Forum logs for 13 May 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BingoBoingo Well, the libsodium thing. Yes distasteful. Used though only for signing and verifying. Pretty sure we had a short convo about how similar "reop" sucked. Far from ideal, then again ideal needs new silicon. [00:01]
BingoBoingo People who have been fumbling in their own WoT simply trying to come up with a useful code signing tool. Ideal, no. Useful, maybe. MP continues his Bob Beck fatwa? Well, MP never really ends those in practice. [00:04]
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asciilifeform bob beck ? [00:04]
asciilifeform useful code signing tool ? [00:04]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Bob Beck the OpenBSd fundraiser. Sginify though was different person, tedu [00:05]
BingoBoingo OpenBSD though is at its weirdest reading Loper-OS and it is recognized as C coders trying to make the safest Unix they can [00:06]
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* BingoBoingo in practice views signify as the equivalent of iso images with md5 fingerprint offered in 2004. Some asurance contents as packged, but not any guarentee [00:08]
* BingoBoingo has also not yet built OpenBSD 5.7 [00:08]
BingoBoingo So necessarily has not installed it [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57926 @ 0.0002562 = 14.8406 BTC [+] {2} [00:10]
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BingoBoingo williamdunne: So the Van Cleef name in your linked article was also the same person at the CFTC meeting on Virtual currencies and with lesser connection may have been: [00:16]
BingoBoingo !s VanCleef [00:17]
assbot 2054 results for 'VanCleef' : [00:17]
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mircea_popescu shit, i go watch a couple bad marty feldman movies, the log runs off [00:34]
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menahem lol, i'm here. [00:43]
menahem steady lurkin'. [00:43]
menahem how were the flicks ? [00:45]
mircea_popescu << real men write all their documentation in welts on nubile caucasian hide. [00:45]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 01:59:16; williamdunne: Maybe I could try and one-up them and climb up into the mountains for a few years and carve a guide into a stone tablet. [00:45]
mircea_popescu menahem pretty bad. [00:45]
menahem lol, I know you know your films. which ones did you watch ? [00:46]
mircea_popescu "slapstick of another kind" and "the last remake of beau geste" [00:46]
menahem and LOL at documenting yoself on some fine booty. [00:46]
mircea_popescu the first's only vaguely notable because it depicts a marginal us (in the 70s) running everything on chicken shit [00:46]
mircea_popescu president even quips that imagine, the most important man of the 2nd richest most powerful country being reduced to this! air force one powered on chicken droppings! [00:47]
mircea_popescu (the chickens are in the cockpit, occupying the entire left side) [00:47]
decimation ^ cheaper than liquified coal [00:48]
mircea_popescu the 2nd is pretty bad throughout, sort-of a lawrence of arabia made by first time drunk teenagers [00:48]
menahem ahh, getting drunk the first time as a teen. good memories. [00:49]
mircea_popescu right ? [00:50]
mircea_popescu usians don't even know what thery're missing, gettin gdrunk for the first time at 21 is not the same. [00:50]
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decimation ^ rarely do they wait until 21 [00:51]
menahem yea by 21 it's almost old. like a pair of worn in pants or something. still useful, but not new. [00:51]
decimation although note that usg is fine with 18 year-olds voting and dying in the military [00:51]
mircea_popescu dude pete_dushenski has his moments. whodda thunk he has such subtle points down pat as "the most important thing is to not overprice". [00:52]
mircea_popescu most people die before figuring that much out. [00:52]
menahem pete_dushenski is a pimp. love that guy. [00:52]
mircea_popescu you WILL actually make more money letting slightly under market than in ANY other way. [00:52]
mircea_popescu and exactly for the reason stated : if you're a slight prize, you get the best crop of tenants competing for you. if not... you're stuck rooting through the bottom of the barrel. [00:53]
decimation oh that reminds me, I heard a good econtalk today [00:53]
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mircea_popescu and gawd almighty is that barrel deep and has the cat pissed in it. [00:53]
menahem lol [00:53]
menahem you have the link to that ? [00:53]
mircea_popescu to what, the cat ? [00:54]
menahem lol dushenski on that [00:54]
mircea_popescu it's a metaphor [00:54]
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assbot Tips and tricks for being a successful (small time) landlord. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [00:54]
menahem ahh brand new, just missed it [00:54]
decimation "But the one thing it seems to me that economists wake up--if you wake them up in the middle of the night and say, 'Hey, what's the most important thing?' They will say, 'Marginal cost pricing.' That the way to make a market work properly is that everything should be offered for sale at its marginal cost, which is the cost of someone using it." [00:55]
asciilifeform l0l re: article. also remembering 'rentalstarter' etc. for what it's worth, i live on the other end of that stick, the rental market that virtually nobody caters to [00:55]
decimation This was in the context of a conversation about art museums. apparently it is forbidden for any art museum to contemplate selling any of their art [00:55]
asciilifeform (free-standing houses) [00:56]
mircea_popescu decimation so it is. [00:56]
mircea_popescu as any purely fiat market, the art market exists strictly on the basis of such policies. [00:56]
decimation "'? Guest: Any museum--I'm paraphrasing--it basically says any museum that sells art for any purpose for any purpose other than to buy more art--so it's okay if you have three paintings by Painter A and none by Painter B and you like Painter B and you sell an A painting and buy a B painting. That's okay. But if you ever sell out of the collection for any purpose other than more collecting, then other museum directors are forbidden by [00:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nobody caters to anything but the govt where you live. [00:57]
decimation so apparently most of the monets in the us are sitting in a vault in chicago [00:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hey, palace economy [00:57]
decimation becuase it would be unethical to sell one to a museum in grand rapids so they could display it [00:58]
BingoBoingo Speaking of markets and assets, does anyone want to buy assorted daisy and iris rhizomes for fall delivery? [00:58]
mircea_popescu decimation this is strictly better than selling them to that texan idiot that put his fist through em [00:58]
decimation sure, no doubt [00:58]
asciilifeform l0l when was this [00:58]
asciilifeform somehow missed it [00:58]
decimation apparently the actual valuation of art in us art museums is hilariously high [00:59]
mircea_popescu that bitcoin isp thread on trilema has turned into one of the flat out strangest things i've witnessed online lately. [00:59]
decimation "Everybody in Chicago has what is--three and a half million people in the metropolitan area and $35 billion, like three thousand dollar [?] endowment sitting in the basement of this museum." [00:59]
BingoBoingo apparently the actual valuation of art in us art museums is hilariously high << I price my iris and daisy rhizomes high because historical artifacts. FBI surrendered to BTC once in this yard [00:59]
decimation heh [01:00]
asciilifeform decimation: the entire art market is wholly and solely a kind of 'low-tech bitcoin' for fiat lizards [01:00]
decimation yeah exactly [01:00]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm reading it now. mindfuck. [01:00]
decimation the net effect is that it makes rich people think they are big shots and strokes the egos of the academic idiots [01:00]
asciilifeform decimation: notice the obsession with authentication. of, even, jackson pollack's splatters [01:01]
asciilifeform it is the dead giveaway of the actual purpose of the whole orchestra. [01:01]
asciilifeform has nothing to do with aesthetics, and everything with a kind of bizarre monetization. [01:01]
mircea_popescu o btw, the romanians failed this "test of americana" back in the day. [01:02]
assbot Test de Americana on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [01:02]
mircea_popescu questionb being "what town is being entered and which direction" [01:03]
* asciilifeform remembers the 'test de americana' in sierra's 'leisure suit larry' [01:03]
mircea_popescu hehe [01:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform [01:04]
assbot Solved: Leisure Suit Larry Age Verification Questions ... ( ) [01:04]
asciilifeform waitasec [01:06]
asciilifeform this is -not- the classic set! [01:06]
asciilifeform mentions 'enron', wtf. [01:06]
asciilifeform and 'freedom fries' etc [01:06]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform anbd re wynn's mishap : [01:07]
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* BingoBoingo of all things wants land in USia capable of growing serious onions, for the only reason that onion futures in USia are banned [01:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ok, better source. [01:08]
assbot LSL1 Age Quiz - Al Lowe's Humor Site ... ( ) [01:09]
mircea_popescu what the fuck is it with the koreans and killing people with antiaircraft guns. [01:15]
mircea_popescu is this the effect of the rambo series ? [01:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i am presently at a loss for reasons to believe that it happened [01:15]
asciilifeform south kr mouthpieces tell tales of precisely this flavour regularly [01:16]
mod6 Alright I've got a Gentoo AMD64 uclibc hardened booted successfully. I basically just had a few minor tweaks to make to the notes; i.e., uclibc version doens't install grub by default, there is no /etc/locale.gen by default. That kinda thing. [01:16]
mod6 I'm having a bit of ssh pubkey auth issues again. [01:16]
asciilifeform and the disgraced and supposedly blown-from-cannons fella has, just as believably, been alleged to have been seen in public again. [01:16]
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mircea_popescu << sadly, distinctness and stupidity are pretty much married these days. [01:16]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 02:09:20; decimation: williamdunne: it's not that I'm a hater on asian folk, just that it doesn't have a distinct 'englishness' anymore [01:16]
mod6 anyone know if service starts up on its own in the uclibc version? [01:17]
mircea_popescu mod6 dun think so. [01:17]
* BingoBoingo likes the rando commenters addopting scamzor names and trying to out a comment by the since quit pankkake: [01:17]
assbot Introducing the Bitcoin ISP on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [01:17]
BingoBoingo is this the effect of the rambo series ? << Yes [01:17]
mircea_popescu << pretty sure they can't simply republish it. what news would it be then. [01:18]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 02:08:53; trinque: I'll just stick the thing on and then you guys can make your own decisions re: newsworthiness [01:18]
BingoBoingo As far as lower Korea is concerned they beat the Chicoms by having anti aircraft guns entrenched mostest [01:18]
* asciilifeform has always liked the british 'devil's wind' cannon punishment, but for some reason grew up believing at first that it had been invented by the turks [01:19]
mircea_popescu im not even sure wtf anti aircraft guns are supposed to even do anymore. [01:19]
BingoBoingo << pretty sure they can't simply republish it. what news would it be then. << Principle objection to how too articles [01:19]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 02:08:53; trinque: I'll just stick the thing on and then you guys can make your own decisions re: newsworthiness [01:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo just saying, once he publishes it on his blog, that's that, no qntra. [01:20]
decimation mircea_popescu: the reason distinctness and stupidity are married is because social democracy sucks anyone with half a brain out of his native soil and places him in bureaucracy [01:20]
BingoBoingo im not even sure wtf anti aircraft guns are supposed to even do anymore < [01:20]
mircea_popescu decimation may well be. [01:20]
decimation the wehrmacht made good use of their 88mm guns for a variety of purposes [01:20]
mircea_popescu it may also be that distinctness is a flavour of tradition, and no tradition survived ww2. [01:21]
decimation yeah that's largely true [01:21]
mod6 awe crap, might have missed `rc-update add local default`. aight one more try here. [01:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: incorrect. from these figures alone << then they're not terribly useful figures are they :D [01:22]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo just saying, once he publishes it on his blog, that's that, no qntra. << Sure. Maybe it is a congitive bias of myself, but I assume persona; wordfests would always get the best Tips and Tricks (TM firstest) [01:22]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: the sluts in question <<< doesn't change the fact that the sentiment was genuine. [01:24]
mircea_popescu im pretty certain more russians identify with a femen-centered-reality than with a stalin centered one. [01:24]
mircea_popescu in other news, [01:26]
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decimation lol < some crazy kiwis have restored an 88mm flak, fire blanks randomy [01:27]
assbot 88mm Flak - WW2 Anti-Aircraft Gun - YouTube ... ( ) [01:27]
mod6 * rc-update: local already installed in runlevel `default'; skipping << hmm. [01:27]
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mod6 have to pick it up tomorrow. [01:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: "assumes that usa will occupy self with same army - and same aimlessness - with which it occupied iraq. this is not a proven fact." << lemme guess... they have a meta army in reserve, just haven't been using it because reasons ? [01:31]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: "assumes that usa will occupy self with same army - and same aimlessness - with which it occupied iraq. this is not a proven fact." << lemme guess... they have a meta army in reserve, just haven't been using it because reasons ? << Nah, most "officers" same just Iraw army aged out [01:32]
mircea_popescu myeah [01:33]
BingoBoingo Just ungodly turnover. [01:34]
mircea_popescu << this point is particularly amusing. what will the soldiers sent to kill the next obama do ? [01:36]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 02:39:27; asciilifeform: decimation: the official story not only does not add up, but wtf, they killed all of the witnesses (own soldiers) in 'training accidents' aha. [01:36]
mircea_popescu guy, if he has any sense, will go "hey, you kill me - they kill you." [01:36]
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mircea_popescu << sadly, i have nfi. there's a bunch of ru/ukr photogs that do fetish-y/arts-y stuff in the style of met, but i can't trace this one. [01:47]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 02:44:37; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would dearly like to learn the context for this picture ^ [01:47]
mircea_popescu o wait, williamdunne = vanclef ? [01:49]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: No, he linked to articles mentioning a Vancleef who was the same Vancleef in the CFTC hearings [01:50]
