Forum logs for 16 Aug 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform 'The laziness I witnessed just from her was shocking. One of the homes we rented was so disgustingly filthy when we arrived. My immediate response was to get to it and clean. The appliances were brown and greasy and under them was even worse. I began to move furniture and wash the floors, clean washrooms etc. and scrubbing film off the floors and tiles while she was spread out on the couch watching movies. I was furious about [00:04]
asciilifeform the condition of the place because the previous tenants were her sister and family members that had lived there and left it in this condition. My girlfriend threw our food in no particular order in the cupboards and fridge. I noticed thousands of red ants all over the counter and in the cupboards. Once I removed the food products I noticed thousands more and ant eggs all over. I asked her to get off her ass to help she wiped a [00:04]
asciilifeform few shelves but missed many. I am paying for all of this for her and her 2 siblings and assuming most of the responsibility for everything else. She leaves lights on, fridge door open which is already a piece of junk, food gets wasted, and drinks’ aren’t cold, she takes no initiative and wonders why I am angry with her all the time.' << win [00:04]
asciilifeform why, one wonders, did he not fuck a pig instead [00:04]
asciilifeform cheaper. [00:04]
punkman whole blog is full of complaining about girlfriends/wives [00:06]
asciilifeform 'Furnished means rat infested and this is not an exaggeration either w/ dirty linen, leaky gas lines etc. We ran out of a fresh tank of gas only in a few days and kept seeing a rat in our unit. We couldn’t find him until one day, living in our sofa. We heard him nightly and found droppings. It wasn’t until I tore apart the bottom of the sofa to find him there. By the way this is considered an upscale area and where there a [00:06]
asciilifeform re many foreign men supporting the women here. This rat was probably living here years without any Filipinos tenants being disturbed by any of this.' << am i missing something [00:06]
asciilifeform or is the allegation here that rats somehow live on leaking gas ? [00:06]
asciilifeform or am i alone in expecting a paragraph to stick to a subject. [00:06]
punkman "the previous tenants were her sister and family members" [00:07]
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punkman maybe pet rat [00:07]
asciilifeform at least they've invented sport crucifixion ! [00:08]
asciilifeform who said philippines were worthless. [00:09]
asciilifeform aficionados - straight to 'google images'. [00:09]
punkman oh like self-flagellation? [00:11]
asciilifeform mno [00:11]
asciilifeform crucifixion. [00:11]
asciilifeform with nails. [00:11]
punkman I mean in that spirit [00:11]
asciilifeform (they take'em down at the end of the day, sure.) [00:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58750 @ 0.00070469 = 41.4005 BTC [-] {7} [00:13]
asciilifeform 'BLARNEY is the leading source of FISA collection, producing over 11,000 reports and is consistently a top contributor to the President's Daily Brief. The program contributes to over 60% of product reporting to the Counterterrorism product line and over 80% of the overall FAA reporting.' [00:15]
asciilifeform ( https://cryptome.org/2015/08/nsa-sso-fair-storm-blar-nyt-propub-15-0814.pdf ) [00:15]
asciilifeform ^ no ocr available atm [00:15]
asciilifeform ^ lengthy turd concerning 'corporate partners' (telecom stoolies et al) [00:16]
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phf i saw hook suspension as part of religious ceremony in souther india, they put a lot more showmanship into the whole process then u.s. bdsm crowd. between music, dancing and the general revelry, it's very impressive [00:17]
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* mircea_popescu is sad that the imbecile "sane stupid and consensual" crowd has managed to make bdsm appear a sort of roadshow discipline, with all the other circus acts. [00:19]
asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/Iio16dQ.png [00:20]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1heV7jM ) [00:20]
mats this filipino shit is unreadable [00:20]
mats and this writer is supposedly from canada [00:20]
mircea_popescu check it out the midwest doesn't existest. [00:20]
punkman hook suspension is more related to the bmezine crowd than bdsm [00:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this particular item mainly infests cable drop sites and nearby [00:21]
asciilifeform (oceanic fiber) [00:21]
mircea_popescu punkman still, what came to his mind. and i know why the fuck it came to his mind, too. [00:21]
asciilifeform why? [00:21]
mircea_popescu because i've personally seen the sorts of fucktards who derp about how they're doing bdsm [00:22]
phf there's little difference between bmezine crowd and bdsm in u.s., see also mp's comment [00:22]
mircea_popescu exactly like "hackers" [00:22]
phf i've seen people do hook suspension at the same events they would fly volunteers, there's very little dynamic there besides "ropes! pain!" [00:23]
mircea_popescu buncha turdheads dont even KNOW each other [00:23]
scoopbot_revived Dutch Police Hunt For "Bitcoin Bomber" http://qntra.net/2015/08/dutch-police-hunt-for-bitcoin-bomber/ [00:23]
mircea_popescu then they spend weeks penning diatribes on fetlife/wherever derping about who "violated" whose trust [00:24]
asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/sPMkDgY.png [00:24]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1heVN8Z ) [00:24]
mircea_popescu "hey, i just agreed to be tied up naked by some guy i don't know, this doesn't mean he can also finger me!!111" [00:24]
mircea_popescu sort of byzantine quibbling [00:24]
mircea_popescu re the entire blarney thing : if my reports mostly consisted of who said what to whom behind whose back i'd just turn the whole shit off and go watch soaps. no fucking idea how it is that obama's not worried by mostly being fed blarney. [00:25]
mircea_popescu but hey, a country of slutmint, right. whatchagonnerdo. [00:26]
asciilifeform idk about mircea_popescu but i'm reading it, as the other snowdeniana, as hangout [00:27]
asciilifeform heavily censored, and selective to begin with [00:27]
mircea_popescu i'm not reading it. [00:27]
asciilifeform peppered with 'legalisms' [00:27]
mircea_popescu mats you don't dispute there's entire communities centered around living off derpy middle aged usian males do you ? [00:28]
mats mircea_popescu no dispute lol [00:30]
asciilifeform aaaaaand they're both done: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D9C5494A7B03BBA6E8699AF3EBACA1A2E3ED77906921EB829571A5AEF2623FBC [00:40]
asciilifeform (but not mega-surprise) [00:40]
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asciilifeform 'Dutch police claimed the perpetrator created a letter in Notepad which was then mailed to the Jumbo supermarket chain demanding that unless an unknown quantity of bitcoin was paid to him, the attacks would continue.' << wat [00:44]
asciilifeform and did i just count no less than ~3~ msword .doc turds in that thing. [00:46]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, http://40.media.tumblr.com/fbf322a08d68c2bc50a5a7429c88dba8/tumblr_nny2p7Td6e1s2ykobo1_500.jpg [00:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1heYHuu ) [00:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68700 @ 0.00070275 = 48.2789 BTC [-] {2} [00:47]
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* asciilifeform got 4th node, 'bucephalus', physically ready. but it still gotta be transported. [00:50]
