Forum logs for 15 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo actually ima write that up for qntra.	[02:42]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo actually ima write that up for qntra.	[02:42]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Go for it.	[02:48]
BingoBoingo	My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty	[02:49]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: add keyserver to the list of things la serenissima wants its own of, eh? << heh sure, eventually.	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	artifexd: A gossipd-net of keyservers would be divine << I like it << kinda how it has to work anyway	[03:37]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Yeah. I got that much from the convo. asciilifeform Was totally right about the thing living as streams of UDP piss	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: and now you found out that altcoin extremist are also bad ? << dude... you people are so hard to troll i swear. what sort of a cult are we running here out of this much internet savvy and genre savvy and whatnot! i think we're supposed to fall over backwards every time some random lolcow wanders in and says something nice.	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: microshit wireless kbd crypts with xor. << OTP ? :D	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo: My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty << it finally dawned on me what cazalla wanted with domme chicks.	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	get a busted lip, bust out 50 qntra articles in a rage.	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	Seriously	[03:43]
BingoBoingo	I'm not so picky. Just B cups and a big fat butt... I'm good on that.	[03:44]
BingoBoingo	I bleed... She bleeds... that's just logistics	[03:45]
BingoBoingo	Seriously looks like Obummer is going to push the E-patriot act though which sucks	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	if a shit suddenly farts, is it shittier than before it farted ?	[03:47]
BingoBoingo	No, It is just a shart, an awkward compromise	[03:47]
BingoBoingo	#bitcoin-otc right nao: Any thoughts or interest on order #21899	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	Well, possible there's a niceguy stevepn out there that FF took the name of for his dirty deeds. If he's authed, it's FF fo sho :P	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	;;view 21899	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	#21899 Wed Jan 14 21:58:43 2015 BingoBoingo BUY 40.0 PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor @ 1 BTC (Serious Inqueries only)	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	Why so cheap, BingoBoingo, is it a power hog?	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo: that's ONE buy? what a weird combo. :)	[03:53]
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BingoBoingo	Dizzle: Not cheap. I price BTC at fair market value. None of this roulette on whether Bitstamp can deliver bullshit.	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	lewellyn: Makes perfect sense. Naval reactors are reliable. Basically free electricity for 20 years	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	Also for cooling, weld some fins on and... ocean	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	ohh, you're buying, thought you were selling for a second. :D	[03:53]
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BingoBoingo	Nah, I want the boat and hardware to fill it.	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	I'll buy higher than 1 BTC for what I want... But... I'm not gonna get Jew'd on this shit.	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo: can civilians GET a working reactor? :P	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	dude srsly...	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	lewellyn: WHy not. I didn't personally sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	pastebin wtf.	[03:54]
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BingoBoingo	And I will be Damned if Obola tries to negate my second amendment rights with treaty agreements.	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	Eh, I know what I want to buy.	[03:54]
punkman	http://italiastartupvisa.mise.gov.it/ "The Italian Government policy to attract innovative entrepreneurs from all over the world"	[04:07]
assbot	Italia Startup Visa \| main page ... ( http://bit.ly/1yeHHLo )	[04:07]
punkman	"a KPMG report recently stated that “Made in Italy” is the 3rd best known brand in the world."	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	ahaha	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	they probably just intend to pickpocket them.	[04:08]
punkman	big time	[04:08]
punkman	"certified incubator"	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	well, rome, capital of the rroma people.	[04:10]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/ << mircea_popescu	[04:10]
assbot	Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9OTFV )	[04:10]
fluffypony	[09:06:09] <@Stalker> I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT	[04:10]
fluffypony	[09:06:17] <@Stalker> Cosplay is modelling for the ugly girls	[04:10]
fluffypony	!bash 2	[04:10]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33HTVBM.txt )	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	ahaha	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony they're more often fat than ugly, to put a... fine point on it.	[04:11]
fluffypony	lol	[04:11]
punkman	they hire professional models to cosplay in all the conventions these days	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	howrysheeit look at it! mom, i made the papers!	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	"Sometimes, rom and romani are spelled with a double r, i.e., rrom and rromani. In this case rr is used to represent the phoneme /ʀ/ (also written as ř and rh), which in some Romani dialects has remained different from the one written with a single r. " << actually, this is incorrect.	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	the source of the double r in writing is that right at the time gypsies decided to yet again rename in the early 90s, there was circulating on romanian TV a reading of a caragiale novel (romani verzi) mocking a very nutty sort of nationalism current in his time, that was being read in a particularrrrr manerrrr by a certain comedian.	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	this was immediately and universally applied to what was perceived as a silly and pompous notion of the minority in question.	[04:14]
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BingoBoingo	!up pete_dushenski	[04:28]
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pete_dushenski	grazi!	[04:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00043462 = 10.257 BTC [-]	[04:29]
pete_dushenski	i come bearing blog: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/14/its-time-for-post-post-modernity-to-mature-or-perish/	[04:29]
assbot	It’s time for post-post-modernity to mature or perish. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9RVtO )	[04:29]
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pete_dushenski	contravex: now sporting new quippy comment thingies on the sidebar!	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	!up qntranet	[04:31]
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BingoBoingo	Hello qntranet	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	so mucxh voice.	[04:31]
