Forum logs for 15 May 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-] [00:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2} [00:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.434 = 1.736 BTC [-] {2} [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00422006 = 0.3587 BTC [-] {2} [00:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139999 = 0.942 BTC [+] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00100069 = 8.3057 BTC [+] [00:15]
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thestringpuller ;;later tell bitcoinpete how come my gravatar isn't working? what did I mess up? [00:23]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0905 = 0.181 BTC [+] {2} [00:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+] [00:28]
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thestringpuller ;;calc 8.5 * 5 [00:41]
gribble 42.5 [00:41]
thestringpuller ;;calc 168 - 42.5 [00:42]
gribble 125.5 [00:42]
thestringpuller ;;calc 125.5 / 7 [00:42]
gribble 17.9285714286 [00:42]
benkay fluffypony> mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go? // uuhauahauauhauhuahuahunooooooooooo [00:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+] [01:00]
thestringpuller puppet?!?!? [01:01]
thestringpuller benkay go make some vm's [01:01]
thestringpuller lol [01:01]
thestringpuller jkjk [01:01]
thestringpuller <3 [01:01]
fluffypony thestringpuller: he was quoting me, he's too cool for puppet:) [01:02]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [01:13]
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-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [01:13]
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fluffypony benkay: we'll go with cool [01:14]
mircea_popescu so adding to the delights of weird shit happening to me, today... i got flooded. [01:14]
fluffypony or hipster if you'd prefer [01:14]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: like water flooded or IRC flooded? [01:14]
mircea_popescu water flooded [01:14]
fluffypony dang [01:14]
mircea_popescu rainfal was 150mm easy [01:14]
mircea_popescu artifexd ty fixt. [01:17]
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mircea_popescu !up Folichon- [01:17]
-assbot- You voiced Folichon- for 30 minutes. [01:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [-] [01:28]
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kakobrekla artifexd you might take out 'New' out of the strings, since the thing is never 'old' [01:29]
mircea_popescu http://www.opiniatimisoarei.ro/wp-content/gallery/inundatii-timisoara-2/inundatii-timisoara-ploaie-torentiala-4.jpg < sort of idea. [01:31]
mircea_popescu that was afternoon. [01:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.075 = 0.825 BTC [+] [01:33]
mircea_popescu and, of course, http://www.renasterea.ro/images/stiri/ploaie_vara-28622.jpg [01:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.07462678 = 3.0597 BTC [-] {3} [01:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07397821 = 2.9591 BTC [-] [01:37]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell thickasthieves who the fuck waits for hotel checkins, srsly. [01:39]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:39]
mircea_popescu bounce my understanding is that various govts/the bureaucratic interest are pushing to block or if not possible tightly control all shipments of precious metals among any independent entities, traders or not. [01:42]
mircea_popescu this under the guise of the usual methods, falsely accusing these of "breaking the law", or fail that, "being racist" [01:42]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1206333552/twit.jpg [01:44]
mircea_popescu this twit has opinions on what bitcoin needs and its image. [01:44]
mircea_popescu dude, seriously, why is every two bit stripper claiming to be working "in the press" ? [01:44]
kakobrekla <[]bot> New bet placed: 26 BTC for no on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (http://bitbet.us/bet/786/)". Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1085.51619404 BTC. Current weight: 82,303 [01:47]
kakobrekla some bettor woke up [01:47]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b140 [01:47]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1007.93 B (93%) on Yes, 77.59 B (7%) on No | closing in 9 months 6 days | weight: 82`298 (100`000 to 1) [01:47]
mircea_popescu o look at that it's starting to move [01:47]
mircea_popescu damn. [01:47]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla y u no slower! [01:47]
mircea_popescu and where is this bet ? [01:48]
mircea_popescu this bot* [01:48]
kakobrekla dont you read ze logs [01:48]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2014#675235 [01:48]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [01:48]
mircea_popescu i'm behind [01:48]
mircea_popescu because water. [01:48]
mircea_popescu http://pando.com/2014/05/14/sorry-america-the-ukraine-isnt-all-about-you/ [01:50]
assbot Sorry America, the Ukraine isn’t all about you | PandoDaily [01:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00100216 = 18.9408 BTC [+] {2} [01:52]
mircea_popescu Catherine Rampell @crampell · 2h Over a lifetime, average US college graduate will earn at least $800,000 more than the average high school graduate http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/05/us-usa-fed-college-idUSBREA440KD20140505 [01:54]
mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu · now @crampell That lifetime started in 1960 and ended in 2005. The next lifetime will be quite distinct. Fight the present, not the previous war [01:54]
assbot Skip college, forfeit $800,000: Fed study| Reuters [01:54]
mircea_popescu such herpetology. [01:54]
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mircea_popescu http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/ [01:57]
assbot Linux gets fix for code-execution flaw that was undetected since 2009 | Ars Technica [01:57]
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mircea_popescu ll/pp/qq are dne [01:59]
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mircea_popescu bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day << in their own little koi pond where bitpay is the largest best first company and us side vcs matter, they can do whatever the hell they want, up to and including a plastic version of bitcoin to go with the plastic version of a steak. [02:05]
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mircea_popescu you didn't expect the dead to actually embrace their death, did you ? ever sent a teenager upstairs to clean up their room ? [02:06]
mircea_popescu of fucking course they'll be back on the gamestation half hour later swearing up and down that they have, and the disorder apparent is just their implementaiton of order. [02:06]
benkay can't wait to deploy my war face against that [02:07]
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mircea_popescu benkay gotta talk to a woman about that, i can't help you :D [02:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00100305 = 0.6018 BTC [+] [02:10]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/14/first-largest-bestest-ever-in-the-us/ << this guy's enthusiastic. [02:10]
assbot First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete [02:10]
mircea_popescu o hey artifexd, nice bet [02:10]
mircea_popescu bot* [02:10]
mircea_popescu mind adding it in here with a special rule to only dump bets > 1btc ? [02:10]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: I don't get the Ohio thing << ohio is the shithole state. i used it as a metaphorical derogatory, to help the guy understand that his vc circuit is a bit player in bitcoin. [02:13]
fluffypony got it [02:14]
