Forum logs for 16 May 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform | http://dl.tufts.edu/catalog/tufts:MS004.002.006.DO01.00028 | [00:00] |
asciilifeform | ^ Peine Forte et Dure. | [00:00] |
* | mod6 fires up lynx | [00:00] |
asciilifeform | l0l | [00:00] |
mod6 | haha, what's on his chest? sushi rolls? | [00:01] |
asciilifeform | standard weights, presumably | [00:02] |
mod6 | ah ha | [00:02] |
mod6 | ``Strong and Tough Sentence'' | [00:03] |
asciilifeform | peine forte et dure - was not an execution, as such | [00:03] |
mod6 | thought it was just like some occult dining ritual | [00:03] |
asciilifeform | it was a procedure for folks who refused to plead (submit to the jurisdiction of the court. formerly, english courts could only try folks who 'agreed' to be tried) | [00:03] |
mod6 | ah | [00:04] |
asciilifeform | sometimes, 'agreement' required some... persuasion. | [00:04] |
mircea_popescu | no idea how that could un-become being the case. | [00:04] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: perhaps they ran out of good weights | [00:04] |
mod6 | thats when they call in the MOAR.jpg cake eating chick to sit on his face. | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:06] |
asciilifeform | lucky if only sit! | [00:07] |
asciilifeform | (fans of 'forte et dure' will love neal stephenson's mega-backbreaker-yarn 'baroque cycle', where an entire chapter is devoted to it) | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: the 486 was, i admit, because i wanted to play a bit of games again. | [00:10] |
asciilifeform | after decade+ | [00:10] |
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asciilifeform | (and '3d studio' aha) | [00:11] |
mod6 | remember kings quest? that was a 486 game iirc | [00:11] |
asciilifeform | mod6: i have a mega-warez-set of -all- of sierra works (incl. that series) waiting for the day that never comes. | [00:11] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: No shame in that | [00:12] |
asciilifeform | (on that day, i have 1) fanless 486 2) with genuine 'sound blaster 64' 3) trinitron 4) free time.) | [00:12] |
mod6 | asciilifeform: ahh, cool, well, hopefully you'll get to play 'em again | [00:12] |
asciilifeform | perhaps after the war. | [00:12] |
mod6 | there you go | [00:13] |
mod6 | speaking of which... is nosuchlabs.com down? | [00:13] |
asciilifeform | mod6: very much | [00:13] |
asciilifeform | mod6: box went awol | [00:13] |
asciilifeform | so far no word from boxmeisters. | [00:14] |
mod6 | ah, ok. thought /maybe/ i saw that in the log. | [00:14] |
mod6 | was just gonna check on the phuctor stats | [00:14] |
mod6 | thing was cranking through the keys nicely. | [00:14] |
asciilifeform | mod6: what you probably saw was me bitching at mircea_popescu (through whom i have this box) | [00:14] |
asciilifeform | and it was actually in snarf-only mode when it fell down | [00:15] |
mod6 | ah. well it got bored maybe. | [00:15] |
* | asciilifeform bbl | [00:15] |
mod6 | im getting closer to my v0.5.3.1-RELEASE perf full bc sync baseline being finished; currently on block 304969 -- it did oomkill today though, and didn't see it for like 8-9 hours :/ | [00:18] |
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mod6 | there will be some flat lines in the charts, but should still be able to get some sort of picture showing us the diff in network traf & other utilization metrics. | [00:20] |
mod6 | After this one is done, I was going to run a vanilla v0.5.3 to get a baseline from that as well. And I will do that, but did remember that it /does/ at least require the db patch to achieve full sync. | [00:21] |
mircea_popescu | i dsunno, tis being looked into | [00:21] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I couldn't find any of your fanless thin clients on ebay | [00:21] |
decimation | ebay's selection of old electronics seems to thin daily | [00:21] |
mod6 | Then I can compare and contrast and work with ben on a writeup for qntra | [00:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 335200 @ 0.00027011 = 90.5409 BTC [-] {3} | [00:26] |
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mircea_popescu | prety cool mod6 | [00:28] |
mod6 | thx. :] | [00:30] |
mod6 | ``That's one small step for man, one giant leap for every, complaining, son of a bitch on the face of the Earth.'' << lol! | [00:30] |
mod6 | they have McBucks now 'eh? During february, clown-burger up here actually let you pay in ``hugs''. | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | "In 2010, Poole was reported to have raised $625,000 to create a new online enterprise, Canvas. The web site opened on January 31, 2011, and features digitally modified images uploaded by users who are required to self-identify using Facebook Connect. In January 2014, Poole announced that Canvas, and its DrawQuest feature, would be going out of business." | [00:35] |
