Forum logs for 19 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu dude if obama gets fucking ebola... [00:02]
BingoBoingo Really will be obola [00:04]
decimation "Finally, we can't just cut ourselves off from West Africa, where this disease is raging." [00:05]
BingoBoingo decimation: Because he works for Big Chocolate [00:06]
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decimation by 'cut ourselves off' he means 'allow unrestricted travel into the us from the region' [00:06]
mircea_popescu lol why not ? [00:06]
decimation the entire gdp of liberia is less than the market cap of bitcoin [00:06]
mircea_popescu seriously, anyone got a good reason why west africa can't just be glassed ? [00:06]
mircea_popescu what's the loss ? [00:06]
mircea_popescu can anyone name any thing, of any type or kind, that ever in the history of humanity came from west africa. [00:07]
decimation most 'people' who live there have already found means to leave [00:07]
mircea_popescu anything at all. [00:07]
decimation the ancestors of detroit? [00:07]
mircea_popescu i don't mean disease, weird pseudomedical garbage, etc etc. i mean, something noteworthy. [00:07]
mircea_popescu name a great west african for that matter. [00:07]
decimation charlest taylor? [00:08]
mircea_popescu kinda my point. [00:08]
mircea_popescu so "cutting ourselves off" ? how about there's no good argument against simply burning it to the ground. [00:09]
mircea_popescu dat overton window. [00:09]
decimation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29 "171 Liberia $1,491 mn" [00:09]
assbot List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [00:09]
mircea_popescu if the discussion was a proper, "well, do we burn it to the ground or just forget about it", the sanity of embargo would emerge [00:09]
bounce chocolate; lots of cocoa coming from ivory coast (which did get its name for a reason) [00:09]
mircea_popescu decimation look, it makes almost enough to buy watsapp. [00:09]
mircea_popescu in 20 years. [00:09]
decimation lol [00:09]
decimation maybe it can save up [00:10]
mircea_popescu bounce wait, the one thing those people will be remembered for is... a plant ? [00:10]
mircea_popescu fucking vegetable country huh. [00:10]
bounce oh bananas, those too [00:10]
mircea_popescu cocoa will grow fine a dozen other places. [00:10]
decimation once the us tried to send the slaves back to liberia [00:10]
mircea_popescu it's not from eurasia anyway [00:10]
decimation the repatriated slaves immediately enslaved the locals and began running plantations [00:11]
mircea_popescu doh [00:11]
decimation which more-or-less worked until that became politically incorrect [00:11]
bounce ``Although workers' wages in Africa are lower than almost all countries in Latin America, [banana] production costs remain relatively high. This is mainly due to the lack of adequate infrastructure (road networks, communications and maritime transport) and variable quality due to climatic issues.'' [00:11]
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decimation right, which is my point about the 'quarantine' . it's not like the us is making any money off of liberian trade, quite the opposite [00:14]
decimation so obama needs to make the argument why one extra obola death is worth having, given the ease of avoiding the possibility [00:14]
decimation no one is saying westerners who want to go help can't go [00:14]
bounce too many westerners "helping" there as is [00:15]
mircea_popescu that's kinda the problem tho [00:18]
mircea_popescu pretty much everyone in washington is somehoe connected to a bezzle thing that runs on "helping" west africa [00:18]
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mircea_popescu so obviously washington can't just tell these people to gtfo [00:19]
decimation mircea_popescu: indeed. but even then, they could make exceptions to whatever ban they make [00:19]
bounce which means that just about any ban is useless from the start [00:19]
mircea_popescu ^ [00:20]
decimation well, if a westerner becomes infected, it's on them to make arrangements to prevent further transmission [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00073564 = 28.2486 BTC [-] [00:21]
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decimation not that there's any way of enforcing that, what with the health-care related welfare and whatnot [00:21]
chetty well, if a westerner becomes infected, it's on them to make arrangements to prevent further transmission//yeah that nurse did a good job flying to and from ohio [00:21]
decimation chetty: apparently she asked the cdc if it was okay and they said 'yes'! [00:22]
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decimation I feel sorry for those whose god is usg - he constantly stabs his followers in the back. [00:23]
decimation http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/15/cdc-officials-confirm-they-told-dallas-ebola-patient-it-was-ok-for-her-to-fly-even-with-low-grade-fever-report/ [00:24]
assbot CDC Officials Confirm They Gave Second Dallas Ebola Nurse Permission to Fly Even After She Called to Report Fever | TheBlaze.com [00:24]
TheNewDeal quiz question - who did btctc? [00:25]
decimation wasn't that related to the asicminer stuff? [00:25]
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TheNewDeal yeah and other stuff https://sites.google.com/site/surfcapitalmgmt/security-research/btctc---amc-pt [00:26]
assbot BTCTC - AMC-PT - Surf Capital Mgmt [00:26]
decimation burnside? [00:26]
TheNewDeal gotcha [00:29]
decimation https://btct.co/ "Ethan Burnside BTC Trading Corp" [00:30]
assbot BTC-TC: BTC Trading Corp [00:30]
TheNewDeal didn't have a significant presence in the wot ? http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=burnside [00:31]
assbot Rating Details for User 'burnside' [00:31]
BingoBoingo http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d04c674377a644cc9270cadaedaf4893/police-another-ambush-suspect-sighting-reported [00:33]
assbot Police: Another ambush suspect sighting reported [00:33]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/10/incoin-promises-to-liberate-your-payroll/ come back penguirker [00:37]
assbot Incoin Promises To Liberate Your Payroll | Qntra.net [00:37]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 0.03 * [[;;ticker]] [00:40]
gribble Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command. [00:40]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 0.03 * [[ticker]] [00:40]
gribble Error: "Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.92, Best ask: 395.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 393.54, 24 hour volume: 7747.75851176, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.898564439" is not a valid command. [00:40]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 0.03 * [[ ticker ]] [00:40]
gribble Error: "Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.92, Best ask: 395.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 393.54, 24 hour volume: 7747.75851176, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.898564439" is not a valid command. [00:40]
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mats_cd03 struggle bus [00:41]
mats_cd03 ;;calc 0.03 * [ticker --last] [00:42]
gribble 11.8314 [00:42]
ben_vulpes thanks mats_cd03 [00:42]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [00:54]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 392.96, Best ask: 393.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 393.0, 24 hour volume: 7807.32067083, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.998359226 [00:54]
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mats_cd03 changing your btc buying habits ben_vulpes? [01:02]
cazalla Surf Capital still around eh "Surf Capital Management is responding to a voluntary inquiry from a United States federal regulatory body. More information will be posted as it becomes available. " [01:02]
cazalla prepare your angus [01:03]
kakobrekla what [01:03]
kakobrekla i suspekt he made that shit up [01:04]
cazalla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg8906480#msg8906480 here [01:04]
assbot [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund [01:04]
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mats_cd03 wouldn't it be 'performing a voluntary inquiry in response to a ...' [01:05]
mats_cd03 what is this english. [01:05]
The20YearIRCloud Hi [01:05]
mats_cd03 Hi [01:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00073564 = 14.7128 BTC [-] [01:05]
ben_vulpes Hi [01:08]
ben_vulpes mats_cd03: well you see i am an utter pauper [01:08]
ben_vulpes can only afford hundredth-coin buys [01:08]
mats_cd03 ill give you 0.03 if you put a sharpie in your butt [01:09]
ben_vulpes starfish is worth a sight more than that [01:09]
mats_cd03 exploding offer [01:09]
ben_vulpes slowly heating's supposed to do the trick [01:10]
kakobrekla >As always, additional information can be obtained by calling +1-855-483-2776. [01:10]
kakobrekla does he charge to call that line? [01:10]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen burnside [01:16]
gribble burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 12 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: lol [01:16]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal ^ [01:16]
mircea_popescu if you search the log you'll see he got called out numerous times. [01:16]
mircea_popescu cazalla are they still loving the neobee brick and store whatever ? [01:17]
mircea_popescu i suspekt he made that shit up << hey, that coinfire guy sure impressed everybody with similar claims, right ? so now it's open season. [01:18]
kakobrekla dunno [01:25]
kakobrekla maybe he got the idea from buttstamp [01:25]
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mircea_popescu dc: "hey mp, you know you have a server here that's been sorta-ddosed for a day straight ?" [01:27]
kakobrekla heh my boys didnt even ping me this time [01:28]
mircea_popescu mp: "yeah, send mullenweg my poetries" [01:28]
xanthyos is that why logs were down last night? [01:32]
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xanthyos http://www.heathershumaker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ITSOK_cover-Final-May-199x300.jpg [01:52]
