Forum logs for 16 Oct 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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BingoBoingo	;;later tell brg444 have you considered reading codes in sets of 5?	[00:19]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[00:19]
BingoBoingo	shinohai: So, did you write up that thing or is it not news?	[00:21]
danielpbarron	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300110 << why else?	[00:23]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 01:11:05; shinohai: God only wants you to have sex if it is explicitly for the act of procreation, or so I have been led to believe.	[00:23]
BingoBoingo	Because sexing is fun	[00:28]
BingoBoingo	Or else, why anal?	[00:28]
danielpbarron	exactly. why anal?	[00:28]
danielpbarron	why not goat?	[00:28]
BingoBoingo	(Because blowjobs promote procreation by modulating immune response)	[00:28]
BingoBoingo	Anal, because tighter, more stimulating	[00:29]
danielpbarron	i can't imagine it gets more stimulating than a real live fertile womb in which you can grow a baby	[00:30]
BingoBoingo	(Under the immune modulation theory oral sex is never actually technically sodomy for promoting conditions favorable to pregnancy)	[00:30]
danielpbarron	anything else seems like weird fetish to me	[00:30]
BingoBoingo	Have you considered doping your imagination moar?	[00:30]
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danielpbarron	what is that? drugs?	[00:32]
BingoBoingo	Fertile womb and floppy loose roast beef vagina can co-exist	[00:32]
BingoBoingo	Maybe drugs, maybe dehydrated fasting spirit trip in the woods	[00:33]
danielpbarron	i've done plenty of drugs	[00:33]
BingoBoingo	Lots of ways to prime brian in the skull's creativity	[00:33]
danielpbarron	even in the woods	[00:33]
BingoBoingo	But if we are merely considering a potentially viable womb all of a sudden 2/3 of the Mayogendered will plead fertile	[00:34]
danielpbarron	obesity leads to hell	[00:35]
BingoBoingo	Glad to hear you concurr on that point.	[00:35]
BingoBoingo	Though hell comes early for them, don't have to wait for the next life even.	[00:35]
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BingoBoingo	danielpbarron: Can we at least come to a consensus that oral sex is not a deviant form of sodomy	[01:52]
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bagels7	I make whore dollars with my whore mouth	[01:58]
ben_vulpes	good evening bagels7	[01:58]
bagels7	Good evening ben_vulpes	[01:58]
ben_vulpes	how is the ol' moneymaker tonight?	[02:00]
bagels7	I'm a good whore because no matter what you do you should do it well, moreover is it not the will of god	[02:00]
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bagels7	well I didn't work tonight, girls with cocks are very niche	[02:02]
BingoBoingo	eh	[02:03]
BingoBoingo	Having a cock still isn't as bad for a girl as being Obeast bagels7	[02:03]
bagels7	I'm not BBW yet and I broke up with my boyfriend that apparently had me in a fattening room	[02:06]
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bagels7	He slashed the tired of my bike and the cops put him in jail because [...] I hate alcoholism	[02:07]
BingoBoingo	bagels7: Maybe focus on staying human sized? As a t-girl that is the bulk of your value proposition, not being an obeast.	[02:07]
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BingoBoingo	Also, alcoholism is kool.	[02:07]
bagels7	Bingoboingo: I am 6 feet tall or 183 cm	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	So, tall and not being an obeast are your value propositions	[02:08]
bagels7	I can't help being heavy , also alcoholism is not kool when you get beat up and abused and constantly belittled	[02:08]
bagels7	Obviously Bingo	[02:09]
bagels7	I am considering some sort of liquid diet	[02:09]
bagels7	But I really really would like a peace of pie right now at 1 am	[02:09]
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trinque	bagels7 \| I can't help being heavy << are you trying to trigger BingoBoingo ?	[02:11]
*	trinque is hitting the gym 4 times a week; what's this "can't help it"	[02:11]
BingoBoingo	trinque: Yes, Imma being triggered.	[02:11]
BingoBoingo	bagels7: You know Brian in you skull only accepts two carbohydrates as fuel. Glucose and good old ETOH	[02:12]
bagels7	alcohol messes up my hormones and is probably what got me fat in the first place	[02:13]
BingoBoingo	Alcohol is what makes me so manly I beat the bouncers who wanted to kick me out of forlorn sports bar last Saturday. (I beat them by getting a block and a half lead)	[02:14]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.27340109 BTC on 'No' - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 31 March 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1214/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b4	[02:19]
*	BingoBoingo very impressed with Rubio staying Bitbet's favorite repubican candidia. He's got very pretty eyes for a spic.	[02:20]
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BingoBoingo	!up bagels7	[02:23]
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BingoBoingo	!up HeySteve	[04:26]
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HeySteve	hi BingoBoingo, what's new?	[04:27]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: I know its been a while since you've abandoned writing for the now collapsing CCN rag. Ever given a serious though to qntra writing?	[04:27]
BingoBoingo	You write with a solid voice.	[04:27]
HeySteve	I have indeed	[04:28]
BingoBoingo	I don't remember you writing for the other place since qntra was born, gotta have that blue balls	[04:28]
HeySteve	I started up my own site, coinlife.me	[04:28]
HeySteve	it's about Bitcoin but as non-technical as it gets	[04:29]
HeySteve	and yeah, I left CCN before the Garza scandal broke	[04:34]
BingoBoingo	Yeah, that was a solid move	[04:35]
BingoBoingo	You are the only motherfucker who made it out, and why? You saw the stupid and left.	[04:36]
BingoBoingo	I though am interested in your new bitcoin"lifestyle site	[04:37]
HeySteve	yeah I'm trying to get that profitable so I can expand	[04:39]
HeySteve	saw an article no one else is covering	[04:39]
HeySteve	an angle rather	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	It is a good thing to do. If you see interesting angles on news, feel free to collect some equity in qntra.	[04:41]
BingoBoingo	A lot of other people seriously undervalue the sort of history you have.	[04:42]
HeySteve	ok excellent, thanks for the offer and I'll certainly take you up on it if and when I find a good story	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	It is an offer of the sort open to a lot of people in varying degrees. To you it is especially open.	[04:44]
BingoBoingo	Stuff already news'd that you have a smart commentary on is an opening you have that not many others do.	[04:45]
HeySteve	well, my current "serious" project is trying to defeat property rental fraud using cryptocurrency	[04:48]
HeySteve	BitShares specifically, which I realise is an unpopular topic around here, but perhaps something interesting may come of that	[04:49]
punkman	what is property rental fraud?	[04:49]
HeySteve	when a landlord retains a tenant's rental deposit without justification. very common around the world and hard to challenge legally	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: Bitshares is more looked down on for its nature than its applications, not quite, but close to Ether uffing hate	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	The way though to actually beat rental fraud is allodial title and an army	[04:52]
HeySteve	yeah, in an ideal world I'd code up my own application but...	[04:52]
punkman	HeySteve: they usually have justification, don't they?	[04:53]
HeySteve	researching alloidal title, thanks	[04:54]
BingoBoingo	Well, allodial title also takes an army	[04:54]
HeySteve	punkman, it varies. often they overcharge for minor damages or make a point of being absent when the tenant is required to return the keys	[04:55]
HeySteve	had an article on it...	[04:55]
punkman	sure, they overcharge. how does bitshares help?	[04:55]
HeySteve	ah yes, this was a decent overview: http://www.caltenantlaw.com/secdep.htm	[04:56]
assbot	Getting Back Your Security Deposit ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwDQ2E )	[04:56]
HeySteve	right, well my idea is to escrow the rental deposit	[04:56]
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BingoBoingo	!up HeySteve	[04:57]
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punkman	UK gov does escrow for rental deposits these days	[04:58]
HeySteve	and the fiat-pegged assets with multisig which BTS allows "out the box" will help keep things simple for the public and myself alike	[04:59]
HeySteve	didn't know that, punkman, there's clearly a need for it in the developing world	[04:59]
punkman	HeySteve: well here it is if you are interested in prior art https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection/overview	[05:00]
assbot	Tenancy deposit protection - GOV.UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwDYiA )	[05:00]
HeySteve	this sort of fraud is rampant here in South Africa and from what I've heard from people, common in Israel too	[05:00]
HeySteve	thanks, that's good information. here it's also required that the deposit be kept in an interest bearing account, which adds another wrinklle	[05:01]
punkman	HeySteve: what are the incentives for the landlord though?	[05:01]
HeySteve	good question. for a dishonest landlord, there are only disincentives. for an honest one, I'm still considering... obvious option is to require a larger deposit	[05:02]
punkman	were I renting houses to orcs, I'd definitely not opt-in to any such scheme	[05:03]
HeySteve	if the scheme takes off, it's also a way for honest landlords to attract tenants by declaring their compliance to a standard	[05:03]
HeySteve	punkman, well damage or non-payment will definitely be punished	[05:04]
HeySteve	I'll require evidence from tenant and landlord at start and end of contract and arbitrate based on that	[05:04]
HeySteve	it's also possible to open the arbitration to a jury of sorts through hierarchial multisig	[05:05]
BingoBoingo	this sort of fraud is rampant here in South Africa and from what I've heard from people, common in Israel too << Oh you are in fluffypony land?	[05:06]
fluffypony	yup	[05:06]
fluffypony	there are like...THREE of us here!	[05:06]
fluffypony	ok Talisman is on -otc, not here, but same diff	[05:07]
