Forum logs for 18 Apr 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
bigd555 | Anyone doing anything for the holiday? | [00:15] |
bigd555 | special? | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | nope | [00:17] |
vragnaroda | bigd555: World Hemophilia Day? | [00:18] |
bigd555 | Christmas in july | [00:19] |
vragnaroda | That's not a holiday and it ain't July. | [00:19] |
mircea_popescu | im having a holidayeqsue eggplant. | [00:20] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: how can I make Twilight Sparkle cutrer | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | mmm | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | i have no ideea lol, i can't draw to save my life | [00:23] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: would it help if I turned her around so she was facing the content? | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | maybe ? | [00:24] |
bigd555 | wow got banned for talking about christmas in july and making people think it was the 20th because its so close and people think it was about the 20th | [00:25] |
spritecan | ? | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | what ? | [00:25] |
bigd555 | I got banned from bitcoin-otc | [00:26] |
spritecan | Is there any way to order food or cigarretes with only paypal? | [00:26] |
bigd555 | you mean like fast food? | [00:26] |
mircea_popescu | lmao what is that place doing... | [00:26] |
markedathome | heard that dominos was taking paypal. | [00:27] |
spritecan | (10:22:32 PM) bigd555 left the room (Kicked by vragnaroda (Time out.)). | [00:27] |
spritecan | (10:22:32 PM) mode (+b *!*macros_pr@*.fuse.net) by vragnaroda | [00:27] |
spritecan | bigd555: yep | [00:27] |
bigd555 | most restraunts who have a website that you can order from take paypal... | [00:27] |
spritecan | markedathome: unfortunately thats dominoes was just rumour i checked.. :( | [00:27] |
spritecan | I can only find credit/debit card or cash on delivery | [00:28] |
spritecan | bigd555 you are unbanned now | [00:28] |
markedathome | ok. thanks | [00:28] |
vragnaroda | spritecan: He was told it was a five-minute timeout. | [00:29] |
* | markedathome scrubs list of fastfood places | [00:29] |
spritecan | sorry i don't know anything I'm fresh of the boat | [00:29] |
spritecan | i was just writing in case he didn't know | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | what boat is that ? | [00:31] |
spritecan | i dunno irc, bitcoin, | [00:32] |
spritecan | you name it | [00:32] |
spritecan | it's all greek :-$ | [00:33] |
jurov | Azelphur: mpex.py does not work here, it ends with "You have not added MPExes keys." despite i did | [00:34] |
jurov | line 30 should be: | [00:35] |
jurov | if key['fingerprint'].endswith(self.mpex_fingerprint): | [00:35] |
Azelphur | derp, your right must have broke it | [00:35] |
jurov | :) | [00:35] |
spritecan | if key['fingerprint'] == self.mpex_fingerprint: | [00:36] |
Azelphur | jurov: pushed and fixed | [00:37] |
spritecan | Fixed key checking (Thanks jurov!) | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | ow jesus this breaks aegis's win compile ? | [00:37] |
Azelphur | might do | [00:37] |
* | mircea_popescu finds himself suddenly sucked into open source pm ;/ | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | hey aegis, if you read this : these evil people are writing borked code first and fixing it after instead of the other way!!1 | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | also, hips. http://dockera.com/pics/erotic/leg.jpg | [00:39] |
jurov | yeah, and now you broke the news there is > 5 of us... so everyone is typing borked code furiously | [00:40] |
bigd555 | God... Some people... | [00:40] |
mircea_popescu | lol jurov | [00:40] |
* | mircea_popescu is really curious to see how the 1st mpex broker looks like | [00:41] |
mircea_popescu | i want to see these fabled rounded corners and die happy dammit | [00:41] |
ageis | no prob | [00:43] |
ageis | ill update | [00:43] |
vragnaroda | lol | [00:43] |
bigd555 | rj on the rating if you could put that I bought 17.8 btc off you today please do so | [00:43] |
bigd555 | I mean "food" doesnt tell much and this IS our 2nd trade | [00:44] |
jurov | oh, mpex.py is not supposed to accept arguments? | [00:47] |
Azelphur | jurov: it accepts one argument | [00:47] |
jurov | /mpex.py DEPOSIT 10 | [00:47] |
jurov | Usage: mpex.py |
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Azelphur | that's not the correct syntax for MPEX | [00:47] |
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mircea_popescu | need pipes | [00:47] |
Azelphur | jurov: use the commands listed at http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html | [00:47] |
Azelphur | indeed :P | [00:47] |
jurov | oh nevermind | [00:48] |
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jurov | gentlemen prefer pipes | [00:49] |
KalturaUser_gj3p | ;;buy 100 btc at 0.38 USD | [00:49] |
gribble | Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | well actually the pipe is one of the last characters that doesn't pose threats to anyone | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | like - or _ or etc do to mysql and so on | [00:49] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: http://dashify.me/twi2.png i cleaned it up some | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | it is kinda better... but it doesn't sell me | [00:53] |
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mircea_popescu | in other news : pussy. http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133469965329.jpg | [00:54] |
rawrmage | hmm, maybe she should point at it | [00:56] |
ageis | mirceau_popescu: i can make a mac binary too :D | [01:00] |
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jurov | sry if it was asked before, mircea, what is your policy about depositing stolen bitcoins? | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | o hey that'd be great ageis | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | jurov there is no such policy. | [01:02] |
jurov | you'll accept anything? | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | no, i'll accept bitcoins. | [01:02] |
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Vassend | ;;buy 25 btc at 570.5 NOK | [01:03] |
gribble | Order id 7657 created. | [01:03] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: lol | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [01:10] |
vragnaroda | http://www.newser.com/story/144255/town-considers-changing-its-fing-name.html <-- Austrians, don't you fucking do it. | [01:11] |
vragnaroda | [18:02] < mircea_pope> | no, i'll accept bitcoins. <-- lol @ this. | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | lmao fucking | [01:11] |
mircea_popescu | english is nothing tho. there's a croatian town called Pula which happens to be the way you say penis in romanian (english doesn't really have one, all there is is periphrastic, cock schlong etc) | [01:13] |
kakobreklaa | been there several times | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | and there's a camping in denmark called muie, which is pretty much a good faical | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | ya me too, it's kinda nice. | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | either being popular destinations with the faker crowds (teens, generally) | [01:14] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: We have nice place names, though, like Penile, KY. (Seriously.) | [01:15] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: There's also a Knob Lick, MO. :o | [01:18] |
* | BTC_Bear|hbrntng is now known as BTC_Bear | [01:19] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: just to be sure - BUY/SELL commands expect price per unit? | [01:21] |
smickles | intercourse, KS is my favorite, only 'cause i've been there | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | jurov yes price per unit in satoshi | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | vragnaroda haha knob lick | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | this is pretty cool, i've never visited an overtly & blatantly sexual town in the us | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | google map for intercourse, KS turns up nothing much | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | there's peculiar... | [01:27] |
