Forum logs for 13 Jan 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.msg1450248#msg1450248 [00:00]
mircea_popescu the girl at her finest. [00:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 97 @ 0.00460688 = 0.4469 BTC [-] [00:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 847 @ 0.00458667 = 3.8849 BTC [-] [00:01]
jurov It is purely internal, to wit, the fact that you are worthless as a human being, have no point in this world and your opinions do not matter. [00:03]
jurov same old shit [00:03]
jurov i mean, the rest of reply is fine, i like mpoe-pr. but i don't see any useful purpose to such statements [00:04]
mircea_popescu i think she may just be evil. [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1817 @ 0.00458667 = 8.334 BTC [-] [00:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 83 @ 0.00458437 = 0.3805 BTC [-] [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4167 @ 0.00462102 = 19.2558 BTC [+] [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00457025 = 1.3711 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.00453297 = 0.8567 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.0045328 = 6.3459 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00453124 = 5.4375 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 611 @ 0.0045308 = 2.7683 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00462102 = 5.5452 BTC [+] [00:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00462102 = 3.4658 BTC [+] [00:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00462102 = 1.3863 BTC [+] [00:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.3299 = 1.6495 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33 = 0.99 BTC [+] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00455423 = 1.4027 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 342 @ 0.00453081 = 1.5495 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-] [00:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 658 @ 0.00453081 = 2.9813 BTC [-] [00:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.0045308 = 0.8563 BTC [-] [00:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 653 @ 0.00453006 = 2.9581 BTC [-] [00:57]
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Bugpowder buyers are still overbidding one another in the S.BBET post-IPO period. Now 100001 bit [01:10]
Bugpowder bid [01:10]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.bbet [01:12]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (148 shares, 0.30 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00068004 / 0.0035 (1991241 shares, 1,354.13 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00068004 / 0.0035 (1991241 shares, 1,354.13 BTC) [01:12]
mircea_popescu !ticker h sdice [01:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.48 / 0.48000000 (64 shares, 30.72000000 BTC), 7D: 0.47500000 / 0.48099029 / 0.50999999 (1853 shares, 891.27499998 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.44956487 / 0.62000000 (3137 shares, 1410.28499998 BTC) [01:12]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu are you in Cluj? [01:13]
mircea_popescu nah [01:13]
mircea_popescu timisoara. [01:13]
mircea_popescu why ? [01:13]
Bugpowder Trying to get some real estate data for an idea I'm working on... looked up the founder of property shark.com and he is now in Cluj [01:13]
Bugpowder of all places [01:13]
mircea_popescu hehe. [01:14]
mircea_popescu i was born there. [01:14]
Bugpowder http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=19738536&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=St0M&locale=en_US&srchid=004655ad-5487-4039-9a81-84070c446498-0&srchindex=7&srchtotal=80&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Matthew_Haines_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link [01:14]
Bugpowder ugh [01:14]
Bugpowder ugly link [01:14]
kakobrekla time one times one times two times one [01:15]
mircea_popescu cluj is a 500k pop town [01:15]
mircea_popescu and i don't have a linkedin acct. [01:15]
Bugpowder aiight [01:17]
mircea_popescu anyway, romania real estate is fucked, whatever he asks for offer half. [01:17]
dub neat, ff has blocked java? [01:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 431 @ 0.00457266 = 1.9708 BTC [+] [01:29]
Bugpowder heh [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 297 @ 0.00453006 = 1.3454 BTC [-] [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00452995 = 0.1087 BTC [-] [01:29]
Bugpowder no I'm thinking of doing price optimization for US luxury RE [01:29]
Bugpowder I think we can develop an algorithm that destroys zillow [01:30]
Bugpowder which is a 1BB company [01:30]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what's with the bot [01:31]
mircea_popescu which ? [01:31]
thestringpuller MPOE [01:31]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder if you do that i'll list you. [01:32]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller be moar speciffix. [01:32]
Bugpowder heh [01:32]
thestringpuller Why does no one use monte carlo... [01:33]
thestringpuller lack of computing power? [01:33]
Bugpowder If it works, I'm sure many people will want to [01:33]
Bugpowder LOL [01:33]
Bugpowder thestringpuller [01:33]
Bugpowder monte carlo does not take much power dude [01:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1476 @ 0.00452995 = 6.6862 BTC [-] [01:34]
Bugpowder for some bitcoin options [01:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00452938 = 5.6617 BTC [-] [01:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 174 @ 0.0045293 = 0.7881 BTC [-] [01:34]
mircea_popescu ya but mine is teh best :D [01:34]
thestringpuller then why not take larger samples [01:34]
Bugpowder huh? [01:34]
Bugpowder larger samples? [01:34]
mircea_popescu ppl use plenty of mc on sd [01:34]
thestringpuller S.DICE? [01:35]
thestringpuller Bugpowder: price paths* [01:35]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu, if your exchange has the capital to support a $1BB market cap, then we can talk [01:35]
Bugpowder also [01:35]
Bugpowder when I have something more than a napkin sketch [01:35]
Bugpowder and a few team members [01:35]
mircea_popescu pfff, fuck that shit, you don't want 1 bn fiats [01:36]
mircea_popescu you want a good chunk of btc. [01:36]
Bugpowder I want $10MM in my bank account [01:37]
mircea_popescu that's trivial. [01:37]
Bugpowder I'll convert some to coins [01:37]
mircea_popescu let me explain how this is gonna work [01:38]
mircea_popescu by this time next year mpex will have many times the total BTC M3 in mkt cap [01:38]
mircea_popescu and a good chunk of btc trade to fiat will be winding and unwinding of mpex positions [01:39]
thestringpuller BTC has M3 now [01:39]
mircea_popescu with s.mpoe acting as a sort of bitcoin federal reserve notes [01:39]
mircea_popescu (inelastic commodity overpriced through reservation demand) [01:39]
mircea_popescu yes thestringpuller . nominal 21mn, actualised like 12. [01:39]
thestringpuller i guess the year 2100 is far away for many of us [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 726 @ 0.0045293 = 3.2883 BTC [-] [01:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00452833 = 4.7547 BTC [-] [01:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00452616 = 4.0735 BTC [-] [01:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 424 @ 0.0045252 = 1.9187 BTC [-] [01:48]