hanbot bucephalus! can we send it oats? [00:53]
asciilifeform soon. [00:53]
asciilifeform incitatus also likes oats [00:53]
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pete_dushenski top o' the evening ! [00:55]
phf i know what bdsm scene needs. more 20 year old girls who are doms. [00:55]
* phf ducks [00:55]
pete_dushenski like you need two penises [00:55]
mats I've read good things about having two penises [00:56]
mats thanks, reddit [00:56]
phf one in each hand [00:57]
pete_dushenski mats you've also read about the merits of usgavin's noble for the community on reddit. [00:58]
pete_dushenski reddit has all the merit of the national enquirer and about as much believability [00:58]
cazalla asciilifeform, yeah there are few docs with a time line of events etc, nothing that isn't in the text of the article anyway [00:58]
pete_dushenski "bat boy in favour of block size increase !" [00:58]
asciilifeform cazalla: wai wat [00:58]
mats https://reddit.com/r/tabled/comments/1u7f50/table_iama_i_am_the_guy_with_two_penises_ama [00:58]
assbot [Table] IAmA: I am the guy with two penises. AMA. : tabled ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf0gsc ) [00:59]
mats if you haven't already seen, ^ [00:59]
pete_dushenski had not. [00:59]
pete_dushenski can't say i'm gonna click but hey, logs readers appreciate this kinda closing of the loop [00:59]
cazalla asciilifeform, i was responding to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239551, unless you were referring to something else with *.doc in it [00:59]
assbot Logged on 16-08-2015 03:45:14; asciilifeform: and did i just count no less than ~3~ msword .doc turds in that thing. [00:59]
phf pete_dushenski: fyi batty boy is gay man in creole [01:00]
asciilifeform ah [01:00]
pete_dushenski phf i can see it : batty = crazy = unorthodox [01:00]
phf pete_dushenski: i always thought that's from "butt", but i like your theory too [01:01]
pete_dushenski pretty much how you get alan turing [01:02]
pete_dushenski http://en.mercopress.com/2015/08/13/argentine-minister-s-daughter-26-board-member-of-main-development-bank << how you get this is altogether another matter [01:03]
assbot Argentine minister's daughter, 26, board member of main development bank — MercoPress ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf0PCp ) [01:03]
phf i had a Jamaican friend who would scare white people on campus by trash talking them in patois [01:03]
pete_dushenski ^putting a 26-yo whose never tied her own shoelaces in charge of a bank is batty for a reason [01:03]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i bet if it were an elected post, she'd win [01:04]
pete_dushenski phf: patois is interesting for its composition and [01:04]
asciilifeform because if nothing matters anyway, why not have photo of hot chick on the tube, instead of old man [01:05]
pete_dushenski phf ...and i have to say i found it sorta fascinating when i was in jamaica in february [01:05]
asciilifeform rather surprised this hasn't reached gringolandia quite yet [01:05]
asciilifeform here they seem to plan to elect an old hag [01:05]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: at the federal level, yes. [01:06]
asciilifeform but i'd vote for delfina whatthefuck, aha [01:06]
asciilifeform if she were here. [01:06]
pete_dushenski at the more local/state level, this phenomenon has spread here, particularly in the last provincial election [01:06]
pete_dushenski as covered in http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/06/a-not-so-new-era-begins-in-alberta-politics/ [01:06]
assbot A not-so-new era begins in Alberta politics. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf1qDY ) [01:06]
pete_dushenski elected school teachers with two years of experience, etc. [01:07]
pete_dushenski it's going about as well as you'd expect [01:07]
pete_dushenski folks already swinging back to the left for the upcoming federal election in ~9 weeks from now [01:07]
mircea_popescu phf couldn't hurt, actually. [01:07]
pete_dushenski *back to the right [01:07]
mircea_popescu the "more 20something dom chicks" that is. [01:09]
phf i should've put quotes around dom, but without being facetious, i agree, that would've been nice [01:09]
mircea_popescu anything that isn't the current crop would be great, really. [01:10]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: careful with that 'anything other than this' approach. it's arguably what put us in this entire mess to begin with. [01:11]
mircea_popescu myeah. [01:11]
pete_dushenski 'anything other than racist computers' [01:11]
mircea_popescu i was using it ironically. [01:11]
pete_dushenski aha [01:12]
mircea_popescu for much metairony points [01:12]
mircea_popescu arguably - meta got us in this entire mess. [01:12]
pete_dushenski meta was necessary to maintain the linear ascent of the usians from the previous 3 generations into this last one [01:13]
asciilifeform http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/tech-firm-ubiquiti-suffers-46m-cyberheist << awwww poor buggerz [01:14]
asciilifeform !s ubiquiti [01:14]
assbot 21 results for 'ubiquiti' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ubiquiti [01:14]
pete_dushenski after china chewed the production meat off of the us' flesh, that is [01:14]
mircea_popescu what already ? [01:14]
pete_dushenski "Basically, employees have to drill into their head that email is not secure. Period! If you recieve email from your boss that you need to wire somebody $$, just tell him/her to at least phone you to verify who they are." [01:15]
asciilifeform http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/10/technology/ubiquiti-hacked [01:16]
assbot Hackers siphon $47 million out of tech company's accounts - Aug. 10, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf2DeL ) [01:16]
mircea_popescu holy shit [01:16]
pete_dushenski ^from the comments of 1st piece [01:16]
asciilifeform 'A hacker posed as one of its employees online and stole $46.7 million from the company's accounts.' [01:16]
asciilifeform gold. [01:16]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2VHN7BA << anyone seen this sortta shit before ? [01:16]
assbot dpaste: 2VHN7BA ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf2Kqp ) [01:16]
mircea_popescu is it some new security model ? comma separated security or something ? [01:17]
pete_dushenski funny, same thing happened to me [01:17]
pete_dushenski i just beleeted the first part and all was well [01:17]
asciilifeform http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/05/security-firm-redefines-apt-african-phishing-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-381684 [01:17]
assbot Security Firm Redefines APT: African Phishing Threat — Krebs on Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf2UhJ ) [01:17]
asciilifeform ask him, not me. [01:18]
pete_dushenski 'the latest from Comma Security Industries' [01:18]
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phf misconfigured nginx [01:19]
asciilifeform herr krebs is a huminter not a siginter [01:19]
asciilifeform can forgive. [01:19]
asciilifeform 'What you can infer here (since Ubiquiti won’t comment) is that the scammers spoofed an employee communication from a fake email account, instructing an employee to wire funds to a “vendor.” In its laziest form, it’s an attack that anyone could mount with an Internet connection and about 5 minutes — the B2B version of the old “Nigerian prince” email fraud, except the prince purports to be your boss.' [01:20]
mircea_popescu unless the boss himself did it, and is claiming hack. [01:21]
asciilifeform no shit. [01:21]
mircea_popescu etc. [01:21]
mircea_popescu it's a fundamental flaw of the entire non-ba corporate model, and it's unfixable. [01:21]
