Forum logs for 19 Feb 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform total losses how ? [00:00]
mircea_popescu no chicks [00:01]
BingoBoingo Early freshman year of college I was playing with slowaris and FreeBSD as serious computing solutions. Six years later I was contemplating upnade to windows 8 taken classes in VB.net for web applications because library school. [00:01]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Plenty of chicks for 4 of six years. [00:01]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: how does library school lead to forced winblows ? [00:04]
asciilifeform (i can see how, e.g., engineering school might) [00:04]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Web app development exercises [00:04]
BingoBoingo ANd earlier in undergrad orders to stop submitting hmework as beautifully printed Latex [00:05]
BingoBoingo Other library school particular onstacle to windows exodus is catalogging class with OCLC turd [00:06]
BingoBoingo Instructor was not very happy in cataloging class when I suggested I turn in my homework on cassette tape as it resembles the media most that MARC was made for. [00:08]
BingoBoingo I have yet to determine though whether "web application development" or "introduction to cataloguing" was worse for the soul. [00:10]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: How else do you disarm a population than by feedint its replacements shit and making them love it? [00:20]
asciilifeform really loved 'visual basic' ? [00:22]
BingoBoingo HATED, loathed. But it was the lingua class. [00:22]
BingoBoingo VB to MSSQL MADE ME FEEL like a polish jew [00:24]
ben_vulpes salud folks [00:26]
mircea_popescu lol [00:26]
mircea_popescu yo foxy. [00:27]
ben_vulpes ca va [00:27]
ben_vulpes this healthcare thing is a shitshow but i think i found the hack [00:28]
ben_vulpes 440/mo for 2 [00:28]
ben_vulpes max out of pocket (as if that can be trusted): 6k [00:28]
ben_vulpes max hsa contribution for 2: 6k [00:28]
mircea_popescu welcome mr joe stack v2.0 [00:28]
ben_vulpes haw no you see i'm the broker in these relationships [00:28]
mircea_popescu aok [00:29]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: You are they guy who doesn't realize he isn't even shoveling coal [00:29]
mircea_popescu come to b-a to share your tax shelter glory, leave a sad, broken man. [00:29]
BingoBoingo !b 1 [00:30]
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ben_vulpes this is the one small win in my life [00:31]
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ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-02-2015#1022104 [00:31]
assbot Logged on 17-02-2015 06:15:04; ben_vulpes: 'fyiad' << worst part about living here is the misery endured to scrape food credits together [00:31]
ben_vulpes i do, i am. [00:31]
ben_vulpes some day i may yet escape. [00:31]
mircea_popescu PeterL: and I hate the question "how much did your last job pay, and what do you expect to get paid"? << "A lot of money, and I am open for an excellent offer." [00:31]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: that's a hack?! lol [00:32]
ben_vulpes best hole i've found yet. [00:32]
ben_vulpes i'm not really working too hard at it, tbh. [00:32]
ben_vulpes easier to drive incomes up than expenses down. [00:32]
ben_vulpes hard lower bounds etc [00:32]
BingoBoingo ;; later tell PeterL : PeterL: and I hate the question "how much did your last job pay, and what do you expect to get paid"? << "A lot of money, and I am open for an excellent offer." << Sigma charges $336/gram for blow... get in on that shit. [00:34]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:34]
mircea_popescu jurov: "any number of small independent problems can be solved by one complex interdependent solution" << basic retard motto. "solve everything throiug the group yo! socialism ftw!" [00:34]
BingoBoingo easier to drive incomes up than expenses down. << You would be surprised [00:34]
mircea_popescu he's got a woman. [00:35]
ben_vulpes and a dog. [00:35]
ben_vulpes and you know... [00:35]
ben_vulpes plans [00:35]
ben_vulpes fuck this country. [00:35]
ben_vulpes give it three years i won't be able to get the hypothetical children on a plane because the measles risk from unvaccinated retards is too high. [00:36]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: P(meeting with unvaccinated retard) * P(kid's vaccine failed to take) [00:37]
asciilifeform well, unvaccinated infected retard [00:38]
ben_vulpes factor for kids 1..i? [00:39]
ben_vulpes i suppose loss cost goes down as a function of herd size [00:39]
ben_vulpes risk of bad time = Σ Pr * Pvfi, i=1..n [00:40]
ben_vulpes i've forgotten all of my probability mafs. [00:40]
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decimation ben_vulpes: yeah the high deductible/hsa hack is a good deal [00:42]
decimation hsas are generally very good tax shelters [00:42]
ben_vulpes i plan to burn the whole thing down this year. [00:42]
decimation my company has 10k deductible, 6k hsa contribution, and 4k 'hra' [00:42]
decimation was cheaper than 6k deductible [00:42]
ben_vulpes !up thestringpuller [00:43]
ben_vulpes bezzlenomics [00:43]
decimation yeah [00:43]
ben_vulpes i don't get it, nor do i want to. [00:43]
ben_vulpes sound money when. [00:43]
decimation 'hsa' is the only tax free money you can withdraw before retirement [00:43]
* danielpbarron is one of the unvaccinated retards [00:43]
decimation as long as you have a 'health expense' [00:43]
decimation danielpbarron: because of autism? [00:44]
decimation roth you can only withdraw contributions [00:44]
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danielpbarron because of the uncomfortably high chance of acute brain infection leading to permanent damage [00:44]
decimation there are some who transfer traditional ira/401k to roth, and then withdraw the 'contributions' after 5 years [00:44]
ben_vulpes i need that liquidity, yo. [00:44]
decimation umm [00:44]
danielpbarron and a general distrust of anything medicine in the USSA [00:44]
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decimation do you have a number for 'high chance' [00:45]
danielpbarron 1 in 10k or something [00:45]
decimation when the salk vaccine came out, it gave 40k people polio [00:45]
decimation and was still considered a miracle [00:46]
mike_c hm, maybe the acute brain infection will improve your situation [00:47]
danielpbarron i've got enough brain damage, thank you [00:48]
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BingoBoingo Serious gambling talk though. Greater than 1:100 odds unvaccinated against measles kids are going to get brain damage. Encephalitis is a bitch. [00:50]
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BingoBoingo fuck this country. << Pls tell me you have a Mosin [00:53]
gribble Marin mom lashes back at 'measles party' media furor - SFGate: ; Pox party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Do Not Bring Your Kids To 'Measles Parties,' Doctors Warn: [00:54]
trinque BingoBoingo: I have; he can head this way when tshtf [00:54]
BingoBoingo oh get out. << Chickenpox, fuck it. Measles, I'll take a 25% return on bitches knocked up [00:54]
BingoBoingo when the salk vaccine came out, it gave 40k people polio << k vs M situation [00:56]
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danielpbarron mass vaccination is like the systemd of medicine. >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2015#1024081 [00:58]
assbot Logged on 18-02-2015 23:58:45; jurov: "any number of small independent problems can be solved by one complex interdependent solution" [00:58]
BingoBoingo because of the uncomfortably high chance of acute brain infection leading to permanent damage << Why I don't get measles chickenpox comparisons "But they both itch" [00:59]
mircea_popescu fwiw, measles vaccine is usually useful and effectual. [00:59]
mircea_popescu it's bs like zona zooster and flu "vaccine" that ruin the otherwise reasonable shit for everyone. [01:00]
BingoBoingo it's bs like zona zooster and flu "vaccine" that ruin the otherwise reasonable shit for everyone. << That [01:00]
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danielpbarron fwiw i probably have all the vaccines you guys are harping about; my parents don't share my views in this regard [01:01]
mircea_popescu now people won't get polio vaccine because "vaccines are bad". dumb shit like that. [01:01]
BingoBoingo MMR great, live microwaved polio great. Herpes Zoster... prolly still getting Tony Larussa Shingles [01:01]
mircea_popescu the other thing is, they give vaccines to 2 hour olds, which is also fucking dumb. [01:01]
mike_c not most of them [01:01]
mike_c which is one reason herd protection is important, which is why danielpbarron is trying to kill my children. [01:02]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [01:02]
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danielpbarron i don't buy that at all; if your kid has the stupid thing then he should be safe [01:02]
BingoBoingo My position in this is that unidentified proteins must be assumed evil. [01:03]
trinque two generations out of a high child mortality rate and people think they're bulletproof [01:04]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you/ << Prolly the best qntra so far. Imminently applicable to bio chamistry [01:04]
danielpbarron i think a better solution is to hide sick people away, checking in on them every week and not letting them return to society until the illness is gone [01:04]
assbot Your Disk Controller and You | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQov6k ) [01:04]
mike_c the vaccine isn't 100%. i'm not that crazy about it though. i figure a few more outbreaks and this no-vaccince fad will go away quickly. [01:04]
mike_c people will stop taking medical advice from jenny whats-her-name [01:05]
BingoBoingo i think a better solution is to hide sick people away, checking in on them every week and not letting them return to society until the illness is gone << You forget water is one dirty bitch [01:05]
