Forum logs for 16 Mar 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
| pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: pretty much! | [00:00] |
| thestringpuller | this is a new push for "Encryption as a Service" | [00:00] |
| thestringpuller | which is fucktarded to say the least | [00:00] |
| pete_dushenski | hey, if car cleaning is a service... | [00:00] |
| thestringpuller | http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/encryption-as-a-service-EaaS << how can you even trust this? | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu | car cleanning doesn't randomly switch your tires out with popsicles. | [00:01] |
| thestringpuller | ^- omg this | [00:01] |
| pete_dushenski | lol | [00:01] |
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| pete_dushenski | or line the doors with drugs and send you to "a friend's house" | [00:02] |
| thestringpuller | Is this really the only thing coming out of SXSW?!? | [00:03] |
| mircea_popescu | http://38.media.tumblr.com/3b0cb0bfcc9e0e9b908b9852b3d6028e/tumblr_mnz52chA1r1sp79mwo1_500.gif masturbation is fun | [00:04] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bnk524 ) | [00:04] |
| pete_dushenski | thestringpuller: and some lulzy 'anti-robot' demonstration | [00:05] |
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| thestringpuller | !up pete_dushenski | [00:05] |
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| pete_dushenski | thx! | [00:05] |
| pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: fun and productive! | [00:06] |
| mircea_popescu | sxsw! | [00:06] |
| thestringpuller | pete_dushenski: you forgot Carrie First Bitcoin Pedicab Driver! | [00:07] |
| pete_dushenski | eh ? | [00:07] |
| pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: mad! | [00:08] |
| thestringpuller | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct8uBO6ir3M | [00:08] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.0003221 = 7.972 BTC [+] | [00:08] |
| thestringpuller | she's already made a whole bitcoin in tipping! LOL. | [00:08] |
| pete_dushenski | not bad, not bad. | [00:10] |
| cazalla | wow, i want to punch that guy in the face after 5 seconds of that video | [00:12] |
| pete_dushenski | well, his fragile ego is but an angry tweet away | [00:13] |
| pete_dushenski | relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LABGimhsEys | [00:14] |
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| assbot | Celebrities Read Mean Tweets #8 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FnrkNL ) | [00:14] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64650 @ 0.00032098 = 20.7514 BTC [-] {2} | [00:18] |
| cazalla | thestringpuller, i bet the majority of tips came from people who didn't even get a ride.. 1 btc, almost worth the time to contrive a similar video | [00:18] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152771 @ 0.00032552 = 49.73 BTC [+] {2} | [00:45] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92829 @ 0.00032862 = 30.5055 BTC [+] | [00:46] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00031984 = 10.2988 BTC [-] {2} | [00:49] |
| BingoBoingo | Some midnight Havelol rumors https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991172.0 | [00:55] |
| assbot | HAVELOCK tried to BRIBE ME! ... ( http://bit.ly/1BnroXM ) | [00:55] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00032767 = 18.3168 BTC [+] | [00:57] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122849 @ 0.00032957 = 40.4873 BTC [+] {3} | [01:21] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00033021 = 12.3333 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79424 @ 0.00033021 = 26.2266 BTC [+] | [01:59] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118700 @ 0.00031985 = 37.9662 BTC [-] {3} | [02:05] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73843 @ 0.00031938 = 23.584 BTC [-] {2} | [02:09] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.00031731 = 2.6251 BTC [-] | [02:17] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22222 @ 0.00031655 = 7.0344 BTC [-] | [02:35] |
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| ben_vulpes | https://twitter.com/Nahyeni/status/572123280724914176 | [02:53] |
| assbot | when i saw this i realized all my friendships fake http://t.co/AUFdNX2Ab9 | [02:53] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14890 @ 0.00031655 = 4.7134 BTC [-] | [03:01] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 157100 @ 0.00032061 = 50.3678 BTC [+] {4} | [03:03] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16004 @ 0.00031646 = 5.0646 BTC [-] {2} | [03:08] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0142789 = 2.8558 BTC [+] {7} | [03:16] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.00032821 = 21.2024 BTC [+] {2} | [03:18] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70745 @ 0.0003295 = 23.3105 BTC [+] {2} | [03:27] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 163073 @ 0.00031561 = 51.4675 BTC [-] {2} | [03:32] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122850 @ 0.00031214 = 38.3464 BTC [-] {3} | [03:43] |
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| mircea_popescu | !up aegis | [04:05] |
| -assbot- | You voiced aegis for 30 minutes. | [04:05] |
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| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo "errying LEGAL that touches x will touch you too!!11" omfg who let the shamans out of africa. | [04:14] |
| mircea_popescu | now we gotta contend with legavoodoo | [04:14] |
| BingoBoingo | Wurst Voodoo | [04:15] |
| mircea_popescu | in other news, nude dancer girl. http://40.media.tumblr.com/2d3ae273a07e14008e974530cfc47012/tumblr_n2ejftciH81s8rc6go1_1280.jpg | [04:15] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1ClZMJF ) | [04:15] |
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| BingoBoingo | !up Vexual | [04:22] |
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| Vexual | hey hey hey | [04:22] |
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| BingoBoingo | !up Vexual | [04:32] |
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| Vexual | pete_d did you see the total recall 3 tittie in negril? | [04:32] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52354 @ 0.00031887 = 16.6941 BTC [+] | [04:33] |
| Vexual | me thinks one was a fat roll, but still.. | [04:33] |
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| Vexual | cant beat some bootleg ska | [04:35] |
| Vexual | banned on the internet and shit | [04:36] |
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| cazalla | fluffypony, are you vegan? | [04:48] |
| fluffypony | cazalla: no, my wife is | [04:48] |
| * | fluffypony couldn't be bothered | [04:48] |
| cazalla | i just saw that pop by on twitter, that's why i ask :P | [04:48] |
| fluffypony | I love animals, but not enough to change my diet | [04:48] |
| cazalla | i love them too because they are so tasty | [04:49] |
| Vexual | ^ | [04:53] |
| fluffypony | lol | [04:54] |
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| Vexual | !up BingoBoingo | [04:56] |
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| scoopbot | New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/amid-decision-to-close-allcrypt-com-reports-hot-wallet-theft/ | [05:00] |
| cazalla | i sometimes wonder if the guys who set up these two bit exchanges get frustrated at having lost money after a year despite an expectation they would get bought out and so decide to just steal their users instead so they can sleep well at night thinking they got that illusive 6 billion dorrah google buy out | [05:02] |
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| BingoBoingo | !up Vexual | [05:07] |
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| mircea_popescu | just about. | [05:07] |
| mircea_popescu | if you go through the insanities they [used to] drop on the forum, the way unemployed/unemployable css derp sees the matter is, "he put 1000 hours worth 100 dollars each into the thing that is not really worth anything. so how about the users split the damage ?" | [05:08] |
| mircea_popescu | that his hours aren't worth anything isn't a point he's well inclined to grasp under torture, let alone figure out on his own. | [05:09] |
| mircea_popescu | that the site isn't worth anything FOR THAT REASON idem. | [05:09] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34839 @ 0.00033187 = 11.562 BTC [+] | [05:15] |
| * | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [13:08] |
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| mircea_popescu | Global Innovation 8:22 am 19 KiB Looking for $5M funding or above? | [13:23] |
