Forum logs for 18 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
bigd555 Anyone doing anything for the holiday? [00:15]
bigd555 special? [00:17]
mircea_popescu nope [00:17]
vragnaroda bigd555: World Hemophilia Day? [00:18]
bigd555 Christmas in july [00:19]
vragnaroda That's not a holiday and it ain't July. [00:19]
mircea_popescu im having a holidayeqsue eggplant. [00:20]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: how can I make Twilight Sparkle cutrer [00:23]
mircea_popescu mmm [00:23]
mircea_popescu i have no ideea lol, i can't draw to save my life [00:23]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: would it help if I turned her around so she was facing the content? [00:24]
mircea_popescu maybe ? [00:24]
bigd555 wow got banned for talking about christmas in july and making people think it was the 20th because its so close and people think it was about the 20th [00:25]
spritecan ? [00:25]
mircea_popescu what ? [00:25]
bigd555 I got banned from bitcoin-otc [00:26]
spritecan Is there any way to order food or cigarretes with only paypal? [00:26]
bigd555 you mean like fast food? [00:26]
mircea_popescu lmao what is that place doing... [00:26]
markedathome heard that dominos was taking paypal. [00:27]
spritecan (10:22:32 PM) bigd555 left the room (Kicked by vragnaroda (Time out.)). [00:27]
spritecan (10:22:32 PM) mode (+b *!*macros_pr@* by vragnaroda [00:27]
spritecan bigd555: yep [00:27]
bigd555 most restraunts who have a website that you can order from take paypal... [00:27]
spritecan markedathome: unfortunately thats dominoes was just rumour i checked.. :( [00:27]
spritecan I can only find credit/debit card or cash on delivery [00:28]
spritecan bigd555 you are unbanned now [00:28]
markedathome ok. thanks [00:28]
vragnaroda spritecan: He was told it was a five-minute timeout. [00:29]
* markedathome scrubs list of fastfood places [00:29]
spritecan sorry i don't know anything I'm fresh of the boat [00:29]
spritecan i was just writing in case he didn't know [00:29]
mircea_popescu what boat is that ? [00:31]
spritecan i dunno irc, bitcoin, [00:32]
spritecan you name it [00:32]
spritecan it's all greek :-$ [00:33]
jurov Azelphur: does not work here, it ends with "You have not added MPExes keys." despite i did [00:34]
jurov line 30 should be: [00:35]
jurov if key['fingerprint'].endswith(self.mpex_fingerprint): [00:35]
Azelphur derp, your right must have broke it [00:35]
jurov :) [00:35]
spritecan   if key['fingerprint'] == self.mpex_fingerprint: [00:36]
Azelphur jurov: pushed and fixed [00:37]
spritecan  Fixed key checking (Thanks jurov!) [00:37]
mircea_popescu ow jesus this breaks aegis's win compile ? [00:37]
Azelphur might do [00:37]
* mircea_popescu finds himself suddenly sucked into open source pm ;/ [00:37]
mircea_popescu hey aegis, if you read this : these evil people are writing borked code first and fixing it after instead of the other way!!1 [00:39]
mircea_popescu also, hips. [00:39]
jurov yeah, and now you broke the news there is > 5 of us... so everyone is typing borked code furiously [00:40]
bigd555 God... Some people... [00:40]
mircea_popescu lol jurov [00:40]
* mircea_popescu is really curious to see how the 1st mpex broker looks like [00:41]
mircea_popescu i want to see these fabled rounded corners and die happy dammit [00:41]
ageis no prob [00:43]
ageis ill update [00:43]
vragnaroda lol [00:43]
bigd555 rj on the rating if you could put that I bought 17.8 btc off you today please do so [00:43]
bigd555 I mean "food" doesnt tell much and this IS our 2nd trade [00:44]
jurov oh, is not supposed to accept arguments? [00:47]
Azelphur jurov: it accepts one argument [00:47]
jurov / DEPOSIT 10 [00:47]
jurov Usage: [00:47]
Azelphur that's not the correct syntax for MPEX [00:47]
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mircea_popescu need pipes [00:47]
Azelphur jurov: use the commands listed at [00:47]
Azelphur indeed :P [00:47]
jurov oh nevermind [00:48]
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jurov gentlemen prefer pipes [00:49]
KalturaUser_gj3p ;;buy 100 btc at 0.38 USD [00:49]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. [00:49]
mircea_popescu well actually the pipe is one of the last characters that doesn't pose threats to anyone [00:49]
mircea_popescu like - or _ or etc do to mysql and so on [00:49]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: i cleaned it up some [00:52]
mircea_popescu it is kinda better... but it doesn't sell me [00:53]
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mircea_popescu in other news : pussy. [00:54]
rawrmage hmm, maybe she should point at it [00:56]
ageis mirceau_popescu: i can make a mac binary too :D [01:00]
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jurov sry if it was asked before, mircea, what is your policy about depositing stolen bitcoins? [01:02]
mircea_popescu o hey that'd be great ageis [01:02]
mircea_popescu jurov there is no such policy. [01:02]
jurov you'll accept anything? [01:02]
mircea_popescu no, i'll accept bitcoins. [01:02]
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Vassend ;;buy 25 btc at 570.5 NOK [01:03]
gribble Order id 7657 created. [01:03]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: lol [01:10]
mircea_popescu hm ? [01:10]
vragnaroda <-- Austrians, don't you fucking do it. [01:11]
vragnaroda [18:02] < mircea_pope> | no, i'll accept bitcoins. <-- lol @ this. [01:11]
mircea_popescu lmao fucking [01:11]
mircea_popescu english is nothing tho. there's a croatian town called Pula which happens to be the way you say penis in romanian (english doesn't really have one, all there is is periphrastic, cock schlong etc) [01:13]
kakobreklaa been there several times [01:13]
mircea_popescu and there's a camping in denmark called muie, which is pretty much a good faical [01:13]
mircea_popescu ya me too, it's kinda nice. [01:13]
mircea_popescu either being popular destinations with the faker crowds (teens, generally) [01:14]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: We have nice place names, though, like Penile, KY. (Seriously.) [01:15]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: There's also a Knob Lick, MO. :o [01:18]
* BTC_Bear|hbrntng is now known as BTC_Bear [01:19]
jurov mircea_popescu: just to be sure - BUY/SELL commands expect price per unit? [01:21]
smickles intercourse, KS is my favorite, only 'cause i've been there [01:22]
mircea_popescu jurov yes price per unit in satoshi [01:24]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda haha knob lick [01:24]
mircea_popescu this is pretty cool, i've never visited an overtly & blatantly sexual town in the us [01:24]