danielpbarron hide them in the desert [01:05]
danielpbarron "but i have a right to go shopping even when i'm contagious!" [01:07]
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BingoBoingo I have a right to kill all with fire [01:08]
BingoBoingo Rights is exactly the wrong argument here [01:09]
asciilifeform the funny part is that it is mostly the children of the less-poor (california, clustered around enclaves of mega-bezzle) who are dropping [01:09]
BingoBoingo the funny part is that it is mostly the children of the less-poor (california, clustered around enclaves of mega-bezzle) who are dropping << This part, also vermont which threatens dpb directly [01:10]
danielpbarron https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+13&version=NKJV [01:10]
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assbot Leviticus 13 NKJV - The Law Concerning Leprosy - And the - Bible Gateway ... ( http://bit.ly/19zCCmd ) [01:10]
mike_c <+BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you/ << Prolly the best qntra so far. << I agree. awesome article asciilifeform. [01:11]
assbot Your Disk Controller and You | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/19zCP8X ) [01:11]
asciilifeform glad somebody got something out of it [01:11]
asciilifeform it was actually missing most of its intended 2nd half [01:11]
asciilifeform because i simply got tired and started to fall asleep. [01:11]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Qntra is always open to 1st half rants from you [01:11]
decimation http://www.wired.com/2015/02/tech-companies-and-vaccines/ << google and cisco day cares have less than 70% rate [01:12]
assbot The Sickeningly Low Vaccination Rates at Silicon Valley Day Cares | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/19zDaIH ) [01:12]
asciilifeform wrote it specifically because BingoBoingo asked [01:12]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: And the result is still unparalleled in the tech press [01:12]
asciilifeform to go with the plague thread - it was meant to be a summary, of sorts, of the pathology; [01:13]
asciilifeform but ended up being 'don't play with rotting corpses in the streets' [01:13]
decimation I would bet that if you asked the parents of the non-vaccinated, they would say that they want to 'prevent autism' [01:13]
BingoBoingo Pathology threads are generally best threads [01:13]
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BingoBoingo I would bet that if you asked the parents of the non-vaccinated, they would say that they want to 'prevent autism' << For a period of time my parents thought they autism'd me with vaccines [01:14]
decimation perhaps 'geek parents' having children at >35 has something to do with the autism rates [01:16]
BingoBoingo Perhaps, also could be an overextension of labels [01:17]
decimation yeah 'overdiagnosis' is probably a problem too [01:18]
BingoBoingo I tend towards much of the "diagnosis" that begets pathology not being such at all [01:19]
decimation well, as has been covered by tlp, there is much profit to be made in labeling pathologies [01:20]
BingoBoingo Or labeling not-pathologies [01:21]
decimation aye [01:21]
mike_c ;;later tell mircea_popescu you might as well put my name on the wot job. looks like i'm doing it. [01:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:21]
decimation if I were a psychiatrist I would be all about treating 'needy' suburbanites rather than being part of the urban internal security service [01:22]
mircea_popescu mike_c aite. [01:22]
asciilifeform decimation: even if napoleon wrote that 'every soldier's knapsack must contain a fieldmarshall's baton', not everyone can be fieldmarshal [01:23]
asciilifeform someone - gets to be urban shrink [01:23]
mircea_popescu mike_c done! [01:23]
mircea_popescu decimation you gotta talk their language tho, which dirties the soul. [01:24]
decimation asciilifeform: true. it would pay for daily bread anyway [01:24]
BingoBoingo I'm still jsut amazed by the difference between 8 yo scared of other people and labeled autistm-ish vs. HS lots of social connections constantly tired West nile and no one cares [01:24]
decimation mircea_popescu: yeah it would be depressing either way [01:24]
decimation there is a funny thing about 'professions'. if you like to kill animals, being a vet is a great idea [01:25]
decimation if you like hurting people, become a surgeon [01:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: you can't draw a circuit on a sheet of copper with nonconductive glue either... << don't oppress my genius! if you CUT the copper and the substrate is Conveniently Chosen (TM) it might work! [01:25]
mircea_popescu who are you to say what drunken future brings! [01:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: funnily: diametric, i think, might be making a pcb this way as we speak [01:26]
BingoBoingo who are you to say what drunken future brings! << I'll volunteer to take point on this [01:26]
asciilifeform (milling away excess) [01:26]
mircea_popescu aha [01:26]
asciilifeform it is a fairly popular method for making small/simple pcb [01:26]
decimation there are a few cnc machines marketed for this purpose [01:27]
asciilifeform when you have a cnc mill but don't feel like screwing with photography [01:27]
decimation although I would not want to breathe the copper/fiberglass fumes [01:27]
asciilifeform decimation: milling's usually done in a specially-designated place regardless [01:27]
BingoBoingo although I would not want to breathe the copper/fiberglass fumes << Better than cold sea sponge farts [01:27]
decimation hehe [01:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: 'if wish were horse' etc << if wish were whores they'd be hoarse for the horses ? [01:28]
asciilifeform whores for the horses. [01:28]
decimation re: milled pcb < I wonder if they would be a pain in the ass to solder [01:28]
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asciilifeform decimation: no solder mask [01:28]
decimation nothing really beats 'solder mask' for that purpose [01:28]
asciilifeform so, as i said, very simple through-hole boards [01:28]
decimation yeah [01:28]
BingoBoingo "Soldier Mask" [01:29]
* asciilifeform when makes pcb at home, uses the ancestral method - like b&w photo [01:29]
decimation that honestly seems easier than milling [01:29]
decimation plus it really isn't all that toxic [01:30]
asciilifeform when lacking a cnc mill, definitely easier... [01:30]
asciilifeform variably toxic depending on your etchant [01:30]
decimation I suspect it yields finer geometry too [01:30]
asciilifeform now that is certain. [01:30]
mircea_popescu the phone in toaster guy is clearly shopping on the wrong silkroad clone. [01:30]
asciilifeform although some folks with uncommonly fine mills get similar result [01:30]
decimation 'uncommonly fine mill' would pay for much etchant [01:31]
asciilifeform usually it's folks who own a mill anyway. [01:31]
decimation I would be interested if you could feel a blank pcb and a pile of random parts into a machine, press the magic button, and pop out an assembled board [01:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: 'The backplanes contain 230 cards, approximately 10,148 diodes, 1409 transistors, 5615 resistors, and 1674 capacitors. Cards only used for interconnect were not counted.' << the important point is element miniaturization then vs now. at the time, 1k transistors > 100 lbs. today, 1k tranzistors < 1oz. [01:32]
mircea_popescu this is important for many reasons, it has cascade effect : shorter paths, less heat etc etc. [01:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what transistor are you thinking of ? [01:33]
mircea_popescu a pdp could probably be cloned today by hand in a finite timespan, fit in box. [01:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the 2 gram shits i had as a kid ? [01:33]
asciilifeform if it's of the kind one can individually hold in a hand, they are quite the same [01:33]
asciilifeform aha those [01:33]
mircea_popescu no they're not! [01:33]
mircea_popescu you kidding me, the thing had glass diodes. [01:33]
decimation if you allow logic gate ic's you could reduce the transistor count [01:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu is thinking of soviet-style metal 'tin can' transistor as being used in the pdp, and is correct [01:34]
mircea_popescu but foir the sake of argument, made by hand from discrete semi parts. [01:34]
BingoBoingo PDP could be cloned in 1990 on Classic Game Boy [01:34]
mircea_popescu still they're 1k ligther today than in 1940 [01:34]
mircea_popescu 1k times [01:34]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: we were considering discrete transistors [01:34]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: as in, 'non-integrated' circuit [01:34]
mircea_popescu disintegrated circuit lol [01:35]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed In am consiering diving boarda [01:35]
BingoBoingo *boards [01:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: one can get bare-die transistors [01:35]
asciilifeform is probably what one would use. [01:35]
mircea_popescu probably. [01:35]
mircea_popescu just sayin, you know ? could prolly be made in a box, if one felt like placing 100k items by hand. if he works 8 hours a day at this, it won't take 10 years. [01:35]
asciilifeform place the dies, obviously, robotically [01:36]
BingoBoingo File this in reasons I did not make a nubrub for my OBSD bitcoin-qt build [01:36]
asciilifeform (helps if there's some redundancy) [01:36]
mircea_popescu well die transistors autoplaced is prolly about on par with making yourself a 3d gun that works. [01:36]
BingoBoingo well die transistors autoplaced is prolly about on par with making yourself a 3d gun that works. << Mosin, never lost to itself [01:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: arbitrarily fine placement is mainly a question of the guidance optics [01:37]
