corrupt police like in India. [06:24]
Edward_ Less about chasing crooks than shaking them down for share of profits. [06:25]
thestringpuller "thanks the cops who put greed before the badge" [06:25]
Duffer1 or knocking them down and placing their own crooks [06:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1244 = 0.4976 BTC [+] {2} [06:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [-] [06:27]
Edward_ But like Batman thing. Spend $Millions on equipment, chase crooks who mug $50 from old lady on corner. [06:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 16 @ 0.1244 = 1.9904 BTC [+] {2} [06:28]
Edward_ Then ignore other crooks do much worse when no oil involved. [06:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 280 @ 0.002591 = 0.7255 BTC [+] {2} [06:29]
Edward_ Trading is much calmer today? [06:31]
mircea_popescu thus ineffectual :) [06:31]
Edward_ Hardly. Nobody else can do so much damage so fast. [06:31]
mircea_popescu well we'll just have to agree to disagree :) [06:33]
mircea_popescu also, check pms. [06:34]
Edward_ private message on bitcointalk board? [06:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 500 @ 0.00689359 = 3.4468 BTC [+] {3} [06:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7855 = 3.571 BTC [+] {2} [06:35]
mircea_popescu no, here. [06:35]
Edward_ Sorry, new to IRC. How? [06:36]
mircea_popescu should be a tab up on the screen [06:36]
kakobrekla Edward_ the trades are merged in 1 min blocks and nothing under 0.01 comes through, hence less spam [06:40]
kakobrekla 0.1 that is [06:40]
Edward_ I see. [06:41]
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ThickAsThieves TheSeven, save us from the TheScam [06:58]
Duffer1 dexxy posted a respone from theseven today in that thread [06:58]
Duffer1 er dexx7 [06:58]
ThickAsThieves did it amount to "I wont say it's NOT a scam..."? [06:59]
Duffer1 he said he's sure it's not a scam from what he's seen, but anything's possible, he also confirmed consulting and seeing his ideas being implemented in the 65nm design [06:59]
Duffer1 i'll try to find it [06:59]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.798 = 5.394 BTC [+] {2} [07:01]
Duffer1 bitcointalk so slow for me atm [07:01]
matuszed same [07:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.809 BTC [+] [07:02]
Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3181860#msg3181860 [07:02]
ozbot [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) [07:03]
ThickAsThieves that thread is posted in way too much [07:08]
matuszed Its amazing how much can be written and so little said [07:09]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [07:09]
matuszed haha [07:09]
MilkyLep Big bubble ? :p [07:09]
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ThickAsThieves could probly end world hunger with the wasted effort in that forum [07:10]
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mircea_popescu if anyone ever ends world hunger i'll be a sad panda. [07:11]
MilkyLep internet* [07:11]
ThickAsThieves but a well-fed panda at least [07:12]
mircea_popescu yeah, right, because im totally starving right now. [07:14]
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mircea_popescu anyway, if some schmuck ends world hunger i will have a starving slave in my basement at all time. the girls can rotate fasting weekly or w/e. [07:14]
ThickAsThieves whoever heard of a skinny Santa?! [07:15]
ThickAsThieves just have Bill Gates shot that should cover your lifetime of risk [07:16]
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mircea_popescu lol [07:20]
mircea_popescu http://72.10.171.98/resources/ecommerce/images/products/966/710/img710966/product-enlarged.jpg [07:21]
mircea_popescu she's reasonably skinny. [07:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 2152 @ 0.00091356 = 1.966 BTC [+] {2} [07:25]
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mircea_popescu https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2xgOW7LUElI/UirijXfIYuI/AAAAAAAAi8A/tCGK89EOjR8/%23vuc+-+freenode+Web+IRC.png [07:27]
mircea_popescu posting this here to have for later in case noobs. [07:27]
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ThickAsThieves but where do o see pm's? [07:29]
ThickAsThieves i [07:29]
mircea_popescu same as chans [07:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.809 BTC [+] [07:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.016518 = 0.413 BTC [-] {2} [07:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LTC-ATF.B2] 105 @ 0.01098285 = 1.1532 BTC [+] {2} [07:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.80971428 = 38.004 BTC [+] {3} [07:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01652 = 0.2974 BTC [+] [07:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+] [07:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 9 @ 0.05788888 = 0.521 BTC [+] {2} [07:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 479 @ 0.00259289 = 1.242 BTC [+] {2} [07:42]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard. [12:07]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013 [12:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 122 @ 0.0177799 = 2.1691 BTC [+] {4} [12:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.944 = 3.888 BTC [+] [12:15]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 381 @ 0.0025819 = 0.9837 BTC [-] {3} [12:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 161 @ 0.002556 = 0.4115 BTC [-] [12:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.017225 = 0.1034 BTC [-] {2} [13:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2086 @ 0.00279668 = 5.8339 BTC [+] {4} [13:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 16050 @ 0.00282866 = 45.4 BTC [+] {8} [13:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 900 @ 0.00283545 = 2.5519 BTC [+] {2} [13:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 81 @ 0.002836 = 0.2297 BTC [+] [13:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 2198 @ 0.00092065 = 2.0236 BTC [+] [13:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.00288 = 0.864 BTC [+] [13:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 170 @ 0.00288 = 0.4896 BTC [+] [13:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1816 @ 0.00288575 = 5.2405 BTC [+] {3} [13:28]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1219 @ 0.00289808 = 3.5328 BTC [+] {3} [13:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3655 @ 0.00292156 = 10.6783 BTC [+] {5} [13:32]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1001 @ 0.00294997 = 2.9529 BTC [+] {2} [13:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01777 = 0.7108 BTC [+] {2} [13:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 42 @ 0.18171428 = 7.632 BTC [-] {5} [13:36]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 690 @ 0.00294886 = 2.0347 BTC [+] {2} [13:41]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 100 @ 0.00704229 = 0.7042 BTC [+] {6} [13:42]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [14:04]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard. [14:04]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013 [14:04]