BingoBoingo	fluffypony: My brother's latest dog, likely far fluffier than you or any extant equine	[05:07]
HeySteve	Talisman eh? haven't met him but berndj is another saffa	[05:07]
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fluffypony	oh yeah, olinguito	[05:15]
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HeySteve	right, he knows his stuff	[05:17]
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*	BingoBoingo still amazed that the fluffy gene when expressed is a defect in any breed of dog	[05:21]
HeySteve	fluffypony, how are things going your side, and with Monero?	[05:22]
fluffypony	HeySteve: all good	[05:24]
fluffypony	busy busy	[05:24]
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HeySteve	busy touring exotic destinations from what I saw in r/monero!	[05:31]
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BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/JC5MtVW.png	[05:40]
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HeySteve	heh true story. caps comment is a good eg. of poe's law	[05:42]
BingoBoingo	Better to be a shitlord than an Obeast	[05:44]
BingoBoingo	Palpable collarbones are what set us apart from lower animals	[05:44]
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punkman	matryoshka caption	[05:47]
BingoBoingo	So, who wants to play a game?	[05:50]
BingoBoingo	About 29 hours ago I offered a challenge people who wanted a chance to establish a history of work in La Serrenisima could tackle. Actual takes have been... disappoint.	[05:52]
BingoBoingo	shinohai: I went to sleep and woke up only to be on the precipice of sleep again. Are you actually considering this or do you want competition?	[05:54]
HeySteve	BingoBoingo, what sort of work are you talking about?	[05:54]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: In yesterday's logs. Factom or some shit. Filed for an IPO. Total scamception	[05:55]
BingoBoingo	I want a piece that says why with appropriate vitriol	[05:55]
punkman	BingoBoingo: why not write it then?	[05:55]
HeySteve	mmm sounds like a lot of research for me to take on right now	[05:56]
BingoBoingo	punkman: Because honestly. Actual people aren;t losing their shirts on this. Great chance though for marginally people to work towards becoming actual people by demonstrating a knowledge of how the scamception works.	[05:57]
HeySteve	I did question the folks opening up Starbucks about whether they'll accept the Fold app as in like 10 other countries	[05:57]
HeySteve	Starbucks SA^	[05:57]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: You could do this with more time flipping through sources than reading sources.	[05:57]
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HeySteve	well, it does sound like you have a better handle on it. I've never even looked at Factom	[06:00]
BingoBoingo	I am actually more than a tiny bit disappointed that I drop for the crowd a vagina that could queef qntra shares to the extent someone is willing to solidly pump it and... the interest is low	[06:00]
BingoBoingo	;;later tell cazalla ^ we gotta fix this	[06:00]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[06:00]
HeySteve	BingoBoingo, problem is I'm not comfortable calling something a scam until I'm 100% sure	[06:00]
BingoBoingo	HeySteve: I don't hava a handle on it. I'm not sure it is news at all. It is scam on many levels. My only reservation and the source of my disinterest is... I'm not sure actual people are affected	[06:01]
HeySteve	I've been looking at BTS for weeks and I've still not reached a final verdict	[06:01]
punkman	chukcha not writer, chukcha reader	[06:01]
BingoBoingo	punkman: at some point the greek in you will force you into poetry or sodomy	[06:02]
HeySteve	I did follow the chat a bit. something about early adopter / investor shares being converted to something else, now an IPO?	[06:03]
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BingoBoingo	So far October has been an frustratingly boring part of Bitcoin. I am worried though that Qntra is crossing into its second year and people don't want a giftwrapped chance to write a first story. Is qntra insufficiently established or does this seem too much of a trap. I the cost of fucking up in #b-a seeming too high? I am confused.	[06:05]
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BingoBoingo	HeySteve: Some of that. It goes deep like Micheal Bay filming Alice in WOnderland	[06:06]
punkman	risk of ruin from writing article seems nonexistant	[06:06]
BingoBoingo	punkman: There's actually lot of potential for ruin. What I want to know is how people can take that attitude towards risk and not find writng for qntra appealing	[06:07]
BingoBoingo	Writing for qntra is a solid way for people who think gud, but dun code gud to build #b-a cred	[06:10]
punkman	BingoBoingo: well as you said, not sure if it's news. especially considering there's a dozen or three Ether clones with same exact story	[06:11]
HeySteve	perhaps the problem is "say this is a scam" vs "investigate whether this is a scam"	[06:12]
BingoBoingo	punkman: The particular scamcoin failing is not quite news, but a mechanistic documentation of why this one is failing is news.	[06:12]
BingoBoingo	punkman: also weren't you going to write something on Greece being a failed state like Ferguson at some point? Or is Greece still catching up?	[06:13]
BingoBoingo	;;google site:qntra.net jizzmopers	[06:15]
gribble	No matches found.	[06:15]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo> ;;google site:qntra.net jizzmoppers	[06:15]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2014/10/gaw-miners-revealed-as-the-jizz-moppers-supreme/	[06:16]
assbot	GAW Miners Revealed As The Jizz Moppers Supreme \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjEwn )	[06:16]
punkman	BingoBoingo: I'm not terribly informed on the situation, but I think I'll do a followup soon	[06:17]
BingoBoingo	Qntra is exactly the way people who can't speak BTC++ can contribute to understanding the BTC ecosystem and, I would really appreciate more submissions on various fiat brokeness seen.	[06:18]
BingoBoingo	pete_duskenski has been great with this as has thestringpuller, this thing is here, for some definitions of queer it is that, and it isn't going away anytime soon	[06:19]
HeySteve	hmm this might be worth a look: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-15/nevada-shuts-down-fantasy-sports-sites-apply-gaming-license-or-face-decade-prison	[06:20]
assbot	Nevada Shuts Down Fantasy Sports Sites: Apply For A Gaming License Or Face A Decade In Prison \| Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjXY6 )	[06:20]
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BingoBoingo	I am abou to pass out and I have a 'different' perspective on that bezzel would like to see others.	[06:21]
HeySteve	my preferred fantasy sports site is of course http://www.fumbbl.com/	[06:21]
assbot	FUMBBL :: Online Blood Bowl League ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWk45K )	[06:21]
BingoBoingo	Not ButtFumbbl?	[06:21]
HeySteve	I don't really know the other meaning. people run a pretend league based on real teams and players?	[06:22]
BingoBoingo	Basically that	[06:22]
HeySteve	ok but how are outcomes decided?	[06:22]
BingoBoingo	Not real teams ever. Fake teams made of real player playing for real teams.	[06:23]
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BingoBoingo	Basically only US legal because the scamception involved lets league stakholders pass it off to congress as a "skill game" and not gambling even though it is scammy gambling	[06:24]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, problem is finding people who are passionate about bitcoin and lately for me, i couldn't think of anything more boring than bitcoin	[06:24]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: Well, our news child is now a toddler. Imma just trying to get the village involved in its raising	[06:25]
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HeySteve	Dear Steven, Thank you for your enquiry around the Fold app. We are not currently looking at virtual currency apps as we are focused on creating a local Starbucks app that will bring a richer online experience to our customers. Thank you for your interest. Regards, Diana	[06:36]
HeySteve	I'd rather have cheaper coffee than a richer online experience but that's just me	[06:37]
punkman	cazalla: why is it boring?	[06:44]
BingoBoingo	Mebbe because I am drunk and my mind is tearing	[06:45]
cazalla	punkman, been a daily thing for almost 3 years for me, just grown tired of it and the conversations about it past few months, i'm not saying "bitcoin is dead" just that i'm tired of talking/reading about it after this long, feel like going to do something else for 6-12 months and looking at it then after a break	[06:47]
punkman	conversations in reddit, #ba, both?	[06:53]
cazalla	here, not reddit, not an attack, just saying having read daily for what, a year now, gets a bit much, spring is in full swing and summer on the way, have a toddler to play with, need to find a full job again, something gotta give i guess, the whole bitcoin thing is something i just want to pack up in a box and look at again in a year	[06:55]
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davout	bonjour tout le monde	[06:56]
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kakobrekla	>at least we have bugs because it means that we're doing something, we're actually innovating whereas a lot of our competitors don't have bugs because they don't change	[07:09]
kakobrekla	bugs ftw	[07:09]
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punkman	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/H96566k.jpg	[07:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PwK2rF )	[07:11]
BingoBoingo	Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck, compile errors, FUCK!!! WHat was so wrong with even-s.	[07:12]
punkman	BingoBoingo: are you backporting?	[07:14]
BingoBoingo	punkman: I'm trying to bring low-s signing to 0.5.x and 0.7.x but the existing shit is in a worthless different fucking language.	[07:15]
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BingoBoingo	I've been drinking vodka and banging my head against this for about 8 hours nao off and on. I feel way too angry for a 116/67 blood pressure reading.	[07:17]
BingoBoingo	I think I might be broken on a fundamental level. Or maybe I'm drunk naked and cold and ought to close the windows...	[07:18]