| mircea_popescu | ahem. | [13:23] |
| nubbins` | actually i'm only looking for 4.9mn | [13:28] |
| nubbins` | i'll look elsewhere | [13:28] |
| nubbins` | mildly unrelated, if i can help it, pink eye will never accept funds or loans from outside investors | [13:29] |
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| nubbins` | !up ascii_field | [13:30] |
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| nubbins` | !up ascii_field | [13:31] |
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| nubbins` | oopsie | [13:31] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;later tell pete_dushenski yo, did you see http://brendafernandez.com/ ? i guess it goes to ben_vulpes too. | [13:31] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:31] |
| assbot | Brenda Blog | ~ Not your average bitcoin girl ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVpLrs ) | [13:31] |
| nubbins` | ;;calc 60*28 | [13:31] |
| gribble | 1680 | [13:31] |
| ascii_field | ben_vulpes: 'meep' electromagnetic... << i must confess that i never tried | [13:32] |
| mircea_popescu | nubbins` here's the kicker : "If your company meets theses requirements, fill in the form below and we'll be in..." | [13:32] |
| nubbins` | lel | [13:32] |
| nubbins` | requirements: must want $5mn+ | [13:32] |
| ascii_field | encryption-as-a-service << that has to be a piece from 'the onion' | [13:32] |
| nubbins` | marriage consummation as a service | [13:32] |
| ascii_field | ^ | [13:33] |
| nubbins` | ^ this, i WILL accept outside funding | [13:33] |
| ascii_field | supposedly, quasi-mythically, existed on some pacific island | [13:33] |
| nubbins` | was it the one where they used wood^H^H^H^Hstone bitcoin | [13:33] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field remember how some idiot was offering this in 2012 and we laughed him out ? well... the vc circus picked it up. because that's what they do, they feed off our offal. | [13:33] |
| nubbins` | http://imgur.com/GYNidM1 | [13:35] |
| assbot | Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/18xMlIW ) | [13:35] |
| nubbins` | pat canning, what an artist | [13:35] |
| thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: her sense of humor is my cup of tea | [13:37] |
| thestringpuller | I wonder if she'll come to the conference | [13:38] |
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| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: they feed off it, yes, and i suppose they split its atoms because they are very well-fed from it. | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu | thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-112020 i suspect hte answer is "definitely". | [13:38] |
| assbot | The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVrflA ) | [13:38] |
| mircea_popescu | hey, maybe you two could get together! token black guy with token TV hitching it at 3rd conference'd be the tits. | [13:39] |
| nubbins` | mircea_popescu "Bitcoin es una forma de arte superior" | [13:40] |
| nubbins` | now you know how i ended up here ;p | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu | nubbins` i happen to agree, fwiwi. | [13:40] |
| mircea_popescu | ahahaha. so that makes three of us, like supermajority of those that got it ? | [13:40] |
| nubbins` | while i reserve the term "elegance" for things much, much simpler in execution than the flaming turdball of code, it completely applies to Bitcooin as a concept | [13:41] |
| mircea_popescu | well, let me put it this way : | [13:42] |
| mircea_popescu | you write a play, and this company wants to do it. they're an odd couple really, not much of a staging company. he's on three different mental meds, she's a crack whore. they make the scenery out of chewed up used tissue. | [13:43] |
| mircea_popescu | now, if your play manages to shine through all that and bring down the house | [13:43] |
| nubbins` | what a play it must be! | [13:43] |
| mircea_popescu | i'm calling it elegant. because fuck you, i'm a dragon and im out of words. | [13:43] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: it's rather reminiscent of the first h-bomb. the one that needed a dedicated building with h2 liquifaction cryoplant | [13:44] |
| nubbins` | no joke, in my cubicle life, the christmas social/dinner/dance was called (i'm really not making this up) an ELEGANZA. | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu | ahahaha. buncha octogenarian canadians! | [13:44] |
| ascii_field | it is interesting to contemplate what 'cold war' would have looked like if the portable variant had never been built | [13:44] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field yup | [13:44] |
| ascii_field | where h-bomb is either a fat ship or stationary on land | [13:44] |
| nubbins` | stationary ones much less useful as offensive weapons | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu | altho natural engineering has over software engineering this marked advantage, that the horse will throw you off, whereas epistula non erubescit. | [13:45] |
| ascii_field | nubbins`: not necessarily. can always build it in the enemy's capital, a bit at a time | [13:45] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field that only works in dreams. | [13:45] |
| nubbins` | worked for tiananmen square ;p | [13:45] |
| nubbins` | granted, that was a statue, not a compicated piece of machinery | [13:46] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: it works, sorta, if parts fit in diplo-pouches | [13:46] |
| nubbins` | lead-shielded diplo-pouches | [13:46] |
| ascii_field | (it is widely believed that us embassy in ru, and ru in us, contain nyookz) | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu | it's not a matter of, couldn't, physically, be done. it's a matter of couldn't socially be done. | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu | much the same reason vc idiots could do anything, choose to feed off our discarded tissue | [13:46] |
| mircea_popescu | (if anyone still wondered what the crab bus was a metaphor for) | [13:47] |
| ascii_field | what next, argue that dung beetle should eat fillet mignon? he does just fine with shit | [13:47] |
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| mircea_popescu | so do your people. | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu | which is why they're not doing this, or any other of a number of plans that start with | [13:47] |
| mircea_popescu | "first, you need X smart, determined people" | [13:47] |
| ascii_field | l0l | [13:48] |
| mircea_popescu | the smart are undetermined. the determined are busy playing football. | [13:48] |
| mircea_popescu | only so much bw in the neural stem. | [13:48] |
| nubbins` | http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/212/a/a/tardigrade_propaganda_4_by_theophontes-d598ubp.jpg | [13:48] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVtmWs ) | [13:48] |
| nubbins` | tardigrades make me feel funny | [13:48] |
| ascii_field | as al schwartz put it, 'don't invest if the conveyor has to be staffed with ph.d.'s' | [13:48] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89513 @ 0.00032515 = 29.1052 BTC [+] {2} | [13:50] |
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| nubbins` | http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1001206,00.html | [13:52] |
| assbot | Was Russia Hiding an Atom Bomb at Embassy in Washington? - TIME ... ( http://bit.ly/18xQPPJ ) | [13:52] |
| danielpbarron | !up Bagels7 | [13:52] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053934 almost htere. | [13:53] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 12:15:49; danielpbarron: height=280974 vs height=210695 | [13:53] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053939 << shut up it's handlasered. | [13:53] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 12:27:22; nubbins`: "rare" = dark-roasted robusta o.O | [13:53] |
| nubbins` | haha | [13:54] |
| nubbins` | don't even get me started on the fucking civet coffee | [13:54] |
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| nubbins` | (know what doesn't produce good coffee? force-feeding cherries to parasite-infested weasels) | [13:55] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053950 << seems to be working nao! | [13:55] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 12:51:56; davout: o a scoopbot | [13:55] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053968 << ahaha | [13:56] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 12:57:47; nubbins`: FWIW, alex winter and keanu reeves are precisely Bill & Ted (of Excellent Adventure fame) | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field : "Huge audience, mainstream production (Alex Winters directed and Keanu Reeves narrated) and the film was pro-Silk Road, anti-war on drugs, and pro-Ross Ulbricht" | [13:56] |
