Forum logs for 17 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
markedathome when is the bitchfest ^W slapfight ^W conference with dwolla/tradehill ? [00:09]
mircea_popescu mmm didn't know there was one [00:15]
mircea_popescu that's a youtube i'd watch [00:15]
markedathome bitinstants thread about the above https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76866.0;all [00:23]
mircea_popescu merchants effected by bank level reversals, [00:24]
mircea_popescu dwolla can't afford grammar. [00:24]
markedathome the slapfest https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75206.0 [00:26]
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mod6 mircea_popescu: Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/polimedi/public_html/bitcoin/mpex_hook.php on line 81 [00:34]
mircea_popescu yea there's a little surprise being implemented. [00:35]
mod6 oh :) [00:35]
mod6 I don't care what these guys say on the boards. I like the site. [00:36]
mod6 and it LOADS fast over tor. so fuck 'em. [00:36]
mircea_popescu :) [00:37]
rg Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/polimedi/public_html/bitcoin/mpex_hook.php on line 81 [00:38]
rg fail [00:38]
mod6 fail because of mysql or just because of error? see above. [00:39]
rg information leak [00:40]
mod6 I personally like postgres. db2 is aight too. [00:40]
rg warnings = shouldnt be on when production [00:40]
mod6 well, he did call it a ramshackle once, and i like that :D [00:40]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Surprise? :o [00:41]
mircea_popescu yeh. [00:41]
vragnaroda mod6: You load mpoe over Tor? :o [00:41]
mircea_popescu kinda big. [00:41]
markedathome he's going to load mlp vids in that space [00:42]
mod6 i use tor for most stuff out of habit :/ [00:42]
mod6 no. not that kinda stuff markedathome [00:42]
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mod6 like, lofi tube surfing etc. [00:43]
vragnaroda lofi tube surfing? wtf is that? [00:43]
mod6 you know, the tubes :) [00:44]
markedathome flash played through vlc's ascii text video converter [00:44]
mod6 :) [00:44]
mod6 i would use IRC for tor, but it's too much overhead, laaaaaaaaag. [00:46]
mod6 s/for/over/ [00:46]
mircea_popescu ok so big deal announcement : mpex now pays 80% of MPOE base rate (the thing that results from the bond based fixing, currently 1.99% per month) to all balances held. updates daily. [00:48]
mircea_popescu also margin trading is available. [00:49]
kakobreklaa hm? [00:50]
kakobreklaa ah [00:50]
mod6 :D [00:52]
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mod6 and yeah, i guess you guys have a point. at first mpex was just like a few tables. now its obviously much larger. [01:09]
mircea_popescu hm ? [01:12]
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mod6 mircea_popescu: as in, it was a few tables early last week, just a little bit of text, not near as much as now. basically since you've added the BTCUSD Option pairs. [01:16]
mod6 its all good. it still -really- fast compared to other sites imho. [01:17]
mircea_popescu a a yeh. and i really like the charts. [01:17]
mircea_popescu the new ones. [01:18]
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mircea_popescu but the page is merely 21kb, which matters. a lot even. [01:18]
mod6 tbh that was a nice change since yesterday or whatever. but more importantly they're readable. [01:19]
mod6 (the charts) [01:19]
mircea_popescu yeah. i think they're finally big enough. [01:20]
mircea_popescu a lot of tinkering went on trying to get bigger charts on main page but... not really possible. [01:20]
rg so [01:33]
rg something interesting actually came up in -otc [01:33]
rg if someone were to encode kiddie porn into the block chain [01:34]
rg wouldnt that make every bitcoin user guilty of possession of cp? [01:34]
kakobreklaa now that you brought it up its just a question of time till we find out [01:39]
rg the govt might not care about bitcoin now [01:39]
rg but they certainly care about CP [01:39]
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mircea_popescu mmm, wouldn't that be too big ? [01:43]
vragnaroda That's been brought up before. [01:44]
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mircea_popescu come to think about it, if some bloke's full dna snapshot were encoded in the block chain [01:45]
mircea_popescu wouldn't they be immortal ? [01:45]
BTC_Bear hey... [01:45]
mod6 thats an interesting thought. [01:45]
mircea_popescu let's dump things into the block chain! [01:45]
mircea_popescu o i know [01:45]
mircea_popescu POETRY [01:45]
mircea_popescu and i have this stale half of a baloney sandwich... [01:46]
mod6 dan kaminski did a bit of an ascii art tribute to a fallen buddy in the block chain. i saw that on youtube or whatever. from some con he was at last year. [01:46]
BTC_Bear why stop there: 0.10101011 how about software. [01:47]
mircea_popescu windows ME source code [01:48]
rg That's been brought up before. [01:49]
rg so what? [01:49]
* rg puts kiddie porn in the blockhain [01:50]
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rg kiddie porn of me [01:50]
vragnaroda rg: Just that it wasn't new. So far, we haven't seen it, and I'm not sure what the reäction will be. [01:50]
rg well [01:50]
rg im doing it now [01:50]
rg i just have to figure out where to get some [01:50]
mircea_popescu thailand ? [01:51]
rg (im just kidding to anyone whos dense) [01:51]
kakobreklaa eh [01:52]
kakobreklaa dissapoint. [01:52]
mircea_popescu dissacircle [01:52]
rg wow [01:52]
rg NMC->BTC is up [01:52]
rg .0095 [01:52]
mircea_popescu also in the news, hats. http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/15040.html [01:52]
Azelphur when did bitcoin become tf2 [01:53]
rg that bitch could spit out 6 children [01:53]
rg Azelphur: go make your bot do ticker for MPEX! [01:53]
mircea_popescu it does ? [01:53]
Azelphur rg: I'm working on the MPEx frontend [01:53]
mircea_popescu you don;'t mean the thing in -assets ? [01:54]
Azelphur indeed [01:54]
Azelphur I mean the website you bugged me to make :P [01:54]
mircea_popescu o o [01:54]
Azelphur what's the smallest increment of a bitcoin btw? [01:55]
Azelphur google is being useless [01:55]
mircea_popescu hehe btw, you don't mind if aegis puts her compiled .exe off your py script in her github do you ? [01:55]
mircea_popescu satoshi [01:55]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: not at all, consider it GPL [01:55]
Azelphur looks like 10 [01:56]
Azelphur so I'll use DecimalField(max_digits=19, decimal_places=10) [01:56]
kakobreklaa its 8 [01:56]
kakobreklaa decimal places [01:56]
Azelphur 0.000 000 01 BTC = 1 Satoshi (pronounced sa-toh-shee) https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ#What_do_I_call_the_various_denominations_of_Bitcoins.3F [01:57]
kakobreklaa ya [01:57]
Azelphur damn spaces confusing me, 8 it is [01:57]
kakobreklaa that is 8 [01:57]
kakobreklaa :) [01:57]
Azelphur :) [01:57]
mircea_popescu :) [01:57]
Azelphur dunno if I'll ever get to finishing it, I'm often the type of person that starts but never finishes things haha [02:00]
Azelphur but I'll see how it goes :D [02:00]
vragnaroda http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/Pressroom/2012/045.html <-- lmfao @ “The on-line marketplaces have accepted Western Union, Pecunix, PayPal, I-Golder, and cash as payment for illegal drug sales.” [02:01]
mircea_popescu o wow, sr taken down ? [02:02]