rawrmage | don't forget intercourse, PA | [01:27] |
smickles | woah! did they rename the town or something? | [01:27] |
jurov | put just intercourse into searchbox | [01:28] |
rawrmage | dunno | [01:28] |
jurov | it offers 5 places | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | Best Western Intercourse Village Inn & Restaurant | [01:28] |
jurov | (but not KS) | [01:28] |
smickles | or maybe I was bamboozled | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | lol poor smickles! | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | herpderps on the internet one day only to discover | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | that his secret place of places was a FRAUD! | [01:28] |
smickles | OMG, It was actually Peabody! | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:30] |
smickles | asshat locals duped me | [01:31] |
jurov | or it exists, just not on google maps | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | right, underground town of intercourse, ks | [01:31] |
smickles | jurov: well, I retraced my route, on the map it's labeled as peabody | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | maybe they name it smickles :D | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | for "that one funny stranger" | [01:32] |
jurov | According to our research there was one registered sex offender living in Peabody, Kansas in July 2011. | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | god that entire sex offender registry crap | [01:33] |
jurov | what you did there in july'11? confess!!! | [01:33] |
smickles | jurov: '06 | [01:34] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: yeah, that guy probably got drunk and pissed on a tree | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:34] |
smickles | BAM! now he's a sex offender | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | IN SIGHT OF CHILDREN!!! | [01:34] |
smickles | nope | [01:34] |
smickles | in sight of concenting adult | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | conceited ? | [01:35] |
smickles | i mean asshat | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:35] |
smickles | my new favorite word | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | i always wondered why hat. why not asscup. | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | assmuff. | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | asscork | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | etc. | [01:36] |
jurov | 'mericans like their expletives short | [01:37] |
smickles | "One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. AsshatA person, of either gender, whose behavior displays such ignorance/obnoxiousness that you would like to make them wear their | [01:37] |
smickles | " | [01:37] |
smickles | yeah, jurov, that's why "fuck" and "shit" are so popular | [01:38] |
jurov | it is effective but lacks proper depth | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | ++ | [01:39] |
jurov | i for one more like russian approach | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | douchebag is worse | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | what fucking sort of an insult is that. | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | it basically does the same thing the prostate + pelvic muscles do : irigate teh vagina | [01:40] |
jurov | they shortened it to douche already | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | soon it'll be dou | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | as in stu is such a dou | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | and then i'll think they're retarded and they'll think it's unfair they can't get good paying jobs. | [01:41] |
smickles | people actually say "stfu" as "stew-foo" | [01:43] |
mircea_popescu | yea, jewz. | [01:45] |
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jurov | CxBTC x 10.83956224 | [02:00] |
jurov | S.MPOE x 361`389 | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | aha ? | [02:00] |
jurov | interesting collection of numeric formats | [02:00] |
jurov | if i had 100k btc, it would be 100`000, right? | [02:01] |
rg | your CxBTC would | [02:01] |
rg | buy S.BBPS | [02:01] |
rg | er | [02:01] |
rg | S.BVPS | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | why does keys.gnupg.net redirect to some obscure mud now ?! | [02:02] |
spritecan | obscure mud? | [02:03] |
mircea_popescu | whoa look at this http://gnupg.net vs http://www.gnupg.net | [02:03] |
rg | probably a misconfigured httpd | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | prolly. | [02:04] |
rg | actually no.. | [02:04] |
rg | it shows the same site for me | [02:04] |
rg | gnupg.net redirects to www. | [02:04] |
rg | ok passport photo time | [02:05] |
rg | bbl | [02:05] |
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mircea_popescu | Life without sex might be safer but it would be unbearably dull. It is the sex instinct which makes women seem beautiful, which they are once in a blue moon, and men seem wise and brave, which they never are at all. Throttle it, denaturalize it, take it away, and human existence would be reduced to the prosaic, laborious, boresome, imbecile level of life in an anthill. | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | lmao isn't he nice. | [02:59] |
rawrmage | the what | [02:59] |
rawrmage | who is that, mircea_popescu | [02:59] |
mircea_popescu | a guy by the name of mencken | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken | [03:00] |
rawrmage | that's an interesting view on sex | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | i thought it was the prevailing view. | [03:02] |
rawrmage | i think it's not entirely true though | [03:03] |
rawrmage | s/entirely/mostly/ | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [03:03] |
rawrmage | life without sexual attraction isn't unbearably dull | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | before or after ? | [03:04] |
rawrmage | what? | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | life without sexual attraction isn't unbearably dull before it becomes without sexual attraction or after ? | [03:05] |
rawrmage | 'becomes without sexual attraction'? | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | ok, in maybe better words : | [03:06] |
mircea_popescu | the life of the gelding seems unbearable to the stallion | [03:06] |
mircea_popescu | but not to the gelding. | [03:06] |
smickles | topic is sex now? | [03:06] |
* | smickles reads log a bit | [03:06] |
rawrmage | oh, I see what you mean | [03:06] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: you realize that there are plenty of people that don't experience sexual attraction without having a modification done (i.e. castration) | [03:07] |
mircea_popescu | i don't so realize. | [03:08] |
rawrmage | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual | [03:08] |
* | smickles clicked the wiki link to melcken, read 'joyist' instead of 'journalist' | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | lol smickles | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage are you aware most genetic deffects cause sterility ? | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | a healthy sex drive is the measuring stick of nature. anything w/o it is borkt. | [03:09] |
rawrmage | lol | [03:09] |
smickles | my .002 btc, sex is "awesome … like a hot dog" but terribly distracting | [03:09] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: yes, I realize genetic defects often cause sterility | [03:10] |
smickles | and seriously, if you're not having kids, and your are able to, wtf? | [03:10] |
rawrmage | as far as I know, sterility != lack of sexual attraction | [03:10] |
mircea_popescu | smickles haha, i am able to and not intend to. | [03:10] |
mircea_popescu | apparently we're distributed on this spectrum :D | [03:10] |
smickles | lol | [03:10] |
rawrmage | and are you calling asexuals broken now? :P | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | im generally causing trouble. | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | but yes, it is my considered oppinion that frigidity is a condition. | [03:11] |
smickles | I just see value in life, and I see producing children as the thing to do if you value life | [03:12] |