Bugpowder !ticker m s.dice [01:48]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0045252 / 0.0045811 / 0.00470807 (166931 shares, 764.73 BTC), 7D: 0.00430002 / 0.00467389 / 0.0048 (1865198 shares, 8,717.74 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00349631 / 0.0048 (14501819 shares, 50,702.91 BTC) [01:48]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [01:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.19002, Best ask: 14.23699, Bid-ask spread: 0.04697, Last trade: 14.19002, 24 hour volume: 26935.14538155, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16725 [01:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00457307 = 6.8596 BTC [+] [01:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00457307 = 0.2058 BTC [+] [01:58]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: 15:39 < mircea_popescu> with s.mpoe acting as a sort of bitcoin federal reserve notes <-- careful making statements like that, unless you are deliberately trying to make a target of yourself. [02:01]
midnightmagic in which case, carry on. :) [02:01]
mircea_popescu lol [02:01]
mircea_popescu in truth, i'm a better target than most btc people, someone will have to be a target for the common good, what am i to do ? [02:01]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: "TIL since 1950, every US shooting which has killed three or more people (except for the Congresswoman Gifford shooting) has taken place in areas where citizens are not allowed to carry guns." [02:06]
mircea_popescu myeah. [02:07]
mircea_popescu and the congresswoman shooting was so clearly a statal political assasination it bleeds. [02:07]
thestringpuller heh [02:07]
mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Failed-states-index-2011.png [02:12]
mircea_popescu til : according to sillypedia, the us and canada both are failed states. [02:12]
mircea_popescu (to some degree) [02:12]
mircea_popescu and so is everywhere else [02:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00462102 = 6.7005 BTC [+] [02:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 316 @ 0.00461956 = 1.4598 BTC [-] [02:26]
kakobrekla >offtopic - i am curious though how mpex has killed off the stupid bullshit prices of mining 'stocks' 'bonds' whatever you wanna callem when mpex primarily has its own asset, two gambling assets, and hosting company, and no miners? again, nothing aginst the type/quality/number of assets on mpex, just comparing types.. are you meaning overall btc price adjustments? i think the impressive [02:33]
kakobrekla pricing for stocks issued on mpex have done some pretty neat things esp. for each other, just not sure how it effects other types of 'assets' on other markets. not trying to be rude, just want your thoughts on it in a conversely manner. [02:33]
kakobrekla by effectivley valueing them zero. [02:34]
kakobrekla :D [02:34]
dub using IE like a boss [02:35]
Bugpowder kakobrekla link? [02:36]
Bugpowder I feel like making a little graphic for people [02:37]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.msg1450491#msg1450491 [02:37]
Bugpowder there is no embedded graphics on the forum right? [02:37]
kakobrekla pics allowed [02:37]
kakobrekla at least they were [02:38]
Bugpowder oh [02:38]
Bugpowder cool [02:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-] [02:42]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla i tihnk you have it [02:48]
mircea_popescu how does a cinema opening up run the old cafe's out of business ? well... cause the kids go to the cinema instead. [02:49]
mircea_popescu presto. [02:49]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i rtell you this much, if you make a whatever killer and don't list it i'll be heartbroken [02:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 176 @ 0.0045252 = 0.7964 BTC [-] [02:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 224 @ 0.00452444 = 1.0135 BTC [-] [02:57]
Bugpowder Mission accomplished https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135952.msg1450526#msg1450526 [02:59]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu If my thing works, it will probably be acquired before it can go public. Think mint.com. 3 years after it was founded, Intuit bought it for $170MM [02:59]
Bugpowder holy fucking shit [03:00]
Bugpowder Joe Flacco [03:00]
Bugpowder hail mary. 55 yards in the air [03:00]
Bugpowder Baltimore is definitley going to cover now [03:01]
Bugpowder and they might win [03:01]
mircea_popescu :D [03:01]
thestringpuller Bugpowder: are you making charts? [03:03]
Bugpowder heh [03:03]
Bugpowder just for fun [03:03]
Bugpowder Flacco threw that 60 yeards in the air, in 0F weather. [03:04]
Bugpowder I don't think anyone thought he could throw the ball so far [03:04]
thestringpuller mint.com [03:04]
thestringpuller lol [03:04]
Bugpowder lol? [03:04]
thestringpuller the quiken people bought them? [03:04]
Bugpowder do you use it? [03:04]
Bugpowder yeah [03:04]
Bugpowder they felt threatened [03:05]
thestringpuller I used to use them because they have awesome charts. [03:05]
thestringpuller I want to make my own chart API like they have. [03:05]
Bugpowder why not use lightbox [03:05]
Bugpowder zillow uses lightbox [03:06]
kakobrekla expense tracker? [03:06]
kakobrekla or what [03:06]
Bugpowder finances tracker [03:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00455459 = 2.505 BTC [+] [03:06]
Bugpowder but SUPER easy to use [03:06]
Bugpowder automatically links to all your accounts [03:06]
thestringpuller Because I want charts not just for a webpage? [03:07]
Bugpowder oh [03:07]
Bugpowder I just use matlab for anything real [03:07]
Bugpowder R is good too [03:07]
Bugpowder and free [03:07]
Bugpowder Mint is awesome [03:07]
Bugpowder super easy and also very useful [03:07]
thestringpuller I just want the chart api [03:08]
Bugpowder and pretty good revenue model with targeted ads [03:08]
thestringpuller so I can push data in and have a pretty graphic come out the other end [03:08]
Bugpowder I dunno much about apis [03:08]
thestringpuller what about mouse brains? [03:08]
Bugpowder matplotlib for python is good [03:09]
mircea_popescu r is it. [03:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00452444 = 3.6196 BTC [-] [03:15]
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thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [03:15]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: ;;ticker [03:15]
thestringpuller SMICKLES [03:15]
thestringpuller WHERE ARE YOU! [03:15]
thestringpuller lol [03:15]
Bugpowder man S.DICE is getting pounded tonight [03:15]
mircea_popescu http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/reddit_co_founder_commits_suicide_AZPHGFSHzBRrOHbx2yGM9O [03:17]
Bugpowder yah [03:18]
Bugpowder first reported in The Tech [03:18]
Bugpowder http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html [03:19]
Bugpowder http://techblogs.mit.edu/news/2013/01/the-techs-coverage-of-aaron-swartz/ [03:19]
Bugpowder A big moment in MIT journalism. [03:20]
mircea_popescu if this won't sink the entire copyright thing i don't know what will. [03:20]
Bugpowder Its almost dead [03:20]
Bugpowder for science stuff [03:20]
Bugpowder Wellcome, HHMI, NIH are requiring everything be posted to open access server within 6 months of publication [03:21]
Bugpowder or no funding for you [03:21]
TradeFortress holy [03:21]
Ukto wow [03:22]