Azelphur makes no mention of sr [02:02]
rg SR is a dea honeypot [02:02]
rg they wont out it just yet [02:02]
mircea_popescu for srsly. [02:02]
* Azelphur gives rg a pot of honey [02:02]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: No, not SR. Some other one called “the Farmer's Market” but it used to be called Adamflowers, hence the name Operation Adam Bomb. [02:03]
mircea_popescu On-line Narcotics Marketplace on the TOR Network [02:03]
mircea_popescu would you say there's TWO of those? [02:03]
rg farmers market is way older than sr [02:03]
rg they said its been operating for 6 years [02:03]
kakobreklaa wtf is farmers market [02:03]
rg something like sr [02:03]
mircea_popescu iirc is where you buy edible veggies in the us [02:03]
rg just not bitcoin only [02:03]
rg mircea [02:04]
Azelphur 3 more days till my fudge arrives o/ [02:04]
rg help me brainstorm new services for bitvps to offer [02:04]
Azelphur rg: VDS [02:04]
rg Azelphur: we already tried that [02:04]
mircea_popescu Yesterday, law enforcement officials in Bogota, Colombia, arrested the second defendant, Michael Evron, a United States citizen who lives in Argentina, as he was attempting to leave Colombia. [02:04]
mircea_popescu juicy. [02:04]
rg people just wanted $5 vps instead [02:04]
Azelphur rg: bring it back [02:04]
Azelphur rg: not gamers [02:04]
mircea_popescu rg, i dunno much about hosting tbh. just a user. [02:05]
rg not hosting [02:05]
rg anything [02:05]
vragnaroda Yeah, a farmer's market is where farmers sell stuff directly to consumers supposedly. [02:05]
rg likew e're gnna do usenet, voip [02:05]
rg what else [02:05]
Azelphur Clear USD and BTC pricing across the board (Perhaps a dropdown that switches between them) [02:05]
rg im afraid voip isnt going to be very popular [02:05]
rg usenet, maybe [02:05]
Azelphur rg: I could do you a little pastebin with a few cool ideas [02:05]
vragnaroda Most of it's bullshit, but you can still get good stuff there sometimes. [02:05]
rg we're on the original pastebin - IRC [02:06]
kakobreklaa does it have an url or smth [02:06]
mircea_popescu Between January 2007 and October 2009 alone, defendants Willems and Evron processed approximately 5,256 on-line orders for controlled substances valued at approximately $1,041,244 [02:07]
mircea_popescu this sucks. 1mn in 2 years for 5k boxes ? i wouldn't bother ffs. [02:07]
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Azelphur rg: http://collabedit.com/wdxvb some stuff I came up with :P [02:08]
vragnaroda kakobreklaa: Well, The Farmer's Market is no longer. The farmer's markets I was talking about (and where the Tor thing got its name) are small local things. There's no coördination between them. [02:08]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Yeah, the numbers are laughable. [02:08]
kakobreklaa ah, k [02:09]
mircea_popescu madoff dude makes what, 60bn ? [02:09]
mircea_popescu these schmucks are here rubbing two sticks together. [02:09]
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mircea_popescu Finally, defendants Willems and Evron are charged with participating in a continuing criminal enterprise, which carries a maximum sentence of imprisonment for life and a 20-year mandatory minimum sentence. [02:09]
rg i bet they get off [02:10]
vragnaroda Yeah, if I were on that jury, I'd be like “wtf are they wasting my tax dollars on?” [02:10]
vragnaroda rg: I doubt it but I hope so. [02:10]
mircea_popescu they don't get off. [02:11]
mircea_popescu they are exactly the sort of prey "the legal system" justifies its existance on. [02:11]
mircea_popescu i like nefario, he subs every thread the girl makes. [02:11]
vragnaroda nefario strikes me as a bit odd. [02:12]
rg if he strikes you as odd [02:12]
rg what do i strike you as? [02:12]
mod6 or me, im a goofy fuck. [02:13]
mod6 Kinda like Col. Killgore :) [02:13]
rg maybe bitvps should start selling jappo love pillows [02:14]
rg for btc [02:14]
mircea_popescu focus on core mission lol [02:14]
mircea_popescu you're not here to get people laid, you're here to keep them from getting laid. [02:14]
rg i dont think id call having sex with a pillow 'getting laid' [02:15]
mircea_popescu o ? [02:15]
mircea_popescu that's the original getting laid. [02:15]
mircea_popescu you take the pillow and... [02:15]
rg i just watched Gamer [02:16]
rg and The Ides of March [02:16]
rg and Push [02:16]
rg and The Island [02:16]
rg and Lord of War [02:16]
rg and Heat [02:16]
rg and Tinker Tailor Solder Spy [02:16]
rg The Ides of March = snoozefest [02:17]
rg Tinker Tailor Solder Spy = too english [02:17]
rg Lord of War = has trace elements of nicholas cage [02:17]
Azelphur scumbag rg asks for ideas doesn't look at my paste :( [02:17]
rg i told you [02:17]
rg we're on pastebin [02:17]
rg just tell me here [02:17]
Azelphur lol [02:17]
Azelphur VDS (Good for game servers or CPU intensive applications, make this clear on your product info page) Clear USD / BTC / Other currencies across the whole site (Maybe a dropdown box to select currency?) Managed services... IRCd Game servers Ventrilo/TeamSpeak Mumble Web hosting [02:18]
Azelphur yay for crushing it all into one line o/ [02:18]
mircea_popescu i wonder if -eu is doing more lines than danieldaniel by now. [02:18]
kakobreklaa lol [02:18]
mircea_popescu rg : one ideea might be to offer the first ever bonded bitcoind vps instances. [02:19]
mircea_popescu as in, if you are breached through our fault you get back your losses up to X btc. [02:19]
rg i thought about that [02:19]
mircea_popescu sorta anti-linode [02:19]
mircea_popescu get maybe a confederation of the loaners to back you for a fee, see if it makes sense to pay it. [02:19]
mircea_popescu but proceed cautiously, this is a great way to break your neck. [02:20]
rg whatever happened to the 'cached' option on google [02:20]
mircea_popescu yeah ;/ [02:21]
mod6 its weak that went away, i agree. [02:21]
mircea_popescu google is trying hard to become useless. [02:21]
vragnaroda If you have it held by a third party you trust and that is competent to test your security and that your customers can trust and that can periodically prove he has the BTC to cover a loss he says he can. [02:21]
vragnaroda If all that, it seems like a great fucking idea. :D [02:21]
mircea_popescu maybe start small, up to 1k btc say. most operations can get around with 1k in hot storage [02:22]
mircea_popescu and that's not quite an end-all insurance. [02:22]
rg what im trying to do is build up a fund for bitvps [02:22]
mircea_popescu s/insurance/catastrophe/ [02:22]
rg of about $4k [02:22]
rg its a fund that can pay for *all* servers/services [02:22]
rg for 3 months [02:22]
mircea_popescu "and then give it to pirate and relax" [02:22]
rg assuming we got no income [02:22]
rg well [02:23]
rg i let imsaguy do my bitcoins [02:23]
rg i rather him do it than pirate [02:23]
mircea_popescu ya, what;'s he up to of late, haven't seen him in forever [02:23]
rg hes a pro miner now [02:23]
mircea_popescu o ya ? [02:23]
rg i think so [02:23]
mircea_popescu blonde or brunette ? [02:24]
rg he was getting more power [02:24]
rg and then more video cards [02:24]
mircea_popescu everyone's a pro miner. im doing 5 virtual gh/s yet diff continues to drop [02:24]
kakobreklaa lol [02:25]
rg CxBTC x 182.61035656 [02:28]
rg mircea_popescu: you said this would make me rich [02:28]
rg you lied [02:28]
mircea_popescu lol [02:28]
