Forum logs for 18 Sep 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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Rulother http://www.explosm.net/comics/3104/ [00:23]
ozbot Cyanide & Happiness #3104 - Explosm.net [00:23]
Namworld Well my cards are still suspended... I have to fucking go in person to the tellers to do anything. [00:25]
Namworld Definitly not using e-Interac ever again. [00:25]
Namworld On a side note, another cash transaction just completed. Smooth as ever. [00:25]
mircea_popescu why sell FI stocks, reason #5467554698 : they comply with government regulation. [00:27]
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Namworld What's FI? [00:32]
Rulother Fucking Intense.... no idea [00:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 2 @ 0.17945 = 0.3589 BTC [+] {2} [00:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.042 = 4.084 BTC [-] [00:33]
mircea_popescu financial institution [00:33]
Namworld yeah [00:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [PETA-MINE] 6 @ 0.655 = 3.93 BTC [+] [00:34]
Namworld I don't get the logic behind: "You received some suspicious transactions. Obviously we'll let you keep doing transactions. Just not with your cards." [00:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [+] [00:36]
Namworld What difference does it make? [00:36]
mircea_popescu basically they're begging to die the dearth of irrelevance [00:36]
mircea_popescu "if you don't do so and so we won't play with you" [00:37]
mircea_popescu experience shows kids with that sort of mental issues end up in a corner. [00:37]
Namworld There's no suspicion of my cards being misused, there's suspicion on an incoming transaction which I confirmed I expected. [00:37]
Namworld Yeah. I still push accepting Bitcoins on businesses who don't [00:38]
Namworld 1% fee for using BitPay or Coinbase with daily wires to your bank account. 1%, instant, not reversible. [00:38]
Namworld They like cards tho. [00:39]
mircea_popescu i don't push it. let them come begging for it in their own time [00:39]
mircea_popescu and then whine as to why it's 300 bitcoins worth 10k usd each by then [00:39]
Namworld Well I don't push it, more like casually pass the remark it would be quicker and safer to accept Bitcoin. [00:40]
mircea_popescu there's no such thing as push-helping people. [00:40]
mircea_popescu the only people that can be helped by others are on their knees. [00:40]
mircea_popescu if not physically necessarily, then in a certaion metaphorical sense. [00:40]
mircea_popescu a that's different yeah. [00:40]
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Namworld But no one listens. Probably won't until everyone start asking for it. [00:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 15 @ 0.001248 = 0.0187 BTC [+] [00:43]
mircea_popescu you know how it is, trends chance upon capitulation. [00:44]
mircea_popescu change* [00:44]
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kakobrekla oh he will? [00:47]
kakobrekla didnt know. [00:47]
mircea_popescu prolly [00:50]
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mircea_popescu should i start a bet ? :D [00:50]
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benkay who will what now? [00:55]
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benkay ;;seen burnside [01:01]
gribble burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: lol [01:01]
thestringpuller ;;seen mircea_popescu [01:01]
gribble mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 minutes and 24 seconds ago: should i start a bet ? :D [01:01]
thestringpuller you should start a bet [01:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3500 @ 0.0012 = 4.2 BTC [+] [08:04]
mircea_popescu ;;diff [08:05]
gribble 112628548.66635 [08:05]
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mircea_popescu ;;diffchange [08:14]
gribble Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 16.8624 % based on data since last change | 19.86204 % based on data for last three days [08:14]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/xidiffsep-has-settled/ [08:22]
ozbot X.IDIFF.SEP has settled pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [08:22]
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benkay mircea_popescu: https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/ [08:57]
mircea_popescu o hey. pretty cool. [08:58]
benkay it's coming [08:58]
benkay imagine the shark song from jaws [08:58]
benkay dun dun dun dun udn [08:58]
benkay dun* [08:59]
benkay "pysicists must also prove that the new geometric formulation applies to the exact particles that are known to exist in the universe, rather than to the idealized qft they used to develop it called maximally supersymmetric Yang-Mills theory. this model, which includes a "superpartner" particle (gotta look at that) and treats space-time as flat, "just happens to be the simplest test case for these new [09:01]
benkay tools" [09:01]
benkay gotcha bitch [09:01]
mircea_popescu you know this is by no means very new right ? [09:02]
benkay nah [09:02]
benkay just a neat collection of facts [09:02]
benkay well [09:02]
benkay a neat collection of math wankery to be unkind [09:02]
benkay i mention it because it references a pretty efficient way to do some aspects of modeling of quantum states [09:03]
mircea_popescu they;ve been diddling with drawing it for... 30 years ? [09:03]