mircea_popescu aha [01:50]
BingoBoingo Still God only knows if that is the same Vancleef who noised up here back in the day [01:51]
mircea_popescu o, also : [01:52]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( ) [01:52]
decimation oh no what a shame [01:54]
decimation now those monets can't be kept in some basement somewhere [01:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 399900 @ 0.00025131 = 100.4989 BTC [-] {2} [01:55]
decimation < note that a single regular beat cop with a 9mm handgun was what stopped the crazy 'terrorists' in texas [01:56]
assbot A Good Guy with a Gun « Isegoria ... ( ) [01:56]
decimation one cop that could shoot accurately was infinitely more effective at 'stopping terrorists' than hundreds of thousands of security bureaucrats [01:56]
mircea_popescu decimation mostly quoted for the "A Romanian forensic expert at work in a laboratory at the National History Museum in Bucharest." running... windows. [01:57]
decimation heh, probably most such laboratories run windows [01:57]
decimation because that's what their fancy machines use [01:58]
mircea_popescu and his display i think is the basic image viewer [01:58]
decimation heh that's lulzy - it is the 'windows fax and media viewer' [01:58]
mircea_popescu with experts such as these, we hardly need brutish peasants anymore. [02:00]
decimation "Referring to the Dogarus, Mr. Oberlander-Tarnoveanu said, "It seems they were not very honest, because apparently a lot of members of the family had a long judicial history." [02:00]
decimation no shit sherlock [02:00]
decimation from the earlier podcast "Again, if you accept my proposition that the object of the museum enterprise is for people to be engaging with art rather than for museums to be possessing art, then I think all of these questions come to the surface, and that they are real possibilities once we understand how much enormous wealth has been accumulated and isn't being put to use." [02:01]
decimation note the difference between merely possessing and engaging - "Yeah I have a chunk of that roman temple, it's my birdbath" [02:02]
mircea_popescu what if i don't accept that proposition ? [02:02]
mircea_popescu it seems to me the height of stupidity. "people" have specifically no business "engaging" with art. [02:02]
mircea_popescu they've "engaged" with literature, and it was to everyone's detriment. [02:03]
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decimation heh. well if you zoom out to the big picture - there is no 'optimal' distribution of art if you define 'optimal' as 'turns peasants into people' [02:04]
mircea_popescu right ? [02:05]
decimation the layers of pretense wrapped up in the 'art' market are amusing [02:05]
mircea_popescu there is this very ridiculous animism at work, whereby somehow "art" is objectively beautiful, and beauty is somehow objectively good, which makes it you know, turn lions to lambs. [02:06]
decimation rich folk pretend they have taste, 'art people' pretend they are somebodies, hedge fund managers pretend they are 'investing' [02:06]
mircea_popescu a trope as old as the greeks. [02:06]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile, the purpose of art is much simpler : the mob is illiterate, and art is the single letter alphabet catering to all its needs : "THIS IS WHY YOU ARE SCUM". that's the only sentence that needs to be expressed. [02:06]
decimation cities pretend they have culture, schools pretend to education. all because some derp scribble some shit on a canvas [02:06]
mircea_popescu and that's why revolution -> looting versailles is such an automatism [02:07]
mircea_popescu and why the "golden toilets" propaganda bits of contemporaneity. [02:07]
decimation because when the san qulot saw the fancy paintings they knew in their hindbrain that they were inferior? [02:07]
mircea_popescu no, because they had spent their lives with the "you are inferior because versailles" mantra [02:08]
mircea_popescu so once they decided to no longewr be inferior they had to do SOMETHING about this [02:08]
mircea_popescu there really is no objective anything in aesthetics. what hindbrains. [02:09]
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assbot French Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [02:09]
mircea_popescu is that up top a frigian gynecologist's cap with candles ? [02:11]
decimation heh yeah it's a phrygian cap [02:12]
decimation donno why the candles [02:12]
decimation < for folks who don't know [02:12]
assbot Phrygian cap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [02:12]
decimation < continues even to this day, the derpitude [02:14]
assbot Phrygian cap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [02:14]
decimation heh there are amusing layers here > "In 1854, when sculptor Thomas Crawford was preparing models for sculpture for the United States Capitol, Secretary of War Jefferson Davis (later to be the President of the Confederate States of America) insisted that a Phrygian cap not be included on a Statue of Freedom, on the grounds that "American liberty is original and not the liberty of the freed slave". " [02:16]
mircea_popescu heh. [02:17]
mircea_popescu argentinians are really into the cap. [02:17]
decimation usians have mostly forgotten about it, even though it apparently is on the seal of the us senate [02:18]
decimation is argentina going to slide into socialist morass like brazil and mexico? [02:19]
mircea_popescu no. brazil and mexico are actually developped economies and so forth. [02:21]
mircea_popescu argentina is a bunch of inept peasants. [02:21]
mircea_popescu they used to export meat, but failed to meet the quotas, lost the contracts, are now exporting soy. [02:21]
mircea_popescu argentina is headed to go look for chad, not for brazil. [02:22]
decimation it's amusing that the supposed flower of germany's exiles haven't seem to have underped argentina [02:22]
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mircea_popescu heh. country is half italians. [02:22]
mircea_popescu no place could survive such a thing. [02:22]
decimation heh [02:22]
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mircea_popescu < there you go. [02:25]
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decimation lol oilcake [02:26]
mircea_popescu << meanwhile this is what they THINK they're doing. [02:26]
assbot File:Romania Export Treemap.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [02:26]
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decimation wow romania actually makes shit [02:27]
mircea_popescu !up copypaste [02:28]
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decimation I bet the majority of argintina's 'raw materials' exports are extracted by foreign corporations [02:29]
mircea_popescu doh. [02:29]
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mircea_popescu lmao [02:30]
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mircea_popescu it's not hard. [02:31]
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BingoBoingo So Jealous here in lower Illinois. [02:37]
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copypaste hmm [02:39]
copypaste gpg: encrypted with RSA key, ID 16B8E32E [02:39]
BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.copypaste.1:a6902919995628c0c68869bfdf8c7522fa21bd81a50d0776b7f7799f4cc9b42e [02:39]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for copypaste with note: Rolling fury [02:39]
copypaste but I did [02:39]
copypaste 01:31:43 copypaste !register 6F12EC72A82ABCA35235063A10DDC983901AA183 [02:39]
copypaste not sure what key is 16B8E32E [02:39]
mircea_popescu !gettrust copypaste [02:39]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user copypaste: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | | [02:39]
mircea_popescu dang alpha doesn't have him yet [02:40]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Alpha only updates daily [02:40]
mircea_popescu ya [02:40]
mircea_popescu [tonick] => copypaste [tokey] => 6f12ec72a82abca35235063a10ddc983901aa183 [02:41]
mircea_popescu you're registered alright, what's the problem [02:41]
copypaste is encrypted with ID 16B8E32E [02:41]
assbot ... ( ) [02:41]
* BingoBoingo still soliciting bids on decade old Iris rhizomes in purple, yellow and gold as well as white common daisy rhizomes [02:42]
copypaste So that's the wrong key [02:42]
mircea_popescu copypaste that's his key. [02:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 440968 @ 0.00026023 = 114.7531 BTC [+] {3} [02:42]
copypaste Oh [02:42]
mircea_popescu he needs to confirm his rating of you [02:42]
cazalla !rate copypaste 1 prolly JIDF but anyway [02:42]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: [02:42]
copypaste I understand. I thought you were telling me how to verify, sorry. [02:42]
copypaste lol [02:42]
mircea_popescu nah, you registered and got ratings, you're good. [02:42]
BingoBoingo copypaste: It is a cognitive hiccup we all hit nao [02:42]
mircea_popescu tomorrow can check out your name in alpha website, under [02:43]
assbot ... ( ) [02:43]
BingoBoingo previous different bot was different [02:43]
mircea_popescu ok, so now : what would you want to push the "Welcome to 8chan," text to the right on 8chan, and sell me the center there. [02:43]
copypaste For how long? [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 157100 @ 0.00026003 = 40.8507 BTC [-] [02:44]
copypaste Also, I recommend putting ads on the boards (or the boards page ) and not the homepage for the most people to see it. [02:44]
assbot Boards on ∞chan ... ( ) [02:44]
mircea_popescu forever. [02:44]
mircea_popescu paid monthly or w/e. [02:44]
mircea_popescu hm [02:44]
copypaste forever, haha. what would the text be? [02:45]
mircea_popescu oh i see... yeah boards much better huh [02:45]
copypaste Yeah. Most people just bookmark their favorite board or whatever. [02:45]
mircea_popescu right makes sense. [02:45]
mircea_popescu the idea being that i'd just rotate banners, whatever they might be. [02:45]
cazalla !v assbot:cazalla.rate.copypaste.1:3cabd5a51fac525d743abba6bdd058dd0c0a75bdb94cde95251c51e58e81e598 [02:45]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for copypaste with note: prolly JIDF but anyway [02:45]
mircea_popescu ;;ud jidf [02:46]
gribble | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal on news ... [02:46]
mircea_popescu ahaha wut. [02:46]
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mircea_popescu cazalla incidentally, i was reading about some anti-racist association thingee. was good for a lol. [02:46]
cazalla it's a /pol/ joke/troll [02:46]
copypaste Well, it is a real organization too. [02:46]
copypaste But it's not known if they actually post on 4/8chan. [02:47]
mircea_popescu so are mine. << derping about how they beat up on some dudes. [02:48]
mircea_popescu very adolescentine altogether. [02:48]
mircea_popescu made me feel 16 all over again [02:49]
cazalla pretty sure they posted on 4chan but prob not near as much as claimed [02:49]
mircea_popescu o, wait, cause there's this jews imageboard meme, rite. [02:49]
copypaste Yes [02:50]
mircea_popescu copypaste any reason those banners are all tiny ? [02:50]
copypaste 728x90 is tiny? [02:50]
copypaste I assumed it was a standard size [02:50]
mircea_popescu maybe i happenbed opn a small one lessee [02:50]
mircea_popescu << [02:50]
assbot ... ( ) [02:50]
mircea_popescu that can't be 728 across [02:50]
copypaste Ahh. That's not an ad banner, it's a board banner. [02:51]
copypaste They're set by whoever creates the board. [02:51]
mircea_popescu oh [02:51]
copypaste Ad banners are above the post form [02:51]
copypaste On 404 pages, and on catalog pages. Yeah. [02:51]
mircea_popescu so those anonymous ads things ? [02:52]
mircea_popescu ugly whiter Pirate Center Fast Torrent Downloads Download Movies Music Games & Software Free & FAST" thing ? [02:52]
cazalla copypaste, so is it copypaste? i figured it was hotwheels for real [02:52]
* BingoBoingo thinking everyday a proboxing fight for my 40th birthday is more realistic [02:52]
copypaste cazalla: I am hotwheels for real, how would you like me to verify that? [02:52]
copypaste I added my pubkey from to assbot [02:52]
assbot ... ( ) [02:52]
cazalla no, i mean nickwise [02:52]
mircea_popescu that's actually valid verification. [02:53]
cazalla wasn't sure if you call yourself hotwheels or just others [02:53]
copypaste Oh. I've always used the nick "copypaste" in IRC ( as well as on Github: ). Hotwheels is a meme. [02:53]
assbot ctrlcctrlv (Fredrick Brennan) · GitHub ... ( ) [02:53]
mircea_popescu copypaste ok, so how much do "anonymous-ads" pay you for that spot ? [02:53]
copypaste It was abysmal before I contacted the owner. Then he paid me 0.01BTC for yesterday. [02:54]
copypaste Still pretty abysmal, but it was even worse before. [02:54]
mircea_popescu ahaha. [02:54]
mircea_popescu i''ll payt you 1 btc upfront for the first month and you give it to me, exclusive. no other ads on 8chan [02:54]
cazalla copypaste, ah ok got it, wasn't questioning if you are who you claim to be btw [02:54]
mircea_popescu anbd this includes coinbase bullshit. [02:54]
copypaste I'm not even getting paid for that Coinbase link ;) 4free [02:55]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> so are mine. << derping about how they beat up on some dudes.<< WHat the everloving fuck. [02:55]
mircea_popescu copypaste i write you a rotator script, you just pull that in ? [02:56]
copypaste mircea_popescu: Some boards don't have a-ads. The agreement with the hosting company is that for some boards, they put their own ads, but I don't know how much those make. In turn they don't send me a bill. [02:57]
mircea_popescu which boards are these ? [02:57]
copypaste I can put it on all the a-ads boards, but if I made it exclusive for you for the whole site, I'd need to find a new host. [02:57]
BingoBoingo I guess BTC-ISP will have to fish a new client... [02:57]
copypaste They are...every board except: [02:57]
copypaste $config['banned_ad_boards'] = array('b','furry','cuteboys','hebe','erp','loli','hentaikey4','younglove','r9k','ssft','deutsch','bbw','r','rule34','100l','hentaikey4','kong','lit','baphomet'); [02:57]
* mircea_popescu doesn't even know wtf this all is. [02:58]
copypaste Boards. [02:58]
copypaste [02:58]
mircea_popescu so your host gets the listed ones ? [02:58]
copypaste [02:58]
mircea_popescu yeah but, baphomet ? wtf ? [02:58]
copypaste No, he gets all of them except the listed ones. [02:58]
* assbot removes voice from copypaste [02:58]
mircea_popescu o.O [02:58]
mircea_popescu can you up yourself ? [02:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Baphomet is the devil board that doxxed the evil Judge Forrest [02:58]
mircea_popescu oh. [02:58]
BingoBoingo !up copypaste [02:58]
* assbot gives voice to copypaste [02:58]
BingoBoingo copypaste: !up thyself [02:59]
mircea_popescu so basically host gets all teh good ones is the idea ? [02:59]
copypaste !v assbot:copypaste.up:a83b0e7626cd435b725ff2f5cf9273e420a71a9f1d84305e3c58401f4b8c0acb [02:59]
* assbot gives voice to copypaste [02:59]
copypaste /b/ is a good one. [02:59]
copypaste /furry/ is rank #4. [02:59]
copypaste /cuteboys/ is also in the top 25. Rank 10 I think. [02:59]
copypaste Basically he doesn't like porn boards. [02:59]
copypaste /b/ is the second most popular board on the site. [02:59]
mircea_popescu and pol gets no ads i see ? [02:59]
copypaste You might have adblock on [03:00]
copypaste Or, the derps (sorry to steal your word) in charge still have ignored me and haven't added SSL support [03:00]
mircea_popescu yeah. it just fails to load. [03:00]
