Forum logs for 17 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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helo so all of this stuff about this pebbles bot... this is a bot that isn't going to be allowed to talk in-channel? [00:04]
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nanotube at the moment, it'll talk in chan if you're authed to otc. [00:05]
danieldaniel who won the bfl? [00:05]
danieldaniel the blf single* [00:05]
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danieldaniel who won??? [00:06]
splatster helo: The bot can now talk in the channel if you are authed. [00:06]
helo awesome! [00:07]
Raccoon Now you have no excuse not to know about electrical engineering and computer science. http://mitx.mit.edu/ -- MIT's free EE-CS classes! [00:07]
helo pebbles does a query to gribble every time someone requests something in channel? [00:07]
danieldaniel Can someone answer me? :( [00:07]
Staatsfeind danieldaniel: Let's ask Gribble. ,,eightball [00:08]
gribble In your dreams. [00:08]
Joric omg    [00:08]
Joric © 2012/2013 bitscalper.com [00:08]
danieldaniel Seriously [00:08]
danieldaniel Does anyone know? [00:08]
Joric (4 lines of &nbsp) [00:08]
nanotube helo: not every time, it caches auth status for a while. [00:08]
Staatsfeind How will it reäct when gribble pings out? [00:09]
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Zommy Buying 4 BTC via PPUSD. [00:10]
BTCHero ;;getrating zommy [00:10]
gribble User Zommy, created on Sat Oct 22 19:40:00 2011. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Zommy Currently not authenticated. [00:10]
nanotube Staatsfeind: unless it has your auth cached, it'll assume you're not authed. [00:11]
nanotube splatster: ^ in case it doesn't :) [00:11]
danieldaniel ;;IDENT [00:11]
gribble You are identified as user danieldaniel, with GPG key id C5D21E9BDCAE3594, and key fingerprint 4761C0C9EA65B824459AF736C5D21E9BDCAE3594. [00:11]
nanotube splatster: i bet you haven't handled the case yet where gribble doesn't respond within a reasonable amount of time. so ... be sure to do that [00:11]
danieldaniel capslockfail [00:11]
helo cockslapfail [00:12]
Zommy ;;ticker [00:13]
gribble Best bid: 5.34002, Best ask: 5.35999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01997, Last trade: 5.34, 24 hour volume: 32784, 24 hour low: 5.283, 24 hour high: 5.4 [00:13]
rawrmage danieldaniel: me (i wish) [00:13]
Cory ;;buy 100 BTC at 5.00 USD PPUSD or MoneyPak [00:14]
gribble Order id 7251 created. [00:14]
rawrmage danieldaniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9vvfOznEbs&feature=related [00:14]
Staatsfeind rawrmage: http://www.dramafever.com/drama/4111/1/MBC_Music_Core_-_March_2012/ [00:14]
IcePee hello [00:15]
IcePee can anyone help me? [00:15]
IcePee with gribble? [00:16]
splatster IcePee: Don't ask to ask, just ask. [00:16]
rawrmage Staatsfeind: oh, you're not danieldaniel [00:16]
rawrmage kpop [00:16]
rawrmage lol [00:16]
IcePee splatster, thanks [00:16]
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Staatsfeind rawrmage: That show's the only thing I've found that's in Korean and has captions. [00:16]
Magnitude pop op [00:16]
Staatsfeind (Korean captions; not translated subtitles) [00:17]
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Staatsfeind rawrmage: Having watched all the episodes for the past two years, I think I've found about four songs I liked, though. [00:19]
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danieldaniel OmGsIcLe [00:25]
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chwergy Buying BTC [00:26]
chwergy for PPUSD [00:26]
dsmouse how much? [00:26]
mcorlett bitcoin-otc-uk: Are you pleased to announce the existence of #bitcoin-otc-uk for all UK trading needs? [00:27]
chwergy 11 [00:27]
chwergy for 58 USD [00:27]
Staatsfeind mcorlett: OMG, STFU. [00:27]
bitcoin-otc-uk mcorlett no [00:27]
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mcorlett Staatsfeind, bitcoin-otc-uk: Good. [00:27]
bitcoin-otc-uk mcorlett you did [00:28]
Cory I'm looking to buy 110 BTC @ $5.30 with PPUSD or MoneyPak. :) [00:28]
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smickles .wik rtp [00:33]
pebbles "This page has been deleted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rtp [00:33]
smickles pebbles in chat? [00:33]
Staatsfeind smickles: While you're authenticated to gribble, yes. [00:33]
splatster smickles: Yes. Only if you are authed tho. [00:33]
Joric 'Very short article providing little or no context' [00:33]
smickles woah [00:33]
* Staatsfeind smacks splatster. [00:33]
Zommy Buying 10 BTC via PPUSD. [00:34]
splatster Staatsfeind: Hey! [00:34]
smickles i'll use the power responcibly [00:34]
* Staatsfeind smacks smickles. [00:34]
smickles responcibilibuddy [00:34]
Joric http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_Transport_Protocol exists though [00:34]
Staatsfeind splatster: Look at what the fuck you typed. [00:34]
Staatsfeind Joric: So make a redirect. [00:34]
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Staatsfeind Or a disambiguation article. [00:34]
smickles Joric: I was looking for the abbr. for "right propper" [00:34]
splatster s/tho/though/ [00:34]
Staatsfeind Hey, the Spanish Inquisition just showed up. I bet no one expected that. [00:34]
splatster smickles: It works just like gribble does in channel [00:35]
mcorlett I did! [00:35]
Joric i'm not that into editing wikipedia [00:35]
Joric i'm saving the world here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/18 [00:35]
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splatster Speaking of pebbles, he has to be rebooted for just a sec because of a possible hole. [00:36]
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mcorlett Joric: We're all very proud of you for getting that commit in. [00:36]
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splatster Now pebbles can use his +v, lol. [00:37]
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splatster gah! [00:37]
draco49 pebbles! [00:38]
pebbles draco49! [00:38]
rg pf [00:38]
rg throwing around modes [00:38]
splatster How dareth thee?! [00:38]
smickles ;;view 7096 [00:38]
gribble #7096 Tue Mar 6 21:34:31 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 Depositary Receipt @ 0.1 BTC (I can do any amount (positive integer). This DR represents the underlying asset MPOE.ETF on GLBSE. I will act as a holding agent for anyone who doesn't want to use GLBSE to purchase shares of the fund. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0) [00:38]
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rg /msg chanserv access #bitcoin-otc add rg +O [00:38]
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draco49 I have no idea who won that BFL raffle, but it is definitely the most ridiculous raffle i've ever encountered/ [00:39]
Staatsfeind /kick rg [00:39]
rgsgr ;; [00:39]
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draco49 Matthew should NEVER hold another raffle. [00:40]
terry draco49: it's matthew [00:40]
terry what did you expect [00:40]
Cusipzzz pretty sure he won it. [00:41]
smickles matthew won his own raffle? [00:41]
rawrmage lol [00:41]
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* neofutur selling GNU/Linux, web, SEO services, and more, check http://gw.gd/bcservices [00:41]
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dsmouse how do you register for the ratings agian? [00:41]
rawrmage hash your email [00:41]
draco49 No I'm sure there's a legit winner, but it's one of the biggest clusterfucks in the history of technology. [00:41]
rawrmage is it c267a549d21a37b371b8d4fa5b944d55bd5624dfcc735f4045031fd53a640bff? [00:41]
rawrmage you win [00:41]
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splatster There ya go, pebbles. [00:42]
smickles sha256 hash? [00:42]
IcePee OK, my query: I'm attempting to put an entry in the orderbook. However, although I can covert USD to another currency, I can't go the other way around. Is this me, or is it a bug? [00:42]
draco49 That hash isn't my email, and even if I did win, it doesn't change the absurdity of the whole thing. [00:42]
smickles IcePee: you cant do 'gbp in usd' [00:43]
draco49 I'm still trying to figure out how the winner was chosen. [00:43]
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rg oh score [00:43]
rg they made me an op [00:43]
OneFixt neofutur: your pricing on the post seems broken [00:43]
rg no one piss me off or disobey the rules [00:43]
rg or ill ban you [00:43]
danieldaniel oh crap [00:44]
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danieldaniel D: [00:44]
smickles ban him! [00:44]
rg and my bans arent these mamby pamby 'temporary' bans [00:44]
rg my bans are infinite [00:44]
Zommy anyone selling BTC via PPUSD? [00:44]
draco49 danieldaniel, do you have any idea how the winner was actually chosen? [00:44]
neofutur OneFixt: tahnsk or the eedback, need to report changes ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68205 ) [00:44]
danieldaniel draco49: no :( [00:44]
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IcePee smickles, OK, thanks, I thought I was missing something. [00:44]
OneFixt np [00:44]
rawrmage smickles: echo -n 'your email' | sha256hash [00:44]
smickles IcePee: wait [00:44]
rawrmage sha256hash* [00:44]
smickles IcePee: i meant that as a question [00:45]
OneFixt neofutur: nice tools [00:45]
smickles 190130ba984b6314bfe9bf3491f4f7af47fd9b394fe4fe88fca88e7b05656620 [00:45]
smickles rawrmage: ^ [00:45]
IcePee smickles, no [00:45]
rawrmage well that's not c267a549d21a37b371b8d4fa5b944d55bd5624dfcc735f4045031fd53a640bff [00:45]
Joric echo -n 'your email'| sha256hash ? [00:45]
rawrmage so you didn't win [00:45]
rawrmage SUM [00:45]
smickles i didn't enter [00:45]
rawrmage SHA256SUM [00:45]
rawrmage smickles: well that explains it then [00:45]
* smickles knew it was sha256sum [00:46]
smickles or openssl dgst sha256 [00:46]
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mcorlett echo -n degreal@gmail.com | sha256sum [00:46]
mcorlett c267a549d21a37b371b8d4fa5b944d55bd5624dfcc735f4045031fd53a640bff [00:46]
smickles /exec echo -n "xiberphim@gmail.com" | openssl dgst -sha256 -binary | openssl dgst -rmd160 [00:47]
smickles 9f6af9d283d22235ac0ac9f150b2e6d377e611ce [00:47]
smickles ;) [00:47]
smickles it's like a bitcoin addy [00:47]
rawrmage mcorlett: is that you? :o [00:47]
IcePee smickles, no, I can't [00:47]
mcorlett rawrmage: :p [00:47]
smickles /exec echo -n "xiberphim@gmail.com" | openssl dgst -sha256 -binary | openssl dgst -sha256 [00:48]
rawrmage mcorlett: oh just saw that post [00:48]
rawrmage :P [00:48]
smickles a30d2b3cd942630861b0b17e9e5fb6031ccffaca7cd4b14fc67a84ad95dcf8f8 [00:48]
smickles maybe you have to double sha your email [00:48]
rawrmage sha it until it works [00:48]
IcePee if you're talking checksums, have you used jacksum? [00:48]
BTC_Bear 1000 iterations^256 [00:48]
IcePee it's a java checksum multi tool [00:49]
draco49 lol at least it was a well-planned, transparent raffle! [00:49]
mcorlett IcePee: Mmmm... Java... [00:49]
IcePee mcorlett, it's really nice. You can list all the checksums of a single file. [00:50]
dsmouse ;;guide [00:50]
Mad7Scientist hello I am using the /exec command on xchat! [00:51]
draco49 referral credits, multiples of 100, hashed email addresses, arbitrary "winning" block, some bizarre hex2dec + mod operator [00:51]
IcePee and some are /very/ obscure. [00:51]
splatster Do you have ideas for possible plugins for pebbles? Of course you do! Feel free to share them with me. [00:51]
smickles splatster: is it the original pebbles, or the older pebbles? [00:52]
smickles :D [00:52]
splatster ? [00:52]
* smickles was being creepy for humor [00:52]
draco49 I think it's Fruity Pebbles [00:52]
mcorlett IcePee: It's still Java. I'm sure there are other tools that will do the same thing that don't rely on a language with a messy exception hierarchy, no meta model, or terrible IO classes. I don't even want to get started on its garbage collection. [00:52]
neofutur fixed, thanks again OneFixt [00:53]
Cory Don't tell anybody, but I'm looking to buy 110 BTC @ $5.30 with PPUSD or MoneyPak. [00:53]
rawrmage splatster: a kyrospawn command to turn up the appropriate kyrospawn youtube link for the quote searched for [00:53]
neofutur OneFixt: still much wrk to make it better, but useful for ewebsites and forum prices;) [00:53]
smickles mcorlett: doing it in python is easer anyway [00:53]
mcorlett Python is nice [00:53]
IcePee mcorlett, Yeah, java /can/ be top heavy at times. But it saved my ass on a ARM Linux machine [00:54]
* splatster looks up kyrospawn [00:54]
splatster It's about ponies. No, rawrmage, I won't do that. [00:54]
IcePee mcorlett, install and go. [00:54]
Zommy how the hell do you add funds to a mt gox account :| [00:54]
rawrmage splatster: well, damn. worth a try [00:54]
IcePee mcorlett, so I hear [00:55]
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loktigon- po-kneez [00:55]
mcorlett Zommy: Have you looked under "funding options"? [00:55]
Zommy lol thanks [00:55]
Zommy i swear i looked through everything [00:55]
Zommy guess i can be blind some times :P thanks. [00:56]
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Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak? [00:56]
pingdrive ;;getrating [00:57]
Mad7Scientist You have the moneypack and want coins? [00:57]
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Judgement51 yes [00:59]
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splatster Would a a http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ command be useful? [01:00]
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Staatsfeind splatster: Sure. [01:02]
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rawrmage splatster: how bout a exec command [01:03]
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chwergy hey judgement, whats your rate? [01:03]
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chwergy i just traded with two people [01:04]
chwergy so im not as 'new' anymore [01:04]
smickles Rough Draft TOS: Fuck you, pay me. Rough Draft Privacy Policy: I take what you give in any way and use it how I want to. [01:04]
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rawrmage shut up and take my money! [01:05]
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smickles splatster: a doj.me or or dfojm would be sweet [01:05]
smickles rawrmage: we'll do good business together [01:06]
rawrmage splatster: ACS literature search? [01:06]
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smickles splatster: some sort of command that calls PETA asshats for taking a good idea a ruining it [01:06]
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chwergy anyone wanting to buy 10 BTC? [01:07]
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smickles i can for 19.76 usd [01:08]
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smickles or smaller amounts [01:08]
pingdrive smickers how much usd? [01:09]
pingdrive for 10 [01:09]
smickles 19.76, i think [01:09]
smickles oh, i only have 19.76 in my pp acct [01:09]
pingdrive 10 BTC for 19.76? [01:09]
smickles I think i have 4 something LRUSD [01:09]
pingdrive grr i dont understand [01:10]
smickles 19.76 usd for X btc [01:10]
pingdrive are you selling 10 btc for 19 usd? [01:10]
smickles 02:07 < chwergy> anyone wanting to buy 10 BTC? [01:10]
smickles 02:08 <+smickles> i can for 19.76 usd [01:10]
pingdrive grr [01:10]
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pingdrive my bad wrong user [01:10]
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pingdrive chwergy, how much for 10 [01:10]
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Cory ;;buy 100 BTC at "0.95 * {mtgoxlast}" PPUSD or MoneyPak [01:11]
gribble Order id 7252 created. [01:11]
Cory But for you guys I'd buy 110 at $5.30. :) [01:12]
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subpar how about 100 @ 1,05 mtgoxlast [01:14]
subpar ;) [01:14]
Mad7Scientist Selling bitcoins for PayPal USD $5.50 each [01:14]
Cory subpar: You're silly! [01:14]
subpar so - you are [01:15]
subpar no [01:15]
subpar why would i take less than mtgoxlast [01:15]
subpar the bid/ask spread isn't 5% [01:15]
Cory Perhaps you need PPUSD or MoneyPak now. [01:15]
subpar ppusd isn't as good as mtgox then dwolla [01:15]
Cory Then it wouldn't make much sense for you to sell under market, silly! [01:16]
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subpar my point exactly [01:16]
subpar hence willing to sell over market [01:16]
copumpkin subpar: the point is that some people need quick cash [01:16]
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copumpkin and are willing to sell below market [01:16]
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subpar copumpkin: understood [01:17]
copumpkin also, Cory is awesome enough that he could convince anyone to sell him coins at {mtgoxlast} / 2 [01:17]
Cory Clearly not! [01:17]
subpar +1 [01:17]
subpar =) [01:17]
Cory I'll probably buy at market in a little while if nobody picks up my offer anyway. [01:18]
subpar yes - and at that point - just as good to buy from mtgox [01:19]
subpar we are two sides of the same coin [01:19]
subpar ;) [01:19]
subpar I only sell here over market [01:19]
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Zommy ;;rate Mad7Scientist 1 Super smooth and easy transaction. [01:21]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Mad7Scientist has been recorded. [01:21]
Mad7Scientist ;;rate Zommy 1 Bought 10 BTC from me with PPUSD. Sent first. [01:21]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Zommy has been recorded. [01:21]
smickles nick = nick.replace('|','||').replace('_','|_').replace('%','|%') [01:23]
smickles cursor.execute("""SELECT * FROM users WHERE nick LIKE ? ESCAPE '|'""", (nick,)) [01:23]
smickles is that really all the escaping that needs to be done? [01:23]
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smickles *that's from gribble's getByNick function [01:23]
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Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak? [01:27]
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danieldaniel soo [01:31]
danieldaniel anyone want a sim card? [01:31]
smickles cdma? [01:31]
danieldaniel smickles: i think [01:31]
danieldaniel its red rocket [01:31]
danieldaniel red pocket* [01:31]
danieldaniel http://goredpocket.com/ [01:32]
danieldaniel g2g [01:32]
splatster What would be the best name for the ".isdown" command I just made? [01:35]
splatster Would ".isdown bitcoin.org" be a good enough way to call it? [01:35]
Gaming4JC https://gun.io/ <-- awesome. [01:37]
chwergy who wants to Buy 10 BTC? [01:37]
splatster Anyone? [01:37]
CaptainDDL splatster, that, or .offline [01:38]
rasengan Signup for an anonymous VPN service and protect your identity, while simultaneously supporting the Bitcoin-OTC! https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/otc/ [01:38]
CaptainDDL something easy to remember [01:38]
splatster CaptainDDL: I'll just keep .isdown [01:38]
CaptainDDL .status even [01:39]
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splatster hmmm [01:39]
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splatster .isdown bitcoin.org [01:40]
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splatster fuuu [01:40]
CaptainDDL pebbles [01:40]
CaptainDDL nice [01:40]
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Staatsfeind )lobotomy remove #bitcoin-otc [01:40]
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Staatsfeind Oh, it doesn't respond at all to commands when that's done. [01:41]
s1mngg wts ukash [01:41]
chwergy eph, pebbles... looking to buy BTC? [01:41]
chwergy or anyone [01:41]
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extor Does this make any sense to anyone, through google translate? http://tramanets.blogspot.com/2011/06/blog-post_26.html#comment-form wtf! [01:42]
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rawrmage ;;later tell cablesaurus I like your quit message. [01:47]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:47]
Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak? [01:48]
chwergy hey judge [01:48]
chwergy check my ratings [01:48]
chwergy am i still too new for you? [01:49]
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loktigon- kony [01:53]
s1mngg wts ukash for btc/lr/mtgox [01:53]
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chwergy audios peeps [01:56]
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* neofutur selling 50 MTGGBP for 83 USD, mtgox coupon code or PP if trusted [02:01]
s1mngg hey guys, does anyone BUY pokerstars money these days? [02:04]
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neofutur nothing in days [02:05]
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BlueMatt POTENTIALLY CRITICAL SECURITY VULNERABILITY IN BITCOIN-QT ON WINDOWS: All users of Bitcoin-Qt on Windows should upgrade NOW to 0.5.3.1 or 0.6rc4! See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 for more information. [02:18]
Cory Thanks! [02:19]
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gigavps booooom [02:19]
loktigon- is the coin in danger? [02:20]
BlueMatt "Due to the nature of the vulnerability, we believe it would be very difficult for an attacker to do anything more than crash the Bitcoin-Qt process. However, because there is a possibility of such a crash causing remote code execution we consider this a critical issue." [02:20]
BlueMatt so...its possible, yes [02:21]
gmaxwell loktigon-: the problem is windows gui specific. Depends on how you define "the coin" and "danger" [02:22]
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Staatsfeind gmaxwell: Oh, you and trying to define a problem before saying how big it is. [02:24]
s1mngg WTS : Pokerstars usd for btc [02:25]
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Cusipzzz BlueMatt: good one, but not enough for ya :) [02:27]
BlueMatt Cusipzzz: apparently not...oh well [02:27]
Cusipzzz haha [02:27]
Cusipzzz nobody runs windows client anyway [02:27]
BlueMatt but seriously, whats the fun in discovering a vulnerability if you cant make money off of it? [02:27]
BlueMatt ;) [02:27]
Cusipzzz or lose, in your case [02:27]
BlueMatt well, yes [02:28]
BTC_Bear Wait, is this a trick to get BIP 18 ? lol [02:28]
BlueMatt ? [02:28]
Cusipzzz BlueMatt: still time for your panic...but just don't see it... now if unix/bitcoind was hacked, diff story :) [02:28]
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rawrmage no alert message? [02:31]
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rawrmage pssssshhhhh [02:31]
BlueMatt soon [02:32]
Staatsfeind BlueMatt: Really? [02:32]
BTC_Bear Cusipzzz: Yea, sort of like saying: Warning there is a Windows Vulnerability. But effort to protect people is always appreciated. [02:32]
eph_ ;;eauth eph_ [02:33]
gribble Request successful for user eph_, hostmask eph_!~eph@modemcable082.251-20-96.mc.videotron.ca. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6A08543D8E321285 [02:33]
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BlueMatt Staatsfeind: no, gavin pgp signed a message saying that for fun... [02:33]
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splatster Sorry about pebbles, my internet went down. [02:33]