BingoBoingo	How are you?	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski funny how scoopbot dies half hour before you come in lol	[04:31]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu lol well scoopbot and i never really saw eye to eye	[04:32]
pete_dushenski	just ask peterl	[04:32]
pete_dushenski	the thing refused to recognise my extistence	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	mebbe it has a crash on oyu.	[04:32]
pete_dushenski	which is fine by me, i don't need no stinkin' bot taking my job!	[04:33]
BingoBoingo	O.o PeterL does scoopbot want to fuck other Pete???	[04:33]
pete_dushenski	it's all out war	[04:33]
pete_dushenski	:)	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:34]
fluffypony	"journalism" at its finest: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/cirrus-bitcoin-bucks	[04:36]
assbot	An Undercover Agent Was Making $1000 a Week in Bitcoin as a Silk Road Admin \| Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2Fzpt )	[04:36]
fluffypony	'Dread Pirate Roberts, or DRP, used the username “dread,”'	[04:36]
fluffypony	because acronyms are hard	[04:37]
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mircea_popescu	iirc saw that in teh logs.	[04:37]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu for no other reason than that i've observed it, i have to say that your blogs have been kinder and gentler of late	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	apparently one admin was actually undercover agent, the official story now goes	[04:37]
BingoBoingo	That's been they story for well over a month nao	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski the fact that i can't tell if you're straight or sarcastic is telling	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo but not originally.	[04:38]
pete_dushenski	lol	[04:38]
pete_dushenski	so, so telling	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	so which was it ?	[04:38]
pete_dushenski	i'm being straight!	[04:39]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well originally in law Defense lawyer could have said no legally observed evil, but... evil judge...	[04:39]
pete_dushenski	i can probably attribute a chunk of this to the acclimatisation process	[04:39]
pete_dushenski	my lungs have adapted to the air up here	[04:39]
pete_dushenski	the shock has worn off perhaps	[04:40]
pete_dushenski	just as the "oh noes how come the education system never taught us xyz and instead pulled the wool over our eyes" reaction is weakening	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	"The men who murdered Virginia's original twenty-six cemetery-occupants were never punished. Why? Because Alfred the Great, when he invented trial by jury and knew that he had admirably framed it to secure justice in his age of the world, was not aware that in the nineteenth century the condition of things would be so entirely changed that unless he rose from the grave and altered the jury plan to meet the emergency, i	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	t would prove the most ingenious and infallible agency for defeating justice that human wisdom could contrive. For how could he imagine that we simpletons would go on using his jury plan after circumstances had stripped it of its usefulness, any more than he could imagine that we would go on using his candle-clock after we had invented chronometers? In his day news could not travel fast, and hence he could easily find	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	a jury of honest, intelligent men who had not heard of the case they were called to try—but in our day of telegraphs and newspapers his plan compels us to swear in juries composed of fools and rascals, because the system rigidly excludes honest men and men of brains."	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	"Laws, not men" bas birthed more evil than any other construction	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	srsly, twain was complaining of it.	[04:42]
*	BingoBoingo still finds "failed" tagalog a potentially more fruitful endeavor than that Chicom pidgin	[04:43]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014	[12:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}	[12:39]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179517/amia-prosecutor-accuses-cfk-timerman-of-covering-up-iran << argentina heating up.	[12:41]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179517/amia-prosecutor-accuses-cfk-timerman-of-covering-up-iran << argentina heating up.	[12:41]
assbot	AMIA prosecutor accuses CFK, Timerman of 'covering up' Iran's involvement in bombing - BuenosAiresHerald.com	[12:41]
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thestringpuller	you get my reply mircea_popescu :P	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	mno	[12:54]
thestringpuller	via da logz	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	didnt look yet	[12:54]
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thestringpuller	ah.	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	mats >> it's on qntra even.	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14. << i expect it's just a shortcut to pay them better.	[12:59]
mircea_popescu	gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd? << kakobrekla has been, for a while now	[12:59]
mircea_popescu	davout: kakobrekla: the question now is what is almost complete :D << wot capabilit yintegration into assbot!	[13:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}	[13:01]
davout	mircea_popescu: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/54/5467b21bf2e9a7c44519e2728bb5aa86798e3b769ffa1545b6a1173897757ef9.jpg	[13:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1sCHUFI )	[13:02]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller ic!	[13:04]
mircea_popescu	news waits for no man, mr.	[13:04]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	@ ethereum reddit.	[13:05]
mats	http://www.wired.com/2014/12/finney-swat	[13:06]
assbot	An Extortionist Has Been Making Life Hell for Bitcoin's Earliest Adopters \| WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCIS4M )	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	lolwut ?! finney was dead wasn't he ?!	[13:06]
davout	mircea_popescu: that was before he died	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	wow. i thought i had read eulogies and everything	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	oh	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	ty for that made my head spin for a minute	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	"Roger Ver, another early bitcoin adopter, believes he was victimized by the same person the week before the Finney family was swatted. That’s when someone using the names Nitrous and Savaged hacked into Ver’s email accounts and demanded that he cough up 37 bitcoins"	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	lmao roger ver is such an exercise in tramp	[13:09]
davout	mircea_popescu: x.eur pl0x	[13:10]
mircea_popescu	aye.	[13:10]
[]bot	Bet created: "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/	[13:12]
mats	http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/15/uk-swiss-snb-cap-idUKKBN0KO0XV20150115	[13:14]
assbot	Swiss central bank shocks markets with currency 'tsunami'	[13:14]
[]bot	Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/ Odds: 0(Y):100(N) by coin, 0(Y):100(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,998.	[13:14]
mats	i wonder how they plan to manage domestic deflation	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	by not caring.	[13:16]
mircea_popescu	if you mean the swiss	[13:16]