mircea_popescu i guess the name is new. [09:03]
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benkay nominally the doing away with space and time as different things is new [09:05]
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mod6 does it change the idea of a Calabiâ-Yau structure to the Amplituhedron? [09:07]
benkay got me [09:08]
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benkay wouldn't be the first time one group of braniacs came up with a new name for an old thing discovered by mathematicians [09:08]
mircea_popescu mod6 on the face of it there's a brighjt young canadian guy and his grad student that either found some shortcut in c-y or else are just repackaging it for the media buzz. [09:09]
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mircea_popescu i can't immediately discern and meh, i have a bunch of other shit to do atm [09:09]
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benkay mp how do you know all of the things [09:09]
mod6 heheh, im with you. i dont have a ton of time to compare each. [09:09]
mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabi–Yau_manifold that, ftr. [09:09]
mircea_popescu benkay it's my slaves. they teach me a ton of shit. [09:10]
benkay i need slaves [09:10]
mod6 yah that, should have posted a link. [09:10]
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benkay where did you get slaves that taught you about der quantz? [09:11]
mircea_popescu at the bar! [09:11]
mircea_popescu where do you meet womenz ? [09:11]
benkay at the bar [09:11]
benkay in their offices [09:11]
benkay industry events [09:11]
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benkay but but [09:12]
mircea_popescu something like that. principally by recomendation. [09:12]
benkay recommendation to them or to bars? [09:12]
mircea_popescu "dude, you gotta talk to X, she's cute/cool/knows der quantz. come by my place friday ?" [09:13]
benkay many years of doing this not in timisoara [09:14]
mircea_popescu it's tjhe internet dawg. dun matter where you are. [09:14]
benkay irc, forums, various games [09:15]
benkay tactics i suppose [09:15]
benkay i'm still mising holistic strategy [09:15]
mircea_popescu da fuck is that ? [09:15]
benkay strategy? [09:16]
mircea_popescu a ok. [09:17]
benkay i'm just wondering about tactics and then saying that tactics aren't the right place to focus, strategy is, and that i have yet to wrap my head around the governing strategy that results in an army of slaves that teach you qft. [09:17]
mircea_popescu what's the hurry anyway. [09:17]
benkay well as soon as i realize i'm studying tactics i generally stop [09:17]
benkay 'cause foundations first? [09:17]
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mircea_popescu im not sure there's an imbalance of that kind. you can get to be a great chess player either practically, spending all your time in central park playing chess with the dudes [09:19]
mircea_popescu or theoretically, never even touching a chess table, studying graphs or w/e [09:19]
mircea_popescu matter of what suits you best i guess. [09:19]
benkay i shoot for some balance [09:19]
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benkay tweak it [09:19]
benkay read a bunch [09:19]
benkay build a bunch [09:20]
benkay drink a bunch of beers with the well-capitalized [09:20]
benkay build more stuff [09:20]
mircea_popescu jhehe. dun see anything wrong with that plan. [09:20]
benkay it's slow. i'm impatient. [09:20]
mircea_popescu hence what's the hurry. [09:20]
benkay fundamental tension of my life [09:21]
benkay sales take forever to close [09:21]
mircea_popescu just relax eh. [09:21]
benkay okay :) [09:23]
benkay but only in as a joke about your long-running schtick about "shutting up and doing as one's told by one's betters" [09:23]
mircea_popescu lol [09:23]
mircea_popescu in any case i wouldn't read too much into the happenstance that i know what c-y is. shit looks cool, it's naturally interesting to my particular mindset. [09:24]
mircea_popescu it's not the case that i know ALL OF THE THINGS to the degree i can immediately summarize any argument of any deepness in any field. [09:24]
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mod6 The work is â€"Very unexpected from several points of vi,," said Witten. "The field is still developing very fast, and it is difficult to guess what will happen or what the lessons will turn out to be." [09:41]
mod6 *view [09:41]
mod6 <3 Ed Witten [09:43]
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mod6 ;;nethash [09:53]
gribble 966448.247171 [09:53]
mod6 ;;bc,stats [09:54]
gribble Current Blocks: 258596 | Current Difficulty: 1.1262854866634709E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 260063 | Next Difficulty In: 1467 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 14 hours, 7 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 130934805.233 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.25366 [09:54]
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mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2422753/Security-expert-breaches-NASDAQ-website-just-10-minutes-using-Firefox-web-browser.html [10:09]
ozbot Security expert breaches NASDAQ website in just 10 minutes using only Firefox web browser | Mail On [10:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.047 = 6.141 BTC [-] [10:12]
mircea_popescu http://www.aeonmagazine.com/being-human/david-berreby-obesity-era/ [10:13]