rawrmage | you realize it's completely possible to have relations that aren't centred around sex, right? | [03:12] |
rawrmage | centered | [03:12] |
smickles | I only have one relation where sex is even involved | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage i do not so realize. | [03:13] |
* | mircea_popescu can't usually stand people he doesn;t fuck. | [03:14] |
smickles | maybe a couple where sex is a stifled desire | [03:14] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: where does that leave our relationship :? | [03:14] |
smickles | lol | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | smickles hehe, iternet is ok, just a succession of tubes. | [03:15] |
rawrmage | well you can do that, mircea_popescu! | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | tubes ? | [03:15] |
smickles | I can imagine what you do with tubes | [03:15] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: people have relationships without being centered around sex | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | it's not even possible, that. | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | they might not consumate it, but all relationships squarely rest on the apparatus of sex. | [03:16] |
rawrmage | it is /too/ | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | both mental and otherwise. | [03:16] |
rawrmage | mental sex? | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | when you think someone's pretty cool you're thinking an edulclorated version of "i want them to have my babies" | [03:17] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: so freud likes your relationship w/ your mom ;) | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | i taught freud all he knew hehe | [03:17] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: the "want to have my babies" statement is an unfounded assertation | [03:17] |
* | mircea_popescu knows a certain party whose name starts with v or s isn't awake, because otherwise we'd have seen "edulcorated" :D | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | its very much founded. | [03:18] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: but not always, because some people do not experience sexual attraction to others... | [03:18] |
smickles | not in logic | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | no, in sex. | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage : a rose by any other name. | [03:18] |
rawrmage | sorry? | [03:18] |
smickles | rawrmage: he's asserting that any positive feeling for another is sexual desire | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus. | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | it's latin. it means that things are what they are and words are pale shadows of that. therefore, your distinction is thus proven invalid :D | [03:19] |
smickles | it's just a flawed model of reality | [03:19] |
rawrmage | smickles: oh come on! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_RmSJxtUE) | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | ok rawrmage, consider the problem of a mars rover | [03:20] |
smickles | rawrmage: the people who make that show are atheistic skeptics who value logic and critical thinking, i hear | [03:20] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: your argument is that whether or not we deny the basis of feelings for others they're still based in sexual desire? | [03:20] |
rawrmage | smickles: lol | [03:20] |
mircea_popescu | it has two tracks to move on, a camera to inspect environment with and a claw to manipulate environment with. | [03:20] |
mircea_popescu | now no matter what you use it to do, it will still have been done with the claw. | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | cause that's all there is there. | [03:21] |
rawrmage | we have other methods of appreciating others than sexually | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | no, we do not. | [03:21] |
rawrmage | oh, /I see/ | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | but it's sexy to claim we do. | [03:21] |
mircea_popescu | like telling the girl you'll dump her. | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | then have wild makeup sex. | [03:22] |
smickles | rawrmage: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Transcripts/Feeling_Pinkie_Keen | grep I will | [03:22] |
rawrmage | you're arguing that any feeling we think about another "i like them because they are smart" is because we are designed to feel this way so we reproduce with people with more desireable traits? | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | irrespective of the fact you've been on a deserted island forever. | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | exactly. | [03:22] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: flawed logic | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | your momma! | [03:22] |
smickles | lol | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | hehehe | [03:23] |
rawrmage | just because it may come from sex doesn't mean it has to involve sex | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | mmmmm... | [03:23] |
rawrmage | smickles: lol | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | what, by fiat ? | [03:23] |
smickles | fiat sex | [03:23] |
smickles | :D | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | just because it comes from a chemical plant it doesn;'t have to involve chemicals ? | [03:23] |
rawrmage | smickles: except the moral of the story is " I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means you have to choose to believe in them, and sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way." | [03:23] |
smickles | rawrmage: well, you have to assume that reality exists | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | and btw smickles fiat sex is great, esp if you do it with an older Fiat and a newer girl. | [03:24] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: because the basis of positive feelings comes from selecting favourable traits for evolution doesn't mean that we secretly have to want to have sex with anyone we feel positive feelings about | [03:24] |
smickles | I guess it's just different interpretations of the same thing | [03:24] |
mircea_popescu | why not ? | [03:24] |
rawrmage | example: i think you are a cool person for making MPEx - i do not secretly want to reproduce with you | [03:25] |
smickles | OT: it would be nice if someone could actually prove reality exists | [03:25] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage can you prove this absence ? | [03:25] |
smickles | flawed logic | [03:26] |
rawrmage | you can't prove an absence | [03:26] |
mircea_popescu | smickles it's a moot point tho, proving reality exists. | [03:26] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage sooo if you can't prove it why do you claim it ? | [03:26] |
rawrmage | i fail to reject the hypothesis that I want to have sex with you | [03:26] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: moot, only b/c everyone just assumes the existance | [03:26] |
mircea_popescu | smickles problem of definition moreover. we define reality a certain way, needs no further proof and exists no further than the definition | [03:27] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage you may prefer to not have sex, or want to not want to or whatever. people are complicated. which takes us right back to the original point : | [03:27] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: are you just saying that to be funny in some demented way | [03:27] |
smickles | !! | [03:27] |
gribble | Error: "!" is not a valid command. | [03:27] |
mircea_popescu | if they weren't it'd be fucking dull. | [03:27] |
smickles | troll! | [03:27] |
smickles | you can't just define reality as existing and say that proves it exists | [03:28] |
mircea_popescu | orly. | [03:28] |
mircea_popescu | watch me. | [03:28] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: i thought the original point was that 'life without sex would be really boring' | [03:29] |
smickles | :P implied in my statement is that you can't do that and be sound or cogent in your reasoning | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | rawrmage ya but you mean something different than he does :) | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | smickles haha, you've already proven it for me then. | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | since "cogent" and "sound" kinda presuppose a reality anyway. | [03:29] |
