Forum logs for 19 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu [08:59]
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amiga4000 !bc,convert eur [09:23]
gribble 1 BTC = 5.17977 U.S. dollars = 3.94619077 Euros [09:23]
mircea_popescu o hey, going to 5.5 ? :D [09:42]
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* vragnaroda smacks mircea_popescu. [10:11]
mircea_popescu what! [10:11]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: You're in #bitcoin-otc-eu! Use EUR or some stupid shit for your milestone. [10:12]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Also, have you seen Shameless (the American or the British version)? [10:12]
mircea_popescu you don't understand [10:12]
mircea_popescu we here in europe are open to anyone's own system of representation [10:12]
vragnaroda ORLY? [10:13]
mircea_popescu we don't insist they believe in jehova or whatever the fuck you got across the pond. [10:13]
mircea_popescu and no i haven't seen it. [10:13]
mircea_popescu is it any good ? [10:13]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: How much does gasoline cost there in EUR/gal? [10:13]
mircea_popescu i have no ideea, but it's just reached 6 ron/liter here which is driving ppl nuts. [10:13]
vragnaroda Yes and amusingly, the American version has more nudity. (It's on Showtime.) [10:13]
vragnaroda (Still not much, though.) [10:13]
mircea_popescu i guess it'd be ~1.5 eur / galon, which is pretty outrageous in a country with a mean (not median) income of ~450 euro / month [10:14]
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vragnaroda .c 6 ron/l in usd/gal [10:14]
markac 6.80583727 U.S. dollars / gal [10:14]
vragnaroda holy fuck [10:14]
mircea_popescu eugh, i don't watch tv series dood. [10:14]
vragnaroda Your loss. [10:15]
mircea_popescu nah, that's not right. [10:15]
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mircea_popescu o wait it is. yeah. [10:15]
mircea_popescu and yes, you gotta lose some to win some. [10:15]
vragnaroda People here are pissed about $4/gal. [10:16]
mircea_popescu i know. [10:16]
mircea_popescu then again, the govts here put > 90% excise in the gas, which i strongly support. [10:16]
BTC_Bear What was that 90% excise tax supposed to pay for? [10:18]
amiga4000 as oil and gas will run out, prices will rise faster the next years. Get used to it. [10:19]
BTC_Bear emphasis on 'supposed' [10:19]
markedathome roads? depends on country [10:19]
mircea_popescu BTC_Bear in general to relieve the budget. supposedly new infrastructure development, but meh. [10:20]
mircea_popescu at any rate a policy of consumption taxes (high vat, high fuel excise etc) is much better than a policy of income taxes [10:21]
BTC_Bear Yea, well someone stole it. Maybe not in Germany tho... they have a low budget and good roads. :) [10:21]
amiga4000 btw, a life without a car is very nice, cheap and possible [10:22]
mircea_popescu in europe. yes. [10:22]
BTC_Bear amiga4000: Not in the U.S., commutes are long on average. [10:23]
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amiga4000 The us, they got other problems! Global warming does not happen in the US, to ;-) [10:24]
BTC_Bear lol [10:24]
mircea_popescu global warming doesn't happen anywhere. [10:25]
mircea_popescu tis a crock. [10:25]
BTC_Bear Precession takes 26K years, when they've collected the data we'll talk about Global Warming. [10:26]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Indeed, the area surrounding the northeast megalopolis (the so-called BosWash corridor), once you get out of the actual urban areas, temperatures have been steadily falling. [10:26]
amiga4000 oh, rihgt, it is all god made, and not men made, sorry, I forgot. [10:26]
mircea_popescu ++ BTC_Bear [10:26]
mircea_popescu the entire thing has been thoroughly exposed as a sham. [10:26]
vragnaroda Reforestation is given most of the credit for that. [10:26]
mircea_popescu pseudoscience extrapolated based on extrapolations, fake consensus, political muscling and everytghing else. [10:27]
mircea_popescu tis the sham of the century. [10:27]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda it is a little weird to be talking of local global warming :D [10:28]
* markedathome *cough carbon credits cough * [10:28]
BTC_Bear amiga4000> oh, rihgt, it is all god made, and not men made, sorry, I forgot. << are you suggesting man made the Earth. [10:28]
vragnaroda BTC_Bear: lol [10:28]
mircea_popescu markedathome : right, which is the new and improved way to finance the italian mob. [10:28]
mircea_popescu ahaha good one. yes, the earth is man made! [10:28]
vragnaroda I like the Italian mob! [10:28]
mircea_popescu it should be a new religion [10:28]
vragnaroda When they come into an area, good restaurants follow! [10:29]
mircea_popescu i certainly prefer the italian mob to the italian government. [10:29]
vragnaroda lol [10:29]
BTC_Bear better run, eh [10:29]