BingoBoingo copypaste: Basically everyone here has weird browser settings and compile flags [03:00]
copypaste Indeed, that's the problem [03:00]
mircea_popescu well, what sort of server are you getting ? [03:00]
copypaste We have 7 servers. [03:00]
copypaste One of them has a 10TB RAID6 for all the media. [03:01]
BingoBoingo copypaste: Discrete machines, VPS cores, or rack units [03:01]
mircea_popescu and so your host gets /pol/ but can't be arsed to put advertising on it fo real ? [03:01]
copypaste If you visit it on non-https it will work. Like I said, they are hard to deal with. They told me "new ad code by the end of May". [03:01]
copypaste I'm holding my breaeth still. [03:02]
copypaste Also most of the ads are in Japanese. [03:02]
mircea_popescu << this is there, so it just fails. [03:02]
assbot dpaste: 1Y0NDJX ... ( ) [03:02]
mircea_popescu << http is no different, soimehow [03:02]
assbot /pol/ - Politically Incorrect ... ( ) [03:02]
BingoBoingo I see no banner on /pol/ either, but... [03:03]
copypaste I do: [03:04]
assbot ... ( ) [03:04]
copypaste As I said, they're incompetent so it doesn't work over HTTPS. [03:04]
copypaste That's really what it comes down to. [03:05]
copypaste And they can't be assed to fix it until end of May, apparently. [03:05]
mircea_popescu i think it might not work because geolocation, too. [03:05]
copypaste Oh yeah, that's a local ad for here. [03:05]
mircea_popescu anyway, if you're getting 7 servers including expensive raid arrangements for the ads you should prolly stick to that deal. i doubt the advertising value of what seems like 15 maybe 20k uniques past 72 hours could support that. [03:06]
copypaste Indeed. And if you want any of the a-ads boards I can do that too. [03:06]
mircea_popescu course, since they seem to just be burning the americas market... maybe ask them if they'd be willing to split it like that ? [03:06]
mircea_popescu copypaste honestly i mostly wanted pol. [03:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35243 @ 0.00025116 = 8.8516 BTC [-] [03:07]
copypaste I can do that. They told me that if people email me about ads on boards they have ads on (/pol/, /v/) I should accept it and tell them. [03:07]
copypaste I get email occasionally about putting ads on /v/. [03:07]
copypaste (Video Games) [03:07]
mircea_popescu that too, im about to launch eulora. [03:08]
copypaste So in reality I'll pay them most of what you give me, but you still get your ad. [03:08]
mircea_popescu interesting approach. [03:09]
copypaste And I can remove the Coinbase/localbitcoins thing as well [03:09]
copypaste Indeed. Since I'm the main email ( ) I get most ad inquiries anyway [03:09]
mircea_popescu alright, well, let's see this, gimme then the a-ads set + pol + v, and i [03:09]
mircea_popescu ll pay the btc and after a month we see. [03:09]
mircea_popescu how about that ? [03:09]
copypaste Okay, cool. Works for me [03:10]
mircea_popescu aite, effective in a coupla days once i get the rotator in place ? [03:10]
copypaste Sure thing [03:10]
mircea_popescu addy ? [03:10]
copypaste I can implement it as soon as you're ready by adding /pol/, /v/ and /i/ to the banned_boards thing and then changing the ad code. [03:10]
copypaste Addy is 1LMWkmYpPNXLr9SKHXtZvSrraEWTZtm5Wb [03:11]
copypaste Or 1PeYbcRaXTKGaCaRzRsPbfPXrQNc8Cfxkm . Doesn't matter. [03:11]
mircea_popescu aite. ideally you add this chan to your idle list and so i can just ping you when it's ready. [03:11]
copypaste Will do. It'll be the 117th channel I'm idling in :) [03:12]
mircea_popescu lol [03:13]
mircea_popescu cazalla hey, wanna make a list of trilema articles that fit with 8chan ? and qntra idem. [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97140 @ 0.00025244 = 24.522 BTC [+] [03:16]
cazalla not sure qntra has any specific to pol, they'd need an interest in bitcoin to begin with.. as for trilema, i'll have a hunt [03:18]
mircea_popescu gotta find something. [03:18]
copypaste I've gotten some of them interested. [03:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198350 @ 0.00026123 = 51.815 BTC [+] {3} [03:18]
copypaste Due to derps 8chan can only accept Bitcoin donations reliably. [03:18]
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copypaste I've had to school many people in how to buy Bitcoin due to this. [03:18]
cazalla copypaste, fucking flattr eh [03:19]
copypaste Indeed. Not just them. [03:19]
copypaste Gratipay, Patreon. PayPal but that's a give in. [03:19]
cazalla well paypal is a given [03:19]
mircea_popescu lol what is the issue again ? [03:20]
copypaste PayPal blocked me for "hate speech" [03:20]
mircea_popescu too weird ? [03:20]
assbot ... ( ) [03:20]
mircea_popescu what did you say ? [03:20]
copypaste Patreon blocked me for "illustrated child pornograhy" [03:20]
copypaste mircea_popescu: It's not what I say. These peopole hold me accountable for what anonymous users do. [03:20]
copypaste That's the problem. [03:20]
copypaste They hold us accountable for the posts on the site as if we mdae them. [03:21]
mircea_popescu lol illustrated pornography! [03:21]
mircea_popescu well ok, so what did the posts say [03:21]
copypaste They didn't cite any specific posts, PayPal at least. [03:21]
cazalla copypaste, that's family guy porn is illegal here, same with A cup sized titties in porn because can be somehow associated with pre-pubescent girls [03:21]
cazalla oh and squirting too.. banned [03:22]
copypaste Indeed. That was their official reason. It even got in a video game blog: [03:22]
assbot 8chan removed from Patreon... Becomes cat sanctuary - destructoid ... ( ) [03:22]
copypaste cazalla: Australian? [03:22]
cazalla yup [03:22]
copypaste Yeah, that's insane. [03:22]
copypaste That's why there's no web services running out of Aus. [03:22]
copypaste No forums or user generated content sites. [03:22]
mircea_popescu wait. what's the problem with squirting ? [03:22]
copypaste Patreon wrote [03:23]
copypaste "While we understand your commitment to free speech, we will not allow 8chan to continue using Patreon, as several boards facilitate the distribution of harmful content and activity, such as illustrated child exploitation imagery." [03:23]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: They think it is pissing [03:23]
cazalla well australian government says women can't squirt, doesn't exist and is in fact pissing and urination porn is forbidden [03:23]
mircea_popescu so ? [03:23]
mircea_popescu wait... pissing is forbidden in australia ? [03:23]
mircea_popescu so what do you do ? [03:23]
copypaste I guess videotaping the pissing is illegal. [03:23]
copypaste You can still piss, just don't let a camera see. [03:23]
cazalla pissing and fucking at the same time on video or providing it for others to watch is illegal [03:23]
mircea_popescu what happens if you piss on surveilalnce cams ? [03:24]
copypaste haha [03:24]
mircea_popescu like you know, take a girl out, fuck her, the piss on the cam. [03:24]
copypaste Or if you have sex in a public bathroom [03:24]
copypaste Indeed. [03:24]
mircea_popescu (yes, i have done this) [03:24]
copypaste Call the cops on the operator of the camera. [03:24]
cazalla they'll arrest you for pissing in public [03:24]
mircea_popescu ... [03:24]
mircea_popescu you got no bars there i take it. [03:24]
cazalla we do and they run sting operations in alley ways to catch pissers [03:25]
BingoBoingo No, the CCtv perv was a pr0nographist [03:25]
mircea_popescu ahahaha what [03:25]
BingoBoingo we do and they run sting operations in alley ways to catch pissers << Not a thing here yet [03:25]
mircea_popescu copypaste [03:25]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction eea8640039c6eeb7ee7d3b109f540eb1c1283202526952381ba2ace420e11906 [03:26]
mircea_popescu << dude check out all the fuckable adolescent bois. [03:26]
assbot /cuteboys/ - The Slut Thread ... ( ) [03:26]
cazalla [03:26]
assbot Public urinations dry up after ACT Police and city initiatives ... ( ) [03:27]
copypaste Thanks mircea_popescu. Ping me with the ad code when it's ready [03:27]
mircea_popescu sure. [03:27]
mircea_popescu << that is his rifle, that is his gun. [03:27]
assbot ... ( ) [03:27]
mircea_popescu and that to the left is the lightswitch. [03:28]
copypaste lmao. That board literally has a map [03:28]
copypaste Where they put markers of themselves and ask to get fucked. [03:28]
BingoBoingo ;;google they really are buttcoins nao [03:28]
gribble They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: ; February 2013 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: [03:28]
mircea_popescu ahaha yeah. copypaste any womenz on 8chan as far as you know ? [03:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 203100 @ 0.00025365 = 51.5163 BTC [-] {5} [03:30]
copypaste There is a /fem/ board. [03:30]
copypaste Unfortunately not as popular. [03:30]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema pay for your tits [03:30]
gribble I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; June 2014 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: [03:30]
copypaste They also sometimes post on /b/ for attention. [03:30]
mircea_popescu ^that's still good. [03:30]
mircea_popescu then they can donate the btc to you lmao [03:30]
copypaste lol [03:30]
cazalla mircea_popescu, how many article you want, tbh a lot of your content would be appealing to some of /pol/ [03:30]
mircea_popescu cazalla i didn't think that far ahead ;/ [03:31]
mircea_popescu dunno, till you get bored. [03:31]
copypaste You laugh but we've gotten like 30 BTC from donations. Enough to buy a pass to trade on! ;) [03:31]
mircea_popescu win. [03:31]
mircea_popescu Total Received 34.99134406 BTC << yep, confirmed. [03:31]
BingoBoingo << that is his rifle, that is his gun. << Nice SKS [03:31]
assbot ... ( ) [03:31]
mircea_popescu nice cock, too. guy's doing okay. [03:32]
mircea_popescu copypaste do you have a bdsm/slavegirls board too ? [03:32]
BingoBoingo Well, as long as he can step away from the webs for a while [03:32]
copypaste Yes. [03:33]
mircea_popescu ;;ud tfw [03:33]
gribble | That Feel When Followed by some feel you should be able to relate to. TFW you smoke the day's first cigarette. by feelsrapeman October 30, 2011. 2138 307. [03:33]
copypaste Since unlike 4chan users create the boards [03:33]
copypaste We get tons of interesting ones. [03:33]
mircea_popescu "If you donated to the Infinity Dev. Group over Flattr, it seems that they have turned into a scam and you should charge these conmen back immediately by contacting your financial institution. (I realize this includes my support key. I don't give a shit, flood their insecure bullshit report ticket in my name. I see no other way to prove it.) Reports are that they lost their PayPal account recently, and Flattr CEO and o [03:35]
mircea_popescu nly employee @bonq is ignoring all communication from me via their ticket system and Twitter. The icing on the cake is that they blocked me and three others for asking where the fuck 46.74 EUR went." [03:35]
mircea_popescu bwahaha [03:35]
mircea_popescu wtf is flattr anyway [03:35]
copypaste Shitty Swedish corporation. They take 10% anyway. [03:35]
copypaste Service is abysmal. They're probably going under soon. [03:36]
cazalla similar shit to dwolla i think [03:36]
copypaste After Gratipay fucked with me I put them out of business, or close to it. [03:36]
copypaste I don't care enough to do the same to Flattr though. [03:36]
copypaste You can read my Twitter TL for how. One call to FinCEN and the CEO went full GLBSE [03:36]
copypaste "oh no, i need to do AML! the state is coming!" [03:36]
copypaste he then locked evreyone's balances [03:36]
copypaste And is only withdrawing if you prove your ID to him. [03:37]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [03:37]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [03:37]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:37]
mircea_popescu ahh the glbse was such lolz. [03:37]
copypaste I know. I've read a lot of your blog the past week. I wasn't around for that but that chat log, man. I could feel it. [03:37]
BingoBoingo Fucking Labcoin might have been close to peak lulz. [03:37]
copypaste "You have a welfare check" as proof of ID. [03:37]
copypaste Gets me every time. [03:37]
mircea_popescu welfare check is pretty good proof of id really [03:38]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, Tyrone takes it and cashes it at the Persian liquor store [03:38]
* mircea_popescu recalls how happy egyptians were to drink his shitty scotch [03:39]
cazalla ah shit look at that, trilema has an article on drugstore cowboy [03:40]
mircea_popescu doh. [03:41]
mircea_popescu << check it out, vidya goons have sex [03:41]
assbot ... ( ) [03:41]
mircea_popescu < nb.jpg [03:44]
assbot ... ( ) [03:44]
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cazalla well, here are some select some just for the quotes (such as the last) a pol loves em some quotes like that [03:47]
assbot ... ( ) [03:47]
mircea_popescu thanks! [03:47]
cazalla fucking engrish.. can always tell i've had a day or 2 of heavy drinking when i type like that [03:47]
mircea_popescu get some trilema srsly. [03:47]
cazalla but anything on topic of feminism, socialism, money, jews, hitler, conservative values (vamp and marriage one would be a bit of an eye opener for some of em) would do well with the pol crowd [03:49]
BingoBoingo ;;google trilema back to the basement [03:50]
cazalla actually was vamp and gays, right? marriage was another article from memory to show it's a bit of bullshit this conservative idea and all [03:50]
gribble O hai let me wanna-be! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; OCD: Moosh & Twist - Back To The Basement Mixtape - Stream ...: ; Back to the Basement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message) [03:50]
copypaste r/buttcoin will probably flip. I've noticed that the same trolls on r/GamerGhazi are on r/buttcoin. [03:50]
copypaste The crossover is real. [03:50]
BingoBoingo copypaste: SJW/Socialist crossover is always real [03:50]
mircea_popescu except buttcoin is like the only readable reddit thing. [03:51]
BingoBoingo Thing is around these here parts we prefer /r/rbuttcoin to /r/bitcoin by miles [03:51]
copypaste haha [03:51]
mircea_popescu yeah. sukas just make better idiocy than random twerps. [03:53]
BingoBoingo Last spring I survived a testicular torsion with both testicles intact. It was far less painful than any consecutive set of reading by ANdreas Herpaderpalous [03:53]
mircea_popescu (a suka, of course, is one of the criminals that took stalin's deal and went into the army) [03:53]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo he's still twerpin' dat ass ? [03:54]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He has his own startup nao and every press release I get that feeling like I need to run to the hospital and get an ultrasound on my scrotum again (to bee fair it feels good man [03:56]
assbot Feels good man) - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( ) [03:56]
mircea_popescu i hadn't seen anything from him in a while, assumed i musta killed him or something. [03:57]
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mircea_popescu mebbe intel just didn't figure he matters enough to mention anymoar. [03:57]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He runs a startup nao called "Third Key Solutions" that serves other startups who wish to take on all the counterparty risk [03:58]
mircea_popescu aaaaite... [03:58]
mircea_popescu what happeend to his hot o'reilly deal to become the blockchain technology's steve jobbs ? [03:59]
BingoBoingo It happened. He has his book [03:59]
mircea_popescu got dropped like a hot potato or something ? [03:59]