mircea_popescu or how many chinese girls one has. [01:38]
asciilifeform the mechanicals can be driven with astonishingly small steps, as is [01:38]
mircea_popescu but principally optics. [01:38]
asciilifeform folks routinely carry out 'surgeries' on single cells [01:38]
asciilifeform the equipment involved is scarcely even electric [01:38]
asciilifeform (led light, mainly) [01:38]
decimation asciilifeform: are you imagining a little array of naked die transistors, being bonded by a robot? [01:39]
asciilifeform and who has not heard of craftsmen 'horseshoeing the flea' etc [01:39]
asciilifeform decimation: i imagined it years ago [01:39]
asciilifeform but turns out other folks like to imagine it too [01:39]
asciilifeform if using products of existing industry, i'd use something like a 'GAL' (on bare die also) [01:40]
asciilifeform rather than naked transistor [01:40]
decimation it's kind like the 'punch-out' fpga we were discussing [01:41]
asciilifeform too small, gatewise, for enemy to meaningfully diddle [01:41]
asciilifeform or to conceal specs of [01:41]
asciilifeform but considerable step over transistor [01:41]
BingoBoingo alf finds this a mystery wonder why library school sucks [01:41]
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BingoBoingo Short answer all the DB's are fucked [01:42]
asciilifeform but if 'playing fairly' and using the kind of semiconductors one could hope to produce in jungle workshop, you won't have identically-specced tileable bare dies either... [01:42]
BingoBoingo but if 'playing fairly' and using the kind of semiconductors one could hope to produce in jungle workshop, you won't have identically-specced tileable bare dies either... << One would rip and sell Gameboy and TI-86 ROMs [01:42]
decimation no, but if you could buy your dies at costco, the enemy would have trouble diddling [01:42]
asciilifeform decimation: a diddled die of 100 gates in a tiled matrix will do what, exactly ? [01:43]
asciilifeform fail when moon is full ? [01:43]
decimation heh yeah that's my point [01:44]
asciilifeform it cannot know where in the circuit it will be placed [01:44]
mircea_popescu ^ [01:44]
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mircea_popescu this is a very importanrt point, alf made for qntra but generally gets neglected. "diddling" is a VERY assumptive operation. [01:44]
mircea_popescu sister to "jamming AN antenna" [01:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i sat down originally to write the piece specifically about that [01:44]
mircea_popescu aha. [01:45]
asciilifeform but somehow didn't [01:45]
decimation jamming AN antenna? [01:45]
mircea_popescu i say it, you say it, five people grok it and everyone else just whooosh. [01:45]
mircea_popescu decimation generally, as opposed to a speciffic one. [01:45]
decimation ah I see [01:45]
asciilifeform the ancient ru proverb re: 'for every sly arse, there's a threaded cock' is the relevant one [01:45]
decimation yes, the problem of 'jamming' arbitrary comms (unknown to the designer) is quite difficult [01:45]
asciilifeform the cock thread - has to match [01:46]
mircea_popescu and so is the problem of "diddling" in the general case. [01:46]
asciilifeform the thread-will-meet-the-arse-correctly-but-without-foreknowledge is called 'intelligence' and folks call any solution that calls for it 'ai-complete' [01:47]
asciilifeform which is possibly the only verdict more dire than 'np-complete' [01:47]
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asciilifeform when you are discussing a particular bullet fired by the enemy, rather than enemy per se, you may safely assume that it is not intelligent, and thus is the cock of particular rather than universal thread. [01:48]
asciilifeform that's roughly it. [01:48]
mircea_popescu "The results were overwhelming: 88 percent of women reported having experienced at least one incident in which their friendliness was misinterpreted as sexual interest by a man, and on average it had occurred about 3.5 times in the last year alone. Men also reported experiencing sexual misperception, but the rate — 70.6 percent — was far lower. These rates were pretty similar to what was found in the original, U.S. [01:48]
mircea_popescu -based study, which found that around 90 percent of women reported that their friendliness had been misperceived at least once in their lifetimes, on average 2.7 times in the last year, with about 70 percent of men reporting having experienced this." [01:48]
mircea_popescu overwhelming my foot. [01:48]
mircea_popescu a) the difference is not even significantly above statistical noise ; b) significant fudge, such as, "women are more likely to self-flatter themselves this particular way" not accounted for in ANY manner. [01:49]
mircea_popescu how about asking men and women about how many cases they themselves witnessed involving OTHER people ? [01:49]
mircea_popescu but no, why make a study that makes sense but doesn't support our chosen policy nonsense. [01:49]
decimation that would be hard, and besides men are bad [01:49]
mircea_popescu hard my foot, ask the same people a useful question instead of a dumb one. [01:50]
mircea_popescu Sofia Lyons / nymag are dumb. [01:50]
mircea_popescu Mons Bendixen as well. [01:51]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: related dan mocsny - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VKvDDSaH [01:51]
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asciilifeform (related how? in context - missing from archive - of that thread, he theorized that the behaviour spoken of therein was due to the 'misinterpreted' thing mentioned here) [01:52]
mircea_popescu "When a man sees another man he doesn’t know, there isn’t usually that studied indifference. If you look at the guy, he’ll look at you back, and it’s obvious from his body language that he knows you exist and you could talk to him if you wanted to." [01:53]
mircea_popescu my experience is exactly contrary to this, ftr. [01:53]
mircea_popescu women do what he claims men do, and vice-versa. [01:53]
asciilifeform might depend on where [01:53]
mircea_popescu "Obvious things like sports always work." fuck me sideways. i never did that yet. [01:53]
* asciilifeform lives where people behave roughly like mocsny described [01:54]
mircea_popescu odd. [01:54]
mircea_popescu because i lived around where you live. [01:54]
decimation yeah that's my experience too [01:54]
mircea_popescu "Go to a gym, for example, and see how few of the dozens of men and women there are actually talking to each other." who the fuck wants to talk to some guy in a gym wtf. [01:55]
mircea_popescu go to the sauna. [01:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, mocsiny should move to argentina. these derps have no fucking problem striking conversations with complete strangers that take any length of time in spite of not having any content. [01:57]
asciilifeform female derps?! [01:57]
mircea_popescu middle of the street ? fine. clerk and person in supermarket queue ? fine. fucking policeman will stop mid arrest and chat with the victim for half an hour. [01:57]
mircea_popescu gender indiscriminate. [01:57]
asciilifeform l0l [01:58]
* asciilifeform must see this [01:58]
mircea_popescu bus driver with person that just got on, that they never met before ? fuck traffic, they're only doing 60 mph in the middle of town in a sardine box. [01:58]
mircea_popescu what's that! [01:58]
decimation heh "People who enjoy going to stadiums and cheering on their sports heroes are feeding the monster which torments their genetically disadvantaged offspring." < so true [01:59]
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BingoBoingo * asciilifeform lives where people behave roughly like mocsny described << You are double fucked. Negro and the turdmaster... [02:13]
BingoBoingo RGIII has not been kind [02:13]
* asciilifeform puzzled by this reference [02:13]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: RGIII is the strong plowhand carrying you local foosball [02:14]
BingoBoingo RGIII was indeed the physical equivalent of a -CURRENT branch until... his knees [02:15]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: aha - i was referring to the earlier mocsny quote [02:20]
asciilifeform rather than the thing about sportsmen [02:20]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But the root of their surivival is determined by the same fat men [02:21]
BingoBoingo I merely hypothesize RGIII as inpet enough to miss mocsony's men definitiomn [02:24]
decimation http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/alien-neill-blomkamp-set-for-new-film-in-iconic-sci-fi-franchise/ < lol. maybe the Aliens will be derpy rhodesians who crowd around in slums [02:27]
assbot ‘Alien': Neill Blomkamp set for new film in iconic sci-fi franchise | Hero Complex – movies, comics, pop culture – Los Angeles Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1EUo0XY ) [02:27]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Still when I look at teams to be on for the next year I consider the players they own paramount. [02:31]
BingoBoingo Washington tend to fuck this step up royally [02:32]
decimation asciilifeform: http://www.hanssummers.com/ocxokit.html << you can build your own ovenized reference clock in an oven for $15! [02:38]
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decimation the guy's solution was pretty clever - build an oven out of fr4! [02:38]
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decimation http://stampd.io/ << someone made a silly-con valley-ized deedbot [03:01]
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punkman http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovo-caught-installing-adware-new-computers/ [04:40]
assbot Lenovo Caught Installing Adware On New Computers ... ( http://bit.ly/1AnwxC1 ) [04:40]
mircea_popescu i wonder how much money that nets them [04:41]
