Forum logs for 18 Dec 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu boar sperm is sorta like sperm whale ? [00:01]
dub no [00:01]
dub boar sperm is why we eat bacon, sperm whale is why the sea is salty [00:02]
mircea_popescu o i c [00:02]
mircea_popescu no homo ? [00:02]
smickles yeah, pig is porcus in latin, not homo [00:06]
* smickles is now known as porcuscomedenti [00:07]
porcuscomedenti ;D [00:07]
mircea_popescu denti be teeth ? [00:08]
mircea_popescu dub i asked and cum isn't salty. [00:09]
mircea_popescu whatever you been eating ? [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063332 = 2.7366 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.0006336 = 10.5178 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6602 @ 0.00063463 = 4.1898 BTC [+] [00:09]
porcuscomedenti it's a widespread myth that cum is salty, iirc [00:10]
* porcuscomedenti is now known as smickles [00:10]
dub yeah I'll admit to not having first hand knowledge ehre [00:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063431 = 2.7409 BTC [-] [00:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00063463 = 9.2669 BTC [+] [00:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6946 @ 0.00063463 = 4.4081 BTC [+] [00:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063531 = 4.0025 BTC [+] [00:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006361 = 1.2722 BTC [+] [00:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9732 @ 0.00063617 = 6.1912 BTC [+] [00:18]
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PsychoticBoy dub you should get a taste then ;) [00:26]
dub I spend a considerable amount of time in the sea, we can just pretend teh myth is true [00:28]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [00:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.29000, Best ask: 13.29001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.29000, 24 hour volume: 72257.80506675, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.48500, 24 hour vwap: 13.19301 [00:29]
mircea_popescu pretty heavy volume for very little movement. [00:29]
dub thats a decent dip no? [00:33]
mircea_popescu coupla % ? not really much [00:35]
mircea_popescu and with that i bid you all a very good bowl of punch. [00:37]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [08:20]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi [08:20]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Dec 7 19:23:30 2012 [08:20]
-NickServ- You failed to identify in time for the nickname mircea_popescu [08:20]
* You are now known as Guest88142 [08:20]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [08:22]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi [08:22]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Dec 7 19:23:30 2012 [08:22]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [08:23]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00359628 / 0.0037 (877988 shares, 3,157.49 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340582 / 0.0037 (6489978 shares, 22,103.71 BTC) [08:23]
smickles mircea_popescu: you missed my redux of a cause de garcsons [08:24]
mircea_popescu o ? [08:24]
mircea_popescu dja mean des garcons ? [08:25]
mircea_popescu as in acausedesgarcons.com/ - Le blog gay des beaux garçons qui se mettent à nu ? [08:26]
smickles lol, you expect me to be able to spell french words? we're talking about me here :D [08:26]
mircea_popescu hehe [08:27]
mircea_popescu quite funny readding that reddit about mpex. [08:29]
mircea_popescu i get this feeling as if for many people bitcoin is pretty much the wtf gift that keeps on giving [08:29]
smickles well, i think that has to do with the fact that it's not 'established' yet [08:31]
smickles that establishment prolly having a lot to do with the volatility [08:31]
smickles hey! ya wanna know what my volatility mistake was earlier? [08:32]
smickles well, i wrote all the code myself, based off of theory [08:32]
smickles turns out i coded it for variance, not volatility! [08:33]
smickles lol [08:33]
smickles a simple change in input for sigma to sigma² fixed it [08:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28145 @ 0.00063171 = 17.7795 BTC [-] [08:38]
mircea_popescu ahaha [08:53]
mircea_popescu this is cute [08:53]
mircea_popescu so with the new inputs the differences from mpoe reduced or amplified ? [08:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.07713857 = 77.1386 BTC [-] [08:56]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.11328195 = 113.282 BTC [-] [08:56]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.15615809 = 156.1581 BTC [+] [08:57]
Ukto hey mircea_popescu [09:03]
mircea_popescu hey ukto [09:03]
Ukto whats the proper term.. for letting people "over bid" ? place total bids for more money/btc then they have ? [09:03]
Ukto I cant think of how to term it for some reason [09:03]
mircea_popescu margining them [09:03]
Ukto ah [09:03]
Ukto there we go [09:03]
mircea_popescu it's nothing you should do w/o adequate capital on hand. [09:04]
Ukto Sigh, most people wont understand the question [09:04]
Ukto i'll have to spell out the question on the faq [09:04]
Ukto Q: Can I put up more total bids than BTC/Shares available? (Margining) [09:05]
Ukto That sound reasonable? [09:05]
mircea_popescu you're going to seamlessly margin shares ? [09:06]
Ukto the answer is NO [09:06]
Ukto just trying to write the question is a format the even dumb ppl can understand [09:06]
mircea_popescu ahahah [09:07]
mircea_popescu Do you offer margin ? [09:07]
mircea_popescu No. [09:07]
Ukto yeah, then you get ppl who wont undertsand it and still ask if they can overbid [09:07]
Ukto :P [09:07]
Ukto Remember, BF has the retard users too [09:07]
Ukto :P [09:08]
* Ukto isnt lucky enough to be mpex and only have ppl with a clue [09:08]
Ukto or expect them [09:08]
Ukto to [09:08]
mircea_popescu Q: Can I put up bids adding up to more BTC than I have ? Can I sell shares I do not own ? [09:08]
mircea_popescu No. [09:08]
mircea_popescu This should go right after [09:09]
mircea_popescu Q. Is 1+3=4 ? [09:09]
mircea_popescu A. For most values of 4. [09:09]
Ukto :P [09:09]
Ukto kk, i got it covered [09:10]
Ukto ready for this? :P [09:10]
Ukto Q: Does the site allow Margining? [09:10]
Ukto A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset. [09:10]
Ukto Q: Can I put up more total bids than BTC/Shares available (Margining)? [09:10]
Ukto A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset. [09:10]
Ukto Q: Can I place bids/asks adding up to more BTC/Shares than I have? [09:10]
mircea_popescu *crickets* [09:10]
Ukto A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset. [09:10]
Ukto I don't think it will be missed. :P [09:11]
mircea_popescu lol [09:11]
Ukto If you are going to cater to retarded people, speak their language [09:11]
Ukto in as many forms as possible [09:11]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1406452#msg1406452 if you didn't see it [09:14]
Ukto yeah [09:15]
Ukto thats what I am working through [09:15]
Ukto alomst done with teh list [09:16]
Ukto :P [09:16]
Ukto about to post and let em know his wishes have been granted [09:16]
Ukto wasnt trying to call him dumb with teh faq questions [09:16]
Ukto was putting that in for others tho [09:16]
Ukto so i wont be missed [09:16]
mircea_popescu for my curiosity, why are you keeping weex and bf separate ? [09:17]
mircea_popescu doesn't it add to the overhead for everyone ? [09:17]
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mircea_popescu in other news, the forum delivers : "I destroyed my credit before i was 20. I need a fresh start. Bankruptcy attorneys in my area are telling me $800 for their service. I know i can do it myself for under $100 but i dont know what im doing." [09:17]
Ukto LOL [09:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.15599534 = 155.9953 BTC [-] [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.11311101 = 113.111 BTC [-] [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.07697019 = 76.9702 BTC [-] [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.17254855 = 0.8627 BTC [+] [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 495 @ 0.18305995 = 90.6147 BTC [+] [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00063171 = 10.2021 BTC [-] [09:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062847 = 2.7156 BTC [-] [09:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 462 @ 0.00062842 = 0.2903 BTC [-] [09:51]
Ukto https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1406815#msg1406815 <-- Requests answered [09:51]
Ukto Now.. to do jimmys request [09:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063149 = 2.7287 BTC [+] [09:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00063171 = 3.1522 BTC [+] [09:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1639 @ 0.00063658 = 1.0434 BTC [+] [09:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062871 = 2.7167 BTC [-] [10:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00062842 = 8.0124 BTC [-] [10:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00062523 = 0.9691 BTC [-] [10:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.0006216 = 1.6963 BTC [-] [10:20]
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maximian mircea_popescu: mpex says it doesn't recognize my signature [10:54]
mircea_popescu are you using old verion of pympex ? [10:55]