mircea_popescu heh. [03:59]
BingoBoingo It apparently is still a book... just... [03:59]
BingoBoingo I mean he signed with O'Reilly, not the huns [04:01]
mircea_popescu lol [04:02]
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cazalla copypaste, play much? [04:07]
copypaste too much. [04:07]
copypaste i love it [04:07]
mircea_popescu whassat ? [04:08]
cazalla yeah same, i pitched it to these goys here but no interest [04:08]
copypaste i like you cazalla. I'm amazed anyone here ven knew who I was [04:08]
copypaste I just wanted to be someone in Bitcoin and took Mircea's advice :p [04:08]
BingoBoingo copypaste: I had no idea you were you until dat key [04:09]
cazalla you're like the new moot, the luke skywalker of chans who hopefully won't join the dark side like darth moot and get cucked same time [04:09]
copypaste moot is a pussy. can't believe he quit [04:09]
copypaste how low can you go really [04:09]
mircea_popescu o.O [04:10]
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mircea_popescu i thought i had a speshul place in cazalla's heart! [04:10]
cazalla of course you do but i spent most of my time on 4chan prior to finding this place so ya know [04:11]
mircea_popescu lol [04:11]
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BingoBoingo copypaste: You know... in your next Conde Naste interview you have to mention this place as the center of Bitcoin and blacklist them when they leave that part out. [04:13]
mircea_popescu by the way, 2011 article re the fiat world wot. [04:15]
assbot Cine conduce lumea ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [04:15]
copypaste BingoBoingo: I'll do my best. Journalists are notorious for ignoring half of what I say. [04:17]
copypaste I gave Ars very strict rules for interviewing me. [04:17]
copypaste That's why it went well. [04:17]
copypaste Gawker also contacted me. I sent them the same rules and never heard back. lmao [04:17]
mircea_popescu i usually just tell them to show up here. [04:17]
BingoBoingo copypaste: Thing is as you build power your rules will only get stricter [04:17]
mircea_popescu i don't believe in talking privately to people i don't personally know. [04:17]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: And is that not a rule? [04:20]
mircea_popescu so it is. [04:20]
BingoBoingo Anyways 11 year plan is going well, arranged a sparring partner for tomorrow. [04:22]
cazalla for reals? [04:22]
mircea_popescu "To our son, his excellency, Mr Barack Hussein Obama. I have said to you before, that even if Libya and the United States of America enter into a war, god forbid, you will always remain a son. Your picture will not be changed." [04:22]
cazalla i use to box ya know, and kick box [04:23]
mircea_popescu ahh ghadafi was such a master of the lulz. [04:23]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Yeah, Iron pole in the backyard that at one point in history held the clothesline [04:23]
mircea_popescu you gonna spar with a pole ?! [04:24]
cazalla copypaste, this voz clan teaming up bullshit has me raging against agario tbh [04:24]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: 11 year plan. 29 now figure 40 I'll be ready to risk death in a ring [04:25]
BingoBoingo Gotta learn to jab. [04:25]
mircea_popescu just hang a bag like normal people. poles don't work [04:25]
BingoBoingo Gotta preak the metacarpals a bit to get them to heal stronger. Pole seems like an ideal target. As long as I don't break any bones all the way. [04:26]
mircea_popescu no dude. get a bag, srsly. [04:28]
BingoBoingo Alright. [04:28]
copypaste cazalla: yeah HKG is bullshit too. [04:29]
copypaste It sucks even more that we have terrible lag to all the good servers. [04:29]
copypaste The new teams mode makes it sort of bearable amusingly. Because you can't pick your team, Voz has no power. [04:29]
copypaste The Asia servers still suck ass though. [04:30]
cazalla BingoBoingo, 12 months and you're set [04:31]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: Nah, I drink and smoke. A decade sounds reasonable. [04:32]
cazalla copypaste, oceanic servers are generally ok from australia, i'd say lag is around 100-150ms [04:32]
cazalla and the new team mode is useless as people don't want to team up to face other teams, they're all asian and want to gang up on 1 person [04:33]
cazalla BingoBoingo, as much as i hate ciggs, the drinking is prob worse [04:34]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: Only one way to find out. [04:35]
cazalla i'd stop drinking but then i'd need another vice [04:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110800 @ 0.00026443 = 29.2988 BTC [+] [04:37]
BingoBoingo Who honestly couldn't use another vice [04:37]
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asciilifeform mats: the interesting part is that floppy controller in qemu and derived proggies is enabled -even if you don't use floppy option.- [12:20]
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asciilifeform mats: from the 'hackernews' thread, 'Why indeed. In fact we tried to remove the FDC, but Windows needs it in order to do certain operations like installing some drivers, so there was resistance there.' [12:20]
asciilifeform ( ) [12:20]
assbot VENOM – A security vulnerability in virtual floppy drive code | Hacker News ... ( ) [12:20]
mircea_popescu << i concur. fluffsy is STILL stubbornly not showing it off here, so i figure i'll give it moar time [12:21]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 08:56:30; copypaste: Don't have much faith in it but it's the only one that's even remotely promising [12:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform iirc, "flopyy" ness is an arbitrary bit. you can set bios to think usb as floppies if you wish. [12:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: code in question concerned an emulated traditional floppy controller (the kind you gave sectors, tracks, etc) [12:23]
copypaste 09:12:42 +cazalla nice team eh [12:23]
assbot About - ... ( ) [12:23]
copypaste they can't even use their CMS properly. [12:23]
copypaste "about-" [12:23]
copypaste What's with the -? [12:23]
asciilifeform intel 82072A etc. [12:23]
copypaste I'm supposed to trust these twerps with anything? [12:23]
asciilifeform << him [12:23]
assbot Floppy Disk Controller - OSDev Wiki ... ( ) [12:23]
copypaste Man. What a waste [12:23]
copypaste You get this greaet domain, [12:23]
copypaste And then you put your about page as "about-" [12:24]
mircea_popescu lol who the fuck are these derps ? [12:24]
mircea_popescu copypaste < it loads normally too. [12:24]
assbot About - ... ( ) [12:24]
copypaste Ah, okay. [12:24]
mircea_popescu lol so garza bought and is now leasing it to random derps ? mkay. [12:25]
copypaste Looks like it [12:25]
copypaste This is basically a domain squatter landing page except with a little more effort [12:26]
mircea_popescu pretty much. [12:26]
copypaste [12:26]
assbot What is Bitcoin? - ... ( ) [12:26]
mircea_popescu lol [12:26]
copypaste > what-is-bitcoin-2 > -2 [12:26]
copypaste I can't handle tihs. [12:26]
mircea_popescu a little more effort, a lot more lulz. [12:26]
mircea_popescu garza delivers yet again [12:26]
asciilifeform plenty of wank in the thread re: 'amazon' et al. having been told of the hole long before public [12:27]
mircea_popescu copypaste the -2 is there because [12:27]
copypaste He puts "What is bitcion?" and "What is blockchain?" separately, as if they're different [12:27]
asciilifeform and 'For many of the affected virtualization products, a virtual floppy drive is added to new virtual machines by default. And on Xen and QEMU, even if the administrator explicitly disables the virtual floppy drive, an unrelated bug causes the vulnerable FDC code to remain active and exploitable by attackers.' [12:27]
mircea_popescu bitcion ? srsly ? [12:27]
asciilifeform 'bug' ahahaha. [12:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform aws can definitely not be part of our canonical stuff huh. [12:28]
asciilifeform not aws-specific [12:28]
mircea_popescu i kinda use aws as i use xerorx [12:29]
asciilifeform virtually -all- 'cloud' bullshit affected. [12:29]
mircea_popescu right. [12:29]
asciilifeform and there is a bottomless mine of cruft where this came from [12:29]
asciilifeform the 'unrelated bug causes vulnerable code to remain active' thing very much smacks of 'he fell onto the knife ten times' [12:30]
asciilifeform 'shot himself in the head twice' [12:30]
mircea_popescu no dude it's unrelated. [12:30]
asciilifeform l0l [12:30]
mircea_popescu BECAUSE THEY SAI IT IS! [12:30]
mircea_popescu cazalla: you'd think some people would learn their lesson having dealth with garza in the past but no << understand the rotinculo syndrome. they DO understand, but what exact alternatives they got ? it's either this or go home. they dun wanna go home, apparently there's a famine in hungary. [12:31]
asciilifeform << obligatory [12:31]
assbot Virtualization Security | KernelTrap ... ( ) [12:31]
copypaste The forum is already full of anti-Garza threads [12:31]
assbot Where is Garza? - ... ( ) [12:31]
asciilifeform ^ theo de raadt [12:31]
mircea_popescu "virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits." aha. [12:32]
asciilifeform grep for 'You've been smoking something really mind altering' [12:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the thing is, theo gets it, but is so well fettered with "well meaning" yet "unrelated" idiots he can barely move. [12:33]
mircea_popescu keeping the ants at bay is any serious beetle's full time job. [12:33]
asciilifeform i'm not certain why he is in an anthill to begin with [12:34]
mircea_popescu anthill comes to you. [12:34]
asciilifeform 'fits in head' and 'developers count on fingers on one hand' are good thermonukes against this [12:35]
mircea_popescu by far the most notable point of utility of the wot to brilliant individuals is exactly this : breaks the traditional methods of anthill building. [12:35]
asciilifeform aha. [12:35]
mircea_popescu but you will notice much greater men succumbed to this. it's really how empires end. [12:36]
asciilifeform al schwartz taught it to me as 'the a-students hire the b-students who hire the f-students' [12:36]
mircea_popescu anyway, a good rule of thumb is, when the anon derps start talking about "security benefits", you know what it is. [12:36]
asciilifeform (in american schools, marks range in - descending - from 'a' to 'f') [12:37]
mircea_popescu "obfuscation layer for our lord's holes" [12:37]
asciilifeform usually just blind cargocultism. [12:39]
asciilifeform anal holes, to these folks, happen purely by chance, misfortune. even contemplating the alternative is unbearable cognitive dissonance to them. [12:40]
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mircea_popescu individual ants act in a blind fashion, but the ant layer acts systematically. [12:41]
mircea_popescu there's no requisite for a dram cell to know what it is holding in order for it to be holding it. [12:41]
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mircea_popescu he also has the social skills of a rabid dog. [12:45]
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mircea_popescu ahahaha asciilifeform you read the comments ? [12:59]
mircea_popescu "Anonymous (not verified) OpenBSD still exists? Too bad. The world would be better without security fanboys in general. There is more to the world than security." [12:59]
mircea_popescu "In my opinion, the main reason why Windows is still faster on the desktop is that most of their current GUI framework was built back in the days of Windows 95, and the framework is so fragile that it has stopped them from adding too many new features to bloat it further. Back in 1995, Microsoft was way more performance-conscious than the open source world in 2007, simply because the hardware was orders of magnitude sl [13:02]
mircea_popescu ower." [13:02]
mircea_popescu not a bad point by any means. [13:02]
Naphex For many of the affected virtualization products, a virtual floppy drive is added to new virtual machines by default. And on Xen and QEMU, even if the administrator explicitly disables the virtual floppy drive, an unrelated bug causes the vulnerable FDC code to remain active and exploitable by attackers. [13:04]
Naphex sorry, forgot the quotes [13:04]
Naphex lmao :)) [13:04]
mircea_popescu yeah it's pretty good kek. [13:04]
Naphex floppy drives no longer usefull? turn em into backdoors [13:04]
Naphex doh! [13:04]
mircea_popescu it's very sound, strategically. "who would bother to check" [13:05]
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mircea_popescu o.O [13:18]
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asciilifeform 'who would bother to check' is sop. [13:41]
mats asciilifeform: [13:41]
asciilifeform mats: ick [13:42]
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asciilifeform 'Delusional boot provides a full set of devices with complete functionality to the OS only during the boot process. Later on, it disables the non-critical devices and it replaces the critical ones with a set of barebones virtual devices that only offer common case functionality.' [13:44]
asciilifeform microshit 'research,' what do you expect. [13:44]
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asciilifeform because no one wants to edit ntldr.exe aha. [13:44]
asciilifeform why should anyone outside of idiot microshit take an interest in this [13:45]
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mats heh [13:49]
asciilifeform << obligatory [13:50]
assbot Delusionist ... ( ) [13:50]
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prince_nbingo Dear Sir, can you please tell me where to acquire the bitcoin asses? I have a business proposal for you. I will present you as the beneficiary, and i will prepare all the legal documents and present to the bank on your behalf and the bank will then release and transfer the funds to your designated account. Please to be telling about where are the bitcoin asses, I need bitcoin asses. [13:52]
asciilifeform l0l [13:53]
danielpbarron prince_nbingo, someone with your ip has joined #bitcoin and #bitcoin-dev with the nicknames Skaag and chax. Is that you? [13:54]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu << massive mega-l0l re: pheminisms etc. with commentary [14:00]
gribble The operation succeeded. [14:00]
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mircea_popescu pretty lulzy. [14:02]
asciilifeform exquisitely lulzy. i'd translate if had time. [14:03]
mircea_popescu !up Flerb_ [14:03]
-assbot- You voiced Flerb_ for 30 minutes. [14:03]
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asciilifeform (is dignork still around? perhaps he'd do the deed) [14:03]
mircea_popescu im kinda curious to see what ru/cn feminism wil llook like once that happens. [14:05]
asciilifeform it looks precisely like the imported feedstock. just, no mass uptake [14:06]
asciilifeform because not enough radiation damage yet, or somesuch [14:06]
mircea_popescu i mean once they make their own. [14:06]
mircea_popescu if/when they get rich and successful, they'll have stupid kids. [14:06]
mircea_popescu those stupid kids will rehash the same old stupid, in their own terms, of course. [14:07]
Flerb_ Are most stock exchanges using bitcoin regulated properly? [14:07]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: presently, the stupid rich kids do tour of duty in the west [14:07]
mircea_popescu Flerb_ [14:07]
assbot You're gonna have to learn that variety speak on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [14:07]
asciilifeform and walk through the traditional western idiocies, and attempt to import [14:07]