mircea_popescu google map for intercourse, KS turns up nothing much [01:26]
mircea_popescu there's peculiar... [01:27]
rawrmage don't forget intercourse, PA [01:27]
smickles woah! did they rename the town or something? [01:27]
jurov put just intercourse into searchbox [01:28]
rawrmage dunno [01:28]
jurov it offers 5 places [01:28]
mircea_popescu Best Western Intercourse Village Inn & Restaurant‎ [01:28]
jurov (but not KS) [01:28]
smickles or maybe I was bamboozled [01:28]
mircea_popescu lol poor smickles! [01:28]
mircea_popescu herpderps on the internet one day only to discover [01:28]
mircea_popescu that his secret place of places was a FRAUD! [01:28]
smickles OMG, It was actually Peabody! [01:30]
mircea_popescu lol [01:30]
smickles asshat locals duped me [01:31]
jurov or it exists, just not on google maps [01:31]
mircea_popescu right, underground town of intercourse, ks [01:31]
smickles jurov: well, I retraced my route, on the map it's labeled as peabody [01:32]
mircea_popescu maybe they name it smickles :D [01:32]
mircea_popescu for "that one funny stranger" [01:32]
jurov According to our research there was one registered sex offender living in Peabody, Kansas in July 2011. [01:32]
mircea_popescu god that entire sex offender registry crap [01:33]
jurov what you did there in july'11? confess!!! [01:33]
smickles jurov: '06 [01:34]
smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, that guy probably got drunk and pissed on a tree [01:34]
mircea_popescu lol [01:34]
smickles BAM! now he's a sex offender [01:34]
mircea_popescu IN SIGHT OF CHILDREN!!! [01:34]
smickles nope [01:34]
smickles in sight of concenting adult [01:35]
mircea_popescu conceited ? [01:35]
smickles i mean asshat [01:35]
mircea_popescu lol [01:35]
smickles my new favorite word [01:35]
mircea_popescu i always wondered why hat. why not asscup. [01:36]
mircea_popescu assmuff. [01:36]
mircea_popescu asscork [01:36]
mircea_popescu etc. [01:36]
jurov 'mericans like their expletives short [01:37]
smickles "One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. AsshatA person, of either gender, whose behavior displays such ignorance/obnoxiousness that you would like to make them wear their [01:37]
smickles " [01:37]
smickles yeah, jurov, that's why "fuck" and "shit" are so popular [01:38]
jurov it is effective but lacks proper depth [01:39]
mircea_popescu ++ [01:39]
jurov i for one more like russian approach [01:39]
mircea_popescu douchebag is worse [01:39]
mircea_popescu what fucking sort of an insult is that. [01:39]
mircea_popescu it basically does the same thing the prostate + pelvic muscles do : irigate teh vagina [01:40]
jurov they shortened it to douche already [01:40]
mircea_popescu soon it'll be dou [01:40]
mircea_popescu as in stu is such a dou [01:40]
mircea_popescu and then i'll think they're retarded and they'll think it's unfair they can't get good paying jobs. [01:41]
smickles people actually say "stfu" as "stew-foo" [01:43]
mircea_popescu yea, jewz. [01:45]
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jurov CxBTC x 10.83956224 [02:00]
jurov S.MPOE x 361`389 [02:00]
mircea_popescu aha ? [02:00]
jurov interesting collection of numeric formats [02:00]
jurov if i had 100k btc, it would be 100`000, right? [02:01]
rg your CxBTC would [02:01]
rg buy S.BBPS [02:01]
rg er [02:01]
rg S.BVPS [02:01]
mircea_popescu why does redirect to some obscure mud now ?! [02:02]
spritecan obscure mud? [02:03]
mircea_popescu whoa look at this vs [02:03]
rg probably a misconfigured httpd [02:04]
mircea_popescu prolly. [02:04]
rg actually no.. [02:04]
rg it shows the same site for me [02:04]
rg redirects to www. [02:04]
rg ok passport photo time [02:05]
rg bbl [02:05]
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mircea_popescu Life without sex might be safer but it would be unbearably dull. It is the sex instinct which makes women seem beautiful, which they are once in a blue moon, and men seem wise and brave, which they never are at all. Throttle it, denaturalize it, take it away, and human existence would be reduced to the prosaic, laborious, boresome, imbecile level of life in an anthill. [02:59]
mircea_popescu lmao isn't he nice. [02:59]
rawrmage the what [02:59]
rawrmage who is that, mircea_popescu [02:59]
mircea_popescu a guy by the name of mencken [03:00]
mircea_popescu [03:00]
rawrmage that's an interesting view on sex [03:01]
mircea_popescu i thought it was the prevailing view. [03:02]
rawrmage i think it's not entirely true though [03:03]
rawrmage s/entirely/mostly/ [03:03]
mircea_popescu hm ? [03:03]
rawrmage life without sexual attraction isn't unbearably dull [03:03]
mircea_popescu before or after ? [03:04]
rawrmage what? [03:05]
mircea_popescu life without sexual attraction isn't unbearably dull before it becomes without sexual attraction or after ? [03:05]
rawrmage 'becomes without sexual attraction'? [03:05]
mircea_popescu ok, in maybe better words : [03:06]
mircea_popescu the life of the gelding seems unbearable to the stallion [03:06]
mircea_popescu but not to the gelding. [03:06]
smickles topic is sex now? [03:06]
* smickles reads log a bit [03:06]
rawrmage oh, I see what you mean [03:06]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: you realize that there are plenty of people that don't experience sexual attraction without having a modification done (i.e. castration) [03:07]
mircea_popescu i don't so realize. [03:08]
rawrmage [03:08]
* smickles clicked the wiki link to melcken, read 'joyist' instead of 'journalist' [03:08]
mircea_popescu lol smickles [03:08]
mircea_popescu rawrmage are you aware most genetic deffects cause sterility ? [03:08]
mircea_popescu a healthy sex drive is the measuring stick of nature. anything w/o it is borkt. [03:09]
rawrmage lol [03:09]
smickles my .002 btc, sex is "awesome … like a hot dog" but terribly distracting [03:09]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: yes, I realize genetic defects often cause sterility [03:10]
smickles and seriously, if you're not having kids, and your are able to, wtf? [03:10]
rawrmage as far as I know, sterility != lack of sexual attraction [03:10]
mircea_popescu smickles haha, i am able to and not intend to. [03:10]
mircea_popescu apparently we're distributed on this spectrum :D [03:10]
smickles lol [03:10]
rawrmage and are you calling asexuals broken now? :P [03:11]
mircea_popescu im generally causing trouble. [03:11]
mircea_popescu but yes, it is my considered oppinion that frigidity is a condition. [03:11]
smickles I just see value in life, and I see producing children as the thing to do if you value life [03:12]
rawrmage you realize it's completely possible to have relations that aren't centred around sex, right? [03:12]
