Forum logs for 19 Dec 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [08:21]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi [08:21]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Dec 7 19:23:30 2012 [08:21]
mircea_popescu aaaaaaaaai'm a lumberjack and i'm okay... [08:21]
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smickles mod6: thx :) [08:22]
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smickles mircea_popescu: sometimes you act way too much like my first girlfriend [08:23]
mircea_popescu lmao [08:23]
smickles * you like monty python [08:23]
smickles *you say 'prolly' [08:23]
smickles i'm going to go have a smoke instead of continuing this list [08:24]
smickles :P [08:24]
mircea_popescu lmao [08:24]
mircea_popescu i thought it was moar like, 1. you beat up on naked girls ; 2. you do magics with money ; 3. you're pretty fucking scary ; 4. you have the biggest beard i ever saw outside of like, a deceased patriarch [08:24]
mircea_popescu which'd be pretty strange for a GIRLFRIEND [08:25]
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Ukto anyone with a BF account happen to be awake? [08:35]
pigeons ya [08:36]
Ukto do you happen to have any orders placed atm? [08:37]
pigeons no [08:37]
Ukto k [08:37]
Ukto Just wanted to make sure ppl could see the 'my ask'/'my bid' and cancel button on the orders list [08:37]
Ukto pigeons: did you see the new depth graph? kinda crappy, but not bad for a first start [08:38]
Ukto gonna try to add that selector line like on the trading graph [08:38]
mircea_popescu Ukto how's the bond pt going ? [08:39]
pigeons yeah cool [08:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0036 = 6.12 BTC [+] [08:40]
Ukto 387 shares sold (0.1 value) [08:41]
mircea_popescu so likely it will get to 100 huh [08:41]
Ukto wait [08:41]
* Ukto eyes [08:41]
Ukto 287 shares sold [08:41]
Ukto about 28btc [08:41]
Ukto so it COULD make it [08:41]
Ukto if anything get pretty close [08:42]
mircea_popescu a so about same as yest [08:42]
Ukto been aboud 140shares per day so far [08:42]
Ukto if it maintains, then yeah, should have enough [08:42]
Ukto but with finals [08:43]
Ukto and holidays [08:43]
Ukto ppl will be stepping away [08:43]
Ukto so it may not, hard to say [08:43]
Ukto the only real attention BF is getting, is the securities forum, and that reddit post jurov linked it in [08:43]
mircea_popescu kind of a hard sell for btc veterans. i imagine it must be attractive to new ppl. [08:44]
Ukto well, the bonds have a reasonably good history [08:45]
Ukto though a 2~4% gain, with the risk of that nasty looking possible-pirate month scares alot of ppl it seems [08:45]
mircea_popescu i meant more generally bf [08:45]
Ukto thats the only complanit I have seen [08:45]
Ukto ah yeah [08:45]
Ukto well [08:45]
Ukto sat least ppl like it [08:45]
mircea_popescu otherwise the bonds do tend to collect about enough capital each time [08:46]
Ukto or choose it over other options [08:46]
Ukto the test with the sdice asset [08:46]
mircea_popescu originally people were putting like 2-3k in, cause it's what it used, then it had that 8k month i covered for [08:46]
Ukto is showing to be almost 4:1 now [08:46]
mircea_popescu so people put in like 8-10k [08:46]
mircea_popescu recently it had that 40k month, i imagine it'll get filled close to that again [08:46]
Ukto yeah, too bad I didnt get any in for this month. ;) [08:46]
mircea_popescu :p [08:46]
mircea_popescu what's 4:1 ? [08:47]
Ukto the ppl who chose bf [08:47]
Ukto over .. others [08:47]
mircea_popescu o hehe [08:47]
pigeons 2 out of 3 dentists prefer glbse [08:47]
mircea_popescu lol [08:47]
Ukto in shareholder counts. share counts, pffft, almost no comparison [08:47]
mircea_popescu ahahah dude pigeons is like the aftershave of humour. [08:47]
Ukto yeah, i like em [08:47]
mircea_popescu as stringent as aftershave anyway [08:48]
Ukto until he decides to go on a drive bomb run [08:48]
Ukto Ahh [08:48]
Ukto got the selector line now in teh depth graph [08:49]
Ukto and zooming [08:49]
mircea_popescu lol funny how jurov's reddit got 8 yes 8 no votes [08:51]
Ukto what other graphing type info [08:54]
Ukto can I display... [08:54]
Ukto any use for a polar chart... mebbe a nifty pie? [08:54]
mircea_popescu mmmm pie [08:55]
Ukto donut chart? [08:56]
Ukto :P [08:56]
mircea_popescu ok so sr was haxxored [08:56]
Ukto I woudl do OHLC & Candles... but as I said before.. its a 24hr market... seems that open/close is pointless data [08:57]
mircea_popescu someone seems to be usiong some sort of sql injection to replace item images [08:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00355763 = 12.4517 BTC [-] [09:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 363 @ 0.0035 = 1.2705 BTC [-] [09:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063658 = 10.1853 BTC [+] [09:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006348 = 2.743 BTC [-] [09:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063453 = 3.2862 BTC [-] [09:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063623 = 2.7491 BTC [+] [09:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00063658 = 0.1273 BTC [+] [09:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37477 @ 0.00063666 = 23.8601 BTC [+] [09:42]
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Ukto dinally posted a forum avatar... >:P~ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.0 [10:14]
Ukto *finally [10:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063467 = 2.7424 BTC [-] [10:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20879 @ 0.00063453 = 13.2484 BTC [-] [10:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063477 = 2.7428 BTC [+] [10:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172 @ 0.00063453 = 0.1091 BTC [-] [10:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8076 @ 0.000629 = 5.0798 BTC [-] [10:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00062922 = 0.6594 BTC [+] [11:02]
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mircea_popescu The top 5 percent of households in Washington, D.C., made more than $500,000 on average last year, while the bottom 20 percent earned less than $9,500 - a ratio of 54 to 1. [11:16]
mircea_popescu take from the rich, take from the poor, give to yourself. [11:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063633 = 2.7496 BTC [+] [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10079 @ 0.00063666 = 6.4169 BTC [+] [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00062922 = 2.0594 BTC [-] [12:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 728 @ 0.000629 = 0.4579 BTC [-] [12:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00062794 = 2.0088 BTC [-] [12:47]
pigeons we'll see how this goes ;) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131573.0;topicseen [12:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006282 = 2.7145 BTC [+] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.00062794 = 3.6427 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062679 = 4.8576 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2943 @ 0.00062428 = 1.8373 BTC [-] [14:07]
