Forum logs for 15 May 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* assbot gives voice to menahem [00:03]
williamdunne A mouthful of freedom; http://38.media.tumblr.com/88b077e9cd05d5b539bfebc783d3627e/tumblr_n9tskosimG1r7e6duo2_400.gif [00:03]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5bYyt ) [00:03]
mircea_popescu decimation yeah totally. meanwhile the brilliant plan tostop supporting israel has resulted in an israel that could no longerr pull off the halfweek war, thus the arabs are no longer affraid of it, thus saudi arabia has no further need for the us alliance, thus they're trashing it. [00:04]
mircea_popescu brilliant plan, brilliantly executed. meanwhile, the chinese go to putin's victory celebration, the us press derps about how the european heads of "states" missed the opportunity to be relevant. [00:05]
mircea_popescu obama holds an arab world summit, nobody goes, us press is all quiet on THAT score. [00:05]
williamdunne Haven't heard about that one, what should I be googling? [00:06]
decimation yeah that's a good point. apparently the arabs are not happy that the us intends to proxy iran instead of them [00:06]
menahem williamdunne ahh i love #b-a.. all the right reminders. :) [00:06]
decimation http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/barack-obama-flubs-name-of-first-saudi-king-117945.html [00:07]
assbot Whoops: Obama flubs name of first Saudi king - Nick Gass - POLITICO ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5cEnM ) [00:07]
mircea_popescu williamdunne http://nypost.com/2015/05/11/obamas-lonely-arab-summit/ say. [00:07]
assbot Obama’s lonely ‘Arab Summit’ | New York Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5cJHV ) [00:07]
mircea_popescu or i guess www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32694184 [00:07]
williamdunne >Even the offer by Obama of a separate tete-a-tete in Washington could not persuade Saudi Arabia’s King Salman to attend what Riyadh sources describe as “a photo-op” aimed at hoodwinking the American public. [00:08]
williamdunne rekt [00:08]
decimation basically the us stole saudi arabia's oil from the british - which is the foundation of us power in the middle east for the past 70 years. obama apparently is ignorant of this history [00:08]
trinque http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/14/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-promises-to-match-iran-in-nuclear-capability.html?_r=0 [00:09]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5d9xT ) [00:09]
trinque let 'em nuke each other [00:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32220 @ 0.00028063 = 9.0419 BTC [+] [00:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56950 @ 0.00028456 = 16.2057 BTC [+] {2} [00:23]
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mircea_popescu mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66 [00:36]
assbot So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5hSzT ) [00:36]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132514 << this appears to be an inescapable inference, yes [00:37]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 02:29:00; decimation: asciilifeform: apparently it's mp's position that an mpex seat is implicitly time limited [00:37]
scoopbot_revived New MPEx fee http://trilema.com/2015/new-mpex-fee/ [00:37]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132398 << lol teh haet. [00:37]
assbot Logged on 14-05-2015 21:45:38; jurov: he's born into wrong time, prolly wants to build a pyramid [00:37]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132394 << not a question of "logical continuation". are children the "logical continuation" of their parents ? are they still required to pass the bacalaureat ? [00:38]
assbot Logged on 14-05-2015 21:44:05; ascii_field: i'm kinda curious why mircea_popescu considers a new key signed with a previous key to not be a logical continuation of the same identity. (is it because of the impossibility of hard-guaranteed revocation, as discussed in previous thread?) [00:38]
williamdunne >It was recently brought to my attention that yes, the MPEx fee for registering new accounts is still 30 BTC. [00:39]
williamdunne lawl [00:39]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132410 << SCANDAL!11 mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? [00:39]
assbot Logged on 14-05-2015 21:49:50; davout: meanwhile, http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/ leads to a "The Free Trial is Over" stock page XD [00:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is ludicrous sophistry and you know it. if i sign key y with key x, it is proof that i hold key x. nothing to do with parents or children, no analogy here. [00:39]
mircea_popescu it's no such proof. it's proof that you are willing to allow the holder of key y to continue in your stead. [00:40]
mircea_popescu no requirement he be you. [00:40]
decimation meanwhile, hacker h will one day cuckold key y [00:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: so this is mainly to discourage reselling account ? [00:41]
mircea_popescu well in practice it seems it's mainly to drive people up the wall. [00:42]
mircea_popescu but anyway : it's not to anything. it's because. [00:42]
* asciilifeform is wondering what mpex seat will cost by the time he actually needs it [00:42]
mircea_popescu gotta keep lyfe interesting for people. [00:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: incidentally, what is to keep it from costing X, where X is whatever s.nsa is worth at that time ? [00:43]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:44]
mircea_popescu !t m s.nsa [00:44]
assbot [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00009001 / 0.00009843 / 0.00009851 (121000 shares, 11.91 BTC) [00:44]
williamdunne asciilifeform: Wouldn't it serve the opposite purpose, and encourage account reselling? [00:44]
asciilifeform no relation to extant numbers. but serious question. [00:44]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 4737075 * 0.00009843 [00:44]
gribble 466.27029225 [00:44]
mircea_popescu omfg stop bitching privilege boy! [00:44]
asciilifeform regardless of what is bought and sold by s.nsa, i can't eat any of it unless i buy mpex ticket. [00:44]
mircea_popescu what is that, like 70% yours ? [00:44]
asciilifeform which presently costs about what my organs are worth [00:45]
mircea_popescu your organs are worth 10k ? [00:45]
mircea_popescu what do you take yourself for, a 16yo girl ? [00:45]
williamdunne asciilifeform: If you find a decent buyer, I'll give you 10% commission on a kidney. [00:45]
mircea_popescu no value in organs of old men! [00:45]
asciilifeform if correctly parcelled out and sold to americans, they could be worth 10k. [00:45]
asciilifeform but mainly taken in proverbial 'organs worth' sense of 'more money than i ever expect to touch at one time' [00:46]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you recall the entire warrants business btw ? [00:46]
asciilifeform aha [00:46]
mircea_popescu that's what, another ~350 ish [00:47]
mircea_popescu better start saving! [00:47]
asciilifeform l0l saving. [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52400 @ 0.00028599 = 14.9859 BTC [+] {2} [00:48]
mircea_popescu anyway, here's some rosy glasses for you : [00:48]
mircea_popescu suppose within the year cardano proves such a success s.nsa trades ~0.00020000 like s.bbet. at that point, your 70% share of the stock will be worth 663.1905 ; your warrants like another 663.1904. if btc is 1.2k at that point again, you're now worth a million and a half in benjies [00:50]
mircea_popescu ima make sure the mpex fee is 1.250 mn or so at that point :D [00:50]
asciilifeform which can turn into 0 when mircea_popescu resets the price of mpex ticket to equal 663.1905 [00:50]
asciilifeform aha. [00:51]
mircea_popescu yeah but at least you had fun. [00:51]
mircea_popescu better than vegas eh. [00:51]
williamdunne Can't you access warrants and the similar through coinbr? [00:51]
mircea_popescu (i also fucked up the math, warrants only worth like 330) [00:51]
asciilifeform williamdunne: i will not use coinbr. [00:51]
mircea_popescu williamdunne of course he can. [00:52]
asciilifeform williamdunne: because wtf decay [00:52]
mircea_popescu he can access them via otc, for that matter, just sell em to someone. but it makes little sense before share goes over par. [00:52]
asciilifeform williamdunne: i couldn't use coinbr even if wanted to, because it would be a recurring btc cost and i have no btc-denominated income stream. [00:53]
williamdunne Ah ok, fair nuff [00:53]
mircea_popescu well... you could start polyamory-ing, and then getting a new girl each week and then tricking her into having her picture taken with weird numbers written on her chest. [00:53]
mircea_popescu .4 a month. [00:53]
mircea_popescu should cover coinbr [00:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i could also visit buenos aires via fart propulsion and wings made from garbage bags. [00:54]
asciilifeform just as theoretically possible. [00:54]
mircea_popescu what do you think this is, a gilliam movie ? [00:54]
decimation I donno, how much energy can you extract from one colon's gas? [00:54]
asciilifeform decimation: the same amount of girl pickup energy i have [00:55]
decimation heh [00:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so buy a club. [00:55]
asciilifeform l0l [00:55]
mircea_popescu (one of my favourite jokes long ago. because i knew this ugly obnoxious dude who was kinda rape-y, and also kept buying clubs, as in, bars with music.) [00:56]
asciilifeform 'do you believe in clubs for young people?' 'yes, but one ought to try kindness first' [00:56]
williamdunne !s cardano cost [00:56]
assbot 1 results for 'cardano cost' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cardano+cost [00:56]
mircea_popescu "one fart-meter" [00:56]
asciilifeform williamdunne: cost will inescapably have to adjust to exchange rate at time of mass production [00:57]
asciilifeform williamdunne: component costs are denominated in usd and will likely be long after i'm dead [00:57]
williamdunne Thats fine, USD prices are k by me [00:57]
mircea_popescu give up meat, live longer! [00:57]
williamdunne !s cardano price [00:57]
assbot 1 results for 'cardano price' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cardano+price [00:57]
asciilifeform give up live, meat longer [00:57]
mircea_popescu lol [00:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132434 << yeah srsly, one of the best private chuckles for ... well, for some people [00:59]
assbot Logged on 14-05-2015 21:55:34; ascii_field: (actually ~1.4 that it turned into) [00:59]
mircea_popescu is that alf actually beats a lot of "professional" managers [01:00]
asciilifeform l0l [01:00]
mircea_popescu sorta informal "alf benchmark" [01:00]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you do recall what it was i bought with it, aha? [01:00]
mircea_popescu notrly [01:00]
asciilifeform mpoe & dice [01:01]
mircea_popescu heh [01:01]
decimation what else is gonna bring in btc income [01:02]
decimation mining, gambling, 'financial services' [01:02]
mircea_popescu decimation i make some from trilema. [01:02]
decimation ah, selling content [01:02]
decimation no one believes that btc/usd is going to stay where it is for the long run [01:02]
decimation so who would fund a business in present btc/usd? [01:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132451 << i was gonna bitch but then i saw the gif. that's a kickass gif. [01:03]
assbot Logged on 14-05-2015 22:30:12; cazalla: much better than the grainy tumblr shit someone else links :) [01:03]
williamdunne decimation: I think the current logic is slippage [01:04]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132463 << what are you two on about ? obviously if the keys can be cracked you do nbot wish to use them. who uses bitcoin addresses with known pubkeys ? [01:06]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 00:05:30; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132454 << how could the answer possibly be anything other than yes ? [01:06]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132410 << SCANDAL!11 mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? << haha [01:07]