maximian yeah, but I just tried issuing a stat manually, and it failed [10:55]
mircea_popescu hum [10:55]
mircea_popescu replace [10:55]
mircea_popescu self.mpex_url = 'http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php' [10:55]
mircea_popescu with [10:55]
mircea_popescu self.mpex_url = 'http://mpex.co' [10:55]
mircea_popescu or else get the new version (does the same thing) [10:56]
mircea_popescu and let me know [10:56]
maximian ok I"ll try [10:56]
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Namjies Hey mircea [10:59]
Namjies What do you think of this? http://www.namworld.net/portfolio/bitvps.com/ [10:59]
mircea_popescu looks pretty slick [11:02]
Namjies Thanks. Trying hard. For now everyone else at BitVPS says http://wallet.bitvps.com/ is better. [11:05]
Namjies I'll still finish this one. Might take ~1 week of work. Hopefully it will get better. [11:06]
Namjies Otherwise I'm sure I'll find a taker for the template. [11:06]
mircea_popescu bulding stuff is how btc goes up, i'll tell you that. [11:07]
maximian mircea_popescu: I changed mpex_url, now it hangs when I run it. I tried issuing an order by following section 6 of the FAQ and pasted the clear signed message directly via the web interface, and it replies with "Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first." [11:08]
mircea_popescu ok this is weird. [11:09]
mircea_popescu ;;ident maximian [11:09]
gribble Nick 'maximian', with hostmask 'maximian!~maximian@S01062cb05d389a4b.vc.shawcable.net', is not identified. [11:09]
mircea_popescu please ident or else send me an email signed with the respective key [11:09]
maximian how do I ident? [11:09]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth with gribble [11:10]
maximian could I just send you the clear signed STAT command I issued? [11:11]
maximian ;;eauth [11:11]
mircea_popescu hm. listen, but you're not supposed to paste clearsigned stuff in there [11:11]
gribble (eauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. [11:11]
maximian I didn't [11:11]
mircea_popescu you're supposed to clearsign it first, and then encrypt it with the exchange's key [11:11]
mircea_popescu a ok [11:11]
maximian yep, I pasted the encrypted version [11:11]
mircea_popescu kk [11:12]
mircea_popescu email me somethign signed so i actually know it's you. [11:12]
mircea_popescu safety measure. [11:12]
maximian email addy? [11:12]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/office.jpg [11:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00368608 = 6.2663 BTC [+] [11:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4277 @ 0.00368848 = 15.7756 BTC [+] [11:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20023 @ 0.003699 = 74.0651 BTC [+] [11:16]
mircea_popescu if anyone's curious, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ [11:16]
maximian mircea_popescu: sent [11:17]
mircea_popescu maximian are you getting pms ? [11:35]
maximian sorry, was afk [11:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.003699 = 184.95 BTC [+] [11:36]
mircea_popescu a np [11:36]
dub ;;ident dub [11:38]
gribble Nick 'dub', with hostmask 'dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub', is identified as user dub, with GPG key id 110C3582E5C480CF, key fingerprint B2956C98270DCC89E2E94A17110C3582E5C480CF, and bitcoin address None [11:38]
dub wowow [11:38]
mircea_popescu ? [11:38]
dub I got around to registering [11:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062771 = 2.0714 BTC [+] [11:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062164 = 2.6861 BTC [-] [11:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6158 @ 0.0006216 = 3.8278 BTC [-] [11:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00061923 = 3.8213 BTC [-] [11:40]
mircea_popescu wd. [11:41]
Namjies http://www.namworld.net/portfolio/bitvps.com/vps [11:50]
Namjies clickable servers with specs inscribed for ordering [11:50]
Namjies I still need to make the specs styling. [11:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5284 @ 0.00061923 = 3.272 BTC [-] [11:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28766 @ 0.00061649 = 17.734 BTC [-] [11:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15603 @ 0.00063186 = 9.8589 BTC [+] [12:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00061649 = 1.8784 BTC [-] [12:42]
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EskimoBob Ukto: ping [13:03]
Ukto Pong! [13:03]
Ukto :) [13:03]
mircea_popescu is mpex slow for anyone ? [13:05]
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EskimoBob stop reloading that portn page mircea_popescu and it will speed up the rest [13:10]
EskimoBob :) [13:10]
mircea_popescu no, actually, i think some scriptkiddie is trying his version of a dos. the server's been doing 1-1.5Gbps for the past hour [13:10]
mircea_popescu doesn't seem to be doing anything tho [13:11]
EskimoBob tail and/or grep the logs and see [13:11]
EskimoBob did anyone receive the updated lists from James last night? [13:13]
EskimoBob too early to ask that probably, most are still sleeping over there [13:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00063302 = 6.2669 BTC [+] [13:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063657 = 2.7506 BTC [+] [13:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7145 @ 0.00063658 = 4.5484 BTC [+] [13:20]
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Ukto burnside: there? [13:28]
Ukto A friend on skype msgd me saying he got a claim email, logged into the 'trash' account, withdrew, and ended up with a ?-0.000195 balance. [13:29]
Ukto looks like the now 'free withdraws' is charging accounts the bitcoin transaction fee. [13:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40000 @ 0.003699 = 147.96 BTC [+] [13:32]
mircea_popescu mod6 maybe it's worth having a chat with http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet [13:35]
mircea_popescu they probably have some working encryption [13:35]
assbot [MPEX] [X.INKG] 244 @ 0.06858952 = 16.7358 BTC [-] [13:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061651 = 2.6639 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20483 @ 0.00061649 = 12.6276 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00061612 = 10.3816 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30003 @ 0.00061502 = 18.4524 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00061483 = 9.0073 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00061242 = 8.5739 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1572 @ 0.00061132 = 0.961 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00061129 = 8.2524 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00061086 = 6.7195 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7098 @ 0.00061056 = 4.3338 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00061011 = 1.6473 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12118 @ 0.00061003 = 7.3923 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00060983 = 20.3683 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00060981 = 7.8361 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36978 @ 0.00060942 = 22.5351 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00060923 = 13.6163 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8140 @ 0.00060923 = 4.9591 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1391 @ 0.00060908 = 0.8472 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17079 @ 0.00060901 = 10.4013 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90312 @ 0.000609 = 55 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10760 @ 0.0006088 = 6.5507 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30457 @ 0.00060872 = 18.5398 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2015 @ 0.00060866 = 1.2264 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22317 @ 0.00060852 = 13.5803 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00060846 = 13.021 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7071 @ 0.00060833 = 4.3015 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060833 = 0.6083 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14882 @ 0.00060832 = 9.053 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00060826 = 16.423 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9203 @ 0.00060799 = 5.5953 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00060789 = 13.1304 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00060758 = 10.7845 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00060758 = 17.0122 BTC [-] [13:40]
Ukto 0,o [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00060716 = 7.8931 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20638 @ 0.00060716 = 12.5306 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11348 @ 0.00060692 = 6.8873 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00060666 = 19.5345 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30910 @ 0.00060665 = 18.7516 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00060638 = 5.8819 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00060626 = 15.7931 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00060618 = 11.0325 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00060612 = 10.9102 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00060604 = 11.7875 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00060599 = 17.7555 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00060599 = 1.9295 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10353 @ 0.00060578 = 6.2716 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00060543 = 0.9687 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13125 @ 0.00060537 = 7.9455 BTC [-] [13:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00060513 = 18.638 BTC [-] [13:41]