mircea_popescu mobs have the added advantage they are always and very deeply rightwing. commited to free market and all that. [10:29]
mircea_popescu so in between obama and gotti, i'd vote gotti. [10:30]
mircea_popescu both are fucking fags, both like to pose for the cam too much [10:30]
mircea_popescu but at least one's a mobster. [10:30]
BTC_Bear Something tells me that Obama wouldn't qualify even if Italian, er Sicilian [10:31]
mircea_popescu well if he grew up in that environment... [10:31]
mircea_popescu :D [10:31]
amiga4000 nono, the big twisters, the flood, the long perios of rain-less times,... all made by god for mens sins. Not made by men problems... [10:31]
mircea_popescu what sins ? [10:31]
amiga4000 and earth is only 6000 years old ;-) [10:31]
amiga4000 oh, a lot of sins do arise with godless life, gays, free love, not praying, money... [10:32]
amiga4000 choose one of your favors ;-) [10:32]
vragnaroda amiga4000: If there be a god, he's a fag. [10:32]
mircea_popescu mmm. im not gay, so i guess i'm not gonna get globally warmed then. [10:32]
amiga4000 and on money we are no more OT , ha, I like it. [10:33]
vragnaroda lol [10:33]
mircea_popescu which kind of defeats the global part. [10:33]
vragnaroda What about the bisexuals? Do they get only partly warmed? [10:33]
mircea_popescu and if so, is it vertically or horizontally half ? [10:33]
amiga4000 yeah, as gays are called "the warm men", bi must be half-warm ;-) [10:33]
mircea_popescu where you from amiga4000 ? [10:33]
amiga4000 but it is a fact of global temperature raises over all in average year by year. which is not nice. Sea level do rise. [10:34]
amiga4000 ./whois amiga4000 [10:34]
vragnaroda amiga4000: So, if someone's, say, a 2 on the Kinsey scale, he's 1/3 warmed? [10:34]
amiga4000 currently I sit in austria (NOT the australia) [10:34]
amiga4000 vragnaroda: maybe, I did not roll the dice to made a table yet^^ [10:35]
vragnaroda Well, plant some fucking trees and sit in the shade like we've been doing here in America; shit'll cool down. [10:35]
mircea_popescu a, german. so is the slang "warme Männer" ? [10:35]
amiga4000 sure [10:35]
amiga4000 plant trees is not working in africa/sahel or in china... [10:36]
vragnaroda That's because they're not doing it. :p [10:36]
vragnaroda At least, not on any meaningful scale. [10:36]
amiga4000 oh, they do. china is doing a great job. china has the citries with the biggest electro cars/bike rate [10:37]
mircea_popescu actually last i was in egypt they were having some success with desert reclaimation in the luxor area [10:37]
vragnaroda lol [10:37]
mircea_popescu literally the lebanese method, plant trees. [10:37]
amiga4000 desert reclaimation needs water. which does not rain, taken from ground will run out soon like oil [10:37]
mircea_popescu luxor is on the nile. [10:37]
mircea_popescu and no, the oil comparison fails. nobody burns the water, it just rains back down. [10:38]
amiga4000 look e.g. US with the grand canyon, IMHO they take so much water from it, the river does not reach the ocean anymore. [10:38]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Not true! Hippies burn water so they can separate the hydrogen and oxygen and use it in their damned fuel cells. [10:38]
amiga4000 and the big lake eastern of black sea, it gets smaller and smaller each year, lots of ships lying around in desert with no water anymore... [10:39]
vragnaroda (But, reclamation of that in a purified state is nearly 100%.) [10:39]
mircea_popescu i have the strange feeling i stumbled in a meeting of an alchemical society. [10:39]
vragnaroda Why does it not surprise me that Yurp has the environmental issue the U.S. had in the 1880s and thinks they're global issues? [10:40]
mircea_popescu because that's what yurp does :D [10:40]
mircea_popescu takes itself very seriously. [10:40]
vragnaroda Those are not global phenomena. [10:40]
mircea_popescu eh, what do you colonials know. [10:41]
amiga4000 hmm, the ice caps are smelting, water level rises. thats a good sign of global warming, isn´t it? [10:41]
mircea_popescu the ice caps are smelting << :D [10:41]
mircea_popescu sie gonnen mir nich ice caps und die graffschaft glatz!!1 [10:41]
amiga4000 it´s been a lot of years since they smelt. [10:41]
mircea_popescu they melt. to smelt means to separate metals from rock [10:41]
amiga4000 so far antarctica is some rocks with ice upon it and some countries to want to get the iron and other metal from those rocks ;-) [10:42]
mircea_popescu well its also a fish, but anyway [10:42]
amiga4000 but in northern area it is just ice which get less and less year by year. [10:43]
vragnaroda and it's also the British version of ‘smelled’ ;) [10:43]
amiga4000 but maybe god just decided earth looks better without icecaps ;-) [10:43]
vragnaroda Well, if so, it wouldn't be the first time. [10:44]
mircea_popescu ya, sorta like a spacestripper. better w/o caps. [10:44]