assbot Logged on 14-05-2015 21:49:50; davout: meanwhile, http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/ leads to a "The Free Trial is Over" stock page XD [01:07]
decimation well, I was thinking about the case where one couldn't 'upgrade' a key because of threats to existing key lengths [01:07]
mircea_popescu i don't get it ? [01:07]
decimation implicitly, this means that the existing keyholders are sentenced to cuckoldry? [01:08]
mircea_popescu not sure what cuckoldry is, but, they can just register another key and push their stuff to it ? [01:08]
decimation right, so either they pay you or they lose their btc to some key guesser? [01:08]
mircea_popescu how would the key guesser know which key to guess ? [01:09]
mircea_popescu besides, factoring 4096 keys is not quite that much of a given. for one thing, 1kb keys have not been factored yet. for the other... moore law, again ? [01:10]
decimation it's a good point, but is strong enough to close the escape hatch? [01:11]
mircea_popescu iguess we see once some chickens escape. [01:12]
decimation fair enough. I would wager against it happening in the next 20 years [01:13]
mircea_popescu i have my doubts 4096 keys will EVER be factored. [01:13]
decimation me too [01:13]
mircea_popescu the idea that computing power is a monotone... heh. out of the crooked timber of humanity, no monotone was ever made. [01:14]
mircea_popescu (for they following at home : 4x as many bits does not mean 4x as large numbers. when computer registers went from 32 to 64 bits, maxint went from 2147483647 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807) [01:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu is betting on civilization collapse before 4k factored, aha [01:29]
asciilifeform not bad bet, either [01:29]
mircea_popescu doewsn't even have to be collapse. consider : a hot area of research in the 50s/60s even 70s was genetics of intelligence. [01:30]
mircea_popescu what's the progress in the 1990 - 2010 period ? [01:30]
asciilifeform or more mundanely, breeder reactors [01:30]
mircea_popescu supposedly a major contributor to gdp worldwide is, mental health medication. [01:30]
asciilifeform fields get 'magicked' out of existence all the time. [01:30]
mircea_popescu what EXACTLY is the progress, past 30 years ? ballas has the story in detail [01:30]
mircea_popescu or even closer to home : ai. [01:31]
mircea_popescu where is the mit ai lab ? it was SO respectable in the 60s [01:31]
decimation they sorta turned into that place where that chick sews shit [01:31]
asciilifeform the collapse of ai ('ai winter') quite arguably created a black hole with sufficient suction to take -all- of computing with it [01:31]
asciilifeform (however delayed) [01:31]
mircea_popescu i don't see a future for the stuff covered by moore's law, for the very simple reason we could call "obama's arab league failure" [01:31]
mircea_popescu to wit, the usians got beaten at it, so now it will have to no longer exist [01:32]
asciilifeform at any rate, moore's law as this passive quasi-mythical gifts-from-god thing hasn't been cryptographically relevant for a while. [01:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform here's a snippet that will be perhaps insturctive. the ai winter and the vg winter happened almost in tandem. the latter resolved within a year.by the end of the decade vg was WAY ahead of the beginning. [01:33]
asciilifeform the only genuine concern is 'unicorns' (p==np, optical factorizer, entirely unknown strange) for which the incentive is more or less infinite and so will come into existence if at all physically possible [01:33]
mircea_popescu supposedly ai had much brighter minds at its disposal. what made the difference ? [01:33]
asciilifeform vg? [01:33]
mircea_popescu video games [01:33]
asciilifeform aha [01:33]
decimation ^ note that a similar incentive exists for alchemy [01:33]
mircea_popescu 1983. the thing completely collapsed [01:33]
mircea_popescu 99.x% loss in sales, most commentators agreeing "it was prolly a fad" etc. [01:34]
asciilifeform decimation: see old threads re: how neutron bombardment caps the price of gold [01:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: more or less everyone knows about the mass atari burials, etc [01:34]
mircea_popescu right. [01:34]
decimation asciilifeform: before that, astroid mining presumably [01:35]
mircea_popescu so, why ? why did the geniuses of mit fare so very much worse than the rag tag band of idiots and imbeciles coding for z80 in their bedrooms ? [01:35]
asciilifeform i would argue that the overvaluation of games was considerably less dramatic than of ai [01:35]
mircea_popescu they both don't actually exist... [01:35]
asciilifeform games, it turned out, were worth something. [01:35]
mircea_popescu they're both predicated on entertainment... [01:35]
mircea_popescu why ? [01:35]
asciilifeform people apparently sometimes like to play games. [01:35]
mircea_popescu and people don't like intelligence ? [01:35]
asciilifeform games, it turned out, could be produced, in the short term, economically. [01:36]
mircea_popescu allegedly. [01:36]
asciilifeform ai was a little more like 'hot fusion' [01:36]
asciilifeform (specifically hot) [01:36]
mircea_popescu the relation between games as produced and games is about the same as the relation between intelligence as produced and intelligence [01:36]
mircea_popescu so no, ai wasn't special. [01:36]
mircea_popescu it is my considered belief that it was SPECIFICALLY the unwarranted delusion that ai is special that ruined it. [01:36]
mircea_popescu not because it wasn't done. but because the idiots doing it (yes, minsky and all) were idiots about the one thing that matters, which had little to do with their actual target. [01:37]
mircea_popescu basically, a video game producer's view of MIT AI lab is "hey, it was a field-sized Daikatana" [01:38]
mircea_popescu EXACTLY the same. "oh, we have money, oh, we're in it to get it right" [01:38]
mircea_popescu bla bla. [01:38]
asciilifeform what ruined, very mundanely, is that it was part of reagan's massively-distributed embezzlement thing, which came to an end 'like all good things' [01:39]
asciilifeform live by usg, die by usg [01:39]
Namworld What's the opinion in this room about living expenses? What's acceptable % of revenue wise, how much should it costs, what's important stuff and less important stuff. [01:40]
mircea_popescu o.O [01:40]
Namworld I somewhat have a preference for smaller living space, higher quality goods/food. [01:41]
asciilifeform Namworld: i for one have no idea, i've never lived yet [01:41]
Namworld I'm completely derailing the current topic, sorry [01:41]
mircea_popescu the best advice i can give is, if you're having the girls living separate, pair them up. much happier girls, cheaper. [01:41]
Namworld Well considering I don't have a harem... that's not really something I have on my mind. [01:43]
mircea_popescu you see what i mean. [01:43]
Namworld More people in less space is cheaper and happier? [01:44]
mircea_popescu nope. [01:44]
mircea_popescu there is that rabi and goats story, but no. [01:45]
Namworld I don't see what you mean then. [01:45]
cazalla Namworld, know the get a discount on your bills trick? [01:48]
Namworld I often hear living in the city as someone poor (minimum salary) is harsh. It always seemed a bit absurd to me. Minimum salary here is ~$1400 per month after taxes. CAD$10.55 per hour. [01:49]
asciilifeform Namworld: and what's the minimal rent there? [01:50]
mircea_popescu cazalla costanza's "no here kruger" ? [01:50]
Namworld 400-550 [01:50]
asciilifeform for what? a cemetery plot ? [01:50]
Namworld For studio/1br apartments [01:51]
mircea_popescu alf's privileged. [01:51]
cazalla mircea_popescu, lulz no but for anyone else, retention staff often have better deals than pay on time ask no questions customers, so you port your electricity/gas to another provider, old provider comes back to you during cool down period and offers something better [01:51]
cazalla and as i've mentioned a few times before.. take a roll of toilet paper home from work each day [01:51]
cazalla and if you're really game, load up on top cuts from supermarkets but weigh them in the self-serve as carrots [01:52]
asciilifeform cazalla: take a roll of toilet paper home from work each day << top soviet state-of-art. [01:52]
cazalla nothing like sirloin at 99c a kg [01:52]
mircea_popescu cazalla i had an entire fucking lulz with the elec corp in romania. they wanted to give me a deal if i prepaid, so i prepaid for like a year. then the eu elec price explosion happened, and so they paid me to get out of the prepay deal. then prices went back down. [01:52]
mircea_popescu in the end i got however many free megawatts. [01:53]
asciilifeform l0l [01:53]
Namworld 99c a kilo? Never seen anything that cheap here. [01:53]
Namworld mircea_popescu ha! [01:53]
mircea_popescu but it was fully unintentional, they just kept running themselves into the wall [01:53]
mircea_popescu while i was nodding [01:53]
mircea_popescu noob energy futures traders, irl. [01:54]
asciilifeform they oughta have bought mpoe & dice [01:54]
mircea_popescu little do they know. [01:54]
mircea_popescu as hanbot sez, "the space to draw one's conclusion is big and fulla dragons." [01:54]
Namworld If only that... $420 rent here, split in 2 for a 1 bedroom. I'm installed in the living room/kitchen as if it was a studio. Roommate in room. [01:54]
mircea_popescu Namworld so send the roommate out to turn tricks ? should be 100 an hour at least. [01:55]
Namworld I'm no a pimp. [01:56]
cazalla you'd be better off using the spare rooms to grow dope than renting them out Namworld [01:56]
mircea_popescu why not ? they get kickass hats. [01:56]
mircea_popescu plus those platforms with live koi [01:56]
mircea_popescu cazalla nah, pink > green yo. [01:56]
Namworld Yeah, I wanted to, but I didn't have the hat. [01:57]
mircea_popescu where's that butters instructional video... [01:57]
mircea_popescu do you know what i am saying! [01:57]
cazalla mircea_popescu, ya been watching too much breaking bad [01:57]
mircea_popescu hanbot as big as the penis, it's a rule. [01:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, maybe they were goldfish, i dunno. [01:58]
mircea_popescu IANAP [01:58]
asciilifeform unrelated - anybody read the magnetics links ? [01:58]
asciilifeform because it was brain-melting [01:58]
Namworld I have rent, electricity bill, food (good food and delivered at door), cellphone and Internet all fitting within ~$500, depending on food selection that month. [01:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform is now a quesadilla. [01:59]
asciilifeform approximately. [01:59]
mircea_popescu Namworld so then what's the bitch ? you're not seriously contemplating cutting out of that 500 are you ? [01:59]
Namworld No. Feels like I have everything I need. I'm just perplexed by people who don't have the excuse of kids struggling on minimum salary. [02:00]
mircea_popescu they probably smoke. [02:00]
asciilifeform Namworld: wait till you meet the folks struggling on maximal salary [02:00]
asciilifeform and everything in between [02:01]
Namworld asciilifeform, I'm pretty sure working with folks struggling on maximal salary is a masochistic endeavour. [02:01]
Namworld You have to enjoy headaches and/or brain aneurysm. [02:02]
Namworld mircea_popescu, not always. Even then, I don't see many smokers smoking enough to burn almost $1000 a month. [02:03]
mircea_popescu what's a pack, $10 ? [02:03]
asciilifeform Namworld: one way to 'smoke' 1000/mo. is to live in usa and pay it for 'health insurance' [02:03]
mircea_popescu 3 a day is perhaps a little much [02:03]
mircea_popescu http://digitalmoneytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/shutterstock_120783400-300x199.jpg << anyone explain what the advertising-exec looking chick is doing in that pic ? [02:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1d0UYyj ) [02:04]
Namworld I'm not even on minimum salary and could live 2x on it. [02:04]
asciilifeform Namworld: how much did your electron microscope cost ? [02:05]
Namworld This document from 2012 seems to say a carton of 200 smokes were ~$77 [02:06]
Namworld So about $10 per pack, yeah [02:06]
Namworld electron microscope? [02:06]
asciilifeform let's rephrase [02:07]
asciilifeform there is 'live' and there is 'exist' [02:07]