rawrmage centered [03:12]
smickles I only have one relation where sex is even involved [03:13]
mircea_popescu rawrmage i do not so realize. [03:13]
* mircea_popescu can't usually stand people he doesn;t fuck. [03:14]
smickles maybe a couple where sex is a stifled desire [03:14]
smickles mircea_popescu: where does that leave our relationship :? [03:14]
smickles lol [03:14]
mircea_popescu smickles hehe, iternet is ok, just a succession of tubes. [03:15]
rawrmage well you can do that, mircea_popescu! [03:15]
mircea_popescu tubes ? [03:15]
smickles I can imagine what you do with tubes [03:15]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: people have relationships without being centered around sex [03:15]
mircea_popescu it's not even possible, that. [03:16]
mircea_popescu they might not consumate it, but all relationships squarely rest on the apparatus of sex. [03:16]
rawrmage it is /too/ [03:16]
mircea_popescu both mental and otherwise. [03:16]
rawrmage mental sex? [03:16]
mircea_popescu when you think someone's pretty cool you're thinking an edulclorated version of "i want them to have my babies" [03:17]
smickles mircea_popescu: so freud likes your relationship w/ your mom ;) [03:17]
mircea_popescu i taught freud all he knew hehe [03:17]
smickles mircea_popescu: the "want to have my babies" statement is an unfounded assertation [03:17]
* mircea_popescu knows a certain party whose name starts with v or s isn't awake, because otherwise we'd have seen "edulcorated" :D [03:17]
mircea_popescu its very much founded. [03:18]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: but not always, because some people do not experience sexual attraction to others... [03:18]
smickles not in logic [03:18]
mircea_popescu no, in sex. [03:18]
mircea_popescu rawrmage : a rose by any other name. [03:18]
rawrmage sorry? [03:18]
smickles rawrmage: he's asserting that any positive feeling for another is sexual desire [03:19]
mircea_popescu stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus. [03:19]
mircea_popescu it's latin. it means that things are what they are and words are pale shadows of that. therefore, your distinction is thus proven invalid :D [03:19]
smickles it's just a flawed model of reality [03:19]
rawrmage smickles: oh come on! ( [03:19]
mircea_popescu ok rawrmage, consider the problem of a mars rover [03:20]
smickles rawrmage: the people who make that show are atheistic skeptics who value logic and critical thinking, i hear [03:20]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: your argument is that whether or not we deny the basis of feelings for others they're still based in sexual desire? [03:20]
rawrmage smickles: lol [03:20]
mircea_popescu it has two tracks to move on, a camera to inspect environment with and a claw to manipulate environment with. [03:20]
mircea_popescu now no matter what you use it to do, it will still have been done with the claw. [03:21]
mircea_popescu cause that's all there is there. [03:21]
rawrmage we have other methods of appreciating others than sexually [03:21]
mircea_popescu no, we do not. [03:21]
rawrmage oh, /I see/ [03:21]
mircea_popescu but it's sexy to claim we do. [03:21]
mircea_popescu like telling the girl you'll dump her. [03:22]
mircea_popescu then have wild makeup sex. [03:22]
smickles rawrmage: | grep I will [03:22]
rawrmage you're arguing that any feeling we think about another "i like them because they are smart" is because we are designed to feel this way so we reproduce with people with more desireable traits? [03:22]
mircea_popescu irrespective of the fact you've been on a deserted island forever. [03:22]
mircea_popescu exactly. [03:22]
smickles mircea_popescu: flawed logic [03:22]
mircea_popescu your momma! [03:22]
smickles lol [03:22]
mircea_popescu hehehe [03:23]
rawrmage just because it may come from sex doesn't mean it has to involve sex [03:23]
mircea_popescu mmmmm... [03:23]
rawrmage smickles: lol [03:23]
mircea_popescu what, by fiat ? [03:23]
smickles fiat sex [03:23]
smickles :D [03:23]
mircea_popescu just because it comes from a chemical plant it doesn;'t have to involve chemicals ? [03:23]
rawrmage smickles: except the moral of the story is " I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means you have to choose to believe in them, and sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way." [03:23]
smickles rawrmage: well, you have to assume that reality exists [03:24]
mircea_popescu and btw smickles fiat sex is great, esp if you do it with an older Fiat and a newer girl. [03:24]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: because the basis of positive feelings comes from selecting favourable traits for evolution doesn't mean that we secretly have to want to have sex with anyone we feel positive feelings about [03:24]
smickles I guess it's just different interpretations of the same thing [03:24]
mircea_popescu why not ? [03:24]
rawrmage example: i think you are a cool person for making MPEx - i do not secretly want to reproduce with you [03:25]
smickles OT: it would be nice if someone could actually prove reality exists [03:25]
mircea_popescu rawrmage can you prove this absence ? [03:25]
smickles flawed logic [03:26]
rawrmage you can't prove an absence [03:26]
mircea_popescu smickles it's a moot point tho, proving reality exists. [03:26]
mircea_popescu rawrmage sooo if you can't prove it why do you claim it ? [03:26]
rawrmage i fail to reject the hypothesis that I want to have sex with you [03:26]
smickles mircea_popescu: moot, only b/c everyone just assumes the existance [03:26]
mircea_popescu smickles problem of definition moreover. we define reality a certain way, needs no further proof and exists no further than the definition [03:27]
mircea_popescu rawrmage you may prefer to not have sex, or want to not want to or whatever. people are complicated. which takes us right back to the original point : [03:27]
smickles mircea_popescu: are you just saying that to be funny in some demented way [03:27]
smickles !! [03:27]
gribble Error: "!" is not a valid command. [03:27]
mircea_popescu if they weren't it'd be fucking dull. [03:27]
smickles troll! [03:27]
smickles you can't just define reality as existing and say that proves it exists [03:28]
mircea_popescu orly. [03:28]
mircea_popescu watch me. [03:28]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: i thought the original point was that 'life without sex would be really boring' [03:29]
smickles :P implied in my statement is that you can't do that and be sound or cogent in your reasoning [03:29]
mircea_popescu rawrmage ya but you mean something different than he does :) [03:29]
mircea_popescu smickles haha, you've already proven it for me then. [03:29]