BingoBoingo %d [01:57]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327547.03 in 35 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.56 [01:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00073549 = 1.9123 BTC [-] {2} [02:13]
kakobrekla xanthyos if you read them you will know :) [02:14]
xanthyos i want to get maryjane in the wot but she doesn't even currently own a laptop, just an android phone [02:23]
kakobrekla well lucky for her, RSA can be done with pen and paper ? [02:24]
xanthyos heh [02:24]
kakobrekla ill buy her a lappy if she does it [02:25]
xanthyos heh i just read a bit on that and it's beyond her math skills [02:25]
kakobrekla aww [02:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42566 @ 0.00073756 = 31.395 BTC [+] {3} [02:38]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: RSA pen & paper << about the same as muscle-airplane. yes, possible. [02:46]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: no, you don't want. [02:47]
kakobrekla not even just once? [02:47]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: go for it. brush up on trachtenberg or whatever similar system you prefer. [02:51]
kakobrekla the idea was for maryjane to do it and score a solution while finding the solution [02:56]
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ben_vulpes http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/english-version-could-be-a-damaged-russian-submarine_4023511.svd [03:17]
assbot English version: Could be a damaged russian submarine | SvD [03:17]
ben_vulpes "This time it was encrypted but it was possible to determine the position of the transmitter and the reciever." << how would the latter part be possible? [03:18]
Adlai holy shit [03:18]
Adlai https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/bad-day-bad-patents-supreme-court-unanimously-strikes-down-abstract-software [03:18]
assbot Bad Day for Bad Patents: Supreme Court Unanimously Strikes Down Abstract Software Patent | Electronic Frontier Foundation [03:18]
Adlai how was i unaware of this for so long [03:18]
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BingoBoingo Adlai: Because it takes further fucking around in the lower courts for a few decades to see how it will actually be interpreted. And eventually another case if 50 years to address the matter again... Provided the institution is still there to address it in 50 years. [03:22]
* Adlai is wondering whether any part of scalpl counts as 'patentable' under this new precedent, ie, more than just adding a computer into an existing practice [03:23]
kakobrekla ben_vulpes triangulation? [03:24]
ben_vulpes kakobrekla: please explain to me how you triangulate a receiver. [03:25]
kakobrekla i suspekt it was two way com [03:25]
ben_vulpes bidirectional [03:25]
ben_vulpes mkay [03:25]
kakobrekla just a guess [03:25]
ben_vulpes hardly just a receiver then. [03:25]
ben_vulpes but w/e/ [03:25]
kakobrekla mhm [03:26]
Adlai xanthyos: …beyond her math skills « so just compile it to within her math skill, [03:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26489 @ 0.00074213 = 19.6583 BTC [+] {2} [03:36]
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BingoBoingo I miss having pankkake on our side http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/18/nlcs-ended/ [03:43]
assbot NLCS Ended | Bingo Blog [03:43]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [03:45]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 390.52, vol: 6961.29402073 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 383.781, vol: 4777.18617 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 389.4, vol: 11886.13927131 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 389.962033, vol: 82268.71320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 395.79193, vol: 0.95977536 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 395.56, vol: 26.51499854 | Volume-weighted last average: 389.65831411 [03:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00073647 = 14.177 BTC [-] {2} [03:51]
* Adlai is on nobody's side, because nobody is on his side [03:55]
Adlai BingoBoingo: gak what is this, it's like qntra but not [03:55]
BingoBoingo Adlai: Personal blog. Cazalla adapted my css for Qntra [03:55]
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Adlai good artists copy, great artists adapt [03:56]
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BingoBoingo Just not as high performance as Qntra's version because BG image instead of just BG color [04:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30139 @ 0.00074079 = 22.3267 BTC [+] {2} [04:02]
BingoBoingo So it looks like the great excessive bounty of tomatoes is going to end tomorrow. It's supposed to frost. Probably ought to pick the green ones and fry them. [04:13]
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BingoBoingo So, looks like the Dosing started already tonight. Bingo Blog is under [04:23]
BingoBoingo ;;isup thedrinkingrecord.com [04:23]
gribble thedrinkingrecord.com is down [04:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71100 @ 0.00073595 = 52.326 BTC [-] {4} [04:29]
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thestringpuller someone is attacking bingo blog now? [04:33]
thestringpuller http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/11120639/Facebook-drones-the-size-of-jumbo-jets-to-soar-17-miles-up.html [04:35]
assbot Facebook drones the size of jumbo jets to soar 17 miles up - Telegraph [04:35]
BingoBoingo Well, they did this morning for just under an hour according to the lawgz [04:35]
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BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Oh, its back nao [04:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00074213 = 2.5232 BTC [+] [04:37]
ben_vulpes here's an interesting nugget [04:38]
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ben_vulpes http://pastebin.com/7fxfmy0k [04:38]
assbot WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libdb4.8 libdb4.8++ - Pastebin.com [04:38]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Building bitcoind? [04:39]
BingoBoingo And bdb continues to suck dick, but less enthusiastically than alternatives? [04:40]
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ben_vulpes yup. [04:41]
ben_vulpes hm should i be doing this on debian 6? [04:41]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: specifically, 0.6.3 from source. [04:42]
BingoBoingo Do it on whatever, just build everything from ports. [04:42]
BingoBoingo Mac OS has ports, right? [04:44]
ben_vulpes nah, that's not what i'm doing. [04:44]
danielpbarron why not OpenBSD? [04:44]
ben_vulpes macos is its own crazy problem that I'm not about to impose on anyone. [04:45]
ben_vulpes danielpbarron: i'm building a container with docker, and a cursory search turned up no docker base image for openbsd. [04:45]
BingoBoingo What about the real Unix based Macintosh operating system A/UX [04:45]
BingoBoingo OpenBSD doesn't Docker. not well at least [04:46]
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BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Maybe try Funtoo? [04:46]
ben_vulpes http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6XPHUNfM [04:46]
danielpbarron ;;ud docker [04:46]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docker | Nickname or brand name for pants, usually the orginal khaki color. Dockers brand is Levi Strauss & Co's business/casual line, marketed to middle-aged, ... [04:46]
TomServo BingoBoingo: Gracias. [04:46]
BingoBoingo ;;ud docking [04:46]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking | docking. The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis. David and Patrick enjoyed docking immensely because of Patty's ... [04:46]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot TomServo [04:47]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask TomServo!sewandsew@airportsecurity.junktouch.org. Trust relationship from user assbot to user TomServo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=TomServo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TomServo | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:39:46 2014 [04:47]
danielpbarron they have computer pants now? [04:47]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Well the Slacks to Khakis transition happened for a reason... [04:48]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Are you building bitcoind on lucid? [04:50]
ben_vulpes wheezy [04:50]
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ben_vulpes considering using squeezy [04:50]
ben_vulpes because that was released ca. 2013, roundabout when 0.6 came out [04:51]
BingoBoingo Well prolly unsafe to use Uncle Jessie [04:51]
BingoBoingo Oh after 15 minute reprieve thedrinkingrecord is down again [04:52]
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BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Why are you using Ubuntu packages for Debian builds? [04:52]
ben_vulpes aforementioned libdb4.8-dev [04:53]
ben_vulpes but uh [04:53]
ben_vulpes good question [04:53]
BingoBoingo Why not just rip the source from Sun/Oracle? [04:54]
BingoBoingo Don't they have a signed tarball? [04:54]
BingoBoingo I kind of doubt Debian is going to have the pubkeys to verify Ubuntu packages [04:55]
BingoBoingo Unless you bring those in first [04:55]
ben_vulpes that's precisely what i was banging into. [04:56]
BingoBoingo Really? [04:57]
ben_vulpes mhm [04:58]
BingoBoingo Seems like what docker does to people. [04:58]
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BingoBoingo Bludgeons them with other concerns so they can't see the obvious through the bruises [04:59]
BingoBoingo ;;ud sound docking [04:59]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking. [04:59]
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BingoBoingo Also why was I getting cheap vodka all of this time when I could have been getting cheap grain alcohol? [05:01]
ben_vulpes pahahahaha [05:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00073858 = 14.033 BTC [-] {2} [05:02]
BingoBoingo I mean seriously, if I want to get drunk on flavor x, why was I tainting the experience with extra water from the vodka? [05:03]