asciilifeform so far, what has been described is 'exist' [02:07]
asciilifeform as one does in jail. [02:07]
aabtc Adlai aegis AmbitionzAzARida Anduck Apocalyptic artifexd asciilifeform Asenath assbot Azelphur [02:08]
mircea_popescu check it out! asciilifeform DOES get my original point! [02:08]
mircea_popescu Namworld, copy this man. [02:08]
asciilifeform which one? that jail is waiting? [02:08]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132719 [02:08]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 04:39:14; mircea_popescu: you see what i mean. [02:08]
asciilifeform aha. [02:09]
Namworld Oh... but what's the criterion to be considered living vs existing? [02:09]
mircea_popescu sometimes i think i'm too terse. then i look at the logs and shudder. what's a gal to do! [02:09]
mircea_popescu that's your job Namworld. can't be asking us. (there's even a rule about it!) [02:10]
asciilifeform Namworld: ask mirror ? [02:10]
Namworld I wouldn't consider myself to be merely existing. But it seems as such for you. [02:10]
asciilifeform Namworld: paul erdos, one of the greatest mathematical minds of his century, owned - a suitcase and suit. [02:11]
asciilifeform i dare say, he lived. [02:11]
mircea_popescu always the same one! [02:11]
asciilifeform of course same one [02:11]
* asciilifeform not erdos, but also owns precisely one suit [02:11]
* mircea_popescu is poor, does not even own his own pair of jeans. [02:12]
asciilifeform l0lz [02:12]
Namworld I feel much better having a small living space and more spare money than I can use than having a big place with only crap to put in it and struggling to afford anything but paying for a large living space. [02:12]
mircea_popescu lolz all you wish, but let me tell you something : to anyone i knew in the 80s, "you will never own your own pair of jeans" would have been possibly the worst conceivable curse. [02:12]
asciilifeform 'the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread' (TM) (R) [02:13]
Namworld You're trapped overpaying for a big space. That's the real prison. Small space, you're basically free to do whatever and have the luxury of free time with less stress. [02:14]
mircea_popescu except if the girls start fighting because they're crammed too close together. [02:14]
asciilifeform Namworld: where will you put electron microscope in small space? [02:15]
cazalla Namworld, even a small space cost you 30 years of your life here [02:15]
asciilifeform any idea how much room these need ? [02:15]
mircea_popescu i find the symmetry amusing. [02:15]
asciilifeform or the 3-phase mains [02:15]
asciilifeform you gonna get those in your 1-room flat ? [02:15]
asciilifeform can't even plug in a gantry mill [02:15]
asciilifeform w/out 3-phase [02:15]
asciilifeform srslt. [02:15]
asciilifeform *srsly [02:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform in a time long ago i had a 3 phase washing machine. [02:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: l0l! for elephant ? [02:16]
mircea_popescu for 50-75 kgs dry. [02:16]
cazalla anyway, i thought all you old school bitcoiners were rich as fuck [02:16]
asciilifeform cazalla: who is 'you' [02:17]
asciilifeform cazalla: i own - my shirt. [02:17]
mircea_popescu anyone older than him :D [02:17]
cazalla ha yeah pretty much that ^^^ [02:17]
Namworld Admittedly, if I wanted to use any of these equipments, I'd just study the field and get the funds and lab assigned to me. [02:17]
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asciilifeform Namworld: l0l of the century [02:18]
asciilifeform what was it herr hitler supposedly said, 'any man who likes to shoot guns ought to join the ss' ? [02:18]
Namworld Space is a concern only when you need it. You don't buy a large warehouse building without any plans on how to use it/put it to work. [02:18]
mircea_popescu i do, actually. [02:19]
mircea_popescu only time i ever bought such a thing was off the auction block. had no use for it, but fuck. dat price. [02:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: still have it ? [02:19]
mircea_popescu nah [02:19]
mircea_popescu lol, why do you ask ? [02:20]
asciilifeform idk [02:20]
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asciilifeform pogos? [02:20]
mircea_popescu lmao [02:20]
mircea_popescu would have been great for mining, because metal structure, unheated by default. [02:20]
mircea_popescu but was sadly many years ago [02:20]
asciilifeform great for many things. [02:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, pogos should be geographically distributtsexed. [02:22]
asciilifeform aha [02:23]
asciilifeform so for folks who don't read links, u.s. folk were most of the way to fabricating microscale magnetic circuits, when ic was discovered and entire field evaporated [02:25]
asciilifeform some work continued for rad-hard/far-space applications, but nothing public came of it [02:25]
asciilifeform the only magnetic circuit item that remained in use, for a while, was ferrite ram [02:26]
asciilifeform (and, in past few years, a kind of reborn version of it, 'mram') [02:26]
asciilifeform but certainly no -logic-. [02:26]
mircea_popescu actually afaik the one thing that came out of that field was magnetic bottles, years latr. [02:27]
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asciilifeform magnetic bottles were iirc saharov's idea [02:27]
mircea_popescu yeah [02:27]
asciilifeform and long pre-date all of this [02:27]
mircea_popescu oh ? [02:27]
asciilifeform aha. [02:27]
Namworld Haven't been around in a while, but from lurking every now and then, seems it's a bit slow for assets. There's no longer talk about assets/tons of trade tickers. [02:27]
asciilifeform Namworld: i broke it [02:28]
Namworld Seems most regulars are still there talking at least. [02:28]
asciilifeform or wait, where is 'there' [02:28]
mircea_popescu how long can it all predate it ? sakharov is contemporary with feynman not with bohr [02:29]
asciilifeform pre-dated 'bubble ram' etc. [02:29]
asciilifeform but i'm not entirely clear on how 'magnetic bottle' for keeping charged particules penned in, relates to magnetic logic [02:30]
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mircea_popescu "magnetics" [02:34]
asciilifeform then faraday also. [02:34]
mircea_popescu it's not really big enough to have subfields yet. [02:34]
asciilifeform l0l [02:34]
* asciilifeform wonders what then -is- big enough [02:34]
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mircea_popescu feminism > magnetism. [02:38]
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Namworld Well, this is what living on ~$500 of bills per month looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvW1M9QfDfQ [02:51]
assbot Apartment - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQfFaC ) [02:51]
hanbot is Namworld soft-launching a life coaching business? [02:53]
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Namworld Apparently. Seems by most people's standards, they'd be driven nut by the small space. The space with workdesk/bed/dresser is 5x10 foot [02:55]
hanbot all it needs is atomics, could be submarine. [02:56]
Namworld I didn't consider such a thing. I guess I'd feel confortable even in a submarine/ship. [02:58]
cazalla Namworld, get rid of the cat, savings right there not to mention A+ for no animals living in the house [02:59]
Namworld But I like the cat... [03:00]
cazalla most of the people in here like cats + smokes [03:00]
hanbot confucious sez, cat can save you a meal... [03:01]
Namworld https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2n4YynyTC0 [03:01]
assbot Cat in the Sleeve Hammock - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEqfCM ) [03:01]
Namworld He's tricked me with his cuteness and affective disorder. He's clingy. [03:01]
cazalla meh i hate em, they kill a lot of the natives around here [03:02]
Namworld Kill? [03:02]
Namworld Natives? [03:02]
cazalla local bird life for a start [03:02]
Namworld Well people shouldn't let cats out to hunt... [03:03]
cazalla plus there is the toxoplasmosis thing [03:03]
Namworld No point in having a cat if he's away all day. It's just not doing anything but costing you and being a nuisance to people around. [03:04]
cazalla anyway, be a man and get a dog [03:04]
scoopbot_revived A lunatic with a bloodied axe could be ringing at your door! http://trilema.com/2015/a-lunatic-with-a-bloodied-axe-could-be-ringing-at-your-door/ [03:05]
Namworld Well my cat can play tag, comes at the door running to greet you and gives his paw. I could probably teach him to fetch. [03:06]
Namworld It might be a dog that is disfigured and has bad vocal cords. Might just happen to look like a cat. [03:07]
Namworld The convenience of owning a cat and a dog in one, with all the disadvantages and not quite all the benefits. [03:09]
cazalla but if you're trying to save money, perhaps just eat the cat and reduce not only the cost of feeding it but save extra on a meal or two for yourself [03:10]
Namworld I'm not trying to save money. [03:10]
cazalla i'd bet a cat or dog costs about the same to feed a toddler [03:10]
cazalla my bad then, i assumed your interest in reducing living expenses was so that you could save a bit extra [03:12]
Namworld I'm sure a toddler is more expensive... Cat is like a $20 bag of food for like 2-3 months. And like ~$15 of litter for the same period. So about 10-15 bucks per month. [03:13]
cazalla shot myself in the foot with that one.. if i had said baby though, breast milk being somewhat free and all [03:15]
Namworld I'm not trying to save, I'm going to be upgrading living expenses by $200 per month and have my own bedroom. In a better location nearer downtown in a bigger and better apartment. [03:15]
Namworld It just happened that I ended up with $500 in bills per month, without any effort on my part whatsoever. [03:16]
Namworld I'll be living slightly more expensively within 2 months. [03:17]
Namworld I was just perplexed by single people with no children struggling with minimum salary, which is ~$1400 after taxes. [03:18]
cazalla no doubt they piss a lot of it away but i don't think they are entirely to blame for being on struggle street [03:18]
Namworld It's something that's agreed on by many that you can hardly live on minimum salary. It just feels weird to me. By any sort of standards, it seems minimum salary here is luxury compared to almost everything else. [03:21]
cazalla we have a high minimum wage here (down under) but people still struggle on account of insane cost of living so can't really blame people for indulging a little, not like it's worth their time to save a deposit for a house anyway [03:24]
Namworld Even by US standards. Perhaps not by EU standards. [03:25]
ben_vulpes [04:53] unrelated - anybody read the magnetics links ? << wrapping my head around the microwaves, actually [03:26]
Namworld Cost of rent especially, since it tends to be a big part of budget. Wouldn't want to have to pay rent in San Francisco. [03:26]
Namworld Some cities are expensive... [03:26]
Namworld ok, it's past 2am, I guess I'll log off for now. Getting empty in here. I'm off-topic for the channel too. Shouldn't be rambling late at night. I'll turn senile early. [03:28]
ben_vulpes [05:06] I feel much better having a small living space and more << i miss lathes and mills and welders [03:29]
ben_vulpes i could buy a mini cnc mill and make custom leather embossing dies [03:29]
cazalla i can't articulate it well but i'm sure i've read alf mention it before that it's part of the bezzle.. have you work and paid just enough to cover bills but never enough that you could be free of it within your life time, at least until you're washed up and old [03:29]
Namworld Alf? [03:30]
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cazalla asciilifeform soz [03:30]
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Namworld Ah [03:30]
cazalla plus this idea of down sizing just helps them fit more people in [03:32]
cazalla you end up paying more for less [03:32]
ben_vulpes that is true enough [03:32]
punkman just enough to cover bills < not even that around here [03:32]
ben_vulpes the house i grew up in might retail for ~3x what my parents paid for it, and far more than i'll ever sock away in my lifetime [03:33]