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Cusipzzz BlueMatt: figured you had something, but also liked the fact sunday night/monday morning, lots of fresh cash hits gox, lol [02:33]
splatster .isdown bitcoin.org [02:33]
Cusipzzz monday morning in japan [02:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [02:33]
Staatsfeind I don't see how one of those events could imply the other. :/ [02:33]
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Mad7Scientist gmaxwell, remote exploit? [02:35]
Staatsfeind Mad7Scientist: See the thread. [02:35]
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gmaxwell Mad7Scientist: There is no known 'exploit' currently. But the nature of the bug makes it hard to be sure there isn't one. [02:36]
gmaxwell (er rather that one isn't possible) [02:36]
Mad7Scientist someone could be writing one right now [02:36]
Staatsfeind Yes, that's possible. [02:36]
Mad7Scientist They could steal thousands of wallets in a matter of seconds [02:36]
Mad7Scientist once the exploit is working [02:37]
Staatsfeind If you run on Windows, get that fixed. [02:37]
splatster Grrr. My FTP client sucks ass. [02:37]
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BlueMatt if you run bitcoin-qt on windows, stop your node now,and go update [02:37]
gmaxwell Mad7Scientist: This is also why we haven't been very specific about the details of the problem. [02:37]
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Judgement51 anyone selling bitcoins for moneypak? [02:37]
loktigon- we must protect the coin [02:38]
splatster Introducing the .isdown module for pebbles! [02:38]
gmaxwell Mad7Scientist: I would ask that if any of you smart people figure it out that you be quite about it for a few days while people upgrade. [02:38]
splatster .isdown bitcoin.org [02:38]
BlueMatt bitcoin.org/critfix [02:38]
splatster FFS [02:38]
loktigon- will there be an alert [02:38]
Mad7Scientist Does non-executable memory make this non exploitable? [02:38]
BlueMatt yes [02:38]
BlueMatt loktigon-: yes, one is in the works [02:38]
Elio19 I'm selling BTC for Paxum USD. [02:38]
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BlueMatt Mad7Scientist: so far we dont know that it is exploitable [02:38]
gmaxwell Mad7Scientist: We don't currently have any evidence that it's exploitable at all. [02:38]
gmaxwell The character of the issue makes it hard to tell. We're taking a cautious approach. [02:39]
BlueMatt in fact, I dont think it is, but as gmaxwell put it "the nature of the issue makes it very hard to tell" [02:39]
loktigon- were doomed [02:39]
Mad7Scientist Windows users are doomed [02:39]
loktigon- haha j/k [02:39]
BlueMatt or you just upgrade your clients and quietly move on [02:39]
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Mad7Scientist If someone found a bitcoind exploit we would be doomed [02:39]
Staatsfeind [02:40]
Mad7Scientist they could steal all the wallets of everyone connected to the network [02:40]
BlueMatt the "good guys" caught it before we think anyone else knew about it, so we should be fine [02:40]
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splatster If this doesn't work I'm going to kill someone. [02:40]
splatster .isdown bitcoin.org [02:40]
pebbles splatster: http://bitcoin.org Is Up [02:40]
splatster Oh thank god. [02:40]
* Mad7Scientist kills splatster just to make sure [02:40]
Staatsfeind Mad7Scientist: Not everyone connected to the network runs bitcoin-qt on Windows. :þ [02:40]
splatster Re-introducing the .isdown module for pebbles! [02:40]
loktigon- time to use my fake passport to escape to sealand [02:41]
Mad7Scientist If it was a bitcoind/backend exploit [02:41]
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* Mad7Scientist quickly dumps all his coins [02:41]
Mad7Scientist Selling bitcoins for PayPal USD $5.50 each [02:41]
luke-jr Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [02:42]
Staatsfeind 20:41 * Mad7Scientist quickly dumps all his coins ← Any you don't want, you can just send to 18jCTGwKCmrhe3xg8iVez9XpgDVL7iQULB. [02:43]
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Staatsfeind luke-jr: Hey, can we get another person in here telling everyone about bitcoin-qt on Windows? [02:43]
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gmaxwell Staatsfeind: I'm actually going to be repeating it automatically once an hour or so. [02:44]
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Mad7Scientist I knew tihs would happen [02:44]
Mad7Scientist A working cross platform bitcoin exploit could ruin the whole system [02:44]
Staatsfeind gmaxwell: Yeah, one person repeating it hourly is fine. It just looks like you may not be the only one with that idea. ;) [02:44]
Mad7Scientist In fact what if there was a > 51% attack [02:45]
Mad7Scientist Anyway does anyone want to buy? [02:45]
Mad7Scientist Selling bitcoins for PayPal USD $5.50 each [02:45]
gmaxwell Mad7Scientist: relax. The design of the software is very paranoid. The odds are pretty good this isn't actually exploitable. [02:45]
Staatsfeind What if there was no gravity? [02:45]
splatster Staatsfeind: After 15 minutes of coding, an hour of AFKing, and some more debugging, that command is finally finished. [02:45]
Staatsfeind lrn2subjunctive [02:45]
Cusipzzz still 3 hrs for BlueMatt's panic.. but nobody rly cares about windows bugs [02:45]
Staatsfeind splatster: OK. How much I care has not changed. [02:46]
BlueMatt Cusipzzz: clearly, oh well I was hoping someone would sell... [02:46]
BlueMatt s/hoping/thinking/ [02:46]
Cusipzzz BlueMatt: next time i guess [02:46]
BlueMatt yep [02:46]
Mad7Scientist Make the bitcoin program work on windows 98 too while you're at fixing it :) [02:46]
mcorlett Staatsfeind: Are you always this friendly? [02:46]
BlueMatt Mad7Scientist: there is a history of that one... [02:46]
BlueMatt long story, but thats not gonna happen [02:46]
Staatsfeind mcorlett: Don't talk at me. [02:47]
mcorlett You are free not to respond, and I am equally free to ask. [02:48]
* Mad7Scientist talks at everybody [02:48]
Mad7Scientist hey Santorum blow up already [02:48]
* gribble gives voice to pigeons [02:48]
Staatsfeind No, you're not. You're an asshole and I can't ignore anyone in this channel. [02:49]
Mad7Scientist somebody buy my coins [02:49]
Mad7Scientist please ignore each other [02:49]
eph_ hey all, i got a question : even though i everify successfully the ;;whois command still gives me eph (~eph@modemcable082.251-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) has been on server adams.freenode.net since 05:30 PM, March 16, 2012 (idle for 0 seconds) and is on #bitcoin-otc. no mentionning of my key whatsoever. Is there something i did wrong? [02:49]
Mad7Scientist use ;;ident [02:49]
Staatsfeind Mad7Scientist: As I said, I *can't* ignore him in *this* channel. [02:49]
mcorlett I'm not free to ask questions? [02:49]
pigeons eph_: nickserv is seperat efrom gribble and -otc authentication [02:49]
pigeons ;;ident eph_ [02:50]
gribble Nick 'eph_', with hostmask 'eph_!~eph@modemcable082.251-20-96.mc.videotron.ca', is identified as user eph_, with GPG key id 6A08543D8E321285, and key fingerprint 2537A607C4DF6075038EEBA06A08543D8E321285. [02:50]
Zarutian mcorlett: no, you are bound to ask one eventually [02:50]
Staatsfeind You are not free to be a dick without consequences. [02:50]
Staatsfeind Now, drop it. [02:50]
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* CaptainDDL sees the banana-hammer lurking out of sight [02:50]
splatster the fuck? [02:50]
eph_ great, thanks [02:50]
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mcorlett splatster: OK. How much I care has not changed. <-- Dick or not? You decide. [02:51]
CaptainDDL .isdown bitcoin.org [02:51]
mcorlett We can end on that note. [02:51]
Staatsfeind mcorlett: Fucking drop it. [02:51]
splatster mcorlett: Drop it. [02:51]
splatster Staatsfeind is entitled to his opinion, I can't make him give a shit about anything. [02:52]
Mad7Scientist Raccoon, can you change it so it does another saying to a different political candidate? [02:52]
mcorlett splatster: I apologize. [02:52]
Raccoon Mad7Scientist: disabled in -otc. [02:52]
splatster And if he doesn't give a shit, he is entitle to his right to freely speak and say so. [02:52]
splatster entitled* [02:52]
Raccoon aww, what drama did i miss? [02:53]
* Raccoon is part of the LOST Drama Initiative [02:53]
splatster Raccoon: mcorlett is butting into shit he isn't part of. [02:53]
Zarutian Raccoon: better if it is never found, eh? [02:53]
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eph_ ;;help rate [02:57]
gribble (rate []) -- Enters a rating for in the amount of . Use optional field to enter any notes you have about this user. must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten. [02:57]
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BlueMatt is anyone capable of translating the info on bitcoin.org/critfix to any semi-popular languages? [02:59]
ternit i could try Polish [03:00]
mcorlett BlueMatt: Have you asked tcatm for help with German? [03:00]
BlueMatt anything readable helps [03:00]
BlueMatt mcorlett: I havent been able to ping tcatm for a few hours, I guess he has a life... [03:00]
BlueMatt damn [03:00]
weex i would start with google translate, while getting humans [03:01]
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BTC_Bear When I think of language guru only one name comes to mind. Hmm... wonder who? [03:04]
weex That one guy who was in that thing? [03:05]
BTC_Bear Yea, that guy. [03:05]
weex rg? [03:06]
BTC_Bear lol [03:06]
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weex o/ for hot spicy pizza [03:07]
BTC_Bear Irony, have a Pizza on the way. Go figure. [03:07]
ternit BlueMatt i got that polish translation ready for you [03:09]
ternit can i pm it to you [03:09]
BlueMatt sure, pastebin, pm, whatever [03:09]
ternit only prob is it doesnt have special characters a sim abroad [03:09]
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draco49 Hey I don't know if you guys have heard, but there's a potential security flaw in the Windows ver of the qt client. I think there's an upgrade... [03:15]
rawrmage lol [03:16]
Staatsfeind BlueMatt: Here's a Spanish version: http://pastebin.com/Sj81xeK0 [03:16]
draco49 :P [03:16]
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BlueMatt Staatsfeind: thanks, Ill get that up [03:16]
danieldaniel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM19ulV_C9w [03:17]
Elio19 ;;getrating JohnGlas [03:17]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [03:17]
danieldaniel LMAO [03:17]
danieldaniel its censored [03:17]
danieldaniel and >3/4 words are censored [03:17]
draco49 Staatsfeind, your Spanish is very good. [03:17]
Staatsfeind Not really. It's good enough to get the point across, though. :) [03:18]
draco49 Well I was able to read it and I don't even speak Spanish. [03:19]
Staatsfeind lol [03:19]
draco49 That's when you know you're a language ninja... [03:19]
Staatsfeind I'm sure someone else can do a better job at that translation but that's a quick and dirty one. [03:20]
neofutur ha sido descubierto -> ha sido descubierta [03:20]
Elio19 How do i ask gribble to pass a message to a user when he logs in? I tried using "tell" and gribble told me to do the telling :-) [03:20]
draco49 In Spanish? [03:20]
mcorlett Elio19: ;;later tell [03:21]
neofutur no son afectados -> no son afectadas [03:21]
BlueMatt Im not gonna keep up with that, someone link me updated pastebins as it changes [03:21]
neofutur no veo nada mas [03:21]
Elio19 Thank you mcorlett. [03:21]
neofutur BlueMatt: ¡ [03:21]
draco49 I guess you made some mistakes in gender... [03:21]
Staatsfeind neofutur: Yeah. [03:22]
* Staatsfeind smacks himself. [03:22]
neofutur ;) [03:22]
Elio19 Gribble's later command is not documented with gribble bot help/list system [03:22]
neofutur but I m not native either, I could have missed something too [03:22]
BlueMatt meh, decent >> nothing [03:22]
BlueMatt s/decent/good enough/ [03:22]
draco49 Honestly tho, are there any non-Engish speaking people in the Bitcoin community who don't know about google translate? [03:23]
Staatsfeind BlueMatt: Well, seriously, though, that mistake's not cool. [03:23]
BlueMatt heh, sorry [03:24]
Staatsfeind neofutur: Fais-tu la traduction française ? [03:24]
BlueMatt Im switching back and forth between pms and chans to quick to get together translations to pay attention to details like that atm... [03:24]
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splatster Cya'll in a few hours. [03:25]
BlueMatt how do you spell spanish in spanish [03:26]
BlueMatt ? [03:26]
draco49 This is the important part: "actualizar a la versión 0.5.3.1 o 0.6rc4 AHORA" [03:26]
ternit espaniol or something like that [03:27]
neofutur Staatsfeind: si besoin oui [03:27]
Staatsfeind BlueMatt: español [03:27]
neofutur I thought the french would already be there [03:27]
bitcoin-otc-uk has anybody heard of bitcoin wallet saying in an attempt to transfer one bitcoin to another address [03:27]
bitcoin-otc-uk , it said that I have exceeded the limit and will be fined a fee of .0005 bit coin [03:27]
draco49 yes [03:28]
bitcoin-otc-uk so that is true? [03:28]
draco49 you can change that in your settings, or use the bitcoind daemon [03:28]
mcorlett bitcoin-otc-uk: It's not a fine. It's an optional fee enforced only on the client level. [03:28]
bitcoin-otc-uk Thank you draco49 [03:28]
bitcoin-otc-uk Thank you mcorlett [03:29]
luke-jr Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [03:30]
draco49 np... in the GUI, I believe the client does not give you the option of declining the fee if your transaction is over 1kb [03:30]
pigeons bitcoin-otc-uk: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fee [03:30]
luke-jr draco49: it never has [03:30]
bitcoin-otc-uk Thanks pigeons [03:31]
draco49 I didn't think so... I was talking to bitcoin-otc-uk [03:31]
luke-jr draco49: because if a transaction doesn't get accepted, it's basically impossible to recover right now [03:31]
draco49 I am all for paying the small transaction fee. I think that as the mining reward decreases, those fees will help offset any decreased incentive for miners to continue operating. [03:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [03:33]
draco49 Also, I appreciate having my transactions confirmed in a timely manner. [03:34]
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Judgement51 anyone able to trade me some coins for moneypak? [03:39]
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diacetyl Trying to sell [03:42]
diacetyl 1,000$ MP for bitcoins [03:42]
luke-jr diacetyl: I'll offer 40 BTC for it [03:43]
mcorlett 41 [03:43]
luke-jr mcorlett: cheapskate [03:44]
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BTCHero lol [03:45]
draco49 I was just gonna offer $42 [03:45]
draco49 damn [03:45]
mcorlett luke-jr: I've been waiting for this occasion. [03:47]
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BTCHero ;;sell 11 btc @ {mtgoxlast} PPUSD Must have traded paypal with me before, or be an OP or something like that [03:47]
gribble Order id 7261 created. [03:47]
BTCHero ;;view [03:47]
gribble #7261 Fri Mar 16 18:47:28 2012 BTCHero SELL 11.0 btc @ 5.35 PPUSD (Must have traded paypal with me before, or be an OP or something like that) [03:47]
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danieldaniel Sooooo [03:48]
draco49 it's danieldaniel [03:48]
danieldaniel anyone wanna an slr? [03:48]
danieldaniel draco49: OMG [03:48]
BTCHero danieldaniel is it 75% off? [03:48]
BTCHero at least? [03:48]
danieldaniel BTCHero: 25% off [03:49]
danieldaniel or 50% [03:49]
Judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for a moneypak? [03:49]
* smickles is writing this python function... [03:49]
danieldaniel and i could sell for paypal, as well as btc [03:49]
smickles the function just doesn't look right [03:49]
smickles errors out and such [03:49]
* smickles looks closely at it [03:49]
draco49 what are you whippin up smickles ? [03:50]
* smickles see: derp thisFunction(self): insted of def thisFunction(self): [03:50]
draco49 that's pretty robust code... [03:50]
smickles that cracked me up [03:50]
rawrmage lol [03:52]
mircea_popescu o i see its the expert brigade [03:53]
draco49 hehe whatsup mircea_popescu [03:54]
mircea_popescu nothing much [03:54]
mircea_popescu went out a little, drank a little [03:54]
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draco49 nice... I enjoy vodka [03:55]
mircea_popescu me too [03:56]
mircea_popescu or an number of other things. the country drink is pretty decent too [03:56]
draco49 What is the country drink? [03:56]
mircea_popescu tuica [03:57]
mircea_popescu a high octane plum distilate [03:57]
rawrmage whut [03:58]
rawrmage don't drink octane [03:58]
draco49 ah, I had a Serbian friend whose family made that stuff. [03:58]
mircea_popescu lol it's a metaphore rawr [03:58]
draco49 That shit will make you go blind. [03:58]
mircea_popescu draco49 prolly weak. they drink it 52-54 degrees strong here. [03:58]
vragnaroda rawrmage: That reminds me of a line from October Sky. [03:58]
mircea_popescu but no, it's actually the friendliest of alcohols. [03:58]
mircea_popescu you don't even get a hangover from it. just a little mellow [03:59]
abracadabra erhm [03:59]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Huh? What do you mean 52-54 degrees strong? [03:59]
abracadabra slivovitz [03:59]
abracadabra ? [03:59]
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abracadabra isn't slivovitz plum liquor? [03:59]
mircea_popescu as in, most alcohol is sold 30-40% [03:59]
mircea_popescu this is 52ish [03:59]
mircea_popescu and yes abracadabra, something similar. [03:59]
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abracadabra ouzo ftw [03:59]
abracadabra :) [03:59]
draco49 Well the stuff my friend had was like fire and was probably around the 130-150 proof mark. [04:00]
mircea_popescu a ok, then it sounds about right [04:00]
mircea_popescu i remember taking some to the us [04:01]
draco49 I can't remember what he called it... I think it started with a Y [04:01]
mircea_popescu emtpied out a 2l sprite bottle, filled it with the stuff [04:01]
mircea_popescu the border patrol guy was like... so what's in here ? alcohol i say. o, like moonshine ? [04:01]
mircea_popescu no, not like moonshine. this is actually strong. [04:01]
draco49 moonshine is pretty damn strong too [04:01]
draco49 white lightning [04:02]
mircea_popescu i know was just messing with him [04:02]
draco49 I like Everclear. [04:02]
rawrmage lol [04:02]
mircea_popescu isn't that window cleanner ? [04:02]
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abracadabra paint remover [04:02]
draco49 It's like vodka+ [04:02]
rawrmage everclear is just I think 96% v/v ethanol/water [04:03]
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draco49 ya it's near 100% [04:03]
draco49 it's not bad with a splash of club soda and a lime. [04:03]
rawrmage haha [04:04]
rawrmage i seriously couldn't imagine drinking that for fun :P [04:04]
draco49 It definitely get's you from A to B real quick :) [04:04]
mircea_popescu yea cause you can't really distil alcohol to 100% [04:04]
tester45 whats a better way to check spot than mtgoxlive.com, since that site makes my computer cry out in pain [04:04]
rawrmage i'd imagine lol [04:04]
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mircea_popescu tester45 try bitcoincharts.com ? [04:04]
tester45 something autoupdating [04:04]
tester45 ? [04:04]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: you can azeotropically distill with another solvent like benzene [04:04]
rawrmage but then you get traces of benzene or whatever you use [04:05]
mircea_popescu well i guess but then drinking it becomes problematic [04:05]
mircea_popescu yes [04:05]
rawrmage and that's not good to drinks [04:05]
rawrmage yea [04:05]
draco49 I kinda don't wanna drink benzene... [04:05]
rawrmage or just dry with mol sieves/mgso4/whatever [04:05]
rawrmage no you don't it's carcinogenic [04:05]
mircea_popescu or construct a semipermeable membrane and just let it filter through osmosis :D [04:05]
AcidicChip Anyone wanna buy a neatdesk for BTC? [04:05]
draco49 I don't mind the grain alcohol, but benzene .... nope. [04:06]
draco49 what version? [04:06]
rawrmage do you mind methanol? ;) [04:06]
draco49 lol [04:06]
AcidicChip If anyone wants to buy a NeatDesk for BTC, this is the one I'm selling http://www.ebay.com/itm/270937094032 [04:06]
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rawrmage draco49: you know, the antidote to methanol poisoning is ethanol! ;) [04:07]
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draco49 Yep [04:08]
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dwon ;;rate topace 6 He operates https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ through which I've purchased over $3000 in BTC. [04:08]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 6 for user topace has been recorded. [04:08]
draco49 ethanol is a panacea of sorts... it's the antidote for lots of things :) [04:08]
mircea_popescu hey, cool. [04:09]
dirkdizzler mmmmm mainline ethanol [04:09]
mircea_popescu didnt even know that existed [04:09]
draco49 wow dwon , way to be a shill [04:09]
rawrmage dirkdizzler: lolno [04:09]
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dwon draco49: Whatever, he deserves it. [04:09]
draco49 a friggin 6?! [04:10]
draco49 It's shit like that that's corrupting the WOT [04:10]
BlueMatt if you have further translations, see sipa [04:10]
loktigon im chillaxin up in here [04:10]
dwon draco49: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System [04:10]
dwon draco49: 5 is "You've had a number of good transactions with this person. " [04:11]
dwon draco49: 8 is "Large number of high-value transactions, long period of association, very trustworthy." [04:11]
dwon so 6 is about right [04:11]
draco49 whatevs [04:11]
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dirkdizzler i'll give 10's for nudes [04:11]
draco49 lol [04:12]
AcidicChip Also selling an iPhone 4/4S ultra-thin slide-out bluetooth keyboard (http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/ea6d/?srp=1) for 5btc + shipping [04:12]
draco49 AcidicChip, you should put that up in #bitcoin-auctions [04:13]
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AcidicChip Meh, too ceahp to auction [04:13]
AcidicChip cheap, too [04:13]
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AcidicChip the neatdesk I could prolly take to auctions, but I doubt there's a large enough interest in it [04:13]
draco49 jus sayin.. [04:13]
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* AcidicChip nods [04:14]
AcidicChip I might give it a shot tomorrow when I'm not so lazy, lol [04:14]
draco49 that channel is run by a bot [04:14]
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mircea_popescu well a 6 for 3k comes to about $500 per point. there's prolly cheaper points than that in thr wot. [04:16]
Judgement51 anyone willing to trade me coins for moneypak? [04:16]
draco49 I'm getting mad watching GoxLive. Who are these low-ball sellers that are willing to sell at $5.33? They need to raise their expectations. [04:17]
abracadabra ;;getrating Judgement51 [04:17]
gribble User Judgement51, created on Sat Nov 5 20:05:33 2011. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Judgement51 Currently not authenticated. [04:17]