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ThickAsThieves i dont even comment in there anymore [14:08]
ThickAsThieves just asking for frustration [14:08]
jurov http://www.zdnet.com/pay-heed-to-the-internets-third-wave-cows-of-disruption-7000020878/ [14:12]
ozbot Pay heed to the internet's Third Wave Cows of Disruption | ZDNet [14:12]
jurov i totally <3 this. if you argue with someone that bitcoin is useless in meatspace [14:12]
jurov send them to read this [14:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 269 @ 0.00116689 = 0.3139 BTC [-] {5} [14:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 393 @ 0.00116002 = 0.4559 BTC [-] {2} [14:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 172 @ 0.00114487 = 0.1969 BTC [-] {5} [14:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 2231 @ 0.0004482 = 0.9999 BTC [+] [14:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 600 @ 0.002804 = 1.6824 BTC [-] [14:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.002804 = 1.1216 BTC [-] [14:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1550 @ 0.00299049 = 4.6353 BTC [+] {2} [14:27]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3188684#msg3188684 [14:28]
ozbot [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. [14:28]
pankkake Diablo-D3: yeah there's this one guy who just quotes huge posts saying "I have to agree here.", very annoying :) [14:29]
pankkake inputs.io pays the fee for you when you sweep a private key [14:31]
pankkake good to know for collecting dust :) [14:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 87 @ 0.002989 = 0.26 BTC [-] [14:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.00299 = 1.196 BTC [+] [14:37]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.00299 = 0.1495 BTC [+] [14:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.0179 = 0.7339 BTC [+] [14:40]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 340 @ 0.002989 = 1.0163 BTC [-] [14:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.01790064 = 0.5549 BTC [+] {2} [14:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.72977550 BTC to 1`459`551 shares, 50 satoshi per share [15:00]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 125 @ 0.00298774 = 0.3735 BTC [+] {2} [15:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00128 = 0.128 BTC [-] [15:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 411 @ 0.00260097 = 1.069 BTC [+] {3} [15:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 2189 @ 0.00251188 = 5.4985 BTC [-] {7} [15:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.2111 = 0.4222 BTC [-] [15:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 165 @ 0.002987 = 0.4929 BTC [-] [15:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0175 = 0.2625 BTC [-] [15:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 6275 @ 0.00247649 = 15.54 BTC [-] {15} [15:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01723 = 0.2068 BTC [-] [15:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 3725 @ 0.00240821 = 8.9706 BTC [-] {5} [15:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01743 = 0.1394 BTC [+] [15:29]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [15:34]
gribble 993830.229432 [15:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 362 @ 0.00282211 = 1.0216 BTC [-] {2} [15:35]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 130 @ 0.0025 = 0.325 BTC [+] [15:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 570 @ 0.00240908 = 1.3732 BTC [-] {3} [15:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.185 = 1.11 BTC [+] {3} [15:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 153 @ 0.00128 = 0.1958 BTC [-] [15:41]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 42 @ 0.002823 = 0.1186 BTC [+] [15:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 134 @ 0.002822 = 0.3781 BTC [-] {2} [15:45]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 5000 @ 0.00231936 = 11.5968 BTC [-] {13} [15:52]
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kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290007.msg3160495#msg3160495 [16:00]
kakobrekla O_O [16:00]
ozbot Advertise on this forum - Round 96 [16:00]
dexX7 wow [16:03]
Scrat dont worry, its all going to new forum software [16:03]
Scrat larry ellison himself has been contracted to write it [16:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 591 @ 0.0029562 = 1.7471 BTC [-] {3} [16:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00128019 = 0.1792 BTC [-] {2} [16:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 458 @ 0.00295963 = 1.3555 BTC [+] {2} [16:13]
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ThickAsThieves lol at theymos endorsement in sig... [16:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 840 @ 0.002955 = 2.4822 BTC [-] [16:16]
lewicki woah 27 btc for a weeklong ad? [16:16]
ThickAsThieves thats per slot too i think [16:16]
ThickAsThieves 7x [16:16]
lewicki 2 months ago people were laughing over 8btc bets [16:16]
Scrat 7*27 [16:16]
lewicki advertising bubble? [16:16]
jurov ;;calc 7*27 [16:16]
gribble 189 [16:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.002954 = 0.2924 BTC [-] [16:17]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [16:17]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.26600, Best ask: 138.50994, Bid-ask spread: 0.24394, Last trade: 138.26600, 24 hour volume: 9077.95048415, 24 hour low: 138.01001, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 139.81938 [16:17]