danielpbarron	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300192 << https://archive.is/QB135#selection-1477.1-1477.56	[07:20]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 04:52:30; BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Can we at least come to a consensus that oral sex is not a deviant form of sodomy	[07:20]
assbot	Archived Blog 6 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mtqa3a )	[07:20]
BingoBoingo	danielpbarron: Swallowing cum though supports female fertility in a way that is tied to the specific man cumming	[07:21]
danielpbarron	>> Having Oral Sex - no (in marriage, see Song of Solomon) << the "no" is an answer to the question "is it a sin?"	[07:23]
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shinohai	Why would a god even care about my sex life?	[07:31]
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BingoBoingo	shinohai: Why does Lucifer run a bar in LA? Some things aren't for us mortals to sympathize with.	[07:32]
shinohai	Lucifer is tight though.	[07:33]
danielpbarron	shinohai, 1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body[a] and in your spirit, which are God's.	[07:35]
danielpbarron	and what is a "sex life" anyway?	[07:36]
danielpbarron	is it like a "black life" ?	[07:36]
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BingoBoingo	Nah, it is more like a "blue life" whatever the fuck that is, but apparently billboards are telling me nao that blue lives matter	[07:38]
shinohai	Ok, so if your body is a temple for worshiping god, then you want god to have a good time, ammi rite?	[07:38]
shinohai	I mean, he's up there where it's boring all the time. Maybe he doesn't know what great fun it is to snort heroin off a tranny's cock.	[07:39]
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davout	fluffypony: know anything about this? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1209440	[07:51]
assbot	Mea culpa (DBT, Wadii Rachid, Rayane) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtsBD2 )	[07:52]
cazalla	poor totalbiscuit, but still, amusing https://archive.is/kHZm7 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snlj3r	[08:00]
assbot	Twitter / Totalbiscuit: @Seanza get cancer and die ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwMj5Z )	[08:00]
assbot	TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwMj63 )	[08:00]
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shinohai	http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/41138/security/dronedefender-electromagnetic-gun.htm	[08:18]
assbot	DroneDefender, electromagnetic gun that shoot down dronesSecurity Affairs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mtu7F3 )	[08:18]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300167 << i'll tell you why anal. it builds character.	[08:57]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 03:28:54; danielpbarron: exactly. why anal?	[08:57]
mircea_popescu	the interesection between neurotic women and women that take it in the ass with some regularity is practically nil.	[08:58]
mircea_popescu	ask every annoying woman that you know whether she habitually engages in anal sex, be surprised at the universal absence of the behaviour.	[08:58]
mircea_popescu	"why anal ?" is in the same vein as "why go to school". because, obviously, "whoever likes me will like me for me as i am!!1"	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	except... you aren't.	[08:59]
kakobrekla	is it "i own your ass" or is it "i own you vagoo" ?	[09:00]
shinohai	"On the merits of Anal Intercourse." by mircea_popescu	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	lol. well it's both.	[09:00]
shinohai	I would gladly put that book on my mantelpiece if you were to pen it.	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300170 << neither of these is particularly true, ftr. on one hand, ass can dilate to about six inches diameter in mostly all humans ; whereas it's true that cunt can dilate to eight or above, this is besides the point, god help you if your cock is over two.	[09:01]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 03:29:25; BingoBoingo: Anal, because tighter, more stimulating	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	moreover, if tighter and/or more stimulating were the point, why not fuck the keyhole / the hot plate.	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	they're respectively even tighter and even more stimulating.	[09:01]
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mircea_popescu	but in more granular terms, anal is necessarily less stimulating than vaginal simply because the ass is a U whereas the vagina is a /. only one of these is designed to give the penis the sort of stimulation it expects, ie, crescendo. or in other words : no cervix in the colon, and no constrictive muscular reaction to protect an absent cervix in the colon muscles.	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	there you go shinohai.	[09:04]
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mircea_popescu	as to why not anal, firstly because you're probably too young and you'll move suddenly and jerkily like too young people do and hurt her ; and secondly because you live in the sticks and will give yourself an uti because you can't afford condoms ; and thirdly because you'e insane and who the fuck knows what nonsense you'll do with it (the us porn people are a fine example with their anal desinfectants and bleaching and	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	whatnot).	[09:07]
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shinohai	!s The Last Psychiatrist anal	[09:10]
assbot	0 results for 'The Last Psychiatrist anal' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=The+Last+Psychiatrist+anal	[09:10]
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-assbot-	Insufficient rights, mircea_popescu, !up yourself on PM first.	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	doh	[09:44]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell gabrielradio http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/	[09:45]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[09:46]
assbot	The "Christian Europe" and other aberrant notions on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHouaN )	[09:46]
Zuardi	hi, thanks, I am still catching up with all trilema posts and this channel's log :)	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	cheers.	[09:46]
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mircea_popescu	perhaps vaguely interesting to asciilifeform : in the comments of the original article (see http://trilema.com/2011/europa-crestina-si-alte-aberatii/#comment-71835 etc) a very familiar mechanism is at work : christian dude (who is otherwise a very clever, and well respected, commenter there), after exhausting the attempts to plead to authority ("oh you aren't qualified to discuss ; oh merkel is from a party called chri	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	stian something and german technology is best" etc, moves on to proposing that i am trying to diminish the importance of x. ie, he is proposing that i accept the form of his argument (xtianity matters) and debate the conclusions, in his terms.	[09:51]
assbot	Europa crestina si alte aberatii on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHp9Ju )	[09:51]
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mircea_popescu	obviously i refuse this approach, but note the method for chrissakes. 2011, in obscure language, on obscure topic nobody gives a shit about.	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	to me this strictly means that the methods "of government" are merely the methods of educated stupidity, there's nothing else there. whenever a stupid part of one's worldview tries to avail itself of the power justly earned by other parts to maintain itself, you got a government talking. and it talks the same way EVERY TIME.	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	whether it's 300 million strong or just in one retired engineer's head, the same damned vocabulary, style and grammar.	[09:52]
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fluffypony	davout: reading it now	[10:00]
deedbot-	[Trilema] The "Christian Europe" and other aberrant notions - http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/	[10:01]
davout	doesn't appear to me it's anyone but his loss	[10:02]
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davout	*anyone's	[10:02]
fluffypony	yeah	[10:02]
fluffypony	well lots of people told him at the beginning that those guys were dodgy	[10:03]
davout	public mea culpa is pretty respectable though if you ask me	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300194 << is it fun ?	[10:10]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 04:58:27; bagels7: I make whore dollars with my whore mouth	[10:10]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300253 << very easy to challenge. "you want these keys back ? pay up."	[10:19]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 07:50:28; HeySteve: when a landlord retains a tenant's rental deposit without justification. very common around the world and hard to challenge legally	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	and if he doesn't, well, twice the deposit worth of damage + whatever it costs him to break in should be just about fair.	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300260 << so you don't return, leave them notice of breach.	[10:20]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 07:55:20; HeySteve: punkman, it varies. often they overcharge for minor damages or make a point of being absent when the tenant is required to return the keys	[10:20]
mircea_popescu	seriously, you're going to invent a blockchain way to make losers not be beaten up by their betters ? because why.	[10:20]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300272 << how many landlords did you talk to ?	[10:21]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 08:01:03; HeySteve: this sort of fraud is rampant here in South Africa and from what I've heard from people, common in Israel too	[10:21]
mircea_popescu	this "o noes we are opressed" talk is the stock in trade of the worthless class. for good reason.	[10:21]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300279 << so a) you'll spend your life driving between bickering nuts. this is a worse deal than what psychs get, at least there you gotta drive to his office. ; b) the blockchain and everything else is entirely superfluous here. your entire idea is "hey, make me the mp of renting in south africa". maybe they will or maybe they won't but you really don't need the funny ha	[10:23]