* mircea_popescu divides the amount by pi [02:28]
pigeons ,,bc,calc in roman rumerals [02:35]
mircea_popescu o look who's here [02:36]
BTC_Bear that'd be cool [02:40]
mircea_popescu 1/14/2012 2 fefox [02:42]
mircea_popescu somebody paid for 2 bfl minis ? [02:43]
ageis mirceau_popescu: https://github.com/ageis/pyMPEx-win32 [02:43]
ageis i realized that exe needs a lot of python dependencies included in the distribution, so it comes to 2.5mb--- plus I think GPG is included [02:44]
mircea_popescu kickass [02:44]
mircea_popescu best to include generously for the wincrowd. [02:44]
mircea_popescu tyvm! [02:44]
pigeons people who use windows are used to large .exes [02:44]
pigeons dotnet users keep a copy of each dll assembly for each exe in its own folder [02:45]
pigeons it's a feature [02:45]
ageis most of the magic is in Python27.dll and a bunch of .pyd's [02:45]
mircea_popescu very cool. [02:46]
markedathome mircea_popescu: hasn't gigamining paid for 4? [02:54]
mircea_popescu i have no ideea [03:15]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc-eu [10:23]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-otc-eu set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Sun Apr 8 19:49:35 2012 [10:23]
mircea_popescu good morning yurp! [10:24]
vragnaroda LOL, I'm glad I'm spreading that spelling. [10:29]
mircea_popescu you are spreading it ? [10:45]
mircea_popescu as far as i'm concerned it was invented by the red guy, aka the king and queen of yurp. [10:45]
vragnaroda I never saw anyone write it that way until I did. [10:58]
vragnaroda Meh. [10:58]
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mircea_popescu lol old meme man :D [11:09]
mircea_popescu http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118289/epcast it's even on imdb lol [11:09]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I did say I hadn't seen it before I used it. It is too obvious not to have ever been used. ;) [11:29]
mircea_popescu :p [11:29]
mircea_popescu honestly i thought you were making a cow and chicken reference. [11:29]
vragnaroda Never heard of it until now. [11:30]
vragnaroda I may have to download it. [11:30]
mircea_popescu jesus wow ? [11:44]
mircea_popescu it's like... the best cartoon ever made. [11:44]
mircea_popescu possibly the most subversive thing to make it to the us television screen since that elizabeth taylor bukkake scene. [11:44]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I just had someone tell me that the U.S. doesn't have any treaties with other countries regarding double-taxing income of foreigners or of Americans abroad. [11:46]
mircea_popescu lol that's bs. [11:46]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Yes, I linked him to http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-trty/ [11:47]
mircea_popescu that works. anecdotally, the three merican womenz living with me here in yurp all benefit from it. [11:47]
vragnaroda Shit was really simple when I was in the Army. I had 90 days after getting back before I had to file and while deployed, there was no income tax so the undeployed parts of the year had more withheld than necessary. [11:50]
mircea_popescu i think the army does a chunk of your accting. [11:51]
mircea_popescu while you're in it i mean. [11:51]
vragnaroda For determining how much of the year one's deployed, they round up to the next month. If you leave Sep 30, that's the whole month of September that's untaxed. [11:51]
vragnaroda Not really in the U.S. (at least not much more than a typical employer). [11:52]
vragnaroda They do have volunteers that'll come and do your taxes for you, though. [11:52]
mircea_popescu where are you going janie! [11:53]
mircea_popescu o, mom, today's volunteer at the army camp night [11:53]
mircea_popescu we're helping the boys do their tax returns. [11:53]
vragnaroda Well, they're somewhat qualified (as in they're people that do taxes most of the day elsewhere) and the computers, etc., are supplied by their day jobs. [11:54]
mircea_popescu yee [11:54]
Jamalaka ;;bc,convert eur [12:18]
gribble 1 BTC = 4.95902 U.S. dollars = 3.78348974 Euros [12:18]
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rg morning [12:53]
mircea_popescu heya. [12:54]
rg hey mircea [13:03]
rg someoen is coming here [13:03]
rg to ask you about options [13:03]
mircea_popescu cool [13:05]
rg looks like he went idle [13:06]
rg but he'll be here eventuallyt [13:06]
mircea_popescu i'll be around. [13:06]
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rg weex [13:09]
rg direct your question at mircea [13:09]
weex hello mircea_popescu ... i just asked this in -otc [13:09]
mircea_popescu o hey weex [13:09]
weex in simple terms what would have to happen for me to be able to profit in this? http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C040T [13:09]
mircea_popescu ok. as you can see the ask is 0.27796098 (btc), that means it costs ~ 1.36478841 usd to buy. [13:11]
mircea_popescu it being a call struck at 4.0 it can be exercised at any point, for a value equal to the diff between the btc/usd rate and the strike. [13:11]
mircea_popescu so right now, with the btc/usd = 4.91 it's worth about 91 cents. [13:11]
weex i see, the price being in btc threw me off there [13:11]
mircea_popescu when the btc/usd price reaches 5.36478 etc you have made back your original investment (in usd) [13:12]
mircea_popescu yeah. [13:12]
weex ok then the seller is not crazy after all [13:12]
mircea_popescu a little crazy. [13:12]
rg tracy morgan got fat [13:12]
mircea_popescu takes some craziness to offer options on btc :) [13:12]
rg in 2 years [13:12]
mircea_popescu who's she ? [13:12]
rg its a he [13:12]
markedathome he in 30 rock [13:12]
rg dont you have american tv? [13:12]
rg or wait [13:13]
weex he was on snl [13:13]
mircea_popescu i have no tv lol [13:13]
* rg checks his calendar [13:13]
rg romania is set to get season 1 of 30 rock in 2021 [13:13]
mircea_popescu lol noob, romania prolly first seeded it on torrents. [13:13]
rg definitely something to be proud of [13:15]
rg Warning: Wrong parameter count for max() in /home/polimedi/public_html/bitcoin/mpex.php on line 66 [13:16]
mircea_popescu lol [13:16]
rg when are you gonna fix these [13:16]
mircea_popescu orly ? [13:16]
rg they make you look less pro [13:16]
mircea_popescu how about you reload that page. [13:16]
weex yeah, warnings all over the place [13:17]
mircea_popescu omg TRY IT [13:17]
rg when do we get new stocks [13:17]
mircea_popescu who's da pro nao, beotch ? [13:17]
weex nice [13:17]
mircea_popescu i clicked on the link weex and then i turned around and shook my head [13:18]
mircea_popescu then i looked again and it was fixed [13:18]
mircea_popescu slave labour ftw. [13:18]
rg mircea question [13:18]
mircea_popescu yeh [13:18]
rg so youre all about people creating front ends to mpex [13:18]
rg doesnt that sort of lower the security of the service [13:19]
rg since a front end will be using the same GPG key [13:19]
mircea_popescu it does, yes. [13:19]
mircea_popescu but people should be allowed to pick the level of security that suits them [13:19]
rg so you have to pay to be secure mhmm.. [13:19]
mircea_popescu they can have straight mpex accts or use a broker or whatev floats their boat. [13:19]
* mircea_popescu open movement fan [13:19]
rg mircea_popescu: so i have another friend [13:20]
rg who wants to invest [13:20]
mircea_popescu cool [13:20]
rg a few thousand dollars [13:20]