mircea_popescu assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg << "we forgot to mention that mp said this in his mpoe reports for february. it just occurred to us, just like that, out of the depths of our ramen fed brainz." [02:15]
mircea_popescu gotta love teh press. [02:15]
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mircea_popescu god i hated the jetsons. that and scooby doo, worst fucking cartoons in the history of cartoons. [02:16]
mircea_popescu artifexd: http://bitbet.us/bet/846/ <- first time I've seen a bet before the initial two bets were placed. << that's the sign by which you know a zeroconf. [02:17]
assbot BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0.04 B (40%) on Yes, 0.06 B (60%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`917 (100`000 to 1) [02:17]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: any posting a banable offense << i thought this forum already existed ? i haven't posted in it since 2011 [02:18]
mircea_popescu http://linux.fe.up.pt/portal/aggregator/sources/2 [02:21]
assbot Ubuntu Security Notices | Linux FEUP [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00099724 = 8.1774 BTC [-] {2} [02:21]
mircea_popescu the epic just piles on. [02:21]
mircea_popescu Ilja van Sprundel discovered that libXfont incorrectly handled font [02:21]
mircea_popescu metadata file parsing. A local attacker could use this issue to cause [02:21]
mircea_popescu libXfont to crash, or possibly execute arbitrary code in order to gain [02:21]
mircea_popescu privileges. [02:21]
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punkman WEBFONTS!!!11! [02:23]
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mircea_popescu win. [02:23]
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mircea_popescu o look at that, i'm all caught up with logs. [02:24]
mircea_popescu i accomplished so much today. [02:24]
fluffypony well done [02:24]
punkman I think I might grab one of these for airgappin https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware [02:24]
assbot A10-OLinuXino-LIME - Open Source Hardware Board [02:25]
fluffypony hand shakes all round [02:25]
fluffypony mircea_popescu question [02:25]
fluffypony you use AN0 for S.MG right [02:25]
fluffypony why not for S.MPOE and S.NSA? [02:25]
fluffypony sorry S.BBET not S.NSA [02:25]
mircea_popescu Or that more attractive people are judged as more trustworthy, or they arguments they give as more intelligent. << this is actually not that bad a bias. [02:25]
mircea_popescu fluffypony cause those existed pre an0 basically [02:25]
punkman mircea_popescu: how is it a good bias? [02:26]
fluffypony I know that, but lately I've been reading the AN0 overview over and over again to be able to use it, and you said that in 2014 it would become compulsory for all assets on mpex? [02:26]
mircea_popescu punkman beauty is simply a sign of good quality genetics. all things equal, beautiful people are more likely to be intelligent than ugly people. [02:27]
mircea_popescu fluffypony yeah. except mpoe is incorporated as a zero asset corp, and bitbet may be migrated, once i have some time to dick with that. [02:28]
fluffypony kk [02:28]
mircea_popescu so far it's ambiguously either of the two, and a bunch of other stuff needs reviewing about it [02:28]
fluffypony I like the format, definitely more elegant than the way MPOE reports atm, for instance [02:29]
mircea_popescu certainly lengthier, for no clear benefit [02:29]
fluffypony in MPOE's case yes [02:29]
mircea_popescu right. [02:30]
fluffypony oh btw [02:30]
fluffypony the subject of "seats" came up on -otc today [02:30]
mircea_popescu one of the issues with bitbet is how exactly the bets will be treated [02:30]
mircea_popescu aha ? [02:30]
fluffypony and I did some reading on the NYSE [02:30]
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fluffypony fascinating stuff [02:30]
mircea_popescu right. [02:30]
fluffypony and holy shit were those seats expesnive [02:30]
fluffypony *expensive [02:31]
fluffypony even now that they've gone to a yearly "license" model [02:31]
fluffypony it's still $40k a year [02:31]
fluffypony vs. ~$13k once off for MPEX [02:31]
mike_c hah. 40k a year is expensive? :) [02:31]
mircea_popescu imo they cheapened it into the dirt [02:31]
fluffypony mike_c: not the post-2005 model, the fixed seats model [02:31]
mircea_popescu hardly worth having one (and the people that had them back in the day are pissed at nyse for it) [02:31]
mircea_popescu the collapse of the us is made of little pukes like that. [02:32]
fluffypony mike_c: they had 1366 seats total, fixed and you couldn't get more [02:32]
mike_c 40k is like 25% of the cost of 1 engineer [02:32]
mircea_popescu lose a bunch of smart traders in the wtc, piss off everyone with a populist nyse franchise, [02:32]
mircea_popescu stuff like that [02:32]
fluffypony "The most expensive inflation-adjusted seat was sold in 1929 for $625,000, which, today, would be over six million dollars. In recent times, seats have sold for as high as $4 million in the late 1990s and as low as $1 million in 2001." [02:32]
BCB mircea_popescu, when did you get banned from BCT [02:33]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: it's quite funny - the Twitter exchange earlier led me to stumbling across MPEX's AngelList profile around the same time as the conversation in -otc [02:34]
mircea_popescu generally speaking, any move you take to make anything more accessible, makes it shittier. in general, by a larger % than the gain of accessibility. [02:34]
mircea_popescu BCB what's bct ? [02:34]
BCB Bitcoin Talk [02:34]
fluffypony and on AngelList it says "The NYSE of Bitcoin" or something [02:34]
mircea_popescu fluffypony nobody can say they didn't have a fair chance. they blew it, tho. [02:34]
fluffypony which makes sense [02:34]
fluffypony vs. BitcoinBourse that say they want to be "the Wall Street of Bitcoin" [02:34]
fluffypony clearly misunderstanding wtf Wall Street is [02:34]
mircea_popescu and i'll delight in punishing all the vcs with it in the years to come. "here. this was your job. this was your job that you didn't do. because you suck. because you're inept. because you can't do your job. like children. look how stupid you were. you still are." [02:35]
mircea_popescu yeah well, they're limited by what they see on cereal cartons. [02:35]
fluffypony BCB: hanbot is banned, mircea_popescu isn't [02:35]
BCB who is hanbot [02:35]
fluffypony MPOE-PR [02:35]
mircea_popescu BCB do you mean https://bitcointa.lk/threads/maged-permabanned-mpoe-pr-because-she-swore-shock.292615/ ? [02:35]
BCB fluffypony, does she have a chaturbate account [02:36]
assbot Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | Bitcointa.lk [02:36]
mike_c not to defend the vc's. but currently the best VC's are priced out of bitcoin companies. what startup are they going to put serious money into? not many choices. [02:36]
fluffypony BCB: doubt it :-P [02:36]
fluffypony mike_c: obviously Bitpay because biggest and best and largest [02:36]
mike_c and even that wasn't that big [02:36]
BCB swore shock?? [02:36]
mircea_popescu mike_c which is, exactly, http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ [02:37]
assbot The future of Bitcoin regulation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:37]
mircea_popescu who the fuck told them to come a year too late ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu why didn't they read trilema april 2013 and execute THAT WEEK ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu what is this shit, i give orders and they disobey ? because why ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu of fucking course you'll be priced out of what trilema tells you to do in april 2013 if you wait till april 2014. if you weren't priced out that'd mean trilema sucks. [02:38]