mircea_popescu	t. hire some dudes with guns offer the old style protection if you got what it takes. and if you do not, i'll just talk to the actual dudes in question and you'll eat your own ass so fast you'll be on youtube.	[10:23]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 08:05:02; HeySteve: I'll require evidence from tenant and landlord at start and end of contract and arbitrate based on that	[10:23]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300277 << not unlike the idea that if liberland takes off, it'll attract good people by declaring their allegiance to a country.	[10:24]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 08:03:55; HeySteve: if the scheme takes off, it's also a way for honest landlords to attract tenants by declaring their compliance to a standard	[10:24]
mircea_popescu	guess what - that's not how it works.	[10:24]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300292 << chow chow gottra be fluyffy neh ?	[10:25]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 08:21:48; *: BingoBoingo still amazed that the fluffy gene when expressed is a defect in any breed of dog	[10:25]
mircea_popescu	but otherwise yes, fluffy is actually a deffect. just like blue eyes.	[10:25]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300331 << this shit's so lulzy...	[10:30]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 09:11:50; punkman: BingoBoingo: well as you said, not sure if it's news. especially considering there's a dozen or three Ether clones with same exact story	[10:30]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo methinks yo uchase way too hard.	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300354 << the problem is more in the lines of "finding excited people that aren't idiots".	[10:32]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 09:24:38; cazalla: BingoBoingo, problem is finding people who are passionate about bitcoin and lately for me, i couldn't think of anything more boring than bitcoin	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	the idiot crowd is generally excited enough.	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300364 << so have fun what, not like it's going anywhere.	[10:33]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 09:55:50; cazalla: here, not reddit, not an attack, just saying having read daily for what, a year now, gets a bit much, spring is in full swing and summer on the way, have a toddler to play with, need to find a full job again, something gotta give i guess, the whole bitcoin thing is something i just want to pack up in a box and look at again in a year	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300368 << "yes my kitchen's infested but at least im cooking!"	[10:34]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 10:09:34; kakobrekla: >at least we have bugs because it means that we're doing something, we're actually innovating whereas a lot of our competitors don't have bugs because they don't change	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	seems legit.	[10:34]
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mircea_popescu	!up Jautenim	[10:34]
-assbot-	You voiced Jautenim for 30 minutes.	[10:34]
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Jautenim	wrt http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2015#1295983	[10:35]
assbot	Logged on 10-10-2015 12:08:05; mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gnupg-1.4.10.tar.gz.asc	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300377 << lol this guy. first he wants to box a steel crossbeam. then he wants to fuck with codemess off the cuff while haranguing people about their writing habits. you ever heard of PACE bingo ? hm ?	[10:35]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 10:17:42; BingoBoingo: I've been drinking vodka and banging my head against this for about 8 hours nao off and on. I feel way too angry for a 116/67 blood pressure reading.	[10:35]
Jautenim	was that noticed/discussed > http://dpaste.com/3RWJER1	[10:35]
assbot	dpaste: 3RWJER1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LS1vF4 )	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	Jautenim what about it ?	[10:35]
Jautenim	apparently same contents, different packaging	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	it was not.	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	is it exactly the same content ?	[10:36]
Jautenim	according to diff, yes	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	(this isn't a current file, it is a historical version)	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	so they at some point changed packaging to make it 10x bigger ?!	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	no wait, it's really 1.5mb lighter that makes sense. ok.	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	!rated Jautenim	[10:38]
assbot	You rated user Jautenim on 18-May-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..	[10:38]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[10:39]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300389 << soon to come to a DMV near you!	[10:41]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 10:35:22; danielpbarron: shinohai, 1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body[a] and in your spirit, which are God's.	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	The DroneDefender can help protect us from those who may wish to do us harm,” said Dan Stamm, who led the research project. “It can help us in numerous settings, from the White House lawn to bases and embassies overseas; from prisons and schools to historic sites. It easily and reliably neutralizes the threat.”	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	herp.	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	"Faisant fi des conseils avisés de nombre d'entre vous, j'ai persévéré avec cette personne, me disant que je dois arrêter d'abandonner juste avant la ligne d'arrivée, ne pas m'arrêter à la première hésitation, penser par moi-même et non par les autres, etc.	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	J'ai eu tord."	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	oookay.	[10:45]
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davout	lit. "I had bent" instead of "I was wrong" :D	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	aha	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	the name is very vaguely familiar, latapie, but i can't place it.	[10:50]
davout	he showed up a coupla times here	[10:50]
deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00026077 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b28	[10:50]
davout	he's also with fluffypony in monero	[10:50]
fluffypony	he's a good guy	[10:51]
davout	also if you're curious what a really thick accent from toulouse sounds like, listen to him	[10:51]
fluffypony	but he is overly trusting	[10:51]
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mircea_popescu	a right.	[10:52]
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mircea_popescu	aaand in other news, http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-federal-government-now-holds-nearly-50-of-all-residential-mortgages-2015-10-16	[10:59]
assbot	Why the federal government now holds nearly 50% of all residential mortgages - MarketWatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhIek6 )	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	pretty good huh.	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	unrelatedly, perhaps, http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/10/the_media_is_the_message.html	[11:02]
assbot	The Last Psychiatrist: The Media Is The Message, And The Message Is You're An Idiot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhIsrv )	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	It is the same guys, over and over again, each in their own space, and by default we assume they are the most knowledgeable, or the most rigorous; have the most information or are best able to remain objective. Or maybe we simply hope they'll be good enough.	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	But having the same guys means that we'll be getting the same philosophies, the same filters, the same phrases. We are guaranteeing not just groupthink, but we're allowing others to decide what we're going to talk about, how we'll talk about it. That's why "gay marriage" will disappear not when gays can marry but when a new set of media people get jobs and "gay marriage" isn't as interesting to them. The actual im	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	portance of "gay marriage" in the world is not at all the important question-- it may be extremely relevant, or not at all, but that's irrelevant. Why we're stuck with "bipolar disorder" until, I don't know, the neo-analysts return with their talk of "repressed thyroid energy" or something, but emphatically not because we discover anything qualitatively new about bipolar.	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	And so it goes. If you wonder why you seem ADHD or anxious, it may be that you are being told certain things are horribly important, yet you can't seem to feel it; meanwhile you are also being told the things you thought were important are trivial.	[11:02]
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mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648431538896551936/jNtsqWIu.png << ahahahahaha!	[11:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GhK7Nw )	[11:17]
thestringpuller	The result of quantitive easing.	[11:17]
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davout	mircea_popescu: lol fuck you	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	no, no... lol	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	i just had no idea such a respectable, fetching jeune leader was under all that muck and grime and long curly hair is all +{:D	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	where's the sweater ?	[11:20]
davout	heh, that's what happens when bored at a wedding, waiting for the booze to be served	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	you didn't get sheared for naught, i should hope ? :D	[11:20]
davout	"let's go make some linkedin pix"	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	lol	[11:20]
davout	i tried to get fanny to make something out of it	[11:20]
