Forum logs for 18 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu draco49, did you have a mpex acct ? [00:01]
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draco49 yeah, you said you added me [00:01]
raw_nector what is mpex for btw? [00:01]
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mircea_popescu so go buy/sell stuff :D [00:02]
mircea_popescu raw_nector its the beta of a stock exchange [00:02]
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draco49 mircea_popescu, I'm gonna get to it... :) [00:03]
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mircea_popescu :D [00:03]
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raw_nector if I had bitcoin, i'd take a look. [00:04]
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mircea_popescu well maybe you get some. [00:04]
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raw_nector trying, no one wants to trade for ppusd :p [00:04]
mircea_popescu yeah, that may be hard as a new user. [00:05]
draco49 wait for spawn- to get here [00:05]
draco49 he'll probably trade with you for PP [00:06]
mircea_popescu anyone seen mark hunt ? [00:06]
raw_nector yep. need to get a rating some how [00:06]
draco49 lol [00:06]
raw_nector anyone recommend a good method for a beginner to continue trading without using PP? [00:09]
Cusipzzz raw_nector: moneypak if you are in the US [00:10]
raw_nector what are the advantages for using that? I thought it was the same as a prepaid debit card [00:11]
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splatster Would a countdown function be a nice thing for me to make for pebbles? [00:16]
cheebydi Cuspizzz: and if you're not in the US? [00:17]
mircea_popescu bank wires work, cash in hand works [00:17]
Cusipzzz cheebydi: wire transfer to mtgox [00:17]
bonks1 What is the easiest way to fund my mtgox account? [00:17]
mircea_popescu basically anything that doesn't allow you to go "o, wait, i would like my money back whine whine" works [00:17]
raw_nector so how does a moneypak work ? [00:18]
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Mad7Scientist ;;ticker [00:20]
gribble Best bid: 5.3161, Best ask: 5.32713, Bid-ask spread: 0.01103, Last trade: 5.3161, 24 hour volume: 23933, 24 hour low: 5.31, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [00:20]
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dsmouse ;;ticker [00:31]
gribble Best bid: 5.29908, Best ask: 5.3, Bid-ask spread: 0.00092, Last trade: 5.3, 24 hour volume: 29609, 24 hour low: 5.29908, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [00:31]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [00:33]
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splatster gmaxwell: Would it be easier if there was an announcebot of sorts? [00:43]
gmaxwell splatster: whats uneasy? [00:43]
splatster posting that repeatedly to multiple channels seems like it would become tedious very quickly [00:44]
coingenuity splatster: my bot does that [00:45]
gmaxwell er... [00:45]
coingenuity its annoying X_x [00:45]
gmaxwell splatster: I'm not doing that manually. [00:45]
splatster oh lol [00:45]
gmaxwell unless you think I was setting an alarm to wake up once an hour last night... :) [00:45]
splatster lol [00:45]
coingenuity gmaxwell: your commitment knows no bounds, i would not be surprsied! [00:45]
coingenuity muahah [00:45]
copumpkin lol [00:46]
gmaxwell well perhaps, but it's far outpaced by my lazyness and ability to automated stupid stuff. [00:46]
gmaxwell er automate* [00:46]
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coingenuity you and me both [00:47]
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coingenuity i am automating botchatter via PM right now [00:47]
coingenuity lol [00:47]
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danieldaniel ;;ping [00:50]
gribble pong [00:50]
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splatster Is this an okay format for a countdown command? .countdown mm/dd/yyyy [00:50]
splatster I'm gonna go live with that on pebbles soon. [00:50]
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BTC_Bear It's not international. So to be fair, I'd go with yyyy/mm/dd [00:53]
splatster okay [00:53]
BTC_Bear Those Euro types like dd/mm/yyyy so split the diff [00:53]
draco49 forget the /'s [00:54]
draco49 yyyymmdd [00:54]
splatster It can take it with '/' or ' ' or '-' but it needs one of those as separators [00:54]
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draco49 can't you just use awk to read the 1st 4 digits as year, the next 2 as month, and the last two for day? [00:56]
splatster draco49: This allows for people forgetting to add leading zeros [00:57]
draco49 you should be able to write a regex for that also [00:57]
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cheebydi someone selling BTC for PP? [01:03]
splatster draco49: What if someone uses 2012203 as their date? Did they mean 2012/20/3 or 2012/2/03? [01:03]
neofutur ;;getrating cheebydi [01:03]
gribble User cheebydi, created on Thu Mar 15 15:20:25 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: Currently authenticated from hostmask cheebydi! [01:03]
Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak? [01:04]
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splatster What about a plugin? Would be useful? [01:09]
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splatster copumpkin: Something wrong? [01:10]
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chwergy when writing shell scripts for bash.. how do i get the terminal to wait for me to press a letter or close the terminal [01:20]
mcorlett pause? [01:20]
chwergy tried it [01:20]
chwergy i think there is a special syntax [01:20]
chwergy pause& ? [01:20]
mcorlett read -p "Press Enter to bla bla" [01:20]
chwergy cool thanks [01:21]
mcorlett pause was Windows :p [01:21]
chwergy @PAUSE? [01:21]
chwergy that didnt werk :P [01:22]
mcorlett read didn't work? [01:22]
chwergy nope [01:22]
chwergy it didnt [01:22]
chwergy ill look at the read doc [01:22]
chwergy pread? [01:23]
chwergy nope.. [01:23]
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chwergy that should work.. [01:24]
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Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak? [01:28]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [01:33]
chwergy What?! [01:34]
chwergy No-one ever told me about THAT! [01:34]
chwergy lawl [01:34]
mcorlett It's been spammed in-channel for over a day now. [01:34]
splatster ^ [01:34]
chwergy yeah i know :P [01:34]
vragnaroda splatster: Fucking quit it already. No one gives a shit. Also, do you know why neofutur is under the impression that it's closed-source? [01:34]
chwergy (sarcasm) [01:34]
luke-jr vragnaroda: because it is temporarily [01:35]
splatster vragnaroda: It's on github, the latest changes aren't on there yet while I vet them a bit more. [01:35]
chwergy rm -rf / [01:35]
vragnaroda luke-jr: I'm talking about the bot. [01:35]
chwergy makes linux faster [01:36]
luke-jr vragnaroda: what bot? [01:36]
dirkdizzler prove it [01:36]
vragnaroda splatster: Have you distributed it at all? [01:36]
vragnaroda luke-jr: phenny [01:36]
chwergy one second lemme open fraps [01:36]
splatster vragnaroda: The latest changes or the bot itself? [01:36]
vragnaroda It's licensed under the EFL2, which is generally considered GPL-compatible. [01:36]
splatster This is the older version of the bot [01:37]
vragnaroda [01:37]
splatster Once the new changes are up, the repo will be renamed appropriately. [01:37]
vragnaroda I don't give a shit about that. [01:37]
copumpkin lol [01:37]
mcorlett copumpkin: Quick! Say something witty. [01:38]
vragnaroda So, basically, the answer to my question is “because he's ignorant.” [01:38]
splatster vragnaroda: Ya. [01:38]
copumpkin mcorlett: I'm fucking awesome [01:38]
splatster It's all open source minus the messy shit I did yesterday. [01:38]
vragnaroda (Although, no less ignorant than thou.) [01:38]
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splatster vragnaroda: I'll stop talking about the bot in chan FFS [01:39]
vragnaroda OK. [01:39]
chwergy Who would like to Sell some BTC? [01:40]
chwergy (~10) [01:41]
mcorlett How are you paying? [01:41]
chwergy PPUSD :$ [01:41]
mcorlett ;;getrating [ident chwergy] [01:42]
chwergy I can't help it, I'm from Canada [01:42]
gribble User chwergy, created on Thu Mar 15 03:43:50 2012. Cumulative rating 4, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details: Currently authenticated from hostmask chwergy!~chwergy@ [01:42]
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chwergy oh btw, anyone know any sites where i can cash out a moneypack? [01:42]
vragnaroda,, whatever the one for greendot is [01:43]
vragnaroda I'm sure there are others, too. [01:43]
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chwergy serve? [01:43]
chwergy i haerd about... something chex? [01:43]
vragnaroda is American Express's person-to-person money transfer thing. [01:43]
chwergy mmk [01:44]
vragnaroda Last I checked, they still gave everyone $10 just to sign up and get a card linked to your account, too. [01:44]
vragnaroda I signed up a while ago, got my card, and pulled the $10 out at a feeless ATM and haven't used it since, but they've added the ability to add money via MoneyPak since then. [01:45]
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chwergy nice [01:46]
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chwergy I'm trading 50 USD via PayPal for 9.2 BTC [01:48]
chwergy anyone interested? [01:49]
danieldaniel vragnaroda: you're that kind of guy? [01:51]
danieldaniel You sign up for something just for the offers [01:51]
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vragnaroda danieldaniel: If it's cash, sure. [01:51]
danieldaniel N00b [01:51]
danieldaniel :) [01:51]
danieldaniel Can I has the card #? [01:51]
danieldaniel :3 [01:52]
vragnaroda You can't do shit with the card number. There's nothing on it. [01:52]
danieldaniel hmm [01:52]
danieldaniel i can call support and dispute the $10 withdrawal [01:52]
danieldaniel and get a $10 credit [01:52]
vragnaroda lol [01:52]
danieldaniel and then withdraw that [01:52]
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vragnaroda IIRC, they charge fees now for ATM use. They didn't when they were new. [01:53]
danieldaniel aww [01:53]
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danieldaniel then I would get like $3 [01:53]
vragnaroda lol [01:53]
vragnaroda danieldaniel: Also, not many ATMs stock bills other than $20s so you may have to spend extra time finding an ATM that's usable. [01:55]
vragnaroda (I know where there are some ATMs where you can pull out 1¢ at a time, though.) [01:56]
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splatster vragnaroda: That doesn't seem like a bad way to avoid fees… [01:57]
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chwergy Buying BTC [01:57]
vragnaroda splatster: What? [01:57]
splatster Although, you would probably have to take all that crap to a bank and get it exchanged or find a coinstar machine. [01:57]
splatster vragnaroda: Taking out 1 cent at a time [01:58]
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vragnaroda Dude, fees are per transaction, not based on the amount in a transaction. [01:58]
vragnaroda If your bank charges you $1 to use a foreign ATM, that's $3.50 for each withdrawal of 1¢. [01:59]
vragnaroda That's expensive. [01:59]
danieldaniel soooooo…………. PPUSD -> BTC pl0x? [01:59]
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vragnaroda * $3.51 [01:59]
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danieldaniel the dub step i'm listening to is creepy [02:00]
splatster vragnaroda: Not if you find a card with percentage based fees. [02:00]
chwergy erm danial [02:01]
chwergy you trying to Buy BTC? [02:01]
splatster danieldaniel: dubstep is annoying, weird, and mostly sans-lyric, get used to it [02:01]
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danieldaniel chwergy: yeah [02:01]
splatster s/lyric/lyrics/ [02:01]
chwergy yeah same.... [02:01]
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danieldaniel ;;ticker [02:04]
gribble Best bid: 5.21501, Best ask: 5.22, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 5.22, 24 hour volume: 39137, 24 hour low: 5.21212, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [02:04]
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vapor 26 [02:10]
chwergy Hey DeL, would you like to Sell BTC? [02:10]
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chwergy ;; [02:11]
chwergy or.. anyone [02:11]
DeLorean719 for what [02:11]
chwergy PayPal [02:15]
chwergy :3 [02:15]
chwergy 50 USD [02:15]
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mircea_popescu chwergy : put all words on one line. [02:18]
chwergy yeah [02:18]
coingenuity good news, everyone! #bitcoin-auctions now uses integrated WoT from -otc to limit participation to authed users [02:18]
OneFixt_ nice, coingenuity [02:19]
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Judgement51 anyone willing to sell btc for moneypak? [02:19]
coingenuity :) [02:19]
chwergy whats your rate Judgement? [02:20]
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chwergy ;;getrating Judgement51 [02:21]
gribble User Judgement51, created on Sat Nov 5 20:05:33 2011. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: Currently not authenticated. [02:21]
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chwergy Buying BTC for PPUSD [02:24]
chwergy ..the water is so cold [02:24]
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mcorlett He gave up. [02:26]
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raw_nector lol [02:26]
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raw_nector he was trying to buy bitcoin at lower than market rates, with ppusd. Dont think he would ever find anyone [02:27]
mcorlett ;;ticker --last [02:27]
gribble 5.2598 [02:27]
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Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak at a 5.6 rate [02:28]
subpar never done moneypak before [02:29]
subpar how much are you wanting to buy [02:30]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone? [02:30]
subpar ;;getrating [02:30]
raw_nector rate ? [02:30]
subpar ;;getrating Judgement51 [02:30]
splatster Could I get some advice from someone who has done a lot of lending? (I'm NOT looking for a loan, I'm need help on a loan I am giving) [02:31]
illu any1 btc4ukash ? [02:32]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [02:33]
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copumpkin rasengan: I'm not sure what to make of your article on the empty blocks :) I don't see how 51% + empty blocks is any more scary than 51% normally is [02:35]
copumpkin perhaps gmaxwell can comment on it more [02:35]
Cory Got a link, copumpkin? [02:35]
raw_nector spawn-. what is your rate ? [02:35]