mircea_popescu it doesn't. [02:38]
mircea_popescu "This is possibly the last chance to take those piles of fundamentally worthless US dollars and use them for something with any sort of future value.", the man said. [02:38]
mike_c hehe. well, when things heat up another order of magnitude they will start writing checks like it's going out of style. even if it is too late. [02:39]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:39]
fluffypony what is humorous are the people bitching about 30 BTC per seat when that was $600 [02:39]
mircea_popescu and i'll be all http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2014#675569 [02:39]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:39]
mircea_popescu fluffypony it was free for a whole month. [02:39]
mircea_popescu all the shits-for-brains on the forum knew better. [02:39]
mircea_popescu then it was 20 btc, when btc was $5 [02:39]
fluffypony yeah, long before my time unfortunately [02:39]
mircea_popescu all the shits for brains knew better. [02:39]
mircea_popescu etc. [02:39]
fluffypony iz ok, I still have jurov to hook me up [02:40]
mike_c ;;calc (30 * [ticker --last]) [02:40]
gribble 13339.5 [02:40]
mike_c ^ way less then 40k a year [02:40]
mircea_popescu mike_c was as high as nyse, practically. back when btc went over 1200 [02:40]
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fluffypony mike_c: and really not a bad price if you're institutional [02:40]
fluffypony even if you're just toe-dipping into BTC [02:41]
mike_c i don't think it's ever been a bad price. best time to buy a mpex seat is today. [02:41]
mircea_popescu pankkake http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/06/bitcointalk-always-retarded/ << you need to write more words. spell things out. [02:41]
assbot Bitcointalk, always retarded | pankkake [02:41]
mircea_popescu mike_c you must agree i know how to price. [02:41]
fluffypony I think it's out of my league, not entirely from a price perspective but more from a "what would I do with it" perspective [02:41]
mircea_popescu kinda funny for someone with 0 days experience in sales/product. [02:42]
fluffypony I'm too casual an investor to make it work for me [02:42]
mod6 buy & hold? [02:42]
mircea_popescu fluffypony if you think about it, nyse has 1.5k seats or so, and perhaps 150mn diff people ever traded on it. [02:42]
mircea_popescu that'd be 1 in 100k. [02:42]
fluffypony mod6: I can do that through coinbr tho [02:42]
mircea_popescu but yes, unless your portofolio is > 1k btc, you don't really need a seat imo. [02:43]
fluffypony yeah that's the thing [02:43]
mircea_popescu !jd mpif [02:43]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.65235181 BTC; +0.28620048 BTC (+0.1741%) since last check 1d 23h 28m 22s ago. [02:43]
fluffypony maybe possibly if I stumbled into the knowledge / time / inclination to run a brokerage it would be worthwhile [02:43]
fluffypony but otherwise my portfolio is too small fry to justify it [02:43]
mircea_popescu srsly, who still has a forum account ? [02:44]
mircea_popescu tell phinn gage to come over. [02:44]
fluffypony mod6: oh wait - did you mean buy the seat and hold it, not buy the seat and then buy shares and hold them? [02:44]
mod6 naw, just the latter. [02:44]
jurov someone figured out how to trade gpg privkeys? [02:44]
fluffypony ah ok [02:44]
mod6 forgot about coinbr. lol, sorry jurov :) [02:45]
mircea_popescu pankkake you seriously claim to have seen most porn in existence ?! [02:45]
mircea_popescu how is that even possible, i'd guess even excluding cams and amateur shit, there's well over 1mn hours floating around. [02:45]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 24 * 365 [02:46]
gribble 8760 [02:46]
mircea_popescu even if nonstop... 100 years ? [02:46]
jurov he's watching it 10x faster on 10 monitors [02:46]
mod6 lol, all on FF [02:46]
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mircea_popescu lmao [02:47]
mircea_popescu i mean he could say he's seen most GIRLS that ever shot more than a few tests [02:47]
mircea_popescu i know guys with similar performance [02:48]
mircea_popescu well... gals, mostly, but anyway. [02:48]
fluffypony bed time noa, night all [02:50]
mircea_popescu dear channel, i have a question. [02:50]
mircea_popescu chick that's not been allowed to wear pants for 5 years now or something, tried on one of my pairs for fun. she looked incredibly hot in them. [02:50]
mircea_popescu am i gay ? [02:50]
BCB are you gay? [02:51]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust bcb [02:51]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask BCB!~BCB@unaffiliated/bcb. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bcb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 9 via 12 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bcb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bcb | Rated since: Thu Sep 20 19:03:51 2012 [02:51]
mircea_popescu plz to be seriously. [02:52]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: you need someone with a proper gaydar to tell you [02:52]
kakobrekla the answer is: no its european? [02:52]
mircea_popescu who got a gaydar [02:52]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol [02:52]
mircea_popescu i bet ascii got a gaydar. [02:52]
fluffypony lol [02:52]
mircea_popescu he's got every other gadget in his 400 sq feet of "living" space [02:52]
BCB That beard is very gay. [02:53]
fluffypony ok gone for reals noa, bye [02:53]
mircea_popescu beards are manly. [02:53]
mod6 ^^ [02:53]
BCB vv [02:53]
kakobrekla >> [02:54]
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kakobrekla like pankkake porn [02:54]
mod6 haha [02:54]
mircea_popescu lol [02:54]
mircea_popescu check that out, all the olschool cats trust BCB [02:54]
kakobrekla ;;rated bcb [02:54]
gribble You have not yet rated user bcb [02:54]
BCB mircea_popescu, not pirateat40 [02:55]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla omfg, look at that, 1k trust. we are x.x [02:55]
mircea_popescu BCB what do you do, paypal arbitrage basically ? [02:55]
BCB I did. Before paypal shot down all my accounts. [02:56]
mircea_popescu so what do you do now ? [02:56]
BCB nothing :( [02:56]
BCB I'm not a Money Transmitter in the US [02:57]
mircea_popescu well so how would you like a managerial position in mpif ? [02:57]
mircea_popescu We think our actions express our decisions. But in nearly all of our life, willing decides nothing. [02:57]
mircea_popescu "We cannot wake up or fall asleep, remember or forget our dreams, summon or banish our thoughts, by deciding to do so. [02:57]
mircea_popescu dude this is total bs. i can do most of those things. [02:57]
BCB You sound like Steve Jobs [02:58]
mircea_popescu i have a much better beard than jobbs ever had. [02:58]
BCB True that [02:58]
BCB what does it pay [02:59]
BCB I'm not cheap [02:59]
mircea_popescu read the contract first. [02:59]
BCB send it to me [02:59]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/?mpsic=F.MPIF [03:00]
assbot F.MPIF last 140@0.00021725 [03:00]
mircea_popescu then http://trilema.com/category/fmpif/ [03:00]
assbot F.MPIF pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:00]
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jurov BCB all managers got 10% off the profit [03:14]
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jurov except me :) [03:14]
mircea_popescu http://bdoubliees.com/vaillantpif/couvertures/v701.jpg [03:14]
jurov mircea_popescu: that's the gal with your pants? [03:15]
BCB jurov, I see that. I probably couldn't do it for less then 20% [03:15]