| ascii_field | wat. | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu | there you go. culture war : won. only took like 3-4 years, too. | [13:56] |
| ascii_field | 'won' is when enemy sits down on stake | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu | if anyone's not petrified in fear yet, it'd be because they're either innocent or an imbecile. | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu | culture war not buttsex war yo. | [13:57] |
| ascii_field | not 'made fun of half-heartedly in film' | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu | not what happened there by any stretch. | [13:57] |
| nubbins` | "mainstream production" | [14:01] |
| nubbins` | lel | [14:01] |
| nubbins` | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935664/#director | [14:01] |
| assbot | Alex Winter - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVw5iI ) | [14:01] |
| nubbins` | just look at all those things you've heard of | [14:01] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00032643 = 10.0704 BTC [+] | [14:06] |
| nubbins` | !up ascii_field | [14:09] |
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| nubbins` | ;;calc 60*30 | [14:09] |
| gribble | 1800 | [14:09] |
| nubbins` | ascii_field you're set for the day | [14:09] |
| nubbins` | or until my computer sleeps | [14:09] |
| ascii_field | ty nubbins`. | [14:10] |
| * | ascii_field finally caught up on log, even | [14:10] |
| nubbins` | log would make a worthy tome, if one were able to sieve it first | [14:10] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053996 << comes with bikini wax ? | [14:10] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 15:08:58; dignork: Adlai: oh, forgot a standard robe. | [14:10] |
| mircea_popescu | nubbins` prolly bitcoin code easier. | [14:10] |
| nubbins` | nod | [14:11] |
| nubbins` | none of it really makes sense w/o vexual, for example | [14:11] |
| nubbins` | XD | [14:11] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053999 << you'll prolly enjoy http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/eyeargon.pdf then | [14:12] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 15:13:00; *: Adlai can't find the exact quote but some literary pundit, when asked "but isn't it great that kids are reading [harry potter] instead of watching TV?" responded that he'd rather they watch tv than read such garbage | [14:12] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVyiLd ) | [14:12] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054006 << austerastimulity. | [14:12] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 15:31:30; PeterL: got a job offer today, pays 25% less than I was making before I got laid off :/ | [14:12] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: argon << ultra-famous | [14:12] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field only among a tiny group :) | [14:12] |
| ascii_field | author confessed shortly before died, iirc | [14:13] |
| nubbins` | mircea_popescu peterL i took a 90% pay cut in 2013 when switching careers 8) | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu | wasnt author like 17 at the time ? | [14:13] |
| ascii_field | sumthinglikethat | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu | nubbins` so did i, but a decade prior. | [14:13] |
| nubbins` | makes you fight, neh? | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu | of course pay was mostly hookers and blow anyway, best for health | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu | my bp took a 50% intima cut. | [14:13] |
| mircea_popescu | i, in all honesty and no exageration whatsoever, averaged 220-230/110 bp for about a decade. | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu | to the degree i had a heart specialist following me around. | [14:14] |
| ascii_field | like brezhnev, l0l | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu | what srsly ? | [14:15] |
| ascii_field | aha | [14:15] |
| ascii_field | but he was, what, 80 | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu | i did not know that. | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu | weird. wild. | [14:15] |
| ascii_field | the doctor-following-around part | [14:15] |
| ascii_field | no idea what his vital stats were | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu | oh | [14:15] |
| mircea_popescu | oddly enough it seems to have left no sechellae | [14:16] |
| ascii_field | mr o incidentally goes nowhere without ambulance, complete with blinkenlights | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu | ya but he's an idiot. | [14:16] |
| ascii_field | afaik - sop | [14:16] |
| ascii_field | gwb had one for sure | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu | also., | [14:16] |
| nubbins` | i thought that was because he couldn't stay away from the pretzels | [14:17] |
| mircea_popescu | who, brejnev ? | [14:17] |
| nubbins` | gwb | [14:17] |
| nubbins` | or, as he knew them, the dread PRETZELCOATL | [14:17] |
| mircea_popescu | ahahaha | [14:17] |
| nubbins` | feathered bread-monster of antiquity | [14:18] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway, im taking chetty out for sushi, ttyl. | [14:18] |
| nubbins` | remember: ceviche is only raw in name! | [14:18] |
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| funkenstein_ | http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/american-amoeba/ | [14:37] |
| assbot | American Amoeba | KUNSTLER ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVDoa4 ) | [14:37] |
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| thestringpuller | mod6: trap star just came on pandora. dat #tm101 | [15:14] |
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| mod6 | :] | [15:25] |
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| davout | justusranvier seems to a whole new level in derpitude | [15:43] |
| davout | http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33594885/ | [15:43] |
| assbot | Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMJ57s ) | [15:43] |
| trinque | davout: deedbot doesn't announce URLs yet, so... *ding!* http://deedbot.org/347883-1HkMQ2Zj1qwLtRLoMTugVpzYkBvQzjB9pj.txt | [15:44] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMJg2S ) | [15:44] |
| davout | trinque: gracias, pls to lemme know when it has a nice interface and rounded corners | [15:45] |
| trinque | soon as I find a moment for sanding | [15:45] |
| davout | does it also have a written procedure on how to verify deeds by hand? | [15:47] |
| davout | in other words, how do i access the bundle from a deed ? | [15:48] |
| davout | or was that URL a bundle and not just a deed? | [15:48] |
| trinque | that URL is a bundle | [15:49] |
| trinque | curl |
[15:49] |
| trinque | that's what I'm using as the private key to generate the address | [15:49] |
| davout | alrighty | [15:51] |
| davout | ty! | [15:51] |
| trinque | no problem | [15:52] |
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| davout | trinque: looks like it all works correctly | [16:08] |
| trinque | davout: cool! glad to get someone else's eyes on it | [16:09] |
| davout | trinque: what happens if the same deed is submitted mutliple times? | [16:17] |
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| davout | question mainly being: can some random derp take already notarized deeds, and clog the pipes with them, because i assume deedbot will listen privately to deeds being submitted, as long as they're signed with a proper key amirite | [16:22] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57300 @ 0.00031597 = 18.1051 BTC [-] {2} | [16:23] |
| danielpbarron | !up Uglux | [16:23] |
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| trinque | davout: it will only eat deeds signed by assbot's L1 or L2 | [16:24] |
| trinque | does not currently do anything to prevent the same signed messages from being submitted twice | [16:25] |
| trinque | imo might be best to just handle that with negrating abusers | [16:25] |
| Adlai | does it only accept deeds from authed members of L1/2 ? | [16:25] |
| trinque | hmmm... actually you guys have a point | [16:27] |
| Adlai | replay attacks would still be possible, but by limiting submissions to authed L<3, you at least have somebody to punish | [16:27] |
| trinque | this is why I've been running publish manually and seeing what people have added | [16:27] |