rg but he doesnt want to do it through btc [13:20]
rg how do i handle that [13:20]
mircea_popescu well right now you can't handle it, cause you can't issue more shares till may 15th [13:20]
mircea_popescu but in principle you can sell him some of your shares and just hold them in your acct. [13:21]
rg well it'd be completley mpex independant [13:21]
mircea_popescu it would, yea. [13:21]
mircea_popescu on may 15th you get the remainder of your shares in your mpex acct, and just keep his portion there, don't sell it. [13:21]
mircea_popescu that'll be ok. [13:21]
mircea_popescu then if/when he makes a mpex acct you can push them to him [13:22]
mircea_popescu or else, just keep them there indefinitely. [13:22]
rg he doesnt want an mpex account [13:22]
rg he doesnt want to deal with bitcoin at all [13:23]
weex he wants them usd denominated? [13:23]
rg hes a 'real' businessman [13:23]
mircea_popescu well ok, just saying in the general case. [13:23]
mircea_popescu as long as he has shares in you he is dealing with btc anyway. [13:23]
rg not really since i convert all our money to usd [13:24]
rg and then back to btc [13:24]
mircea_popescu makes no diff, you're a btc company. [13:24]
rg we accept paypal! [13:24]
mircea_popescu even so :) [13:24]
rg we dont care about bitcoin [13:24]
rg we just want money [13:24]
mircea_popescu lmao you need a pr person. [13:25]
rg i can barely afford to pay myself [13:25]
rg let alone a pr person [13:25]
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rg tell you what [13:25]
mircea_popescu then stop trolling for free :D [13:25]
rg i will give mpoe-pr a batch of peanut butter cookies [13:25]
rg 2 batches every month [13:25]
rg for her to do pr for me [13:25]
mircea_popescu haha [13:26]
weex rg you should sell t-shirts, thinking of doing that for coindl [13:26]
mircea_popescu you'll have to take that up with her [13:26]
rg weex: i like coindl [13:26]
rg it needs more content [13:26]
rg you might consider hitting up the artists that do album releases on the pirate bay [13:26]
mircea_popescu do you own it weex ? [13:26]
weex rg, write an expose on running a bitcoin business... talk about all the dark dealings [13:26]
weex yeah mircea_popescu [13:26]
mircea_popescu does it make any dough ? [13:26]
rg its brand new [13:27]
weex not yet, just started 15 days ago [13:27]
rg it has a lot of potential [13:27]
rg thats why i stand by it [13:27]
mircea_popescu what's the business model, sell music dlds for .1 btc or something ? [13:27]
rg a few bitvps customers have asked me if i have anything to do with it [13:27]
rg cause i spam it in #bitvps [13:27]
weex sell everything downloadable... take 20% [13:27]
mircea_popescu aha [13:27]
weex well really make it easy for people to list and promote their stuff [13:27]
rg the thing i like about coinDL.com is that its not named 'BitDownloads' [13:28]
rg or something else [13:28]
rg the companies starting with bit* [13:28]
rg need to stop [13:28]
weex coin is the new bit [13:28]
mircea_popescu lol rg, im just giving some guiy bitpal.us [13:28]
mircea_popescu he's making an bitcoin-in-email paupal killer [13:28]
weex oh yeah coinapult [13:28]
mircea_popescu ya that [13:28]
weex mircea_popescu: you should buy something...take about 5 seconds after the txn hits the network for you to begin dl'ing the thing [13:29]
weex it takes* [13:29]
mircea_popescu romania is set to get season 1 of 30 rock in 2021 [13:30]
mircea_popescu lol noob, romania prolly first seeded it on torrents. [13:30]
rg weex: have you considered talking to some of the smaller Indie labels? [13:30]
rg maybe have them put together a pack of their best artists [13:30]
rg in a download pack for 1 btc [13:31]
rg 1 mp3 from each artist [13:31]
mircea_popescu now that is a good ideea. [13:31]
weex not a bad idea rg, you may have a future in the music biz [13:31]
rg im full of ideas [13:31]
rg its just that 1 of 10 are good [13:31]
rg thats why i have grubles [13:31]
mircea_popescu only thing he got more than ideeas are stds [13:31]
rg i tell him my ideas [13:31]
rg and we weed out the dumb ones [13:31]
vragnaroda Jesus, my neighbors are passive aggressive assholes. [13:31]
mircea_popescu o, you're the only one vragnaroda. literally. [13:32]
rg haha , the business under us is our landlord [13:32]
rg every time i go in there [13:32]
vragnaroda lol [13:32]
rg they give me the concerned look 'is everything ok?' [13:32]
rg head tilted to the left [13:32]
vragnaroda Just a second; I'll show you what I'm talking about. [13:32]
vragnaroda This is an old house that's divided into four apartments. Two of these cars belong to the people in one of them: http://i.imgur.com/K8Dx6.jpg [13:35]
vragnaroda (not the white one) [13:35]
rg - [13:35]
vragnaroda (No other cars belong to anyone here other than what's in that picture.) [13:38]
weex looks annoying if the white car is yours but context is everything [13:38]
weex do you have parking 'history' [13:38]
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vragnaroda weex: The lease is explicit about parking there. [13:39]
markedathome is that a vent hose in the window? [13:40]
vragnaroda No, that's just the window divider (which I really need to clean). [13:40]
weex you should sell that picture at coinDL ... write amusing passive aggressive neighbor story in the description [13:42]
mircea_popescu lol, [13:42]
mircea_popescu is the white car driver a hot teen ? [13:42]
mircea_popescu maybe they're desperate for a an angle. [13:42]
weex oh yeah, sorry...hey you wanna grab a cup of coffee sometime? [13:43]
mircea_popescu it's been done before. [13:43]
kakobreklaa mpoe-pr on pirates bank [13:43]
kakobreklaa https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.msg854918#msg854918 [13:43]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: No, that's my brother's. He's lending it to me and another brother while he's traveling abroad (for about six months). [13:44]
mircea_popescu o hey, that is bound to yield high drama payload. [13:44]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda so are the neighbours hitting on you ? [13:44]
vragnaroda No and those neighbors are fucking ugly, anyway. [13:45]
mircea_popescu so then they're trolls could we say ? [13:45]
vragnaroda Yes. [13:45]
mircea_popescu park a bike behind the car. [13:45]
vragnaroda lol, if we did that in this neighborhood, it'd get stolen. [13:45]
mircea_popescu "o, i can see the future. i see ... a cab ride! move out of the sticks, boys" [13:46]
vragnaroda They're probably pissed because the people in one apartment are used to being the only ones parking there and confused by the Texas plates that have been parking there for like three weeks. [13:47]
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mircea_popescu a, so tell em. [13:49]
rg vragnaroda: my room mate has 3 unused/broken SUV's in the drive way [13:50]
rg and i told him he cant do that [13:50]
mircea_popescu Subject: Re: Spring Market OTC Alert! [13:50]
mircea_popescu From: yamail@384.jp [13:50]
vragnaroda We did. More than once. They're retarded stoners, though. [13:50]
mircea_popescu asshats. [13:50]
rg we need new vps clients [13:50]
mircea_popescu A Winning Combination for Savvy Investors [13:50]
mircea_popescu Undiscovered, undervalued junior mining company has quietly accumulated [13:50]
mircea_popescu 4,288 acres of claims in Nevada’s historic gold producing districts… [13:50]
rg i just canceled 7 clients [13:50]