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ThickAsThieves $avg [16:17]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 131.23 [16:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 61 @ 0.002954 = 0.1802 BTC [-] [16:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.81791998 = 45.448 BTC [-] {10} [16:19]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01737266 = 0.5212 BTC [-] {3} [16:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0168141 = 1.6814 BTC [-] {6} [16:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 240 @ 0.002925 = 0.702 BTC [-] [16:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.812 = 5.436 BTC [-] {3} [16:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [FIMB] 125 @ 0.010988 = 1.3735 BTC [-] {2} [16:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.812 BTC [-] [16:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 60 @ 1.81023333 = 108.614 BTC [-] {4} [16:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3381 @ 0.00279881 = 9.4628 BTC [-] {7} [16:41]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard. [16:44]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013 [16:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 560 @ 0.00280214 = 1.5692 BTC [+] {2} [16:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 8 @ 0.01781 = 0.1425 BTC [-] [16:59]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.002879 = 1.4395 BTC [+] [17:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 420 @ 0.009322 = 3.9152 BTC [-] [17:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1420 @ 0.00285 = 4.047 BTC [-] [17:22]
mircea_popescu http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/the-brics-independent-internet-in-defiance-of-the-us-centric-internet/70569/ [17:22]
mircea_popescu and in other news, [17:22]
mircea_popescu http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spying-european-parliamentarians-call-for-swift-suspension-a-922920.html [17:22]
ozbot NSA Spying: European Parliamentarians Call for SWIFT Suspension - SPIEGEL ONLINE [17:23]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.881 BTC [+] [17:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2875 @ 0.00278246 = 7.9996 BTC [-] {4} [17:32]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.8105 = 3.621 BTC [-] {2} [17:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 562 @ 0.00044828 = 0.2519 BTC [+] {2} [17:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 450 @ 0.00044829 = 0.2017 BTC [+] [17:38]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:38]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.11001, Best ask: 138.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.38997, Last trade: 138.11000, 24 hour volume: 8505.19998371, 24 hour low: 138.01001, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 139.70247 [17:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM1] 2 @ 1.9 = 3.8 BTC [+] [17:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 6970 @ 0.00275625 = 19.2111 BTC [-] {5} [17:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 180 @ 0.002752 = 0.4954 BTC [-] [17:45]
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pankkake ;;premium mtgox bitstamp [17:57]
gribble mtgox premium over bitstamp is currently 9.6171344983 %. [17:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00128 = 0.256 BTC [-] [18:05]
Scrat lol Diablo-D3 [18:05]
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mircea_popescu pankkake no actually, inaba put like 500 btc on the original bfl delivery bet. [18:14]
mircea_popescu then got all butthurt when he couldn't have it back. [18:14]
pankkake cool [18:14]
pankkake http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=37041 [18:14]
ozbot cryptogon.com » Torvalds On Being Asked to Insert a U.S. Government Back Door Into Linux Kernel [18:14]
mircea_popescu this better be with bird flips in it [18:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 12516 @ 0.00263352 = 32.9611 BTC [-] {18} [18:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 920 @ 0.00259804 = 2.3902 BTC [-] {2} [18:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 537 @ 0.002597 = 1.3946 BTC [-] [18:17]
mircea_popescu wait, benkay doesn;'t have trilema subscription ?! when did that occur. [18:17]
mircea_popescu this log is trippy. [18:17]
KRS1 When the complimentary trilema subscriptions expired. [18:17]
mircea_popescu they don't expire and what complimentary [18:18]
mircea_popescu what is this, sweden ?! [18:18]
KRS1 lol [18:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps 'complimentary' means TOR [18:19]
pankkake hehe I was going to say that :p [18:19]
mircea_popescu isn't that comprodisentery ? [18:19]
pankkake I had to set the cookie again today though - not sure why [18:19]
mircea_popescu jesus what a punfest. copromisery. etc. [18:19]
mircea_popescu pankkake i vaguely recall they having an expiration date to protect people from the random "i visited my ex wife in missisiauga and loaded my cookie in the library computer. so now 57969543489 ppl use it" [18:20]
pankkake why isn't subscribing etc. automated anyway? [18:22]
mircea_popescu basically because i'm lazy. [18:24]
pankkake well, you're likely missing a lot of subscribers - for me it was actually easier to use other IPs [18:26]
pankkake so even if I wanted to pay, the lazy route was to cheat [18:27]
pankkake hmm actually there might be an even better way to cheat :p [18:28]
mircea_popescu i don't care, the ips you use to cheat can't be used by others to cheat. [18:28]
mircea_popescu moreover, considering what it icosts, if cheating is time effective then i guess you weren't in the target anyway. [18:28]
pankkake cheating is basically using ssh + lynx. I have ~10 IPs at hand at least [18:29]
mircea_popescu how much do they cost ? [18:29]
pankkake it's sunk cost - they all have their uses [18:29]
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mircea_popescu yeah well, 10 ips + 15 minutes of computer engineer time to set it all up, 100 dollars. [18:30]
pankkake (or I'm not paying, just happen to have ssh access) [18:30]
mircea_popescu could have had like 100k credits for the that. [18:30]
mircea_popescu yes, but that doesn't make it free. [18:30]
mircea_popescu just because i have an apple in front of my window doesn't make the apple i eat off that tree not worth 1/4 euro or w/e thery sell for. [18:31]