| Adlai | that's no way to run an automated system :P | [16:28] |
| davout | Adlai: you don't really want to depend on the submitter being authed i'd say | [16:28] |
| Adlai | you could also just drop duplicates | [16:28] |
| trinque | I could just turn off the PM support | [16:28] |
| trinque | and require all interaction be done here | [16:28] |
| Adlai | that has the advantage of accelerating shared learning | [16:28] |
| davout | turning off pm support would be the simplest way | [16:29] |
| trinque | Adlai | that's no way to run an automated system :P << that's how I *start* running any automated system I make | [16:29] |
| * | Adlai originally wrote 'no way to build', then choose 'run' intentionally | [16:30] |
| trinque | well, when you guys start paying me for this, I'll feel worse about it | [16:30] |
| davout | for every automatic thing, there's a computer doing it manually :D | [16:30] |
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| Adlai | and Cyberdyne Systems are justa buncha freedom fighters | [16:34] |
| * | Adlai ... is part of 'you guys'? :o | [16:34] |
| Adlai | last i checked, i'm the guy saying that the way mircea_popescu specified deedbot is silly | [16:35] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61600 @ 0.00031604 = 19.4681 BTC [+] {3} | [16:38] |
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| danielpbarron | https://twitter.com/trollaxor/status/577547355282632704 | [16:43] |
| assbot | you can't trust segregated institutions. /hashtag/racism?src=hash /hashtag/sexism?src=hash /hashtag/feminism?src=hash /hashtag/homophobia?src=hash /hashtag/blacklivesmatter?src=hash /hashtag/openbsd?src=hash | [16:43] |
| trinque | was going to ask Adlai why he thought so, but.. vanished! | [16:44] |
| trinque | danielpbarron: openbsd lol? | [16:45] |
| danielpbarron | lol. | [16:45] |
| trinque | is that a markov tweetbot? | [16:45] |
| trinque | apparantly not | [16:45] |
| danielpbarron | found it from those articles bingo linked me to yesterday | [16:48] |
| danielpbarron | the guy apparently liked OpenBSD until he learned about Theo | [16:49] |
| danielpbarron | he almost donated 100k USD to OpenBSD and gave it to freebsd instead | [16:50] |
| danielpbarron | because "social equality" is more important than computer security or something | [16:50] |
| trinque | having an opinionated ass at the top is a feature | [16:50] |
| danielpbarron | tried to get him to explain his position in here, but even IRC is on his hate list for being too old | [16:51] |
| trinque | may I live to see all these valley fuckheads impoverished | [16:51] |
| trinque | http://www.trollaxor.com/2015/02/openbsd-fact-check-use-or-not-use-test.html << what the fuck are these slides | [16:53] |
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| assbot | trollaxor.com: OPENBSD FACT CHECK: USE OR NOT USE TEST ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ax3tFY ) | [16:53] |
| trinque | the guy is illiterate | [16:53] |
| trinque | I guess he's trying to be cute? | [16:53] |
| trinque | scares me the kind of poorly tuned brains running around with fat stacks of USD | [16:54] |
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| danielpbarron | !up ascii_field | [16:54] |
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| danielpbarron | trinque, he didn't earn it; some uncle died and left it to him for the purpose of funding open source | [16:55] |
| trinque | oh god | [16:55] |
| ascii_field | may I live to see all these valley fuckheads impoverished << optimist. i expect to have my skull used by them as ashtray, rather than vice-versa | [16:55] |
| mats | high drama | [16:56] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50724 @ 0.00032479 = 16.4746 BTC [+] | [16:59] |
| ascii_field | possibly i ought to explain. point being that folks are vastly underestimating strength of the enemy | [17:04] |
| ascii_field | yes, '...the ogre cannot master speech' - but it's an ogre - a bloodthirsty giant | [17:05] |
| ascii_field | a still largely-intact giant, still walking around and smashing things | [17:05] |
| ascii_field | and on his shoulders armies of demented midgets ride | [17:05] |
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| trinque | ascii_field: from a perspective it's entirely irrational to have any hope at all; after all, one dies at the end. | [17:08] |
| trinque | not being flippant, it's a fact | [17:08] |
| ascii_field | trinque: the hope can only be about outliving the enemy | [17:08] |
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| trinque | given that, ogre or no, my mind will still hum battle songs of an army that does not yet exist | [17:09] |
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| ascii_field | because "social equality" is more important than computer security or something << reminds, of course, of: | [17:17] |
| ascii_field | !s stotting | [17:17] |
| assbot | 11 results for 'stotting' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=stotting | [17:17] |
| ascii_field | (which in my own mental habit i usually think of as 'peacocking', because it is an even more obvious animal to illustrate the concept with) | [17:18] |
| ascii_field | or mircea_popescu's 'sprezzatura' - for that matter | [17:19] |
| ascii_field | sorta wonder, i confess, if sprezzatura/stotting makes its appearance in overcrowded worlds 'that have no frontiers' | [17:21] |
| ascii_field | as in, picture a town with no decent place to have a footrace (too many hills? swamp? use imagination) | [17:21] |
| ascii_field | so instead of actually racing, folks start to show off their strength by competing who can walk normally for the longest time with a knapsack full of crap | [17:22] |
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| danielpbarron | !up ascii_field | [17:25] |
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| danielpbarron | so apparently the weak point in the old iMacs was the hard drive | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron | two out of two i've looked at have bad disks; one doesn't think it even has a hard drive anymore | [17:27] |
| ascii_field | when buying old machine 1) backup bitwise 2) ssd | [17:28] |
| ascii_field | ( 1) is for boxes that need the vendor's turdware, naturally. can skip if not. ) | [17:29] |
| danielpbarron | i'm just now realizing that one looks tampered with -- the hard drive might have been removed by previous owner | [17:30] |
| danielpbarron | other than that they appear to work fine. xfce on openbsd is a nice fit with the apple style | [17:31] |
| davout | danielpbarron: iirc imacs have special disks with apple-specific temperature sensors or w/e | [17:33] |
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| davout | if you replace the stock one it'll keep the fan running thinking it's over heating | [17:34] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00031847 = 4.1242 BTC [-] | [17:36] |
| trinque | ascii_field | as in, picture a town with no decent place to have a footrace << starving for a real challenge; I think so | [17:36] |
| trinque | and mostly without knowing they are | [17:36] |
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| trinque | yeah that's interesting; it's a sort of degenerate state of a very healthy urge to have a pissing match | [17:40] |
| ascii_field | trinque: see old book, 'the human zoo', for a more complete version of this hypothesis | [17:40] |
| ascii_field | (d. morris) | [17:40] |
| trinque | ascii_field: found, ty | [17:41] |
| trinque | reminds me that the mongols had a slur to refer to city-dwellers | [17:41] |
| trinque | saw them as livestock | [17:41] |
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| mircea_popescu | not mine by any means. the duke of este's. | [17:44] |
| ascii_field | well yeah | [17:44] |
| ascii_field | but described in recent mircea_popescu article | [17:44] |
| mircea_popescu | :p | [17:44] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19426 @ 0.00032479 = 6.3094 BTC [+] | [17:44] |
| mircea_popescu | funkenstein_ so, i got logs ? | [17:44] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.01001 = 1.1812 BTC [-] {2} | [17:45] |
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| thestringpuller | ascii_field: we are all meat puppets | [17:46] |
