Forum logs for 14 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

danielpbarron	devthedev, ya	[00:00]
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devthedev	ha, https://twitter.com/DevinSenaUI/status/521765043659362304	[00:02]
assbot	If ISIS takes Baghdad... just... wow. Freaking US better do SOMETHING other than shooting spitballs at them from the sky. /hashtag/ISIS?src=hash /hashtag/ISIL?src=hash /hashtag/USA?src=hash	[00:02]
BingoBoingo	http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/10/13/1814223/secretive-x-37b-military-space-plane-could-land-on-tuesday	[00:06]
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assbot	Secretive X-37B Military Space Plane Could Land On Tuesday - Slashdot	[00:06]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: Adlai: now go and see reaction time vs. intelligence (take your pick of any known simple test for either of the two). disturbingly close. 0.8, if i recall. << til again! this would explain why i was one of the very few non-asian kids playing badminton at a high junior level.	[00:07]
pete_dushenski	diametric: i'll change my nick for 10 bitcoin. << for 10 bitcents it might be worth it do not confuse you with decimation	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	they think they are in Bitcoin and are on over 100 radio stations in the US << worst comes to worst we'll have some lulz.	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	lol if. what if.	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski this would explain why i was one of the very few non-asian kids playing badminton at a high junior level. << well, either that or the other kids thinking badminton's for fags and nobody having translated the memo in azn ?	[00:10]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: ya asian kids don't hockey so well.	[00:14]
pete_dushenski	that's pretty much the extent of the needed translation: "you're small and frail. go play badminton."	[00:15]
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pete_dushenski	as a result, the asian kids and i aren't suffering from the braindamage of a few dozen concussions mixed with cum crackers.	[00:16]
pete_dushenski	fags 1: hockey 0	[00:17]
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BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: There aren't very many black or hispanic hockey player either, thoughts from up north?	[00:19]
TheNewDeal	they just don't play	[00:20]
TheNewDeal	it's not that they would be bad	[00:20]
BingoBoingo	The few that play do tend to be really good.	[00:20]
mod6	There was a black kid I played with. Broke his arm.	[00:20]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: there aren't that many of either of those peoples who find their way into the arctic. they prefer equatorial zones.	[00:20]
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thickasthieves	;;ticker	[00:20]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 395.45, Best ask: 395.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 395.77, 24 hour volume: 21705.15008897, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 396.89, 24 hour vwap: 379.96685681	[00:20]
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mod6	%ob	[00:23]
atcbot	7k@266 99k@255 30k@225 \| 2k@195 45k@190 4k@185	[00:23]
mod6	;;bc,stats	[00:27]
gribble	Current Blocks: 325197 \| Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 \| Next Difficulty In: 1394 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 18 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 36634046167.6 \| Estimated Percent Change: 4.66128	[00:27]
mod6	%d	[00:27]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 318823.44 in 234 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.02	[00:27]
thestringpuller	%tlsb	[00:27]
mod6	bzzt	[00:27]
thestringpuller	%tslb	[00:27]
atcbot	Time Since Last ATC Block (#46134): 1 hour(s), 38 minutes	[00:27]
thestringpuller	:(	[00:27]
mod6	:>	[00:28]
mod6	%p	[00:28]
atcbot	>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1301.09 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 2.03 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.63 TH/s	[00:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 75 @ 0.03704643 = 2.7785 BTC [-] {9}	[00:28]
mod6	how's it hangin tsp?	[00:28]
pete_dushenski	;;bc,stats	[00:29]
gribble	Current Blocks: 325198 \| Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 \| Next Difficulty In: 1393 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 3 hours, 56 minutes, and 50 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 36583567526.4 \| Estimated Percent Change: 4.51707	[00:29]
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X-Rob	mircea_popescu: I'm happy to take .21btc, but you're ripping yourself off.	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	as a result, the asian kids and i aren't suffering from the braindamage of a few dozen concussions mixed with cum crackers. << they still do the cum crackers ?!	[00:29]
pete_dushenski	o most definitely.	[00:29]
X-Rob	.17 is more realistic	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	X-Rob i was just being ironic and everything	[00:30]
X-Rob	8)	[00:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00073966 = 26.5168 BTC [-] {2}	[00:32]
BingoBoingo	O.o xanthyos	[00:32]
BingoBoingo	!up xanthyos	[00:32]
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BingoBoingo	;;ident xanthyos	[00:32]
gribble	Nick 'xanthyos', with hostmask 'xanthyos!xanthyos@silenceisdefeat.com', is identified as user 'xanthyos', with GPG key id B62E7295387001E9, key fingerprint DB744745C970CF95E27AE214B62E7295387001E9, and bitcoin address None	[00:32]
xanthyos	gribble and chanserv are fighting over who wants to authenticate me	[00:33]
xanthyos	guess chanserv has to go first	[00:34]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: there's no age limit, you can be an adult at about 12. << thus, bar/bat mitzvah.	[00:36]
pete_dushenski	treat the wee jooz like adults from that point on and maybe they can run a bank, movie studio, etc. without fucking it up.	[00:38]
bounce	so you're advocating the jooz should run teh coontry now? like the big joo conspiracy isn't a bad thing or something.	[00:42]
mod6	%vwap s.mpoe	[00:42]
mod6	bah	[00:42]
mod6	$vwap s.mpoe	[00:42]
empyex	mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00073908 high: 0.00074368 low: 0.00073411 volume: 1783412 btc: 1318.08000386 7 day: average: 0.00074037 high: 0.00074875 low: 0.00073411 volume: 5366781 btc: 3973.38786209 30 day: average: 0.00074688 high: 0.0007685 low: 0.00073411 volume: 21693517 btc: 16202.4226007	[00:42]
pete_dushenski	bounce: more that they're on to something. something that in some times and places is widely emulated. others, not.	[00:43]
bounce	plenty tribes have that sort of ritual. them jooz still see themselves as a tribe, so it fits.	[00:44]
pete_dushenski	being a numerate, literate adult is a worthwhile goal, neh?	[00:44]
bounce	not unrelatedly, confirmation in the catholic church.	[00:44]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo >Surveillance Mogul: Make Bitcoin Like Paypal < last link/sentence is a bit off	[00:44]
BingoBoingo	Alignment corrected	[00:45]
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thestringpuller	mod6: it makes me sad to see the block lagging for ATC	[00:48]
BingoBoingo	Oh, the things wrong with this web design https://citizenfourfilm.com/	[00:48]
assbot	Home \| CITIZENFOUR	[00:48]
xanthyos	actually it's mostly the goyim who project the tribal label onto the jews	[00:50]
xanthyos	the majority of jews are secularists	[00:50]
BingoBoingo	%tslb	[00:50]
atcbot	Time Since Last ATC Block (#46135): 0 hour(s), 20 minutes	[00:50]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: how can one love anything about nyc << pretty much my thoughts exactly, being the soul-depleting shithole that it is.	[00:52]
xanthyos	nyc is a nice place if you don't have to drive in it	[00:52]
xanthyos	except when it's too hot, or cold, or smelling like pee	[00:53]
xanthyos	or garbage water	[00:53]
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thestringpuller	good evening hanbot	[00:54]
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pete_dushenski	xanthyos: last time i was there is was cold, humid, and all too smelly. didn't leave an impression that i'm eager to rekindle.	[00:55]
mod6	thestringpuller: ya, it's been like that from jumpstreet	[00:56]
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BingoBoingo	!up CryptoGoon	[01:00]
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BingoBoingo	!up hguux	[01:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33393 @ 0.00073836 = 24.6561 BTC [-] {2}	[01:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4723 @ 0.00073676 = 3.4797 BTC [-]	[01:03]
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BingoBoingo	!up hagbardgroup	[01:07]
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mod6	thestringpuller: here you can see the diff chart (180 days), http://atc.blockr.io/charts - that's when they mined the shit out of it driving the diff up by 4x	[01:10]
mod6	just before aug 15	[01:10]
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mod6	alas: http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/	[01:15]
assbot	The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as “cryptocurrencies” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[01:15]
mod6	;;ticker	[01:17]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 401.85, Best ask: 402.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 401.8, 24 hour volume: 25083.84738000, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 405.0, 24 hour vwap: 383.112657872	[01:17]
mod6	speaking of the one and only...	[01:18]
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BingoBoingo	!b 5	[01:19]
assbot	Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0YY9HX0.txt )	[01:19]
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mod6	http://qntra.net/2014/10/surveillance-mogul-make-bitcoin-like-paypal/ << herp^derp	[01:33]
assbot	Surveillance Mogul: Make Bitcoin Like Paypal	[01:33]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/regulating-bitcoin-and-block-chain-derivatives-by-houman-b-shadab/	[01:37]
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kakobrekla	awww, so close to Shadap	[01:39]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[01:39]
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assbot	ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4	[01:46]
PeterL	!up nanjashogun	[01:46]
PeterL	!up ninjashogun	[01:47]
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ninjashogun	thanks, peter	[01:47]
PeterL	yw	[01:47]
PeterL	havn't you been around here a while? why no self-voicing?	[01:48]
mats_cd03	he doesn't have any fans	[01:48]
PeterL	ninjashogun: I'm the startup founder you talked with before - I hvae the two projects/companies farther along, that I don't think we discussed, and I bleieve we discussed the solar plane in depth. << yes, I remember that conversation	[01:49]
ninjashogun	PeterL, I only have troll ratings and one from Adlai	[01:49]
PeterL	I think I understand why	[01:49]
ninjashogun	PeterL not sure what hte voice requirements are exactly.	[01:49]
PeterL	you just have to have a positive L2 from assbot	[01:49]
PeterL	;;gettrust assbot ninjashogun	[01:49]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask ninjashogun!~User@unaffiliated/ninjashogun. Trust relationship from user assbot to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=ninjashogun \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun \| Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014	[01:49]
ninjashogun	Also, I think that the trolls "won" because I'm not able to rate positively the people I have had good connectoins with (gribble says I 'don't qualify') so obviously they won't reciprocate. My ratings look like a troll's.	[01:49]
ninjashogun	For exmaple, i would rate you a 1 (easily) based on our previous conversation, but it wouldn't accept it.	[01:50]
ninjashogun	Someone said I should 'start over' and just make a new account, but I only have 1 entry in WoT (this one, where I'm authenticated) and I prefer to remain sane and normal until troll ratings come around.	[01:51]
kakobrekla	omg adlai what have you done.	[01:52]
ninjashogun	kakobrekla, relax, Peter gave me voice :)	[01:52]
ninjashogun	and hello to you too.	[01:52]
PeterL	I didn't see what adlai did, so this is not his fault	[01:53]
kakobrekla	suspekt everythink	[01:53]
ninjashogun	kakobrekla, :)	[01:54]
PeterL	ninjashogun: it does not inspire trust that you come here under different names	[01:54]
ninjashogun	I didn't. This is hte only WoT entry.	[01:54]
ninjashogun	PeterL even though as you can see I am immediately being trolled :) It's okay though, I guess this is part of the process. I saw totally normal people being driven out of here by the trolling. It's like a rite of passage though, I don't mind.	[01:56]
PeterL	and as to our previous conversation, solar power increases as the square of the scale, weight increases as the cube of the scale, so while solar power might work for model airplanes it will be infeasible for carrying things	[01:56]
ninjashogun	PeterL as I mentioned before I prefer to discuss this privately. This is a logged channel.	[01:57]
ninjashogun	if you want to google why, search >patent law public disclosure< -- e..g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_disclosure	[01:57]
assbot	Public disclosure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[01:57]
ninjashogun	(for anyone following along, this is quite different than being private for hte sake of not fucking a product launch up.)	[01:58]
PeterL	what about being private for not wanting to be proven an idiot?	[01:58]
ninjashogun	PeterL, that's an interesting tone you strike. Out of curiosity, have you ever made anything? (other than promises)	[01:59]
ninjashogun	I mean actually made something.	[02:00]
PeterL	can you be more specific by "thing"?	[02:00]
kakobrekla	ninjashogun i wonder how come you scalped Adlai for a rating, was it because he is fresh and got a rating from mp	[02:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00074185 = 10.9052 BTC [+] {2}	[02:00]
ninjashogun	kakobrekla, he's just a normal guy. we just talked online. (no transactions or anything.)	[02:01]
kakobrekla	from all the normal guys...	[02:02]
BingoBoingo	I dun think Adlai knows better yet	[02:02]
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ninjashogun	BingoBoingo, what, that it's better to troll than to have a normal conversation and discuss something? No, he doesn't seem to have caught on. He also isn't very active in these channels though.	[02:03]
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BingoBoingo	ninjashogun: Stuff like Wi-Fi more secure than wires makes it hard to give your other ideas charitable interpretations, and I tried god damn it.	[02:04]
bounce	ninjashogun, according to you this channel must be full of "trolls". why then are you even here?	[02:05]
ninjashogun	BingoBoingo, reading my message to you on CNN is more secure than a wired link, if the former uses PKI and the latter doesn't. I'm sorry you don't know this distinction.	[02:05]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/521798316514750464	[02:05]
assbot	Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.	[02:05]
ninjashogun	you can read about it here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_key_infrastructure	[02:05]
assbot	Public key infrastructure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[02:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00074269 = 28.5193 BTC [+] {3}	[02:06]
ben_vulpes	ninjashogun: a solar plane?!	[02:06]
PeterL	ninjashogun: I didn't realize about the public disclosure thing, but it makes sense in the sense that patents last a certain number of years from when the thing is invented, and this keeps people from only filing the patent years later when they realize it is worth money	[02:06]
BingoBoingo	ninjashogun: What is easiest for the back van across the street to intercept though?	[02:06]
ninjashogun	bounce - it's not only full of trolls. Even though PeterL has just resorted to calling me an idiot (in keeping with this channel) he makes a good point about volume and weight. (Poorly expressed.)	[02:06]
ninjashogun	PeterL - yes, we discussed this previously, it was a condition of speaking with you about it.	[02:06]
bounce	that doesn't answer the question	[02:06]
PeterL	I didn't exactly call you an idiot, but if the shoe fits ...	[02:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13576 @ 0.00073971 = 10.0423 BTC [-]	[02:07]
ninjashogun	PeterL - Your point is okay but of course this is a counterexample http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Helios in the sense that this has a payload, and flies indefinitely. So the question is more one of degree than absolute feasability.	[02:07]
assbot	NASA Helios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[02:07]
ben_vulpes	hey why not an air-breathing mach-5 vehicle?	[02:08]
ben_vulpes	if the brits can do it, why can't ninjashogun?	[02:08]
ben_vulpes	after all, all he needs is capital and then the magic will happen!	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	ben_vulpes> hey why not an air-breathing mach-5 vehicle? << H00000000H	[02:08]
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bounce	I'd say "whoosh" but the sonic boom disagrees	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	!up jaggered	[02:08]
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ben_vulpes	;;google sabre engine	[02:08]
gribble	SABRE (rocket engine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Reaction Engines Ltd - The SABRE Engine: ; Reaction Engines Ltd - SABRE: How it works:	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	bounce: No, I'm proposing H00000000H as the fuel	[02:09]
PeterL	ninjashogun: NASA also put a guy on the moon, but there are no companies doing that (yet)	[02:09]
penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/butterfly-labs-seek-to-have-ftc-complaint-dismissed/	[02:09]
bounce	fuel? that would be a little inefficient.	[02:09]
ninjashogun	PeterL, well, sure, but if you call me an idiot and make an impossibility argument, then a counterexample weakens your case. It also makes it hard to collaborate. It's why I wondered if you ever got any projects to fruition, i.e. actually made anything. There is a continuum from idea through execution and name-caling isn't usually on there.	[02:10]
PeterL	I'm a chemist, I try to work with things that are possible	[02:11]
ben_vulpes	bitbet, mpex, qntra, war of life...	[02:11]
BingoBoingo	bounce: Nah, just build more rockets under it then sail the interstallar medium on inertia	[02:11]
ben_vulpes	no execution around, nope.	[02:11]
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ninjashogun	PeterL - in chemistry, if something exists it doesn't imply that it's chemically possible?	[02:12]
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BingoBoingo	ben_vulpes: Well... s.qntr lacks shares atm	[02:12]
bounce	so what would the expected phase of that stuff be? though note that O usually doesn't count as /fuel/	[02:13]
BingoBoingo	on the plus side s.qntr hopefully will help jurov with +coinbr	[02:13]
PeterL	well, we have heavy metals because fusion happened in stars, but I am not going to try making useful quantities of gold and silver in my lab	[02:13]
ninjashogun	PeterL good point.	[02:13]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo i dont use twitter but i fink it would be appropriate for qntra to get a feed. just a suggestion.	[02:13]
BingoBoingo	bounce: The expected phase is reacting so hard.	[02:14]
bounce	except that. sheesh.	[02:14]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Sgornick set one up and cazalla took it off him	[02:14]
ninjashogun	PeterL - It actually matches something really intreresting from patent law. Chemistry is actually one of the sciences where you need to fully e.g. synthesize the thing, actually make it, since it's considered an "unpredictable" art. In other areas it's just enough for it to be obvoius that the design works a certain way.	[02:14]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: https://twitter.com/qntra	[02:14]
kakobrekla	is it working?	[02:14]
assbot	Qntra (@qntra) \| Twitter	[02:14]
PeterL	speaking of s.qntr http://blog.btcscoop.com/infinitely-inflating-stock-s-qntr/	[02:14]
assbot	Infinitely inflating stock S.QNTR \| BTC Scoop Blog	[02:14]
kakobrekla	sort of working i see , cool :)	[02:15]
ninjashogun	see http://www.uclalawreview.org/?p=230 for example. Patents in chemistry are super super specific, based on actually synthesized things with very precise enablement steps only, and don't cover classes of things at all.	[02:15]
assbot	Heightened Enablement in the Unpredictable Arts « UCLA Law Review	[02:15]
*	dub read Hieghtened Entitlement	[02:16]
kakobrekla	should link it from the homepage	[02:16]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Will happen eventualy. At least RSS is on the homepage.	[02:17]
PeterL	some of the work I do is "let's synthesize X because it will work like Y (maybe?), which Other Company has a patent on"	[02:17]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, not yet i didn't	[02:18]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo feel free to say 'fuck off already'.	[02:18]
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BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: And end the jokes?	[02:18]
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kakobrekla	those cant be fucked off	[02:18]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: This is your chance to avenge all of the BitBet slurs.	[02:18]
kakobrekla	hehe	[02:19]
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BingoBoingo	Anyways fucking off is fun	[02:20]
BingoBoingo	And unlike MtGox I hack on live php withou knowing php or crashing the thing. All of those ======== make php friendly like that.	[02:22]
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kakobrekla	always add 'yet' with such things.	[02:22]
BingoBoingo	... yet.	[02:23]
BingoBoingo	... so far.	[02:24]
ben_vulpes	ninjashogun, PeterL: I know! let's build a rocket with RFNO!	[02:24]
ben_vulpes	it's totally possible! we should totally do it!	[02:25]
kakobrekla	;;google libratax	[02:25]