* asciilifeform did not really consider any other variant seriously [01:21]
mircea_popescu like all the oithers. [01:21]
pete_dushenski phf if you're interested in my take on the patois-speakers on their home turf, you might be interested in http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/15/emancipation-shemancipation-independence-shmindependence/ or http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/14/the-world-is-fundamentally-hostile/ [01:22]
assbot Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf3nAq ) [01:22]
assbot The world is fundamentally hostile. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf3lIQ ) [01:22]
asciilifeform my personal favourite hypothesis is that the 47 megatonnes is an nsa-levied fine [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00071422 = 10.3919 BTC [+] [01:22]
asciilifeform for lackluster concealment of the diddle discussed in february [01:22]
asciilifeform (why not the nsa levying secret fines !!1111!!11 i oughta patent!) [01:23]
pete_dushenski dat mpoe. seriously. [01:23]
phf pete_dushenski: i've read it, didn't answer most important question, how was the beach? [01:23]
pete_dushenski phf fuck, beats me. [01:24]
pete_dushenski i'm not really the beach type [01:24]
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phf ah, my impression is that there's fuck else to do in places like that. [01:25]
pete_dushenski i won't pretend like there's a nightlife worth the bother, but i went biking, played tennis, drank several bottles of ginger wine daily [01:28]
phf i went to costa rica recently, bad food, bad services, one city for the whole country which essentially consists of 5 street blocks of what i would recognize as a city. but the beach was nice, can rent a boat and go diving, etc. [01:28]
pete_dushenski san jose is a dump [01:28]
pete_dushenski the pacific coast of costa rica is gorgeous, however. monkeys swinging from trees, perfect sand, a wide variety of ex pats [01:29]
pete_dushenski the caribbean coast is beautiful in a different way, being more tropical, lush, and mysterious [01:29]
phf we went to the nicest restaurant i could find after a week of casados, waiter was reading silverware placement of a cheat sheet, and the chicken was undercooked. it was almost comic [01:30]
pete_dushenski and speaking of travels, i'm currently crafting an article on my recent trip to the dollar store here [01:30]
phf in san jose [01:30]
pete_dushenski lol a silverware cheat sheet. that's pretty embarrassing [01:31]
pete_dushenski not enough colonialism i guess [01:32]
pete_dushenski My investment is more than a million dollars for the factory here. But during these two years I’ve lost a lot. It’s all the problem of labor—the mentality of the workers. Our factory needs to run twenty-four hours a day; it’s not just for one shift. In order to do this in Egypt, we have to hire male workers, and the men are really lazy.” [01:34]
pete_dushenski http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/learning-to-speak-lingerie [01:34]
assbot The Chinese Lingerie Venders of Egypt - The New Yorker ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf4wIm ) [01:34]
pete_dushenski egyptians can't be bothered to lift a finger, it seems [01:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63463 @ 0.00072219 = 45.8323 BTC [+] {5} [01:40]
pete_dushenski and greece just snagged a 86 bn euro loan with a 32.5 yr maturity at 1% interest [01:40]
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mircea_popescu phf where ? san jose ? [01:42]
scoopbot_revived Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ [01:42]
mircea_popescu nuts, i liked san jose a decade ago. [01:42]
mircea_popescu dude no way. wtf where've you been [01:43]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski see, totally worth it to ignore the oxi. where else are tyhey gonna find 80bn for 30 years for free. [01:44]
phf san jose reminded me of moscow in the 90s, grown men in track suits selling apples out of cardboard boxes, old women selling roasted something or other, all in the middle of a busy street [01:49]
mircea_popescu i guess i gotta dig up my pictures from there or something. [01:49]
mircea_popescu anyway. you found the nice indian restaurant with the peacocks roaming in the garden ? [01:50]
mats sounds like the Mexican side of the Tijuana border, phf [01:50]
mircea_popescu it's not really that far off. [01:50]
* mircea_popescu couldn't stand the coasts, way too hot and humid. the city itself is a very pleasant weather. [01:51]
phf yeah, mexico city was similar in places [01:51]
mats on that note, was just in ensenada a few weeks ago, great time to be there -- mostly just locals this time of year [01:52]
mircea_popescu or did you find the casino & brothel quarter ? [01:53]
phf mircea_popescu: i did not, i should've asked for recommendations ahead of time, come to think of it, i don't know spanish [01:53]
mircea_popescu dun tell me you hung out with the expats in retard quarter. [01:53]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu phf the three of us should have a costa rica photo comparison event [01:53]
mircea_popescu i doubt you can beat my teat lunch. [01:53]
mats but hard to shake the eyeballs as a couple of asians strolling around town [01:53]
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phf mircea_popescu: retard quarter i assume is around the hospital area? [01:54]
mircea_popescu btw, were the "los ninos merecen tang" ads still around ? [01:54]
mircea_popescu phf you can't miss it, there's a bunch of mcd kfc etc. only place in town they even exist. [01:55]
mircea_popescu incidentally, site:trilema.com costa rica turns out a bunch of stuff [01:55]
mircea_popescu phf does the san jose horseshoe still stand btw ? [01:56]
mircea_popescu lulz of all time, it was the size of the parking lot shed of the original one. [01:56]
phf don't remember the ads, but i don't think so [01:57]
phf what's san jose horseshoe? [01:57]
phf how long ~did~ you stay in san jose? [01:58]
mircea_popescu a soi dissant casino [01:58]
mircea_popescu like 3 years. [01:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59550 @ 0.00072229 = 43.0124 BTC [+] {6} [01:58]
mircea_popescu originally was gonna stay for a coupla weeks, but we liked it that much. [01:58]
phf we must've stayed in two different san joses, but i stayed for two days, after a week on the coast, so my expectations were already skewed [02:00]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: you didn't go to san jose alone ? [02:00]
mircea_popescu now i don't know for sure what you do etc, but the restaurants of the city've been unfairly impeached. they've nothing starred, is true, but there plenty good ones. [02:01]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski i've not gone anywhere alone, including the bathroom, since i was about 15 or so. [02:01]
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pete_dushenski don't tell me you're so rich you have a 'wiper' [02:03]
* pete_dushenski can only dream [02:03]
mircea_popescu no, i'm such an asshole i have to have my food tasted. [02:03]
* pete_dushenski can also only dream of this [02:04]
gernika following up on the reddit/hearnia thread: Holy shit I can't believe hearnia wrote this: "...Bitcoin social contract.." It's just ... unbelievable. [02:04]
hanbot scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned [02:05]
mircea_popescu phf you ever found the weirdo one that was "painting themed" so they'd bring you the food on like, that silly wooden thing painters hold to mix paints etc ? [02:05]
assbot Build Notes: “Manual” Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 | The Whet ... ( http://bit.ly/1THCNvm ) [02:05]