mircea_popescu omg the jig is up [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00060482 = 2.6086 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26694 @ 0.00060471 = 16.1421 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20182 @ 0.00060468 = 12.2037 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00060437 = 9.9419 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00060405 = 10.3293 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00060386 = 14.7644 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18703 @ 0.00060354 = 11.288 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062202 = 2.6877 BTC [+] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00062237 = 2.7876 BTC [+] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060376 = 2.6088 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3297 @ 0.00060354 = 1.9899 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.0006034 = 13.1843 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22482 @ 0.00060295 = 13.5555 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00060291 = 7.1143 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21398 @ 0.00060289 = 12.9006 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00060286 = 2.2909 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00060278 = 13.2913 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00060256 = 9.641 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.0006023 = 14.3347 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23201 @ 0.00060199 = 13.9668 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00060164 = 9.5962 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00060146 = 14.7658 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00060081 = 11.4154 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12830 @ 0.00060079 = 7.7081 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00060052 = 5.4047 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00060029 = 22.1507 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00060015 = 8.102 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00059957 = 2.5482 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00059934 = 5.8136 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.0005993 = 7.0717 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15259 @ 0.000599 = 9.1401 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00059899 = 4.3726 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00059807 = 4.635 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19336 @ 0.00059804 = 11.5637 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00059792 = 1.8536 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00059784 = 10.0138 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00059782 = 13.451 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22370 @ 0.00059731 = 13.3618 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0005972 = 15.8258 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00059689 = 3.5217 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00059656 = 11.0364 BTC [-] [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00059655 = 1.9424 BTC [-] [13:42]
Ukto wtf [13:42]
pigeons someone taking profits to put into MPOE bonds [13:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22444 @ 0.00059655 = 13.389 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00059631 = 13.4766 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49100 @ 0.00059618 = 29.2724 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00059589 = 6.376 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00059566 = 6.1353 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00059565 = 10.4239 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00059556 = 14.6508 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00059541 = 17.9814 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9034 @ 0.0005938 = 5.3644 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27509 @ 0.00059329 = 16.3208 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00059328 = 6.9414 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00059325 = 8.4242 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00059201 = 1.776 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00059081 = 11.9934 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00059055 = 11.7815 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36009 @ 0.00059 = 21.2453 BTC [-] [13:43]
mircea_popescu maybe someone's shorting it [13:43]
mircea_popescu what's this been like 3-4mn shares ? [13:44]
mircea_popescu WHO LOANED THEM OUT! [13:44]
pigeons i would take profits, but what am i gonna buy? [13:44]
mircea_popescu pigeons this is why i don't add more assets. [13:44]
pigeons :) [13:44]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [13:45]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059 / 0.00061393 / 0.00063658 (3496257 shares, 2,146.48 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053446 / 0.00063995 (102053951 shares, 54,544.36 BTC) [13:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.003699 = 11.282 BTC [+] [13:45]
mircea_popescu heh, 1 day avg still over 61 so nyah! [13:45]
pigeons its just mircea_popescu trading with himself to try and look bigger than bfl [13:45]
mircea_popescu why, bfl is trading with itself ? [13:45]
pigeons they are doing something with themself [13:46]
mircea_popescu whens the next bfl dramadate ? 14th jan ? [13:46]
pigeons "won't ship before jan 14" so they are still on schedule when they dont ship then [13:48]
mircea_popescu sounds like bfl [13:48]
mircea_popescu how's your btcjam investments coming along btw ? [13:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00059 = 59 BTC [-] [13:48]
pigeons i made one to jurov which he promptly repaid and couldn't find any more [13:48]
mircea_popescu in a sense btc finance is locked down. too few worthy assets. [13:49]
Ukto I like that CoinBr.MPBPT fund on BitFunder. it looks like it will do good. >:P [13:50]
Ukto >,> <,< [13:51]
jurov haha, it promptly became >90% of bitfunder trade volume [13:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00059 = 13.7175 BTC [-] [14:04]
jurov hi mircea popescu, i'm checking your "bonds historical data" against my own spreadsheet [14:05]
jurov and Oct 12 ROI effective doesn't make sense to me [14:05]
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jurov or is here anybody else who invested in october bonds? [14:09]
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jurov *rereads october statement* indeed there was a loss and my spreadsheet lies :/ [14:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00058989 = 2.9495 BTC [-] [14:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00058988 = 2.625 BTC [-] [14:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1233 @ 0.00058982 = 0.7272 BTC [-] [14:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11469 @ 0.00059 = 6.7667 BTC [+] [14:28]
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mircea_popescu jurov do tell ? [14:57]
mircea_popescu a ok lol [14:57]
mircea_popescu now put it on reddit. [14:57]
EskimoBob btc diff has dropped back to september level. Lets see, when the fear kicks in and stops the fall. [15:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 100 @ 0.21 = 21 BTC [+] [15:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17707 @ 0.00059 = 10.4471 BTC [+] [15:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00058983 = 5.8983 BTC [-] [15:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 673 @ 0.00058982 = 0.3969 BTC [-] [15:37]
jurov what fear has to do with hashrate? [15:38]
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jurov mircea, as you wish: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/151ujm/mpoe_bonds_only_btc_investment_that_is_13_months/ [15:48]
mircea_popescu eee [16:01]
jurov lol [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00363031 = 4.1749 BTC [-] [16:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00362384 = 5.7981 BTC [-] [16:05]
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thestringpuller whoa when did spoe plummet? [16:30]
thestringpuller jurov: I wanna make an Android app for CoinBr [16:30]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller mod6 is working on an android app for mpex too [16:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00058983 = 5.8983 BTC [+] [16:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00058982 = 5.4263 BTC [-] [16:33]
thestringpuller can I be a part of it? [16:33]
thestringpuller I like Android programming [16:33]
thestringpuller LOL the jig is up [16:34]
mircea_popescu i imagine so, you should talk to him [16:34]
thestringpuller is this what you guys were talking about? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/151ujm/mpoe_bonds_only_btc_investment_that_is_13_months ? [16:35]
thestringpuller ;;calc 100000 * .1 [16:36]
gribble 10000 [16:36]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: lemme buy some trilemma credits real quick while you're around [16:38]
mircea_popescu sure [16:38]