BingoBoingo Also... a lesson in fighting below your weight class http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11723353/lance-leipold-wisconsin-whitewater-warhawks-becomes-fastest-coach-100-wins-ncaa-history [05:04]
assbot Lance Leipold of Wisconsin-Whitewater Warhawks becomes fastest coach to 100 wins in NCAA history - ESPN [05:04]
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Namworld Bingo... I already saw the term docking... so when I saw that sound docking, let's say I got a picture of someone inserting his penis inside a speaker. And not an advanced form of docking ._. [05:10]
Namworld Seriously, wtf... That's fucked up. I don't even want to know how that could possibly work. [05:11]
thestringpuller oh god [05:11]
thestringpuller stop scarring people for lyfe [05:11]
BingoBoingo Namworld: Well pencildick exists as a slur for a reason. You have to assume dicks that thin actually exist. [05:11]
Namworld 3spooky5me [05:11]
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mircea_popescu speaker ?! wut ? [05:11]
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thestringpuller My girl still claims her ex had a 3 inch penis or something. [05:12]
Namworld Docking... into sound system. Sound docking. [05:12]
Namworld Well seeing something out of context can conjure weird images. [05:12]
ben_vulpes so i'm not a a c professional by any stretch of the mind - where do the obj/*.o files come from? [05:13]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: gcc -c [05:14]
thestringpuller basically .c files are compiled into binary .o files [05:14]
ben_vulpes thanks, thestringpuller [05:14]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: .o is what files compile to on less bad OS's [05:14]
thestringpuller LOL [05:14]
BingoBoingo Similar to how OSS is the best *nix sound server [05:15]
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BingoBoingo http://www.kpho.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory << Biodiesel, literally [05:16]
assbot 500 lb. body causes fire at Henrico crematory - CBS 5 - KPHO [05:16]
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mats_cd03 ;;ud sounding [05:18]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sounding | The practice of inserting plastic or metal 'sounds' (long thin and very smooth objects) into yours or someone elses uretha. Ultimately leads to str... [05:18]
mats_cd03 huk [05:19]
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thestringpuller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zKmqm_3t7M [05:24]
assbot Beavis & Butt-HeadS06E141 - The Mystery Of Morning Wood.avi - YouTube [05:24]
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thestringpuller any beavis and butthead fans [05:24]
xanthyos ya [05:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00073846 = 9.5261 BTC [-] {2} [05:25]
BingoBoingo Missed it by a few years [05:26]
PeterL bingoboingo, I've almost got a replacement for penguiker ready [05:27]
BingoBoingo PeterL: Awesome [05:27]
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BingoBoingo !up drawingthesun [05:27]
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BingoBoingo %d [05:27]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327605.70 in 30 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.56 [05:27]
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thestringpuller %tslb [05:29]
atcbot Time Since Last ATC Block (#46338): 0 hour(s), 21 minutes [05:29]
kakobrekla PeterL if you are going to do it, make the syntax 'New blog post on $sitename by $author: $url" [05:29]
PeterL ok, I think I can get all that in [05:30]
kakobrekla i was just going to assimilate it into assbot but go ahead :) [05:32]
BingoBoingo http://thehappyhospitalist.blogspot.com/2014/10/Ebola-CDC-Flowchart-Blames-Nurses.html [05:32]
assbot Who To Blame When You Get Ebola: A CDC Guide For Healthcare Workers [05:32]
BingoBoingo In 20 years, assbot does everybot job [05:33]
* BingoBoingo can't wait for S.ASS [05:33]
PeterL how does assbot make money? [05:34]
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BingoBoingo !Up scoopbot [05:38]
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kakobrekla PeterL BingoBoingo has a sekrit plan? [05:39]
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thestringpuller kakobrekla: i still can't get to logs [05:39]
thestringpuller :( [05:39]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Nah, I don't have plans. [05:40]
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decimation apparently debian is going to 'discuss' the possibility of getting rid of systemd again https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html [05:40]
assbot Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems [05:40]
kakobrekla well there you go. [05:40]
BingoBoingo !down ninja_alt [05:40]
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BingoBoingo decimation: Not get rid of, but allow alternatives too. [05:40]
decimation "allow" [05:42]
BingoBoingo decimation: Well, make sure all packages work with other init systems too. [05:42]
BingoBoingo So OpenRC in ur Debian [05:42]
decimation I don't see so much evil behind what redhat/poettering is doing as much as just steering the boat toward their interests [05:44]
decimation redhat wants to make an osx clone for the desktop, and a virtual machine distribution for servers [05:44]
BingoBoingo decimation: Well, poettering/rh basically wants to cut down the number of distros so they can be an Apple [05:45]
BingoBoingo !up ninja_alt [05:45]
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decimation precisely. what is interesting is that we see the same pattern of action that we saw with the iphone [05:45]
decimation pre-iphone there were a variety of hardware devices, post-iphone there are only iphone clones [05:46]
decimation this is roughly how 'independent' linux distributions operate [05:46]
decimation "However, de Tocqueville came to the opposite conclusion: that in few places could one find ‘less independence of mind, and true freedom of discussion, than in America’. Trusting that the system was fair and just, Americans simply gave up their independence of mind, and put their faith in newspapers and so-called ‘common sense’." [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://blog.btcscoop.com/this-is-just-a-test-ignore-this/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://blog.btcscoop.com/infinitely-inflating-stock-s-qntr/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://blog.btcscoop.com/browser-defaults/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/incoin-promises-to-liberate-your-payroll/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dogecoin-facebook-contributor-to-jail/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/yo-trilema-fratires/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/slavery-the-best-thing-for-you-no-seriously/ [05:47]
scoopbot New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-claims/ [05:47]
assbot This is just a test, ignore this | BTC Scoop Blog [05:47]
assbot Infinitely inflating stock S.QNTR | BTC Scoop Blog [05:47]
assbot Browser Defaults | BTC Scoop Blog [05:47]
assbot Incoin Promises To Liberate Your Payroll | Qntra.net [05:47]
assbot Dogecoin Facebook Contributor to Jail | Qntra.net [05:47]
assbot Caleb Chen, Stephanie Murphy & Brian Sovryn Assist Ponzi Scheme | Qntra.net [05:47]
assbot Yo, Trilema Fratires! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:47]
assbot Slavery : the best thing for you. No, seriously. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:47]
assbot The problem of claims pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:47]
decimation woah [05:47]
PeterL hmm, that didn't work like I wanted, bleh [05:47]
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mats_cd03 this looks familiar [05:48]
thestringpuller close! [05:48]
PeterL let me work on that [05:49]
ben_vulpes booting is the first edge case [05:50]
ben_vulpes write some tests [05:50]
ben_vulpes :P [05:50]
PeterL sorry about the spam, I'll get it working in a different channel [05:51]
thestringpuller #bitcoin-assets-development [05:56]
thestringpuller lol [05:56]
decimation http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/tso-and-linus-and-the-impotent-rage-against-systemd/ [05:58]
assbot Ts’o and Linus And The Impotent Rage Against systemd « IgnorantGuru's Blog [05:58]
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mircea_popescu whoa w3ho made the scoopbot ? [05:58]
PeterL me [05:59]
PeterL well, making [05:59]
PeterL still working on it [05:59]
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mircea_popescu pretty cool [05:59]
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BingoBoingo decimation: At this rate Linus is going to become a NetBSd dev [06:00]
mircea_popescu hahahah [06:00]
BingoBoingo NetBSD because he knows he can't beat Theo in a profanity war [06:01]
BingoBoingo And might as well boot all the hardware [06:01]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: ll buy her a lappy if she does it << meat ? [06:01]
mircea_popescu Adlai: holy shit << what part was surprising ? [06:02]
mircea_popescu they already had said they will through every available channel. [06:02]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu priorities! [06:03]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: I miss having pankkake on our side <<< which side is he now ? [06:03]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: here's an interesting nugget <<< time to dig [06:04]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He's gone rogue? But not friendly to us. I think something about pete jsut rubs him the wrong way. [06:05]
mircea_popescu dude i dun see it. so guy did some work at some point, then got busy or w/e, dropped the code [06:05]
mircea_popescu what is the fault we find here ? [06:05]
* BingoBoingo was actually excited about Scientific Linux 7 until he saw them bring in systemDevil from upstream [06:06]
decimation yeah I'm not interested in redhat7 for that reason [06:06]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: No fault in pankakke. Just seems busy and the "run old working software" party line seems to set him off. [06:06]