rawrmage draco49: haha [04:17]
draco49 It seems so simple to me... blue line, move to the right. [04:18]
mircea_popescu http://dienekes.blogspot.de/2012/03/neandertaldenisovan-admixture-using-pca.html << as racist as it gets [04:18]
mircea_popescu actually draco49 we might end up with a run-up to 6ish [04:19]
mod6 ;;asks 6 [04:19]
gribble There are currently 68538.906 bitcoins offered at or under 6.0 USD, worth 387947.511826 USD in total. [04:19]
mircea_popescu (bear in mind these may be 9x% imaginary asks) [04:21]
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spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone ? [04:31]
mircea_popescu also, people, don't forget to buy options! [04:32]
mircea_popescu from the forums "I'm working on a concept for a Bitcoin exchange that works exactly like a regular exchange, but without real money or real bitcoins." [04:33]
mircea_popescu this sounds about right. [04:33]
draco49 lmao [04:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [04:33]
draco49 He got a great idea for a testnet exchange. Genius. [04:34]
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Joric draco49, testcoins are rather expensive ) [04:34]
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draco49 Probably cheaper to use Litecoins... but wait, they already have that. Fail :( [04:35]
Joric i tried testnet-in-a-box though it's fun to mine with difficulty 0.25 [04:35]
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draco49 I didn't realize the difficulty was that low on the testnet chain. [04:36]
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mircea_popescu i didn't realise it was that high [04:36]
mircea_popescu wtf, testnet. should be 1000:1 [04:36]
Joric lol [04:36]
Joric the real is 1498294 now [04:37]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone ? [04:37]
Joric tiab is 0.25 [04:37]
mircea_popescu o [04:37]
Joric its absolute values not relative values [04:37]
mircea_popescu o lol [04:37]
mircea_popescu haha. okies. [04:37]
spawn- ;;voiceme [04:37]
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mircea_popescu well im off. take care of the bitcoins folks! [04:39]
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spawn- gnyt mircea_popescu :) [04:39]
rawrmage i'll take care of your for you mircea_popescu [04:39]
rawrmage and sleep well [04:39]
draco49 l8r [04:39]
spawn- whats up draco49 :) good morning [04:39]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc [12:58]
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rg mircea [12:59]
mircea_popescu sup [12:59]
rg whats romanian currency called [12:59]
mircea_popescu leu lei for plural [12:59]
mircea_popescu RON standard iso symbol [12:59]
Dark_Apostrophe Is your name pronounced "Mercy"? [12:59]
rg RON ok thats what im lookin for [12:59]
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rg btc sek [12:59]
rg BTC Trading MTGOX on SEK: Last Trade: 35.551 Best Bid: 35.831 Best Ask: 37.004 Trade Time: 1 day, 19 hrs ago [12:59]
rg btc RON [12:59]
rg BTC Trading MTGOX on RON: [12:59]
rg haha [12:59]
rg theres no romanian btc monies [12:59]
mircea_popescu do not confuse with ROL which was old denomination. 10k rol = 1 ron [12:59]
mircea_popescu o im not surprised. [13:00]
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fornax ;;ticker [13:06]
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mircea_popescu "I have a few credit/debit cards, and I want to buy BTC quickly, what would be my best course of action to do so? Any reputable sites accept credit/debit?" [13:08]
mircea_popescu lolz [13:08]
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rg mary poppins [13:13]
rg is romania living in the past? [13:13]
rg i watched a show called 'No Reservations' and they wouldnt let them film in romania [13:13]
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rg they had the permis and everything [13:13]
rg but the cops/staff tried to charge them more [13:14]
rg so they said fuck it [13:14]
rg and left [13:14]
rg clearly just poor people trying to get more money [13:14]
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rg i want breakfast.. [13:25]
rg but i dont want to go alone [13:25]
bitcoinTrader where? [13:26]
rg up the street [13:26]
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rg ill probably end up making something non breakfast related [13:27]
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rg mcorlett: lol. [13:32]
androSnake hi, hase anyone BTC to sell, i have Neteller and Paysafecard euro [13:32]
something1234__ anyone wanna sell 1 btc using paypal? :) [13:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [13:33]
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rg something1234__: ill do it [13:36]
rg ;;ident something1234__ [13:36]
rg however if you plan on doing more trading you should really consider signing up [13:37]
androSnake is it better to sign up rg ? [13:39]
androSnake can u tell me where i can register me for the tradings ? [13:39]
rg andro [13:39]
rg ;;tell androSnake [guide] [13:39]
rg read that [13:39]
androSnake ok thank you [13:40]
androSnake its a really nice bot, never seen a beginnerfriendly channel and community liek this :) [13:40]
androSnake thank you [13:40]
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mircea_popescu yw. [13:44]
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rg wow [13:45]
rg i took a risk and didnt get ripped off [13:45]
rg ;;ticker [13:46]
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rg ;;calc 40 * 5.35 [13:46]
bitcoinTrader rg: what risk? [13:46]
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rg i traded with an unauthorized newbie [13:47]
rg with paypal [13:47]
rg and i sent first [13:47]
bitcoinTrader how many? [13:47]
something1234__ :D [13:47]
subpar ;;roulette [13:47]
rg 1 whole bitcoin [13:47]
subpar heh [13:47]
subpar ahh [13:47]
subpar 1 BTC [13:47]
rg ;;calc 40 * 6 [13:47]
gribble 240 [13:47]
something1234__ well your choise if u sent first, i would have done it anyway coz u have good rating [13:47]
something1234__ :p [13:47]
rg hehe [13:47]
rg i had a good feeling about you [13:47]
subpar I should trade here more often - but mtgox is just too easy for offloading BTC [13:48]
rg subpar, yeah but mtgox is the devil [13:48]
something1234__ client still synchronizing with network, i guess i'll see those btc sometime after this is done.. :d [13:48]
subpar perhaps [13:48]
subpar solved my p[roblems with PPUSD though [13:48]
rg something: yeah [13:49]
rg you can download the whole blockchain if you want [13:49]
rg without waiting [13:49]
subpar rg: where? [13:49]
pigeons http://eu1.bitcoincharts.com/blockchain/ [13:49]
rg ^ that [13:50]
subpar heh [13:50]
subpar wonder if they have a US server [13:50]
subpar subbing www no works [13:50]
mcorlett tcatm: ^ [13:51]
pigeons i was just reading above, and its funny how some people have a good experience and comment on how helpful the channel is, and some people come in and make an ass of themselves and complain that everything is too hard and everyone is mean. [13:51]
rg yeah [13:51]
rg im gonna host a mirror [13:51]
rg i already asked [13:51]
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rg i just havent figured a good way to mirror it yet [13:51]
subpar I end up keeping a second windows client (primnary is bitcoind) in case something gets corrupted [13:52]
tcatm rg: Can the host run bitcoind? [13:52]
subpar to avoid having to re-download now that it is well over 1.5Gb [13:52]
rg tcatm, it does right now [13:52]
rg do you have a simple script? [13:52]
mcorlett Doing it that way loses the ability to verify the signatures. You'd have to use your own. [13:52]
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rg mcorlett: which way? [13:53]
tcatm rg: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=btLCm6Mr [13:53]
rg god damn you firefox nightly [13:53]
rg you are very annoying to me. [13:53]
pigeons yes don't download the blockchain from someone you don't absolutely trust with your money [13:53]
rg well i trust tcatm [13:54]
rg and most people trust me [13:54]
mcorlett rg: If you run your own script, the signatures will no longer be tcatm's. [13:54]
mcorlett I'd prefer it if it was an actual mirror. [13:54]
rg ah, yeah thats what i was thinking [13:54]
rg that way you can verify the sig [13:54]
rg on tcatm [13:54]
rg and mine [13:54]
mcorlett tcatm: Run rsync, and rg can just download the deltas that change from day to day. Minimal bandwith hit. [13:55]
tcatm It's one new file per day. Old files do never change. [13:56]
mcorlett I don't think you understand. When a new file is pushed to the directory, rg requests only the deltas (the changed bytes), because he already has yesterday's archive. [13:57]
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tcatm I'm pretty sure I understand rsync :) [13:59]
subpar heh [13:59]
tcatm A script like wget --mirror -c eu1...blockchain should work well enough [13:59]
rg well heres teh thing about wget --mirror [14:01]
rg it will attempt to download all the files again [14:01]
rg instead of just the new one [14:01]
rg what i will do.. [14:01]
rg is use the same filename generation scheme as you [14:01]
mcorlett --no-clobber [14:01]
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rg that way, it will already know what its meant to get [14:02]
rg tcatm: what time is your new blockchain generated? [14:02]
rg time / timezone [14:03]
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rg hrm lets see [14:03]
rg i have multiple gigabit boxes to mirror it from [14:03]
rg but only one of the DC's has v6 [14:03]
tcatm rg: around midnight UTC [14:04]
rg tcatm: how much v6 traffic are you seeing? [14:04]
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tcatm 60kbit/s average [14:06]
rg ok cool so a v6 mirror would worth it [14:07]
rg lets think of a cool hostname [14:07]
rg blockchain.bitvps.com ? [14:08]
mcorlett "cool" [14:08]
rg cool.bitvps.com [14:08]
mcorlett Better! [14:08]
rg us1.blockchain.bitvps.com [14:08]
rg just like tcatm [14:08]
subpar fsckingbadassdopemirrorofblockchain.bitvps.com ? [14:09]
subpar nah [14:09]
subpar ;) [14:09]
mcorlett us1.bitvps.com/blockchain if you were to strictly adhere to tcatm's scheme [14:09]
* subpar nods [14:09]
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rg it will be /blockchain [14:10]
rg us1.blockchain.bitvps.com/blockchain [14:10]
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rg i demand people type blockchain twie. [14:11]
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rg hrm [14:11]
rg i just noticed vmbr0 doesnt have a v6 IP [14:11]
rg weird [14:11]
snoarlax ;;guide [14:12]
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rg can someone ping6 2607:ff50:0:c::5 [14:14]
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rg ? [14:14]
rg nm [14:15]
rg found a website with it [14:15]
sneak rg: works [14:15]
sneak round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 131.729/131.966/132.204/0.238 ms [14:15]
bitcoinTrader selling btc for paypal… trusted members [14:17]
rg cheers [14:18]
rg thanks sneak [14:18]
rg tcatm: im wondering [14:19]
rg is the blockchain already compressed? [14:19]
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rg i see its tar'd, not bzip2'd, is that cause its already compressed? [14:19]
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rg lol ok i wrote a hacky script to do it [14:24]
rg perfect [14:24]
rg ok [14:29]
rg starting mirror [14:29]
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mcorlett "You don't have permission to access /blockchain/ on this server." [14:31]
rg uh huh [14:31]
mcorlett There you go! [14:31]
rg i had -indexes [14:31]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [14:33]
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rg doh [14:36]
rg its not listening on v6 [14:36]
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rg there we go [14:39]
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StackMe hello, bitcoinians! [14:44]
coingenuity sup StackMe [14:45]
StackMe wow this is easy a click and im in [14:45]
StackMe first of all let me speak out my heartfelt respect to all you degenerates that refuse to conform and are effectively sticking your middle into the air and waving it at the megabanks [14:46]
StackMe finger [14:47]
rg i dont think degenerate is the best word. [14:47]
StackMe I mean thats probably what someone from the german economic institute would call you [14:47]
StackMe they are really worried about this:-) [14:47]
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StackMe how about radical free marketeers? [14:48]
Graet hehe hi StackMe [14:49]
StackMe hello! [14:49]
bitcoin-otc-uk Hi Graet [14:49]
Graet hey bitcoin-otc-uk :) [14:50]
bitcoin-otc-uk How are you Graet? [14:50]
StackMe listen people I would really like to get my hands on some bitcoins asap, my only problem is I live in germany and it seems like it will take about one and a half weeks if I do it over mt.gox and co [14:50]
StackMe I just need a couple for starters but i am planning on coming back [14:50]
Graet good thanls bitcoin-otc-uk , yourself? [14:51]
StackMe 5-20 bcoins and i could offer paysafecard, anything i can get at a gas station basically, poker money on stars or party (or FT i think) [14:51]
StackMe I will also happily pay first if dealer is reputable [14:52]
bitcoin-otc-uk good thankyou Graet [14:52]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe try https://www.bitinstant.com/ [14:52]
bitcoin-otc-uk may help [14:53]
StackMe I am new here so anyone that helps me out definitely gets my gratitude and ill pay some vig for the first transaction [14:53]
StackMe Thx BC-otc.uk, but that looks like the usual methods, amiright? [14:53]
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bitcoin-otc-uk it is much quicker [14:54]
StackMe but dont i still need to use my bank account to purchase the Bitcoins? [14:55]
StackMe My bank always hold onto money for days because they are "working" with it [14:55]
StackMe or can i go to a bank and deposit directly onto an account? [14:56]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe did you say you like poker? [14:56]
StackMe yeah I play but I sure cant live off it! [14:56]
StackMe there are poker sites offering BC as well, arent there? [14:56]
bitcoin-otc-uk https://www.switchpoker.com/ [14:57]
bitcoin-otc-uk good site [14:57]
BTCHero StackMe you could always use WU [14:57]
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StackMe Wow! poker for the mobile with bitcoins! nice [14:58]
bitcoin-otc-uk go to your a bank and deposit directly [14:58]
StackMe so can i cash out in bitcoins and pay in with €? [14:58]
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StackMe @btchero whats WU? [14:58]
BTCHero Western Union [14:59]
StackMe oh fk of course [14:59]
bitcoin-otc-uk go to a bank and deposit directly with https://www.bitinstant.com/ [14:59]
StackMe thats what i just wanted to ask [14:59]
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StackMe so I would click on bank deposit at bitinstant.com, fill out the rest and then just go to my bank with the information and fill out a slip there? [15:01]
bitcoin-otc-uk yes [15:01]
snoarlax don't even need to fill out a slip there I don't think, just need to print it out [15:01]
bitcoin-otc-uk they say it is instant [15:02]
bitcoin-otc-uk so they say [15:02]
StackMe that would be badass [15:02]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe job done [15:02]
snoarlax it needs to be a bank that supports TrustCash though I think [15:03]
StackMe Thank you very much I will come back and praise you all highly if this works [15:03]
bitcoin-otc-uk please check me a this channel #bitcoin-otc-uk [15:04]
StackMe sure [15:04]
bitcoin-otc-uk good luck [15:05]
StackMe thx a lot brah [15:05]
bitcoin-otc-uk np [15:05]
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StackMe Am i missing something here or can one only deposit $ from the US at bitinstant.com? [15:10]
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cheebydi wtb 16 BTC PPEUR/PPUSD [15:12]
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bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe click my name [15:13]
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StackMe nothings happpening [15:14]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe were are you from? [15:15]
StackMe im IN germany:-) [15:15]
StackMe I thought i mentioned that [15:15]
Sarajevo dear god, bitcoin has been synchronising all fucken day [15:15]
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Sarajevo and it's getting slower and slower [15:15]
StackMe whats that mean its been synching all day? [15:16]
Sarajevo synchin with network [15:16]
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StackMe like catching up with what bc is where? [15:17]
Sarajevo yea [15:17]
Sarajevo that's rite man [15:17]
StackMe ahh.. [15:17]
Sarajevo i ran it first time today [15:17]
Sarajevo and it's been fucken synchin 10h straight [15:17]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe https://perfectmoney.com/business-partners.html [15:17]
bitcoin-otc-uk exchanges [15:18]
StackMe WOW dude [15:18]
StackMe I think I just creamed my pants this is what im looking for [15:18]
StackMe they have prepaid cards and everything [15:19]
Sarajevo StackMe, would u mind if I cleaned ur pants with my tongue [15:19]
StackMe lololol [15:20]
StackMe pervy fuckin serby [15:20]
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StackMe :-=) [15:20]
Sarajevo ;> [15:20]
StackMe seriously thank you so much dude if this is legit you just helped me a lot [15:21]
Sarajevo yup it is, you can see .ru references there, i doubt it's a fraud [15:21]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe if that dont work use wu [15:21]
StackMe Yeah i probably will but it looks pretty damn good. [15:22]
StackMe WU takes a lot of vig amiright? [15:22]
bitcoin-otc-uk and they have private bank tranfers [15:22]
cheebydi buying bitcoins, PPUSD or PPEUR [15:23]
bitcoin-otc-uk on them exchanges [15:23]
bitcoin-otc-uk WU is hard work yes [15:24]
bitcoin-otc-uk etc charges [15:24]
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bitcoin-otc-uk ;;ticker [15:25]
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snoarlax StackMe: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins [15:28]
snoarlax another useful list [15:28]
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StackMe thx Ive run into that one, but now ive got it bookmarked [15:29]
StackMe this german site bc-otc sent is fkin amazing if its legit [15:30]
rg my room mate started shaving his head [15:30]
rg the bathroom is covered in his hair [15:30]
rg literally covered [15:30]
vragnaroda So give him a fucking broom. [15:30]
snoarlax vacuum with brush attachment* [15:31]
rg vragnaroda [15:31]
rg i told him to clean it the first time [15:32]
rg he did [15:32]
rg i just took a shower and found a TON of hair on the bath mat [15:32]
rg which is disgusting [15:32]
bitcoin-otc-uk StackMe np [15:32]
vragnaroda [15:32]
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vragnaroda snoarlax: Vacuums are not ideal for cleaning up hair. [15:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [15:33]
vragnaroda gmaxwell: You don't say! [15:33]
vragnaroda ;) [15:33]
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kakobrekla i use 0.3.24beta [15:34]
kakobrekla lool [15:34]
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rg well [15:35]
rg if he had just shaved outside [15:35]
rg it wouldnt be an issue [15:35]
rg everyone who's lived here so far that shaved their head did it on the prch [15:35]
vragnaroda I wouldn't care if my roommate got hair all over the floor when he shaves his head. He gets hair all over the sink, though, and that pisses me off. [15:36]
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rg they do [15:39]
rg i clean the sink every time i shower [15:39]
rg i cant wait til i move [15:39]
rg this place is going to be a fucking mess [15:39]
rg i cant tell if theyre just lazy or dont clean cause they know i will [15:39]
rg i dont understand this [15:41]
rg the military is complaining that their drones cant fly far without refueling [15:41]
rg why dont they put some type of thing that spins and recharges a battery from spinning [15:41]
rg so the battery powers it fly and the spinny thing recharges it [15:41]
vragnaroda [15:42]
rg i mean obviously eventually itd run out [15:42]
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rg cause the spinny thing wont be able to charge it enough [15:42]
rg so if it uses solar + spinny thing + battery [15:42]
Dark_Apostrophe The rg Monologues [15:42]
rg i am the heart and soul of -otc [15:43]
snoarlax I'm guessing they think these things through pretty thoroughly rg [15:43]
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rg yeah [15:43]
rg obviously theres a problem with my idea [15:44]
rg or else theyd alreayd be doing it [15:44]
snoarlax I was under the impression they could stay in hte air for like 3 days at a time [15:44]
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rg im talking about remote areas [15:44]
coingenuity rg: it's called a flywheel [15:44]
rg there you go [15:44]
coingenuity and probably due to gyroscopics [15:44]
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rg however, i think spinny wheel is slightly more scientific. [15:44]
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snoarlax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle#Endurance [15:46]
snoarlax 336 hours... [15:46]
coingenuity ;;calc 336 / 24 [15:49]
gribble 14 [15:49]
coingenuity two weeks lol [15:50]
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cheeby buying 16 BTC PPUSD/PPEUR [15:57]
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imsaguy <+rg> why dont they put some type of thing that spins and recharges a battery from spinning ->> or just pull a NASA and use a radioactive decay to power the thing [15:59]
imsaguy it'd be aloft for years [15:59]
copumpkin spinning on something that can move freely can do weird things due to precession [16:00]
imsaguy the UAVs are relatively lightweight, the gyros would add significant weight, to the point where the power they are providing probably isn't enough to offset the power to fly them. [16:00]
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vragnaroda imsaguy: Well, clearly someone paid attention to his eighth-grade science class. Nerd. [16:08]
imsaguy vragnaroda: everything I learned, I learned from Star Trek. Make it so. [16:08]
imsaguy So say we all. [16:08]
rg im gonna go get some breakfast [16:09]
rg i suppose [16:09]
imsaguy copumpkin: they do use gyros on the spy plane cameras [16:09]
imsaguy so obviously, they like them. [16:09]
mircea_popescu cooking is probably the most valuable skill one can have. [16:09]
copumpkin well, gyros are flywheels are kind of different scales of spinniness [16:09]
imsaguy mircea_popescu: no, sexing. [16:09]
mircea_popescu i just made myself shrimp in bechamel with champignons and fusili [16:09]
mircea_popescu and i am... sated. [16:09]
copumpkin mircea_popescu is such a 1%er [16:09]
mircea_popescu what! [16:10]
imsaguy copumpkin: .1% [16:10]
* copumpkin shakes his head disapprovingly [16:10]
mircea_popescu dood, all the stuff cost maybe 50 bux together. [16:10]