copumpkin gmaxwell: [02:35]
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splatster Can't anyone out there give me some advice? [02:39]
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copumpkin splatster: just ask the question :) [02:39]
splatster copumpkin: I'd rather talk about it in private [02:40]
copumpkin alright, PM me I guess [02:40]
netxshare just tell him no [02:40]
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imsaguy lol [02:42]
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Cory This is the first I've heard of the 15% guy. So right now transactions are taking 15% longer to confirm than they would if every miner were legitimate? [02:44]
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spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone? [02:46]
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runlinux_ ;;guide [02:47]
Cusipzzz would be the benefit to all other miners. leaving the transaction-fee transactions on the table for the next block finder. but yeah, would be slower overall. [02:48]
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spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone? [02:51]
chwergy Thats what im doing [02:51]
Judgement51 anyone willing to sell coins for moneypak at a rate of 5.6 [02:52]
chwergy i notice a trend [02:53]
Cory Judgement51: I'm not interested, but it could help to tell us how much you want to buy. [02:53]
chwergy I think it's the time to buy [02:53]
Raccoon /ns info Raccoon [02:54]
chwergy yeah.. thats just gross [02:55]
mcorlett Really? [02:55]
chwergy you wanting to Sell any BTC raccoon? [02:55]
Raccoon double the value? [02:55]
chwergy no, 9.2 BTC for 50 PPUSD [02:56]
mcorlett chwergy: Would you sell at $5.6? [02:56]
Raccoon 9.090909 for $50? [02:57]
subpar I would sell at 5.6 -- need Dwolla though [02:59]
subpar or Amazon [02:59]
subpar or Chase [02:59]
spawn- ;;rate raw_nector 1 fast quick business PPUSD > BTC [03:00]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user raw_nector has been recorded. [03:00]
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raw_nector ;;rate spawn- 1 one of my first transactions. Good guy. [03:01]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user spawn- has been recorded. [03:01]
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Raccoon wonder why he left [03:02]
Judgement51 anyone willing to sell 63 coins for 355 moneypak [03:03]
spawn- Judgement51 i can do it :) [03:03]
spawn- but PPUSD :) [03:03]
Raccoon Btw, All of you guys should really register your nickname with nickserv. [03:04]
Raccoon people do look when gauging your ratings [03:04]
Cory Jeez. Six of the last eight days have broken record highs. It's hot out! [03:04]
neofutur +1 for registering nickname [03:04]
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Raccoon i propose setting the channel mode #bitcoin-otc +q ~a: [03:06]
neofutur I d vote for your proposal [03:07]
Raccoon i also propose everyone /ns info Raccoon :> [03:07]
nanotube a lot of noobs would have no idea why they can't talk. [03:07]
mcorlett (Don't.) [03:07]
imsaguy nanotube: same as when it was +m :p [03:07]
nanotube yes, which is why it is not +m :) +m is only for spam emergencies :) [03:08]
Raccoon nanotube: that's what +z is for [03:08]
smickles ;;ticker [03:09]
gribble Best bid: 5.21503, Best ask: 5.23046, Bid-ask spread: 0.01543, Last trade: 5.23047, 24 hour volume: 41711, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [03:10]
Raccoon the bot will see the unregistered user speak, and send them a /notice and /message [03:10]
g04 raccoon that's ssl iirc [03:10]
Raccoon not on this network. [03:10]
Raccoon /raw help cmode [03:10]
g04 oh wait that's +Z [03:11]
imsaguy +z allows people to talk that otherwise couldn't talk in +m [03:11]
g04 and yes on freenode... [03:11]
imsaguy only ops can see the +z trafic [03:11]
g04 +z == When +z is set, the effects of +b, +q, and +m are relaxed. For each message, if that message would normally be blocked by one of these modes, it is instead sent to all the users who are currently set +o (channel operator). This is intended for use in moderated debates. [03:11]
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Raccoon it's different for every ircd [03:11]
drossano ;;guide [03:11]
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g04 raccoon: yeah but does freenode not require one daemon in specific? [03:12]
g04 ie: bahamut on dalnet [03:12]
Raccoon freenode is ircd-seven [03:12]
Judgement51 anyone willing to sell 63 coins for 355 moneypak [03:12]
g04 so.... what you just said proves what i just said to be accurate then? lol [03:13]
Raccoon what is that? [03:13]
g04 nevermind [03:13]
neofutur (03:08) <+ Raccoon> the bot will see the unregistered user speak, and send them a /notice and /message [03:14]
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neofutur true [03:14]
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spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone? [03:14]
Raccoon neofutur: how'd you like to get paid to be my yes man? :) [03:14]
neofutur free for true things like this [03:15]
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abracadabra [03:21]
mcorlett abracadabra: Already been posted. [03:23]
imsaguy and it really doesn't reveal anything [03:23]
imsaguy its like reading one of s4928's predictions [03:23]
imsaguy all these 'could happens' [03:23]
imsaguy only he left one out [03:23]
imsaguy the 'nothing at all' [03:24]
neofutur this website dont even tell the date of the article [03:24]
Raccoon he left out that when i win the lotto, i'm secretly buying up 50% of the coin [03:24]
Dragonai ;;eauth Dragonai [03:24]
abracadabra url says march 2012 [03:24]
neofutur ah yes the date isin the url but not in the webpage [03:25]
Dragonai ;;voiceme [03:25]
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LordCanti ;;ticker [03:25]
gribble Best bid: 5.24987, Best ask: 5.26891, Bid-ask spread: 0.01904, Last trade: 5.24987, 24 hour volume: 41877, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [03:25]
smickles ;;ticker [03:26]
gribble Best bid: 5.24987, Best ask: 5.26891, Bid-ask spread: 0.01904, Last trade: 5.24987, 24 hour volume: 41877, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [03:26]
smickles woah, lag [03:26]
Dragonai Hey OTC [03:27]
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Dragonai I want to purchase something for a friend who's been feeling quite down lately, but my only means is Bitcoin right now. Problem is, I'm rather poor in BTC as well. Could I hook you guys up with my last album for free and request donations? [03:28]
Dragonai Feel free to download it here [03:29]
Dragonai [03:29]
Dragonai PM if you'd be willing to donate. Thanks in advance, you guys are great. [03:29]
Judgement51 anyone willing to sell 63 coins for 355 moneypak? [03:29]
Raccoon hmm. [03:30]
nanotube Dragonai: you could post a bitcoin donation addr on your site. :) [03:32]
Dragonai I could haha [03:32]
Dragonai I'll do that [03:32]
nanotube good times :) [03:32]
mcorlett At the very least, post it here; some people scan through the IRC logs after returning from work or sleep or whatever, and you may not be around by then. [03:32]
Dragonai Should be down at the bottom now [03:33]
Dragonai :) [03:33]
Dragonai Makes sense [03:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [03:33]
Dragonai Haha I'm still on 0.3.21 [03:33]
Dragonai Damn, I should update [03:33]
Raccoon Judgement51: when did you get the moneypak? [03:34]
Dragonai Would anyone like to sell me a Minecraft gift code? [03:38]
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Blazr dragonai: I have a minecraft account I never use, you interested in that? [03:44]
Dragonai Hmm, I'd prefer a code haha [03:45]
Dragonai It's a surprise gift for a friend [03:45]
Dragonai She's been feeling really down lately [03:45]
Dragonai I want to take her mind off some stuff [03:45]
Blazr Ahh I see. I can't help you there dude, sorry. [03:46]
Dragonai No worries man, thanks for the offer [03:46]
nanotube Dragonai: coding some cool project helps me stay cheerful. maybe it'll work for her. :D [03:47]
Dragonai Haha she's not a code girl. She's an artsy type [03:47]
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Dragonai she's Arsenious on dA [03:47]
terry Dragonai: surprise gift eh? [03:48]
Dragonai Yeah [03:48]
terry hitting the silky road are we [03:48]
Dragonai haha [03:48]
nanotube Dragonai: hehe ic [03:48]
terry oh we all see where this is going [03:48]
Dragonai Wait what? [03:48]
Dragonai I know what Silk Road is [03:48]
rasengan copumpkin: ah yeah not really any more scary, but this was just something that needed to be brought to light :o [03:49]
Dragonai But I clearly stated I'm buying a Minecraft gift code [03:49]
Dragonai (Dragonai): [03:49]
Dragonai Oops, damn script. [03:49]
Dragonai D: [03:49]
terry crap, i see that now [03:49]
Dragonai Anyway, if anyone could sell me a Minecraft gift code that'd be great. [03:49]
terry sorry [03:49]
Dragonai Haha no prob. [03:49]
imsaguy Dragonai: how much of a code do you need? [03:50]
Dragonai I'd be willing to throw in some of my music, [03:50]
imsaguy and how many btc you gonna throw at me to do it? [03:50]
Dragonai Haha I only have like 3 BTC and some change [03:50]
mcorlett Dragonai: I can do it at market, if they accept PayPal. [03:50]
Dragonai Probably not enough [03:50]
imsaguy thats like $15 [03:50]
Dragonai Yeah [03:50]
imsaguy how much is minecraft? [03:50]
mcorlett It's €19.95. [03:50]
Dragonai like $26 :< [03:50]
imsaguy oh [03:50]
Blazr €20 [03:50]
Dragonai :< [03:51]
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Dragonai Hmm [03:51]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone? [03:51]
Dragonai Okay this is kind of a stretch, but I'll update my offer [03:51]
imsaguy ;;getrating Dragonai [03:52]
gribble User Dragonai, created on Sat Jun 11 21:40:03 2011. Cumulative rating 5, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: Currently authenticated from hostmask Dragonai!~dragonai@unaffiliated/dragonai [03:52]
imsaguy Dragonai, are you a miner? [03:52]
Dragonai Nope, I only make BTC via trading [03:53]
imsaguy ah, ok [03:53]
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imsaguy you've been at it for a while [03:53]
Dragonai And that was a while back, I've made my music free since then :< [03:53]
Dragonai Yeah [03:53]
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Dragonai The reason I have so little BTC is because I tried to make it more than a good deal for people [03:53]
Dragonai Flat rate was always 0.2 BTC for a copy of my album [03:54]
Dragonai No matter what Bitcoin's value was [03:54]
Dragonai Then I dropped it to 0.1 [03:54]
Dragonai Then free a few months ago [03:54]
Dragonai Sigh. Okay, updated offer: I'd like to buy a Minecraft gift code, I can offer 3 BTC and some of my music along with anything in my TF2 inventory: [03:55]
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Sarajevo hey guys [03:59]
mcorlett Dragonai: I would be willing to extend you an interest-free short-term loan for the difference. [03:59]
Sarajevo send me fucken bitcoin here 18FzGkYNRDBWXWbnPQLTCRnNeC3zb26uBi [03:59]
Sarajevo thank you [03:59]
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terry Sarajevo: fuck off [03:59]
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Sarajevo you sendm e fucken bitcoin [03:59]
Sarajevo okay [03:59]
Sarajevo 1 btc [03:59]
Sarajevo ty [03:59]
Dragonai haha [03:59]
imsaguy ... [03:59]
terry Sarajevo: how about you piss off and you won't get my foot up your ass [03:59]
Sarajevo terry, i need 1 damn btc, whats ur prob man [04:00]
Dragonai mcorlett I'd prefer just a straight up purchase haha [04:00]
Sarajevo i want to play poker [04:00]
Blazr dont feed the trolls [04:00]
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terry Sarajevo: right now you are my problem; if you don't leave, my problem is going to become how to fit my nice big foot up your tiny ass [04:00]
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Sarajevo terry, u hot for my ass [04:01]
Sarajevo i can show ur my penny pic for 1 btc [04:01]
Dragonai ;;bc,diff [04:01]
gribble 1498294.3628165 [04:01]
copumpkin please [04:01]
Dragonai ;;bc,estimate [04:01]
gribble 1721028.97597122 [04:01]
copumpkin Sarajevo: act maturely [04:01]
Sarajevo okay [04:01]
Sarajevo np man [04:01]
Blazr thats the difficulty estimate? must sell GPU's [04:02]
imsaguy Blazr: what you got? [04:02]
Blazr 2x5830's [04:02]
imsaguy where are you located and how much you want for them? [04:02]
Blazr I'm not really too pushed to sell them, unless the difficulty increases that much [04:02]
imsaguy (please don't say europe) [04:02]
imsaguy oh, ok [04:03]
Blazr but anyways, yeah europe [04:03]
imsaguy dammit [04:03]
Blazr lol [04:03]
Dragonai hahaha [04:03]
rasengan Selling VPN service for Bitcoins - - Support the Bitcoin-OTC and be anonymous/encrypted. [04:03]
terry ready: classy [04:03]
terry rasengan* [04:03]
rasengan :) [04:03]
terry nanotube: have you signed off on this, or are they just donating at will? [04:03]
imsaguy rasengan: no bitpay? [04:04]
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rasengan imsaguy? [04:04]
imsaguy bitpay is a payment method [04:04]
imsaguy lets people pay iwth bitcoins [04:04]
luke-jr terry: they didn't say they donate [04:04]
imsaguy luke-jr: they did [04:05]
luke-jr o, on the site [04:05]
terry "A large portion of the proceeds will be donated to the Bitcoin-OTC to promote Bitcoins and decentralized free trade." [04:05]
rasengan imsaguy: If you buy with bitcoin, it's processed through bit-pay :) [04:05]
imsaguy 'a large portion of the proceeds is donated to -otc' [04:05]
Dr_Tobias_Funke ;;guide [04:05]
imsaguy I missed that bit [04:05]
imsaguy my bad [04:05]
terry luke-jr: kiss my feet [04:05]
* luke-jr slices off terry's toes [04:05]
nanotube terry: yes, privateinternetaccess is an official promotion. :) there's even an ad for them on the otc main page. [04:06]
terry i see [04:06]
terry rasengan: tell me more details [04:06]
terry how much does otc get? [04:06]
Dragonai ,,(echo herpyderp) [04:06]
gribble herpyderp [04:06]
Dragonai lol [04:06]
rasengan terry: Roughly 28% on monthly purchases and roughtly ~30% on yearly purchases (recurring on both) [04:07]
terry can i pay in bitcoins? [04:08]
rasengan terry: Yes sir :) [04:08]
terry it does not show under "OTHER PAYMENT OPTIONS " [04:08]
rasengan terry: Ah yes, it's under "Sign up" [04:09]
rasengan sorry for the confusion [04:09]
luke-jr terry: it's not an "other" [04:09]
terry rasengan: you need to handle no-javascript edgecases [04:10]
rasengan terry: thats true and will be noted, thanks :) [04:10]
terry the sign up button needs to link to a page, while you catch the event in jquery and prevent default [04:10]
terry (and display your popup or whatevs) [04:10]