mircea_popescu gernika which is why he'd be doing it. [02:05]
pete_dushenski gernika: what else would rousseau say ? [02:05]
gernika I'm just trying to imagine life from the perspective of someone who could read that and buy it. A Trilema article mast seem like a solid, impenetrable brick wall. [02:06]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239715 << congrats hanbot ! [02:08]
assbot Logged on 16-08-2015 05:03:59; hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned [02:08]
pete_dushenski hanbot: nice, clean work on the ubuntu build [02:08]
mircea_popescu well, gernika, it's for tablets. [02:08]
gernika mircea_popescu: medium? [02:09]
phf mircea_popescu: ok, i yield. in the small shore towns all they have is casados, which is not something i expected after shore towns in other countries with rich sea food cuisine. so my first experience in the big city is a cheat sheet silverware and undercooked chicken for the girl. at that point i, and i agree, unfairly, assumed that they just don't like food. [02:10]
mircea_popescu ahhh [02:11]
mircea_popescu i can see it. but you know, sj is like what, 2-3 mn ? [02:11]
phf all eating casados, i'm sure [02:11]
mircea_popescu lol [02:11]
mircea_popescu i'm not even sure what that is, honestly. [02:11]
mircea_popescu "homecooking" or something ? [02:11]
phf yeah, beans, rice, chicken, plantains on a plate. they are pretty much an item on every small roadside place menu [02:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: earlier thread with bizarre made-up terminology: consider 'drapetomania' [02:13]
mats I read some of dreppers 'what every programmer should know about memory' recently [02:15]
mircea_popescu they had very decent steaks i tell you [02:15]
mats pretty good [02:15]
mircea_popescu best mexican restaurant i ever found was in cr [02:15]
asciilifeform mats: it was, interestingly [02:15]
asciilifeform mats: drepper is not a talentless man. if he were, he'd be harmless. [02:15]
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asciilifeform mats: i have that article printed and bound, on a shelf (or... had. iirc it grew legs, wandered away) [02:16]
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phf i can believe about a steak, and i think it would've been a safe bet to go to a steakhouse, but after a week of diving and swimming i'm not usually in the mood for heavier foods [02:18]
mircea_popescu yes, well, you dont want meat and don't like veggies. it's getting hard to feed you :D [02:19]
mircea_popescu i think they had a milk bar, funnily enough. [02:19]
mircea_popescu never ended up going [02:19]
phf hah [02:19]
punkman http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000147.html some random stuff I noticed [02:24]
assbot [BTC-dev] some notes after reading the source ... ( http://bit.ly/1JaRoy7 ) [02:24]
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mats asciilifeform: my 'aha' moment was when he explains how locality in memory should be used to optimize cache access [02:27]
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asciilifeform mats: it's pretty humdrum, nothing we didn't do in school [02:28]
asciilifeform but useful to give to n00bs [02:28]
asciilifeform which is where i think my copy went. [02:28]
pete_dushenski hanbot: your stator build didn't get wedged even though you didn't add the asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.patch ? [02:28]
asciilifeform punkman: nice work, and overlaps heavily with my own notes. but gotta understand why i did not make these cuts as of yet. [02:28]
punkman well hopefully you won't have to do all those and can focus on more important things [02:29]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: the wedge point would take about a week to reach, at typical pace, if starting from nil [02:29]
gernika asciilifeform: took my openbsd box 4 weeks [02:29]
asciilifeform punkman: recall mircea_popescu's comment about 'father's pistols' [02:30]
asciilifeform it is one thing to snip provably unreachable code [02:30]
asciilifeform a very other thing to cut messages [02:30]
asciilifeform not that we actually need 'checkorder' for anything [02:30]
phf mircea_popescu: i was expecting fresh seafood, it being a coastal country, easily available. oaxaca and guerrero for example had fish markets all over the shore. [02:30]
asciilifeform nor do i have much desire to replace anything whatsoever with boostisms [02:31]
asciilifeform (re: json comment) [02:31]
asciilifeform try to remember the basic reason why we're using 0.5.3 as foundation rather than starting from empty. [02:32]
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asciilifeform it is a steaming pile of shit, but has one saving grace: it existed prior to the war. [02:33]
asciilifeform prior to bitcoin being dear. [02:33]
phf i remember a bar in old san juan, and their bar food selection consisted of a spicy soup and oysters. i'm pretty sure those were best oysters i've had [02:33]
asciilifeform punkman: this does not mean that it can't be cut. i've been cutting it. but it has to be cut like a living thing. [02:34]
asciilifeform with care. [02:34]
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ben_vulpes so defadvice is rms's wacky clos? [02:43]
thestringpuller So we get censored in reddit and get called crazy. [02:43]
thestringpuller Hearn's article gets censored and all the tards lose their shit. [02:43]
ben_vulpes ahyu, link, thestringpuller? [02:43]
thestringpuller http://qntra.net/2015/01/its-easy-to-call-us-a-tiny-minority-when-you-engage-in-vote-manipulation/ << our censorship [02:44]
thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h5kr6/why_is_bitcoin_forking/cu4fhny << they posted hearns article and it got "removed" in a similar fashion (blatant removal rather than manipulation) [02:45]
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thestringpuller top 25 posts now are all about block size limit... [02:47]
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phf ben_vulpes: no, this https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/eieio/ is emacs's whacky clos. i think advice is a separate lineage, by way of interlisp. there's defadvice in lispworks for example [02:48]
assbot Enhanced Implementation of Emacs Interpreted Objects: Top ... ( http://bit.ly/1JaSwSl ) [02:48]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239712 <<< ah, so you do have a kagero! [02:48]
assbot Logged on 16-08-2015 05:02:25; mircea_popescu: no, i'm such an asshole i have to have my food tasted. [02:48]
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ben_vulpes phf: how'd they land on 'EIEIO'? [02:51]
punkman yeah, why not aiaiaiaaiaia? [02:52]
phf ben_vulpes: i think the madness comes with trying to do clos in elisp :> [02:52]
ben_vulpes i try to only use it as a scripting language for my 'editor' [02:53]
ben_vulpes but brainfuck exists so why not clos in elisp [02:54]
ben_vulpes reddit ssl is confuckered to use sha-1 [02:54]
ben_vulpes well done, chaps [02:54]
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pete_dushenski http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150815&t=2&i=1072179779&w=976&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2015-08-15T224512Z_40_GF20000021263_RTRMADP_0_USA-ELECTION-TRUMP << caption this election campaign shot #2 [03:58]
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davout deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0A11YS3.txt [06:26]
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scoopbot_revived X.EUR August 16th statement http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-august-16th-statement/ [06:26]