punkman can be lucrative [04:41]
punkman there's a lot of malware that just replaces ads on google/facebook/etc [04:42]
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punkman users generally don't notice it [04:42]
punkman although I don't see how it's worth Lenovo's time [04:43]
mircea_popescu so if they sold 1mn computers and 1bn ads got replaced somehow that's worth... umm... 50 bux ? [04:43]
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punkman I knew a guy that had a couple browser toolbars/plugins that replaced ads. He made $500-1000 per day for quite a while. [04:46]
mircea_popescu in 2003 ? [04:47]
punkman more like 2010 [04:47]
mircea_popescu moar power to him. [04:47]
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mircea_popescu jurov: lol good discussion started from the z80. now, what if we start with piece of germanium/galena/carborundum/whatever << si carbide prolly most promising, or maybe some particular graphite formulations. [18:28]
mircea_popescu jurov: if it's possible to place 4 such transistors on mm2 then z80 would fit into 20cm2 << this, basically, is my point. 20 sqcm is not really a big deal. and the number of people who might do it just to play the original Chaos on their pet rock is not negligible. [18:29]
ascii_field unfortunately, need more than transistors [18:31]
mircea_popescu ALSO major point : it doesn't have to be successful. [18:31]
mircea_popescu what i mean is : currently, the fabs regard a printer that ruins 1% of the sheets as disastrous. [18:31]
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mircea_popescu in our case, if 1% of the sheets are printed correctly, we're golden [18:31]
mircea_popescu people would do it like they hunt for pokemons [18:31]
mircea_popescu that inversion really gives a lot of tolerance space. [18:32]
ascii_field gives it a chinese 'great leap forward backyard steel furnace' flavour though. [18:32]
mircea_popescu so it does. [18:32]
mircea_popescu understand : reversing the secular trend from "Factory" to "household" is worth pretty much any sacrifice. [18:32]
mircea_popescu it's not me speaking, it's god! [18:33]
ascii_field sure [18:33]
ascii_field but has to not only at least occasionally work, [18:33]
ascii_field but actually not depend on industrial outputs [18:33]
ascii_field otherwise it's an exercise in pashtun kalash-making [18:33]
mircea_popescu not depend on NON COMMODIFIED industrial outputs. [18:33]
ascii_field (you have the rifle, but izhevsk still has the shells) [18:33]
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mircea_popescu one step at a time. [18:33]
mircea_popescu as long as the industiral output you use holds no ip, it's good. [18:34]
mircea_popescu we want to kill the ip-in-product thing first, then the rest is unsustainable/can't mount any resistance. [18:34]
ascii_field if that's the object, can use ttl 74xxxx logic [18:35]
mircea_popescu prolly. [18:35]
ascii_field it 1) made everywhere, even ussr 2) utterly standardized 3) 'does not know where it will be plugged in' [18:35]
ascii_field i must say, always wanted to build a 'bitslice cpu' [18:36]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell brendafdez: Could summer morning here in buenos aires today << wait, you're in ba ? [18:38]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:38]
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mircea_popescu most of which don't even exist like coinmelon (refered to by mp as coinmuon bc of the sign at the doorbell) << ahahaha wut, wait, the mystery is demystified ? [18:39]
mircea_popescu muon was really melon ? [18:39]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2015#1024576 << lol this chick's sense of humour... [18:40]
assbot Logged on 19-02-2015 11:57:09; brendafdez: Having the adware preinstalled sort of spares the user the time and ensures they get a consistent experience with a box compromised from the get go. It's an integral part of the user experience, they wouldn't feel right without the bloat and the ads. [18:40]
cazalla danielpbarron: my throat is now sore from yelling <<< try breaking something :P [18:41]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the one utterly unsolved problem is ram [18:41]
mircea_popescu so it is. [18:41]
mircea_popescu lol yea, like cazalla's... ipad. [18:42]
ascii_field none of the contemplated processes threaten to give you anything like '80s micro capacity [18:42]
ascii_field i've contemplated a revival of delay-line memories using modern high-frequency amps [18:42]
mircea_popescu ascii_field could one simply hijack ssds ? [18:42]
mircea_popescu as in, replace the controller. [18:42]
ascii_field hijack ? [18:42]
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-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [18:43]
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ascii_field ty [18:43]
mircea_popescu np np [18:43]
ascii_field one can buy raw nand flash [18:43]
mircea_popescu ok. so then make a sane addressing scheme, and put a controller in and that's that. [18:43]
mircea_popescu memory = disk, like in the good old days. [18:43]
ascii_field but this turns into a very different flavour of project [18:43]
mircea_popescu make the chips hotswappable, too, by default. [18:43]
ascii_field machine that can't be boobied - yes. ic fab on your desk - no [18:44]
mircea_popescu imagine alf! a memory scheme which allows you to shoot at the memory units, and add more as you wish without kernel panic. [18:44]
ascii_field sop in rad-hard machines [18:44]
mircea_popescu yup [18:44]
ascii_field (erasure code in ram controller) [18:44]
mircea_popescu im not saying it's new. im saying it is time to get home computing out of the 1950s . [18:44]
ascii_field i'd generalize to everything being tandem-able by default [18:45]
mircea_popescu ideally. [18:45]
ascii_field (n-of-m voting scheme) [18:45]
mircea_popescu so the one day you need moar memory ? YOU BORROW SOME [18:45]
mircea_popescu like in thefucking old days #2 [18:45]
ascii_field aha, sop in ibm 'big iron' [18:45]
mircea_popescu yup [18:45]
ascii_field now bringing things back to my original boojum - you can't drive sdram with 74xxxx ttl. [18:46]
ascii_field it can't be asked to go arbitrarily slowly. [18:46]
PeterL why not? [18:46]
ascii_field gotta match the refresh upper bounds [18:46]
ascii_field or lose bits. [18:46]
ascii_field in milliseconds. [18:46]
mircea_popescu ascii_field you can layer them [18:47]
ascii_field !s sdram [18:47]
assbot 14 results for 'sdram' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sdram [18:47]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: can't layer dram [18:47]
mircea_popescu no the ttl. [18:47]
ascii_field like sampler on cheap oscope ? [18:47]
mircea_popescu any arbitrary frequency can be met out of an arbitrary count of components. [18:47]
ascii_field possibly [18:47]
mircea_popescu no. like a timed array. [18:47]
ascii_field well yes, that's how my chinese scope gets a 100MHz sampler using 20MHz chinese ADCs [18:48]
mircea_popescu aha ok. [18:48]
mircea_popescu then like! [18:48]
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mircea_popescu brendafdez: if I say not at all, it's like I didn0t make it in their eyes, im missing out on being part of the foundation << lol muricans gotta muricate. [18:50]
mircea_popescu mike_c: anybody ever use https://www.eurodns.com << i think i got something thourhg them a few years ago. nothing terrible. [18:52]
assbot Register international domain names - Registration in 600+ extensions | EuroDNS ... ( http://bit.ly/19ENIX9 ) [18:52]
mircea_popescu ;;seen trinque [18:53]
gribble trinque was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 40 seconds ago:
two generations out of a high child mortality rate and people think they're bulletproof 		[18:53]
trinque I'm here [18:53]
mircea_popescu where's teh deedbot!!1 [18:53]
trinque 340107 [18:53]
mircea_popescu aha [18:53]
mircea_popescu aite, so, monday ? [18:54]
thestringpuller read that as if mircea_popescu was german from lebowski [18:54]
thestringpuller "where's da deedbot lebowski!1" [18:54]
trinque thestringpuller: lol [18:54]
trinque mircea_popescu: yeah, seems there are no other acts of god that could delay it [18:55]
mircea_popescu cool. [18:55]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: interesting. an "organic" spike. << yeah, the thing's definitely starting to pull its own weight. [18:55]
ascii_field what's an organic spike ? [18:55]
ascii_field vlad's tree stump stakes ? [18:56]
mircea_popescu ascii_field admitting traffic is a notion with an actual real equivalent, [18:56]
ascii_field ah, server spike [18:56]
trinque ascii_field: that's what the portland residents will be put atop [18:56]
mircea_popescu if the source of a traffic spike is directly identifiable (X site linking) vs if it's not (various sites linking) [18:56]
mircea_popescu https://devuan.org/donate.html << [18:57]
assbot Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins. ... ( http://bit.ly/19EPqHT ) [18:57]
mircea_popescu € 4298.41 via Paypal (EUR) [18:57]
mircea_popescu € 1099.18 via Stripe (EUR) [18:57]
mircea_popescu € 558.42 via Bank wire (EUR) [18:57]
mircea_popescu ฿ 2.20703267 Bitcoins (XBT) [18:57]
mircea_popescu pity they didn't have the sense to wot. [18:57]
ascii_field 'XBT' ? [18:57]
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PeterL xbt == btc [18:57]
mircea_popescu ima email them see if they're willing to respect the signed approach. [18:58]
thestringpuller ascii_field: it is organic drug you put in someone's drink to kidnap them [18:58]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/vermont-bitcoin-atm-cease-and-desist-requested/#comment-10900 << I don't think that will work. Cause you are exchanging government scrip for Bitcoin so it involves transfer of that... [19:01]
mircea_popescu ascii_field i wrote them an email inviting them over. [19:01]
mircea_popescu we do actually have a lot of overlap. [19:01]