BingoBoingo I miss his troll persistence though. [06:07]
mircea_popescu well so not everyone agrees with everything. [06:07]
BingoBoingo No, they don't [06:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0007415 = 3.8558 BTC [+] [06:07]
BingoBoingo Dayjobs I guess do weird things to people [06:07]
mircea_popescu myah. [06:07]
BingoBoingo So it looks like tonight thedrinkingrecord is getting all the DOS [06:08]
mircea_popescu how's that working out ? [06:09]
decimation lol https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/415 << the systemd people tried to get Linus to accept a patch where the 'debug' kernel command argument would be silently removed from userspace, because it would trigger systemd spamming errors so badly that it wouldn't boot the system [06:10]
assbot LKML: Steven Rostedt: [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline [06:10]
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BingoBoingo Well, the site goes down, but it is shared hosting on dreamhost still so it doesn't get more expensive for me. [06:10]
BingoBoingo I just file support tickets and frontline support derps about how they don't see a DOS [06:11]
mircea_popescu decimation did he tell them just how fucking drunk the whores of their mothers must have been to fuck the donkeys that fathered them ? [06:11]
mircea_popescu and you know THAT is not the because. [06:12]
mircea_popescu the because is that they made it deliberately spammy and unbootable, because they don't want that flag. [06:12]
decimation heh unfortunately no " Key, I'm f*cking tired of the fact that you don't fix problems in the code *you* write, so that the kernel then has to work around the problems you cause." [06:12]
mircea_popescu close enough. [06:12]
decimation yeah, basically they don't want the users to have an easy way to expose how buggy their shit is [06:13]
mircea_popescu not just. [06:13]
mircea_popescu it's gonna get buggier. but more interestingly so. [06:13]
decimation linus and his wot are pretty much the only thing standing between 'linux' and 'redhat hat kernel!!' [06:13]
* BingoBoingo will prolly pick up the next OpenBSD CD's... wishes OpenBSD saw the wisdom in an actual fundraiser so Bob Beck could code and not disappoint the firsted biggest donor [06:14]
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mircea_popescu decimation yup. [06:16]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo take heart in the secure knowledge that never was there a shortage of sexual congress where there were healthy men and young sluts present. and while the young sluts were never in question, bitcoin generated plenty of healthy men. [06:17]
mircea_popescu through which metaphore i am suggesting, of course, that coders are whores and money is a penis. [06:17]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [06:17]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0S4Z4AB.txt ) [06:17]
asciilifeform them's whores & money's the clap. [06:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no. see, you're jaded. [06:18]
mircea_popescu not all cocks are contagious. [06:18]
asciilifeform ehe. [06:18]
mircea_popescu it goes on a cock by cock basis, i tell you! [06:18]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Money's merely a Candida. In right forms it prevents gangrene. In wrong forms it is worse than any cancer. [06:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo technically speaking children are kinda like ovarian cancer... [06:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Why are you using Ubuntu packages for Debian builds? <<< zing! [06:20]
BingoBoingo Uterine cancer. If the pregnancy goes ectopic and they become a uterine cancer... They ought to be punished early so as to not become a child [06:20]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 500 lb. body causes fire at Henrico crematory << one time i spent an evening reading cremator manuals (for no particular reason. happened to stroll by a modern crematory on evening walk in new street, was curious.) every manufacturer has special instructions for the peculiarly fat 'clients.' [06:21]
asciilifeform main danger, as i understand, is that their combustion will: create a visible plume of smoke. or, the ultimate catastrophe, 'auschwitzy' smell. [06:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol [06:21]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The one my father visited cautioned against too well built coffins. The wrong wood and wrong body can take up to a week. [06:22]
asciilifeform in usa, most locales will impose serious fines or even yank cremation license for this. [06:22]
mircea_popescu on my way to school in jr high (i walked, bout a mile) i went on a road that went by the medical school's campus' crematorium [06:22]
mircea_popescu it smelled like burned people at least twice a week. [06:22]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller: My girl still claims her ex had a 3 inch penis or something. << these exist. [06:23]
decimation in usa it must be pretended that no one is fat or dead [06:23]
BingoBoingo First stint of grad school best parking place for plastic car was near med school body storage. Smelled freon often, formaldahyde yes, bodies... never. Curse of the USA is its surface area. [06:24]
mircea_popescu PeterL: how does assbot make money? << occasional donations i guess [06:25]
decimation asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff [06:26]
mircea_popescu but that's the approach. burn it in pure oxygen [06:27]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff << Disolve in vegetable oil, emulsify with albumin, condiment that passes spec in Ohio [06:27]
decimation every molecule is precious when it comes to the environment!! [06:27]
mircea_popescu decimation: pre-iphone there were a variety of hardware devices, post-iphone there are only iphone clones <<< this is because current crop of ruminants are idiots, believe in the myth of "the best" [06:27]
mircea_popescu consumer electronics however is not comensurate with os. [06:28]
asciilifeform decimation: french method also works (sink to the bottom of the atlantic, with 1kg trotyl per 1kg of shell) [06:28]
decimation http://www.hcn.org/issues/106/3348 << "Vincent, chairman of the Sierra Club's Environmental Quality Strategy Team, says the Army should invest in technologies that will be useful to private companies, rather than wasting time and money on incineration: "It is unconscionable for the military to be investing in dead-end technologies that nobody else wants." " [06:30]
assbot Bombs go up in smoke in a rural Utah county High Country News [06:31]
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asciilifeform http://imgur.com/a/oZSiI [06:43]
assbot DC Curiosities - Imgur [06:43]
asciilifeform ^ now with gasenwagen shots. [06:43]
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decimation asciilifeform: re: ambulance << yep: http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/inside-presidents-armored-limo << "What's in the trunk? Extra weapons, a separate oxygen supply under the president's seat and emergency medical equipment, including bottles of the president's blood type in case the ambulance (one always travels in the motorcade) gets cut off." [06:46]
assbot Inside the President's armored limo | Autoweek [06:46]
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asciilifeform aha so same as brezhnev. [06:46]
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decimation asciilifeform: I have witnessed similar 'convoys' in wash dc. It's amusing to see how the "sovereign people" are so easily herded away from public areas [06:47]
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asciilifeform this was the first i ever saw one alive. [06:47]
decimation like, can the president cancel 'freedom of assembly' where he wants? [06:47]
asciilifeform they will close streets, restaurants, etc. for blocks. [06:47]
asciilifeform hitler, stalin - never. [06:48]
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decimation george will has a story about obama's visit to his house when he first came to town. apparently the secret service told the neighbors that they weren't allowed to walk on their own lawn [06:49]
mats_cd03 'convoys' are the worst [06:49]
mats_cd03 stay indoors for x hours while we ... file past you. [06:49]
decimation I would like to see a us attorney defend that to a judge [06:49]
BingoBoingo hitler, stalin - never. << But those preceeded the Kennedy Fuher [06:49]
decimation I suspect that you had every legal right to walk right past that secret service uniformed guy closing lafayette park [06:51]
asciilifeform there, interestingly, was a camera crew from some local rag [06:51]
asciilifeform filming - what? this, evidently. [06:51]
asciilifeform (does one have a legal right to resurrection once shot by the goons?) [06:52]
decimation my understanding is that the press 'takes turns' filming every movement of the president so that if he explodes or something they will have the film [06:52]
asciilifeform notably, no one announced 'the fuhrer is progressing' [06:52]
asciilifeform just 'this area is temporarily restricted' [06:52]
decimation asciilifeform: I've seen lafayette park closed just for 'quitting time' for white house people to walk away without having to touch the smelly tourists [06:53]
decimation for 'freedom and security' of course [06:53]
asciilifeform i'd say, half of it is 'the boot stamping on the human face forever' - sheer pleasure in herding the peasants, sticking finger into their anthills, [06:57]
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asciilifeform and half - these folks know that they are evil incarnate. and that more or less the entire planet wishes them ill. [06:58]
asciilifeform even the subjugated pederasts of natoworld. [06:58]
BingoBoingo You know... In the current jurisidtion... No one gives mayor joe trouble, inspite of the populace probably being moar aremed than DC's [06:59]
decimation http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/30214722-452/sneed-whats-the-secret-to-valerie-jarretts-security-detail.html [06:59]
assbot Sneed: Whats the secret to Valerie Jarretts security detail? - Chicago Sun-Times [06:59]