davout	too technical apparently	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	it's a great pic, srsly.	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	very funny to me/us, sure, but that's besides the point.	[11:21]
davout	has me on it; better be a fucking great pic :D	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	lol	[11:21]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300495 << we had this here before. gnu tar versions.	[11:36]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 13:36:06; Jautenim: apparently same contents, different packaging	[11:36]
shinohai	'One writer of the period noted that he could never feel comfortable tipping a white person, since the practice should be reserved for “Negroes.” ' http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/why-tipping-is-wrong.html?	[11:38]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1RMshDS )	[11:38]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300456 << where i live, 'return keys' is a ceremonial thing, landlord traditionally changes lock each time	[11:38]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 13:19:35; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300253 << very easy to challenge. "you want these keys back ? pay up."	[11:38]
mircea_popescu	no, you do.	[11:39]
asciilifeform	wai wat	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	...	[11:39]
asciilifeform	ah	[11:40]
asciilifeform	also lulzily, where i live, not only tenants 'feel oppressed' by landlord, but (small-time) landlords also 'oh noez we are oppressed' by tenants!	[11:41]
mircea_popescu	so yes, it;'s a contract like any other, it ends upon specific performance.	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	if breached, the breaching party carries the cost of the whole story.	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	well sure.	[11:42]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the rub is that enforcement of the contract typically requires money. or, at the very least, time.	[11:42]
asciilifeform	(to show up in court, press the issue, etc)	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	if you don't have money your opinion about what you did is wrong.	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	this is what "not having money" means.	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	just like, if your mark is bad, your opinion of what you know is wrong.	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	just like, if flies won't fuck you, your opinion of what's attractive is wrong. and so on.	[11:43]
asciilifeform	where i live, it more typically means that you are 'more distant from the pipeline'	[11:43]
asciilifeform	on account of not having chosen your parents carefully.	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	mno.	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	this is what the poor pretend it means. it never ever does.	[11:44]
mircea_popescu	(and amusingly, the poor pretend this is an exceptional time-and-place thing but pretend so ubiquitously and at all times.)	[11:44]
mircea_popescu	kinda lulzily parallels the entire "i'm special in my you're special t shirt"	[11:44]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: if your mark is bad << what a british way to say "grade"	[11:45]
mircea_popescu	haha i guess huh	[11:45]
asciilifeform	yeah yeah if you aren't on a nietzschean atomic dirigible you're nothing, i get it	[11:46]
mircea_popescu	not the point!	[11:46]
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deedbot-	[fr.anco.is] X.EUR October 16th statement - http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-october-16th-statement/	[12:02]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform to get to the bottom of this matter, let's approach it from a more convenient angle.	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	so, in some places/cultures, it is the habit that young men committing marriage PAY to the parents of the young bride a sum of money.	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	in some other places/cultures, the habit is the reverse : the parents pay the young man to take her.	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	in which of these two would you say the poor are being gypped ?	[12:04]
davout	do tell!	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	well obviously it's a trick question. in pastoral communities/other situations where the land is well under carrying capacity, the young man pays, because the old folk could have just drunk and made merry, but instead they put the effort into raising the filly / rose garden / whatever the dude's gonna enjoy. so they should get something for their trouble.	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	conversely, in lands at carrying capacity, the old dudes gotta pay the young dude for their unwarranted priviledge of having occupied a plot of land, which he can not do.	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	this, so as to prevent the young people from just burning the whole thing.	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	and when inheritance changes from male only to both children, as it did in post fedual sicily, the obligation moves from her parents (as he will inherit HIS parents but not hers) to "both parents" which quickly devolves into a sort of "what rich man in the comunity wishes to sponsor this festival"	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	aka, pay for all our sins, as we can't afford to do it. and so you get godfathers, and get to enjoy the movie. that's his role in the community : that he pays your blodgelt for you.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	these are tacit arrangements, you will notice : nobody bothered to type out nicely the rousseau contract of it all, nor bothered to ask the poor to sign, or even explain it to them. because fuck them they're not worth it.	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	but it is NEVER the case that the poor are being gypped by this. whatever the law of the land is, they're getting it back in some other form.	[12:13]
davout	first part sorta reducing to "we'll give you money with the girl to make make rape and pillage less profitable than civilized marriage" ?	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	so, if here the landlords rent out for 10 a month but you gotta pay 10 in advance "as guarantee" and there they rent out for 11 a month but you don't,	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	it's the same story.	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	davout exactly and strictly, yes.	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	and this obviously only affects the poor to any degree - if antinous had or hadn't a trousseau or if he had to pay some homonymous coins, hadrianus couldn't have cared less.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile - there are not enough rich people around to have the same sort of "what's done" thing going. and so they must have contracts.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	but to say you can't afford contracts AND YET you think you were gypped is basically juust to swear and attest you're poor. of course you'd think that, that's why you're poor : cause you're stupid.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	too stupid to understand how things work and why, dumb enough to focus on one metric and forget about the others ("hey, engagement is hard to measure!") etc.	[12:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28284 @ 0.00047835 = 13.5297 BTC [-] {3}	[12:19]
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mircea_popescu	"psychothis is underdiagnosed" is exactly like the court's idea that the population is juridically underserved. not so - you can't have things that are definitionally for the few (because the few don't benefit from the banal commonality of the many, soi they need something else to allow society to function).	[12:23]
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mircea_popescu	in a world where evereyone's deemed a gentleman, you will need ~five times the population in lawyers. and it's all a colossal waste of time anwyay, only about 1% or so of the population actually gets in relationships complex enough to merit memorialization	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	which is what drives the de-professionalization of lawyers and so on and so forth.	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	out of line equalitarianism is at the root of ALL social ills in the western world today, not just one or another.	[12:24]
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gabrielradio	ladies and gentlemen, step right up	[13:16]
gabrielradio	we have here none other than the 2nd most read article of Trilema, now available for your literary delight in good old english	[13:16]
gabrielradio	without further ado - http://pastebin.com/qGE3C9R0	[13:16]
assbot	How to suck the cock – guide for half a blowjob - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMr7d5 )	[13:17]
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punkman	"At the click of a button he sends it to a thousand matches. After half an hour no-one has responded. Worse, there’s a bounce message from some stuck-up arsehole saying he’s been blocked. He tries to argue with the bounce message, threatening to report it to the Internet Police for curtailing his Freedom of Expression. “We int doing nuffink wrong” Shithead mutters."	[13:57]
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punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRcY1VzUwAANCSA.jpg:large	[14:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OJ6FYW )	[14:59]
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ben_vulpes	http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/blog/health-care-inc/2015/10/oregon-health-insurer-to-shutter-advises-15-000.html?ana=e_ptl_bn_breakingnews&u=RnoMHlJFWJ1SB8jxKS3pGQ00e35605&t=1445016484	[15:12]
assbot	Oregon health insurer to shutter, advises 15,000 customers to find other plans - Portland Business Journal ... ( http://bit.ly/1X9z4ug )	[15:12]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:13]
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ascii_field	ben_vulpes: yours ?	[15:13]
ben_vulpes	"the federal government announced if would pay only 12.6 percent of what is owed to insurers under the “risk corridor” program" << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-10-2015#1299461	[15:13]