davout	mats: in what way would it be a problem? exports?	[13:17]
mats	for the swiss, inflation is 0%, some interbank rates are negative, oil is falling, and this move will probably drop imports 10%+	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	they're too well integrated with euro to actually care.	[13:18]
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danielpbarron	https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/555693914112663552	[13:23]
assbot	I know, I know, /hashtag/firstworldproblems?src=hash, but flying coach just blows. Thanks /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash. (Then again, Miami awaits!)	[13:23]
mats	lol	[13:24]
BingoBoingo	http://qntra.net/2015/01/transaction-fees-and-the-future-of-bitcoin/	[13:24]
assbot	Transaction Fees and the Future of Bitcoin \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCNPuq )	[13:24]
BingoBoingo	hanbot chetty Your qntra comments are up http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/#comment-7332	[13:25]
assbot	Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCO9JL )	[13:25]
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TomServo	Does scoopbot need to be replaced? It seems to often be MIA.	[13:29]
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mircea_popescu	davout shoulkd be there.	[13:40]
davout	tyvm	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	TomServo well ideally it'd have to be fixed,	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	but if that doesn't woirk i guess it'll have to be replaced.	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	ivreally wish people were a LOT more open with the problems they have. if there's one time to be all over this place, it's then.	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	the alternative of "it dun work and i'm mia" pretty much the worst possible approach.	[13:41]
TomServo	Oh - I thought it was working (aside from contravex), but just having trouble staying online.	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	i dunno anymore than you do on the topic.	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	just what i see in logs.	[13:41]
TomServo	If it just needs a more stable home I can probably help.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	yeah but we dunno what it needs or what's going on, and so can't help.	[13:42]
TomServo	I forgot who ran it, but reach out if I can lend a hand!	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	i will next i see 'em.	[13:42]
BingoBoingo	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/15/danes_mull_session_logging_law_despite_eu_data_retention_ban/	[13:45]
assbot	Denmark mulls new EU-defying session-logging law • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCTIb2 )	[13:45]
davout	TomServo: peterl runs it iirc	[13:46]
BingoBoingo	Now the Danish Parliament looks set to reintroduce the obligation, despite an evaluation of its effectiveness showing only one case out of around 24 trillion registrations where it had actually helped police	[13:46]
BingoBoingo	^ lulzy shit	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	lol	[13:46]
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mircea_popescu	this pretense that shit like "denmark" even have the power to legislate.	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	gtfo, you're a municipal council. stick to peeling chewinggum off the sidewalk and debating what uniform to put the parking meter chicks in.	[13:48]
BingoBoingo	Silicon Valley http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/four-on-five-nba-basketball.html	[13:48]
assbot	The NBA’s Golden Age of Innovation Is Coming -- NYMag ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICxmui )	[13:48]
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mircea_popescu	bwahaha	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	you know, the ironic bit here is that... ceausescu called his epic fail "epoca de aur". teh golden age of ballooning.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	SNB Chairman Thomas Jordan denied at a news conference that the move amounted to a "panic reaction", saying the cap had been scrapped because it was unsustainable. "If you decide to exit such a policy, you have to take the markets by surprise," Jordan said. << quite.	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	one can't maintain arbitrary caps like that.	[13:50]
TomServo	davout: Thanks, I'll drop a line.	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	one shouldn't even try, but hey.	[13:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 151 @ 0.00689999 = 1.0419 BTC [+] {2}	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	""I've never seen such a drop in one go, it's huge. People will probably be buying euros, but also dollars and other currencies," said one UBS teller, after selling euros to a Russian client."	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	orly ? people are goinmg to BUY dollars because they're worthless ?	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	and are going to SELL stuff like RUB ? what "people" are these people ?	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	"Fitch's managing director of sovereign ratings Ed Parker said the move would not affect Switzerland's top-grade rating." ahahahaha jesus fucking christ.	[13:53]
mircea_popescu	tell me if it's going to affect the us's top rating, derps.	[13:53]
BingoBoingo	Three https://i.imgur.com/qvcVB6p.jpg	[13:55]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ICzCBH )	[13:55]
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davout	BingoBoingo: the third's face is creepy	[14:01]
pete_dushenski	guten morgen!	[14:01]
BingoBoingo	davout: Deer probably find your "I'm fucking" face creepy too	[14:02]
davout	ohai	[14:02]
davout	i never really had the occasion to make a butseks-a-guy-who-sekses-up-some-chick face so i guess that's an unknown for now	[14:03]
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BingoBoingo	Well...	[14:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.11772061 = 5.2974 BTC [+] {10}	[14:26]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2010/un-mic-exercitiu/ << so if anyone feels like delving into romanian, this is me doing journalism school in 2010. comments moar valuable htan article as per usual.	[14:35]
assbot	Un mic exercitiu. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xtmeas )	[14:36]
davout	mircea_popescu: at first i was like 'Be that as it may'	[14:41]
davout	but then 'Be that as it may, consider ca am cam obtinut ce am dorit prin comentariile(adevarat, exasperant de incalcite) prin care autorul completeaza sau clarifica unele sectiuni mai gri.'	[14:41]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4542 @ 0.00065799 = 2.9886 BTC [-] {3}	[14:45]
mats	i have recently discovered grocery delivery	[14:46]
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mats	it is amazeeng	[14:47]
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mircea_popescu	davout it's right.	[15:08]
mats	;;ticker --market all	[15:09]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.23, vol: 91288.38996660 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.0, vol: 54412.72426 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 209279.78459044 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 219.71, vol: 41.24919397 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 211.4035, vol: 354868.10020000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 210.22177, vol: 158.71142587 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 222.738329988, vol: 180.853045 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[15:09]