mircea_popescu mkay. [03:15]
mircea_popescu jurov lol no, that's ragnar. bitch not depicted. [03:15]
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mircea_popescu http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d945cb9cce20ac7143c2de8d88b187f62db99bdc [03:24]
assbot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [03:24]
mircea_popescu in which alan cox fucks up the pty. [03:24]
mircea_popescu the indignity. poor guy. [03:25]
mircea_popescu after all the 2.4-ac stuff [03:25]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming2.html [03:29]
assbot A Complete List Of Things Supposedly Caused By Global Warming [03:29]
BCB mircea_popescu, not counter offer [03:31]
BCB *no [03:32]
mircea_popescu nope. [03:34]
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BCB Romainians... [03:42]
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mircea_popescu GEORGE: Well, don't they make a counter offer? How can they just cancel the whole deal like that? What kind of a maniac is this guy? I mean he just, he says no, and that's it? [03:43]
mircea_popescu SUSAN: Yeah, that's the way Russell is. He doesn't like to play games. [03:43]
mircea_popescu you're behind on your seinfeld. [03:43]
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mircea_popescu this battle for 1 is something else to watch [04:06]
jurov https://bitcointa.lk/threads/maged-permabanned-mpoe-pr-because-she-swore-shock.292615/page-5#post-6306146 someone wanted phinny here in chan? [04:06]
assbot Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | Page 5 | Bitcointa.lk [04:06]
jurov davout ^ [04:06]
mircea_popescu jurov yes. me. [04:07]
mircea_popescu i like the guy. [04:08]
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mircea_popescu http://bitstrips.com/ [11:10]
assbot Bitstrips - Comics starring YOU and your Friends [11:10]
mircea_popescu is this the first case of a bit* site that's pre-bitcoin ? [11:10]
fluffypony I'm sure there are others [11:15]
fluffypony the bitpay domain was registered in 2004, for eg. [11:15]
mircea_popescu ya but it's a bitsite [11:15]
mircea_popescu i don't just mean the reg date [11:15]
fluffypony bitgames.com = 2002 [11:15]
fluffypony oic [11:15]
mircea_popescu unrelated, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/466853837576609792 [11:16]
assbot http://t.co/wLzTSvt8xd Next step in marriage progress : preteens and horses. Because why should species matter when souls are in love! [11:16]
fluffypony lol [11:18]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/niubi/status/466834826419388416 [11:18]
assbot Deputy head of coal dept of national energy administration detained, had over 100m rmb cash at home http://t.co/raWOJ1Sraz [11:18]
mircea_popescu talk about inflation. [11:18]
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Naphex ebay ceo bullish on bitcoin on paypal [11:29]
Naphex god help us ;/ [11:29]
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mircea_popescu what's "on bitcoin on paypal" mean. [11:30]
bounce at a guess, something along the lines of "bitcoin with chargebacks" [11:30]
Naphex "We think Bitcoin will play a very important role in the future. Exactly how that plays out, and how we can best take advantage of it and enable it with PayPal, that's something we're actively considering. It's on our radar screen." [11:31]
mircea_popescu so reddit, made out of people who have no idea how to read pr statements, got all excited ? [11:31]
mircea_popescu that thing says exactly nothing at all. whence bullish ? [11:31]
Naphex well he's been soundbiting it on bloomberg as well [11:32]
Naphex a couple of months ago [11:32]
Naphex about how pp and bitcoin would and can go well [11:32]
mircea_popescu he has to. [11:32]
mircea_popescu the alternative is, "bitcoin will kill us in a matter of years. please keep buying our stock" [11:33]
mircea_popescu ebay is rimm cca 2005. who wants to tell the people with 401k's that mp will make a killing with puts on their savings ? [11:33]
mircea_popescu ARGLE BARGLE ahahaha [11:35]
Naphex heh, well they could just integrate bitcoin;p [11:36]
Naphex but just the fact that they're big makes them slow in adding something, so it might drag [11:36]
mircea_popescu decimation: IRC is kind of a creaky old protocol. it works, but it's like hitching a ride on a Cuban 1950's Ford truck <<< there are two kinds of protocols : the "creaky old" stuff which is good and the new shitty stuff which is bad. [11:36]
mircea_popescu same exact thing can besaid of tcp/ip, or anything else that works. [11:36]
mircea_popescu none of the "better" shit is worth two shits. [11:36]
Naphex IRC is a pretty good protocol [11:36]
Naphex old doesn't factor in [11:37]
mircea_popescu Naphex they can't integrate bitcoin, because i will never id to use it. [11:37]
Naphex well they don't have to, they can have a bitcoin wallet [11:37]
Naphex and just ID to exchange to USD [11:37]
Naphex or fiat [11:37]
Naphex and you can spend bitcoin on pp shops as USD, without ID [11:38]
Naphex there [11:38]
mircea_popescu decimation: it's sad that there's not mechanism for multicast on the general internet <<< god help us. lomic ?! [11:38]
mircea_popescu Naphex so then they just made a bitcoin to usd gateway [11:38]
mircea_popescu how is this including bitcoin ? [11:39]
bounce there's plenty that IRC could be doing better. but the basic stuff works pretty well. [11:39]
mircea_popescu that compound is self contradictory. [11:39]
Naphex sometimes it is more then enough to do 1 thing well, istead of 100 things mediocrely [11:40]
mircea_popescu where sometimes is all the times. [11:40]
punkman bounce, like what? [11:41]
bounce say, a per-channel tag expressing a preferred charset [11:41]
mircea_popescu jesus christ [11:41]
punkman utf8 don't work for you? [11:42]
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Naphex utf8 and its up for the clients to interpret is fine [11:42]
punkman πφφφ [11:42]
Naphex since they only interpret command params [11:42]
mircea_popescu if i had to pick a bad example... wtf kludge is that [11:42]
bounce nope. and it's a flight-forward kind of thing. "if only everyone used this one standard system" -- but there isn't just one standard [11:42]
mircea_popescu why should irc be charset aware [11:42]
Apocalyptic ^ [11:43]
bounce well, it's never been non-charset aware, there just was only one charset [11:43]
mircea_popescu again, contradictory. [11:43]
bounce well, it's what's in the rfc. "we assume it's ascii with some swedish specialness" [11:43]
mircea_popescu that rfc is confused lol [11:44]
mircea_popescu anyway, gtg for nao [11:44]
bounce so people just use whatever charset they like, and a bunch of clients now standard guess whether the characters they're looking at is latin-1 or utf-8 and switch tack based on the guesses [11:44]
Naphex they should just default to utf8 [11:45]
Naphex and be done with it [11:45]
Naphex they'll change charset when they see artifacts all day [11:45]
Naphex or have the irc client use utf8 decoding as default [11:45]
bounce again, flight-forward kind of thing. and it completely disregards the (considerable) costs of utf-8 [11:45]
Naphex what are the utf-8 costs that are so considerable? [11:51]
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fluffypony http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ [12:41]
assbot Photos of an NSA upgrade factory show Cisco router getting implant | Ars Technica [12:41]
fluffypony Naphex: that's for you [12:42]
Naphex cisco routers prolly already had "beacons" in :) [12:45]
Naphex that workstation is just for upgrades [12:45]
Naphex :) [12:45]