Ukto wtf [03:22]
mircea_popescu makes sense. [03:22]
TradeFortress is that on reddit? [03:22]
Bugpowder yeah [03:22]
Bugpowder FP [03:22]
TradeFortress I don't see it :3 [03:22]
TradeFortress Probably because I unsubb'd from a lot of the spammy ones [03:22]
Bugpowder it wuz there [03:22]
Bugpowder yeah [03:22]
Bugpowder I only see it if I'm not logged in [03:22]
Bugpowder i think its r/pics [03:23]
Ukto wait [03:24]
Ukto so he martyr'd himself [03:24]
Ukto dont take (younger?) people to fed court over downloading BOOKS [03:24]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-many-more-dead-kids-needed-to-prop-up-boring-industries-of-america-bottomline/ [03:24]
Ukto and thretening with years in prison and fines [03:24]
Ukto ;P [03:24]
Ukto mircea_popescu: from the topic i think were on the same page [03:25]
Ukto lol [03:25]
mircea_popescu yeah. [03:25]
Ukto you know, i write a program, and want to be paid for it, do ihave to right to put someone i prison for years because they wanted to use it? [03:25]
Ukto sure i want to get paid for my work.. but at what expense? [03:26]
Bugpowder JSTOR isn't paying the authors of the work [03:26]
Ukto the government killed him. with their inadequat copyright system [03:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16 @ 0.00455459 = 0.0729 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 484 @ 0.00459701 = 2.225 BTC [+] [03:27]
mircea_popescu what Bugpowder said [03:28]
mircea_popescu it has nothing to do with paying authors, this [03:28]
mircea_popescu it's simple extortion. [03:28]
mircea_popescu i wanna see terrorism charges against jstor now. [03:29]
mircea_popescu some asswipe can burn themselves with mcdo coffee and get a ton in civil [03:29]
Bugpowder most of these journals charge to publish in them [03:29]
Ukto mircea_popescu: actually i believe that they settled. they didnt "win" [03:30]
mircea_popescu i wanna see jstor hauled off to jail like, completely. charged with murder 1, let the judge decide. [03:30]
Ukto no precident was made. on the mcd coffee [03:30]
mircea_popescu how many people work for them ? a coupla hundred ? should make a nice trial. [03:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00452444 = 2.4884 BTC [-] [03:31]
thestringpuller ive done it [03:31]
thestringpuller automated transfer to bank [03:32]
thestringpuller woot i can spend btc on mcd coffee now [03:32]
Bugpowder There is some value that top journals like Nature provide, via good editorial staff, reviewers, etc, and its reasonable that they have the right to charge for access to the papers, for a time long enough to encourage revenue from the 'professionals' but short enough so that the public can access publicly funded research for free. [03:32]
mircea_popescu yeah. [03:33]
Bugpowder most of the shit on JSTOR is old though [03:33]
Bugpowder like I bet the mean age is 30 years old [03:33]
Bugpowder After 3-6 months, that shit should be public [03:34]
Bugpowder if your business model doesn't allow it, then let google do it for you [03:34]
Bugpowder and shut down your service [03:35]
mircea_popescu if your "business model" doesn't allow it you'ren ot in business [03:35]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [03:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27395, Best ask: 14.29500, Bid-ask spread: 0.02105, Last trade: 14.27395, 24 hour volume: 26689.26805920, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16793 [03:36]
Bugpowder So. What do you think the next trade of S.BBET will go off at? [03:42]
Bugpowder >150 or under? [03:42]
mircea_popescu mmm [03:42]
mircea_popescu but i mean... its easy to do either way lol [03:42]
mircea_popescu just sell/buy some [03:42]
Bugpowder this is why its not on bitbet [03:43]
mircea_popescu :p [03:43]
mircea_popescu i have no idea [03:43]
Bugpowder too easy to manipulate [03:43]
Bugpowder I'm just polling here [03:43]
Bugpowder duck [03:47]
Bugpowder fuck [03:47]
Bugpowder Dever loses [03:47]
Bugpowder Denver [03:47]
Bugpowder shit [03:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 731 @ 0.00452444 = 3.3074 BTC [-] [03:47]
Bugpowder odds were 2:9 [03:48]
mircea_popescu heh [03:49]
mircea_popescu “There are only two options to deal with the debt limit: Congress can pay its bills or it can fail to act and put the nation into default," Carney said. [03:49]
thestringpuller duck tales woohoo [03:50]
mircea_popescu fucking bullshit this [03:50]
mircea_popescu THEY ARE NOT CONGRESS' BILLS!!! [03:50]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [03:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.27391, Best ask: 14.27395, Bid-ask spread: 0.00004, Last trade: 14.27396, 24 hour volume: 26546.17593283, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16749 [03:50]
mircea_popescu "When congressional Republicans played politics with this issue last time, putting us at the edge of default, it was a blow to our economic recovery, causing our nation’s credit rating to be downgraded. The president and the American people won’t tolerate congressional Republicans holding the American economy hostage again simply so they can force disastrous cuts to Medicare and other programs the middle class dep [03:51]
mircea_popescu end on while protecting the wealthy. Congress needs to do its job.” [03:51]
mircea_popescu since when the fuck does the president "tolerate" congress [03:51]
mircea_popescu what the heck is going on in that failed state omg! [03:51]
Bugpowder All spending bills must originate in the house [03:52]
*hanbot* oh [03:52]
mircea_popescu i see massive upside for btc in 2013. [03:53]
Bugpowder who the fuck doesn't [03:54]
Bugpowder well [03:54]
Bugpowder a lot of people actually [03:54]
Bugpowder but really [03:54]
Bugpowder I just keep seeing my bitcoin investments increasing exponentially in $ terms [03:54]
Bugpowder Is good [03:54]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder back in like august i wrote a piece about "how do the jooz make money" [03:55]
mircea_popescu showing sometyhing like in april 1bn s.mpoe x 9k satoshi x 5 usd per btc x 3 ron / usd = x [03:56]
mircea_popescu and then in august 1bn x 27k satoshi x 11 usd/btc x 3.5 ron/ usd = many times x [03:56]
mircea_popescu meanwhile it has been further invalidated. [03:57]
kakobrekla https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1041.msg3093#msg3093 [04:00]
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Bugpowder what is the ron unit? [04:02]
smickles ;;ticker [04:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20001, Best ask: 14.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06999, Last trade: 14.20001, 24 hour volume: 26605.19759356, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16738 [04:02]
mircea_popescu romanian leu [04:04]
mircea_popescu Lukas met with Tom yesterday to discuss the transfer of ownership. We followed up that meeting with a request to meet in the evening so that we could provide a cash-out offer. He declined the meeting and let us know that we could meet today. [04:06]
mircea_popescu Today, he has not responded to any of our attempts to contact him. No one was at home, his was not at his office. At this time, Tom's whereabouts are unknown to us. [04:06]
mircea_popescu this sounds kinda bad. [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 5 @ 0.14775821 = 0.7388 BTC [+] [04:07]
Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU [04:12]
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Bugpowder With regard to BTC refunds, I have sent all refund requests to Tom for processing. I have also processed all credit card refund requests at this time. I can't guarantee that the funds were there to back these refunds - I have no way to know this, and Tom never confirmed having done the bank transfer. At this point, if you are thinking of sending me a refund request, I recommend you do a chargeback instead. [04:15]
Bugpowder I am impressed [04:17]
Azelphur bASIC? [04:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00455927 = 3.1915 BTC [+] [04:25]
Bugpowder total scam [04:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 35 @ 0.42 = 14.7 BTC [-] [04:33]
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kakobrekla zomgbbq https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136044.msg1450671;topicseen#msg1450671 [04:33]
kakobrekla shit keeps getting weirder [04:33]
Ukto what abou tit? [04:39]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder not a scam to start with, just some dumbass sering the bfl scam and thinking why not me [04:39]
mircea_popescu then full blown scam. [04:39]
Bugpowder I think we finally found an exchange that is uglier than MPEX [04:44]
mircea_popescu we ?! [04:44]
kakobrekla Bugpowder :DD [04:45]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [-] [05:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [+] [05:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0068 BTC [+] [05:10]
mircea_popescu Send the corresponding amount in uncolored bitcoins to 1FL8nGQzRF6j39566viJQ12KnYeBY9kurm [05:11]
mircea_popescu Notify us on notification11122@dudmail.com and include the address where you want to receive the colored coins. [05:11]
mircea_popescu this sounds promising. [05:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+] [05:11]
mircea_popescu seems it was over 15 [05:12]
Bugpowder ha! [05:16]
Bugpowder I continue to win [05:16]
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Bugpowder those are my shares [05:16]
kakobrekla what did you pay for em? [05:16]
Bugpowder average of .000652 [05:17]
Bugpowder but a range from .5-1.0 [05:17]
kakobrekla not bad [05:17]
Bugpowder I wish I got more [05:18]
Bugpowder nervous about regret selling at .002 [05:18]
mircea_popescu if the forum ppl hear about this buying 6 selling 20 they may have a stroke [05:20]
mircea_popescu Ive been in talks with members from the Bitcoin community and thank God [05:21]
mircea_popescu it Looks more like the Bitcoin community itself will be buying this company - not some un-known asian company [05:21]
mircea_popescu so fucking ridiculous [05:21]
mircea_popescu HE CALLS IT SOME UNKNOWN AZN COMPANY [05:21]
mircea_popescu the ppl he brings in to buyout. [05:21]
Bugpowder the best part is... [05:21]
mircea_popescu the mob running las vegas in the 70s is nowherhe near as incompetent [05:21]
mircea_popescu as "the people" running bitcoin. [05:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00455927 = 2.5076 BTC [+] [05:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 639 @ 0.00459701 = 2.9375 BTC [+] [05:22]
Bugpowder is buzzdave part of btcFPGA? [05:22]
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Bugpowder or part of the buying group [05:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+] [05:22]
mircea_popescu he's part of the people getting fucked in the ass (tm) [05:22]
mircea_popescu this is how these scams unwind, pirate ruined a bunch of names which hung on to him for no reason [05:23]
mircea_popescu other than the sickly desire of attention social media builds in kids. [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 127 @ 0.00459701 = 0.5838 BTC [+] [05:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 899 @ 0.00462102 = 4.1543 BTC [+] [05:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-] [05:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.4009 = 4.009 BTC [-] [05:27]
mircea_popescu These new people have a few things the project can really use: active involvement with Bitcoin, technical expertise, connections, experience, money. No its not any of our competitors. You will learn who the players are only when the deal is done and everything is nailed down. [05:32]
mircea_popescu Due to the delay with chip fab, the new team believes we *must* provide proof-of-tech. Tomorrow I will post up a hard date by which we will deliver a video showing a hashing unit. This will not be a production unit, but it will show that the hard work has been done (the chips work, the PCB design is complete). [05:32]
mircea_popescu so tom is walking away but the chips work abnd the pcb is complete. [05:32]
mircea_popescu lordy. [05:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00452787 = 5.4334 BTC [-] [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1577 @ 0.00462102 = 7.2873 BTC [+] [05:40]
Ukto mircea_popescu: well it makes sense. [05:40]
Ukto you work on a project [05:40]
Ukto get it to a succesful place, then dissapear. [05:41]
Ukto drop he ball [05:41]
Ukto :P [05:41]
mircea_popescu ya im sure people do this all the time [05:42]
mircea_popescu because stress and click buffers. [05:42]
mircea_popescu just like bfl, the chips are ready no wait we're redoing the design [05:43]
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Ukto although.. even if bfl was a long con.. by now ppl have probably stopped putting money in I would think [05:53]
Ukto showing up with a box of fans and nothing at a convention.. at least it shows they are not just taking and runing and afraid of saying 'i havenothing to show at the moment' and scaring off possible investors [05:54]
Ukto from one point of view [05:54]
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mircea_popescu pirate went to vegas [05:54]
kakobrekla haha some fun bets on bitbet just poped [05:54]
mircea_popescu there's an exhibitionist angle in most scammers. [05:55]
Ukto hmm that is true [05:55]
mircea_popescu in fact, i think the girl's june date is just about like she said september about pirate at the outer edge [05:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3318 @ 0.00462102 = 15.3325 BTC [+] [05:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 888 @ 0.00462103 = 4.1035 BTC [+] [05:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00462556 = 8.5573 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2950 @ 0.00462874 = 13.6548 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00463215 = 3.2425 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00463678 = 7.187 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1276 @ 0.0046371 = 5.9169 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0046373 = 13.4482 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00464814 = 15.8037 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00465244 = 1.3957 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00465486 = 6.7495 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00466218 = 3.0304 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00466792 = 5.8349 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00466833 = 4.4349 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00467187 = 6.7742 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00467874 = 4.6787 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 348 @ 0.00468482 = 1.6303 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00468761 = 1.4063 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00469235 = 3.05 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00469341 = 2.5814 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00470507 = 8.2339 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1144 @ 0.00470807 = 5.386 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00471703 = 1.8868 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00472245 = 5.9031 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00472495 = 6.1424 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00472684 = 8.0356 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1220 @ 0.00472805 = 5.7682 BTC [+] [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 919 @ 0.00472828 = 4.3453 BTC [+] [05:56]