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ben_vulpes	buenas terroristas	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	"An individual who owned twenty feet in the Ophir mine before its great riches were revealed to men, traded it for a horse, and a very sorry looking brute he was, too. A year or so afterward, when Ophir stock went up to $3,000 a foot, this man, who had not a cent, used to say he was the most startling example of magnificence and misery the world had ever seen—because he was able to ride a sixty-thousand-dollar horse	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	—yet could not scrape up cash enough to buy a saddle, and was obliged to borrow one or ride bareback. He said if fortune were to give him another sixty-thousand-dollar horse it would ruin him."	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	check it out! kako's golf used to be a horse.	[15:19]
ben_vulpes	riding bareback's not so bad...	[15:19]
*	ben_vulpes never did it for more than a few hours tho	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	it's not feasible long term.	[15:19]
ben_vulpes	and i did have a blanket thinger	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	run both you and the horse bloody.	[15:19]
ben_vulpes	not good capital equipment maintenance.	[15:20]
ben_vulpes	man i want some horses!	[15:20]
ben_vulpes	that's capital equipment that makes more capital equipment.	[15:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 240 @ 0.00522541 = 1.2541 BTC [-] {7}	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	talk to davout iirc he was looking to start a farm.	[15:20]
ben_vulpes	davout: doing it in france	[15:21]
ben_vulpes	in other news, i have to put up a notice to my employees that my company bears unemployment insurance. this is all standard practice, but it irks me that the responsibility for educating people about their rights falls to me.	[15:21]
ben_vulpes	it's this sneaky tax, basically.	[15:21]
ben_vulpes	"we're going to pass a law, and then make the people who actually get shit done teach the proles about it."	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea what you imagine the point of a company is if not educate its workers.	[15:22]
ben_vulpes	er, worker's compensation. not unemployment.	[15:22]
ben_vulpes	we educate plenty!	[15:22]
ben_vulpes	but being told to educate on a thing of such triviality and irrelevance to the business is loathsome.	[15:23]
ben_vulpes	i must hang a poster.	[15:23]
mthreat	i think i've seen those in the bathroom	[15:23]
ben_vulpes	a vile red and blue poster.	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	so you're really after the political statement that it is a business owner's own right and privilege to educate whatever he sees fit, and the intermeddling of some "state" is at best unwelcome ?	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	how goes mthreat ?	[15:23]
mthreat	not bad	[15:24]
ben_vulpes	i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster.	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	saw teh flood ?	[15:24]
mthreat	not sure, in BsAs?	[15:24]
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mircea_popescu	yeah, libertador was under a foot of water coupla days ago	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	suddenly the car was afloat lol.	[15:24]
mthreat	oh.. no I hadn't	[15:24]
BingoBoingo	i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster. << sign under it that says "Do not deface poster" should both result in defaced posted while still counting as a reasonable precaution	[15:25]
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mthreat	ya.. i've seen minor versions of that. drainage FTW	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	it can really pour here.	[15:25]
mthreat	flash floods are fairly common in central texas too	[15:26]
mthreat	people always trying to drive through it and drowning	[15:26]
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mircea_popescu	lol. "o, there's a problem ? let's ignore it maybe it goes away".	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	college was not for naught!	[15:27]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.05 BTC. Current weight: 14,021.	[15:54]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to top 360$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1102/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.1 BTC. Current weight: 85,870.	[15:54]
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ben_vulpes	[] mebbe it has a crash on oyu. << ouch.	[16:01]
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ben_vulpes	!up pete_dushenski	[16:06]
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ben_vulpes	what's up with your keytuation?	[16:07]
pete_dushenski	ty ben!	[16:07]
pete_dushenski	uh nothing much	[16:07]
pete_dushenski	just waiting for assbot	[16:07]
pete_dushenski	that'll show those holiday-takers!	[16:07]
pete_dushenski	http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/01/15/target-to-exit-canada/ << and gooood riddance!	[16:08]
assbot	Target To Exit Canada « CBS Minnesota ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2Lm2p )	[16:08]
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pete_dushenski	there's no room in this town for a retailer that hangs its hat on faux francais pronunciation of its name	[16:10]
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pete_dushenski	you don't see simon's pulling the nasal "n" card	[16:11]
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pete_dushenski	anyone read bruce bueno de mesquita ?	[16:17]
pete_dushenski	he was recommended by a commenter on contravex and his writings looks to be pretty on point	[16:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.1198888 = 1.079 BTC [-] {2}	[16:17]
pete_dushenski	*look	[16:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 324 @ 0.1295362 = 41.9697 BTC [+] {11}	[16:18]
pete_dushenski	Some $12 trillion in new money has been created since the global financial crisis by the major central banks in a broad attempt to bolster hobbled banking systems, ease debt service and revive a damaged global economy. << deflation, surely, is right around the corner	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	terrorist redpiller pedophile racist	[16:20]
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pete_dushenski	sounds aboot right	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	are you threatening me ?!?!	[16:22]
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pete_dushenski	me? never!	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	i need progress for my bunghole	[16:23]
pete_dushenski	ya, it's smearing everywhere	[16:25]
pete_dushenski	quite the mess you've made	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:26]
asciilifeform	http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf << required reading for all shitgnomologists. 'we're not sorry, but we're sorry we got caught.'	[16:26]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/14DHJyp )	[16:26]
pete_dushenski	A man who portrayed himself as a member of a wealthy Pakistani family and was often seen driving luxury cars including a Ferrari faces sentencing in a multimillion-dollar investment scam involving three former Miami Heat players and the team itself. << as if the donald sterling shmozzle wasn't embarrassing enough for the nba	[16:27]
pete_dushenski	it's the the major pro sports in the us are trying to out-retard each other	[16:28]