rasengan That's a good idea [04:11]
Raccoon someone refresh me on how to apply moneypak to a physical card instead of paypal [04:14]
terry Raccoon: "physical card"? [04:15]
Raccoon yes. one from walmart for instance [04:15]
Raccoon a green dot [04:15]
terry oh [04:15]
terry i know how to do that [04:15]
Raccoon is it encouraged or discouraged [04:16]
terry i'll tell you if you remove the godawful goatse ascii from your ns info [04:16]
Raccoon :D [04:16]
Raccoon ok [04:16]
terry (permanently) [04:16]
* Raccoon lip quivvers [04:16]
Raccoon for evah? [04:16]
terry yes [04:17]
loktigon oll [04:17]
Dragonai Once more in hopes that someone can help me out [04:18]
Dragonai I'd like to buy a Minecraft gift code, PM if interested! I'll brb. [04:18]
Mad7Scientist Anyone want to buy some coins from me for PayPal USD? [04:19]
Raccoon how's that [04:19]
Mad7Scientist $5.45 [04:19]
terry good enough [04:19]
terry [04:19]
Raccoon /magic 24 250 /ns set property $base(%i,10,10,2) [04:19]
Raccoon lol, you're going to send me to a link!? [04:19]
terry ya bro [04:20]
Raccoon i feel dirty [04:20]
terry unless you want to tell me the card number... [04:20]
terry i have no objections [04:20]
Raccoon i want to know if I have to buy a card first, initially, before loading it with a hand-written number [04:21]
Raccoon or do i just take one off the shelf and go on my merry way? [04:21]
Mad7Scientist nobody is buying? [04:22]
terry Raccoon: i'm in fucking sweden - no idea [04:22]
* gribble gives voice to ageis [04:22]
Raccoon just for that, goatse goes back! [04:23]
terry we had an agreemeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [04:23]
Raccoon IN COLOR [04:23]
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Raccoon lol [04:24]
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terry i would never leave you [04:24]
Raccoon with extra goat [04:24]
Mad7Scientist goatse santorum [04:24]
Raccoon hey, not a bad idea [04:24]
Raccoon someone refresh me on how to apply moneypak to a physical card instead of paypal [04:25]
terry just stash it in your wallet [04:25]
terry in the store [04:25]
terry if they fuss about, just cite the fourth amendment [04:26]
Raccoon but would it have to be initially activated at the register [04:26]
Raccoon or can it be loaded first-time via web [04:26]
terry excellent question [04:27]
Raccoon cuz that means having to buy a loaded card for minimum $23 [04:27]
Raccoon getting $20 on it [04:27]
MBS do you need an anonymous card? [04:28]
MBS if not you could just get the paypal debit, lol [04:28]
MBS well actually think you need a bank account attached to do that [04:28]
Raccoon i already have a paypal, but i don't want paypal handling my money. [04:29]
MBS Raccoon, if you dont need visa/mastercard, could get a AMEX prepaid [04:29]
MBS takes moneypak and no fees [04:29]
MBS a few places dont take amex but [04:29]
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Raccoon where are the cards available? [04:29]
MBS online [04:30]
MBS [04:30]
MBS only thing is that it takes like a week to come in, but w/e [04:31]
Raccoon ah [04:31]
Raccoon i guess i'll first experiment if i have to buy a green dot card, or if they can be activated online for free [04:31]
MBS try and find one with no monthly fee at least though [04:31]
MBS think the walmart ones dont have any [04:32]
MBS but yeah, dont think it will let you activate an empty green dot card online [04:32]
MBS Raccoon, though i think you can maybe order an empty walmart moneycard [04:32]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [04:33]
MBS [04:33]
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MBS you could order walmart and amex ones and see which comes faster, lol [04:33]
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raw_nector question, if send a certain number of unlabled PayPal "Gifts" to people (in order to trade for bitcoin), do you think that will be a red flag for paypal to possibly lock my account ? [04:35]
MBS oh wait walmart one does have $3/m service fee though (unless you load >$1000 in a month) [04:35]
MBS raw_nector, yes [04:35]
raw_nector what would be the max number of transactions you would recommend I not exceed throught a day ? [04:35]
MBS how many, i cant say, depends on your account age and what percentage of transactions are gifts [04:35]
MBS personally i wouldnt do more than 10 a month [04:35]
MBS stopped after noticed something about "Your paypal account has been reactivated" or something while logging in one day [04:36]
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neofutur seems true account age and gift percentage count [04:36]
MBS guessing they disabled my account, then reactivated it after checking it out [04:36]
Raccoon I've had my PayPal since 1998 [04:36]
raw_nector okay I will go slow then. I have made 2 so far. [04:36]
Raccoon even still [04:36]
neofutur hehe same here, its nearly 10 years old, should help [04:37]
MBS paypal has gotten a decent bit of profit from me, so sure they wouldnt kill my account so easily but [04:37]
MBS also sure it helps if you use paypal debit card and stuff alot too [04:37]
imsaguy don't gift more than a couple k a month on paypal and you'll be fine [04:37]
MBS though i dont any more, so thats more reason why i stopped (got some new credit cards so use those now, was using paypal debit card since it still has 1% cashback while most banks now dont have any) [04:38]
Raccoon i've been through enough paypal crisis from ebay suspnding everyone's accounts for making too much money [04:38]
MBS well its not just $ amount, also transaction amount [04:38]
MBS 2x $1500 gifts would be alot less suspicous than 30x $100 gifts [04:38]
Raccoon lol. [04:39]
Raccoon they probably wouldn't say anything [04:39]
MBS fark yar, amex credits came in [04:39]
raw_nector I wish there were other main stream supported alternatives to paypal.. [04:39]
Raccoon just debug you over to the bank secrecy act department [04:39]
MBS well at least the $70 [04:39]
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MBS will call later this week about the other $20, see if it at least is showing on my account [04:39]
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Raccoon ask Dwolla when they'll start accepting moneypak [04:40]
MBS anyone want to buy a $20 lowes, $10 best buy code, or a hollywood movie money voucher [04:40]
Raccoon MBS: eew :) [04:40]
MBS or prereserve a $100 ticketmaster gift card? [04:41]
MBS eww? [04:41]
BicycleHead I have amazon gift cards lol [04:41]
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Raccoon at least one can buy stuff from amazon :) [04:41]
Raccoon not sure what i'd do at bestbuy. [04:41]
BicycleHead haa exactly! ;) [04:41]
Raccoon spend $200 on a $50 item [04:41]
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MBS well i got it for free (at least now that statement credit is in) [04:42]
MBS probably going to sell ticketmaster code on plasticjungle though [04:42]
MBS plasticjungle has min of $25 though, so if i cant sell lowes and best buy here, will eventually put on ebay [04:42]
Raccoon anyway, bbl. i'm heading to wallyworld. [04:42]
Raccoon give it to some chick for a quickie [04:43]
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MBS Raccoon, what kind of low grade hookers do you go to that take lowes and best buy gift cards? [04:44]
MBS cuz i would like their numbers [04:44]
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mircea_popescu [04:46]
mircea_popescu better off this way, could have been "after-paternity-test" [04:46]
Dragonai Anyone want to buy anything from my TF2 inventory? [04:46]
terry is there a way to erase your memory so that you can rewatch a movie and get the same feeling of excitement [04:53]
Mad7Scientist that would be potentially dangerous [04:53]
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Dragonai lol [04:54]
neofutur terry: just wait 20 years and watch it again ;) [04:55]
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imsaguy terry: yes, do some acid [04:55]
rawrmage lol [04:56]
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MBS oh god [04:57]
copumpkin there's worse out there [04:57]
rawrmage is that sfw [04:57]
Dragonai It is [04:57]
Dragonai Uvula, not vulva [04:57]
Rothgar [04:57]
copumpkin check out bmevideo or bmezine if you want to see some really crazy things people do to their bodies [04:57]
copumpkin I don't really mind seeing it as long as it's consensual [04:58]
terry at least she had nice teeth [04:58]
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MBS copumpkin, oh i know [05:01]
MBS just saying that peircing has to feel annoying as hell [05:01]
Cory How long has been at it? [05:03]
imsaguy who knows? [05:03]
imsaguy people only just now discovered it [05:03]
imsaguy for all we know, the guy might change ips every couple of months [05:04]
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Cory That IP in particular, I mean. [05:05]
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copumpkin that IP isn't necessarily the guy producing the blocks [05:05]
copumpkin it's just whoever relays them [05:05]
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imsaguy yes, but if the same guy is always relaying first.. [05:06]
imsaguy you can start to draw conclusions [05:06]
imsaguy it could very well be a dark pool [05:07]
Cory Oh yeah, there was a SolidCoin thing. Though I don't think they could have that much power. [05:07]
Perlboy chasing 20BTC, will pay via Paypal but I'm not verified/rated, chasing this BTC for sponsorship of Bitcoin Conference2012 [05:07]
imsaguy not 15% [05:07]
imsaguy What is Bitcoin Conference 2012? [05:07]
Perlboy let me dig a link [05:08]
Perlboy;all [05:08]
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Perlboy anyway, i'm chasing 20 BTC, will pay market rate + say 10% for the hassle. [05:09]
copumpkin Perlboy: if you're in the US, you might as well get a moneypak [05:09]
Perlboy copumpkin: i'm in Aus :) [05:10]
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copumpkin boo [05:10]
mircea_popescu hiss [05:10]
Perlboy yeah I know [05:11]
mircea_popescu seems forum is down [05:11]
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Perlboy mircea: [05:11]
Perlboy workin for me... [05:11]
copumpkin worked for me up until mircea_popescu jinxed it just now [05:11]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: damn you! [05:11]
copumpkin there we go [05:11]
Perlboy and yeah, unfortunately since I'm in Aus funding options are rather limited without waiting for some stupid bank to charge me transfer fees while forcing me to wait days... [05:11]
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copumpkin Perlboy: another option that sometimes works around here is to buy people amazon gift cards [05:12]
Dragonai One more attempt: Can anyone sell me a Minecraft gift code? Surprise gift for a friend who's not feeling too great but BTC is all I can pay with at the moment. [05:12]
Perlboy copumpkin: I'd be happy to do that as well. [05:14]
raw_nector how many BTC ? [05:14]
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raw_nector Dragonai, How many BTC ? [05:14]
Dragonai Honestly, even in BTC I'm poor. I can offer 3 BTC, any and all of my music, and anything in my TF2 inventory. [05:14]
Dragonai Sounds desperate because that's what I am at the moment. :P [05:15]
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Perlboy dragonai: where do I buy a gift card? [05:16]
Dragonai With BTC [05:16]
Dragonai ?* [05:16]
Dragonai I'm not quite sure mate [05:16]
Perlboy no, a minecraft gift code [05:17]
Perlboy where do i buy that with a CC [05:17]
james777 anyone here selling btc for ukash and has good ratings? [05:17]
Perlboy i'll buy that and then we trade for 3 BTC :) [05:17]
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Cory [05:18]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc [14:23]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || || || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: || Bitcoin VPS: || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe [14:23]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Sun Feb 26 06:26:07 2012 [14:23]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [14:33]
pigeons cheebydi: they've been working for months, occaisionally have issues they always fix, past performance is no guarantee of future results ;) [14:33]
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luke-jr cheebydi: definitely not. [15:12]
luke-jr cheebydi: they begin trading scamcoins on day 1, and banned my account apparently for having too much trading activity [15:13]
luke-jr stealing my funds [15:13]
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spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD or Amazon Giftcard [15:16]
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mircea_popescu who's that luke-jr ? [15:19]
imsaguy btc-e [15:19]
mcorlett Perlboy: Did you receive the funds? [15:20]
mircea_popescu o. never heard of em. [15:20]
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imsaguy they stole a bunch of them from me because they decided one day they weren't going to trade certain scam coins anymore because they were worthless. The thing is, they weren't so worthless that they returned them, instead btc-e retained them all. [15:20]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Raccoon wants you to get a cloak. [15:21]
mircea_popescu why ? [15:22]
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vragnaroda Because he's an idiot. [15:22]
mircea_popescu im al for ipnudity. [15:22]
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vragnaroda He PMed everyone in-channel last night that wasn't cloaked and told them to register with nickserv and ask in #freenode for a cloak. [15:23]
terry dumbass [15:24]
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mircea_popescu i wasn't in lol [15:25]
mircea_popescu so i didn't get the pm, but tyvm for the forward :D [15:25]
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mircea_popescu imsaguy that's such bs. "o, it's worthless, we'll keeop them" [15:26]
vragnaroda Well, there was a bit of drama and the other ops that were up were kicking each other over their argument. [15:26]
vragnaroda lol [15:26]
imsaguy mircea_popescu: they were almost worthless [15:26]
mircea_popescu ahaha [15:27]
imsaguy but its the idea [15:27]
mircea_popescu ikr? [15:27]
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luke-jr mircea_popescu: in my case, they claimed I was "spamming" them with deposits, and froze my account (keeping all my funds) [15:27]
mircea_popescu wait, other ops in otc ? coin and onefixt kicking each other ? [15:27]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD or Amazon Giftcard [15:27]
mircea_popescu this sounds like a very solid 13 yo run op. [15:27]
luke-jr lol [15:27]
imsaguy pretty much [15:27]
luke-jr wouldn't surprise me [15:27]