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pigeons hmm dunno how that mpoe short will go [14:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00063163 = 2.6566 BTC [+] [14:16]
jurov pigeons, maybe you can try issue bonds on bitfunder :D [14:19]
thestringpuller so pigeons did the mpoe short [14:24]
jurov on the other note, it's interesting how quickly it recovered [14:30]
pigeons no it wasn't me [14:39]
EskimoBob Ukto: posted a idea to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1409068#msg1409068 you can probably find useful too [15:09]
Ukto ah [15:09]
EskimoBob this is a simple fix to broken IPO market. [15:09]
Ukto working to fight javascript [15:09]
Ukto and its inability to do real math [15:10]
Ukto yeah [15:16]
Ukto thats all easy stuff [15:16]
Ukto if he says otherwise [15:16]
* Ukto shrugs [15:16]
Ukto I'll look at it late tonight, or over the weekend [15:16]
Ukto but the 'how to' do it is already written in my head. just gotta put it in :P [15:17]
Ukto and since you didnt post it in bf's thread, I dont feel the need to have to timestamp reply "Done!" :P [15:18]
jurov EskimoBob, I start to get impression these IPO "flaws" are completely in your head [15:19]
Ukto lol [15:20]
Ukto jurov: more shares have sold [15:20]
Ukto assuming final exams, and holiday dont hamper things [15:20]
Ukto should hit the minimal needed [15:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2036 @ 0.00062428 = 1.271 BTC [-] [15:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062247 = 1.4628 BTC [-] [15:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2664 @ 0.00062111 = 1.6546 BTC [-] [15:20]
Ukto which means next month should easily hit it [15:20]
Ukto assuming the bonds dont get eaten :P [15:21]
Ukto for december [15:21]
jurov for example users can resell the promotional MPBPT shares and thus make us sell less... but I don't believe it will be significant part nor give a shit about that. [15:21]
jurov Ukto, looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable [15:22]
jurov but anything can happen, ofc. some folks around have their doubts about mtgox ... and then all bets are off [15:23]
pigeons thanks for the jinx jurov [15:26]
jurov jinx? [15:27]
pigeons "looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable" [15:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062111 = 6.8943 BTC [-] [15:29]
Ukto what doubts about gox? [15:30]
jurov mtgox payout delays for some fiat currencies are going longer and longer [15:31]
Ukto thats normal news [15:31]
Ukto for a year and a half [15:31]
pigeons and black swans and stuff [15:31]
Ukto pigeons: I dont want to know [15:32]
Ukto :P [15:32]
pigeons :) [15:32]
jurov i don't understand people who put up with that. some year ago my sepa transfer took 2weeks, so i told fuck you mtgox and never looked back. [15:33]
Ukto alright [15:33]
Ukto i updated the calc feature on BF [15:33]
Ukto if the total btc to buy is more than available, it turns red [15:33]
Ukto if teh share amount to sell is more than available, then btoh the amount and total fields turn red [15:33]
Ukto text [15:33]
Ukto js is randomly bitching about the 7th and 8th decimal places tho [15:34]
Ukto 4 * 0.00000111 is fine.. but 4 * 0.00000011 = 4.4e-7 [15:34]
Ukto even though its the same number of places on the output [15:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2136 @ 0.00062111 = 1.3267 BTC [-] [15:38]
jurov Ukto, can't you convert stuff to satoshi as first step and back as very last one? [15:38]
Ukto going to have to [15:38]
EskimoBob jurov: i have a feeling, you have never ever participated in any real life IPO and you are way outside of your area of competence. :) [15:39]
Ukto just an annoying pita [15:39]
pigeons gotta start somewhere [15:39]
jurov EskimoBob, that is not an argument. instead you could have directed your energy into explaining why the "flaws" are so serious to warrant such bitching ;) [15:40]
EskimoBob Ukto: wht do you even fuck around with decimals? Not a good idea in any financial system [15:41]
jurov cause if so many people resell instead of going long, that is imho bad price setting, or the stock is considered risky for long-term investment, etc. [15:42]
EskimoBob jurov: did you blink for too long when reading it? The "flaw" is described ;) [15:42]
jurov nothing that can be solved by forbidding to resell during IPO [15:42]
Ukto EskimoBob: just on the web display [15:42]
EskimoBob jurov: I guess you have to read up what IPO is for [15:42]
Ukto since people type decimal format into a price box [15:42]
Ukto you have to start from decimal [15:42]
EskimoBob Ukto: but you still do math in that "layer"? [15:43]
EskimoBob yes, correct [15:43]
Ukto jurov: yes, turn the text price into satoshis, but when i go to divide bak to show it in decimal format, i still get 1e-7 & 1e-8 [15:43]
Ukto i do the mat at the sataoshi level [15:43]
Ukto not decimal format [15:43]
Ukto the issue is converting it back to decimal format for dispalying [15:43]
EskimoBob OK, i see, this is a display problem [15:44]
Ukto its javascript being shitty [15:44]
jurov Ok, I think there is some js formatting function, don't remember exactly [15:44]
Ukto i think I can do toFixed... [15:45]
Ukto mebbe [15:45]
Ukto or toPrecision [15:45]
EskimoBob https://www.google.ee/search?q=javascript+integer+to+decimal [15:45]
Ukto yes [15:46]
Ukto thats what I just said [15:46]
EskimoBob / Example: toPrecision(2) when the number has 5 digits (3 before, 2 after) [15:47]
EskimoBob / It will round to the tens place expressed as an exponential [15:47]
EskimoBob num = 555.55; [15:47]
EskimoBob result = num.toPrecision(2); // result will equal 5.6e+2 [15:47]
EskimoBob / Example: toPrecision(4) when the number has 8 digits (4 before, 4 after) [15:48]
Ukto yeah [15:48]
EskimoBob / It will round to the ones place [15:48]
EskimoBob num = 5000.2349; [15:48]
Ukto thats why I ended with tofixed [15:48]
EskimoBob result = num.toPrecision(4); // result will equal 5000 [15:48]
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Ukto EskimoBob: ive seen the apge :P [15:48]
EskimoBob is there a "round" or some crap like that for formatting the final number? [15:49]
EskimoBob function roundNumber(rnum, rlength) { // Arguments: number to round, number of decimal places [15:51]
EskimoBob var newnumber = Math.round(rnum * Math.pow(10, rlength)) / Math.pow(10, rlength); [15:51]
EskimoBob return newnumber; [15:51]
EskimoBob } [15:51]
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thestringpuller javascript is lame [16:09]
thestringpuller your code is bad and you should feel bad [16:10]
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gigavps lol [16:11]
Ukto agreed [16:13]
Ukto its all fixed now [16:13]
Ukto and working nice [16:13]
Ukto i think I will also put a light red background color in the text box [16:13]
Ukto just in case the red bold text isnt enough [16:13]
Ukto for to understand [16:13]
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Ukto there [16:20]
Ukto much nicer [16:20]
