Forum logs for 14 Jan 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 617 @ 0.00469701 = 2.8981 BTC [-] [00:05]
Bugpowder kakobreakla I posted a varient NFL bet with shallow decay, I think it will perform better than the existing one. Please approve. Big funding already sent [00:06]
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thestringpuller yay I made new enemy [00:14]
thestringpuller may da war begin! [00:14]
kakobrekla enemty territory [00:14]
kakobrekla good game [00:14]
kakobrekla i played it a week ago [00:14]
kakobrekla enemy* [00:15]
kakobrekla 10yrs old or so [00:15]
thestringpuller i was only a baby then [00:15]
thestringpuller EskimoBob: I challenge you to a duel! [00:18]
* thestringpuller slaps EskimoBob in the face with a glove. [00:18]
Schadenfreude What kind of codex you're going to duel by? [00:23]
kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtAMc4i8OA [00:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [00:25]
Schadenfreude I thought something more classic, like Busson or Bolgar [00:25]
kakobrekla what [00:25]
kakobrekla this is a classic. [00:25]
kakobrekla http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067023/ [00:26]
kakobrekla a spielbergs thing. [00:26]
Schadenfreude I mean 19th century german honor code. [00:26]
kakobrekla a looky look, full movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnHjfGaN3kw [00:27]
thestringpuller i love this channel haha [00:29]
Schadenfreude Well, he wanted to duel so why not do it semi-properly, at least [00:36]
kakobrekla Dammit now i gotta watch it till the end again. [00:38]
Schadenfreude Kakobrekla, ever seen The Student from Prague or Der Untertan? [00:39]
Schadenfreude They're pretty old tho [00:39]
kakobrekla ill check it out if you think its worthy [00:39]
Schadenfreude If you find an english translation for them, they're pretty good [00:41]
Schadenfreude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSyEwZ7Zg5c - Did a terrible job at portraying the real thing tho [00:42]
dub from the 'overheard in goldman sachs elevator' twitter feed - The most and least successful people all share the same trait: thinking they.re never wrong. [00:43]
dub EskimoBob: where do you fall? [00:43]
dub heh [00:44]
dub #1: A chick I banged once and haven't seen since just added me on LinkedIn. #2: She wants you to give her 'the business' again. [00:44]
Schadenfreude Most successful people wouldn't be successful if they didn't *accurately* gauge their abbilities [00:45]
mircea_popescu let's see. buffett was pretty successful. [00:46]
mircea_popescu he doesn't seem to think he's never wrong. [00:46]
mircea_popescu maybe someone farted in that elevator ? [00:46]
dub HEH http://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/the-gym/ [00:49]
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mircea_popescu I’m 19th century sexy – pale skin and a fat ass, and fortunately, a fatter wallet. [00:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00457135 = 0.1829 BTC [-] [00:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1185 @ 0.00454328 = 5.3838 BTC [-] [00:52]
mircea_popescu lol. perfect for a two weeks rope&whips vacation. [00:52]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bugpowder pm. [01:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:19]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.325 = 3.25 BTC [+] [01:28]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ [01:31]
mircea_popescu 306:255 by now [01:31]
mircea_popescu im curious if it breaks the 1000 [01:31]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 26136992 / 21291345.0 [01:32]
gribble 1.22758764183 [01:32]
Namworld Well, considering the large amount of preorders and that they pulled off making an FPGA... I know making an ASIC is incredibly harder and expensive. [01:33]
Namworld But if one is to deliver ASICs, that would be BFL. [01:33]
thestringpuller It's like a futures on their delivery date... [01:33]
Namworld Although I seriously doubt their specs [01:34]
Namworld But they had enough funds to get an ASIC developed. [01:34]
kakobrekla i know for 2 more people that have enough funds, without taking preorders in the public [01:34]
kakobrekla one sent me a core pic yesterday :> [01:35]
mircea_popescu Namworld i don't think a couple million is enough funds [01:40]
mircea_popescu by about a degree of magnitude at the least. [01:40]
kakobrekla >>the difference is pretty high and so risks of failure - 150nm - $80k, 130nm - $200k, 90nm - $400k, 65nm - $800k - to get sample round. but with 90nm - it is 120 TH/s just in single engineering shot. [01:41]
kakobrekla >>physical verification (i.e. I give to physical verification engineer design + test vectors) - is about $30k and 1 month delay - but that dramatically reduces failure chances. [01:41]
kakobrekla bfl failed once so far. [01:42]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla what are those numbers ? [01:43]
kakobrekla to get a run done [01:43]
mircea_popescu per wafer costs of printing only ? [01:43]
kakobrekla to print ze chips [01:43]
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mircea_popescu yes. here's the thing : i was for a time working with a printing business. [01:43]
mircea_popescu they ran smallish (10-100k) sort of runs. [01:44]
mircea_popescu every given book cost between 10 and 20 dollars. [01:44]
mircea_popescu every given run cost between 20k and i think at most i ever signed off on a 95k typo bill. [01:44]
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mircea_popescu but usually the printing cost was <10% of the book. [01:44]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: how much was the printing firms start up costs, and how long have they been in operation? [01:44]
mircea_popescu and the great advantage of the printing business is that you don't need to pay the author at all. [01:45]
mircea_popescu he's happy with 50 cents per copy and his name on the cover. [01:45]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it was small, i wasn't there when it started up and it meanwhile folded [01:45]
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kakobrekla final installation w power w cooling w/o case is extra 2$ per W [01:45]
thestringpuller everything that has a beginning has an end [01:45]
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mircea_popescu so now here's the thing : your 500-1mn per wafer run costs are correct, [01:46]
mircea_popescu but they're also 10 to 1% of the actual cost of delivering a finished product. [01:46]
kakobrekla not with the hot glue used. [01:46]
kakobrekla r u crazy. [01:46]
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mircea_popescu lol ? [01:47]
kakobrekla leme find it for ya [01:47]
dub hot glued USB [01:47]
dub for superior thermal profile [01:48]
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dub and fans [01:48]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/1M/wG/1HqaXu01/yv4e6.jpg [01:48]
dub or is it how you attach your clock registers [01:48]
kakobrekla clock buffers. [01:48]
dub oh sorry [01:48]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla what about that ?! [01:48]
kakobrekla registers will be added in the next fail [01:48]
mircea_popescu lmao [01:48]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu note the hot glue errywhere [01:49]
dub I actually dont have a problem with that [01:49]
mircea_popescu omg wtf is that [01:49]
kakobrekla and also that thing [01:49]
mircea_popescu caulk ?! [01:49]
mircea_popescu please tell me thats not plumbing material ? [01:49]
kakobrekla that sticks the usbs to the side [01:49]
dub those fuckers would have wiggled free eventually [01:49]
kakobrekla dunno how you call it [01:49]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu HOT GLUE [01:49]
mircea_popescu duide that's caulk [01:49]
mircea_popescu look at it [01:50]
kakobrekla for ikebanas [01:50]
kakobrekla http://www.steinel.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/stw_106319104.png [01:50]
mircea_popescu http://www.lowes.com/images/LCI/Planning/BuyingGuides/bg_CaulkBG_specialty_caulk.jpg [01:50]
kakobrekla perhaps [01:50]
kakobrekla whatever it is [01:50]
thestringpuller kakobrekla: you in the chip building business? [01:50]
* jurov got an idea: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jan/13/investments-stock-picking [01:50]
kakobrekla well, not really. [01:50]
mircea_popescu jurov more EMT/MMT stuff eh ? [01:51]
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dub lol [01:53]
jurov or a reason to get a cat [01:53]