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imsaguy danieldaniel is probably the secret owner [15:28]
mircea_popescu i was gonna say 17yo but zhou kid totally ripped that, for shame ;/ [15:28]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [15:33]
Bigpiggy01Mining anybody want to register a domain on godaddy 4 btc ? [15:36]
mcorlett Bigpiggy01Mining: For how much, and does it have to be GoDaddy? [15:36]
mircea_popescu aren't domains like $9 ? [15:36]
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imsaguy not the first year [15:37]
Bigpiggy01Mining they're the cheapest at and I'd split the price difference between them and domain4bitcoins [15:37]
Bigpiggy01Mining say 3 btc [15:38]
Bigpiggy01Mining got a discont code for there as well [15:38]
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Bigpiggy01Mining .me domain [15:40]
Bigpiggy01Mining :) [15:40]
mcorlett I can do it for 3 BTC, on Namecheap. [15:40]
Coolio- sup bigpiggy [15:40]
mcorlett (You won't have to support SOPA.) [15:41]
g04 why people with a technical background even use godaddy is beyond me [15:42]
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Bigpiggy01Mining thanks m8 [15:42]
Bigpiggy01Mining cheap [15:42]
g04 there are cheaper [15:43]
g04 hell even network solutions is offering for 2.95 right now [15:44]
Bigpiggy01Mining HUH wow [15:44]
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Bigpiggy01Mining Coolio- when is you next batch of btc for cny due ? [15:44]
g04 yeah i know :) [15:45]
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coingenuity coingen [15:48]
Bigpiggy01Mining ;;rate mcorlett 1 superfast domain for btc brilliant [15:53]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mcorlett has been recorded. [15:53]
Coolio- bigpiggy: not sure yet [15:53]
Bigpiggy01Mining Aaaaw [15:53]
Coolio- i need one to india in 1.5 weeks [15:53]
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pigeons oh I was gonna ask about Raccoon's PM suggesting a cloak. His message starts with "(authorized)" and says "#bitcoin-otc encourages" so I thought it was a new official stance [15:56]
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vragnaroda pigeons: No, just him being an ass. The GPG thing was put in place because staff complained about so many people asking for cloaks. [15:57]
pigeons thanks [15:57]
occulta ;;ticker [15:58]
mcorlett ;;rate Bigpiggy01Mining 1 Pleasure doing business with this man! [15:59]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Bigpiggy01Mining has been recorded. [15:59]
mircea_popescu mcorlett the things you derive pleasure from... [15:59]
BTCHero1 @silver [15:59]
mcorlett lol [15:59]
Bigpiggy01Mining ;;action thumps mircea_popescu with a turnip [16:00]
* gribble thumps mircea_popescu with a turnip [16:00]
Bigpiggy01Mining ;;pet [16:00]
gribble *purrrrrrrr* [16:00]
mircea_popescu a... turnip ?! [16:01]
mircea_popescu jesus, get out of the sticks boys. [16:01]
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senttipentti Any Finns here who would like to sell 10-20bc? [16:23]
mircea_popescu anyone have handy a link to stallman's proposal to distribute ip revenue logarithmically ? [16:24]
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bnmorgan woohoo first rating thingy. [16:29]
kinksbbx anybody here selling btc for ukash? [16:30]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [16:33]
mircea_popescu [16:38]
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bnmorgan that made my brain hurt [16:40]
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mircea_popescu lol why ? [16:44]
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kinksbbx ukash anybody? [16:52]
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NASDAQEnema i have half a mind to start pricing stuff in ltc without regard to btc prices [16:59]
NASDAQEnema seems like a ton of bitcoin just sits on the exchanges doing no work [17:00]
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franka !quote [17:01]
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franka ;;guide [17:02]
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bnmorgan don't even know where to find ltc prices anymore [17:24]
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bitcoinTrader hi [17:30]
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bnmorgan lo [17:31]
bitcoinTrader selling btc [17:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [17:33]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen ocminer [17:34]
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mircea_popescu NASDAQEnema you know seinfeld's crack about his money taking it easy ? [17:39]
NASDAQEnema no [17:40]
mircea_popescu lemme find. [17:41]
mircea_popescu JERRY: I’m not an investor. People always tell me, you should have your money working for you. I’ve decided I’ll do the work. I’m gonna let the money relax. You know what I mean? ‘Cause you send your money out there – working for you – a lot of times, it gets fired. You go back there, “What happened? I had my money. It was here, it was working for me.” “Yeah, I remember your money. Showing up late. Taking time off. We had to l [17:42]
mircea_popescu et him go.” [17:42]
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IcePee Hello [17:48]
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IcePee I believe that I've hit a bug with Gribble [17:48]
bitcoinTrader icepee? [17:48]
mircea_popescu what bug is that ? [17:48]
IcePee ;;bc,btcgbp [17:48]
IcePee doesn't work. [17:49]
IcePee ;;help ;bc,btcgbp [17:50]
IcePee ;;help bc,btcgbp [17:50]
gribble (bc,btcgbp ) -- Alias for "echo 1 BTC = [calc [bc,mtgoxlast] usd in gbp]". [17:50]
IcePee I keep getting: "Error: invalid syntax (, line 1)" [17:51]
IcePee anyone else getting that? [17:52]
coingenuity IcePee: ,,google calc [ticker --last] usd to gbp [17:52]
coingenuity oh, not identified anymore [17:52]
coingenuity there's alternate functions in gribble that will do it, not quire sure why bcbtcgbp is not working though [17:53]
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IcePee thanks [17:53]
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coingenuity IcePee: ;;google calc [ticker --last] usd to gbp works in a private message [17:55]
IcePee coingenuity, can you use it in a orderbook listing? [17:56]
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coingenuity there's a special syntax for that, i don't think so IcePee :/ [17:57]
mcorlett ;;view [17:57]
gribble #7102 Wed Mar 7 05:39:38 2012 mcorlett SELL 50.0 BTC @ 4.4034 PPEUR (None) [17:57]
coingenuity i may bew wrong though [17:57]
coingenuity be* [17:57]
mcorlett coingenuity is correct. Here is my order in orderbook-speak: (({mtgoxask} + {mtgoxbid}) / 2) * {usd in eur} * 1.1 [17:58]
IcePee I've tried various things. [17:58]
IcePee how about reversing that. [17:59]
nanotube IcePee: try "bc,convert gbp" [17:59]
nanotube as a command. [17:59]
IcePee in the orderbook, converting gbp to btc [17:59]
nanotube for order book listings, see the 'advanced features' section in the ,,guide [17:59]
gribble Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: [17:59]
mcorlett [18:00]
IcePee I saw that. [18:00]
nanotube well, that's all you need then :) [18:00]
IcePee is there a way to dry run these calculations. [18:01]
nanotube create an order, and see how it looks. :P [18:01]
IcePee to prevent overloading the channel/webpage [18:01]
nanotube do it in pm [18:01]
mcorlett It won't work if the syntax is incorrect, if is, you can just ;;remove the order. [18:01]
nanotube you can always remove orders after [18:02]
nanotube yea [18:02]
coingenuity :) you guys rock lmao thanks mcorlett [18:02]
IcePee I've been doing that [18:02]
nanotube IcePee: ok, why don't you tell us what price you want on your order :) [18:02]
nanotube and maybe we can figure out a syntax for you [18:02]
nanotube (and don't forget you need quotes around the price expression) [18:02]
IcePee 2 GBP in BTC [18:03]
IcePee for example [18:04]
nanotube ... you mean, you want to buy btc at 2gbp each? [18:04]
nanotube then you can just use "2" as your price :) [18:04]
mcorlett Intersango is currently trading at ~3.4199 GBP each. [18:04]
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rawrmage i think he means buy 2 gbp worth of BTC at market? [18:05]
IcePee yes [18:05]
mcorlett ;;calc 2/3.42 [18:06]
gribble 0.584795321637 [18:06]
IcePee computer is playing up. [18:06]
nanotube ah, then probably ;;sell 2 gbp at "{mtgoxlast}*{usd in gbp}" btc :) [18:06]
nanotube you can't have a calculated amount of btc... only price can be calculated. [18:06]
mcorlett nanotube: Shouldn't you specify each for the price, or multiply it by two? [18:06]
imsaguy submit a patch! [18:06]
nanotube mcorlett: price is always per unit, as per "help buy" etc :) [18:07]
mcorlett I see. [18:07]
nanotube unless notes state otherwise. :) you can always use notes to override defaults/provide more info [18:07]
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IcePee nanotube, I want to sell something for 2 gpb worth of BTC [18:09]
IcePee to go up or down with the market. [18:09]
bitcoinTrader nanotube: got LR ? [18:09]
mcorlett What are you selling? [18:09]
nanotube bitcoinTrader: not atm. :P [18:09]
bitcoinTrader :( [18:09]
nanotube IcePee: aha i see. :) in that case... [18:09]
bitcoinTrader nanotube: I thot u had buncha LR in ur vault ;) [18:10]
IcePee some unwanted steam keys [18:10]
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nanotube IcePee: ;;sell 1 something at "2/{mtgoxlast}/{usd in gbp} btc [18:10]
IcePee nanotube, let me try [18:10]
mcorlett ;;sell 1 thing at "({mtgoxlast} * {usd in gbp}) * 2" BTC [18:11]
gribble Order id 7278 created. [18:11]
mcorlett ;;view [18:11]
gribble #7102 Wed Mar 7 05:39:38 2012 mcorlett SELL 50.0 BTC @ 4.385 PPEUR (None) || #7278 Sun Mar 18 09:11:06 2012 mcorlett SELL 1.0 thing @ 6.6351 BTC (None) [18:11]
mcorlett ;;remove 7278 [18:11]
gribble Order 7278 removed. [18:11]
nanotube mcorlett: you gotta divide not multiply :) [18:12]
nanotube divide 2gbp over the price of coin in gbp [18:13]
nanotube bitcoinTrader: working on it :) [18:13]
bitcoinTrader really? [18:13]
nanotube bitcoinTrader: yes really. :) [18:13]
nanotube i'll let you know when i have some [18:13]
bitcoinTrader big contacts :) [18:14]
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IcePee this doesn't seem right: ,,view 7279 [18:15]
gribble #7208 Sat Mar 17 07:56:24 2012 IcePee BUY 1.0 BTC @ 5.2486 WMZ ( || #7279 Sun Mar 18 09:13:25 2012 IcePee SELL 1.0 test @ 0.60357 BTC (This is just a test please disregard) [18:15]
mcorlett Looks good. [18:15]
mcorlett ;;calc 2/3.42 [18:16]
gribble 0.584795321637 [18:16]
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chsados gribbles testing a new emoney system? [18:17]
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splatster We should convince to accept bitcoin through bitpay or mt gox merchant services. The dude who made it wrote an article about his troubles with CC processors: [18:26]
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mcorlett splatster: See the comment at the bottom of the Street Fight Mag article. [18:31]
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arij any onehave LR [18:31]
splatster mcorlett: I know. [18:31]
splatster ;;getrating arij [18:32]
gribble User arij, created on Thu Mar 1 13:22:09 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: Currently not authenticated. [18:32]
splatster :/ [18:32]
arij what [18:32]
arij i should have 2 [18:32]
mcorlett arij: nanotube might have some soon(ish). [18:32]
arij :( [18:32]
splatster abracadabra: Enough with the connection spam! LOLJK [18:32]
arij well ill send first [18:32]
arij if any one has [18:32]
arij and ill auth :D [18:32]
arij is there an easy way to get LR [18:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [18:33]
arij ive been tryin to get some foreer [18:33]
arij forever [18:33]
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mcorlett AurumXchange? [18:33]
bitcoinTrader arij : lol [18:34]
arij am i the only one with that problem [18:34]
arij that cant find out how to get lr haha [18:34]
mcorlett Aurum does MtGox codes to LR at 0.98. [18:34]
arij .98 btc [18:34]
arij ?? [18:34]
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mcorlett ... [18:34]
arij nvm [18:34]
splatster Who here has put a listing on GLBSE? I need a bit of advice (in PM). [18:34]
arij cc to lr ? [18:35]
arij any one know where i can do that [18:35]
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mcorlett You can't. [18:35]
arij oh [18:35]
mcorlett You shouldn't be able to, anyway. [18:35]
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bitcoinTrader mcorlett: 0.9350 [18:36]
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mcorlett Whoops, I must've been looking at the wrong thing. [18:38]
mcorlett It used to be lower, though. I'm sure of that. [18:38]
coingenuity people seem to have no issues with LR? [18:39]
coingenuity i thought they were based somewhere in south america, surprising they've been so reliable :D color me pleased, i spose [18:39]
arij u got some? [18:40]
coingenuity arij: never messed with it, nope [18:40]
terrytibbs coingenuity: they're based in costa rica [18:40]
coingenuity ah, thats right [18:40]
IcePee I've created a listing and it looks OK on the IRC, but the calculation shows on the orderbook webpage. [18:40]
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mcorlett IcePee: It's supposed to be that way. [18:41]
mcorlett What's the order id? [18:41]
IcePee Oh? [18:41]
mcorlett ;;view 7285 [18:41]
gribble #7285 Sun Mar 18 09:37:14 2012 IcePee SELL 1.0 Steam_Game @ 0.60357 BTC (Halflife 2: Episode One) [18:41]
IcePee that's the one [18:41]
mcorlett The price should display on the website, hmm... [18:42]
IcePee I just get the formula [18:42]
mcorlett ;;sell 1 thing at "2 / {mtgoxlast} / {usd in gbp}" btc [18:43]
gribble Order id 7286 created. [18:43]
mcorlett ;;remove 7286 [18:43]
gribble Order 7286 removed. [18:43]
mcorlett ;;sell 1 thing at "2 / ({mtgoxlast} / {usd in gbp})" btc [18:43]
gribble Order id 7287 created. [18:43]
mcorlett ;;remove 7287 [18:43]
gribble Order 7287 removed. [18:43]
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mcorlett Looks like a bug in the site code itself. (cc: nanotube) [18:44]
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IcePee I thought that I had found a bug. [18:45]
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nanotube mcorlett: it displays raw if either google or gox times out getting the quote. [19:02]
arij nanotube some one said earlier that you might have some LR for sale? [19:03]
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Someguy123 fuck me... windows is a PITA with custom themes [19:06]
danieldaniel Someguy123: ik [19:07]
Someguy123 danieldaniel i had to log out and back in again to get my old explorer back [19:07]