Ukto turns totals to red if insufficient funds or shares [16:20]
Ukto and changes the text box background color to a light red of the price, or share amount field thats in the wrong [16:20]
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evoorhees everyone excited for Christmas? :) [16:26]
thestringpuller i am writing you an xmas present mr. vorhees [16:29]
thestringpuller for coinapult [16:29]
thestringpuller lol [16:29]
[\\\\\\\] what's coming first: mayan end of the world or asic? [16:30]
Diablo-D3 who says thats mutually exclusive? [16:31]
evoorhees what do you mean, thestringpuller? [16:32]
evoorhees Mayan end of world comes first... it's on Friday [16:32]
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Diablo-D3 friday isnt end of the world, its just the end of being sober [16:33]
thestringpuller evoorhees: its a surprise for coinapult [16:37]
thestringpuller ;) [16:37]
evoorhees hmmm that makes me nervous [16:37]
EskimoBob thestringpuller: it's not my code :) [16:39]
evoorhees thestringpuller: is this a good suprise or bad suprise? [16:40]
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thestringpuller good surprise [16:44]
jurov thestringpuller is adding insta-doublespend function into his dice android client [16:45]
thestringpuller evoorhees: dont make me ruin the surprise tho! [16:45]
thestringpuller jurov got jokes and jokes [16:45]
evoorhees hehe [16:45]
evoorhees how do you guys think SatoshiDice makes money? It just double spends all the money back to people ;) [16:46]
thestringpuller lol [16:46]
evoorhees won't be discovered until the whole thing collapses on the day of the mayan apocalypse [16:46]
thestringpuller im making something to make coinapult a one click use [16:46]
evoorhees thestringpuller: do you know Ira, the developer of coinapult? [16:46]
pigeons hey goes by bearbones on here [16:47]
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EskimoBob wtf ... [WTS] Used Panties https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131030.0;topicseen [16:47]
EskimoBob LOL [16:47]
Ukto is he japanese? [16:47]
EskimoBob no idea [16:47]
Ukto evoorhees [16:47]
kakobrekla i had a few of those sold on my site [16:48]
Ukto got a sec to talk? [16:48]
evoorhees sure [16:48]
Ukto I was gonna poke terra but hes still off skype [16:48]
pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131030.msg1408408#msg1408408 [16:50]
kakobrekla hahaha [16:50]
kakobrekla panty-otc [16:50]
kakobrekla err [16:51]
kakobrekla wot [16:51]
thestringpuller evoorhees: no dont know him [16:52]
EskimoBob has anyone done business with ciuciu? [16:56]
evoorhees thestringpuller: well if you're actually doing something for coinapult I'd like to put you in touch with him [16:56]
EskimoBob never mind... [16:58]
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EskimoBob this is cool : http://blog.perunature.com/2012/12/new-species-of-decoy-spider-likely.html [17:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00061895 = 4.5183 BTC [-] [17:07]
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thestringpuller evoorhees: lemme get prototype out and we can have meeting [17:30]
thestringpuller its more of a ui wrapper for now [17:30]
thestringpuller its inspired from a blogpost you wrote on bitinstant during the brazil conference. [17:31]
jcpham howdy asshats [17:34]
jcpham i mean, assets [17:34]
EskimoBob lol [17:36]
EskimoBob nice one jcpham [17:36]
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jcpham it was a slip, i swear ;p [17:39]
kakobrekla the keys are right next to each other [17:39]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [17:45]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30711, Best ask: 13.38399, Bid-ask spread: 0.07688, Last trade: 13.30711, 24 hour volume: 24066.25823172, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.28970 [17:45]
EskimoBob jcpham: there is plenty of twitchy asshats around [17:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00061895 = 2.4139 BTC [-] [17:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00061742 = 0.247 BTC [-] [17:59]
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EskimoBob UPDATE:weekly dividend is set [18:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061875 = 2.6736 BTC [+] [18:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00061891 = 1.5132 BTC [+] [18:22]
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mircea_popescu evening all [18:32]
jcpham https://plus.google.com/116009350848067911037/posts/WS4c37YykE5 [18:41]
smickles good forenoon mircea_popescu :) [18:43]
mircea_popescu hammering out an announcement re s.mpoe [18:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061756 = 2.6685 BTC [-] [18:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7464 @ 0.00061742 = 4.6084 BTC [-] [18:43]
mircea_popescu and also check out all the love http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/#comment-91034 [18:44]
smickles mircea_popescu: well, I too think it would be better to value based on the free float [18:45]
thestringpuller MtGox will soon be eclipsed [18:45]
mircea_popescu smickles why ? [18:46]
mircea_popescu if i sell you one acre out of a 10 acre plot of land would you propose the value of the plot is based on your acre ? [18:46]
mircea_popescu rather than ~10x what you paid ? [18:46]
smickles because of the control you _can_ exert on the price [18:46]
smickles I think that both forms of valuation are important [18:47]
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smickles but considering that you own (and presumably won't sell) ~95% of shares, those 95% wouldn't be considered for a lot of market cap valuation purposes [18:48]
mircea_popescu well surely everything should be considered [18:48]
mircea_popescu but the presumption is false, which is why im writing. brb. [18:48]
smickles for example, the S&P 500 only considers free float market cap [18:49]
smickles one could consider the free float to be 50% of shares tho [18:49]
chippewa mircea_popescu: Good morning! [18:50]
mircea_popescu chippewa hi [18:50]
chippewa I'm Rodrigo with a new nick name [18:50]
smickles yeah, taking a strict definition, only 50% of shares are 'locked in' [18:51]
smickles I'm not aware of any institutional holders who would claim ownership and buy/neutral/sell position [18:52]
smickles !ticker s.mpoe [18:52]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059079 / 0.00061942 / 0.00063666 (697023 shares, 431.75 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053538 / 0.00063995 (102520389 shares, 54,887.71 BTC) [18:52]
smickles ;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000 - 500000000) [18:52]
gribble 309710 [18:52]
smickles ;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000) [18:53]
gribble 619420 [18:53]
smickles so there you have free float market cap followed by implied valuation [18:53]
smickles (as best as I can figure from all available information) [18:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1876 @ 0.00061891 = 1.1611 BTC [+] [18:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1374 @ 0.000619 = 0.8505 BTC [+] [18:54]