mircea_popescu since "cogent" and "sound" kinda presuppose a reality anyway. [03:29]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: i suppose [03:30]
* mircea_popescu this reminds me of like back in hs. [03:30]
smickles mircea_popescu: I already said that everyone assumes reality to exist [03:30]
mircea_popescu smickles : you're doing something like this. "let me tell you a story. so, there's this car. wait. does the car exist ?" [03:31]
mircea_popescu well dood... yes, if we're talking in the context where it does, then it does. [03:31]
smickles lol, I think you've misunderstood what I was trying to communicate [03:31]
mircea_popescu possibly [03:31]
mircea_popescu << reparations. [03:32]
ageis smickles: Actually, Descartes begins his philosophy by doubting the existence of reality. [03:32]
mircea_popescu and in words, no less. [03:32]
smickles ageis: decartes really messed up and needed god to explain reality tho [03:32]
ageis smickles: right [03:33]
smickles he had a strange opinion of animals too [03:33]
smickles and thought humans weren't animals [03:34]
ageis i sure wish my mind was a different substance than my body, but it aint. [03:34]
ageis different type [03:35]
rawrmage tastes like carbon [03:35]
smickles I think the reason he is one of the era enders in philosophy is b/c he messed up 'so bad' people were like, well, we need to do something different [03:35]
smickles not really tho [03:35]
smickles it's just funny tho think of it that way [03:35]
mircea_popescu he's usually quoted in europe w/o the last conjecture, so... it's kinda funny. [03:36]
ageis no, u are right. you get to Hume, and later to the pragmatists, and they all recognize descartes as nonsense [03:36]
mircea_popescu you got 50-50 odds of picking up a philosophy undegrad by pointing out ot her that yes yes but, sum ergo deus est. [03:36]
smickles ageis: I meant it in a more sudden way [03:36]
smickles like his neighbor said, " fuck, descartes, you fucked up so bad, my philosophy just changed" [03:37]
mircea_popescu people are going to wake up in the morning and go... o look! bitcoin-otc-eu-history-of-western-thought-and-fucking [03:37]
BTC_Bear Philosophy Hour? waiting for Zen Tome Hour. :) [03:38]
smickles "and fucking" [03:38]
mircea_popescu who's zen tome ? [03:38]
smickles your first myspace friend [03:38]
BTC_Bear If you know immediately the candle is lit, then the meal was cooked long ago. [03:38]
ageis smickles: yea well, he was accused of putting forth "intentionally weak" proofs of the existence of God and almost was branded a heretic, when really he was earnest. so yeah [03:39]
ageis he fukt up [03:39]
mircea_popescu dun gooft. [03:39]
smickles I saw something not too long ago which was entertaining and a bit on topic here [03:40]
mircea_popescu not possible [03:41]
smickles [03:41]
smickles the title has much of nothing to do with it [03:41]
smickles and there are two versions of the event [03:42]
smickles I link to the one that is not divided into umpteen parts [03:42]
smickles 'cause if you are actually going to watch that, you shouldn't be bothered with clicking "continue" [03:43]
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mircea_popescu apparently my bitcoin-qt croaked [03:47]
mircea_popescu last block generated %n seconds ago [03:47]
smickles the first comment I saw on that video was a youtube classic [03:48]
smickles "that was suprisingly easy to masturbate to" [03:48]
smickles and I'll say this and go back in my hole [03:49]
smickles Hitler [03:49]
rg smickles = hitler? [03:50]
rawrmage smickler [03:50]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:50]
smickles I think I have the smickler nick [03:51]
smickles yup [03:52]
ageis Godwin's law [03:54]
rg smickles im going to steal your reporting [04:25]
smickles rg: it's typical accounting stuff. I encourage you to use the system [04:28]
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BTC_Bear CPA Student? [04:44]
kakobreklaa !bc,convert eur [04:44]
gribble 1 BTC = 5.04702 U.S. dollars = 3.84125124 Euros [04:44]
mircea_popescu rg : that's a good ideea. [04:55]
mircea_popescu make sure you understand how it goes tho, not end up putting wrong figures in spots [04:55]
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mircea_popescu ahh, good morning otc [11:30]
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jurov good afternoon [13:11]
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mircea_popescu hehe [13:19]
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mircea_popescu ok, this is possibly the most retarded thing found on wikipedia [13:41]
mircea_popescu which is really saying a lot. [13:41]
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mircea_popescu An ‘automatic’ gold currency is part and parcel of a laissez-faire and free-trade economy. It links every nation’s money rates and price levels with the money-rates and price levels of all the other nations that are ‘on gold.’ It is extremely sensitive to government expenditure and even to attitudes or policies that do not involve expenditure directly, for example, to foreign policy, to certain policies of taxation, and, in general, [13:57]
mircea_popescu to precisely all those policies that violate the principles of [classical] liberalism. This is the reason why gold is so unpopular now and also why it was so popular in a bourgeois era. It imposes restrictions upon governments or bureaucracies that are much more powerful than is parliamentary criticism. It is both the badge and the guarantee of bourgeois freedom – of freedom not simply of the bourgeois interest, but of freedom in the bourgeo [13:57]
mircea_popescu is sense. From this standpoint a man may quite rationally fight for it, even if fully convinced of the validity of all that has ever been urged against it on economic grounds. From the standpoint of etatisme and planning, a man may not less rationally condemn it, even if fully convinced of the validity of all that has ever been urged for it on economic grounds. [13:57]
mircea_popescu aha! [13:57]
kakobreklaa mornin [14:10]
mircea_popescu heya. [14:11]
kakobreklaa how is it going [14:12]
mircea_popescu same old, same odl. [14:12]
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kakobreklaa anyone wants to swap 100btc for 100giga for 1 month (i have giga) [14:41]
mircea_popescu we could do that. [14:56]
mircea_popescu push them to mircea_popescu on glbse and send me your bitcoin addy kakobreklaa [14:57]
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mod6 morning :) [17:09]
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mircea_popescu heya [17:18]
mod6 lot of action lastnight :D [17:19]