danieldaniel lol [19:07]
Someguy123 because when I started it normally, it decided it would give EVERYTHING admin [19:07]
danieldaniel XD [19:08]
Someguy123 fuck no am I going to let it do that [19:08]
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Someguy123 =-= [19:08]
nanotube arij: all out at the moment. [19:08]
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mircea_popescu ugh [19:10]
mircea_popescu what the hell are you running Someguy123 ? [19:10]
Someguy123 mircea_popescu wat? [19:10]
rg mary poppins! [19:10]
mircea_popescu it decided it would give EVERYTHING admin [19:10]
IcePee Just looked at the orderbook [19:10]
rg my favorite rolamian [19:10]
Someguy123 mircea_popescu well I ran explorer.exe [19:10]
mircea_popescu o and it makes all its children same [19:10]
IcePee it looks like my listing is now properly displayed. [19:10]
mircea_popescu fascinating. [19:10]
Someguy123 explorer.exe does not like being ran from another process that has admin [19:11]
Someguy123 because it ends up disabling UAC essentially [19:11]
mircea_popescu what's this, past XP ? [19:11]
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coingenuity xp does not have uac mircea_popescu [19:13]
mircea_popescu is what i meant [19:13]
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mircea_popescu xp is where i lost track of ms and i don't recall uac [19:14]
coingenuity ya, uac shit started in vista forward [19:14]
mircea_popescu had to google it, came up as uni admission centre, an entire lol :) [19:14]
coingenuity how many hijacked computers with UAC locking out antivirus i've had to save, do not even know [19:14]
mircea_popescu lmao [19:14]
mircea_popescu windows implements features of linux cca 1980 [19:14]
mircea_popescu DO THEM ALL WRONG!!1 [19:15]
coingenuity and poorly [19:15]
coingenuity lol [19:15]
mircea_popescu yeh exactly [19:15]
coingenuity i.e. winishell vs linux [19:15]
coingenuity just ridic [19:15]
mircea_popescu men bash and women wash ? :D [19:15]
coingenuity lol [19:15]
raw_nector lol [19:15]
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coingenuity i do wonder what is gonna happen to windows in the next few years [19:16]
mircea_popescu i imagine it merges with apple into one huge conglomerate of evil. [19:16]
coingenuity LOL [19:16]
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coingenuity if anything could make win worse it would be a mac ui [19:17]
mircea_popescu and vice-versa. [19:17]
rg you gotta pay teh troll toll [19:17]
rg to get into this boys hole [19:17]
raw_nector they lock windows down further and further [19:17]
raw_nector to make it more macish [19:17]
coingenuity its true raw_nector [19:17]
mircea_popescu ikr? [19:17]
coingenuity last time i messed with a win8 box the UI did the same thing as mac- confused me [19:17]
rg windows cant be locked down [19:17]
coingenuity win7* [19:17]
mircea_popescu they're getting ready to move to blinds 1.0 i hear. [19:18]
mircea_popescu blinds 1.0 = windows 10 [19:18]
rg sweet jesus [19:18]
rg the online ordering to this resturant is down [19:19]
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raw_nector Stick with Linux. Where you don't have a super-critical RDP use-after free exploit that will propagate like the next code-red worm in the next view weeks. [19:19]
raw_nector Just sayin [19:19]
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raw_nector MS12-020 [19:19]
rg you mean Blaster [19:19]
rg not code red [19:19]
david-alexander if your security is only protected via a Window .. is it surprising it gets shattered? [19:19]
raw_nector any example of a worm [19:20]
rg blaster was worse than code red [19:20]
raw_nector blaster, code-red, nimda, etc [19:20]
mircea_popescu System Tip [19:21]
mircea_popescu This article applies to a different operating system than the one you are using. Article content that may not be relevant to you is disabled. [19:21]
mircea_popescu these people should be in jail. [19:21]
mircea_popescu seriously. in any functioning society, these people would be cutting salt under the utah sun [19:22]
danieldaniel lol [19:22]
rg daniel [19:22]
rg got money on your cc? [19:22]
danieldaniel rg: no :( [19:23]
danieldaniel I spent it all yesterday [19:23]
rg WHY DO i even keep you around [19:23]
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danieldaniel 0.0 [19:23]
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rg fatty needs to feed [19:24]
rg who wants to order fatty food [19:24]
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rg ;;calc 14.97 .15 [19:28]
rg ;;calc 14.97 * .15 [19:28]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [19:33]
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bitcoinTrader hi [19:44]
IcePee hello bitcoinTrader [19:45]
bitcoinTrader quite here [19:47]
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raw_nector yes it is [19:48]
tricetricetrice hello people [19:48]
tricetricetrice I am new to bitcoin-otc [19:48]
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tricetricetrice here's my question [19:49]
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tricetricetrice I have several moneypaks [19:49]
tricetricetrice can I just give the registration number [19:49]
tricetricetrice or will any potential trading partners demand photos of receipts/the card [19:49]
tricetricetrice assuming that I send my info first [19:50]
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Graet that would depend on the trading partner you find... i mean different ppl... [19:50]
tricetricetrice okay, fair enough [19:51]
Graet :) [19:51]
tricetricetrice what's the risk to the trading partner if I'm sending my info first? [19:51]
tricetricetrice seems like I'm the only one who could get screwed [19:51]
tricetricetrice why do they need photos? [19:51]
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bitcoinTrader tricetricetrice: chargebacks [19:52]
Graet dont know, amybe to verify it exists, I cant do moneypak in my country never really bothered to take much notice :) [19:52]
tricetricetrice is that possible with moneypak? [19:52]
tricetricetrice chargebacks? [19:52]
bitcoinTrader yes [19:52]
nanotube if it is claimed stolen yes [19:52]
tricetricetrice so, how does my sending the photo of the receipt/card protect against that? [19:52]
nanotube providing receipt generally is acceptable proof that it is not stolen [19:53]
Blazr there is a scam going around [19:53]
tricetricetrice okay, okay [19:53]
nanotube acceptable to moneypak [19:53]
tricetricetrice got it [19:53]
Blazr where people somehow got moneypaks without paying for them [19:53]
tricetricetrice protecting you against my having stolen it from a store or something [19:53]
tricetricetrice gotcha [19:53]
tricetricetrice okay [19:53]
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raw_nector ;;remove 7224 [19:57]
gribble Order 7224 removed. [19:57]
raw_nector ;;remove 7264 [19:57]
gribble Order 7264 removed. [19:57]
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raw_nector ;;ticker [19:59]
gribble Best bid: 5.24, Best ask: 5.273, Bid-ask spread: 0.033, Last trade: 5.27388, 24 hour volume: 39796, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.37998 [19:59]
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tricetricetrice has anyone here used instawallet before? [20:00]
tricetricetrice is it safe to use? [20:00]
dsmouse the website? [20:01]
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Blazr my personal opinion is dont use it [20:01]
Blazr too many online wallets have shutdown [20:01]
dsmouse I've used it, but for like 10 minutes [20:02]
Blazr just install a bitcoin client and encrypt your wallet files [20:02]
arij who was that guy that was renting the botnet [20:02]
raw_nector It is useful for helping gain anonymity with bitcoin [20:02]
Blazr bitcoin is already very anonymous [20:03]
raw_nector transfering to an e-wallet then to somewhere else will help cut tracking if someone is trying to trace your bitcoin usage [20:03]
raw_nector ^ not to the sense where anyone can track how certain coins are used [20:03]
Blazr why not just transfer it between your own wallets [20:03]
Blazr or use a washing service [20:03]
Graet route it thru a public node 1st - does the same ;) [20:03]
mircea_popescu so, slavegirl, has seen nothing in her entire life other than windows. [20:03]
raw_nector because that can be traced back to the original wallet [20:03]
Blazr route your client through tor if your super paranoid [20:03]
Blazr how? [20:03]
mircea_popescu moved to living in my harem, got ubuntu on her laptop, like 6 months ago [20:04]
raw_nector IPs have nothing to do with that [20:04]
mircea_popescu now had to go to windows for a minute. "im so intolerant of this os, switching back" [20:04]
Blazr well yes IP is sort of related, you can view the first IPs that relayed a transaction [20:04]
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Blazr look at all transactions for that address and you may find one in common [20:05]
gheorghe mircea_popescu, BRAINWASHING! [20:05]
mircea_popescu apparently. [20:05]
raw_nector Blazr, the point is, coins can be tracked from wallet, to wallet. Some ewallets will take the coins you store in them, and if you withdraw them, might give you different coins which looses the tracing since they came from elswhere. [20:05]
Blazr ahh, I see what your saying [20:05]
raw_nector [20:06]
raw_nector great read [20:06]
Blazr thats what a washing service does as well, that is a good idea, never thought of using an ewallet as a free washing service [20:06]
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raw_nector yes. I usually use 2 different ewallets for paranoid level privacy [20:06]
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mcorlett "In 1991 a survey asked two thousand U.S. citizens, "What are you willing to do for $10 million?" Twenty-five percent of this very classy group said they'd abandon their families; 23 percent said they'd become a prostitute for a week. Only 16 percent said they'd renounce their U.S. citizenship." [20:12]
kinksbbx ukash anyone? [20:12]
mcorlett That's insane. [20:12]
Mad7Scientist what's a good mining card now? [20:12]
Mad7Scientist Last year it was 58xx series [20:13]
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Mad7Scientist WHAT??? only 16% [20:13]
ageis rg: you there [20:13]
Mad7Scientist You can have mine for $25,000 [20:13]
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mircea_popescu lmao [20:14]
vragnaroda mcorlett: How is that insane? [20:14]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda apparently many people belive the us has joined the civilised world in postmodernism [20:15]
mircea_popescu this obviously is not the case, but most europeans don't know the actual us. [20:15]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: The U.S. *is* the civilized world. :p [20:16]
raw_nector t [20:16]
Cusipzzz lold [20:16]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda not really. it's been the fringe of the civilised world, aspiring to join it for > 200 years now. [20:16]
mircea_popescu doesn't really seem to manage too well tho [20:16]
mircea_popescu tho to be fair parts of the coasts do a lot better than average. [20:17]
vragnaroda I can't really speak much about Romania in particular, but most of Yurop is uncivilized. [20:17]
mircea_popescu o ? which parts ? [20:18]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: [20:18]
mircea_popescu and romania lags the us for sure. [20:18]
mircea_popescu mcorlett haha romania got bulgaria ? or is it the other way around ? [20:19]
vragnaroda The parts Americans think of first: the U.K., France, Germany, Italy, the Benelux countries, and so on. [20:19]
mircea_popescu that's ludicrous. the us has europeness on small stretches, from SF to LA and from Boston to Washington, [20:19]
mircea_popescu there's the hhigh speed trains and the resulting development. [20:20]
mircea_popescu but that's 30-40mn people. [20:20]
vragnaroda rofl [20:20]
mircea_popescu europe is like that from london past wien, and we're talking ~400mn. [20:20]
mircea_popescu otherwise, you know. kansas. [20:20]
Cusipzzz lol [20:20]
vragnaroda “High speed trains” are idiotic, economically wasteful, and not that high-speed. [20:20]
mircea_popescu strong beliefs in imaginary friends et all. [20:20]
kinksbbx anybody trading for ukash? [20:21]
mircea_popescu high speed trains take electricity. [20:21]
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mircea_popescu cars don't, and quite likelty never will. [20:21]
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vragnaroda s/electricity/coal/ [20:21]
vragnaroda :p [20:21]
dsmouse s/coal/cleancoal™/ [20:22]
vragnaroda Electricity doesn't come from nowhere. [20:22]
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dsmouse Electricity does in fact not come from nowhere. [20:22]
mircea_popescu electricity will be coming from nuclear plants imo. [20:22]
vragnaroda Trains are for freight. [20:22]
dirkdizzler double negative, eh [20:22]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda, did tyou ever live in europe ? [20:23]
mircea_popescu but >3mo, so as to understand exactly how it works, this train for people thing. [20:23]
mircea_popescu it's the internet of irl, for srsly. [20:23]
vragnaroda No, but all the things that make civilization civilized have been rejected in most of Yurup. [20:23]
mircea_popescu as for instance ? [20:23]
vragnaroda Things like rule of law and property rights. [20:23]
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mircea_popescu mmm. [20:23]
mircea_popescu i'd say the rule of law scores better in the eu than i nthe us. [20:24]
mircea_popescu course they're both appalingon the subject. [20:24]
mircea_popescu so not quite sure how we'd settle that point. [20:24]
vragnaroda It's definitely getting worse and I think smaller countries like Romania are probably outliers. [20:25]
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mircea_popescu but anyway, civilisation is about hierarchy not about republicanism. the XVIIIth century france was a lot more civilised than the post-union us. [20:25]
vragnaroda If that's how you choose to define it, I don't want it. [20:25]
mircea_popescu a well. that's it then. [20:25]
vragnaroda I reject your criteria, though. [20:26]
mircea_popescu im interested in living a refined life, not in feeling brotherly to some random idiot. [20:26]
mircea_popescu i understand. [20:26]
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vragnaroda I don't care about brotherliness per se. [20:26]
mircea_popescu but ? [20:26]
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dsmouse Personally, I'm more of just pro-death. [20:27]
vragnaroda Also, it took Yurop milennia after the introduction of writing to achieve nearly universal adult literacy and it didn't take the U.S. nearly as long. [20:27]