| thestringpuller | no one pulls their own strings | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054191 << yeah the blocks list as discussed!!11 | [17:46] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 18:41:11; trinque: soon as I find a moment for sanding | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054210 << doens't really need any handling past that imo. | [17:48] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:20:51; trinque: imo might be best to just handle that with negrating abusers | [17:48] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054205 << nope. listens in here. | [17:49] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:18:07; davout: question mainly being: can some random derp take already notarized deeds, and clog the pipes with them, because i assume deedbot will listen privately to deeds being submitted, as long as they're signed with a proper key amirite | [17:49] |
| mircea_popescu | there's no "private notarization" | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054217 << he doesn't have teh authority to do that, tho. | [17:50] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:23:51; Adlai: you could also just drop duplicates | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054222 << happens to be the exactly only correct way to run automated systems at first. | [17:51] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:25:02; trinque: Adlai | that's no way to run an automated system :P << that's how I *start* running any automated system I make | [17:51] |
| funkenstein_ | mircea_popescu, big stack of logs for you. I keep them dry until you tell me where you want them. | [17:51] |
| mircea_popescu | splendid. specifically, what is it, 300k ? | [17:51] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054231 << nonsense. trust is not something that can be derived programatically. whether a guy is black or not, whether an institution is segregated or not has no impact on whether you can trust them. | [17:53] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:38:54; assbot: you can't trust segregated institutions. /hashtag/racism?src=hash /hashtag/sexism?src=hash /hashtag/feminism?src=hash /hashtag/homophobia?src=hash /hashtag/blacklivesmatter?src=hash /hashtag/openbsd?src=hash | [17:53] |
| funkenstein_ | and 300300.3003003 | [17:53] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054239 << "almost donated" ? cool lol. | [17:53] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:45:29; danielpbarron: he almost donated 100k USD to OpenBSD and gave it to freebsd instead | [17:53] |
| mircea_popescu | funkenstein_ cool. curious what comes of this. | [17:54] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60263 @ 0.00032518 = 19.5963 BTC [+] {2} | [17:54] |
| funkenstein_ | me too :) 100k blocks reached today, reward is 10 LOG per block | [17:55] |
| mircea_popescu | speaking of wood, http://40.media.tumblr.com/f89886e82be5610fa7df59542fb8357d/tumblr_n193b8VAKq1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg | [17:55] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkaRix ) | [17:55] |
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| mircea_popescu | funkenstein_ you probably should get those various links fixed. | [17:57] |
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| funkenstein_ | in woodcoin documentation stuff? | [18:00] |
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| funkenstein_ | maybe i should make a real website | [18:02] |
| mircea_popescu | http://thirstforfire.com/ stuff | [18:02] |
| assbot | Index of / ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lkc3SX ) | [18:02] |
| mircea_popescu | was another one also linked there | [18:02] |
| funkenstein_ | taking links down, thanks | [18:03] |
| funkenstein_ | not my stuff there | [18:04] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054242 << actually, being in a venue where "the medium is the message" is absolutely required for someone who has no message past being part of the median. | [18:04] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:47:05; danielpbarron: tried to get him to explain his position in here, but even IRC is on his hate list for being too old | [18:04] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57500 @ 0.00032643 = 18.7697 BTC [+] | [18:04] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054252 << yes, but then again you're not a sadist, you're a masochist. | [18:05] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 19:51:07; ascii_field: may I live to see all these valley fuckheads impoverished << optimist. i expect to have my skull used by them as ashtray, rather than vice-versa | [18:05] |
| mircea_popescu | so you're just being optimistic in your own way :D | [18:05] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054269 << essentially yes. it's a result of social dislocation at the top brought about by sudden technological advance that's poorly digested. | [18:08] |
| assbot | Logged on 16-03-2015 20:16:50; ascii_field: sorta wonder, i confess, if sprezzatura/stotting makes its appearance in overcrowded worlds 'that have no frontiers' | [18:08] |
| mircea_popescu | !up ascii_field | [18:09] |
| -assbot- | You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. | [18:09] |
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| mircea_popescu | i wonder how many times alf's been impersonated as ascii_field so far | [18:09] |
| ascii_field | 'masochist: whip me, whip me! sadist: no...' | [18:10] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: impersonated... << the real one will presumably say something. ergo impostor, if impostor, is doing precisely what real one wishes. | [18:10] |
| mircea_popescu | hehe | [18:10] |
| mircea_popescu | so i'm going to rewrite tlp's short story with the druggie in a moment. | [18:12] |
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| BingoBoingo | danielpbarron> trinque, he didn't earn it; some uncle died and left it to him for the purpose of funding open source << When someone seems this committed to a troll job you can't take them at face value | [18:19] |
| funkenstein_ | old fiat misallocated? stop the press | [18:25] |
| funkenstein_ | sometimes you have to celebrate if anybody at all gets to spend it | [18:27] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00032643 = 19.3899 BTC [+] | [18:34] |
| BingoBoingo | ;;ticker | [18:35] |
| gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 291.03, Best ask: 291.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 291.07, 24 hour volume: 23083.07900202, 24 hour low: 285.7, 24 hour high: 295.2, 24 hour vwap: None | [18:35] |
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| scoopbot | New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/australian-drug-trafficker-sentenced-to-12-years-prison/ | [18:47] |
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| scoopbot | New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/coinbase-compliance-chief-resigns/ | [19:03] |
| BingoBoingo | http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33602678/ << Look who'd citing qntra nao | [19:04] |
| assbot | Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqOOeP ) | [19:04] |
| mircea_popescu | btw, i finally found the source of that debate we had earlier as to how powerful a chimp is etc. | [19:08] |
| mircea_popescu | you see, when i see chimp i think of bonobos. which... whatever, you could eat one raw. | [19:08] |
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| mircea_popescu | you good folk apparently think of the robust chimp, the OTHER species of pan | [19:08] |
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| BingoBoingo | Oh, so you associated chimp with the harmless species that just lez's out all the time. | [19:10] |
| mircea_popescu | basically. | [19:13] |
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| mircea_popescu | would have never probably happened if phys antrhopologist person didn't read and go "dude, that's the other one!" | [19:13] |
| mircea_popescu | "what other one?!" | [19:13] |
| mircea_popescu | "you know, the one that's like a gorilla" | [19:14] |
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| Adlai | ;;google dance monkeys dance | [19:16] |
| gribble | Dance, Monkeys, Dance - Ernest Cline: |
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| cazalla | i swear if and when bitcoin hits astronomical heights, imma start the chimp ufc | [19:31] |
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| scoopbot | New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/a-trip-you-may-have-taken-redux/ | [20:29] |
| mircea_popescu | !up mogreen | [20:30] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00032055 = 20.996 BTC [+] {2} | [20:36] |