copumpkin capitalist pig! [16:10]
imsaguy Happy Green River Day! [16:10]
copumpkin bourgeois scum! [16:10]
* abracadabra tries to remember what fusili and champignons are [16:10]
mircea_popescu omg teh haet ;/ [16:10]
copumpkin fusilli are a shape of pasta [16:10]
* abracadabra cheats and googles [16:10]
mircea_popescu pasta and mushrooms abracadabra [16:10]
copumpkin champgignon is the french word for mushroom :P [16:10]
abracadabra oh [16:10]
copumpkin -g [16:10]
vragnaroda Any Newfies in here? [16:10]
mircea_popescu no copumpkin you lout [16:10]
abracadabra why not say mushrooms? [16:11]
mircea_popescu champignons is a SORT of mushroom [16:11]
abracadabra :p [16:11]
vragnaroda If so, apologize for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit-bet_merger#Bit.E2.80.93bet_merger [16:11]
mircea_popescu it's like saying "why not say cogourd" since pumpkin is french for gourd... [16:11]
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copumpkin it's like how people say biscotti in english to mean italian cookies [16:11]
copumpkin or gelato to mean italian ice cream [16:11]
mircea_popescu omg. biscotti is a particular kind of! [16:12]
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imsaguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrogdFkNvE [16:12]
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copumpkin except that in italy, it's also the generic word for biscuit/cookie [16:12]
mircea_popescu well... [16:12]
vragnaroda Having a generic word for biscuit/cookie is stupid and evil. [16:12]
mircea_popescu +1. [16:12]
copumpkin well, biscuit means something very different outside of the US [16:12]
vragnaroda That's like having one word mean turd and delicacy. [16:12]
copumpkin that threw me off when I moved here [16:13]
imsaguy vragnaroda: sorta like the word fuck [16:13]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [16:13]
vragnaroda copumpkin: *the Americas and yes, for a *minority* of English speakers, cookies are biscuits. [16:13]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, i wonder where's my scottish butter BISCUITS [16:14]
vragnaroda Ugh, Canadians would be alright if we could teach them to spell. [16:14]
mircea_popescu Blame Ganada! [16:15]
copumpkin Can'tada [16:16]
vragnaroda lol [16:16]
mircea_popescu srsly tho, to my ear most canadians if asked say they're ganadians. [16:16]
imsaguy eh [16:17]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: There's a Brit in another channel that hates American (including Canadian) accents because of intervocalic alveolar flapping, because [ɾ] is, according to him, an allophone of /r/ (which is bullshit; [r] is a realization of [ɹ] in a very small minority of English accents). [16:18]
mircea_popescu im not hating on them, im sure it's my ear. [16:19]
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BTCHero ;;seen occulta [16:21]
gribble occulta was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: this is more your area i think http://www.thc.com/ [16:21]
mircea_popescu also it pleases me to announce today mpex gets book display. [16:22]
vragnaroda He said that ‘writing’ and ‘riding’ are homophones in accents with it (which they're not: [ɹʷaɪɾiŋ] and [ɻɐɪɾ̊iŋ]). [16:22]
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vragnaroda There are some accents with intervocalic alveolar flapping but no Canadian raising, but I think that's a minority. [16:23]
mircea_popescu umm, this guy isn'tenglish, he sounds cornish [16:25]
vragnaroda Huh? [16:26]
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mircea_popescu his impression that writing and riding are homophones isn't borne out by the theory he's english [16:26]
mircea_popescu as virtually all english speakers i know of hear these distinct [16:26]
mircea_popescu with the exception of cornwall people [16:26]
vragnaroda No, his claim was that in accents with flapping (i.e., not his), they were homophones. [16:27]
mircea_popescu o [16:27]
mircea_popescu um [16:27]
mircea_popescu wtf lol. no they're not. [16:27]
vragnaroda Distinguishing [ɾ] and [ɾ̊] can be difficult but the rest of it makes it pretty clear. [16:27]
mircea_popescu maybe he's trolling [16:27]
vragnaroda Well, to him, they're [ɹʷɒɪtʰiŋ] and [ɹʷɒɪdiŋ]. [16:28]
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vragnaroda It didn't occur to him that in other dialects, they're different vowels. [16:29]
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vragnaroda I don't know anything about accents from Cornwall other than that's where the stereotypical pirate arrr comes from (and hence, the American [ɹ/ɻ]). [16:31]
mircea_popescu open back rounded a in writing ? [16:31]
mircea_popescu hm [16:32]
vragnaroda I think that's what he said. [16:32]
mircea_popescu well my english phonetics isn't precise enough to tell you where this is actually the case [16:32]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [16:33]
mircea_popescu ask him to write out job or wobble or something maybe ? [16:35]
vragnaroda How many vowels are there in Romanian? [16:35]
vragnaroda Hmm, Wikipedia says 7. [16:36]
vragnaroda That's better than most Romance languages. [16:36]
mircea_popescu o get out. [16:36]
mircea_popescu romanian has like 20 vowels [16:36]
mircea_popescu at a minimum. [16:36]
spawn- anyone here want my 6.41BTC ? [16:36]
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vragnaroda Well, when you count diphthongs and triphthongs, perhaps. [16:37]
mircea_popescu they invented this partial notation so that there's 7 letters called vowels [16:37]
mircea_popescu mostly because romanian academy = turd sandwhich. [16:37]
vragnaroda Well, language academies are silly and stupid at best. [16:37]
mircea_popescu yes. but to give you an example : [16:38]
mircea_popescu iarna (winter) nominative, iernii dative [16:38]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: You know the Académie française says CD-ROM is wrong in French and to go with “le cédérom” [16:38]
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vragnaroda lol [16:38]
mircea_popescu now this is written out ie, but it was written out e circomflex 100 years ago [16:38]
mircea_popescu and it is certifiably a different sound from either e or ie. [16:39]
mircea_popescu so, romanian cheats by noting as diphtongs things that aren't really diphtongs, [16:39]
mircea_popescu and yes, the french are stupid, but not quite as stupid as the romanians. do you know there's to this day printed in like, schoolbooks, that the verbal supine form has a "substantival aspect" ? [16:40]
mircea_popescu pisses me the fuck off, not only do they not know what the aspect is, but nobody sets them on fire ffs. [16:40]
vragnaroda lol [16:41]
mircea_popescu anyway. there's 7 letters called vowels. by mixing them (as false dipthongs) and by their position in the word the actual 20ish vowels of the language are written down. [16:42]
mircea_popescu for instance final u (in articled nouns) is written out as -ul, tho it's simply a different sort of u (used to be u reversed circomflex before) [16:42]
copumpkin fucking linguists, how do they work [16:42]
vragnaroda copumpkin: magnets [16:42]
mircea_popescu lol srsly. [16:43]
copumpkin aliens? [16:43]
vragnaroda Like I said, language academies are stupid. [16:43]
mircea_popescu some level of stupidity is tolerable in all human endeavour [16:43]
mircea_popescu but the levels of outright proud ignorance and demonstrative stupidity these guys reach... [16:44]
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vragnaroda Hmm, it's 48° out right now but it feels warmer. [16:47]
imsaguy 64°F [16:48]
vragnaroda The high for today is 67°. [16:48]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD anyone? [16:48]
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imsaguy vragnaroda: you should have my weather in a day or so [16:49]
imsaguy is tomorrow supposed to be warmer? [16:49]
vragnaroda The high for tomorrow is also 67°. [16:49]
vragnaroda Sunday's is 69°. [16:49]
vragnaroda Er, Monday's* [16:50]
imsaguy woah [16:55]
imsaguy typically, you write *Monday's [16:55]
imsaguy switching it up a little :p [16:55]
copumpkin wouldn't want life to get monotonous [16:56]
snoarlax I'm selling 3x $5 bestbuy gift cards, $60 moneypak and 1 year xbox live sub for BTC, if anyone is interested [17:00]
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mcorlett ;;getrating snoarlax [17:05]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask snoarlax!~snoarlax@stuke5.piratenpartei-bayern.de [17:05]
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rg i may have just eaten the largest breakfas [17:08]
rg ever [17:08]
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rg ;;ticker --last [17:15]
gribble 5.32715 [17:15]
rg ;;calc 2.48 * 5.32 [17:15]
gribble 13.1936 [17:15]
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rg Mr Corlette, are you there sir [17:16]
mcorlett I am [17:17]
rg May I ask how you are liking your VPS ? [17:17]
rg any issues? [17:17]
mcorlett It works as expected from a VPS on the other side of the planet. [17:18]
rg BLAM [17:19]
rg free upgrade [17:19]
rg let me know when your VPS can be reset [17:19]
Cusipzzz O.o [17:19]
mcorlett Huh? [17:19]
rg for participating in this BitVPS user survey [17:20]
rg you just got a free upgrade [17:20]
mcorlett lol [17:20]
rg 768 -> 1024 [17:20]
rg but i have to use the facilities [17:21]
rg so it will have to wait for 5-10 minutes [17:21]
copumpkin rg: you gonna take a picture for us? [17:21]
rg no not this time [17:21]
rg but the last one is still up [17:21]
copumpkin :( [17:21]
mcorlett rg: You should be able to turn it off peacefully at any time. [17:22]
mcorlett No SIGKILL, please! [17:22]
* copumpkin hax [17:23]
mircea_popescu ok, http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << now with book! [17:24]
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mircea_popescu please go sell/buy stuff [17:25]
mircea_popescu so i get some data so i can add graphs. [17:25]
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MBS anyone want to buy a $10 best buy gift card, a $20 lowes gift card, an AMEX gift card, or want a vps that is almost 1/3 of a http://kimsufi.ie 24G server? [17:27]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [17:33]
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rg how many tsp to a tbsp [17:41]
foggyb1 3 [17:41]
mircea_popescu you cooking rg ? :D [17:42]
rg honestly [17:42]
rg you dont wnat to know what im doing [17:42]
mcorlett http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1+tbsp+in+tsp [17:42]
rg yeah i already got it mcorlett [17:42]
mcorlett You're refusing to let me Google that for you? [17:43]
mcorlett I will now Google that for you twice. [17:43]
mircea_popescu ahahaah [17:43]
mircea_popescu mcorlett go trade some mpex stocks! [17:43]
mcorlett I will... soon. [17:44]
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rg if you fall i will catch you [17:50]
rg ill be waiting [17:50]
rg time after time [17:50]
bitcoin-otc-uk Cyndi Lauper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS5rS_da9E [17:51]
rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqhOrgk11A [17:51]
bitcoin-otc-uk time after time [17:51]
rg no ads [17:51]
rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US-ZgUr3xQY [17:51]
bitcoin-otc-uk savage garden [17:52]
bitcoin-otc-uk rocks [17:52]
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rg i dont know about 'rocks' [17:54]
rg but i like that song [17:54]
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shdzz Buying BTC for PPUSD. PM me! [17:55]
rg what're you paying shdzz [17:55]
bitcoin-otc-uk rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsNTmjlf1vI Waterboys • The Whole of the Moon [17:56]
rg ;;gettrust shdzz [17:57]
gribble Trust relationship from user rg to user shdzz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 7 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=rg&dest=shdzz [17:57]
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rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDcpXlttqq4 [17:59]
rg All 4 One - I swear [18:00]
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rg and i swear [18:02]
rg by the moon and the stars and the sky [18:02]
rg ill be there [18:02]
rg (ill be there) [18:02]
rg this song goes out to mark btw [18:02]
bitcoin-otc-uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=say9QTH4ijo [18:03]
rg whats that [18:03]
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bitcoin-otc-uk Kate Bush Running Up That Hill cover MPHO [18:03]
bitcoin-otc-uk remix [18:03]
rg you should look up Kate Voegel - Fooling myself [18:03]
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rg and umm [18:03]
bitcoin-otc-uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=say9QTH4ijo&feature=relmfu [18:03]
rg michelle branch - breathe [18:04]
rg ^-- so awesome [18:04]
bitcoin-otc-uk i think that the one [18:04]
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bitcoin-otc-uk efo [18:04]
bitcoin-otc-uk defo [18:04]
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rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9hFX39cM0 <-- chick is HOT [18:04]
rg i actually saw her before she was famous, just her + 1 guitar [18:05]
rg i liked the older versions of her songs [18:05]
rg they were less produced [18:05]
rg now theres like strings/orchestra [18:05]
bitcoin-otc-uk Kate Voegele is fit [18:05]
rg definitely [18:05]
rg shes short and skinny [18:05]
rg thats how i likes em [18:05]
bitcoin-otc-uk me to [18:05]
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bitcoin-otc-uk exactly like that [18:06]
shdzz fuck vevo [18:06]
rg yeah [18:06]
rg Vevo is trash [18:06]
masori video isn't available in germany [18:06]
bitcoin-otc-uk i would if i could [18:06]
masori Voegeln in germany means "fuck" [18:06]
rg but sometimes its hard to find a good quality normal one [18:06]
bitcoin-otc-uk to right [18:07]
bitcoin-otc-uk it is hard [18:07]
bitcoin-otc-uk but they are out there [18:07]
bitcoin-otc-uk you just have to look [18:07]
bitcoin-otc-uk but be wise [18:07]
bitcoin-otc-uk about it [18:07]
rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHYP7DErh4 [18:09]
rg this song has like the best pop chrous ever [18:10]
rg michelle branch has another band too, the wreckers [18:10]
rg they have a few songs [18:10]
rg theyre like country, which i dont care for [18:10]
rg but its like taylor swift country, which isnt country at all, its pop with a banjo [18:10]
mircea_popescu banjop [18:11]
rg ;;rated shdzz [18:12]
gribble You have not yet rated user shdzz [18:12]
bitcoin-otc-uk rg this is onw of my fav tunes ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAVA_8bjdl8&feature=related [18:12]
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rg ;;rate shdzz 1 million dollar trade [18:12]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user shdzz has been recorded. [18:12]
bitcoin-otc-uk Stevie Nicks - Edge of Seventeen [18:12]
dirkdizzler http://vimeo.com/10250741 [18:12]
rg lol [18:12]
draco49 good morning ppl [18:12]
rg dirkdizzler: i played urban terror with someone named dirkdizzler earliar [18:12]
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rg they were a douchebag [18:12]
bitcoin-otc-uk draco49 Hi [18:12]
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dirkdizzler MUST HAVE BEEN ME [18:13]
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BTCHero ;;t [18:13]
gribble beer up on Vimeo [18:13]
rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFMpSWcHfM [18:13]
BTCHero ;;t [18:13]
gribble The Wreckers - Leave The Pieces (With Lyrics) - YouTube [18:13]
rg michelle branch and some other broad [18:14]
rg i forget her name [18:14]
rg Michelle Branch and Jessica Harp [18:14]
rg whoever that is [18:14]
rg i had never heard of her before but i guess shes famous [18:14]
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shdzz heard these guys before? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiqYdLxSh4g [18:15]
bitcoin-otc-uk The Wreckers - Leave The Pieces i have never heard of her before to but good [18:15]
rg heh [18:16]
rg its funny cause [18:16]
rg i usually listen to punk [18:16]
rg but i have a soft spot for some pop music [18:16]
bitcoin-otc-uk punk rocks [18:16]
bitcoin-otc-uk yes [18:16]
bitcoin-otc-uk i lovve punk [18:16]
rg i dont like the shit like lady gaga [18:16]
bitcoin-otc-uk love [18:16]
rg or the other weirdos [18:16]
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rg but i do like taylor swift [18:16]
bitcoin-otc-uk lady gaga die [18:16]
bitcoin-otc-uk taylor swift i like [18:17]
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rg Taylor Swift - Back To December [18:17]
rg this is the only new song ive heard of hers [18:17]
rg but i like it [18:17]
bitcoin-otc-uk do you like Stevie Nicks? [18:18]
bitcoin-otc-uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAVA_8bjdl8 [18:18]
rg yeah [18:18]
bitcoin-otc-uk my fav [18:19]
rg its funny, taylor swift has a different dude in *every* video [18:19]
rg skank ;> [18:19]
bitcoin-otc-uk skank [18:19]
bitcoin-otc-uk love it [18:19]
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bitcoin-otc-uk rg have heard of Soulwax? [18:22]
bitcoin-otc-uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRMUsuO0G5A&feature=related [18:23]
bitcoin-otc-uk bit punky [18:23]
bitcoin-otc-uk bit dancey [18:23]
rg jesus ADS on youtube [18:24]
dsmouse I hate jesus ads. [18:24]
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foggyb1 "i hate jesus" ads? or, I hate "jesus ads" [18:24]
rg both [18:25]
rg i hate ads, jesus, and jesus ads on youtube [18:25]
bitcoin-otc-uk http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1224448/ [18:25]
bitcoin-otc-uk me to [18:25]
foggyb1 haters will hate [18:25]
BTCHero how are they monetizing a jesus ad? [18:25]
bitcoin-otc-uk soulwax film doc [18:26]
bitcoin-otc-uk good albums [18:26]
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bitcoin-otc-uk rg if you like soulwax wath there film doc http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1224448/ it is mental [18:28]
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rg BTCHero: the more people they dupe into jesus [18:32]
rg the more money the church gets on Sunday [18:33]
bitcoin-otc-uk not wrong [18:33]
rg Catholic Motto: "Give as if the person next to you was watching" [18:33]
dsmouse Yes. what rg said. [18:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [18:33]
bitcoin-otc-uk richest people on earth [18:33]
rg gmaxwell: why dont you just do an onjoin [18:33]
rg it'd probably be just as annoying [18:33]
rg who's code is responsible for the vuln anyway [18:34]
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rg oo [18:34]
rg looks like that tablespoon is kicking in [18:34]
rg soon [18:34]
rg before anyone asks me if its drugs, its Magnesium sulfate [18:36]
draco49 is it drugs? [18:36]
pirateat40 what are you taking epson salt? [18:37]
draco49 yep [18:38]
pirateat40 why even [18:38]
draco49 I don't know why you would ingest that. [18:38]
pirateat40 laxitive [18:38]
pirateat40 but its a horrible one [18:38]
BTC_Bear Yea, figs at least taste good [18:38]
snoarlax or indian food [18:39]
pirateat40 or Taco Bell [18:39]
draco49 Usually it's used to soak an injured ankle or wrist. [18:39]
draco49 hey now.... Taco Bell is good. [18:39]
BTC_Bear damn, lunch time. later [18:39]
draco49 lol [18:39]
draco49 rg, are you pregnant? [18:40]
draco49 From WebMD --> "Magnesium sulfate is most commonly used for the treatment of preeclampsia during pregnancy." [18:41]
draco49 gotta little preeclampsia, do ya? [18:42]
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rg constipation [18:45]
rg constantly [18:45]
bitcoin-otc-uk rg fibre http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/diet/high_fibre/food.htm [18:46]
bitcoin-otc-uk and bran [18:46]
bitcoin-otc-uk no Magnesium sulfate [18:46]
bitcoin-otc-uk very bad [18:46]
bitcoin-otc-uk make you worse [18:47]
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bitcoin-otc-uk and fruit [18:48]
bitcoin-otc-uk tha [18:48]
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rg heh [18:51]
rg i eat fiber every day [18:52]
rg its related to medicine [18:52]
rg not diet [18:52]
bitcoin-otc-uk if you eat fiber every day you should not need Magnesium sulfate [18:53]
rg its my medicine that makes me constipated [18:54]
rg fiber doesnt do anything [18:54]
rg it just makes me extra constipated [18:54]
rg fiber is great , but it just makes more shit [18:55]
rg if you cant shit, the fiber shit turns into the same shit thats already in you [18:55]
bitcoin-otc-uk what medicine for what condition? [18:55]
rg i prefer not to get into it [18:55]
bitcoin-otc-uk np [18:55]
Ploo what a shitty situation to be in [18:56]
bitcoin-otc-uk i understand [18:56]
bitcoin-otc-uk but dont listen to doctors [18:56]
bitcoin-otc-uk find a natural cure [18:57]
bitcoin-otc-uk doctors just get back handers to feed people full of shit [18:57]
rg a doctor never told me to take magnesium [18:57]
rg its the only thing that works [18:58]
rg so i take it [18:58]
bitcoin-otc-uk drug companys are the richest on earth [18:58]
bitcoin-otc-uk yea but you other drugs [18:58]
draco49 I find that wings from Hooters get's the job done. [19:00]
bitcoin-otc-uk aks your doc is there a natural cure for what you have and he will say no and you should gauge his reaction to your question [19:01]
bitcoin-otc-uk he wont like it [19:01]
draco49 lol [19:01]
ageis senna [19:02]
ageis senna leaf is the natural cure [19:02]
draco49 yeah [19:03]
rg or aloe [19:03]
rg or honey [19:03]
rg or prunes [19:03]
rg trsut me, ive used it all [19:03]
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draco49 prune juice [19:03]
ageis magnesium works tho [19:03]
ageis milk of magnesia [19:03]
bitcoin-otc-uk figs is best [19:03]
ageis really fucks up your electrolyte balance [19:03]
draco49 I like figs. [19:04]
draco49 and dried apricots [19:04]
bitcoin-otc-uk magic mushrooms [19:04]
draco49 also good [19:04]
bitcoin-otc-uk shit wrong channel [19:04]
vragnaroda Wtf is this antiscience shit doing in #bitcoin-otc? [19:05]
dwon When I need medical advice, I don't go to some doctor, I go see bitcoin-otc-uk! [19:05]
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dwon There should be a TV show: Satoshi M.D. [19:06]
chwergy anyone looking to Sell BTC? [19:06]
dwon hosted by Kevin Trudeau [19:06]
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chwergy :3 [19:07]
rg ;;ident chwergy [19:07]
gribble Nick 'chwergy', with hostmask 'chwergy!~chwergy@173.180.116.19', is identified as user chwergy, with GPG key id 260E643A50883F46, and key fingerprint C94FF8B86A601283F4EC25C6260E643A50883F46. [19:07]
rg look at you, trading pro [19:07]
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chwergy ^.^ [19:07]
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rg there sure are a lot of new faces around here lately [19:07]
rg makes me nervious [19:07]
vragnaroda dwon: lol [19:08]
chwergy yeah, 3/4 ppl i traded with were newish [19:08]
rg heh thats exactly what im talking about [19:08]
vragnaroda ;;gpg info chwergy [19:08]
gribble User 'chwergy', with keyid 260E643A50883F46 and fingerprint C94FF8B86A601283F4EC25C6260E643A50883F46, registered on Thu Mar 15 03:21:02 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask chwergy!~chwergy@173.180.116.19 [19:08]