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assbot	Logged on 15-10-2015 15:47:33; mircea_popescu: if government does it, it's governance.	[15:13]
ben_vulpes	ascii_field: odds are that mine is on the chopping block.	[15:13]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: the whole shebang is on the chopping block. only question is re: the order and timing.	[15:13]
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gabrielradio	gares__ Garmin gernika GNULinuxGuy GoMaD gribble Guest11357 Guest67521 Guest84681______ Guest89066 guruvan	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	gabrielradio it's "guide for half the oral sex". see, because two sexes ?	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	not half a blowjob.	[15:23]
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mircea_popescu	!t m s.qntr	[15:25]
assbot	[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00015 / 0.00016455 / 0.000178 (1283 shares, 0.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00015 / 0.0002234 / 0.00023879 (6190 shares, 1.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00015 / 0.00023944 / 0.00034239 (42650 shares, 10.21 BTC)	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 314238.2 0.00016455	[15:25]
gribble	10.34157258	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	so BingoBoingo, since cazalla's getting out, i figure 10 btc for his chunk should be good enough ? (what you think cazalla ?). you wanna go halves with me in it ?	[15:26]
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mircea_popescu	ahaha well the federal government could of course pay them in ious.	[15:46]
ben_vulpes	what's going to happen is that the federal government will continue to subsidize through irs	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	yes, it's generally how "failed states" go : the last resort subsidy is through poor tax collection.	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	ehuehueahueha	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	welcome to mexico.	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	/intentional/ poor tax collection?	[15:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00047704 = 10.2087 BTC [+] {4}	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	it just looks like welfare by another name.	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	define "intentional"	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck do you think happens unintentionally ?	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	"i'm not fat because i want to, it's just my genes"	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	"we don't poorly collect because intentionally, it's just hard to do!!1"	[15:49]
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ben_vulpes	"we're not collecting poorly, we're denoting this group for large refunds at the end of the year"	[15:50]
ben_vulpes	marking, rather	[15:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.39028209 BTC to 10`000`000 shares, 13 satoshi per share	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	aha	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	"we're still in control over here"	[15:51]
ben_vulpes	and those refund checks are turkey-buyin-dollars	[15:51]
ben_vulpes	well no, nobody's arguing that they're in control.	[15:51]
ben_vulpes	they've made promises that are going to bankrupt them.	[15:51]
ben_vulpes	"affordable health insurance!"	[15:52]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:52]
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ascii_field	ben_vulpes: wai wut, as if they were not bankrupt already long ago ?	[15:52]
ben_vulpes	the right thereto...	[15:52]
ben_vulpes	ascii_field: when did the weimar republic go bankrupt?	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	NEVER!1!1	[15:53]
ascii_field	^	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	nobel prize economist said you can never go bankrupt borrowing in your own currency and so it's true	[15:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6688 @ 0.00047935 = 3.2059 BTC [+]	[15:56]
ben_vulpes	yeah what the hell does it mean to be bankrupt when you can print the notes in which your loans are denominated?	[16:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24494 @ 0.00048638 = 11.9134 BTC [+] {4}	[16:02]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: it means - if it means anything - that the music stops.	[16:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6112 @ 0.00048622 = 2.9718 BTC [-]	[16:03]
ben_vulpes	sure, but that it will stop, or that it has stopped?	[16:03]
ascii_field	that it has.	[16:03]
ben_vulpes	eh so the place has a decade left before 'bankrupt' if such has meaning outside of bitcoin	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	the place has as long as the chinese please.	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	a week or a century, ask mr xi.	[16:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 137.10466440 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 27 satoshi per share	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0681V2X.txt	[16:08]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3HJF )	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/06WQVW9.txt	[16:08]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[16:08]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3GoV )	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/06WQVW9.txt	[16:09]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3GoV )	[16:09]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[16:09]
trinque	weird.	[16:09]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300596 << for my education: what would it look like, in mircea_popescu's picture, for the poor to be properly gypped ?	[16:09]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 15:13:52; mircea_popescu: but it is NEVER the case that the poor are being gypped by this. whatever the law of the land is, they're getting it back in some other form.	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field what would PROPERLY written perl look like ?	[16:10]
ascii_field	does one divide by zero just by asking this ?	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[16:10]
ascii_field	does mircea_popescu recall his own article re: how the caveat re: treating people as cows, is that one must first make sure the entire lot actually ~is~ bovine ?	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	trinque they just overlapped, seems fine.	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field yes.	[16:11]
trinque	yeh, looked like it went in	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	this is the process whereby it's made sure. as the guy describes. "deposit fraud". hey check it out, some dcs charge a set-up fee. "dc fraud". herp.	[16:12]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: iirc thread was about fraud proper, where contract promises 'you get this back' but the response is 'haha, whatchagonnadoaboutit'	[16:13]
ascii_field	nobody promises to give dc setup fee back.	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	not my reading.	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	we don't have the contract before our eyes, but im willing to bet it reads "and renter to return place IN THE SAME CONDITION" which by tradition is interpreted in that locale that you pay for the fumigation after you're done in the shape of an upfront thing.	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	words mean nothing in and of themselves, and the pretense to the contrary is always self-serving bullshit when deployed in such contexts, "oh, i can't afford to litigate"	[16:14]
ascii_field	can't speak for other side of the atlantic, but over here 'security deposit' is to be returned to the tenant when he leaves, minus repair costs, the latter to be presented in writing and with receipts from repairmen	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	the REASON you can't afford to litigate is THAT you are making bullshit up.	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	and did you not get your deposit back ?	[16:15]
ascii_field	well, interestingly, i personally did. the last time i checked out of a flat. but knew others, who rented in same building, who did not, and without any particularly good reason other than 'landlord knew they hadn't what to sue with'	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, all of this is nonsense. if IN GENERAL landlords keep the deposit, then IT IS JUST A COST. like part of the cost of renting. and if you somehow magically push this valve shut,	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	guess the fuck what ? rents are going to go up!	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	herpitty-derp.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	that's the point. that nominalism never fixed anything.	[16:17]
thestringpuller	renting vs buying: a choice between two bowls of shit in the US	[16:17]
ascii_field	this - yes	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	well that's all it is.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	"the poor never get gypped". this.	[16:17]
thestringpuller	either pay the government scandalous property taxes, or get butt fucked by a landlord	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	and "knew others" is also bullshit. you knew others in the sense of what they chose to present	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	were they your slaves ? did you know them in the penis-in-colon sense ?	[16:18]
ascii_field	nope.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	so then for all you know they smoked in a non-smoking place.	[16:18]
ascii_field	i didn't hang'em up upside-down and connect to the mains to get the truth, no.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	so i'll just discount it.	[16:18]
deedbot-	[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The problem. It’s not “in the industry.” It’s inside of you. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/16/the-problem-its-not-in-the-industry-its-inside-of-you/	[16:21]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[16:24]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[16:24]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: back to the 'poor' thread, i can't comment re: your planet, but on mine we have no shortage of imbeciles with fat wallets and penniless erdöses	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	is it ?	[16:26]