gribble	LibraTax - Accounting and tax software for Bitcoin, Ripple, and other ...: ; LibraTax (@Libra_Tax) \| Twitter: ; LibraTax Looks To Solve Bitcoin Tax Accounting-Related Woes ...:	[02:25]
ben_vulpes	it's even a good idea (tm)!	[02:25]
PeterL	what's rfno?	[02:25]
assbot	ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4	[02:25]
kakobrekla	!s libratax	[02:25]
assbot	0 results for 'libratax' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=libratax	[02:25]
kakobrekla	libratax, sounds as good as freedeath	[02:26]
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BingoBoingo	;;ud libra	[02:27]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=libra \| People born between September 24 and October 20. 7th sign. Represented by scales. Opposite sign = aries Gets along with = aries, libra, aquarius, g...	[02:27]
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*	BingoBoingo kinda anticipated an Italian bra	[02:27]
xanthyos	i was born on 9/26 and my mortal enemy is an aquarian. horoscopy isn't science	[02:28]
xanthyos	actually more than one	[02:28]
mike_c	you may not believe in astrology, but astrology believes in you.	[02:28]
xanthyos	i have 3 distinct aquarian enemies	[02:28]
xanthyos	astrology and oroscopy arent' the same	[02:29]
xanthyos	stars vs sun	[02:29]
xanthyos	not that either is legit	[02:29]
kakobrekla	cause star is not a sun	[02:29]
mike_c	hehe	[02:29]
ben_vulpes	PeterL: red fuming nitric oxide	[02:29]
ben_vulpes	one of the neater rocket fuels around	[02:29]
BingoBoingo	Colonoscopy is pretty legit though.	[02:29]
xanthyos	horo - horus - sun, astr- - star	[02:29]
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xanthyos	the ancients didn't see the sun as a star	[02:30]
PeterL	ben_vulpes: sounds like something fun to work with	[02:30]
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mike_c	who crappe don the logs this time?	[02:30]
mike_c	ahh, peterl	[02:30]
mike_c	upping ninjashogun is so masochistic.	[02:31]
PeterL	sorry, I didn't think it was that bad?	[02:31]
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mike_c	how many times has he asked you for money?	[02:31]
PeterL	when I upped him I didn't realize it was the same crackpot I had talked to before	[02:31]
BingoBoingo	PeterL: Over time he seems less bad, until he seems souper bad again.	[02:32]
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asciilifeform	http://www.wired.com/2014/10/nsa-mind-bender-wont-tell-info-already-leaked-media << mega-lol	[02:33]
assbot	NSA Mind-Bender: We Won't Tell You What Info We Already Leaked to the Media \| WIRED	[02:33]
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kakobrekla	lol	[02:35]
mike_c	[19:33] have you had a look at the logs? Usually it's barely legal porn and random derping.	[02:36]
mike_c	can't argue with that.	[02:36]
kakobrekla	shiiiiiiiiiiiii	[02:37]
kakobrekla	iiiiiiiiiiit.	[02:37]
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mike_c	when is b-a going to list itself on mpex and pay shares based on line count?	[02:38]
kakobrekla	first we need to start charging for them lines	[02:38]
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RagnarDanneskjol	http://www.gwern.net/Self-decrypting%20files	[02:41]
assbot	Time-lock encryption - Gwern.net	[02:41]
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asciilifeform	RagnarDanneskjol: same idiocy as the 'asic resistant altcoin' problem.	[02:42]
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asciilifeform	RagnarDanneskjol: you can easily come up with a non-parallelizable problem, but asking that 'no one have unfair advantage' is absurd.	[02:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00073676 = 1.6209 BTC [-]	[02:43]
RagnarDanneskjol	yes, ultimately limited to a single dedicated timekeeping box. still, he managed to flesh out the concept well	[02:48]
asciilifeform	there is no concept. the idea of releasing a crypted turd sans key is ancient.	[02:48]
asciilifeform	hell, captain kidd supposedly did it at his hanging.	[02:48]
RagnarDanneskjol	i knnow	[02:48]
asciilifeform	but it is in no sense a 'time lock.'	[02:49]
asciilifeform	for one thing, the clock doesn't tick unless someone actually gives a damn.	[02:49]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.11147999 = 3.3444 BTC [-] {4}	[02:50]
RagnarDanneskjol	successive squaring.. etc. but yes I concede your point. sorry, am at work righ now, unprepared to hash it out further	[02:53]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i discovered that the machine with the dithering lcd wasn't just dithering. it has a 'pentile' screen (hard-wired white pixel in the middle of each rgb element! for fraudulently increased apparent brightness.) had no idea this even existed.	[02:56]
asciilifeform	not every day one discovers a totally new scamatron, on own skin.	[02:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55100 @ 0.00073599 = 40.553 BTC [-] {3}	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i recall this being discussed before somewhere	[02:59]
asciilifeform	i'm sure it was	[02:59]
asciilifeform	but, missed it. didn't even suspect there was any further to go, through the already abysmal floor lcd quality dropped to.	[03:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0007359 = 1.7294 BTC [-]	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	i doubt the trend towards worse quality will change before sound money is reintroduced	[03:01]
mircea_popescu	generally fake money regimes induce this inflation-through-lowering-quality economic aberration	[03:02]
asciilifeform	what is interesting is that genuine product becomes unavailable at any price.	[03:02]
asciilifeform	short of financing its entire r&d starting from ore.	[03:02]
*	BingoBoingo waits for the cold unforgiving march of money to turn cardano toolchain into workstation.	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	well yes.	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	kinda why soviets became unpopular in central europe in the 80s	[03:03]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: this story is actually about a machine involved in my day job	[03:03]
mike_c	aren't those IPS screens supposed to be the shit?	[03:03]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I know, but... Nothing happens in isolation	[03:03]
asciilifeform	mike_c: ips in a laptop?	[03:03]
mike_c	dunno. am researching now, usually a good idea before opening one's mouth.	[03:04]
asciilifeform	mike_c: they exist, in theory, but nothing with 1000+ rows of pixels	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform sure, they exist, but not really feasible for laptop from what i recall	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	too much power draw or something	[03:06]
*	asciilifeform used that thing again for half hour, to test, and now has a truly astonishingly-powerful headache	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	http://atc.blockr.io/#!/charts << gotta say this is one of the few pages implementing graphs correctly	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	ty mod6	[03:08]
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kakobrekla	i have ips screen on lappy	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yep i have the same problem with newer laptops	[03:08]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: resolution ?	[03:08]
kakobrekla	it fails on that yea.	[03:09]
mike_c	mircea_popescu: what do you like about the graphs?	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	mike_c that they run on my browser.	[03:09]
penguirker	New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/newsweeklied-lied/	[03:09]
mike_c	heh. i haven't gotten into svg yet, seems worthwhile though.	[03:10]
mircea_popescu	ninjashogun: For exmaple, i would rate you a 1 (easily) based on our previous conversation, but it wouldn't accept it. << such pandering.	[03:11]
asciilifeform	the most infuriating thing is that the easiest way to increase vertical resolution (the only kind that really matters to me) is to turn the display 90 degrees, which is not doable on laptop.	[03:11]
asciilifeform	on every 'real' computer i own, i do it	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform in a sense, the fact that everyone today uses computers with porn screens, rather than coding screens	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	is clear proof the trolls have won.	[03:13]
asciilifeform	can't even imagine a respectable porn aficionado enjoying these	[03:13]
BingoBoingo	Like the world's biggest walmart http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nsa-660x440.jpeg	[03:13]
asciilifeform	at least, not for still shots	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform point being, they're cinematic screens (wider than tall) rather than coding screens (taller than wide)	[03:13]
asciilifeform	this, yes	[03:14]
asciilifeform	incidentally, notice xerox and original mit lisp machines - had correct (vertical) displays.	[03:14]
asciilifeform	but no, modified television for everybody. to this day.	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	so in bitbet board kako proposed a motion to give punkman 10k shares too, which passed. you got a mpex acct ? or coinbr ?	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it's what im sayin'.	[03:15]
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mircea_popescu	all this ninjashogun bs polluting the logs... i keep skipping, who knows what valuable contribution of some legitimate participant falls through cracks thusly	[03:17]
kakobrekla	we need like personalized filter	[03:18]
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asciilifeform	it really is time to start charging him for the privilege of using #b-a as a public urinal	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	!b 3	[03:18]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1CN9WYP.txt )	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah srsly i dunno why people keep upping him.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	up some porn star or something, at least boobs.	[03:18]
kakobrekla	i do wat i want	[03:18]
kakobrekla	o wait, it wasnt me.	[03:18]
asciilifeform	presumably to keep him addicted while the pay toilet coin hopper is wired in.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah, and then he'll ipo b-a voice on cryptsy	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	and you'll end up with 50 kids each contributing a nickle towards it	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo: And unlike MtGox I hack on live php withou knowing php or crashing the thing. <<< this is pretty much why people like php	[03:20]
kakobrekla	its like lisp in that sense	[03:20]
kakobrekla	lel	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[03:20]
BingoBoingo	It's a language you don't need to know to fix... so far...	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	pretty much like a kitchen appliance	[03:21]
BingoBoingo	If it gets really bad drop it on the counter	[03:21]
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mircea_popescu	assbot: NSA Mind-Bender: We Won't Tell You What Info We Already Leaked to the Media \| WIRED <<< i was having a lulz earlier at that	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	kinda reminescent of all sorts of bureaucratic nonsense early on in the snowden saga, when they still thought they're living in old world	[03:23]
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BingoBoingo	I still can't get over the misguided web design of the Snowden film website	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	mike_c: when is b-a going to list itself on mpex and pay shares based on line count? << http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/infinate-corectpowar.jpg	[03:24]
kakobrekla	well it does resemble a coil	[03:25]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: this works especially well on a cheap 'ups'.	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	lmao omfg.	[03:25]
mike_c	hehe	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	this somehow has not occured to me	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	i suppose the best way is to plug a router into itself and then the ups into itself making the coils go through each other	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	seti was doing it wrong	[03:28]
BingoBoingo	http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/fergusonoctober-protests-resume-with-actions-in-ferguson-first-arrests/article_c1752132-9731-542e-8525-1885fae7fd10.html	[03:28]
assbot	Arrest total upped to 42 at Ferguson police station on 'Moral Monday,' more events elsewhere : News	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	42 n ot bad	[03:28]
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BingoBoingo	At this point if St Louis gets an obola case, whites and blacks will prolly agree it is ebama's fault	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: hell, captain kidd supposedly did it at his hanging. << this.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/13/qntra-reaffirms-wot-irc-yeshiva-in-no-way-optional/ << wow lok at that, s.qntr got a fan	[03:32]
assbot	Qntra Reaffirms That The WoT And IRC Yeshiva Are In No Way Optional - Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski	[03:32]
cazalla	yeah but then qntra went and relaxed the guidelines, if need be anyway	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	like how ?	[03:33]
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BingoBoingo	Taleb could probably get an article in without 6 months reading.	[03:34]
cazalla	6 months logs part	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	well yea, but i mean, the only way to verify that part is through what the people say	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	as in, does this guy show understanding comensurate with a semester's reading	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	not like ninjashogun can come and say "hei guise, i got 6months in, that's it rite ???"	[03:36]
BingoBoingo	Well I dunno that ninjashogun has ever read anything. It might taint his seekrit ideas with prior art.	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	there is that yea	[03:38]
BingoBoingo	It is a disease of a lot of the swiftly discountable crackpots	[03:38]
asciilifeform	my favourite hypothesis re mr. spam is that he is a scammer masquerading as an incompetent usg case officer.	[03:38]
BingoBoingo	!b 7	[03:39]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Why can't he be both?	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i don't think anyone but you really sees the usg case officer angle.	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	not the right kind of derp.	[03:39]
BingoBoingo	I can see it.	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	maybe im just out of touch	[03:39]
BingoBoingo	Asks a lot of unanswerable questions about net worth. Derpy scammer is an angle usg has prolly tried before in tax cases.	[03:40]
asciilifeform	basic case master recipe from both sides of cold war - pretend to be an unrelated animal that nevertheless merits close access to the chumper's personal guts.	[03:41]
asciilifeform	e.g., a priest.	[03:41]
BingoBoingo	The impression of incompetence offers tha failed agent quite a bit of plausible deniability	[03:41]
asciilifeform	or 'co-phounder'	[03:42]
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assbot	ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4	[03:42]
asciilifeform	co-flounder?	[03:42]
nubbins`	wait, ninjashogun is a plant?!	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	reviewing records, it seems i've been on the capitulating side of this argument once before	[03:42]
nubbins`	but i opened my books to that guy	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	i dunno...	[03:42]
nubbins`	receipts, invoices, everything	[03:42]
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nubbins`	HE SAID HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` oh you	[03:42]
nubbins`	;/	[03:42]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: at least you didn't open up for the spores	[03:43]
asciilifeform	or didja.	[03:43]
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mircea_popescu	well there was that threesome in the woods...	[03:43]
nubbins`	the... spores...	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	someone should make a bitcoin scammer cartman. sort of a karpeles - tom van dyke - rpietilla mix.,	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	RESPECT MAH OPPORTUNITAH	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	his hat could be a silver cup.	[03:44]
BingoBoingo	I thought the tradehill crowd played that out already	[03:44]
BingoBoingo	except they kept their Cartmanland	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	srsly we need a good cartoon maker in here.	[03:44]
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mircea_popescu	!up menahem	[03:45]
-assbot-	You voiced menahem for 30 minutes.	[03:45]
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BingoBoingo	Well in 2016 should be able to afford the south park guys	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	i'd rather give some young uns a boost.	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	otherwise it feels just like jenifer lopez' mom winning the lottery	[03:46]
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asciilifeform	this really is ridiculous. Again, straight out of http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point --- straight harassment and trolling. Because you don't want to actually work on shipping product.	[03:47]
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asciilifeform	^ from our friend, mr spam	[03:47]
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BingoBoingo	Maybe ur using killfile wrong?	[03:48]
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mircea_popescu	"o look guise, i have an article which sais people make fun of idiots! therefore your making fun of my idiocy is rendered null and void!11"	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	what is this, the special internets ?	[03:49]
BingoBoingo	No, special internets has shorter bus and pipes	[03:49]
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BingoBoingo	!up mpmcsweeney	[03:50]
*	asciilifeform will probably have to switch to whitelist soon.	[03:50]
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asciilifeform	would be interesting to have #b-a-voiced-only pm whitelist plugin.	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	you can probably write it	[03:51]
asciilifeform	i could, yes. perhaps in peacetime.	[03:51]
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mircea_popescu	it's an interesting idea anyway. what do most people use, irssi ? xchat ?	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	emacs ?	[03:52]
asciilifeform	presently xchat	[03:52]
BingoBoingo	xchat atm	[03:52]
asciilifeform	anyone fess up to emacs ?	[03:52]
menahem	weechat	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: emacs would be interesting if Stallman surrended and just had it replace Hurd in his grand scheme	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	"bingbot 0.0.0 Ben Asselstine Bingbot turns you into an IRC cyborg. When someone says "uptime" to you, it answers them back with your uptime. When someone says "vi?" to you, it answers them back with the last file you opened in vim. When someone says "search: foo" to you, it gets a random link to a gif on imgur.com/r/gifs/new and shows them that. written in c++, requires glibmm, curlpp and sigc++."	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	holy shit. what is wrong with people	[03:53]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: elisp is a terrifyingly pre-1970s-style crock of shit. e.g., brings back the infamous 'funarg problem'	[03:54]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: is there one which invites strangers to format your hd?	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Still better than the x86 is nothing but shims all the way down problem	[03:54]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: you're more than welcome to boot straight into emacs even now.	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform on the basis of that description, easily extensible	[03:55]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: in fact, when, as a boy, i first read of lisp machines, i somehow thought this is how they worked.	[03:55]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Last time I tried that I realized I dun really know how to emax	[03:55]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: you may have to break down and get the book.	[03:56]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[03:56]
asciilifeform	if you don't have a greybeard to apprentice with.	[03:56]
BingoBoingo	None around here who won't steal my jools	[03:56]
asciilifeform	You seriously need to stop with the trolling. It is extremely unprofessional. I've already apologized for hurting your feelings.	[03:57]
asciilifeform	You also repeatedly mention me in a negative light, despite my not saying anything to you. Just stop.	[03:57]
asciilifeform	what is even the deal with xchat. / ignore user ALL doesn't seem to work.	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	so, how to break up with a girl subtler than sublte ?	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	bring her begonias	[03:58]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I thought carnations were the way.	[03:58]
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mircea_popescu	no but see... be-gone-yas	[03:59]
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BingoBoingo	Ah, around these parts carnations are "funeral flowers" So you bring the carnations and ask the girl if they remind her of anything. Inevitably she mentions an older relative. Then... That's about where we're at nao.	[04:00]
ben_vulpes	i fess up to emacs	[04:00]
Apocalyptic	what is even the deal with xchat. / ignore user ALL doesn't seem to work. // you have to provide a hostmask for	[04:00]
ben_vulpes	erc	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	works for me	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	it works srsly.	[04:01]
ben_vulpes	plus extensible with stallisp	[04:01]