rg due to non payment [13:51]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: lolwut [13:51]
mircea_popescu i am getting mail ;/ [13:51]
ckshock ;;ticker [13:51]
gribble Best bid: 4.93993, Best ask: 4.9615, Bid-ask spread: 0.02157, Last trade: 4.9734, 24 hour volume: 38813, 24 hour low: 4.92006, 24 hour high: 5.005 [13:51]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I think the only way they'll remember is if we have their car towed. [13:57]
mircea_popescu mebbe so [13:57]
mircea_popescu anyone know when glbse first started ? 1.o i mean [14:00]
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rg hrm [14:04]
rg lets see [14:04]
rg created-date: 2011-04-07 16:06:09 [14:04]
rg 7/4/11 [14:04]
mircea_popescu a hey [14:05]
mircea_popescu it jusrt turned 1 yo ? no party ? [14:05]
sedric398 salut [14:06]
rg i dont drink any hot liquids.. [14:08]
rg thats the devils temperature [14:08]
mircea_popescu salut [14:13]
mircea_popescu sooo, the MPEx _average_ transaction is a whopping 67.12853226 btc. [14:14]
ckshock ;;sell 3 btc at 3.6GBP ,neteller [14:15]
gribble Error: '3.6GBP' is not a valid price input. [14:15]
ckshock ;;sell 3 btc at 3.6 GBP ,neteller [14:15]
gribble Order id 7648 created. [14:15]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg854519#msg854519 [14:33]
mircea_popescu i really like the way smickles does reporting. [14:33]
markedathome is that why S.MPOE sold out? [14:33]
markedathome sorry, different one. must read less quickly [14:34]
rg ugh [14:35]
rg its getting hot alreadyu [14:35]
rg mircea [14:37]
rg does mpoe-pr get paid to defame other companies? [14:38]
rg like pirate? [14:38]
kakobreklaa loool [14:38]
rg wow [14:38]
rg smickles reporting is good [14:38]
mircea_popescu rg i think she does that pro bono [14:49]
mircea_popescu markedathome did s.mpoe sell out ? [14:50]
mircea_popescu it's still rocking on dude, what sell out :D [14:50]
markedathome dunno, I thought there was a huge buy yesterday that took it all up? [14:50]
mircea_popescu a a yea [14:51]
rg bitvps needs a huge buy [14:51]
mircea_popescu how huge ? [14:51]
rg mircea_popescu: you mean to tell me [14:51]
rg people who invest in me on mpex [14:52]
rg we're getting 1.99% on it? [14:52]
mircea_popescu um what ? [14:52]
rg interest [14:52]
rg if i leave the 300 or so btcin there [14:52]
rg ill get 1.9 on it? [14:53]
mircea_popescu you get 1.000526625% a day [14:53]
mircea_popescu about 1.7% a month or whatev [14:53]
rg is there a separate stat to show the interest earned [14:53]
mircea_popescu not rly ;/ [14:53]
mircea_popescu but if you keep track of your executed trades its the remainder. [14:54]
mircea_popescu fucking fuse and futex-wait-queue [14:55]
Amiga4000 !bc,convert eur [15:02]
gribble 1 BTC = 4.97002 U.S. dollars = 3.7918822 Euros [15:02]
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mircea_popescu For a couple of projects that I'm working on, I am looking to buy a mining contract. The more hashes the better, provided you can deliver. Only stipulation is that it would need to be pointed at a pool of my choosing. [15:06]
mircea_popescu amazingrando is BUYING hash now ?! [15:06]
rg lol [15:06]
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JWU42 mircea_popescu: I was going to suggest talking to AG [15:16]
mircea_popescu i was talking to him but he kinda went awol. [15:16]
JWU42 he's been busy [15:16]
mircea_popescu gratuitous latex shot of the day http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133466510798.jpg [15:18]
rg woot [15:29]
rg looks like theres a lot of interest in usenet for btc [15:29]
mircea_popescu that is a good ideea yea. [15:30]
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rg we need a company credit card [15:31]
rg how much money per month do you think it would be worth for someone to put a CC in their name [15:31]
rg for us [15:31]
rg PS. Unlike the competition we haven't increase our prices to offer "huge" discounts. In BTCLot Web we keep it clear you will get the best deal. [15:33]
rg umm [15:33]
rg i think thats a jab at us [15:33]
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mircea_popescu rg : just get merchant status neh ? [15:36]
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rg no [15:37]
rg for some of the stuff we want to resell [15:37]
rg they will require a CC on file [15:37]
mircea_popescu it's like 2-3k in fees iirc. [15:38]
rg wait what is? [15:38]
mircea_popescu to get a cc merchant acct. [15:38]
rg i dont want that [15:40]
rg i just want a credit card [15:40]
mircea_popescu a [15:40]
rg h [15:40]
rg i just put the strong arm on the usenet people [15:40]
rg their reseller company contacted me asking what the deal is [15:40]
rg and when i replied they never replied [15:40]
rg so i told them ill go with someone else [15:40]
rg if they dont get it going soon [15:40]
mircea_popescu The 1997 rebellion in Albania was partially motivated by the collapse of pyramid schemes. [15:42]
mircea_popescu lol albania. [15:42]
mircea_popescu lolbania. [15:42]
rg hrm [15:42]
rg mircea [15:42]
rg msg [15:42]
mircea_popescu go ahead [15:42]
rg no [15:42]
rg msg [15:42]
rg its secret [15:42]
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rg its gigabps! [15:46]
rg the miner every other miner wishes they were [15:46]
mircea_popescu lol [15:46]
mircea_popescu i was looking at some compile of mining contracts on glbse [15:46]
mircea_popescu there was gigavps with 50gh/s and everyone else. together, like 25gh/s [15:46]
rg hah [15:48]
rg indeed [15:48]
rg vladmir sold all his kit too [15:48]
gigavps rg you know for a FACT vladimir sold his GPUs? [15:49]
rg gigavps: according to his forum post [15:49]
mircea_popescu i thought the guy himself said so ? [15:49]
rg but thats as much as i know [15:49]
rg he sold it to do ASIC stuff [15:50]
rg i had a friend of mine contact him to buy some gpus [15:50]
gigavps i offered to buy his entire farm [15:50]
gigavps he never responed [15:50]
gigavps responded [15:50]
kakobreklaa mircea_popescu, everyone else on glbse is ~70gh, but 50 is just under half, so still very respectable [15:51]
rg someone said its an april fools joke [15:51]
rg but it was posted on the 4th [15:51]
mircea_popescu kakobreklaa mmm, lemme find that thing again [15:51]
rg Read more details on this in upcoming issue #1 of Bitcoin Magazine. [15:51]
kakobreklaa http://shrani.si/f/26/jg/19wIsYvX/mining6.png [15:51]
kakobreklaa this? [15:51]
rg i guess thats where all the info will be [15:51]
Blitzboom gigavps: you skyped him? [15:51]
kakobreklaa also pure mining is now 10gh iirc [15:52]
Blitzboom i remember he explicitely said he would only respond to skype [15:52]
rg that seems dumb [15:52]
rg why wouldnt you just cater to any communications medium to sell it [15:52]
mircea_popescu yes exactly. [15:53]
rg makes me think hes not serious [15:53]
kakobreklaa ya, puremining has 10k shares released [15:53]
Blitzboom no idea. some people are weird [15:53]
rg imposing little stupid rules liek that [15:53]
mircea_popescu i guess i was glossing over the numbers. [15:53]
rg Blitzboom: thats true [15:53]
rg he is a stranger too [15:53]
rg hes russian [15:53]
Blitzboom he’s a brit [15:53]
Blitzboom a russian brit [15:53]
Blitzboom and been longer around than you, so [15:53]
rg so hes a communist, i get what youre saying [15:53]
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rg hm i think gigavps might be a communist too [15:55]