rg im looking at your ratings [19:08]
chwergy let the newbies get exp of eachother :P [19:08]
chwergy have you ever been ripped off? [19:09]
rg me? no [19:09]
rg but thats cause i usually dont take risks [19:10]
chwergy well thank you for taking a risk with me, sorta.. [19:10]
chwergy and teaching me. [19:10]
chwergy am thinking about purchasing a VPS [19:10]
chwergy i almost traded with one of your clients :P [19:11]
rg yeah.. probably like 15-20% of people here are our customers [19:11]
rg heh [19:11]
chwergy I want to start a Website.. (thats what a VPS is for.. right?) like craiglist for bitcoin [19:12]
rg you dont need a VPS to host a website [19:12]
chwergy no but I don't have a machine [19:12]
dsmouse If I were doing that site, I'd consider google's app engine [19:13]
chwergy okay [19:13]
dsmouse built in scaling [19:13]
rg there's also already a craigslist type thing for Bitcoin [19:13]
chwergy name? [19:13]
rg theres that classified site for bitcoin, there are *no* jobs on there [19:13]
rg its all offers [19:13]
rg http://www.bitcoinclassifieds.net/ [19:14]
dsmouse what an original name [19:14]
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rg didnt you know [19:14]
rg anything that has to do with bitcoin is named bit* [19:14]
rg or bitcoin* [19:14]
dsmouse or block [19:14]
pirateat40 http://btclist.com/ [19:15]
bitfoo some imaginative ones even have nicks that start with bit [19:15]
vragnaroda :) [19:15]
rg or companies [19:15]
rg like bitvps.com [19:15]
rg and Bit Services, LLC [19:15]
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rg or btcvps [19:16]
rg doesnt get any more generic than those [19:16]
rg gpumax is fairly generic aswell [19:16]
rg doesnt mean they suck though :> [19:16]
dsmouse wow. the two gift cards on the front page are *SUCKY* deals [19:16]
rg yeah [19:17]
chwergy should have an option to filter out gift cards [19:17]
rg if you want giftcards -otc is the place to get it [19:17]
chwergy they are too common [19:17]
rg the market for giftcards in -otc is so ... bursting [19:18]
rg you could get a really good deal just cause of quantity offered [19:18]
dsmouse everywhere else on the net sales giftcards at a discount off face price, [19:18]
dsmouse those deals are so bad it's insulting to read [19:18]
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chwergy i was thinking bitlist [19:19]
a5m0 selling 1x 5970, 4x new yubikeys, 1c dual 2.8ghz xeon server in mini-tower case [19:19]
chwergy but... seems like those sites are toooo common [19:19]
chwergy go on #bitcoin-mining [19:20]
rg bitcoin-mining are a bunch of dbags [19:20]
rg miners are the second class citizens of bitcoin [19:20]
a5m0 they seem like the only citizens of bitcoin [19:20]
dsmouse :) [19:21]
raw_nector Buying bitcoin for PPUSD [19:21]
rg bitcoin miners are like people who complain about the law/judicial system and have no idea how it works [19:21]
dsmouse I lotto-mine. [19:21]
rg 'derrr i run this program and i gets bitcoinz?' [19:21]
rg ok its time to pass feces, excuse me [19:22]
chwergy but without miners.... [19:22]
dsmouse ... the entire bitcoin system would be full of rg's feces. [19:22]
chwergy lawl [19:22]
bitcoin-otc-uk rg is in a world off shit [19:22]
bitfoo bah. rain all weekend. :( [19:23]
chwergy Anyone want to trade me 10 BTC for 50 USD? [19:25]
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luke-jr chwergy: 2 BTC [19:25]
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chwergy you'll sell 2 BTC at that rate? [19:26]
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raw_nector 2BTC for $50 probably [19:27]
luke-jr ^ [19:27]
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chwergy yeah, not happening [19:28]
chwergy thanks though :P [19:28]
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luke-jr you'll wish you did in 2 years. [19:29]
luke-jr <.< [19:29]
a5m0 $5/btc is below makret anyways [19:29]
chwergy I'll do 50USD for 9.5 BTC (5.26) [19:29]
chwergy naw dawg [19:29]
a5m0 anyone else having delayed mtgox->dwolla withdrawals? [19:29]
bengie22 i will buy [19:30]
bengie22 pm em [19:30]
bengie22 me [19:30]
chwergy I'm buying [19:30]
raw_nector chwergy, i doubt you will be able to buy bitcoin with paypal for less than 5.9 [19:30]
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chwergy I have... I just made 4 transaction yesterday for under 5.8 [19:31]
chwergy o.0 [19:31]
Syntrax hello [19:32]
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Syntrax anyone here? [19:32]
chwergy definately [19:32]
raw_nector yes [19:32]
Syntrax awesome [19:32]
chwergy what are you looking for? [19:32]
Syntrax i need a website where i can buy bitcoins with visa [19:32]
Syntrax mtgox is terible [19:32]
bitfoo uh oh [19:32]
chwergy visa [19:32]
chwergy good luck [19:32]
raw_nector you won't find one lol [19:32]
chwergy :P [19:32]
Syntrax fuck [19:32]
Syntrax what about moneybooker or netteler [19:33]
bitfoo Syntrax: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Payment_methods [19:33]
BTC_Bear Well, you can, but you must try very hard to find it. Locally might work in person [19:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [19:33]
vragnaroda gmaxwell: Really? [19:33]
BTC_Bear gmaxwell: can you stop it now. [19:33]
raw_nector lolz [19:34]
vragnaroda Meh, it's not doing any harm. I'd probably keep it up for a while longer. [19:34]
dwon Yeah, I only heard about it yesterday. Not that it affects me. [19:34]
BTC_Bear I'll start one: Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: YOU'RE using Windows. [19:34]
bengie22 selling $50 http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/user/home/home.jsp egift card for bitcoins [19:34]
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Syntrax can someone give me a website where i can buy bitcoins with credit card? [19:34]
bitfoo Syntrax: there isn't one, sorry [19:35]
vragnaroda BTC_Bear: lol [19:35]
raw_nector ^ [19:35]
snoarlax not entirely true [19:35]
bitfoo really? [19:35]
snoarlax https://www.virwox.com/ [19:35]
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bitfoo aah [19:35]
bitfoo the fees are disgusting [19:35]
snoarlax its roundabout, and yea the fees [19:35]
Syntrax how mutch are the fees? [19:36]
vragnaroda Bring your own lube if you buy bitcoins there. [19:36]
snoarlax but it's possible [19:36]
Syntrax i need a voucher and some faggy second life character [19:36]
vragnaroda Yeah, but you want to use a faggy credit card. [19:36]
Syntrax :( [19:37]
dwon Syntrax: The problem with credit cards, paypal, etc. is that some people pay with CC, get the bitcoins, then do a (fraudulent) chargeback and disappear. [19:37]
raw_nector which sux [19:37]
Syntrax fuck [19:37]
dwon Syntrax: So anyone who does offer BTC for CC has to either only offer very small amounts, or charge a huge fee to offset the risk. [19:37]
Syntrax the fees are prob 20% right? [19:38]
Syntrax what about ewallets? [19:38]
vragnaroda Syntrax: You can also wait until it's time for rg to eat, and buy his food for him and he'll pay in bitcoins. He does that sometimes. [19:38]
bitfoo Syntrax: or just get a moneypak, a lot of people accept those in here [19:39]
Syntrax good thing i know who the fuck he is and can bring him food lol [19:39]
Syntrax bitfoo: thanks! [19:39]
Syntrax il try that [19:39]
BTCHero Syntrax you could buy someone something [19:39]
BTCHero You can buy me silver with your cc and ill pay upon receipt [19:40]
Syntrax im planing to do that [19:40]
Syntrax lol [19:40]
Syntrax no [19:40]
BTCHero lol [19:40]
BTCHero cool [19:40]
coingenuity cc + pm == 10% markup [19:40]
coingenuity anti-chargeback fees :/ [19:40]
Syntrax : [19:40]
coingenuity otherwise i'd be doing it ;) [19:40]
Syntrax moneypak accsepts only usa :S [19:41]
BTCHero coingenuity have you ever heard of scottsdale silver? [19:41]
dwon Syntrax: where are you? [19:41]
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Syntrax where am i from? [19:41]
dwon Syntrax: yeah, what country [19:41]
Syntrax RS [19:41]
dwon ok, nevermind [19:42]
Syntrax serbia [19:42]
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bitfoo I didn't know gribble auto-voices [19:43]
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dwon Syntrax: Have you searched Google? I found this: http://bitcoin.rs [19:44]
coingenuity BTCHero: i have, not used them myself [19:45]
coingenuity @usd [19:45]
bitcoin-goldRobo $1660.4/OZ of Gold [19:45]
MBS anyone want to buy a $10 best buy gift card, a $20 lowes gift card, an AMEX gift card, or want a vps that is almost 1/3 of a http://kimsufi.ie 24G server? [19:46]
coingenuity MBS: you can try sticking some of your giftcards up on #bitcoin-auctions [19:46]
BTCHero @silver [19:46]
bitcoin-goldRobo The #coinabul Silver Ticker: 6.073BTC per OZ of Silver, 0.195BTC per Gram of Silver and $32.58/OZ of Silver. Say @help for more commands. [19:46]
MBS well dont really feel like auctioning them, wouldnt want to start them too low, because past a certian point i would rather just spend them myself, lol [19:48]
coingenuity i feel ya, just set a reserve on it [19:48]
Keefe if the bitcoin price doesn't drop, i just might let someone buy me an ssd from amazon within a few days [19:50]
Keefe will probably get the ocz vertex 3 60gb to be my primary drive and keep a 250gb hdd in the second bay [19:50]
Keefe (17" laptop) [19:51]
MBS Keefe, i will do it, lol [19:51]
MBS do you really care if its from amazon or not though? [19:51]
MBS have been seeing alot of great ssd deals recently [19:51]
Keefe i don't. they just seem to have the best price on this particular one [19:51]
Keefe $79 net [19:52]
Keefe dang, just realized it has a mainil rebate which might not go so smoothly if someone else buys it for me [19:53]
Keefe mailin* [19:53]
Cory I hate rebates. [19:54]
MBS hmm, depends on what they want, dont remember what amazon gift packing slip has though [19:54]
Cory They always send gift cards that are impossible to completely use up. [19:54]
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Keefe i hate to not know til 3 months later that they aren't going to give me the rebate because the billing and shipping addresses don't match or something [19:55]
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MBS always just convert them to paypal with clover on my phone [19:55]
MBS or with squareup reader if that doesnt work [19:55]
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MBS Keefe, are you only looking for 6*GB or is 12*GB an option too? [19:56]
MBS have been seeing alot more 12* deals [19:56]
MBS dead now but new sandisk extremes (pretty much same as vertex 3) were $130 for 120gb [19:56]
MBS no rebate [19:56]
Keefe just 6* [19:57]
Keefe unless you find a 9* or 12* for <$90 :) [19:57]
danieldaniel omgsicle [19:58]
MBS Keefe, not going to happen except with a crappy drive, lol [19:58]
MBS think they had some of the vertex pro 120gbs for ~$90 [19:59]
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MBS yeah vertex plus [19:59]
Raccoon gbit/s? [19:59]
Keefe i just care about random 4k speeds [19:59]
MBS still would be meh [19:59]
MBS max seq. is 250/160 on them [20:00]
MBS indilinx barefoot [20:00]
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MBS got a 64gb M4 a few weeks ago for $59 but sold it on amazon [20:00]
MBS tried to sell it in here though first :p [20:01]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [20:01]
Keefe ok, so here's my offer: 15 BTC for a vertex 3 60gb incl shipping and tax, with no rebate hassle [20:01]
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Keefe ;;buy 1 "60gb SSD" at 15 BTC "Must be OCZ Vertex 3, include shipping to California, and involve no mail-in rebates" [20:08]
gribble Order id 7265 created. [20:08]
mircea_popescu o so what is this, bitcoinica getting sued ? [20:08]
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rg FINALLY [20:10]
mircea_popescu seems kind of dubious tho [20:10]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69156.0 [20:10]
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rg im suing bitcoinica too [20:15]
a5m0 for? [20:16]
rg zhoutong raped me [20:16]
Cusipzzz lol [20:16]
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rg i said no [20:17]
rg but he made me [20:17]
Cusipzzz no means yes in chinese [20:17]
rg then he put a century egg up my butt [20:17]
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rasengan Somehow, that thread just doesn't seem so legitimate o_O [20:20]
rg i assure you my complaint is [20:20]
rasengan What happened o_o [20:21]
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rasengan oh haha nm lol [20:22]
rasengan i didnt see that lol [20:22]
BTC_Bear Didn't he promise to pay back the 43K BTC? No need for a law suit. [20:22]
rg thats not what its about [20:23]
rg he probably already paid them back [20:23]
rg the dude is mad cause he posted his position on the forum [20:23]
rg and he lost all his mney [20:23]
danieldaniel bitcoinica is getting sued [20:23]
danieldaniel *withdraws everything* [20:23]
a5m0 =$2 [20:24]
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rg daniel i highly doubt you have anything in bitcoinica [20:25]
danieldaniel rg: I have $5 [20:25]
danieldaniel just sitting there [20:26]
danieldaniel earning like .0000000001 dollars a year [20:26]
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rg how did you manage to lose money with the bot [20:26]
a5m0 oh man i was $3 off [20:26]
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danieldaniel 6:15pm] rg: im suing bitcoinica too [20:26]
danieldaniel 6:16pm] rg: zhoutong raped me [20:27]
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danieldaniel o.0 [20:27]
vragnaroda lmao @ that thread [20:28]
danieldaniel vragnaroda: the lawsuit one? [20:28]
danieldaniel zhou is probably not lol'ing [20:29]
vragnaroda danieldaniel: I think he is. His words: "My advice: go ahead with what you're doing until you realize you're wrong." [20:29]
danieldaniel oh [20:29]
bitfoo he's the most mature of the lot :P [20:30]
ne0futur (20:21) <+danieldan> bitcoinica is getting sued [20:30]
ne0futur rumour or fact ? [20:31]
danieldaniel ne0futur: why is it danieldan? [20:31]
vragnaroda ne0futur: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69156.0;all [20:31]
ne0futur 9 letters dispayed here [20:31]
danieldaniel oh [20:31]
vragnaroda danieldaniel: On my screen, you get truncated to danieldanie. [20:31]
danieldaniel wow, because that saves a whole lot of space [20:31]
vragnaroda ikr [20:32]
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mircea_popescu hey, one e over many lines. [20:32]
luke-jr "stolen (unexpected closing positions at wrong price" [20:32]
luke-jr LOLOLOLOL [20:32]
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gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [20:33]
mircea_popescu doesn't it suck living in the same universe with windows ? [20:34]
vragnaroda ikr [20:34]
danieldaniel vragnaroda: oh lol [20:35]
g04 windows has paved the road for many famous security evangelists though! [20:35]
danieldaniel vragnaroda: I didn't read his posts [20:35]
g04 like spencer pratt from the hills and his DEP tricks [20:35]
g04 rofl [20:35]
danieldaniel vragnaroda: zhou's, that is [20:35]
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g04 flipped my shit when i found out that was him [20:35]
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BicycleHead anyone willing to sell btc for ppusd? [20:38]
mononymous im also looking for someone who wants to sell btc for paypal [20:40]
raw_nector me too [20:40]
ne0futur ;;gettrust BicycleHead [20:41]
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Cory Me too! I want to buy 100 BTC at 5.20 PPUSD or MoneyPak. :) [20:42]
danieldaniel Cory: i'ill bid 5.21 [20:43]
Cory You want to buy 100 BTC at 5.21? [20:43]
rg ill sell you 30 btc @ 6 [20:44]
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danieldaniel no [20:45]
danieldaniel like 3 [20:45]
danieldaniel and isn't it at like 5.32 right now? [20:45]
rg i just reported these assholes to gmail for spam [20:45]
Cory danieldaniel: Oh. Then you're not really outbidding me. :P [20:46]
mircea_popescu jesus there's a buncha ppl wanting btc for pp. [20:46]
danieldaniel whattttt [20:46]
danieldaniel paypal here has a 2.7% fee [20:46]
danieldaniel thats cheap [20:46]
raw_nector rg, are you selling btc for ppusd ? [20:46]
ne0futur (20:44) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- BicycleHead is not registered. [20:47]
ne0futur BicycleHead: you should register your nickname with nickserv too [20:47]
BicycleHead I am registered [20:47]
rg ;;ident raw_nector [20:47]
gribble Nick 'raw_nector', with hostmask 'raw_nector!~raw_necto@dns.mullvad.net', is identified as user raw_nector, with GPG key id E1DA1FC53C8760D5, and key fingerprint D4F4BB726A15338EA206D657E1DA1FC53C8760D5. [20:47]
rg ;;getrating raw_nector [20:47]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask raw_nector!~raw_necto@dns.mullvad.net [20:47]
rg no [20:47]
rg im not [20:47]
BicycleHead wait what's nickserv? [20:47]
raw_nector k [20:47]
ne0futur BicycleHead: /msg nickserv help [20:48]
rg IRCing from mullvad makes you look extremely sketchy [20:48]
ne0futur /msg nickserv help register [20:48]
BicycleHead thanks [20:48]
raw_nector thats true. I lol. I will fix that [20:48]
ne0futur BicycleHead: with this you have to identify to use your nickname [20:48]
ne0futur without it anyone can use the nickname BicycleHead and try to scam with your nickname [20:48]
BicycleHead ohh alright [20:49]
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drossano ;;guide [20:52]
BicycleHead so no one wil ltrade for pp right meow? [20:52]
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rg i will you just gotta offer teh right price [20:53]
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mononymous please help [20:56]
Cusipzzz with ? [20:57]
mononymous registration [20:57]
Cusipzzz try ;;guide [20:58]
ne0futur mononymous: read http://gw.gd/bcauth and come back with real questions [20:58]
BTC_Bear mircea_popescu: Can you put some padding on the bottom of your options.php page? Please. [20:58]
mircea_popescu mm how do you mean BTC_Bear ? [20:58]
BTC_Bear Just some extra white space [20:59]
mononymous ;;guide [20:59]
mircea_popescu aite. [20:59]
mononymous thank you [20:59]
mircea_popescu try now ? [20:59]
mircea_popescu mononumous did you just thank gribble ? [20:59]
mononymous no Cusipzzz :D [21:00]
BTC_Bear Yea, that's fine. I know the table ends now. [21:00]
danieldaniel mircea_popescu: I did that when I first joined, in a PM though [21:00]
mircea_popescu the table should end in text anyway ? [21:01]
mircea_popescu mind sending me a ss of what you see ? [21:01]
mircea_popescu lol danieldaniel it's cute. [21:01]
BTC_Bear sure just a sec [21:01]
danieldaniel mircea_popescu: because you're totally not creepy or anything (calling me cute) [21:01]
mircea_popescu well i totally don't care if i am. [21:01]
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mononymous sorry, gpg = pgp ? [21:04]
chsados i like eggs [21:04]
kinlo pgp is both a standard and an implementation, gpg is just another implementation of the standard [21:04]
drossano lol thank you gribble [21:04]
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chsados i like green eggs [21:05]
danieldaniel oh greap [21:05]
danieldaniel great* [21:05]
danieldaniel this guy hacked my vps and dos'd on it [21:05]
danieldaniel And now it's suspended [21:05]
danieldaniel and over 90% of bandwidth is used [21:06]
clone1018 hah [21:06]
rg your WHAT [21:06]
danieldaniel rg: vps [21:06]
rg see if you had bitvps that wouldnt have happened [21:06]
danieldaniel lol [21:06]
drossano if u have his IP ill ddos him back for $5 [21:06]
clone1018 drossano: .... [21:06]
danieldaniel well I turned it off [21:06]
drossano lol [21:06]
danieldaniel drossano: no [21:06]
drossano jk [21:06]
rg drossano: thats a good way to get banned [21:06]
danieldaniel Now I'm gonna go and get some ip logs... [21:06]
rg first i couldnt shit [21:07]
rg now i cant stop [21:07]
danieldaniel How do you manage to waste 456.42 gb's sending packets... [21:07]
chsados lol rg, been eating fiber? [21:07]
danieldaniel 50mb/s [21:08]
danieldaniel Great. [21:08]
danieldaniel I thought i had a 10mb/s limit... [21:08]
Cory Anybody want me to buy them ~$500 worth of stuff for BTC? :D [21:09]
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danieldaniel rg: LOLWHAT [21:10]
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Greed Do you know how it happened, danieldaniel? [21:11]
mircea_popescu i know some camwhore cory :p [21:11]
Greed I find it pretty hard to believe he gained entry to your VPS [21:12]
Greed And instead of doing anything of actual substance [21:12]
Greed Then DDOS'd it. [21:12]
danieldaniel Greed: he ddosd an ip[ [21:14]
danieldaniel not my vps [21:14]
danieldaniel like, using my vps [21:14]
danieldaniel and i guess he got my pas [21:14]
danieldaniel thats what it looks like [21:14]
Greed I see [21:14]
Greed What was he DDOS'ing? [21:14]
danieldaniel this random ip [21:14]
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danieldaniel I should have said "google" [21:15]
mickeemouse yo4 [21:15]
mickeemouse I have a prepaid, anonymous visa giftcard for $160 that I am looking to exchange for BTC [21:15]
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danieldaniel mickeemouse: y u no moneypak [21:16]
mickeemouse first-time buyer, didn't know you were supposed to buy through moneypak [21:17]
danieldaniel :) [21:17]
danieldaniel you're not "supposed" to buy with moneypak, just easier in some cases [21:17]
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mickeemouse haha, well it's been a bit of a hassle trying to buy through prepaid [21:18]
mickeemouse you'd think it would be easier since it's way more secure to buy them that way [21:18]
rg daniel [21:19]
danieldaniel rg: wut [21:19]
rg if he has your password [21:19]
danieldaniel rg: it was a different pass than everything else [21:19]
rg it would stand to reason something else of yours is compromised [21:19]
rg thats even worse [21:19]
danieldaniel ? [21:19]
danieldaniel oh [21:19]
rg how else would he get a random password [21:19]
rg if you're not owned [21:20]
danieldaniel It was pretty short [21:20]
danieldaniel me being stupid [21:20]
Greed That's not worse [21:20]
Greed That's a few dozen times better [21:20]
rg Greed: if it was just some pw he used for everything [21:20]
rg it couldve been his emial or something dumb that got owned [21:20]
danieldaniel i bought an annual thing for $20 and I set this stupid pass to it [21:20]
rg but if its a random pw [21:20]
danieldaniel rg: ... [21:20]
Greed If it was a password that he used for everything, he would be shitting his pants right now. [21:20]
Greed But because it's unique [21:20]
Greed That means it was server specific [21:20]
rg or specific to the machine he logged in from [21:20]
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Greed And gained either through bruteforcing or a vulnerability. [21:20]
Greed Which puts him in a much better standing. [21:21]
rg which would reason to stand that everything is compromised [21:21]
danieldaniel lol [21:21]
rg stand to reason* [21:21]
Greed Or [21:21]
danieldaniel i haven't logged into this thing in 4 or 5 months [21:21]