ascii_field	precisely why should the latter consider the former 'their betters' ?	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	because from what i hear on your planet the life expectancy of lottery winner is 3 years.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	seems to be working fine.	[16:26]
ascii_field	smart folks don't play	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	not germane, is it ?	[16:27]
ascii_field	sure is. lottery players are drawn from the stinking-poor. while i'm describing the cultured-poor.	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	your desire to enact this difference is noted.	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	but from what i hear the "cultured poor" a la ers fare not much better.	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	maybe the 3 is a 7.	[16:30]
ascii_field	where do i go to see this ?	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	to the logs! remember, we were mocking him last week ?	[16:30]
ascii_field	who ?	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	erric raymond	[16:31]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you reminded me of story of girl who sold a company in college for a couple million and then ended up overdosing the next day	[16:32]
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ascii_field	1) he wasn't paid in genuine money 2) i'm not convinced that he's a cultured man	[16:32]
ascii_field	*wasn't rich in	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	lol.k.	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller die young leave a corpse with nice tits, eh ?	[16:34]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: overdosed on what? caviar ?	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	buttsex	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	ftr - you CAN get sick from too much caviar. and it's not fucking pretty.	[16:36]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2015#1041206 << see also	[16:36]
assbot	Logged on 04-03-2015 06:52:52; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: does engl. have a catch-term for 'fatal buggery' ?	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	kik	[16:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00047671 = 15.9221 BTC [-]	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	and in the truly scary range, http://33.media.tumblr.com/26d8988a0402af90925cb5cf83c68db8/tumblr_nujj9vaoUA1u5ddqjo1_400.gif	[16:50]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MukVQZ )	[16:50]
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ben_vulpes	looks like 'dexter'	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	whassat ? not the cartoon ?	[16:58]
ben_vulpes	neat hbo show about a serial killer	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	a	[16:59]
ben_vulpes	works as a homicide lab tech	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/fb02d6cdd0d2794db550661625d5468f/tumblr_nvv5k9KdED1usuisio1_1280.gif	[17:00]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1PxnFCq )	[17:00]
ben_vulpes	flesh	[17:01]
ben_vulpes	surprisingly resilient	[17:02]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:02]
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ascii_field	good ol'strappado	[17:02]
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BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo methinks yo uchase way too hard. << Ah	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	o, also http://38.media.tumblr.com/aafd26d24253d47e8d506b54187ede26/tumblr_nn7r8dCZb81uswp8qo1_500.gif	[17:06]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Mumnmm )	[17:06]
VariaVarietatis	mircea_popescu: Someone made a documentary about that site(looks like Brent Scott) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_Sexual_Horror tits girl	[17:07]
assbot	Graphic Sexual Horror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1MumpL4 )	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[17:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16025 @ 0.00047671 = 7.6393 BTC [-]	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/S%26P500_(1950-12).jpg <<< bwaghahaha	[17:15]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Pxopav )	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	no inflation!	[17:15]
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ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: can't you see where they take the extra money out?!	[17:43]
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cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300479 <<< this is actually what i mean, i guess i should flesh out my thoughts a bit more before mashing enter	[18:12]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 13:32:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300354 << the problem is more in the lines of "finding excited people that aren't idiots".	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes extra money ? lol.	[18:15]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300641 <<< sounds reasonable provided bb gives his OK	[18:15]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 18:26:37; mircea_popescu: so BingoBoingo, since cazalla's getting out, i figure 10 btc for his chunk should be good enough ? (what you think cazalla ?). you wanna go halves with me in it ?	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	alrighty i think we got an agreement there. post an addy an' we'll have a memorandum on deedbot laters.	[18:15]
cazalla	19EQBR8c4yGu1g9KinfcWFydHo1M2hsJMj	[18:17]
cazalla	will also need to push domain to either yours or bb's namecheap, or it can remain in mine but either way	[18:18]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:18]
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ascii_field	cazalla is going moiety ?	[18:19]
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cazalla	ascii_field, not exactly (but i do need to find a job), just want a break from everything bitcoin so i can go find something else	[18:19]
shinohai	http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/Wilder-Accident-Jack-333185411.html <<< Least he died jackin' off	[18:20]
assbot	Wilder man, 36, working on vehicle dies after it slips off jack \| Local & Regional \| Boise, Meridian, Nampa, Caldwell, Idaho News, Weather, Sports and Breaking News - KBOI 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKNA26 )	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	yeah good idea.	[18:24]
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shinohai	Some enterprising individuals in this area will often lift cars using cinder blocks, as if $19.99 is too much to rent a pair of jackstands and do it right.	[18:33]
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ascii_field	* Written by Ulrich Drepper , 1995. * * Heavily modified for GnuPG by * << l0l	[18:47]
ascii_field	and moar,	[18:48]
ascii_field	http://dpaste.com/10CCTW0.txt	[18:48]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1NNgRBk )	[18:48]
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ascii_field	http://blog.geeky-boy.com/2015/10/windows-corrupting-udp-datagrams.html << Run Moar Winblowz!!	[19:11]
assbot	The Meditative Coder: Windows corrupting UDP datagrams ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKR0Sr )	[19:11]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300090 << like sending your enemy rifle parts that can only be assembled to shoot backwards, into gunner.	[20:34]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 00:57:32; mircea_popescu: "you design and build the battleships and whatever else you feel like doing anyway you want to - we'll beat you to shit with them."	[20:34]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300100 << this'd be interesting to verify personally, however anecdotally, except that i'm missing one key condition ...	[20:38]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 01:01:56; mircea_popescu: "The women with depressed, unhelpful husbands did not report lower levels of marital satisfaction; rather they were maintained at high levels. One interpretation of our data was that the women's more negative memories of their fathers served the function of minimizing (or denying) their husbands' failure to be as helpful as needed. If this is all that can be expected of men, then I c	[20:38]
pete_dushenski	"The husbands were observed by their wives to be less sensitive to the kids than other fathers and helped less with parenting." << seems to be a crucial one.	[20:39]
pete_dushenski	whereas an fathering hero is me !	[20:39]
pete_dushenski	thanks in no small part to my self-promotional marketing campaign, naturally	[20:40]
pete_dushenski	interesting article though. will definitely pass it along to the other girls. y'know, for science.	[20:41]
asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu for whom does gnu-mpi have the jacobi, legendre, kronecker, lucas knobs?! i have failed to turn up any instance of anyone ever having used them. or even tested.	[20:43]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300111 << and all that hockey hullabaloo !	[20:43]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 01:11:20; mircea_popescu: blame canada.	[20:43]
pete_dushenski	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA	[20:44]
assbot	Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VXCS4E )	[20:44]
*	asciilifeform can't actually think of kronecker without also thinking of cantor frothing in lunatic asylum	[20:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5846 @ 0.0004827 = 2.8219 BTC [-]	[20:47]
asciilifeform	https://www.ucalgary.ca/rzach/blog/2009/09/logic-and-madness.html << lulzy, related.	[20:47]
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pete_dushenski	o hey i was just in calgary on wednesday	[20:53]
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pete_dushenski	not that richard zach and i crossed paths...	[20:53]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300128 << 'there is nothing either good nor bad but thinking makes it so'	[20:55]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 01:24:54; mircea_popescu: there is in point of fact nothing objectively wrong with honor killings, all sorts of pretense to the contrary notwithstanding. if you can get your hands around her neck you can strangle her. or not. your option. reality has both functions loaded and ready to go and return;	[20:55]
*	asciilifeform observes that it is bidirectionally correlated with goatfucking, 1.0.	[20:56]