rawrmage | mircea_popescu: i suppose | [03:30] |
* | mircea_popescu this reminds me of like back in hs. | [03:30] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: I already said that everyone assumes reality to exist | [03:30] |
mircea_popescu | smickles : you're doing something like this. "let me tell you a story. so, there's this car. wait. does the car exist ?" | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | well dood... yes, if we're talking in the context where it does, then it does. | [03:31] |
smickles | lol, I think you've misunderstood what I was trying to communicate | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | possibly | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133423819135.jpg << reparations. | [03:32] |
ageis | smickles: Actually, Descartes begins his philosophy by doubting the existence of reality. | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | and in words, no less. | [03:32] |
smickles | ageis: decartes really messed up and needed god to explain reality tho | [03:32] |
ageis | smickles: right | [03:33] |
smickles | he had a strange opinion of animals too | [03:33] |
smickles | and thought humans weren't animals | [03:34] |
ageis | i sure wish my mind was a different substance than my body, but it aint. | [03:34] |
ageis | different type | [03:35] |
rawrmage | tastes like carbon | [03:35] |
smickles | I think the reason he is one of the era enders in philosophy is b/c he messed up 'so bad' people were like, well, we need to do something different | [03:35] |
smickles | not really tho | [03:35] |
smickles | it's just funny tho think of it that way | [03:35] |
mircea_popescu | he's usually quoted in europe w/o the last conjecture, so... it's kinda funny. | [03:36] |
ageis | no, u are right. you get to Hume, and later to the pragmatists, and they all recognize descartes as nonsense | [03:36] |
mircea_popescu | you got 50-50 odds of picking up a philosophy undegrad by pointing out ot her that yes yes but, sum ergo deus est. | [03:36] |
smickles | ageis: I meant it in a more sudden way | [03:36] |
smickles | like his neighbor said, " fuck, descartes, you fucked up so bad, my philosophy just changed" | [03:37] |
mircea_popescu | people are going to wake up in the morning and go... o look! bitcoin-otc-eu-history-of-western-thought-and-fucking | [03:37] |
BTC_Bear | Philosophy Hour? waiting for Zen Tome Hour. :) | [03:38] |
smickles | "and fucking" | [03:38] |
mircea_popescu | who's zen tome ? | [03:38] |
smickles | your first myspace friend | [03:38] |
BTC_Bear | If you know immediately the candle is lit, then the meal was cooked long ago. | [03:38] |
ageis | smickles: yea well, he was accused of putting forth "intentionally weak" proofs of the existence of God and almost was branded a heretic, when really he was earnest. so yeah | [03:39] |
ageis | he fukt up | [03:39] |
mircea_popescu | dun gooft. | [03:39] |
smickles | I saw something not too long ago which was entertaining and a bit on topic here | [03:40] |
mircea_popescu | not possible | [03:41] |
smickles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BfsHsVGNg | [03:41] |
smickles | the title has much of nothing to do with it | [03:41] |
smickles | and there are two versions of the event | [03:42] |
smickles | I link to the one that is not divided into umpteen parts | [03:42] |
smickles | 'cause if you are actually going to watch that, you shouldn't be bothered with clicking "continue" | [03:43] |
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mircea_popescu | apparently my bitcoin-qt croaked | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | last block generated %n seconds ago | [03:47] |
smickles | the first comment I saw on that video was a youtube classic | [03:48] |
smickles | "that was suprisingly easy to masturbate to" | [03:48] |
smickles | and I'll say this and go back in my hole | [03:49] |
smickles | Hitler | [03:49] |
rg | smickles = hitler? | [03:50] |
rawrmage | smickler | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [03:50] |
smickles | I think I have the smickler nick | [03:51] |
smickles | yup | [03:52] |
ageis | Godwin's law | [03:54] |
rg | smickles im going to steal your reporting | [04:25] |
smickles | rg: it's typical accounting stuff. I encourage you to use the system http://www.fasb.org/home | [04:28] |
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BTC_Bear | CPA Student? | [04:44] |
kakobreklaa | !bc,convert eur | [04:44] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 5.04702 U.S. dollars = 3.84125124 Euros | [04:44] |
mircea_popescu | rg : that's a good ideea. | [04:55] |
mircea_popescu | make sure you understand how it goes tho, not end up putting wrong figures in spots | [04:55] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu | [11:28] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu is: Eurozone #bitcoin-otc || http://bitcoin-otc.com || Include hash tag #eu in order notes to group -eu orders. || View all tagged -eu orders here: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu || Exchange rates: !bc,convert CURRENCYCODE || GET BTC WITH ukash/paysafecard ... /msg neliskybot help || options-> http://polimedia.us/btc | [11:28] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Sun Apr 8 19:49:35 2012 | [11:28] |
mircea_popescu | ahh, good morning otc | [11:30] |
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jurov | good afternoon | [13:11] |
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mircea_popescu | hehe | [13:19] |
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mircea_popescu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogenous_money ok, this is possibly the most retarded thing found on wikipedia | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | which is really saying a lot. | [13:41] |
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mircea_popescu | An ‘automatic’ gold currency is part and parcel of a laissez-faire and free-trade economy. It links every nation’s money rates and price levels with the money-rates and price levels of all the other nations that are ‘on gold.’ It is extremely sensitive to government expenditure and even to attitudes or policies that do not involve expenditure directly, for example, to foreign policy, to certain policies of taxation, and, in general, | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | to precisely all those policies that violate the principles of [classical] liberalism. This is the reason why gold is so unpopular now and also why it was so popular in a bourgeois era. It imposes restrictions upon governments or bureaucracies that are much more powerful than is parliamentary criticism. It is both the badge and the guarantee of bourgeois freedom – of freedom not simply of the bourgeois interest, but of freedom in the bourgeo | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | is sense. From this standpoint a man may quite rationally fight for it, even if fully convinced of the validity of all that has ever been urged against it on economic grounds. From the standpoint of etatisme and planning, a man may not less rationally condemn it, even if fully convinced of the validity of all that has ever been urged for it on economic grounds. | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | aha! | [13:57] |
kakobreklaa | mornin | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | heya. | [14:11] |
kakobreklaa | how is it going | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | same old, same odl. | [14:12] |
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kakobreklaa | anyone wants to swap 100btc for 100giga for 1 month (i have giga) | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | we could do that. | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu | push them to mircea_popescu on glbse and send me your bitcoin addy kakobreklaa | [14:57] |
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mod6 | morning :) | [17:09] |
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mircea_popescu | heya | [17:18] |
mod6 | lot of action lastnight :D | [17:19] |
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mircea_popescu | hehe | [17:24] |