Bugpowder ROLL TIDE [05:59]
Bugpowder people need to learn to fund the fucking proposal [06:00]
Bugpowder otherwise whats the point [06:00]
Bugpowder !ticker s.dice [06:01]
assbot Provide exchange and ticker. [06:01]
Bugpowder !ticker m s.dice [06:01]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00452444 / 0.00459854 / 0.00472828 (192194 shares, 883.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00430002 / 0.00467394 / 0.0048 (1909355 shares, 8,924.22 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00350031 / 0.0048 (14545216 shares, 50,912.81 BTC) [06:01]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder to fund wha ? [06:02]
Bugpowder "some fun bets on bitbet just poped" [06:03]
Bugpowder like [06:03]
Bugpowder come on dude [06:03]
Bugpowder dudes [06:03]
Bugpowder If you have a sharp time decay [06:03]
Bugpowder and want to make money [06:03]
Bugpowder put 5 down on both sides and collect bank [06:03]
Bugpowder jeeze [06:03]
Bugpowder at least for these microbets [06:04]
Bugpowder that are pure chance [06:04]
Bugpowder I guess I could do it myself [06:04]
Bugpowder !ticker m s.bbet [06:05]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (2148 shares, 4.30 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00068136 / 0.0035 (1993241 shares, 1,358.13 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00068136 / 0.0035 (1993241 shares, 1,358.13 BTC) [06:05]
mircea_popescu i guess for many peoples it's an income thing, propose a bet, get it accepted, make some .btc [06:05]
Bugpowder how much do you make by doing that? [06:05]
mircea_popescu well on average about .05 [06:06]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [06:08]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.17001, Best ask: 14.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 14.17001, 24 hour volume: 24989.69632575, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.33800, 24 hour vwap: 14.16527 [06:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00469469 = 2.8168 BTC [-] [06:12]
kakobrekla Kluge cant afford a can of air. [06:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00452444 = 2.2622 BTC [-] [06:23]
mircea_popescu sorry ? [06:24]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136204.msg1450835;topicseen#msg1450835 [06:24]
kakobrekla > Can't afford a new can of air. [06:24]
kakobrekla gotta be some expencive shit i guess [06:24]
Diablo-D3 heh [06:25]
Diablo-D3 so basic blew up? [06:25]
Diablo-D3 kakobrekla: heh, ever since that new federal law, yes it is [06:25]
Diablo-D3 the anti-huffing law [06:25]
kakobrekla lol [06:25]
Diablo-D3 (even though you cant huff canned air) [06:25]
Diablo-D3 I used to get a six pack of canned air for 12 dollars [06:25]
Diablo-D3 now its 3 for 12 [06:25]
kakobrekla it it at least clean? [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00452444 = 9.7275 BTC [-] [06:26]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 yes. big time [06:26]
Diablo-D3 I quit buying canned air, I use an air compressor now [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1212 @ 0.00452444 = 5.4836 BTC [-] [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3788 @ 0.00452443 = 17.1385 BTC [-] [06:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.73 = 2.92 BTC [+] [06:27]
mircea_popescu i prefer canned screams [06:27]
mircea_popescu adds vibration effect. [06:27]
Diablo-D3 okay so [06:28]
Diablo-D3 if basic is out [06:28]
Diablo-D3 and bfl is a scam [06:28]
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Diablo-D3 and avalon wont be shipping until late feb [06:29]
Diablo-D3 asicminer wins by default? [06:29]
Ukto sounds like it [06:29]
mircea_popescu if they mine. [06:29]
mircea_popescu so far we have a list of 4-5 scams of which one blew and the motherlode is blowing [06:29]
kakobrekla asic miner will make lots of coin prolly [06:29]
kakobrekla most possibly [06:29]
kakobrekla of them asics [06:29]
kakobrekla but there are 2 more players [06:29]
kakobrekla not taking preorders [06:30]
Bugpowder I have seen no evidence that asicminer has working asices [06:30]
mircea_popescu they had some pix of a mishandled chip strip [06:31]
Bugpowder I saw that [06:31]
Bugpowder and some text in a forum post [06:31]
mircea_popescu well, they were supposed to be ready in a week 10 days ago [06:31]
mircea_popescu and i guess the sending prototypes to community was silently dropped [06:32]
mircea_popescu so... [06:32]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [06:32]
mircea_popescu who knows at this point. [06:32]
gribble Current Blocks: 216319 | Current Difficulty: 3249549.5844872 | Next Difficulty At Block: 217727 | Next Difficulty In: 1408 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2896792.17443539 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.8555786234 [06:32]
kakobrekla lol [06:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.476 BTC [+] [06:32]
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Bugpowder at this rate I might actually take the time to claim my gigamining shares [06:33]
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mircea_popescu Hi all! [06:33]
mircea_popescu Coinster.info is a new search engine, the world's first specifically for crypto-currencies like Bitcoin. However, giving users a search engine isn't the main goal. Coinster is meant to be a connection platform, with emphasis on connecting people locally to trade goods and services. [06:33]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [06:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0396 BTC [06:34]
mircea_popescu diff droppingwowzer. [06:34]
Bugpowder search for mpex on coinster [06:34]
Bugpowder nothing [06:34]
Bugpowder :O( [06:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0069 = 0.0621 BTC [-] [06:34]
kakobrekla whos mpex? [06:34]
mircea_popescu https://nastyfans.org/logo.jpg [06:35]
mircea_popescu lol @ Bugpowder graph [06:37]
mircea_popescu http://brainwindows.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mpexschematic.jpg [06:37]
Bugpowder I tried to make it as accurate as possible [06:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00452443 = 8.5964 BTC [-] [06:39]
Bugpowder San Francisco with the big win [06:40]
Bugpowder well [06:40]
Bugpowder I have probably officially lost my office NFL pool. [06:40]
Bugpowder hopefully I can make up for the losses with coin wins. [06:40]