pankkake but I didn't set them up for it; I simply have them for other uses [18:31]
mircea_popescu sooo ? [18:31]
pankkake so whether I cheat or not, I do not pay more [18:32]
mircea_popescu not nominally. [18:32]
pankkake actually paying was a burden for me: I had to talk to you! and I dislike asking people stuff [18:32]
mircea_popescu so your impending desocialisation suffered a setback :D [18:32]
pankkake yeah [18:33]
pankkake I order everything through machines, except food [18:33]
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jurov pankkake what? you had to telephone mirce or such? *gasp* [18:34]
pankkake but again with the lazyness: I usually use paypal even whene there is a CC option, because I don't want to fetch my credit card [18:34]
pankkake jurov: no, just ask on IRC [18:34]
mircea_popescu i use paypal exclusively because i know better than to share cc details over electronic systems. [18:34]
mircea_popescu my cards were never used except in the atms. [18:35]
pankkake actually I'm probably more shy on IRC with the "asking stuff" part [18:35]
mircea_popescu what asking anyway. you're paying. [18:35]
pankkake I never share CC with a random website, but with stores it's usually through a payment processor operated by a bank [18:36]
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mircea_popescu anyway, i'm not of the coercive school of ip rights management. as far as i'm concerned there should be some fundamentally sound, lightweight drm in place. if you have the werewithal to circumvent that and find this is something you wish to do, hey. you're an independent agent with a mind of your own. [18:36]
pankkake I had to ask what I had to do to subscribe, because your blog does not even state it clearly [18:37]
pankkake oh I agree, it's doomed to fail in any case [18:37]
pankkake I paid because I wanted to [18:37]
mircea_popescu so then. [18:37]
pankkake but it took tremendous effort! [18:38]
mircea_popescu it works both ways, too. people who'd otherwise be too shy to approach me because of all my ranting feel encouraged when they want to buy something. [18:38]
mircea_popescu then they discover i don't bite heads off and well... goes from there. [18:38]
pankkake possibly [18:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 4 @ 0.18999 = 0.76 BTC [+] [18:41]
mircea_popescu pankkake what tremendous effort anyway ? type /query mir/t ? [18:44]
pankkake yes [18:44]
mircea_popescu you know too much isolation is unhealthy. [18:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 8365 @ 0.00092846 = 7.7666 BTC [+] {2} [18:46]
VanCleef damn what a retard buying s.mpoe shares [18:47]
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mircea_popescu oldest company in bitcoin dood. [18:48]
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VanCleef true, got any osbourne computer stock? [18:51]
mircea_popescu nah [18:52]
VanCleef i'm feeling riskay [18:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 632 @ 0.002552 = 1.6129 BTC [-] {2} [18:52]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard. [22:23]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013 [22:23]
nubbins` few things like it, anyway [22:25]
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mircea_popescu benkay it's kinda funny for me to read you and bingobongo guy going at each other cause i know neither's an idiot [22:25]
nubbins` i'm very partial to those charcoal shirts [22:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 1424 @ 0.00226917 = 3.2313 BTC [-] {4} [22:26]
nubbins` it's a lot less easy to procrastinate when it's quiet in here [22:29]
mircea_popescu how so ? [22:29]
ThickAsThieves Coinvoice: Invoice in USD, receive BTC [22:29]
ThickAsThieves ^ worst name ever [22:29]
nubbins` well, no conversation makes me feel like i should be doing work [22:30]
nubbins` coinvoice, lel [22:30]
ThickAsThieves the coins speak to me [22:30]
nubbins` every time there's a new btc thing with "coin" in the name, a part of me dies [22:30]
nubbins` HOW CLEVER [22:30]
nubbins` IT SEZ COIN [22:30]
ThickAsThieves i dont mind it in all cases [22:32]
ThickAsThieves but many, yeah [22:32]
mircea_popescu it should have been bitboince. [22:32]
mircea_popescu because b/v are ambiguous in like 1400. and so it'd be very clever yes? [22:32]
ThickAsThieves shoulda been fuckyoupayme [22:32]
nubbins` boincevoice [22:32]
mircea_popescu let's make dumb names. [22:32]
mircea_popescu InceptionBit. The last billing service you'll ever use. [22:33]
nubbins` binvoice [22:33]
ThickAsThieves Recepticoin [22:33]
nubbins` because something [22:33]
Duffer1 blockunchained [22:33]
nubbins` lel [22:33]
mircea_popescu CoinSerious. Wallet service. [22:33]
nubbins` unchained blockody [22:33]
ThickAsThieves iputcoinsinyourcoins.bro [22:34]
nubbins` coinucopia [22:34]
nubbins` faucet [22:34]
mircea_popescu o no wait. coinesour. buy aussie wine with btc. [22:34]
nubbins` ooh, i like [22:34]
ThickAsThieves countcoinula [22:34]
nubbins` convict - bail bonds for btc [22:34]
nubbins` coinvict, i mean [22:34]
Duffer1 ha [22:34]
mircea_popescu seeing how connoisseur isn't spelled that way, you should. [22:34]
mircea_popescu ahahaha convict rules. [22:34]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves bitsincoins. maybe a food delivery ? [22:35]
nubbins` kibbles & bits, animal food for btc [22:35]
ThickAsThieves we'll come up with better business ideas making up names than the people coming up with names making up businesses [22:35]
mircea_popescu actually someone should make a comic staring LeCoin, the moustachy evil guy, [22:36]
mircea_popescu hahaha damn straight. [22:36]
ThickAsThieves pepelecoin [22:36]
nubbins` "sometimes, you gotta TAKE the wallets" [22:36]
mircea_popescu NIOC - mirros delivered anywhere! [22:36]
nubbins` IHOC - international house of coins [22:37]
mircea_popescu CoinCon, the investment fund & more. [22:37]
ThickAsThieves coinhole [22:37]
nubbins` coinca-cola [22:37]
mircea_popescu o totally. [22:37]
nubbins` lel [22:37]
ThickAsThieves hehe [22:37]
nubbins` coin on the cob [22:37]
mircea_popescu coinhole. selling corn on the cobb in 27 state fairs. [22:37]
nubbins` coinography [22:38]
ThickAsThieves or a pub name [22:38]
nubbins` yeah [22:38]
nubbins` i'd drink at the coinhole [22:38]