decimation asciilifeform: I suspect for the second half that they don't think of themselves as evil - they think that those who would wish them ill as evil. they are just trying to do good, you see - they are just "in the loop" [07:02]
asciilifeform there are definitely elements of a 'forbidden city' wank fantasy also. [07:03]
asciilifeform 'if i get 8 inches of crystalline unobtainium armour, i must be important' [07:03]
decimation as I recall, the leaders of those who overthrew the czar immediately began using his fancy boats, palaces, etc for their own private benefit because "they were for the people" [07:04]
asciilifeform aha. [07:05]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform> 'if i get 8 inches of crystalline unobtainium armour, i must be important' << Shhh stop talking about my tent [07:05]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2014#827001 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2014#827002 [07:05]
assbot Logged on 11-09-2014 23:45:36; asciilifeform: 'Take a look in History, flip through her pages. The first action in revolutions of recent history -- the erection of barricades. They'll smash the cobble stones of the street, dig them out, and block off the road with them. They'll stop cars, buses, fill the street with bricks. And also they'll attack, plunder, raze, and put to the torch the city hall, administrative buildings, pre [07:06]
assbot Logged on 11-09-2014 23:45:36; asciilifeform: t, shops, warehouses. The crowd has - a correct instinct. It would like to destroy the city - the citadel of power of the political and economic kind - the root cause of its travails. The crowd is stopped in its tracks by those who have plans for the city hall, for the presidential palace. We will not stop the crowd.' (Limonov, 'The Other Russia.') - translation mine. [07:06]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: You finish wasp yet? [07:07]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah, as Mr. Yarvin said, revolutions are when random adventurers seize power for their own ends [07:08]
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mircea_popescu hitler, stalin - never. << they were popular. [07:10]
mircea_popescu makes a shitload of a difference. [07:11]
asciilifeform naturally. [07:11]
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decimation I liked "the wasp", it was amusing [07:19]
decimation if you are trying to stir up a heap of trouble in a foreign land, occasional bombardment helps quite a bit [07:19]
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BingoBoingo decimation: Point is with the wrong support suicide mission stays suicide mission [07:22]
asciilifeform and speaking of wasp, [07:22]
asciilifeform http://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-eric-frein-police-citations-20141018-story.html#page=1 [07:22]
assbot Eric Frein manhunt wipes out speeding tickets, citations - The Morning Call [07:22]
decimation asciilifeform: so at least %15 of the pa state police are hunting for this guy? [07:24]
asciilifeform at least. [07:24]
asciilifeform and what fraction of the pencil pushers - devil knows [07:24]
mircea_popescu "C [07:24]
mircea_popescu urtis Gibbs of Allentown got a break this month when he went to court for allegedly slapping state Trooper Joe Bushta's horse during Musikfest." [07:24]
mircea_popescu i... beg your pardon ?! [07:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in most u.s. states, any case involving a policeman requires that he appear in person. [07:25]
asciilifeform (if he is alive.) [07:25]
mircea_popescu not my point. [07:25]
mircea_popescu my point is, you expect me to show up in court because a horse ?! [07:25]
asciilifeform ah, well, the other point. [07:25]
asciilifeform ask them. [07:25]
mircea_popescu get off your horse lmao [07:25]
asciilifeform because insulting his majesty's loyal servant, or such. [07:26]
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asciilifeform %15 << clearly pa needs 6 more freins. [07:27]
asciilifeform better, 66. [07:27]
BingoBoingo Where do I get a cylinder #5? [07:28]
asciilifeform i'd love a container-2. [07:29]
decimation BingoBoingo: as in a propane bottle? [07:29]
asciilifeform or -30 [07:29]
asciilifeform 2 contained Real Earthling Food [07:29]
BingoBoingo decimation: No, the one with a phone built in, Cylinder #22's third most important companion [07:29]
decimation BingoBoingo: oh you mean the book duh. I like cylinder 22 [07:30]
decimation yeah, if you are going to be a wasp with support, secure comms are pretty important [07:30]
BingoBoingo The problem though is support can be more dangerous than the enemy [07:30]
decimation heh yeah I half expected the book to end with the man dying at the end of the sights of a Terran space-marine [07:31]
BingoBoingo Imagine how many Wasps must have fallen to "friendly" infantry on first contact [07:31]
asciilifeform see also, required reading, 'mother night' (k. vonnegut) [07:31]
asciilifeform very similar theme. [07:31]
mircea_popescu The problem though is support can be more dangerous than the enemy << this is very true. french resisters had an ambiguous reputation with the foreign secret agents dropped in the field. [07:35]
decimation vonnegut was pissed that his father failed to bring him up in German culture, and dropped him in "one language English only" americanism << "But no, absolutely not – it was almost perverse, I think, that my father would cut me off from the past in such a way. And I think Germans are the most American of all people; [Dwight D.] Eisenhower was as American as a McDonald’s hamburger." http://www.hanknuwer.com/vonnegut.html [07:39]
assbot Kurt Vonnegut on Indianapolis, Kilgore Trout, and Dresden [07:39]
asciilifeform decimation: this is abundantly clear in the mentioned book [07:39]
mircea_popescu he definitely has a point. [07:39]
decimation I've only read slaugherhouse five, I'll have to pick that up [07:40]
decimation the germans in the us were basically cowed by the english into giving up their past so that they wouldn't be suspect during ww I&II [07:40]
asciilifeform http://schoolsites.schoolworld.com/schools/Cheltenham/webpages/rwilman/files/kurt%20vonnegut%20-%20mother%20night.pdf [07:42]
asciilifeform ^l33t w4r3z [07:42]
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decimation lol I love government-hosted warez [07:43]
BingoBoingo decimation: My present locale only had a german newspaper until 1917 [07:45]
BingoBoingo Schools similarly didn't have advanced classes in Ingles [07:46]
asciilifeform there are supposedly towns in usa speaking a kind of fossilized 18th c. german. [07:46]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#781802 [07:47]
assbot Logged on 02-08-2014 05:53:18; decimation: there is actually a small Germantown in America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_German [07:47]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Quite a few. Mostly in Missouri Arkansas and Texas [07:51]
asciilifeform there were once such germans in ussr, too. [07:51]
BingoBoingo Well, USSR had hunters... [07:52]
BingoBoingo I saw enemy at the gate... [07:52]
asciilifeform actually quite a few remained there until '90s [07:52]
decimation I have distant ancestors who lived in odessa, they were invited by Catherine the Great [07:52]
asciilifeform mostly moved to germany, afaik. [07:52]
BingoBoingo Hard to move to EU from Arkansas [07:53]
asciilifeform there were fully-functional german hamlets in, even, kazakhstan [07:53]
decimation well, many were rounded up and forcibly moved by the post wwii allies and stalin [07:53]
BingoBoingo Oh, there are fully functional hamlets in the Ozarks [07:53]
asciilifeform when do we get to hear about the micro-germanies of argentina. [07:54]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: When they finish the bomb [07:54]
BingoBoingo Argentine microGermanies are newer and moar urgent [07:54]
BingoBoingo And were formed on ideas stronger than Prussia sucks [07:56]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2014#569216 [07:56]
assbot Logged on 20-03-2014 01:13:02; decimation: In 1897, there lived 345 000 Germans in Ukraine, that was 4,2 % of the population. In 1911, there were 419 000 Germans. ... In spite of it, Germans played an important part in the Ukrainian culture life. Until 1914 many professors at Ukrainian universities were Germans. [07:56]
decimation it is sad that the world has largely lost this diaspora because of hitler's derpage [07:56]
asciilifeform what the anglos did to germany, will be remembered as -the- 20th c. crime. [07:58]
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decimation well, it was also partially done during the first world war too [07:59]
asciilifeform mostly then. [07:59]
asciilifeform in 1911, physics, chemistry, were practically as synonymous with germany as seppuku is with japan. [07:59]
decimation even in wwii german technology was generally superior [08:00]
BingoBoingo 1911 Forces my brain to think of the Colt pistol [08:01]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: now that you mention it, damn, also. [08:01]
decimation I heard from a fellow who was in charge of trying to duplicate german paint technology post-wwii. they were amazed to find german railcars painted 10 years earlier that looked new [08:01]
asciilifeform good symbol of american degradation incidentally. afaik all examples produced in past 20 years or so - have 'zamac' parts. [08:02]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: In American lore the only silent bullets happen in .45 ACP or .22 LR [08:02]
asciilifeform subsonics? [08:02]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Full power .45 ACP is subsonic by nature. [08:02]
BingoBoingo Tis a heavy motherfucker [08:02]
asciilifeform low-pressure by design, if i recall, yes. [08:02]
BingoBoingo But I dunno why anyone would go for a recent frame [08:03]
asciilifeform cost? [08:03]
BingoBoingo $300-Maxint, median seems aroung $1500 per pistol [08:03]
decimation well, and the kalash is based on the stg 44 [08:03]
BingoBoingo And if SKS came 6 months earlier Berlin would need no airlift [08:04]