pete_dushenski	"no our players and fans our stupider!"	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo writing up this one ?	[16:29]
asciilifeform	https://threatpost.com/new-strain-of-crowti-ransomware-moving-in-i2p-network/110416 << even crapware artists moving off tor	[16:29]
assbot	Crowti Cryptowall 3.0 Ransomware Moving in I2P Network \| Threatpost \| The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6yEpQ )	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:30]
pete_dushenski	Zafar convinced Miller to give him $2.6 million, Lewis to give him $4 million and Jones to give him $1.5 million, all for an investment opportunity that Zafar said would "quickly obtain a significant return." But rather than reimburse the Miami Heat or three individuals, Zafar used the money "for his personal use and benefit,"	[16:30]
pete_dushenski	Zafar's attorney has said his client pleaded guilty to accept responsibility and move forward with his life. << he'd better. it also ties into this week's pleabargain convo	[16:30]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell BingoBoingo http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sentencing-scheduled-multimillion-dollar-miami-heat-fraud-061059671--finance.html	[16:31]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[16:31]
assbot	Sentencing scheduled in multimillion-dollar Miami Heat fraud - Yahoo Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6z6EJ )	[16:31]
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ben_vulpes	!up pete_dushenski	[16:41]
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pete_dushenski	merci!	[16:41]
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ben_vulpes	de rien	[16:42]
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pete_dushenski	through the first 11 months of 2014, Prius sales were down nearly 16% compared with the prior year.	[16:47]
pete_dushenski	but global warming!	[16:47]
pete_dushenski	"What happened? The short answer is: cheap gas prices."	[16:47]
pete_dushenski	"with $2 gas being commonplace, the Prius is only viewed as a smart financial choice by drivers “who stink at math.”"	[16:47]
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pete_dushenski	" among other reasons, its fuel efficiency advantage over the competition has shrunk substantially, and Tesla has emerged as the green car of choice that’s not only environmentally friendly, but stylish and a rip-roaring hoot to drive as well."	[16:48]
pete_dushenski	"The cachet of the Prius has dissipated in the years since because,"	[16:48]
pete_dushenski	damn that shit's too funny	[16:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]	[16:49]
pete_dushenski	funny how clarkson called the prius out for being a poser's turd back in 07 or whatever	[16:49]
pete_dushenski	and pointed out that the battery required rare earths from all over creation and was therefore, cradle to cradle, less enviromentally conscientious	[16:50]
pete_dushenski	and now, go figure that clarkson is all wooed by the i8	[16:51]
thestringpuller	oh lookie lookie a pete_dushenski	[16:53]
pete_dushenski	heya	[16:53]
thestringpuller	having fun at degrassi jr. high?	[16:54]
thestringpuller	jkjk	[16:54]
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thestringpuller	!up bigtip	[16:54]
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danielpbarron	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30828694	[16:55]
assbot	BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug	[16:55]
pete_dushenski	thestringpuller me and drizzy ;)	[16:55]
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thestringpuller	oh yea canadians do have drake	[16:57]
thestringpuller	i say he makes up for justin bieber	[16:57]
thestringpuller	so this chick was down here in the studio my friend interned at	[16:57]
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thestringpuller	some 15 year old chick polow da don was trying to pimp (of throw's some d's on it fame)	[16:58]
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thestringpuller	anyhow she was at one of Drake's parties and Bieber was there	[16:58]
thestringpuller	and Drake really doesn't like Bieber, but somehow kid shows up anywas	[16:58]
thestringpuller	So Drake starts rolling a blunt and won't pass it to Bieber	[16:58]
thestringpuller	and Bieber has a straight up temper trantrum	[16:58]
pete_dushenski	lol	[16:58]
pete_dushenski	men only	[16:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1921 @ 0.00063728 = 1.2242 BTC [-] {5}	[16:59]
pete_dushenski	^amhash1 getting pretty close to 50% of ipo value.	[16:59]
pete_dushenski	has it been 6 months already?	[16:59]
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thestringpuller	should be a metric of how quick Mining bonds depreciate in value	[17:00]
thestringpuller	or maybe there just shouldn't be mining bonds at all ~_~	[17:00]
pete_dushenski	so it looks like sony doesn't want to be the hardware company that goes down in horrible flames racing to the bottom	[17:01]
pete_dushenski	they're releasing a $1200 walkman!	[17:01]
pete_dushenski	150mb songs	[17:01]
pete_dushenski	for supah megah qualité	[17:01]
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pete_dushenski	thestringpuller there is a metric, see trilema	[17:02]
pete_dushenski	50% in 6 months	[17:02]
pete_dushenski	:)	[17:02]
thestringpuller	XD	[17:02]
thestringpuller	which trilema	[17:02]
thestringpuller	as trilema is a library with no dewey decimal	[17:02]
pete_dushenski	mighta been pmb's	[17:02]
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pete_dushenski	(perpetual mining bonds)	[17:02]
thestringpuller	that 1200 dollar walkman just looks like a glorified flac player	[17:04]
thestringpuller	wut 4. audiophiles rip vinyl to walkman?	[17:04]
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pete_dushenski	mebbe	[17:05]
pete_dushenski	i mostly just like that it's at least trying to be premium	[17:06]
pete_dushenski	and not just in an lv gucci prada way	[17:06]
pete_dushenski	and why not rip vinyl to walkman?	[17:06]
pete_dushenski	not like you have a vinyl player in your camry	[17:06]
pete_dushenski	or at the coffee shop	[17:06]
pete_dushenski	or out on a walk	[17:07]
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thestringpuller	lol	[17:13]
kakobrekla	in case you missed it	[17:16]
kakobrekla	https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png	[17:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1C5igLB )	[17:16]
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cazalla	https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/555821164661321728 pretty lulzy if true	[17:55]
assbot	Defense's alternative theory seems to be that MARK KARPELES OF MT GOX and one other were the real DPR. /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash	[17:55]
fluffypony	lol	[17:56]
fluffypony	Karpeles getting blamed for errthing	[17:56]
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bitstein	https://twitter.com/a_greenberg/status/555827037488037889	[17:57]
assbot	To be clear, everyone, defense has NOT made the argument Mark Karpeles was DPR, instead got a DHS agent to admit he was a suspect	[17:57]
TomServo	wat, nowai	[17:58]
ben_vulpes	[] i have recently discovered grocery delivery << i like it too, except i just have lady v do it	[18:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3075 @ 0.00063401 = 1.9496 BTC [-]	[18:02]
thestringpuller	stop being a sexist ben_vulpes	[18:02]
ben_vulpes	baby girl's on payroll	[18:05]
ben_vulpes	chef, grocery shopper, dog walker	[18:05]
mats	you're cool	[18:05]
ben_vulpes	i ain't sexist	[18:05]
ben_vulpes	i'm an employah	[18:05]