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shinohai http://redd.it/3h5pb2 [09:13]
shinohai ^ "I declare a 25 BTC bounty to the first pool that will mine a block with Bitcoin ХT." [09:14]
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davout shinohai: "i'll do it if the bounty is paid in regular bitcoin" [09:44]
shinohai kek [09:44]
shinohai The tards have taken the front page of r/bitcoin with XT and censorship nonsense today. [09:45]
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punkman http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/15/tianjin-blasts-police-order-mass-evacuations-amid-further-explosions [10:06]
assbot Tianjin explosions: police order mass evacuation amid contamination fears | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1IVv1sL ) [10:07]
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shinohai ;;later tell trinque got the script to tun, fails to compile BxImage: https://transfer.sh/rkCI7/genkernel.log [10:24]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:24]
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asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h6tmm/question_for_forkers << lulz [11:58]
assbot Question for forkers : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1WwacO6 ) [11:58]
BingoBoingo ass https://i.imgur.com/T3qkBvQh.jpg [12:04]
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thestringpuller asciilifeform: "Forkers"? Seriously? [12:11]
thestringpuller The "arguments" and rhetoric from the people opposing the easing of the 1 MB cap are so getting so desperate that it almost feels like the last gasp of some pathetic campaign. You have lost this battle. Give it up already. [12:11]
thestringpuller ^^^ So entertaining [12:11]
jurov "mission accomplished" [12:11]
scoopbot_revived Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/ [12:11]
asciilifeform l0l i somehow missed the exponentially-growing size thing [12:12]
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thestringpuller asciilifeform: The maximum size shall be 8,000,000 bytes at a timestamp of 2016-01-11 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 1452470400), and shall double every 63,072,000 seconds (two years, ignoring leap years), until 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 2083190400). The maximum size of blocks in between doublings will increase linearly based on the block's timestamp. The maximum size of blocks after 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC shall be 8,192,000 [12:13]
asciilifeform glorious. [12:13]
asciilifeform why not 8GB ~right now~ [12:13]
asciilifeform 8TB [12:13]
asciilifeform 8PB. [12:13]
thestringpuller @_@ [12:13]
asciilifeform let ever maggot send tx [12:13]
punkman not enough maggots to fill an 8mb block anyway [12:14]
asciilifeform usg knows how to breed'em [12:14]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: zoolag back up? [12:14]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239484 [12:15]
assbot Logged on 16-08-2015 02:29:02; asciilifeform: zoolag is back. [12:15]
BingoBoingo why not 8GB ~right now~ << For the slow boil. Have to hook them long enough reversion from the mistake seems impossibru [12:15]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: fix your post, 'though given Satoshi's infrequent use of cryptographic signatures and loss the email account' --> 'loss of' [12:16]
BingoBoingo damn, fxd [12:16]
thestringpuller oh i was about to put that typo up [12:16]
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thestringpuller ;;calc 365 / (6262 + 365) [12:21]
gribble 0.0550777123887 [12:21]
thestringpuller ^- majority my ass [12:21]
thestringpuller ;;calc 365 / (6262) [12:22]
gribble 0.0582880868732 [12:22]
thestringpuller 6% of all nodes are XT. [12:22]
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punkman thestringpuller: even that is doubtful [12:22]
BingoBoingo It really depends on how you count total nodes [12:28]
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fluffypony asciilifeform: the stupidest thing is that the max message size is 32mb anyway [12:36]
punkman fluffypony: you want em bigger? [12:37]
fluffypony so nfi if they think they're magically going to redo huge chunks of networking code somewhere inbetween things [12:37]
punkman oic, never mind [12:37]
asciilifeform fluffypony: it's more of a 'do you expect me to talk? no mr bond, i expect you to Die!!' [12:38]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/ [12:38]
assbot Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1TKeOB4 ) [12:38]
fluffypony punkman: I don't have a problem with a very conservative dynamic increase over time, bearing in mind that my baseline is "can I run a node on an entry-level South African DSL line" [12:39]
asciilifeform this is like asking 'how is that fella supposed to breathe under water' as they tie the stone around his neck [12:39]
asciilifeform the breathing thing is not part of the plan. [12:39]
fluffypony punkman: and my larger gripe is not "should we increase the blocksize or not", but rather the way Hearn-ia and Chief-Scientist-Gavin have sold this solution via Reddit and blog posts [12:39]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239920 << the '6K nodes' thing is a laugh. how many actually verify blocks from genesis up? [12:43]
assbot Logged on 16-08-2015 15:20:30; thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262 + 365) [12:43]
asciilifeform for all i know, half of'em are running 'pseudonode' [12:43]
fluffypony asciilifeform: well at least they stopped listing the nodes that don't accept incoming connections [12:44]
fluffypony they used to list them [12:44]
asciilifeform 'they' also stopped listing nodes running sane (pre-0.8) [12:44]
asciilifeform and my nodes only appear because i bludgeoned the version string to death [12:44]
asciilifeform (they appear as '-' and you can't click on it, aha) [12:44]
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asciilifeform i'm not even convinced that the figures displayed at 'bitnodes' have any strong relationship to reality [12:46]
BingoBoingo " [12:47]
BingoBoingo For the record, at LTB we will be switching all our nodes over to BitcoinXT to ensure we stay on the proper chain when the fork is triggered early next year." >> lol https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/upcoming-bitcoin-hard-fork-r-bitcoin-censorship [12:47]
assbot Upcoming Bitcoin Hard Fork & /r/bitcoin censorship - Bitcoin & Beyond | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ITV71s ) [12:47]
asciilifeform that there's the magic bugle, then [12:48]
asciilifeform the one where all the usg muppets stand up [12:48]
asciilifeform (any not stood up yet?) [12:48]
asciilifeform for the record, i'm rather surprised hearn didn't also push a switcheroo in the proof of work algo [12:50]
asciilifeform 'two tastes that go great together' (tm) (r) [12:50]
fluffypony scrypt! [12:52]
fluffypony :-P [12:52]
BingoBoingo Comes later with permaflation [12:52]
fluffypony then they're two steps away from being a Monero clone, goddamn altcoins [12:53]
BingoBoingo Linked to LIBOR [12:53]
fluffypony hah hah [12:54]
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jurov Hearn has in the past been a consistent advocate for having more Bitcoin users pushed onto less reliable SPV wallets instead of fully validating Bitcoin nodes, a move that // something missing here? // in an environment with substantially larger blocks and a higher orphaned block rate. [13:11]
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jurov BingoBoingo: accidentally something? ^ [13:11]
BingoBoingo jurov: fxd [13:12]