ThickAsThieves coininthewall [22:38]
mircea_popescu rabbit. quick downloads for btc. [22:38]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it should be coinvct not convict [22:38]
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nubbins` nubbins`: convict - bail bonds for btc [22:39]
nubbins` nubbins`: coinvict, i mean [22:39]
mircea_popescu i read it that way originally but then on reread... SCANDAL! [22:39]
ThickAsThieves cointest [22:39]
nubbins` autocorrect [22:39]
nubbins` cointest! [22:39]
ThickAsThieves americasnexttopcoin [22:39]
mircea_popescu autocoinrect. touchtype software. [22:39]
mircea_popescu o that's good. [22:39]
mircea_popescu realgoodvirtualcoin [22:39]
ThickAsThieves necromonicoin [22:39]
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nubbins` ! [22:40]
nubbins` coindescending [22:40]
kakobrekla i am the great coinholio. [22:40]
nubbins` book tables at snooty restaurants [22:40]
mircea_popescu lol [22:40]
ThickAsThieves we're using up all the names, the VC's are fucked [22:40]
mircea_popescu coinborn. cribs & baby shoes. [22:41]
nubbins` all mine are available for licensing [22:41]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves hence my evil plan *cackle* [22:41]
ThickAsThieves cointroduction [22:41]
ThickAsThieves dating site [22:41]
nubbins` coinderwater [22:41]
mircea_popescu coincum, your pet's best chum. [22:41]
nubbins` coinworker, put rent-a-coder out of business [22:41]
mircea_popescu nubbins` that's an actual service. [22:42]
nubbins` lel, i was just gonna say [22:42]
ThickAsThieves coinsipid [22:42]
mircea_popescu goiterbit. food supplements and special neckwear. [22:42]
nubbins` HAH [22:42]
nubbins` idodized salt & turtlenecks [22:42]
ThickAsThieves mannyscoinsandautoparts [22:42]
nubbins` only items for sale [22:42]
mircea_popescu "you bit it, you buy it". [22:43]
mircea_popescu funeral services. [22:43]
nubbins` coinjoined twins -- baby clothes for children with too many bodies [22:43]
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mircea_popescu cause what, they are deflationary ? [22:44]
ThickAsThieves coingroin hw wallet fannypacks [22:44]
mircea_popescu coinwall, aluminum siding firm in cornwall, england. [22:44]
mircea_popescu and also, maybe turkland renames istanbul back into coinstantinople-bit ? [22:45]
pankkake kakobrekla: hating on macs and a beavis and butthead reference? if you were a girl I'd give you coinilingus [22:45]
ThickAsThieves coinstantcontact [22:45]
kakobrekla lol [22:46]
kakobrekla i might sound like tits but it really is dick. [22:46]
ThickAsThieves coinversation next social media [22:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 4 @ 0.18999 = 0.76 BTC [+] [22:46]
mircea_popescu buzzword-keyword-coin [22:46]
mircea_popescu social media & escort services. [22:47]
pankkake hashcoin? [22:47]
mircea_popescu blotterbit. buy your lsd for cheap! [22:47]
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nubbins` hash hash - dual purpose miner / vaporizer [22:48]
ThickAsThieves bitbybit dentures [22:48]
mircea_popescu ha! [22:48]
pankkake both potheads and miners have high electric consuption. makes sense to combine [22:48]
mircea_popescu Triple Coin. All-bitcoin horse racing. [22:48]
pankkake coinsumption [22:48]
pankkake coinception [22:48]
mircea_popescu coink. pig farm in oregon. [22:49]
ThickAsThieves bitness protection program [22:49]
mircea_popescu lol [22:49]
mircea_popescu that'd be a good wallet. [22:49]
mircea_popescu dude we gotta stop, we created more value than the ipo market in the past six months. [22:49]
nubbins` if we keep going, people are going to start trying to exchange XBOND for it [22:50]
ThickAsThieves i think my fave so far was necromonicoin, someone make that an altcoin plz [22:50]
ThickAsThieves lol [22:50]
mircea_popescu im personally holding out for niggercoin [22:50]
nubbins` necronomicoin, blockchain-based pandemic tracking [22:51]
mircea_popescu the alt to end all racism. [22:51]
pankkake haven't seen any vampire/goth/etc. related altcoin actually. sad [22:51]
nubbins` yeah [22:51]
nubbins` super sad [22:51]
mircea_popescu pankkake well we're too mainstream for goth [22:51]
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ThickAsThieves have an emocoin [22:51]
ThickAsThieves youll feel better [22:51]
mircea_popescu bitemo! [22:51]
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ThickAsThieves emoticoin! [22:51]
nubbins` emoticoin [22:51]
nubbins` ooh [22:51]
nubbins` you beat me to it [22:51]
nubbins` hashtronomical - telescopes and sky charts for btc [22:52]
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nubbins` brb fresh air break [22:52]
pankkake by the way I have an idea for an altcoin but I am too lazy to figure out how to create it (there is nothing to gain, it would be designed as unpreminable because of its stupid design) [22:52]
ThickAsThieves bitinstant coffee [22:52]
pankkake the name is great too [22:52]
pankkake maybe I'll wait for april 1st [22:52]
ThickAsThieves bitstamp stamps [22:53]
thestringpuller bitstamp stamps would turn into a ponzi [22:53]
ThickAsThieves coindesk desks [22:53]
thestringpuller Charles Ponzi would come back from the dead and pretend to send them. [22:53]
mircea_popescu so i bought walnuts. huge things cause fresh. i crack one, worm in it says HI! crack another, some sort of weird moth thing. [22:53]
pankkake bittramp stamps [22:53]
mircea_popescu im looking at the 3rd and thinking... chicken ? [22:53]
nubbins` you really need awkward names [22:54]
nubbins` like coinffee [22:54]
pankkake lol, the worst I had was just walnuts full of dirt [22:54]
pankkake ah well, romanian food [22:54]
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pankkake you'll find a horse, not chicken, in the next walnut [22:54]
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nubbins` http://articles.latimes.com/1994-08-12/news/mn-26407_1_condom-inside [22:54]
ozbot Canadian Woman Finds Condom in Walnut - Los Angeles Times [22:55]
mircea_popescu a horse does not fit in a nut therefore your argument is coinvalid. [22:55]
nubbins` coinvalid sounds ultra-valid [22:55]
nubbins` hm [22:55]
ThickAsThieves or very ill [22:55]
nubbins` coinvalid: home care services [22:55]
pankkake coinvestment [22:55]
pankkake romanian guy finds coindom in walnut [22:56]