dub we could have got a rabbit to pick glbse stocks for a fund and see if it did better than usagi [01:53]
kakobrekla thestringpuller, i was helping fizzisist at the start with fpga, then i was workin with bitfury for a while to get his last batch out and now im also working for ET/TML in a way [01:54]
jurov rather a hamster, less space/upkeep [01:54]
dub of course we'd run out fo LSD [01:54]
mircea_popescu dub lol [01:55]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112876.msg1221157#msg1221157 [01:56]
mircea_popescu i was reading this otherwise very impressive thing [01:56]
mircea_popescu then i got to the table. deprived's fund made 20% in an interval ltc/btc went in his favour 50% [01:56]
mircea_popescu i take it glbse really fucked things up for people. [01:56]
jurov yea, brace ur. exactly this thing is going to invest into mpex and operate a pt ;) [01:57]
mircea_popescu the guy seems pretty on the ball tbh. [01:57]
mircea_popescu from what i've seen at least. [01:58]
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dub wat [02:02]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/119/the-spot-gold-price-will-trade-above-2000-oz/ [02:03]
mircea_popescu heh. [02:03]
mircea_popescu bitcoiners are goldbugs huh [02:03]
dub hard to take srsly, all this detailed info and analysis about enough money to buy mcdonalds [02:04]
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dub fear not, he has withdrawn half the balance from such and such exchange to secure a badly cooked steak against further loss [02:06]
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pigeons i made enough money to buy mcdonalds but i pissed it away so fast [02:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00454329 = 4.5433 BTC [+] [02:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115 @ 0.00454328 = 0.5225 BTC [-] [02:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 985 @ 0.00453792 = 4.4699 BTC [-] [02:09]
mircea_popescu dub i agree the entire volume is tiny [02:10]
pigeons remember kids, "if you don't believe in BFL, then you don't believe in bitcoin." [02:10]
mircea_popescu but why is that a bad thing ? [02:10]
mircea_popescu if the troop of "financiers" acting up on glbse had followed the same route [02:10]
mircea_popescu we'd be looking at a few btc total losses today. [02:10]
dub it seems like masturbation more than anything [02:11]
mircea_popescu ist is [02:11]
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dub he could make more money WORKING at mcdonalds [02:11]
mircea_popescu education is masturbation. [02:11]
mircea_popescu he could make more _money_ [02:11]
mircea_popescu money isn't everything. [02:11]
dub than writing all this forum fluff [02:11]
jurov oh he actually announced the passthrough below the last results [02:11]
jurov specifically states he needs to "cover 0.09 BTC/month brokerage fee" [02:12]
jurov yea that will be tough [02:12]
mircea_popescu well his total NW is what, 50 btc or so ? [02:12]
dub might need to go to the tooth fairy for a loan [02:12]
mircea_popescu lol you two meanines [02:12]
thestringpuller or fairy godmother bernanke [02:13]
pigeons linkie [02:13]
jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112876.msg1450475#msg1450475 [02:13]
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pigeons i remember when i found out my parents are the tooth fairy. i still don't know how they afford to buy every kid's teeth and how they sneak into the bedrooms and get back [02:15]
dub instantrimshot.com [02:15]
jurov mohairsluts.com [02:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.011 = 0.044 BTC [+] [02:16]
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mircea_popescu o no way [02:16]
mircea_popescu ffs. [02:16]
mircea_popescu im getting hohairsluts.com [02:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00453792 = 2.9496 BTC [-] [02:17]
mircea_popescu http://www.mohairsluts.com/Thumbnail_foto_bestanden/nathalie/tn_mohairsluts006.jpg [02:17]
mircea_popescu wtf i don't even [02:17]
pigeons "I believe so much in bitcoin that I wear this fucking button each day" --micon [02:17]
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drug_motor http://tinysong.com/qVud [02:21]
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dub wat [02:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00457753 = 5.9508 BTC [+] [02:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 254 @ 0.00459432 = 1.167 BTC [+] [02:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00453792 = 0.7488 BTC [-] [02:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 384 @ 0.00452778 = 1.7387 BTC [-] [02:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1763 @ 0.00452146 = 7.9713 BTC [-] [02:41]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 800 @ 0.15603262 = 124.8261 BTC [-] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 200 @ 0.15603262 = 31.2065 BTC [-] [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 720 @ 0.21996239 = 158.3729 BTC [-] [02:43]
kakobrekla >>Inaba, According to a couple of your posts in the BFL forums, there was going to be some kind of announcement from BFL, either today or tomorrow which should add some clarity to the current situation. Is this still true? [02:44]
kakobrekla >Yep, I've been working on it this afternoon. It's almost done and will be posted soon. I've tried to answer all the questions that have been asked so far and I don't think I've missed anything. [02:44]
kakobrekla ooo. [02:45]
JWU42 hmmm [02:45]
kakobrekla "we failed again" [02:45]
kakobrekla lets make a bet? [02:45]
kakobrekla a quicky. [02:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1432 @ 0.00452471 = 6.4794 BTC [+] [02:47]
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mircea_popescu lol [02:49]
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TradeFortress If you want to get the returns of MPOE bonds without actually buying them, PM me [02:50]
kakobrekla :O [02:51]
JWU42 "Update should be within the hour. Tomorrow some packaged chips should be shipping back to assembly to test some rigs is my bet." [02:51]
kakobrekla eh? [02:52]
mircea_popescu you srslty betting on that ? [02:52]
JWU42 nope [02:52]
mircea_popescu lol k [02:52]
JWU42 just pasting what I saw in their forums [02:52]
JWU42 I don't bet [02:52]
JWU42 ;) [02:52]
kakobrekla except for sd [02:52]
JWU42 oh yeah [02:52]
kakobrekla ... [02:52]
JWU42 that [02:52]
JWU42 ;) [02:52]
pigeons i do believe in fairies [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 429 @ 0.00459432 = 1.971 BTC [+] [02:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1721 @ 0.0046512 = 8.0047 BTC [+] [02:54]
jurov TradeFortress,gonna buy MPBPT ? :D [02:57]
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mircea_popescu Confirmed total: 943 BTC [02:59]
mircea_popescu o ya 1k is going away. [02:59]
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mircea_popescu remarkably tho : average bet is like 2 btc! [03:00]
kakobrekla 100b incoming [03:01]
kakobrekla w next block [03:01]
kakobrekla ;) [03:01]
mircea_popescu lol that lasted long [03:02]
mircea_popescu im curious which will be the first 1mn month. [03:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0046512 = 1.8605 BTC [+] [03:16]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is that a more recent picture of you [03:22]
thestringpuller reading the newspaper [03:22]
Bugpowder mircea, you put another 325 down on the BFL shipping? [03:28]
Bugpowder err NOT shipping [03:28]
kakobrekla thats not his addy [03:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1268 @ 0.00453512 = 5.7505 BTC [-] [03:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1032 @ 0.00452146 = 4.6661 BTC [-] [03:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00453244 = 9.0649 BTC [+] [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 605 @ 0.00452146 = 2.7355 BTC [-] [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00451817 = 0.009 BTC [-] [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2856 @ 0.00451808 = 12.9036 BTC [-] [03:46]
Bugpowder oh, is that people sending in bets directly from the MPEX account? [03:53]
kakobrekla hmm? [03:54]
Bugpowder How does that work. 1Fx3N is the MPEX deposit address [03:54]
kakobrekla a [03:55]
kakobrekla didnt notice [03:55]
kakobrekla it was in the outputs [03:55]
kakobrekla of the incoming [03:55]
kakobrekla just check the outgoing [03:56]
kakobrekla checked [03:56]
kakobrekla i dunno then [03:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [-] [04:04]
thestringpuller kakobrekla: the bot isn't working [04:06]
kakobrekla hm? [04:07]
thestringpuller i'm just trolling [04:07]