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jurov uf, how and when i got a "particularly promising branch criterion"? [13:21]
jurov anyone knows what is that bbranch good for? [13:22]
mircea_popescu chetty sticks. [13:23]
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mircea_popescu chetty sticks. [13:23]
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jurov well.. server defo does not like my container shenanigans [13:25]
jurov down [13:25]
mircea_popescu can you be specific ? in #eulora ? [13:25]
jurov oh i'm not in #eulora [13:26]
mircea_popescu lol [13:26]
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pete_dushenski "a funny, quirky, and inspiring memoir from online entertainment mogul, actress, and "queen of the geeks" Felicia Day about her unusual upbringing, her rise to Internet stardom, and embracing her individuality to find success in Hollywood. " [13:46]
pete_dushenski !s felicia day [13:46]
assbot 0 results for 'felicia day' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=felicia+day [13:46]
pete_dushenski thought so. [13:46]
pete_dushenski so famous, these people. [13:46]
pete_dushenski "Hilarious and inspirational, You're Never Weird on the Internet (Almost) is proof that everyone should embrace what makes them different and be brave enough to share it with the world, because anything is possible now - even for a digital misfit. " [13:46]
pete_dushenski vomit. [13:46]
mircea_popescu and on the other hand, http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-115051 [13:50]
assbot A complete theory of economics on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvwAnF ) [13:50]
pete_dushenski these two hands are remarkably similar in terms of the half-retarded chickies they're holding [13:52]
mircea_popescu a week! [13:52]
mircea_popescu a week at least, with dedicated servers and ips, derp's been derping. [13:53]
mircea_popescu what "spam makes money" ? [13:53]
mircea_popescu it makes money like "i'm going to be a star" makes money. [13:53]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell funkenstein_ replied http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/15/emancipation-shemancipation-independence-shmindependence/#comment-26618 [13:53]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:53]
assbot Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz4Efv ) [13:53]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: the satisfaction of seeing one's spam comment on the pages of trilema is worth so much more than money [13:54]
mircea_popescu heh [13:54]
pete_dushenski ;;seen menahem [13:55]
gribble menahem was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 30 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: ahh shit thats cray. :D [13:55]
pete_dushenski "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out." [13:59]
pete_dushenski "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out." [13:59]
pete_dushenski wtf. [13:59]
pete_dushenski "Up for an adventure but can’t decide where to go? This app randomly picks a top bar on Yelp, picks you up in an Uber and takes you there — without you knowing the destination." [13:59]
pete_dushenski such random ! [14:00]
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BingoBoingo Latest article corrected http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/#comment-42174 [14:00]
assbot Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz5rgp ) [14:00]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/#comment-42177 [14:02]
assbot Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz5IQC ) [14:02]
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pete_dushenski "I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism." [14:04]
pete_dushenski ^'satoshi' [14:04]
mircea_popescu doh. [14:04]
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BingoBoingo In other news Qntra is up to 901 comments http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/#comment-42177 [14:22]
assbot Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz5IQC ) [14:22]
mircea_popescu and the counter is 42k ? lotta spam ? [14:22]
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mircea_popescu i feel so rich. [14:25]
BingoBoingo (40,340) for the spam [14:27]
mircea_popescu I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork. [14:27]
mircea_popescu The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satos [14:27]
mircea_popescu hi Nakamoto. Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it. By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour. [14:27]
mircea_popescu They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be. However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions. For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivia [14:27]
mircea_popescu l problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism. [14:27]
mircea_popescu If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold. [14:27]
mircea_popescu Satoshi Nakamoto [14:27]
mircea_popescu sorry for taking the space, but you never know what else happens on teh internets. [14:27]
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mircea_popescu obviously all i see in there is "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi". but that'd be me. [14:29]
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BingoBoingo !b 2 [14:32]
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BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h72bq/help_installing_xt_on_window_98/ [14:38]
assbot Help installing XT on Window 98? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW0N9e ) [14:38]
mircea_popescu !rated btcdrak [14:39]
assbot btcdrak is not registered in WoT. [14:39]
mircea_popescu wouldja mind ? [14:39]
BingoBoingo !up btcdrak [14:39]
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mircea_popescu anyway, the reddit thread is pretty lulzy. all teh butthurt awww. [14:40]
btcdrak not sure I too tbh. [14:40]
btcdrak yeah reddit is a mess atm. [14:40]
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mircea_popescu "Heh, whoever this guy is, he probably could have never anticipated that the Streisand effect will be the downfall of the small-blockers' side. " [14:41]
mircea_popescu etc. [14:41]
mircea_popescu teh downfael1 [14:41]
mircea_popescu "Can't see why SN would write about Gavin in this sort of terse/removed tone." [14:41]
mircea_popescu guess. [14:41]
btcdrak bwahahahaha [14:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76400 @ 0.00072244 = 55.1944 BTC [+] {7} [14:42]
mircea_popescu btcdrak i mean, wouldja mind registering with assbot [14:42]
mircea_popescu let's hold a moment of silence for 2 years ago. http://trilema.com/2013/and-gavin-moves-on-to-the-dark-side-the-bitcoin-project-is-officially-hijacked/ [14:42]
assbot And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvB8Kx ) [14:42]
btcdrak It would be so funny if Satoshi does something to remove doubt of his identity. I'd love to see the cognitive dissonance play out on r/bitcoin. [14:43]
mircea_popescu no point doing that before the idiots invest themselves in it. [14:43]
mircea_popescu let gavinhearn come out with a "hey it's notrly satoshi" first. [14:43]
mircea_popescu and speaking of gavin, [14:47]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2014#822992 [14:47]
assbot Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy [14:47]
btcdrak ok I registered with assbot [14:48]
BingoBoingo !rate btcdrak 1 lurks here [14:49]
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asciilifeform eight yottabyte blocks when !!!1111 [14:49]
BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.btcdrak.1:bfd9f1dbc0e9d0d0e4a40211f5707f13406d3119b39375fe388e73cef2e3b13e [14:49]