Blitzboom shut it, ayn rand [15:55]
rg shutup fountainhead [15:55]
rg anyone want 8 btc? [15:56]
rg for ppusd? [15:56]
Blitzboom this is -eu [15:56]
rg so what? [15:56]
Blitzboom USD is the currency of the US [15:56]
Blitzboom you may have more success in #bitcoin-otc [15:57]
rg im aware [15:57]
rg im simply trying to drive more trading traffic to the channel [15:57]
Blitzboom so you are an american imperialist [15:57]
rg sure bro [15:58]
rg whatever you say [15:58]
mircea_popescu and been longer around than you, so << :D [15:58]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: am i wrong ?_? [15:59]
mircea_popescu i don't think so [16:01]
mircea_popescu isn't he like the original miner? [16:01]
Blitzboom one of the bigger early GPU miners i think [16:01]
rg yeah [16:02]
Blitzboom at least he clamis he was 30% of the hashpower once [16:02]
rg he was mining with gpus while cpu mining was the norm [16:02]
mircea_popescu yeah, that. [16:02]
rg Updated Product Pricing for Current Exchange Rates [16:03]
rg 5 Invoices Created [16:03]
rg woot [16:03]
rg money day! [16:03]
mircea_popescu yee [16:03]
mircea_popescu The 1997 unrest in Albania, also known as the Lottery Uprising or Anarchy in Albania [16:04]
mircea_popescu this is hysterical [16:04]
mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_rebellion_in_Albania [16:04]
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mircea_popescu By January 1997 the inevitable end came, and the people of Albania, who had lost $1.2 billion (out of a small population of three million), took their protest to the streets. [16:18]
mircea_popescu dude. just... wow. [16:18]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Albania... Romania... 's all the same! [16:22]
mircea_popescu in a sense, mcorlette, in a sense. [16:23]
rg lol [16:23]
rg this isp that didnt process my cancelation order until it was beyond their 'monthly cancelation' requirement [16:23]
rg is claiming theyre going to send us to collections [16:23]
rg they obviously stalled on purpose [16:24]
mcorlett Do you has proof? [16:24]
rg of course [16:25]
rg thats hwy i told them to feel free [16:25]
rg to send it to colections [16:25]
rg this is the same company who never responded to my requests for an email change [16:25]
rg so one of our invoices went 2 weeks overdue [16:25]
rg stupid people [16:25]
rg this is also the ISP mircea swears by [16:25]
rg :> [16:25]
mircea_popescu lol weren't you in texas ? [16:26]
rg yes [16:26]
rg same employees [16:27]
mircea_popescu what can i tell you, i never had a problem. maybe it's a konspiraci. [16:27]
rg On 18.01.2012 18:00, Jeff Hinkle wrote: [16:29]
rg > How would you like it if you tell me your home address and I put out [16:29]
rg > a post on our forums encouraging people to go there and steal your [16:29]
rg > stuff? This is basically the same things and we do not condone [16:29]
rg > criminal behavior. [16:29]
rg Jeff, [16:29]
rg The material in question is not hosted on GNAX, has nothing to do with GNAX, and won't. [16:29]
rg The above makes it none of your concern. [16:29]
rg I consider this matter closed. Goodbye. [16:29]
rg Cordially yours, [16:29]
rg James Edward [16:29]
rg thats him emailing me about stuff thats none of his business [16:30]
rg he company president [16:30]
rg the* [16:30]
rg so yeah [16:32]
rg its a persona gripe [16:32]
rg completely [16:32]
mircea_popescu maybe he has the hots for you [16:35]
rg maybe hes bored [16:35]
vragnaroda lol, that's mircea_popescu's explanation for everything. [16:36]
mircea_popescu vragnaroda just quoting freud. [16:36]
vragnaroda lol [16:36]
mircea_popescu haha kickass, someone made me a dragon! [16:36]
rg finally [16:37]
rg a bitvps customer needs some work done [16:37]
* rg was so bored [16:37]
mircea_popescu lol [16:37]
mircea_popescu In efforts between the rebels and officers of stylish, very few in number, remain killing nine people, six officers and three civilians. [16:43]
mircea_popescu that's pretty funny lolglish [16:44]
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rg mircea [17:02]
rg i found a way to do my evil plan [17:02]
mircea_popescu wd! [17:06]
rg and its ocmpletley transparent [17:08]
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sedric398 !bc,eur [17:26]
gribble Error: "bc,eur" is not a valid command. [17:26]
Amiga4000 !bc,convert eur [17:27]
gribble 1 BTC = 4.95113 U.S. dollars = 3.76597703 Euros [17:27]
mircea_popescu been about a week now [17:29]
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Amiga4000 you can buy 10000 for 8$ and it will raise. [17:32]
mircea_popescu should be a little cheaper than that :p [17:33]
Amiga4000 sell 10000 at 2$ [17:34]
Amiga4000 and it goes down [17:34]
Amiga4000 easy [17:34]
mircea_popescu hehe i doubt it [17:34]
mircea_popescu someone sold 10k yest and it did exactly nothing for five minutes. [17:34]
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bigd555 ;;seen draco49 [17:45]
gribble draco49 was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 5 days, 10 hours, 38 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: stick to the cli or use GPA [17:45]
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rg im going to get my passport tomorrow [18:07]
mircea_popescu whoa he's taking a vacation [18:07]
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rg hm [18:07]
rg i have his contact info [18:07]
rg if its urgent [18:07]
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nass hey there [18:08]
rg hello [18:08]
nass i'm new in this chat room [18:09]
nass and in Bitcoin World also :p [18:10]
mircea_popescu hello nass [18:10]
nass I just have a simple question [18:10]
nass hi mircea_popescu [18:11]
mircea_popescu so what's the simple q ? [18:12]
nass ah yeah, sorry [18:12]
nass it's a question :p [18:13]
mircea_popescu yes... [18:13]
nass we can talk franch if you want, anyway [18:13]
nass i want to know if it's possible to mine alone [18:13]
nass or maybe with a limited number of people on the same "network" [18:14]
mircea_popescu it is perfectly possible to mine alone with a cpu. [18:14]
mircea_popescu you won't get very much, but yeah. [18:15]
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nass yep, that's what i'm doing [18:17]
nass but as i understood, deepbit as exp is sharing the paquet between many miners... [18:18]
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nass @mircea_popescu thx for the answer [18:21]
nass ;) [18:21]
mircea_popescu np. [18:24]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,calc 5000 [18:25]
mircea_popescu The average time to generate a block at 5000 Khps, given current difficulty of 1577913.4856767 , is 42 years, 51 weeks, 0 days, 16 hours, 49 minutes, and 23 seconds [18:25]
mircea_popescu im not sure your cpu does 5mh/s, but if it does, on _average_ you will need to mine for 43 years to get a block [18:25]
vragnaroda [11:27] < banshee12> | interesting... perhaps the neural circuity that controls homosexuality is related to the circuitry involved in pedophilia <-- lmfao @ #bitcoin [18:28]
vragnaroda Oh, the ignorance. [18:28]
mircea_popescu there should be a fine on misusing terms of art. [18:29]
mircea_popescu random ignoramus says "neural circuitry", $75 assesed. [18:29]
mircea_popescu we can use the proceeds to drop capital gain tax [18:30]
vragnaroda :D [18:30]