pete_dushenski	it's certainly for the type of non-intellectual who can neither reason with girl nor find alternative avenue of action through which to persuade her	[20:57]
pete_dushenski	it's nonverbal, maybe that's what goatfucking means ?	[20:57]
asciilifeform	literal fucking of goats.	[20:58]
pete_dushenski	well yes.	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13549 @ 0.0004827 = 6.5401 BTC [-]	[21:00]
pete_dushenski	this being the dominion of people for whom grunts and shouts pass for 'communication'	[21:00]
pete_dushenski	not polyglots who read chaucer in bed	[21:00]
asciilifeform	nothing to do with it:	[21:00]
asciilifeform	where the gurlz are sufficiently corralled, goats end up the default fuck.	[21:00]
pete_dushenski	lol i guess that's another angle eh	[21:01]
pete_dushenski	man will fuck what man can fuck	[21:02]
pete_dushenski	which i guess is just 'if you can, you must' re-stated	[21:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60150 @ 0.00048107 = 28.9364 BTC [-] {8}	[21:03]
pete_dushenski	;;ticker	[21:03]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 263.23, Best ask: 263.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 263.48, 24 hour volume: 21906.13567276, 24 hour low: 254.91, 24 hour high: 267.83, 24 hour vwap: None	[21:03]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300326 << cost is high, yes. plus, giftwrapping makes people suspicious, like 'is this too good to be true?'	[21:07]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 09:05:26; BingoBoingo: So far October has been an frustratingly boring part of Bitcoin. I am worried though that Qntra is crossing into its second year and people don't want a giftwrapped chance to write a first story. Is qntra insufficiently established or does this seem too much of a trap. I the cost of fucking up in #b-a seeming too high? I am confused.	[21:07]
pete_dushenski	same problem as bitcoin evangelising	[21:07]
pete_dushenski	the problem the preacher has is that he never knows who he's going to convery	[21:08]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300362 << taking a break clears the mind. not totally surprising that cazalla feels this way given the hints he's been broadcasting re: moar disintrest in qntra. understandable and looking forward to seeing him back again when he's ready :)	[21:11]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 09:48:04; cazalla: punkman, been a daily thing for almost 3 years for me, just grown tired of it and the conversations about it past few months, i'm not saying "bitcoin is dead" just that i'm tired of talking/reading about it after this long, feel like going to do something else for 6-12 months and looking at it then after a break	[21:11]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "foss" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	red hat ?	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	whereas an fathering hero is me ! << this too shall pass.	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform : historical version is historical version, whadda ya want from me.	[21:16]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu so will all my days, doesn't mean i'm not going to milk each and every one of them	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[21:18]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell heysteve re: real estate, you ever read http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/13/tips-and-tricks-for-being-a-successful-small-time-landlord/ ?	[21:19]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:19]
assbot	Tips and tricks for being a successful (small time) landlord. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GarvQ1 )	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski you rend out iirc ?	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	ah yea, managed some small office building thing, i recall.	[21:19]
pete_dushenski	indeed.	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` iirc is a full fledged rentier, lives off of it	[21:19]
pete_dushenski	maybe it's a canadian thing ?	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	i on the other hand have held under lease tens of millions worth (dubviously, which is why i lease in the first place) of real estate the world over during the past decade or so...	[21:20]
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pete_dushenski	my residential property brings in ~$6-7k/yr	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	i guess b-a is a very good venue to discuss the matter.	[21:20]
pete_dushenski	ie. not enough to live off	[21:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00047588 = 21.7001 BTC [-] {2}	[21:22]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu fwiw you're new keyboard seems markedly worse than you old one in terms of accuracy, at least on irc if not trilema. many a spurious \ etc	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	the problem is that im using three now	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	and they're not exactly the same one	[21:24]
pete_dushenski	why three ?	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	well one's here, the one's playing eulora	[21:25]
pete_dushenski	i'm only counting two there	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	close enough.	[21:29]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-10-2015#1298016 << update: adam_obrien and i played golf this afternoon and chatted about pgp key-signing. in his excitement at discovering the command line tools, he tried out everything he could find (he's an enthusiastic kid!) and yes, signed my key. he was quite surprised to learn that this changed the key block on the sks etc servers.. fwiw	[21:31]
assbot	Logged on 13-10-2015 18:24:46; mircea_popescu: anyway, pete_dushenski : someone (o'brien) signed your key and uploaded it to one of the servers. the result is a different pubkey there.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	it's no big deal really.	[21:32]
pete_dushenski	more curiousity, yes	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	o wait, 260ish now ? tsk tsk.	[21:34]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell hdbuck i think you 'withdraw your objection', rather than 'rest your case'. http://qntra.net/2015/10/uber-provides-alibi-for-armed-robbery/#comment-67516	[21:34]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:34]
assbot	Uber Provides Alibi for Armed Robbery \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GasnEj )	[21:34]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu tsk tsk ?? lol like someone's been bad ?	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	i tyhought bitcoin was supposed to be dead etc.	[21:35]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300579 << is it ? canada does it too, but 'commonwealth'. how about you, cazalla ? marks or grades ?	[21:40]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 14:45:54; thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if your mark is bad << what a british way to say "grade"	[21:40]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300614 << hey nice ! i was looking at this one a few months back as a potential victim for my rom-eng secret sauce machine. i think i might just take this translation as a more than adequate starting point, clean it up, and post it :)	[21:48]
assbot	Logged on 16-10-2015 16:17:02; gabrielradio: without further ado - http://pastebin.com/qGE3C9R0	[21:48]
pete_dushenski	off to dinner, cheers !	[21:59]
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cazalla	pete_dushenski, ya know, i can't honestly remember what they're called down under (thanks for other comments too)	[22:37]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300865 << interestingly, they are ~not~ in the mpi seen in gpg 1.4.10... hence the 'where??'	[23:28]
assbot	Logged on 17-10-2015 00:16:36; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : historical version is historical version, whadda ya want from me.	[23:28]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300862 << one sees disproportionate output from drepper, esr, etc., folks who spent the past 20+ yrs walking around in search of things to infect	[23:30]
assbot	Logged on 17-10-2015 00:15:17; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "foss" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.	[23:30]
asciilifeform	(normally not even for any consciously organized purpose, but out of pure narcissism and perhaps cv padding)	[23:30]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300874 << iirc he expelled his boarder	[23:31]
assbot	Logged on 17-10-2015 00:19:54; mircea_popescu: nubbins` iirc is a full fledged rentier, lives off of it	[23:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00048209 = 5.8092 BTC [+]	[23:31]
*	funkenstein_ (~bowler@c-50-187-182-168.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:35]
*	assbot gives voice to funkenstein_	[23:36]
funkenstein_	funk_add_privkey_wallet_tools.vpatch <-- experimental patch sent to btc-dev mailing list	[23:39]
ben_vulpes	nowai	[23:40]
asciilifeform	funkenstein_: didja sign it correctly? not seeing anything	[23:40]
funkenstein_	i thought so but hey, you know how that goes..	[23:40]
ben_vulpes	armored and clearsigned body + patch + patch.sig, right?	[23:41]
funkenstein_	yup	[23:41]
funkenstein_	outgoing email source http://dpaste.com/184SVMG	[23:43]
assbot	dpaste: 184SVMG ... ( http://bit.ly/1jJrZSo )	[23:43]
*	maximian (~maximian@S01062cb05d389a4b.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:48]
asciilifeform	funkenstein_: 0.6 didn't have importprivkey...	[23:48]
funkenstein_	asciilifeform, well then somebody's messing with me	[23:49]
asciilifeform	who?	[23:49]
asciilifeform	i thought you wrote it ?	[23:49]
asciilifeform	or hm, nm	[23:51]
asciilifeform	0.6.3.	[23:51]
funkenstein_	i grabbed some source labeled 0.6.0 which had importprivkey	[23:52]
ben_vulpes	ye olde question of provenance	[23:54]
asciilifeform	funkenstein_: and how did you test ?	[23:54]
funkenstein_	i input a few keys.. they went into the keystore, nothing odd happened	[23:55]
funkenstein_	they later appeared on dumpprivkeys	[23:55]
asciilifeform	funkenstein_: didja send a tx ?	[23:55]
funkenstein_	not yet, just about to	[23:56]
funkenstein_	well, not synced	[23:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00048209 = 2.7961 BTC [+]	[23:59]

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