mircea_popescu | win. | [00:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.0002717 = 5.0265 BTC [+] | [00:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176967 @ 0.0002717 = 48.0819 BTC [+] | [00:39] |
mod6 | Speaking of Blazing Saddles... that movie is so damn funny. I must have watched it 20x as a kid. But what's interesting was recently I heard/read about these "Animal Trials" in Europe during the middle-ages. Makes me think of that part where they're hanging that guy AND his horse. lol | [00:47] |
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trinque | I'm a huge Mel Brooks fan, was pleased to see him come up on Trilema | [00:49] |
mod6 | yeah same :] | [00:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33475 @ 0.0002717 = 9.0952 BTC [+] | [00:51] |
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adlai | nick said... | [00:55] |
adlai | I miswrote: All this is more wasteful than gold mining. | [00:55] |
adlai | Ha ha! That was supposed to read "no more wasteful than gold mining." | [00:55] |
adlai | ( http://unenumerated.blogspot.co.il/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.html#c2895881719135531091 ) | [00:56] |
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Namworld | [20:19] <+mircea_popescu> https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1431734890584.jpg << is this the Namworld household ? | [00:58] |
Namworld | That's too much cats. One is enough for me. | [00:58] |
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Namworld | I'd probably wouldn't keep a computer open like that or let kittens in it... | [00:59] |
mod6 | insane dipshit madlibs is right. | [01:08] |
mod6 | +1 for hanbot's "Narf" - pinky & the brain ref. | [01:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275850 @ 0.00026818 = 73.9775 BTC [-] {2} | [01:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153550 @ 0.00027291 = 41.9053 BTC [+] | [01:19] |
mod6 | haha | [01:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10786 @ 0.00026748 = 2.885 BTC [-] | [01:36] |
cazalla | gee i got scammed at the nursery, sold a plant with DRM (PBR) | [02:11] |
mircea_popescu | take it back! | [02:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 219700 @ 0.00027421 = 60.2439 BTC [+] {3} | [02:13] |
cazalla | too late as i've already potted it up, but at least i learned about this plant breeders rights rubbish.. guess i'll have some cutting warez in a few years time | [02:15] |
cazalla | who would've thought you can have a cracked copy of a tree | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | so this entire moot-Mallory Blair Greitzer thing reads a lot like, skank fucking raid leader for jools. | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | which i think happens about 9k times a year, just, usually nobody outside of the guild forum gives a shit | [02:17] |
cazalla | meh cuckchan died long before that anyway | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, i've had a decent chuckle reading the reports pushed by people scrambling to cope with my brusque, sudden, unexpected movements. | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | to quote a random derp, "for instance - military strategy" | [02:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135228 @ 0.00026526 = 35.8706 BTC [-] {3} | [02:29] |
decimation | heh "Blizzard Entertainment has banned ?a large number? of World of Warcraft accounts after finding that they were using bots, or ?third-party programs that automate gameplay? according to a company post. " | [02:31] |
decimation | rpgs are full of bots! the horror! | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [02:31] |
cazalla | decimation, welcome to 10 years ago | [02:31] |
cazalla | i had a few extra accounts i used with wowglider to mine ore and herbs | [02:32] |
decimation | apparently they banned "a large number" of accounts http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17347095985 | [02:32] |
cazalla | reads as the standard announcement they've been making for years now | [02:33] |
decimation | cazalla: I got to think thaw wow is losing popularity | [02:33] |
decimation | it would be interesting to know the actual revenue figures | [02:33] |
cazalla | the sub numbers are out there, it peaked like 5 years ago | [02:34] |
cazalla | i quit after wotlk but i was a day one nov 2004 player so.. | [02:34] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2015#1133775 << no one noticed this detail !?!?! | [02:34] |
assbot | Logged on 16-05-2015 03:14:16; mod6: im getting closer to my v0.5.3.1-RELEASE perf full bc sync baseline being finished; currently on block 304969 -- it did oomkill today though, and didn't see it for like 8-9 hours :/ | [02:34] |