dsmouse More abortions, more death penalty, more euthanasia, etc [20:27]
mircea_popescu there's never been the case of universal literacy. [20:27]
mircea_popescu i personally chatted up chicks that couldn't read in louisiana, for instance. [20:27]
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vragnaroda As I said, *nearly* universal literacy. [20:27]
copumpkin In the Republic of Copumpkin, there is 100% literacy [20:28]
vragnaroda Fucking hicks. [20:28]
mircea_popescu i understand... but you see... nearly is so aribitrary. [20:28]
david-alexander hmm, nice cheery conversations [20:28]
vragnaroda >98% [20:28]
mircea_popescu and again, i don't see the benefit of universal literacy. if only a chosen 10% of the population was literate we;'d have a better internet. [20:28]
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mcorlett lol [20:28]
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dsmouse Just redefine the vocabulary size and everywhere has 100% [20:29]
vragnaroda Anyhoo, back to that poll mcorlett was talking about, there's only one situation I can foresee where I'd consider renunciation of U.S. citizenship: founding a new state. [20:29]
mircea_popescu so in a very coarse comparison : you get 100 fleas, they can jump. civilisation as i define it is the highest one flea can jump. you seem to want the average of their jumps. [20:29]
vragnaroda No. [20:30]
mircea_popescu but anyway, not really otc fodder, so. maybe another tiem [20:30]
vragnaroda In fact, that seems to be nearly the opposite of what I want. [20:30]
david-alexander actually words, comprehension and meanings are unique to every interaction between 2 or more ... so vocabulary means little unless agreed upon [20:30]
mircea_popescu well if it is the opposite wtf you care about universal literacy. [20:30]
mircea_popescu let five write well and fuck the rest. [20:30]
vragnaroda It wasn't the state that was responsible for most of that. [20:31]
mcorlett Mike Gogulski (fellow Bitcoiner) renounced his U.S. citizenship. Interesting read if you have some free time: [20:31]
david-alexander as exampled, you are all saying 'I understand' but that is synonymous with 'stand under' [20:31]
vragnaroda david-alexander: No, it isn't. [20:31]
david-alexander instead of comprehend .. so .. just sa'n [20:31]
mircea_popescu i think we have an excellent illustration of the theory that universal literacy is an overal negative. [20:32]
david-alexander vragnaroda, actually it is in legal languages and old english [20:32]
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vragnaroda If ‘understand’ is to be held to be synonomous with ‘stand under,’ ‘comprehend’ can only mean ‘totally held.’ [20:32]
vragnaroda david-alexander: No, it isn't and the sense of ‘under’ in that prefix was not productive through most of the period of Old English, either. [20:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [20:33]
NASDAQEnema stand under = comprehend with a gun to your head from the officer you are standing under [20:33]
david-alexander to comprehend is exactly that know the meaning of .... to understand is to stand under a statement and give it authority over you [20:33]
vragnaroda No. [20:33]
NASDAQEnema the comprehension part is implied via violence [20:34]
david-alexander vragnaroda, have you actually read the 'law' books use for this stuff [20:34]
vragnaroda At the time ‘understandan’ entered English, ‘under’ meant ‘among’ and not ‘below.’ [20:34]
david-alexander comprehension is a grade school thing .. every child knows what that means. [20:35]
vragnaroda You're arguing from etymology and folk etymology at that. [20:35]
splatster I am looking for a few investors to get me jumpstarted on a good opportunity, please PM me if interested. [20:35]
vragnaroda ;;wp etymological fallacy [20:35]
gribble | The etymological fallacy is a genetic fallacy that holds, erroneously, that the present-day meaning of a word or phrase should necessarily be similar to its ... [20:35]
david-alexander in any case it matters not if it is not agreed upon .. so ya [20:36]
mircea_popescu prolly best to state publicly splatster. [20:36]
vragnaroda Why do you insist on using words to inhibit communication? [20:36]
NASDAQEnema legal concepts are derived through fixed usage unless redefined explicitly [20:36]
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marfin ahoy [20:36]
mcorlett splatster: Why don't you just outline the terms of the deal here? [20:37]
mcorlett marfin: ahoy [20:37]
marfin £240 via moneybookers anybody? [20:37]
david-alexander I prefer Jims statement of "look ma, I'm road kill" [20:37]
david-alexander giver take lol [20:37]
mcorlett ;;getrating [ident marfin] [20:37]
mircea_popescu david-alexander : the theory that "it needs to be agreed upon" specifically does not consider that you personally matter enough that your agreement is useful or sought. [20:37]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [20:37]
mcorlett marfin: I'm going to have to say no. [20:37]
marfin why? ._. [20:37]
marfin ohh [20:37]
marfin right [20:37]
marfin yeah i pay first [20:37]
marfin apparentlu [20:37]
marfin -u+y [20:37]
david-alexander have any of you filed a nouicor? [20:38]
marfin i havent used this place before [20:38]
neofutur what is nouicor david-alexander ? [20:38]
splatster Terms of the deal: capital is used to invest in a number of large lending opportunities, with the promise that should any of them go sour, the losses will be covered by own coins I have on hand. No more than what can be covered by my own cash will be put in one place. [20:39]
david-alexander neofutur, Notice of Understanding, Intent And Claim of Right [20:39]
mcorlett marfin: Moneybookers is about as easy to ,,chargeback as it is to... do something easy. [20:39]
gribble Many popular forms of payment, such as PayPal and credit cards, allow the sender to claw back the money via a 'chargeback'. This is very undesirable for the seller of bitcoins, so you'll often have trouble convincing people to trade on these. See for comparison of payment methods. [20:39]
dsmouse splatster: so, why do you want other peoples coins when you have the coins to cover it? [20:39]
splatster I would do this on GLBSE, but I am trying to do a test run to make sure such an investment can be managed. [20:40]
rg Coolio-: your VPS has the longest uptime on Dallas [20:40]
rg you win [20:40]
splatster dsmouse: I am saying that no more will be put -in a single place- than can be covered. [20:40]
vragnaroda rg: What's he win? [20:40]
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dsmouse ah [20:40]
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mcorlett He wins at life. [20:40]
dsmouse so, you're promising to cover the first default [20:41]
splatster So should one of them go under, I can cover the losses. [20:41]
marfin mcorlett, i wasnt aware moneybookers could chargeback [20:41]
marfin .. which is why i joined it D: [20:41]
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rg vragnaroda: gay love with daniel [20:41]
splatster dsmouse: I am promising to cover as many as possible up to maybe $1000 in total. [20:41]
mcorlett marfin: See the page. "Chargebacks are possible. Accounts have been terminated when this payment method was used for a Bitcoin trade." [20:41]
marfin :( [20:41]
splatster No more than 100 BTC will ever be in one place. [20:41]
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marfin so how do i get rid then? [20:41]
mcorlett That's possibly even worse than PayPal. I haven't heard of accounts being completely terminated for Bitcoin transactions. [20:41]
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rg relax [20:43]
rg dont do it [20:43]
splatster I see that some are already interested in this. If you are looking for a safe and diverse investment, please PM me to get started and for any additional questions you may have. [20:43]
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david-alexander mircea_popescu, " specifically does not consider that you personally matter enough that your agreement is useful or sought", that specifically states that the opinions of all mankind mean nothing, so this topic is irrelevant [20:44]
mircea_popescu no. [20:44]
rg you leave mircea alone [20:44]
rg you bad man [20:44]
david-alexander lol [20:44]
mircea_popescu you are neither a pars pro toto representative of "mankind" nor in any way relevant. [20:44]
vragnaroda david-alexander: lolwut [20:44]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen kinksbbx [20:45]
david-alexander so what are the current options for bitcoin exchange? [20:45]
mircea_popescu aggravating imsaguy ; aggravating mircea_popescu ; aggravating a few others. [20:45]
mircea_popescu :D [20:45]
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david-alexander mircea_popescu, are you responding to me? [20:46]
david-alexander if so, I don't get it? [20:47]
mircea_popescu sokay. [20:47]
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bitcoin-otc-uk ;;ticker [20:51]
mcorlett bitcoin-otc-uk: Here you go. ,,ticker [20:52]
gribble Best bid: 5.25001, Best ask: 5.26467, Bid-ask spread: 0.01466, Last trade: 5.26432, 24 hour volume: 39781, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.37998 [20:52]
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bitcoin-otc-uk i get ticker responce in pm [20:53]
bitcoin-otc-uk thanks anyway [20:53]
Rothgar ;;rate bitcoinTrader 2 had a calculation error on my end, this person understood and fixed the issue. [20:54]
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gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user bitcoinTrader has been recorded. [20:54]
BTCHero1 ;;view [20:55]
gribble #7293 Sun Mar 18 11:54:37 2012 BTCHero BUY 1.0 Troy Ounce Silver @ 1 BTC (I will buy .999 pure silver for up to 5 dollars over spot with shipping included for market rate in bitcoins) [20:55]
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QbY anyone looking for ip space/vpn [21:01]
QbY ? [21:01]
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tricetricetrice ;;buy 15 btc at 5.66 USD MP [21:07]
gribble Order id 7294 created. [21:07]
tricetricetrice yo [21:08]
tricetricetrice I'm interested in selling $85 of MP for 15 BTC [21:08]
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arij mp= [21:09]
tricetricetrice moneypak [21:09]
mcorlett ;;calc 85/15 [21:09]
gribble 5.66666666667 [21:09]
tricetricetrice I think that's a decent rate, if it seems high, it's because this is my first time selling [21:10]
NASDAQEnema will mtgox ever support litecoin? [21:10]
tricetricetrice what's the official abbreviation for moneypak, if there is any? [21:11]
mcorlett tricetricetrice: You shouldn't have a problem. Just stick around for an hour or so. [21:11]
tricetricetrice so that I can check the ;;book rates [21:11]
mcorlett MP [21:11]
tricetricetrice k [21:11]
neofutur david-alexander: this nouicor thing is interesting, I also dreamt to opt out of the government [21:13]
Rothgar so what about these "empty blocks" [21:13]
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neofutur and the keyword leads me to interesting websites I ll add to my english free news feeder ;) [21:14]
neofutur QbY: you could be interested in joining #bitcoin-hosting [21:14]
QbY sweet. [21:15]
loktite empty blocks are a travesty [21:15]
QbY hehehehee.. [21:15]
rawrmage empty blocks make ponies cry [21:15]
QbY i've got several.. [21:15]
QbY i'm trying to put them to use [21:15]
QbY i hate crying ponies [21:15]
Mqrius ;;seen nelisky [21:16]
* vragnaroda turns crying ponies into dinner. [21:17]
tricetricetrice ;;buy 13.23 BTC at 5.66 MP [21:17]
gribble Order id 7295 created. [21:17]
tricetricetrice ;;buy 13.23 BTC at 5.66 MP [21:18]
gribble Order id 7296 created. [21:18]
tricetricetrice ;;buy 15 BTC at 5.66 MP [21:18]
gribble Order id 7297 created. [21:18]
Cusipzzz the empty blocks are just more bitcents for everyone else with all the fees passed up. not a huge issue unless they suddenly get a lot more power [21:19]
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david-alexander neofutur, I have a template of mine posted on my site at, and no .. there is not certificate on it [21:20]
david-alexander neofutur, I have not yet posted my notarized copy, don't know if I will [21:20]
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phraust Sweet [21:21]
* neofutur selling 50 MTGGBP at 82 $ [21:21]
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tricetricetrice buying 13.23-15 BTC at 75-85 MP [21:22]
tricetricetrice rate = 5.66 [21:22]
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james777 ;;seen nelisky [21:23]
tricetricetrice how do you view someone's transaction history? [21:26]
tricetricetrice positive/negative reviews? [21:26]
Graet ;;getrating tricetricetrice [21:26]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask tricetricetrice!40864227@gateway/web/freenode/ip. [21:26]
tricetricetrice thanks [21:26]
Graet :) [21:27]
neofutur ;;gettrust tricetricetrice [21:27]
MBS anyone want to buy a $20 lowes, $10 best buy code, or a hollywood movie money voucher [21:27]
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tricetricetrice the question is, is imsaguy's virginity worth 10BTC? [21:30]
tricetricetrice is there some way to view, like, the last 10 BTC sell orders? [21:31]
ne0futur tricetricetrice: [21:32]
ne0futur tricetricetrice: [21:32]
ne0futur just change the nick in the url [21:32]
tricetricetrice thanks, thanks [21:33]
ne0futur also, you could be interested in registering your nickname so no one else can use it [21:33]
QbY anyone here have a we pay account? i really need to convert some cash i have sitting there to BTC.. will pay extra.. [21:33]
ne0futur /msg nickserv help register [21:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [21:33]
david-alexander ne0futur, I don't register stuff, I stopped doing that a while ago [21:34]
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ne0futur david-alexander: ? [21:34]
ne0futur hum i was talking to tricetricetrice [21:34]
david-alexander ya, nvm [21:34]
tricetricetrice so [21:35]
tricetricetrice I authenticated [21:35]
tricetricetrice how do I register my nickname [21:35]
ne0futur but I d also recommend you to register your nick ;) [21:35]
tricetricetrice ? [21:35]
tricetricetrice how do I do that, is it in the guide? [21:35]
ne0futur /msg nickserv help register [21:35]
ne0futur nickserv is not otc specific, its a standard IRC feature [21:35]
Greed Anybody wanna trade PPUSD for MtGox or BTC offhand? [21:36]
mcorlett tricetricetrice: No, that's separate from OTC. It has to do with the chat server you're on right now. It prevents someone from taking your nickname and impersonating you when you're not around. [21:36]
loktite [21:37]
Greed ;;book btc [21:37]
BTCHero Greed you are buying or selling btc? [21:37]
Greed Selling [21:37]
BTCHero oh nevermind [21:37]
mircea_popescu since gmaxwell can do it, why not me. So! Attention amateur gramaticians : [21:39]