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mircea_popescu hehe [17:24]
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mircea_popescu actually yest is notable cause there was the first withdrawal ever on mpex [17:28]
mircea_popescu this is sorta... well maybe interesting [17:31]
mod6 yah, huh. MARV. looks like he sold quite the number of raffle tix. [17:35]
mod6 Ahh, then he gets cockblocked. [17:37]
mod6 never heard of WePay [17:38]
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smickles < mircea_popescu> actually yest is notable cause there was the first withdrawal ever on mpex << here's hoping it was at a gain [17:59]
mircea_popescu i have no ideea lol [17:59]
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mod6 I was a bit suprised, especially since you're paying interest now on BTC in MPEx accounts. Correct? [18:22]
mircea_popescu yup [18:23]
mod6 *nod* [18:23]
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mod6 ok, i might need a bit of help. [18:37]
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mircea_popescu shoot [18:37]
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mircea_popescu what seems to be the problem mod6 ? [18:37]
mod6 so i was playing with this JSON output from the depth. but it seems that json_to_per() is hosing me over. cause when I get the data back from the PHP, everything is fine, all is there. [18:38]
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mod6 but when that function returns, it eliminates all B/S pairs except for one in that underlying hash. [18:38]
mod6 save one. so I get output like this: [18:38]
mircea_popescu hm [18:38]
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mod6 S.MPOE S => 10992 : 714210 B => 500 : 1000000 [18:39]
mircea_popescu mmm [18:39]
mod6 but thats all i get for that one, and for any other. [18:40]
mod6 anyway, haha. whatever. [18:40]
mircea_popescu is there some json spec of key uniqueness ? [18:40]
mod6 i checked it against LINT. [18:40]
mod6 it says its good. [18:40]
mircea_popescu it seems to me that your function incorrectly puts the stuff in an array. [18:40]
mircea_popescu or maybe that's actually the json spec. [18:41]
mod6 if it was in an array, that would be better, cause then i could just iterate over it and not worry about what keys are there. [18:41]
mircea_popescu cause if you simply move the json data to an array obviously you get key collision as all buys are keyed "B" [18:41]
mod6 right. [18:41]
mircea_popescu but afaik that's valid as is [18:42]
mod6 i'll figure something out that will work. [18:42]
mircea_popescu kk [18:42]
mod6 thanks man :) [18:42]
mircea_popescu haha i didn't do anything :D [18:42]
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mircea_popescu lmao weird pic of the day [19:05]
mircea_popescu check out the guy's shorts lmao [19:06]
spritecan oh god [19:06]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Good thing this isn't #bitcoin-otc, huh? [19:15]
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mircea_popescu what's that ? [19:16]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: The picture of the person of questionable gender, and two males. One of the males was black. [19:17]
mircea_popescu i mean this otc you speak of :D [19:18]
mcorlett lol [19:18]
mircea_popescu hehe [19:18]
mcorlett Clearly I didn't get it. [19:18]
mircea_popescu you think it's a trap ? [19:18]
mcorlett It's a trap. [19:19]
spritecan Is there any way to buy some food with paypal? [19:20]
mircea_popescu im sure there is spritecan rg does it allthe time [19:20]
spritecan mircea_popescu: really? wow [19:20]
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mcorlett If he told you, he would have to kill you. [19:21]
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spritecan I've been looking for some time i only have paypal since monday and nowhere seem to sell [19:21]
spritecan Only place I saw was US only [19:21]
mircea_popescu ya well... [19:23]
spritecan ? [19:23]
mircea_popescu out of the us it might be more difficult. [19:25]
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bigd555 ;;seen draco49 [19:28]
gribble draco49 was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 6 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: stick to the cli or use GPA [19:28]
mcorlett bigd555: Where's draco hiding? [19:29]
bigd555 idk [19:30]
bigd555 thats why I was checking to see if he has been on [19:30]
spritecan ;;seen rg [19:30]
gribble rg was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: smickles im going to steal your reporting [19:30]
bigd555 thursday we made a deal when I was going to pay him friday when he sent something out for me... [19:31]
bigd555 he hasnt sent it out or anything...but its not a scam because I havent paid him for it. [19:32]
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mircea_popescu who knows maybe he ran into some troubkle irl [19:45]
mircea_popescu ohoho, watch the btc/usd go [19:46]
mcorlett He sounds like a stand-up guy, I'd assume this is because of circumstances beyond his control. [19:46]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: wtf [19:46]
mircea_popescu hm ? [19:47]
mcorlett When did we break $5? [19:47]
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mircea_popescu this morn [19:48]
mircea_popescu was a 20k buy that broke the wall [19:48]
markedathome there was a significant btc sell of 10000 on btc-e yesterday afternoon [19:50]
markedathome took about 3 hrs to sell at 4.8 [19:50]
mcorlett markedathome: How is the depth at btc-e? [19:51]
mircea_popescu i wonder if this is like reverse-arbitrage [19:51]
mircea_popescu shitty at best. [19:51]
mircea_popescu wait [19:52]
mircea_popescu it seriously allows you to add funds via pp ?! [19:52]
markedathome it varies sometimes it has little others has huge amounts [19:52]
markedathome no, pp has long gone [19:52]
mircea_popescu still, does about 3-4k btc a day right ? [19:53]
markedathome something like that. it has done much higher recently now that bitinstant allows virtually instant transfers from mtgox/bitcoinica usd deposits [19:54]
markedathome & usd desposits [19:54]
mircea_popescu o ya bitcoinica. woder how it's doing [19:54]
markedathome don't dare look [19:55]
mircea_popescu 22k. not so horrid. [19:55]
markedathome might have more info [19:55]
mcorlett ...SolidCoin? [19:56]
markedathome and alter depth to go back the last 10000 trades [19:56]
markedathome sorry, keep forgetting to switch [19:56]
mircea_popescu lol isnt solid coin the hater altchain ? [19:57]
mcorlett Why aren't the arbitraging bots all over this? BTC-E <-> Mt.Gox, all day, every day. [19:58]
mircea_popescu because there exist no arbitraging bots. [19:58]