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punkman "Also our cold wallet is going to be stored on a dedicated system that will come online less than once a day for brief random interval to carry out necessary transactions." [12:58]
punkman that's not cold at all [12:58]
fluffypony hah hah [12:58]
fluffypony lukewarm wallet [12:58]
Apocalyptic that's semi-hot [12:59]
punkman https://bitcointa.lk/threads/virtex-a-new-online-crypto-currency-trading-platform.281396/ [12:59]
assbot Virtex! A new online crypto currency trading platform | Bitcointa.lk [12:59]
Apocalyptic i'm already facepalming [12:59]
punkman "Good news. Literally! We have been featured in several online news magazines." [13:00]
punkman "CEO Paulius Meskauskas, CMO Tomas Andzelis, CRO Mantas Gustys and a team of over 20 other people" [13:01]
Apocalyptic punkman, your former line reminded me of neobee [13:02]
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punkman why do all these 7" low resolution monitors cost as much as a 20" HD one? [13:10]
Naphex http://www.theonion.com/video/social-media-rock-star-makes-28000-per-year,32302/ [13:14]
assbot Social Media Rock Star Makes $28,000 Per Year | Video | The Onion - America's Finest News Source [13:14]
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fluffypony Apocalyptic: is the header picture supposed to be a phoenix rising from the ashes? [13:23]
Apocalyptic fluffypony, header picture of ? [13:24]
fluffypony virtuals [13:24]
fluffypony virtex [13:24]
fluffypony ffs [13:24]
Apocalyptic I have no clue [13:24]
fluffypony http://www.virtex.com/img/head_bg.jpg [13:24]
fluffypony ka-kawww [13:24]
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punkman we got embassies now, http://bitcoinembassy.ca/ http://bitcoinet.pl/2014/05/10/bitcoin-embassy/ [13:34]
assbot Welcome [13:34]
assbot Europe’s First Bitcoin Embassy To Open in Poland | Bitcoinet [13:34]
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punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgAmNzxek [15:07]
assbot MV We are all bitcoins - YouTube [15:07]
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davout ;;seen mircea_popescu [15:21]
gribble mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 36 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: anyway, gtg for nao [15:21]
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fluffypony moiety: http://i.imgur.com/EFwpW5N.jpg [15:58]
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fluffypony baby fox > manul [15:58]
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moiety fluffypony: you made the baby sad http://www.savemanul.org/images/full/1_sm.jpg [16:02]
fluffypony lol [16:02]
fluffypony ok they're both cute [16:02]
moiety :D [16:04]
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fluffypony altcoins are really running out of ideas [16:10]
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fluffypony BillionCoin - "First coin with integrated chatroom in wallet" [16:11]
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fluffypony because when choosing a cryptocurrency, an integrated IRC client sets you apart from the herd [16:12]
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BingoBoingo http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2014/05/08/syphilis-making-a-big-comeback-among-men-warns-the-cdc/ [16:15]
assbot Syphilis Made A Big Comeback In 2013, CDC Warns - Forbes [16:15]
BingoBoingo http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1308567#figure=f1 [16:18]
assbot MMS: Error [16:18]
mircea_popescu mms error ? [16:20]
BingoBoingo Oh, it's just about the opposite of .bait [16:21]
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mircea_popescu lol [16:24]
BingoBoingo Basically the New England Journal of Medicine is irrelevant because they insist on embeding images as adobe flash [16:24]
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BingoBoingo ;;later tell danielpbarron My OpenBSD cd's arrived yesterday. [16:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [16:25]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/hQa3WMO.jpg << what happened to "judy will have to stfu and IT a lot, maybe someone'll care to listen to her stupid shit" ? [16:26]
mircea_popescu this fucking "x will need to" replacement for "we would like for x to" is a riot. [16:27]
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fluffypony I don't get it - is it supposed to be a kid's book? [16:29]
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mircea_popescu more like a white knight's book. [16:30]
fluffypony lol [16:30]
mircea_popescu punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-05-2014#673415 so nyah! [16:31]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [16:31]
jurov duh what a day.. thanks to coinroll bots we found out about Math.random backdoor in node.js [16:32]
mircea_popescu o.O [16:32]
jurov somehow it just isn't able to generate more than 80 million random IDs [16:32]
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jurov regardless of node restarts that should have changed the seed [16:33]
mircea_popescu hahaha [16:33]
mircea_popescu 80mn keyspace ? random generator ? le loll ? [16:33]
jurov and reaction of typical node programmer like wao? "oh i remember we had this problem sometime" [16:33]
mircea_popescu write this up, in mucho detail. i bet you all the shitty "paper wallet" js implementations rest on node.js [16:33]
jurov !up wao [16:34]
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wao yeah, I found this dickie feature of node in past ^ :D [16:34]
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mircea_popescu well so document it. [16:35]
davout X.EUR rollover done, receipts available upon request [16:35]
jurov but it's inherited from chrome, no? chrome can have it too then? [16:35]
wao possible, it's v8, right [16:35]
BingoBoingo Fucking google. [16:35]
wao ! [16:35]
wao we are all bugged! [16:35]
BingoBoingo Lemme guess this is also the android RNG problem [16:35]
wao hehe [16:36]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 288 @ 0.00311106 = 0.896 BTC [+] {2} [16:36]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo afaik that was never THAT narrow. 10^8, srsly ? [16:36]
mircea_popescu so basically any gpg key / wallet / anything ever generater on node.js could be cracked trivially, within hours. [16:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 150 @ 0.041 = 6.15 BTC [-] [16:37]
Naphex hey just implement your own RNG, go for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_twister and /dev/urandom / random [16:37]
assbot Mersenne twister - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [16:37]
mircea_popescu the rainbows off a 80mn wide space fit on any hdd ffs. [16:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, either space is still bigger than debian had circa 2006... [16:37]
fluffypony afaik most of those paper wallet things are straight JS and they do the crunching on the client device [16:37]
mircea_popescu Naphex afaik linux rand calls mt_rand anyway [16:37]
wao literally, mircea is right [16:37]
mircea_popescu fluffypony so ? [16:38]
wao in past, there was reason why people made modules for node.js like these http://www.enchantedage.com/node-mersenne [16:38]
assbot Node.js Mersenne Twister random number generator module | Everything you never wanted to know about Jon Watte [16:38]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: so no node in that case? [16:38]
mircea_popescu fluffypony hopefully. you know ? [16:38]
fluffypony yeah [16:38]
wao mircea_popescu: I think it was mentioned many times, like 2-3years ago [16:39]
* fluffypony throws the jew down the well [16:39]
BingoBoingo Doesn't Bitpay have some node.js bitcoin library or node or someshit? [16:39]