asciilifeform decimation: misconception. study the drawings. very different systems. [08:04]
asciilifeform decimation: the cartridge - was. [08:04]
asciilifeform note - full machinist drawings for historic arms can, with minimal effort, be found on the net. [08:05]
asciilifeform someone even took the trouble to translate notes to english, in many cases. [08:05]
asciilifeform presumably - enthusiasts are making them still... [08:05]
decimation yeah they kinda look similar superficially. At least the stg44 proved the concept [08:06]
BingoBoingo someone even took the trouble to translate notes to english, in many cases. << Sad so long take for 9 letter dictionary [08:06]
asciilifeform ? [08:06]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Machining specs, Many numbers, but few units of measure [08:08]
mircea_popescu in 1911, physics, chemistry, were practically as synonymous with germany as seppuku is with japan. << this is true [08:08]
mircea_popescu philosophy still is. [08:08]
decimation yeah we haven't had a better kant come along yet [08:09]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: few units of measure << millimetre, what else you need. [08:09]
asciilifeform assuming ru/de/fr blueprints. [08:10]
mircea_popescu decimation not even what i had in mind. i think i ruined someone's life with frege earlier in the logs. [08:10]
asciilifeform lol! [08:10]
asciilifeform frege! [08:10]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well for blowback operated machines of the time it is whatever Browning himself deigned [08:11]
mircea_popescu yes. frege. gottlob "fuck you and count" frege. [08:11]
asciilifeform which other frege. [08:11]
asciilifeform but ruined? [08:11]
mircea_popescu ;;google hollywood frege [08:11]
gribble Frege - Westwood - Los Angeles, CA | Yelp: ; Ibrahim Frege - IMDb: ; Beate-Maria Frege - IMDb: [08:11]
mircea_popescu :D! [08:11]
BingoBoingo Fuku Fichte!!! [08:11]
mircea_popescu dude whahahah [08:11]
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BingoBoingo !UP Maryjane [08:12]
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decimation wittgenstein too, although he was austrian I think [08:12]
mircea_popescu i thought he was a swede. [08:12]
mircea_popescu no wait, puma swede was a swede. [08:12]
BingoBoingo Wittgenstein was late [08:12]
decimation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein [08:12]
assbot Ludwig Wittgenstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [08:12]
decimation he was a contemporary of frege [08:12]
decimation shit no [08:12]
mircea_popescu lol [08:12]
decimation I read the wrong year, born 1889 in veinna [08:12]
Maryjane Hi c: [08:12]
mircea_popescu i gotta say i love decimation's notion of time. [08:12]
mircea_popescu "sure, my wife got pregnant in 1972, so my kid is 12" [08:13]
mircea_popescu ello Maryjane [08:13]
BingoBoingo Maryjane: Hi, Wittgenstein was so fucking late [08:13]
decimation well, here's a notion: what happened in germany circa 1790-1890 that caused such great minds to mature to fruition? [08:13]
mircea_popescu decimation school beatings. [08:13]
mircea_popescu look it up. [08:13]
asciilifeform decimation: also good question, what -didn't- happen. [08:13]
Maryjane Hah [08:13]
mircea_popescu "you can do anything" [08:13]
mircea_popescu didn't happen. [08:14]
asciilifeform at any rate, the anglos did what they do best, and now there's a kind of stuffed animal with 'germany' sticker we have now instead to enjoy. [08:14]
mircea_popescu well, "we" [08:14]
asciilifeform 'we', yes [08:14]
BingoBoingo No mircea_popescu Twas you have no friends, all in Ohio hellhole nao, make meaning. That twas the Prussian renaissance [08:14]
asciilifeform the anglos - masters of taxidermy. [08:14]
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BingoBoingo Subtract bad influences [08:14]
BingoBoingo ;;google Johnny Cueto [08:15]
gribble Johnny Cueto Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com: ; Johnny Cueto Stats, News, Pictures, Bio, Videos - Cincinnati Reds ...: ; Johnny Cueto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [08:15]
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decimation mircea_popescu: have you visited any 'germanytowns' down there in ar yet? [08:17]
mircea_popescu nah. haven;t been out of ba. [08:17]
decimation lol wittgenstein tried to beat sense into schoolchildren, it didn't work [08:20]
mircea_popescu he didn't aim to kill them. [08:20]
mircea_popescu it only works if you're serious about it. [08:20]
Maryjane Oh golly c: [08:21]
asciilifeform abominably bad ocr in that vonnegut link btw. [08:21]
asciilifeform just in case anyone was considering reading it [08:21]
decimation I suspect that the impedence mismatch between his brain and the dull schoolboy's was too much to properly match [08:21]
mircea_popescu decimation this honestly is never a problem. [08:23]
mircea_popescu i found teaching idiots (literally, 70ish iq) a lot easier and more palatable than teaching "normal" kids. [08:23]
mircea_popescu in some environments, intelligence is a curse. you get just smart enough to be unvanquishibly dumb. [08:24]
decimation yeah, I guess I can see that. one would be more fustrated with the kid who seems to be able to get it, not the kid who is on the short bus [08:24]
Maryjane Hmm. [08:24]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2014#761497 [08:25]
mircea_popescu decimation moreover, the "smart" kid has all sorts of shit figured out [08:25]
assbot Logged on 19-07-2014 03:17:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams. [08:25]
mircea_popescu like, say, "what is a number" [08:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform dumb kids in opressive environments grow up into these most adorable adults. [08:26]
mircea_popescu it's only in the us that they are obnoxious enough to throw in the fire. [08:26]
asciilifeform adorable!?!?! [08:26]
mircea_popescu yes. [08:26]
asciilifeform dog emulator? [08:26]
mircea_popescu not quite. [08:26]
Maryjane Intelligence can be found on so many different levels though. [08:26]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Ferret emulator [08:26]
mircea_popescu im unequal to the task of explainign this one [08:26]
mircea_popescu Maryjane depends what you mean by that. [08:27]
Maryjane In movement of people who don't talk at all [08:27]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not quite dog, too independent, insufficienlty clever for dog [08:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no. [08:27]
BingoBoingo They exist though [08:27]
mircea_popescu you familiar with the scott story about their braveheart guy in a cave with a spider ? [08:27]
BingoBoingo No??? [08:27]
mircea_popescu guy in a cave with a spider, spider trying to do whatever shit and failing and trying again [08:27]
mircea_popescu a dozen fucking times [08:27]
mircea_popescu eventually manages [08:27]
mircea_popescu goes out of cave beats the shit out of the brits. [08:28]
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mircea_popescu there's something adorable about people who can't do things but keep trying endlessly. [08:28]
mircea_popescu dogs don't do that. spiders do. apparently some mice. [08:28]
asciilifeform sphex wasp. [08:28]
asciilifeform famously. [08:28]
Maryjane That's like me and heavy lifting. [08:29]
asciilifeform http://www.personalityresearch.org/evolutionary/sphexishness.html [08:29]
assbot Genetic Determinism--Sphexishness [08:29]
decimation there is an 'uncanny valley' between 'competent - will deliver' and 'hilariously inept' [08:29]
mircea_popescu aha. yeah. [08:29]
Maryjane It amuses everyone but myself [08:29]
Maryjane C: [08:29]
BingoBoingo Ah, that's why the scotties prefer their almost manul [08:29]
mircea_popescu decimation hilarity washes out after the say 100th attempt. [08:29]
asciilifeform who doesn't love the story of sisyphus. [08:29]
BingoBoingo As native mascot [08:29]
BingoBoingo who doesn't love the story of sisyphus. << Sisyphus [08:30]
asciilifeform well sure. [08:30]
mircea_popescu ha [08:30]
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agorecki Hmm? [08:35]
BingoBoingo agorecki: What is there to ponder you have voice and Obola has sweating blood? [08:35]
agorecki Obola? [08:36]
xanthyos BigBitz: according to camus, sisyphus did love it [08:36]
xanthyos BingoBoingo: ^^ [08:37]
asciilifeform i often refer to folks doing what sisyphus did, as 'syzzing' [08:37]
asciilifeform concept is so often met with, it deserves a name. [08:38]
xanthyos the futility of wiping your ass so perfectly when you're just going to take a shit tomorrow [08:38]
Maryjane Lol [08:39]
decimation asciilifeform: one runs into sisyphean tasks often in computer programming [08:41]
Maryjane I felt like sisyphus at my last job. But lifting 50lbs for 14 hrs isn't jolly work. Every time I grabbed one box there was another. [08:41]
asciilifeform at least the boxes were moving for a purpose. [08:42]
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Maryjane The pursuit of my bosses business. He was weird. [08:42]
Maryjane Strange man. [08:43]
asciilifeform what sort of business was he in? [08:44]
Maryjane Bees. He didn't like to bathe. I recall him saying "I like to stink. :)" [08:44]
decimation lol wittgenstein designed a house in Vienna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haus_Wittgenstein "I am not interested in erecting a building, but in [...] presenting to myself the foundations of all possible buildings." —Ludwig Wittgenstein[4] [08:45]
assbot Haus Wittgenstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [08:45]
Maryjane I thought it was fascinating how such an intelligent strange person didn't like to feel clean. Lol. [08:47]
Maryjane Beyond me. [08:47]
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decimation ;;ticker [09:01]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.84, Best ask: 392.26, Bid-ask spread: 1.42000, Last trade: 390.81, 24 hour volume: 6506.57594913, 24 hour low: 377.7, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 389.778279254 [09:01]
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RagnarDanneskjol ;;isup trilema.com [09:06]
gribble trilema.com is up [09:06]
RagnarDanneskjol not4me [09:06]