BTCHero ;;t [21:39]
gribble Stephen Fry Kinetic Typography - Language - YouTube [21:39]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Needs more all-caps. [21:40]
BTCHero Any old timers want to buy 2.81 btc at market rate from me via paypal? [21:40]
rg ;;ticker [21:41]
BTCHero ;;ticker [21:41]
gribble Best bid: 5.23965, Best ask: 5.24, Bid-ask spread: 0.00035, Last trade: 5.24, 24 hour volume: 41604, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.37998 [21:41]
rg im selling BTC for PopMoney [21:41]
mcorlett ticker --last [21:41]
rg if anyones interesting [21:41]
mcorlett ;;ticker --last [21:41]
gribble 5.24 [21:41]
rg interested [21:41]
tricetricetrice I'm selling MP for BTC at 5.66 per BTC [21:41]
rg ;;ident tricetricetrice [21:42]
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tricetricetrice just registered [21:42]
tricetricetrice I have no background [21:42]
BTCHero tricetricetrice if you want to let me cash partial ammount i will do it [21:42]
tricetricetrice I think 5.66 is above-market to compensate for first-time [21:42]
rg how big is your moneypak [21:42]
tricetricetrice I have two for 75 [21:42]
tricetricetrice one for 85 [21:42]
rg hm [21:43]
rg i can do the 85 [21:43]
rg if i can find someone to cash ti for me [21:43]
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rg jjjrmy: you wanna cash a moneypak for me [21:43]
tricetricetrice k, I'm definitely interested [21:43]
rg for $1? [21:43]
jjjrmy-m rg: what does that mean I have to do? [21:43]
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QbY I need a MP ? Have IPs to trade :) [21:43]
BTCHero take all the risk and send rg some money [21:43]
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jjjrmy-m rg: if I have to redeem the MP for you on my paypal, then no I will not and cannot. [21:44]
tricetricetrice you talking to me BTCHero? [21:44]
jjjrmy-m especially not for $1 [21:44]
jjjrmy-m selling BTC [21:45]
BTCHero i was talking to jjjrmy-m [21:45]
tricetricetrice k [21:45]
jjjrmy-m rg: you still owe me for making that contract for you. [21:45]
rg umm [21:46]
rg you didnt make anything [21:46]
rg you said not to do it [21:46]
rg so we stopped.. [21:46]
jjjrmy-m I didn't say not to do it, Nefario said so [21:46]
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jjjrmy-m I still did it, it is still a valid contract [21:46]
tricetricetrice it might go without saying but I have receipts for the MPs [21:46]
jjjrmy-m we just didn't make it an asset yet. [21:47]
rg 19:22 [jjjrmy-m_(6166dbe4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] you should wait until 2.0 is launched [21:47]
tricetricetrice does it matter if I blank out the address of the store where I got it for privacy [21:47]
tricetricetrice is that a dealbreaker? [21:47]
rg yes you did say not to do it. [21:47]
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jjjrmy-m that was a quote from Nefario [21:47]
rg fine [21:47]
rg give me your btc address [21:47]
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tricetricetrice who me? [21:48]
rg you expect to be paid but never said 'pay me' [21:48]
rg and never gave me a btc address [21:48]
jjjrmy-m I said pay me now [21:48]
rg yeah 2 days after the fact [21:48]
BTCHero bitcoin-court [21:48]
jjjrmy-m 19FJeAbAkAPdr1d4pbax6BNkQSdx7S6fP [21:48]
BTCHero :) [21:48]
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jjjrmy-m rg: thankyou. why do you need me to cash a MP? [21:50]
BTCHero tricetricetrice if you trust me to cash partial amount of your moneypak i can do 2.81 BTC for 15 [21:50]
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rg cause i dont have acess to the company paypal [21:51]
rg and i have bitcoins to sell [21:51]
jjjrmy-m rg: well I can't even cash MPs [21:52]
jjjrmy-m sorry : [21:52]
jjjrmy-m :/ [21:52]
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BTCHero rg I will do it if you let me sell 2.81 of them and pay me back if it is fraudulent [21:52]
rg so you want over $10 to cash it [21:52]
BTCHero no [21:52]
BTCHero I want nothing, except insurance and the ability to sell my small amount of coins [21:53]
rg explain them [21:53]
rg using terms rg can understand [21:53]
BTCHero I will cash it, but I am going to keep 2.81 BTC worth and send you the rest. I will send the 2.81 btc to him. You will pay me back the whole amount if it is fraudulent [21:53]
rg ok [21:54]
rg 1CdaakHfHSHtYw61iCqcSzwy4gDC3XhV6b [21:54]
BTCHero so do whatever verification you need to do then let me know [21:54]
BTCHero and i just sent the coins to you also [21:55]
rg can someone besides btchero witness a sale [21:56]
bruzum yes [21:56]
jjjrmy-m i witnessed it [21:56]
jjjrmy-m and I'm trustworthy [21:56]
rg #bitcoin-sale-a2c3d3 [21:56]
jjjrmy-m it that a channel? [21:57]
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ne0futur ;;gettrust Greed [22:00]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user Greed: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: [22:00]
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MBS LOL [22:02]
MBS “Well, over there, all these cops were on the street and we just started, ah, kicking down fences and throwing the wood at the cops and they backed off and then there was the CTV over here and a couple of the boys, they just tipped it over and a couple of the other boys, they just burnt it... That’s...the boys for you.” [22:02]
MBS [22:02]
bengee selling $25 email gift code for thanks. [22:02]
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splatster I am looking for investors to provide capital to be used to invest in a number of large "BCBs" and other similar investment opportunities, with the promise that should any of these investments go sour, the losses will be covered by my own coins I have on hand. No more than what can be covered by my own cash will be put in one place. [22:03]
loktite cool.. what is a bcb [22:03]
splatster Bitcoin Bank [22:03]
splatster of sorts [22:04]
jjjrmy-m danieldaniel: my nigga [22:04]
jjjrmy-m selling BTC! [22:04]
danieldaniel jjjrmy-m: ? [22:04]
jjjrmy-m danieldaniel: how's it been man [22:04]
jjjrmy-m long time no see [22:04]
danieldaniel jjjrmy-m: good, except for the fact that I was here yesterday :) [22:04]
danieldaniel wait, was I/ [22:04]
jjjrmy-m I wasn't [22:04]
danieldaniel jjjrmy-m: and I'm your nigga? :D [22:04]
jjjrmy-m we allllll niggas [22:05]
vragnaroda wtf [22:05]
GlooBoy where the white women at? [22:05]
Cory splatster: What if two investments go sour? Will your investors lose? [22:05]
vragnaroda GlooBoy: No. [22:05]
splatster Cory: I will personally cover up to $1000 in bad investments. [22:05]
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splatster and no more than 50-100 BTC will ever be in one place. [22:06]
Cory So you'll cover the first $1000 of losses? [22:06]
splatster yup [22:06]
Cory Interesting. :) [22:06]
danieldaniel splatster: how would we invest? [22:06]
danieldaniel please don't say btc :( [22:06]
jjjrmy-m splatster: how do I get in on this. [22:06]
splatster This will evolve into a GLBSE investment if it gets popular [22:06]
splatster danieldaniel: I'm going to say BTC :) [22:07]
jjjrmy-m splatster: how do I get in on this [22:07]
danieldaniel splatster: so no paypal? [22:07]
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splatster jjjrmy-m: You talk about your expected terms and I consider [22:07]
OneFixt wait, other ops in otc ? coin and onefixt kicking each other ? [22:07]
OneFixt this sounds like a very solid 13 yo run op. [22:07]
OneFixt mircea_popescu: ? we've never kicked each other [22:07]
splatster danieldaniel: No. These are BTC investments, not USD investments [22:07]
danieldaniel D: [22:07]
danieldaniel so whats a bcb [22:07]
splatster "Bitcoin Bank" of sorts [22:08]
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jjjrmy-m What is a good Bitcoin tradign bot? [22:08]
danieldaniel minimum investment? [22:08]
Cory danieldaniel: You could probably buy BTC with your USD. :P [22:08]
splatster danieldaniel: The less you invest, the worse of a rate you'll get [22:09]
danieldaniel Cory: wayyyyy too lazy [22:09]
david-alexander splatster, are you referring to loans and such or what? [22:09]
netxshare ;;seen smickles [22:09]
danieldaniel ;;seen smickles [22:09]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 18 hours, 42 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: woah, lag [22:09]
danieldaniel ;;seen shakaru [22:09]
gribble shakaru was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 1 week, 1 day, 9 hours, 35 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: Can any one sell me one? [22:09]
netxshare [15:09] smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 18 hours, 42 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: woah, lag [22:09]
netxshare haha [22:09]
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danieldaniel :( [22:09]
splatster david-alexander: To start out, yes. But if there is enough demand I will cough up the money for a GLBSE contract. [22:09]
Coolty who wants a VPS? [22:10]
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Coolty Plans starting at 1BTC/month! [22:10]
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david-alexander splatster, what is GLBSE [22:10]
Coolty gay lesbian bisexual something [22:10]
splatster david-alexander: [22:10]
splatster Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange IIRC [22:11]
david-alexander splatster, ya, just checked it out, so you all want bitcoin to go government instead of staying private [22:11]
david-alexander no thank you [22:11]
splatster ? [22:11]
splatster to go to government? [22:11]
splatster The fuck are you thinking? [22:11]
rg ;;rate tricetricetrice 1 [22:11]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user tricetricetrice has been recorded. [22:11]
david-alexander any registered business is an agent of government [22:11]
splatster david-alexander: THe money isn't going to GLBSE, the stock will eventually be available on GLBSE [22:12]
david-alexander that means you have to give a government there cut, hence taxes [22:12]
vragnaroda david-alexander: Quit trolling. [22:12]
jjjrmy-m anyone have a link to the Mtgox trading bot? [22:12]
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david-alexander splatster, as best I can tell on that site it's about registered public companies yes? [22:12]
splatster david-alexander: You are insane, you have no idea what you are talking about. I say good day to you, sir. [22:12]
loktite splatster can you make a term sheet and sign it [22:12]
splatster loktite: The terms will come with GLBSE [22:13]
loktite oh ok [22:13]
david-alexander it's interesting that I'm the only one by definition not trolling [22:13]
loktite thought this was an independent deal [22:13]
loktite glbse is cool tho [22:13]
splatster But again, I have to make sure this sort of smaller run goes before I pay for a listing on GLBSE. [22:13]
vragnaroda david-alexander: Come back when you can behave (at the earliest, two hours from now). [22:14]
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splatster When I go to get listed on GLBSE, the terms and dividends will be fleshed out in full detail. [22:14]
splatster Thanks vrag. [22:14]
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ne0futur david-alexander: why would anyone "want bitcoin to go government instead of staying private" ? [22:14]
ne0futur how is it related to the discussion ? [22:14]
splatster (I think he has some reading to do) [22:15]
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jjjrmy-m Selling BTC [22:15]
rg ;;seen grubles [22:16]
gribble grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 3 days, 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: mircea_popescu: haha seriously? [22:16]
rg sure would be nice if you woke up grubles [22:16]
ne0futur wow banned already [22:16]
rg atleast once a week [22:16]
jjjrmy-m ne0futur: who is ban? [22:16]
jjjrmy-m rg: yeah, I need to talk to grubles [22:17]
ne0futur (22:12) -!- mode/#bitcoin-otc [+b *!*david-ale@*] by vragnaroda [22:17]
ne0futur (22:12) -!- david-alexander was kicked from #bitcoin-otc by vragnaroda [david-alexander] [22:17]
vragnaroda ne0futur: As I clearly said, he's on a timeout. [22:17]
rg yeah but i need grubles to do his job. [22:17]
vragnaroda He was warned more than once. [22:17]
jjjrmy-m rg: hire me :) [22:17]
ne0futur not sure I understood him, but I was feeling like he was just not understanding something . . . [22:17]
jjjrmy-m [16:18] I find it interesting that the only trolling, lying douche, in bitcoin-otc being vragnaroda (of which I was repeatedly told is a troll by many others) is the only channel op with ban abilities, why is that ... this bitcoin community is definately criminal or just ignorant for allowing such things, I have no further use for it, good day [22:18]
rg jjjrmy: no offense but i dont trust you to handle our finances [22:18]
jjjrmy-m rg: ...why :( [22:18]
rg there's over a thousand dollars in there [22:18]
rg and the only one id trust with tht is nick [22:18]
vragnaroda I don't care about that; telling people they really wanted something they explicitly did not want is idiotic, antagonistic, and is trolling. [22:18]
jjjrmy-m rg: I have more ratings then grubbles. [22:19]
vragnaroda jjjrmy-m: I saw that and lol. [22:19]
rg it has nothing to do with ratings [22:19]
rg it has to do with you being 17 and me knowing nothing about you [22:19]
jjjrmy-m what does age have to do with anything? [22:20]
vragnaroda lol [22:20]
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jjjrmy-m and you think I've never touched/seen $1k+ before? [22:21]
rg $1k of someone elses money, no [22:22]
rg money that you could tkae and i could do nothing about [22:22]
jjjrmy-m I could do that on giftcoin any day, and I'd be rich [22:22]
rg as i said [22:22]
rg its not personal [22:22]
jjjrmy-m i know [22:22]
rg i just dont know you enough to trust you with my companies money [22:22]
rg i dont even trust myself, hence my not having access [22:23]
jjjrmy-m rg: do you have skype? I'm going out to get somethign to eat [22:23]
mcorlett Trust, but verify. [22:23]
copumpkin im 12 and wat is this [22:24]
bengee selling $25 email gift code for pm me thanks. [22:26]
mcorlett What is it with these fucking CVS gift codes?! [22:26]
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rg no i dont [22:26]
rg mcorlett: i think they give them out for free [22:27]
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Cusipzzz always cvs... never walgreens. walgreens i'd take [22:27]
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loktite copumpkin sup [22:29]
copumpkin :o [22:29]
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rg pveca -s [22:30]
rg uff [22:32]
rg why do people sign up with paypal [22:32]
rg the nselect Bitcoin as payment [22:32]
rg then manually calculate the price [22:32]