wao like guy at his github for module did, https://github.com/my8bird/nodejs-secure-random [16:40]
assbot my8bird/nodejs-secure-random GitHub [16:40]
wao "Javascripts Math.random is not very random." but is more like javascript problem I think [16:40]
jurov wao is there a bug report for it? [16:40]
wao but report for javascript? maybe in ecma6 is fixed, dunno. I didnt keep eye on it [16:40]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: Bitcore I think [16:40]
jurov oh that's in *specification*? [16:40]
fluffypony http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/02/14/introducing-bitcore.html [16:40]
assbot Introducing Bitcore | The BitPay Blog [16:40]
Naphex its pretty basic to just use a custom RNG then Math.random in js [16:41]
wao jurov: here is something like 'official' https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322529 [16:42]
assbot 322529 – Upgrade Math.random() to a better algorithm, such as Mersenne Twister [16:42]
Naphex this is what it returns 0.4092895321082324 [16:42]
wao https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111027154059AAP5kz0 [16:42]
assbot Javascript question! math.floor(math.random()) doesn't seem to be that random..? [16:42]
fluffypony yahoo answers...we're digging deep into the pile now [16:42]
fluffypony :-P [16:42]
wao :D [16:42]
jurov sooo ... looks like enough derpage was witten about it already [16:43]
wao jurov: I think I've seen something similiar at CR lol http://www.wikihow.com/Generate-Random-Numbers-in-JavaScript [16:43]
assbot How to Generate Random Numbers in JavaScript: 6 Steps [16:43]
wao :D [16:43]
wao last step, win [16:43]
Apocalyptic fluffypony, "we need to go deeper" [16:43]
fluffypony Apocalyptic: Geocities! [16:43]
Apocalyptic neocities nao [16:43]
fluffypony unless you're the FCC [16:44]
wao fluffypony: oh, geocities gone with dinosaurs, now it's called neocities :P [16:44]
wao ok, enough of javascript-trolling, do not use javascript, especially on serverside! ) [16:44]
fluffypony you kids and your Neocities and node.js and frappucinos and boostrap [16:45]
wao :D [16:45]
wao that's how girls write code [16:45]
Naphex and nothing wrong in using /dev/urandom /dev/random [16:45]
fluffypony lol [16:45]
wao you know, all that rails girls classes for subversile girls [16:45]
jurov wao <3 railsgirls [16:45]
wao (submisive is too sexistic word..) [16:45]
jurov i can confirm [16:45]
fluffypony gawd, I didn't even know railsgirls was a thing [16:46]
wao there was even JS ladies [16:46]
wao but didnt catch up trend, yet. [16:46]
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jborkl Javascript girls? [16:54]
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mircea_popescu davout so, you publishing the x.eur settlement anywhere ? [16:58]
davout nah, interested in the rationale that would be behind it, you said "it allows the pricing of derivatives, bitbet bets etc." [17:00]
davout referred to shelling points [17:00]
mircea_popescu well, yes. you're in a fine position to establish a signal settlement price. [17:00]
davout so if i understand correctly you think it could have some use a price signal [17:00]
mircea_popescu just publish it. can be last trade even [17:00]
mircea_popescu it definitely can [17:01]
davout it's very thinly traded tho, and i could manipulate it, no? [17:01]
mircea_popescu "i will pay joe 1.5 btc for this car on may 16th, provided x.eur settles under 0.03. otherwise, 1.2 btc" [17:01]
mircea_popescu well these go in tandem [17:01]
davout absolutely [17:01]
moiety my day so far: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-klR-u599oNQ/UnxctgPNn9I/AAAAAAAAC1M/R4LL59kj0O0/s1600/shutup.png [17:02]
mircea_popescu that's what a schelling point is. suppose you're abudcted by aliens, with a bunch of other people you never saw in your life. the aliens put four cards face up in front of each of you, the same cards, and say yo ucan go if you all pick the same card [17:03]
mircea_popescu they're 4c 5s 4d qh [17:03]
mircea_popescu it's pretty clear you're all getting out, right ? [17:03]
davout i'd pick the queen [17:03]
mircea_popescu so would everyone else. but why ? [17:03]
mircea_popescu just as much a card as any other. [17:03]
mircea_popescu schelling point. needs to have the property of direct obviousness and no other. [17:04]
davout it has a distinctive property [17:04]
davout that i can imagine others will see as well [17:04]
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mircea_popescu so therefore, published settlement price. [17:04]
mircea_popescu plus people will be able to do soft futures on its basis [17:05]
BingoBoingo People who are hard to envy: http://www.epmonthly.com/www.epmonthly.com/departments/clinical-skills/ultrasound/time-is-testicle/ [17:05]
assbot Time is Testicle [17:05]
mircea_popescu (joe borrows from moe x.eur, promises to repay either in x.eur or else in settlement value) [17:05]
davout which one should i take? last trade before settlement (which could be days behind) or last active bid before settlement? [17:06]
mircea_popescu up to you really. you're the manager. [17:06]
davout last midpoint before settlement mebbe [17:06]
mircea_popescu pick a good one and stick to it. [17:06]
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davout i can see the use, i'll use the opportunity to publish a coupla stats too [17:07]
mircea_popescu cool. [17:08]
mircea_popescu and yes, it helps your blog get some nice sticky content, too. [17:08]
mircea_popescu it's a win win all arond rly. [17:08]
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davout that'll make a nice first post, a nice second post too if i'm lazy [17:10]
BingoBoingo http://www.popehat.com/2014/05/13/department-of-health-and-human-services-threatens-blogger-over-satirical-posts/ [17:12]
assbot Department of Health And Human Services Threatens Blogger Over Satirical Posts | Popehat [17:12]
davout bbl [17:12]
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BingoBoingo http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/05/meeting-of-minds.html [17:22]
assbot Doctor Grumpy in the House: Meeting of the minds [17:22]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lmao [17:35]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Now you know who raises reddit [17:35]
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mircea_popescu lmao there's a belgium whale now, buying up all the Ts russia is dumping. hahaha [17:36]
BingoBoingo Where's Ahab when you need him. [17:38]
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thestringpuller ;;seen bitcoinpete [18:11]
gribble bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: bbl [18:11]
fluffypony mucho latero [18:11]
bitcoinpete ahoy mateys [18:11]
bitcoinpete thestringpuller: fixed your gravatar in the comments section [18:11]
bitcoinpete peterl: s.limbs must be a joke then! [18:12]
thestringpuller bitcoinpete: I have a story for you. [18:13]
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bitcoinpete ok shoot [18:14]
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bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/15/forget-cpi-inflation-is-measured-with-art/ [18:22]
assbot Forget CPI. Inflation Is Measured With Art. | When Bitcoin Met Pete [18:22]
pankkake it's also a way to escape taxes, at least in France very much so [18:22]
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bitcoinpete pankkake: you guys have a wonderful history of appreciating art in all its dimensions [18:30]
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benkay wsj is down [18:45]
benkay logs are short [18:45]
benkay what is a boy to read over coffee anyways? [18:45]