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mircea_popescu hehe are you ahead in bets ? [06:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+] [06:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.476 = 2.38 BTC [+] [06:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00452443 = 1.3573 BTC [-] [06:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1012 @ 0.00452443 = 4.5787 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00452105 = 2.9387 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1693 @ 0.00451817 = 7.6493 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [06:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 44 @ 0.0068 = 0.2992 BTC [+] [07:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00456647 = 2.2924 BTC [+] [07:01]
Ukto speaking of jiggamining [07:05]
Ukto mircea_popescu: did you ever figure out the whole PT stuff for that? [07:05]
Ukto or just left it as it was for now? [07:05]
Ukto just curious [07:05]
mircea_popescu not much to figure out tbh [07:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 598 @ 0.00458615 = 2.7425 BTC [+] [07:12]
Ukto its still at the not claiming point right? [07:13]
Ukto or did you guys work that out [07:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.476 BTC [+] [07:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+] [07:20]
mircea_popescu still exactly where it was in like early dec or w/ee [07:21]
Ukto kk [07:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 602 @ 0.00456741 = 2.7496 BTC [-] [07:37]
mod6 how's it goin tonight -assets? [07:49]
mod6 :D [07:49]
mircea_popescu plenty of drama today [07:55]
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mod6 ya, saw some. [07:59]
Namworld really? What drama? [07:59]
Diablo-D3 well [07:59]
Diablo-D3 aaronsw committed suicide [07:59]
mod6 ya that [08:00]
Diablo-D3 and basic is apparently a scam [08:00]
mod6 ahh, yah right. [08:00]
mod6 and.. i even saw a post on btctalk from usagi! [08:01]
Diablo-D3 yeah hes been posting again [08:01]
mod6 heh [08:01]
Namworld How can you be sure he has? [08:02]
mod6 well, whomever it was posted it with usagi's account [08:02]
Namworld the other thing =/ [08:03]
Namworld and who is he? [08:04]
drug_motor http://tinysong.com/jjqC [08:07]
Namworld Also, what about basic? As for Usagi, I'm pretty unmoved. He started getting active again and paying some BTC on his stocks. That's at least some more I'll be getting back. [08:07]
mircea_popescu Namworld https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1041.msg3094#new [08:08]
Diablo-D3 heh [08:08]
Diablo-D3 well, sadly, DMC's dividend was paid to him [08:08]
Namworld eh [08:15]
mircea_popescu and bitbet past 750 [08:18]
mircea_popescu and check out the action on this baby http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ [08:20]
mod6 oh that one got some attention quick! [08:21]
mircea_popescu indeed. [08:23]
mod6 i was just reading about the btcfpga stuff. [08:23]
mircea_popescu sad huh [08:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1047 @ 0.00461927 = 4.8364 BTC [+] [08:25]
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mod6 ya.. i was wonderin if it would go the same as BFL [08:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3206 = 4.809 BTC [-] [08:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3205 = 4.8075 BTC [-] [08:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 35 @ 0.3204 = 11.214 BTC [-] [08:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 35 @ 0.3202 = 11.207 BTC [-] [08:28]
Diablo-D3 LOL [08:28]
Diablo-D3 DOWN IT GOES [08:28]
mod6 ya, there you have it i guess. [08:29]
Diablo-D3 its going down harder than... YOUR MOM. [08:29]
mircea_popescu o ity's actually listed ?! [08:29]
mircea_popescu !ticker b basic [08:29]
assbot Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure. [08:29]
mircea_popescu !ticker b basic-mining [08:29]
assbot I cooked, I cleaned, and I sewed, and I have a right to get-- [08:29]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc basic-mining [08:29]
mod6 haha [08:29]
assbot [BTCT:BASIC-MINING] 1D: 0.3202 / 0.3218 / 0.33 (117 shares, 37.6 BTC), 7D: 0.3105 / 0.33 / 0.33 (379 shares, 123.8 BTC), 30D: 0.3105 / 0.33 / 0.33 (1163 shares, 382.4 BTC) [08:29]
mircea_popescu is this actually btcfpga stock ?! [08:30]
mod6 oh wow [08:30]
mircea_popescu 400 btc volume in a month ?! [08:30]
thestringpuller when is bitvps gonna get their shit together [08:31]
thestringpuller !ticker m S.BVPS [08:32]
assbot [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00200003 / 0.0033336 / 0.0067 (13238 shares, 44.13 BTC) [08:32]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: preorder shit [08:32]
mod6 Namworld says he's gonna do it. [08:32]
Diablo-D3 do what [08:32]
mod6 that was to thestringpuller's q [08:32]
mod6 run bitvps [08:32]
mod6 and they have colored monthly statements going forward. [08:33]
mod6 so that helps [08:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00470763 = 4.0015 BTC [+] [08:34]
mod6 and iirc there are still >100 active vps' [08:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 3000 @ 0.002 = 6 BTC [+] [08:38]
thestringpuller mod6 lets talk [08:39]
mircea_popescu whoa nelly [08:42]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 253.84 / 254.98 [08:42]
gribble 0.995529061103 [08:42]
mircea_popescu tightest odds you've ever seen [08:42]
mod6 yeah, it really narrowed quick after that stock dump lol [08:43]
thestringpuller 253 to 254? [08:44]
thestringpuller icbit.se will shutdown lol [08:45]
thestringpuller ;;bc,diff [08:45]
gribble 3249549.5844872 [08:45]
thestringpuller Network Difficulty under 20 million for 2 months...isn't that like a futures? [08:46]
Namworld Indeed. But that goes with expenses. Seems like we'll have a lot of expenses in the following months. [08:47]
thestringpuller Monte Carlo Method vs. Black-Scholes Model [08:50]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller sort of like a future syeah [08:50]
mircea_popescu mod6 what stock dump ? [08:51]
mircea_popescu bfl isn;t listed anywhere is it ? [08:51]
mod6 oh no. my bad. [08:52]
mod6 sorry, got cornfused. [08:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0006458 = 4.9727 BTC [-] [09:00]
thestringpuller mpoe is gonna crasssssh when Smickles launches his bot [09:01]
mod6 hmm [09:06]
thestringpuller i kid I kid [09:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 641 @ 0.00470763 = 3.0176 BTC [+] [09:17]
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mod6 ok sweet. darn you 'nobootwait' flag! [09:25]
* mod6 shakes fist [09:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0069 BTC [-] [09:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+] [09:28]
mod6 ok nice, now i've got my new vols attached finally. [09:30]
mod6 /dev/xvdf 197G 188M 187G 1% /mnt/extVol [09:30]
mod6 kinda new to this AWS stuff [09:31]
mod6 :D [09:32]
mod6 time for a lunch break [09:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 859 @ 0.00462544 = 3.9733 BTC [-] [09:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00463298 = 6.4862 BTC [+] [09:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 73 @ 0.00464434 = 0.339 BTC [+] [09:49]
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*hanbot* hallo [10:21]