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BingoBoingo ;;isup qntra.net [09:16]
gribble qntra.net is up [09:16]
BingoBoingo ;;isupthedrinkingrecord.com [09:16]
gribble Error: "isupthedrinkingrecord.com" is not a valid command. [09:16]
BingoBoingo ;;isup thedrinkingrecord.com [09:16]
gribble thedrinkingrecord.com is down [09:16]
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BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/meanwhile-theyve-busted-out-the-tear-gas-in-morgantown-1648133309 [09:26]
assbot Meanwhile, They've Busted Out The Tear Gas In Morgantown [09:26]
BingoBoingo ^ West Fucking Virginia [09:26]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/10/moopay-goes-from-robusto-to-busto/ difficult to give a shit about these altcoin scams [09:34]
assbot Moopay Goes From Robusto To Busto | Qntra.net [09:34]
RagnarDanneskjol ;;isup qntra.net [09:36]
gribble qntra.net is up [09:36]
RagnarDanneskjol Gateway Timeout: can't connect to remote host [09:36]
cazalla fine here RagnarDanneskjol [09:37]
RagnarDanneskjol hmm [09:38]
cazalla you might need to check your browser settings and/or reset your modem [09:38]
RagnarDanneskjol yea doin it [09:39]
BingoBoingo Maybe consult the Manul? http://www.earthtouchnews.com/media/179015/06_02_2014_manul_Pallass-cat_1_GalleryLarge.jpg [09:43]
BingoBoingo %d [09:43]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327909.24 in 23 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.54 [09:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19299 @ 0.00073853 = 14.2529 BTC [+] {2} [09:45]
mats_cd03 docker is becoming a huge thing [09:46]
mats_cd03 ben_vulpes knows his trends [09:46]
mats_cd03 too bad nobody wants to talk about how its horridly vulnerable [09:46]
mircea_popescu Beyond me. <<< meet rms sometime. [09:48]
mircea_popescu was your boss affraid of cacti ? [09:49]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03> too bad nobody wants to talk about how its horridly vulnerable <<, but whatevs. [09:49]
mats_cd03 its rapidly being supported by a lot of varying devs [09:51]
mats_cd03 for example, did you know the windows 10 team is adopting fixes for ntoskrnl to make it work with docker? [09:51]
mats_cd03 its p huge, they never do things like that with the kernel. drivers maybe [09:52]
mats_cd03 vmware is also moving towards support for docker when they were adamant about it for months prior to the switcharoo [09:53]
mats_cd03 about avoiding it, that is [09:53]
BingoBoingo mats_cd03: So What is docker exactly is it like a FreeBSD Jail a decade late or... Closer to something like Zen? [10:00]
mats_cd03 http://azure.microsoft.com/blog/2014/10/15/new-windows-server-containers-and-azure-support-for-docker/ [10:00]
assbot New Windows Server containers and Azure support for Docker | Microsoft Azure Blog [10:00]
mats_cd03 http://ir.vmware.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=867568 [10:01]
assbot VMware Teams With Docker, Google and Pivotal to Simplify Enterprise Adoption of Containers (NYSE:VMW) [10:01]
mats_cd03 its basically OpenVZ and Solaris [10:02]
BingoBoingo mats_cd03: Does Docker have DTrace? [10:02]
mats_cd03 Solaris has had Zones for some time [10:02]
BingoBoingo Yes, I played with SOlaris zones and dtrace in 2004 on shitty computer lab printer [10:03]
BingoBoingo Printer because the computers were reset every day at midnight [10:03]
BingoBoingo Printer kept hours closer to my own [10:04]
mats_cd03 i don't know if it does, thats a good question [10:04]
BingoBoingo Solaris Zones are about as similar to BSD Jails though as Ext4 is to HAMMER@ [10:04]
BingoBoingo *HAMMER2 [10:05]
mats_cd03 DTrace does a lot [10:06]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 odd how that works ? [10:07]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes why do you like it again ? [10:08]
mats_cd03 SystemTap works at some level [10:08]
mats_cd03 mircea_popescu: the wheel being reinvented? [10:11]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 no, sudden adoption of stuff. [10:11]
mircea_popescu like, systemv. [10:11]
mircea_popescu "o hey guise, now that the bitcoin crowd has headshot'd our openssl holes, please everyone fuck up their init!" [10:12]
mats_cd03 thats an interesting perspective. [10:12]
mats_cd03 BingoBoingo: theres also sysdig, which is a relatively new thing. [10:13]
mats_cd03 ;;google sysdig github [10:13]
gribble draios/sysdig · GitHub: ; Home · draios/sysdig Wiki · GitHub: ; How to Install Sysdig from the Source Code · draios/sysdig ... - GitHub: [10:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.0007368 = 16.6517 BTC [-] {3} [10:13]
BingoBoingo mats_cd03: I feel safer running good ole Microsoft Xenix [10:15]
mats_cd03 its really incredible the kinds of things you can do with one liners in sysdig. [10:20]
mats_cd03 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7568175 [10:21]
assbot Sysdig vs DTrace vs Strace: a technical discussion | Hacker News [10:21]
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mats_cd03 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7705443 [10:23]
assbot Fishing for Hackers: Analysis of a Linux Server Attack | Hacker News [10:23]
cazalla https://twitter.com/Pierre_Rochard/status/523694007856406528 hilarious [10:23]
assbot /bitxbitxbitcoin /S_Murphy_PhD and /sovryntech help market and promote ponzi schemes http://t.co/cr6m7fuUuq [10:23]
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mats_cd03 Caleb Chen is an embarrassment. [10:25]
mats_cd03 so many of the chinese people in the english-speaking bitcoin universe are embarrassing, actually. [10:26]
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cazalla he seems to think because he accepted money to promote the ponzi, it means he is not at fault [10:28]
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BingoBoingo !up Vexual [10:28]
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BingoBoingo so many of the chinese people in the english-speaking bitcoin universe are embarrassing, actually. << Problem isn't Chinese so much as being monolingual. Renders a person helpless as an infant, but dangerous as an infant with Obola. [10:30]
BingoBoingo If a person is going to be monolingual though Chinese and English are the worst languages to pick [10:31]
BingoBoingo By how much their spaces have been overrun with Pidgin. [10:31]
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BingoBoingo To they point where they don't speak a language, but around a language [10:32]
BingoBoingo Ken Slaughter is a prime example of this. [10:32]
mats_cd03 http://www.linkedin.com/in/calebchen1 [10:34]
BingoBoingo cazalla: great piece http://qntra.net/2014/10/moopay-goes-from-robusto-to-busto/ [10:36]
mats_cd03 he claims to know en, cn, and es [10:36]
BingoBoingo en/cn is still the worst possible combo [10:37]
mats_cd03 i don't have any experience with the chinese nets but i agree it'd be just as filled with crap as the english net [10:37]
BingoBoingo With nearly identical problems. [10:38]
BingoBoingo Japanese nets though are weird as Japanese always is., [10:38]
BingoBoingo SOmehow in Japan NetBSD is serious Linux and WIndows competitor [10:39]
mats_cd03 they'll be moderately more prepared for the coming cyberwar/racewar/genderwars [10:41]
BingoBoingo Yeah [10:41]
BingoBoingo On their Vax Stations and PSOne's [10:41]
mats_cd03 on the subject of the cyberwar, if you ever wanna read about funny vulns stretching back to 2.1, 2.6, and 3.1, subscribe to some security mailing lists and filter for dan carpenter [10:42]
mats_cd03 dude drops buffer overflows like nobody's bidness [10:43]
BingoBoingo mats_cd03: I like that name. I have a Matt Carpenter baseball on my desk. [10:43]
mats_cd03 super casually. [10:43]
BingoBoingo Matt Carpenter hits Doubles like no one's business [10:44]
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mats_cd03 is the order of batters fixed in baseball? [10:45]
mats_cd03 like, can you switch it up in the middle of an inning. [10:45]
cazalla BingoBoingo, not reary, slow news day, i care little for the moopay moolah altcoin bullshit [10:45]
fluffypony I think it's hilarious [10:46]
BingoBoingo cazalla: But you keep it to the core issue of Ryan being a dipshit [10:46]
BingoBoingo %d [10:47]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327909.24 in 23 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.54 [10:47]
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mats_cd03 ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com [10:53]
gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is down [10:53]
mircea_popescu Caleb Chen is an embarrassment. << quite. [10:54]
mats_cd03 i shaved my balls today. insta regret. [10:54]
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BingoBoingo i shaved my balls today. insta regret. << Never shave the face beard all the way, never shave your scrote beard all the way [10:55]
mats_cd03 gotta get some gold bond tomorrow... [10:55]
mircea_popescu i shaved my balls today. insta regret. << not worth doing unless they're going straight into mouth [10:55]
mats_cd03 and with that it is sleepytime [10:56]
BingoBoingo i shaved my balls today. insta regret. << not worth doing unless they're going straight into mouth << All it takes is one time the balls going somewhere insufficiently clean for them and then you'll spends months at the doctors and hosptials retoring your scrote to health [10:57]
mats_cd03 but yes it was worth doing ... for about an hour [10:57]
mats_cd03 All it takes is one time the balls going somewhere insufficiently clean for them and then you'll spends months at the doctors and hosptials retoring your scrote to health << not even gonna ask [10:58]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo insufficiently clean for balls ?! [10:58]
mircea_popescu what's that, calcutta ? [10:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, Girls mouths culture things too. [10:58]
mircea_popescu dude, my balls are so clean you can eat off them [10:58]
mircea_popescu well not you per se. but chicks do it all the time [10:58]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [10:59]
mircea_popescu and this is why you keep multiple ballsuckers around. their cultures neutralize each other! [10:59]