mircea_popescu no actual elite kids i met did that. [14:08]
mircea_popescu the aspies do it, of course, but they don't matter from what i've seen. [14:08]
mircea_popescu aspie [ short for aspirational ] would roughly be what they called "burgeois intellectuals" a century ago. [14:08]
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Flerb_ Whatever happened to ASICminer, they were around when I last looked at bitcoin stuff. [14:09]
funkenstein_ <-- seems to be making the rounds in the disinfo sphere [14:09]
assbot Bizarre fake police force included Kamala Harris aide, prosecutors say - LA Times ... ( ) [14:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what is the 'actual elite' in question ? [14:10]
asciilifeform romanov nephews ? [14:10]
asciilifeform stalin's grand-daughter ? [14:11]
asciilifeform everybody else - 'aspirational' no ? [14:11]
mircea_popescu no. [14:11]
mircea_popescu every KGB officer has kids, right ? [14:11]
asciilifeform aha and most of'em are schmucks like anybody else [14:11]
mircea_popescu maybe it's a pov artifact. [14:12]
asciilifeform ? [14:12]
mircea_popescu the only ru kids i know that actually go for the entire western fucktardation are kids who got overeducated by mistake, but definitely have no chance in hell of ever sitting at the table. [14:14]
mircea_popescu so it's kind-of natural and meaningless that they'd go for it. [14:14]
mircea_popescu then again, i don't know that many ru kids, and so... might just be my narrow viewpoint [14:14]
asciilifeform the thing is, usg had roughly same relation with ru elite as brits had with india [14:14]
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mircea_popescu possibru [14:15]
asciilifeform in that 'cream' of kids would go to oxbridge, harvaprinceyaleton, etc [14:15]
asciilifeform mandatorily [14:15]
asciilifeform (hostage and cultural zombiefodder) [14:15]
mircea_popescu they mostly go to fuck the stupid anglo bitches, from what i can tell. [14:15]
mircea_popescu much like the arabs. [14:15]
asciilifeform from their pov - aha [14:15]
asciilifeform but western sahib says 'want imf credit? be gentleman - and gentlemen send sons to oxbridge' [14:16]
asciilifeform so rajah - sends son. [14:16]
mircea_popescu except russia doesn't want imf credit, for one ; and the gentleman can have a lot of sons. [14:16]
mircea_popescu anyway, this entire "send kids to oxbridge" meme is very novel, and it comes off the same trunk that made the "buy uk football teams". [14:17]
asciilifeform today, less of this, yes [14:17]
asciilifeform this was mainly a '90s thing [14:18]
mircea_popescu right. [14:18]
asciilifeform when the sahib-rajah-coolie relationship was going strong [14:18]
mircea_popescu no, not exactly. when the exploratory boom was at its peak. [14:18]
mircea_popescu the way people explored new bushes 50k years ago was sent children to eat them, see if they die. [14:18]
mircea_popescu the way people explore new bushes today is, send kids over, see what happens. [14:19]
mircea_popescu thisis why people even have kids in the first place. [14:19]
asciilifeform unrelated >> << 'sommeliers' [14:19]
assbot VOGONS • View topic - Bought these (retro) hardware today ... ( ) [14:19]
asciilifeform (from mircea_popescu's link the other day) [14:19]
asciilifeform e.g., that 'works' microcomputer thing looks considerably more usable than any modern 'tablet' gizmo. [14:20]
asciilifeform betcha those keys are nearly adult size [14:20]
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asciilifeform 'While x86 hardware has the same page-protection hardware that an IBM 390 architecture machine has, modern PC machines are a mess. They are architecturally so dirty, that parts of the video, keyboard, and other IO devices are interfaced with even to do simple things like context switching processes and handling interrupts. Those of us who have experience with the gory bits of the x86 architecture can clearly say that we know [14:33]
asciilifeform what would be involved in virtualizing it, and if it was so simple, we would not still be fixing bugs in the exact same area in our operating system going on 12 years.' [14:33]
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asciilifeform (theo de raadt, of course) [14:34]
mircea_popescu ah, the great days from before osama had sunk the us. back when ibm was actually making business machines. [14:35]
asciilifeform even the laptops were spiffy [14:35]
mircea_popescu os/390, then z/ system. which was... 15 years ago. [14:35]
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* mircea_popescu recalls the 31/32 bit thing could actually address an infinity of memory, in 2gb slicesa [14:36]
mircea_popescu and that was what, 1992 ? [14:36]
asciilifeform ^ boxes where you could pull out just about -any- component and replace, without stopping or so much as pausing, work [14:36]
mircea_popescu ayup. [14:36]
asciilifeform high-end versions, iirc, had tandem-voting circuit [14:36]
* asciilifeform recommends 'inside the as/400' (frank soltis) re: ibm design 'philosophy' in practice [14:39]
asciilifeform fun little b00k [14:39]
asciilifeform << unrelated [14:40]
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mircea_popescu "Like so many, I planned to do many things with this. But I never had the time. Now I don't have the ideas, either." [14:43]
mircea_popescu heh [14:43]
asciilifeform 'when the output actually mattered: the bygone era of dependable computing' (book does not exist, aborted project of mine) [14:44]
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asciilifeform << further 'sommelier' pr0n [14:47]
assbot ... ( ) [14:47]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo ^ [14:47]
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trinque << what are the removable cards? [14:48]
assbot ... ( ) [14:48]
trinque blades? [14:48]
trinque or is that one machine [14:48]
asciilifeform of course 1 machine [14:49]
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asciilifeform likely, memory (or even cpu subcomponents) [14:49]
trinque ah [14:49]
trinque I was wondering if I'd run across yet another thing that'd been done far earlier than I thought. [14:49]
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trinque asciilifeform: what do you think of a future cardano having two USB storage devices instead of one? [14:58]
trinque I was thinking you could connect two systems this way and still consider them gapped [14:58]
asciilifeform wat [14:58]
asciilifeform why?! [14:59]
trinque gpg encrypted file goes into one of the storage devices, gets decrypted and written to the other device [14:59]
trinque because then I could control something connected to a computer remotely, and be sure that the machine controlling it was only accepting data from me [15:00]
trinque or so the idiot claims [15:00]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That indigo is a good looking machine [15:11]
ben_vulpes anyway, this entire "send kids to oxbridge" meme is very novel, and it comes off the same trunk that made the "buy uk football teams". << i've always planned to hire tutors. [15:12]
asciilifeform trinque: air-gapped means just that [15:15]
asciilifeform sneakernet. [15:15]
asciilifeform anything else - call it something else [15:15]
trinque granted [15:15]
asciilifeform it means that you actually look at each parcel that moves. [15:15]
trinque probably can't do that with your remote controlled blimp's controls [15:16]
asciilifeform however, a communication device which only carries signed payloads, would potentially be useful. [15:17]
asciilifeform (well, -receives- signed payloads from signatures in known set) [15:17]
asciilifeform reduces, in the end, to 'gossipd' [15:17]
trinque ah yeah, you're right [15:18]
trinque secure messaging solves the thing [15:18]
trinque well [15:19]
trinque reduces to a gossipd device maybe [15:19]
trinque the aspect of the membrane being implemented in hardware is appealing [15:19]
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thestringpuller in this room full of nerds, interesting comics are rarely discussed [15:24]
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lobbes << wai wat? wow, first taxes on deposits and now this? I'm learning new sad facts about Australia everyday [15:26]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 06:18:53; cazalla: well australian government says women can't squirt, doesn't exist and is in fact pissing and urination porn is forbidden [15:26]
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mircea_popescu tbh, most of the "squirting" porn is actually urination. [15:33]
mircea_popescu not that women can't do it, but it's an intensive thing and the atmosphere on a porn set is not exactly conducive. [15:33]
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mircea_popescu lol jgarzik has a point. the difference between krugman and kaminska is slight at best. i'm not even sure what exactly it would be, specifically. [15:39]
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mircea_popescu o.O [15:49]
mircea_popescu !rate gavinandresen -10 Perennial Bitcoin lolcow and ex USG asset. [15:50]
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trinque [16:16]
assbot Obama Dismisses The Wealthy As 'Society's Lottery Winners' | The Daily Caller ... ( ) [16:16]
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lobbes 'There’s a fairness issue involved here.' << there's that 'fair' trope again [16:21]
lobbes whatever happened to 'life isn't fair'? [16:21]
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chetty fair is the one word I might agree should be banned [16:22]
trinque the practical meaning these days is "we're going to beat more handouts out of the wealthy" [16:24]
trinque world's upside down [16:24]
trinque no need to ban the word though; bitcoin will reduce it to ridicule [16:28]
trinque "fair" may be one of the most narcissistic concepts in American "thinking" [16:29]
trinque that no matter the game, there is always an authority with the power to render it fair [16:29]
trinque whether this is life and death or the cost of your tank of gas [16:30]
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trinque it's easy to see that a culture which even considers "fair" a thing runs the risk of totalitarianism [16:30]
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trinque << "The Saudis feared if we knew we would pressure the Pakistanis to let bin Laden start talking to us about what the Saudis had been doing with al-Qaida. And they were dropping money – lots of it." [16:59]
assbot Seymour M. Hersh · The Killing of Osama bin Laden · LRB 21 May 2015 ... ( ) [16:59]
trinque "Both services often find it useful to engage in public feuds ‘to cover their asses’, as the retired official put it, but they continually share intelligence used for drone attacks, and co-operate on covert operations." [17:00]
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jurov [17:11]
assbot Britain is too tolerant and should interfere more in people's lives, says David Cameron - UK Politics - UK - The Independent [17:11]
jurov “For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',” [17:11]
jurov to cry, or to laugh? [17:11]
trinque The package of powers, first proposed in March, would allow courts to force a person to send their tweets and Facebook posts to the police for approval. [17:13]
trinque ahhahahaha [17:13]
trinque jurov: I'm going with laugh [17:13]
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trinque they're children; even their totalitarian day-dreams amount to "uh uh you can't tweet mean things about us!" [17:15]
trinque << seems the equalitarian president can't acknowledge what an insult it is for the king to send his inferiors to meet him [17:17]
assbot Obama meets two Saudi princes after King sent regrets [17:18]
trinque "The president called Saudi Arabia a critical partner in the fight against Islamic State militants." << yes, I suppose making sure ISIS exists is critical to the fight against ISIS. [17:19]
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trinque t4nk: you're polluting the channel with joins and quits; kindly cut it out. [17:25]
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Naphex trinque: man you deserve op status, maybe you can kick one or two :)) [17:29]
Naphex that kindly asking for stuff is so weka [17:29]
Naphex weak even [17:29]
trinque eh I don't know about "deserve" [17:30]
trinque could probably be solved with some assbottery [17:31]
kakobrekla myea [17:31]
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* trinque turns those off [17:32]
kakobrekla its a blessing. [17:32]
trinque much better [17:33]
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jurov imo this is UI issue, irc clients should be able to maybe fold/unfold this, or filter repeated lines [17:53]
jurov kicking people should be absolutely last resort [17:54]
jurov poor Vexual now sitting every day outside before the gate, if someone drops a word or a bone [17:56]
kakobrekla you want him back? [17:57]
kakobrekla !unrate vexual [17:57]
assbot vexual is not registered in WoT. [17:57]
jurov but he's permabanned, too? [17:58]
kakobrekla eh? [17:58]
jurov he can be !upped normally? [17:58]
kakobrekla i don't see a reason why not. [17:59]
jurov aha [17:59]
jurov then maybe he prefers interviewing folks individually [18:02]
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kakobrekla [18:15]
assbot ... ( ) [18:15]
asciilifeform ahahahahaha. [18:19]
asciilifeform what mircea_popescu said ~1.5 yrs ago. [18:19]
asciilifeform (usg miners) [18:19]
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asciilifeform << unrelated l0l [18:28]
assbot Southern California Business Raided Over Alleged Altcoin Gambling ... ( ) [18:28]
asciilifeform re: l0ltr0n1cs: today i found out that ed felten (formerly 'freedom to tinker' blog, lawsuits against riaa, etc.) has been a usg stooge for several years now. [18:31]
asciilifeform and just accepted yet a new job from obamitler himself [18:32]
asciilifeform and that 'freedom to tinker' now hosts things like [18:32]
assbot Bitcoin faces a crossroads, needs an effective decision-making process ... ( ) [18:32]
asciilifeform written by random bozos [18:32]
asciilifeform sic transit gloria mundi (tm) [18:32]
asciilifeform << reported in some rag [18:33]
assbot White House appoints NSA-criticizing computer scientist Ed Felten to key post | VentureBeat | Security | by Dylan Tweney ... ( ) [18:33]
asciilifeform spun, of course, as a 'concession to critics' - naturally [18:33]
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asciilifeform 'As deputy, Felten will report to former Google exec Megan Smith, the recently named White House CTO.' [18:34]
asciilifeform ^ for extra lulz [18:34]
trinque that's forward thinking of the white house! [18:34]
trinque female cto, how bout that [18:34]
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asciilifeform l0lward [18:34]
trinque later they'll say they "embraced the debate" by hiring him [18:36]
asciilifeform this fella used to be the 'genuine article' [18:36]
trinque (tightly enough to choke it out) [18:36]
asciilifeform was a genuine annoyance to usg, in the courts, press, net [18:36]
asciilifeform what kind of pill was used - i do not know. [18:37]
asciilifeform now his old www is full of gavincoin shilling etc. [18:38]
asciilifeform and articles like this, which is a kind of 'mouse poison' in the sense that it combines perfectly valid observation 'don't use random bozo's java crypto turd' with 'one time pads cannot work' [18:41]
assbot Be wary of one-time pads and other crypto unicorns ... ( ) [18:41]