mod6 ;;ticker [10:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20001, Best ask: 14.26321, Bid-ask spread: 0.06320, Last trade: 14.20001, 24 hour volume: 17059.92244125, 24 hour low: 13.97500, 24 hour high: 14.31173, 24 hour vwap: 14.13523 [10:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00462763 = 1.8511 BTC [-] [10:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 670 @ 0.00063814 = 0.4276 BTC [-] [10:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.000631 = 0.4417 BTC [-] [10:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00063 = 4.6261 BTC [-] [10:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 327 @ 0.00464434 = 1.5187 BTC [+] [10:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-] [11:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] [11:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 479 @ 0.01 = 4.79 BTC [+] [11:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 21 @ 0.01 = 0.21 BTC [+] [11:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00472828 = 0.9457 BTC [+] [11:17]
Namworld BTC-BOND, always a nice choice [11:19]
Schadenfreude Figured it's the safest one - 0.03% no matter what and you're plausible [11:20]
Namworld [11:20]
Schadenfreude Unlike the guy from ESECURITYSABTC - 1.3% a week ontop of being afiliated with a company that hosts HYIP scams for a living [11:20]
Namworld It's not ridiculous if he funds servers with the funds... but I don't see why anyone would borrow at that rate. [11:21]
Schadenfreude With you... 10% a year, a borrower can live with that and it's above inflation for me, but 70%?! [11:22]
Namworld Well the server will save you a lot in monthly rent of server. [11:24]
Namworld Usually will save you more than the server cost within a year. [11:24]
Namworld But again, still very high... why would anyone borrow at those rates? [11:25]
Namworld If they can borrow for much cheaper... [11:25]
Namworld Just a lost of profits. [11:25]
Schadenfreude I emailed him, he replies from admin@koddos.com, company exists and operates, but those rates... [11:25]
Schadenfreude It's the main reason I haven't invested anything significant in him yet [11:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.00467921 = 4.085 BTC [-] [11:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 243 @ 0.00467684 = 1.1365 BTC [-] [11:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 57 @ 0.00472828 = 0.2695 BTC [+] [11:34]
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Schadenfreude Cofounder of reddit commited suicide [11:45]
TradeFortress yup. [11:46]
Schadenfreude And I'm trying to get to the bottom of the ESECURITYSABTC bond [11:46]
Schadenfreude If it proves to be legit, there are enough bonds left to invest, if not, it'll be hopefully gone [11:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 508 @ 0.00472828 = 2.402 BTC [+] [11:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 342 @ 0.00472867 = 1.6172 BTC [+] [11:49]
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Schadenfreude MPEX itself isn't that bad, its PR-chick is terrible at PR tho [11:51]
Namworld agreed [11:53]
Schadenfreude I mean MPEX is great for some corporate guy or banker to get into BTC, because that kind of setup is familiar to him [11:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00464027 = 3.0162 BTC [-] [11:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00464027 = 0.464 BTC [-] [12:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.0046402 = 5.8003 BTC [-] [12:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 358 @ 0.00472867 = 1.6929 BTC [+] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 592 @ 0.00472883 = 2.7995 BTC [+] [12:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 779 @ 0.0046402 = 3.6147 BTC [-] [12:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 78 @ 0.007 = 0.546 BTC [+] [12:37]
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FabianB_ Current weight: 78`758 ( from 100`000 to 90`000 ) <-- how can that be kakobrekla ? [12:46]
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mircea_popescu now that's an excellent question [12:50]
FabianB_ I guess it's a bug [12:54]
markedathome OOI whatever happened to the glbse prediction market? [12:56]
mircea_popescu FabianB_ looks that way. got top of the list placing. [12:57]
mircea_popescu markedathome whassat ? [12:57]
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markedathome https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77859.0 [12:58]
mircea_popescu i guess nothing. [13:03]
mircea_popescu The problem with prediction markets is the market maker. If it is automated like the one that is on the GLBSE prediction market now then it will eventually lose money. That model is only used by places that don't use real money. [13:03]
mircea_popescu maybe stochastic has a point. [13:04]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [22:24]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [22:24]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [22:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 184 @ 0.00474447 = 0.873 BTC [+] [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 748 @ 0.00474535 = 3.5495 BTC [+] [22:29]
Bugpowder thestringpuller It's not over yet... [22:32]
mircea_popescu wassup [22:35]
Bugpowder seattle coming back [22:36]
Bugpowder was 20-0 [22:36]
Bugpowder now 27-21 [22:36]
mircea_popescu eee [22:37]
Bugpowder pirateat40 showed up [22:37]
Bugpowder did not ident [22:37]
mircea_popescu lol [22:43]
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jurov yes, pirate...maybe it's that time of year again [22:47]
mircea_popescu someone should start a poll "Who do we hate more, Inaba or MPOE-PR" [22:49]
FabianB i think that pirateat40 had the same ip/isp as someone who just joined [22:52]
Bugpowder Schadenfredu [22:53]
Bugpowder yeah similar [22:53]
Bugpowder I don't have a log though [22:53]
thestringpuller Bugpowder, who has posession? [22:58]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is a grumpy old man who yells at kids to get off his yard [22:58]
FabianB 17:54 -!- pirateat40 [~m@178.115.249.183.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #bitcoin-assets [22:59]
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FabianB 17:56 < pirateat40> sup guise, anyone up for a lucrative investment? [22:59]
mircea_popescu FabianB it's a troll. [22:59]
FabianB i know [22:59]
FabianB a troll of Schadenfreude [22:59]
mircea_popescu lol [23:00]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: why have you not gotten into currency exchange? [23:02]
mircea_popescu same reason i haven't gotten into mining [23:02]
mircea_popescu no competitive advantage. [23:02]
FabianB maybe only if the RON were internationally widely used currency [23:05]
mircea_popescu the ron actually is pretty strong, as far as eu currencies go. [23:05]
mircea_popescu it isn't however the policy of the nbr to make it an intl reserve at all, and we're friends so, i wouldn't expose it in btc trade. [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 125 @ 0.002 = 0.25 BTC [+] [23:06]
FabianB it's probably not hard for romanians to send RON converted to EUR to one of the EUR exchanges, is it? [23:07]
mircea_popescu not at all. [23:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 40 @ 0.00635541 = 0.2542 BTC [+] [23:07]
FabianB so no need for a RON ex [23:07]
mircea_popescu not from that angle. [23:07]
mircea_popescu the us/eu people have however a need to buy ron [23:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40 @ 0.00063268 = 0.0253 BTC [+] [23:08]