smickles mircea_popescu: unless, of course, you have made a statemtent that you don't intend to ever sell some of that available 50% (the remaining 45% iirc) [18:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061883 = 2.674 BTC [-] [18:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.000619 = 2.9582 BTC [+] [18:55]
smickles oh, and mircea_popescu even considering the quality of the source (investopedia): " [18:56]
smickles "The free-float method is seen as a better way of calculating market capitalization because it provides a more accurate reflection of market movements." [18:56]
smickles lol, wtf is a 'satoshisecond'? [18:58]
smickles what is that 2weiX going on about anyway? 5% cut? 10% cut? do they not realize you essentiall have a 95% cut? [18:59]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/smpoe-owner-shares-block/ << announcement. [19:05]
mircea_popescu because of the control you _can_ exert on the price <<< if I have 500k btc i CAN exert the same exact control on the price as if I had 1bn shares. [19:06]
mircea_popescu what difference does it make ? of course I have resources. so do others. [19:06]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: how did you get rich? [19:08]
thestringpuller did you rob someone? [19:08]
EskimoBob thestringpuller: who told you he is rich? [19:08]
mircea_popescu heh. no. [19:08]
thestringpuller srsly though howd you build your wealth? [19:09]
kakobrekla a coin at a atime. [19:09]
thestringpuller before bitcoin [19:09]
thestringpuller :P [19:09]
mircea_popescu by getting the biggest guns, aiming them well and sticking to it. [19:09]
* thestringpuller has read announcement [19:09]
mircea_popescu you know, sorta like i built mpex. [19:09]
thestringpuller secretive are we? [19:09]
thestringpuller so you are a gun smuggler? [19:09]
thestringpuller were* [19:10]
smickles thestringpuller: assasin [19:10]
mircea_popescu rockstar [19:10]
smickles as if i'd know tho [19:10]
thestringpuller i want to see btc fund a war [19:10]
smickles clearly, he made his monies as a blogger [19:10]
smickles i'd rather there wasn't a war [19:11]
thestringpuller even if it freed the north koreans? [19:11]
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mircea_popescu smickles you know, it was driving the romanians insane cause romanian incomes are really small and i was making a ton with the blog [19:11]
mircea_popescu in relative terms [19:11]
smickles thestringpuller: see, now you are putting conditions on it [19:11]
pigeons freed them to buy ipods? [19:11]
smickles thestringpuller: we ought to free ourselves a bit more before we get too concerned about koreans [19:12]
mircea_popescu how about they free themselves ? [19:12]
thestringpuller they made starcraft a science tho... [19:12]
mircea_popescu i ain't pissing for anyone else and neither am i freeing them. [19:12]
thestringpuller you dont like asian girls do you? [19:12]
mircea_popescu depends. if they're half-white or half-black i do [19:13]
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smickles dammit mircea_popescu be more subtle, the whole 'freeing ourselves a bit more' can go on indefinitely, we'd never actually get to the point of freeing koreans :P [19:13]
mircea_popescu lol [19:14]
mircea_popescu that is a point. [19:14]
thestringpuller how do we free ourselves from mental slavery? [19:14]
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smickles what mindgames are you on about now? [19:14]
EskimoBob thestringpuller: search his website address and word spam :) [19:14]
smickles ;;lucky polimedia.us spam [19:15]
gribble https://twitter.com/ro_spam [19:15]
mircea_popescu smickles but more's the point, were you aware of the sales plan for s.mpoe ? [19:15]
mircea_popescu lol [19:15]
EskimoBob loads of funny stuff pops up [19:15]
mircea_popescu for the record, that twitter is run by a webhost for whom I was providing a honeypot address. [19:15]
mircea_popescu they were trying to catch spam. [19:16]
jcpham derp [19:16]
mircea_popescu (was albinuta@polimedia.us) [19:16]
smickles mircea_popescu: the auction part, yeah, but since it changed, i've been unsure [19:16]
EskimoBob really? this is new [19:16]
thestringpuller smickles: bob marley mang: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" [19:16]
pigeons have no fear for atomic energy none of dem canna stoppa da time [19:17]
thestringpuller yes! [19:17]
thestringpuller how long shall they kill our prophets [19:17]
thestringpuller while we stand around and look [19:17]
smickles thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPKk3lINno [19:17]
smickles that's how [19:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061769 = 2.669 BTC [-] [19:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16186 @ 0.00061742 = 9.9936 BTC [-] [19:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4843 @ 0.0006151 = 2.9789 BTC [-] [19:17]
jcpham http://jcph.am/2012/12/19/temperance/ [19:17]
jcpham zuck donates 500 mil [19:19]
pigeons to zynga [19:19]
jcpham sorry i only skimmed the headline [19:20]
thestringpuller LOL [19:20]
thestringpuller zynga is gonna go bankrupt [19:20]
mircea_popescu I don't understand why people rag on mpex. They complain about btc related businesses getting compromised. They complain about bots manipulating the pricing and "fake" walls on mtgox. mpex doesn't have any of that crap and people bitch about it - I don't get it. [19:38]
mircea_popescu waaah, I want rounded corners and lots of slick js and css... [19:38]
mircea_popescu waaah, slick-xchange got 0day'd via cornerrounder.js and all the accounts are locked/stolen... [19:38]
mircea_popescu waaah, people who know nothing about security are creating btc websites and getting hacked... [19:38]
mircea_popescu waaah, mpex uses proven encryption but gpg is hard and the submit screen is plain... [19:38]
mircea_popescu waaah, bitcoin should be taken seriously as currency... [19:38]
mircea_popescu waaah, mpex is charging a fee for signup as if it was a real business but I want to slop 0.05 btc back and forth on options and 30 btc to open account is ridicuous.... [19:38]
mircea_popescu ok, that guy made my day. how do you tip people on reddit ? [19:38]
jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcointip/comments/13iykn/bitcointip_documentation/ [19:40]
mircea_popescu ty [19:41]
* jurov is waiting for eskimobob enragement over the mpoe announcement [19:41]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what reddit post are you talking about? [19:41]
thestringpuller EskimoBob is a scammer. [19:41]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/c7iz9rw [19:42]
mircea_popescu jesus this bitcoinstuff is ocmplex. anyone with the tipping set up want to send one for me ? [19:42]
pigeons i just learned EskimoBob doesn't have tourrette's ;) [19:45]
mircea_popescu jurov what now ?! [19:47]
jurov about eskimo or? [19:47]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: that was a funny comment [19:48]
thestringpuller but srsly why you use so much php? [19:48]