| asciilifeform | http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33602678 << big moment in the history of that particular set of idiots. they will putter around with 'remote attestation' crap and will end with an inevitable 'most of the nodes are not True Nodes, a True Node is this here sealed crate from us, just plug it in' | [20:49] |
| assbot | Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/18zm0Kh ) | [20:49] |
| funkenstein_ | what do you think of Sergio's idea is that really possible? | [20:51] |
| asciilifeform | is it just me or is it hilariously funny that folks working with (or pretending to, whatever) with bitcoin - the only thing that ever solved 'sybil problem' -for the one case for which it is solvable- -- is spewing this kind of nonsense ? | [20:51] |
| asciilifeform | funkenstein_: anything involving hard time-bounds on a packet-switched net is lunacy | [20:51] |
| asciilifeform | funkenstein_: the real purpose of this 'proposal', if it has a purpose, is 'let's keep thinking about how to kill nodes not controlled by Phoundation' | [20:52] |
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| funkenstein_ | hmm my instinct was it didn't seem possible | [20:52] |
| funkenstein_ | he posts a ton of extremely ambitious ideas i'd love to see him come through on one of them | [20:53] |
| asciilifeform | funkenstein_: have to understand that what comes out of these people makes considerably more sense once you understand what the one and only 'problem' they ever try to 'solve' really is. | [20:53] |
| asciilifeform | (to be fair, there are actually two of them. one is -- distracting actual people from actual work with the noise.) | [20:54] |
| funkenstein_ | guess they got us then :) | [20:56] |
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| funkenstein_ | i think you have a point. seems like a really good abstract thinker but sometimes you want a dumb network | [21:01] |
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| decimation | asciilifeform: have you read some of the research under the heading "delay tolerant networking" | [21:07] |
| BingoBoingo | http://www.openbsd.org/papers/httpd-slides-asiabsdcon2015.pdf | [21:08] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/18zpwoe ) | [21:08] |
| decimation | nasa et.al. spend money on usg think tanks to try to come up with a protocol that will magically switch between store-and-forward and low-latency as the channel permits | [21:08] |
| mircea_popescu | !up Asenath | [21:08] |
| -assbot- | You voiced Asenath for 30 minutes. | [21:08] |
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| mircea_popescu | jurov on it | [21:08] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform forced mistakes are forced and mistaken. | [21:09] |
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| mircea_popescu | there's no substance to it past getting you to say that, just like there's no substance past oprah's skin color past getting black people to buy shit. | [21:10] |
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| decimation | http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~augustin/pub/chaintreau08opportunistic.pdf < interestingly, 'gossip-based' has become a buzzword in some of this network research | [21:13] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/95953789878/chapter-2-in-which-i-remember-why-i-hated-this << ahahaha is it this fucking bad ?! | [21:43] |
| assbot | Wading In — Chapter 2, in which I remember why I hated this ... ( http://bit.ly/1x9Iuxj ) | [21:43] |
| mircea_popescu | "You turned into a cat! A SMALL cat! You violated Conservation of Energy! That’s not just an arbitrary rule, it’s implied by the form of the quantum Hamiltonian! Rejecting it destroys unitarity and then you get FTL signalling!” | [21:43] |
| mircea_popescu | this is a better meme than fu im a dragon. | [21:44] |
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| mircea_popescu | "I read the comments on an HPMOR chapter, which I recommend strongly against. I wish I could talk to several of the commentators, and gently talk them out of a poor financial decision. | [21:47] |
| mircea_popescu | Poor, misguided random internet person- your donation to MIRI/LessWrong will not help save the world. Even if you grant all their (rather silly) assumptions MIRI is a horribly unproductive research institute- in more than a decade, it has published fewer peer reviewed papers than the average physics graduate student does while in grad school." | [21:47] |
| mircea_popescu | aww. | [21:47] |
| BingoBoingo | The woodchipper fanfic was better | [21:58] |
| mircea_popescu | i am slowly and unpleasantly realising that there will be no end of these ignare cvasi-intellectuals. | [22:00] |
| mircea_popescu | every year shall bring more yarvin, yakudsky, yaranidiot. | [22:00] |
| mircea_popescu | i suppose it's unavoidable given an "educational system" that fails to teach anything but manages to impart absurd delusions of self worth and power, and completely destructured personal social relations. | [22:01] |
| mircea_popescu | nevertheless... good god, i need more hemlock. | [22:02] |
| BingoBoingo | !b 3 | [22:02] |
| assbot | Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3XHPQH3.txt ) | [22:02] |
| mircea_popescu | where the fuck are the people holding up signs with "you are stupid" to raise awareness ? | [22:04] |
| mircea_popescu | that's a topic that desperately needs awareness, the bezzle's nothing compared to the igzzle. | [22:04] |
| mircea_popescu | if you add all the money people think they're worth, and divide by all the value that actually exists, you only get a few degrees of magnitude out of the process. | [22:04] |
| mircea_popescu | however, if you add all the smarts people assign themselves and divide by the ... like i dunno, 5000 or so total iq points available for the bn or so english speakers, you roughly get infinity. | [22:05] |
| mircea_popescu | and THAT is sure as fuck not implied by the form of any part of any "hamiltonian", w r hamilton's reproductive organs included. | [22:06] |
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| funkenstein_ | fractional reserver brain power. just getting it. | [22:24] |
| * | funkenstein_ slow as fuck | [22:24] |
| mircea_popescu | exactly what it is. backed by nothing but the full faith and credit of the usg, in the shape of little bits of paper issued by Department of Harvard, The Stanford Agency scl etc. | [22:27] |
| mircea_popescu | and this schmuck didn't even go to school! | [22:27] |
| funkenstein_ | the paper belt | [22:27] |
| mircea_popescu | it's so fucking pervasive by now, they can extract it by simple aculturation. | [22:28] |
| funkenstein_ | the academic bullshit goes way back | [22:28] |
| mircea_popescu | never before have i realised the wisdom of the jews / early christians in keeping the books under key. | [22:29] |
| funkenstein_ | ? | [22:30] |
| funkenstein_ | just to make more of a challenge for us? | [22:32] |
| mircea_popescu | no, but because acquiring a monkey-ish familiarity with material is a trivial task, which will then prevent an ambitious and inexperienced actor from actually learning anything. | [22:32] |
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| funkenstein_ | hmm.. more likely they were just the same kind of people who enjoy their power as academics today | [22:35] |
| mircea_popescu | the same insane behaviour exhibited by "bitcoin entrepreneurs" as summed up in http://trilema.com/2015/who-made-this/ is what drives ykwhatever to falsely believe he has understood something about statistics / has anything meaningful to say | [22:35] |
| assbot | Who made this ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EWZgSB ) | [22:35] |
| mircea_popescu | "about science" | [22:35] |
| mircea_popescu | of course this argument falls apart once one considers that - according to various muppets cca 1900, "physics was a closed science", so by the logic above proposed everyone should be kept from nature itself as they muck it up. | [22:36] |
| thestringpuller | dr. funkenstein straight from george clinton's mothership | [22:36] |
| mircea_popescu | but still, hot damn, semidoctus is becoming a byword for homo interneticus. | [22:37] |
| funkenstein_ | the bigger the headache the bigger the pill | [22:37] |
| funkenstein_ | you give us a chance we will get it wrong. that's why it is so important to have those stupid signs up you mentioned. | [22:38] |
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| funkenstein_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1s1DOUNA-g | [22:44] |
| assbot | PEAK DUMB - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1ErOelH ) | [22:44] |