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BingoBoingo	Might have to try begonias next time	[04:02]
ben_vulpes	irssi's okay. wacky wacky architecture tho.	[04:04]
BingoBoingo	How much did ebama pay her to spread obola? http://gawker.com/nbc-chief-medical-correspondent-quarantined-for-ebola-1645924287	[04:04]
assbot	NBC's Medical Correspondent is Quarantined for Ebola, Goes Out Anyway	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	jesus.	[04:04]
ben_vulpes	o.O	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	did she bareback a bunch of dudes at least ?	[04:05]
BingoBoingo	Who know?	[04:05]
BingoBoingo	The thing about ebola is that people talk about it either like it's the flu and easy to spead or GRIDS which is hard to spread when it is in the middle, but leaning closer to the flu	[04:06]
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mircea_popescu	actually it's pretty close to aids from what i gather.	[04:06]
BingoBoingo	But this shit doesn't work in two dimesions, because sweat can't spread GRIDS or the flu	[04:06]
asciilifeform	i'd like to see which one of us gets kicked off freenode first, for 'harrassing' mr spam.	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	uh	[04:09]
danielpbarron	lol	[04:09]
BingoBoingo	And it really is GRIDS rather than AIDS to shame the system that could not forsee that most cases would happen to hetrosexual african women.	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	what is this, lala land ?	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo come again ?	[04:10]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: The actual demographics of AIDS vs the history of AIDS naming	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	ah	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	anywya, it'll be hilarious once it comes out that whites actually have some natural resistence to the disease, which blacks do not. that sort of thing is what makes one suspect god is in it for the lulz.	[04:12]
xanthyos	<+mircea_popescu> no but see... be-gone-yas << this cryptic breakup pun is pilkingtonian	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	:p	[04:12]
asciilifeform	i suspect that quarantine on certain people will be enforced very honestly, while on others (as above example) - not quite.	[04:14]
asciilifeform	no historical example of this, afaik, but the totalitarian state is a rather young thing	[04:14]
asciilifeform	(though biowar is ancient...)	[04:15]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform> no historical example of this, afaik, but the totalitarian state is a rather young thing << Not so young, socrates tried to implement it	[04:15]
xanthyos	the fema camps full of empty coffins have already been built	[04:15]
asciilifeform	xanthyos: that story never made sense - why would we get own coffins	[04:16]
asciilifeform	what's wrong with old-fashioned mass grave.	[04:16]
asciilifeform	coffins! what luxury americans expect.	[04:16]
asciilifeform	how many of, e.g., stalin's, clients, got coffins.	[04:16]
xanthyos	it's more believable as a conspiracy theory if they don't go to the extent of telling the people there will be mass graves	[04:16]
asciilifeform	the hilarious part is, i can actually believe that they'd stockpile coffins.	[04:17]
xanthyos	maybe only the front row is coffins	[04:17]
asciilifeform	!s beetle men	[04:17]
assbot	2 results for 'beetle men' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=beetle+men	[04:17]
xanthyos	maybe there's a lobbyist in washington who works for big coffin	[04:17]
nubbins`	make em the right shape, you can nest 'em like wading pools.	[04:17]
nubbins`	after all, what is a coffin but an oblong Rubbermaid storage bin?	[04:17]
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asciilifeform	the rule-following beetle men, they will read 'victims must be buried in coffins' and literally order it done, in precisely that way	[04:18]
asciilifeform	identical 'rubbermaid' ones, made under contract #something, yes.	[04:18]
asciilifeform	if they're used, it'll be 3-4 clients per.	[04:19]
asciilifeform	otherwise, where to pack them all.	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	I like the people who say "come on obola isn't zombie plague" not realizing that unlike pretend zombie plague obola leaves people real dead.	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	xanthyos: that story never made sense - why would we get own coffins << it makes perfect sense if you consider it for the communicatioon exercise it actually is.	[04:19]
asciilifeform	actually it is quite like the zombie plague	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	what';s better than a large pile of symbolically meaningful items.	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Indeed	[04:19]
asciilifeform	in that, before final resting place, you get to amble about and infect.	[04:19]
xanthyos	ethanol prices go up because corn is used to make coffins from biodegreadeable vegetable cellulose	[04:20]
BingoBoingo	Also look how far people travel in their last days	[04:20]
asciilifeform	the more developed a welfare state, the juicier a target it will appear to these travellers.	[04:21]
asciilifeform	if there is an 'x' such that 'if only i can make it to x, i might live' - that's where they'll go.	[04:21]
BingoBoingo	Surprised moiety isn't returned asking for obola asylum in Australia	[04:21]
nubbins`	if only i can make it to terminus	[04:22]
xanthyos	heh i was thinking terminus as wel	[04:22]
xanthyos	:/	[04:22]
nubbins`	kyrio: hm, i had it in wikipedia for awhile that Seal's face was mauled by dogs as a child, stayed up for a year or so	[04:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00073802 = 12.5463 BTC [+]	[04:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.09906876 = 2.3777 BTC [-] {8}	[04:32]
asciilifeform	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/cidrap-we-believe-there-scientific-evidence-ebola-has-potential-be-airborne << with lit citations.	[04:33]
assbot	CIDRAP: "We Believe There Is Scientific Evidence Ebola Has The Potential To Be Airborne" \| Zero Hedge	[04:33]
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danielpbarron	put patient in catapult	[04:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32817 @ 0.00073757 = 24.2048 BTC [-]	[04:35]
asciilifeform	http://ispub.com/IJPRM/2/1/12768	[04:36]
assbot	Internet Scientific Publications	[04:36]
BingoBoingo	danielpbarron> put patient in catapult << Not necessary, warm humid atmosphere is probably sufficient. Or ISIS member with bomb vest.	[04:36]
asciilifeform	http://www.idahopress.com/news/local/radioactive-material-cleaned-from-boise-apartment/article_e8b5d496-5335-11e4-b968-d73b8eff28f0.html << unrelated but somehow familiar	[04:37]
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assbot	Radioactive material cleaned from Boise apartment - Idaho Press-Tribune: Local	[04:37]
danielpbarron	i was also thinking explosion, but wanted to point out this isn't reall an innovative idea	[04:38]
thickasthieves	<+mircea_popescu> seti was doing it wrong /// no, no, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w	[04:38]
assbot	Amazing Resonance Experiment! - YouTube	[04:38]
asciilifeform	thickasthieves: that experiment, described in 'flying circus of physics' among other places, was traditionally done with a violin bow.	[04:39]
asciilifeform	no computer needed.	[04:39]
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thickasthieves	it's awesome thought	[04:40]
thickasthieves	though	[04:40]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform> the more developed a welfare state, the juicier a target it will appear to these travellers. << now this is an interesting point.	[04:41]
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BingoBoingo	!up drawesome	[04:42]
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mircea_popescu	thickasthieves well good teaching aid. otherwise kinda banal.	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	not to detract or anything.	[04:44]
decimation	"the rule-following beetle men" << asciilifeform - the same ones who would conspire to breach attorney-client privilege ;)	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	most certainly not.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	only after it's the done thing would they flock to do it. but for now, they won't hear of it.	[04:45]
drawesome	Thanks BingoBoingo	[04:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17897 @ 0.00073559 = 13.1649 BTC [-] {2}	[04:46]
BingoBoingo	drawesome: So what do you do?	[04:46]
drawesome	BingoBoingo, I'm just looking	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	so then... drlooksome ?	[04:47]
drawesome	:p lol	[04:47]
BingoBoingo	What if he's just looking... in awe?	[04:48]
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thickasthieves	obv he's awesome at drawing	[05:10]
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decimation	"Last week, a dog belonging to an Ebola-infected nurse was euthanized in Spain, causing a national outcry. " << wtf	[05:13]
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ben_vulpes	> paintball gun	[05:15]
ben_vulpes	> pepperspray balls	[05:15]
ben_vulpes	^^ this is a thing?!?	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	decimation the press is readily reporting "national outcries" of some topics but not others.	[05:16]
ben_vulpes	http://www.pepperball.com/	[05:16]
ben_vulpes	oh shit	[05:16]
assbot	Pepperball	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes old thing no ?	[05:16]
BingoBoingo	ben_vulpes: Pepperball is an over the counter thing	[05:16]
nubbins`	cool	[05:18]
nubbins`	not in canada it ain't	[05:18]
ben_vulpes	hey i'm an insulated american't	[05:18]
ben_vulpes	my naive schoolby wonder should be a thing of joy for you jaded internet fags	[05:19]
nubbins`	so alice and bob enter a room, the entrance of which is controlled by carol	[05:20]
nubbins`	you with me so far?	[05:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00073757 = 2.0814 BTC [+]	[05:21]
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mircea_popescu	ya	[05:23]
ben_vulpes	antici....	[05:25]
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BingoBoingo	look at Andreas derp his innocence https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/521848974853279744	[05:28]
assbot	Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-hacked-the-snappening-2014-10 << clearly, the cloud is the answer.	[05:28]
assbot	Snapchat Hacked: 'The Snappening' - Business Insider	[05:28]
BingoBoingo	AndreasMAntonopoulos ‏@aantonop 1m1 minute ago	[05:28]
BingoBoingo	@BBoingo No, I remember the time I tweeted source code that didn’t contain malware. Later, they added an executable with malware. Troll	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo o i see, "troll" is it ?	[05:29]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: WOO HOO HOO HOO WEBAPPS AND SOCIAL MEEEEDYA	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes probably the next logical step is declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling.	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	"knock knock" "who's there ?" "i am from b-a ma'am. i bought your daughter on otc. bring her out, don't bother packing anything"	[05:30]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Yes, pointing out Andreas spreads malware is now troll.	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	guy goes around neighbourhood in his vw van, taking deprs to their new basements...	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo recall scammers calling mpoe-pr a troll back in the day ?	[05:31]
danielpbarron	BingoBoingo, it's distruptive and rude!	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	idiots are so inventive, i swear.	[05:31]
BingoBoingo	Such repetition on their part.	[05:31]
BingoBoingo	Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if obola was a greek thing	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	um.	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	of course it is ?	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	;;google oboloi	[05:32]
gribble	Obol (coin) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; oboloi - Wiktionary: ; Ancient Greek Money and Coins - Mlahanas.de:	[05:32]
BingoBoingo	lol	[05:33]
danielpbarron	EbolaCoin - the fist cryptocurrency to support ebola research!	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	why research ? suport the virus!	[05:34]
danielpbarron	proof of infection	[05:34]
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cazalla	so the guy behind that australian bitcoin group, sam lee, is the same guy behind bitcoin reserve who got tricked into clicking a link which gave the attacker access to his gmail lol	[05:35]
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BingoBoingo	cazalla: Update his poast to roast?	[05:36]
cazalla	from july http://www.startupsmart.com.au/financing-a-business/melbourne-based-bitcoin-fund-lost-70000-in-a-cyber-attack-caused-by-us-marshals-service/2014070112637.html	[05:36]
assbot	Melbourne-based bitcoin fund lost $70,000 in a cyber-attack caused by US Marshals Service	[05:36]
nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820826.0	[05:36]
assbot	[Auction] 2 entire full toe-nail freshly ripped off!	[05:36]
nubbins`	probably nsfa	[05:36]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, i will update it	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` i wonder how much btc for a lb of human clits.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	i mean, pheasant tongue only takes decadence so far.	[05:37]
nubbins`	my friend has three pheasants	[05:38]
nubbins`	wait, no, partridges	[05:38]
nubbins`	no, wait. he has phimosis	[05:38]
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mircea_popescu	!up chiral	[05:39]
-assbot-	You voiced chiral for 30 minutes.	[05:39]
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chiral	o/	[05:39]
chiral	winning	[05:39]
chiral	im telling the news	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	aha ?	[05:39]
thickasthieves	welcome to the celebration of all that is perverse!	[05:39]
chiral	:>	[05:39]
cazalla	here he is discussing it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOuGYVv7Ak	[05:39]
assbot	Interview: Sam Lee - Silk Road auction hacking victim. - YouTube	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	lol wait. he got owned by the usms while using usg operated silk road ?!	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	!up PinkPosixPXE	[05:40]
-assbot-	You voiced PinkPosixPXE for 30 minutes.	[05:40]
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cazalla	the attacked got his details from the usms list that they leaked and then pretended to be a journalist to rope him in	[05:40]
cazalla	attacker*	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	intereskin	[05:41]
asciilifeform	declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling << this is sorta SOP already...	[05:41]
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decimation	!up adlai	[05:41]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i meant physically.	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	obviously their virtual personas have long been a commodity	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	but maybe it's time for the 4th wall to be breached	[05:42]
thickasthieves	zonky: "yeah i wrote a calculator in ether, now i have to pay my computer to do math. ether is the future"	[05:43]
thickasthieves	zoinky*	[05:43]
thickasthieves	lol	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:44]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform> declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling << this is sorta SOP already... << I mean Thiel was an early facebutt investor	[05:45]
kakobrekla	he saved passwords in his chrome browser.	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	it was built from the ground up with security in mind	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	oops, i mean... it was butt from the security up with a ground mind	[05:47]
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thickasthieves	i knew these austrian guys that used to say "i made a castle" when they made a big shit	[05:48]
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thickasthieves	dunno if that's a thing in german or whatever	[05:48]
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decimation	Thiel implied that facebook was a general failure << http://conversationswithbillkristol.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Thiel_conversations_transcript.pdf << "And so we would like to say Facebook is a specific success, it must mean some general success. And so Facebook is a great business,and therefore it will solve all the world’s problems. And I think the modality I prefer to think of is, that there are specific	[05:48]
kakobrekla	hm, i heard that before.	[05:48]
decimation	successes but they may be symptomatic of general failure"	[05:48]
kakobrekla	the castle thing	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	today i learned that my name in chinses (米炮) has cannon in it!	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	!up gsdgdfs	[05:49]
-assbot-	You voiced gsdgdfs for 30 minutes.	[05:49]
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thickasthieves	and a butthole icon	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	uh... ?	[05:49]
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kakobrekla	eh my name has tits in english	[05:49]
thickasthieves	first icon looks like a brownstar	[05:49]
thickasthieves	sexond looks like stick man gettng a bj	[05:50]
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thickasthieves	maybe it's just my font	[05:50]
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mircea_popescu	thickasthieves you know... this is either pareidolia or else wife's been away for too long ?	[05:51]
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BingoBoingo	eh my name has tits in english << But it means dick	[05:51]
thickasthieves	being around you too long is much more likely	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	we're thousands of miles apart!	[05:51]
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thickasthieves	or are we?	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	!up rdekley_	[05:51]
-assbot-	You voiced rdekley_ for 30 minutes.	[05:51]
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thickasthieves	i had to look up Pareidolia	[05:53]
thickasthieves	yeah i do that a lot	[05:53]
thickasthieves	i also like pointing out people that look like people	[05:53]
thickasthieves	and ethnic traits	[05:54]
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thickasthieves	and naming fonts on signs	[05:54]
thickasthieves	etc	[05:54]
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thickasthieves	i guess it's all pattern recognition, i'm a true american!	[05:56]
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mircea_popescu	!up timeaftertime	[05:58]
-assbot-	You voiced timeaftertime for 30 minutes.	[05:58]
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timeaftertime	yo any cult chirstians in here?	[05:58]
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mircea_popescu	luke-jr_ and danielpbarron	[05:59]
thickasthieves	talk to luke-jr	[05:59]
kakobrekla	luke also does child rapes, 20bux.	[05:59]
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timeaftertime	who's luke jr?	[05:59]
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decimation	I'm a Christian	[05:59]
timeaftertime	who's danielpbarron	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	timeaftertime the log is in the topic, use it.	[06:00]
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timeaftertime	decimation: what cult do you belong too?	[06:00]
thickasthieves	what bridge do you live under?	[06:00]
timeaftertime	thickasthieves: carm.org	[06:00]
assbot	luke-jr_ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0	[06:00]
mircea_popescu	!up luke-jr_	[06:01]
thickasthieves	wassat?	[06:01]
-assbot-	You voiced luke-jr_ for 30 minutes.	[06:01]
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decimation	;;dict cult	[06:01]
gribble	wn: cult n 1: followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices 2: an interest followed with exaggerated zeal; "he always follows the latest fads"; "it was all the rage that season" [syn: {fad}, {craze}, {furor}, {furore}, {cult}, {rage}] 3: followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the (1 more message)	[06:01]
mircea_popescu	furore ? srsly ?	[06:01]
mircea_popescu	it's not even what it means.	[06:01]
thickasthieves	TIL ;;dict	[06:01]
luke-jr_	yeah, I was going to object to cult, but the dictionary says it's okay	[06:01]
timeaftertime	lets google danielpbarron	[06:01]
thickasthieves	logs link has a search	[06:01]
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thickasthieves	also you can use !s in here and with assbot	[06:01]
thickasthieves	!s danielpbarron	[06:02]
assbot	2226 results for 'danielpbarron' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=danielpbarron	[06:02]
thickasthieves	there, stalk away	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield.	[06:02]
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mircea_popescu	i mean it did mate with rock to yield that xtian rock thingee	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	it's pretty fertile	[06:02]
timeaftertime	how about Luke-Jr	[06:02]
timeaftertime	hes a calvinist	[06:03]
Luke-Jr	no	[06:03]
thickasthieves	i had a christian punk band on my label in the 2000s	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	punk ?!	[06:03]
thickasthieves	yep	[06:03]
Luke-Jr	I'm Catholic	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	The Glam Nuns Band would be pretty rad.	[06:03]
thickasthieves	just melodic skater punk, not mohawkz and chainz	[06:03]
mircea_popescu	skanker punk is now punk ?!	[06:04]
thickasthieves	lol	[06:04]
thickasthieves	skateboarder	[06:04]
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thickasthieves	cali style punk	[06:04]
timeaftertime	Darwin clearly does not believe anyone but Darwin Fish is faithfully teaching the truth of God's Word.	[06:04]
timeaftertime	that = cult	[06:04]
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timeaftertime	http://carm.org/a-true-church	[06:05]