amiga4000 same with the alps, the glacier get smaller and smaller year by year. currently only 2 or 3 glacier worldwide to grow, all other get smaller [10:44]
vragnaroda Also, IRT rising sea levels: good, I live about 380 miles inland. I want beachfront property. [10:44]
amiga4000 sure it would not be the first time. but it has some drastic changes for the people on earth, or? [10:44]
vragnaroda Not changes humans haven't dealt with before when much less prepared. [10:45]
amiga4000 vragnaroda: tell it to the people in california and florida, they will love you for that opinion ;-) [10:45]
mircea_popescu eh, california is going to fall into the rift first anyway [10:45]
amiga4000 hm, last time the pole caps were ice free was ahead of human kind on eart. [10:45]
amiga4000 so not really "dealt with alread" [10:45]
amiga4000 but if you want your children to have a hard life, go oin [10:46]
amiga4000 make it easy or hard^^ [10:46]
amiga4000 but with current economy they will have a hard life for sure [10:46]
mircea_popescu im not making any children tho. [10:47]
mircea_popescu let other people do the work i always say. [10:47]
vragnaroda You do realize that ‘current economy’ predictions are inherently fucked, right? [10:50]
mircea_popescu you. [10:50]
vragnaroda Also, if I have kids, it'll be so they can fuck the world over, not the other way around. [10:51]
vragnaroda There's not even a theoretical basis for the claim that there will be no polar ice in the lifetime of the next generation. You can extrapolate from raw data, but until you have some theory that's consistent throughout and doesn't rely on special pleading or other logical fallacies, I'm going to ignore it (see Occam's Razor). [10:52]
mircea_popescu i thought if you have kids it'd be cause you found a woman willing :D [10:53]
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Deputaats hello [11:46]
Deputaats O would like to buy bitcoins [11:46]
amiga4000 hi Deputaats [11:46]
Deputaats *I [11:46]
amiga4000 look in topic for the list of offers [11:46]
Deputaats First time user, reading many articles, tried to use intersango then found about this.. "otc" trading. [11:47]
amiga4000 yeah [11:47]
amiga4000 http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu [11:48]
amiga4000 or just write your offer and payment method [11:48]
Deputaats oh, nice [11:49]
Deputaats I need about 45 BTC [11:49]
Deputaats Willing to pay about 5.20 usd for 1BTC (I guess that's a little more than the current rate based on mtgox). payment method - paypal. [11:51]
Deputaats mayeb 5.30 because I see people talking about paypal chargebacks [11:51]
Deputaats I red this.. [11:52]
Deputaats One possible way to partially mitigate the chargeback issue with PayPal is to use the "personal" transaction (I like the 'payment owed' type), making sure they come out of PayPal or bank balance (rather than credit card). These transactions cannot be charged back via the usual method (claiming non-delivery of goods by seller), and as a bonus, incur lower fees (0 fee for within-country, and a 0.5-1% fee for international tr [11:52]
Deputaats I'm willing to do this "personal" thing [11:52]
amiga4000 !bc,convert eur [11:52]
gribble 1 BTC = 5.14100 U.S. dollars = 3.92023791 Euros [11:52]
Deputaats I'm willing to pay more because I'm sick of searching where to get BTC.. three days googling around. [11:53]
amiga4000 sorry, I cannot offer bitcoin currently. Need to wait until monday [11:55]
Deputaats FOr the first time I can buy small amount if seller agrees.. like 100 usd and then go up from there. Because how then to gain good reputation? [11:55]
amiga4000 right [11:55]
Deputaats sturles: Selling single bitcoins for PayPal to unrated users to help you to a rating. Must be registered. [11:57]
Deputaats Jackten: Moneypak prefered. Paypal considered only for higher fee/reputed persons [11:57]
Deputaats Found only two working with paypal.. [11:57]
Deputaats I also tried to find local BTC traders but w/o luck.. maybe I dont know how to find them. [11:58]
amiga4000 sometimes it is hard in some areas [12:00]
amiga4000 so if you can wait for monday, I can make you a offer [12:00]
amiga4000 based on monday rates [12:00]
Deputaats Guess I have no other options.. [12:01]
amiga4000 sometimes posting in bitcoin forum does help, sometimes noce [12:01]
amiga4000 sometimes not [12:01]
amiga4000 maybe try to get register here and enter your offer to the list [12:02]
amiga4000 if people do not read now, they can read later on [12:02]
Deputaats ok, will read how to do that now.. [12:02]
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mircea_popescu ok, B.PPTAPR.SYNTH is live [12:26]
mircea_popescu you can now be short pirate. [12:26]
markedathome does that mean that the logo should have two peglegs? [12:27]
mircea_popescu lol [12:28]
markedathome 474btc of ppt.synth gone already [12:31]
mircea_popescu o hey [12:37]
mircea_popescu looks more like 800 [12:39]
markedathome only three trades had appeared on -assets when I wrote that, some more had gone through shortly after [12:43]