decimation | you gotta think that at some point the thing flips and blizzard would welcome chinese farmers | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | so it -doesn't- run in constant space. | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | -nor- has any detectable (through the usual automatic means, e.g. valgrind) leaks. | [02:35] |
cazalla | decimation, they allow gold buying/seller for game time in recent months | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | mod6: please post any data you may have collected at the moment of the oomkill | [02:36] |
cazalla | they game is fucking long dead though.. it made everything fair so that all players are equal.. seriously.. why even bother playing an mmorpg then if i can't grief the fuck out of people with my rare sword and mount | [02:36] |
asciilifeform | incl., if you have it, a core dump | [02:36] |
cazalla | that game.. i swear i have brain damage from alcohol : | [02:36] |
asciilifeform | this goes for anyone else who got oomkill with orphanage-thermonuke specifically, on a box with ad libitum ram | [02:36] |
decimation | asciilifeform: on another project I've been chasing an oomkill that happens ... when acpi is turned on | [02:37] |
asciilifeform | l0lwut | [02:38] |
asciilifeform | reliably? | [02:38] |
decimation | asciilifeform: absolutely | [02:38] |
decimation | I've still not gotten to the bottom of it, but my point is that the kernel could also be at fault | [02:38] |
decimation | and/or hardware batshit | [02:39] |
asciilifeform | decimation: take that machine out to the boonies and use for target practice. | [02:39] |
decimation | would love to | [02:39] |
decimation | asciilifeform: it's really hard to find detailed specs for all the shitty thin terms out there | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | decimation: mostly low-end p1s | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | of very little interest, even historical kind | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | and you won't find one with isa slot. | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | (before anyone asks, i fucking hate 'dosbox' emulator) | [02:43] |
decimation | why do you need isa?? | [02:43] |
decimation | hehe yeah that makes sense | [02:43] |
asciilifeform | for the sb64 of course | [02:43] |
decimation | heh. I still remember my old soundblaster | [02:43] |
decimation | I think i trashed it years ago | [02:43] |
decimation | you can never get the timing right one emulators | [02:44] |
asciilifeform | it is theoretically possible to get the sound right. but never happened, and i doubt - ever will | [02:44] |
* | decimation remembers playing space quest on his 8088 | [02:44] |
decimation | with - cga graphics | [02:44] |
decimation | I remember thinking as a kid 'why would you not always have the turbo button activated?' | [02:45] |
asciilifeform | decimation: 'turbo' on my old boxes, it turned out, just disabled l2 cache. the lamps lied to us. | [02:45] |
cazalla | did you have a keyboard lock on your tower? my old man tried that shit on me but some how i had the idea to open it up and remove cable | [02:45] |
asciilifeform | (mine had a set of led lamps which toggled number, supposedly cpu clock, from '40' to '10') | [02:45] |
asciilifeform | had keyboard lock, but misplaced key almost immediately after we got it | [02:46] |
asciilifeform | had thought 'who in his right mind would lock' | [02:46] |
cazalla | parents | [02:46] |
asciilifeform | lol | [02:46] |
decimation | as I recall it was an epson apex http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633612 | [02:48] |
decimation | assbot is dead? | [02:48] |
decimation | then later I got a 486DX from gateway | [02:49] |
decimation | I ran slackware on it for a little while, kernel 1.2 as I recall | [02:50] |
decimation | I wish I would have met a neckbeard at that time who would have forced me to learn emacs | [02:50] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 278100 @ 0.00026285 = 73.0986 BTC [-] {3} | [03:02] |
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decimation | asciilifeform: http://www.menuetos.net/index.htm < menuetos hit 1.0 release | [03:36] |
mod6 | <+asciilifeform> mod6: please post any data you may have collected at the moment of the oomkill << so just to reiterate here, the current perf test I'm running is with the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE which oomkill'd (as it's known to do). I'll post the nmon charts, log, and vmstat log. no core file was created. However, as a reminder, the previous perf test that I ran with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE+{asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke.patch}(http://thebitcoin.foundatio | [03:42] |
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mod6 | Addtionally, I 100% agree, if anyone else should test either of these and capture anything surrounding the OOMKILL either in the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE or a patched version of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE, please let us know. | [03:43] |