thestringpuller how much per credit? [16:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.00058982 = 1.648 BTC [-] [16:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00058844 = 4.358 BTC [-] [16:40]
mircea_popescu a dollah gets you 1k iirc ? what's the page say ? [16:40]
thestringpuller MPOE needs another 4,000 BTC dividend month... [16:40]
thestringpuller yea [16:40]
thestringpuller so .1 BTC? [16:41]
thestringpuller what address do I send to? [16:41]
thestringpuller Lol "If you won't pay for nice things you can't have nice things because there can't be nice things." [16:41]
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jurov thestringpuller, let's talk about the app later, i'm going afk for few hours now [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00058844 = 5.5902 BTC [-] [16:46]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.23689, Best ask: 13.24600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00911, Last trade: 13.24600, 24 hour volume: 29923.83800899, 24 hour low: 13.02386, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.26171 [16:50]
Ukto jurov [17:10]
thestringpuller The MPOE bubble is popping unfortunately [17:10]
thestringpuller he's afk [17:10]
Ukto already sold almost 250 shares of the MPBPT [17:11]
thestringpuller Ukto how bout that FF7 ;) [17:11]
Ukto geg [17:11]
Ukto thestringpuller: havent had a chance, just added a depth chart to weex [17:11]
Ukto and other stuff [17:11]
Ukto so... [17:11]
Ukto whats up with MPOE? [17:11]
thestringpuller someone sold a lot last night into the bids [17:12]
thestringpuller well like 6 hours ago or something [17:12]
Ukto yeah, i saw that [17:12]
Ukto dnt know why tho [17:12]
thestringpuller someone borrowed a bunch and closed a short? [17:12]
jcpham http://codinginmysleep.com/how-i-was-almost-adam/ [17:13]
mircea_popescu 250 shares = 250 btc ? [17:13]
jcpham like that blawg [17:13]
Ukto mircea_popescu: 25btc [17:14]
mircea_popescu so 1/4 of minimum done. this is pretty good. [17:15]
Ukto well [17:15]
Ukto more like 20btc [17:15]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/151ujm/mpoe_bonds_only_btc_investment_that_is_13_months/ vote jurov's reddit lol [17:15]
Ukto so 1/5th in under 24hrs [17:15]
Ukto i had a new user [17:15]
Ukto prolly came from that [17:16]
Ukto in ru [17:16]
Ukto he broke his weex link [17:16]
Ukto deposited 1btc into BF [17:16]
Ukto it clearly told him it was not broken [17:16]
Ukto i watched in teh logs as he forced it :P [17:16]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: given the way the auction system works [17:16]
Ukto then he sent in a ticket [17:16]
thestringpuller wouldn't I be guarenteed to be a bond holder if I put an interest of 1% [17:16]
Ukto "no deposit! not instant! you lied?!?" [17:16]
Ukto within 3 minutes I replied that it was fixed and his deposit was available [17:17]
Ukto and that his broken shit is fixed [17:17]
kakobreklaa how can you break weex link? [17:17]
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thestringpuller ;;google weex link [17:18]
gribble Cisco WebEx Web Conferencing, Online Meetings, Desktop Sharing ...: ; Knowledge Base - My Resources - WebEx: ; Webex connect Download |299844 - Cisco Support Community: [17:18]
Ukto lol [17:18]
Ukto the weexchange merchant link [17:18]
Ukto you dont deposit/withdraw btc to BF [17:18]
Ukto you have to signupo for an account at weexchange :D [17:18]
pigeons you are the weex link. goodbye [17:18]
mircea_popescu lol ukto, nice story. [17:18]
kakobreklaa pigeons :DD [17:19]
Ukto mircea_popescu: I am surprised as hell, no one has made a big deal out of having to sing up for weexchange [17:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5494 @ 0.00058844 = 3.2329 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24854 @ 0.00058738 = 14.5987 BTC [-] [17:19]
Ukto ppl have asked if it was safe.. [17:19]
thestringpuller maaaan [17:19]
mircea_popescu you have no idea what i'm dealing with. [17:19]
Ukto but none have been mad [17:19]
thestringpuller MPOE just won't recover [17:19]
pigeons and i want to murder the happy couple on the login page [17:19]
thestringpuller maybe tomorrow someone will buy up a bunch of shares [17:19]
Ukto mircea_popescu: did you release some earlier? :P [17:19]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller people have had a lot of grief waiting with mpex lol [17:19]
kakobreklaa 16:18.30 ( Ukto ) you dont deposit/withdraw btc to BF [17:20]
kakobreklaa wait what [17:20]
kakobreklaa in order to fund BF account [17:20]
kakobreklaa i must send to weex? [17:20]
Ukto pigeons: I have a slightly diff pic. same couple, diff pose. :P [17:20]
Ukto kakobreklaa: damn straight [17:20]
kakobreklaa lulz [17:20]
mircea_popescu Ukto http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135583607960.jpg use her. [17:20]
Ukto weex has had almost 100+ new signups in a week [17:20]
Ukto is that teh girl in the park or w/e? [17:20]
Ukto bending over? :P [17:20]
jcpham nice [17:20]
Ukto oh, nope [17:21]
mircea_popescu it's one of the girls bending over. as girls are wont to do. [17:21]
kakobreklaa being silly to your users is nothing to brag about [17:21]
Ukto what is that blurred out thing next to her? a kid? [17:21]
Ukto oh [17:21]
Ukto advertisements [17:21]
Ukto i see it on some bottles now [17:21]
pigeons omg does cicicicicu know you have nekkid pictures? [17:21]
kakobreklaa mircea_popescu omfg why the fuck are the drinks censored [17:22]
kakobreklaa "you can watch pussy but you cant watch coke" [17:22]
Ukto yeah [17:22]
Ukto thats what confused me [17:22]
Ukto oh man. I just realised both popular assets on BF rely on mpex :P [17:23]
Ukto .. GO MPEX GO! :P [17:23]
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jcpham i like weex [17:25]
jcpham especially those instant payouts [17:26]
mircea_popescu drinks are bad mkay [17:26]
pigeons ooh how about weex->mpex vendor link [17:26]
Ukto define mpex vender? [17:26]
pigeons same as hp or bf [17:27]
Ukto I will be opening the merchatn api in jan/feb [17:27]
jcpham https://vimeo.com/54180438 [17:27]
jcpham weex and hashpower get featured in that video [17:27]
Ukto pigeons: yeah, but what other sites? [17:27]
jcpham hurry and watch it before i mark it private again [17:27]
pigeons just say, "i will be opening the merchant api when bfl ships" [17:27]
Ukto This is a private video. [17:28]
pigeons Ukto: the mpex site [17:28]
jcpham Babab [17:28]
jcpham gogogogo [17:28]
jcpham quick [17:28]
Ukto pigeons: talk to the boss man over there [17:28]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/idiots-and-socialists-kill-people-armed-citizens-save-lives/ [17:28]
Ukto jchysk: whos video si that? [17:29]
Ukto yours? [17:30]
jcpham too much of mine [17:30]
Ukto and why does it look like old 35mm film? [17:30]
jcpham didn't edit myself out enough [17:30]
kakobreklaa is shaking like a crack whore deprived of crack [17:30]
jcpham because it needs to look old because the music is old [17:30]
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Ukto theres music? [17:31]
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kakobreklaa music is good :) [17:31]
Ukto i dont even see an vol control on the video [17:31]
kakobreklaa go mouseover it [17:31]
jcpham vimeo sucks [17:31]
jcpham youtube pulled it because of coptright [17:31]
Ukto copyright?? [17:31]
Ukto whos rights dfid you infringe on ? [17:31]
Ukto rfngjkdghd? [17:32]
kakobreklaa pink floyds [17:32]
Ukto oh [17:32]
Ukto AHH [17:32]
Ukto i can guess the song then [17:32]
Ukto :P [17:32]
Ukto based on all the $$'s [17:32]
kakobreklaa :) [17:32]
Ukto yeah, you should def. add bitfunder :P [17:33]
Ukto I guess the russian is happy [17:34]
Ukto already spent his whole 1btc [17:34]
Ukto :P [17:34]
Ukto all but like 4k satoshi [17:34]
Ukto on sdice no less [17:34]
Ukto guess he wasnt from reddit :P [17:35]
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kakobreklaa ;;ticker s.dice [17:37]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message) [17:37]
kakobreklaa !ticker s.dice [17:37]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00360924 / 0.0037 (984870 shares, 3,554.64 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00341118 / 0.0037 (6611778 shares, 22,553.98 BTC) [17:37]
jcpham poorly edited [17:37]
jcpham shot with cell [17:37]
jcpham edited with http://www.openshotvideo.com/ [17:39]
jcpham i actually did all that to test the software [17:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00058971 = 2.5481 BTC [+] [17:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18428 @ 0.00059 = 10.8725 BTC [+] [17:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2601 @ 0.00059017 = 1.535 BTC [+] [17:43]
thestringpuller there we go [17:44]
thestringpuller lol [17:44]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13469484178.jpg now this is what i call limo service. [17:51]
thestringpuller yay porn [17:53]
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mircea_popescu pigeons theres one for you http://paracoin.com/ [17:57]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [17:59]
gribble Time since last block: 18 minutes and 15 seconds [17:59]
thestringpuller where do you find this shit mircea? [17:59]
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mircea_popescu i have people [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00058998 = 2.5493 BTC [-] [18:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7808 @ 0.00059017 = 4.608 BTC [+] [18:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28871 @ 0.00059079 = 17.0567 BTC [+] [18:05]