markedathome because it was difficult getting funds into btc-e until bitinstant came along. there is still no reasonably automated way to do it. [19:58]
mircea_popescu the arbitraging bots are the bitcoin equivalent of the south sea trading [19:59]
mcorlett Still, keeping a somewhat large balance with both exchanges and manually balancing/topping it off should work, no? [19:59]
markedathome also trade api doesn't exist; the one that i have seen scrapes the screen [19:59]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: [19:59]
mircea_popescu yaya. [20:00]
Bigpiggy01Mining mcorlett it works fairly well but at some point you have to move cash around and then it gets tricky to avoid downtimes for delays [20:00]
markedathome there are some like dnn (aricie bot) which is a hosted mtgox solution [20:00]
mircea_popescu im not saying they don't conceptually existy [20:01]
mircea_popescu im just saying that by watching the market it's apparent they don;'t do much [20:01]
mircea_popescu if they do anything at all. [20:01]
markedathome then there is the bitscalper bot, which existed but is dangerously crap [20:01]
Bigpiggy01Mining I have one running but funding delays stop it after 2-3 days [20:02]
mcorlett Bigpiggy01Mining: Are the profits noteworthy? [20:02]
markedathome and there is a chrome bot which trades at hourly intervals following the goomba approach [20:02]
Bigpiggy01Mining the profits even out to around 0.7-1.2% a day [20:03]
Bigpiggy01Mining on active days much higher but moving funds around really eat a large piece of your cake [20:04]
markedathome manually you can get about 1% from mtgox -> btc-e -> back on each trade but there is still the problem of hour delays moving bitcoins if you are circulating rather than buying / selling on exchanges at the same time. [20:04]
Bigpiggy01Mining especially if you hit wire delays [20:04]
markedathome Bigpiggy01Mining: do you not use bitinstant? [20:05]
Bigpiggy01Mining you need funds in place on both exchanges to do it with any reasonale guarantee of profit [20:05]
markedathome i've done mtgox- > btc-e with aurumxchange and that was about 2 minutes including opening the email to fund the transfer with mtgox code [20:06]
Bigpiggy01Mining I got slightly burnt a few times trying the buy low here move btc to there to sell approach several times [20:06]
markedathome then bitinstant joined in a week or so later [20:06]
Bigpiggy01Mining yup but aurumexchange were probably making more than you were [20:07]
markedathome aurum was painful at 4.5% but at 6.5% no-one used it then dropped it [20:07]
Bigpiggy01Mining the btc-e - gox spread dropped considerably after bitinstant joined the game that's for sure [20:08]
markedathome i did note at one point that you could go mtgox usd/btc code -> bitcoinica -> btc-e for 0%, 0.7% when there was a mtgox -usd -> btc-e for 4.5% which was very odd [20:08]
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mircea_popescu 1% a day on about what, less than 1k btc Bigpiggy01Mining ? [20:10]
Bigpiggy01Mining around 1500 [20:11]
mircea_popescu i guess its not bad, but in a market perspective... you know. [20:11]
Bigpiggy01Mining not an insane amount but it still beats most other investments around [20:12]
mircea_popescu problem is the scale. [20:12]
Bigpiggy01Mining the way my setup works more than say 3k becomes non feasible due to lack of market depth [20:13]
mircea_popescu exactly what i meant [20:13]
mircea_popescu tho i imagined it'd be more like 1k, but anyway i can only see these degree-of-magnitude wise. [20:14]
Bigpiggy01Mining it depends on how many exchange you work between [20:14]
markedathome how many exchanges did you use? [20:14]
Bigpiggy01Mining manually 4 at one point [20:14]
Bigpiggy01Mining with the bot 3 [20:15]
markedathome mtgox/ crypto/tradehill/intersango? [20:15]
Bigpiggy01Mining btcchina/crypto/intersango all of it cross currency [20:15]
markedathome wouldn't have thought any others like bitfloor/bitstamp/vircurex have that much depth [20:15]
Bigpiggy01Mining vircurrex isn't bad but a pain to get cash out of if you aren't a Canadian in Canada [20:16]
Bigpiggy01Mining UGH hold on I mean Virtex [20:16]
Bigpiggy01Mining I think [20:17]
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markedathome do get frustrated with this though [20:19]
markedathome cavirtex is canadian [20:19]
Bigpiggy01Mining yeah but sometimes they have really sweet pricing against Euro or CNY [20:21]
Bigpiggy01Mining ROLF I see they don't have WBX listed anymore [20:21]
markedathome have you seen the brendio post on buying up wbx dollar debt funds? [20:22]
Bigpiggy01Mining that was a goldmine until the scammy cunt who ran it decided to ponzi peoples funds [20:22]
mircea_popescu Bigpiggy01Mining : did you end up with cash tied in there ? [20:22]
markedathome mp; in your girls post she suggests that f.pure.synth isn't backed but I thought you had borrowed a substantial portion of puremining [20:24]
Bigpiggy01Mining some not as bad as many [20:24]
markedathome or has that dropped with the new issues of shares? [20:24]
mircea_popescu Bigpiggy01Mining yea, cause brendio is buying like 24k usd of it i think [20:24]
mircea_popescu markedathome i tried to borrow. a number of people said they will get me stock. in the end not a single one delivered [20:24]
mircea_popescu i strongly suspect the stock does not actually exist as float. [20:25]
markedathome don't know. the ones i thought likely didn't have any in the end. I have my solitary one though! [20:25]
mircea_popescu largest packet i could identify was 1 share. [20:25]
mircea_popescu ya, you and a couple others do. [20:26]
mircea_popescu but for a stock that supposedly floated 10`000 shares i find it VERY improbable that there's not a single 100 shares to borrow. [20:26]
markedathome oh znort lent 125 to brendio apparently [20:26]
spritecan wahey i finally manage to order some chinese food with paypal [20:28]
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mircea_popescu wd [20:29]
spritecan Order status: Cooking : :) :) :) [20:30]
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rg good day [20:44]
markedathome more glbse fun [20:44]
markedathome more glbse/goat fun I should say [20:45]
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mircea_popescu heya. [20:50]
mircea_popescu there is one thing i don't understand markedathome [20:51]
markedathome ? [20:52]
mircea_popescu this kid has the time to spend to write novels on the forum [20:52]
mircea_popescu but if anyone asks him where are at least some pics of his rigs on that site of his [20:52]
mircea_popescu he is "busy". [20:52]