mircea_popescu apparently not just people are getting fatter. ursides and rodents too. [10:13]
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mod6 he notified NASDAQ of the vulnerability multiple times only to be ignored. [10:25]
mod6 Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2422753/Security-expert-breaches-NASDAQ-website-just-10-minutes-using-Firefox-web-browser.html#ixzz2fE7HkYKS [10:25]
mod6 bah. [10:25]
mod6 i like that part :> [10:25]
mircea_popescu hehe. yeah. [10:25]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly, [10:26]
mircea_popescu "There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom. The glib supposition of utilizing atomic energy when our coal has run out is a completely unscientific Utopian dream, a childish bug-a-boo. Nature has introduced a few fool-proof devices into the great majority of elements that constitute the bulk of the world, and they have no energy to give up in the process of disintegration." [10:26]
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mircea_popescu milikan :D [10:26]
mod6 haha [10:26]
mircea_popescu "any one who expects a source of power from the transformation of these atoms is talking moonshine" [10:27]
mircea_popescu rutherford. [10:27]
mircea_popescu i guess that's how far "scientific consensus" goes. [10:27]
mircea_popescu cca 1920 it was the scientific consensus that we will never have nuclear reactors. [10:27]
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mod6 i guess "scientific consensus" usually prohibits its constituants to dream and imagine. [10:29]
mircea_popescu this is fact. as explained by kuhn et all, scientific endeavour is impossible absent some sort of paradigm. [10:30]
mircea_popescu you gotta throw out large swathes of "possibilities" in order to be able to do something useful. [10:30]
mircea_popescu which reminds me : "Production of useful work is limited by the laws of thermodynamics, but the production of useless work seems to be unlimited." [10:30]
mod6 haha. [10:31]
mod6 ya [10:31]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.0755 = 4.151 BTC [+] {2} [10:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 554 @ 0.00611484 = 3.3876 BTC [-] {3} [10:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.076 BTC [+] [10:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.01929313 = 1.2926 BTC [+] {2} [10:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00092303 = 14.1685 BTC [+] {3} [10:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.047 = 4.094 BTC [-] [10:59]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 200 @ 0.00262 = 0.524 BTC [-] [11:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00119931 = 0.5997 BTC [+] {2} [11:19]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.076 = 6.228 BTC [+] [11:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.076 = 4.152 BTC [+] [11:32]
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Ukyo mircea_popescu there? :) [11:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.077 BTC [+] [11:37]
mircea_popescu yeah [11:40]
mircea_popescu Ukyo sup ? [11:40]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 159 @ 0.00254646 = 0.4049 BTC [-] {6} [11:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 73 @ 0.0193 = 1.4089 BTC [+] [11:42]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 331 @ 0.00240891 = 0.7973 BTC [-] {4} [11:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.1069 = 0.5345 BTC [+] [11:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2095 BTC [+] [11:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 135 @ 0.002404 = 0.3245 BTC [+] [11:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.1069 = 0.3207 BTC [+] [11:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1069 BTC [+] [11:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [RSM] 25 @ 0.006985 = 0.1746 BTC [-] [12:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1069 BTC [+] [12:01]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.9388 BTC [-] [12:07]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 54 @ 0.0024895 = 0.1344 BTC [+] {2} [12:09]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 41 @ 0.0025 = 0.1025 BTC [+] [12:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ET.DIFF.LONG] 42 @ 0.012 = 0.504 BTC [+] [12:21]
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donjon what does that [S] means? [12:29]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01891 = 0.7564 BTC [-] [12:31]
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Ukyo Sell [12:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.047 BTC [-] [12:35]
mircea_popescu nah stocks [12:38]
mircea_popescu theres Stocks, Bonds, FuNds and Options [12:38]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.048 BTC [+] [12:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 92 @ 0.01903869 = 1.7516 BTC [+] {2} [12:42]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0193 = 0.2702 BTC [+] [12:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.17782 = 0.8891 BTC [-] {2} [12:49]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.046 = 4.092 BTC [-] {2} [13:09]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 15 @ 0.01959 = 0.2939 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01959999 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2} [13:21]
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