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mod6 | Once I have all the baseline perf metrics collected, I'll be making a posting about it and will publish the data. | [03:46] |
Namworld | They turned web traffic into fireworks. "The attacks shown are based on a small subset of live flows against the Norse honeypot infrastructure, representing actual worldwide cyber attacks by bad actors." | [03:51] |
Namworld | http://map.ipviking.com/ | [03:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239729 @ 0.00026243 = 62.9121 BTC [-] {4} | [03:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 213063 @ 0.00026904 = 57.3225 BTC [+] {2} | [04:23] |
cazalla | well, slow west is a shitty movie let alone a western | [04:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 261469 @ 0.00026078 = 68.1859 BTC [-] {2} | [04:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 157880 @ 0.00027555 = 43.5038 BTC [+] {3} | [06:33] |
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jurov | http://imgur.com/OVvSEKA | [07:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17222 @ 0.00026831 = 4.6208 BTC [+] | [07:37] |
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mircea_popescu | !up cherrry | [08:10] |
-assbot- | You voiced cherrry for 30 minutes. | [08:10] |
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Jezzz | joesmoe jordandotdev Jrum julmac jurov | [08:10] |
mircea_popescu | !up Jrum | [08:10] |
-assbot- | You voiced Jrum for 30 minutes. | [08:10] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu: pls http://live.coinbr.com/images/coinroll_728x90.png -> https://coinroll.com/?r=99 | [09:40] |
jurov | and http://live.coinbr.com/images/coinbr_hauls_728x90.png - | [09:41] |
jurov | -> https://coinbr.com | [09:41] |
jurov | since one double cherry truck is too few! | [09:42] |
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mircea_popescu | !up wiz | [10:12] |
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mircea_popescu | over here wiz. | [10:13] |
wiz | I've been reading your website recently, your blog articles are great | [10:14] |
wiz | Roger Ver first told me about your exchange a few weeks ago, I've been reading your site in my spare time since then | [10:14] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [10:14] |
mircea_popescu | anything in particular ? | [10:14] |
wiz | and I'm listening to this video now, that's how I heard about the channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWgPpDRo9AQ | [10:14] |
wiz | well, I really like the concept of "unregistered corporations" | [10:15] |
mircea_popescu | wait, someone made a youtube about b-a ? | [10:15] |
wiz | well he mentioned the channel several times so far in the presentation | [10:15] |
mircea_popescu | pretty cool | [10:16] |
wiz | it occured to me that once underground markets master the art of operatings as "unregistered corporations", they will be at a huge competitive advantage to state-registered corporations | [10:17] |
wiz | and eventually, corporations will migrate to being unregistered, to remain competitive | [10:17] |
wiz | i mean, not paying tax to the state, or being restricted by their regulations, etc. is a huge competitive advantage in any market, white or black | [10:18] |
mircea_popescu | kinda the idea. | [10:19] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov you're live | [10:21] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu: jolly good | [10:46] |
jurov | copypaste: the banners are truncated on bottom/right :-/ | [10:48] |
jurov | both in ff and chrome | [10:48] |
jurov | and i can§t get the coinbr one to show | [10:50] |
copypaste | I see why. Your HTML output should make sure to have no page margin. The image must be right in the top left hand corner of the browser. | [10:50] |
copypaste | I didn't notice it because all the current ads fit. | [10:51] |
copypaste | I think that a style on the tag like padding:0;margin:0 should fix it. | [10:51] |
copypaste | I can't do that on my end though, has to be done on the calling website (trilema.com). | [10:51] |
copypaste | Regarding not being able to add your own ad, only mircea_popescu can do that/knows how. | [10:52] |
jurov | i know. i like to fill the image as close to the border as possible | [10:52] |
jurov | just one of the things that causes seizures to my friend pro designer :) | [10:53] |
copypaste | Understood. Hopefully mircea will fix that when he wakes up. :) Need to put a tag around the tag, with style="padding:0;margin:0" | [10:53] |
copypaste | It's 10PM here so I'm headed off soon. | [10:54] |
copypaste | (well, ten minutes to) | [10:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73482 @ 0.00027774 = 20.4089 BTC [-] | [10:54] |