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Ukto re: limo pic, her hand is super scary looking [18:18]
mircea_popescu kinda gnarly [18:19]
mircea_popescu maybe she's a pianist [18:19]
Ukto besides: http://betsofbitco.in/ is a better site for betting [18:19]
Ukto i think [18:19]
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kakobreklaa theres a better one. [18:22]
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mod6 mircea_popescu: thanks for the link. i actually like Spinner much better and I've been looking through some of their code - the schildbach has lost my btc at least 2x. [18:50]
mod6 Spinner has been pretty great for me so far... and I've been looking through the code. Its using the BCCAPI which has some KeyManagement stuff in there. [18:52]
mod6 I need to look into it more. [18:53]
mircea_popescu cool [18:53]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [18:53]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 58 seconds [18:53]
Doffx Cool, made 20% return on my Sdice. [18:53]
Doffx Took longer than I wanted but im happy to come out ahead. [18:53]
kakobreklaa playing it? [18:54]
Doffx No, on my passthrough [18:54]
mircea_popescu you have a passthrough too ?! [18:55]
mircea_popescu o wait, you held shares nm [18:55]
Ukto did sdice just issue divs? [18:56]
Ukto Doffx: or do youmean from terras ? [18:57]
Doffx No mine all sold on bitfunder [18:57]
smickles lol: https://twitter.com/icbit_trades [18:57]
Doffx At a good profit [18:57]
Doffx Divs for Sdice is like on the 5th or 4th of each month I thought [18:58]
Ukto smickles: https://twitter.com/BitFunder ;) [18:58]
mircea_popescu ya [18:58]
smickles last night, i was dreaming that I needed to wake up for the s.dice divs [18:58]
mircea_popescu aww! [18:58]
Ukto LOL [18:58]
Ukto your concentrating too much [18:58]
mircea_popescu ok so a guy paid for trilema credits two hours ago. i credited him. transaction still unconfirmed [18:59]
smickles Ukto: have you told kakobreklaa , is it going to be pulled into assbot ? [18:59]
mircea_popescu I WAS SCAMMED [18:59]
Ukto smickles: he wunt do it [19:00]
kakobreklaa lol [19:00]
Ukto cause twatter will done day end the api [19:00]
Ukto :P [19:00]
kakobreklaa whats wrong with you people [19:00]
Ukto smickles: i made that format just so all he would have to do is swing the old glbse code to it :P [19:00]
smickles Doffx: section e and f explain it in detail http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE [19:00]
Ukto apparently its too much work >:P~ [19:00]
Doffx Its ok smickles I no longer own any. [19:01]
kakobreklaa twitter is no good, it eating trades even if the msgs are unique ( mircea_popescu made the complaint) [19:01]
kakobreklaa i already wrote new api for this shit that is made for just for it [19:01]
Ukto ah [19:01]
Doffx It will now be put in to my master plan investment [19:01]
Ukto i figured twatter just didnt like MP either :P [19:01]
kakobreklaa and i told this at least 3 times in the chan [19:01]
kakobreklaa this is the last time. [19:01]
jcpham http://mpex.co/ is a url redirect [19:01]
jcpham ? [19:01]
smickles kakobreklaa: i know, but something is infinitely better than nothing [19:02]
Doffx I am finally 15 BTC in the Green after all my equipment and investments [19:02]
Ukto I honestly dont care about twatter [19:02]
Doffx Christmas came early [19:02]
smickles mircea_popescu: did you check to see if you got double spent? [19:02]
kakobreklaa smickles lets just do it the proper way. [19:02]
mircea_popescu smickles nah. .1 btc [19:04]
smickles mircea_popescu: i mean to say that it would be interesting if you were double spent [19:05]
mircea_popescu a a [19:05]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131373.msg1407273#msg1407273 [19:05]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [19:05]
mircea_popescu -pr is now favicon [19:05]
smickles lol [19:06]
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Ukto 4,200 of the g.sdice asset just traded on BF [19:12]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101838.msg1407306#msg1407306 [19:12]
mircea_popescu why is shrem so defensive [19:12]
pigeons "Posting in this thread and coming up with opinions and ideas are stupid and just distract us from the real work we need to do. [19:14]
Ukto oh.. i see lol [19:14]
mircea_popescu i think maybe he's working more than 8 hour days [19:14]
mircea_popescu which is unhygienic. [19:14]
pigeons uhoh, he said my magic words though [19:14]
pigeons "We have posted many updates, always been transparent, never scammed anyone, and always have done what we say we will do. " [19:15]
mircea_popescu any girls here willing to lend a consoling tit ? [19:15]
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kakobreklaa 18:12.02 ( Ukto ) 4,200 of the g.sdice asset just traded on BF < assbot de manual. [19:18]
kakobreklaa :) [19:18]
mircea_popescu hahaha [19:18]
Ukto <-- assHOLE [19:20]
thestringpuller You are ukto [19:22]
thestringpuller cause you don't want to get me no FF7 [19:22]
thestringpuller WAAAAAh [19:22]
thestringpuller WAAAAAh [19:22]
thestringpuller <- crybaby [19:22]
Ukto lol [19:22]
Ukto i got like 13 things to get done today :P [19:22]
jcpham better get started [19:22]
Ukto I have to now drop off some bday invites for the kids party @ school [19:22]
Ukto cause wife didnt send em [19:22]
Ukto dumbass.. -_- [19:23]
jcpham replace her! [19:23]
thestringpuller make your wife find the FF7 [19:24]
thestringpuller ;) [19:24]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: the .1 btc should be confirming now [19:26]
thestringpuller 2 confirmations [19:26]
thestringpuller I'm a cheap schmuck and don't give no fees to no miners [19:26]
mircea_popescu i got like 13 things to get done today :P << it is impolite to refer to women as "things" [19:26]
mircea_popescu they are people too you know. [19:26]
thestringpuller mod6: you still around? [19:28]
Ukto mircea_popescu: shh [19:28]
Ukto my wife might hear you [19:28]
mircea_popescu she doesn't believe women are people ? [19:28]
Ukto jcpham [19:40]
Ukto you still there?> [19:40]
jcpham yes [19:40]
Ukto can you unlock that video again? [19:40]
Ukto wanted to show Doffx :P [19:40]
Doffx I need a tutorial on wex [19:40]
Doffx weex too [19:40]
* Ukto hands Doffx a box of matches [19:40]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/let-me-show-you-why-i-like-bitcoin/ < Ukto you're there. so is pigeons and thestringpuller fellow [19:40]
Ukto just click 'use' on the box and point at weex [19:41]
Ukto :P [19:41]
jcpham i did a bad job editing my name out [19:41]
thestringpuller I'm so glad I bought Trilemma credits [19:42]
thestringpuller Oh God this article was worth the break [19:42]
mircea_popescu lol [19:43]
Doffx Haha Pink Floyd I love it aleady jcpham [19:43]
thestringpuller AAPL went down 30% [19:43]
thestringpuller when the foxconn scandal happened [19:44]
thestringpuller Mr. Cook should have said: "The Jig is up" [19:44]
mircea_popescu :D [19:44]
mircea_popescu would have kicked ass [19:44]
thestringpuller Some guy representing a firm came on the news shortly after the drop from nearly 700+ a share to 500 a share and said, "We have faith in AAPL, we have begun selling puts for the winter season" [19:45]
* thestringpuller facepalm [19:45]
thestringpuller I do wonder Mr. Popescu, where is all that BTC going to end up? [19:46]
Doffx Its ok apple will Litigate themselves some more profit and all will be ok [19:46]
Doffx Great little vid jcpham [19:46]
jcpham except it has my nick in it in a few places [19:47]
jcpham but yeah [19:47]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller donated to the foundation i'm sure [19:47]
thestringpuller it's a good theory though to dump profits from MPOE and put it into MBOR bonds given the statistics [19:49]
thestringpuller Also: "Icbit.se offers a BTC/USD future which I wouldn’t however recomend." Makes me lol [19:49]
thestringpuller you tore the owner a new one if I recall [19:49]
mircea_popescu in their defense they did pay up [19:49]
mircea_popescu so maybe they fix ti for the future [19:49]
thestringpuller like GLBSE fixed it? [19:50]
thestringpuller :P [19:50]
mircea_popescu well who kniows [19:50]
thestringpuller I guess the way I see it, is broad spectrum MPEX is the only thing I haven't lost money on. [19:51]
mircea_popescu well, never too late to start. [19:51]
thestringpuller trust and loyalty are hard things to build in a world with little regulation [19:51]
thestringpuller with the insurance geniuses, and welfare kids who think they are brilliant stock brokers... [19:52]
mircea_popescu true [19:53]
thestringpuller your barriers to entry are proven I'd say [19:53]
mircea_popescu so far. [19:54]
thestringpuller august was a tough month eh? [19:56]
mircea_popescu pirate month. [19:57]
thestringpuller "I. MPOE a suferit ceea ce s-ar putea foarte bine sa fie insider trading." <- I'm more referring to. [19:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00059079 = 0.0024 BTC [+] [19:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00059227 = 1.303 BTC [+] [19:58]
mircea_popescu you know there's an english version underneath [19:59]