mircea_popescu about eskimo ya [19:48]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller how much php do i use ? [19:48]
thestringpuller on the mpex site [19:49]
thestringpuller its good php but still php [19:49]
thestringpuller ... [19:49]
* thestringpuller dislikes php these days [19:49]
smickles mircea_popescu: you forgot the 'waaah, mpex regularly makes people hundreds of btc, but I think derivitives are evil for no good reason and I didn't take the time to understand that bond thingy, so i'm jelly' [19:49]
smickles oh yeah [19:49]
pigeons occumpy mpex! [19:49]
mircea_popescu smickles i was just quoting. i could make that list five meters long [19:49]
smickles s/hundreds/thousands/ [19:49]
pigeons *occupy [19:49]
thestringpuller occupy mpex [19:50]
smickles OCCUPY MPEx! [19:50]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu is the one percent [19:50]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it makes pretty decent web stuff afaik. what can i tell ya. [19:50]
mircea_popescu noway. it says clearly on the return slips, i am the 94% [19:50]
thestringpuller we demand you equally distribute your wealth [19:50]
smickles thestringpuller: damn man it's worse than one percent, mircea_popescu is the 5%! [19:50]
thestringpuller because we are entitled [19:51]
thestringpuller for doing absolutely nothing [19:51]
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smickles ok, wait a sec [19:51]
smickles y(1=.2)**x [19:52]
smickles hmm, I retract my occupy statment [19:52]
thestringpuller lol [19:52]
smickles at this rate, i'll soon be in opposition :P [19:52]
smickles er, nix that =, replace with a + [19:53]
smickles shift key malfunction [19:53]
mircea_popescu so basically that idiot ver just sunk blockchain.info ? [19:53]
mircea_popescu what the fucking hell is this. [19:53]
smickles huh? [19:53]
smickles how? [19:53]
pigeons he calls himself "bitcoin jesus". seriously. [19:53]
jurov nothing about eskimo. just that he despises IPOs with tiered pricing that enable trading, cause what if the first investors resell, blabla... he's funny [19:53]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608 [19:54]
jcpham nootropics! [19:54]
mircea_popescu jurov yeah well, he thinks he knows stuff. [19:54]
* jcpham wastes money on mind drugs [19:54]
pigeons its been edited a bit by now [19:54]
mircea_popescu pigeons i find that the most objectionable of all. [19:55]
smickles wait, [19:55]
mircea_popescu tbh ver goes on my personal shitlist after this. [19:55]
smickles i can be part of this occupy mpex for 29.06 more months [19:55]
mircea_popescu not only is he dishonest, but he wants to lie about it. [19:55]
smickles :D [19:55]
mircea_popescu is he even in the wot ? [19:55]
pigeons my biggest problem is that he freaked out over 4 btc [19:55]
pigeons then its not so cool that he abused his pull with a seperate company to check on the dude's address [19:56]
mircea_popescu i don't care that he freaked out. [19:56]
mircea_popescu he can freak out till he's blue in the face. [19:56]
mircea_popescu he's getting hanged for this one. [19:56]
mircea_popescu and i'm not terribly enchanted with piuk either, he won't list it but he sells stakes to random asshats ? [19:57]
mircea_popescu pfff. [19:57]
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EskimoBob LOL. jurov, you are still going on about IPO stuff? Did I hurt your feelings some how? [20:03]
jurov no, exactly opposite. i found it hilarious [20:04]
Diablo-D3 wait, whats going on now? [20:04]
EskimoBob if you have questions, pleas ask but don't be a dick about it, acting all insulted and what not [20:04]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: are you going to add this to the drama timeline? [20:04]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller don't really intend to update it, maybe make another dec 2013 [20:05]
EskimoBob jurov: laughing is good. Helps you get over your problems [20:05]
thestringpuller we should make an analytic [20:05]
jurov eskimobob, i wrote my pionts/questions to btctalk [20:05]
EskimoBob where? [20:05]
thestringpuller about drama per btc per business [20:05]
thestringpuller we should call this unit the shapoopi [20:05]
jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1409299#msg1409299 [20:05]
jurov and deprived said similar stuff right after that [20:07]
EskimoBob jurov: you are right, it is funny [20:07]
mircea_popescu so basically what's this, failed issuer manages to not sell anything and wants market controls to prop his dubious venture ? [20:07]
mircea_popescu color me nuances of suprised. [20:07]
EskimoBob lol [20:08]
mircea_popescu pigeons ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131648.0 [20:08]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: have you ever actually bought a single share of stock in a real ipo in real world? [20:09]
mircea_popescu yes. [20:10]
* Diablo-D3 listens to the seatbelts - too good too bad [20:10]
mircea_popescu iirc i published account screenshots showing decent holdings a while back. did you ? [20:10]
EskimoBob So how come you are so clueless? [20:10]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: to be brutally fail [20:10]
Diablo-D3 you've said some questionable shit too [20:11]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob you know, most idiots in btc harp about how clueless i am. [20:11]
EskimoBob i do not harp abouted [20:11]
Diablo-D3 ENGLISH PLOX [20:11]
thestringpuller omg so much drama [20:11]
mircea_popescu but nice that you avoid the question [20:11]
thestringpuller what the fuck [20:11]
EskimoBob I do not have to. You do it yourself every fkn day, mp [20:11]
mircea_popescu i've shown 100 of k's invested. have you ? [20:12]
Diablo-D3 FULL POWER TO THE POPCORN ENGINES [20:12]
jcpham dmc mines exclusively on nvidia gpu's [20:12]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: nope, Im using a giant POWER cluster now [20:12]
smickles thestringpuller: Bitcoin's value is backed by drama [20:12]
thestringpuller so is high school [20:12]
Diablo-D3 smickles: huh. [20:12]
jcpham old jokes never get old [20:12]
EskimoBob lol [20:12]
Diablo-D3 smickles: you know, I think you might actually be right [20:12]
smickles little did you know, Bitcoin was actually an invention of the entertainment industry [20:13]
Diablo-D3 everytime Ive seen the price spike, theres been heavy drama in the forums [20:13]
kakobrekla they couldnt sell dvds no more, so they made bitcoin [20:13]
EskimoBob Diablo-D3: what is it now? [20:13]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [20:13]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25807, Best ask: 13.33999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08192, Last trade: 13.25807, 24 hour volume: 26701.70585636, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.29278 [20:13]
Diablo-D3 hey it works now! [20:13]
EskimoBob and what happened to pirate hunt? [20:13]
kakobrekla he paid [20:15]
jcpham hurrrr [20:15]
mircea_popescu lol [20:15]
EskimoBob sure [20:15]
EskimoBob to himself [20:15]
smickles gwaa, the AZ copr. comiss. should hurry up already [20:18]
smickles it'll be 5 weeks tomorrow [20:19]