thickasthieves	there's actually a dedicated punk christain label	[06:05]
assbot	A True Church \| Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry	[06:05]
timeaftertime	i dont care	[06:05]
thickasthieves	Tooth & Nail Records	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	o look, http://carm.org/donation << no bitcoin	[06:05]
assbot	Partner With CARM \| Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	!down timeaftertime	[06:05]
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mircea_popescu	come back when you've fixed it.	[06:05]
Luke-Jr	timeaftertime: why link that heretical site?	[06:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23618 @ 0.00073752 = 17.4187 BTC [+]	[06:06]
nubbins`	groan	[06:07]
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nubbins`	"time after time" is now in my head, notbad.jpg	[06:08]
thickasthieves	me too	[06:08]
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nubbins`	;;google time after time site:youtube.com	[06:08]
gribble	Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time - YouTube: ; The Voice UK 2014 Blind Auditions Sophie May Williams 'Time After ...: ; Eva Cassidy - Time After Time - YouTube:	[06:08]
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thickasthieves	such singalongability	[06:08]
nubbins`	sindy lopper	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQY7BusJNU	[06:09]
assbot	Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time - YouTube	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	not bad.	[06:09]
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nubbins`	sɪndi lawpər	[06:10]
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nubbins`	her boyfriend does not like her new haircut	[06:10]
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thickasthieves	some of the cover versions are pretty good too	[06:13]
thickasthieves	i dont remember this video at all, lol	[06:13]
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Luke-Jr	well, he sure was boring	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	misguided dedication usually ends up that way	[06:15]
Duffer1	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLhytQ67fs	[06:16]
assbot	Cyndi Lauper - The Goonies 'R' Good Enough - YouTube	[06:16]
nubbins`	http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2501480	[06:18]
assbot	A Diamond is Forever and Other Fairy Tales: The Relationship between Wedding Expenses and Marriage Duration by Andrew M. Francis, Hugo M. Mialon :: SSRN	[06:18]
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kakobrekla	20:21:35: I hope asciilifeform open sources his FPGA flash disk card < heh, somewhere on irc, in 2009.	[06:21]
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asciilifeform	kakobrekla: he was probably talking about a gizmo i was considering building long ago - an esdi hard disk emulator (for use in ancient 'symbolics' lisp machine.)	[06:22]
kakobrekla	no need for that anymore eh	[06:22]
asciilifeform	the ancient hdd in these (such as my 3620) is always the most fragile part, being mechanical and very old (1986 in my case)	[06:23]
asciilifeform	still very much a need - for folks who really give a damn	[06:23]
Luke-Jr	kakobrekla: why not? it might still be interesting	[06:23]
asciilifeform	those 'fujutsu eagles' won't run forever.	[06:23]
asciilifeform	*fujitsu	[06:23]
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Luke-Jr	nubbins`: nice, I spent $0 on marriage ;P	[06:24]
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dub	you don't have a wife you have a slave	[06:25]
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X-Rob	asciilifeform: they already exist.	[06:25]
asciilifeform	they do. golden toilet, cost $maxint.	[06:26]
dub	surprising luke and mp don't get along better	[06:26]
asciilifeform	and, last i tried to buy, wasn't even available where claimed.	[06:26]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/521864268959203328	[06:27]
assbot	Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.	[06:27]
BingoBoingo	@aantonop Wait, you are the one with victims, but I am the troll? @DanielJonss @DorianSatoshi @newsweeklied @ethankirschner	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` great paper lol	[06:28]
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mircea_popescu	dub don't knock slavery as a domestic arrangement. beats any alternative.	[06:28]
X-Rob	asciilifeform: so now I'm intrigued and trying to find one myself, and ... you appear to be right	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	o look... i made a pun!	[06:28]
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BingoBoingo	The truly scary thing is that as periperal as Andreas is... I think he has more fans than compromised Gavin and Hearn together.	[06:30]
BingoBoingo	Fuck astroturf is expensive	[06:30]
asciilifeform	X-Rob: there aren't all that many folks who actually want to -use- museum-grade machinery with any regularity.	[06:30]
asciilifeform	X-Rob: people mostly get by with ancient disks.	[06:31]
BingoBoingo	Or compact flash	[06:31]
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X-Rob	asciilifeform: I'm a collector of old Z80 hardware.	[06:31]
BingoBoingo	generally plugs into IDE	[06:31]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: the whole discussion was a modern-flash to esdi adapter	[06:31]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: no ide or scsi in these	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo you're only computing one variable. his superficial fans aren't realyl worth all that much	[06:31]
X-Rob	ST-506 is the way to go	[06:31]
BingoBoingo	Wait, people use adapters and don't just cup their balls and ope shit works?	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	Dot TK is the only top level domain name registry that provides free domain names. Get your free domain name today, before it's gone.	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	uh.	[06:32]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: entirely different protocols. prior to modern-age ata and scsi, disk interfaces generally were more involved with the actual drive mechanics (head selection/motion, etc)	[06:32]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo you're only computing one variable. his superficial fans aren't realyl worth all that much << On this axis. I've met fans of his IRL which I can't understand.	[06:32]
asciilifeform	disks didn't really have on-board controllers as such. just an analogue amp.	[06:33]
nubbins`	free as in	[06:33]
X-Rob	http://www.pdp8.net/mfm/mfm.shtml	[06:33]
X-Rob	that appears to be the closest, asciilifeform	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo well, worthless in any sense we'd care. obviously he can sell them shaving cream or w/e it is he does for a living.	[06:33]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well these are the sorts of fucktards that wear "please rob me" BTC t-shirts and slacks	[06:34]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Are you using 1/8" or 1/4" plugs to talk to thise disks	[06:35]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: http://www.harddrives-usa.com/files/thumbnail/m2263e.jpg	[06:35]
*	asciilifeform doesn't get the eight-inch reference here	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	"Mirror site if this site is slow highgate.comm.sfu.ca"	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	jesus remember the days pure html sites had problems with cpu usage ?	[06:35]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: two ribbons.	[06:35]
X-Rob	asciilifeform: that's very very current stuff. 2 weeks old.	[06:36]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: You see that's the mistake. Talk to every device as if the conversation is an accident. Use the auido plugs.	[06:36]
BingoBoingo	What is audio but undisciplined serial?	[06:36]
nubbins`	btc slacks!!	[06:36]
asciilifeform	i bet BingoBoingo built his own 'covox speechthing' clone in the '90s like the rest of us.	[06:37]
asciilifeform	original (which no one i know ever touched) --- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Covox_Speech_Thing.jpg ; typical clone --- http://www.ferrit.fi/images/covox%20full.jpg	[06:38]
*	BingoBoingo didn't have computer till this century, simply shocked self with disposable camera capacitor and then got the point	[06:38]
ben_vulpes	proof of infection << now i want a coin with proof of infraction	[06:38]
asciilifeform	proof of infarction.	[06:39]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Wait, people made those in sufficient quantity to make labels?	[06:39]
X-Rob	asciilifeform: I played around with the Vortrax when I was a young bloke. That was a precursor to that I believe.	[06:39]
ben_vulpes	it was either going to be you or mircea_popescu, asciilifeform :P	[06:39]
BingoBoingo	proof of infection << now i want a coin with proof of infraction << artery, needle, glue	[06:39]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: 'covox' was an actual product. and there was a similar item, 'disney sound source' (yes!)	[06:39]
BingoBoingo	WTF did I miss.	[06:40]
X-Rob	oooh, hang on	[06:40]
BingoBoingo	Now you're going to tell me fuckign Amiga actually outdid Macs and used a 6860 chip	[06:40]
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X-Rob	is that the old crappy parallel-to-audio-out crappy sound thing?	[06:40]
asciilifeform	X-Rob: yes, precisely that one	[06:40]
X-Rob	bahahaha	[06:41]
X-Rob	I made one of them!	[06:41]
X-Rob	bunch of resistors and a parallel port	[06:41]
X-Rob	I was so happy.	[06:41]
kakobrekla	afaik resistor ladder dacs are still the shit these days	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	^	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	mostly because by now they can be made within microohm	[06:42]
asciilifeform	^	[06:42]
asciilifeform	there are not so many ways to do a dac.	[06:42]
kakobrekla	^	[06:42]
ben_vulpes	^	[06:42]
kakobrekla	just thought i would fit in	[06:42]
mats_cd03	^	[06:42]
ben_vulpes	hey this is the wrong kind of dac for this channel	[06:43]
asciilifeform	http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1928/covox1.png << french built-in covox!	[06:43]
ben_vulpes	how can i dissipate max energy with other people's public keys, i ask you	[06:43]
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BingoBoingo	Why did USB ever become a thing when microphone is much good nao	[06:43]
X-Rob	aww man that brings back me playing kings quest and leisure suite larry	[06:44]
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X-Rob	with my computer MAKING REAL SOUNDS. IT was amazing.	[06:44]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[06:44]
asciilifeform	it was.	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	we should have a bot that processes BingoBoingo's last six lines and calculates his blood alcohol	[06:45]
asciilifeform	microphone << as a kid, i had some cassettes from my brother, who had bk-0010 at school. all i could do was throw them in a tape deck & listen.	[06:45]
X-Rob	asciilifeform: I have some kids. They're... 9 and 6. These kids will never know what it's like to not have internet. This AMAZES me.	[06:45]
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asciilifeform	X-Rob: they might learn very soon...	[06:45]
ben_vulpes	!up PinkPosixPXE << now this is one of the better handle's i've seen lately	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	X-Rob like, remember back before dlh ? kids had to actually work for their gaming experience ?	[06:46]
X-Rob	asciilifeform: who's bombing whom?	[06:46]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes ikr ?	[06:46]
asciilifeform	X-Rob: no need for nukefest, there are other variants.	[06:46]
X-Rob	mircea_popescu: Pfft. These bastards with their saves and retries and everything. When we lost our third life, we had to start again from world 1, level 1!	[06:46]
asciilifeform	(though nobody cancelled nukes)	[06:46]
ben_vulpes	!up PinkPosixPXE	[06:47]
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X-Rob	Well if they could hold off for a while, I'm off to the US this week for a fortnight	[06:47]
ben_vulpes	you still around, PinkPosixPXE?	[06:47]
X-Rob	at least let me get back to australia	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	i struggled my entire childhood with captain comic	[06:47]
BingoBoingo	we should have a bot that processes BingoBoingo's last six lines and calculates his blood alcohol << Note how much controls along this axis have improved though	[06:47]
asciilifeform	http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0cazxPOCcdQ/0.jpg	[06:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4484 @ 0.00073687 = 3.3041 BTC [-]	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	eventually finished it as an adult, playing with my also adult sister	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo true	[06:47]
mircea_popescu	;;google captain comic	[06:47]
gribble	Captain Comic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; RGB Classic Games - Play The Adventures of Captain Comic online: ; Captain Comics, Boise, ID \| Comics, Cards, Games, Posters, Cards ...:	[06:47]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/2/16/13/how-to-prepare-a-kiwi-16649-1266343361-28.jpg	[06:48]
ben_vulpes	joke in url	[06:48]
asciilifeform	comic << lol, grandfather of 'commander keen'	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	mhm	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	stupid fucking lamp	[06:48]
mircea_popescu	and stupid fucking capslock teleport	[06:49]
ben_vulpes	im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield. << have you met TempleOS yet?	[06:49]
mircea_popescu	200 holes	[06:49]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes that's just a spec i bet.	[06:49]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: came up here several times	[06:49]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: for all his sin-sistience, mircea_popescu does miss things in the logs	[06:49]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo true << I really can't blog drunk nao without excess effort and no golden toilets were purchased. FUKU NBC	[06:49]
ben_vulpes	templeos is esoteric enough to have slipped his radar	[06:50]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: spec for carving kiwis, or a zealotous os?	[06:50]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes i didn't miss templeos!	[06:50]
ben_vulpes	;P	[06:50]
mircea_popescu	and a spec as in, spec of dust.	[06:50]
*	ben_vulpes rolls eyes	[06:50]
ben_vulpes	no srsly we run templeos in production	[06:51]
mircea_popescu	don't rolls your eyes at me, mista!	[06:51]
ben_vulpes	btcd on templeos	[06:51]
*	ben_vulpes doesn't even know if that's possible	[06:51]
ben_vulpes	maybe a spec	[06:51]
ben_vulpes	IN GODS EYE	[06:51]
BingoBoingo	ben_vulpes: templeos is nice if you know what to expect.	[06:51]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZW0A3zFUTU	[06:51]
assbot	Captain Comic : Full walkthrough (PC Version) - YouTube	[06:51]
BingoBoingo	basically temple os offers an giant x86-64 box of sand.	[06:52]
BingoBoingo	And... nothing else.	[06:52]
ben_vulpes	sindy lopper << sindy loper << a+++ would boot again	[06:52]
BingoBoingo	No sanity checks	[06:52]
BingoBoingo	No angels from heaven.	[06:52]
BingoBoingo	Pretty much temple os is the 40 years stumbling around the sainai	[06:53]
nubbins`	bed time	[06:53]
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ben_vulpes	aw c'mon nubbins` it's only what 1130?	[06:53]
ben_vulpes	2330?	[06:53]
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cazalla	https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/521854456829186048	[06:54]
assbot	Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.	[06:54]
cazalla	legitimate but now it may be a scam	[06:54]
ben_vulpes	o look... i made a pun! << had to look twice	[06:54]
ben_vulpes	can't tell if light logs or light fiatcorp workload	[06:55]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: he called me troll because I said true he spread malware	[06:56]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: presumably in his mind, it somehow 'doesn't count' if you spread 'unknowingly' - just like spreading obola is 'unknowing' until satan signs your death certificate with the word	[06:57]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, he will be in town next month, perhaps i take the video camera for an exclusive	[06:57]
*	asciilifeform read 'newsweeklied' in the style of 'horst wessel lied' - should probably go to sleep	[06:58]
BingoBoingo	Fuck, even tradefartress at least pretended to be ashamed when he was "haxxed"	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	cazalla harassing dimwitted bums may be a waste of time	[07:00]
ben_vulpes	BingoBoingo: what to expect << i expect nothing, and so to be pleasantly surprised. is this a contradiction?	[07:01]
BingoBoingo	ben_vulpes: No, we know you identify as dog. Kind of dog is import nao.	[07:02]
ben_vulpes	http://www.metmuseum.org/research/metpublications/Art_and_the_Empire_City_New_York_1825_1861 << tonight's reading	[07:02]
assbot	Art and the Empire City: New York, 1825–1861 \| The Metropolitan Museum of Art	[07:02]
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ben_vulpes	;;ud garburator	[07:08]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=garburator \| garburator. A canadian word that involves garbage disposal through your kitchen sink! When you turn it on, it makes a loud grating noise and... bye bye garbage!	[07:08]
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BingoBoingo	So I refuse to learn Andreas's last name. as a style guide is developed... Does Andreas the Greek work as a canonical term? Is it unambiguous enough?	[07:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50279 @ 0.00073537 = 36.9737 BTC [-] {4}	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	andreas nongrok ?	[07:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24644 @ 0.0007343 = 18.0961 BTC [-]	[07:11]
thickasthieves	andreas monopolis	[07:11]
thickasthieves	teh greek	[07:11]
*	BingoBoingo also wonders what part of dead andreas doesn't understand since his own followers made it real	[07:12]
thickasthieves	probly the part where he's still breathing	[07:14]
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BingoBoingo	thickasthieves: You hear the story about the parent and the child. Their cat was pregnant, whole litter delivered dead. Child said "let's make crosses"	[07:15]
BingoBoingo	Once crosses were made child asks parent "Where are the nails?"	[07:16]
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thickasthieves	fun kid	[07:17]
thickasthieves	andreas does bare the devil's peak	[07:17]
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thickasthieves	http://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg	[07:19]
BingoBoingo	As I heard the story out, the kittens were not crucified in the end	[07:19]
thickasthieves	probly for the best	[07:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00073632 = 5.412 BTC [+] {2}	[07:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73650 @ 0.00073411 = 54.0672 BTC [-] {4}	[07:35]
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ben_vulpes	ditch freenode when	[07:56]
BingoBoingo	Some time	[07:57]
thickasthieves	;;ticker	[08:01]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 400.01, Best ask: 400.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 400.78, 24 hour volume: 25769.30867291, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 405.0, 24 hour vwap: 386.157670203	[08:01]
thickasthieves	;;estimate	[08:03]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 36364528238.0 based on data since last change \| 36750497181.1 based on data for last three days	[08:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00073413 = 20.1886 BTC [+]	[08:13]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg	[08:16]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck wa sthat ?!	[08:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11152 @ 0.0007343 = 8.1889 BTC [+] {2}	[08:17]
mircea_popescu	!up bitcoinik	[08:17]
-assbot-	You voiced bitcoinik for 30 minutes.	[08:17]
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X-Rob	mircea_popescu: I was going to ask that, and then I realised that I didn't want to know the answer.	[08:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8698 @ 0.0007376 = 6.4156 BTC [+]	[08:44]
thickasthieves	google found it	[08:44]
thickasthieves	it's for real	[08:44]
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thickasthieves	here have another 2%	[08:45]
thickasthieves	;;ticker	[08:45]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 406.05, Best ask: 407.93, Bid-ask spread: 1.88000, Last trade: 406.99, 24 hour volume: 26885.68621359, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 407.82, 24 hour vwap: 386.98702471	[08:45]
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thickasthieves	going lolmode	[08:53]
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xinxi	any options trader?	[08:54]
xinxi	;;gettrust wangxinxi	[08:56]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user wangxinxi to user wangxinxi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=wangxinxi&dest=wangxinxi \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wangxinxi \| Rated since: Mon Oct 13 16:19:46 2014	[08:56]
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xinxi	is there any options trader?	[08:58]
RagnarDanneskjol	lol @ mp's rating	[08:58]
xinxi	is it funny?	[09:00]
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RagnarDanneskjol	not laughing @ you xinxi - just the comment left in your otc rating	[09:01]
xinxi	yah, he is a humorous guy.	[09:02]
RagnarDanneskjol	I assume you are asking if anyone here offers options trading?	[09:02]
xinxi	yes	[09:03]
RagnarDanneskjol	there are no more options on mpex to be clear: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/	[09:03]
assbot	MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[09:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00073454 = 14.1032 BTC [-]	[09:03]
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xinxi	the volume is not bad.	[09:06]
thickasthieves	was	[09:07]
RagnarDanneskjol	you might find individuals willing to do p2p options contrcts	[09:07]