kakobrekla	me too	[18:06]
kakobrekla	even got her a no-show job.	[18:06]
thestringpuller	what is a no show job?	[18:06]
mats	being on payroll without working	[18:07]
thestringpuller	so communism?	[18:07]
ben_vulpes	well it's my personal payroll as opposed to the company payroll, assholes	[18:07]
thestringpuller	so ben_vulpes lets his wife indulge in socialism?	[18:07]
ben_vulpes	but as soon as i figure out the non profit hustle in the states i'm going to get myself a lobbying job	[18:07]
mats	wat	[18:08]
ben_vulpes	thestringpuller: more like, i indulge in capitalism	[18:08]
mats	how much does a gigolo cost these days?	[18:08]
ben_vulpes	this involves buying what i want.	[18:08]
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asciilifeform	lol, we all keep pets ?	[18:09]
ben_vulpes	husbandry, right up there in the list of ancient professions.	[18:11]
ben_vulpes	https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2sagqu/since_bitcoin_has_lost_a_lot_of_value_since_the/cnpxp80 << dafuq is CHF	[18:14]
assbot	vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/17Ms6ad )	[18:14]
kakobrekla	ben_vulpes swiss franc	[18:16]
kakobrekla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2015#978561	[18:16]
assbot	Logged on 15-01-2015 20:12:53; kakobrekla: https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png	[18:16]
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davout	good evening!	[18:17]
kakobrekla	^^ re chf, a few folks committed suicide today cause of it.	[18:17]
kakobrekla	and a few banks will close in the following months.	[18:17]
kakobrekla	they will try to hide it first.	[18:17]
kakobrekla	also some fx brokerages closed.	[18:18]
kakobrekla	like a nuke fell.	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug << aww that';s so cute	[18:19]
davout	kakobrekla: dat swan. such black.	[18:19]
kakobrekla	hehe	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	but is it driving adoption ?	[18:20]
davout	there was antonopoulos' ama on the driving adoption side	[18:20]
davout	:D	[18:20]
kakobrekla	well, there will be more orphans so i perhaps more adoptions	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	"our plan to drive adoption is twofold : first, make a lot of people off themselves. their thus orphaned offspring, will, necessarily, be adopted. we will endeavour to drive as many as possible, but some might have to walk."	[18:20]
davout	first question: "waddaya think about block size"	[18:21]
kakobrekla	-i	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	davout this because clearly the fork won't fail, but contrairiwise	[18:21]
davout	he said things should be fixed when they actually become a problem	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	not bad for a dead man.	[18:22]
davout	aka "next question please"	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	so what, o'reilly smelled the gunpowder and is splitting from the scam foundation ? or are they actually yielding in corpore but still trying to protect gavin's head from my platter ?	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	cazalla: pretty lulzy if true << not as much a matter of true as a matter of holy shit, that trial will be a coin toss. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#976369 still curtious on that point.	[18:24]
assbot	Logged on 14-01-2015 00:16:10; mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.	[18:24]
davout	meanwhile, bitcoin foundation's executive director on twitter... https://twitter.com/virtuallylaw/status/555829864075243521	[18:25]
assbot	/petertoddbtc got it. I'd take it with many grains of salt. That would be nuts...	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes: chef, grocery shopper, dog walker <<< burlesque dancer, escort ?	[18:25]
ben_vulpes	does escort me around myeah :D	[18:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19841 @ 0.00042713 = 8.4747 BTC [-] {2}	[18:38]
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ben_vulpes	http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/01/the-failure-of-a-past-basic-income-guarantee-the-speenhamland-system.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29 << i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not	[18:47]
assbot	The Failure of a Past Basic Income Guarantee, the Speenhamland System \| naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE1wNB )	[18:47]
ben_vulpes	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/bitcoin-is-revealed-a-ponzi-scheme-for-redistributing-wealth-from-one-libertarian-to-another/ << derpy but sorta interesting points in the third to last pp	[18:49]
assbot	Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2b1u )	[18:49]
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davout	http://fr.anco.is/2015/01/15/x-eur-january-15th-2015-statement/	[18:50]
assbot	X.EUR January 15th 2015 statement \| fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2dql )	[18:50]
davout	so far the best investment in january: +64%	[18:51]
asciilifeform	^ again repeats the 'no inherent value' crock of shit	[18:51]
kakobrekla	cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy.	[18:52]
kakobrekla	no article about that eh.	[18:53]
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asciilifeform	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/nsa-employee-will-continue-to-co-chair-influential-crypto-standards-group << mega-lol	[19:02]
assbot	NSA employee will continue to co-chair influential crypto standards group \| Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE5DcG )	[19:02]
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kakobrekla	o looks like ukto/ukyo is in jail	[19:10]
kakobrekla	twist: not for bitcoin fraud.	[19:11]
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kakobrekla	some wtf here: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da	[19:12]
assbot	Bitcoin Trader Accused of Murder Says He Was Tied Up, Forced to Sell Stocks - Astoria - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE8rGJ )	[19:12]
kakobrekla	afaik not	[19:18]
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thestringpuller	where is the utko news then?	[19:18]
thestringpuller	~_~	[19:18]
joecool	;;gpg info ukyo	[19:19]
gribble	No such user registered.	[19:19]
thestringpuller	;;gpg info utko	[19:19]
gribble	No such user registered.	[19:19]
thestringpuller	;;gpg info ukto	[19:19]
gribble	User 'ukto', with keyid 61D2F81E4BFEEF11, fingerprint 004467FBE2285A57978AA34A61D2F81E4BFEEF11, and bitcoin address None, registered on Tue Jun 14 22:19:01 2011, last authed on Sun Sep 4 11:57:45 2011. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=ukto . Currently not authenticated.	[19:19]
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kakobrekla	re ukto news is from tardstalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg9845674#msg9845674	[19:27]
assbot	[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEbYEK )	[19:27]
kakobrekla	a month old.	[19:27]
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mircea_popescu	https://i.imgur.com/OEC7s6Y.jpg << check out "the man responsible" lolz	[20:46]
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mircea_popescu	lol gotta love the forum derps. "o hai we're here in the swamp isolated from the goings on in bitcoin. how come we have nfi what's going on ???"	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	uh i dunno...	[20:50]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not << depends on the definition of guaranteed job. guaranteed payments are always inflationary - that's the very definition of inflation : payment without a counterprestation. jobs however can be guaranteed in such a way that prestation is at the same time guaranteed, at least theoretically.	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	consider my alt economy where the currency is teeth. every person can be guaranteed a job as selftooth extractor, paying 30 teeth over their lifetime.	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	now, irl the cow's not spherical nor does it live in a vacuum, but hey.	[20:56]