asciilifeform tasty bait, a little bit of poison - perfect recipe, every exterminator knows [18:41]
jurov well, it's more common than you think. had i myself not been here, i'd be easily swayed for an "opportunity to change things" [18:43]
asciilifeform jurov: sure [18:45]
asciilifeform jurov: and money (yes, the rotten greenback fiat kind) works wonders. [18:45]
* asciilifeform once starved long enough that he applied to work at old classic nsa [18:45]
danielpbarron !up maxwell__ [18:46]
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asciilifeform re: '21' etc >> 'The cornerstone of the strategy as presented would have been the release of consumer products that would turn power from wall sockets into bitcoin through the widespread dissemination of bitcoin mining chips.' << -somebody- clearly reads the 2013 #b-a logs. [18:46]
asciilifeform 'Also included in the overview is an email exchange allegedly taking place between Comcast West Coast strategic development managing director Francisco Varela and 21 CEO Matt Pauker in which the cable giant exec evaluates how its customers could benefit from participating in 21’s bitcoin mining operations.' << aha, cable boxes. [18:47]
jurov they would have hard time to rationalize the money if it was not connected to some do-gooding, moving and shaking [18:47]
asciilifeform 'According to the overview, the BitSplit chip's key innovation was intended to be a hardcoded bitcoin wallet address that would give the user 25% of mining proceeds, with the remaining 75% going to 21. Each device would be built with target applications in mind that would then allow consumers to, in theory, spend any bitcoin earned for online content or digital services.' [18:47]
asciilifeform jurov: that's for folks with choices. at the time i would've taken a job filleting the last remaining pandas with knives made from baby bones [18:48]
asciilifeform 'By the time its chips were to be embedded into Internet of Things (IoT) devices, 21 projected its cost to produce 1 BTC could be as low as $7.45.' << somebody does not grasp difficulty factor ? [18:49]
jurov ah, i forget in murica it's impossible to have own roof in few years [18:49]
trinque lol, the houses around here are half a million or more [18:49]
trinque give up [18:49]
trinque at least for strong definitions of "own roof" [18:50]
maxwell__ danielpbarron: hi [18:50]
maxwell__ sup [18:50]
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asciilifeform 'In the example, one user is able to use his BTC to skip 15 minutes of commercials on online video service Hulu.' << this is just too many lulz [18:51]
asciilifeform essentially, they wanted to pocket 100% of the miner output while throwing occasional bones to the idiot chumpers [18:51]
asciilifeform it'll work, too [18:51]
trinque so being a part of the NSA botnet goes from top secret to productized [18:52]
trinque brilliant [18:52]
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asciilifeform trinque: they read the 2013 #b-a log and accepted mircea_popescu's assertion that they will have problems keeping mining secret [18:52]
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asciilifeform but took everything else and ran with it [18:52]
danielpbarron i posted a comment to that freedom to tinker thing a couple days ago; it didn't get approved [18:53]
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danielpbarron maxwell, you are mxtm, yes? [18:53]
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asciilifeform incidentally, this is an ancient idea: [18:56]
assbot Halfbakery: broadcast cryptanalysis ... ( ) [18:56]
pete_dushenski << i wouldn't particularly count on it. [18:56]
asciilifeform long pre-dates bitcoin. [18:56]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 21:47:09; asciilifeform: it'll work, too [18:56]
pete_dushenski it's like the smartwatch idea. [18:56]
trinque asciilifeform: I'd expect some broken off appendage of the NSA to accumulate a sizable stash of coin even if the rest of the USG falls apart [18:56]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: why not? classic, grade-a chumpatron. the actual costs (mains power) are 100% externalized to the chumps. [18:56]
asciilifeform it is precisely the kind of scam which has endurance. [18:57]
pete_dushenski because a few 'early adopters' will jump on board, burn their houses down, and the thing'll fizzle out [18:57]
pete_dushenski having 10 appliances running full-steam 24-7 will cost $1000/mo in electricity [18:57]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: burn their houses down how? these won't be packaged as traditional miners, recall. it'll be in cable boxes, etc. that folks get 1 or 2 of [18:58]
trinque so you just end up with a cryptoturd chip built into the intel processors, and you can't get other processors [18:58]
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asciilifeform and ^ [18:58]
pete_dushenski i doubt even 25% of mining profits will cover the electricity costs. [18:58]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: the beauty is that no one will ask the chump if he wants to cover the costs [18:58]
asciilifeform it'll be in his cable box, tv, etc. whether he likes, or not [18:58]
trinque what consumer asks whats in his wifi router? [18:58]
trinque yeah [18:58]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: burn down from having flammables near cable boxes, toasters, etc ? [18:58]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: no more than today [18:59]
trinque and if you really need to ram it through, attach it to some "cybersecurity" bill [18:59]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it'll be in his cable box, and if he doesn't like it, he will have to quit tv [18:59]
trinque state-sanctioned crypto chip that happens to be able to mine [18:59]
asciilifeform see the 'halfbakery' link, quite the same idea. [18:59]
asciilifeform circa 2000 [18:59]
pete_dushenski by the time they roll these out and get them into any appreciable number of homes, it'll look like trying to fight the nazis by arming every american with slingshots [18:59]
pete_dushenski "but if we have ENOUGH slingshots and they're government mandated" [19:00]
trinque eh I don't know about that [19:00]
trinque I'd like to think it, of course. [19:00]
pete_dushenski "and if no one has a choice" [19:00]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: the only actual problem they will have is fighting over the coin itself. [19:00]
pete_dushenski trinque: then think it :D [19:00]
asciilifeform every other cost of the plan is externalized to captive idiots [19:00]
asciilifeform for non-u.s. folks - if you subscribe to cable tv, you get the mandatory box. no choice about it. [19:01]
asciilifeform ditto local net pipe monopolies/duopolies [19:01]
pete_dushenski ok, so mebbe it doesn't burn houses down, and mebbe everyone has a half dozen of these chips wedged into their various appliances... [19:02]
asciilifeform the added cost, of the hardware, is negligible [19:02]
pete_dushenski i just don't seeing it mattering! [19:02]
jurov afaik it's so everywhere, nobody does streaming available for own hardware, i have asked [19:02]
pete_dushenski these things will hash like 500 mh/s [19:02]
trinque one must beware declaring victory early [19:02]
jurov "content protection" (from customer, i guess) [19:03]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: depends on what you think of as 'matters' [19:03]
asciilifeform e.g., does it matter if usg becomes largest hash force ? [19:03]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: mattering to hashrate, mattering to bitcoin. [19:03]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: sure, but this is hardly the way to go about it. even if it's all they've got left. [19:04]
asciilifeform after this, the natural thing to do from hitler's point of view is - to go after conventional miners [19:04]
pete_dushenski trinque: bitcoin declares victory until proven otherwise ;) [19:04]
asciilifeform extralegally, if necessary [19:04]
pete_dushenski it's equally likely that 'conventional miners' will begin to curry favour with local governments [19:05]
asciilifeform in usa, police raids for 'house was hot, you must have been growing dope' [19:05]
asciilifeform abroad - 'gas main exploded, sorry' [19:05]
trinque pete_dushenski: the declaration of a thing is not what makes it so [19:05]
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asciilifeform pete_dushenski: -this- is what 'currying favour with governments' looks like [19:05]
pete_dushenski actually, sane local govs are undoubtedly already currying favour with miners [19:05]
cazalla <<< nope, he's banned/exiled [19:06]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 20:58:30; jurov: then maybe he prefers interviewing folks individually [19:06]
trinque [19:06]
assbot Emperor Norton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [19:06]
jurov cazalla how? [19:06]
pete_dushenski trinque: depends entirely who it is making the declarative statements. [19:06]
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pete_dushenski random derp =! bitcoin [19:07]
cazalla jurov, because we don't tolerate drunken behaviour around these parts! [19:07]
jurov who "we"? [19:07]
jurov what if it do tolerate? [19:07]
jurov *what if I do tolerate? [19:07]
asciilifeform jurov: he's in your l1 and still can't talk ? [19:07]
cazalla now as much as i love the ol' Vexual, i admit he does like to chat a lot and often makes no sense but by banning him, we now get to enjoy it on a more personal level via pm :P [19:08]
trinque pete_dushenski: "bitcoin is bitcoin" has no tactical content [19:08]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: the stupid ones. the govs intent on slitting their own throats, sure. [19:08]
trinque of course bitcoin is bitcoin [19:08]
trinque and water is water [19:08]
pete_dushenski bitcoin, tmsr~ [19:08]
trinque what's done with either, who owns it, is the meat [19:08]
asciilifeform jurov: you could rate him and he could then speak, no ? [19:09]
jurov asciilifeform yes that's what i'm asking. [19:09]
jurov now it's answered [19:09]
asciilifeform as far as i can tell, he isn't even in the new wot [19:09]
cazalla channel ban list is there for all to see anyway so why ask me [19:10]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: usg is correctly leveraging its only strengths - subterfuge, on captive audiences, backed by threat of brute force [19:10]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: so let's do the math. [19:11]
pete_dushenski let's say that these things are hashing at even 1 gh/s [19:11]
pete_dushenski and that they manage to deploy 10 mn units within 12 months from today. [19:12]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: let's imagine that the only participating firm is comcast [19:12]
pete_dushenski ok. [19:12]
pete_dushenski does that change the 10 mn figure ? [19:12]
asciilifeform according to 'bloomberg', 22 mil. as of feb '15 [19:12]
asciilifeform and that's -subscribers- [19:12]
asciilifeform many have >1 box [19:12]
pete_dushenski ok, so half of all subscribers in first year, one box per. aggressive but let's try it out. [19:13]
asciilifeform (modem, multiple tv tuner boxen, etc) [19:13]
asciilifeform ok [19:13]
pete_dushenski so by this time in 2016 the usg has 10 mn gh/s at its disposal. [19:13]
trinque no. [19:13]
pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats [19:14]
gribble Current Blocks: 356304 | Current Difficulty: 4.7643398017803444E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 356831 | Next Difficulty In: 527 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48563574149.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.93138 [19:14]
trinque they have that plus every computer they already had at their disposal [19:14]
asciilifeform why half? they upgrade codecs, 'new signal is not compatible,' want cable - gotta accept (phree!!111!!) new box. [19:14]
asciilifeform 100%. [19:14]
asciilifeform and they can do this as often as they want [19:14]
pete_dushenski ;;nethash [19:14]
gribble 366925659.104 [19:14]
asciilifeform and who said just 1 chip per box [19:14]
asciilifeform why not 20 [19:14]
asciilifeform it's claiming 0.22watt/GH [19:14]
asciilifeform what, can't add 5W to box ? [19:14]
asciilifeform customers will quit tv? [19:15]
asciilifeform i can even see the cable becoming 'phreee' [19:15]
trinque who will claim the NSA doesn't already have a metric shitload of potential hashing power to apply to this problem? [19:15]
trinque the consumer product could just be cover for it [19:15]
asciilifeform trinque: the elegance is that nothing is kept secret [19:15]
trinque well what I'm saying is they do both [19:15]
asciilifeform there are no shadowy factories [19:15]
pete_dushenski best usb miner i recall was, what, 3 gh/s, maybe 5 gh/s [19:15]
trinque asciilifeform: sure "oh this is all from those newfangled crypto boxes" [19:16]
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pete_dushenski so ok let's go with 20 gh/s per box, just for shits and giggles. [19:16]
trinque and they start using their SSL chewing boxes, or what have you [19:16]
asciilifeform trinque: it'll be a great 'hash laundry' yes [19:16]
trinque the idea that the whole USG is the decrepit post office is laughable [19:16]
pete_dushenski then we're at 200 mn gh/s in a year from now. [19:17]
asciilifeform trinque: i said precisely this, in '13 [19:17]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: and what other player will catch up with this, do you suppose, and how ? [19:17]
trinque people would like it to be so [19:17]
trinque better if goliath has bad knees or whatever [19:17]
trinque as people would like their declarations alone to move reality [19:17]
pete_dushenski let's say hashrate increases 3-fold in next 12 months and we see that 200 mn gh/s is... [19:18]
pete_dushenski ;;calc 366*3/200 [19:18]
gribble 5.49 [19:18]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: what is the basis for this prediction ? [19:18]
trinque it's worth noting that anyone making declarations that come true is using his *power* to make them so [19:18]
trinque not his magic words [19:18]
pete_dushenski ;;calc 1/5.49*100 [19:18]
gribble 18.2149362477 [19:18]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i meant, for the prediction of increase [19:18]
pete_dushenski so the usg'd have 18% in this scenario. [19:18]
danielpbarron can't it only end up benefitting bitcoin to have more hashing power? (regardless of who is adding it?) [19:19]
trinque danielpbarron: not if it's all remotely diddlable [19:19]
danielpbarron what is to diddle? is block valid or isn't it? [19:19]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: basis is 1/10 of increase of 2014. seems reasonable to me. [19:19]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: not if 51%, or 51% with a few helpers, or if all put to gavincoin, or, or.. [19:19]
danielpbarron who cares if put to gavincoin; I won't buy them [19:20]
asciilifeform price will be waterfalled up [19:21]
asciilifeform possibly even pegged to usd. [19:21]
danielpbarron doesn't that ultimately help bitcoin too? [19:21]
asciilifeform whether one cares - is a matter of taste [19:21]
asciilifeform but let's suppose the conscript miners are for proper btc [19:22]
danielpbarron USG would have to further inflate the dollar to do that [19:22]
asciilifeform the buggers get a seat at the table [19:22]
trinque "victory is inevitable" is what you tell the soldiers, sure [19:22]
asciilifeform see mircea_popescu's essay about 'they are fine with being late to parties, they know they can steal the cake whenever' [19:22]