thestringpuller Ah. But what of this insider trading? [20:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059964 = 2.591 BTC [+] [20:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12829 @ 0.0005998 = 7.6948 BTC [+] [20:01]
thestringpuller It sound like someone who knew pirate was going to default, manipulated the options market... [20:03]
mircea_popescu tis possible. [20:05]
mircea_popescu http://www.nanaimogold.com/ win [20:06]
thestringpuller I've been reading your code review business idea article again [20:11]
thestringpuller I didn't realize it was specifically targeted to BTC based code projects. [20:12]
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mircea_popescu yea [20:12]
thestringpuller It sounds like something that MTGox really needed... [20:14]
thestringpuller heh [20:14]
mircea_popescu yeah [20:14]
thestringpuller I guess it makes sense. For example the issue they found in Ukto's code on bitfunder [20:15]
thestringpuller with the bid issue [20:15]
mircea_popescu there's numerous examples. [20:16]
thestringpuller the insurance side is where the real profitability comes in [20:16]
mircea_popescu it'd have saved the bitdaytrade investors 4k btc if they insisted on an audit [20:16]
mircea_popescu and had where to have the code audited [20:17]
thestringpuller but how does one compete with say Norton? [20:17]
thestringpuller or other security firms who do this for contracts worth millions [20:17]
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thestringpuller the whole "it's cheaper in BTC" [20:17]
mircea_popescu nobody at norton has a clue abouyt bitcoin [20:17]
kakobreklaa bitdaytrade would have never go out live if it would be a subject of code review [20:17]
mircea_popescu exactly. [20:18]
thestringpuller but it's all about reputation [20:18]
thestringpuller if someone creates and exchange [20:19]
thestringpuller gets audited by this company, its the willingness to ensure your audit? [20:19]
thestringpuller that gives you credibility? [20:19]
thestringpuller because my biggest fear is what if you don't catch that small bug [20:20]
mircea_popescu well, you get the audit and possibly insurance. [20:20]
thestringpuller someone injects some assembly and finds a huge bug [20:20]
thestringpuller millions of dollars lost [20:20]
mircea_popescu sure. [20:20]
thestringpuller you'd have to have thorough penetration testing before the audit is "approved" [20:20]
mircea_popescu insurance is insurance. [20:20]
thestringpuller possibly even continuation ethical hacking [20:20]
mircea_popescu the point of insurance is to mitigate disasters not to avoid them. [20:21]
thestringpuller insurance companies don't make money by paying claims... [20:21]
thestringpuller they mitigate risks to the point the exposure is minimal [20:21]
mircea_popescu anyone knows who owns walletbit.com ? [20:21]
kakobreklaa its not about making it unhackable, is about making it hard enough to do [20:21]
pigeons mircea_popescu: kreal [20:21]
mircea_popescu aha [20:21]
mircea_popescu ty [20:21]
thestringpuller walletbit may overtake bitpay [20:23]
thestringpuller kakobreklaa: onions huh? [20:24]
kakobreklaa hm? [20:24]
thestringpuller your security needs to be like an onion [20:24]
kakobreklaa http://xkcd.com/538/ [20:24]
thestringpuller Isn't that what Russians do? [20:25]
kakobreklaa im close. [20:26]
thestringpuller kidnap people and beat them over the head with turnips [20:26]
thestringpuller until they give up passwords [20:26]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [20:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22870, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12129, Last trade: 13.21656, 24 hour volume: 28522.62314613, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.26900 [20:27]
pigeons carrots > turnips [20:27]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I'm going to make a ticker app for MPEX when I go on vacation [20:27]
mircea_popescu haha cool [20:27]
thestringpuller Enough information is public that you can just poll it [20:28]
kakobreklaa he does have an api... [20:28]
thestringpuller I'm still mad that you use PHP but I"ll get over it [20:28]
thestringpuller I like hacks :P [20:28]
pigeons don't use the api, scraping ftw [20:28]
kakobreklaa its not a hack its stupidtiy [20:28]
kakobreklaa if you gonna parse html [20:28]
kakobreklaa when api is there [20:28]
thestringpuller o/ put it there pigeons [20:28]
thestringpuller Back in my day we didn't have API's for everything [20:29]
thestringpuller we had to actually parse strings and shit [20:29]
kakobreklaa aha [20:29]
kakobreklaa first you pulled the string [20:29]
kakobreklaa the you parsed it [20:29]
kakobreklaa you sting parser you. [20:29]
kakobreklaa then* [20:30]
kakobreklaa ah well [20:30]
kakobreklaa off to the store. [20:30]
mircea_popescu well let's break the news to thestringpuller [20:30]
thestringpuller is it bad news doc? [20:30]
thestringpuller I got cancer don't I? [20:30]
mircea_popescu mpex.co/mpex-vwap.php [20:30]
kakobreklaa if you are going to parse html do it with regex so its at least completley wrong [20:31]
thestringpuller XD [20:31]
mircea_popescu kakobreklaa why not replacestr or w/e it's called [20:31]
thestringpuller that's what I was planning to do [20:31]
mircea_popescu sorta halfway regex [20:31]
kakobreklaa stupid mans regex [20:31]
thestringpuller or you could just use awk or sed [20:31]
jcpham scrape all content with sed [20:32]
mircea_popescu sedawk all the girls. [20:32]
jcpham or awk [20:32]
jcpham one time i wrote some wget scripts to scrape the funny images from 8 differnet funny image sites [20:33]
jcpham the next morning i hat 400,000 funny jpgs [20:33]
kakobreklaa and it wasnt funny. [20:33]
jcpham no, no it wasn't [20:33]
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thestringpuller XD [20:34]
mircea_popescu one time i made some wget scripts to fuck with technorati. the next morning i had the #1 spot. [20:34]
jcpham way way wack [20:35]
[\\\\\\\] one time, I made some shit up in an irc channel and bragged about it [20:35]
thestringpuller is that you imsaguy? [20:35]
jcpham you make me cry [20:35]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is mpex-vwap.php the only stat json that's publicly availabe [20:36]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade " Art and Artwork (none) " [20:36]
thestringpuller what else yougot? [20:36]
kakobreklaa go with the html apis are so new age pft! [20:36]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller there's mkt depth too [20:36]
Ukto [\\\\\\\]: and the this one time, and band camp... [20:36]
[\\\\\\\] Ukto, I don't wanna know about your flute [20:36]
mircea_popescu i can't believe slashy still lives. [20:36]
jcpham it was a tuba, not a flute [20:36]
Ukto LOL [20:36]
thestringpuller What happened to going to the store Ukto ? [20:36]
Ukto jchysk: thats movie 1 vs 2 [20:36]
thestringpuller I want my FF7 [20:36]
Ukto whut store? [20:36]
Ukto school ? [20:37]
[\\\\\\\] mircea_popescu, why would it not? [20:37]
thestringpuller I'll pay 2000BTC [20:37]
Ukto get your facts straight [20:37]
Ukto :P [20:37]
thestringpuller (not really) [20:37]
mircea_popescu dja have any idea when's the last time you said something ? [20:37]
[\\\\\\\] no, been busy, stuff and stuff [20:37]
mircea_popescu well good for you anyway. [20:37]
[\\\\\\\] if you say so [20:38]
mircea_popescu FireSteel.com FireSteels are used by tens of thousands of people including the US Military, hikers, hunters, scouts, survivalists, outdoors enthusiasts and bushcrafters the world over. [20:38]
mircea_popescu Buy our FireSteels and you'll never worry about being able to start a fire. [20:38]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: where is the depth table json [20:38]
mircea_popescu who the fuck is worried about starting fires [20:38]
[\\\\\\\] just keep a bic in the glove box [20:38]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php [20:38]
kakobreklaa people who do Bacon ala Quran [20:38]
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EskimoBob mircea_popescu: what about this link? [20:38]
[\\\\\\\] if you're stranded long enough that you run out of lighter fluid, you're probably gonna die anyway [20:38]
[\\\\\\\] and I mean that in the nicest way possible [20:39]
mircea_popescu i can make fire by rubbing two girls together. [20:39]
mircea_popescu provided one's blonde and the other's brunette. [20:39]
[\\\\\\\] you have two different shares of hair on your palms? [20:39]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob grep for "art" [20:39]
[\\\\\\\] shades* [20:39]
mircea_popescu blonde and brunette aren't motherfucking shades [20:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11071 @ 0.0005998 = 6.6404 BTC [+] [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00060014 = 4.2184 BTC [+] [20:40]
EskimoBob so? [20:40]
mircea_popescu so add your negligible yet soon to dissapear attempt in there. [20:41]
EskimoBob wtf are you blabbering about now? [20:42]
thestringpuller no one believes in EskimoBobs dream of creating a BTC-based art studio? [20:42]
mircea_popescu if bitcoins were backed by buckteeth fat girl butts... [20:43]
pigeons he suggests you let people who browse the bitcoin wiki know that they can get "art" for bitcoins [20:43]
mircea_popescu "The Real Skin All-American Whopper measures 7 inches with an insertable length of 5.5 inches, 1.25-1.5 inches in width and a circumference of 4.5-5 inches, and is realistically sculpted for the size, feel, and pleasure of the real thing." [20:43]