jurov | bye! | [10:55] |
jurov | coinbr is there. so only the margins | [10:55] |
jurov | yes i can confirm setting body style="padding:0;margin:0;" in the iframe fixes it | [10:59] |
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funkenstein_ | a toy I have been working on called "coin-vote" | [11:07] |
funkenstein_ | 199.193.248.126:3000/ | [11:08] |
funkenstein_ | I leave a prototype here in hopes for feedback / being ripped to shreds / other | [11:09] |
funkenstein_ | one sat, one vote | [11:12] |
funkenstein_ | one coin one vote sounds cooler, but it's really a per satoshi kinda thing | [11:15] |
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mircea_popescu | copypaste better nao ? | [11:47] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i actually saw both o' em | [11:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32929 @ 0.00027769 = 9.1441 BTC [-] {2} | [11:48] |
jurov | mircea_popescu yes, it's all OK now | [11:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.0002767 = 1.6522 BTC [-] | [11:49] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell funkenstein_ https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1431787597621.jpg problem ? | [11:51] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [11:51] |
mircea_popescu | "Welcome to my first tutorial. My nickname's 187 or Assassin. Right now I'm touching up on my Visual C++ skills and working on a game engine." | [11:55] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform o btw dulap's back, magically. | [11:57] |
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danielpbarron | !up teek who are you? | [13:02] |
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funkenstein_ | thanks for feedback.. hmm node.js causing problems fancy that | [13:50] |
funkenstein_ | i had hopes this would be the project that tuned me into wtf node.js was all about | [13:50] |
funkenstein_ | http://199.193.248.126:3000/#/polls <-- perhaps better link | [13:50] |
funkenstein_ | one person figured out how to vote, nice :) | [13:51] |
funkenstein_ | meanwhile "what makes it page" by mertignetti arrives on my doorstep.. why on earth did i buy this? | [13:52] |
asciilifeform | funkenstein_: either mats or i recommended it ? | [14:00] |
asciilifeform | but it is a book for winblows reversers | [14:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176286 @ 0.0002749 = 48.461 BTC [+] {3} | [14:02] |
davout | asciilifeform: could you recommend a couple C books for the eager student? | [14:04] |
asciilifeform | davec: kernighan&richie, 'the c programming language' | [14:04] |
asciilifeform | is really the only book. | [14:05] |
asciilifeform | if you must also have another, | [14:05] |
asciilifeform | http://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/138815/Linden_-_Expert_C_Programming:_Deep_C_Secrets.pdf | [14:05] |
asciilifeform | ^ more historical and quirks sorta thing than language per se, but i still give it to beginners | [14:05] |
asciilifeform | these are the two books. | [14:06] |
davout | ok, i'll have a look ty | [14:06] |
asciilifeform | everything else, esp. the backbreakers with enormous print and oceans of whitespace that you will encounter at your local bookstore, is garbage | [14:06] |
davout | won't the first one miss some updates of the C standard? | [14:08] |
asciilifeform | davout: get the 2nd ed. | [14:08] |
davout | ok | [14:08] |
asciilifeform | davout: (not hard, because 1st ed. is virtually impossible to find. i actually preferred it, though, had better paper. and the differences are negligible) | [14:08] |
davout | asking because this one looks seems dated from '88 -> http://www.amazon.fr/Programming-Language-Brian-W-Kernighan/dp/0131103628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431795705&sr=8-1&keywords=the+c+programming+language | [14:09] |
davout | ah, actually it *is* the second edition | [14:10] |
funkenstein_ | asciilifeform, thnks :) | [14:10] |
* | danielpbarron adds another to the list -> http://danielpbarron.com/ascii_book_list.txt | [14:11] |
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asciilifeform | l0l | [14:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82289 @ 0.00027122 = 22.3184 BTC [-] | [14:14] |
funkenstein_ | bookfinder.com hasn't changed in like a decade and still rules | [14:21] |
asciilifeform | aha | [14:21] |
* | asciilifeform heavy user of bookfinder | [14:21] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [20:03] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [20:03] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 | [20:03] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice. | [20:03] |