pete_dushenski in any event, if the usg ends up with 18% of hashrate, albeit briefly, and throwing the kitchen sink at the the thing in the process, it would be about time they did something so productive. [19:22]
trinque that is not how generals speak to each other [19:22]
danielpbarron i thought the point of that essay was that bitcoin is the grand exception -- the cake that can't be taken [19:22]
asciilifeform a good 1/3 of the cake is still sitting on the table [19:23]
pete_dushenski and there's 7 billion mouths who want a bite. [19:24]
danielpbarron i don't have a problem with USG getting 1/3 of all the bitcoin; the can only spend it once [19:24]
trinque of vastly varying sizes [19:24]
pete_dushenski let em fight it out. [19:24]
asciilifeform only a few mouths with teeth [19:24]
trinque ^ [19:24]
pete_dushenski each has 3 teeth, do they share them to make a bigger bite ? [19:24]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu will probably suggest that cn, ru, etc. will follow suit with -their- tv boxes [19:24]
jurov asciilifeform: and where usg gets the extra terawatt? [19:25]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: and would he be wrong ? [19:25]
jurov (10mn appliances *100 watt) [19:25]
asciilifeform jurov: from tv junkies [19:25]
asciilifeform who get it from same place as before [19:25]
jurov but i keep hearing how the grid is in shabby condition [19:25]
asciilifeform (usa is not pegged for generating capacity, though grid is a little strained) [19:25]
danielpbarron the tv box miner must operate at a net loss (i get it the chump bears that cost, but eventually the wealth runs out ie: chump runs out of money) [19:25]
pete_dushenski all i know is that '21 inc' sure as fuck isn't disrupting my sleep ad libitum. [19:26]
asciilifeform shabby condition of transmission lines. but the 5-10W pales in comparison to the seasonal cycle when the ac units switch on [19:26]
asciilifeform and each house eats an extra 5-10kW [19:26]
jurov actually is the 100W heat needs to be A/C'd out, it may end up 300-400watt per one box! [19:26]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: not suggesting that 'something is to be done111!!!111!1' about this [19:26]
asciilifeform but i find it interesting that the buggers read the log and eventually learn something [19:26]
pete_dushenski except "better late than never" isn't in this case. [19:27]
asciilifeform let's suppose 'everyone' - ru, cn - participates. and supposing the 'race is to the swift' - who leads? [19:27]
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danielpbarron 51% attack is the most credible threat, and even then they can't FIATize bitcoin (they can't break the rules) [19:27]
asciilifeform jurov: if they're very creative, they'll have it rolled in with the 'tax-deductible' photovoltaic panel thing [19:28]
pete_dushenski showing up to the train station when the steam engine is but a distant memory and the caboose is over the horizon, with no other train on the schedule, means you either start building your own train (blockchain teckmologee) or you stfu and go back to working the land. [19:28]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: doublespend isn't 'fiatization' ? [19:28]
trinque lol working the land [19:28]
danielpbarron who would accept a transaction from USG ? and why should I feel sorry for them? [19:29]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i'm trying to understand your counter here. is it that usg pocketing the last 1/3 of btc is not annoying? or that double-spends are not a problem ? or... what ? [19:29]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: who leads ? i dunno. doesn't israel have some chip fab facilities ? other than that, china. [19:29]
trinque I understand why people would want to think of the US as this fat, incapable beast that happened as some fluke [19:29]
trinque feels good, gives them what they deserve or whatever [19:29]
asciilifeform trinque: it is simply the largest slave empire in history. sorta like egypt, or inca, with nukes. [19:30]
jurov asciilifeform: either your estimate expects 100W per household, or usd is not getting any significant poiece of cake [19:30]
asciilifeform jurov: why 100W ? [19:30]
jurov 20 chips [19:30]
pete_dushenski ;;calc 0.18*7000000 [19:30]
gribble 1260000 [19:30]
trinque asciilifeform: this is practically the salvation myth [19:30]
trinque bitcoin's here so we can just wait on our salvation [19:30]
trinque I don't buy it for a second. [19:30]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: my counter is that calc ^. so within 100 years, usg is as deadly as pirate or karpeles ! [19:31]
asciilifeform trinque: 'you will wait for the bus for a very long time if you are the driver' [19:31]
trinque yeah [19:31]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: within 100 years, we will -all- be as deadly as pirate... [19:31]
pete_dushenski lol right. [19:32]
danielpbarron his name is trendon shavers [19:32]
mircea_popescu so this stunner chick is working in a clothes shop. one day a guy comes in, goes straight for her, [19:32]
pete_dushenski danielpbarron: well, his slave name... [19:32]
mircea_popescu takes his cock out and asks "you got something to match this ?" [19:32]
mircea_popescu "i'm sorry, we only do adult sizes here." [19:33]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: another problem with the "oh noes usg" card is that, as you well know, it's not monolithic. the infighting over any coins it gets its hands on will be considerable. and divisive. [19:34]
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asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i don't work with 'oh noez', but i like testable hypotheses [19:35]
mircea_popescu << damned straight. lazy, stupid dudes from africa should not get a salary, college degrees and free housing on the grounds that they're black. [19:35]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 19:16:48; lobbes: 'There’s a fairness issue involved here.' << there's that 'fair' trope again [19:35]
mircea_popescu << to putin! [19:37]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 20:07:27; jurov: to cry, or to laugh? [19:37]
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pete_dushenski asciilifeform: here's the test : within 12 months (or 12 years ?), the 'usg' will be unable to double-spend a bitcoin transaction. [19:37]
jurov asciilifeform: sry, my calculation is broken, it is 5W per 20 chips. but with the a/c and other overhead, can still be several times more [19:38]
asciilifeform jurov: so chumper pays more. as he did when he had a crt instead of lcd, etc [19:39]
kakobrekla there is always a chance for double spend, just a matter of how deep [19:39]
jurov i was asking about a grid, not about chumper [19:40]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski how do you imagine you test that ? [19:40]
asciilifeform speaking of which, there's a fella on 'ebay' claiming to sell new, virginal sony 21" trinitrons. [19:40]
mircea_popescu i can make a doublespend right now, what's to keep me ?! [19:40]
mircea_popescu << no it's not! [19:41]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 20:25:33; Naphex: that kindly asking for stuff is so weka [19:41]
asciilifeform jurov: grid isn't pegged. not by a long shot. think of the whole affair as usg imposing a (comparatively, tiny) tax on its subjects with which to buy hash. [19:41]
jurov btw, large lcd eats easily more than classic crt [19:41]
asciilifeform jurov: of same size?! [19:41]
jurov who buys same size??? [19:41]
asciilifeform i've yet to meet a 100-200W lcd [19:41]
asciilifeform of whatever size [19:42]
asciilifeform (my 4 panels together eat about 100.) [19:42]
mircea_popescu << iirc i banned him. [19:42]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 20:54:52; kakobrekla: i don't see a reason why not. [19:42]
kakobrekla weirdo. [19:42]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: ok, then obtaining confirmations for said double-spend transaction ? [19:42]
mircea_popescu kay, lemme figure out how to undo this [19:42]
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kakobrekla my 5 panels eat about 200w it seems [19:45]
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assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 21:27:38; asciilifeform: re: l0ltr0n1cs: today i found out that ed felten (formerly 'freedom to tinker' blog, lawsuits against riaa, etc.) has been a usg stooge for several years now. [19:46]
mircea_popescu oh for crying out loud. [19:47]
mircea_popescu does usg-effective mean "bitcoin needs a decision making process which a) doesn't include mp as we've been pretending was the case all along and b) overrepresents us, as we've idem" ? [19:47]
mircea_popescu fucktards. [19:47]
asciilifeform << this [19:48]
assbot The White House Names Dr. Ed Felten as Deputy U.S. Chief Technology Officer | The White House ... ( ) [19:48]
asciilifeform and before, similar position also there [19:48]
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mircea_popescu aha [19:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform [19:51]
assbot ... ( ) [19:51]
mircea_popescu let's pretend nothing exists because marginal observations by 60s feminists. [19:52]
asciilifeform i bet he doesn't even read it today [19:52]
mircea_popescu the gall. [19:52]
asciilifeform (felten, that is) [19:52]
mircea_popescu i care what he reads like i care what chickens eat. [19:52]
asciilifeform he certainly doesn't write it [19:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: could just as well throw the comment to the chickens then [19:52]
mircea_popescu no. [19:52]
mircea_popescu dja know what stalin's representative told the romanian peace delegation after the war ? [19:52]
asciilifeform ? [19:53]
mircea_popescu "where the fuck is the comment!" [19:53]
mircea_popescu it's not like, oh, i need something from him. i don't. he needs shit from me, in the future, and he won't get it, and the reason is exactly right here. [19:54]
mircea_popescu he can sort it out for himself. [19:54]
asciilifeform what is it that he will need ? [19:54]
mircea_popescu well, the romanians needed a peace that didn't consist of rape. [19:55]
mircea_popescu he will presumably need the same. [19:55]
mircea_popescu it's what the defeated side usually needs. [19:55]
scoopbot_revived Four Australians Among 21 Arrested For Firearm Purchases [19:56]
asciilifeform l0l, au doesn't xray at customs or post office ? [19:57]
asciilifeform it is well-known that usg does. and that no such item makes it out of usa via the post unless usg wills it. [19:57]
cazalla not when they're the ones sending them [19:57]
asciilifeform ^ [19:58]
mircea_popescu heh [19:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform apparently there's no russian note of this, at least on the web i see, but anyway : when patrascanu & co went to moscow to try and work out an armistice, molotov broke the drone with a very pointed "ce ati cautat la stalingrad ?" [20:00]
mircea_popescu ie, da fuck were you doing at stalingrad. [20:00]
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asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i am still curious re: your hypothesis. was it that usg will not claim the remaining unmined btc, or that it doing so is uninteresting to us ? [20:03]
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pete_dushenski asciilifeform: hm i guess my hypothesis is that usg won't claim enough of remaining unmined btc to throw a wrench in the individual sovereignty of those in #b-a. [20:07]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: << ripped out of google bookturd [20:08]
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danielpbarron >> i was so brainwashed i though i was a piece of trash for being a trans male. i thought i was a "demi-poly-sexual, grey-gyno-romantic, self-diagnosed autistic felinekin". i actually thought this to be true. [20:09]
assbot truscum ... ( ) [20:09]
pete_dushenski !up wao [20:09]
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wao wut [20:09]
wao why me? [20:09]
wao but thanks anyway [20:09]
wao ) [20:09]
pete_dushenski wao: because you're here! [20:09]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform aside the fact that deletant is pretty much a color revolutions expert in history rewriting, sure. [20:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: these usually specialize in selective quotation, rather than wholesale confabulation - but devil only knows. [20:11]
mircea_popescu he insultingly missed out the exact quote. [20:11]
pete_dushenski << lulz. article goes on to mention all the ways apple watch isn't and couldn't be 'hacker proof' [20:18]
assbot The Apple Watch is basically hacker proof - Yahoo Finance ... ( ) [20:18]
pete_dushenski who writes these headlines ? [20:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61520 @ 0.0002676 = 16.4628 BTC [-] [20:18]
pete_dushenski "And for the love of technology, please set up a strong passcode." << what strong 4-digit passcode ? [20:18]
mircea_popescu 1337 [20:18]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it's a remote for 'iPnohe' [20:18]
asciilifeform so what is the discussion even about. [20:18]
asciilifeform somehow 'old wine' gets to be discussion-worthy again because of 'new bottle' ? [20:19]
trinque that article got paid for [20:19]
danielpbarron iPhone can be reprogramed to use a longer password [20:19]
trinque not even news; it's an ad [20:19]
asciilifeform << who paid for that one [20:19]
assbot Despite record $180M Picasso, art market no bubble - Yahoo Finance ... ( ) [20:20]
pete_dushenski picasso duh. [20:20]
mircea_popescu lo [20:20]
trinque probably wherever it was auctioned [20:20]
asciilifeform << from same rag - fictional stock exchanges also 'regulated' [20:20]
assbot Will regulators sideline fantasy stock-trading games? - Yahoo Finance ... ( ) [20:20]
asciilifeform usg claims ownership of the sun, moon, stars. orders the sea whipped. news at eleven. [20:23]
asciilifeform wake me up when the sea stops screaming when they whip it. [20:23]
mircea_popescu lol [20:24]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: what's your take on 21 and their race to toasterise mining ? [20:25]
trinque [20:25]
assbot Why Business Insider lets its reporters fly on sources' dimes - Digiday ... ( ) [20:25]
trinque business insider is a shitty rag [20:25]
mircea_popescu tis in the logs! [20:25]
trinque as is the whole category of such "news" outlets [20:25]
trinque the marketing side bleeds into the content side if there ever was such a distinction in the first place [20:25]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: into the depths i go. [20:29]
trinque doublelol @ [20:30]
assbot A New Monetization Solution: Yahoo Recommends - Yahoo Advertising ... ( ) [20:30]
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asciilifeform in unrelated but pleasant news, i just unwrapped a beautiful edition of john strong's 'procedures in experimental physics' (1938) [20:39]
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asciilifeform [20:39]
assbot Procedures in Experimental Physics by John Strong — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists ... ( ) [20:39]
asciilifeform << apparently, the whole thing! [20:40]
assbot Procedures in experimental physics : Strong, John Donovan : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive ... ( ) [20:40]
asciilifeform ^^^^ l337 w4r3z!!111!! [20:40]
asciilifeform no one should be surprised at the length of the section devoted to glass. in that period, folks were expected to do 100% own glass. [20:41]
mircea_popescu 30s ? fo sho. [20:41]
mircea_popescu the bash of the time [20:41]