danieldaniel LOL [21:21]
Greed VPS's are hacked all the time due to vulnerabilities [21:21]
rg daniel [21:21]
Greed Thus he has much less to worry about [21:21]
rg were they romanian [21:21]
rg ? [21:21]
danieldaniel rg: let me see [21:21]
mickeemouse yo, sorry to interrupt but for future reference, I have a question [21:21]
danieldaniel it was yourvz.com [21:21]
mickeemouse what is the fastest, most anonymous way to buy bitcoins [21:21]
mickeemouse seems retarded to wire money from a bank [21:21]
danieldaniel is was $15.00/year [21:22]
rg mickeemouse: bitcoins are not anonymous [21:22]
mickeemouse because then the BTC can ultimately be traced back to you [21:22]
rg and there is no anonymous way to obtain them [21:22]
mickeemouse idk about that [21:22]
mickeemouse moneypak is anonymous [21:22]
rg no.. it isnt [21:22]
Greed Fastest == MtGox, Most anonymous == Via cash with someone local from here [21:22]
mickeemouse so [21:22]
mickeemouse hmmmm [21:22]
rg you're on camera purchasing it [21:22]
mickeemouse why isn't moneypak anonymous [21:22]
mickeemouse explain... [21:22]
rg that is guaranteed [21:22]
mickeemouse yeah [21:22]
mickeemouse but in a hat with sunglasses [21:22]
danieldaniel lol [21:22]
mickeemouse seriously [21:23]
bruzum :D [21:23]
danieldaniel they'll have X-rays flying everywhere [21:23]
mickeemouse if that's the only compromise of anonymiy [21:23]
danieldaniel obviously [21:23]
mickeemouse it's relatively anonymous if you being on camera is the most they've got [21:23]
rg mickeemouse: you're online from your IP [21:23]
mickeemouse you can hide from a camera [21:23]
mickeemouse no I'm online from the IP at a starbucks [21:23]
rg wayport makes you pay to use [21:23]
mickeemouse nice try [21:23]
Greed Pretty silly to assume that there are cameras absolutely everywhere. [21:23]
mickeemouse look, I do assume that [21:23]
mickeemouse and even assuming that [21:24]
mickeemouse relative anonymity [21:24]
Greed And even if it is recorded, can't be drawn to more than "Guy one handed money to guy two" [21:24]
rg there are cameras with anything that deals with money [21:24]
Greed Which can be chalked up to juts about a thousand other things [21:24]
mickeemouse if you can convert moneypak to BTC [21:24]
Greed rg [21:24]
Greed What are you talking about [21:24]
mickeemouse look, even conceding that rg is right [21:24]
rg Greed: any place that deals with large amounts of money has cameras [21:24]
mickeemouse they have images of you with a hat and glasses [21:24]
mickeemouse so [21:24]
mickeemouse you [21:25]
rg mickeemouse: im simply telling you [21:25]
Greed It's not like you're walking into a bank to exchange rg [21:25]
rg bitcoin isnt anonymous [21:25]
rg Greed: you're walking into a convenience store [21:25]
mickeemouse you haven't convinced me [21:25]
mickeemouse I mean [21:25]
Greed Easy enough to arrange a meet in a parking lot, a bar, or pretty much anywhere else [21:25]
mickeemouse it's relatively anonymous [21:25]
Greed There aren't exactly cameras in every building in the united states [21:25]
rg Greed: and then that person knows your face [21:25]
rg thats not anonymous [21:25]
* Greed facepalms [21:25]
mickeemouse beingon camera does not give up your identity rg [21:25]
mircea_popescu now they know your facepalm too [21:25]
mickeemouse if you wear a hat and gasses [21:25]
rg mickeemouse: you're obviously here to use silkroad [21:26]
mickeemouse it fucking doesn't [21:26]
rg so just go away [21:26]
mickeemouse I'm not [21:26]
mickeemouse but what if I were, so what? [21:26]
rg we are anti silkroad [21:26]
mircea_popescu we are ? [21:26]
mickeemouse I'm here to have anonymous currency [21:26]
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Greed Speak for yourself [21:26]
rg yes [21:26]
mircea_popescu i didn't know we gave a shit. [21:26]
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rg mircea: yeah all those people who got banned for talking about silkroad [21:26]
mickeemouse yo, rg sounds like a tool [21:26]
rg mickeemouse: and you're an idiot [21:27]
Greed yep [21:27]
mircea_popescu money is a tool. [21:27]
mickeemouse can anyone explain the best way to convert moneypak to BTC [21:27]
rg get a greendot card [21:27]
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rg use google [21:27]
mickeemouse k... [21:27]
mickeemouse lol [21:27]
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Greed You can advertise either here or on the forums, mickeemouse [21:27]
rg Greed, you used to be cool [21:27]
Greed There are usually takers [21:28]
rg you're a real stick in the mud lately [21:28]
Greed It helps that every time I talk to you you're saying something dumb as shit [21:28]
mickeemouse yeah [21:28]
mickeemouse so say I advertise here [21:28]
mickeemouse and someone says "I'll buy" [21:28]
BTC_Bear mircea_popescu: sorry got sidetracked. Here: http://awesomescreenshot.com/03c1rj47a before adding white space the bottom of the table was even with the end of page. [21:28]
Greed You'll have to register with Gribble if you don't want to stick around and ask manually all day [21:28]
mickeemouse is there an escrow service so that I don't get scammed [21:28]
rg ;;tell mickeemouse [guide] [21:28]
Greed mickeemouse, type ';;guide' [21:28]
rg before you ask any more questions [21:28]
rg read that [21:28]
mickeemouse k thanks [21:29]
mickeemouse sorry for anyone you guys with shit you've heard 1000 times before [21:29]
mickeemouse ;;guide [21:29]
mircea_popescu o wow BTC_Bear what screen size you got there ? [21:29]
mickeemouse lol [21:29]
mickeemouse ';;guide' [21:29]
rg Greed: fuck yourself [21:29]
Greed Professional as always, rg. [21:29]
Greed Stay classy. [21:29]
mircea_popescu 1280 huh. cool. [21:29]
rg what does this have to do with being professional? [21:29]
mickeemouse [guide] [21:29]
rg mickee [21:29]
rg ;;tell mickeemouse [guide] [21:29]
rg that URL [21:30]
rg you dont have to type anything [21:30]
rg you can buy a greendot card in the store without signing up right? [21:31]
Greed Greendot requires SSN [21:32]
mickeemouse yeah, I'm wondering that as well [21:32]
rg so theres your answer mickee [21:32]
mickeemouse lol, srsly? [21:32]
rg you cant use Moneypak anonymously [21:32]
mickeemouse social security #? [21:32]
Greed Used to be that you didn't need anything but money [21:32]
mickeemouse anyone tried signing up with a dead person's SSN? [21:32]
mickeemouse they're posted publicly [21:32]
Greed Greednot recently requires your name and SSN though [21:32]
rg mickee: that is a federal crime [21:32]
mickeemouse good point, I DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T TRY IT THEN [21:33]
LordCanti I believe its also supposed to be illegal to require a SSN as an id [21:33]
rg i dont believe its ID [21:33]
LordCanti but that hasn't been observed really ever [21:33]
mickeemouse yeah, I sincerely doubt it requires a fucking SSN [21:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [21:33]
Cory mickeemouse: You only need to provide a SSN to accept > $250 in MoneyPak. [21:33]
mickeemouse no one would give that up [21:33]
rg mickeemouse: everyone does [21:33]
rg ask anyone here [21:33]
rg they have my SSN [21:33]
Greed http://puu.sh/lc9o [21:33]
mickeemouse that's insane [21:33]
Greed mickeemouse ^ [21:33]
mickeemouse sht [21:34]
rg Greed: whats the URL that pops up if you click 'why does bla bla' [21:34]
MBS well of course they need your SSN [21:34]
mickeemouse so you can't buy it at a store? [21:34]
mickeemouse that looks like a fishy url btw [21:34]
MBS all the stuff after patriot act/know your customer/etc [21:34]
Greed rg: "To help the government fight the funding of terrorism and money laundering activities, Federal law requires all financial institutions to obtain, verify, and record information that identifies each person who obtains a Card. What this means for you is that when you register your Card, we will ask for your name, address, date of birth and other information that will allow us to identify you." [21:34]
Cory mickeemouse: You can buy a MoneyPak at a store without a SSN. [21:34]
rg ah [21:34]
rg patriot act shit [21:34]
Greed Yeah [21:35]
Greed sucks [21:35]
rg ive already been burned by patriot act [21:35]
rg via paypal [21:35]
mickeemouse sooooo... [21:35]
mickeemouse what about Western Union [21:35]
mickeemouse that seems like a viable route [21:35]
Greed There are some Prepaid Visas that you can get that don't require anything but a name though [21:35]
Cory I've sold for WU before, mickeemouse. [21:35]
Greed Doesn't even have to be a real one [21:35]
mickeemouse yeah [21:35]
mickeemouse I've got one [21:35]
rg WU is a rip off [21:35]
Greed "PayPower" I think [21:35]
rg youll lose quite a bit in fees [21:35]
Greed Used that one a while back [21:36]
mickeemouse you can buy a prepaid Visa from any convenience store [21:36]
rg mickee: thats true but no one will want it [21:36]
LordCanti I've never had to give any info whatsoever to buy one of those Visa gift cards [21:36]
rg i garantee you that no one will give you BTC for a visa/any prepaid credit card [21:36]
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rg unless you're extremely well trusted in here [21:36]
LordCanti If I wanted to use it online like a credit card I had to register it [21:36]
rg LordCanti: i remember that [21:37]
rg i never gave it real info [21:37]
LordCanti yeah I figured that, high risk to the receiver of the card [21:37]
rg they really just wanted the zip code [21:37]
MBS anyone want to buy an amex/discover gift card for bitcoins? [21:37]
rg cause some places require 'billing zip' [21:37]
LordCanti yeah [21:37]
rg that's why Eu people cant order lunch for me sometimes [21:37]
MBS well if you are using it for shipped stuff needs name and address, lol [21:37]
mickeemouse yeah, I think that's fundamentally the problem [21:38]
mickeemouse it's best used for online services [21:38]
rg honestly you already have your answer [21:38]
rg the only thing remotely close to anonymous is a person to person trade [21:38]
mickeemouse idk about that, I'm pretty sure I can use the card to go through Western Union [21:38]
mickeemouse the only drawback anyone hasmentioned is that it's abit of a ripoff [21:39]
mickeemouse so what [21:39]
vragnaroda MBS: Billing address and shipping address are two completely different things. 19 times out 20, only the ZIP part of the billing address is used. [21:39]
rg its more than a rip off [21:39]
mickeemouse I already bought the cards [21:39]
rg which 'cards' do you speak of [21:39]
vragnaroda (at least for things shipped within the U.S.) [21:39]
MBS oh hmm i didnt know that [21:39]
mickeemouse yeah, but I have the cards [21:39]
mickeemouse there's no better alternative [21:39]
mickeemouse prepaid anonymous visa gift cards [21:39]
mickeemouse registration requires entering in a zip [21:39]
mickeemouse that's it [21:39]
rg WU is cash only [21:40]
mickeemouse well.... fuck [21:40]
mickeemouse you sure? [21:40]
rg according to westernunion.com [21:40]
vragnaroda Not quite but they rape you on fees. [21:40]
rg > In Person: Pay with cash at a nearby Agent location. [21:40]
rg Could you be a victim of fraud? [21:40]
rg Western Union takes consumer protection seriously. [21:40]
rg lol [21:40]
mickeemouse I haven't paid anyone anything [21:41]
rg so says the #1 service to scam people over [21:41]
smickles you guys missed the fastest most anon way to get btc [21:41]
smickles steal it [21:41]
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mickeemouse so I haven't been defrauded yet [21:41]
rg huh [21:41]
rg what are you talking about [21:41]
vragnaroda smickles: That's not fast and usually it's not anon, either. [21:41]
smickles vragnaroda: i guess i'm just wrong then [21:41]
mickeemouse I should have added "easiest" [21:41]
mircea_popescu smickles, is the glbse charts not updating again ? [21:42]
rg here look [21:42]
rg you can send WU from a Credit Card online [21:42]
smickles mircea_popescu: dunno, let me check [21:42]
rg but they require all your info [21:42]
rg and i mean *all* of it [21:42]
MBS ah ok [21:42]
MBS looks like it doesnt necisarraly just check zip [21:42]
mickeemouse ok fair enough [21:42]
MBS but checks numbers [21:42]
mickeemouse do they ID you for cash transfer? [21:43]
MBS so 234 Cherokee Ln 10001 would work the same as 234 Nazi Rd 10001 [21:43]
rg MBS, some do [21:43]
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rg mickee: we dont know [21:43]
rg no one here uses WU [21:43]
mickeemouse MBS? [21:43]
rg and if they have in the past, it was only one or twice [21:43]
rg with cash [21:43]
smickles mircea_popescu: well, the last sale of MPOE.ETF was on the 13th [21:43]
MBS ? [21:43]
mickeemouse so what do you use? [21:44]
mickeemouse I mean [21:44]
mircea_popescu o so just air for the past 4 days ? [21:44]
rg i use moneypak, paypal, and popmoney [21:44]
mickeemouse if MoneyPak requires SSN, that's retarded [21:44]
rg but i have nothing to hide [21:44]
mickeemouse ehhh [21:44]
mickeemouse you don't value privacy is more like it [21:44]
smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, I haven't been advertising it too much :/ [21:44]
rg i run a business [21:44]
rg i have no privacy [21:44]
mickeemouse ha [21:44]
BTC_Bear MoneyPak requires cash at the register, that's it. [21:44]
mickeemouse not the way you run it [21:45]
mickeemouse where can you buy a moneypak? [21:45]
rg walgreens [21:45]
rg cvs [21:45]
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rg wal-mart? i think [21:45]
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rg walmart is moneypak friendly right? [21:45]
MBS ah ok [21:45]
Cory Yup. The most friendly. [21:45]
rg walmart has a lower than $5 fee doesnt it [21:45]
MBS amex can also check cardmember name using AWS [21:45]
BTC_Bear yea, wal-mart is 4.95. you save 5¢ [21:45]
MBS AVS i mean [21:45]
MBS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Verification_System [21:45]
rg amazing [21:45]
rg imagine how many moneypaks they sell to get that .05 off [21:45]
mickeemouse what's the best way to convert MoneyPak >>> BTC? [21:46]
Cory My Walmart sells them for less than $4.95. [21:46]
illu need exchange 20eur ukash to btc [21:46]
rg mickeemouse: you're in it [21:46]
MBS speaking of amex, hoping some of my promo credits come in soon, lol [21:46]
rg not only is it the best way, its the only way. [21:46]
Cory At Walmart you can load them to $1000 (instead of $500) and pay with debit. [21:46]
MBS waiting on $90 right now XD [21:46]
MBS though probably will have to call for $20 of it [21:47]
rg Cory: interesting [21:47]
rg PIN only right? [21:47]
MBS yeah [21:47]
MBS cuz its debit [21:47]
BTC_Bear Cory: I wouldn't pay with debit tho. Then there is a track. [21:47]
rg fuck man, western union is a mess [21:47]
rg their website, i mean [21:47]
Cory There's always a track. :P [21:47]
MBS go buy a candy bar with debit and get cashback then buy it [21:47]
mickeemouse dudes, I would be quite reluctant to exchange a moneypak on this site [21:48]
BTC_Bear Yea, but with cash. Someone has to look at video of thousands of people. [21:48]
mickeemouse lots of you know a shitload more about scamming people than I know about preventing myself from getting scammed [21:48]
rg ok one thing thats cool for WU is.. [21:48]
rg if you send WU, theyll mail a prepaid visa [21:48]
BTC_Bear Unless your a terrorist, that won't happen [21:48]
rg to the reciever (if you want) [21:48]
vragnaroda [19:48] < mickeemouse> | dudes, I would be quite reluctant to exchange a moneypak on this site <-- On what site? [21:48]
rg i get moneypaks here all the time [21:48]
rg i just got one this morning [21:49]
rg i guess you can send WU over the phone too over credit [21:49]
smickles mickeemouse: they know how to scam b/c they want to know how to avoid being scammed [21:49]
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mickeemouse granted [21:49]
BTC_Bear Sad but true statement unfortunately [21:49]
rg how can WU accept credit card [21:49]
rg theres so much risk.. [21:50]
rg user 1 sends $500 to user 2, user 2 gets $500, user 1 charges back [21:50]
vragnaroda smickles: Speak for yourself. I'm here to scam people. :p [21:50]
vragnaroda lol [21:50]
rg me too [21:50]
rg vragnaroda and i are teh scam team pro [21:50]
rg i prime them, tell them ops are trust worthy, etc [21:50]
rg then he scams them and i take 1/4 of teh cut [21:51]
rg TEST QUESTIONS: Test Questions may be used with some Services if the principal amount of the money transfer does not exceed $999.99. In the U.S, and many destinations outside the U.S., a money transfer that includes a test question will be paid to the Receiver if the Receiver can provide the correct answer to the Test Question or can provide valid identification. In some Destinations Receiver may be required to provide identification, a test question answe [21:52]
MBS sweet looks like $50 ticketmaster amex promo came in sometime earlier [21:52]
MBS just waiting on $40 now, lol [21:52]
rg WU also does SMS fees [21:53]
MBS rg, because westurn union is a large entity and is more likely to be able to counter a chargeback (which is also why they collect so much info) [21:53]
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rg MBS, how do you mean counter? [21:53]
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rg like when someone charges back, before they do it they contact WU [21:53]
rg and say is this cool? [21:53]
MBS no, i mean fight back against chargeback [21:53]
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rg mmm isee [21:53]
MBS and yeah, those questions are probably questions about credit report [21:53]
MBS oh wait nvm [21:54]
MBS misready [21:54]
MBS *read [21:54]
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rg lol in creeping tht dude's IP [21:55]
MBS anyone want to buy a $20 lowes gift card, an AMEX gift card, or want a vps that is almost 1/3 of a http://kimsufi.ie 24G server? [21:55]
rg i found a few other wayport IP's someone was spamming from [21:55]
rg that means someone walked to a mcdonalds/starbucks/etc [21:55]
rg and started spamming over the free wifi [21:55]
rg thats hilarious [21:55]
MBS lol so im hoping amex doesnt take too long to remove the hard $500 limit from my accoutn [21:56]
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cheebydi someone selling btc for PP? [21:56]
MBS really should have waited for untilization to go down on credit report, but was impatient, lol [21:56]
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mickeemouse yeah, if that's shorthand from prepaid [21:56]
rg ;;ident cheebydi [21:56]
gribble Nick 'cheebydi', with hostmask 'cheebydi!cheebydi@84-119-78-180.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at', is identified as user cheebydi, with GPG key id 6A80958B296FD874, and key fingerprint 153B4813333B901586918F4F6A80958B296FD874. [21:56]
rg ;;getrating cheebydi [21:56]
gribble User cheebydi, created on Thu Mar 15 15:20:25 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=cheebydi Currently authenticated from hostmask cheebydi!cheebydi@84-119-78-180.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at [21:56]
MBS yeah, if that's shorthand from prepaid [21:56]
MBS ? [21:56]
rg bitcoinTrader gigavps 2012-01-05 18:41:02 1 WU transaction for 1000$, fast and reliable [21:57]
rg look! [21:57]
rg someone does use WU [21:57]
mickeemouse " someone selling btc for PP?" [21:57]
rg its not [21:57]
rg its paypal [21:57]
mickeemouse FUCK!@ [21:58]
mickeemouse lol [21:58]
rg i like PopMoney [21:58]
rg and am happy to find theres actually a few people here who use it [21:58]
rg i gotta find someone else with it [21:58]
MBS oh wait nvm that wasnt statement credit showing up on amex, that was ach push, lol [21:58]
rg mickeemouse: just go get a moneypak [21:59]
rg hang out in the parking lot and see if you can trade someone the prepaid visa for a moneypak [21:59]
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rg like the people who buy your food with food stamps in exchange for cash [21:59]
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rg i used to do that, but then i felt slimey [22:00]
BTC_Bear May I suggest: GameSpot. Plenty of people that will do that. [22:00]
rg used to get like $200 of food for $90 [22:00]
mircea_popescu cause they wanted the cash to buy drugs ? [22:00]
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rg mircea_popescu: its none of my business what they wanted the money for [22:00]
rg all i know is that it wasnt for food [22:01]
mircea_popescu just curious. [22:01]
rg the lady i got them from was my friends mom [22:01]
rg and as far as i know she wasnt a drug user [22:01]
rg probably for gas, cigarettes, booze [22:01]
BTC_Bear rg: that's the way financial services should work. I don't know how PP gets away with it. Imagine going to your bank and before they give you the cash they want to know what your going to do with it. [22:02]
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Staatsfeind rg: Two of those three things are drugs. :þ [22:02]
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rg BTC_Bear: yeah, a sane response would be 'fuck you, none of your business' [22:02]
rg however [22:02]
rg it used to be like that [22:02]
rg it was MASSIVELY abused [22:03]
rg some people get 'cash benefits' with foodstamps [22:03]
Staatsfeind BTC_Bear: Have you ever tried to pull a lot out at once? They do do that. [22:03]
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rg Staatsfeind: i withdrew 3.7k from my personal savings account [22:03]
BTC_Bear Staatsfeind: No, never. But I know better. [22:03]
rg they didnt say shit [22:03]
rg besides 'how do you want it' [22:03]
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Staatsfeind $3.7k isn't enough for them to have to get nosy. [22:04]
Staatsfeind IIRC, $10k is when they get all up in your business. [22:04]
rg they should've. it was for drugs [22:04]
BTC_Bear 10K is the nosy limit [22:04]
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Staatsfeind rg: Why should they? Are you going to go all luke-jr on us? [22:04]
BTC_Bear Mandatory Title X reporting to the fed [22:04]
rg Staatsfeind: i am luke-jr [22:05]
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Staatsfeind Our scamteam days are over! [22:05]
rg -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 16 mndrix +V [modified 50 weeks, 2 days, 16:57:55 ago] [22:05]
shades that sucked [22:05]
rg -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 3 doublec +V [modified 1 year, 21 weeks, 4 days, 05:30:30 ago] [22:05]
rg -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 11 dwdollar +V [modified 1 year, 16 weeks, 1 day, 14:35:08 ago] [22:05]
rg who the fuck are these people? [22:06]
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shades a wheel popped off my board, and I can't find the nut [22:06]
Staatsfeind Hmm, I know I've seen mndrix speak but I don't know about doublec or dwdollar. [22:06]
rg oh mndrix is actually here [22:06]
Cusipzzz they are old school [22:06]
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mickeemouse ;;view +rg [22:06]
mickeemouse FUCK [22:06]
shades fail [22:06]
rg i dont have any orders i think [22:06]
rg ;;view [22:07]
mickeemouse so [22:07]
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mickeemouse If I keep typing in ;;whatever [22:07]
rg i just sell when i feel like it [22:07]