markedathome and I can't add up [12:43]
markedathome should have been 458 [12:44]
markedathome bitscalper resurfaces https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77195.0;all [12:56]
mircea_popescu kinda funny that it seems more volume on the synth than on the glbse direct asset. [12:58]
markedathome ] <`MBot> markedathome: [ GLBSE ] [ TICKER ] [ PPT.A ] [ BID: 1.08 ] [ ASK: 0.0 ] [ SPREAD : -1.08 ] [ LAST TRADE: 0@0.0 ] [ VOLUME : 0.0 BTC ] [13:00]
markedathome it's not started yet? thought it was tomorrow/weekend or something [13:00]
mircea_popescu i think so yes [13:01]
mircea_popescu ahahaah he accidentally posted with his old acct ? [13:08]
mircea_popescu o lawdy... [13:08]
markedathome as soon as I read the first and only post at the time yesterday, i was going to post 'hello bitscalper'. wish I had now [13:09]
mircea_popescu :p [13:18]
markedathome BIB.GOAT looks as though it is about to end [13:19]
mircea_popescu what was that again ? [13:33]
markedathome goat borrowed of brendio for some gfx cards 6990? and it was placed as a bond that paid 1% a month expiring in march. [13:36]
markedathome there was the opportunity to continue for an increase to 2% after that. so i assume that one of them is closing it [13:37]
markedathome https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51832 [13:38]
mircea_popescu a aha [13:39]
mircea_popescu ty [13:39]
mircea_popescu is it me or is glbse down ? [13:42]
markedathome it's up for me, but I had nginx bad gateway reports a couple of times in the last hour [13:44]
markedathome a refresh got it back in almost straight away [13:44]
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mircea_popescu a there it is [13:51]
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mircea_popescu ahh that bitscalper thing was pretty amusing [14:11]
mircea_popescu http://www.zerohedge.com/news/birth-barter-how-one-greek-town-dropped-euro-and-moved [14:14]
mircea_popescu they should have picked up btc :D [14:14]
jurov hehe... but it's hard to imagine how it would work in practice, like, everyone fumbling with smartphones on every trade [14:16]
jurov and my imagination ran its course again to uncanny places... it would be very ironic if bitcoin would be *the* reason to implant microchips [14:21]
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mircea_popescu it would also not surprise me, jurov. [14:38]
* markedathome imagines a world where you keep having to go to the chippers each day because of viruses and cloned tags [14:40]
mircea_popescu o god. [14:41]
mircea_popescu nono, linux chip [14:41]
markedathome alright, worms, trojans etc. users will still fuck up [14:43]
rg man my farts stink today [14:46]
markedathome do they not everyday, or are they just building clearing today? (must stop the baked beans contests) [14:48]
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rg theyre usually odorless [14:50]
rg well [14:50]
rg im sure you could smell it if you stuck your face in my ass [14:50]
rg but i usually dont even catch a wif [14:50]
* rg continues to migrate vm's [14:50]
rg masters got me workin [14:50]
* markedathome watches blazing saddles [14:51]
* markedathome thinks rg is under mpoe-pr girls' whip [14:51]
rg someda master set me freee [14:52]
rg days never finished! [14:52]
rg masters got me workin [14:52]
rg some day master set me free! [14:52]
rg gosh i cant wait til these migrations are done [14:53]
rg its going to cut down on support tickets for me [14:54]
rg tenfold [14:54]
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jurov hi mircea, fund probably a bug: [15:04]
jurov Your order to BUY 1000 S.BVPS @0.00000000BTC each has been received and will be processed. [15:04]
jurov the requested price was actually 0.0024 and the order was successful, but the message is wrong [15:05]
rg interesting [15:05]
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jurov also, does anyone know i how can i discern where i had received dividends from (not happened at mpex yet, but may) and discern them apart of interest? [15:12]
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rg hehe [15:14]
rg i like yoyur IP [15:14]
jurov i tend to find annoying bugs and gaps pretty everywhere...just wait till i start to using your vps >:D [15:15]
rg :> [15:16]
rg did you sign up? [15:16]
jurov not yet [15:16]
rg ok [15:16]
rg cause if you sign up this morning [15:16]
rg you'll be on the bottom of a TODO list [15:16]
rg im migrating all our current Chicago customers to a new badass machine [15:16]
rg Chaang-Noi: we all enjoy reading your threads on bitcointalk. it is amazing how two people can go out of their way to [15:18]
rg make themselves look like asses [15:18]
rg you just lost a customer, we wont be using bitvps again :/ thanks [15:18]
rg lol [15:18]
rg i love how people think i will kiss their ass cause they give me $5/mo [15:21]