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mircea_popescu	washington post article is especially niggardly, which is what one'd expect from the vanguard of us socialism. "o noes, if you look at just this portion of the graph, bitcoin has been falling".	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	guess what, by the same measure apple, ibm, the us fed and washington post stock are all ponzi schemes.	[20:58]
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mircea_popescu	http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GHC+Interactive#symbol=GHC;range=1y look at that, from 900 to 500!	[20:59]
assbot	GHC Interactive Stock Chart \| Yahoo! Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3cj0q )	[20:59]
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mircea_popescu	Matt O'Brien is a reporter for Wonkblog covering economic affairs. He was previously a senior associate editor at The Atlantic. He is also an idiot soon to be permanently unemployed.	[21:00]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy. << well... that's a point there, canada totally is a ponzi scheme.	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i don't get it, in what sense is CFRG/ietf influential ?	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	gavin isn't quitting the scam foundation either, and obviously the msm would present it as "influential". what's it influence, reddit ?	[21:03]
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cazalla	http://qntra.net/2015/01/its-easy-to-call-us-a-tiny-minority-when-you-engage-in-vote-manipulation/	[21:04]
assbot	It's Easy To Call Us A Tiny Minority When You Engage In Vote Manipulation \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3d8Xc )	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	easy, but unproductive.	[21:06]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg << 'influential' in the sense of perfect position for slow and subtle shitgnomification of various protocols	[21:06]
assbot	Active IETF Working Groups ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3dxZs )	[21:06]
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asciilifeform	http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cfrg/current/msg03554.html << for n00bs	[21:07]
assbot	[Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3dJbg )	[21:07]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i don't know anyone is actually using their protocols for serious work anymore than anyone'd be using the foundation crapolade for any serious work.	[21:09]
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thestringpuller	Dr. Popescu	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	It was a driving, vigorous, restless population in those days. It was a curious population. It was the only population of the kind that the world has ever seen gathered together, and it is not likely that the world will ever see its like again. For observe, it was an assemblage of two hundred thousand young men—not simpering, dainty, kid-gloved weaklings, but stalwart, muscular, dauntless young braves, brimful of pus	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	h and energy, and royally endowed with every attribute that goes to make up a peerless and magnificent manhood—the very pick and choice of the world's glorious ones. No women, no children, no gray and stooping veterans,—none but erect, bright-eyed, quick-moving, strong-handed young giants—the strangest population, the finest population, the most gallant host that ever trooped down the startled solitudes of an unp	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	eopled land. And where are they now? Scattered to the ends of the earth—or prematurely aged and decrepit—or shot or stabbed in street affrays—or dead of disappointed hopes and broken hearts—all gone, or nearly all—victims devoted upon the altar of the golden calf—the noblest holocaust that ever wafted its sacrificial incense heavenward. It is pitiful to think upon.	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	It was a splendid population—for all the slow, sleepy, sluggish-brained sloths staid at home—you never find that sort of people among pioneers—you cannot build pioneers out of that sort of material. It was that population that gave to California a name for getting up astounding enterprises and rushing them through with a magnificent dash and daring and a recklessness of cost or consequences, which she bears unto	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	this day—and when she projects a new surprise, the grave world smiles as usual, and says "Well, that is California all over."	[21:10]
Apocalyptic	cazalla, "That that article"	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	check it out! i found what vc's are trying to live off today! a ~150 year old corpse!	[21:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 396 @ 0.00676765 = 2.68 BTC [+] {6}	[21:11]
cazalla	Apocalyptic, reads OK to me	[21:11]
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mircea_popescu	PeterL ppl's be bitching bout scoopbot all day. wha happened ?	[21:12]
PeterL	dunno, seems it lost its connection to irc	[21:12]
PeterL	TomServo here?	[21:12]
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Apocalyptic	myeah, altought it's not the most fortunate sentence construction	[21:14]
ben_vulpes	http://internet.gawker.com/silk-road-trial-defense-says-mt-gox-ceo-is-the-real-d-1679786377/+maxread << (internet.gawker.com???)	[21:15]
assbot	Silk Road Trial: Defense Says Mt. Gox CEO Is the Real Drug Lord ... ( http://bit.ly/1E5JTnh )	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	they revolutionized the www	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	such lulz	[21:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 174 @ 0.00699999 = 1.218 BTC [+] {6}	[21:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 178 @ 0.00699999 = 1.246 BTC [+] {6}	[21:17]
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Apocalyptic	"Der-Yeghiayan testified that his own investigation had found that Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered silkroadmarket.org as a means to publicize the site further."	[21:24]
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mircea_popescu	Something very important happened. The property holders of Nevada voted against the State Constitution; but the folks who had nothing to lose were in the majority, and carried the measure over their heads. But after all it did not immediately look like a disaster, though unquestionably it was one I hesitated, calculated the chances, and then concluded not to sell. Stocks went on rising; speculation went mad; bankers, m	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	erchants, lawyers, doctors, mechanics, laborers, even the very washerwomen and servant girls, were putting up their earnings on silver stocks, and every sun that rose in the morning went down on paupers enriched and rich men beggared. What a gambling carnival it was! Gould and Curry soared to six thousand three hundred dollars a foot! And then—all of a sudden, out went the bottom and everything and everybody went to	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	ruin and destruction! The wreck was complete.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	The bubble scarcely left a microscopic moisture behind it. I was an early beggar and a thorough one. My hoarded stocks were not worth the paper they were printed on. I threw them all away. I, the cheerful idiot that had been squandering money like water, and thought myself beyond the reach of misfortune, had not now as much as fifty dollars when I gathered together my various debts and paid them. I removed from the hot	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	el to a very private boarding house. I took a reporter's berth and went to work. I was not entirely broken in spirit, for I was building confidently on the sale of the silver mine in the east. But I could not hear from Dan. My letters miscarried or were not answered.	[21:26]