Namworld I feel if you stop bothering about what people think, fitting social expectations, outperforming your neighbors or any such thing. At least in certain places. I suppose it depends on real estate prices. [03:34]
cazalla ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$$ [03:35]
cazalla your average even [03:36]
Namworld The lack of land and bricks is worth a lot of dough. You could be paying a lot of dough at any big corp for fees and terrible services. Inconvenience is costly. What better investment than a overpriced house so you can live inconvenience every day of your life? You save a lot of money that way. [03:40]
mircea_popescu right. so if you pick up a girl what do you do, take her to a motel ? [03:41]
mircea_popescu anyway, hanbot has a point : join a fishing ship / oil rig / something. they'll pay you 5k a month to live in a 50 sq ft space, [03:42]
mircea_popescu instead of youy having to pay 500 [03:42]
Namworld Well, the living space might not bother me, but the inconvenient is you have to do fishing or oil drilling or so on work. [03:44]
mircea_popescu or cook, or w/e. [03:44]
cazalla Namworld, he's talking about working for a living, he's talking about sharkin' [03:45]
Namworld Well cook might be more in my cords. But doing it all day? Seems a bit mind numbing. [03:47]
mircea_popescu http://litecoin.org.es/bitcoin-y-el-estado-benefactor/ << o.O [03:47]
assbot Bitcoin y el “Estado benefactor” | Litecoin España ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMmrOn ) [03:47]
mircea_popescu Namworld so do it for six months, take a year or two off. [03:47]
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cazalla Namworld, shitty job (i did like an unpaid 16 hour shift many years ago) [03:48]
Namworld Always an option. Something to try out. [03:48]
punkman science boat pays a bit less but still quite well [03:48]
cazalla didn't bother coming back for the actual job, working in a kitchen sucks [03:48]
Namworld Well I'm off for real this time. [03:48]
Namworld Goodbye [03:49]
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trinque installing openvas on gentoo with the latest ebuild ends up forcing you to use an old gnutls version [03:56]
trinque the irony [03:56]
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wyrdmantis hello everyone [04:25]
wyrdmantis ;;nethash [04:28]
gribble 368694095.451 [04:28]
mircea_popescu heya [04:29]
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mircea_popescu http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php << o hey, check it out, a db of fucktards [05:07]
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mircea_popescu http://8ch.net/player.php?v=/pol/src/1431529008621.webm&t=Emilybloom.webm&loop=1 << ha! [05:13]
cazalla mircea_popescu, gee you really took the grainy gif insult to heart :P [05:19]
mircea_popescu i love that vid. [05:19]
mircea_popescu fucking bs tv. THAT is what it's supposed to look like. [05:19]
cazalla lose points for mole on the vulva though [05:20]
mircea_popescu i'm not watching any more videos until they conform. [05:20]
mircea_popescu i don't care how it looks. the point is that it's there, none of this "o, she just took the beadspread to the bathroom" bs. [05:20]
mircea_popescu who the fuck even does that. [05:20]
cazalla what? check for vulva moles? [05:22]
mircea_popescu no, takes the breadspread ot the bathroom. [05:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36844 @ 0.00028477 = 10.4921 BTC [+] [05:22]
cazalla lol yeah was just joshing [05:24]
cazalla still, vulva moles.. the lack of vulva symmetry doesn't phase, nice that they all come in different shapes and sizes but.. moley mole [05:28]
mircea_popescu so what of it ? [05:29]
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cazalla can't say i'm a fan.. might try to touch it in a subtle manner to ensure it is a mole lest someone didn't teach the poor girl how to wipe [05:31]
mircea_popescu can prolly have it burned off if you give a shit. [05:31]
* mircea_popescu never got to quite that level of detail specificity. [05:32]
cazalla probably has to pluck big ass mole hairs from it too [05:33]
mircea_popescu yo cazalla, if i give you some candy are you gonna go all junkie and forget your duties to land and king ? [05:34]
cazalla why would you be giving me that [05:35]
cazalla but yes, so i don't eat it [05:36]
cazalla what triggered that, mole talk? [05:37]
mircea_popescu nah. https://8ch.net/btc [05:39]
cazalla blank page? [05:41]
cazalla had some faucet stuff but that's gone after refresh [05:42]
mircea_popescu yeh. [05:43]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fain_visuals_1600px.png << heh, ancient wot-like stuff from my romanian digg thing [05:50]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/globosfera-vizibila/ article about it [05:53]
cazalla reads like spirography with translate [05:55]
cazalla http://dpaste.com/073BPMY.txt [05:55]
mircea_popescu basically it connects users with the other users whose things they voted [05:56]
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cazalla http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-15/pm-confirms-b-1-bombers-not-heading-to-australia/6471528 [06:01]
mircea_popescu eh ? [06:01]
cazalla how the US misspoke about sending bombers and drones over here to watch the chinese with is puzzling [06:02]
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mircea_popescu heh [06:06]
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cazalla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwuR3MvZ6xM [06:36]
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cazalla i wonder if they deliberately make errors so that many people watch to point them out to one another [06:39]
mircea_popescu if they do it failed cuz i dont give a shit >D [07:01]
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mircea_popescu "So as you can probably tell, this board is primarily dedicated to IRL Harems, how to build one, and crucially, how to do so with minimal effort even if NEET and without money. [07:10]
mircea_popescu [07:10]
mircea_popescu A secondary area of interest is how to leverage your Harem to make $$$ and/or how to find a rich girl/woman to marry. [07:10]
mircea_popescu Let the intelligent discussion commence" [07:10]
mircea_popescu https://8ch.net/harem/index.html [07:10]
mircea_popescu clearly, the millennials are on to someshit. [07:10]
cazalla sounds great until i gave it a bit more thought and considered the cost and work involved [07:14]
cazalla harem on welfare though, sounds like baseless advice [07:15]
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mircea_popescu at least in the republican fears, harem on welfare = inner city blacks. [07:17]
mircea_popescu it's not THAT far off from the truth [07:17]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/#comment-114187 << which reminds me, davout do you know who the most famous guy by that name was ? [16:59]
BingoBoingo http://www.wnba.com/news/statement_on_griner_johnson_2015_05_15.html [17:08]
trinque hilarious, the city's named after the company Goodyear [17:11]
mod6 they grow a lot of cotton out there. [17:18]
davout mircea_popescu: tell me [17:22]
mircea_popescu napoleon's general that won the battle of jena for the confused four footer's name was davout. [17:23]
mircea_popescu ;;google Louis Nicolas Davout [17:23]
gribble Louis-Nicolas Davout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Davout & Napoleon - The Napoleon Series: ; Ask MHQ: Why Wasn't Davout at Waterloo? - History Net: [17:23]
davout ah right, i knew this guy's name, but not his story [17:24]
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mircea_popescu in other news http://36.media.tumblr.com/cd2581c62617b5a509994b1e6cd4c4dd/tumblr_nbetwj6JLL1t0bn4lo1_1280.jpg : WOMENZ! WHAY U SO SHORT! [17:28]
davout "He was one of the few commanders in history to never be defeated on the field." <<< yea, sounds about right! [17:33]
mircea_popescu lol. [17:33]
mircea_popescu then again, he didn'y use rails. [17:34]
davout :D [17:34]
davout i'm pretty busy learning C these days [17:35]
davout 'At Jena, Napoleon won a battle he could not lose. At Auerstädt, Davout won a battle he could not win".' [17:37]
davout allright [17:38]
ben_vulpes "the fun, simple, flexible JavaScript test framework" [17:38]
ben_vulpes programming is none of those things, why are you lying to me [17:38]
fluffypony "60% of the time it works every time" [17:39]
williamdunne Flexible could have a solid case [17:39]
ben_vulpes i haven't even visited your web page and already you've lost all credibility with me. [17:39]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [17:39]
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ascii_field snobol on slugs. [17:39]
mircea_popescu fluffypony has it. [17:39]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, fluffypony, your racks buildin business still active ? [17:40]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: yep it is [17:40]
mircea_popescu jurov you got a 728x90 coinbr banner ? [17:40]
mircea_popescu fluffypony wanna advertise on 8chan ? :D [17:40]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: not selling much to consumers anymore, got 1x big fat contract that's still got 17 months on it [17:41]
fluffypony ben_vulpes: just switch to this: http://html9responsiveboilerstrapjs.com [17:41]
mircea_popescu and yeah, re jurov's link : totally, getting "regulated" would deeply benefit bitcoin. it's not like MPEx being put in charge of the US financial markets would be a marked improvement for the us financial markets. o no, it's the other way around dontcha know. [17:41]
ben_vulpes fluffypony: i just broke out laughing [17:41]
williamdunne v0.0001 came with a load of code breaking changes, don't think it will be stable until v0.000115 [17:41]
fluffypony "It works in RubeGoldberg 2.2 but will not autocompile freeway buttmonkey merge svn commitshare javahunk." [17:42]
trinque >Does a bear have regular bowel movements in the cool breeze of a grassy woodland area? [17:42]
fluffypony I've actually used that line when responding to a Ruby developer on Skype who was being dumb [17:42]
trinque LOL [17:42]
joecool check view source [17:43]
jurov no, only 248x50, gotta make one...and can I also push coinroll banner? [17:43]
trinque https://raw.githubusercontent.com/impressivewebs/HTML9-Responsive-Boilerstrap-js/master/js/html9responsiveboilerstrap.js [17:43]
fluffypony the commits are awesome [17:43]
fluffypony https://github.com/impressivewebs/HTML9-Responsive-Boilerstrap-js/commits/master [17:43]
ben_vulpes https://github.com/impressivewebs/HTML9-Responsive-Boilerstrap-js/commit/123e170590a5743d5358486c608096675da7be01 [17:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 3.52635256 BTC to 10`000`000 shares, 35 satoshi per share [17:44]
mircea_popescu !up deedbot- [17:45]
fluffypony "There's a known bug with the IE5 bootloader that's preventing multi-threaded access to the cloud partition. Workaround is to enable JSON override mode and recompile the WSDL. Once you've done that, just deploy the __kernelNode binary to the socket listener, restart the Flash daemon and refresh your browser. That should take care of the error. I know, kind of an annoying hack, but it seems to work." [17:45]
mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3N8RHH7.txt [17:45]
fluffypony "@dmansouri, it worked! THANKSS!!!!!! but now I've lost support for the color blue. :/" [17:45]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [17:45]
trinque mircea_popescu: no need, or shouldn't be [17:45]
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mircea_popescu jurov sure. [17:45]
jurov what are the terms? [17:46]
mircea_popescu ahjahaha COLOR BLUE! [17:46]
mircea_popescu jurov the terms are that you just get it, for now. [17:46]
jurov ok, thanks [17:46]
-assbot- You voiced deedbot- without time-limit. [17:46]
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mircea_popescu that thing with the color blue really brings back memories. [17:47]
mircea_popescu as a poor chitlin in romania, i was stuck on a monitor that was losing yellow for months [17:47]
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williamdunne >If you've just had a baby, try to refrain from referring to the event as a "new product launch". [17:49]
williamdunne << their twitter page is pretty good too https://twitter.com/H9RBSjs [17:49]
mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/2MQECVB.txt [17:50]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [17:50]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: i was stuck on a monitor that was losing yellow for months << l0l! i just picked up a sealed, virginal sony 21" trinitron... [17:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 263.41331311 BTC to 1`000`000`000 shares, 26 satoshi per share [17:50]
mircea_popescu ascii_field o.O [17:51]
davout https://twitter.com/H9RBSjs/status/598514438354903041 [17:51]
mircea_popescu i am slightly jealous [17:51]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: fella has more [17:51]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: if you have a phriend with 'ebay' acct. [17:51]
mircea_popescu how the heck ?! [17:51]
ascii_field no idea how [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225829 @ 0.0002857 = 64.5193 BTC [+] {5} [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21171 @ 0.00028923 = 6.1233 BTC [+] [17:52]
ascii_field 1600x1200 at 90+ Hz [17:55]
ascii_field optically flat, even. [17:55]
williamdunne BitOtter - The Bitcoin Options Trade Tool for MPEx [17:56]
williamdunne Options coming back? [17:56]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133041 << the lol-ziest part is that upon collapse, inhabitants "bought" them from govt, making an eastern europe much socially richer than anyone else in the world. [17:56]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 14:19:08; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132926 << one of the mantras my parents liked to repeat to me was 'in ussr no one owned their home' - mega-l0l, no? [17:56]
mircea_popescu at some point it was > 90% home ownership [17:56]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: didn't last long in ru [17:56]
mircea_popescu williamdunne i think that's just very old. [17:56]
ascii_field folks sold for 'pennies on the dollar' so they could eat. [17:56]
mircea_popescu ascii_field lasted ~15-20 years n ro [17:56]
mircea_popescu at some point there was a bank on every corner FOR THIS REASON [17:57]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Ah, I assumed its new as just saw on twitter for the first time [17:57]
mircea_popescu derps didn't understand they were i nthe business of sorting out their home ownership [17:57]
ascii_field in ru they did a thing called 'shock therapy' - engineered economic rape to dislodge the 'owners' [17:57]
ascii_field see also: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-04-2015#1090204 [17:58]
assbot Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road. [17:58]
ascii_field it was a classic, textbook demo of 'money without power' [17:58]
ascii_field which is not a stable condition, to put it mildly [17:58]
mircea_popescu bout as stable as gasolin [17:58]
ascii_field aha. [17:58]
mircea_popescu someone somewhere's gonna wanna power something. [17:58]
ascii_field i can easily picture a similar opera playing out in usa, after clitler or whoever proclaims a mortgage jubilee, creating 100mil derps who are suddenly 'millionaires' [17:59]
mircea_popescu incidentally, that would be the correct way to handle the us collapse. [18:00]
ascii_field the meat is then harvested as per ru. [18:00]
mircea_popescu since the govt is fucked anyway, just import all the bank balances on ITS books, [18:00]
mircea_popescu then give all the actual real value to people [18:00]
mircea_popescu then die. [18:00]
mircea_popescu it's how the greek's do it. its how ex soviet empire did it. [18:00]
mircea_popescu it's the right way to do this. [18:00]
mircea_popescu definitely NOT the way the us will do it, for that reason. [18:00]
trinque they'll instead do some incomprehensible refinancing thing where nobody wins [18:00]
ascii_field pointing out that in su case this resulted in a very brutal dekulakization ('but at least it wasn't the state doing it') [18:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133044 << amusingly, one of the things in the 2000s romania was, nobody was paying property tax because fuck you [18:02]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 14:19:53; asciilifeform: want to know what you 'own' in usa? try and stop paying the property tax. [18:02]
mircea_popescu govt powerless. but then, peoplidiots wanted into the eu. [18:02]
mircea_popescu govt now not powerless. [18:02]
ascii_field what was eu even for if not for this [18:03]
mircea_popescu myeah [18:03]
mircea_popescu but the derps really really wanted it. [18:03]
mircea_popescu heck, to protect them from russia. [18:03]
mircea_popescu because yeah, totally, the western allies of romania so very protected it from russia historically. [18:03]
mircea_popescu ww1, ww2, whatevs. but what do the derps know. [18:03]
ascii_field l0l [18:04]
BingoBoingo https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/05/11/it-legitimate-pedagogical-tool-art-professor-ask-students-be-nude-one-class [18:04]
mircea_popescu win. [18:04]
mircea_popescu this should have been done long ago. mandatory nudity throughout highschool. [18:04]
mircea_popescu us kids don't fuck anymore anyway. [18:05]
ascii_field not quite accurate [18:05]
ascii_field they don't want to do the necessary chores [18:05]
mircea_popescu "The nude self gesture takes place in complete darkness, and everyone is nude, with only one candle or very small source of light for each individual performance. Each student can select where everyone will be during the performance and where the performance will take in the performance studio -- just as they are able to do for all the performances they do. [18:06]
mircea_popescu scam. [18:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133066 << just hate teh pdfs. [18:07]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 16:28:13; mats: rich has other good stuff on his site if you're into low level exploitation [18:07]
mircea_popescu rich should learn to web. [18:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133070 << can't tell if serious or 3/0 trolling. [18:07]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 16:55:18; whaack: Has anyone tried something similar or know of someone who has? [18:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 196350 @ 0.00028938 = 56.8198 BTC [+] {4} [18:09]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133079 << yeah, never mentioned much somehow, also. [18:31]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 17:10:52; joecool: after which he promptly fell of the face of the earth [18:31]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133107 << the mere fact that it's a form... [18:33]
assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 17:58:47; ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/doug-williams-guilty-plea.pdf << mega-l0l. i, for one, have never seen the 'plead guilty' form, and it is lulzy [18:33]
ben_vulpes http://dpaste.com/2E6ZR0C << nodejs at work [18:33]
ben_vulpes liars. [18:33]
ben_vulpes mother. fucking. liars. [18:33]
williamdunne node makes me cry [18:35]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [18:50]
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ascii_field http://trilema.com/2009/fumez/#comment-114192 << l0l! how come -i- don't get ru spam ?! [18:50]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/05/market-news-roundup/ [18:53]
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BingoBoingo !up pete_dushenski [19:00]
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pete_dushenski thx bb! [19:00]
pete_dushenski on vacay on public wifi atm, but i snuck in some time to organise the '21' convo from the other day into a post. [19:00]
jurov ;;ticker --currency eur [19:00]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [19:00]
jurov ;;ticker [19:01]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.03, Best ask: 237.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 237.1, 24 hour volume: 9075.62309001, 24 hour low: 235.8, 24 hour high: 239.0, 24 hour vwap: None [19:01]
pete_dushenski only to discover that scoopy is sleepy [19:01]
pete_dushenski so... http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/15/21-inc-and-comcast-sitting-in-a-tree-d-e-r-p-i-n-g/ [19:01]
trinque do I have to install the damn tenyks-feeds plugin too :P [19:01]
pete_dushenski also, 50 btc mpex seats ! wawaweewah! [19:02]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeOwMcRO2pU [19:03]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIDHFbjQ93A << english [19:03]
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pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats [19:08]
gribble Current Blocks: 356604 | Current Difficulty: 4.7643398017803444E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 356831 | Next Difficulty In: 227 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 11 hours, 8 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48725175240.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.27057 [19:08]
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* pete_dushenski alrighty, the town beckons. cheers! [19:09]
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jurov http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22[S.BBET]+[PAID]%22 [19:29]
assbot 15 results for '"[S.BBET] [PAID]"' - #bitcoin-assets search [19:29]
jurov kakobrekla mircea_popescu: additional 5mn shares was floated? [19:29]
trinque deedbot-: list feeds [19:29]
deedbot- No feeds. [19:29]
trinque alright I've got an RSS thing now too [19:30]
kakobrekla jurov lol, my guess is mp fucked up again. [19:30]
kakobrekla but hey, at least is not 30mio [19:31]
jurov http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22[S.MPOE]+[PAID]%22 same thing [19:32]
assbot 25 results for '"[S.MPOE] [PAID]"' - #bitcoin-assets search [19:32]
kakobrekla dunno [19:32]
jurov previously he paid half of profit to half of the shares [19:33]
jurov this looks like full profit to full shares, so the outcome is correct [19:33]
trinque deedbot-: add feed http://trilema.com/feed/ [19:34]
deedbot- http://trilema.com/feed/ is a go! [19:34]
trinque deedbot-: add feed http://contravex.com/feed/ [19:34]
deedbot- http://contravex.com/feed/ is a go! [19:34]
jurov i'm looking forward to eulora dividend fuckups, cuz number of shares will actually change as warrants are placed [19:34]
trinque what else should go in there? [19:35]
trinque and if scoopbot comes back, I'll turn it off. [19:35]
deedbot- [Trilema] A lunatic with a bloodied axe could be ringing at your door! - http://trilema.com/2015/a-lunatic-with-a-bloodied-axe-could-be-ringing-at-your-door/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Trilema] New MPEx fee - http://trilema.com/2015/new-mpex-fee/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Trilema] Nature vie avec jeune fille - http://trilema.com/2015/nature-vie-avec-jeune-fille/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Trilema] The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume XI - http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-xi/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Trilema] In which Orwell avoids what he does not wish to see - http://trilema.com/2015/in-which-orwell-avoids-what-he-does-not-wish-to-see/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] 21 Inc. and Comcast sitting in a tree, d-e-r-p-i-n-g. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/15/21-inc-and-comcast-sitting-in-a-tree-d-e-r-p-i-n-g/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Tips and tricks for being a successful (small time) landlord. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/13/tips-and-tricks-for-being-a-successful-small-time-landlord/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Anyone have a single Elbrus ARM-401 for sale? Mebbe a 4.4 Server? It’s for the children. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/12/anyone-have-a-single-elbrus-arm-401-for-sale-mebbe-a-4-4-server-its-for-the-children/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Why did blacks stop caring about respectability and acceptability in USistan ? Because there’s none to be had. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/10/why-did-blacks-stop-caring-about-respectability-and-acceptability-in-usistan-because-theres-none-to-be-had/ [19:35]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Austin Powers : International Man of Mystery - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/10/austin-powers-international-man-of-mystery/ [19:35]