xinxi	That’s interesting, but how to deal with the collateral thing?	[09:08]
xinxi	use an existing escrow?	[09:08]
RagnarDanneskjol	sure thats one way to do it	[09:08]
xinxi	thickasthieves, can I know more recent volume?	[09:09]
thickasthieves	it no longer exists	[09:10]
xinxi	I am just wondering what happend to MPOE? it used to be good.	[09:10]
RagnarDanneskjol	it is explained in the article above	[09:10]
RagnarDanneskjol	you might find this site helpful for market data: http://www.btcalpha.com/	[09:11]
assbot	Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.	[09:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18922 @ 0.00073571 = 13.9211 BTC [+] {3}	[09:11]
xinxi	I see.	[09:14]
xinxi	it’s a pitty.	[09:14]
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xinxi	the volatility of bitcoin is too high	[09:16]
xinxi	building a vanilla options exchange is really quite risky.	[09:16]
RagnarDanneskjol	indeed	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	xinxi what options are you trying to write ?	[09:20]
xinxi	i am building an options exchange actually.	[09:20]
xinxi	but as vanilla opitons are too risky. I am right now focusing on binary options.	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	there's about a dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in bitcoin	[09:21]
xinxi	yeah, i know.	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	there's about five hundred dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in fiat, for that matter.	[09:21]
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mircea_popescu	there's a reason binary options aren't used in finance.	[09:21]
xinxi	yeah, right. I know the situation.	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	so then ?	[09:22]
xinxi	the binary options provided by them are OTC traded.	[09:22]
xinxi	that makes them gambling sites.	[09:22]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-december/ << there, that's a binary option	[09:22]
assbot	BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December :: 2.03 B (16%) on Yes, 10.9 B (84%) on No \| closing in 1 week 17 hours \| weight: 79`475 (100`000 to 50`000)	[09:22]
mircea_popescu	in its proper place, ie, a gambling site.	[09:22]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ << that's probably the recoird holding btc binary option to date.	[09:23]
assbot	BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (9%) on Yes, 755.39 B (91%) on No \| closing in 1 month 5 days \| weight: 10`108 (100`000 to 1)	[09:23]
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xinxi	yeah, but i want to change the situation by building a fair exhcange.	[09:23]
mircea_popescu	what makes you think you're the guy to do that ?	[09:24]
xinxi	a place some one can trade using the black-schole models.	[09:24]
xinxi	yes, good question.	[09:25]
xinxi	i have been trading for more than 7 years.	[09:26]
xinxi	and I am a phd in computer science.	[09:26]
RagnarDanneskjol	o.0	[09:26]
RagnarDanneskjol	so what's your gameplan?	[09:27]
xinxi	I am also a honest person that people can trust, but i know this is hard to prove.	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	it's not hard to prove at all.	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	;;ident xinxi	[09:27]
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xinxi	…i know that I did not trade using bitcoin-otc.	[09:28]
xinxi	thta’s why i did not get many ratings.	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	looky, point remains : you're young, you're smart, you wanna do something. that's fine. you're in no position to evaluate what's worth doing and what isn't, and are currently solipsistically proceeding towards something that's not worth doing.	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	your best move is to actually read the log, not like people don't get things to do all the time, that's actually worth doing	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	nanotube could the defaults on viewratingdetail.php be sorted by time rather than by rate'rs total point count ? it kinda pointlessly emphasises a meaningless measure, as-is.	[09:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 162 @ 0.09360999 = 15.1648 BTC [-] {2}	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	;;seen sgornick	[09:31]
gribble	sgornick was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: > Bitcoin are B⃦, ฿, and Ƀ. <--- Which do you prefer?	[09:31]
xinxi	mp, I’m a bit suprised that you see so many things from me in such as short conversation.	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell sgornick you ever got a hold of cazalla in the end ?	[09:32]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[09:32]
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mircea_popescu	xinxi all the things you don't say are informative. i'm a mage of silences.	[09:33]
xinxi	brilliant. but how do you know it’s not worth doing? is there any evidence for that?	[09:33]
mircea_popescu	well that's where it becomes complicated.	[09:33]
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mircea_popescu	for you, i imagine not.	[09:33]
gabriel_laddel	xinxi: if you don't mind my asking, where did you get your phd from, what is your favorite programming language(s) and why?	[09:34]
xinxi	National University of Singapore. it’s the best school of Singapore.	[09:35]
xanthyos	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDXUDehUgIQ	[09:35]
assbot	Sara X Does Mozarts Eine kleine Nachtmusik - YouTube	[09:35]
xinxi	my favorite programming language is C++, because that’s what I learnt when I was in my high school.	[09:36]
xinxi	mp, I very much want to know your point.	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	anyone seen the man who wasn't there ?	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	coen bros.	[09:37]
RagnarDanneskjol	yes	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	xinxi look, proof is a problem of the observer. i listed two major counts : one that it never went anywhere before, the other that it's already done, by bitbet. neither of these impressed you.	[09:37]
RagnarDanneskjol	billybob gives me the creeps	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	this means you're not particularly looking for evidence, you're moreover chasing a vision or w/e they call daydreaming these days.	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol excellent film that.	[09:38]
RagnarDanneskjol	not too shabby	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	i was like, having prop bets while watching it. "does he fuck the teenager"	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	"is casper coming back"	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	etc	[09:38]
RagnarDanneskjol	heh	[09:38]
RagnarDanneskjol	xinxi - there was a pretty decent case study summarized in the february statement	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	where is that write-up, with the intellectuals	[09:39]
RagnarDanneskjol	you're on it	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	lol no, 1930s	[09:40]
RagnarDanneskjol	ahh	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	http://taoyue.com/stacks/articles/brilliant-men.html	[09:42]
assbot	From the Stacks: Why I Never Hire Brilliant Men \| TaoYue.com	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	here we go. course meanwhile wiipedia, reddit and the rest of the charade stoile it.	[09:42]
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mircea_popescu	but anyway : "I was flattered by his interest, so I thought it over. That is, I indulged in what young men frequently mistake for thought. In imagination, I saw my name over the door and myself in a fine glass office looking out and watching clerks taking in money. I had, in anticipation, the thrill of buying one store after another and going from town to town on tours of inspection. I tickled my fancy with the idea of	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	coming back to college and letting the boys consult me as an experienced man of affairs. And having finished this process of “thinking” I wired Carroll that I was ready to join him."	[09:43]
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xinxi	RagnarDanneskjol - yeah for vanilla options, it is too risky, but I don’t see any problem with binary options technically.	[09:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00073936 = 2.9574 BTC [+]	[09:49]
xinxi	I think there is somekind of bias in the article about the phds.	[09:50]
mircea_popescu	of course there is. but that bias isn't my point.	[09:51]
xinxi	when I do research, I do not look for excitement.	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	my point is merely that throughout a man's lifetime, his thought process is and remains flawed.	[09:51]
xinxi	i solve problems, not matter how simple the method I use.	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	the only thing that changes is the flavour.	[09:51]
xinxi	right, human see what they want to see.	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	brain isn't made for thinking, after all.	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	we just use it that way.	[09:53]
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xinxi	that’s an interesting point.	[09:56]
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xinxi	Thanks to all of you for the suggestions.	[09:59]
xinxi	I actually have built the exchange.	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	i'd have expected no less.	[10:00]
xinxi	The address is https://coinut.com	[10:01]
xinxi	you are welcome to criticise.	[10:01]
mircea_popescu	i guess utbit'd have been a worse choice.	[10:02]
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RagnarDanneskjol	the site looks nice xinxi	[10:07]
xinxi	RagnarDanneskjol - Thanks. I just saw you registered.	[10:07]
xinxi	any criticism?	[10:08]
RagnarDanneskjol	I'm going through it - will get back later	[10:08]
punkman	'ello	[10:08]
xinxi	Oh, man, thanks a lot.	[10:09]
RagnarDanneskjol	you might want to try this bcauth login made by Azelphur at some point - https://github.com/Azelphur/django-bcauth	[10:10]
assbot	Azelphur/django-bcauth GitHub	[10:10]
RagnarDanneskjol	punkman - how goes the deed project?	[10:11]
xinxi	Thanks. It looks quite interesting to me.	[10:15]
xinxi	I need to go for lunch, ttyl.	[10:17]
xinxi	This is a truely nice place.	[10:17]
punkman	RagnarDanneskjol: almost there, but all the moving parts with threads due to supybot/electrum make my head hurt	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	punkman what's electrum doing ?	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	o the wallet ?	[10:17]
punkman	yeah	[10:18]
RagnarDanneskjol	yea - much better than api	[10:18]
RagnarDanneskjol	not as good as daemon tho	[10:18]
RagnarDanneskjol	still - it'll do	[10:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.09995368 = 9.4956 BTC [+] {4}	[10:21]
punkman	mircea_popescu: about those bbet shares, can they be delivered in a year or something? don't want to let them evaporate via coinbr fees just yet	[10:22]
mircea_popescu	i think this should be ok, yeah,	[10:23]
mircea_popescu	this may be the first time in history someone asks to have shares tranferrred into warrants o.O	[10:24]
punkman	seems like the only sensible option at this time	[10:25]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[16:15]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[16:15]
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mircea_popescu	fucking freenode.	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell mist you work with random security outfits that can't handle "thousands of incoming freenoders" and get raped by nsa on a regular basis but you won't talk to the people that eat nsa for lunch. why so derpy already ?!	[16:17]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	i suppose in retrospect the answer is, as it is usually the case, contained in the question.	[16:17]
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RagnarDanneskjol	heh	[16:20]
jurov	RagnarDanneskjol was that an answer to my q?	[16:21]
RagnarDanneskjol	yes -sticky keys	[16:21]
RagnarDanneskjol	from pete's article	[16:21]
G________	gernika gilgameshugga Ginux GNULinuxGuy go1111111 Graet gribble gsdgdfs Guest45154 guntha_ guruvan gustaf	[16:21]
G________	gernika gilgameshugga Ginux GNULinuxGuy go1111111 Graet gribble gsdgdfs Guest45154 guntha_ guruvan gustaf	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	!up G________	[16:21]
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xinxi	I announced my site here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0	[16:22]
assbot	[ANN] Coinut.com - Bitcoin Options Exchange	[16:22]
xinxi	and got a reply: the fact you got a username that could be seen making you a chinese scammer	[16:23]
xinxi	makes me think hell no will you ever seen 1 Satoshi of my money	[16:23]
xinxi	i'm sorry but noone will risk money with you	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	!s tardstalk	[16:23]
assbot	34 results for 'tardstalk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tardstalk	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	you know..	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	;;notes	[16:23]
gribble	I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, and Zerock.	[16:23]
jurov	xinxi have you replied to gabriel_laddel's review?	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	jurov you sent it to sgarnick or sgornick ?	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	;;notes sgarnick	[16:24]
gribble	Sent 4 days, 15 hours, and 23 minutes ago: send me a pm when you're online, been trying a day with no luck	[16:24]
xinxi	where is the review?	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	lmao cazalla you noob...	[16:24]
jurov	!s gabriel_laddel pastebin	[16:24]
assbot	0 results for 'gabriel_laddel pastebin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gabriel_laddel+pastebin	[16:24]
jurov	sux	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	xinxi http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2014#872382	[16:24]
assbot	Logged on 14-10-2014 08:02:28; gabriel_laddel: xinxi: inital impressions of your service: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xz45zSPZ	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	you gotta read the logs eh.	[16:25]
jurov	xinxi writer not reader!	[16:25]
xinxi	Oh, this review is wonderful.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	assbot: Unlike Bitcoin, Gold or Silver - - - StartCOIN (when held at /StartJOIN) pays diviends EVERY WEEK. Currently ann. rate = 34% <<< that's one way to sell the entire demurage thing	[16:26]
xinxi	I did not expect people will write such a detailed review.	[16:26]
G________	Hey all, super n00b here - sorry. I am trying to verify with gribble, not sure what to do with the challenge string.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	cazalla: maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise << i don't think you understand max keiser. this is what he does.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	G________ put it into gpg.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	!s first steps wiki	[16:27]
assbot	33 results for 'first steps wiki' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=first+steps+wiki	[16:27]
G________	Yea I read that, it says it provides a URL - http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets	[16:27]
assbot	first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]	[16:27]
jurov	G________: more specifically, download it and decrypt	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	xanthyos: you are now. << they aren't fucking tho.	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	jurov: good we have two. yet better they don't diverge. <<< b-a is apparently not short of miracles i tell you.	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00073744 = 38.2731 BTC [+] {2}	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	xinxi: she is a very nice person. << well as long as she's not a marxist should be fine ?	[16:30]
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xinxi	she does not even know what marxist is.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	how old is she ?	[16:30]
xinxi	23	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	how is this possible ?!	[16:31]
xinxi	… girls don’t like politics. you know	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	i don't know. i know least about china than about most things	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which, give a look to http://mpex.bz/faq_cn.html tell me how bad is it ?	[16:31]
xinxi	that’s understandable.	[16:31]
xinxi	it’s not too bad.	[16:32]
xinxi	at least it’s comprensible.	[16:33]
xinxi	comprehensible	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	aha	[16:33]
xinxi	I can see it’s not translated using google	[16:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46614 @ 0.00073793 = 34.3979 BTC [+] {2}	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	well no, som guy did it.	[16:34]
xinxi	yah, I can see the difference.	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	i wouldn't expect it to the fifth classic, but, generally, how does chinese classify as far as the native speaker is concerned ?	[16:36]
xinxi	If you want to show this to a chinese native speaker, it’s better to improve it.	[16:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00073651 = 20.9169 BTC [-]	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	i'm more curious for my own intellectual pursuit	[16:39]
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xinxi	I can feel many parts were just literally translated from english.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	what's the impression that generally gives ? ridiculous ? annoying ?	[16:41]
xinxi	it feels a bit stiff.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	boy i gotta say i love gabriel_laddel's style lol. linking to raw text, stars and tubes and shit.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	"you do this how exactly? the interface runs in the browser but is written in C++? do you know something that I don't?" << cgi-bin baby! it's been there since before php was even invented.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	exactly for this reason too	[16:42]
xinxi	yeah, it’s a cgi program.	[16:43]
xinxi	mp, do you do IT?	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	xinxi you know that's not without its own problems.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	i only do it in the sense of managing people who do.	[16:44]
xinxi	ok.	[16:44]
xinxi	yes, cgi does have issues.	[16:44]
xinxi	it’s more difficult to maintain and requires compile.	[16:44]
xinxi	but usually, it’s much much faster than php.	[16:46]
mats_cd03	;;market buy 1000	[16:46]
gribble	Bitstamp \| A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 410231.4869 USD and would take the last price up to 415.0900 USD, resulting in an average price of 410.2315 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 0.0431 seconds	[16:46]
mats_cd03	;;market buy 10000	[16:46]
gribble	Bitstamp \| A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 4485257.6709 USD and would take the last price up to 526.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 448.5258 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 8.1685 seconds	[16:46]
mats_cd03	;;market buy 50000	[16:47]
gribble	Bitstamp \| This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 23550.527 bitcoins, for a total of 18333428.3555 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. \| Data vintage: 19.2906 seconds	[16:47]
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jurov	xinxi security should be much bigger concern here than speed	[16:49]
xinxi	right.	[16:49]
xinxi	so I use a page to explain that.	[16:49]
xinxi	https://coinut.com/security	[16:49]
xinxi	do you have any suggestions on that?	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	xinxi: i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US. << i hope you've not bitten any.	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	shit hurts.	[16:51]
jurov	in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.)	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	it's c after all. it invented the stack smash	[16:52]
jurov	that must be helluva work in C++	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	"here is my ten line c program that does something, here are the 45479586947 lines which make sure it doesn't do something else"	[16:52]
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xinxi	right, there are quite limited number of inputs. I double checked all the input data and make sure that they are right before they are sent to the database.	[16:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28325 @ 0.00073804 = 20.905 BTC [+]	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	cazalla: assbot is racist too << lmao. leave britney alone!	[16:55]
xinxi	mp, as he explained, it’s OK. but I was quite suprised I can meet people like that here before his explanation.	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	this place is different from pretty much anything you could have seen before	[16:56]
rithm	i poop'd	[16:57]
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mircea_popescu	jurov: was it said anywhere what will be s.qntr revenue source? iirc ads and affilitare links were ruled out << well, a venue like that can be supported by subscription or advertising. leaning more towards subscription core with an advertising supported outreach, but it's really much too soon.	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	rithm pics or it didn't happen.	[16:57]
rithm	what is a coinut	[16:58]
rithm	oh apparently it's an option exchange	[16:58]
xinxi	haha	[16:58]
rithm	does it cost 30 BTC to sign up?	[16:58]
xinxi	no, you don’t need any to sign up.	[16:58]
thickasthieves	only once it's hacked	[16:58]
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thickasthieves	lol this Chopper guy is pretty funny	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	it can't be hacked, it's in c. says so on the /security page.	[16:59]
xinxi	coinut is some kind of nuts made from bitcoins.	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	;;google you've got two coinuts and you're banging them together	[16:59]