thestringpuller I'm bad at tit [04:07]
thestringpuller it* [04:07]
kakobrekla !ticker wtf thestringpuller [04:07]
assbot I cooked, I cleaned, and I sewed, and I have a right to get-- [04:07]
pigeons good at it [04:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 844 @ 0.00451808 = 3.8133 BTC [-] [04:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00451757 = 3.6412 BTC [-] [04:10]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [04:10]
assbot Provide exchange and ticker. [04:10]
Bugpowder !ticker m s.dice [04:10]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00451757 / 0.00463652 / 0.00475127 (129250 shares, 599.27 BTC), 7D: 0.004312 / 0.00467992 / 0.0048 (1917772 shares, 8,975.02 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00353248 / 0.0048 (11823034 shares, 41,764.64 BTC) [04:10]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [04:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15001, Best ask: 14.23299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08298, Last trade: 14.15001, 24 hour volume: 38939.12902034, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.10660 [04:12]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [04:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27000, Best ask: 14.27018, Bid-ask spread: 0.00018, Last trade: 14.27000, 24 hour volume: 40264.04375136, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11130 [04:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00456584 = 2.9678 BTC [+] [04:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00451757 = 0.4247 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1117 @ 0.00451713 = 5.0456 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1035 @ 0.00451663 = 4.6747 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 286 @ 0.00451516 = 1.2913 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00451039 = 0.3067 BTC [-] [04:30]
Bugpowder oops [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1282 @ 0.00451039 = 5.7823 BTC [-] [04:30]
Bugpowder fat finger [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1665 @ 0.00450947 = 7.5083 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 53 @ 0.00450832 = 0.2389 BTC [-] [04:30]
thestringpuller your a fat finger [04:32]
thestringpuller you're* [04:32]
Ukto If you hold YABMC shares, please cast your vote on it's future on the forums. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75867.380 [04:33]
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Bugpowder kakobrekla, the closing times for the bets I posted are off. Closing happens at the start of the day not the end of the day, so now all my bets are closing Friday night instead of Sat. [04:34]
Bugpowder despite my setting of the closing day to 12-20 [04:34]
Bugpowder err [04:34]
Bugpowder 1-20-2013 [04:34]
kakobrekla i halted bb daemon for a sec now [04:35]
kakobrekla i can change that if it needs to be, no bets yet confirmed on em [04:35]
kakobrekla hm [04:36]
Bugpowder ok... Yeah, originally you said it was end of day, but when I set it up last week, I saw it was start of day. Thats why I shifted the resolution time to the 22nd, to try to catch it at 24:00 of the 19th / 0:00 of the 20th [04:37]
kakobrekla yes that was my mistake [04:38]
kakobrekla as soon as gmt time >= date [04:38]
kakobrekla its closed [04:38]
Bugpowder yup [04:38]
kakobrekla hm [04:39]
kakobrekla your proposed date was 1358812800 [04:39]
Bugpowder uhh [04:39]
kakobrekla which IS the reosolution timestamp [04:39]
kakobrekla in curious now [04:39]
kakobrekla hmmm [04:39]
Bugpowder did i f up? [04:39]
Bugpowder i thought I did 2 days before 22nd [04:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1347 @ 0.00450832 = 6.0727 BTC [-] [04:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 953 @ 0.00450698 = 4.2952 BTC [-] [04:39]
kakobrekla the unix time stamp is the same on proposal than on bet in the db [04:39]
kakobrekla now its possibly something else is wrong [04:40]
kakobrekla possible [04:40]
kakobrekla ill do a quick test [04:40]
Bugpowder also my txn's confirmed with the last block [04:40]
Bugpowder 21 min ago [04:40]
kakobrekla one sec we will get to that [04:41]
Bugpowder yup [04:41]
Bugpowder HUGE BFL ANNOUNCEMENT [04:42]
Bugpowder https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html#post10249 [04:42]
kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/128/test/ [04:42]
kakobrekla i pasted 1.2 in the form [04:42]
kakobrekla and its 1.2 [04:42]
kakobrekla no problem as far as i can see [04:42]
kakobrekla possibly the bet approve team changed the date [04:43]
kakobrekla deleted now [04:43]
kakobrekla (the test) [04:43]
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Bugpowder " When we announced the delay last month, we decided to go back and switch from our QFN package to a flip chip BGA (FCBGA) package. " I knew the chip bonding was going to be a problem. looks like it is [04:44]
kakobrekla anyway [04:45]
kakobrekla everything checks out here Bugpowder [04:45]
Bugpowder "Originally, we were at about .8w per GH (Yes, we built 20% into our announcements) and we are estimating that it's possible that a worst case scenario would lead to a bit under 1.2w per GH. " [04:45]
kakobrekla tell me now if you want me to do +1 day [04:45]
kakobrekla you have 30sec [04:45]
Bugpowder yes [04:45]
kakobrekla ok [04:45]
Bugpowder I want it to end on the morning of the game [04:45]
Bugpowder 00:00 [04:46]
kakobrekla 1358899200 ? [04:46]
Bugpowder no [04:46]
Bugpowder thats weds [04:46]
kakobrekla thats 24hrs more than current [04:47]
kakobrekla 1358812800+(60*60*24) [04:47]
Bugpowder 1358640000 [04:47]
Bugpowder oh [04:47]
Bugpowder you mean resolve? [04:47]
kakobrekla yes [04:47]
Bugpowder I just want betting to end [04:47]
Bugpowder at 1358640000 [04:47]
kakobrekla what did you mean? [04:47]
kakobrekla aaa [04:47]
Bugpowder however it takes [04:47]
dub what is the picture of in that post? [04:47]
dub needs login to enlarge [04:47]
kakobrekla end vote is 1358553600 [04:47]
kakobrekla so you get 1358640000 [04:48]
kakobrekla +24h [04:48]
kakobrekla ok? [04:48]
kakobrekla ya [04:48]
kakobrekla ok [04:48]
Bugpowder ok [04:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00456584 = 5.0224 BTC [+] [04:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00464467 = 1.8579 BTC [+] [04:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.0046512 = 1.1163 BTC [+] [04:48]
kakobrekla Bugpowder http://bitbet.us/bet/127/nfl-playoffs-new-england-patriots-8-5-over/ [04:49]
kakobrekla all good? [04:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0046593 = 6.2901 BTC [+] [04:49]
kakobrekla imma gonna fire up ze daemon [04:49]
Bugpowder dates look good [04:49]
Bugpowder now we jusss need some coin down on that shizz [04:49]
kakobrekla and the bet are in [04:49]
kakobrekla f5 [04:49]
kakobrekla about why its not instantly confirmed [04:50]
kakobrekla curretly i check at a new block [04:50]
kakobrekla its a bit suboptimal [04:50]
kakobrekla and will fix that soonish [04:50]
kakobrekla so this will be all faster [04:50]
Bugpowder no worries [04:50]
Bugpowder "Week of February 10th We implement the 1/3 shipping plan en mass 1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups" [04:50]
Bugpowder Please let this drive more betting on the YES side [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00468357 = 3.2785 BTC [+] [04:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1371 @ 0.0046876 = 6.4267 BTC [+] [04:53]
pigeons oh sorry, none of you were in any of those thirds [04:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 838 @ 0.0046876 = 3.9282 BTC [+] [04:55]
Bugpowder I think bitbet now officially has more bTC outstanding than betsofbitcoin [04:55]
pigeons ponzi [04:55]
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Namworld Anyone in here can loan about 100 BTC through BTC-BOND? [04:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00469855 = 0.9397 BTC [+] [05:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13105 @ 0.00063268 = 8.2913 BTC [+] [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064579 = 1.9374 BTC [+] [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16495 @ 0.0006458 = 10.6525 BTC [+] [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1487 @ 0.00469837 = 6.9865 BTC [-] [05:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 62 @ 0.00469621 = 0.2912 BTC [-] [05:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 392 @ 0.0046593 = 1.8264 BTC [-] [05:12]
TradeFortress I just realised assbot stands for assetbot :s [05:13]
kakobrekla thats a false presumption [05:14]
dub kakobrekla cant get none unless you got buns hun [05:23]