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mircea_popescu	what a fortunate thing it is that in bitcoin, unlike in the united states, men with no means have no vote.	[21:26]
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thestringpuller	stop disenfranching the poor mircea_popescu	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	im not disenfranchising them. i merely don't value their arbitrary enfranchisement more than i value a paper fixing new orbits for the solar system.	[21:30]
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thestringpuller	but don't you want more adoption?!?	[21:32]
PeterL	when they adopt bitcoin they gets some say	[21:32]
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TomServo	PeterL: Allo	[21:36]
PeterL	allo	[21:36]
PeterL	you say you might be able to help with hosting scoopbot?	[21:36]
TomServo	Sure	[21:37]
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thestringpuller	!b 4	[21:54]
assbot	Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3AZFKA2.txt )	[21:54]
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BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/johndalton/status/555825090168762368	[22:05]
assbot	"Some people think I'm nice & are shocked when they find out different. I'm not a nice person, & I don't care about you." --Linus /hashtag/lca2015?src=hash	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	guy gets it.	[22:07]
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scoopbot	New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/what-does-desperation-look-like/	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	o wb scoopbot	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	PeterL wha was the issue with it ?	[22:19]
PeterL	I'm still trying to figure out	[22:19]
PeterL	yesterday my host went down, not sure why bot stopped today	[22:20]
PeterL	I'm going to try hacking in an autorestart again	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	if you can use cpanel i can set you up momentarily.	[22:20]
PeterL	oh?	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	sure ?	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	all you gotta do is ask and generally, explain what the problems are you know.	[22:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31187 @ 0.00042338 = 13.204 BTC [-]	[22:22]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: seems to work better as time goes on and more resources are available :P	[22:23]
thestringpuller	except sleep	[22:23]
thestringpuller	can't seem to get enough of that	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	:)	[22:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00042064 = 2.2084 BTC [-]	[22:23]
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thestringpuller	ben_vulpes: i'm addicted to docker	[22:33]
thestringpuller	trying to learn how to run supervisord	[22:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00042143 = 9.0607 BTC [+] {2}	[23:01]
asciilifeform	'fun' discovery of the day. freebsd 'tmpfs' created under kernel built with gcc will not be mounted by kernel built with llvm.	[23:02]
asciilifeform	this is (almost certainly, i did not check but it seems like a no-brainer) on account of those parts of c which are not in fact standardized in any meaningful way (e.g., 'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout)	[23:03]
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asciilifeform	ergo llvm is a piece of shit, though it works and is internally consistent (presumably) - by the same logic, i would argue, as 'gavincoin' is a spurious turd	[23:03]
asciilifeform	in that it presents as meeting a certain set of expectations, which are violated six times every morning before breakfast, and rest assured the authors will say 'no matter'	[23:04]
asciilifeform	incidentally, this is an issue first documented in (afaik, at least as early as) 2011, and remains unpatched. because actually fixing would require that one side 'surrender'	[23:05]
asciilifeform	i.e., accept the layouts of the other.	[23:05]
asciilifeform	very interestingly, there is scarcely any discussion of this matter on the net, besides two or three single-paragraph forum posts.	[23:06]
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ben_vulpes	thestringpuller: no!	[23:13]
ben_vulpes	no supervisord	[23:14]
ben_vulpes	one process per container	[23:14]
ben_vulpes	docker run -d to daemonize the proc in container	[23:14]
BingoBoingo	!up moldysnizz	[23:14]
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moldysnizz	Well, hi there.	[23:15]
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BingoBoingo	!up mike_c	[23:17]
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mike_c	down, down! first time in forever i can auth myself :)	[23:17]
BingoBoingo	!down mike_c	[23:17]
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mike_c	ah, nice to have all the robots back.	[23:17]
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BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/olivierjanss/status/555889044618346498	[23:29]
assbot	I have black on white proof of Mark Karpeles making multiple death threats against an ex-employee. So does Japanese police. /hashtag/RossUlbricht?src=hash	[23:29]
ben_vulpes	(black and white, but whatever)	[23:31]
BingoBoingo	Make be the proof really is black on white.	[23:31]
Apocalyptic	funny thing	[23:32]
Apocalyptic	" [03:19:56] Ashley Barr is a guy who worked at MtGox who lived in (White Rock) Vancouver. DPR is quoted to wanting a guy in White Rock murdered"	[23:32]
BingoBoingo	o.O	[23:34]
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Apocalyptic	ben_vulpes, he's french	[23:35]
ben_vulpes	shitty excuse if you ask me	[23:35]
Apocalyptic	probably a literal translation of "noir sur blanc" as the idiomatic expression goes	[23:36]
ben_vulpes	no but you see american english is the only english	[23:36]
Apocalyptic	you're a language terrorist nao ?	[23:37]
cazalla	mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, sent each of you an email	[23:37]
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mircea_popescu	'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout << struct fo sho	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	cool deal cazalla	[23:52]
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mircea_popescu	PeterL: X-Failed-Recipients: peter-at-btcscoop.com	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	otherwise, http://pastebin.com/t9UKJGfx	[23:59]
assbot	-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) hQQOAy/yVjmzb - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bzjw9R )	[23:59]

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