danielpbarron apparently there is a way to enable ssh on a brand new pogo without using their stupid website [19:01]
mircea_popescu o wow, look at that, they have an irc even. [19:02]
mircea_popescu /join #debianfork [19:02]
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ascii_field neato [19:03]
thestringpuller everything is forking [19:05]
mircea_popescu "forking" [19:05]
ascii_field danielpbarron: not only, but i said what that way is on the day i mentioned 'pogo' here for the first time [19:07]
ascii_field i certainly did not use their idiot 'registration' thing [19:07]
ascii_field nor would any process that relies on their site staying up, be of use to our cause [19:07]
danielpbarron well, i'm an idiot :/ [19:07]
PeterL mod6 or ben_vulpes: on http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html the header extends off the right side of the screen (on my machine), could you make it use a smaller font so it fits inside the window? [19:07]
assbot ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CPrPxN ) [19:07]
danielpbarron i don't know how to use computers because i'm actually good at it; it's a matter of necessity [19:08]
thestringpuller hey we may have new allies! [19:08]
thestringpuller #devuan joins the party [19:08]
ascii_field it is not enough that folks fork, they must understand -why- they fork, and who the enemy is [19:09]
thestringpuller ascii_field: enemy of enemy sorta == friend?? [19:09]
ascii_field quite a few people have not made the conceptual leap to seeing the malice behind the incompetence [19:09]
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thestringpuller is that a requirement for swinging axe or sword? [19:10]
ascii_field for reliably swinging in the correct direction - absolutely required. [19:10]
ascii_field imagine if folks went to war as they go to 'mosh pit' [19:10]
thestringpuller ah like when party member has confuse debuff and he starts hitting you [19:10]
ascii_field 'i just wanna swing' [19:10]
thestringpuller yah [19:10]
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mircea_popescu what's jurov's list again ? someone dump in #debianfork [19:11]
thestringpuller k [19:11]
mircea_popescu whyty. [19:13]
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ascii_field danke thestringpuller [19:14]
thestringpuller interesting point with moshpit it is a very inefficient exertion of energy [19:14]
thestringpuller just ball of exploding meat chaos [19:14]
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PeterL after mircea_popescu left, in #debianfork: tmyklebu: he's not weird enough to be a billionaire. [19:27]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha [19:27]
mircea_popescu they should have a bash. [19:27]
mircea_popescu the things pete_dushenski causes. [19:29]
mircea_popescu ascii_field it is not enough that folks fork, they must understand -why- they fork, and who the enemy is << would not go that far, personally. just as long as people act sanely, they're good enough. [19:30]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: that's all well and good but you still need to justify any increase in block size << how about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2015#1019604 ? [19:39]
assbot Logged on 15-02-2015 15:36:09; kakobrekla: i wonder what goes longer way towards 'inclusiveness', the big blocks or cheap nodes [19:39]
chetty http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Black-Madam-Philadelphia-Buttocks-Injection-Death-292592791.html [19:40]
assbot Dancer's Death in Philadelphia Hotel Reveals World of 'Pumping Parties,' Surgery | NBC 10 Philadelphia ... ( http://bit.ly/1G9phM5 ) [19:40]
mircea_popescu NewLiberty: I am advocating that "chief scientists" at least be scientists and not engineers << scientists, engineers etc have no business with chiefdom. that's a position for a strategist, nothing else. [19:40]
mircea_popescu chetty sadly that world's being "revealed" about every other year. [19:40]
mircea_popescu there actually exist these completely insane people going around injecting industrial grade silicone straight into "customers" [19:41]
mircea_popescu "a procedure involving silicone and Krazy Glue" [19:42]
chetty well I dont know why women want bigger butts [19:42]
mircea_popescu that's pretty clear. why do they think they can cut themselves up like they were barbie dolls however, that's mysterious. [19:43]
chetty maybe a bigger butt helps if you sit at a computer a lot ...hmmm [19:44]
mircea_popescu NewLiberty: A made to fail ponzi << a ponzi only fails because there's an actual monetary unit to compare against. [19:44]
mircea_popescu otherwise, ponzi in a vacuum does not fail. [19:44]
mircea_popescu chetty 20yo was a dancer. [19:45]
mircea_popescu she was black im ready to bet. [19:45]
mircea_popescu this means... she shook her butt. [19:45]
chetty http://news.yahoo.com/google-glass-apple-watch-japan-offers-wearable-tomatoes-095421514.html;_ylt=AwrBJR4wJOZUqjIApN7QtDMD [19:48]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: I would bet that if you asked the parents of the non-vaccinated, they would say that they want to 'prevent autism' << isn't the best way to achieve this to have kids while the womb in question is young, flexible and healthy and the sperms ibid? << i am willing to bet no, because autism was virtually unknown weh i was a kid, and old women had plentry of kids back then [19:48]
PeterL was it unknown because it did not exist or because it was not yet named? [19:49]
mircea_popescu didn't exist. [19:49]
PeterL the people now being called autistic, they would have been called something different back then? [19:50]
PeterL like weird? [19:50]
mircea_popescu mmm, but i would remember the cases, see. not a matter of calling. [19:50]
PeterL would you? maybe you just avoided people like that? [19:50]
mircea_popescu as a kid growing up, i had contact with... thousands, prolly at the outset 10k kids. in the sense of actually having seen them with mine own eyes. [19:50]
mircea_popescu and i'd have heard *something* about the particular weirdness. [19:51]
mircea_popescu for that matter, autism went in the supplemental fascicle of infantile pathology, with spina bifida et all horrors. [19:52]
mircea_popescu !up NewLiberty [19:52]
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mircea_popescu !gettrust assbot NewLiberty [19:52]
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mircea_popescu eh danielpbarron you're really pushing things eh [19:52]
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cazalla the 90s gave us so many adhd kids that it was no longer fashionable.. the new fashion with autism is that one can pronounce that their kid is "on the spectrum" as if it makes them somewhat special [19:53]
NewLiberty I'd aver that no money is in a vacuum, it is only meaningful in exchange for things. https://www.dollarvigilante.com/storage/devaluation_denarius.jpg [19:53]
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cazalla at least that is my experience overhearing mothers talk [19:53]
trinque I suspect it's as adhd was/is, an easy way to prescribe drugs [19:53]
trinque gotta have as many people on govt sanctioned amphetamines as possible [19:54]
trinque most "autistic" people I've encountered just seemed like kids that weren't properly raised [19:54]
chetty I dont doubt the uptick is partly a matter of fashion and names, but it doesnt explain it all, something else is going on there [19:54]
mircea_popescu pollution is my guess. [19:55]
chetty chems in foods etc, probably [19:55]
mircea_popescu yep [19:55]
cazalla mircea_popescu, ever come across gender dysphoria or same story as autism? [19:55]
mircea_popescu actually that DID happen. [19:56]
mircea_popescu maybe 1 in 20 preteen chick wanted to be a boy. [19:56]
mircea_popescu for various intensities of want. [19:56]
* chetty raises hand [19:56]
cazalla boy wanting to be girl i mean, tom boys are a given [19:56]
mircea_popescu i think i knew a grand total of maybe a dozen kids that'd be what you call confused. prolly more, but kept secret because at the time pretty stigmatic. [19:57]
chetty why do you suppose tom boys are a given, but boys wanting to be girls is wierd? [19:58]
mircea_popescu and to help everyone interested evaluate the above numeric claims : at the time in romania, housing was "allocated", to first time parents. so basically, you'd marry, play with the wife, once she missed a period you made a claim with your place of employment and ~1 year later they'd give you the keys to a new apartment. the density was maybe 1k / sqkm. i was a first born, but most families had two or more children - pl [19:59]
mircea_popescu enty as many as four or five. [19:59]
mircea_popescu consequently, in the 1sqkm area that's the hunting grounds of one healthy boy, i literally knew, by sight, thousands of kids. [20:00]
mircea_popescu and then in school, three 4 year cycles of 1-3k kids each. [20:00]
mircea_popescu 10k is a fair outer bound. [20:00]
cazalla chetty, i guess because i grew up knowing of some whereas the idea that a boy would think he is a girl was foreign to me until more recent years.. just an anecdote, but i see most of the boy to girl shit coming from sjw types, that's all [20:01]
trinque cazalla: seems that's part of a larger category of "identity fuck" [20:01]
cazalla in other words, i'm already familiar (comfortable?) with the idea of tom boys [20:01]
chetty well in fairness, tome boys dont always want to be boys, they just want the freedom [20:02]
trinque this idea that one can identify as anything, plant, mineral, sports mascot [20:02]
mircea_popescu chetty i suspect it's one way but not the other for purely biological reasons. specifically : 9 yos can do the same number of pull-ups. [20:03]
mircea_popescu then the girls get tits and butts, and they can no longer lift themselves up for a kingdom [20:03]
mircea_popescu it' [20:03]
mircea_popescu s readily obvious why kids' want to be boys rather than girls at that age. [20:03]