mircea_popescu 5 inches ? real thing ? [20:43]
EskimoBob thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is lonely fuck who just stirs up shit. Do not take that delusional retard too seriously ;) [20:44]
mircea_popescu L33t Consultant, IT Consulting on Anything Security, Networks & Servers. All OS - All Software. [20:45]
mircea_popescu the wiki is a serious goldmine. [20:45]
mircea_popescu "Discover…No B.S. Asset Protection The Ultimate, No Holds Barred, Kick Butt, Take No Prisoners Asset Protection & Privacy Package Plus Exclusive Lifetime Site Membership" [20:46]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: where is the market depth json waaaaaah [20:50]
thestringpuller waaaaah [20:50]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-json.php [20:52]
jcpham i have not started a fire with my firesteel yet [20:53]
jcpham vaguely tried [20:53]
mircea_popescu usagi : "this is probably a scam" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1407545#msg1407545 [20:54]
mircea_popescu he should know [20:54]
mircea_popescu jcpham what is it, an electric arc sorta thing ? [20:54]
jcpham it's like a big flint [20:54]
jcpham you scrape it and make sparks [20:54]
jcpham like a survival fire starter [20:54]
mircea_popescu a [20:56]
jcpham requires fibrous tender [20:57]
jcpham rubbiung sticks and blowing [20:57]
jcpham shrug [20:57]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: there is a bug, it took me to trilemma [20:59]
thestringpuller Usagi can fucking rant on the forums but not get me my fucking BTC [21:00]
thestringpuller fuck dat guy [21:00]
mircea_popescu i just tried it, tis fine. [21:00]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/mpex-vwap.php [21:00]
mircea_popescu ow tried the wrong one [21:00]
thestringpuller mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-json.php [21:00]
thestringpuller keep redirecting to your blog [21:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00060014 = 3.0307 BTC [+] [21:01]
mircea_popescu mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-jsonp.php [21:01]
mircea_popescu or else [21:02]
mircea_popescu mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php [21:02]
thestringpuller that worked [21:02]
thestringpuller thanks mircea_popescu [21:02]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [21:07]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30001, Best ask: 13.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 13.30002, 24 hour volume: 28406.18807176, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.27054 [21:07]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [21:07]
gribble Time since last block: 8 minutes and 40 seconds [21:07]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,diff [21:07]
gribble 3370181.7992778 [21:07]
thestringpuller btc volatility is going down [21:08]
thestringpuller overall [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11171 @ 0.00060014 = 6.7042 BTC [+] [21:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3829 @ 0.0006002 = 2.2982 BTC [+] [21:10]
thestringpuller august was a baaaaad month [21:12]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ - the loss of august seems to dwarf everything... [21:14]
thestringpuller the bondholders in august...got creamed [21:16]
mircea_popescu yeah. [21:17]
thestringpuller are there any new safeguards? [21:17]
mircea_popescu nope. it can happen, one bad month can hurt. [21:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0006002 = 1.8006 BTC [+] [21:19]
thestringpuller but that month was REALLY bad [21:19]
thestringpuller like people jumping out of skyscrapers bad [21:19]
mircea_popescu yeah [21:20]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=Hourly&c=1&s=2012-08-17&e=2012-08-21&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& [21:21]
thestringpuller ouch [21:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059918 = 2.5891 BTC [-] [21:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00059883 = 7.4255 BTC [-] [21:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11895 @ 0.00059238 = 7.0464 BTC [-] [21:22]
Bugpowder shoulda used a Lorentzian instead of a Gaussian price movement model... [21:22]
thestringpuller 14 to 11 in 1 day [21:22]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder shoulda not been in a market where self-aggrandizing idiots put 5% of the m3 into ponzis [21:23]
EskimoBob fuuuuccckkk usagi is back and off the fkn meds. Not that shit again ... LOL [21:26]
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Bugpowder Does Black-Scholes have a ponzi correction term? [21:27]
mircea_popescu if it ever does it will become BSM [21:28]
mircea_popescu Black-Scholes-Maddof [21:28]
Namjies Hey EskimoBob [21:29]
Namjies No, haven't received your claim from GLBSE yet. [21:29]
thestringpuller the Lorentz transformation [21:31]
EskimoBob Namjies: hola [21:31]
thestringpuller the most brilliant thing ever [21:31]
Bugpowder not related [21:32]
thestringpuller Bugpowder: You were talking about a Lorentz right? [21:32]
thestringpuller oh [21:32]
thestringpuller :( [21:32]
thestringpuller well I'll just go to my corner and continue reading about relativity then [21:32]
EskimoBob Namjies: James told me he sent out (or promised to send) a updated list and assured me that my name is on the list [21:32]
Bugpowder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy_distribution [21:32]
EskimoBob unless you are talking to someone else Namjies :) [21:33]
Bugpowder It's why 100-year black swan events happen every 8 years. [21:33]
thestringpuller 100 year black swan events heh [21:34]
thestringpuller damn Bugpowder you people enlighten me everyda [21:34]
thestringpuller I've learned more in this IRC channel than I ever did in public school [21:34]
thestringpuller Down with welfare [21:35]
dub I was looking at some property in a 100-year flood plain the other day, supposedly expected to flood every 3-5 years [21:43]
thestringpuller lol Bitcoin magazine charges 100 bucks for a 12 issue subscription? [21:50]
mod6 (11:34) < thestringpuller> I've learned more in this IRC channel than I ever did in public school [21:50]
dub moron tax [21:50]
mod6 ^^^ :D [21:50]
EskimoBob are they still in business? [21:50]
thestringpuller mod6: can I help with the Mpex android app? [21:51]
EskimoBob Vlad ripped the magazine off and it sounded like that wast the end [21:51]
thestringpuller issue #5 just came out [21:52]
EskimoBob OK [21:52]
thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ - I was reading that [21:52]
mod6 thestringpuller: I do actually need help. And for sure in the future there will be tons more to do. [21:53]
thestringpuller What framework are you going to use? [21:53]
thestringpuller in terms of data access [21:54]
thestringpuller like how people use Spring Framework for Java EE [21:54]
mod6 ahhh. [21:54]
mircea_popescu lol Bitcoin magazine charges 100 bucks for a 12 issue subscription? <<< yes, they will deliver the 12th issue in 2044 [21:54]
thestringpuller why don't you spin off trilemma into a magazine? [21:55]
mod6 well, i started a #BitOTTer channel for technical discussions.... but basically how this works is it doesn't persist anything at this time [21:55]
mircea_popescu a magazine is one of those pointless things whores employed by rich men fill their time with. [21:56]
mod6 it connects to mpex (currently just over inet, tor ability is coming, probably in beta, tor works with perl version) and grabs all the JSON and parses it. [21:56]
thestringpuller i was talking more about the service to DAO [21:56]
thestringpuller even though there is no writing to a db [21:56]
thestringpuller you have to read from one albeit over an API [21:56]
thestringpuller like for instance I was reading in JSON from a server that had data on it [21:57]
thestringpuller so I used GSON wrapped with access objects [21:57]
mod6 ahh, yeah, nothing with GSON. i tried to get my head wrapped around how to use it with android and the funky mpex json, but I couldn't make it work [21:58]
mod6 i just muscled past it with my own solution [21:58]
thestringpuller Haha [21:58]
thestringpuller hit it with a hammer till it behaves solution huh? [21:58]
mod6 well, sort of.. i love to make it really nice and awesomesauce, but having it work is much better. [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060018 = 2.5934 BTC [+] [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1929 @ 0.0006002 = 1.1578 BTC [+] [21:59]
mod6 So in the future, I really hope to get to revise a lot of stuff that I've already learned on the alpha project... but its sort of too late to turn around. [21:59]
thestringpuller well if you want I can be your jr. dev, just assign me tickets and I"ll send you patches [21:59]
mod6 I was talking about building BitOTTer as an android tool for mpex in march/april, but noone was really interested... until later, and then I really had to turn up the gas to try to catch up. [22:00]
mod6 If you're really serious, I do have quite a bunch to do. It sounds like you know what's up. [22:00]
thestringpuller I'm a Java EE developer and spent a few years doing Android Dev [22:01]
thestringpuller If you migrate to iOS I can't really do anything for you [22:01]
mod6 I can work out something in the form of small btc payments on a per-diem basis or something... [22:01]