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mircea_popescu !rate btcdrak 1 New blood [14:50]
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btcdrak I'm officially registered as an ass now. reddit will be pleased. next stop t/buttcoin. Jealous of petertodd who got mod status [14:50]
mircea_popescu btcdrak can now self voice [14:51]
btcdrak ty [14:51]
mircea_popescu being an ass is the best thing to be - you get all teh pleasure. [14:51]
btcdrak did you see this? https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3h78x9/pseudonode_can_now_pretend_to_be_bitcoin_xt/ LOL [14:53]
assbot PseudoNode can now pretend to be Bitcoin XT. · basil00/PseudoNode@e61ec61 : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW2Fyz ) [14:53]
btcdrak looks like someone wants to mess with Mike's statistics [14:54]
mircea_popescu the b-a node could do this since forever, if anytone gave a shit to bother. [14:54]
kakobrekla wheres that ddoser now, could be put to good use [14:55]
mircea_popescu lol [14:55]
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BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/16/cddfcdf25e7f92448824bd343e842e65.jpg [15:03]
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BingoBoingo Underhanded c 2015 challenge is up http://www.underhanded-c.org/ [15:12]
assbot The Underhanded C Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW4NX2 ) [15:12]
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BingoBoingo ;;nethash [15:20]
gribble 371799054.163 [15:20]
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btcdrak https://twitter.com/bramcohen/status/632954147994750980 [15:57]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: fyi vlc will happily play youtube videos from the url alone. "open network". [15:57]
mats TIL [15:58]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes: see pm [16:02]
thestringpuller are the 14.04 test results available? [16:04]
mod6 ubuntu? [16:11]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i dun have vlc on this machine and i don't usually care enough to check some vid on a dirty box [16:22]
mircea_popescu but yeah. [16:23]
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BingoBoingo 54 weeks too early https://bitbet.us/bet/767/openly-gay-player-in-major-league-baseball-before/ http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/16/david_denson_baseball_finally_has_its_first_openly_gay_active_player.html [16:44]
assbot BitBet - Openly gay player in Major League Baseball before August :: 0.07 B (35%) on Yes, 0.13 B (65%) on No | closed 1 year 3 weeks ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL6T6N ) [16:44]
assbot David Denson: Baseball finally has its first openly gay active player. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL6Tnd ) [16:44]
mircea_popescu awww [16:45]
BingoBoingo More podcaster derp https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h81dh/bram_cohen_bitcoinxt_because_the_best_way_of/cu541cb [16:52]
assbot cryptonaut420 comments on [Bram Cohen] Bitcoin-XT: Because the best way of making engineering decisions is by popularity on reddit. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL8DNh ) [16:52]
BingoBoingo Because MP, MPEx, Trilema, and qntra don't exist [16:53]
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punkman cohen is a king among the autists [16:58]
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ben_vulpes i just cracked my water heater thermostat open [17:06]
ben_vulpes unsurprisingly, 'twas set to its lowest possible setting [17:06]
punkman any higher and the heating becomes global instead of local [17:07]
ben_vulpes the communists came through the apartments recently as well, installing low-flow faucet hobbles [17:08]
mats lol it appears based on those Cohen tweets that weev has a sensible position on the fork [17:09]
mats mebbe he is still reading logs [17:09]
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mats i still don't get why he took off after that brief conversation with mp if he actually has access to 0days [17:10]
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BingoBoingo mats: Not exploit zero days, "information" 0 days or something like that. [17:13]
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mats not sure what that means [17:16]
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punkman what like the pr release hacks? [17:17]
BingoBoingo business seekrits or something like that [17:17]
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mats ic [17:17]
mats that sounds even more difficult to sell than a n-day exploit [17:18]
BingoBoingo lol https://voat.co/v/bitcoin/comments/419341/1855544 [17:18]
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ben_vulpes notrly, go short and drop the docs [17:21]
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mircea_popescu lol @ all teh reddit posts with 0 votes. [17:38]
mircea_popescu mats upon research it turns out that teh guy isn't/wasn't actually doing anything. i'm obviously not the best avenue for that. [17:39]
mircea_popescu iirc he made some start-up with max keiser, which failed. [17:39]
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mircea_popescu "Imagine that happened when they thought they had 75% but actually only 10%..." <<< no need to imagine anything. simply recall the event a few weeks ago when they who thought they had 90% actually had <40%. [17:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.000741 = 8.7779 BTC [-] [17:59]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/troubadour/ [18:01]
assbot Troubadour ... ( http://bit.ly/1TJTHK6 ) [18:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00075084 = 31.0097 BTC [+] [19:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25854 @ 0.00075084 = 19.4122 BTC [+] [19:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 210969 @ 0.00077068 = 162.5896 BTC [+] {10} [19:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76950 @ 0.00078487 = 60.3957 BTC [+] {3} [19:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83196 @ 0.00075084 = 62.4669 BTC [-] [19:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00073118 = 53.8148 BTC [-] {5} [19:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00072025 = 47.7526 BTC [-] {2} [19:47]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [20:26]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 256.09, vol: 9822.81089287 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 256.05, vol: 4354.06766 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 259.29, vol: 27889.01352868 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 262.0, vol: 12.37063187 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 257.330128, vol: 18651.01300000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 260.3475, vol: 263.60326104 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 260.8722, vol: 22.58341741 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [20:26]
BingoBoingo ;;more [20:26]
gribble 257.950245245 [20:26]
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mircea_popescu hmm, anyone recall where the fuck i put that screenshot of gavin casually admitting that satoshi never spoke to him after he ran off and "presented" bitcoin @nsa hq ? [20:32]
shinohai No, but if anyone finds it I will preserve it. [20:32]
midnightmagic satoshi never spoke to anyone. [20:32]
shinohai He may as well have sucked Gavin's cock as far as r/bitcoin is concerned. [20:33]
BingoBoingo I think you may have trilema'd it this year [20:34]
mircea_popescu yes this year. [20:34]
mircea_popescu recently, cuz it was luzly how i'm apparently the only one remembering. [20:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00077666 = 14.64 BTC [+] {4} [20:34]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'm checking the job board [20:35]