mircea_popescu i call this [10:59]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: This is Illinois. Obola is on this continent [10:59]
mircea_popescu THE SCROTUM WARS [10:59]
BingoBoingo lol [10:59]
mircea_popescu side benefit of harem : if you're ever in a crowd you don't particularly enjoy, like no open tables or anything, just have the girls spend a few minutes spitting into each other's mouth. [11:00]
mircea_popescu all the dudes get huge tents and leave, all the chicks get grossed out and leave [11:00]
BingoBoingo Then what do I do with the axe??? [11:01]
mircea_popescu uh... [11:01]
mircea_popescu you sit on it ? [11:01]
BingoBoingo Seems reasonable. [11:01]
mircea_popescu better sit on an axe than have your shaved scrotum touch insufficiently clean stuff [11:03]
BingoBoingo For sure. [11:04]
BingoBoingo THe latter did Herod in. [11:04]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves thestringpuller hey is this YoYoYoYoYo thing any good ? [11:07]
BingoBoingo Everyone knows the Egyptians hated stray hair... [11:08]
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cazalla dats rasist! https://twitter.com/bitxbitxbitcoin/status/523747647585148928 [11:13]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: You might as well have accused him of being TradeFartress [11:20]
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mircea_popescu oookay, who wants to code a website for me ? [22:57]
thestringpuller mee mee [22:57]
bounce [insert text here [22:58]
bounce there you go [22:58]
mircea_popescu you serious ? i didn't know you could code... [22:58]
mircea_popescu bounce that's a html page. not quite the same. [22:58]
thestringpuller just a website? is it an app... [22:58]
bounce well, "websites" typically consiste of "webpages", so yeah. [22:58]
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mircea_popescu "who wants to make me a car ?" "here's a thing" "mmmkay" "no srsly, cars consist of things" [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9806 @ 0.00073807 = 7.2375 BTC [-] [23:01]
thestringpuller then you should say "I want functioning car. Ready to drive" [23:01]
thestringpuller "No assembly required" [23:02]
bounce so what is a website then, but a collection of pages, possibly numbering but one page? in fact, just one page (with loads of unnecessary javascript) is currently the trendy thing [23:02]
mircea_popescu jesus #bitcoin-philosophee [23:02]
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bounce nah, just sloppy spec. care to tighten it up? [23:02]
mircea_popescu once i hire someone, yes. spec's all in my head. [23:03]
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bounce ok. what sort of skills do you expect will be needed to "code" the things that go into making your car? [23:03]
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mircea_popescu well, just like with every one so far. the ability to roll a bot, the ability to handle gpg logins, produce webpages and maintain a database. [23:04]
mircea_popescu mp_requirements.h [23:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's this ? [23:05]
mircea_popescu i ain't tellin! [23:05]
asciilifeform ehe. [23:05]
mircea_popescu but it's no big deal. [23:05]
kakobrekla deedbot v3 [23:05]
mircea_popescu nope. [23:05]
asciilifeform where'd v2 go [23:05]
* kakobrekla just trollin [23:05]
mircea_popescu it is entirely unrelated to deedbot, which from what i understand punkman's almost done with anyway. [23:05]
mircea_popescu are ya p ? [23:05]
thestringpuller this sounds like a multiperson job ~_~ [23:07]
mircea_popescu then we need better persons. [23:07]
mircea_popescu the minimum bar for b-a coders is, persons for whom this is a one person job. [23:07]
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* bounce idly wonders whether a basic heroku instance can be made to maintain an irc connection. [23:07]
bounce but then you'd run into the gpg requirement [23:07]
thestringpuller is mpex a one person job ._. [23:07]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i did not say "secure bitcoinz" [23:08]
kakobrekla "but its just an app" [23:08]
kakobrekla or some shit [23:08]
mircea_popescu totally. [23:09]
kakobrekla oh i know what it is [23:09]
mircea_popescu bounce bot is supy anyway, proly best run a python back-end and interface with gpg in it [23:09]
kakobrekla you are building a ddos magnet! [23:10]
mircea_popescu but then again, i'm not known to argue about technical choices with technical leads. [23:10]
asciilifeform 'this is a one person job' but only mircea_popescu knows which 'this' ... ? [23:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so far. [23:10]
mircea_popescu hm, i just poured mineral water all over my box [23:11]
* asciilifeform still waiting for an actual computer offered for btc to which to move 'phuctor' [23:11]
mircea_popescu should i turn it off now ? [23:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: desktop? [23:11]
mircea_popescu yeh [23:11]
mircea_popescu well floortop [23:11]
asciilifeform nah [23:11]
asciilifeform what the hell happened to machine-for-btc outfits anyway [23:12]
asciilifeform even one remains? [23:12]
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asciilifeform or is this one of those 'you can't buy coffee with diamonds' affairs ? [23:12]
mircea_popescu !up piznit [23:12]
-assbot- You voiced piznit for 30 minutes. [23:12]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform apparently sysadmining is also poorly specified or somthin'. [23:13]
asciilifeform lol [23:13]
kakobrekla http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-atm-map/ [23:13]
assbot Bitcoin ATM Map - Find Your Nearest Bitcoin ATM [23:13]
kakobrekla supposedly? [23:13]
decimation http://cr.yp.to/talks/2014.10.18/slides-djb-20141018-a4.pdf [23:13]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: are these 'bitcoin atm' or simply usg meatprint collectors ? [23:13]
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kakobrekla usg interested in euro bills? [23:14]
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asciilifeform kakobrekla: map seems to include usa, hence question [23:14]
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kakobrekla for usg i cant speak [23:14]
kakobrekla usg/usa [23:15]
punkman is the log down? [23:15]
kakobrekla is it down? [23:15]
asciilifeform in eu one can set up 'atm' without demanding any account/kyc/etc crap ? [23:15]
mircea_popescu !up escu [23:15]
-assbot- You voiced escu for 30 minutes. [23:15]
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Escu up where? [23:15]
kakobrekla punkman if you cant open bb and/or logs you might be still banned [23:15]
Escu elou. [23:15]
kakobrekla pm me your ip [23:15]
mircea_popescu ello [23:16]
Escu how's you? [23:16]
asciilifeform decimation: good link. (though nothing earth-shattering, excellent primer for n00bs) [23:17]
mircea_popescu grand! [23:17]
mircea_popescu !s shanti dubai [23:17]
assbot 2 results for 'shanti dubai' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shanti+dubai [23:17]
Escu grand? [23:17]
mircea_popescu Escu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fzFaX5k9H0 << how about her tits. [23:17]
assbot Ajaz, Shanti Dynamite in 'I Luv Dubai' - YouTube [23:17]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah for the n00bs, it contains some informations on timing attacks [23:17]
mircea_popescu grand, is very good. [23:17]
punkman mircea_popescu: punkman's almost done with anyway. << aye, but you know things to bake, cunts to bite [23:18]
mircea_popescu do not bite the cunts! [23:18]
mircea_popescu that shit hurts [23:18]
punkman works for me [23:19]
Escu I am not into silicons. [23:19]
Escu sowwy [23:19]
mircea_popescu hehe [23:20]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/descent/ [23:20]
assbot Descent [23:20]
* oglafbot is now known as BingoBoingo [23:20]
Escu bite only the dicks. [23:21]
mircea_popescu that's not nice Escu ! [23:23]
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kakobrekla in eu one can set up 'atm' without demanding any account/kyc/etc crap ? < for now it seems: yes [23:25]
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punkman mircea_popescu: oookay, who wants to code a website for me ? << fired client on friday, interested [23:27]
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mircea_popescu punkman i hold on to it for ye till this deedboit thing's done ? [23:27]
punkman sure [23:27]
mircea_popescu well then stop biting cunts and get to work! [23:28]
asciilifeform 'Advertise 'cryptographic agility'; actually cryptographic fragility. Pretend that this 'agility' justifes using breakable crypto.' [23:31]
asciilifeform ( http://cr.yp.to/talks/2014.10.18/slides-djb-20141018-a4.pdf , good piece) [23:31]
mircea_popescu ^ [23:32]
mircea_popescu can it be not a pdf ? [23:32]
asciilifeform if somebody wants to clean it [23:32]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo if it ends up on qntra, i'd read it. [23:33]
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bounce needs a bit of editing for the re-rep-repe-repete-repetetive parts [23:39]
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mats_cd03 dunno how long it'll last, but for now i can feed USD into 'Lamassu' ATMs in Boston without ID [23:56]
mats_cd03 i've had difficulty buying more than 1BTC at a time though. it keeps telling me its empty. [23:56]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 afaf ? [23:56]
mircea_popescu lol [23:57]
mats_cd03 wat [23:57]
mats_cd03 ;;ud afaf [23:57]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Afaf | Afaf. 1) A beautiful green-eyed, fair skin girl with gorgeous dark hair. She is always kind and caring. 2) A women with a beautiful heart and soul. 3) Afaf- Arabic: ... [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00073662 = 13.5538 BTC [-] [23:57]
mats_cd03 asking for a friend? [23:57]
chetty haha, next they will prove astrology was right all along: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11171567/Season-of-birth-affects-your-mood-later-in-life.html [23:59]
assbot Season of birth affects your mood later in life - Telegraph [23:59]
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