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mircea_popescu | actually yest is notable cause there was the first withdrawal ever on mpex | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu | http://peteeyre.com/marv/ this is sorta... well maybe interesting | [17:31] |
mod6 | yah, huh. MARV. looks like he sold quite the number of raffle tix. | [17:35] |
mod6 | Ahh, then he gets cockblocked. | [17:37] |
mod6 | never heard of WePay | [17:38] |
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smickles | < mircea_popescu> actually yest is notable cause there was the first withdrawal ever on mpex << here's hoping it was at a gain | [17:59] |
mircea_popescu | i have no ideea lol | [17:59] |
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mod6 | I was a bit suprised, especially since you're paying interest now on BTC in MPEx accounts. Correct? | [18:22] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [18:23] |
mod6 | *nod* | [18:23] |
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mod6 | ok, i might need a bit of help. | [18:37] |
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mircea_popescu | shoot | [18:37] |
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mircea_popescu | what seems to be the problem mod6 ? | [18:37] |
mod6 | so i was playing with this JSON output from the depth. but it seems that json_to_per() is hosing me over. cause when I get the data back from the PHP, everything is fine, all is there. | [18:38] |
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mod6 | but when that function returns, it eliminates all B/S pairs except for one in that underlying hash. | [18:38] |
mod6 | save one. so I get output like this: | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu | hm | [18:38] |
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mod6 | S.MPOE S => 10992 : 714210 B => 500 : 1000000 | [18:39] |
mircea_popescu | mmm | [18:39] |
mod6 | but thats all i get for that one, and for any other. | [18:40] |
mod6 | anyway, haha. whatever. | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | is there some json spec of key uniqueness ? | [18:40] |
mod6 | i checked it against LINT. | [18:40] |
mod6 | it says its good. | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | it seems to me that your function incorrectly puts the stuff in an array. | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | or maybe that's actually the json spec. | [18:41] |
mod6 | if it was in an array, that would be better, cause then i could just iterate over it and not worry about what keys are there. | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | cause if you simply move the json data to an array obviously you get key collision as all buys are keyed "B" | [18:41] |
mod6 | right. | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | but afaik that's valid as is | [18:42] |
mod6 | i'll figure something out that will work. | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | kk | [18:42] |
mod6 | thanks man :) | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | haha i didn't do anything :D | [18:42] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao weird pic of the day http://www.fhblogs.com/thumbnails/bshd-43.jpg | [19:05] |
mircea_popescu | check out the guy's shorts lmao | [19:06] |
spritecan | oh god | [19:06] |
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mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Good thing this isn't #bitcoin-otc, huh? | [19:15] |
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mircea_popescu | what's that ? | [19:16] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: The picture of the person of questionable gender, and two males. One of the males was black. | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu | i mean this otc you speak of :D | [19:18] |
mcorlett | lol | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | hehe | [19:18] |
mcorlett | Clearly I didn't get it. | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | you think it's a trap ? | [19:18] |
mcorlett | It's a trap. | [19:19] |
spritecan | Is there any way to buy some food with paypal? | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | im sure there is spritecan rg does it allthe time | [19:20] |
spritecan | mircea_popescu: really? wow | [19:20] |
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mcorlett | If he told you, he would have to kill you. | [19:21] |
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spritecan | I've been looking for some time i only have paypal since monday and nowhere seem to sell | [19:21] |
spritecan | Only place I saw was US only | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | ya well... | [19:23] |
spritecan | ? | [19:23] |
mircea_popescu | out of the us it might be more difficult. | [19:25] |
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bigd555 | ;;seen draco49 | [19:28] |
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mcorlett | bigd555: Where's draco hiding? | [19:29] |
bigd555 | idk | [19:30] |
bigd555 | thats why I was checking to see if he has been on | [19:30] |
spritecan | ;;seen rg | [19:30] |
gribble | rg was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: |
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bigd555 | thursday we made a deal when I was going to pay him friday when he sent something out for me... | [19:31] |
bigd555 | he hasnt sent it out or anything...but its not a scam because I havent paid him for it. | [19:32] |
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mircea_popescu | who knows maybe he ran into some troubkle irl | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | ohoho, watch the btc/usd go | [19:46] |
mcorlett | He sounds like a stand-up guy, I'd assume this is because of circumstances beyond his control. | [19:46] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: wtf | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [19:47] |
mcorlett | When did we break $5? | [19:47] |
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mircea_popescu | this morn | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | was a 20k buy that broke the wall | [19:48] |
markedathome | there was a significant btc sell of 10000 on btc-e yesterday afternoon | [19:50] |
markedathome | took about 3 hrs to sell at 4.8 | [19:50] |
mcorlett | markedathome: How is the depth at btc-e? | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder if this is like reverse-arbitrage | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | shitty at best. | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | wait | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | it seriously allows you to add funds via pp ?! | [19:52] |
markedathome | it varies sometimes it has little others has huge amounts | [19:52] |
markedathome | no, pp has long gone | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | still, does about 3-4k btc a day right ? | [19:53] |
markedathome | something like that. it has done much higher recently now that bitinstant allows virtually instant transfers from mtgox/bitcoinica usd deposits | [19:54] |
markedathome | & usd desposits | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | o ya bitcoinica. woder how it's doing | [19:54] |
markedathome | don't dare look | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | 22k. not so horrid. | [19:55] |
markedathome | http://marketscry.info might have more info | [19:55] |
mcorlett | ...SolidCoin? | [19:56] |
markedathome | http://marketscry.info/?s=btcusd&t=100 and alter depth to go back the last 10000 trades | [19:56] |
markedathome | sorry, keep forgetting to switch | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | lol isnt solid coin the hater altchain ? | [19:57] |
mcorlett | Why aren't the arbitraging bots all over this? BTC-E <-> Mt.Gox, all day, every day. | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | because there exist no arbitraging bots. | [19:58] |
markedathome | because it was difficult getting funds into btc-e until bitinstant came along. there is still no reasonably automated way to do it. | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | the arbitraging bots are the bitcoin equivalent of the south sea trading | [19:59] |
mcorlett | Still, keeping a somewhat large balance with both exchanges and manually balancing/topping it off should work, no? | [19:59] |