mickeemouse is it always going to braodcast that [22:07]
mickeemouse there's no way it's private [22:07]
rg well [22:07]
rg if you dont want the channel to see, /msg gribble command [22:07]
Cory Didn't Doublec run bitparking? [22:08]
mickeemouse hmmm [22:08]
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Staatsfeind Cory: No idea. [22:08]
rg Cory: that sounds kinda right [22:08]
rg Administrative Contact: [22:08]
rg Chris Double [22:08]
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rg i guess thats a yes [22:09]
rg ok im going to bed [22:09]
Staatsfeind rg: wtf [22:09]
mickeemouse hmmmmmmmmm [22:09]
rg what? [22:09]
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rg my sleeping schedule is reversed [22:10]
Staatsfeind At 4? [22:10]
rg yeah, i got up at 3am [22:10]
Staatsfeind 13 hours of wakefulness doesn't explain it! [22:10]
rg i had a big breakfast [22:10]
Staatsfeind hehe [22:10]
Staatsfeind I'm back in the habit now of getting up at 3am but I don't go to bed until 11pm. [22:11]
rg 2 pancakes, 2 over easy eggs, 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausages, hash browns, onion bagel w/ cream chees [22:11]
rg and about 6 cups of coffee [22:11]
mickeemouse when you write /msg gribble [22:11]
mickeemouse do you have to preface commands with ;; [22:11]
mickeemouse ? [22:11]
imsaguy no [22:11]
rg no [22:11]
mickeemouse oh shit nvbmd [22:12]
mickeemouse I think I got it [22:12]
Staatsfeind Not only do you not have to, it doesn't make a difference. [22:12]
mickeemouse sorry dude, I do NOT use IRC [22:12]
rg this has nothing to do with irc [22:12]
rg its just gribble [22:12]
rg our fearless leader [22:12]
Staatsfeind I precede my commands to gribble with fuckyougribble so obviously I *can*. It just doesn't seem to work. [22:12]
rg ;;echo i rape and i ride [22:13]
gribble i rape and i ride [22:13]
rg ;;echo i ride and i rape [22:13]
gribble i ride and i rape [22:13]
Staatsfeind ;;rate gribble -10 bitch don't listen [22:13]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user gribble has been recorded. [22:13]
mickeemouse lol [22:13]
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rg ;:rate mickeemouse -10000000000 [22:14]
mickeemouse that's not fair [22:14]
mickeemouse glad it was ;: [22:14]
bitcoinTrader lol [22:15]
rg bitcoinTrader, how much did you pay to WU $1k [22:15]
rg ? [22:15]
bitcoinTrader rg:? [22:15]
rg to gigavps [22:15]
bitcoinTrader i received [22:15]
rg oh [22:15]
rg doh [22:15]
BTCHero lol gigavps buys coins [22:16]
mickeemouse what's the best bitcoin escrow provider? [22:16]
rg a trusted person in here [22:16]
rg anyone with over 100 rating [22:16]
BTCHero ;;getrating [22:16]
gribble (getrating ) -- Get rating information for . [22:16]
rg ;;getrating rg [22:16]
gribble User rg, created on Sun Jun 5 10:39:49 2011. Cumulative rating 139, from 70 total ratings. Received ratings: 70 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 67 positive, 3 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=rg Currently authenticated from hostmask rg!~james@deadchildren.org [22:16]
BTCHero ;;getrating BTCHero [22:16]
gribble User BTChero, created on Wed Nov 16 21:49:42 2011. Cumulative rating 65, from 43 total ratings. Received ratings: 43 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 46 positive, 3 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=BTChero Currently authenticated from hostmask BTCHero!~BTCHero@cblmdm72-240-176-178.buckeyecom.net [22:16]
BTCHero Id say anything over 64 is pretty trusted [22:16]
rg hrm [22:16]
imsaguy nanotube will often do it. [22:16]
rg there are 3 people i never rated [22:16]
rg i should find out who they are [22:17]
Cusipzzz i think an older rating date >> higher score. people do a lot of trades to build a score then bam scam :) [22:17]
BTCHero i agree Cusipzzz, it makes me cringe to see someone rated 20 times in their first week here [22:17]
Cusipzzz yep [22:17]
rg 3.5 mo til my account turns 1 year old [22:17]
mickeemouse what's the most you would risk on an escrow? [22:17]
rg Jun 5th is when i go scammer [22:18]
mickeemouse like on one transaction [22:18]
mickeemouse what's just a stupid amount to trade? [22:18]
BTCHero either way, there are a lots of people that are trusted that will provide escrow for free just to help the community [22:18]
imsaguy I will/do [22:18]
rg id do it for free if it wasnt a hassle [22:18]
imsaguy #bitcoin-escrow is set up just for that purpose [22:18]
loktigon sup homeslice esse [22:18]
rg mickee [22:18]
BTCHero mickeemouse if you are homeless 1 dollar is outrageous, if you are a millionaire 1000s wouldn't be [22:18]
rg just stay away from the forums [22:18]
Staatsfeind loktigon: *ese [22:19]
rg for every 1 trustworthy person on the forum, there are 3 scammers [22:19]
BTCHero for every three trustworthy people in irc there is only 1 scammer [22:19]
rg luckily there are no scammers here [22:20]
rg cause i stalk them [22:20]
Cusipzzz lol [22:20]
rg that gammag person changed identities completely, registered a new nick on rizon and everything [22:20]
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Staatsfeind Well, except for us. [22:20]
rg and i tracked him down again [22:20]
rg so he gave up and went back to gammag [22:20]
mickeemouse I've read that it's risky for bitcoin sellers to trade paypal for btc [22:20]
mickeemouse is there a general reluctance to do so [22:20]
rg not only is it risky [22:20]
rg its a dumb idea [22:20]
imsaguy ,,paypal [22:20]
gribble Many popular forms of payment, such as PayPal and credit cards, allow the sender to claw back the money via a 'chargeback'. This is very undesirable for the seller of bitcoins, so you'll often have trouble convincing people to trade on these. See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Payment_methods for comparison of payment methods. [22:20]
loktigon are you payballin' esse? [22:20]
Staatsfeind mickeemouse: It violates their ToS and it's risky as fuck. [22:20]
Staatsfeind loktigon: *ese [22:20]
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rg unless its with a trusted person [22:20]
Staatsfeind Spell it right. [22:20]
Staatsfeind Fuck. [22:21]
rg like imsaguy [22:21]
rg id trade any amount of money with imsaguy over paypal [22:21]
imsaguy I'm a scammer [22:21]
BTCHero yeah i take paypal from imsaguy [22:21]
rg imsaguy loaned me $300 the other day [22:21]
imsaguy via paypal! [22:21]
rg that = awesome [22:21]
BTCHero gasp [22:21]
rg imsaguy: we're square on that, right? [22:21]
imsaguy actually no, you're down about $40 [22:21]
rg what?! [22:22]
imsaguy kidding [22:22]
imsaguy we're good [22:22]
rg oh [22:22]
rg you asshole [22:22]
rg haha [22:22]
mickeemouse When you buy a Money Pak, you can preload as much as you want on it in cash at the store, correct? [22:22]
rg i wouldve believed you [22:22]
imsaguy mickeemouse: up to the store limit [22:22]
loktigon are you sure about that ése ? [22:22]
rg mickee: walmart = $1000 [22:22]
mickeemouse sure, sure [22:22]
mickeemouse k [22:22]
rg other places = $500 [22:22]
mickeemouse so then [22:22]
mickeemouse tell me about a typical BTC for MoneyPak transaction [22:22]
mickeemouse is the physical card exchanged [22:22]
BTCHero no [22:22]
rg user 1 messages user 2, they agree on a rate [22:22]
mickeemouse or just the account # / details [22:22]
Cory ;;buy 600 MTGUSD at 600 PPUSD or $600 MoneyPak [22:22]
gribble Order id 7267 created. [22:22]
loktigon get your accents right esse / ése [22:23]
rg if user 1's rating is higher than user 2 [22:23]
rg user 1 sends first [22:23]
mickeemouse okay [22:23]
mickeemouse what is sent? [22:23]
rg user 2 verifies, sends [22:23]
BTCHero get a pic of the receipt too [22:23]
rg then rates [22:23]
mickeemouse how long does it usually take? [22:23]
rg BTChero: ive been getting pictures of ID's for paypal transfers lately [22:23]
BTCHero depends on if there are sellers or not [22:23]
loktigon homey dont chargeback esse [22:23]
mickeemouse wait wait [22:23]
rg copy of ID + email from PayPal email [22:23]
imsaguy vragnaroda: some people never learn :( [22:23]
mickeemouse one second [22:24]
mickeemouse so [22:24]
BTCHero lol [22:24]
rg mickeemouse: like 5 minutes? [22:24]
mickeemouse you can exchange moneypak for paypal [22:24]
mickeemouse so you're saying that's the first step [22:24]
rg no [22:24]
BTCHero no [22:24]
mickeemouse and why wouldn't all of the disadvantage of uising paypal then apply [22:24]
rg it does [22:24]
loktigon homeslice dont take no paycholo [22:24]
mickeemouse okay, so when you say "user 1 sends first" [22:24]
rg if anything [22:24]
mickeemouse what is user 1 sending again? [22:24]
rg uh [22:24]
BTCHero their moneypak code [22:25]
mickeemouse okay [22:25]
BTCHero the other guy sends the bitcoins [22:25]
rg or bitcoins [22:25]
rg either way [22:25]
mickeemouse that's something on the card? [22:25]
mickeemouse also [22:25]
rg whoevers rating is higher [22:25]
BTCHero really simple concept [22:25]
BTCHero yes [22:25]
rg the other person goes first [22:25]
Staatsfeind loktigon: No, it's fucking ese. Ése is the more common spelling but both are used. “Esse” is just wrong as two boys fucking. [22:25]
mickeemouse say I send you my moneypak code [22:25]
mickeemouse what is to prevent me from taking your bitcoins [22:25]
mickeemouse and immediately spnding all of my moneypak money [22:25]
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mickeemouse aside from a bad reputation [22:25]
rg after you send the moneypak code [22:25]
mickeemouse what's the protection for the seller [22:25]
mickeemouse ? [22:25]
BTCHero because we load it to an account somewhere [22:25]
rg you're welcome to the BTC [22:25]
mickeemouse okay okay [22:25]
rg cause you just purchased it [22:25]
mickeemouse so that's the escrow protection [22:26]
mickeemouse you load the moneypak to a second account [22:26]
rg no.. [22:26]
rg theresn o escrow here [22:26]
rg you send moneypak code [22:26]
rg person redeems it [22:26]
rg then sends BTC when its ok [22:26]
mickeemouse oooohhhhhkay [22:26]
Blitzboom >“Esse” is just wrong as two boys fucking. [22:26]
mickeemouse there's no intermediary? [22:26]
Blitzboom but that’s wrong Staatsfeind [22:26]
mircea_popescu two boys fucking are wrong !? [22:26]
rg have you ever done a drug deal? [22:26]
rg its just like that [22:26]
mickeemouse what if the person who wants to buy seems untrustworthy [22:26]
rg just with bitcoins and moneypaks [22:26]
rg instead of drugs and cash [22:26]
mickeemouse there's no third person you can go through? [22:26]
rg you pay the drug dealer, he counts it, then gives you drugs [22:27]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: It's idiomatic. [22:27]
mickeemouse *sell bitcoins I mean [22:27]
BTCHero you could ask someone trusted to use as escrow, but there isn't a system set up for it if thats what you are asking [22:27]
Staatsfeind Blitzboom: Huh? [22:27]
rg you pay the bitcoin guy, he redeems it, then sends btc [22:27]
rg you shouldnt need an escrow [22:27]
mickeemouse yes, that is what I'm asking, thank you [22:27]
rg if you use the trust system [22:27]
mircea_popescu if you said "two boys fucking the same girl they're not married to" i could have seen it... [22:27]
mickeemouse suppose that someone has however many transactions, say, like 50 [22:28]
rg there are two retarded conversations going on now [22:28]
mickeemouse is there a way of seeing how much the transactions were for? [22:28]
rg no [22:28]
imsaguy mircea_popescu: some would say it inappropriate if I said "been there, done that" [22:28]
mickeemouse thats fucked [22:28]
rg look [22:28]
mickeemouse then I could just trade $1 with myself [22:28]
mickeemouse every day [22:28]
mickeemouse for like [22:28]
mickeemouse 3 months [22:28]
rg your trade amount is no ones business [22:28]
rg but yours and the person [22:28]
mickeemouse true [22:28]
mickeemouse but how do I know that someone's rep [22:29]
imsaguy I like knowing trade amounts [22:29]
mickeemouse isn't just them trading with themselves [22:29]
imsaguy it tells me how much I can trust someone [22:29]
rg mickeemouse: dude [22:29]
rg what did i say [22:29]
mircea_popescu mickeemouse why don't you type full sentences ? [22:29]
rg read the guide [22:29]
mickeemouse k [22:29]
rg before asking more questions [22:29]
mickeemouse k [22:29]
mickeemouse will do [22:29]
danieldaniel mircea_popescu: kind of like me [22:29]
mickeemouse sorry [22:29]
mircea_popescu you're making rg do the same thing too. [22:29]
rg ALL these answers are in the guide [22:29]
rg every single one [22:29]
BTCHero mickeemouse wants to know how to be the best scammer on the block [22:29]
rg mircea thats cause im getting upset [22:29]
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mircea_popescu i know. it's why i said. [22:29]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: Minors sexing is bad, m'kay? [22:29]
imsaguy luke-jr says otherwise [22:30]
rg the more upset i get, the more lines come [22:30]
mircea_popescu o, i thouhgt boy is just idiomatic for nigger. [22:30]
rg mircea careful [22:30]
rg coingenuity will ban you [22:30]
Staatsfeind rofl [22:30]
pirateat40 Staatsfeind, sexting* [22:30]
rg and then get in trouble with nanotube for being a twat [22:30]
mircea_popescu ikr [22:30]
imsaguy coingenuity might ban, but Staatsfeind would unban [22:30]
Staatsfeind That is a bit over the top *but* it was funny as hell, too. [22:30]
mircea_popescu he's gonna be there in like 6 hours reading through the otc and go [22:30]
mircea_popescu WAIT!!! [22:30]
BTC_Bear cultural difference there, he is not in US [22:30]
imsaguy pirateat40: shouldn't you be off stealing coins/ [22:30]
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OneFixt mircea_popescu: keep it friendly =P [22:31]
pirateat40 imsaguy, im all jacked up on NightQuil [22:31]
imsaguy that was friendly in most parts of the world [22:31]
BTCHero nyquil [22:31]
rg it is friendly [22:31]
rg its not like he said [22:31]
mircea_popescu onefixt :p [22:31]
imsaguy only the USA is sensitive [22:31]
rg hey nick you fucking nigger [22:31]
mircea_popescu i think onefixt has "ban" on the highlight list [22:31]
rg thats why everyone had a problem with coingenuity banning Coolty [22:31]
OneFixt no, but that's a good idea mircea_popescu [22:31]
mircea_popescu lol [22:31]
imsaguy the word itself isn't bad [22:31]
rg he didnt call anyone a nigger, he just said 'nigger' which in its self is not bad [22:31]
reeses fuck that shit [22:32]
rg imsaguy: get... out... of my BRAIN [22:32]
BTCHero is it really a piece of wood on a cotton gin? [22:32]
BTCHero thats what some rap song i heard said [22:32]
OneFixt oh alright guys, not like i'm kicking anyone [22:32]
imsaguy rg: you know you like it. [22:32]
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reeses the only thing worse is “the n-word”, cf. louis ck [22:32]
* rg kicks OneFixt [22:32]
mickeemouse one quick question about the double-sided contract mentioned in the guide [22:33]
imsaguy ask [22:33]
rg lol no one does that. [22:33]
mickeemouse The procedure for creating a double-signed document is straightforward: first, party 1 clearsigns the document, [22:33]
mickeemouse what is clearsigning [22:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [22:33]
imsaguy it leaves the text [22:33]
mickeemouse is that putting a digital signature [22:33]
rg mickee: google gpg [22:33]
imsaguy and puts the signature below it [22:33]
mickeemouse no I know about public key [22:33]
imsaguy the random characters [22:33]
mickeemouse so it's just signng without encrypting? [22:33]
mickeemouse that's it [22:33]
rg well theres quite a bit more to it than 'public key' [22:33]
cheebydi someone accepting paysafecards for BTC? neliskybot seems to be dead [22:34]
imsaguy its basically a hash [22:34]
imsaguy so if something changes, the hash will most likely be different [22:34]
rg cheebydi: as far as i know he's the only one who deals wit hthat [22:34]
mickeemouse I know what a digital signature is [22:34]
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imsaguy then your question should have already been answered ;) [22:34]
mickeemouse clearsigning is just appending adigital signature to the plaintext? [22:34]
imsaguy yes [22:34]
mickeemouse okay [22:34]
mickeemouse great [22:34]
imsaguy the hash of the plaintext [22:34]
rg https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+clear+signing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-nightly [22:34]
mickeemouse k [22:35]
imsaguy rg: trim your q's [22:35]
cheebydi rg: alright, ty [22:35]
rg imsaguy: you're not the boss of my browser [22:35]
mickeemouse and then the other side can verify with your public key that you actually did sign exactly the plaintext [22:35]
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rg though it does allow google to stalk me a bit more [22:35]
imsaguy rg: perhaps, but I am the boss of your copy/paste [22:35]
rg https://www.google.com/search?q=%s should work [22:35]
rg shoudlnt it? [22:35]
imsaguy aye [22:35]
imsaguy actually [22:35]
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imsaguy google.com/?q=%s works [22:36]
mircea_popescu gotta be careful with clearisgn cause some media corrupt the text [22:36]
mircea_popescu as in replacing /n with /r/n for instance [22:36]
mircea_popescu also turning /t into spaces and whatnot [22:36]
mickeemouse seems like the best way to do it [22:37]
mickeemouse would be to copy paste into a text editor [22:37]
rg lol awesome. i just crashed firefox nightly [22:37]
mickeemouse then clearsign the ascii [22:37]
rg thats strike 3 [22:37]
mickeemouse right? [22:37]
splatster you could use lmgtfy.com [22:37]
mircea_popescu you could encrypt and sign [22:37]
mickeemouse ha ha [22:37]
rg what ever happened to decent web browsers [22:37]
mircea_popescu rg : use old opera. [22:37]
rg remember netscape communicator? [22:37]
BTCHero whats wrong with chrome? [22:38]
mircea_popescu hey splatster, what happened to #splatterbot ? [22:38]
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rg i *hate* chrome [22:38]
mickeemouse don't see why you would encrypt then sign [22:38]
BTCHero because? [22:38]
rg id rather use dillo or lynx [22:38]
rg cause chrome thinks its babe pig in the city [22:38]
splatster mircea_popescu: it's been renamed to #pebbles [22:38]
mircea_popescu mickeemouse : encrypt and sign. takes care of the text problem [22:38]
rg and doesnt honor my window manager [22:38]
mickeemouse I like the idea of using a third-party escrow service, and I know that they exist [22:38]
mickeemouse what are the drawbacks? [22:38]
rg it has windoze style maxmimize, minimize, close buttons [22:39]
rg mickee: every escrow as of thus far has turned out to be a scam [22:39]
rg and ran away with all the bitcoins [22:39]
BTCHero rg you are a hipster [22:39]
rg no, i said i *dont* like chrome [22:39]
BTCHero hipsters like chrome? [22:39]
BTCHero shit [22:39]
rg yes [22:39]
rg havent you seen the commercials? [22:40]
rg everyone in them is so 'unique' [22:40]
BTCHero lol what? there are commercials for chrome? [22:40]
rg yes [22:40]
BTCHero I don [22:40]
BTCHero t have tv [22:40]
rg and IE [22:40]
rg netscape used to have commercials too [22:40]
Staatsfeind BTCHero: Disable your AdBlock on Hulu and they show up. [22:40]
rg i wonder if you can still download netscape [22:40]
BTCHero I don't use hulu. mostly torrents until recently netflix [22:41]
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rg Hulu is clever [22:43]
mickeemouse hllo [22:43]
rg i have flashblock [22:43]
rg if you block their side ad, the main video wont play [22:43]
mickeemouse what are you trying to watch on Hulu, brother? [22:44]
mickeemouse aren;'t most of their shows shit? [22:44]
rg the last few things i watched were umm [22:44]
BTCHero anyone tried hulu plus and netflix? [22:44]
rg M.A.N.T.I.S., American Gothic, [22:44]
mickeemouse hmmmm, haven't heard of either [22:44]
mickeemouse gotta say, I read through the whole guide [22:45]
rg jack of all trades [22:45]
mickeemouse I still don't understand how you guys know that a user hasn't just been trading with himself [22:45]
rg the adventures of brisco county jr [22:45]
rg mickee [22:45]
mickeemouse to build up a reputation [22:45]
rg ;;gettrust [22:45]
gribble (gettrust [] ) -- Get second-level trust for , starting from . If is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. The result is the sum of min(link1, link2) from to . [22:45]
rg it would be obvious [22:45]
BTCHero ;;gettrust rg [22:45]
gribble Trust relationship from user BTCHero to user rg: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 24 via 16 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=BTCHero&dest=rg [22:45]
rg go to that URL [22:45]
BTCHero no way he could get 24 level 2 trust using that method [22:46]
rg it would tkae so long [22:46]
rg and we'd notice it [22:46]
mickeemouse okay, fair enough, thank you for answering my questions, I'm sure you can understand why someone would be wary about directly exchanging stuff on this site [22:47]
rg mickee: you're fairly safe from scammers here [22:47]
rg if something feels wrong [22:47]
rg bail [22:47]
Staatsfeind rg: Last I watched something on Hulu, when the ads should have played, it just showed a screen saying to turn of my AdBlock so they could continue to provide me with entertainment. After the amount of time the commercial should have taken, it went back to the show. [22:47]
mickeemouse out of academic curiosity, what happens when buyer/seller have the same rating, who sends first? [22:47]
Cory ;;rate mora 1 I bought BTC from him with PPUSD. Smooth transaction. [22:48]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mora has been recorded. [22:48]
BTCHero lol, i don't know if a black screen or a commercial is better [22:48]
rg in my experience [22:48]
imsaguy mickeemouse: whoever goes first. [22:48]
rg be weary of: [22:48]
rg someone offering to send half first [22:48]
rg someone who has lower rating than you but refuses to send first [22:48]
Cory I'm still looking for around 500 MTGUSD. Buying with 500 PPUSD. :) [22:48]
neofutur mickeemouse: he the fastest to click or type :p [22:48]
rg someone who takes a long time between conversations [22:48]
rg (setup for a man in the middle attack) [22:48]
rg someome who offers way over market [22:49]
cheebydi someone selling BTC for PP? [22:49]
rg or someone who comes in claiming to have like 10,000 btc [22:49]
neofutur Cory: I can sell 50 MTGGPB for 82 dollars [22:49]
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mickeemouse do you determine the market rate from whatever's quoted on mtgox? [22:49]
mickeemouse what's way over? 10%? [22:50]
rg no [22:50]
mickeemouse 20? [22:50]
rg just use your best judgement [22:50]
rg sketchy people will make themselves known [22:50]
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rg and even if someone seems 'cool' [22:50]
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splatster rg: I have 32 million BTC selling at $0.01 each, wanna buy?! LOLJK [22:50]
rg dont send first [22:50]
neofutur yes market rate is mostly mtgox rate [22:50]
neofutur http://bitcoin.gw.gd/bitcoin_simple_php_tools/tickers/ticker_usd_btc.php [22:50]
rg scammers will chat you up for hours [22:50]
BTCHero ;;ticker [22:50]
gribble Best bid: 5.32702, Best ask: 5.35678, Bid-ask spread: 0.02976, Last trade: 5.32754, 24 hour volume: 24203, 24 hour low: 5.31, 24 hour high: 5.3998 [22:50]