mircea_popescu coinmorbidity. [22:56]
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nubbins` my coindom for a horse [22:56]
pankkake :D [22:56]
mircea_popescu i am a coindom! you kidding me ? [22:56]
mircea_popescu all my slavebits! [22:56]
pankkake do they have big bits? [22:56]
mircea_popescu as far as possible. [22:56]
pankkake with big ripples? [22:56]
pankkake sensitive ripples [22:56]
mircea_popescu lol [22:56]
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nubbins` lel [22:57]
mircea_popescu actually big tits do have a ripple. [22:57]
nubbins` my ripples are rock-hard [22:57]
ThickAsThieves knitbit textiles [22:57]
mircea_popescu have the girl on her back and slap the tit [22:57]
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pankkake coinbred [22:58]
nubbins` coinbread [22:59]
ThickAsThieves coinbit /thread [22:59]
mircea_popescu coinbred is like, pastry or conception support ? [22:59]
pankkake coin + inbred [22:59]
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nubbins` the chickoin shack [22:59]
ThickAsThieves drillbit [23:00]
nubbins` icedrill [23:00]
nubbins` ;p [23:00]
mod6 bitcramp - providing maxi pads for BTC [23:00]
ThickAsThieves saybitaintso - scam reports [23:00]
nubbins` ok, ovens are heated up, gotta print a dozen shirts [23:00]
nubbins` SOMEBODY TIME ME [23:00]
mircea_popescu ;;echo go for it pizza boy! [23:01]
gribble go for it pizza boy! [23:01]
ThickAsThieves bitsnotatumor [23:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 6 @ 0.017 = 0.102 BTC [-] [23:01]
pankkake here's a bittramp stamp: https://lh3.ggpht.com/-NKixDgBe9dI/ThvMeY-Qo6I/AAAAAAAAAt4/kx985Qd3UZI/s640/bitcoin-tattoo-2.jpg [23:01]
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ThickAsThieves bittitude [23:02]
ThickAsThieves bitlip - body jewelry [23:03]
pankkake bitanic [23:03]
ThickAsThieves gay dating site? [23:03]
ThickAsThieves bisexual* [23:03]
mircea_popescu is that a really badly done tattoo or am i just unexpert ? [23:03]
deizel bitcoinsexchange.com (later a hyphen is added to clear things up, bitcoins-exchange.com) [23:03]
pankkake oh. bite in French means cock so… :) [23:03]
ThickAsThieves its a areally bad everything [23:03]
ThickAsThieves ick [23:04]
mircea_popescu deizel ok that ones pretty good. [23:04]
ThickAsThieves lol [23:04]
pankkake mircea_popescu: seems bad [23:04]
ThickAsThieves bitthedust - cremation service [23:04]
benkay mircea_popescu: bingoboingo and i were doing performance co-trolling last night [23:04]
pankkake must be hard not to move when tatooed there though [23:05]
mircea_popescu benkay a that's what it iwas. [23:05]
mircea_popescu pankkake why ? pubic shield dones't hurt much. [23:05]
ThickAsThieves bitthehandthatfeedsyou - welfare dist [23:05]
pankkake it's kind of ticklish [23:05]
ThickAsThieves bitslikeaglove - condoms [23:06]
ThickAsThieves I CNAT STOP [23:06]
mircea_popescu coinstop. [23:07]
pankkake bitplug [23:07]
mircea_popescu they totally gotta put those usb sticks in dildos already [23:07]
pankkake they would burn you [23:07]
benkay we could breed bitbulls [23:07]
ThickAsThieves bittheroadjack - divorce attorney [23:07]
benkay pankkake: dat fine line between pain and pleasure :) [23:08]
mircea_popescu pankkake they get that hot ? i doubt it. have you SEEN how hot girls get down there man ?! [23:08]
pankkake the usb sticks really burn my fingers [23:08]
ThickAsThieves dontbitwhereyoueat - litter boxes [23:09]
mircea_popescu hm [23:09]
mircea_popescu after brain damage from gpu waste heat, vaginal burns from usb asic miner dildo would defo put us on the map. [23:09]
pankkake recycle bit [23:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: glue a Stirling engine to the asic, convert heat to vibration... [23:10]
mircea_popescu bint lol. [23:10]
ThickAsThieves thatbitsthespot - vibrators [23:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform bitachi! [23:10]
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ThickAsThieves fruitofmycoins [23:12]
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pankkake or simply: bitch [23:13]
ThickAsThieves naughtybits [23:13]
mircea_popescu if anyone wonders how a stirling engine looks : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/BetaStirlingTG4web.svg [23:14]
mircea_popescu seems perfectly adequate for the application. [23:14]
ThickAsThieves flatliners! http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-brain-activity-death-20130918,0,4315042.story [23:16]
pankkake the phallic resemblance can't be a coincidence [23:17]
asciilifeform who can forget, http://gizmodo.com/5466997/the-steam+powered-vibrator-and-other-terrifying-early-sex-machines-nsfw [23:18]
ThickAsThieves lol microsoft really is taking Elop? [23:18]
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pankkake really? [23:18]
pankkake then my question would be… but who is going to buy microsoft? [23:18]
kakobrekla lesbians [23:19]
pankkake why lesbits? [23:19]
kakobrekla cause they dont like it big and hard [23:19]
ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/19/4748738/nokias-stephen-elop-to-make-more-than-25-million-for-jumping-to-microsoft [23:19]
ozbot Nokia's Stephen Elop to make more than $25 million for jumping to Microsoft | The Verge [23:19]
pankkake ooh [23:19]
ThickAsThieves nic arb [23:20]
ThickAsThieves nice* [23:20]
Scrat ThickAsThieves: rofl you couldn't make this up [23:20]
Scrat so funny [23:20]
ThickAsThieves "He'll be leading up Microsoft's expanded devices division when the acquisition is complete, but given that there's a recently vacated CEO position at Redmond there's the possibility of even greater rewards in Elop's future." [23:21]
pankkake the guy gets millions for ruining companies [23:21]
pankkake how can this exist [23:21]
pankkake nokia shareholders must be mad as hell [23:21]
ThickAsThieves he probly has nudes of god [23:21]
jcpham gotta parachute those execs man [23:21]
jcpham 'cause they've worked for it [23:22]
ThickAsThieves he has the password to Nokia [23:22]
ThickAsThieves and wouldnt share it [23:23]
jcpham wut [23:23]
ThickAsThieves hehe [23:23]
mircea_popescu ruining some companies is a public service [23:23]
mircea_popescu like microsoft. [23:23]
ThickAsThieves thats one way to look at it [23:23]
jcpham i don't understand any of these tech companies anymore except google [23:23]