markedathome | also trade api doesn't exist; the one that i have seen scrapes the screen | [19:59] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45651.0 | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | yaya. | [20:00] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | mcorlett it works fairly well but at some point you have to move cash around and then it gets tricky to avoid downtimes for delays | [20:00] |
markedathome | there are some like dnn (aricie bot) which is a hosted mtgox solution | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | im not saying they don't conceptually existy | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | im just saying that by watching the market it's apparent they don;'t do much | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | if they do anything at all. | [20:01] |
markedathome | then there is the bitscalper bot, which existed but is dangerously crap | [20:01] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | I have one running but funding delays stop it after 2-3 days | [20:02] |
mcorlett | Bigpiggy01Mining: Are the profits noteworthy? | [20:02] |
markedathome | and there is a chrome bot which trades at hourly intervals following the goomba approach | [20:02] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | the profits even out to around 0.7-1.2% a day | [20:03] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | on active days much higher but moving funds around really eat a large piece of your cake | [20:04] |
markedathome | manually you can get about 1% from mtgox -> btc-e -> back on each trade but there is still the problem of hour delays moving bitcoins if you are circulating rather than buying / selling on exchanges at the same time. | [20:04] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | especially if you hit wire delays | [20:04] |
markedathome | Bigpiggy01Mining: do you not use bitinstant? | [20:05] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | you need funds in place on both exchanges to do it with any reasonale guarantee of profit | [20:05] |
markedathome | i've done mtgox- > btc-e with aurumxchange and that was about 2 minutes including opening the email to fund the transfer with mtgox code | [20:06] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | I got slightly burnt a few times trying the buy low here move btc to there to sell approach several times | [20:06] |
markedathome | then bitinstant joined in a week or so later | [20:06] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | yup but aurumexchange were probably making more than you were | [20:07] |
markedathome | aurum was painful at 4.5% but at 6.5% no-one used it then dropped it | [20:07] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | the btc-e - gox spread dropped considerably after bitinstant joined the game that's for sure | [20:08] |
markedathome | i did note at one point that you could go mtgox usd/btc code -> bitcoinica -> btc-e for 0%, 0.7% when there was a mtgox -usd -> btc-e for 4.5% which was very odd | [20:08] |
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mircea_popescu | 1% a day on about what, less than 1k btc Bigpiggy01Mining ? | [20:10] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | around 1500 | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | i guess its not bad, but in a market perspective... you know. | [20:11] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | not an insane amount but it still beats most other investments around | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | problem is the scale. | [20:12] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | the way my setup works more than say 3k becomes non feasible due to lack of market depth | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | exactly what i meant | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | tho i imagined it'd be more like 1k, but anyway i can only see these degree-of-magnitude wise. | [20:14] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | it depends on how many exchange you work between | [20:14] |
markedathome | how many exchanges did you use? | [20:14] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | manually 4 at one point | [20:14] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | with the bot 3 | [20:15] |
markedathome | mtgox/ crypto/tradehill/intersango? | [20:15] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | btcchina/crypto/intersango all of it cross currency | [20:15] |
markedathome | wouldn't have thought any others like bitfloor/bitstamp/vircurex have that much depth | [20:15] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | vircurrex isn't bad but a pain to get cash out of if you aren't a Canadian in Canada | [20:16] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | UGH hold on I mean Virtex | [20:16] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | I think | [20:17] |
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markedathome | do get frustrated with this though http://www.nyse-group.de/bitcoin-arbitrage | [20:19] |
markedathome | cavirtex is canadian | [20:19] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | yeah but sometimes they have really sweet pricing against Euro or CNY | [20:21] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | ROLF I see they don't have WBX listed anymore | [20:21] |
markedathome | have you seen the brendio post on buying up wbx dollar debt funds? | [20:22] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | that was a goldmine until the scammy cunt who ran it decided to ponzi peoples funds | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | Bigpiggy01Mining : did you end up with cash tied in there ? | [20:22] |
markedathome | mp; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76926.msg857181#msg857181 in your girls post she suggests that f.pure.synth isn't backed but I thought you had borrowed a substantial portion of puremining | [20:24] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | some not as bad as many | [20:24] |
markedathome | or has that dropped with the new issues of shares? | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | Bigpiggy01Mining yea, cause brendio is buying like 24k usd of it i think | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | markedathome i tried to borrow. a number of people said they will get me stock. in the end not a single one delivered | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | i strongly suspect the stock does not actually exist as float. | [20:25] |
markedathome | don't know. the ones i thought likely didn't have any in the end. I have my solitary one though! | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | largest packet i could identify was 1 share. | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | ya, you and a couple others do. | [20:26] |
mircea_popescu | but for a stock that supposedly floated 10`000 shares i find it VERY improbable that there's not a single 100 shares to borrow. | [20:26] |
markedathome | oh znort lent 125 to brendio apparently | [20:26] |
spritecan | wahey i finally manage to order some chinese food with paypal | [20:28] |
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mircea_popescu | wd | [20:29] |
spritecan | Order status: Cooking : :) :) :) | [20:30] |
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rg | good day | [20:44] |
markedathome | more glbse fun https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67818.msg857206#msg857206 | [20:44] |
markedathome | more glbse/goat fun I should say | [20:45] |
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mircea_popescu | heya. | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | there is one thing i don't understand markedathome | [20:51] |
markedathome | ? | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | this kid has the time to spend to write novels on the forum | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | but if anyone asks him where are at least some pics of his rigs on that site of his | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | he is "busy". | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | reminds me of that skepsidyne dood, whatever his name was. | [20:52] |