trinque sorry bout that; that should be the last time it does that. [19:35]
jurov rss aggregator to end all aggregators [19:36]
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jurov and does it accept any url for deeds already? [19:38]
trinque jurov: why would I provide an http proxy to arbitrary URLs? [19:39]
trinque what do you want whitelisted? [19:39]
jurov no i mean accepting tthe deeds [19:39]
jurov iirc it did only pastebin [19:40]
trinque does dpaste, pastebin and something else, forgot [19:40]
trinque probably the major annoyance there is not being able to use the HTML link [19:40]
trinque jurov: I don't prefer that systems I mostly leave to run themselves are capable of arbitrary behavior like "pull any URL from anywhere" [19:41]
jurov what's the problem? dpaste does not do screening ot the contents [19:42]
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williamdunne trinque: Scoop'll be back in the not too distant future, probably tomorrow. Possibly Sunday [19:43]
williamdunne This time on an actual server with a cloak [19:43]
trinque williamdunne: do you want to keep running it? the above is on its own server, and the feeds module was already built by vhost- [19:43]
williamdunne I'm fine with it either way, if there is no need there is no need, but seems like it would support decentralization [19:44]
jurov i prefer uploading things to http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201504.txt.asc instead of pasting them somewhere and relying on them to keep sigs intact [19:44]
trinque jurov: sure I'll whitelist that [19:44]
jurov or you're afraid to reveal bot's IP? [19:44]
trinque no, that's in the logs [19:45]
trinque it's a design principle to whitelist behavior I want to permit rather than play blacklist whackamole with all the behavior I don't want [19:45]
jurov then can be deed input from L2 people automatically whitelisted? [19:46]
trinque then somebody gets a 1 "new blood" and has a fun time having it pull down loads of cp [19:47]
trinque why bother [19:47]
trinque just tell me the URLs you want and I'll add them [19:47]
jurov http://explo.yt/public/* [19:47]
trinque you got it [19:47]
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jurov !up vhost your cloak leaks [19:49]
jurov !up vhost- your cloak leaks [19:49]
jurov oh no assbot [19:49]
jurov kakobrekla: ^ [19:50]
trinque jurov: whitelisted [19:50]
jurov thx [19:50]
jurov deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201504.txt.asc [19:50]
deedbot- rejected: 1 [19:50]
jurov lol [19:50]
davout all bots are gone, the one that's left tells you to fuck off [19:52]
davout welcome to #b-a, enjoy your stay [19:53]
jurov oh, since you say [19:53]
davout lol, mine's dead too? [19:53]
jurov on bitcoincharts, b-c is dead [19:53]
jurov and on mpex ofc too but it's normally expired, no? [19:53]
trinque jurov: it does not know that public key [19:54]
trinque hand that over the same way [19:54]
davout i'll have a look at the bitcoincharts stuff [19:54]
trinque davout: lol [19:54]
davout mircea_popescu: pls to x.eur [19:54]
jurov https://github.com/jurov/wot/blob/master/update_gpg.py trinque you can run this every night after kako exports stuff [19:55]
trinque ok [19:55]
jurov but it too, does unprotected plain http intercourse [19:56]
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davout amazing [19:56]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:56]
davout phew [19:56]
trinque jurov: I can actually have the thing poke assbot for the shasum of the wot list [19:57]
trinque so I'll actually verify the thing [19:57]
jurov oh yes, since you have access to irc [19:57]
davout IRC auth is best auth [19:57]
jurov ready [19:57]
trinque jurov: deedbot- is happily munching on those pubkeys, thanks [19:59]
trinque hm, it might be useful to deed-ify the list of key fingerprints periodically [20:01]
jurov kako refused to sign it [20:03]
trinque jurov: try your thing again [20:04]
jurov deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201504.txt.asc [20:04]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [20:04]
jurov yup [20:04]
trinque fancy [20:04]
jurov deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/btcf_201504.txt.asc [20:05]
deedbot- Bad URL or network outage. [20:05]
ben_vulpes .txt [20:05]
ben_vulpes ? [20:05]
trinque lol why does it hate that one [20:05]
trinque hah! [20:05]
jurov no it was sent to btc-dev instead [20:05]
trinque jurov: last one's a 404; he was being honest [20:05]
jurov http://ml.therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html yes it's only here. but i'm not asking poor deedbot to munch this. [20:06]
jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html [20:06]
jurov sorry my internal development url keeps leaking [20:06]
trinque jurov: hm my regex might work fine for that [20:07]
trinque it just looks for the start and end of the pgp message [20:07]
trinque lemme whitelist that [20:07]
jurov kk [20:07]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [20:09]
trinque deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html [20:09]
deedbot- Bad URL or network outage. [20:09]
trinque fu [20:09]
davout ImNotInTheMoodException [20:10]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [20:11]
trinque deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html [20:11]
deedbot- Bad URL or network outage. [20:11]
trinque alright private beatings then that'll work [20:11]
jurov but it will need to decode < > etc. [20:11]
trinque yeah you're right, this is going to be a pain in the dick [20:12]
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* trinque tosses that on the deedbot- requests pile and gets back to work [20:12]
trinque I'll bet what it's actually barfing on is that <pre> on the same line as the beginning of the message [20:13]
trinque but the encoding thing will also have to be accounted for [20:14]
jurov alternatively, the clearsigned text can be easily saved as attachment [20:16]
jurov by $%#! mailman [20:16]
jurov and archived... i don't think it should be deedbot's job [20:17]
trinque jurov: yeah, I'm thinking that'll open up a lot of "message didn't verify due to html encoding fuckery" problems [20:18]
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BingoBoingo ;;later tell mircea_popescu qntra banner http://i.imgur.com/8mYHVc0.png [20:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:21]
asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap down ? [20:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:21]
cazalla is it strange that muh node use to field 40-50 active connections but the past few days tops 100? [20:22]
mircea_popescu mod6 https://8ch.net/btc/index.html << might need a few reloads, but teh republican banners, they're there. [20:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno! [20:22]
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jurov mod6 ben_vulpes asciilifeform why don't we throw out the mailing list and move to 8chan? [20:29]
mircea_popescu srs ? [20:31]
jurov veeeery srs [20:32]
mircea_popescu copypaste is there a way to api the backuping of stuff on 8chan ? [20:36]
copypaste yes [20:36]
copypaste there is for example [20:36]
copypaste https://8ch.net/btc/0.json [20:36]
copypaste this is for the first page of the board [20:36]
copypaste there are also JSON for every thread [20:37]
copypaste (here's the list of threads: https://8ch.net/btc/threads.json ) [20:37]
copypaste and then [20:37]
copypaste https://8ch.net/btc/res/15.json [20:37]
williamdunne My blog has been read so far by a very diverse crowd.. [20:38]
williamdunne https://twitter.com/WilDunne/status/599357049684795393 [20:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00027857 = 12.0621 BTC [+] [20:41]
mircea_popescu williamdunne no women thug lifers ? [20:42]
williamdunne Apparently not [20:42]
williamdunne Sample size of 96 [20:43]
williamdunne Out of like 600 sessions, rest couldn't be determined [20:43]
joecool heh that's a great domain [20:43]
williamdunne " The official currency of The Most Serene Republic" - CopyPaste do you recognize the most serene republic? [20:45]
williamdunne joecool: thethug.life you mean? [20:45]
joecool yeah [20:45]
williamdunne Thought someone had to make use of the gtlds [20:46]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lmao that's just too weird [20:48]
joecool yeah there really are getting to be a lot of random ones... eg: http://poop.bike/ [20:49]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's sound marketing. More bunnies === more clicks [20:49]
mircea_popescu i don't think "the industree" of internet advertising was humiliated nearly as badly b4 [20:49]
BingoBoingo Also when it comes to imageboards, can you really overdo weird? [20:49]
mircea_popescu anyway, it's live [20:50]
BingoBoingo Cool [20:50]
williamdunne joecool: Have you heard of the .sucks one? Its pretty clever. They're charging something like $4k to buy in the pre-order period so that brands will buy it before someone creates yourservice.sucks [20:51]
copypaste williamdunne: What do I need to do to recognize it? [20:51]
williamdunne copypaste: 0.1% tax on all revenues payable [20:52]
williamdunne http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt [20:52]
joecool williamdunne: who is? verisign? [20:52]
mircea_popescu schmucks will prolly pay 4k, too [20:52]
joecool oh some random canadian company [20:53]
williamdunne Vox Populi Registry Ltd [20:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00028462 = 10.5025 BTC [+] [20:54]
williamdunne "Applications for cause marketing (e.g. cancer.sucks), consumer advocacy and customer service." [20:54]
williamdunne How long can the cow be milked for until the udder goes dry? Will it next be .isawful, .robspeople, .killskittens? [20:55]
mircea_popescu .sbabies [20:55]
mircea_popescu domains ending in fuck, kill etc. [20:56]
williamdunne 2,199.00 USD - I stand corrected [20:56]
williamdunne For trademark holders only [20:56]
williamdunne $250 at general availability [20:56]
williamdunne On an unrelated note, is it considered acceptable to have an optional subscribe feature on a blog? [20:57]
williamdunne Or is it incredibly distasteful [20:57]
BingoBoingo Depends how implemented [20:57]
williamdunne Right hand side, for example: [20:58]
williamdunne http://thethug.life/ [20:58]
mircea_popescu what;d it do tho ? like an email based bookmark/rss feed ? [20:59]
mircea_popescu seems a little silly [20:59]
williamdunne Yeah pretty much [21:00]
williamdunne To be perfectly honest the main motivation is knowing who reads my blog [21:00]
joecool i have never subscribed to a blog [21:01]
mircea_popescu you might get a half-complete list of idiots that read your blog, if you care. [21:02]
mircea_popescu i haven't ever subscribed either [21:02]
joecool mircea_popescu: probably mostly bots that subscribe and scrape content [21:02]
mircea_popescu i think in some fields (retarded "make money while you sleep" "webmaster/businessmen" ; "infomercial products" from hyps to herbal whatevers ; etc) it might well work. [21:04]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1048m3cVm1rqclrto1_1280.jpg << ah, those old style heating elements. pretty much every single room in eastern europe / european russia had one of those. EXACTLY like that one. [21:07]
mircea_popescu all the way to the paint. [21:07]
mircea_popescu cast iron, about 2kgs per element. that one's easily 60kgs [21:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114074 @ 0.00027964 = 31.8997 BTC [-] {2} [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165526 @ 0.00027599 = 45.6835 BTC [-] {4} [21:09]
mircea_popescu https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1431734890584.jpg << is this the Namworld household ? [21:24]
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asciilifeform jurov: move to 8chan? << share the lsd ? [21:31]
mircea_popescu the chan of things! [21:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: EXACTLY like that one << my 1st adult flat in usa had one [21:33]
asciilifeform (19th c. house) [21:33]
mircea_popescu aha [21:33]
* asciilifeform recalls the steam heat thread [21:33]