ThickAsThieves but couldnt they ruin it faster? [23:23]
jcpham and google just wants to do crazy shit [23:24]
ThickAsThieves google wants to do ALL shit [23:24]
mircea_popescu i was glad yahoo got that chick what's her face, i was sad microsoft is replacing balmer, but if it's elop... [23:24]
ThickAsThieves their walls are made of noodles [23:24]
jcpham i guess if you aren't being like a technical innovator at life [23:24]
jcpham and solving life problems [23:24]
jcpham you're old hat [23:24]
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ThickAsThieves yeah Yahoo getting Marissa was good [23:24]
jcpham microsoft needs to solve a need to become relevant again [23:24]
jcpham same for yahoo [23:25]
pankkake i'll miss chair-throwing monkey boy [23:25]
ThickAsThieves yahoo is probly mopping up internally first [23:25]
mircea_popescu jcpham yahoo has pretty much all the world's yahoos [23:25]
ThickAsThieves maybe next year we'll see bigger moves [23:25]
jcpham hahaha [23:25]
mircea_popescu i still fidn this hard to believe, but > 90% of rtomanians have yahoo email. [23:25]
mircea_popescu my server just drops mail with "yahoo" in headers. [23:25]
mircea_popescu this includes my mother's only email address, and pretty much any romanian company out there. [23:26]
pankkake and the French have hotmail - thankfully a thing of the past but… [23:26]
kakobrekla lol [23:26]
jcpham yeah my wife has a yahoo email address [23:26]
mircea_popescu texas-local-television@yahoo.com happens here. [23:26]
mircea_popescu jcpham kill her. [23:26]
jcpham and surprising i know lots of peeps with them still [23:26]
jcpham i have one too but haven't logged in in years [23:26]
ThickAsThieves does aol still have email? [23:26]
jcpham it must be the webmail niche still [23:26]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yup [23:27]
jcpham because yahoo was one of the first to offer that [23:27]
ThickAsThieves seems like that should be a collectible [23:27]
ThickAsThieves aol email addies [23:27]
mircea_popescu i think it is [23:27]
jcpham then they got into competetion with storage space and stuff if you remember [23:27]
mircea_popescu oldscjhool by now. weirdo retired uni profs have them [23:27]
jcpham who's webmail had the most free shit [23:27]
jcpham yahoo was on top of that race until gmail [23:27]
ThickAsThieves hotmail/outlook web mail looks pretty nice now [23:28]
ThickAsThieves i still wont use it tho [23:28]
asciilifeform AOL lives, still. there even remain rural pestholes in the U.S. where they're the only game in town. [23:28]
jcpham that's crazy [23:28]
asciilifeform (well, that and iridium sat) [23:28]
jcpham i bet dialup too [23:28]
ThickAsThieves $email [23:28]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: To sign up for this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC. [23:28]
mircea_popescu how to know you're not really in the us [23:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.857 = 3.714 BTC [-] {2} [23:29]
kakobrekla mpexbot works for nsa btw [23:29]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla omfg stop spreading fudlies [23:29]
pankkake http://youtu.be/e8M6S8EKbnU?t=1m9s amazing company! [23:29]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [23:29]
ozbot The best of Steve Ballmer - YouTube [23:29]
mircea_popescu assbot should ocasionally say "amazing company your mom is" [23:30]
ThickAsThieves god that video is horrible [23:30]
kakobrekla 4x6 px [23:30]
pankkake while True: developers [23:32]
ThickAsThieves Is Bitcoin the Beginning or the End of Banking as we know it? ~reddit [23:33]
ThickAsThieves Yes! [23:33]
pankkake let's ask the same question every day ~reddit [23:33]
Rulother cats ~reddit [23:34]
jcpham i like the fact that I can buy a 6500k off the grid solar tie in kit for 48 bitcoins [23:34]
jcpham i'm waiting on the price to drop to a few btc before i jump into solar [23:34]
kakobrekla solar is out [23:35]
jcpham no one sells mr fusion [23:35]
jcpham pre-order only :( [23:35]
jurov lmao these names [23:35]
jurov i literall just today registered livestocks.me [23:36]
jurov it *will* be used ;) [23:36]
ThickAsThieves am both totally and totally not interested in this article http://www.riabiz.com/a/24063560/how-the-winklevoss-twins-presence-at-a-big-nyc-hedgie-event-cut-the-torpor-and-distracted-from-the-poor-job-most-hedge-funds-are-doing-for-clients [23:36]
ThickAsThieves i assume it sucks [23:36]
mircea_popescu you know, not a single fuckable chick i ever talked to had a reddit. [23:36]
pankkake you're ambitvalent? [23:36]
mircea_popescu nope. [23:37]
ThickAsThieves jurov, but it has no coinbits in the name? [23:37]
pankkake it was for TAT [23:37]
ThickAsThieves how will you get VCs? [23:37]
jurov no, but it has sheep [23:37]
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pankkake oh, it's not a sex slave market? [23:37]
jurov ain't need no filthy VCs [23:38]
ThickAsThieves i'm probly late to this realization, but yesterday it occurred to me that the Bitcoin Foundation is worse than just being a bunch of cointreprenuers [23:38]
ThickAsThieves it's a shell org to act as catchall for for VC opportunities [23:39]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: worse [23:39]
ThickAsThieves by offering grants [23:39]
mircea_popescu tomorrow you'll wake up to further realisations, [23:39]
mircea_popescu and then i'll be an asshole and link you to 2012 and well... [23:39]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: it publicly joined a traitorous 'NSA club' [23:39]
jcpham lol'd at trace meyer endorsements [23:40]
ThickAsThieves if there's one thing we can count on mp, it's that tomorrow when we wake up you'll still be an asshole [23:40]
jurov it's grup of kids cooperating to avoid doing their homework as mircea nicely put it [23:40]
ThickAsThieves :) [23:40]
jcpham mr. how to disappear wants to be on the board [23:40]
Rulother lol [23:40]
jcpham seems hypocritical [23:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it was made by well known vc circuit fraudster vesseness. it collected "donations". it used said donations to prop ycombinator-driven "businesses", that incidentally never got anywhere. what did you expect it to do next ? [23:40]
mircea_popescu try and recycle more average-stupid-american into "relevancy", package it and sell it. [23:41]