bruzum i mad first trades with registered usered with good ratings [22:50]
bruzum made my [22:50]
rg bruzum: wasnt it me? [22:51]
rg ;;rated bruzum [22:51]
gribble You have not yet rated user bruzum [22:51]
neofutur ::getrating bruzum [22:51]
neofutur ;;getrating bruzum [22:51]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [22:51]
bruzum rg: nah.. but i was directed by you [22:51]
rg ive been taking a lot of chances with new users lately [22:51]
rg i need to stop [22:51]
bruzum to jine [22:51]
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rg ah yah jine is legit [22:51]
rg mickey: also [22:51]
rg if you have a bad feeling [22:51]
rg there is absolutely *nothing* wrong with asking in here if someone is OK [22:51]
rg liek if someone is rubbing you the wrong way, you can easily ask in here 'hey is this rg guy legit?' [22:52]
Cusipzzz rg is a patzer [22:52]
bruzum and someone would reply "no, he will steal your money to pizza" [22:52]
bruzum +buy [22:52]
bruzum :) [22:52]
rg the reply would probably be [22:52]
rg hes an asshole [22:52]
BTCHero and then everyone will be like no rg is a scammer, then be like no just kidding hes cool [22:52]
rg and quite a fuck face most of the time [22:52]
rg but hes not a scammer [22:52]
bruzum :D [22:52]
bruzum true [22:52]
loktigon rg is legit [22:52]
loktigon the dude has a long history [22:53]
bruzum yeah [22:53]
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rg loktigon is a mormon [22:53]
bruzum why the fuck are you not an op rg + [22:53]
rg bruzum: i am an op at heart [22:53]
BTCHero NEVER DO THAT [22:53]
Staatsfeind bruzum: Are you smoking crack? [22:53]
bruzum Staatsfeind: no. why? [22:53]
BTCHero rg should not be op [22:53]
mickeemouse to an outsider though, it's obviously all circular [22:53]
imsaguy lol [22:53]
bruzum rg: exactly. maybe that's good enough [22:53]
mickeemouse I think the best method is to just split up a transaction into small blocks [22:53]
rg obviously if i was an op i wouldnt pull the same shit i do as a user [22:53]
rg but im not [22:53]
rg so i will [22:54]
loktigon thats true mickeemouse. the otc system doesn't provide you with any assurances [22:54]
imsaguy do /cs access #bitcoin-otc list [22:54]
imsaguy there are plenty of ops [22:54]
mickeemouse when I hear the term 'op' I think of 4chan [22:54]
rg mickeemouse: you will lose money on fees [22:54]
mickeemouse it has a different meaning, I'm guessing? [22:54]
rg and thou shalt not 4chan in here [22:54]
bruzum mickeemouse: op = operator [22:54]
mickeemouse k [22:55]
mickeemouse so [22:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ea44njRTw << check out the guy's showmanship lol. [22:55]
mircea_popescu sometimes i think 100yrs ago would be high comedy. [22:55]
BTCHero ;;t [22:55]
gribble La Marseillaise - YouTube [22:55]
mickeemouse what fees? [22:55]
mickeemouse if it's just between two users here [22:55]
mickeemouse what are the fees? [22:55]
mickeemouse in sending the BTC from one account to another? [22:55]
Lunaqus depends on the age of the coins iirc [22:56]
rg Moneypak is $5 per moneypak [22:56]
rg so if you split it up, you're going to pay 5 * $nummoneypaks [22:56]
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Staatsfeind mickeemouse: It's not just between the two users. It's between the two users and whoever mines that block. [22:56]
loktigon around 5% of OTC users have received a negative rating [22:56]
rg evne legit people have negative ratings [22:57]
rg having a negative doesnt make you a scammer [22:57]
rg just a dumb ass [22:57]
mickeemouse hmmmmmmmmm [22:57]
mickeemouse it's not self-explanatory [22:58]
mickeemouse can someone link me to some more info on the actual mechanics of a moneypak to BTC transfer [22:58]
BicycleHead rg wanna trade? [22:58]
rg ;;getrating BicycleHead [22:58]
gribble User BicycleHead, created on Fri Mar 16 15:29:56 2012. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=BicycleHead Currently authenticated from hostmask BicycleHead!~Bicyclehe@24-177-102-40.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com [22:58]
rg ;;date [22:58]
Cusipzzz there is no link.. you find someone you trust, give them the moneypak code, they send btc once verified [22:58]
rg BicycleHead: will you send me a photo of your ID [22:59]
rg and an email from the paypal email account? [22:59]
mickeemouse OK, so when you say there's a $5 per moneypak fee, who does that money go to, what is it paying for? [22:59]
rg it goes to moneypak [22:59]
BicycleHead sure [22:59]
mickeemouse k [23:00]
mickeemouse what's the fee to buy an actual moneypak? [23:00]
mickeemouse $5? [23:00]
mickeemouse like [23:00]
mickeemouse you go to a walmart [23:00]
mickeemouse ask for a moneypak [23:00]
rg bro [23:00]
rg slow down. [23:00]
rg and think [23:00]
rg OK, so when you say there's a $5 per moneypak fee, who does that money go to, what is it paying for? [23:01]
rg it goes to moneypak [23:01]
loktigon go to walmart and say - yo homes where the moneypakitas at esse ? [23:01]
rg you already know the answer [23:01]
rg you said it [23:01]
mickeemouse ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [23:01]
mickeemouse misunderstanding on my part [23:01]
mickeemouse in the person-to-person transaction [23:02]
mickeemouse no money is lost in my sending you a moneypak [23:02]
loktigon yo homey i heard you guys had moneypacos. hook a cholo up [23:02]
mickeemouse the $5 per is in purchasing them [23:02]
mickeemouse got it. [23:02]
Staatsfeind loktigon: Knock that off. [23:02]
rg jenny get your actupuncture [23:02]
rg actupuncture [23:02]
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rg fuck i cant spell [23:02]
mickeemouse okay, I'm gonna check some shit out [23:03]
mickeemouse oh [23:03]
mickeemouse one last questin [23:03]
rg you want to see some shit? [23:03]
rg i have a picture of some shit [23:03]
BTC_Bear NO [23:03]
mickeemouse can someone link me to hwow to register a key with gribble [23:03]
Staatsfeind rg: Don't post that in this channel :þ [23:03]
rg its in the guide. [23:03]
mickeemouse k [23:03]
rg i didnt post it [23:04]
rg i notced him [23:04]
Staatsfeind OK, cool. [23:04]
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rg you know it wouldnt be so bad, answering noobs questions [23:04]
rg if we didnt have that SAME exact conversation yesterday [23:04]
rg and the day before [23:04]
rg and teh day before [23:04]
loktigon it's in the faqita homeboy [23:05]
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rg are you a moron [23:05]
rg er [23:05]
rg mormon* [23:05]
rg i really didnt mean to call you a moron, for serious [23:05]
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rg erm [23:06]
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rg whats wrong with what he said? [23:06]
loktigon what the hell esse? [23:06]
rg its ese [23:06]
imsaguy um [23:06]
imsaguy learn your shit [23:06]
copumpkin glad to have BTC_Bear back to keep rg in line [23:07]
Staatsfeind loktigon: I told you to knock that off. [23:07]
BTC_Bear No abla español [23:07]
rg hablo [23:07]
BTC_Bear see told ya [23:07]
Staatsfeind BTC_Bear: claro ;) [23:07]
rg claro que si [23:07]
copumpkin al sonar del clarín [23:08]
copumpkin se formó el pelotón [23:08]
Staatsfeind rg: *sí [23:08]
loktigon no im not a mormon [23:08]
rg mi queso es muy feo y bonita [23:08]
loktigon technically it's ése brostaff [23:08]
copumpkin ಠ_ಠ [23:08]
Staatsfeind ‘si’ is ‘if’ :þ [23:08]
rg su cabesa us muy facil [23:08]
rg es* [23:08]
copumpkin ⨀_⨀ [23:08]
Staatsfeind loktigon: Most styleguides, yes. ‘Ese’ is however acceptable and that's not the point. [23:09]
rg chupa me [23:09]
copumpkin ◔_◔ [23:09]
Staatsfeind rg: *chúpame [23:09]
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rg you know i cant read that [23:10]
rg so why even bother? [23:10]
Staatsfeind Because what you said is wrong. I'll accept dropping the diacritics from you, but not the introduction of a space. [23:10]
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imsaguy diacritics are overrated [23:10]
imsaguy just like this conversation. [23:10]
rg yea yea, you're still a virgin but you can spell [23:10]
rg good for you [23:11]
mircea_popescu i didn't know this convo was rated. [23:11]
Staatsfeind lol [23:11]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda is a virgin ?! [23:11]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: 2/10 [23:11]
imsaguy Staatsfeind: thats generous [23:11]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: lol [23:11]
imsaguy mircea_popescu: as long as you ignore the 'exploring' that he did in high school. [23:11]
mircea_popescu he doesn't have smaller digits on his kbd, everything' mapped to weird symbolics imsaguy [23:11]
Staatsfeind Oh, sorry: ⅕ [23:12]
mircea_popescu lmao. i knew it. [23:12]
loktigon it's ése hombre, anything else is poetic license [23:12]
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imsaguy this channel isn't for poetry [23:12]
mircea_popescu you gotta get a license to poetize now ?! [23:12]
imsaguy you should consider #bitcoin-poetry [23:12]
Staatsfeind loktigon: No, ése hombre is definitely wrong, regardless of what styleguide you're using. :þ [23:12]
rg someone buy 14 btc for $84 [23:12]
imsaguy ;;calc 84/14 [23:13]
mircea_popescu that's too low rg. [23:13]
gribble 6 [23:13]
mircea_popescu bitcoins are 25$ each. [23:13]
rg ;;rate BicycleHead 1 didnt rip me off [23:13]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BicycleHead has been recorded. [23:13]
imsaguy ;;calc 14 * [ticker --last] [23:13]
gribble 74.48 [23:13]
imsaguy ;;calc 84 / [ticker --last] [23:13]
gribble 15.7894736842 [23:13]
BicycleHead ;;rate rg 1 smooth transaction [23:14]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 1 to 1. [23:14]
loktigon man if you're gonna be pedantic at least get it right [23:14]
rg i asked grubies to upgrade the business paypal to business [23:14]
rg so i can have a login [23:14]
rg pipe dreams [23:14]
rg i need to figure out how to prevent idiots form selecting BTC as the currency and PayPal as the payment [23:15]
imsaguy ;;idnet loktigon [23:15]
imsaguy ;;ident loktigon [23:15]
gribble Nick 'loktigon', with hostmask 'loktigon!~loktigon@c-98-202-2-109.hsd1.ut.comcast.net', is not identified. [23:15]
imsaguy who are you loktigon? you should ident. [23:15]
rg stupid turds select BTC then select PayPal to pay [23:15]
rg which obviously cant work [23:15]
loktigon im not trading [23:15]
loktigon atm [23:16]
Staatsfeind loktigon: «ése hombre» is *always* wrong. There's no question about that. «Ese» as a substantive is strongly proscribed, but it does occur. [23:16]
imsaguy you don't have to trade to be auth'd [23:16]
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imsaguy it is good to be auth'd even having a conversation in here [23:16]
rg loktigon: are you the tranny? [23:16]
loktigon who is talking about hombre? [23:16]
imsaguy it proves you are you and not some imposter [23:16]
rg ;;seen errdayimgenerat [23:16]
gribble I have not seen errdayimgenerat. [23:16]
rg ;;seen errydayimgenerat [23:16]
gribble errydayimgenerat was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 6 days, 9 hours, 13 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: ;;gettrust rg [23:16]
rg famous last words [23:16]
Staatsfeind loktigon: You were. [23:17]
imsaguy it seems you scare people off rg [23:17]
Staatsfeind 17:12 < loktigon> | it's ése hombre, anything else is poetic license [23:17]
rg for every 1 person i scare off [23:17]
rg theres 3 noobs i helped [23:17]
imsaguy 3 scammers show up/ [23:17]
imsaguy oh [23:17]
rg read my ratings [23:17]
rg 'very helpful' [23:17]
loktigon you claimed it was "ese" when the preferred spellign is actually ése pedantic fail [23:18]
imsaguy read my ratings [23:18]
imsaguy "asshat" [23:18]
imsaguy "abuses ratings" [23:18]
imsaguy doesn't make them true :p [23:18]
rg GaroadRan rg 2011-06-19 03:02:39 1 great seller! ty for the tips :) [23:18]
rg gfinn rg 2011-08-21 22:06:06 1 helped me recover some funds after a trade with another guy went bad [23:18]
loktigon the reason you give for using "ese" (that it's also acceptable) is the same reason why esse is acceptable. both are widely used in english text [23:18]
Staatsfeind loktigon: Now, you're being disingenuous, bordering on dishonesty. [23:18]
rg DeLorean719 rg 2011-10-08 22:49:44 1 first transaction with rapeghost, his positive ratings don't lie, very smooth! [23:18]
rg prophexy rg 2011-10-27 20:48:51 1 Very helpful, loaned me my first BTC :) [23:18]
Staatsfeind No, they aren't. [23:18]
rg hwergy rg 2012-03-15 10:57:17 1 Awesome transaction, very helpful. [23:18]
imsaguy I've never come across ese in "English text" [23:19]
rg andrel rg 2011-11-28 17:11:59 2 Got my first bitcoin from this person. Awesome! [23:19]
rg luke-jr rg 2012-03-08 01:47:20 2 He helped me out when I needed it. [23:19]
rg dude [23:19]
rg im basically god [23:19]
Staatsfeind ‘esse’ in English text occurs when quoting the Latin copula. [23:19]
imsaguy ;;ratingswar rg imsaguy [23:19]
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imsaguy imsaguy wins [23:19]
imsaguy sorry rg [23:20]
rg well [23:20]
rg i dont have a job [23:20]
rg or any income [23:20]
rg so its easy to have more trades [23:20]
imsaguy bitvps.. [23:20]
mircea_popescu i thought you were working with some brit company rg ? [23:20]
rg mircea_popescu: not officially til april 25th [23:20]
mircea_popescu a [23:21]
Staatsfeind rg: When're you moving? [23:21]
rg some time after april 25th [23:21]
mircea_popescu ;;ratingswar mircea_popescu god [23:21]
rg they're paying for me to come out for a week the 25th [23:21]
mircea_popescu Error: "god" is not a valid concept. [23:21]
mircea_popescu hm. [23:21]
imsaguy aww [23:21]
rg at which point we'll work out the rate [23:22]
rg etc [23:22]
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rg i think they might pay for my 'flat' asw ell [23:23]
rg but if not, i have a friend to stay with .. who i really dont want to live with [23:24]
rg for any period of time [23:24]
ne0futur ;;ratingswar mircea_popescu ne0futur [23:24]
rg mircea_popescu: how much does erryday owe you [23:24]
mircea_popescu was 12btc on the 14th [23:24]
rg we can track h...shim down [23:24]
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mircea_popescu eh i figure eventually mans up and comes pay it [23:25]
rg heh [23:25]
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rg its a post-op trans sexual [23:25]
mircea_popescu it's an IDIOMATIC [23:25]
rg 6 days missing, i dunno man [23:25]
copumpkin someone said they spoke to her regularly [23:26]
splatster Anyone have any ideas for a pebbles command/module? [23:26]
mircea_popescu well what can i tell you. [23:26]
rg sh/im was here every day [23:26]
rg being annoying [23:26]
rg and then to disappear when a loan is due.. [23:26]
rg h4ckm3 errydayimgenerat 2012-03-06 03:00:15 1 sHe did in fact shut her* whore mouth [23:26]
rg hackme youre so classy [23:26]
copumpkin I think it was Y0nderboy who knew her [23:27]
rg remember when you pasted your nickserv password and we ghosted you [23:27]
rg for like 3 hours [23:27]
mircea_popescu i had a nickserv pw ? [23:27]
rg http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=errydayimgenerat&sign=ANY&type=RECV [23:27]
rg LOL [23:27]
rg they all say 'him' [23:27]
rg and 'he' [23:27]
rg not you mircea [23:27]
rg h4ckm3 [23:27]
mircea_popescu i think everyone says "him" and "he" just by default on wot [23:27]
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rg yah but he had his cock turned into a vj [23:28]
rg im sure that pisses it off [23:28]
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copumpkin why do we need to talk about someone's privates? [23:28]
rg we dont need to, you pervert [23:28]
imsaguy actually, he didn't [23:28]
judgement51 anyone willing to trade coins for moneypak? [23:28]
rg imsaguy: thats what he told me [23:28]
imsaguy well, thats not what he said in #bitcoin-otc-nsw [23:29]
rg was it the other way around? [23:29]
imsaguy well, thats not what he said in #bitcoin-otc-nsfw [23:29]
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rg actually no [23:29]
rg i dont care [23:29]
rg im going to sleep [23:29]
rg laters [23:29]
copumpkin you have a very odd sleep pattern :) [23:29]
splatster You guys got any ideas for a pebbles command/module? [23:29]
splatster copumpkin: Indeed he does. [23:30]
BTC_Bear .off [23:30]
splatster BTC_Bear: .off? [23:31]
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ne0futur copumpkin: a geek / sysadmin sleep pattern ;) [23:31]
BTC_Bear common, you get it [23:31]
Staatsfeind ne0futur: No, an unemployed sleep pattern. :þ [23:31]
copumpkin ne0futur: I consider myself pretty geeky but I have a more regular sleep pattern :) [23:31]
copumpkin but then again I'm not a sysadmin [23:31]
BTC_Bear sysadmins have no sleep patterns [23:32]
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raw_nector ^ [23:32]
raw_nector we dobt [23:32]
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raw_nector dont [23:32]
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copumpkin BTC_Bear hibernates a lot more often than most bears do [23:32]
copumpkin it's usually once a year [23:32]
imsaguy BTC_Bear: .mute? [23:32]
copumpkin but I'm pretty sure BTC_Bear does it once a day at least [23:32]
Staatsfeind .gtfo [23:32]
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ne0futur well lets say an independant geek / sysadmin sleep pattern ;) [23:32]
BTC_Bear .mute works, as does .gtfo [23:32]
imsaguy hibernation != sleep [23:33]
ne0futur most employed sysadmins also work often at night [23:33]
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mircea_popescu im not a sysadmin and i sleep whenever i feel like it. [23:33]
imsaguy in fact, most bears that wake up from hibernation end up going to sleep pretty quickly ater [23:33]
gmaxwell Attn Windows Bitcoin GUI users: There is a potential security hole fixed by 0.5.3.1 / 0.6.0rc4. PLEASE UPGRADE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69120.0 [23:33]
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mircea_popescu happens at least a coupla times a month [23:33]
splatster Oh come one, he only talks in chan if the person typing the command is authed, which is the same way gribble works [23:33]
imsaguy perhpas, but whens the last time nanotube asked what commands to add to gribble? [23:34]
mircea_popescu but srsly people, go trade a bunch on mpex so i see if it works. [23:34]
imsaguy ;) [23:34]
raw_nector mpex? [23:34]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [23:34]
splatster imsaguy: Meh, I'm just trying to add more shit to it [23:34]
imsaguy why force it? [23:35]
imsaguy just let it be organic [23:35]
splatster okay [23:35]
Cusipzzz and free-range [23:36]
imsaguy whenm something comes up, it comes up [23:36]
imsaguy when* [23:36]
Staatsfeind I'm going to either take a nap or go for a walk and I'm not sure which yet. [23:36]
splatster Staatsfeind: You could go sleepwalking. [23:37]
Cusipzzz Staatsfeind: take a xanax and do both! [23:37]
copumpkin splatster: I want to be able to sign up for IRC notifications (via PM) when an order of over $X is placed/removed on the mtgox order book, where X is configurable. So I can say "let me know when someone places a $200k buy order, even if it's way off at $3 per coin" [23:37]
raw_nector anyone selling bitcoin for PPUSD ? [23:37]
copumpkin that should keep you busy for a little while :) [23:37]
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splatster copumpkin: Maybe if I am allowed to modify the bot in #bitcoin-watch [23:39]
BTC_Bear huh? [23:39]
copumpkin I doubt that monitors depth changes [23:39]
splatster Well it's already hooked in with the API [23:40]
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coingenuity copumpkin: pretty easy [23:44]
coingenuity would take all of, like, 20 minutes [23:45]
copumpkin coingenuity: depends what kind of infrastructure you have to build on :) [23:45]
coingenuity my irc bot rapid proto framework + mtgox api [23:45]
coingenuity == fast build [23:45]
copumpkin I had to build my socket.io interface from scratch, which was a bit of a pain, but after that it wasn't bad [23:45]
copumpkin if you already have an mtgox library it's pretty easy, yeah [23:45]
copumpkin I didn't :) [23:45]
coingenuity yar, socket.io can be a PITA from scratch [23:45]
coingenuity for the moment...that, combined with unreliability, makes my preference the json [23:46]
coingenuity but each has advantages [23:46]
copumpkin well, you're still getting json over socket.io, so I needed a json parser too [23:46]
copumpkin but the nice thing about socket.io is that you get a streaming interface [23:46]
copumpkin instead of having to poll (at least if you don't want to) [23:46]
coingenuity the advantage for me is trade depth on each trade coming through the wire [23:47]
coingenuity lets you do nifty vwaps an shit that the http wont let you do [23:47]
copumpkin yep, I have a program set up to log all depth changes for all of eternity (and seek quickly to build a snapshot of depth at any point in history) [23:47]
copumpkin but it's only half-finished [23:47]
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coingenuity nice nice [23:48]
coingenuity i have a similar logger [23:48]
coingenuity redis ftmfw [23:48]
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coingenuity i kid you not copumpkin the DB is so fast that it can overload PHP in an instant if i lit it iterate from the start on certain apps [23:50]
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copumpkin for depth? there are several interesting questions that arise when logging what's effectively a two-dimensional quantity over time [23:50]
copumpkin or are you logging price? [23:50]
coingenuity im logging EVERYTHING [23:50]
coingenuity depth, price, price change, percent change, signals, prop algo output, trade indicators, yotta yotta yotta [23:51]
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copumpkin ah, but you're logging every depth change message as a unit of its own? [23:51]
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coingenuity yup [23:51]
copumpkin ah, okay [23:51]
copumpkin so that's pretty hard to reconstruct a snapshot of full depth at any particular with [23:52]
copumpkin +time [23:52]
copumpkin I had to jump through some hoops to do that [23:52]
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coingenuity actually, if i wanted to, i could log depth entirely with that as a snapshot ;) [23:52]
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coingenuity i do a full depth snapshot every few seconds and save the analysis [23:53]
coingenuity but could dump the json to DB if i wanted [23:53]
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MBS anyone want to buy a $10 best buy gift card, a $20 lowes gift card, an AMEX gift card, or want a vps that is almost 1/3 of a http://kimsufi.ie 24G server? [23:54]
coingenuity o/ OneFixt [23:55]
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OneFixt o/ [23:58]
coingenuity sup homeboy [23:58]
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draco49 whatsup :) [23:59]
coingenuity wb senor draco49 [23:59]
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draco49 ty [23:59]
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