markedathome | heard about that one, wasn't around for it. | [20:52] |
markedathome | SIN? | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | twosend or towsic or something | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | a yes, tawsix. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8167.0 | [20:54] |
markedathome | and shakaru lost on that as well. | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | or so he says. | [20:58] |
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mircea_popescu | But what it comes down to is I'm 1/2 of GLBSE's volume clearly the silent large holders know I will fight for their rights and will fight to keep their assets safe. | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | lol the problem ofcourse here is that he's half of glbse volume trading among his own accounts | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | which is kind of a sad statement for glbse. | [21:04] |
markedathome | i thought he was running a pool hopping service | [21:04] |
markedathome | possible. see how many shares brendio gets from his request | [21:04] |
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mircea_popescu | it's rather unclear to me what exactly he is running. | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | some people seem to think he has a 12gh/s farm, tho i've never seen anything definite. | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | This story combined with the fact that you might actually believe what you are posting (and the fact that you aren't the only one) makes me want to run away from GLBSE and not even consider the new PPT series of bonds available. | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | this. | [21:08] |
markedathome | i thought that was a comment to the person who thought you could change the information regarding a security / bond / or whatever it was | [21:09] |
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mircea_popescu | well, they have some management issues there i'd say. | [21:10] |
mod6 | yeah, what a fiasco. | [21:11] |
mcorlett | Moral of the story? | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | moral of the story... mpex is teh bitcoin exchange. | [21:23] |
mcorlett | Typical Mircea... | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | isn't it :) | [21:24] |
rg | mircea | [21:31] |
rg | why dont you offer some incentive to glbse shareholders | [21:31] |
rg | to come to mpex | [21:31] |
rg | er | [21:31] |
rg | not shareholders | [21:31] |
rg | entities | [21:31] |
rg | who issue shares | [21:31] |
rg | whatever theyre called | [21:31] |
mcorlett | The word you're looking for is "females". | [21:31] |
rawrmage | lol | [21:32] |
rg | mcorlett | [21:33] |
rg | let me migrate your VM | [21:33] |
rg | to the new chicago box | [21:33] |
rg | ok? | [21:34] |
mcorlett | You can shut it down. I won't be renewing the service for now. | [21:34] |
rg | okay | [21:34] |
rg | we have an EU node now btw | [21:34] |
rg | ive found a lot of euro customers like it better, it seems the US boxes just have too much latency | [21:35] |
rg | not that the US boxes suck, its just easy to find an EU provider to get 20ms latency as opposed to like 150ms | [21:35] |
mcorlett | Yeah, if it's any consolation to you, I would've switched to that instead of going for a completely different host if you'd got it up sooner. | [21:35] |
rg | heh its been up for a while | [21:36] |
rg | you sure i can just shut this down? | [21:37] |
rg | nothing you need to grab from it? | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | rg : cause most of them suck. | [21:37] |
rg | i wont delete it for a few days, just in case you remember something you needed | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | lol mcorlett is such a snip :D | [21:38] |
rg | mircea_popescu: he already aired his concerns that it was US based | [21:39] |
rg | and he was EU | [21:39] |
rg | so its not like its a surprise | [21:39] |
rg | i dont blame him | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | i blame him. | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | and canada. | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | but mostly him. | [21:39] |
rg | we lost a lot of customers cause of the migration | [21:39] |
rg | customers would rather have a box that lags out / goes down | [21:39] |
rg | than have to switch | [21:40] |
rg | which is fine | [21:40] |
Azelphur | rg: haha what, that makes no sense | [21:40] |
rg | Azelphur: i dont try to understand the mind of a customer | [21:40] |
Azelphur | did you not migrate data or something? | [21:40] |
rg | ofcourse im migrating the data | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | o hey Azelphur | [21:40] |
Azelphur | your customers are weird | [21:40] |
Azelphur | hey mircea_popescu | [21:40] |
rg | we had to leave the dc due to too much downtime | [21:40] |
rg | so we switched to a much nicer place | [21:41] |
Azelphur | owait, I'm a customer | [21:41] |
Azelphur | self insult! | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | did you see there's now both windows and mac compiled binary ? :D | [21:41] |
rg | and some people decided to just not move | [21:41] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: hehe | [21:41] |
Azelphur | I'm about 50% done with the web interface | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | o hey, that's cool | [21:41] |
* | mircea_popescu is getting really curious to see these fabled sites | [21:42] |
Azelphur | hoping to have a screenshot soon, I'm just working on scraping data from MPEx now | [21:43] |
BTC_Bear | lol | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | where are you scraping iot from ? | [21:44] |
Azelphur | mpex-mktdepth.php | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | a ok lol | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | thought you were actually scraping the mpex.php | [21:44] |
Azelphur | haha | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | i was all omgno | [21:45] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: you make it sound so terrible, yet no JSON output for commands :p | [21:45] |
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mcorlett | OH | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Mortar_firing_Iraq.jpg | [21:45] |
mcorlett | Then again, Mr. Popescu had it coming. | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | whassat mcorlett ? | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | btw, if anyone is curious, here's brendio and the girl conferencing on matters serious : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76926.0 | [21:46] |
mcorlett | The girl doesn't /really/ exist, does she? | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | yes she does? | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | Among the many companies to go public in 1720 is—famously—one that advertised itself as "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is". | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | god i love history. | [21:50] |
mcorlett | You'd have to pay top dollar for a girl with her smarts. | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | so ? | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | are you sayin i ain't got top dollah mr corlett ? :D | [21:52] |
mcorlett | I must have underestimated how much your ventures really bring in, then. | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | i don't see how you could actually estimate. | [21:54] |
mcorlett | guesstimate | [21:54] |
markedathome | South Sea Company, which caused financial ruin for many in the South Sea Bubble (paraphrase wikipedia) | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | indeed markedathome | [21:54] |
mcorlett | http://i.imgur.com/YK5WB.jpg | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | do you mean bitcoin ventures mcorlett ? | [21:55] |
mcorlett | 1800 BTC for that baby. | [21:55] |
markedathome | google takes all the fun out of being well read now... | [21:55] |
mcorlett | mircea_popescu: Yes. | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | well doh. you can actually get the exact figures, they're published. | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | but i am investing over a broad spectrum and have been for close to half a year. if i were to bootstrap on btc revenue it'd be a sad story. | [21:56] |