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kakobrekla >>>1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups" [05:24]
kakobrekla wait [05:25]
kakobrekla isnt that then the 1/2 plan [05:25]
kakobrekla how is randomly selecting between 2 1/3 any other than 2x 1/2 [05:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00452109 = 4.5211 BTC [-] [05:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507 @ 0.00450698 = 2.285 BTC [-] [05:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 406 @ 0.00450698 = 1.8298 BTC [-] [05:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1294 @ 0.00450501 = 5.8295 BTC [-] [05:33]
dub kakobrekla: maff [05:33]
pigeons and fings [05:33]
dub oh yeah [05:33]
Bugpowder no its different [05:36]
Bugpowder the random is non fifo [05:36]
pigeons http://www.businessinsider.com/imf-admitted-their-economists-were-wrong-2013-1 [05:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 606 @ 0.00450501 = 2.73 BTC [-] [05:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00450374 = 0.4954 BTC [-] [05:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] [05:54]
Namworld finest choice you could make [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 859 @ 0.00450374 = 3.8687 BTC [-] [06:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00450356 = 3.6028 BTC [-] [06:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.004502 = 2.251 BTC [-] [06:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 975 @ 0.00450129 = 4.3888 BTC [-] [06:02]
Namworld Well... outside MPEx that is. [06:05]
Namworld S.DICE is nice too [06:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 295 @ 0.00452109 = 1.3337 BTC [+] [06:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 816 @ 0.00456769 = 3.7272 BTC [+] [06:11]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [06:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.23001, Best ask: 14.29099, Bid-ask spread: 0.06098, Last trade: 14.28998, 24 hour volume: 40998.52702455, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.31480, 24 hour vwap: 14.11527 [06:12]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [06:17]
gribble Current Blocks: 216450 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1277 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 1 minute, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2910803.38168369 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.4244047981 [06:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1982 @ 0.00456769 = 9.0532 BTC [+] [06:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00468288 = 8.8975 BTC [+] [06:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00469855 = 4.2287 BTC [+] [06:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00470673 = 5.4127 BTC [+] [06:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470687 = 5.6482 BTC [+] [06:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00472364 = 2.598 BTC [+] [06:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00472602 = 8.9794 BTC [+] [06:25]
drug_motor http://tinysong.com/a0JV [06:31]
TradeFortress so that's why blocks are taking this long [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 916 @ 0.0046023 = 4.2157 BTC [-] [06:40]
dub why? [06:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062773 = 0.6277 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00062772 = 8.3487 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00471295 = 9.4259 BTC [+] [06:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00471127 = 5.1824 BTC [-] [06:58]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 10 @ 0.08799123 = 0.8799 BTC [+] [07:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472601 = 9.452 BTC [+] [07:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00472602 = 23.6301 BTC [+] [07:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00471127 = 8.2447 BTC [-] [07:07]
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TradeFortress dub: network hash rate down [07:12]
TradeFortress difficulty is set to retarget still in a while, so the diffficulty is higher than it should be [07:12]
TradeFortress -> blocks on average takes longer [07:12]
TradeFortress btw, if you're interested in insuring MPOE bonds and get some nice profit, let me know [07:14]
dub ;;bc,difchange [07:15]
gribble Error: "bc,difchange" is not a valid command. [07:15]
dub ;;bc,diffchange [07:15]
gribble Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -10.7363427947 % based on data since last change | -13.141668681 % based on data for last three days [07:15]
pigeons what does "insuring MPOE bonds" mean TradeFortress ? [07:16]
TradeFortress pigeons: it means that you cover MPOE losses if that happens, in exchange for taking a large cut of the returns [07:17]
pigeons of you want someone to go in with you on that, ok [07:17]
pigeons I'm doing the CoinBr.MBPT thing [07:18]
Namworld Anyone got BTCT.co/Bitfunder/Cryptostock things? I feel like shorting stuff. [07:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00471127 = 1.4134 BTC [-] [07:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1168 @ 0.00468137 = 5.4678 BTC [-] [07:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+] [07:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2465 @ 0.00470045 = 11.5866 BTC [+] [07:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1103 @ 0.00472602 = 5.2128 BTC [+] [07:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1182 @ 0.00475 = 5.6145 BTC [+] [07:48]
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Namworld I guess not [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0047146 = 6.8362 BTC [-] [08:09]
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Diablo-D3 TradeFortress is a spy! [08:12]
TradeFortress spy sappin' my sentry! [08:12]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller not really, that's from like luxor cca 2004 [08:18]
mircea_popescu How does that work. 1Fx3N is the MPEX deposit address << what's the problem ? you can put any addy you want in ther withdraw field [08:18]
mircea_popescu "Originally, we were at about .8w per GH (Yes, we built 20% into our announcements << that'd be 25% neh ? [08:19]
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mircea_popescu o hey, so bfl delivers in 30 days ? [08:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [-] [08:33]
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Namworld Someone felt like lending me some funds [09:00]
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Schadenfreude Namworld, you can always up it to say... 0.05% or 0.1%/day and perhaps more people will buy [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.0047146 = 3.0645 BTC [-] [09:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472297 = 0.2361 BTC [+] [09:48]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 60733342 / 21778561.0 [09:55]
gribble 2.78867561544 [09:55]
mircea_popescu 3ish to 1 bfl won't deliver. heh. [09:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11139 @ 0.0006368 = 7.0933 BTC [+] [10:05]
Namworld Too expensive [10:05]
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Namworld I once was at 0.5% weekly, which is not too far to 0.1%... too costly. [10:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00472297 = 4.2507 BTC [+] [10:13]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 7 @ 0.7894 = 5.5258 BTC [+] [10:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4750 @ 0.00468939 = 22.2746 BTC [-] [10:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 932 @ 0.00468137 = 4.363 BTC [-] [10:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 810 @ 0.00466556 = 3.7791 BTC [-] [10:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 743 @ 0.00466053 = 3.4628 BTC [-] [10:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00472297 = 0.2361 BTC [+] [10:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00473096 = 4.4944 BTC [+] [10:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00471904 = 4.2471 BTC [-] [10:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00473096 = 1.8924 BTC [+] [10:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064579 = 3.229 BTC [+] [10:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9462 @ 0.0006458 = 6.1106 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6170 @ 0.00065288 = 4.0283 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7202 @ 0.0006529 = 4.7022 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4468 @ 0.00065516 = 2.9273 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00065996 = 1.4209 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00065996 = 4.1577 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00065997 = 2.4419 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065998 = 0.66 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00065999 = 4.6199 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00065999 = 5.2799 BTC [+] [10:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939545 @ 0.00066 = 3260.0997 BTC [+] [10:42]