thestringpuller nah I'd rather just code for the fun of it [22:01]
thestringpuller for a good cause [22:01]
mod6 wow. even more awesome. well, you won't be forgotten if you help with this project in some way. [22:02]
thestringpuller Anything I can do to get better at coding. [22:03]
mod6 Right now i have a nuts-o day job, thats more like an everyhour job. I am looking forward to making 2013 the year I can leave that behind :D [22:03]
thestringpuller Dude you have no idea [22:03]
thestringpuller I so feel you [22:03]
thestringpuller I do EE development for credit card processors [22:04]
thestringpuller it's like 90% meetings 10% copy paste code [22:04]
thestringpuller every hour every day... [22:04]
thestringpuller ugh [22:04]
mod6 thats great, this is all java, nothing too complicated really at all. [22:04]
mod6 just had some problems with spongycastle/bouncycastle trying to get the KeyStore to work the way I wanted. I got SOOOOO close, but it was eating up too much time. [22:05]
thestringpuller Android keystores are weird as shit [22:05]
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thestringpuller in fact I don't think you can use traditional SSH keys on it [22:05]
mod6 ah, maybe not? [22:06]
thestringpuller hold on i spent weeks getting SSHd and SCP to run natively on my droid [22:07]
thestringpuller to be thwarted by a cp memory overrun [22:07]
thestringpuller there we go [22:07]
thestringpuller dropbear [22:07]
mod6 ahh hmm [22:08]
* mod6 looks [22:08]
thestringpuller dropbear ssh [22:08]
thestringpuller they did a port that's now in the android git repo [22:08]
thestringpuller but you have to convert you DSA/RSA keys into dropbear format [22:08]
thestringpuller like stuff you'd generate from openssh [22:08]
mod6 lol, i just saw a picture of a kowala eating a guys face [22:09]
thestringpuller I assume pgp will be similar since the android keystore is a little weird [22:09]
mod6 yeah, i had to get down to the nuts and bolts [22:09]
mod6 i had to get the public key packet, secret key packet... extract the private key from the secrete key spec then create a x509 cert and construct that with the pub and priv keys. [22:10]
thestringpuller are you doing it remote? [22:10]
mod6 only bitch of it is... once I pull the cert out on the other side, i can't get out the private key. [22:10]
mod6 only the public key. the api is limited here. [22:10]
thestringpuller fucking keystore [22:10]
thestringpuller just can't store a private key... [22:10]
mod6 nope :/ [22:10]
thestringpuller we meet again my old friend [22:10]
iz for.. pgp? [22:10]
thestringpuller or gpg [22:11]
thestringpuller any key really [22:11]
mod6 yeah, i don't think it matters [22:11]
thestringpuller except androids "special format" [22:11]
iz you shouldn't be storing priv keys on a pgp (or gpg) keystore [22:11]
Namjies EskimoBob: what's your email/bitcoin address for GLBSE? PM me. I'll check again but my last list was received some time ago. [22:11]
iz that's not how it's meant to work [22:11]
thestringpuller yea but android is stripped down [22:11]
iz priv key remains private, public keys are on the keystore so you can look them up [22:11]
mod6 at that level I was working with PGPPublicKey, PGPSecretKey and PGPPrivateKey and converting them to their native java analogues [22:11]
thestringpuller iz: the keystore is local [22:12]
iz ohhh [22:12]
iz yeah, that sucks then [22:12]
thestringpuller iz: android doesn't have a normal filesystem [22:12]
iz yeah, i gotcha now [22:12]
thestringpuller iz: so for things that are "private" it stores them locally in a weird fucked up way [22:12]
mod6 iz: yeah, i know, but im trying to come up with a clever way to store the users private key incase the device is stolen or hacked, you don't want to lose thatkey. [22:12]
thestringpuller exactly! [22:12]
mircea_popescu listening to you ppl talk im slowly realising apple is the new microsoft. [22:12]
iz encrypt it w/ a password [22:12]
thestringpuller if you lose your phone with the bitcoin wallet [22:12]
mircea_popescu this is EXACTLY how discussions went cca 1995 [22:13]
thestringpuller people can take the private keys out [22:13]
mod6 apple is pretty nuts, i'll convert to iOS someday if there is enough interest... but that'll be its own can of worms. [22:13]
EskimoBob Namjies: pm sent [22:13]
iz well, if you loose your wallet, ppl can take your cash out too [22:13]
iz lose [22:13]
thestringpuller iOS is pretty good [22:13]
thestringpuller but it's not friendly [22:13]
thestringpuller well the low level to high level interface isn't friedly [22:14]
thestringpuller friendly* [22:14]
mod6 iz: so in the mean time, I have a AES256 class that I wrote that will utilize AES and enc/dec the key... at least that way, its protected by the symmetric key [22:14]
thestringpuller mod6: one thing you an do is encrypt local data for the app [22:14]
thestringpuller each app runs under it's on PID, and UID, so no other app can access it [22:15]
iz mod6: yeah, that seems good enough for now... does android have DRM crap that you can hijack for that? [22:15]
thestringpuller iz: not DRM persay, but if you root your phone you can do an encrypted FS [22:16]
mod6 iz: hm, I really wish! if they do, I'm missing it. I'm not super well versed in Android though, a lot of stuff is new to me here. [22:16]
thestringpuller but then you're limiting yourself to only "experienced" users [22:16]
mod6 and what worries me, is like I was saying to mircea_popescu the other night. all these cell providers leave backdoors through the os to turn shit on/off or to steal your data/coins. [22:17]
iz yeah, i took a quick look and it seems like the android DRM is about playback restriction and doesn't really have a pub/priv key that is used [22:17]
mod6 So... I'd like to put something in place thats non-native in a way I guess. Another layer to the onion so to speak. [22:17]
thestringpuller mod6: just encrypt the app local file store [22:17]
thestringpuller with the AES256 class you are writing [22:18]
mod6 thestringpuller: this maybe the way to go. i'll have to talk to you more about that. or do some searching there... need to see how that works out. [22:18]
mod6 oh. [22:18]
mod6 I see, you're just saying to enc all the files in the local dir? [22:18]
thestringpuller just for the mpex app [22:18]
thestringpuller each app has it's only local file store [22:18]
mod6 right. [22:18]
thestringpuller most people don't encrypt that shit but I don't see why you couldn't [22:19]
thestringpuller it adds another layer [22:19]
mod6 Well, I could do that for sure. Infact, it started out that way, and then I was like, "why am i encrypting this public key..." [22:19]
thestringpuller true [22:19]
mod6 its time related. [22:19]
thestringpuller but rogue apps take over phones everyday [22:19]
thestringpuller if they can get into another apps local fs somehow [22:20]
thestringpuller then it's like the plaintext password with Sony and MTGox [22:20]
thestringpuller and LinkedIn for that matter [22:20]
mod6 right. [22:20]
mod6 Good stuff man. Thanks to everyone for all your comments on this today. [22:20]
mod6 Very much helpful. [22:20]
thestringpuller also it's nearly impossible for a rogue app to read from memory [22:20]
thestringpuller because essentially the only time the private key would be "exposed" is when it's in memory decrypting data [22:21]
thestringpuller or in use* [22:21]
thestringpuller it wouldn't be "on disc" decrypted [22:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.0006002 = 5.3718 BTC [+] [22:21]
mod6 yup. true enough. [22:21]
thestringpuller but i feel you it is a pain not having a place to store the private key [22:22]
mod6 yeah, it makes it tough. i was worried about this before the project got off the ground, and it didn't disappoint. [22:22]
mod6 But... i'm pretty much past it, for now. I'm looking forward to getting it out here soon and then working on the beta. [22:23]
thestringpuller yea it's why bank apps don't store anything locally [22:23]
thestringpuller most bank apps are web based and connect to a webpage based ap [22:23]
thestringpuller app* [22:23]
thestringpuller its really kind of a shame [22:23]
thestringpuller mod6: i pmed you my github account [22:24]
mod6 yeah for sure. [22:24]
mod6 oh ok! [22:24]
thestringpuller i don't got much on there cause I just don't have anything to collaborate with I usually just keep everything local [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18776 @ 0.0006002 = 11.2694 BTC [+] [22:35]
mod6 Thanks again for the help/comments guise. :) [22:38]
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jurov thestringpuller, next time just look into live.coinbr.com sauce [22:58]
jurov it uses some secret mpex apis [22:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.0006002 = 6.4522 BTC [+] [23:00]
dub mother of christ [23:02]
dub more flash crashes this patch than ever before [23:02]
jcpham i need a nap [23:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059499 = 2.571 BTC [-] [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18779 @ 0.00059474 = 11.1686 BTC [-] [23:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059991 = 2.5922 BTC [+] [23:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9115 @ 0.0006002 = 5.4708 BTC [+] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9335 @ 0.00060397 = 5.6381 BTC [+] [23:32]
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