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thestringpuller why don't you program something in lisp [18:46]
cgcardona good morning everyone o/ [18:46]
thestringpuller ;;ident [18:46]
gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None [18:46]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [22:44]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [22:44]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [22:44]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [22:44]
mike_c benkay: cacert? trust a whole bunch of idiots? [22:45]
fluffypony "You can withdraw all your funds by sending less than 1 amount of Bitcoins to the same address. Please remember the Bitcoin address you use to deposit and withdraw funds as this is used to identify your account." [22:45]
fluffypony I can't [22:45]
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BingoBoingo jborkl: Apparently I'm lagging http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/ejqKTo/http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com [22:47]
assbot Website speed test [22:47]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [22:47]
mircea_popescu motherfucker! who came up with the retarded idea of making shampoo bottle caps not straight [22:47]
mircea_popescu used to be one of my top ways to judge a girl : go to her bathroom, see if the shampoo is resting "upside down" [22:48]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: the French [22:48]
mircea_popescu if not, she's retarded. [22:48]
benkay mike_c: but chrome et al hate self-signed certs. [22:48]
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mircea_popescu benkay and random numers. [22:48]
mircea_popescu !up toastee [22:48]
-assbot- You voiced toastee for 30 minutes. [22:48]
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mike_c benkay: yes, but chrome is not a priori [22:49]
mike_c more a posteriori [22:49]
mircea_popescu a posterior, more like it. [22:49]
benkay there are two concerns is all i'm saying [22:50]
benkay "is this connection encrypted?" [22:50]
benkay "am i talking to the right person?" [22:50]
mircea_popescu 1 reduces to 2. [22:50]
mircea_popescu otherwise, THIS connection is encrypted. [22:51]
mircea_popescu just a lotta people happen to have the keys is all. [22:51]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: I topped out at 97% as well. [22:52]
benkay i think i want a wot for server keys [22:52]
mircea_popescu Naphex was making sometring of that ilk. [22:52]
benkay a bunch of lists of dns records and the keys associated with each [22:52]
benkay i'm irritated that i gotta pay 85/year for wildcard ssl certs that normal browsers won't freak out about. [22:53]
mircea_popescu actually, namecoin was ALSO doing something kind-of similar, but not really. [22:53]
benkay was? [22:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20693 @ 0.00099609 = 20.6121 BTC [+] [22:54]
mircea_popescu well i dunno what it's doing nao. [22:54]
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mircea_popescu Me : Bla bla bla diff bets bla bla bla evil socialists! [22:54]
mircea_popescu Redditor : Much simpler explanation : the proposition target was way off-market (100%). Nothing to be won by betting on the clear outcome. [22:54]
mircea_popescu Me : Only a noob could think this is an actual explanation. Most if not all diff propositions were upsets. [22:54]
mircea_popescu Redditor : Sorry to have burst your bubble. [22:54]
mircea_popescu HE has burst MY bubble. oh internets. [22:54]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: Reddit has become the home of groupthink and retardation lately [22:56]
fluffypony even more so than usual [22:56]
mircea_popescu each new year. [22:56]
fluffypony dat eternal September [22:56]
benkay just look at the google results for [smelling burning rubber mysterious] [22:57]
benkay I HAS A BRAIN TUMOR O KRIST [22:57]
toastee mircea_popescu Can you add me to auto-voice? [23:02]
mircea_popescu http://www.alternet.org/weird-science-siberian-psychologists-caning-patients-buttocks-new-addiction-treatment [23:02]
assbot Weird Science: Siberian Psychologists Caning Patients "On the Buttocks" in New Addiction Treatment | Alternet [23:02]
mircea_popescu probably, but why should i ? [23:02]
fluffypony ;;gettrust assbot toastee [23:04]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user toastee: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=toastee | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=toastee | Rated since: never [23:04]
fluffypony o well [23:04]
toastee i just wouldnt mind chatting in here [23:05]
toastee channel is +m [23:05]
toastee and you keep +v'ing me manually anyway lol [23:05]
BingoBoingo ;;ident toastee [23:06]
gribble Nick 'toastee', with hostmask 'toastee!toastee@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vjvfdwflctakzdyr', is not identified. [23:06]
mircea_popescu i only up yuou because i don't recall your name and figure maybe you have something to actually say [23:06]
BingoBoingo toastee: Well, there are ways of getting auto voive [23:06]
mircea_popescu so far this isn't proceeding well on either of the two scores. [23:06]
toastee just interested in the chan so i idle [23:07]
toastee that's all [23:07]
BingoBoingo idling is useful [23:07]
mircea_popescu np. [23:07]
toastee if there's some kind of ident or auth i have to do just tell me how lol [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00099208 = 12.1034 BTC [-] {2} [23:08]
BingoBoingo http://dougdemuro.jalopnik.com/ohio-issues-bright-yellow-license-plates-to-shame-dui-o-1576928319/+sarah-hedgecock [23:08]
assbot Ohio Issues Bright Yellow License Plates To Shame DUI Offenders [23:08]
benkay ;;google bitcoin-assets wot voice [23:08]
gribble #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model - Cascadian Hacker: ; #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; NEXT: 29-04-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: [23:09]
benkay toastee: ^^ [23:09]
BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com #bitcoin-assets +m [23:09]
gribble #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; The elitism memory hole effect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: [23:09]
toastee gotcha [23:09]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnsrPF-CMAA74VL.jpg [23:09]
mircea_popescu so wasn't tat supposed to liveblog some lolfest or it hasn't started yet or what ? [23:09]
mircea_popescu did little miss boring get the best atm of the year award or whatever it was ? [23:10]
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mircea_popescu o hai [23:11]
mircea_popescu !up Guest20412 [23:11]
-assbot- You voiced Guest20412 for 30 minutes. [23:11]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: he made 2 videos [23:13]
fluffypony not much to see, just swag and the booths [23:13]
mircea_popescu for the love of christ [23:13]
fluffypony he says the Internet connection there is shitty [23:13]
fluffypony so won't be as live as he'd hoped [23:13]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i only coupla days ago found out what swag ACTUALLY means. [23:13]
mircea_popescu i always thought it synonymous to bling. [23:13]
mircea_popescu fluffypony hey, shitty interwebs but at least they paid for the airport to display related ads, right ? [23:14]
mircea_popescu #rightdirection. [23:14]
BingoBoingo Well, did they pay the airport's asking price without negotiation a'la Neo? [23:15]
fluffypony lol [23:15]
fluffypony buy...ALL of the ads! [23:15]
benkay "shit we all get" [23:15]
mircea_popescu lawl. greece introduced a 33% tax on all capital gains on greek bonds between 2012 and 2013. [23:15]