markedathome !! [10:42]
azx what is the source of income for MPOE? [10:43]
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markedathome mpoe.bot [10:43]
azx a bot? [10:43]
Namworld the options [10:43]
Namworld it buys/sells options on MPEx [10:43]
azx And those options are derivatives of what? [10:44]
Namworld so it basically goes long and short on BTC/USD at the same time. With an extra margin. [10:44]
azx or what is the underlying stuff [10:44]
markedathome calls and puts on the value of btc [10:44]
azx OK, I see. So everyone buying those must be most of the time on the looser side? [10:45]
azx loser* [10:45]
Namworld I suppose. Although they might be hedging. [10:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 150000 @ 0.0018 = 270 BTC [-] [10:46]
mircea_popescu azx notably in august buyers made a killing [10:47]
azx BBET, this is something new [10:47]
mircea_popescu but in general the thing with options is most expire worthless. [10:47]
markedathome bbet is bitbet.us, which launched a week or two ago [10:47]
mircea_popescu the 5th [10:47]
markedathome nice -->> [08:42:02] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939545 @ 0.00066 = 3260.0997 BTC [+] [10:48]
azx same as http://betsofbitco.in/ ? [10:48]
mircea_popescu no, much better [10:48]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe [10:48]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065956 / 0.00066 (5075034 shares, 3,347.30 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.0006573 / 0.00066 (11526130 shares, 7,576.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063499 / 0.00066 (47141395 shares, 29,934.58 BTC) [10:48]
azx better how? Looks like same stuff [10:48]
mircea_popescu cool! [10:48]
mircea_popescu yes well, superficially everything looks like the same stuff. [10:49]
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azx so how it's better then? :) [10:49]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ [10:49]
mircea_popescu for instance. [10:49]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: well [11:01]
Diablo-D3 doesnt that mean they're like a year behind? [11:02]
mircea_popescu i think first promise in june 2012 was for october [11:02]
Diablo-D3 I seem to remember a date before that [11:02]
mircea_popescu anyway, it's funny... i have so many bets about diff staying low through jan and feb [11:03]
Diablo-D3 asicminer is going to be getting the boards back soon [11:03]
mircea_popescu i could probably live all this spring only by cashing out what i made out of the poor performance of asic manufacturers [11:03]
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Diablo-D3 Imma reboot [11:07]
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Namworld hmm... assbot might be broken [11:09]
Namworld doesn't it normally show paid dividends? [11:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1194 @ 0.00466053 = 5.5647 BTC [-] [11:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 656 @ 0.00465944 = 3.0566 BTC [-] [11:11]
mircea_popescu Namworld it used to on the old twitter interface. [11:13]
mircea_popescu the new thing is in work. [11:13]
Namworld oh [11:13]
Namworld Well 50 BTC "dividend" on BitVPS [11:13]
Namworld It's actually the sale proceeds. [11:14]
mircea_popescu S.BVPS paid a total dividend of 50.00000000 BTC to 500`000 outstanding shares. #dividend #bitcoin #btc #stocks [11:14]
mircea_popescu it's on twitter. [11:14]
mircea_popescu http://twitter.com/MPEx1/status/290745904602951681 [11:14]
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Diablo-D3 Namworld: sale? [11:16]
azx BitVPS is still in business? [11:16]
Namworld because rg sold bitvps =/ [11:20]
Namworld liquidation clause [11:21]
Namworld he can't sell his majority stake, but needed to quit. So he liquidated. Every share has right to part of that. [11:21]
Namworld But the contract has a special clause where each previous shareholder keeps 1 share after the transfer. [11:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1344 @ 0.00465944 = 6.2623 BTC [-] [11:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 732 @ 0.00463695 = 3.3942 BTC [-] [11:23]
Namworld Well should get published soon, so it will be official. You can review it then. [11:24]
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azx Namworld: they are still in business? [11:26]
Namworld yes... Me, arij and phungus have been managing it for about a month. [11:27]
mircea_popescu azx yes, in the middle of an acquisition. [11:27]
mircea_popescu statement tomorrow. [11:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1579 @ 0.00463695 = 7.3217 BTC [-] [11:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4150 @ 0.00461007 = 19.1318 BTC [-] [11:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 934 @ 0.0046023 = 4.2985 BTC [-] [11:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 787 @ 0.00459318 = 3.6148 BTC [-] [11:31]
azx mircea_popescu: what is your involvement in all this? [11:31]
mircea_popescu "all this" ? [11:32]
azx scroll up 6 lines [11:34]
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mircea_popescu one lists on mpex by signing a contract with mpex. [11:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2213 @ 0.00459318 = 10.1647 BTC [-] [11:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2 @ 0.00458415 = 0.0092 BTC [-] [11:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 924 @ 0.00457255 = 4.225 BTC [-] [11:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2700 @ 0.00456985 = 12.3386 BTC [-] [11:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1859 @ 0.00456655 = 8.4892 BTC [-] [11:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00463745 = 6.4924 BTC [+] [11:49]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.7894 = 7.894 BTC [+] [12:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7894 BTC [+] [12:08]
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jurov Yes, you are right mpex.co appears to be Offline! [12:23]
jurov wut? [12:23]
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jurov mircea_popescu, mpex.co is not even DNS resolving ?! [12:30]
mircea_popescu hm [12:30]
mircea_popescu looking into this. [12:30]
mircea_popescu looks like a little bit of ddos. [12:38]
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Namworld Attempt to appease the mighty Internet Gods by uploading a ritual dance to youtube... or by burning some servers in sacrifice. [12:44]
Namworld Not going to help one bit, but at least it might be fun. =/ [12:44]
Namworld Ah well, that's sad. Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to complete my orders. [12:47]
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jurov Pirate!!! [12:55]
jurov ;;ident Schadenfreude [12:57]
gribble Nick 'Schadenfreude', with hostmask 'Schadenfreude!~m@178.115.248.26.wireless.dyn.drei.com', is not identified. [12:57]
Schadenfreude nah, not really pirate :P [12:57]
jurov Iirc he connected from similar ip [12:58]
jurov and your nick is so fitting atm [12:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] [13:00]
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Schadenfreude Ah, I know what you mean [13:00]
pirateat40 was in a trolly mood [13:01]
Schadenfreude I don't think there's any mechanism in place to prevent me from taking various nicknames : p [13:02]
pirateat40 and as I can have multiple clients open at once [13:02]
Schadenfreude I can pretend to be pirate [13:02]
pirateat40 though routing it through TOR would've made for ultimate trolling [13:02]
Schadenfreude [13:03]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 12 @ 0.7894 = 9.4728 BTC [+] [13:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.01 = 0.4 BTC [-] [13:18]
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jurov .. or by burning some bitches in sacrifice, lol [13:38]
jurov brb [13:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] [13:47]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: mpex.co is being ddoses [14:04]
thestringpuller ddosed* [14:04]
mircea_popescu yes. [14:05]
mircea_popescu quite a chunk too. [14:05]
thestringpuller i still can't resolve the dns [14:08]
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thestringpuller do you have access to your name servers? [14:12]