mircea_popescu PeterL: You might be thinking of Down's Syndrome, that has a higher occurrence in older mothers << yeah, that's proven. autism merely suspected. [20:08]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: average age of childbirth goes up in america, all sorts of mental disfunctions go up in america. << except the machine is made to fail once it no longer can work. [20:08]
mircea_popescu PeterL: maybe somebody mistranslated a time unit somewhere along the way? << "but they translated the hebrew word for young woman to the greek word for nine months, and hence..." [20:10]
PeterL lol [20:10]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: La Serenissima's enemies are absolute. Once an enemy always an enemy. << actually... these "enemies" of ours are more like wanna-be girlfriends than anything. [20:13]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly, http://41.media.tumblr.com/73689d7ace567310af77d9447f485714/tumblr_n65wcoNI0U1tn6yoxo1_1280.jpg [20:14]
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mircea_popescu o look Apocalyptic. how goes ? [20:17]
mircea_popescu PeterL: so I'm looking at houses near some of the jobs I'm applying for, I know I really don't want to live inside Detroit, but 15k for a 4br/2ba house seems tempting << it's the end of days i tell you, idiots here think 2br/1ba apts are 150k [20:18]
mircea_popescu ascii_field: no, it works in the sense that the folks in control, are still amply supplied with whores and blow << neiother of these are either rare, ahrd to get or particularly useful/desirable. [20:20]
PeterL but it's the taxes that kill you, you pay 4k+/yr property tax for these cheap houses, and city income tax of 2.5% (suburbs have no income tax) [20:20]
Adlai mircea_popescu: "made to fail once it no longer can work" << these are not binary [20:21]
mircea_popescu obviously. but there's still more error checking in the uterus than in the space program. [20:21]
mircea_popescu PeterL ahahaha wuit, city income tax ?! [20:21]
mircea_popescu gtfo roflmao omfg. what ?! [20:21]
mircea_popescu how does a city even have the fucking authority to make an income tax ?! [20:21]
PeterL yeah, dumb idea, anybody who earns income moves out [20:21]
mircea_popescu nopbody told city hall "dudes, stfu and mind the parking meters" ? [20:22]
PeterL State passed a law because Detroit begged them to, Lansing charges 1% [20:22]
mircea_popescu it's absurd. [20:22]
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mircea_popescu how about i buy a building, make a building income tax ?! [20:22]
PeterL a couple other cities in MI also have 1%, but most don't have any [20:22]
Adlai you should start a tax-free residential office park right outside the official city limits [20:23]
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PeterL usually they also charge 1/2 the income tax to people who work in the city but live elsewhere [20:23]
mike_c NYC tax is 3.5% [20:23]
mircea_popescu Adlai nope. because once it's established they'd try to steal it and i'd have to go to war and massaacre them. [20:23]
PeterL the city of Southfield is essentially one giant office park for companies who wanted to move offices out of the city [20:24]
Adlai has it since instituted its own shitty tax? [20:24]
PeterL no, but they do have pretty high propety tax there, I think [20:24]
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PeterL http://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/detroit/the-worst-suburbs-in-detroit a brief introduction to the Detroit area [20:26]
assbot The Worst Suburbs in Detroit ... ( http://bit.ly/1zriNDt ) [20:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's kinda funny to me how many of these "online magazines" copied after the atlantic sprung up everywhere. they almost look like all the boost-baseds "bitcoin businesses", except they're driven by scammers who scam the dod instead of scammers who scam idiot bitcopiners. [20:26]
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mircea_popescu vaguely related : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikers_Island google for "preet" [20:26]
assbot Rikers Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zriQPQ ) [20:26]
mircea_popescu apparently guy thinks he needs all the pr he can get. [20:26]
TheNewDeal ;;later tell TomServo around until Monday. Hope we can finally get in touch if you need to! [20:27]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:27]
Apocalyptic not bad mircea_popescu, what about you ? [20:28]
mircea_popescu not bad nopt bad. [20:28]
Adlai your p key on the other hand seems to be cryping out for some love [20:28]
mircea_popescu :p [20:29]
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Adlai ;;bc,stats [20:39]
gribble Current Blocks: 344282 | Current Difficulty: 4.44554159623438E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 344735 | Next Difficulty In: 453 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 17 hours, 53 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 46723759744.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.10251 [20:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: just as long as people act sanely, they're good enough << if they have no concept of the enemy, the latter can persuade them to 'act sanely' in a harmless - to him - direction, when it suits him [20:51]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: pogo notes << shameful mistake on my part re: jtag pinouts. the soldered wires, turns out, actually lead to (useless to me) gpio pins, not jtag [20:52]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: the actual jtag test points are small and gnarly, clustered around cpu. i'll get around to them some time.. [20:52]
danielpbarron i'm trying to figure this uboot thing out right now. is this a proper thing to be looking at? -> http://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-latest.tar.bz2 [20:53]
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asciilifeform autism epidemiology << one way or another, iatrogenic. you can take that to the bank. [20:55]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: the uboot source is pretty easy to build [20:55]
danielpbarron i made this config file: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WeNwB1mR [20:57]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: wanna-be girlfriends << you mean groupie who false accusing it? [20:57]
thestringpuller everytime i see pogo plug now I think of a pogo stick shaped butt plug [20:58]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=a7Sidjqn << here's mine [20:59]
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danielpbarron you used the sheevaplug board option i see [21:01]
asciilifeform aha [21:01]
asciilifeform works fine. [21:01]
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danielpbarron i was gonna use MV88f6281GTW_GE Board [21:01]
danielpbarron how did you know to do that? [21:01]
asciilifeform iirc i picked it from the built-in menuconfig thingie in uboot's build system [21:02]
asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you/#comment-10985 << lol! [21:02]
assbot Your Disk Controller and You | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zrngWJ ) [21:02]
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danielpbarron compiling now [21:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ipso definitio not sanely. [21:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: more along the lines of 'folks shouldn't stay and be sane back on the farm, there's a war on, go to the front' [21:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform iatrogenic << nah, my money's on a yet unidentified pollutant from industrial practice. something in consumer products, from the shitty gelatin kraft/unilver uses as the basis of all their "products" - really flavoured goop, to soaps plastics w/e. [21:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform folks should fight whatever war they feel like. [21:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if it's a pollutant, it'd have to be one that usa takes in more or less evenly...? [21:07]
asciilifeform for instance, the california sv folks don't eat much 'kraft' [21:07]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, i mean low value idiots who'd gladly suck our cock if only we a) didn't bang hotties and b) validated their self-hottie delusions. [21:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform industry is industry. they all use the same thing. [21:07]
mircea_popescu you imagine there's any difference between ANY fizzy drink ? [21:08]
asciilifeform lol no. [21:08]
mircea_popescu (this includes all beers) [21:08]
asciilifeform the fizzy drinks and synthetic beers have been around longer than autism, though. [21:09]
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mircea_popescu look it up. [21:09]
mircea_popescu autism starts to move up just about the time warren buffett starts derping about how great wrigley is. [21:10]
mircea_popescu it's a by-product of the "Great Industrial Integration" of the late 60s [21:10]
asciilifeform more general observation, one explanation of the american attitude to pollutants (the more the merrier) is that it is precisely for the same reason as poettering et al's attitude to software. [21:10]
danielpbarron ok i have an executable file named 'u-boot' [21:10]
asciilifeform bury folks in an ocean of shit - no blame can be assigned [21:10]
asciilifeform or so the perpetrator assumes. [21:10]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron wd. [21:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's certainly damned hard to fish through the soup currently. [21:11]
asciilifeform and it isn't as if you can craft a mouse model for autism. [21:11]
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mircea_popescu right. [21:11]
danielpbarron is this the same file i can write to /dev/mtd0 ? [21:11]