mcorlett | Does she handle your other shit as well? | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | some. | [21:56] |
mcorlett | I can see how that might work out, then. | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | she's primarily a pretty kick ass copywriter. | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | indeed it does markedathome. then again, at least being well read means you understood it, not just c/p | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | A resolution was proposed in parliament that bankers be tied up in sacks filled with snakes and tipped into the murky Thames. | [22:09] |
BTC_Bear | markedathome: Do you know me, Lord? | [22:12] |
markedathome | ? | [22:12] |
BTC_Bear | Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2 | [22:12] |
markedathome | only had a comprehensive education, and therefore only watched macbeth not read it :-( | [22:13] |
markedathome | and that was the only shakespeare I read. (apart from neil gaiman's twists on the stories) | [22:14] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/April/2012-04-18-201354_1887x1084_scrot.png | [22:14] |
Azelphur | progress >:) | [22:14] |
BTC_Bear | Cliff Notes for me, Reading Shakespeare is torture. | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | scrot ? | [22:14] |
Azelphur | SCReenshOT tool | [22:14] |
Azelphur | I admit it's a terrible name for a piece of software too | [22:15] |
BTC_Bear | scrot.um | [22:15] |
Azelphur | xD | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:15] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: what you think, looking good? :P | [22:15] |
markedathome | oh and watching romeo+juliet because claire danes is hot | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | dude, i totally abstain from any judgement on how things look, | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | seeing how the community seems to agree on one thing only, | [22:16] |
Azelphur | surprise me that does not | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | that being that i have no ideea | [22:16] |
Azelphur | xD | [22:16] |
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mircea_popescu | so you know... not wanting to further embarass myself... | [22:16] |
Azelphur | I don't either, I have a guy that works with me so he did the CSS/HTML | [22:16] |
Azelphur | while I'm doing the django codo monkey stuff | [22:16] |
markedathome | it's a bit er, ... wide | [22:16] |
jurov | at least i have got a better name | [22:17] |
Azelphur | markedathome: it scales down | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | so it's gonna be called bitcoin asset exchange ? | [22:17] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: I think so, sound good? | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | not rly tbh. | [22:17] |
Azelphur | again, this is if I actually finish it | [22:17] |
markedathome | typo in LastTrade | [22:17] |
Azelphur | *shrug* | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | you need something with punch | [22:18] |
Azelphur | Bitcoin asset exchange...WITH ADDED PUNCH *picture of huge fist* | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin asset exchange is like a porn star named Elizabeth Rosemund Whittington | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | there's a reason they're called Kyrra Haze and shit like that | [22:18] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: how would I get whether the asset has gone up/down in value? | [22:19] |
Azelphur | so I can color my rows properly :P | [22:19] |
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mcorlett | Yeah, something with punch... like... um... Mr. Popescu's Option Emporium! | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | mcorlett ima send a spanking squad your way! | [22:19] |
mcorlett | That does pack quite the punch, admittedly. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | Azelphur : compare last trade to prev-last trade ? | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | or you mean averages ? | [22:20] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: yea, I think that's what I want, where do I get that data? | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | well i have a rss and a twitter | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | what'd you prefer ? :) | [22:20] |
Azelphur | haha | [22:20] |
* | mircea_popescu inb4 last trades json | [22:20] |
jurov | you should color rows according to asset WILL got up/down, that'll be more interesting | [22:20] |
Azelphur | jurov: haha, no way to calculate that though? | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | so what'd you like Azelphur ? | [22:21] |
Azelphur | mircea_popescu: I suppose your right that I should pull it from a feed | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | i imagine the rss shouldn't be too bad ? i dunno, im open to support. | [22:22] |
Azelphur | I'd do it with twitter since I need to hook into realtime anyway | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | you do get it somehow for the bot tho don't you ? | [22:22] |
Azelphur | yep, twitter realtime streaming api | [22:22] |
Azelphur | so I can do it like that :P | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | ok so then that! | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | btw, what about "bitcon universal trust & trade services" ? | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | you'd be BUTTS | [22:23] |
Azelphur | lmao | [22:23] |
mod6 | haha | [22:23] |
Azelphur | Asset Pirates? :D | [22:23] |
rg | Az | [22:23] |
rg | can we see | [22:23] |
rg | your rough draft of the front end? | [22:24] |
Azelphur | (20:14:16) Azelphur: mircea_popescu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/April/2012-04-18-201354_1887x1084_scrot.png | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | Assed Pirates lol | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | he's the guy who made a scrot | [22:24] |
Azelphur | xD | [22:24] |
mcorlett | Is scrot the broker or just some interface? | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | You could call it the bee's knees, and have a nice bee with tits for a logo. | [22:25] |
Azelphur | http://freecode.com/projects/scrot | [22:25] |
Azelphur | >.< | [22:25] |
mcorlett | "Recent releases [...] 2003" | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | you releasing it under the bsd terms ?! | [22:25] |
Azelphur | *facedesk* XD | [22:26] |
mcorlett | "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | i like squirrelmail | [22:35] |
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markedathome | i used to like eudora, before it thunderbirdified | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html this btw is a pretty decent author on economics, and this is a pretty decent work | [22:39] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77080.0 << this is really funnay | [22:46] |
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rg | time for an old classic movie | [22:54] |
* | rg needs to blow off some steam | [22:54] |
* | jurov will probably do the same, has headaches over bitcoind listtransactions sematics | [23:04] |
jurov | *semantics | [23:05] |
mcorlett | jurov: Was that an attempt at an inconspicuous call for help? | [23:05] |
jurov | Just trying to figure out how to maintain accurate btc account balances without pingponging too often with bitcoind.. | [23:07] |
mcorlett | You'd be better off not using Bitcoin's accounting functionality altogether. | [23:08] |
jurov | figured that out already | [23:08] |
jurov | but since tx's can appear and vanish (although not very probable if they are past certain age) at pretty any time, good synch strategy is needed | [23:09] |
jurov | okay, worked something out. now it's time to run to US patent office and extort everyone else. | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | hehe go for it | [23:24] |
* | bigd555 (~macros_pr@129.137.28.11) has joined #bitcoin-otc-eu | [23:30] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: That is good but ew @ reading it in translation | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | well if i put it up in french... | [23:33] |
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