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dub wat, EskimoBob is paying dividends on his art mining with no art mining equipment backing it [20:20]
dub scam [20:20]
dub its a weed and lentils ponzi [20:22]
* jcpham fonzischemes [20:26]
Ukto your ponzischeming? [20:28]
jcpham nah [20:28]
jcpham fonzi scheming [20:28]
jcpham http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/25585/is-my-developers-home-brew-password-security-right-or-wrong-and-why [20:28]
mircea_popescu dub lol you are just clueless. [20:29]
PeterL dub: You bring up a valid question, how is EskimoBob paying dividends if he is not making any profit yet? [20:30]
mircea_popescu PeterL because he bought one single share in a single irl ipo once. [20:30]
smickles -_- hmm, PeterL, hmm [20:32]
smickles will you not say 'valid question' validity is a property of arguments, not questions [20:33]
pigeons irrelephant [20:34]
mircea_popescu validity is a property of questions as well, as it's a property of statements in general [20:35]
jcpham i want to get drunk [20:35]
jcpham it's 35 minutes past noon [20:36]
smickles mircea_popescu: statements can contribute to validity if they are part of a valid argument :P [20:36]
smickles inb4 someone makes a scope argument [20:37]
mircea_popescu is $p[$q] =; 1: valid in php ? [20:37]
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smickles lol, by mere seconds [20:38]
mircea_popescu lol [20:38]
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smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, we're clearly disagreeing on founding principles :D [20:38]
PeterL they say the only bad questions are the ones you don't ask, so if he asked a question it must be valid, right? [20:39]
smickles ;;tslb [20:39]
gribble Time since last block: 4 minutes and 13 seconds [20:39]
smickles :| the miners hate me [20:40]
mircea_popescu PeterL don't take things too bad, people rib each other lots here. [20:40]
PeterL no, I was agreeing with you, I think [20:40]
smickles heh, yea, in fact, you could put me down by the fact that I was ribbing you with a flu flu philo position [20:41]
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smickles ;;calc log(1) [20:42]
gribble 0 [20:42]
smickles ;;calc log(2) [20:42]
gribble 0.69314718056 [20:42]
pigeons wait we don't really hate each other? [20:42]
mircea_popescu you and who ? [20:42]
smickles sit and spin pigeons [20:42]
pigeons better [20:42]
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smickles pigeons: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MPPzGbeDG-k/SqoP7Qriq7I/AAAAAAAAAoM/kaYVICDiIBw/s400/Sit'nSpin.jpg [20:43]
smickles all day [20:43]
pigeons i had one [20:43]
pigeons i liked to get dizzy [20:43]
smickles you know that's a sign of autism now? [20:43]
smickles dsm5 [20:43]
Ukto my kids have one [20:44]
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dub mircea_popescu, apparently running a mining bond without hardware to back it up is a scam, according to such experts as EskimoBob [20:44]
PeterL isn't a mining bond without mining equipment a scam? [20:45]
pigeons that's interesting, i thought it was just a natural manifestataion of the desire living things have to get high [20:45]
dub PeterL: if you say so [20:45]
Ukto hmm [20:45]
Ukto I got a diff sit and spin when searching [20:45]
Ukto http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/8/14/128947892570309773.jpg [20:45]
PeterL otherwise it would just be a ponzi? [20:45]
Ukto smickles: just for you http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1004/sit-n-spin-toc-memories-forum-tribute-demotivational-poster-1270962207.jpg [20:46]
mircea_popescu PeterL i guess it would depend on what info is used to establish payouts. but in any case it would heavily depend on the issuer's credit. [20:48]
dub the infos to hand is that payouts are established from the pocket of EskimoBob [20:50]
pigeons honest question. is there a difference between from his pocket vs. from stock sales? [20:51]
dub another pertinent question would be where are teh lentils, weed, deodorising crystals for the hairy women etc getting funded from [20:52]
dub hippies don't grow on trees [20:53]
pigeons they do around here [20:54]
mircea_popescu hippies grow on moss [20:56]
pigeons how do you know a hippie has been staying at your house? [20:58]
PeterL But if one is selling a "mining bond" without doing any ming, it would at least be dishones charaterization of what they are selling? [20:58]
pigeons he's still there [20:58]
mircea_popescu lol pigeons [20:58]
pigeons PeterL: some people were selling the btc output of x mhash [20:58]
mircea_popescu PeterL well it could be a synthetic short deal, which'd be fine. "i'll pay youy whatever mining pays you defined as X Y Z" [20:58]
EskimoBob girls, read the forum post [20:58]
PeterL yeah, I guess it depends on how exactly the agreement is worded [20:59]
dub PeterL: there were a number of 1mh/s bonds issued on glbse that were not backed (at least not fully) by actual hardware, the wording was that the bondholder would recieve btc equal to the output of 1mh/s [20:59]
EskimoBob PeterL: don't guess, read :) [20:59]
smickles Ukto: lol [20:59]
PeterL EskimoBob: are you using the term "girls" disparagingly? Seems kinda rude to 50% of the population? [21:00]
EskimoBob in this channel? [21:00]
EskimoBob population? [21:00]
pigeons why do so many hippies move to Oregon? [21:01]
pigeons they heard there was no work there [21:01]
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PeterL dub: The issue goes down to wether the investor is trying to just make money or increase the security of the network? [21:02]
dub PeterL: uh if the contract says you get the equiv of 1mh/s who cares how [21:03]
EskimoBob pigeons: and the weather is not too good over there [21:03]
dub PeterL: I'll asnwer that question for you, EskimoBob cared [21:03]
pigeons What kind of cigarettes do hippies smoke? [21:03]
pigeons yours [21:03]
dub which is why its funny that he is doing the same thing [21:03]
EskimoBob dub: how am I exactly "doing the same thing" [21:04]
PeterL pigeons: lol [21:04]
EskimoBob please enlighten me, dub [21:04]
PeterL EskimoBob: you are paying weekly dividends, yes? [21:04]
dub I wouldnt bother trying to actually explain it to him [21:06]
PeterL just checking to see if I have the correct facts ... [21:06]
dub I have to pay those form my own pocket for now. Obviously I can not nor do I plan to do this forever. Smiley [21:09]
dub This is why getting the coin together and ordering the equipment is really important. But hey, this is only the first week. [21:09]
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dub first week of the ponzi is always the hardest [21:11]
jcpham i'd like to hear more of the story of clipse myself [21:15]
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jcpham obviously he was gambling an entire pool's worth of coins [21:16]
PeterL who is clipse? [21:16]
EskimoBob it's probably good idea to post your questions to forum so I can answer them [21:16]
jcpham clipse is awol [21:16]