mircea_popescu it's a tiny currency backed by a lot of gold and the world's best (currenly) nat'l bank governor. [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 52 @ 0.00472283 = 0.2456 BTC [-] [23:08]
FabianB i buy btc instead [23:09]
mircea_popescu also works. [23:09]
FabianB but probably interesting if eur/us want to do business in romania [23:09]
mircea_popescu interesting if eur/us wants money the eur/us can't steal [23:09]
mircea_popescu o i mean "freeze" [23:09]
FabianB romania never considered the euro? [23:11]
mircea_popescu it did. and rejected it. [23:11]
thestringpuller why does mining have no competitive advantage? [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 355 @ 0.00063268 = 0.2246 BTC [+] [23:11]
mircea_popescu were you asking me why mining doesn't happen or why i don;t do it ? [23:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 898 @ 0.00472283 = 4.2411 BTC [-] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 352 @ 0.00474535 = 1.6704 BTC [+] [23:16]
mircea_popescu jurov what did you pick in the end ? from mpoe-pr [23:18]
thestringpuller falcons win [23:18]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you said it has no competitive advantage could you elaborate? [23:19]
mircea_popescu i said I have no competitive advantage. [23:19]
thestringpuller wherefore? [23:20]
jurov mircea_popescu, something like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135552.msg1445540#msg1445540 [23:20]
mircea_popescu lol not bad. [23:20]
jurov but there's enough time, maybe she can make a little effort in meantime [23:21]
mircea_popescu o hey, you're going [23:21]
mircea_popescu send taaki our heartfeld compliments [23:21]
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dub there are two taakis presenting [23:21]
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jurov and i'm looking into something more succinct [23:22]
jurov *into->for [23:22]
mircea_popescu Omnia In Numeris [23:22]
mircea_popescu jurov just ftr, MPEx doesn't care if you buldgeon people into a pulp. [23:23]
kakobrekla youd seriousy go -pr over inaba? [23:25]
jurov someone should arrange a cagefight match. or mudfight. with full bitbet coverage. [23:26]
mircea_popescu http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/01/253-btc-3577-usd-bet-that-butterfly.html [23:28]
mircea_popescu the beauty of old news :D [23:28]
Diablo-D3 do people actually hate inaba? [23:28]
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jurov another contender: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1430599#msg1430599 [23:32]
Diablo-D3 I dont really hate anyone [23:33]
Diablo-D3 Im just confused at why they did what they did [23:33]
Diablo-D3 is it mental illness? [23:33]
dub he's an idiot [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00474535 = 0.4745 BTC [+] [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00474591 = 5.6951 BTC [+] [23:33]
Diablo-D3 yeah, but why intentionally give up so much money? [23:34]
Diablo-D3 same goes with nefario and the rest [23:34]
dub because idiot [23:34]
* Diablo-D3 shrugs [23:34]
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kakobrekla so fast http://i.imgur.com/fcma3.jpg [23:37]
kakobrekla also invisilbe [23:37]
kakobrekla ble [23:37]
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jurov in other news, i was being asked wrt usign coinbr to do mpex passthroughs on ltcglobal [23:38]
jurov "starting off with 5 BTC worth of each" [23:38]
jurov i was being all polite and professional... but 5BTC, orly? [23:38]
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dub thats like trillions of ltc tho rite? [23:39]
mircea_popescu jurov 5btc is a lot of ltc [23:40]
jurov plus, for it to be set up properly, they have to vote about it [23:40]
mircea_popescu o wait dub got there first [23:40]
jurov which one? [23:40]
thestringpuller EskimoBob: what is your deal with being an uninformed troll? [23:40]
dub ^ [23:40]
dub its a disgrace to trolling [23:41]
thestringpuller EskimoBob: you are a heckler [23:41]
thestringpuller you like to heckle mpex [23:41]
thestringpuller lol [23:41]
jurov anyway my deal with mpex is implementing frontend to functions that mpex later deprecates [23:42]
jurov first STAT, then WITHDRAW [23:42]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [23:42]
thestringpuller ;;google heckler [23:42]
gribble Heckler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Heckler (2007) - IMDb: ; Heckler | We Bring Nothing To The Table: [23:42]
mircea_popescu stat isn't deprecated! [23:42]
jurov and judging from today's unhappenings, DEPOSIT is next [23:43]
mircea_popescu lol wtf. [23:43]
thestringpuller Lol wtf [23:43]
mircea_popescu this is a trollspiracy! [23:43]
FabianB EskimoBob: have a look at https://coinbr.com/about [23:44]
jurov at least stat was superseded with statjson, to give some credit [23:44]
thestringpuller EskimoBob: Did MPOE-PR piss you off so much that you want to go to thermonuclear war with MPEX? [23:44]
thestringpuller it seems all you deep seeded hatred for MPEX is due to MPOE-PR [23:45]
Diablo-D3 dont let your jimmies get rustled [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 265 @ 0.00474591 = 1.2577 BTC [+] [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474912 = 2.8495 BTC [+] [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00474965 = 9.4993 BTC [+] [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.00474969 = 0.7077 BTC [+] [23:45]
Diablo-D3 man, Ill pay her 1.1 a day to quit mpoe-pr and do dmc-pr [23:46]
dub deep seeded? [23:46]
dub sounds like a pr0n [23:46]
Diablo-D3 btw, itym deep seated [23:47]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: and afaik shes fucking the boss anyhow [23:47]
dub she gets paid while she's getting paid [23:47]
mircea_popescu man, Ill pay her 1.1 a day to quit mpoe-pr and do dmc-pr << now that's nice. [23:47]
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Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: "the human dildo" [23:48]
* Diablo-D3 sends idea to DC, awaits next justice league comic [23:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1315 @ 0.00474969 = 6.2458 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 501 @ 0.00475053 = 2.38 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1521 @ 0.00475127 = 7.2267 BTC [+] [23:49]
jurov ROTA vs. The Human Dildo [23:49]
dub Human Dildo II: Deep seeding [23:50]
dub there was edward penis hands [23:51]
jurov eskimo, srs. can't you fap outside this channel? [23:51]
jurov we're tired of wiping that shit [23:51]
Diablo-D3 step 1) produce logs [23:52]
Diablo-D3 step 2) wipe [23:52]
Diablo-D3 step 3) flush [23:52]
Diablo-D3 unix coders are lol. [23:52]
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thestringpuller LOL [23:55]
thestringpuller This site is currently in beta. Nothing is verified. Everything is virtual. Do your homework. Watch out for scams. Be diligent. [23:55]
thestringpuller ^^^ the exchange mr. EskimoBob trusts so much [23:56]
kakobrekla lol which one is that? [23:56]
kakobrekla >In Debian project parlance, the term stable means that the software is no longer under active development or widespread use and that the authors are long dead [23:57]
dub lol [23:57]
Diablo-D3 kakobrekla: yes. [23:57]
thestringpuller kakobrekla: ltc-global [23:59]
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