mircea_popescu reminds me of that skepsidyne dood, whatever his name was. [20:52]
markedathome heard about that one, wasn't around for it. [20:52]
markedathome SIN? [20:53]
mircea_popescu yeah [20:53]
mircea_popescu twosend or towsic or something [20:53]
mircea_popescu a yes, tawsix. [20:54]
markedathome and shakaru lost on that as well. [20:56]
mircea_popescu or so he says. [20:58]
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mircea_popescu But what it comes down to is I'm 1/2 of GLBSE's volume clearly the silent large holders know I will fight for their rights and will fight to keep their assets safe. [21:04]
mircea_popescu lol the problem ofcourse here is that he's half of glbse volume trading among his own accounts [21:04]
mircea_popescu which is kind of a sad statement for glbse. [21:04]
markedathome i thought he was running a pool hopping service [21:04]
markedathome possible. see how many shares brendio gets from his request [21:04]
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mircea_popescu it's rather unclear to me what exactly he is running. [21:05]
mircea_popescu some people seem to think he has a 12gh/s farm, tho i've never seen anything definite. [21:06]
mircea_popescu This story combined with the fact that you might actually believe what you are posting (and the fact that you aren't the only one) makes me want to run away from GLBSE and not even consider the new PPT series of bonds available. [21:08]
mircea_popescu this. [21:08]
markedathome i thought that was a comment to the person who thought you could change the information regarding a security / bond / or whatever it was [21:09]
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mircea_popescu well, they have some management issues there i'd say. [21:10]
mod6 yeah, what a fiasco. [21:11]
mcorlett Moral of the story? [21:18]
mircea_popescu moral of the story... mpex is teh bitcoin exchange. [21:23]
mcorlett Typical Mircea... [21:24]
mircea_popescu isn't it :) [21:24]
rg mircea [21:31]
rg why dont you offer some incentive to glbse shareholders [21:31]
rg to come to mpex [21:31]
rg er [21:31]
rg not shareholders [21:31]
rg entities [21:31]
rg who issue shares [21:31]
rg whatever theyre called [21:31]
mcorlett The word you're looking for is "females". [21:31]
rawrmage lol [21:32]
rg mcorlett [21:33]
rg let me migrate your VM [21:33]
rg to the new chicago box [21:33]
rg ok? [21:34]
mcorlett You can shut it down. I won't be renewing the service for now. [21:34]
rg okay [21:34]
rg we have an EU node now btw [21:34]
rg ive found a lot of euro customers like it better, it seems the US boxes just have too much latency [21:35]
rg not that the US boxes suck, its just easy to find an EU provider to get 20ms latency as opposed to like 150ms [21:35]
mcorlett Yeah, if it's any consolation to you, I would've switched to that instead of going for a completely different host if you'd got it up sooner. [21:35]
rg heh its been up for a while [21:36]
rg you sure i can just shut this down? [21:37]
rg nothing you need to grab from it? [21:37]
mircea_popescu rg : cause most of them suck. [21:37]
rg i wont delete it for a few days, just in case you remember something you needed [21:37]
mircea_popescu lol mcorlett is such a snip :D [21:38]
rg mircea_popescu: he already aired his concerns that it was US based [21:39]
rg and he was EU [21:39]
rg so its not like its a surprise [21:39]
rg i dont blame him [21:39]
mircea_popescu i blame him. [21:39]
mircea_popescu and canada. [21:39]
mircea_popescu but mostly him. [21:39]
rg we lost a lot of customers cause of the migration [21:39]
rg customers would rather have a box that lags out / goes down [21:39]
rg than have to switch [21:40]
rg which is fine [21:40]
Azelphur rg: haha what, that makes no sense [21:40]
rg Azelphur: i dont try to understand the mind of a customer [21:40]
Azelphur did you not migrate data or something? [21:40]
rg ofcourse im migrating the data [21:40]
mircea_popescu o hey Azelphur [21:40]
Azelphur your customers are weird [21:40]
Azelphur hey mircea_popescu [21:40]
rg we had to leave the dc due to too much downtime [21:40]
rg so we switched to a much nicer place [21:41]
Azelphur owait, I'm a customer [21:41]
Azelphur self insult! [21:41]
mircea_popescu did you see there's now both windows and mac compiled binary ? :D [21:41]
rg and some people decided to just not move [21:41]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: hehe [21:41]
Azelphur I'm about 50% done with the web interface [21:41]
mircea_popescu o hey, that's cool [21:41]
* mircea_popescu is getting really curious to see these fabled sites [21:42]
Azelphur hoping to have a screenshot soon, I'm just working on scraping data from MPEx now [21:43]
BTC_Bear lol [21:44]
mircea_popescu where are you scraping iot from ? [21:44]
Azelphur mpex-mktdepth.php [21:44]
mircea_popescu a ok lol [21:44]
mircea_popescu thought you were actually scraping the mpex.php [21:44]
Azelphur haha [21:45]
mircea_popescu i was all omgno [21:45]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: you make it sound so terrible, yet no JSON output for commands :p [21:45]
* Azelphur runs [21:45]
mcorlett OH [21:45]
mircea_popescu [21:45]
mcorlett Then again, Mr. Popescu had it coming. [21:46]
mircea_popescu whassat mcorlett ? [21:46]
mircea_popescu btw, if anyone is curious, here's brendio and the girl conferencing on matters serious : [21:46]
mcorlett The girl doesn't /really/ exist, does she? [21:48]
mircea_popescu yes she does? [21:48]
mircea_popescu Among the many companies to go public in 1720 is—famously—one that advertised itself as "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is". [21:50]
mircea_popescu god i love history. [21:50]
mcorlett You'd have to pay top dollar for a girl with her smarts. [21:51]
mircea_popescu so ? [21:51]
mircea_popescu are you sayin i ain't got top dollah mr corlett ? :D [21:52]
mcorlett I must have underestimated how much your ventures really bring in, then. [21:53]
mircea_popescu i don't see how you could actually estimate. [21:54]
mcorlett guesstimate [21:54]
markedathome South Sea Company, which caused financial ruin for many in the South Sea Bubble (paraphrase wikipedia) [21:54]
mircea_popescu indeed markedathome [21:54]
mcorlett [21:55]
mircea_popescu do you mean bitcoin ventures mcorlett ? [21:55]
mcorlett 1800 BTC for that baby. [21:55]
markedathome google takes all the fun out of being well read now... [21:55]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Yes. [21:55]
mircea_popescu well doh. you can actually get the exact figures, they're published. [21:55]
mircea_popescu but i am investing over a broad spectrum and have been for close to half a year. if i were to bootstrap on btc revenue it'd be a sad story. [21:56]