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rg bitvps stock just went to 0.0026 [15:35]
rg ! [15:35]
jurov lol i've started a rally [15:35]
rg seriously [15:36]
rg you did [15:36]
rg :P [15:36]
rg 13:03 <`MBot:#bitcoin-assets> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.BVPS ] [ 1000 @ 0.00240000BTC = 2.400000 BTC ] [15:36]
rg 13:30 <`MBot> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.BVPS ] [ 16300 @ 0.00240000BTC = 39.120000 BTC ] [15:36]
rg 13:32 <`MBot> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.BVPS ] [ 5360 @ 0.00260000BTC = 13.936000 BTC ] [15:36]
rg now other people will jump on most likely [15:36]
rg cause of the activity [15:36]
Deputaats In the end I need ~510 USD worth of BTC [15:37]
mircea_popescu the requested price was actually 0.0024 and the order was successful, but the message is wrong << orders are given in satoshi [15:38]
mircea_popescu your less than 1 satoshi order was rounded to 0, which means market execution [15:38]
Deputaats Jackten would be perfect. [15:38]
mircea_popescu so it went through. next time quote as 240000 [15:38]
mircea_popescu as to dividends : at the very least you can find the dividends on the twitter flux [15:39]
mircea_popescu as for instance http://twitter.com/#!/MPEx1/status/192653639163183105 [15:39]
mircea_popescu you can also follow #dividend i guess [15:39]
rg hrm [15:40]
rg someone put in a buy order for bvps [15:40]
mircea_popescu rg : that guy's an idiot. back in the old mpoe days (like oct 2011 or something) he made 3 consecutive broken orders and was a total ass about it too. [15:40]
rg mircea [15:40]
rg by my count [15:40]
mircea_popescu yea ? [15:40]
rg this is the third time he said hes canceling bitvps [15:41]
mircea_popescu lol [15:41]
rg 13:17 you're welcome [15:41]
rg 13:17 you can file a cancelation or just not pay [15:41]
rg 13:17 either will end up with the same result [15:41]
rg 13:18 yeah that works too, that falls under not paying [15:41]
rg 13:18 thats fine [15:41]
rg 13:18 there's plenty of other companies who would be mre than happy to accomodate you [15:41]
rg 13:19 more* [15:41]
rg probably not what he was expecting [15:41]
mircea_popescu stop publishing that sorta stuff tho [15:41]
rg he's just a bully [15:42]
rg people always try that stuff [15:42]
rg its just to get free/lower cost service [15:42]
* BTC_Bear|hbrntng is now known as BTC_Bear [15:42]
rg i encourage people to try other companies, you'll just come running back to bitvps [15:42]
rg its already happened [15:42]
rg and it will happen again [15:42]
rg did i just quote battlestar galactica? [15:43]
rg oops. [15:43]
jurov well, rg, i start to have afterthoughts, maybe you'll smear me around too when we have some disagreement? [15:43]
rg jurov: i didnt smear anyone [15:43]
jurov * second thoughts [15:43]
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rg he's the one who flew off the handle over an IRC comment [15:43]
Deputaats Anyone willing to sell some BTC through paypal? [15:44]
rg and its not like im alone [15:44]
rg thats general sentiment of the whole forum/community [15:44]
rg you really think a business should form its beliefs over what its customers do? [15:44]
rg like if a customer doesnt like x, you should hate x too? [15:45]
rg i definitely dont agree with that [15:45]
jurov no. but i'll hopefully think better than repeating the story over everywhere [15:45]
rg besides, what i said to him was from me, not hte company [15:45]
rg you cant hold the company liable for the actions of a person [15:45]
Deputaats paulzag? [15:45]
rg jurov: everywhere? [15:46]
rg you mean here? [15:46]
rg i havent said anything to anyone else [15:46]
rg and the only reason i showed mircea was because he's had prior interactions with the person in question [15:46]
rg and would definitely understand [15:47]
jurov ok, sorry if iwas mistaken [15:47]
rg its ok [15:47]
rg i think you have a point [15:47]
rg a good one [15:47]
rg i just want you to understand both sides [15:47]
rg its simply a case of troll vs troll [15:47]
rg [15:47]
mircea_popescu lol i wouldn't try a competition of trolling with that guy [15:51]
mircea_popescu it'd rapidly turn into a "who's the greater idiot" [15:51]
markedathome and that's saying something when he went up against mathewnwright [15:51]
mircea_popescu lol [15:51]
jurov "They will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. [15:52]
jurov " [15:52]
rg i dont evne mess with Matthew [15:54]
rg he is king troll [15:54]
rg even* [15:54]
mircea_popescu the girl went into him early on [15:55]
mircea_popescu but i am guessing she gave up on it [15:55]
mircea_popescu o hey, bvps is selling nicely i see [15:56]
rg yeah [15:56]
rg thanks to jurov [15:56]
mircea_popescu already up 18% from original open or something [15:56]
rg he started the rally [15:56]
rg (no joke, he did) [15:56]
rg 13:03 <`MBot:#bitcoin-assets> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.BVPS ] [ 1000 @ 0.00240000BTC = 2.400000 BTC ] [15:56]