rg and send it [22:32]
rg i dont even have access to the paypal to verify this dudes order [22:32]
rg and i cant refund him until grubles shows up [22:32]
copumpkin people will always find a way to be retarded unless you cover all your bases [22:32]
rg well i thoguth it was pretty obvious [22:33]
rg on the last page it says [22:33]
rg Payment Options [22:33]
rg () Bitcoin [22:33]
rg () PayPal [22:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [22:33]
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mircea_popescu lmao david-alexander got upset and left us ? [22:35]
ne0futur been banned [22:35]
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rg lol i figred out spawns scam [22:38]
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rg he buys BTC from us at normal rates [22:38]
rg then sells to newbies at 30% + [22:38]
Cusipzzz lol [22:38]
Cusipzzz then he gets chargedback :/ [22:39]
rg he's not been charged back once [22:39]
rg even when trading with a known scammer [22:39]
Cusipzzz not yet.. there is a long window [22:39]
ne0futur (22:36) <+ rg> he buys BTC from us at normal rates [22:40]
ne0futur (22:36) <+ rg> then sells to newbies at 30% + [22:40]
ne0futur pretty sure its true [22:40]
Cory Nothing wrong with that. He figured the risks are worth 30%. [22:40]
ne0futur sometimes remembers me of a foodstamp [22:40]
rg ne0futur [22:41]
rg thats what i thought [22:41]
ne0futur too many ratings , all recent [22:41]
rg but hes been around too long to be foodstamp [22:41]
Cusipzzz he gets 2 chargebacks in a row, say goodbye to his paypal acct. they might be waiting the 90 days [22:41]
ne0futur [22:41]
ne0futur but he ll soon reach 45 days [22:41]
OneFixt but hes been around too long to be foodstamp <--- longer than a year? [22:41]
rg he wouldve screwed by now [22:42]
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OneFixt rg: not at all [22:42]
ne0futur not long time here [22:42]
mcorlett danieldaniel: You didn't use escrow for that Xbox even after I told you about the risks? [22:42]
OneFixt he wouldn't do it exactly the same the 2nd time around [22:42]
mcorlett I'm sorry, but are you stupid? [22:42]
ne0futur first rating 2012-02-05 03:28:19 [22:42]
danieldaniel mcorlett: yeah, he convinced me not to [22:42]
danieldaniel and yes [22:42]
danieldaniel I am [22:42]
rg lol [22:42]
rg hhaha [22:42]
rg ok im going to throw the football around for a bit [22:42]
rg bbl [22:42]
mcorlett Jeebus [22:42]
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mcorlett You live and you learn, I suppose. [22:43]
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mircea_popescu rg so how is that a scam ? [22:45]
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mircea_popescu seems to me a legit and very useful service. [22:45]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: rg isn't here (rg is throwing the football around for a bit) [22:46]
Cusipzzz should be higher than 30%, he's gonna get nailed at some point and paypal frozen for 6 months, likely. [22:46]
mircea_popescu aw k. [22:46]
mircea_popescu cusipzzz i wouldn't do it for 50% lol. [22:46]
Cusipzzz mircea_popescu: same [22:46]
mircea_popescu but on the other hand there needs to be someone pumping btcs to noobs. [22:47]
mcorlett The more you charge, the higher the risk of trading with a scammer. It's not their money, so they don't give a shit about how much they're paying over market. [22:47]
mircea_popescu prolly #1 most important thing atm. [22:47]
ne0futur (22:36) <+ rg> lol i figred out spawns scam [22:47]
nanotube well, first, you could keep minimal funds in pp all the time (a smart idea for everyone regardless), and second, if it gets frozen... just open up another account. [22:47]
mircea_popescu andf that's a solid point mcorlett. [22:48]
ne0futur I agree with mircea_popescu , its not what we could call a scam [22:48]
ne0futur or at least not yet [22:48]
mircea_popescu nanotube : i move tens of k's through that paypal. last thing i need is any hassle. [22:48]
nanotube mircea_popescu: yes indeed - but for someone whose only business is small-volume trades, not a big deal. [22:48]
mircea_popescu that i can see. [22:48]
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mircea_popescu it's pretty old, too. been suspended only once for ~9 hours. opened up an internet buy thing that balooned [22:49]
mircea_popescu forgot to announce them aforehand. but they were quick to resolve. [22:49]
ne0futur but as far as i m concerned I wont do another transaction with spawn beore he reaches at least 90 days old ratings [22:49]
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bengee h [22:58]
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rg wow its hot out [23:04]
rg its 72F out [23:04]
bruzum haut [23:04]
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bruzum 44F here [23:05]
Cory 78F here. :P [23:06]
ne0futur always cold here [23:06]
Graet 80f at 5am [23:06]
rg i need to figure a way to sneak in a message to idiots [23:06]
rg to select PayPal if youre paying with paypal [23:06]
Cory 10F higher than the record for today. [23:06]
bruzum rg: MITM? [23:06]
mircea_popescu [23:06]
rg no [23:06]
bruzum :P [23:06]
rg its SSL anyway [23:06]
bruzum rg: what do you they select today if they want to pay using paypal? [23:07]
rg um wht [23:07]
rg people just breeze through the order [23:07]
rg and dont read [23:07]
ageis the guy who took that photo committed suicide [23:07]
vragnaroda It is 532°R here right now. [23:08]
rg whatever that means [23:08]
rg i guess i could decrypt this PHP [23:09]
rg and modify it [23:09]
vragnaroda ;;convert 532 Rankine to F [23:09]
gribble 72.33 [23:09]
vragnaroda [23:10]
netxshare hahaha [23:10]
splatster lol [23:11]
neofutur ;;convert 532 Rankine to C [23:11]
gribble 22.4055555556 [23:11]
splatster vragnaroda: The sad thing is how believable that is. [23:11]
* splatster hates being an IT guy [23:11]
tricetricetrice ;;rate rg 2 [23:12]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user rg has been recorded. [23:12]
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Cory danieldaniel: How's that deal with Zombie going? [23:13]
danieldaniel Cory: shitty [23:13]
tricetricetrice hey [23:14]
tricetricetrice I have two moneypaks worth 75 [23:14]
tricetricetrice that I'm trying to sell for BTC at 5.66 per BTC [23:14]
Cory danieldaniel: Interesting. He stopped messaging me about a MoneyPak deal when I told him we needed to use an escrow, and I've seen some threads about him that don't inspire confidence. [23:15]
danieldaniel :( [23:15]
danieldaniel Well thats encouraging [23:15]
danieldaniel g2g [23:16]
tricetricetrice you guys referring to me? [23:16]
tricetricetrice I just had one successful transaction [23:16]
tricetricetrice not a long track record, I grant you [23:16]
tricetricetrice but my rate is definitely favorable [23:17]
tricetricetrice to compensate for that [23:17]
bruzum ;;ticker [23:18]
tricetricetrice ;;ticker [23:19]
gribble Best bid: 5.24006, Best ask: 5.24912, Bid-ask spread: 0.00906, Last trade: 5.24004, 24 hour volume: 41144, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.34 [23:19]
tricetricetrice 5.66 is def. above market [23:20]
tricetricetrice BTCHero/jjermy/rg can vouch that I had one successful transaction [23:20]
tricetricetrice and of course, I send my info first [23:20]
mircea_popescu ;;ident tricetricetrice [23:20]
mircea_popescu cool. [23:21]
pollywanna hey everyone, I'm kind of new to this(1 transactions) i was thinking of going to the store and buying a MP to trade for some bitcoins. I want to buy 9 btc. Would $6/btc be a fair trade? or should i pick up a bigger MP. thanks [23:22]
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bruzum :D [23:23]
bruzum yes, 6 per btc is very fair [23:23]
splatster pollywanna: the current mt gox rate is about $5.30/BTC [23:23]
splatster ;;ticker [23:23]
gribble Best bid: 5.24003, Best ask: 5.27557, Bid-ask spread: 0.03554, Last trade: 5.25001, 24 hour volume: 40660, 24 hour low: 5.211, 24 hour high: 5.34 [23:23]
mcorlett ;;ticker --last [23:23]
gribble 5.25001 [23:23]
splatster Ahem, $5.25/BTC [23:24]
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splatster lolbye [23:25]
rg lol wow [23:25]
rg this download site [23:25]
rg (mediafire esq) [23:25]
rg is making me wait 300 seconds [23:25]
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bruzum rg: esq? [23:27]
splatster gah, loktite was about to do a deal with me. [23:27]
bengee selling $25 email gift code for pm me thanks. [23:28]
mcorlett bengee: Do you have a receipt for that? [23:28]
bengee mcorlett no? [23:28]
bruzum bengee: mcorlett is from the IRS [23:29]
* copumpkin is from the FBI [23:29]
bengee lol [23:29]
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copumpkin bengee: will you come with me please? [23:29]
splatster ;;getrating loktite [23:29]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [23:29]
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splatster lol [23:29]
rg gotta love PHP encryption [23:29]
bengee yes [23:29]
rg why even bother [23:29]
mcorlett The I'm just checking if you didn't get the gift caRd for freebieS. [23:29]
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bengee no freebieS [23:30]
mcorlett lol [23:30]
ocminer i can sell 20 btc for 100 ppusd (thats 5 ppusd per btc) [23:31]
mcorlett bengee: I ask again! Did you pay for the gift card, and if so, do you have a receipt? [23:31]
mcorlett Failure to respond will result in infinite detention. [23:31]
mcorlett indefinite [23:31]
bengee no receipt [23:31]
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bengee it was a gift [23:31]
bruzum :-) [23:32]
terrytibbs ahahahha [23:32]
bengee mcorlett do you want to buy? [23:32]
terrytibbs hilaaaaariouss [23:32]
bruzum yeah.. why the fuck would he have a receipt for a gift card? [23:32]
bruzum :D [23:32]
copumpkin if someone gave me a CVS gift code, I'd be pissed [23:32]
bruzum THAT would be suspicious [23:32]
copumpkin "dude, you smell like ass. Here, have this CVS gift code and buy some soap or something" [23:33]
mcorlett bengee: I can offer you a deal. You give me the gift card code, I call CVS to make sure it's been paid for. If it has, I'll give you $15 for it. If not, you give me $15 and take the code back. [23:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. [23:33]
copumpkin lol [23:33]
tricetricetrice so I've got a few hours left to wait here [23:33]
copumpkin mcorlett plays hardball [23:33]
tricetricetrice what would y'all say are the chances I'll be able to unload two 75$ moneypaks [23:34]
* mcorlett has a hunch [23:34]
tricetricetrice both have receipts, of course [23:34]
copumpkin tricetricetrice: depends how many coins you want for them [23:34]
bengee mcorlett do you have coins? [23:34]
copumpkin tricetricetrice: I'm not interested in them myself :) I'm asking you in public so other people can make an informed decision [23:34]
mircea_popescu he has a few coins, im sure. [23:34]
rg ok i decrypted this proprietary PHP app [23:35]
rg so i can make a simple 3 line modification [23:35]
copumpkin rg: l33t hax0rz [23:35]
rg that voids my license [23:35]
tricetricetrice 75$ MP for 13.23 BTC, rate is 5.66 [23:35]
tricetricetrice def. above market [23:35]
rg awesome. [23:35]
tricetricetrice b/c I don't have too much of a rep [23:35]
copumpkin tricetricetrice: I doubt you'll have much difficulty finding someone at that price [23:36]
copumpkin if you send first, that is [23:36]
bengee mcorlett i wll do that if you have coins [23:36]
Cory ;;rate ocminer 1 I sold him 100 PPUSD. :) [23:36]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ocminer has been recorded. [23:36]
tricetricetrice I'll also send first, of course [23:36]
tricetricetrice to anyone reputable [23:36]
ocminer ;;rate Cory 1 nice and easy transaction, would trade again !" [23:36]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Cory has been recorded. [23:36]
mcorlett bengee: I'm even more suspicious now. [23:37]
tricetricetrice how do I strike a balance between spamming the board and getting my MPs sold [23:37]
tricetricetrice like, what's an unacceptable frequency of listing what I'm willing to sell at? [23:38]
mcorlett tricetricetrice: With a sell order. [23:38]
bengee mcorlett with cvs email gift card you can check ballance on line here [23:40]
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bengee mcorlett and you can call cvs and get gift card closed staight away [23:41]
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mcorlett bengee: I don't care about the balance. I wanted to call them to make sure you didn't get it for free on some offer and are now reselling it. [23:41]
bengee mcorlett 877) 295-7777. vs number [23:42]
bengee cvs [23:42]
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bengee i will give you code you can csh in then pay me? [23:42]
bengee cash [23:42]
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bruzum :) [23:44]
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bruzum mcorlett: you should go on with the deal. we all witnessed that you initated a trade with bengee! :D [23:47]
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bengee mcorlett you dont have give me the coins untill you are %100 happy [23:48]
tricetricetrice ;;getrating bengee [23:49]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [23:49]
bengee i will do that deal with eneyone [23:50]
bengee i just want to sell [23:50]
bengee plz help [23:50]
bengee i love coins [23:50]
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Tman_ Hello, have never tried this before but I'm trying to turn my $200 MP into BTC? any suggestions help anyone has for me? [23:52]
ne0futur ;;ident Tman_ [23:53]
gribble Nick 'Tman_', with hostmask 'Tman_!47a9946b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified. [23:53]
ne0futur Tman_: first register, read [23:53]
Tman_ thanks [23:54]
james777 anyone selling btc for ukash? [23:54]
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rg here i go again on my own [23:55]
rg going down the only road ive ever known! [23:55]
bruzum james777: #bitcoin-otc-eu [23:55]
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rg like a twister i was born to walk alone! [23:55]
rg which sint true [23:55]
james777 thank you [23:55]
rg cause there are sister tornados [23:55]
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llanox anybody selling bitcoins for paypal personal/gift payment? [23:58]
neofutur ;;ident llanox [23:58]
gribble Nick 'llanox', with hostmask 'llanox!631290a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified. [23:58]
neofutur no [23:58]
llanox Just because I"m not regestered? [23:58]
llanox I've bought on otc plenty of times [23:59]
llanox people can vouch for me.. [23:59]
llanox anybody? [23:59]
splatster llanox: register or no smart person will want to deal with you. [23:59]
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