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thestringpuller mr. popescu [14:13]
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Schadenfreude Yep, can't open the site [14:14]
thestringpuller that also means no one can trade on mpex lol [14:15]
thestringpuller unless it's just a dns attack [14:15]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you need to cut the line until the botnet stops requesting a dns request [14:19]
mircea_popescu i have access to everything [14:19]
mircea_popescu but we're doing about 38gb atm so... heh [14:19]
thestringpuller 38gb per request? [14:21]
thestringpuller looks like mpex only weakness is a ddos attack' [14:21]
mircea_popescu no, per second [14:23]
mircea_popescu everyone's weakness is a ddos attack. [14:23]
thestringpuller well not really... [14:24]
thestringpuller distribute the service accross multiple servers... [14:24]
mircea_popescu heh. [14:24]
mircea_popescu and trust security to a small majority of them ? [14:25]
thestringpuller either that or have a red phone to your isp to pull a kill switch on the bad requests [14:26]
mircea_popescu i do. [14:27]
mircea_popescu it's not as easy as all that. [14:27]
thestringpuller just blame mpoe-pr [14:27]
thestringpuller she made someone mad [14:29]
thestringpuller boom ddos [14:29]
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thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [14:30]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: ;;ticker [14:30]
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thestringpuller so when do you expect mpex will be back up mr. popescu? [14:42]
mircea_popescu working on an actually pretty obnoxiously clever solution [14:47]
mircea_popescu won't be long. [14:48]
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Rothgar http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co [14:50]
kakobrekla ddos [14:51]
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mircea_popescu http://mpex.host56.com/ [15:06]
mircea_popescu you can use that temporarily [15:06]
mircea_popescu i will be building and releasing a huge list of free hosts for mpex [15:06]
kakobrekla yay! [15:06]
mircea_popescu it's 100% safe in the sense that gpg is gpg. [15:06]
mircea_popescu and well... make taking mpex down way more difficult. [15:06]
mircea_popescu the one disadvantage is all the cruft freehosts add to the page, so pympex will need a few cosmetic changes [15:07]
mircea_popescu by hand process was tested and works. [15:07]
mircea_popescu also main sites will be coming online within hours. [15:07]
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Ukto mircea_popescu: setup a vm or something somewhere. amazon.. put it behind cloudflare [15:25]
Ukto as a backup location [15:25]
Ukto and be done with it [15:25]
mircea_popescu nah. [15:25]
mircea_popescu i will just make one fucking trillion free host proxies. [15:25]
Ukto -_-;;; [15:25]
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kakobrekla i thought mp was alergic on cloudflare [15:26]
mircea_popescu lol [15:26]
Bugpowder Also, have the resolved bitbets from last night been paid out? For example http://bitbet.us/bet/51/nfl-playoffs-new-england-patriots-over-houston/ There is an output link, but no coins back in my wallet. [15:27]
kakobrekla scam [15:27]
kakobrekla Bugpowder, mircea will explain it for ya [15:28]
Bugpowder ok [15:29]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder payouts happen in 48 hours tops. [15:31]
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mircea_popescu ideally instant but it's not automatic so dun pannic. [15:32]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/ also back online. [15:33]
mircea_popescu theoretically this makes it a lot stronger [15:33]
mircea_popescu we see. [15:33]
mircea_popescu anyone selling hosting services here btw ? [15:34]
Bugpowder Just trying to understand the process, and what resolved vs. closed me. Resolved not linked to payout? [15:34]
mircea_popescu closed means no more bets are accepted. [15:35]
mircea_popescu resolved means one of the two sides was selected. payments to winning side are due and being processed [15:36]
mircea_popescu because of security procedures in place this processing may take a (short) interval. [15:36]
mircea_popescu srsly, nobody is selling hosting ?! [15:55]
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Schadenfreude Namworld and Neotrix spring to mind [15:55]
Schadenfreude Neotrix is affiliated with Koddos, which apparently offers DDOS protection too [15:56]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [16:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.15003, Best ask: 14.22849, Bid-ask spread: 0.07846, Last trade: 14.15003, 24 hour volume: 27519.20464813, 24 hour low: 13.94896, 24 hour high: 14.30000, 24 hour vwap: 14.12675 [16:01]
mircea_popescu i don't want ddos protection at all. i want basically a tiny vm to run a php mpex proxy [16:01]
mircea_popescu eight lines [16:01]
jurov Luceo does hosting too [16:08]
Schadenfreude Try bitcointalk, somebody ought to accept BTC for some hosting [16:09]
mircea_popescu yeh. [16:11]
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jurov mircea, you did not restart twitter/assapi yet? and rss/json output scriptslike mktdepth.php hang [16:23]
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mircea_popescu i think you need a flushdns ? [16:27]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe [16:28]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065959 / 0.00066 (5069495 shares, 3,343.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065737 / 0.00066 (11476109 shares, 7,544.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.000635 / 0.00066 (46830971 shares, 29,737.79 BTC) [16:28]
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thestringpuller what was the temp mirror mircea_popescu ? [16:29]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.host56.com/ [16:29]
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mircea_popescu but you can use mpex.co etc [16:29]
thestringpuller i wonder who ddosed you [16:32]
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mircea_popescu the sec! [16:33]
thestringpuller offtopci mpex looks beautiful in links [16:35]
thestringpuller off topic* [16:35]
mircea_popescu :p [16:36]
thestringpuller I'm in class and my monitor is facing the teacher [16:36]
thestringpuller better than coinbr, you can't even log into it [16:39]
thestringpuller from links [16:40]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] [16:59]
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drug_motor http://tinysong.com/15wM1 [17:05]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 25 @ 0.7894 = 19.735 BTC [+] [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.7895 = 3.158 BTC [+] [17:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.799 = 2.397 BTC [+] [17:15]
JWU_42 not so sure about that stock [17:16]
JWU_42 with the whole USD to BTC conversion [17:18]
JWU_42 of profits to dividends [17:18]
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Schadenfreude Well, 1.3%/week made it suspicious in my eyes [17:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.475 = 6.65 BTC [-] [17:30]
kakobrekla 7 is much better. [17:30]
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mircea_popescu pigeons_ such bullshit. [17:34]
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jcpham hrm [17:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+] [17:43]
jcpham what's new pussycat [17:43]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [18:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [18:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [18:01]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [18:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [18:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [18:01]
jurov and now we know mircea's ip addy. [18:02]
mircea_popescu lol you had it for years [18:02]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell bugpowder the transactions in question had been sent ~15 hours ago. they failed to propagate for some reason tho. all should be well nao [18:05]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:05]
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gigavps https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1453630#msg1453630 [18:10]
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thestringpuller what pressing issues jurov? [18:12]
jurov things i had no time to do till now [18:13]