mircea_popescu but incidentally : girl bought 'dijon mustard' by kraft. made to mimic actual legitimate producers. [21:12]
mircea_popescu immediately tasted the telltale bitter back of mouth aftertaste. [21:12]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: gotta use the util. described in the original article. it sets the ecc bits in the eeprom [21:12]
mircea_popescu ALL THEIR FUCKING SHIT is made out of the same goop, with flavourings. [21:12]
danielpbarron nandwrite ? [21:12]
asciilifeform aha [21:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where i live, the synthetic food is conveniently shelved in another (by far largest) section of the store than the mostly-correct (to look, feel, and taste) variant [21:13]
mircea_popescu from persil to bosco [21:13]
asciilifeform the vendors aren't really trying to mimic the genuine article. [21:14]
asciilifeform it is entirely clear to the naked eye (no need to open the seal) where the identical goop is. [21:15]
asciilifeform (aside from logo, geometrically regular packages with no expiration date or date in distant future, proximity to other similar products on the shelf, and - above all - cost closer to what one might expect of motor fuel than food) [21:16]
asciilifeform this says nothing on the question of contaminants found in 'proper' food in same shop, but i did want to point out that the two fundamentally different things are shelved separately [21:17]
asciilifeform and there can be no confusion between them, imho [21:17]
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danielpbarron d'oh i'm dumb; it's in /usr/sbin/ [21:21]
mircea_popescu mebbe. [21:24]
mircea_popescu in practical terms, however, most people eat pre-produced stuff, either at home or in a "restaurant" [21:25]
mircea_popescu from mcdo to tgi or w/e. [21:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: whatever it is, u.s. folks from 'high society' obsessed with 'natural product' are getting their fair share of it - or more. [21:27]
mircea_popescu myeah. [21:28]
asciilifeform the ones who wouldn't be 'caught dead' at, e.g., 'mcdonald's' [21:28]
mircea_popescu there is the occasional shop that's competent, but by and large the label offers no protection. [21:29]
mircea_popescu much like college degrees offer no guarantee [21:29]
danielpbarron i've got two examples of writing uboot and they use different flags and different start addresses [21:30]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/435f263d9395e1e89a50eb313d407074/tumblr_ng2gwf5YGA1rne0mao1_500.jpg for teh lulz. [21:30]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AOebNG ) [21:30]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: flags and start addresses !?! [21:30]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: it goes right on top of the old uboot [21:30]
asciilifeform mtd0 [21:30]
danielpbarron /tmp/nandwrite /dev/mtd0 /tmp/uboot.2014.07-tld-1.pogo_v4.mtd0.kwb [21:30]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: you want to erase the nand, yes [21:31]
danielpbarron /usr/sbin/nandwrite -p -s 0x100000 /dev/mtd0 /tmp/uboot.bin [21:31]
asciilifeform if you omit the block count, it does the whole partition. [21:31]
asciilifeform nononono [21:31]
asciilifeform flash_erase /dev/mtd1 0 [21:31]
asciilifeform well, mtd0 [21:32]
asciilifeform in this case [21:32]
asciilifeform and then, [21:32]
cazalla this food talk reminds me of current hysteria of hepatitis a laden frozen berries from china doing the rounds here in australia, many people such, much surprise for some reason.. while on holidays, i spot the same shit in my parents freezer, advise em that they might not wanna eat this but get met with abuse, you think you know everything response.. a month later, hep a scare! so sweet lulz [21:32]
asciilifeform nandwrite -p /dev/mtd0 whatever [21:32]
danielpbarron and i can use the flash_erase and nandwrite that come on the stock pogo? [21:32]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: can [21:32]
danielpbarron should*? [21:32]
asciilifeform or build'em on whatever you're running [21:33]
asciilifeform they're fairly low-tech [21:33]
danielpbarron :O [21:33]
cazalla http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-hep-A-media-1-frozen-berry.htm of course, people are now calling for proper labelling but apparently no can do due to trade agreements, guess people must eat their shit berries and be content [21:34]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile at the poloplug ranch http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwh6sgckoV1qa258ao1_1280.jpg [21:34]
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asciilifeform lol! [21:34]
asciilifeform what even. [21:34]
asciilifeform http://www.slideserve.com/saber/programming-in-the-small-c-c-java-pitfalls-ada-benefits << interesting - for aficionados of 'underhanded c' also [21:37]
assbot Programming in the Small: C/C++/Java Pitfalls & Ada Benefits - Franco Gaspe... ... ( http://bit.ly/17igBGT ) [21:37]
asciilifeform puts some light on why there will never be an 'underhanded ada' contest. [21:37]
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mircea_popescu "But it's the wealth gap that we should be worried about, soon to be greatly increased. Wealth gaps mean feudalism. They mean, on the one hand, universal healthcare-- everyone gets the same; on the other hand, flow chart medicine-- since everyone gets the same, let's just make a flowchart. It also means mental health parity, which is really a way to funnel the poor into the only outlet we have to deal with their rage [21:44]
mircea_popescu : psychiatry. " [21:44]
mircea_popescu heh. tlp has a poor man's view of rich people. [21:44]
mircea_popescu call me when they fill up a ranch with young fillies collected from detroit. then they may be rich in the feudal sense of powerful. [21:45]
asciilifeform not too many poor folks with a 'rich man's view' of rich [21:45]
asciilifeform re: autism pollutant: when i tell folks that north kr is a unique planetary resource whose (very likely) disappearance could turn out to be an extinction-level catastrophe - they make monkey noises [21:49]
asciilifeform but this is why. [21:49]
asciilifeform if it takes a batshit king and world's thickest minefield to keep out 'mcdonalds', it might yet turn out to be worth it. [21:50]
asciilifeform sometimes, 'sanity' - as in, nash-equilibrium behaviour - is death. [21:52]
asciilifeform and 'insanity' - life. [21:52]
asciilifeform think of it as 'airgap' from civilization. [21:53]
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ben_vulpes good evening [22:04]
asciilifeform 'Platinum - also called platina is the heaviest substance but one (see No. 47) known, having a specific gravity of fully 21, which may be raised to about 21.5 by hammering.' - Encyclopaedia of Practical Receipts and Processes. William B. Dick, 1872. << mega-vintage-l0l [22:06]
* asciilifeform wonder how much pre-atomic chemistry remains quietly in circulation to this day, in various 'practical' works [22:07]
ben_vulpes there are always those water-fueled cars... [22:09]
asciilifeform not speaking of pseudoscience as such [22:10]
asciilifeform but notions like the above, that actually trace descent to late pre-atomic state of the art [22:10]
asciilifeform actually strike that. [22:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 125 @ 0.01177323 = 1.4717 BTC [+] {4} [22:11]
asciilifeform turns out in english 'specific gravity' == density [22:11]
asciilifeform and so entirely reasonable to ask to hammer. just odd phrasing [22:11]
ben_vulpes ;;calc .5/21 [22:12]
gribble 0.0238095238095 [22:12]
ben_vulpes but a 2 percent increase? [22:12]
asciilifeform can anyone tell me if Pt forms a hydride in nature? [22:12]
* ben_vulpes shakes his head sadly [22:13]
asciilifeform can anyone guess why this has to be asked [22:13]
* ben_vulpes doesn't guess. knows or doesn't. [22:13]
ben_vulpes but i would like to know. [22:14]
asciilifeform if i recall, abundance of 'heavy water' (D2O) on earth is around 0.0003 [22:14]
asciilifeform eh, nm again, it was palladium deuteride not platinum, that fuses if hammered. [22:15]
* asciilifeform off to get some rest [22:16]
ben_vulpes [] USD will kill USD, even without XBT << xbt lol [22:16]
ben_vulpes everyone and their custom phrasing [22:16]
ben_vulpes [] Xuthus: and who would you be ? << that guy who broke his dick, right? [22:21]
ben_vulpes uses a new nick now for reasons? [22:21]
mircea_popescu no? [22:23]
ben_vulpes a no. [22:24]
ben_vulpes my mistake. [22:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59500 @ 0.000421 = 25.0495 BTC [-] {2} [22:24]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/64cdf852d93b8cd579e950efb42d20a9/tumblr_nav669ULIl1se6ghyo1_1280.jpg << i think she's trying to debug his pulseaudio. [22:27]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FAmo9w ) [22:28]
ben_vulpes hahaha [22:28]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell PeterL get moar pixels [22:29]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:29]
ben_vulpes "fascicle" << new word for me today [22:32]
ben_vulpes [] pollution is my guess. << "you don't need to make up and over fit models to convince me that the silicon fabrication process is realrealreal bad for life on planet earth" [22:33]
danielpbarron http://blog.cylance.com/author/brian-wallace << i went to school with this guy / haven't talked to him in years [22:34]
assbot Blog | Cylance ... ( http://bit.ly/1FAnBO4 ) [22:34]
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ben_vulpes [] the fizzy drinks and synthetic beers have been around longer than autism, though. << what on earth is synthetic beer!? [22:40]
ben_vulpes [] there is the occasional shop that's competent, but by and large the label offers no protection. << nice thing about growing up proximate to actual farm land worked by actual humans is the learned skill of being able to nix Cisco-vendors after a single visit. [22:42]