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deedbot- | [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Gold Rush! - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/16/gold-rush/ | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | copypaste https://8ch.net/btc/res/113.html#146 << ppls like the gpg lol | [20:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77000 @ 0.00027782 = 21.3921 BTC [+] {4} | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2015#1134060 << yeah, i know that place. right across the straights from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwDDswGsJ60 | [20:46] |
assbot | Logged on 16-05-2015 21:48:24; asciilifeform: (almost certainly not, i might add, per watt. plant it somewhere mains power is 'phree') | [20:46] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2015#1134068 << i was gonna say, what do you do about accumulated errors. alpha emission was bad enough, this seems degrees of magnitude more so | [20:49] |
assbot | Logged on 16-05-2015 21:54:31; asciilifeform: (assembling these into a circuit with 'weakest link' still permitting these speeds, is 'an exercise for the alert reader') | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | jurov lol at the >9000 watt thing | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | lol nice one pete! | [20:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7011 @ 0.00027976 = 1.9614 BTC [+] {2} | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | you gotta add a zoom of the damned gerbils | [20:54] |
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assbot | Logged on 16-05-2015 22:45:49; asciilifeform: jurov: if going to tubes, one ought to stop thinking in terms of gates and start considering how much computation can be carried out by one flying electron... | [21:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00027704 = 10.86 BTC [-] | [21:39] |
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Rozal | buying 10 BTC, anyone selling? | [21:41] |
Rozal | bank deposit | [21:41] |
Rozal | wrong channel | [21:42] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user jurov to user Rozal: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jurov&dest=Rozal | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Rozal | Rated since: Thu Jan 17 09:32:27 2013 | [21:43] |
ben_vulpes | asciilifeform, trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-05-2015#1123556 << what's the story for managing tar files via portage? | [21:47] |
assbot | Logged on 07-05-2015 03:36:21; asciilifeform: stas@humanoid ~ $ ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/dieharder-3.31.1.tgz | [21:47] |
ben_vulpes | ah | [21:51] |
ben_vulpes | no, but it's a very useful answer | [21:51] |
ben_vulpes | gentoo quest | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | copypaste https://8ch.net/btc/res/117.html#170 << check you out, banned by minijust no less! | [22:03] |
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mircea_popescu | !up ni291187 | [22:40] |
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mircea_popescu | and it is now time for a review of teh various butthurt! | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/186432.html << "So why are there specific ads on /v/ which are retarded /pol/-tier shit?" | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | http://v8chan.com/thread/3791455/why-does-hotwheels-allow-such-racist-offensive-ads.html | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | "This is so FUCKING disgusting, holy shit" | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile on /pol/, https://8ch.net/pol/res/2049610.html "Who is this fucktard and why do I have to see his retarded quotes as ads on every board?" | [22:52] |
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ben_vulpes | https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1431819761056.gif | [22:57] |
ben_vulpes | in bitcoin-related nooz... | [22:57] |
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mircea_popescu | hey, that looks like a bunch of dudes slapping the shit out of some chick | [22:58] |
ben_vulpes | how can one ever tell with these internet gifs | [23:00] |
ben_vulpes | could be dogs in costumes | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://v8chan.com/thread/3744246/what-is-this-ad.html << "As much I don't want to bring in /pol/ into every discussion, /leftypol/ is a hundred times worse. You're fucking cancer." / "its fags like you who make these threads the worst" / "No, it's fags like you who get triggered if anything remotely /pol/-like is mentioned, and I don't even like /pol/. Get the fuck out." / "You’re mentally disabled if you don’t thi | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | nk that is a good thing." | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | ahhh dude, chan is exactly where it was in 2005. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | feelsgood.png | [23:01] |