mircea_popescu btw, if anyone feels like making some banners to replace https://8ch.net/static/8chan%20banner.png go right ahead. [21:34]
* asciilifeform still not grasped what, precisely, was the appeal of '8chan' [21:35]
asciilifeform (or the other similar www) [21:35]
asciilifeform from my perch, looks like every other heathen pit [21:35]
mircea_popescu it's like the appeal of boxing. either you grew up with it or it's stupid [21:36]
mircea_popescu copypaste how does the gpg signature thing werk btw ? [21:36]
cazalla what size do the banners need to be [21:36]
copypaste 300x100 is the banner size. [21:37]
copypaste GPG signatures arne't open to the public yet, just me. [21:37]
williamdunne Who is responsible for w.b-a.link? [21:37]
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mircea_popescu https://8ch.net/meta/res/74759.html#74760 << lawl. [21:38]
mircea_popescu copypaste ah ok. any plans to open them ? [21:38]
mircea_popescu cazalla 728x90 for qntra, 300x100 for /btc/ [21:39]
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copypaste Yes, but not immediate plans. When the system is finalized you would be able to upload a key, have it put in the server's keyring, then paste a signed message into the box. You would put the keyID in the email field and it would sign. [21:39]
copypaste That's how I sign. I just haven't implemented the "everyone can put a key" thing yet. [21:40]
mircea_popescu you can prolly steal the assbot/gribble code, depending what you run [21:40]
mircea_popescu iirc gribble runs in python. [21:40]
copypaste PHP [21:40]
mircea_popescu i dun recall there being anything prewritten for that. [21:41]
copypaste The system also would not handle concurrency well, due to the fact that it comes up with the ID by doing ls, then finding the biggest numbered text file in _g and adding one to it. [21:41]
copypaste So, those two problems need to be fixed before everyone can sign. [21:41]
williamdunne copypaste: I've done the everyone can put a key thing before, I can help you with that if you want.. [21:42]
copypaste Sure, there's another problem though - we have 3 servers that run PHP, so I need to sync the keyring across them, hehe. [21:42]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [21:43]
copypaste I manually entered my pubkey into all three servers, but that's not possible for everyone signing... [21:43]
williamdunne Oh.. [21:43]
copypaste Yeah, sorry. :( [21:43]
mircea_popescu how do you handle your concurrency then ? [21:43]
williamdunne The way I handled this was I had a separate server running with the keys [21:44]
copypaste Well that only affects singing. Since I'm the only one that can sign [21:44]
copypaste It's not a problem. [21:44]
williamdunne And then requests were sent between the webservers and that server for things like signing [21:44]
copypaste That's a better idea. I was thinking of just doing an NFS share. [21:44]
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copypaste With the keyring on it. [21:44]
copypaste Fixing the archive is more urgent right now since it has a deadline. [21:44]
copypaste I'll let you know when keys for everyone are available though :) [21:44]
mircea_popescu aha. [21:45]
decimation asciilifeform: I didn't really understand the point of bbs's when I was a kid either [21:45]
mircea_popescu ;;google NFS share [21:45]
gribble NFS - Wikipedia: ; SettingUpNFSHowTo - Community Help Wiki: ; HOW TO: Share Windows Folders by Using Server for NFS: [21:45]
decimation mircea_popescu: nfs is a method of exporting a filesystem over tcp [21:46]
decimation like cifs [21:46]
mircea_popescu aha. [21:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135950 @ 0.00028837 = 39.2039 BTC [+] {3} [21:47]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/status/599142779160109057 << you going BingoBoingo ? :D [21:47]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, maybe eventually. [21:48]
copypaste Why was your Twitter suspended, mircea_popescu? [21:49]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/status/599052089038274560 ajhahaha ok that was pretty good. [21:49]
copypaste I tried to follow you [21:50]
mircea_popescu copypaste i killed some guy. [21:50]
mircea_popescu see http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-me-being-completely-spaced-out/ [21:50]
copypaste I see. [21:50]
trinque deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201504.txt.asc [21:51]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [21:51]
mircea_popescu amusingly enough, a year later he actually is pretty well dead, as far as these things go. [21:51]
copypaste Yep, haven't heard of him in a while. When his buddy Andressen tried to be relevant again everyone just laughed at him until he gave on his hard fork idea. [21:51]
mircea_popescu i kinda miss the old derpage days. used to have a bitcoin jesus, now all we get is some obscure godfather pedo. [21:52]
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copypaste Most of them went out of business. [21:53]
williamdunne Roger Ver isn't dead [21:53]
mircea_popescu so what's he doing, selling wet fireworks ? [21:53]
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williamdunne You'd have to ask him, invested in some okay-ish companies [21:54]
williamdunne Being paid to speak at conferences and such [21:54]
williamdunne Don't think he's ever done much more than that though, has he? Other than a shop or summin [21:56]
mircea_popescu https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3399 ah man, the lulzmine cave-in [21:56]
mircea_popescu williamdunne a lot of posturing originally, also the famous incident of using his blockchain.info credentials to spy on random people. [21:57]
williamdunne Mmm wasn't random, but yeah that wasn't the smartest move [21:58]
williamdunne He seems pretty okay to me, not met him in person but tbh I'd like to [21:58]
copypaste If you want real lulz, read them trying to process payments: https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3415 [21:58]
williamdunne Even if not doing anything that interesting, seems nice enough [21:58]
copypaste Absolutely hopeless, lmao [21:58]
cazalla http://i.imgur.com/0t6LXe6.png muh shitty banner [21:58]
copypaste " [21:58]
copypaste I can't access the tables via psql. Are we running this on a backup? [21:58]
copypaste "No, not running on a backup." [21:59]
mircea_popescu williamdunne we dun have to like/dislike the same people yo. [21:59]
cazalla was gonna title it "local milfs need bitcoin news" or something [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 295429 @ 0.00027439 = 81.0628 BTC [-] {2} [21:59]
williamdunne cazalla: do it [21:59]
mircea_popescu cazalla wait are those she-garza shots ? [21:59]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: I know, doesn't stop it from being discussed [21:59]
cazalla mircea_popescu, lol no just ripped from some porno banner [21:59]
mircea_popescu isn't that too meta ?! [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30492 @ 0.00027358 = 8.342 BTC [-] [22:00]
* assbot gives voice to deedbot- [22:00]
trinque deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201504.txt.asc [22:00]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [22:00]
mircea_popescu !s just did whatever [22:00]
cazalla yeah prob, lemme think it over a bit more [22:00]
* mircea_popescu is kind-of curious who's gonna be the bitcoin warhole. [22:01]
trinque jurov: I dicked it up messing with it and it made a new sqlite db nobody further down the assembly line cared about [22:01]
trinque that'll go out at the hour [22:01]
williamdunne I've got a thang working on my wordpress that'll display my WoT rep, but for some reason w.b-a.link only accepts a connection every hour or so [22:01]
assbot 3 results for 'just did whatever' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=just+did+whatever [22:01]
* assbot gives voice to Adlai [22:02]
ben_vulpes [00:01] http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1048m3cVm1rqclrto1_1280.jpg << ah, those old style heating elements. pretty much every single room in eastern europe / european russia had one of those. EXACTLY like that one. << the one in my boyhood room had a fancy metal box over it! [22:06]
mircea_popescu only-one-heating-element.jpg [22:06]
BingoBoingo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3081890/If-people-beauty-inside-models-world-syndrome-Meet-inspiring-young-woman-genetic-condition-determined-change-face-beauty.html [22:08]
mircea_popescu noty [22:08]
ben_vulpes mwell it wasn't a full armspan, more like half [22:08]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i just meant, apparently the whole world was long ago united by the heating element unicity [22:09]
ben_vulpes steam, the once-universal tech [22:10]
ben_vulpes i've harped on its wondrous properties before [22:10]
trinque oh man, downsy swimsuit pics [22:11]
trinque brutal [22:11]
mircea_popescu "That name might sound familiar to you and that is because that's the imageboard full of suicidal virgins that Zoe Quinn accused of harassing her to try and promote her game. Which was ironic because this led to people trolling a forum full of suicidal people in the name of promoting a game about dealing with depression. Even more funny is the fact that Zoe faked the whole thing for attention after a troll from the CWC [22:13]
mircea_popescu ki forum made a single post about her there" [22:13]
BingoBoingo trinque: Still better than the hamplanets who blame their genetics. i.imgur.com/dl09rDa.png [22:13]
mircea_popescu this has to come back to lizards and the jews doing 9/11 somehow [22:13]
trinque BingoBoingo: ahaha "ham planet" [22:13]
mircea_popescu bwahaha [22:14]
williamdunne If people could see that beauty is on the inside then most of the models in the world would have Down syndrome <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Oh dear jesus. Too dumb to be dicks? [22:14]
trinque inb4 downs sextape [22:14]
mircea_popescu downs sextrape [22:15]
williamdunne Going downs on stepdad 3 [22:16]
mircea_popescu ahahaha ow shit lmao [22:16]
trinque !b 5 [22:16]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2958KRQ.txt ) [22:16]
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williamdunne http://thethug.life/reputation/ [22:22]
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mircea_popescu https://encyclopediadramatica.se/M00t's_GamerGate_Sellout << check it out, anjiecast leads ed article on 4chan gamergate something something. [22:23]
ben_vulpes ;;seen princessnell [22:24]
gribble princessnell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 31 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 36 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: oh the andreas vid [22:24]
ben_vulpes !rated princessnell [22:24]
assbot You rated user princessnell on 12-Jun-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: coulda been a contender.. [22:24]
ben_vulpes ;;rated princessnell [22:24]
gribble You rated user princessnell on Thu Jun 12 02:00:30 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: first princess of bitcoin. [22:24]
ben_vulpes ;;rate princessnell 1 coulda been a contender... [22:24]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [22:24]
ben_vulpes ah right [22:24]
ben_vulpes ;;eauth ben_vulpes [22:25]
gribble Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~benkay@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA [22:25]
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ben_vulpes ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:37497d8d9e14489bc7b139047464ad7b6c23367f30dbd8fd4435768d [22:25]
gribble You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA [22:25]
ben_vulpes ;;rate princessnell 1 coulda been a contender... [22:25]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user princessnell has changed from 2 to 1. [22:25]
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williamdunne Some redditor seems to have outsourced their insults.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DggAXSv53Qc&feature=youtu.be [22:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79961 @ 0.00029014 = 23.1999 BTC [+] [22:33]
BingoBoingo So, 11 year plan on track still. Did pushups today until I couldn't a few times and then wrapped my hands and practiced jabs on the locust tree outback (Iron pole idea did not last very long in practice) [22:39]