mircea_popescu 'If 15% of day traders are profitable,' says Drew Niv, chief executive of FXCM, 'I'd be surprised.' [18:34]
mircea_popescu prolly down by now. [18:34]
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rg im making french toast [18:49]
rg for lunch [18:49]
mircea_popescu enjoi. [18:58]
mircea_popescu i wish glbse had some reasonable means of shorting. [19:00]
rg mircea can i have some shares [19:01]
rg of your thing [19:01]
rg for free? [19:01]
mircea_popescu of what thing ? [19:01]
rg S.MPOE [19:02]
mircea_popescu lol so buy em, you're flush with cash [19:02]
rg no.. free ones [19:02]
mircea_popescu that's a porn site. [19:02]
vragnaroda rg: Sure. Free-beer free. :p [19:02]
mircea_popescu buy 24k of mine ill buy 1k of yours :D [19:03]
vragnaroda Buy them and do with them whatever you want. ;) [19:03]
* rg crashes the market [19:10]
mircea_popescu im so going to offer synthetic PPT.x crap [19:10]
mircea_popescu should be fun. [19:14]
rg im broke [19:15]
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rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:37]
rg duck [19:38]
rg vragnaroda: goose [19:38]
mod6 ha [19:40]
mod6 whats up today. [19:40]
mircea_popescu heya [19:41]
mod6 I see a new dragon, rawr! [19:41]
mircea_popescu hehe yep! [19:42]
mircea_popescu a guy deliered on forum. [19:42]
mod6 nice! [19:43]
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Jamalaka ;;bc,convert eur [19:44]
gribble 1 BTC = 4.96001 U.S. dollars = 3.77273142 Euros [19:44]
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mircea_popescu lol nickserv trolling cusipzzz [19:46]
rg no [19:46]
rg our stupid amsterdam DC shutoff our port [19:46]
rg over an unanswered abuse report [19:46]
rg its all automated [19:46]
rg stupid [19:46]
mircea_popescu what port [19:47]
rg the ethernet port [19:47]
rg thats why cusip pinged out [19:47]
rg amsterdam dc lacks a human touch [19:48]
rg everything is automated [19:48]
mod6 thats a bit draconian :/ [19:48]
rg the best part is [19:48]
rg the abuse reports arent even about us [19:48]
rg its the previous IP owners [19:48]
rg so they literally shutoff our port for no reason [19:48]
mircea_popescu ugh. [19:49]
mircea_popescu wait. the dc took your server offline w/o talking to you ? [19:50]
mircea_popescu ditch them roflmao wtf is this, are they doing you favours or what. [19:50]
mircea_popescu http://xxxlounge.net/stumblize/images/0393a8e223ea1cc3a52499dd6df62609.jpg definitive proof alcohol shrinks [19:52]
rg yes [19:54]
rg wow [20:02]
rg ltos of trading on mpex [20:02]
mircea_popescu mm [20:02]
mircea_popescu whales. [20:02]
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mircea_popescu well rg fix it lol, i gotta talk to the guy. [20:07]
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rg fix what [20:13]
mircea_popescu his vps or whatev [20:14]
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rg it is fixed [20:20]
mircea_popescu cool! [20:27]
bigd555 ey guys [20:41]
bigd555 mircea how much have you made on mpex [20:42]
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mircea_popescu ~ 7 btc so far [20:45]
bigd555 not much but when it takes off it will get some good money... It would be cool to make a site where you can "buy" and "sell" real stocks... But you dont own the stocks you just buy via the value. [20:48]
mircea_popescu that's called a bucket shop and is quite illegal. [20:50]
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bigd555 yea I know but buy a offshore vps and theres not much they can do unless they find your real info. But it would be cool to setup and run. Also I think others would find it nice to use. But make it where it keeps people anonymity. Make sure people know they arent buying real stocks but just investing on the value. Then charge a small surcharge on every trade or every adding and withdrawling [20:53]
bigd555 of bitcoins [20:53]
mircea_popescu except im in the business of growing an actual financial system for bitcoin. [20:54]
bigd555 I realize that... I was just saying it would be cool. [20:54]
mircea_popescu i have enough to contend with the muppets who think they're the lender club of little red riding hood, [20:54]
bigd555 Like I always have been [20:54]
mircea_popescu absolutely don't need to rehash securities history cca 1890 [20:54]
mircea_popescu so in short : it's very, very uncool. [20:54]
mircea_popescu it just seems cool on the surface. [20:55]
bigd555 lol well I am absolutly the type of person to do it. [20:55]
mircea_popescu lol [20:58]
rg yeah remove my name from your paypal wbefore you do it [21:00]
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bigd555 paypal has nothing to do with the discussion rg [21:22]
rg yea but when you get arrested by the govt [21:22]
rg theyre gonna look at your financial info [21:22]
rg ;;seen mcorlett [21:28]
gribble mcorlett was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 5 hours, 4 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: Do you has proof? [21:28]
bigd555 I wont or cant... Take your pick [21:32]
bigd555 I know how to fight and keep protected from large companies. [21:32]
smickles S²CM dividen has been paid, Forward earnings report to follow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg855456#msg855456 [21:32]
mircea_popescu how much did it make ? [21:33]
mircea_popescu 32,64 [21:34]
smickles yup [21:35]
markedathome smickles: should the 'flowing statement' be 'following statement' [21:35]
mircea_popescu lol god i hate typos in signed documents [21:37]
markedathome i think vrag picked it up on the other report (mpoe.etf), but I didn't see it until I read this one closer. [21:39]
rawrmage no he's emphasising his flowing dictionj [21:39]
mircea_popescu well, better fix the master then. [21:41]
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smickles markedathome: heh, thanks for pointing it out, I'll have it corrected in the next report ;) [21:51]
smickles typo's aside I feel like splatster and I have raised the bar in bitcoin securities a little bit [21:53]
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rg smickles [21:54]
rg i like your reporting [21:54]
rg i lost my password generation script [22:00]
rg damn it [22:00]
bigd555 hmm I need to buy 2.5 more coins. [22:00]
mircea_popescu for sure reporting is top notch. [22:01]
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jurov hello Mircea [22:44]
jurov my development is lurching forward and today I come around parsing responses from mpex [22:44]
jurov is there any better machine-parsable format? [22:44]
mircea_popescu what do you mean ? [22:46]
mircea_popescu as in, what data are you trying to parse ? [22:47]
jurov the STAT output [22:47]
mircea_popescu mmm [22:47]
jurov yo get IDs of orders [22:47]
jurov for example [22:47]
mircea_popescu yea ? [22:47]
jurov *to [22:48]
mircea_popescu why is regex no good ? [22:49]
mircea_popescu format is
: @ BTC (order #) 		[22:50]
jurov okay,can do. but then, it will be good if you announce any changes in advance. [22:51]
mircea_popescu i don't intend there be changes. [22:51]
mircea_popescu there's an ideea to develop a json version for it too [22:51]
rg id be interested in json output [22:51]
mircea_popescu umm [22:51]
mircea_popescu how'd it help you rg ? [22:52]
rg live stats [22:52]
rg for my ipo [22:52]
mircea_popescu that has been available for a while ? [22:52]
rg ? [22:52]
rg not in a browser? [22:52]