gribble	March 2014 - Huckleberries Online - Spokesman.com: ; Australian Govt. form asks if I own any Bitcoin of Cryptocurrency ...: ; Up The Ante to Shut Down the Stampede – No More Dead Horses ...:	[16:59]
rithm	i could go for a nice coinut sammich right now	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	why is gribble's google so scammy ? i get http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFXG3r_0B8 on the 2nd spot in google.	[17:00]
assbot	Monty Python-Coconuts - YouTube	[17:00]
thickasthieves	maybe google has assbot profiled	[17:00]
rithm	twitter bootstrap, godaddy ssl, c++ backend	[17:00]
rithm	what cotuld go wrong amir	[17:01]
xinxi	mp, i did not mention it’s c so it’s not going to be hacked.	[17:01]
kakobrekla	you just did!	[17:01]
xinxi	but our system is distributed, hacking the web program doesn’t make you rich.	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	well now that depends.	[17:02]
xinxi	I did mention it’s c. but i did not claim the causality.	[17:02]
kakobrekla	a ok	[17:02]
xinxi	yeah, it depends, but it’s harder to hack.	[17:02]
rithm	telling this channel it's not going to be hacked is like asking for a free pentest	[17:02]
thickasthieves	not a bad deal	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	i've heard worse	[17:02]
xinxi	actually many people have tried to hack it. :-)	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	speaking of worse deals : to counteract what they call "inflation" but is moreover a very drastic "batten down the hatches" middle class response, which sent durable goods tumbling 70%!!!!	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	argentine govt came up with a "buy anything on 12 months' time without interest, using your cc" plan	[17:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00073633 = 34.2393 BTC [-] {4}	[17:03]
kakobrekla	actually many people have tried to hack it. :-) < any btc service that holds more than 10 btc is getting 'hack' attempts all day every day	[17:03]
BingoBoingo	Can anyone else see qntra this morning or is every one else seeing our page as suspended by the host?	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	their idea being that getting locals to use ccs more instead of cash will be worthwhile on the long term.	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	if this country doesn't go bankrupt and with food riots in 2015 you may call me names.,	[17:04]
rithm	Account Suspended	[17:04]
rithm	This Account Has Been Suspended	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo shit what happened there ?	[17:04]
Apocalyptic	same here BingoBoingo	[17:04]
kakobrekla	lol!	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	mine's kjust not loading	[17:04]
punkman	too much traffics!11	[17:04]
xinxi	yeah, as a computer scientist, I pretty much enjoy watching them hacking my system.	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	whoa srsly ?	[17:05]
Apocalyptic	BingoBoingo, where are you hosting this ?	[17:05]
rithm	/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi () { }; bash -c 'true <	[17:05]
rithm	echo "CVE-2014-7186 vulnerable, redir_stack"	[17:05]
rithm	i'm just joshing you	[17:06]
Apocalyptic	dat haxor	[17:06]
rithm	wasn't it funny	[17:06]
BingoBoingo	Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo look in your mail, i made you an account, should be fine.	[17:07]
xinxi	not bad.	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	move it there asap.	[17:07]
thickasthieves	;;isitup qntra.net	[17:07]
gribble	Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.	[17:07]
thickasthieves	;;isitdown qntra.net	[17:07]
gribble	qntra.net is up	[17:07]
thickasthieves	i get Account Suspended	[17:08]
rithm	i've got a root shell!	[17:08]
kakobrekla	USG is after you!	[17:08]
kakobrekla	i guess it was NASA.	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	rithm shitty host eh.	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo do you have cazalla phone# ?	[17:08]
thickasthieves	bingo, btw, my page load issue never relaly disappeared	[17:08]
Apocalyptic	rithm, you're trolling right ?	[17:08]
rithm	don't hack me bro	[17:09]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo do you have cazalla phone# ? << no	[17:10]
rithm	pick up the mouse and say hello Cazalla	[17:10]
xinxi	rithm, are you really checking my site?	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	well so get it, you're in such diff timezones you can do 100% coverage, gotta be able to talk	[17:10]
rithm	why would i do that am i being paid right now	[17:10]
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rithm	you guys need to call your system administrati	[17:11]
xinxi	i am the admin	[17:12]
rithm	maybe change your dropbox password too amirite	[17:12]
xinxi	that sounds a good suggestion.	[17:13]
rithm	BingoBoingo didn't qntra basically scrape other sites	[17:13]
BingoBoingo	rithm: Not at all, all original writing	[17:13]
rithm	oh ok	[17:14]
rithm	i thought you wer scraping away all the pretty from coindesk and plaigarizing it as your own	[17:14]
rithm	boy was a mistaken	[17:14]
rithm	*i	[17:14]
chetty	I wouldnt be surprised qntra got ddosed	[17:15]
rithm	that might've happened	[17:15]
thickasthieves	you get ddos, we suspend account, tyfyb	[17:15]
kakobrekla	they would take the ip offline then	[17:15]
rithm	8 year old botfarm ops ddos for fun these dyas i hear	[17:15]
kakobrekla	not show 'suspended page'	[17:15]
rithm	i agree with kakobrekla	[17:16]
thickasthieves	i assume this is insecure, but it's so tiny! https://www.hardwarewallet.com/	[17:16]
assbot	HardwareWallet.com - Secure USB smart card based wallet for crypto-currencies	[17:16]
rithm	what TOS did you violate BingoBoingo!?!	[17:16]
BingoBoingo	I imagint thickasthieves is right, got DOS, got suspend	[17:16]
Apocalyptic	they would take the ip offline then // not if it's a shared hosting setup	[17:18]
chetty	next article ...how we got ddosed in our first week ..	[17:18]
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thickasthieves	maybe if they were a little nicer to their commenters!	[17:19]
thickasthieves	;)	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	how about not.	[17:19]
thickasthieves	who cant love a site that tells self-important commenters to eat a dick?	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	people that need to eat some dicks ?	[17:21]
thickasthieves	goes great with a pound of clits i bet	[17:22]
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mircea_popescu	ideally taken off virgin cunts.	[17:22]
mircea_popescu	imagine, thousands of girls that'll never know lesbianism.	[17:22]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo look in your mail, i made you an account, should be fine. << Still awaiting mail delivery	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	uhm	[17:23]
mats_cd03	;;ticker	[17:26]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 398.05, Best ask: 398.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 398.03, 24 hour volume: 30190.14237715, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 396.186816381	[17:26]
thickasthieves	time to recharge	[17:27]
thickasthieves	that was a lot of up	[17:27]
thickasthieves	i slept about 45m last night	[17:28]
chetty	why so long?	[17:28]
thickasthieves	my body forced me	[17:28]
thickasthieves	only slept a couple the night before	[17:28]
kakobrekla	btcusd keeps you up?	[17:28]
thickasthieves	yeah, i'm on insane hot streak	[17:29]
kakobrekla	cool	[17:29]
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mircea_popescu	i thought you were short ?	[17:32]
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thickasthieves	i was, til 276	[17:33]
thickasthieves	then went long	[17:33]
thickasthieves	now i'm short again	[17:33]
thickasthieves	playing the waves	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	lol cool.	[17:34]
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thickasthieves	you know you IRC too much when you think selecting text anywhere copies it	[17:35]
mod6	heh	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	you can set your system to do that	[17:37]
mircea_popescu	!s Bitcoin_Eric	[17:37]
chetty	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/10/12/imf-austerity-is-much-worse-for-the-economy-than-we-thought/	[17:37]
assbot	1 results for 'Bitcoin_Eric' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Bitcoin_Eric	[17:37]
assbot	IMF: Austerity is much worse for the economy than we thought - The Washington Post	[17:37]
mircea_popescu	chetty heh.	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	"austerity is bad for bezzle, news at 11"	[17:38]
chetty	:P	[17:38]
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chetty	http://jacksonville.com/breaking-news/2014-10-13/story/ruck-containing-36000-pounds-crisco-stolen-florida	[17:42]
assbot	Truck containing 36,000 pounds of Crisco stolen in Florida \| jacksonville.com	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	ha! tide!	[17:43]
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chetty	crisco might be better to trade at that :)	[17:44]
mircea_popescu	fun fact : crisco was invented in order to broaden the supply base for soap production	[17:44]
chetty	next should be clorox	[17:45]
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asciilifeform	http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/233.jpg	[17:45]
asciilifeform	^	[17:45]
mats_cd03	wat	[17:46]
asciilifeform	re: fat.	[17:46]
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mats_cd03	wut -- fat bomb?	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 margerine (which is what all this crap is) is made by random esterification of various vegetable oils. results in longer chains, which are technically triglicerides	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	but becauise the process is random, a good chunk of them are innovative, which is to say, not found in nature	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	how their digestion works in humans is mostly a matter of chance	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	which i guess brings the side point for all the latter day big pharma purists : you oppose monsanto's genetic novelties ? how about margerine ?	[17:48]
chetty	down with both	[17:48]
mats_cd03	i'm a big fan of monsanto.	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	in other news, eat linoleum!	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	it's a great rug replacement, too!	[17:48]
*	asciilifeform will probably eat linoleum before this is through	[17:48]
kakobrekla	this?	[17:49]
chetty	asciilifeform, go for the shoe leather first, safer	[17:49]
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asciilifeform	boil accordeon first, traditionally, then belt, then shoes.	[17:49]
*	asciilifeform knows procedures	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	shit, someone should make a restaurant like that.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	only desperation meals served.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	"boiled acordeon, for 12"	[17:50]
asciilifeform	call it 'blokada'	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	definitely. блокада	[17:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16758 @ 0.00073804 = 12.3681 BTC [+]	[17:51]
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chetty	I do wonder if the ebola panic will disrupt the jit delivery system - that could get ugly	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	only austerity is bad	[17:52]
mats_cd03	a good time to be vegetarian	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 i thought vegetarians had more needs on a distribution network than normal people	[17:53]
mats_cd03	why would that be?	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	which accounts for why it only appeared after the industrial revolution made everything cheap and abundant	[17:54]
mats_cd03	meat spoils faster than dried goods.	[17:54]
mats_cd03	tell that to india.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	india is vegetarian nao ?	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, every curry i ever had was meat based	[17:54]
mats_cd03	they're still poor, so they're mostly vegetarian, yes	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	i doubt you seriously are proposing starvation diets as your model.	[17:55]
mats_cd03	i dunno.	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	vegetarianism as a chosen lifestyle != vegetarianism as a path towards untimely death.	[17:56]
chetty	you get hungry enough you wont care what the source of the calories is	[17:56]
mats_cd03	i have 40 pounds of quinoa and 40 pounds of lentils	[17:56]
mats_cd03	for zombie apocalypse, etc.	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	oic	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:56]
mats_cd03	and a kindle with a hand-cranked microusb charger!	[17:57]
mats_cd03	if i had to, i'm prepared to single handedly rebuild some modicum of civilization.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	wow those'd be so cute. do they exist ?	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform remember the russian dynamo-flashlights ?	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	light-and-labour ?	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_kw=Russian+Zip+Flashlight 20 bux on ebay hah	[17:59]
assbot	Russian Zip Flashlight \| eBay	[17:59]
mats_cd03	http://www.grainger.com/product/20VE96 i bought something like this	[18:00]
assbot	ETON Backup Battery,Silver,1-1/8in.D - Weather Radios - 20VE96\|NBOTU4000S - Grainger Industrial Supply	[18:00]
chetty	uh, something is off here, a prepper that like monsanto ..no add up	[18:01]
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ben_vulpes	today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.	[18:03]
chetty	today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.//nah just a little branch	[18:04]
ben_vulpes	davout: how've you been?	[18:04]
ben_vulpes	and also where	[18:04]
mats_cd03	monsanto makes it possible to feed more people with less. whats not to like?	[18:04]
ben_vulpes	chetty: just a wee touch of the inflation hidden in decreasing quality.	[18:04]
chetty	mats_cd03, that it mostly kills those people ...	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 exactly that.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	feeding more people with less is exactly evil.	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	either feed more people with better or feed fewer people with better. but less... no.	[18:10]
mats_cd03	a difference of opinion.	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	what exactly is the opinion you're holding here ?	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	"it's okay for things to go to shit, as long as there's more of us" ?	[18:12]
mats_cd03	it's ok for things to go to shit, as long as some of us can be more productive with the land that's left.	[18:12]
mats_cd03	arable land, anyway	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	seems a recipe for disaster.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	i dunno that i can in good conscience call that an opinion.	[18:12]
mats_cd03	confounding variables.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	no but i mean... "joe thinks 3x4 = 12, moe thins 3x4=13" this isn't a difference of opinions, inasmuch moe's thing isn't an opinion.	[18:13]
mats_cd03	are you disputing that GMO crops increase yields?	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	yes, actually.	[18:15]
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thickasthieves	fukcing taxes	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	suppose i have a car factory, and you came by and proposed to sell me a patented mechanism which when added to the factory, "increased yielkds' by 50%.	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	so i pay, you install it, and lo and behold, i am producing 50% more units	[18:15]
mats_cd03	so, a flounder gene spliced into tomatoes that permit growth in regions that wouldn't support tomatoes naturally	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	except they're bicycles.	[18:15]
mats_cd03	this is not increasing yields of tomatoes?	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	i'd fucking sue you.	[18:16]
nubbins`	it's not like people are buying monsanto seed and saying "hey, wait, this isn't what i paid for"	[18:16]
nubbins`	they	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	the entire "monsanto increases yields" fallacy is based on the fraudulent proposition that shit-tomatoes are = tomatoes.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	this doesn't hold.	[18:16]
nubbins`	're buying it and saying "fuck me and everyone i know who has this job"	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` yes, but a gullible public is scarcely an excuse.	[18:16]
thickasthieves	it's only a crime if you get caught!	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[18:16]
nubbins`	it's only a crime if you can't afford to commit it	[18:17]
nubbins`	wifi-enabled printers, not the best idea	[18:17]
nubbins`	ever try sending your printer a 25mb document via wifi?	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	wifi enabled printers are great, you can send people pronz	[18:18]
nubbins`	great until you've got a court date in an hour and you can't get your evidence printed in a timely fashion ;/	[18:18]
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mircea_popescu	printing your evidence an hour before court date ?	[18:18]
ben_vulpes	fuck wifi enabled printers.	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	you methhead you	[18:19]
ben_vulpes	they never come with modern chips, so i have to detatch from my primary network to use the printer in our office.	[18:19]
nubbins`	8)	[18:19]
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nubbins`	this methhead is gonna win	[18:19]
ben_vulpes	people are very aware of how stupid this is, because i email them things that i want printed to remind them that they bought a poorly featured printer.	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[18:21]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 402.54, Best ask: 403.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.91000, Last trade: 403.49, 24 hour volume: 30406.49355436, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 396.288183921	[18:21]
pete_dushenski	http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Oct/53 << only osx 10.9 and 10.10 affected	[18:22]
assbot	Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-3671: DNS Reverse Lookup as a vector for the Bashvulnerability (CVE-2014-6271 et.al.)	[18:22]
ben_vulpes	and still unpatched.	[18:22]
ben_vulpes	i hate this thing.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski not so sure about that only.	[18:22]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: lol you updated?	[18:23]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: fair enough… "At this point of time the stock resolvers (in combination with the libc	[18:23]
pete_dushenski	library) of OSX 10.9 (all versions) and 10.10/R2 are the only known standard installations that pass the bash exploit string back and up to getnameinfo()."	[18:23]
pete_dushenski	"only known"	[18:23]
ben_vulpes	pete_dushenski: a great deal of the shop's work is ios. can't not and do what we're paid for.	[18:23]
pete_dushenski	absence of evidence != evidence of absence	[18:24]
ben_vulpes	work computer vs personal	[18:24]
mats_cd03	what are you, donald rumsfeld?	[18:24]
pete_dushenski	mats_cd03: maybe?	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	* PTR "() { :;}; echo CVE-2014-6271, CVE-201407169, RDNS"	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	epic tho	[18:24]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: makes sense.	[18:24]
mats_cd03	its nice to meet you, sir.	[18:24]
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mircea_popescu	!up ziggamon	[18:25]
-assbot-	You voiced ziggamon for 30 minutes.	[18:25]
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pete_dushenski	"11-10-2014 Apple confirms that with DL1769 in place that "The issue that remains, while it raises interesting questions, is not a security issue in and of itself."	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	sigh	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	what braindamage school do these people go to ?	[18:26]
thickasthieves	it's not a school in and of itself	[18:26]
mats_cd03	mircea_popescu: would ya happen to have any suggestions for this legal research? i'm drowning, atm -- i've got 5 relevant cases across 3 judges, and expended ~20 hours so far	[18:26]
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mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 i'd love to, but i can't do it in the abstract.	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	so tell me what you're doing and what the problem is ?	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 and i got a meeting now, so we'll resume in a few hours.	[18:28]
pete_dushenski	http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/34879/	[18:29]
mats_cd03	mircea_popescu: i am currently using the following search: JUDGE(BLAKE) & ("THE GOVERNMENT") & ("PAPERWORK" "PRIVACY" "SEARCH WARRANT" "ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE" "EMAIL" "SUPPRESS EVIDENCE" "HARD DRIVE" "TRANSMISSION" "WRITTEN") & DA(aft 12-31-1989 & bef 01-01-2003)	[18:29]
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mats_cd03	mircea_popescu: the problem is: too much noise and insufficient signal	[18:30]
pete_dushenski	^OpenVPN 2.2.29 - ShellShock Exploit	[18:30]
nubbins`	what research is this	[18:30]
mats_cd03	courts circus	[18:30]
nubbins`	oh, that's a throwback	[18:30]
nubbins`	i poked at that, way too much effort	[18:30]
nubbins`	see comments.	[18:30]
mats_cd03	i did	[18:30]
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mats_cd03	currently treating your list of judges as canonical	[18:31]
nubbins`	feel free to cut me in on your bounty	[18:31]
asciilifeform	dynamo flashlights << these are very popular here in usa also. sold nearly everywhere (cheap chinese crap, but, basic idea is same)	[18:32]
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nubbins`	i had a dynamo flashlight once, and it was fucking useless	[18:32]