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jurov like actual affiliate credit payouts :/ [18:13]
jurov some ppl can expect a nice little surprise later today [18:14]
thestringpuller !ticker S.MPOE [18:15]
assbot Provide exchange and ticker. [18:15]
thestringpuller !ticker m S.MPOE [18:15]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065956 / 0.00066 (5074495 shares, 3,346.98 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065738 / 0.00066 (11455209 shares, 7,530.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.000635 / 0.00066 (46751688 shares, 29,687.66 BTC) [18:15]
Korbman gigavps: how fast will you be hashing once gigamining is all set up with ASICs? [18:15]
gigavps as fast as humanly possible [18:16]
gigavps all of the pieces are in place [18:16]
jcpham guess who is on the phone with mastercard [18:17]
jcpham guess who had 3 bASIC ordered [18:17]
gigavps jcpham? [18:17]
jcpham me! [18:17]
Korbman lol that's not a number ;) [18:17]
mircea_popescu no faith in azns huh [18:18]
gigavps Korbman any gigaminer that signs the new contract for Teramining will be able to be privy to all information regarding VPS' strategies [18:18]
gigavps because there is a NDA included in the contract [18:18]
jcpham i'm sortof scared though [18:19]
jcpham because i'm talking to paypal because it's a paypal mastercard [18:19]
Korbman Ha, I figured I'd ask anyway [18:20]
* jcpham buys all hardware with credit card on purpose [18:20]
gigavps jcpham smart man [18:22]
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jcpham paypal asked what it is [18:26]
jcpham "experimental cryptographic hardware [18:26]
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jcpham that's was difficult to dance around [18:29]
jcpham never said the word bitcoin on chargeback dispute for btcfpga.com [18:30]
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pigeons so basic isn't doing striaght up refunds, you have to chargeback? [18:31]
jcpham i paid with cc [18:32]
jcpham fuck 'em [18:32]
jcpham http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mt-gox.asp?partner=rss-termofday#axzz2HxvCsB4v [18:32]
jcpham 6 months ago i would have let it play out [18:32]
pigeons yeah [18:32]
jcpham now i'm not patient enough for fail boats [18:32]
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gigavps lol jcpham fail boats [18:37]
jcpham gigavps gets the reference [18:37]
jcpham bitcoin is full shinking ship fail boats [18:37]
mircea_popescu We're sorry, but that is an invalid password. Valid passwords can contain only numbers, characters, and underscores. [18:38]
mircea_popescu in 2013 ;/ [18:38]
gigavps lol [18:39]
gigavps i had a site limit me to 16 characters [18:39]
gigavps because i use 30 [18:39]
mircea_popescu we are sorry but you seem to have used the letter t [18:39]
mircea_popescu we only allow vowels in our passwords [18:39]
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kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/N/FT/2yWZ9LdN/422257522727834424341135.jpg [19:10]
Korbman because an AR-15 fires a projectile, whereas a car, knife, or hammer does not [19:11]
kakobrekla all of the above can be a projectile [19:14]
kakobrekla or projectalised [19:14]
thestringpuller did Basic have a bitpay account? [19:14]
Korbman hahah I suppose that's true...though I'd say the effective range varies greatly [19:21]
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Schadenfreude I assume a semi-auto rifle is a lot more useful for self defence than any other object in that img [19:21]
jcpham 1 of Spartacus Blown Medium Realistic Glass Dildo, Clear [ASIN: B006U1Z6UW] [19:22]
jcpham ------------- Begin message ------------- [19:22]
jcpham Hello Josh, [19:22]
jcpham We are sorry to inform you that we no longer have this item in stock, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused [19:22]
jcpham that was going to be the centerpiece of the whole room [19:22]
Korbman bwahah [19:23]
Schadenfreude Isn't glass poor material for a dildo? [19:24]
Korbman just hope it doesn't break... [19:24]
jcpham shrug [19:24]
kakobrekla gotta be pyrex or some shit [19:24]
Schadenfreude Better than 1 guy 1 cup [19:24]
jcpham I was going to glue it to my neighbors house [19:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.48 = 3.36 BTC [+] [19:25]
jcpham or possibly put it at the top of a radio tower [19:25]
mircea_popescu tip of a radio tower [19:27]
thestringpuller feadal times [19:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.485 = 12.125 BTC [+] [19:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.485 = 11.155 BTC [+] [19:35]
thestringpuller trilema needs a search bar [19:35]
thestringpuller waaaah [19:35]
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jurov lol thestringpusher [19:37]
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mircea_popescu lol [19:42]
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gigavps did you guys see this -> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/announcements/394d1358117669-bfl-asic-status-prodn.jpg [19:53]
Korbman Yup, what about it? [19:54]
Korbman I admit I haven't really looked at it that much though [19:54]
gigavps can anyone tell me what the blue parts are, there are 16 of them [19:55]
kakobrekla umm im being asked for user/pass [20:02]
kakobrekla can you make a userless link? [20:02]
kakobrekla upload it to somewhere? [20:02]
gigavps http://i.imgur.com/tNLUo.jpg [20:02]
kakobrekla ty [20:02]
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mircea_popescu clock [20:16]
mircea_popescu buffets [20:16]
kakobrekla lol [20:17]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/a-little-bit-of-ddos/ [20:24]
mircea_popescu if anyone's curious [20:24]
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Schadenfreude Is it likely for the the BTC price to fall in the next two weeks? Not much, but to about $13 [20:38]
Schadenfreude I'm sitting on some cash which would best be put to work as BTC, but I'm afraid I'll lose 5-10% on a price drop [20:39]
Korbman You could hedge it a bit...buy 1/3 of your bitcoins now, another 1/3 next week, and 1/3 a week after that. [20:43]
mircea_popescu why does 5-10% make a difference ? [20:45]
Schadenfreude Well, buying now would be bad if the price dropped 5-10% again in the next time [20:46]
mircea_popescu if btc is going up to infinity, then infinity minus 5% is not materially different [20:47]
mircea_popescu if btc is not going up to infinity it's not worth buying in the first place. [20:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.489 = 7.824 BTC [+] [20:48]
Korbman that's why you buy both times...buying now at $14.20, then again at $14 would give you an average of $14.10 ...if it goes above that you make a profit [20:48]
Korbman it's just trying to figure out when it's going to go up that's the hard part [20:48]
mircea_popescu my first btc i bought at 15. [20:48]
Korbman same [20:48]
mircea_popescu then it was 2. [20:49]
mircea_popescu well... i bought more. [20:49]
Schadenfreude Better than buying at 35, I guess [20:49]
mircea_popescu someone who spent 35k to buy 1k btc at 35 and kept them has 1k btc. [20:50]
Korbman I suppose it depends if you're looking for short term or long term gains [20:50]
mircea_popescu someone who bought 1k btc at .5 and invested it with pirate... [20:50]
Korbman ...early has 1k+(1.07^4 weeks) [20:51]
Korbman haha [20:51]
mircea_popescu indeed :D [20:51]
Schadenfreude And if somebody invested with pirate and got out in time... [20:51]
mircea_popescu how many weeks is that ? [20:51]
Korbman sorry, should read "*" not "+" [20:53]
Korbman and it's for 4 weeks...I figured a month would be fine [20:53]
Korbman 1310btc if you invested early with pirate [20:53]
mircea_popescu heh. [20:53]
Korbman and reinvested [20:53]
Korbman haha [20:53]
mircea_popescu if you bought s.mpoe early... it was like 2k satoshi. [20:54]
Schadenfreude mp, how many % of your money did you convert to BTC? Curious how confident you are with it [20:54]
Korbman !ticker m s.mpoe [20:54]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062772 / 0.00065962 / 0.00066 (5065195 shares, 3,341.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00062769 / 0.00065738 / 0.00066 (11455209 shares, 7,530.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00058738 / 0.00063503 / 0.00066 (46620168 shares, 29,605.34 BTC) [20:54]
mircea_popescu Schadenfreude not a large part. [20:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.48 = 10.08 BTC [-] [21:21]
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OgNasty https://nastyfans.org - Now open to new members. [21:28]