menahem hmm, no screenshot, but there is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113609.0 [20:35]
assbot Satoshi dumped Bitcoin right after Gavin announced he was going to the CIA. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYrUDx ) [20:35]
menahem that was recent though, I remember reading it about 2-ish weeks ago. [20:36]
menahem (your post) [20:36]
mircea_popescu i guess ire=make it [20:36]
BingoBoingo I wonder if Hearn made any An Heros this week http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/ [20:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39837 @ 0.00079097 = 31.5099 BTC [+] {4} [20:37]
assbot Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUts4e ) [20:38]
mircea_popescu win [20:38]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/02/there-is-nothing-new-in-the-world-except-for-the-history-you-didnt-know/ [20:38]
assbot There is nothing new in the world. Except for the history you didn't know. | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYs65K ) [20:38]
mircea_popescu that's why i wasn't finding it lol [20:38]
BingoBoingo Ah [20:39]
BingoBoingo I dunno how you find old Trilemas, even Qntra is starting to really slow down the brainchain index [20:40]
* BingoBoingo would be totally lost if not for the http://qntra.net/archives/ page [20:40]
assbot Archives | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYsi4V ) [20:40]
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BingoBoingo !up Duffer1 [20:41]
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menahem lol now that I think about it, that's probably why I remember seeing that article.. after going through qntra archives. [20:45]
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mats >0.00079097 [20:51]
mats wat [20:51]
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BingoBoingo Bullish [20:52]
BingoBoingo Or did that break your trading stratergy [20:53]
punkman to the moon! [20:53]
mats nah [20:53]
mats i make small 2-4% plays [20:53]
mats unfortunately i don't get paid when mpoe moves like this but meh whatever [20:54]
mats i wont get hosed when it falls back to 0.00028 either [20:54]
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scoopbot_revived The news, in brief : "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi" http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/ [20:57]
mats order book currently looks like this: bids (0.00074712, 58500) (0.00071408, 57) (0.00071407, 21696) asks (0.00076799, 159300) (0.00079910, 35312) (0.0008, 32418) [20:57]
mats much spread [20:58]
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mats http://quellish.tumblr.com/post/126712999812/how-on-earth-the-facebook-ios-application-is-so [21:03]
assbot quellish - How on Earth the Facebook iOS Application is so large ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYu4TN ) [21:03]
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mats >there are more than 18,000 classses in the application [21:03]
BingoBoingo That was fast https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h9763/the_news_in_brief_hearn_is_a_shitstain_mp_is/ [21:05]
assbot The news, in brief : "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYufhW ) [21:05]
punkman I don't think I've written 18k classes total so far [21:05]
mats if only 'satoshi' went to the effort of signing a message with an addr from his hoard [21:13]
BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/bitcoin/comments/420783 [21:14]
assbot Checking your bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYv1LJ ) [21:14]
midnightmagic Nobody actually knows whether there is any hoard or not. It would not be possible to attribute it to him. [21:14]
mats i would be convinced it was him if he used coins from the first day of mining [21:15]
mats and would have the interesting effect of perhaps moving the market [21:15]
mats but yes, whether he has the keys at all -- an open question. [21:18]
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Adlai satoshi should spend to the mpex address, move two markets with one stone [21:19]
mats i can't imagine how many redditor brains would explode at the notion [21:21]
BingoBoingo Win https://github.com/xtbit/notbitcoinxt#not-bitcoin-xt [21:24]
assbot xtbit/notbitcoinxt · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lekjki ) [21:24]
BingoBoingo "This version is indistinguishable from Bitcoin XT 0.11A except that it will not actually hard fork to BIP101, yet appears on the p2p network as Bitcoin XT 0.11A replete with features, yet at a consensus level behaves just like Bitcoin Core 0.11. If it is used to mine, it will produce XT block versions without actually supporting >1MB blocks." [21:25]
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midnightmagic more ideally the instant the fork condition is met it would invisibly switch the miner back to making normal -core blocks., and the miner should be stripping all identifying marks from coinbase etc and submitting via e.g. eligius block submission port. [21:41]
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BingoBoingo Well this looks like someone's first draft. I'm sure more things will emerge later for great justice. Still no XT block yet. [21:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103500 @ 0.00076799 = 79.487 BTC [-] [22:01]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol 2 votes, 100% upvoted, yet it's not in new not in rising etc. [22:16]
mircea_popescu meanwhile hearn is being censored., [22:16]
mircea_popescu the life and times lmao. [22:16]
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trinque hory shit! the day I pick to go to the river! [22:22]
* trinque begins the logs [22:22]
trinque shinohai | ;;later tell trinque got the script to tun, fails to compile BxImage: https://transfer.sh/rkCI7/genkernel.log << that oddly is a failure building the kernel, which is unexpected and should not be gentoo-specific [22:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lfa8Pg ) [22:23]
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shinohai trinque: I finally got it to run, added genkernel --menuconfig all to line 185 [22:39]
shinohai but still have no idea how to run it inside qemu [22:40]
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ben_vulpes what what? [22:44]
ben_vulpes theymos moderates r/bitcoin? [22:44]
ben_vulpes nyooz to me [22:44]
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trinque shinohai: may I have your .config ? [22:47]
trinque and I'll diff it with the one I produced [22:47]
trinque or rather, do you know what you kicked on in menuconfig? [22:47]
trinque and the qemu commands is... qemu-system-x86_64 -hda root.img -vnc :0 -redir tcp:2222::22 [22:47]
trinque something like that [22:47]
shinohai I'll get config asap. I tried starting it that same way (minus vnc, don't use it) [22:51]
trinque I had that in there to see the lilo screen [22:52]
trinque but not necessary long as it boots [22:52]
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trinque shinohai: are you on an amd something something? [22:57]
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ben_vulpes http://www.businessinsider.com/25-most-exciting-bitcoin-startups-in-the-world-ethereum-21-coinbase-coindesk-2015-3?op=1 << remember when coindesk was #5 according to business derpsider? [23:25]
assbot The 25 most exciting bitcoin startups in the world - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYEpyV ) [23:25]
trinque shinohai: you might want to run memtest86 or something; you might have derped ram [23:28]
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