nubbins`	maybe they're better these days	[18:32]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: if bought in north america in recent decades - inevitable plastic gears, worthless turd	[18:33]
nubbins`	i think it was actually a branded freebie, so definitely	[18:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.11445789 = 2.1747 BTC [+] {4}	[18:36]
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thickasthieves	i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/	[18:40]
assbot	\| MIT Bitcoin Trading Simulation Yields Profit of 89% in 50 Days	[18:40]
asciilifeform	MIT Nuclear War Simulation Yields Victory of 89% in 50 Days	[18:40]
thickasthieves	i'm fighting for la serenisima tho	[18:41]
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thickasthieves	http://www.theverge.com/culture/2014/10/14/6969631/meet-chelsea-manning-official-portrait-artist	[18:49]
assbot	Meet Chelsea Manning's official portrait artist \| The Verge	[18:49]
thickasthieves	"The only criticism Chelsea had," Cape says, "is that since she’s been in prison, she’s been working out every day. Now, she has a slimmer-looking face."	[18:49]
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punkman	is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com down?	[18:50]
thickasthieves	loads blank page for me	[18:51]
thickasthieves	http://anonabox.com/home.php	[18:52]
assbot	anonabox	[18:52]
Apocalyptic	loads blank page for me // same here	[18:53]
Apocalyptic	hax everywhere today	[18:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.15825875 BTC to 16`125 shares, 7183 satoshi per share	[19:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.97993760 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 520 satoshi per share	[19:04]
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ben_vulpes	log works for me	[19:11]
Apocalyptic	yeah it's back	[19:12]
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rithm	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8453223	[19:14]
assbot	Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in Freenode IRC network compromise \| Hacker News	[19:14]
ben_vulpes	i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/ << what the hell are idiots like this doing at MIT	[19:16]
assbot	MIT Bitcoin Trading Simulation Yields Profit of 89% in 50 Days	[19:16]
ben_vulpes	oh wait it's bezzle MIT	[19:17]
ben_vulpes	real MIT died with the lisp machines i guess	[19:17]
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xinxi	is gabriel_laddel here?	[19:20]
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thickasthieves	it's also hard to value what they did because you can simply tweak your trading method, backtest, and adjust til you get favorable backtest for the timeframe	[19:21]
thickasthieves	then you employ for next 2 mos and get raped	[19:21]
thickasthieves	employ it	[19:21]
xinxi	right, I traded for years in the FX market. Backtesting usually does not work well. The market is always changing.	[19:22]
thickasthieves	also they used a very small investment	[19:25]
xinxi	;;ident thickasthieves	[19:25]
gribble	Nick 'thickasthieves', with hostmask 'thickasthieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk	[19:25]
thickasthieves	useless	[19:25]
thickasthieves	try using their method with hundreds or thousands of btc and itll fall apart	[19:25]
xinxi	;;ident xinxi	[19:25]
gribble	CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None	[19:25]
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xinxi	yeah, the impact the bot will be very severe then.	[19:26]
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xinxi	are people working now? there are only a few here.	[19:32]
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xinxi	can anybody check whether the reply from digitalgrow racism? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0	[19:33]
assbot	[ANN] Coinut.com - Bitcoin Options Exchange	[19:33]
xinxi	I am from a country without racism, so I am not very sensititve to that.	[19:33]
danielpbarron	.. what?	[19:34]
xinxi	facism. suprised?	[19:34]
RagnarDanneskjol	xinxi - you need to HTFU	[19:34]
xinxi	yeah, I know. I just need to know the fact.	[19:34]
TomServo	xinxi: Seems more idiotic than racist.	[19:35]
thickasthieves	xinxi cmon now	[19:35]
thickasthieves	no one gives a shit if youre chinese	[19:35]
thickasthieves	no one that matters	[19:35]
thickasthieves	dont worry about racism	[19:36]
danielpbarron	there's no racism in china?	[19:36]
thickasthieves	they are alienating themselves not you	[19:36]
danielpbarron	don't they like.. hate the japs?	[19:36]
thickasthieves	hehe	[19:36]
thickasthieves	use the ignore feature liberally on that forum	[19:37]
thickasthieves	just dont ignore people only cuz they disagree	[19:37]
xinxi	you know the reason why we hate jps.	[19:37]
thickasthieves	cuz ur racist?	[19:37]
xinxi	we don’t hate all japs.	[19:37]
thickasthieves	:)	[19:37]
thickasthieves	maybe you dont hate japs at all	[19:37]
mats_cd03	meh. japs are in their own circle of hell atm	[19:38]
mats_cd03	who cares?	[19:38]
xinxi	i hate the japs who killed so many people.	[19:38]
xinxi	but i like normal japanese people when i went to japan.	[19:39]
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xinxi	especially because they inherited and preserved traditional chinese culture quite well.	[19:40]
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RagnarDanneskjol	!up punkbot	[19:41]
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ben_vulpes	deeds demo?	[19:44]
thickasthieves	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/business/international/ireland-to-phase-out-tax-advantage-used-by-technology-firms.html?_r=0	[19:45]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times	[19:45]
punkbot	just setting up the account	[19:45]
punkbot	dry run worked, will try with actual BTC later	[19:45]
RagnarDanneskjol	ooh wee	[19:46]
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xinxi	Coindesk is asking me to publish a review.	[19:53]
xinxi	do you guys trust coindesk?	[19:53]
thickasthieves	no	[19:53]
thickasthieves	but they still are fastest with some news	[19:53]
thickasthieves	you just gotta filter out the scum sometimes	[19:54]
thickasthieves	they want you to review your own site?	[19:54]
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thickasthieves	how much do they charge you for that?	[19:54]
xinxi	1 BTC	[19:54]
thickasthieves	ha!	[19:54]
xinxi	cheap?	[19:54]
danielpbarron	;;rate PeterL 1 https://twitter.com/petermlambert/status/522066960042188800	[19:54]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded.	[19:54]
assbot	/PeterMLambert Are you in /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets? If so, what's your username?	[19:54]
thickasthieves	dude, they should be paying you if it's news	[19:55]
thickasthieves	at worst it should be free coverage	[19:55]
thickasthieves	but you reviewing your own site, paying them 1btc, makes them not a news site, but a shill	[19:55]
xinxi	yeah, it seems this defeat the purporse of a “review”.	[19:56]
thickasthieves	consider your own reputation in that transaction as well	[19:56]
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thickasthieves	tell them they can review it and you will facilitate with a test account and interview	[19:57]
thickasthieves	or whatever	[19:57]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00073931 = 31.051 BTC [+]	[19:58]
thickasthieves	if you pay, then they wont really review it, theyll just praise it	[19:58]
xinxi	i see	[19:58]
thickasthieves	but wtf do i know	[19:58]
thickasthieves	:)	[19:58]
xinxi	anyway, you do provide useful suggestions.	[19:59]
xinxi	thanks	[19:59]
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thickasthieves	np gl	[20:01]
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asciilifeform	https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732	[20:10]
assbot	Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in freenode IRC network compromise \| NCC Group	[20:10]
assbot	Logged on 24-08-2014 23:34:47; mircea_popescu: pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday.	[20:10]
asciilifeform	the 64 mega-buck question - whence came the pwnhole. the rootkit, while well-made, is considerably less interesting.	[20:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00073634 = 1.804 BTC [-]	[20:26]
thickasthieves	nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do	[20:28]
thickasthieves	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/14/us-usa-fed-williams-idUSKCN0I31Y720141014	[20:29]
assbot	Exclusive: More QE might be appropriate if U.S. economy faltered- Fed's Williams\| Reuters	[20:29]
thickasthieves	we're gonna need more fuel for dis fire!	[20:29]
thickasthieves	right away sir!	[20:30]
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xinxi	hey, I need a market maker for my site.	[20:37]
xinxi	who can do that?	[20:37]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[20:39]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 407.59, Best ask: 408.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.64000, Last trade: 408.24, 24 hour volume: 29325.78568430, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 398.164634543	[20:39]
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gabriel_laddel	16:18:34xinxi:is gabriel_laddel here? << people generally read the logs, and there is a feature for gribble known as ";; later"	[20:42]
xinxi	I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them.	[20:42]
xinxi	Thanks gabriel_laddel.	[20:43]
thickasthieves	;;later tell xinxi This is how to use later tell :)	[20:44]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[20:44]
thickasthieves	;;messages	[20:44]
gribble	Error: "messages" is not a valid command.	[20:44]
TomServo	;;notes	[20:44]
thickasthieves	;;mail	[20:44]
gribble	I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, xinxi, and Zerock.	[20:44]
gribble	Error: "mail" is not a valid command.	[20:44]
thickasthieves	ah	[20:44]
thickasthieves	thx	[20:44]
xinxi	;;notes	[20:44]
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gribble	I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, xinxi, and Zerock.	[20:44]
TomServo	np	[20:44]
xinxi	;;notes xinxi	[20:45]
gribble	Error: I have no notes for that nick.	[20:45]
thickasthieves	note that notes arent private ;)	[20:45]
thickasthieves	;;notes usagi	[20:45]
gribble	Sent 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 37 minutes ago: hey what's your history like with kakobrekla?	[20:45]
thickasthieves	hehe	[20:45]
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xinxi	;;notes xinxi	[20:46]
gribble	Error: I have no notes for that nick.	[20:46]
xinxi	where is the note?	[20:46]
thickasthieves	gribble pm's you when you next appear with your note	[20:46]
thickasthieves	do you have a pm from gribble?	[20:46]
xinxi	oh, i see it.	[20:46]
xinxi	it’s convenient.	[20:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24989 @ 0.00073539 = 18.3767 BTC [-] {2}	[20:51]
gabriel_laddel	;; google site: loper-os.org mpex review	[20:54]
gribble	Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: ; Loper OS » Bitcoin Adventures.: ; Loper OS » Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope.:	[20:54]
thickasthieves	;;ticker	[20:54]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 412.0, Best ask: 413.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.68000, Last trade: 411.0, 24 hour volume: 29479.34772437, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 398.364299354	[20:54]
kakobrekla	arent you sleeping	[20:54]
thickasthieves	lol not yet	[20:54]
kakobrekla	the longest streak i had with pc was 72hrs	[20:54]
thickasthieves	i'm developing pains though, need better chair	[20:55]
thickasthieves	for some reason i was sitting on my hand for like 20min and now my wrist is hurt	[20:56]
xinxi	thickasthieves, which timezone are you in?	[20:56]
kakobrekla	as long as its not carpal tunnel	[20:56]
thickasthieves	such a disciplined hodler	[20:56]
thickasthieves	EST	[20:56]
thickasthieves	it's 2pm	[20:56]
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xinxi	I see. it’s 2 am here. I need to go to sleep. talk to you tomorrow.	[20:57]
gabriel_laddel	17:40:23xinxi:I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them. << tbh, I got bored within the first 1-2 minutes of browsing around. you probably want to pay someone who knows about copy, marketing etc. to fix it.	[20:57]
thickasthieves	ttyl	[20:57]
kakobrekla	thickasthieves do you find everything funny yet?	[20:58]
thickasthieves	nope, but i'm probly gonna consult some wacky tobaccy and a pillow soon	[20:58]
kakobrekla	me and my friend found that after about 24hrs things start to get funny.	[20:59]
kakobrekla	friends*	[20:59]
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thickasthieves	happened to me once too, but i was on some drug no one told me the name of	[20:59]
kakobrekla	heh	[20:59]
thickasthieves	X1B or someshit	[21:00]
thickasthieves	hippy festivals...	[21:00]
xinxi	yeah, a good designer is going to make it better.	[21:00]
kakobrekla	from the experiments above, only caffeine was allowed	[21:00]
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kakobrekla	Thank you for submitting a ticket with us today.	[21:02]
kakobrekla	We apologize for the inconvenience. It appears that there is a stuck process on this hypervisor at this time.	[21:02]
kakobrekla	I'm going to escalate this ticket to get this cleared up for you.	[21:02]
kakobrekla	mtgox style	[21:02]
kakobrekla	hehe	[21:02]
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thickasthieves	lawsky live in 4hrs http://cardozolaw.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=01b5be00-c8df-4688-a1dc-5302b6ca3c7e	[21:04]
assbot	HTTP 500 : Internal Server Error	[21:04]
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kakobrekla	lawlsky	[21:05]
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thickasthieves	i have a feeling he's gonna hold the line and keep the excessive regs	[21:06]
thickasthieves	goat is gonna be at the lawsky thing	[21:07]
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thickasthieves	or at least someone who purports to be goat on tview chat	[21:07]
thickasthieves	seems to behave like him	[21:07]
TomServo	hah, I didn't realize he was still around	[21:07]
thickasthieves	he aint around here though	[21:08]
thickasthieves	hehe	[21:08]
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thickasthieves	!up bgupta	[21:09]
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thickasthieves	bgupta, you going to the lawsky thing tonight?	[21:10]
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thickasthieves	you should go and cover it for qntra http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-sqntr/	[21:11]
assbot	Introducing S.QNTR pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[21:11]
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kakobrekla	thickasthieves if 'goat' says he is going to sue lawlsky, its the real thing.	[21:14]
BingoBoingo	!up devthedev	[21:14]
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gabriel_laddel	;; gettrust devthedev	[21:14]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=devthedev \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev \| Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014	[21:14]
devthedev	Hi gabriel_laddel	[21:15]
gabriel_laddel	well hello	[21:15]
devthedev	BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance.	[21:15]
BingoBoingo	devthedev: New hosting has been arranged, waiting for cazalla to wake up and aim the domain	[21:16]
devthedev	Okay	[21:16]
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BingoBoingo	Site was Dos'd yesterday morning, prolly Dos'd harder this morning	[21:16]
devthedev	That isn't much of a surprise	[21:17]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance. < you have a death wish?	[21:18]
devthedev	Lol	[21:19]
BingoBoingo	devthedev: kakobrekla had to deal with BitBet DOs's	[21:19]
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mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[21:21]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 409.11, Best ask: 411.35, Bid-ask spread: 2.24000, Last trade: 411.72, 24 hour volume: 30648.07962933, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 400.402158319	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[21:22]
kakobrekla	and haxors with liabilities	[21:22]
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mircea_popescu	you mean disabilities ?	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol send it to punkman's thing once it's up	[21:23]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:23]
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mircea_popescu	mats_cd03 the proper avenue would be to put all this into a large file and then grep the hell out of it ?	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	rithm> https://news.ycombinator <<< yeah, they copied it from logs.	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	which logs you should probably read.	[21:25]
bounce	in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.) << perversely I do enjoy writing input parsers in C or C++. it's not even that hard, with the right approach, though some encodings make it unnecessarily annoying.	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	I am from a country without racism, so I am not very sensititve to that. << a) are you kidding ?! b) why'd you care ?!	[21:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56315 @ 0.00073436 = 41.3555 BTC [-] {4}	[21:27]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo gave qntra its own ip too.	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	xinxi: do you guys trust coindesk? << the reason qntra.net exists is because we emphatically do not trust coindesk	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	and if you know any chinese people who would be interested in covering btc in china, from mining to anything else, there's prbably a job opening there	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	hickasthieves: they want you to review your own site? <<< who was saying earlier the coindesk spam is "not from coindesk" ? Hm ?	[21:35]
jurov	bounce and did your parsers ever underwent pentest?	[21:35]
bounce	http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11342371	[21:35]
assbot	South Korea identity thefts forces ID overhaul - Business - NZ Herald News	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	xinxi: cheap? << it's a scam. you're better off paying 1btc for facebook ads.	[21:35]
devthedev	^^	[21:35]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2014#873009 << funny how that works, eh asciilifeform ?	[21:36]
assbot	Logged on 14-10-2014 17:07:36; asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732	[21:36]
bounce	no specific pentests, no, but I usually do try and hit all the corner cases and esp. if it has to go back and forth, write both sides of the link so I'm sure they can talk to each other.	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	funny how mp has the news a week early and errrything.	[21:36]
jurov	bounce: I did HTTP stuff in C (dev/maintainer of ziproxy.sf.net) and it was just plainly impossible to do everything right, it had bugs all the time	[21:37]
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mircea_popescu	the very few people i knew who actually got c code consistently right eventually gave up and moved to asm	[21:38]
*	bounce was on the receiving end of a project where there wasn't a reference output generator for their extraspecial hand-crafted "xmlrpc" parsing, written in stereotypical India.	[21:38]
jurov	HTTP in asm faints	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	jurov you know this is what they should have people do in prison. forget those dumbass straw braiding things	[21:39]
bounce	haven't really looked into http but I'm not surprised it's on par with html, ie not really parseable. esp. the w3c specs stand out because they're only written for the html writer, with nary a thought to the parser writer.	[21:39]
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jurov	yes, i'm quite a reiser fan	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves: nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do << nah it wasn't a mole, it was an exploit. either the bash thing or something else not yet announced.	[21:40]
jurov	he should get allowed to continue from prison	[21:40]
bounce	shouldn't've killed the girl, there's much more deserving people in free software land.	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	o is this the namesys guy that killed his wife ?	[21:43]
jurov	Oh and i do agree, C/C++ is fun. Till you have to maintain it.	[21:43]
jurov	mircea_popescu: yes	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	i dun get why these guys don't just move to saudi arabia.	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	it's just as much connected to the internet as rural pennsylvania or w/e	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	and if wife doesn't want to come you know right there she's angling to get murdered.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	just like the tsa works!	[21:44]
jurov	you ever murdered any?	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	nope	[21:45]
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mircea_popescu	i never had any.	[21:45]
jurov	oh that	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	not that i see why anyone would. just ditch her.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	and don't be dumb enough to live in any sort of common property arrangement, if that's what's bothering you.	[21:46]
bounce	gah. found a piece of software that promised to let me configure some obscure hardware I happen to have. doesn't compile on freebsd because linuxisms all over. yet it does have supposedly-freebsd-enabling #ifdefs here and there. something with release engineering, lack thereof.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	thickasthieves: i'm developing pains though, need better chair << you sound just like a kid that's overexicted about "being a trader" and about to do very dumb shit.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	how about a coupla days off.	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	btc ain't going anywhere in the interval.	[21:47]