rg 13:30 <`MBot> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.BVPS ] [ 16300 @ 0.00240000BTC = 39.120000 BTC ] [15:56]
rg 13:32 <`MBot> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.BVPS ] [ 5360 @ 0.00260000BTC = 13.936000 BTC ] [15:56]
rg he's the 1000 shares [15:56]
mircea_popescu cool [15:57]
* rg continues to migrate customers onto new chi [15:57]
rg what sucks about this migration is: people who sign up dont use their every-day email [15:57]
rg so when i send important updates, they never get em [15:58]
rg then file a ticket all pissed off [15:58]
rg but im almost done [16:00]
* rg making record time [16:00]
rg 11 vm's per hr [16:00]
rg not bad [16:00]
jurov maybe you can provide a discount to people who read your announcements at least once every week :D [16:00]
rg i already give out discounts to people who pay their bill on time [16:01]
* zz_cheebydi is now known as cheebydi [16:01]
rg whenever people pay their bills on-time, i usually subtract 1 BTC from their next bill [16:01]
kakobreklaa can someone tell me in a sentence what B.PPTAPR.SYNTH is [16:02]
mircea_popescu synthetic equiv of the pirate bonds on glbse. [16:12]
* BTC_Bear is now known as BTC_Bear|hbrntng [16:12]
mircea_popescu btw kakobreklaa you still looking for that 100btc ? [16:12]
kakobreklaa mircea_popescu, thinking about it - will let you know [16:14]
mircea_popescu a ok. [16:14]
kakobreklaa about the synth [16:15]
kakobreklaa so now you are pumping money to pirate via mpex? [16:15]
mircea_popescu nope. [16:15]
mircea_popescu i am sucking money from pirate via mpex. [16:15]
mircea_popescu that 1.x mn volume on mpex is that many k's of btcs he could have gotten but never has. [16:16]
kakobreklaa you are giving 7% and if he defaults you default too? [16:16]
mircea_popescu did you read the terms ? [16:16]
mircea_popescu if he fails to pay etc as detailed there the bond is worthless. [16:16]
mircea_popescu no default involved. [16:16]
kakobreklaa coffee hasnt kicked in yet [16:16]
* kakobreklaa should wake up first. [16:17]
mircea_popescu goood mornin :) [16:20]
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rg you know [16:25]
rg this chang-noi guy actually isnt bad [16:25]
rg ive been talking to him the past few minutes [16:25]
rg he seems fairly normal [16:25]
kakobreklaa 15:31.46 ( `MBot ) [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ B.PPTAPR.SYNTH ] [ 900000 @ 0.00098000BTC = 882.000000 BTC ] [16:32]
kakobreklaa shit is happening [16:32]
kakobreklaa i have read through that and i still dont get it quite, i guess i am dumb [16:32]
rg wow [16:34]
rg thats crazy [16:35]
rg that person will make 250 BTC [16:35]
rg in 28 days [16:35]
rg welp [16:36]
rg only 12 more vm's to migrate [16:36]
rg and then we're done with old chicago forever [16:36]
* rg makes a note not to say this in public [16:57]
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rg its a dark day in the rg household [17:20]
rg we're out of sugar so im putting fluff in my coffee [17:20]
mcorlett rg: household = mancave? [17:21]
rg sort of [17:23]
rg its definitely a mancave [17:23]
rg all men live here [17:23]
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mcorlett Man, Brainwallet.org is the greatest thing since sliced bread. [17:29]
Deputaats anyone, paypal => BTC? [17:34]
Deputaats how to get into order book..? [17:35]
mcorlett ;;tell Deputaats [guide] [17:35]
Deputaats how many people are looking in there? [17:36]
Deputaats ;tell Deputaats [guide[ [17:36]
Deputaats ;tell Deputaats [guide] [17:36]
Deputaats tell [guide] [17:36]
Deputaats huh [17:36]
Deputaats ;tell [guide] [17:36]
Deputaats #tell [guide] [17:36]
Deputaats !tell guide [17:37]
gribble (tell ) -- Tells the whatever is. Use nested commands to your benefit here. [17:37]
Deputaats sec [17:37]
mircea_popescu jesus god [17:40]
mircea_popescu this is turning impossib le to marketmake [17:40]
Deputaats !tell Deputaats guide [17:42]
rg man dwolla will not leave me alone [17:42]
mircea_popescu kakobreklaa : what part don't you get tho ? [17:43]
mircea_popescu rg : or lose 882 btc. [17:43]
rg wait what? [17:44]
mircea_popescu doh ? [17:44]
rg <`MBot:#bitcoin-assets> [ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ B.PPTAPR.SYNTH ] [ 850000 @ 0.00098000BTC = 833.000000 BTC ] [17:45]
rg oh my! [17:45]
mircea_popescu myea. [17:45]
kakobreklaa without understanding a single word of mpoepr indian malarkey - its a copy of pirate, you put money to mp, pirate goes, mp takes your money [17:47]
mircea_popescu basically. [17:48]
rg OMG [17:49]
rg this god damn control panel [17:49]
rg the DC set all our IP's reverse to chi.vm.bitvps.com [17:50]
rg and theres no mass-update [17:50]
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kakobreklaa 17:08.01 .•• Popescu ( 5ac4de24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.196.222.36 ) joined #bitcoin-otc [18:09]
kakobreklaa hm? [18:09]