mircea_popescu retroactive [23:15]
mircea_popescu benkay yah, nao i know. [23:16]
benkay greek link, mircea_popescu ? [23:16]
BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/dan-bilzerians-lawyer-responds-to-the-porn-star-he-thre-1576855124 [23:17]
assbot Dan Bilzerian's Lawyer Responds to the Porn Star He Threw off the Roof [23:17]
mircea_popescu benkay it's in a pwc report. [23:17]
mircea_popescu (ie, not directly linkable) [23:18]
benkay well shoot a brother a pdf then eh [23:18]
mircea_popescu nm, here it is [23:19]
mircea_popescu http://www.pwc.ch/news/en/12080/greece-capital-gains-tax-non-residents-gains-greek-bonds-immediate-action-required [23:19]
assbot Greece: capital gains tax for non-residents on gains from Greek bonds, immediate action required PwC | Schweiz [23:19]
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mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with these people, if you're gonna put it on the web anyway, why dick around with emails. [23:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0735134 = 1.2497 BTC [-] {4} [23:21]
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benkay sweet deal. [23:21]
benkay "fuck you, international financiers. we didn't want your money anyways." [23:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07331266 = 0.5865 BTC [-] {3} [23:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4110143 = 0.822 BTC [+] [23:22]
mircea_popescu exactly. [23:23]
mircea_popescu o, you made money supporting us in our darkest hour ? well fuck you. [23:23]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnr_p_iCAAEWAYM.jpg [23:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41101441 BTC [+] [23:28]
mircea_popescu "We have used PGP/GPG for long years before Bitcoin paper was written." [23:30]
mircea_popescu helpfully omits to link gpg key. likely does not even know what that is or why it'd be relevant. [23:30]
mircea_popescu forum self crits for >9k again [23:30]
mike_c ;;bc,stats [23:31]
gribble Current Blocks: 300905 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 1494 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9852124062.72 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.28048 [23:31]
mircea_popescu it's not making 14bn is it. [23:31]
mike_c gribble's estimates seem off. [23:31]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: that guy is classic, he's out-trolling the trolls [23:31]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/ [23:31]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 30.09 B (73%) on Yes, 11.38 B (27%) on No | closing in 4 weeks 1 day| weight: 16`905 (100`000 to 1) [23:31]
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mircea_popescu but there's just no way it makes 5.2bn gains in 2-3 periods. [23:31]
mircea_popescu actually it could be 5 i guess [23:32]
mike_c i think it'll be 4 [23:32]
mircea_popescu it could be as low as 3 i guess. [23:33]
mircea_popescu %block [23:34]
mircea_popescu hm what was it again [23:34]
mircea_popescu %diff [23:34]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152925.19 in 978 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.42 [23:34]
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mircea_popescu there's obviously a nonzero chance that bitcoin has a -50% diff event during its lifetime. i wonder if it'll also be during our lifetime. [23:34]
BingoBoingo http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5163957&cid=47012267 [23:35]
mike_c 4 12% bumps make it [23:35]
assbot Don't Be a Server Hugger! (Video) - Slashdot [23:35]
midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio [23:35]
mike_c 3 16.5% bumps, 5 9.6% bumps [23:35]
mircea_popescu mike_c prev bump was 10%. and this does get increasingly hard as time goes by, too [23:36]
mike_c https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty says next bump estimated at 14% [23:36]
assbot Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom [23:36]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: [23:37]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: "compare it to the known losses of non scammor companies" < [23:37]
mircea_popescu mike_c now we only need bitcoinagility, bitcoinstrength, bitcoinendurance and bitcoinintelligence [23:37]
mircea_popescu then we could make a party. [23:37]
mike_c hehe. need bitcoindexterity too [23:38]
mike_c ah, agility. [23:38]
jborkl Coinkite Taps Bitcoin Developer Peter Todd For Advisory Role <- is'nt that name kinda racist? [23:38]
mircea_popescu mike_c no because no rogue/thief class [23:38]
mircea_popescu jborkl todd ?! [23:38]
jborkl sorry I misread the name Coinkike [23:39]
mircea_popescu a lol [23:39]
mircea_popescu kointyke [23:39]
mircea_popescu http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27388104 << bank of india won't take free usd. [23:40]
assbot BBC News - The 10-year-old who offered money to India's central bank [23:40]
jborkl working on code is like playing grandtheft auto, hard to get anything done cause you get distracted break something and then run over a cop [23:41]
jborkl accomplishing nothing [23:41]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: I'd rather not say to protect the guilty - he mismanaged stuff badly after that and the whole thing spiralled into recklessness and infamy << the company you keep. [23:41]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: me and my dodgy friends! [23:42]
fluffypony tbh I haven't spoken to him in months, I should actually find out if he's still alive [23:42]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: Your website is faster than 97% of all tested websites compared to 86% for bcoinnews.com , yet news get 99/100 and bitbet 83 << because it's not scored by performance, it's scored by you doing what they want you to do. [23:43]
mircea_popescu like us academic achievement. [23:43]
BingoBoingo ^ [23:43]
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mike_c like all academic achivement. [23:45]
mike_c who gives you good grades for not doing what they want? [23:45]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: Chrome was freezing so i went to uninstall it and i think i unistalled the whole os ui << MP on ubuntu fresh install. "Why the shit does this have internet ? Take it out". Ubuntu proceeds to mark everything as "to be uninstalled", all the way up to the kernel. Why ? BECAUSE FUCKTARDS MARK EVERYTHING AS A DEPENDENCY. [23:45]
mircea_popescu mike_c me, possibly the only entity out there. [23:45]
mircea_popescu here's an anecdote : back when i was in school tho, we did this "thesis paper" each trimester, which accounted for half the grade, in select subjects. [23:47]
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mircea_popescu we were superadvanced math class, and so the teacher getting bored of all the constant "but may we use CBS to prove this ?" "no" "Why the fuck not!" [23:48]
mircea_popescu came up with, you may use any lemma you can, if asked after the paper, demonstrate at the blackboard. but if you can't, you get an F no matter what's in yoru thesis. hoping to shut us up. [23:48]
mircea_popescu so that term I used a "all obtuse angles are straight angles" lemma. blazed through the geometry section with it. [23:49]
mike_c and demonstrated that how? [23:50]
mircea_popescu it had a troll proof which now i forget. [23:50]
mircea_popescu but i did get full mark on the paper. [23:50]
mircea_popescu "for ingenuity" [23:50]
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mircea_popescu (for people readng at home, cbs = cauchy-buniakowski-schwartz, a major stepping stone in liniar algebra/analysis) [23:52]
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