mike_c	+1 tat. take your winnings and sleep.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	dude the people who run wordpress...	[21:49]
bounce	at least they're in good company	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	so i sent this notification thing to all the god damned blogs that were used in the ddos last month. like 80k in and im not even done in any sense.	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	the emails i get tho... because these are WORDPRESS users right, so they can't leave fucking comments, they email	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	half of them clearly have no fucking idea wqhat a computer even is. at all.	[21:50]
rithm	it's the box the porn comes out of, duh.	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	i wouldn't be surprised to find that something like a computer in three was actually raped	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	in the literal sense, insert penis dent unit	[21:51]
rithm	hahaha\	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	apparently they've been discussing it in their dedicated forum (50+ ppl mentioned it, NOT ONE thought to link the fucking discussions, because they're on the internet ,right ? what is a linlk ?)	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	and they came to all SORTS of fucktarded conclusions	[21:53]
mircea_popescu	the internet should never have been opened to the public.	[21:53]
mircea_popescu	you want to wank it to teenage pov poon, get a fucking degree.	[21:53]
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mircea_popescu	thickasthieves: X1B or someshit << wtf is that ?!	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	!up cypherc	[21:55]
-assbot-	You voiced cypherc for 30 minutes.	[21:55]
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TomServo	random stab - maybe 2CB?	[21:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 150 @ 0.01089999 = 1.635 BTC [+] {3}	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	what, like monsanto mdma ?	[21:57]
TomServo	Mayhaps? Could be anything at a hippie festival.	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	well except panda tears	[21:59]
BingoBoingo	https://gitlab.brokenpipe.de/stettberger/avremu/tree/master#README << CPU emulator in Tex	[22:01]
assbot	Christian Dietrich / avremu \| GitLab	[22:01]
rithm	it's some tried and true drug that was used recreationally for a half-century...except they added an isomer	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	"Here, when attempting to pick someone up or take someone out, “no” is not actually always a true rejection. Girls, perhaps as a shield against the chamuyo fired from all directions, are conditioned to almost invariably turn down guys at first and second, and maybe third approach. And for the other half of this symbiotic relationship, guys are conditioned to pursue with total abandon, which on (unacceptable) occasi	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	on turns into grabbing a stranger’s face in a club and trying to plant one on them, totally uninvited. In speaking with foreign-born male friends, the ambiguity of “no” comes up as the most oft-repeated frustration, as most have spent their lives understanding, rightly so, that “no” means to retreat."	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	rightly so ?!	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	heh mkay.	[22:01]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17717 @ 0.000736 = 13.0397 BTC [+] {2}	[22:02]
asciilifeform	Till you have to maintain it << the whole concept of 'software maintenance' is actually braindamaged. obligatory: http://www.niquette.com/paul/issue/softwr02.htm	[22:02]
assbot	Software Does Not Fail	[22:02]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[22:11]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 412.17, Best ask: 412.88, Bid-ask spread: 0.71000, Last trade: 413.15, 24 hour volume: 30604.77095579, 24 hour low: 381.29, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 400.630767114	[22:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 94 @ 0.1062766 = 9.99 BTC [-] {6}	[22:14]
mats_cd03	it rises	[22:15]
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kakobrekla	!s anonabox	[22:21]
assbot	0 results for 'anonabox' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=anonabox	[22:21]
kakobrekla	https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/augustgermar/anonabox-a-tor-hardware-router	[22:21]
assbot	anonabox : a Tor hardware router by August Germar — Kickstarter	[22:21]
kakobrekla	300k out of 7k hehe	[22:22]
mike_c	;;seen diana_coman	[22:22]
gribble	diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 3 hours, 32 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader	[22:22]
mike_c	that thing seems cool	[22:24]
thickasthieves	honeybox	[22:25]
thickasthieves	probly a better name	[22:25]
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mats_cd03	anonabox is a terrible idea	[22:26]
kakobrekla	sez 'open hardware'. does it come with electron microscope ?	[22:26]
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asciilifeform	'anonabox' << aside from the obvious objections - this apparatus is not only trivial to build (out of any reprogrammable 'linux router') but was even sold in the past, by others.	[22:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30308 @ 0.00073803 = 22.3682 BTC [+]	[22:27]
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asciilifeform	and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that!	[22:28]
mike_c	it's $50	[22:28]
kakobrekla	its 300k	[22:28]
thickasthieves	it's log!	[22:28]
mike_c	so don't use it to take over the world. still seems useful as cloaking device.	[22:29]
thickasthieves	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTrAVpK9blw	[22:29]
assbot	Log Commercial - YouTube	[22:29]
asciilifeform	300k << one could build a world.	[22:29]
mike_c	ah ascii, just wait til you have a 300k backlog of orders for cardano	[22:29]
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thickasthieves	what's a cardano?	[22:30]
kakobrekla	not gonna happen without the wifi	[22:30]
mike_c	cardano is last year's xmas gift	[22:30]
thickasthieves	what's a xmas gift?	[22:30]
kakobrekla	go to sleep	[22:30]
mike_c	tat you better go to sleep before you lose all your btc to the kiddies	[22:30]
thickasthieves	i tried	[22:30]
thickasthieves	i'm sitting in coin	[22:30]
thickasthieves	s'all good	[22:31]
mike_c	hard to go to sleep after successful all-night gambling binge :)	[22:31]
asciilifeform	if i had 300k, would have long ago been in the middle of product #2...	[22:31]
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mike_c	pre-orders!	[22:32]
kakobrekla	and wifi	[22:32]
thickasthieves	uhhh	[22:32]
bounce	so kickstart it	[22:32]
thickasthieves	you have like 9000btc orwhatever	[22:32]
mike_c	oh yeah.	[22:32]
mike_c	;;calc 440 * [ticker -last]	[22:32]
gribble	Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them.	[22:32]
asciilifeform	but i refuse to take pre-orders for equipment not yet produced and tested, and i think mp agrees with my reasoning.	[22:32]
mike_c	;;calc 440 * [ticker --last]	[22:32]
gribble	181860.8	[22:32]
bounce	huh. talk about useful error messages.	[22:33]
asciilifeform	mike_c, thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#854703	[22:34]
assbot	Logged on 02-10-2014 05:23:31; asciilifeform: i may have said it before, but i will repeat: s.nsa has a piggy (see mircea_popescu's site); every month, i invoice him for materials, get some btc. but, since i can't safely convert btc to usd where i live, i just sit on them. they will probably be buried with me. hence: s.nsa, presently, in practice runs on guess what (my pocket money...)	[22:34]
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mike_c	you shouldn't sell it anyway. tea leaves are all pointing up.	[22:35]
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bounce	oh the wisdom thrown away the world over, drinking tea but not reading the leaves.	[22:36]
kakobrekla	i prefer coffee. much less biased.	[22:37]
asciilifeform	mike_c: i doubt the shareholders would be happy with 50+% of the piggy burning in the fire of the confiscatory u.s. tax.	[22:37]
kakobrekla	we can wait. as long as we get the wifi.	[22:37]
kakobrekla	pls dont ignore me yet!	[22:38]
kakobrekla	too late now isnt it.	[22:38]
asciilifeform	lol	[22:39]
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asciilifeform	for our 'friends' reading this, i do not have the piggy in my own hands, nor remote access to it, cannot give it up in the torture room...	[22:40]
kakobrekla	yeah, but you would say that in either case	[22:41]
*	bounce gets the $5 wrench. one way to find out...	[22:41]
thickasthieves	yeah too risky to be cashing em anyway	[22:41]
thickasthieves	tea leaves say small chance of bubble	[22:42]
mike_c	bubble? we haven't even caught up to last bubble yet.	[22:43]
thickasthieves	bubbles come in all sizes	[22:43]
asciilifeform	too risky to be cashing em << yes. but the thing i am doing instead is also very ugly, and i'm genuinely surprised that there's been no hatemail over it.	[22:44]
bounce	who's partial to bubble tea?	[22:44]
gabriel_laddel	har	[22:45]
mike_c	hatemail is a poor motivator	[22:45]
thickasthieves	get vendors to accept btc	[22:45]
kakobrekla	take my 5bux order in btc or else ill take my biz elsewhere ?	[22:45]
thickasthieves	seems like a problem that needs to be stalled, s.nsa being throttled that hard	[22:46]
mike_c	say it with me. "retail adoption doesn't mean shit"	[22:46]
thickasthieves	solved*	[22:46]
asciilifeform	thickasthieves: get vendors to accept btc << that would not solve the problem of a 200+K usd machine sitting in my civilian home for easy confiscation by	[22:46]
thickasthieves	what, s.nsa cant have a legal operation in US?	[22:46]
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asciilifeform	... by enemy	[22:47]
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asciilifeform	we don't actually have rule of law in usa.	[22:47]
thickasthieves	hrm	[22:47]
thickasthieves	so hire henchmen in places where btc can be rendered	[22:47]
thickasthieves	and have them do some work	[22:47]
asciilifeform	thickasthieves: who is going to pay my relocation? you?	[22:48]
thickasthieves	s.nsa	[22:48]
asciilifeform	thickasthieves: henchmen are of precisely no use at this stage	[22:48]
thickasthieves	cmon you think shareholders would complain if the guy running the show needed to relocate on its dime?	[22:48]
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thickasthieves	of course i'm speaking out of turn at this point	[22:49]
bounce	you got more stuff to relocate than fits in a container and a suitcase?	[22:49]
thickasthieves	but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled	[22:49]
thickasthieves	do or do not	[22:49]
asciilifeform	thickasthieves: doesn't matter if the shareholders all wished this (in what hallucinogenic fantasy land?) - 300btc is simply nowhere near sufficient for this, considering esp. that most of it is direly necessary for the first mass production run.	[22:50]
thickasthieves	300btc?	[22:51]
thickasthieves	wasnt the raise like 10kbtc?	[22:51]
asciilifeform	bounce: suitcase << i have a ~30,000 volume library; a small machine shop; a woman; and a great many pieces of laboratory equipment.	[22:51]
kakobrekla	so, two suitcases.	[22:51]
asciilifeform	thickasthieves: read the s.nsa page on mircea_popescu's site.	[22:51]
TomServo	Holy library batman!	[22:51]
bounce	that's what, two suitcases and one large container, thereabouts?	[22:52]
mike_c	raise was ~460	[22:52]
thickasthieves	i'm so confused now	[22:53]
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mike_c	http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-october-2013-statement-1/	[22:53]
assbot	S.NSA, October 2013 Statement (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[22:53]
mike_c	472.76008500	[22:53]
kakobrekla	thickasthieves prolly confusing with the S.MG	[22:53]
thickasthieves	ahhh	[22:53]
thickasthieves	well then i need to stfu	[22:54]
TomServo	mike_c: give him some sleepytime tea	[22:54]
mike_c	srsly. at least he stopped trading.	[22:54]
asciilifeform	aha yes. i remembered almost the correct figure.	[22:54]
thickasthieves	where the hell is my bitcoin video game then!	[22:55]
thickasthieves	:)	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that! << you have any idea what cisco and friends sell stuff like balancing routers etc ?	[22:55]
mike_c	thickasthieves: it exists if you run linux. i heard a rumor diana_coman compiled it on windows, but have not verified.	[22:55]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: cisco << i personally oversaw robot legs (steel pipes) purchased for several hundy usd each, while a thrall of usg - much less cisco	[22:56]
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mircea_popescu	srsly ?	[22:56]
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mircea_popescu	ppls gotta up teh noobs.	[22:56]
asciilifeform	we talked about this. i can build planet for xxx usd, cisco - no.	[22:57]
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kakobrekla	i dont see them coming and im not going start to	[22:58]
kakobrekla	but i can make assbot do stuff	[22:58]
kakobrekla	like up unseen ppl	[22:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17699 @ 0.00073398 = 12.9907 BTC [-] {3}	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	bubbles come in all sizes << here's a good size : http://40.media.tumblr.com/d1de684d0883d3901ebc07fef4d7dd5d/tumblr_nbswvrlyaN1qcpg61o1_1280.jpg	[23:00]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla no, this is not something to be solved by technology	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	this is something to sparta!	[23:02]
kakobrekla	well bring a slave to up them then.	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled << eh, one of the major advantages of being listed on mpex is that people can make their own decisions. noine of that "gotta move to sf" bullshit.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself, and well, he's the only one in the position to make that plan	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	fuck do i know the details.	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[23:05]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 410.55, Best ask: 411.69, Bid-ask spread: 1.14000, Last trade: 412.43, 24 hour volume: 30935.36426451, 24 hour low: 382.0, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 401.996809897	[23:05]
thickasthieves	yeah i just thought snsa was rolling in coins	[23:05]
asciilifeform	deep inside the gravity well, probably not getting out alive; but will carry out project no. 1 and hopefully no. 2 as well before obola calls my name.	[23:06]
thickasthieves	made mistake	[23:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46343 @ 0.0007339 = 34.0111 BTC [-]	[23:07]
asciilifeform	unrelated, http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/14/iowa-libertarian-senate-candidate-doug-butzier-dies-plane-crash/17256595	[23:08]
assbot	Senate candidate dies in Iowa plane crash, hospital says	[23:08]
gabriel_laddel	;; google scott locklin fusion press release	[23:10]
gribble	Anatomy of a Fusion press release \| Locklin on science: ; Newer Posts - Locklin on science - WordPress.com: ; Design \| Locklin on science:	[23:10]
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cazalla	BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access <<< suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket	[23:14]
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kakobrekla	where was it hosted?	[23:16]
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cazalla	ventraip.com	[23:17]
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kakobrekla	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791369/20-stone-minister-public-health-accused-big-credible-hits-saying-s-s-inside-counts.html	[23:17]
assbot	Maggie De Block accused of being too big to be 'credible' as minister for public health \| Daily Mail Online	[23:17]
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kakobrekla	super fast server until you use them	[23:19]
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mike_c	was the excessive usage from an attack?	[23:23]
BingoBoingo	Probably, or host being shitty	[23:23]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-value/	[23:23]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/mlg-bitcoin-company/	[23:23]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/cavirtex-technical-issue/	[23:24]
mike_c	i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits..	[23:24]
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mike_c	plus, they get -2 points for serving a 200 with some fucking blank page instead of a 50x.	[23:25]
mike_c	screwing up my news widget.	[23:25]
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cazalla	i imagine its because of the guy that was dosing the other day	[23:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0007339 = 13.7606 BTC [-]	[23:26]
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kakobrekla	mike_c should prolly cache it locally	[23:26]
kakobrekla	i mean, on your boxen	[23:27]
cazalla	"Your account has been suspended due to many number of processes active at /home/bitcoinp/public_html/qntra.net/index.php. This processes were causing high server load."	[23:27]
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mike_c	it's cached for 10 mins. not much use showing a list of dead links.	[23:27]
kakobrekla	ah	[23:27]
asciilifeform	im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself... << i've lost count of the people who asked me about this. it's terrifyingly elementary problem - living is expensive. it's cheaper in, e.g., uganda, than usa, but the equipment i use does not get cheaper when far from the industrial world. on the contrary. and extraction of my own sorry hide, and that of my pet, in a way that still leaves me able to think and	[23:28]
kakobrekla	you got cut off	[23:28]
asciilifeform	... to think and work (no day job in the ugandan salt mines, for example) is not a cheap proposition. if i knew of a magical pill against this, i'd have swallowed it already.	[23:29]
bounce	there's more to this fancy industrial world than just the USA. oop norf you can even learn to speak french and stuff.	[23:29]
asciilifeform	ty kakobrekla (i'm working from a terminal, in a faraway place, for reasons of having to eat. not entirely irrelevant to this discussion...)	[23:29]
asciilifeform	bounce: i have no problem whatsoever with languages.	[23:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17871 @ 0.00073479 = 13.1314 BTC [+] {2}	[23:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.0007339 = 4.5135 BTC [-]	[23:31]
asciilifeform	fact is - and i confessed this before on several occasions - i can't afford to move my equipment overseas, certainly can't afford to repurchase it, and moving so much as 300km in any geographic direction would leave me immediately without an income. insta-zap.	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	!up pollos	[23:33]
-assbot-	You voiced pollos for 30 minutes.	[23:33]
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mircea_popescu	suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket << that's classy o.o	[23:34]
bounce	so is the broken inglish in the ticket response	[23:34]
cazalla	i had hoped it was the ISIS post	[23:34]
mircea_popescu	i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits.. << you don't know much about the shitbox biz model do you.	[23:35]
cazalla	so penguirker is gonna go nuts once it is back up	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform> i'd have swallowed it already. << well, being able to sell the cardano would probably fork for that purpose.	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	esp if 2nd product under development etc	[23:36]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: it's my one ticket. which is why i've spent 90% of my free time and 100% of my disposable income on it, for... a while.	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	note that i am not offering criticism, merely halping the pot air.	[23:38]
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mircea_popescu	%d	[23:51]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 320511.97 in 195 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.94	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo do you happen to have a backup at any point ?	[23:53]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform meanwhile, the hard questions : http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/#comment-108786	[23:54]
assbot	No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[23:54]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Back up of which thing?	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	qntra	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i propose we go with xmas. if it works it'll be lulzy and if it doesn't idem.	[23:54]
asciilifeform	xmas << that's where i'm mentally shooting for, yes.	[23:54]
BingoBoingo	Yes. Now that the domain's been pointed It's a matter of messing with configs until site comes alive	[23:55]
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mircea_popescu	aite.	[23:55]
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jurov	;;ticker	[23:56]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 407.06, Best ask: 407.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 406.79, 24 hour volume: 30175.72981510, 24 hour low: 387.63, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 402.113218182	[23:56]
jurov	id'be really sleepless in tat's place. lats i remember he shorted	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	generally before going to bed you put it in neutral.	[23:57]
jurov	*he was short	[23:57]
jurov	that's up to discussion what's neutral position here	[23:58]
mike_c	he said he's sitting on coin now. i took that to mean long.	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	shit why do these bottles keep emptying.	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	just once i wish i got one that fills instead.	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/	[23:59]

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