williamdunne Find a friend and beat the shit out of each other [22:40]
williamdunne Also, what on earth is this.. [22:40]
williamdunne https://twitter.com/BTCarchitect/status/599338347602026496 [22:40]
mircea_popescu the word is attention whoring. [22:42]
BingoBoingo williamdunne: I think you underestimate the challenge of getting my chainsmoking, heavy drinking ass into shape for that step. [22:42]
mircea_popescu you know, like how women name their ugly spawn "obama" or w/e [22:42]
williamdunne BingoBoingo: Easier than it sounds if you have an equally unhealthy friend [22:43]
BingoBoingo williamdunne: That kind tend to be averse to the idea of being punched though. [22:43]
ben_vulpes oh pete_dushenski wasn't kidding about the mpex hike [22:43]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: I'm really just trying to work out how a bent triangle relates to bitcoin [22:44]
williamdunne BingoBoingo: Get em' drunk first? Maybe that goes against the point of getting healthy [22:44]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Of course he wasn't didn;t you read the qntra today [22:44]
mircea_popescu through the "author"s misplaced expectation that making such a claim will promote his production [22:44]
BingoBoingo williamdunne: That sounds like a great way to get sued for all of the nothing I have. [22:45]
williamdunne BingoBoingo: If your friends would sue you for that you need to get better friends [22:46]
ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: scoop's down! how'm i to know [22:47]
BingoBoingo williamdunne: Sure, but you forget that while drunk it is easy to make best friends [22:47]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: I check for scoop, I drop linkies [22:47]
williamdunne Assbot has temporarily taken over scoop functions [22:47]
trinque neh deedbot- did, and I was mostly just seeing if the feeds plugin worked [22:48]
williamdunne *deedbot [22:48]
williamdunne Ah okay [22:48]
williamdunne Well as said, once my pay comes in tomorrow I'll stick scoop up on a server [22:48]
mircea_popescu so wait is deedbot scooping now ? [22:48]
trinque mircea_popescu: I added trilema and contravex, and yeah I think it's working [22:49]
mircea_popescu williamdunne you can have a cpanel acct if it helps you [22:49]
trinque barfed out the last five of each [22:49]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Thanks but no thanks, compiled code [22:49]
BingoBoingo Wow, the cpissel rejectionism here [22:50]
mircea_popescu :D [22:50]
* mircea_popescu is kinda too lazy to set up a different server sharing scheme [22:50]
williamdunne BingoBoingo: I attended a college for a short while, I was recording all of my work on a cpanel server. Had about a years worth of stuff on it when it fucked up [22:51]
trinque imagine, nerds: there are people who don't enjoy setting up servers like it's their cherished train set [22:51]
trinque lol [22:51]
BingoBoingo Eh, cpanel's kinda the shared server standard [22:51]
williamdunne The biggest problem with shared servers is that so often they are ridiculously underpowered and its hard to tell before you do so [22:52]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3GCHCR9 << this is pretty lulzy. reads just like the glbse thing to me. [22:52]
BingoBoingo trinque: Then what are man and /etc/ for? [22:52]
williamdunne Not to mention 300 malware sites sharing your IP [22:52]
mircea_popescu so 4chan is a gawker subsidiary now ? [22:52]
trinque BingoBoingo: I "bashops" but there's no excuse for not having something whereby you can make configuration something you bundle and give a name, reuse [22:52]
williamdunne DigitalOcean however lets you stick up a cheap ass VPS for what, $5 a month and you can auto setup wordpress. If you can't work out how to do the initial basic step with SSH you have no business running a website [22:53]
BingoBoingo trinque: Sure there is, it is called a /etc/ fileset [22:53]
trinque yeah that sucks ass; we have way better tools for code [22:53]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Lesser than that. [22:53]
mircea_popescu well no, because gawker being broke obviously there's nowhere less to go. [22:54]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Halfchan is now a gawker intern subsidiary [22:54]
ben_vulpes http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/05/wolf-richter-why-the-heck-is-the-trucking-business-slowing-down.html [22:54]
mircea_popescu lol ok ok [22:54]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes meth getting to expensive ? [22:54]
* ben_vulpes wouldn't know, is on an apparently decade-long hiatus from atomderping [22:54]
mircea_popescu [9/18/14 12:08 AM] moot: This meeting is one of the most important we've ever had, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE HERE [22:55]
mircea_popescu top kek [22:55]
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mircea_popescu ahahah moot got petrified because... cracked sent him an email ? [23:00]
mircea_popescu who gives an everloving fuck about cracked. i don't even answer their emails. [23:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79358 @ 0.00027358 = 21.7108 BTC [-] [23:01]
mircea_popescu they can show up in here like the sec and everyone else. [23:01]
BingoBoingo WTF would cracked even email about [23:02]
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mircea_popescu i dun read them, either. [23:03]
* mircea_popescu off to eat [23:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89300 @ 0.00027089 = 24.1905 BTC [-] {3} [23:05]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2015#1133634 << it's more related to folks with mania washing hands 17 times in a row [23:10]
assbot Logged on 16-05-2015 01:47:03; trinque: imagine, nerds: there are people who don't enjoy setting up servers like it's their cherished train set [23:10]
* asciilifeform does not suffer from either affliction, is in fact almost terminally lazy [23:10]
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trinque /etc is abominable suck, akin to every shitty scripting language coming up with their unique snowflake of syntax for the same things [23:16]
trinque makes it absolutely impossible to interrogate it for 'everything which makes reference to the hostname db.foo.baz' [23:17]
trinque when I say everything I mean "what are the services which will care about this change" not "what config files have this string" [23:20]
trinque maybe you want to reload those services after changing the db they use [23:21]
trinque trivial query over relational data [23:21]
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BingoBoingo Maybe nothing material unless you are rebuilding the whole machine? DB's are just slaves with more shit in their linen [23:36]
trinque they're slaves which are very careful with their tasks, and which save their masters the trouble of repeating trivialities needlessly [23:38]
trinque as it stands my email program has to have logic about 'what if I didn't open an e-mail' [23:38]
trinque wouldn't it be nice to simply declare the structure of an e-mail, and know that anything acting upon anything which claims to be an e-mail is going to be of a given structure? [23:41]
trinque furthermore the separation of the data from any particular program allows many programs to all diddle the same data happily in concert [23:41]
trinque seems entirely called-for in systems programming [23:41]
mod6 ~<+mircea_popescu> mod6 https://8ch.net/btc/index.html << might need a few reloads, but teh republican banners, they're there. << hey thanks! they look great! :] [23:42]
williamdunne https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1431684583530.jpg [23:43]
mod6 <+jurov> mod6 ben_vulpes asciilifeform why don't we throw out the mailing list and move to 8chan? <+asciilifeform> jurov: move to 8chan? << share the lsd ? << as much as the turdolator has been a pain for jurov, I've kinda grown fond of it. however, I'm open to discuss it a bit if we can figure out a scheme inwhich it would work. mainly, ive just never been very into bbs. [23:43]
mats today i bought an iphone 5s to hack on [23:44]
mats am excite [23:44]
asciilifeform i emphatically disagree with anything which allows unsigned crud from unknowns [23:44]
asciilifeform for purposes of therealbitcoin [23:44]
asciilifeform but i'm not the mod [23:44]
mod6 yeah, im not sure how we'd block posts from people like we do with mailman [23:44]
asciilifeform the l2 thing is the one true filter. [23:45]
mod6 ^ [23:45]
asciilifeform it obsoletes all other spam filtration and membership mechanisms [23:45]
asciilifeform and i am also not clear on why we would want to move from a box adminned by an l1 man in good standing to some random thing shared with a million bozos [23:45]
asciilifeform but again i'm not therealbitcoin. if mod6 and ben_vulpes wish to move to 4chan, 8chan, 4096chan - up to them [23:46]
asciilifeform (though i'd really enjoy hearing some rationale as to why they did this) [23:46]
mats lol [23:46]
mod6 haha, agree. and like i said `if we can figure out a scheme inwhich it would work', and that would imply that it would have to somehow work better than what currently ``works''. [23:47]
mod6 so, basically, no. i'd like to keep our current ramshackle. [23:48]
* asciilifeform gives up the would-have-been-very-spiffy fanless 486 he bought, for dead. no output on any port. damnation. [23:48]
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mod6 you're not just going to re solder all the outputs? [23:49]
asciilifeform unless vendor lied, it's likely been cracked (in pcb) in shipping [23:49]
mod6 ah :/ [23:50]
asciilifeform woulda been a nifty thing - 12 inch across, square, solid steel case, 1 isa slot, no fans. [23:50]
asciilifeform fucking fans. been searching for a fanless 486 for years. [23:50]
asciilifeform (properly fanless, incl. power block) [23:50]
mod6 hmm, i had a PB back in like 94 that was like a P1 -- had heatsink only. might have had a case fan tho. [23:51]
asciilifeform most 486 lacked cpu fan [23:51]
asciilifeform but had case and ps fans [23:51]
asciilifeform (and were quite large physically.) [23:52]
mod6 back then they built that stuff to last. [23:53]
asciilifeform shipping, apparently, kills even it. [23:53]
mod6 well.. the disks didn't usually fair so well, but. yeah. [23:53]
asciilifeform no disk in this one [23:53]
asciilifeform solid-state (yes, rare) on mb [23:53]
asciilifeform all 4mb of it [23:53]
mod6 huh. yeah, maybe you got scammed? [23:54]
asciilifeform not impossible [23:54]
asciilifeform fella has other machines just like it for sale. and takes returns [23:54]
mod6 ah, yea. send it back, get yourself a working relic. [23:55]
asciilifeform fool shipped this 'relic' in a thin cardboard box scarcely larger than machine, via usps. [23:56]
asciilifeform hence brick. [23:56]
BingoBoingo shipping, apparently, kills even it. << As time goes on this issue will continue to become problematic as boards become more brittle [23:56]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i was told by dks in no uncertain terms that lisp machine can never be mailed. [23:56]
BingoBoingo fool shipped this 'relic' in a thin cardboard box scarcely larger than machine, via usps. << What the fuck [23:56]
mod6 oh no. yeah, it was probably thrown up and down, left and right. gotta have a solid box & styrofoam enclosures. [23:57]
asciilifeform (at one point, he was willing to crate'em up for a princely sum, and ship. but after several DOA he quit.) [23:57]
BingoBoingo I get the 486 isn't quite a rarity yet, but damn [23:57]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: -this one- is a rarity [23:57]
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asciilifeform fanless and 12x12x2inch. [23:57]
BingoBoingo Ah [23:58]
mod6 asciilifeform is gonna be like the guy in cryptonomicon who has the technology museum [23:58]
asciilifeform mod6: i don't collect antiques for the sake of antiques [23:58]
asciilifeform what i own - i use (or at least, did once use) [23:58]
asciilifeform (the lisp machine, will probably feature in my peine forte et dure) [23:59]
mod6 just as a pre-lizard-hitler fabrication that still works kinda thing? [23:59]
asciilifeform no [23:59]
asciilifeform for specific purposes [23:59]
mod6 cool [23:59]
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