cazalla | the fuck is v8chan | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | nfi. | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | prolly some sort of backup thing | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | https://archive.is/0WWr6 < here we go | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | the /b/ one ( b/res/2686327.html apparently) didn't get archived. | [23:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://8archive.moe/v/thread/3744246 << archive found. | [23:10] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2511 @ 0.00068101 = 1.71 BTC [-] {2} | [23:17] |
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mircea_popescu | "man, i hadnt seen an ad on the interne in years. thought it was a banner for awhile" << bwahahaha. | [23:26] |
mircea_popescu | web experts derp about how MP doesn't know shit. then mp makes something that owns anything they've ever seen in penetration. then they don't knowtice, because one can't be stupid and perceptive at the same time. | [23:27] |
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mircea_popescu | !up indiancandy1 | [23:27] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ud itt | [23:30] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=itt | ITT. Usually done in all caps, it is the first post on a fourm. It directly mean In This ... ITT I'm wrong compared to popular opinion but I'll post this definition anyway. | [23:30] |
indiancandy1 | hi every body | [23:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11660 @ 0.00027979 = 3.2624 BTC [+] | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | heya | [23:32] |
decimation | asciilifeform: adlai interesting 'application specific' tube logic links | [23:36] |
ben_vulpes | deedbot-: add feed http://cascadianhacker.com/index.xml | [23:38] |
ben_vulpes | !up deedbot- | [23:39] |
ben_vulpes | deedbot-: add feed http://cascadianhacker.com/index.xml | [23:39] |
ben_vulpes | trinque! | [23:39] |
ben_vulpes | http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/16_electronics-hack-night-featuring-the-twiddler-and-asciilifeforms-trng.html << scoop | [23:39] |
* | assbot gives voice to deedbot- | [23:39] |
decimation | it occurs to me that one use of deedbot would be timestamping potential evidence, like camera/video captures | [23:40] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134106 << they did exist, 'field emission display' (essentially a crt with one electron gun - of cold cathode type - per subpixel!) | [23:40] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134108 << they don't need to turn sharp corners, in our hypothetical machine | [23:41] |
assbot | Logged on 17-05-2015 00:04:19; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2015#1134094 if we'd be able to manipulate electron ray so precisely, why no thin CRT's exist? | [23:41] |
assbot | Logged on 17-05-2015 00:08:31; jurov: i suspect turning electrons in sharp curves needs a strong mag field -> high current | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | aaand /btc/ is nao in the top 50th most read boards on 8chan >> https://8ch.net/boards.html | [23:42] |
decimation | ben_vulpes: I have one of those usb knobs | [23:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8546 @ 0.00027986 = 2.3917 BTC [+] {2} | [23:43] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: what does the knob do ? | [23:43] |
decimation | I use it to tune my virtual radio | [23:44] |
ben_vulpes | twiddles kitchen lead time for operators of trinque's webmachine | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | aha it's a joystick | [23:44] |
* | ben_vulpes off to wedding | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: before you go - did it work ? | [23:44] |
decimation | https://store.griffintechnology.com/powermate | [23:44] |
asciilifeform | and wai wat | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes plugged it into a serial port ?!?!! | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | (after i explained, in agonizing detail, why this will not work...) | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | and who holds soldering iron like this, l0l! | [23:46] |
decimation | asciilifeform: looks like one of those ebay usb/3.3v serial dongles | [23:46] |
decimation | someone who doesn't have a proper vice | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | vice?! | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | for soldering iron! lol | [23:47] |
decimation | or holder deal | [23:47] |
decimation | no, for the object being soldered | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | decimation: that dongle is just the thing for, e.g., pogo - but the rng is not a rs232 device... | [23:47] |
asciilifeform | it doesn't spit out start or stop bits | [23:48] |
decimation | heh | [23:48] |
asciilifeform | http://www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/image-files/how-rs232-works-tx-logic-rs232-diag.png << example | [23:48] |