nubbins` hi [23:41]
mircea_popescu support bfl scammers while that was good, pretend it never did afterwards, the way shit works. [23:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: so where's the authoritative 'clean' bitcoind fork? [23:41]
mircea_popescu i am not at liberty to discuss. [23:41]
ThickAsThieves the Trace guy like pre-announced his Armory investment via board debates [23:41]
ThickAsThieves was very slimey [23:41]
ThickAsThieves Armory having received BitFoundation grant money [23:42]
ThickAsThieves Trace running for board [23:42]
ThickAsThieves birds, feathers [23:42]
jcpham all coincidental [23:42]
mircea_popescu coincidental indeed. [23:42]
ThickAsThieves so of course i must join board next [23:43]
dub joerg wants to be hardcore [23:43]
ThickAsThieves front run teh IPOz! [23:43]
jcpham so if you want to be on the board you need to be a talking head [23:43]
jcpham and make "someone has a gun to your head" youtube videoa [23:43]
ThickAsThieves memories: [23:43]
jcpham all that stuff [23:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: seems like bitcoind users are 'setting themselves up the bomb' by running the foundation's crap - sooner they quit, the better [23:44]
ThickAsThieves http://imgur.com/1GJRHGd [23:44]
mircea_popescu jcpham yes. as long as you speak american, in order to be anything anywhere within the structure you have to be a talking head. that's the thing. thats why obama's not black, even if he is a nigger. [23:44]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [23:44]
jcpham i get the talking head thing [23:44]
jcpham i used to make fun of them but i get it now [23:44]
mircea_popescu what happened to you, got married ? [23:45]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform it makes relatively little difference what the dust bitcoiners are running. [23:45]
jcpham witnessed enough idiocy in action that leads to further opportunities [23:45]
jcpham yes [23:45]
mircea_popescu in a sense it's good that they follow the crud, self limiting disease on both ends. [23:46]
jcpham it's really not even important if you know what you are talking about [23:46]
jcpham and it doesn't even need to be true [23:46]
jcpham you just need enough media and TV to expose you [23:46]
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mircea_popescu "need". [23:46]
jcpham horse-head SCRYPT.ASIC bitfunder IPO youtube video [23:48]
jcpham gogogog [23:48]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure btc is ready to lose the chump money collector that is the 'dust' users? [23:48]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform it won't be btc. the beauty is that we're perfectly severable. i just sit here and wait, and the scammers build themselves up. when their building becomes unsustainable for them, i cut their rope and they choke. [23:49]
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mircea_popescu so, dust collectors follow the qt. at some point the qt is used to deliver some value away from the users. i say so, and point to bf. end of story. [23:49]
mircea_popescu this is why bitcoin destroys the welfare system : because it is a strictly bound system. [23:50]
dub one thing is certain [23:50]
mircea_popescu welfare needs eternally expanding system. [23:50]
dub lizzy ploshay is a CIA plant [23:50]
mircea_popescu but as long as i have the total energy and it's fixed, you can't run fake perpetuum mobiles. [23:50]
asciilifeform if the chumps decamp en masse, btc might end up as a Hawala for a dozen people. [23:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 21770 @ 0.00093426 = 20.3388 BTC [+] {4} [23:50]
mircea_popescu they don't decamp btc. they decamp obama, go vote rumsfeld or w/e [23:50]
mircea_popescu as IF. [23:50]
asciilifeform i can't help but suspect that bitcoind-as-we-know-it is only a Schelling point b/c virtually no one understands the code [23:51]
mircea_popescu this would be a step this way from what i recall your last position, which was that it isn't. [23:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i still think that in the abstract it isn't, given that there's nothing magic about the code (quite a few people, myself included, have understood it) [23:53]
mircea_popescu it's a schelling point exactly because it introduces hard binds on the system of everyrthing. [23:53]
asciilifeform a great many interesting things could be done (bring back the turing-complete 'script' engine, for one) [23:53]
mircea_popescu these can then be used to make the spinning lying circus the us brought us impracticable. [23:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 43 @ 0.002637 = 0.1134 BTC [+] [23:53]
mircea_popescu much like the reason it never arose earlier, say in england. [23:53]
mircea_popescu in fact, the french revolution TRIED. hard. it failed, and it failed because the hard bounds of that system sunk them. [23:54]
mircea_popescu ie, gold. [23:54]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you underestimate the tenacity of the circus clowns; they'll continue with Zimbabwean fiat if they have to [23:54]
mircea_popescu tenacity is irrelevant. [23:54]
mircea_popescu nobody was mroe tenacious than la grande armee [23:54]
mircea_popescu but in the end, if you don't have it you don't have it and that's the end of the story. [23:55]
asciilifeform so where's the kutuzov for the anglo bonaparte? [23:55]
mircea_popescu you'll find out when they invade russia. [23:55]
mircea_popescu you didn't know who kutuzov was before the event. [23:56]
mircea_popescu anyway, the notion that lies enact reality are no different from the earlier socialistoid propositions that work enacts currency, as brought by hitler in the 30s and by the various revolutionaires right before the empire. [23:57]
mircea_popescu they're both false, in the sense of that quote, that useful work is limited but useless work infinite. [23:57]
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ThickAsThieves The next asicminer! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297334.msg1521109;topicseen#new [23:58]
asciilifeform the fuhrer's playground didn't exactly go broke and keel over on its own accord. [23:59]
pankkake The HotAir Mining Company [23:59]
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