| thestringpuller | re: who made this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0g_85WTGIM "How did you get this show?" "Carrot Top turned it down." | [22:45] |
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| mircea_popescu | lol | [22:51] |
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| * | asciilifeform would point out that 'turned into small cat' does not have to violate conservation laws if cat is peculiarly dense, or if the excess mass had been teleported a room away (which in itself does not have to violate conservation) -- but this is probably not what the thing was about | [23:20] |
| mircea_popescu | actually the cat doesn't even have to be dense per se, it could just be very hot. | [23:21] |
| mircea_popescu | or... spinning real fast. | [23:22] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: every year shall bring more.. << give the charlatans some credit here. yudkowsky, for instance, carefully disassembled the broken husk of christianity and soldered all the loose pieces together in a way that it sorta runs again for folks on the right half of bell curve | [23:22] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i have little to no evidence of this. all i see is the text, and the text is truely appalling. | [23:23] |
| mircea_popescu | yes, maybe he writes like an idiot on purpose. | [23:23] |
| asciilifeform | he convinced folks with some education in the physical sciences, even to believe in immortality ('ancestor sims', 'nanotech'); deities ('jupiter brains', 'superintelligence') and even immortal soul ('coherent extrapolated volition') | [23:23] |
| asciilifeform | he writes 'down' to the audience | [23:23] |
| asciilifeform | to reel people in | [23:24] |
| mircea_popescu | it seems improbable, much like crack whores are rarely sober actresses practicing. | [23:24] |
| asciilifeform | the man knows precisely what he's doing | [23:24] |
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| mircea_popescu | listen, a large crowd of bearded idiots following the child prophet is no proof of the child's anything. | [23:24] |
| asciilifeform | in fact, he is so confident that he's been known to accept public debate. might even show up here if somebody really wants. | [23:24] |
| mircea_popescu | it's just proof that people are endlessly stupid on their own terms. | [23:24] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: not going by the crowd, but by having actually read everything the fella wrote 1997-2009 or so | [23:25] |
| mircea_popescu | debate as to what ? there's no point of contention. | [23:25] |
| asciilifeform | the only point i can see in contention is whether mr y 'drinks own kool-aid' or not | [23:25] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform are you saying he's just a very inept writer of [fan]fiction ? | [23:25] |
| mircea_popescu | lol that'd be a debate. which side is he to take ? | [23:25] |
| asciilifeform | possibly the 'has' ? | [23:26] |
| asciilifeform | (it would be interesting if not!) | [23:26] |
| asciilifeform | the fanfic thing is one of the pieces i have -not- read. | [23:26] |
| mircea_popescu | ah. | [23:26] |
| asciilifeform | so cannot comment usefully. | [23:26] |
| mircea_popescu | it's... bad. it's bad in a literary sense, and it's arguably worse in a science sense. | [23:26] |
| mircea_popescu | one could read treatises on learned topics written by anonymous americans cca 1800 to about the same effect. | [23:27] |
| mircea_popescu | heavy on the sauce, no real meat to speak of. | [23:27] |
| asciilifeform | mr y seems quite clever so long as he has the sense to stay away from actual mechanisms and physical world in general where if 'your hands grow from your arse' you tend to lose them in the gears. | [23:27] |
| asciilifeform | story time: | [23:28] |
| asciilifeform | mr y had... a programming language! cooked up in his days of being a self-important kid with just a few dozen cult followers | [23:28] |
| mircea_popescu | did it have submarines ? | [23:28] |
| asciilifeform | it was rather like a bad ('70s-style) lispalike with xml (yes, xml) for all forms | [23:28] |
| asciilifeform | for all expressions, rather | [23:28] |
| asciilifeform | xml in place of sexprs. | [23:29] |
| asciilifeform | thing was called 'flare' | [23:29] |
| mircea_popescu | i guess... | [23:29] |
| asciilifeform | and you will not see any of his groupies mention it. ever. | [23:29] |
| asciilifeform | (did i mention his 'human-equivalent ai' was to be written in it? this is, of course, before he pronounced fatwa on anyone contemplating such a thing) | [23:29] |
| mircea_popescu | lol you know the portrait that emerges is exactly that of the sort of kid i'd bust the nose of within a coupla days of being introduced ? | [23:30] |
| asciilifeform | the thing he's very good at is plagiarism | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu | http://flarelang.sourceforge.net/ < this thing ? | [23:30] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWkWz5 ) | [23:30] |
| asciilifeform | and ends up seeming quite clever by lifting various ideas and 'explaining' | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu | it just sounds like, where's that 2nd hand source brb | [23:30] |
| asciilifeform | ;;google detached lever fallacy | [23:31] |
| gribble | Detached Lever Fallacy - Less Wrong: |
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| asciilifeform | ^ example | [23:31] |
| mircea_popescu | "I’m too smart, Professor. I’ve got nothing to say to normal children. Adults don’t respect me enough to really talk to me. And frankly, even if they did, they wouldn’t sound as smart as Richard Feynman, so I might as well read something Richard Feynman wrote instead. I’m isolated, Professor McGonagall. I’ve been isolated my whole life. Maybe that has some of the same effects as being locked in a cellar. An | [23:31] |
| mircea_popescu | d I’m too intelligent to look up to my parents the way that children are designed to do. My parents love me, but they don’t feel obliged to respond to reason, and sometimes I feel like they’re the children - children who won’t listen and have absolute authority over my whole existence. I try not to be too bitter about it, but I also try to be honest with myself, so, yes, I’m bitter. | [23:31] |
| mircea_popescu | then merge that with the "i failed and so nobody else should try it!" reversal of the "i tried and thus no one should criticize me" insanity... | [23:31] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform you know that's an age honored thing in usia. which is why all the brouhaha over "intelle;ctual property" and "bla bla theft" is so funny for people who aren't either born yesterday or to stupid parents in the great plains. srsly, someone stole from murica ? what, christmas ? | [23:32] |
| asciilifeform | 'always it is the thief who cries - stop, thief!' or how did it go | [23:33] |
| mircea_popescu | that's what ted is, but it didn't start there. that's what http://trilema.com/2014/anonymous-derpage/ is and what mormonism is and puritanism and the us army and generally... | [23:33] |
| assbot | Anonymous derpage pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWllkX ) | [23:33] |
| mircea_popescu | it's all lifted. | [23:33] |
| mircea_popescu | or as that romanian dude put it, "hai c-am furat un negativ" | [23:33] |
| asciilifeform | in all fairness, how could it be anything else? not being a historic culture and all | [23:34] |
| mircea_popescu | nothing wrong with it, as a process, but the acultural approach to it... o brother. | [23:34] |
| mircea_popescu | right, that's what i;m saying. obviously cunt gets pounded. but all the pretense around it ? y ? | [23:34] |
| mircea_popescu | "Jumping off the | [23:35] |
| mircea_popescu | extensibility of XML, | [23:35] |
| mircea_popescu | the flexibility of the underlying | [23:35] |
| mircea_popescu | representation enables Flare to do | [23:35] |
| mircea_popescu | several fundamental things in | [23:35] |
| mircea_popescu | fundamentally different ways." | [23:35] |
| mircea_popescu | ^ check it out, it allowed them to mix text with display rules, because xml. | [23:35] |
| asciilifeform | obligatory naggumism: ''It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.'' | [23:36] |
| mircea_popescu | Flare.org domain donated courtesy of ePoet.com | [23:36] |
| mircea_popescu | o.O | [23:36] |