asciilifeform | (if it did, it would be perfectly usable as rs232) | [23:48] |
asciilifeform | but it doesn't. | [23:49] |
decimation | did you intend to use an spi device | [23:49] |
asciilifeform | nope | [23:49] |
asciilifeform | it's raw rng | [23:49] |
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decimation | ah I see | [23:49] |
asciilifeform | i.e. a pin that changes level when it wants. | [23:49] |
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decimation | so really you need a '1-bit adc' | [23:50] |
asciilifeform | now, if you have a -very- well-behaved os, you could sample it as rs232 anyway. but then you discover (see old mircea_popescu article where we stepped on this caltrop!) that you end up losing bytes that match 'control' section of ascii table | [23:50] |
decimation | asciilifeform: or you could use a parallel port, if your computer has one | [23:51] |
asciilifeform | decimation: this was what i told ben_vulpes at c3 | [23:51] |
asciilifeform | to use parallel port | [23:51] |
asciilifeform | or, if cannot find machine having such - sound card | [23:51] |
indiancandy1 | huh | [23:51] |
decimation | one can still buy 'em even for pci express | [23:51] |
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asciilifeform | decimation: i have one such installed right here | [23:51] |
asciilifeform | in regular use. | [23:51] |
decimation | I would worry about potential noise in the sound card | [23:52] |
indiancandy1 | wat r y talkin bout | [23:52] |
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asciilifeform | decimation: the noise doesn't matter, rng outputs logic-level signal | [23:52] |
decimation | but if the levels are high enough and you use some kind of clipping algorithm it wouldn't be an issue | [23:52] |
williamdunne | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbmWGrQjgTA anyone seen this dose of autism? | [23:52] |
decimation | indiancandy1: sampling random signals | [23:52] |
indiancandy1 | wat | [23:53] |
indiancandy1 | abt hot guys here lol | [23:53] |
indiancandy1 | any********* | [23:53] |
asciilifeform | indiancandy1: sorry only cold | [23:54] |
williamdunne | indiancandy1: I'm a 7" tall Somalian | [23:54] |
williamdunne | Or is that 7'? | [23:54] |
williamdunne | I can never remember | [23:54] |
asciilifeform | indiancandy1: and the item we were talking about, was this: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mf3_compare.jpg | [23:54] |
indiancandy1 | i just bought some baloons of a somalian | [23:54] |
asciilifeform | specifically the one on the left. | [23:54] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I wonder how cricital sampling clock variation would be | [23:55] |
asciilifeform | decimation: the problem with using sound card would be that it has ac-coupled input. | [23:55] |
indiancandy1 | there is a somalian guu | [23:55] |
williamdunne | indiancandy1: they break yet? | [23:55] |
indiancandy1 | guy seelling baloons | [23:55] |
indiancandy1 | with that gass in | [23:55] |
indiancandy1 | on the street | [23:55] |
indiancandy1 | the gass they give to pregnant | [23:55] |
decimation | asciilifeform: yeah good point. you could use it with an analog mixer and an audio signal generator | [23:55] |
williamdunne | asciilifeform: Excuse my ignorance, but what is the box over the chips for? | [23:56] |
williamdunne | indiancandy1: *inflate. | [23:56] |
asciilifeform | williamdunne: rf shield (in the photo, it is missing the cover) | [23:56] |
cazalla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134218 <<< matches indiancandy1's 7" nose | [23:56] |
assbot | Logged on 17-05-2015 02:50:28; williamdunne: indiancandy1: I'm a 7" tall Somalian | [23:56] |
asciilifeform | williamdunne: see third photo from ben_vulpes's link for what cover looked like | [23:56] |
williamdunne | Ahh I see, looks good. Didn't realize how complete it looks | [23:57] |
decimation | asciilifeform: your old soundblaster card came with a joystick input | [23:57] |
williamdunne | indiancandy1: who are you? | [23:57] |
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decimation | as I recall they were dc-coupled potentiometers | [23:57] |
asciilifeform | williamdunne: she is/was one of mircea_popescu's camgurlz, iirc | [23:57] |
asciilifeform | !up indiancandy1 | [23:58] |
* | assbot gives voice to indiancandy1 | [23:58] |
williamdunne | indiancandy1: asciilifeform: ahh I see, indian have you met Naphex? | [23:58] |
indiancandy1 | who am i | [23:58] |
williamdunne | yes | [23:58] |
asciilifeform | decimation: at any rate, the -correct- way to sample these for experimental purposes is with either parallel port or a generic i/o gadget (e.g., 'ftdi') | [23:58] |
indiancandy1 | im like the only pretty girl who comes in here | [23:58] |
williamdunne | Thats subjective | [23:59] |
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