mircea_popescu lmao [18:09]
mircea_popescu i has impersonator person ? [18:09]
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mod6 yeah, that person just joined in -otc again [18:33]
mod6 (08:31) (!) popescu [5ac4de24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.196.222.36-] has joined #bitcoin-otc [18:33]
mircea_popescu you know popescu is a pretty common name, it might be some guy [18:33]
* BTC_Bear|hbrntng is now known as BTC_Bear [18:33]
mod6 ah! werd. [18:34]
mod6 lot of action on the board today :) [18:34]
Deputaats added at last. [18:35]
Deputaats Is there another market like this? [18:35]
Deputaats becuase here are small number of people.. And I need a bunch of BTC... [18:36]
mircea_popescu try #bitcoin-otc [18:36]
Deputaats ty [18:36]
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rg lol [18:45]
rg chicago dc we're moving out of [18:45]
rg went DOWN [18:45]
rg while migrating [18:45]
mod6 yikes [18:46]
rg just typical [18:46]
rg figures [18:46]
rg and people wonder why we wanted to geto ut so badly [18:46]
mircea_popescu sucks. [18:47]
paulo__v bitvps? [18:48]
rg its just annoying [18:48]
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rg i have ONE more customer to do [18:48]
mircea_popescu eh, dun worry, it'll come back. [18:50]
rg we'll see [18:50]
rg this gives me more ammo for my forum post [18:50]
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rg the staff claimed that all my reports are fraudulent [18:50]
rg now theyll have proof [18:51]
rg even the DC's website is down [18:51]
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Azelphur mircea_popescu: your json feeds are invalid :( [19:12]
Azelphur you have multiple sub-keys with the same name, so they don't parse correctly [19:12]
Azelphur eg your doing {"S.MPOE": {"S": {"123456": "100000"}, "S": {"25919": "1000000"} [19:13]
Azelphur you should be doing {"S.MPOE: { "S": [[123456, 10000], [25919, 100000]] } [19:14]
Azelphur or something like that [19:14]
rg ! [19:16]
Azelphur ! [19:16]
mod6 yeah, LINT says its valid for me, but of course, it parses out all of the inner hashes save one pair of S/B per each MPSIC [19:17]
mod6 so its technically not invalid, just not really what we want :) [19:18]
mircea_popescu ok, so what'd you like ? [19:18]
Azelphur mod6: yea, that's the same behaviour I get with python [19:18]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: (17:14:05) Azelphur: you should be doing {"S.MPOE: { "S": [[123456, 10000], [25919, 100000]] } [19:18]
mircea_popescu o ok. [19:18]
Azelphur :P [19:18]
mircea_popescu putting it in the queue, top priority :) [19:18]
Azelphur :D [19:18]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: make sense? you define S, but then you define S again, and again, and again [19:19]
Azelphur and they all just overwrite eachother, and you just end up with 1 buy/sell order for every entry [19:19]
mircea_popescu well they don't have to! [19:19]
Azelphur haha [19:19]
mircea_popescu but anyway, i am here to serve! [19:19]
Azelphur :D [19:19]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-mktdepth.php << [19:37]
mircea_popescu try that [19:37]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: looks better :) [19:37]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Needs more GUI [19:46]
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mircea_popescu mcorlett lol [19:54]
mircea_popescu wanna css my json ? [19:54]
mcorlett I'll CSS your JSON anyday, baby. [19:56]
* mcorlett forgot to /nick mcorlette before posting that [19:56]
mircea_popescu lol [19:57]
mod6 ok this is better: [20:01]
mod6 F.PURE.SYNTH: [20:01]
mod6 Price: 32950 Volume: 4351323 [20:01]
mod6 Price: 22001 Volume: 10000 [20:01]
mod6 Price: 22000 Volume: 250000 [20:01]
mod6 thanks mircea_popescu [20:01]
mircea_popescu cool beans! [20:01]
rg omg. [20:10]
rg someone kill me [20:10]
* markedathome picks up hammer, looks around can't see rg, places hammer back down [20:11]
mircea_popescu bang [20:11]
mod6 heh, whoops forgot the action type: [20:15]
mod6 F.GIGA.ETF: [20:15]
mod6 S: Price: 157950 Volume: 619925 [20:15]
mod6 thats a little better. [20:15]
mircea_popescu :p [20:15]
mod6 xD [20:16]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Romanians, man. http://i.imgur.com/y8a2T.png [20:18]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2131932/The-REAL-X-Ray-spex--new-terahertz-scanner-lets-mobile-phones-walls.html [20:18]
mircea_popescu jhasn't this been mcorlette's dream since 4ever ? [20:18]
mircea_popescu those are pretty decent rifles actually [20:19]
mircea_popescu esp if it's romanian made. [20:19]
mod6 ak's are great, but you don't get shit over 200m ;) [20:20]
mircea_popescu they're not really meant for that tho [20:20]
mircea_popescu get a scoped single action or whatev [20:21]
mcorlett I remember seeing a Polish one listed the other day, but it seems to be gone. [20:21]
mircea_popescu it's prolly the #1 weapon of all times in terms of mkt demand. [20:22]