jcpham he ran a pool that paid higher than normal PPS [21:17]
jcpham he became more and more active on irc. until the end. [21:17]
PeterL sounds fishy [21:17]
jcpham now he is gone [21:17]
pigeons he said he paid more cause hopping. then theh money ended up with pirate. then he was gone [21:18]
jcpham i think he paid more because he had it at btcst [21:18]
jcpham and that's the only reason he paid more [21:18]
jcpham because he could afford to [21:18]
PeterL oh pirate keeps coming back to bite everybody [21:18]
jcpham clipse talked a lot of shit about selling virgin wallet.dat's with solo mined coins [21:19]
jcpham for south african [21:19]
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mircea_popescu how old was he incidentally ? [21:24]
mircea_popescu i always suspected late teens [21:24]
jcpham i sortof agree [21:24]
jcpham no clue though [21:25]
pigeons he had a pony avatar, so i'm guessing youngun [21:25]
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iz i think clipse lost a lot of money w/ the pirate thing [21:37]
iz or he was just a very angry opinionated guy [21:37]
iz or maybe both [21:37]
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dub someone doxxed clipse its in the forum somwhere [21:48]
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dub Neill Roelofse, 27 and he lives in Cape Town, Bellville. [21:49]
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mircea_popescu o that old [21:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061874 = 2.6736 BTC [+] [21:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4379 @ 0.000619 = 2.7106 BTC [+] [21:52]
mircea_popescu ok, X.IDIFF.DEC have just settled. [21:53]
mircea_popescu everyone please chekc make sure it went ok. [21:53]
dub telnet pe16 [22:00]
dub shit [22:01]
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EskimoBob Diablo-D3: did james sent out the new list? (in few last days) [22:05]
Ukto yes [22:07]
Ukto this morning/last night [22:07]
Ukto he completed alot of peoples lists [22:07]
Ukto sounds like they were non-glbse-claims even [22:07]
Ukto no btc addy was supplied for the person I talked to [22:08]
mircea_popescu what's that non glbse claims ? [22:08]
Ukto ppl who didnt claim [22:08]
Ukto two ppl have told me the new list, NOT yaml file, buy csv this time [22:08]
Ukto no btc addys, just email and share count [22:08]
mircea_popescu aha [22:09]
EskimoBob Ukto: OK, thanx. This is good news [22:09]
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mircea_popescu a looky there. [22:10]
mircea_popescu Namjies, i got a btc with your name on it, what addy do you want it at ? [22:10]
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pigeons dub uses telnet [22:11]
jcpham i use telnet-tunnel for secure [22:11]
pigeons i'm just picking [22:12]
EskimoBob telnet? brr... do people still use that stuff? [22:12]
pigeons he just wanted to see some routes [22:12]
EskimoBob why not ssh? [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061537 = 2.659 BTC [-] [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.0006151 = 5.523 BTC [-] [22:12]
dub theres plenty of stuff that only supports telnet [22:13]
EskimoBob probably so [22:13]
dub its not like its over the internet [22:13]
EskimoBob rrr... this cifs-utils samba drama [22:14]
* Ukto shh [22:14]
* Ukto shh's EskimoBob [22:14]
mircea_popescu dub and most of it has to do with cobol [22:14]
Namjies Eh fuck. ASICMINER has not resumed trading yet eh... [22:14]
mircea_popescu seems not. [22:14]
EskimoBob I'll sssshhh you back [22:14]
* jcpham telnets [22:20]
Namjies Well send there please 1PRsPqFgWjdbbDywFXvVTvp2hUUbDnMzKX [22:21]
EskimoBob Namjies: see pm [22:21]
* Ukto is more than happy to help asicminer trade again [22:21]
Ukto :P [22:21]
dub send what? some stolen bitcoinica coins? one sec [22:21]
Ukto dub: you admits it! [22:22]
Ukto Give it back! my preciousssss..... [22:22]
mircea_popescu dub i was owing him a bitcoin [22:22]
Namjies For about 1000 ASICMINER he wanted to short. [22:22]
Namjies But since it's not trading anymore... [22:23]
mircea_popescu thought it was 1300 or something [22:23]
Namjies That might be it. I kind of let those go after GLBSE closed and forgot the number since then eh [22:23]
mircea_popescu pity glbse closed. i was making nice dough shorting bullcrap [22:24]
dub I had a few of those, whats happening with them? [22:24]
mircea_popescu oh where art thou obsi [22:24]
dub was kinda hoping they would win the asic race and I could sell them for 10btc each [22:25]
mircea_popescu dub nobody wins the asic race. [22:25]
Namjies By the way, does that look better than last one? http://www.namworld.net/portfolio/bitvps.com/vps [22:26]
mircea_popescu o btw, did you ever release that statement ? [22:26]
mircea_popescu or rg was or what ? [22:26]
Namjies People apparently didn't like the 3d effect so I removed it. [22:26]
Namjies rg did release a statement, I believe [22:26]
mircea_popescu link ? [22:27]
mircea_popescu and not bad on the gfx. [22:27]
EskimoBob looks good now [22:28]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [22:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47493, Best ask: 13.50799, Bid-ask spread: 0.03306, Last trade: 13.47493, 24 hour volume: 34702.98997692, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.33504 [22:29]
Namjies Aye. I guess I'm not good enough yet at 3d effects [22:29]
Namjies Plus arij/phungus seems to like more simple designs. [22:29]
Namjies We might still go with v2 [22:30]
mircea_popescu in case anyone missed it earlier, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/smpoe-owner-shares-block/ [22:30]
Namjies Instead, but I'm trying to make something more potent if possible. And actually unique and custom. [22:30]
Namjies I don't get 5 credits per week. [22:31]
mircea_popescu usure ? [22:31]
mircea_popescu (the way it works tho, is you have 5 slots, and they expire in 7 days. so if you use all the same day you get 5 more in 7 days) [22:32]
Namjies Yes, I've been like 2 months without any credit every time I go on the blog [22:32]
mircea_popescu ugh [22:32]
mircea_popescu pm your ip [22:32]
Lyspooner will you take Euros? [22:33]
jurov Namjies, do you have admin console for switzerland, or just jerking over the site design so far? [22:33]
jurov could not get enough time from james to upgrade the kernel, or fix ipv6 address [22:34]
kakobrekla members of rota should get free credits. [22:34]
jurov hush, kakobrekla. i shall submit the FSA stuff on venetfx to rota. just for lulz. [22:35]
jcpham yes, how is the rota coming along [22:35]
Namjies ask phungus/arij, I don't have access to servers yet. [22:35]
Namjies I'll be doing design/tickets/management tasks. [22:35]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner only btc [22:36]
* Ukto gives Namjies some phungus [22:36]
mircea_popescu jcpham http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-first-roll-of-judges-december-2012/ [22:36]
mircea_popescu now we need litigants. [22:36]
mircea_popescu ppl pls to sue kthx [22:36]