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mircea_popescu you need a better logo. [21:31]
topace and a working ssl cert :p [21:32]
OgNasty Thanks for the advice. A logo wasn't a big concern obviously and the ssl cert works fine, it just is private. ;) [21:32]
topace assbot isnt announcing mpex trades [21:33]
OgNasty Concerns were speed and functionality. :) [21:33]
gigavps lol, mircea_popescu is talking about design [21:35]
gigavps those who own 1998 looking websites should not cast stones! [21:36]
OgNasty gigavps I had a chuckle at that as well. [21:36]
mircea_popescu tbh i think the mpex logo is kinda snappy [21:36]
gigavps logo you say? [21:37]
smickles the M [21:37]
smickles it's a nice font [21:37]
gigavps please link this image [21:37]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ [21:37]
smickles mpex.co/favicon.ico [21:37]
mircea_popescu might take a reload [21:37]
jurov bigger: http://bitbet.us/media/images/ads/mpex-468x60.png [21:38]
thestringpuller | | 0.00451334 | 1`012 | [21:38]
thestringpuller |-----------+------------+----------| [21:38]
thestringpuller | 1`201 | 0.00450700 | | [21:38]
thestringpuller current spread [21:38]
mircea_popescu lol someone likes linx ? [21:38]
smickles jebus fuck, when did bitbet get an over 1kbtc bet going [21:39]
mircea_popescu it moves quickly. [21:39]
thestringpuller smickles: you return [21:39]
thestringpuller can we talk soon? [21:39]
smickles I guess it's nearly 1k anyway [21:39]
smickles thestringpuller: sure :) [21:39]
thestringpuller lets meey at 1900 utc [21:40]
smickles ah, so tomorrow? [21:41]
OgNasty Not sure what exactly assbot needs, but this list of seat transfers is available publicly... https://nastyfans.org/buys.csv [21:44]
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gigavps https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136499.0 [21:46]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: when will assbot get sales again? [21:46]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller prolly tomorrow. [21:47]
smickles mircea_popescu: ya know, i was coding an mpex android client for myself, I couldn't find which font that 'M' is [21:51]
mircea_popescu >D [21:51]
smickles i ended up using comic sans, 'cause it looks close [21:51]
mircea_popescu ahahaha asshat [21:51]
smickles it's not as wide tho [21:51]
mircea_popescu comic looks niothing like! [21:51]
smickles ;D [21:51]
smickles lets see, what did I actually use... [21:52]
jcpham wingdings [21:54]
smickles trebuchet MS [21:55]
mircea_popescu lol [21:56]
smickles woah, mpoebot is offline? [21:56]
smickles quick, someone give me a bunch of btc to pipe into my bot! [21:57]
mircea_popescu no, just can't get price signal. [21:57]
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mircea_popescu i mean she could, but meh. [21:57]
smickles you can't get a price signal? [21:57]
mircea_popescu im a little walled in. [21:57]
mircea_popescu o, you missed the day's events huh [21:57]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/a-little-bit-of-ddos/ [21:57]
smickles 0_o [21:57]
mircea_popescu "Late in 1993 I sold 10 million shares of Cap Cities at $63; at year-end 1994, the price was $85 1/4. (The difference is $222.5 million for those of you who wish to avoid the pain of calculating the damage yourself.) When we purchased the stock at $17.25 in 1986, I told you that I had previously sold our Cap Cities holdings at $4.30 per share during 1978-80, and added that I was at a loss to explain my earlier behavior [22:01]
mircea_popescu ." [22:01]
smickles "One bot, for instance, asked no less than 720 times for the same order to be cancelled, because it wasn’t getting the one response it was expecting." um... [22:01]
mircea_popescu a-ha [22:02]
smickles would that happen to be order 5228684 [22:03]
smickles >_> [22:04]
smickles <_< [22:04]
mircea_popescu :p [22:05]
smickles I told you that I had some 'optimization' to do [22:08]
jurov particularly, inserting sleep statements. [22:09]
smickles hey, ther's a sleep statement [22:10]
smickles it's just something like half a second currently [22:10]
jurov lol...examining the situation every 10-20s is good enough [22:10]
jurov i tell you, at least some of these ninjas who issued orders mid-BBET-IPO actually did it via coinbr [22:13]
jurov and even for that it wasn;t necessary to hit it every half second [22:13]
mircea_popescu actually i think next ipo in that style will be +3 seconds rather than +! [22:15]
mircea_popescu When Richard Branson, the wealthy owner of Virgin Atlantic [22:19]
mircea_popescu Airways, was asked how to become a millionaire, he had a quick [22:19]
mircea_popescu answer: "There's really nothing to it. Start as a billionaire and then [22:19]
mircea_popescu buy an airline." [22:19]
topace lol [22:21]
Namworld marvelous strategy [22:21]
Namworld why didn't I think of that? [22:21]
mircea_popescu obviously it's not for you. [22:21]
mircea_popescu this be for smart people. [22:22]
Korbman lol [22:22]
smickles "Well, I'll tell you one thing. Having a kid ended my addiction to being a recreational asswipe and made me seriously consider stopping that professionally." [22:30]
mircea_popescu lol [22:31]
kakobrekla that bfl core pic is not for flip-chip design but for wirebond [22:32]
mircea_popescu pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133819.0 [22:35]
smickles EskimoBob: actually, I just made it up [22:35]
smickles I thought it sounded better as an unattributed quote [22:35]
smickles clearly, i'm a literary genious because it brought an excellent image to your mind [22:36]
kakobrekla ;> [22:36]
mircea_popescu also because you can speal. [22:36]
smickles :o [22:37]
mircea_popescu >D [22:37]
jcpham anything new and awesome happening on the bitcointalk forums? [22:37]
jcpham i'm so out of touch... [22:37]
smickles EskimoBob: well, i meant from an artistic point of view [22:37]
mircea_popescu jcpham inaba proposed [22:38]
mircea_popescu to usagi. [22:38]
smickles woah [22:38]
jcpham sweet [22:38]
smickles ;;ticker [22:38]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.25004, Best ask: 14.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03996, Last trade: 14.25004, 24 hour volume: 22752.84667883, 24 hour low: 14.06541, 24 hour high: 14.34600, 24 hour vwap: 14.22608 [22:39]
jcpham i hope someone took pictures/sideway video [22:39]
jcpham nothink like portrait-video [22:39]
jcpham *nothing [22:39]
mircea_popescu lol [22:40]
mircea_popescu i like portrait video. it's like .. it gives the art depth man [22:40]
mircea_popescu "Dear Accusation Scam Forum Connoisseurs;" [22:40]
jcpham my keyboarding is fail [22:40]
smickles ++gud [22:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [-] [22:52]
smickles jurov: "Does it mean that, for example pyMPEx will come bundled with fall back list of proxies to send requests to in case of mpex.co is unreachable?" I could do that if you wanted [23:05]
smickles i was also thinking of adding the option to specify a keyring to use [23:05]
smickles also, you could do it [23:06]
smickles ;p [23:06]
jurov i know, i want to finish at least something of this i have here first [23:06]
jurov just realized that i added file logging of every command and decrypted output for future reference.. [23:09]
jurov very useful, but never pushed that, shame on me [23:09]
smickles heh, same here, but i've done it in another module [23:10]
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Dishwasha This may sound like a naive question, but how would a person go about becoming a bitcoin exchange? Particularly to only process bitcoin transfers? [23:31]
Dishwasha Is the idea to create a network with 6+ other exchanges and submit transaction to them and once at least 6 are confirmed the transaction is complete? [23:33]
Namworld only process bitcoin transfers? Everyone can already transfer bitcoins =/ [23:33]
Namworld No, bitcoins don't work like that. [23:33]
Dishwasha Namworld: But the idea would be that I want my service to receive the transaction confirmation as quickly as possible. [23:34]
FabianB Dishwasha: bitcoin is peer2peer [23:34]
Dishwasha Yeah, I get that. But there's no reason why you can't control which peers you communicate with. [23:34]
Namworld But which peers you communicate with doesn't change anything. [23:35]
Namworld Unless they form a closed network willingly. [23:35]
Dishwasha But it can change how quickly a transaction takes to process. [23:35]
Dishwasha Namworld: Yes, you can pay for better bandwidth, etc. [23:35]
Namworld But then they're excluded from the bitcoin system. [23:35]
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