mcorlett You know the Poles always make good stuff. [20:22]
mircea_popescu lol [20:23]
mcorlett Flare gun for 50 BTC... [20:24]
mod6 yeah, they're pretty popular. i've had several. i had an ar10 too, and that was pretty fantastic. [20:24]
brznbtni http://i.imgur.com/hqWTh.jpg [20:24]
brznbtni :D [20:24]
brznbtni TeliaSonera rules! [20:24]
mod6 gotta run, bbl! [20:25]
mircea_popescu that's a collector item innit. the ar10 [20:26]
mod6 na. you can buy them. although, now they have some even cooler gas/piston systems you can get. [20:26]
mircea_popescu i thought it was pretty rare. [20:26]
mod6 na. armalite.com [20:27]
mod6 this is what I had: AR-10A4 CARBINE 7.62 [20:28]
mod6 ok gotta run. bbl. [20:28]
mcorlett The AKM is nice. [20:32]
mcorlett More Romanians! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Romanian_AKM_Soldier.JPEG [20:33]
mircea_popescu i know that guy! [20:35]
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mcorlett Drinking buddy? [20:35]
mircea_popescu nah just messin with ya. [20:35]
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mcorlett Found some Chloroform. Description: 50mls of Chloroform. Her are some uses by country: [20:45]
mcorlett USA: Great for kidnapping Brittany Spears [20:45]
mcorlett Canada: Great for kidnapping fellow Canadians [20:45]
mcorlett Mexico: Good for putting boarder guards to sleep [20:45]
mircea_popescu lmao [20:46]
mircea_popescu how much does it go for ? [20:46]
mcorlett 6.33 BTC for 50 ml. [20:46]
mircea_popescu lmao what a gyp [20:46]
mcorlett You can get it for less from your Romanian arms dealer buddies? [20:47]
BTC_Bear Boarder Guards don't require chloroform, they require Smelling Salts. [20:47]
mircea_popescu dood. chloroform is so easy to make it was discovered in like 1800, [20:47]
mircea_popescu not to mention it regularly forms by accident in households [20:47]
mircea_popescu every time someone pours bleach on acetone for instance [20:47]
mcorlett brb going to make some [20:48]
BTC_Bear lol, I accidentally spill bleach on acetone all the time. [20:49]
mcorlett lol [20:49]
mircea_popescu depends how much cleanning you do on your hands and knees and how many french manicures you get. [20:49]
mircea_popescu or how ditzy you are in general i guess :D [20:50]
mcorlett The guy also sells C4. [20:56]
mircea_popescu The European Parliament has approved a ban on naked CDSs, since 1 December 2011, but the ban only applies to debt for sovereign nations. [20:58]
mircea_popescu hardy har har [20:58]
mircea_popescu let us try and hide the truth of the matter for a little bit longer. [20:58]
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merlin1234 anyone who change PCS to BTc ??? [22:21]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [22:24]
mircea_popescu mpex now has 30day/daily avg total volume >D [22:24]
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studix so who is going to exchange some BTC [22:50]
kakobreklaa what for what for how much and how [22:51]
mircea_popescu nm those details! [22:51]
studix btc for euro for around 20 and sepa [22:51]
* studix slaps mircea_popescu [22:52]
studix legit question [22:52]
studix or anyone in with an iDeal dutch transfer. even more welcome than SEPA [22:53]
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kakobreklaa http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu [22:54]
kakobreklaa also sturles is in the game i think [22:54]
kakobreklaa not listed there [22:54]
kakobreklaa !view 4939 [22:55]
studix mqrius is away [22:55]
gribble #4939 Thu Apr 19 11:19:01 2012 sturles SELL 50.0 BTC @ 4.1403 EUR (Bank transfer) [22:55]
studix last time I bought from him thanks to you kakobreklaa [22:55]
mircea_popescu worrisome pic of the day : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133486537174.jpg [22:56]
* studix slaps mircea_popescu again [22:56]
mircea_popescu simmar. [22:57]
rg dude [23:09]
rg now we're on teh THIRD time [23:09]
rg they rebooted our servers [23:09]
rg this migration is NEVER gonna finish [23:09]
Azelphur needs more server reboots [23:09]
rg there are 3 fucking images left to migrate. [23:10]
rg THREE [23:10]
rg theyre tiny [23:10]
rg maybe 30GB total [23:10]
rg and they just wont let me go [23:10]
Azelphur THREE THOUSAND BYTES THAT HAVE TO BE MANUALLY DELIVERED BY LITTLE CHILDREN ON PAPER. [23:10]
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mircea_popescu hey rg [23:29]
mircea_popescu we know you like server reboots, so we rebooted your server while we were rebooting your server [23:29]
mircea_popescu so you can reboot while you reboot. [23:29]
mod6 haha [23:37]
mod6 i put that code up on github, let me know if you guys want linkage. [23:37]
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rg its annoying [23:58]
rg theyve finally managed to stay up for 5 minutes [23:58]
rg so i continued [23:59]
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