Lyspooner any plans to list single-stock futures? imagine MPEX listing an option on MPEX that expires into MPEX shares [22:36]
kakobrekla jurov, go ahead, MP will just short it (the fsa) [22:36]
jcpham yay! [22:37]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner no because http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/#comment-91034 [22:37]
jurov kakobrekla, maybe rota will order FSA to register you promptly [22:37]
jcpham i'd like to say thanks and that these judges look impartial to me [22:38]
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mircea_popescu jcpham clean slate so far, so ya they do [22:40]
jurov or, on second thought, rota will ask fsa to UNregister you. so that you will stay completely outside of law as is proper in btcland. [22:40]
mircea_popescu i don't think fsa is advanced enough to have a pgp sign [22:41]
kakobrekla fsa has got nothing to do with bitcoin clients in the first place, it is as irrelevant as MNW's signature [22:43]
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kakobrekla brb [22:43]
pigeons aw no cosby [22:44]
pigeons speaking of MNW's signature, remember, only you back bitcoins [22:44]
jurov Namjies, are these phungus/arij in irc somewhere? [22:44]
jurov bitvps client area cert just expired [22:45]
pigeons jurov: #bitvps #bitcoin-otc [22:45]
Namjies indeed, #bitvps channel would be where to find us. [22:46]
jurov done [22:46]
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dub mircea_popescu: the judges sit for a year at a time? [22:59]
mircea_popescu yeah [22:59]
dub "disqualified for lack of proper form" heh [23:00]
mircea_popescu hm ? [23:00]
dub sounds like, did not show adequate commitment [23:00]
jcpham i misspelled adjudicator in mine [23:01]
mircea_popescu something likw that. [23:01]
jcpham i can only imagine how bad the denied application was [23:01]
mircea_popescu dude wants to judge must pgp [23:01]
mircea_popescu jcpham its in the thread [23:01]
dub in the team america sense of showing commitment [23:01]
jcpham ooooh [23:01]
jcpham i'm actually excited [23:01]
jcpham i hope no one ever has a dispute [23:02]
mircea_popescu lol [23:02]
mircea_popescu easiest 30 btc ever [23:02]
dub yeah, seems like a shitty job to me tbh [23:02]
jcpham it could turn ugly [23:02]
jcpham who knows [23:02]
dub but all power to those willing to do it [23:02]
mircea_popescu someone's gotta do it./ [23:02]
jcpham i think the judges are more than reputable [23:03]
jcpham excluding me of course [23:03]
dub of course, you're just a cunt [23:03]
* jcpham takes a bow [23:03]
* jcpham curtsies [23:03]
dub speaking of cunt, someone I work with drove into the carpark behind me today [23:04]
* mircea_popescu interjects a cunt [23:04]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135594840469.jpg [23:04]
dub in a gt86 [23:04]
dub i am a whole buttload of raspberry jelly [23:05]
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jcpham is that the frs? [23:05]
dub yeah [23:06]
jcpham i lurv [23:06]
jcpham i have the 1996 version [23:06]
mircea_popescu o so pirate paid ? [23:07]
dub yarly [23:07]
jcpham not that i'm aware of [23:07]
Ukto feel free to pay me. :P [23:07]
mircea_popescu jcpham but you got car :D [23:07]
jcpham did i just get made fun of [23:07]
dub wat is 1996 ver? [23:08]
dub oh supra? [23:08]
jcpham my supra predates pirate [23:08]
Ukto Undecided. Please check back later. :P [23:08]
jcpham by about 6 years [23:08]
dub supra != 86 tyvm [23:08]
jcpham bleh [23:08]
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jcpham it's as close as anybody will ever get [23:08]
jcpham coming from toyota [23:08]
* Ukto only had a 94 3rd gen rx7 :/ [23:08]
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jcpham i've only sat in one fr-s [23:09]
dub im waiting for the RC model to drop next year [23:12]
dub then I'll beg mrs dub to let me have one [23:12]
mircea_popescu what happened to telling her to go earn you one [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 64558 @ 0.0036 = 232.4088 BTC [+] [23:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00364467 = 6.0137 BTC [+] [23:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8927 @ 0.003699 = 33.021 BTC [+] [23:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 174865 @ 0.0036995 = 646.9131 BTC [+] [23:14]
mircea_popescu In India, for legal works, which has to be done by timely & correctly, we need to bribe 1000+ INR. [23:14]
mircea_popescu For illegal or other works, then maybe up to 10 times or more. [23:14]
dub possibly swap the engine from my corolla into it [23:14]
mircea_popescu cute. [23:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250000 @ 0.0036995 = 924.875 BTC [+] [23:15]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [23:15]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368019 / 0.0036995 (536763 shares, 1,975.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343144 / 0.0037 (7135181 shares, 24,483.96 BTC) [23:15]
mircea_popescu le yum. [23:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 25000 @ 0.0036995 = 92.4875 BTC [+] [23:26]
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midnightmagic jcpham: Oh awesome.. are you the guy who was telling off that guy with the camera in your face, and then who clipped buddy with your car? [23:30]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYtgXUb2kE [23:32]
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dub midnightmagic: sounds like a video of coingenuity that was floating around [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.0036995 = 425.4425 BTC [+] [23:39]
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midnightmagic Whoever the poor guy is, he's sitting outside and he keeps repeating, "Fuck OFF jason, fuck OFF jason, jason FUCK OFF." Except I'm not sure "jason" is the right name I'm quoting. [23:43]
EskimoBob intersango closed the GBP trading down for good [23:44]
EskimoBob I guess if you can not send out GBP to bank accounts, it is pointless [23:44]
EskimoBob LOL, the comment following: Great, now close the rest of the site. [23:45]
jcpham that's not me midnightmagic [23:45]
jcpham or i don't think it is [23:45]
jcpham i want to see this video [23:46]
EskimoBob now all they need to do is rename it to "3 stooges" and be done with it [23:46]
davout_ phantomcircuit said that people would be able to cash out with international wires with not-yet-known fees [23:46]
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EskimoBob davout: did you see the SEPA transfer fee? it's 10 EUR! LOL, it actually cost only 0.36€ [23:47]
mircea_popescu davout are they launching a real estate project ? [23:47]
EskimoBob wow! ART 42915@1.0 :) [23:49]
davout EskimoBob: SEPA transfer fees vary depending on the bank [23:49]
EskimoBob this is it, we are mowing forward [23:49]
davout EskimoBob: when bitcoin-central was still dealing with the fuckers at the Rietumu bank it was a whopping 15€ [23:49]
davout anyway, it all sounds fucked up [23:50]
EskimoBob so, we have 6026 shares of ART left for now [23:51]
EskimoBob this is just awesome! [23:52]
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