ben_vulpes to all of the ex-californians, a french fry is a french fry is a french fry. [22:42]
danielpbarron they use hfcs in most big name beers [22:42]
ben_vulpes danielpbarron: good grief [22:42]
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ben_vulpes i don't even drink beer anymore [22:43]
* danielpbarron either [22:43]
ben_vulpes this vile stout of convenience aside [22:43]
ben_vulpes bad shits [22:43]
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mike_c what an asshole: [22:48]
mike_c !gettrust crypto/quo [22:49]
assbot Trust relationship from user mike_c to user crypto/quo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mike_c/crypto%2Fquo | http://w.b-a.link/user/crypto%2Fquo [22:49]
mike_c who puts a goddamn forward slash in their nick [22:49]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes all us beer [22:50]
mircea_popescu coca cola flavoured as "beer" [22:51]
ben_vulpes mike_c: ask nubbins` [22:51]
mike_c backtick is easier! [22:51]
mike_c note kako's wot links don't work for him [22:51]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: dunno about 'all'. [22:51]
ben_vulpes would believe 'anything from busch et al' [22:52]
mircea_popescu well, put it another way : if tax was paid on it it necessarily sucks, because well... it couldn't not suck and stay competitive. [22:52]
TheNewDeal ;;ticker [22:52]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 240.7, Best ask: 241.79, Bid-ask spread: 1.09000, Last trade: 240.7, 24 hour volume: 9188.93705848, 24 hour low: 235.59, 24 hour high: 245.01, 24 hour vwap: 240.188239723 [22:52]
mircea_popescu so sure, w/e your microbrewing friend gave you in exchange for those two 6 yos you kidnapped is prolly drinkable. [22:52]
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ben_vulpes i don't think you've seen beer prices around here lately. [22:54]
* assbot gives voice to decimation [22:55]
ben_vulpes the delta between ye olde mass markete pricing and the locally made swill is on the order of 200-300% [22:55]
ben_vulpes which affords for tax without hfcs [22:55]
decimation asciilifeform: one way or another, iatrogenic. you can take that to the bank. << who knows, maybe it comes from giving out antibiotics like candy [22:55]
trinque plenty of excellent microbrew in the pac NW [22:56]
asciilifeform 200-300% << and more [22:56]
mircea_popescu jesus this free speech thing i can't even force a point beyond all reason without you people oppressing my metaphordisphoria [22:56]
asciilifeform but one could argue that at a certain point it is an irresistible temptation to the sc4mz0rz, rather than guarantee of genuine article [22:57]
decimation asciilifeform: the vendors aren't really trying to mimic the genuine article. << no, they optimize on 'sales' [22:57]
asciilifeform also worth noting that sc4mf00dz are not new [22:58]
asciilifeform were a problem, to some extent, even in late medieval times [22:58]
asciilifeform (as described in, e.g., sebastian brandt's 'ship of fools') [22:58]
asciilifeform the encyclopaedia i mentioned earlier today (1872) contained innumerable recipes for useful things, but also for faux honey, sham ass's milk (yes), and a thousand other fakeries [22:59]
asciilifeform what -is- relatively new is the near-total loss of access to actual food for quite a few folks. [23:00]
decimation asciilifeform: you gonna mine the seafloor for Pt? [23:00]
asciilifeform decimation: was a failed line of thought re: densities [23:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not new at all. recall "david copperfield" - "with actual sugar on top!11" [23:00]
mircea_popescu london's poor ate belts for centuries. [23:01]
decimation also they drank shit-water from the thames [23:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55517 @ 0.00042208 = 23.4326 BTC [+] {2} [23:01]
ben_vulpes jesus this free speech thing i can't even force a point beyond all reason without you people oppressing my metaphordisphoria << it's for the logs :P [23:01]
asciilifeform boil belt, boil accordion, etc [23:01]
ben_vulpes no implications may go unspoken [23:02]
ben_vulpes no jokes may go unexplained [23:02]
ben_vulpes less the children of tomorrow not get it [23:02]
ben_vulpes lest* [23:02]
ben_vulpes that's the rationale, right? [23:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 100 @ 0.08996019 = 8.996 BTC [-] {5} [23:04]
trinque ben_vulpes: childen of tomorrow wont be able to read [23:04]
decimation http://forums.canadiancontent.net/history/48176-18th-century-london-its-daily.html < " In 1771, Tobias Smollet wrote, "If I would drink water, I must quaff the mawkish contents of an open aqueduct, exposed to all manner of defilement, or swallow that which comes from the River Thames, impregnated with all the filth of London and Westminster. Human excrement is the least offensive part of the concrete, which is composed of all the drugs, [23:04]
decimation minerals, and poisons used in mechanics and manufacture, enriched with the putrefying carcases of beasts and men, and mixed with the scourings of all the wash-tubs, kennels and common sewers within the bills of mortality." (5)" [23:05]
assbot 18th Century London - its daily life and hazards. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkBEng ) [23:05]
mike_c an open aqueduct is mawkish? you mean.. like a river? [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68044 @ 0.00041844 = 28.4723 BTC [-] {2} [23:06]
trinque heh, now it's fracking chemicals and recycled pharmeceutical piss [23:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72685 @ 0.00041291 = 30.0124 BTC [-] {2} [23:07]
decimation http://www.brunel-museum.org.uk/shop2/the-brunels-tunnel/ << Herr Brunel dug underneath the filth to achieve one of his great engineering feats [23:08]
assbot The Brunel Museum » The Brunels’ Tunnel ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkC4dq ) [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34092 @ 0.00041133 = 14.0231 BTC [-] [23:11]
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ben_vulpes mike_c, decimation: the feds and CH2MHILL are going to cover our historic open reservoirs. [23:13]
ben_vulpes because "a parasite!!!1!" [23:13]
ben_vulpes nevermind the radon and bacterial buildup that closed reservoirs entail [23:13]
ben_vulpes also [23:13]
ben_vulpes subject of irc.serenissima.butts [23:13]
ben_vulpes https://unstable.systems/ [23:13]
assbot Unstable Systems ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkCtfS ) [23:13]
decimation what? what parasite [23:14]
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ben_vulpes cryptosporidium protozoa iirc [23:15]
ben_vulpes perhaps not a parasite [23:15]
ben_vulpes ianab etc [23:15]
decimation this thing > http://koin.com/2014/05/20/powell-butte-ii-reservoir-design-contract-balloons/ [23:17]
assbot Powell Butte II reservoir design contract balloons | KOIN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ev4BNn ) [23:17]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu> so sure, w/e your microbrewing friend gave you << or my brother :D he even makes his own yeast cultures [23:20]
mircea_popescu cool [23:21]
danielpbarron that beer, i'd drink [23:21]
danielpbarron SetBestChain: new best=000000000000000007e4 height=344301 work=5843887003250562996213694 date=02/20/15 02:14:19 [23:22]
danielpbarron SetBestChain: 3 of last 100 blocks above version 2 [23:22]
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asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2015/02/gchq-pcs-harvesting-intercept-15-0219.pdf << the thing behind the sim card lulzies earlier today [23:31]
asciilifeform ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2015#1024948 and below ) [23:31]
assbot Logged on 19-02-2015 20:48:27; ascii_field: great sim heist << transparent nsa smokescreen. gsm uses toy crypto since day one (usg mandate) and has always been breakable with minimal effort. [23:31]
danielpbarron https://blockchain.info/blocks/Bitcoin%20Affiliate%20Network << this miner is using the new version [23:33]
assbot Recent blocks Found By Bitcoin Affiliate Network [23:33]
asciilifeform did someone expect that no such thing would ever appear ? [23:33]
asciilifeform or what. [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.0004237 = 19.1936 BTC [+] {2} [23:33]
danielpbarron just making note is all; it's interesting to me [23:34]
asciilifeform depending on how much self-restraint the idiots have, it may even turn out that all usg-sponsored miners will run (or claim to run) 0.10 [23:34]
asciilifeform the only true 'acid test' is an actual hardfork. [23:34]
asciilifeform anyone can harmlessly change a version constant. [23:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://www.aholme.co.uk/Mk1/Architecture.htm << example of modern discrete logic machine. (there are many. common amateur project. but, afaik, nothing remotely large enough for, e.g., a bitcoin node.) [23:39]
assbot Mark 1 FORTH Computer ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkE2KJ ) [23:39]
mircea_popescu they prolly should wotify jus' in case... [23:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.00040807 = 13.2419 BTC [-] [23:49]
decimation for even more ancient warez, you might as well reinvent the original stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5P5faf7478 [23:49]
assbot Colossus - Operational at Bletchley - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkECIu ) [23:49]
TheNewDeal thanks for taking time to write that hard drive article ascii [23:51]
danielpbarron i got a bunch of warnings, but i seem to have my own nandwrite and flash_erase compiled from this source -> ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/mtd-utils/ [23:57]
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danielpbarron i'm not anywhere near skilled enough to check that source for badness though [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44528 @ 0.00041137 = 18.3175 BTC [+] [23:58]
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