| mircea_popescu | "Flare is based on XML. In dialects of LISP, both the program and the program data are represented as lists. In Flare, the program and program data, and ideally the program state, are all represented as well-formed XML. Because XML is annotative (additional sub-elements can be easily added to any parent element without destroying the structural integrity of existing data) and extensible (new sub-element types can be | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu | easily created), these properties are shared by Flare objects and Flare programs." | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu | this just broke my head. seriously ?! | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu | in what complang is it the case that you can't add stuff to code ?! | [23:38] |
| asciilifeform | ^ the stuck-capslock 'LISP' is an almost foolproof leper's bell of folks whose knowledge of the subject comes from 1970s encyclopaedia article | [23:38] |
| asciilifeform | (no one who actually programs in any lisplike thing whatsoever, will ever write it out that way - the fingers simply won't do it) | [23:39] |
| mircea_popescu | how old was he when doing this flare thing ? | [23:39] |
| mircea_popescu | If the Flare interpreter knows that "human" is a class defined in the module "people", then it knows to expect that the tag "arms" refers to an instance member with numeric content. This is how the Flare interpreter knows that 2 means the number 2 and not the string "2". | [23:39] |
| mircea_popescu | ^ almost as painful to read as his fiction. | [23:40] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: in the parlance of folks who actually program computers on occasion - 'blocks of code are a first-class object' is the claim. which is true for all lisp-family | [23:40] |
| mircea_popescu | is the above quote included in your "read all" ? | [23:40] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36213 @ 0.00032207 = 11.6631 BTC [+] {2} | [23:40] |
| asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: last i saw this crap, it was a series of forum posts... | [23:40] |
| * | asciilifeform out of the loop for a good long spell | [23:40] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform but the language is the message, here. guy's not writing down to anyone but himself. | [23:40] |
| asciilifeform | i don't even know that this brochure was crapped out by mr y himself | [23:41] |
| mircea_popescu | "Not written by Dmitriy Myshkin." | [23:41] |
| mircea_popescu | in any case, .ro space has a coupla of these, "artists" that wish to be philosophers/scientists. the result is endless lol fountain. | [23:41] |
| asciilifeform | in the spirit of mrs. ceausescu ? | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu | nah, in the spirit of mr pecuchet | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu | ceausescu was a shoemaker. | [23:42] |
| asciilifeform | thinking of the woman | [23:44] |
| mircea_popescu | ah. she was a common whore. | [23:44] |
| mircea_popescu | unlike argentina's, she wasn't pretty, either | [23:44] |
| mircea_popescu | (tho i don't find evita peron pretty, but hey) | [23:44] |
| asciilifeform | whore who walked around collecting 'honorary diplomas' in chemistry | [23:44] |
| mircea_popescu | point being, artist. | [23:44] |
| asciilifeform | while actual chemists cringed, bit tongues | [23:45] |
| mircea_popescu | i dunno if you know this sort - often comes out at the beach. tall, good looking kid, not a jock, has learned some poetry and gazes into the distance a lot. | [23:45] |
| mircea_popescu | sorta emo-precursor. | [23:45] |
| decimation | re: education < http://www.wired.com/2015/02/silicon-valley-home-schooling/ < apparently Thiel et.al. were educated in a Montessori school (which was a crazy idea invented by a random italian chick) to let kids decide for themselves "how to be schooled" | [23:45] |
| assbot | The Techies Who Are Hacking Education by Homeschooling Their Kids | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWn4qs ) | [23:45] |
| mircea_popescu | very successful with a certain age range, mostly because well... the gals are itching for a trashing, but also kinda affraid it may hurt. | [23:45] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: iirc 'montessori' is done to very young, elementary grade pupils only | [23:46] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah, it's extended kindergarten | [23:46] |
| mircea_popescu | (dunno about yer lands, but that's exactly how kindergarten was done when i was 5ish) | [23:46] |
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| decimation | heh no they do high school now | [23:47] |
| mircea_popescu | nuts. | [23:47] |
| mircea_popescu | ok alf, I got it. here it is : | [23:48] |
| mircea_popescu | This whole conversation feels ham fisted, Hariezer is consistently telling us about all the manipulative tricks they are both using. Its less a conversation and more people who just sat through a shitty marketing seminar trying to try out what they learned. WITH RAPE. | [23:48] |
| mircea_popescu | [...] | [23:48] |
| mircea_popescu | I’m not sure why you’d use persuasion/marketing as a shiny metaphor for science, other than its the theme of this chapter. ”If you know science you can manipulate people as if you were literally in control of them” seems like a broad, and mostly untrue claim. | [23:48] |
| decimation | exampe > http://www.schoolofthewoods.org/ | [23:48] |
| assbot | School of the Woods - Montessori - Established 1962 - preK thru 12 Education ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWnptc ) | [23:48] |
| mircea_popescu | so your theory'd be, fitting with the above, that this is what they called a "sensitive child" who is trying to assuage his existential vertigo by "taming" [pseudo]science to play the role of a sort of marketing ? | [23:49] |
| asciilifeform | approximately. | [23:49] |
| mircea_popescu | reads to me more like a cry for help. | [23:50] |
| mircea_popescu | "mommy look how fucking stupid i'm being, help me!" | [23:50] |
| asciilifeform | whatever it was a cry for, it werked - mr y has a rotating harem, a flat in san fran, and a phoundation to invoice for the lot - and i don't | [23:51] |
| asciilifeform | so yes, i l0l, but sc4mz0r sp4mz like a pr0 | [23:51] |
| mircea_popescu | what's a rotating harem ? | [23:52] |
| asciilifeform | the kind mircea_popescu has | [23:53] |
| mircea_popescu | wait. wut ? | [23:53] |
| asciilifeform | where younger gurlz rotated in, etc | [23:53] |
| * | asciilifeform not sure of the correct term of art | [23:53] |
| mircea_popescu | you're basically saying he's having a lot of sex ? | [23:53] |
| asciilifeform | sex he doesn't have to go shopping for | [23:53] |
| * | asciilifeform again not sure of the term of art | [23:53] |
| mircea_popescu | might be "dating" | [23:54] |
| decimation | re: "intelle;ctual property" < I spoke with a patent examiner once, she said that she often was 'paid a visit' by pharma/medical people who were under the mistaken impression that their devices were still under patent | [23:54] |
| decimation | when it had long ago expired | [23:54] |
| asciilifeform | wai wat | [23:55] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i'm tryin' to follow! | [23:55] |
| asciilifeform | (no one remotely connected with the filing of an american patent is under any doubt whatsoever regarding expiration thereof) | [23:56] |
| mircea_popescu | "I enjoy speaking at financial firms on human rationality." << there, your mystery's solved. he's doing the entertainment for vc teambuilding events. | [23:56] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: she said they would have long conversations where they were apparently mistaken about this | [23:56] |
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| mircea_popescu | so is, for instance, her : http://40.media.tumblr.com/fc9005c0f6ad1619a382f70c2796027e/tumblr_msbf0u15E61rmm9buo1_500.jpg | [23:58] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWoQYC ) | [23:58] |
| decimation | mircea_popescu: snake-oil sales for 'business seminars' is quite big business | [23:58] |
| asciilifeform | if he does this, it is to rope in chumpz for his phoundation | [23:58] |
| mircea_popescu | well... you gotta put something up, you know ? gavin can't run to all of them in his satoshi costume | [23:59] |
| asciilifeform | and - it works | [23:59] |
| mircea_popescu | and out and out nudity is more of a terrorism&money laundering trope than anything | [23:59] |
| asciilifeform | (-somebody- is paying his bills) | [23:59] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform he could say the same about you. | [23:59] |
| asciilifeform | exactly the same | [23:59] |
| decimation | re: mr y. < are you sure it's gurlz instead of boyz? | [23:59] |
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