mircea_popescu lol ok. read the faq omg [22:52]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-mktdepth.php [22:53]
mircea_popescu there's also the volume weighted avg prices, http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php [22:53]
mircea_popescu and ofcourse the sales twitter/rss feeds but i think you know those ? [22:54]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: I thought you was going to implement JSON? [22:54]
mircea_popescu it's on the list Azelphur [22:54]
Azelphur hehe :) [22:54]
Azelphur jurov: what are you building? :P [22:54]
mircea_popescu i'd guess you're both building the same thing [22:55]
Azelphur haha >.< [22:55]
mircea_popescu by now there's > 5 ppl who at least said they were working on it [22:55]
mircea_popescu i'm curious how long it takes till the first one. [22:55]
jurov lol [22:55]
Azelphur lol [22:55]
rg id likve to point out that http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-mktdepth.php [22:55]
rg doesnt have bvps listed [22:55]
mircea_popescu nowai ?! [22:55]
rg http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php [22:55]
rg that does [22:55]
mircea_popescu clerical error. reload. [22:56]
rg 'omg read teh faq!' [22:56]
mircea_popescu hey, it's an entertaining read :D [22:57]
jurov few days ago i have seen (iirc) a little fee per STAT call, now it's free? [22:58]
mircea_popescu its free. [22:58]
mircea_popescu it may come back if i get hammered to shit, but for now it's free. [22:58]
jurov ic [22:59]
mircea_popescu for the record jurov, the chapters of the stat (you may not know all) : [22:59]
mircea_popescu Holdings for (fingerprint ) [23:01]
mircea_popescu Issued today, at [23:01]
mircea_popescu To certify that the aforementioned holds as of the quoted time the following with MPEx : [23:01]
mircea_popescu x [23:01]
mircea_popescu To which add orders in the book fully paid in advance : [23:01]
mircea_popescu : @ BTC (order #) [23:01]
mircea_popescu To which add sums deposited as surety for underwritten option contracts : [23:01]
mircea_popescu BTC for contracts. [23:01]
mircea_popescu Your last few transactions : [23:01]
mircea_popescu On - bought @ BTC, total cost BTC [23:01]
mircea_popescu The Great Seal of the exchange has been duly applied. [23:01]
mircea_popescu last transactions always shows 5 sorted desc by time, rest shows full list. [23:02]
mircea_popescu

separates sections

[23:02]
smickles 22:54 < rg> i like your reporting << thank you :) [23:04]
jurov much better to parse this than trying to redeem my soul from these java monstrosities i had to do recently [23:05]
jurov *enterprise java monstrosities [23:06]
mircea_popescu :p [23:06]
mircea_popescu god i love vlc playlist. i have > 10k songs in there, you can search it and it will random fgrom the search results. [23:07]
spritecan random frgrom the search results? =-O [23:07]
smickles vlc has many good qualities [23:07]
mircea_popescu yes spritecan [23:07]
mircea_popescu say i type in cohe [23:07]
mircea_popescu it plays leonard cohen. [23:08]
spritecan I haven't tried it yet [23:08]
jurov mircea, it would help if the "your last few transactions" items contained the affected order id, too [23:14]
mircea_popescu mmm [23:16]
jurov now it looks like i have to check orders list with my local copy to get fullfilled ones... and when i want to determine the actual price, it's bit hairy [23:17]
mircea_popescu the actual price is what's stated tho, neh ? [23:17]
jurov just thinking loud... let's have orders A and B for the same commodity with different prices set [23:19]
mircea_popescu yeah [23:19]
jurov on next stat call A will be executed completely and B partially , both possibly with different prices that requested [23:19]
mircea_popescu yeah. [23:20]
jurov i will look to last transactions list and try to reconstruct what happened... yeah, it's doable [23:20]
mircea_popescu thing is the actual trade engine is a rather time-tight operation [23:20]
mircea_popescu and orders that don't survive meeting the book never get an id [23:20]
jurov aha [23:21]
mircea_popescu say there's 1mn shares offered @5 [23:21]
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mircea_popescu if you put an order to buy 100k @6 it will die w/o ever having an umber [23:21]
mircea_popescu gets executed @5 and that's all [23:21]
mircea_popescu if it's 1,1mn then you get 1mn executed at 5 and a number order in the book 100k @6 [23:22]
jurov ok. and if there were more than 5 transactions since last stat, only 5 are shown? [23:23]
mircea_popescu also, tits. http://i.imgur.com/7WFm7.jpg [23:24]
mircea_popescu currently capped at 5 yes. [23:24]
jurov 5 plus tits. i see. [23:24]
mircea_popescu lol [23:24]
mircea_popescu it's being researched to have that list expanded to everything since your last stat. [23:25]
mircea_popescu one of the higher priority items on the list. [23:25]
jurov i'd rather suggest to add optional filter to rss feed to show only uesr's transactions.. but dunno how it would work with gpg auth [23:27]
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mircea_popescu i don't see how it would. [23:28]
mircea_popescu i mean i could have a gpg'd rss where each transaction is coded by the owner public key [23:28]
mircea_popescu but i don't think there's any gpg aware rssreaders out there [23:28]
mircea_popescu which kind of exposes how braindead rss is to begin with, but anyway [23:29]
jurov we'll sooner have linux on desktop than universal gpg support [23:31]
jurov incidentally, i am currently working for a startup to create "emailing of secure envelopes" solution [23:32]
jurov they never heard about gpg, tooo.... :( [23:33]
mircea_popescu jesus. [23:33]
mircea_popescu problems solved since 1980, ppl are still trying to "solve" [23:33]
jurov have you read that "worse is better" article? it ruffled a few feathers [23:34]
mircea_popescu not sure. link me. [23:35]
jurov http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html [23:36]
jurov "Unix and C are the ultimate computer viruses." little did he knew, then... [23:38]
jurov mayb penultimate [23:38]
jurov The good news is that in 1995 we will have a good operating system and programming language; the bad news is that they will be Unix and C++. [23:39]
jurov loooool [23:39]
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mircea_popescu haha! hey jurov : this is a fortuitous coincidence [23:44]
mircea_popescu the stat change was actually ready as we were talking, just got commited. [23:45]
mircea_popescu now stat shows all transactions since 1 hr before last stat call. [23:45]
jurov jolly good [23:45]
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mircea_popescu hey cory [23:45]
mircea_popescu o ya i remember that paper hehe [23:46]
mircea_popescu rpg being evil. [23:46]
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rg rg is not evil [23:54]
* jurov bellyfeel rg [23:55]
rg the dog has ticks [23:55]
rg and every time i try to take them off [23:55]
rg it thinks im trying to play with it [23:56]
rg so it runs around and barks like a retard [23:56]
mircea_popescu rpg dood. he's dead. [23:56]
jurov rg doubleplus good [23:56]
rg sure whatever you say brostaff [23:57]
jurov who is rpg? someone from here? [23:57]
Vassend ;;buy 20 btc at 570.5 NOK [23:58]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. [23:58]
mircea_popescu http://www.jwz.org/doc/lemacs.html << 20 year old drama. [23:59]
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