mcorlett Does she handle your other shit as well? [21:56]
mircea_popescu some. [21:56]
mcorlett I can see how that might work out, then. [21:56]
mircea_popescu she's primarily a pretty kick ass copywriter. [21:56]
mircea_popescu indeed it does markedathome. then again, at least being well read means you understood it, not just c/p [21:58]
mircea_popescu A resolution was proposed in parliament that bankers be tied up in sacks filled with snakes and tipped into the murky Thames. [22:09]
BTC_Bear markedathome: Do you know me, Lord? [22:12]
markedathome ? [22:12]
BTC_Bear Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2 [22:12]
markedathome only had a comprehensive education, and therefore only watched macbeth not read it :-( [22:13]
markedathome and that was the only shakespeare I read. (apart from neil gaiman's twists on the stories) [22:14]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: [22:14]
Azelphur progress >:) [22:14]
BTC_Bear Cliff Notes for me, Reading Shakespeare is torture. [22:14]
mircea_popescu scrot ? [22:14]
Azelphur SCReenshOT tool [22:14]
Azelphur I admit it's a terrible name for a piece of software too [22:15]
BTC_Bear [22:15]
Azelphur xD [22:15]
mircea_popescu lol [22:15]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: what you think, looking good? :P [22:15]
markedathome oh and watching romeo+juliet because claire danes is hot [22:15]
mircea_popescu dude, i totally abstain from any judgement on how things look, [22:16]
mircea_popescu seeing how the community seems to agree on one thing only, [22:16]
Azelphur surprise me that does not [22:16]
mircea_popescu that being that i have no ideea [22:16]
Azelphur xD [22:16]
* markedathome laughs [22:16]
mircea_popescu so you know... not wanting to further embarass myself... [22:16]
Azelphur I don't either, I have a guy that works with me so he did the CSS/HTML [22:16]
Azelphur while I'm doing the django codo monkey stuff [22:16]
markedathome it's a bit er, ... wide [22:16]
jurov at least i have got a better name [22:17]
Azelphur markedathome: it scales down [22:17]
mircea_popescu so it's gonna be called bitcoin asset exchange ? [22:17]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: I think so, sound good? [22:17]
mircea_popescu not rly tbh. [22:17]
Azelphur again, this is if I actually finish it [22:17]
markedathome typo in LastTrade [22:17]
Azelphur *shrug* [22:17]
mircea_popescu you need something with punch [22:18]
Azelphur Bitcoin asset exchange...WITH ADDED PUNCH *picture of huge fist* [22:18]
mircea_popescu bitcoin asset exchange is like a porn star named Elizabeth Rosemund Whittington [22:18]
mircea_popescu there's a reason they're called Kyrra Haze and shit like that [22:18]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: how would I get whether the asset has gone up/down in value? [22:19]
Azelphur so I can color my rows properly :P [22:19]
* mircea_popescu laughs as ppl google kyrra haze furiously [22:19]
mcorlett Yeah, something with punch... like... um... Mr. Popescu's Option Emporium! [22:19]
mircea_popescu mcorlett ima send a spanking squad your way! [22:19]
mcorlett That does pack quite the punch, admittedly. [22:19]
mircea_popescu Azelphur : compare last trade to prev-last trade ? [22:19]
mircea_popescu or you mean averages ? [22:20]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: yea, I think that's what I want, where do I get that data? [22:20]
mircea_popescu well i have a rss and a twitter [22:20]
mircea_popescu what'd you prefer ? :) [22:20]
Azelphur haha [22:20]
* mircea_popescu inb4 last trades json [22:20]
jurov you should color rows according to asset WILL got up/down, that'll be more interesting [22:20]
Azelphur jurov: haha, no way to calculate that though? [22:20]
mircea_popescu so what'd you like Azelphur ? [22:21]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: I suppose your right that I should pull it from a feed [22:21]
mircea_popescu i imagine the rss shouldn't be too bad ? i dunno, im open to support. [22:22]
Azelphur I'd do it with twitter since I need to hook into realtime anyway [22:22]
mircea_popescu you do get it somehow for the bot tho don't you ? [22:22]
Azelphur yep, twitter realtime streaming api [22:22]
Azelphur so I can do it like that :P [22:22]
mircea_popescu ok so then that! [22:22]
mircea_popescu btw, what about "bitcon universal trust & trade services" ? [22:23]
mircea_popescu you'd be BUTTS [22:23]
Azelphur lmao [22:23]
mod6 haha [22:23]
Azelphur Asset Pirates? :D [22:23]
rg Az [22:23]
rg can we see [22:23]
rg your rough draft of the front end? [22:24]
Azelphur (20:14:16) Azelphur: mircea_popescu: [22:24]
mircea_popescu Assed Pirates lol [22:24]
mircea_popescu he's the guy who made a scrot [22:24]
Azelphur xD [22:24]
mcorlett Is scrot the broker or just some interface? [22:25]
mircea_popescu You could call it the bee's knees, and have a nice bee with tits for a logo. [22:25]
Azelphur [22:25]
Azelphur >.< [22:25]
mcorlett "Recent releases [...] 2003" [22:25]
mircea_popescu you releasing it under the bsd terms ?! [22:25]
Azelphur *facedesk* XD [22:26]
mcorlett "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." [22:27]
mircea_popescu i like squirrelmail [22:35]
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markedathome i used to like eudora, before it thunderbirdified [22:37]
mircea_popescu this btw is a pretty decent author on economics, and this is a pretty decent work [22:39]
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mircea_popescu << this is really funnay [22:46]
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rg time for an old classic movie [22:54]
* rg needs to blow off some steam [22:54]
* jurov will probably do the same, has headaches over bitcoind listtransactions sematics [23:04]
jurov *semantics [23:05]
mcorlett jurov: Was that an attempt at an inconspicuous call for help? [23:05]
jurov Just trying to figure out how to maintain accurate btc account balances without pingponging too often with bitcoind.. [23:07]
mcorlett You'd be better off not using Bitcoin's accounting functionality altogether. [23:08]
jurov figured that out already [23:08]
jurov but since tx's can appear and vanish (although not very probable if they are past certain age) at pretty any time, good synch strategy is needed [23:09]
jurov okay, worked something out. now it's time to run to US patent office and extort everyone else. [23:16]
mircea_popescu hehe go for it [23:24]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: That is good but ew @ reading it in translation [23:32]
mircea_popescu well if i put it up in french... [23:33]
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