asciilifeform then we got 'pyrex' [20:42]
asciilifeform and you need an oxygenated flame for pyrex [20:42]
asciilifeform now, pyrex is apparently going extinct on account of crapflation [20:42]
asciilifeform for this and other reasons - not a bad time to learn glass. [20:42]
asciilifeform (among other skills) [20:42]
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cazalla my missus is not too bad with that, has been doing lampworking for like a decade [20:48]
cazalla i'd rather move her kilns and tanks into the garage and turn that room into a computing space tbh though lol [20:51]
asciilifeform cazalla: lamps as in neon ? [20:52]
pete_dushenski << not quite 2013 logs, but i'll take it. [20:53]
assbot Logged on 12-03-2015 19:27:50; mircea_popescu: << don't be ridiculous. for one thing, commodizing asic mining is a larger task than commodizing cpu arch. for the other, they're a fucking sv corp, they're not going to DO ANYTHING. just sit around and talk about shit. preferably at "conferences", or else "liveblog" it. [20:53]
cazalla nah as in beads, paperweights, blown etc [20:53]
pete_dushenski [20:53]
assbot Logged on 12-03-2015 12:22:05; *: Adlai desperately hopes that '21' are trying to commoditize asic mining, rather than just another mining ktulu [20:53]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski [20:54]
assbot Logged on 10-05-2015 23:16:02; mircea_popescu: toaster is kinda dumb, but ceramic tiles for warm floor is worth doing. [20:54]
pete_dushenski ah yes, the tileable mining floor [20:55]
pete_dushenski 21 will still plunk their chips in vcr's because of install costs for customer [20:56]
pete_dushenski new floor would be price-y [20:56]
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pete_dushenski new gadget or gizmo ? easy peasy. [20:57]
BingoBoingo With the power consumption of most cable boxes an extra 20-40 watts would probably go unnoticed by consumer [20:58]
asciilifeform and if he notices - then what? idiots will quit tv ? [20:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90250 @ 0.00027205 = 24.5525 BTC [+] {2} [20:59]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah, bitches on facebook. Wonders what could have went wrong. [21:00]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski they didn't do their homework at all. they're a very easy target for the "eco" lobby, and will be murdered as they can't afford to pay those leeches. [21:00]
asciilifeform these folks fill the holy trifecta of 1) won't notice 2) if notices, won't care 3) if cares, impotent to do anything [21:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not if they spin it as 'out coin is donated to offset carbon credits for mother gaia' or whatnot [21:01]
mircea_popescu but whatever, i'm not here to provide strategic consultancy for free to "the titans of sv". fuck them sideways, they can go hire harlan ellison to do that. [21:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, even then. [21:01]
mircea_popescu whatever, they want consultancy, they can court me like any other whore. [21:02]
asciilifeform 'eco lobby' is a usg tentacle like any other. [21:03]
trinque any consumer product derpage would just be cover for turning on whatever computing power the NSA has at its disposal [21:03]
trinque I mean this assumes whatever sub-groups within the thing haven't been mining on their botnets for years [21:05]
trinque I don't buy that either [21:05]
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trinque there are guys inside the beast not nearly as foolish as that Force guy [21:05]
asciilifeform trinque: if you mean 'botnet' in the traditional sense of the word, run the numbers. [21:05]
asciilifeform (botnet mining today is a fart in the wind) [21:05]
trinque who said today [21:05]
scoopbot_revived US Poultry and Egg Prices Headed To The Moon [21:05]
asciilifeform and was a year ago. and two. and three. [21:05]
trinque I said "for years" [21:05]
mircea_popescu o.O the stuff qntra newses ?! [21:06]
trinque that's it; the price of eggs and poultry is going to do the USA in for good [21:06]
jurov they will import (unwashed! what horror) eggs from elsewhere [21:09]
jurov and find it surpprising for qntra, too [21:10]
BingoBoingo Things that adversely impact the utility of the USD is totally qntra [21:10]
jurov so... bitcoin price per egg is expected to stay constant? [21:12]
danielpbarron !up maxwell [21:12]
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jurov oh i get it, it's litecoin [21:13]
jurov FLY CHIKUN [21:13]
BingoBoingo Sure [21:14]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform aws can definitely not be part of our canonical stuff huh. << agreed. i'll continue to get my sea-legs with what I've got so far, but what we end up supporting in the end will be a gentoo on a bare-rails environment. unless any objections? [21:15]
mircea_popescu i dun think so [21:15]
asciilifeform bare-rails ? [21:15]
mod6 real hardware. [21:16]
mod6 non-virtualized. [21:16]
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danielpbarron maxwell, didn't you register a key under the nickname mxtm? [21:24]
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asciilifeform strong's masterpiece, among many other useful things, explains how to make optical fibers (by hand, naturally) [21:50]
asciilifeform what is the modern experimenter expected to make by hand ? [21:52]
asciilifeform grant proposal signatures ? [21:52]
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mircea_popescu copypaste hey, suit you ? [21:58]
assbot ... ( ) [21:58]
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mircea_popescu !up seraminta [22:08]
-assbot- You voiced seraminta for 30 minutes. [22:08]
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seraminta yasss wassup hoes [22:08]
seraminta i was told by my friend dan to come here [22:09]
seraminta i see he is here [22:09]
seraminta hello [22:09]
seraminta someone please teach me about this i am ready [22:09]
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mircea_popescu who's your friend and who are you ? [22:11]
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BingoBoingo danielpbarron is this one of yours? [22:11]
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danielpbarron ah, yes [22:12]
danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.mxtm.1:56b85c7ae290407ae089b8d262533fa748f89fd5322d85884cecb4882e22d744 [22:12]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for mxtm with note: a kid who lives in Boston and likes languages [22:12]
danielpbarron seraminta is one of the local girls [22:13]
danielpbarron she wants to learn about bitcoin [22:14]
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mxtm that's me [22:14]
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seraminta yes [22:14]
seraminta please teach me!! [22:14]
mxtm fuck, this pi case is really tight [22:16]
danielpbarron seraminta, [22:16]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( ) [22:16]
BingoBoingo First step to learn Bitcoin is to put shoe on head, in private, and balance it there for much time. Teaches discipline necessary to Bitcoin. [22:16]
seraminta wow [22:17]
seraminta u 4chan peice of frick [22:17]
seraminta jk [22:17]
seraminta i'll read that now tho [22:17]
trinque BingoBoingo: then you chant "bitcoin is bitcoin" in the mirror each night [22:17]
BingoBoingo seraminta: Nah, not shoe on head for camera, shoe on head to teach balance and focus. [22:17]
BingoBoingo trinque: yes, while looking at agricultural price trends for the past two decades [22:18]
mircea_popescu trinque and sagavin comes to enlarge your bollocks ? [22:18]
trinque lol, yes he comes to increase your block size [22:18]
seraminta is this to like [22:19]
seraminta "mine" bitcoins [22:19]
seraminta or [22:19]
BingoBoingo seraminta: It is to increase your ability to say no to bad ideas [22:21]
seraminta what [22:21]
seraminta i dont understand how to lke [22:21]
seraminta get them [22:21]
danielpbarron there may be miners in here, but it's not limited to that [22:21]
trinque that is actually a very apt description of the medicinal effect of #b-a [22:21]
seraminta these links make no sense to me [22:21]
danielpbarron seraminta, how do you get dollars? [22:21]
mircea_popescu << the 20Mb power changer. [22:21]
assbot ... ( ) [22:21]
seraminta i have a job heh [22:21]
mircea_popescu seraminta [22:22]
assbot I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [22:22]
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williamdunne seraminta: Bitcoin isn't free money [22:22]
seraminta ok but how do i [22:22]
seraminta do what yall do [22:22]
seraminta what do yall do for it? [22:22]
williamdunne Buy em' [22:23]
danielpbarron you read the log for 6 months to a year [22:23]
williamdunne Work for em' [22:23]
williamdunne Take pictures of your tits for em' [22:23]
trinque seraminta: before trying to acquire bitcoins you will want to educate yourself on both them and the technical considerations around keeping them [22:23]
trinque the logs here are indeed the best way to do that [22:23]
seraminta can yall just educate me on how to get that money tho.... [22:23]
trinque as are the various associated blogs [22:24]
mxtm well you can trade for it [22:24]
mxtm for traditional fiat currencies [22:24]
mxtm or you can get paid in it in exchange for services, goods, etc [22:24]
seraminta what do u do for them? [22:24]
trinque seraminta: what interests you in them? [22:25]
mxtm i'm more of the trader type [22:25]
seraminta im a fan of money [22:25]
danielpbarron seraminta, you have been given many suggestions; repeating yourself will not yield a positive outcome [22:25]
trinque seraminta: what's money? [22:25]
seraminta what the hell dan? [22:25]
seraminta yall are being so vague [22:25]
williamdunne seraminta: How do you earn dollars? Would you like us to specify every position available on the McDonalds' team? [22:26]
seraminta okay but just by saying [22:26]
seraminta oh u trade for them [22:26]
seraminta is vague [22:26]
seraminta like [22:26]
seraminta trade what [22:26]
danielpbarron if you straight up just want some coin, I can sell it to you in person; just hand me cash [22:26]
seraminta how much is each thing worth like [22:26]
danielpbarron ;;ticker [22:27]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 236.51, Best ask: 236.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 236.51, 24 hour volume: 29052.82160197, 24 hour low: 234.22, 24 hour high: 245.0, 24 hour vwap: None [22:27]
williamdunne $ in bitcoin out, its like magic [22:27]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market buttchina [22:27]
gribble BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.468966, Best ask: 235.48187, Bid-ask spread: 0.01290, Last trade: 235.467353, 24 hour volume: 61772.47790000, 24 hour low: 233.4011, 24 hour high: 244.75662, 24 hour vwap: 241.381998979 [22:27]
mxtm where are you located, seraminta? [22:27]
copypaste 08:53:49*@mircea_popescu copypaste hey, suit you ? [22:27]
assbot ... ( ) [22:27]
copypaste Yes, very nice mircea_popescu [22:27]
mircea_popescu splendid. [22:27]
copypaste I especially like this: [22:28]
assbot ... ( ) [22:28]
mircea_popescu lol [22:28]
copypaste You'll get a lot of clicks from that from our users most likely. [22:28]
mircea_popescu anyway, ima add more etc, but doesn't need to bother you. [22:28]
copypaste Cool [22:28]
mircea_popescu o also! anyone with a scooped blog can make himself a banner, hit me up with it. [22:28]
seraminta im in connecticut [22:29]
seraminta why [22:29]
williamdunne Because different countries have different trading systems.. [22:29]
trinque seraminta: read this -> [22:30]
assbot A complete theory of economics on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [22:30]
trinque from there click links, or ask questions here [22:30]
trinque and read the logs. [22:30]
mxtm seraminta: well then ofc you can just do cash in person w/ danielpbarron here [22:30]
mxtm cash in mail is also a good option especially for "off the books" type stuff [22:31]
BingoBoingo Station wagon full of cash also works for larger purchases [22:31]
trinque lol [22:31]
mxtm and or a large box of cash [22:32]
* mxtm eyes the boxes in the closet he would never be able to fill [22:32]
trinque or a box of cash within which there are several boxes of cash [22:32]
mxtm i have all of these priority mail boxes and free tape now [22:32]
mxtm i want to use them [22:32]
BingoBoingo Nah, station wagons has always been the premier unit of data transfer and what is money, but data on who doesn't suck [22:32]
mxtm semen also transfers lots of data quickly [22:33]
williamdunne BingoBoingo: In some places delivery services are still the most cost effective way of transporting web data [22:34]
BingoBoingo mxtm: Not really. only encoded with 4 letter character set. T, C, A, G [22:34]
williamdunne I can remember a while ago a calculation being done that it was cheaper to have a 120gb SSD filled with data shipped to Canada than it was to download onto your existing drive [22:35]
mxtm lol [22:35]
williamdunne Including the cost of the SSD itself ofc [22:36]
danielpbarron << seraminta is the one on the right (best pic i could find) [22:38]
assbot ... ( ) [22:38]
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danielpbarron !up seraminta [22:38]
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seraminta why [22:39]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron you know you gotta let people publish their own pics. [22:39]
seraminta did u post that dude lol [22:39]
danielpbarron i took that pic, it is my own. but i'll keep that in mind for future reference [22:39]
seraminta bye [22:40]
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copypaste lol [22:40]
copypaste One moment please danielpbarron. [22:40]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron and since we're doing future references : you don't want a 20% of empty sky and cut calves. [22:41]
mircea_popescu the human body has some permissible cuts, and the calves aren't it. if you don't cut the neck, the next is the torso, between lower rib and belly button, and if you don't cut that you don't cut anything. [22:42]
* danielpbarron nods [22:43]
copypaste danielpbarron: [22:44]
assbot /b/ - which one would you fuck, /b/? ... ( ) [22:44]
copypaste :^) [22:44]
mircea_popescu aww. now you've gone given him an irl problem. [22:45]
cazalla ahha copypaste [22:46]
mircea_popescu see ? you lose at chans. [22:46]
assbot /b/ - which one would you fuck, /b/? ... ( ) [22:46]
mircea_popescu random lulz : in the 70s, romania was doing a very argnetine-like autarky thing. making local whisky, local everything. including local gin, which was made at covasna, [22:49]
mircea_popescu and consequently the brand name was covagin [22:49]
cazalla doesn't seem anyone wants to bang #3 [22:52]
copypaste might just be a bad picture of 3 [22:53]
copypaste not a very forgiving angle [22:53]
cazalla nothing forgiving about 1 out of 5 girls wearing jeans at the beach [22:54]
mircea_popescu here, better set. [22:54]
assbot [NSFW] Tigancusa, spune drept... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [22:54]
cazalla fwiw, i'd bang all 5 but only admit to 2 or maybe 3 of em [22:54]
mircea_popescu also jeans at beach. [22:54]
mircea_popescu cazalla married men would fuck anything. [22:55]
cazalla no doubt about that [22:55]
trinque lol [22:55]
mircea_popescu << so did zimmerman. and plenty of others. [23:06]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 21:32:00; asciilifeform: this fella used to be the 'genuine article' [23:06]
mircea_popescu there's something about old men. [23:06]
asciilifeform aha. same dynamic. [23:06]
asciilifeform (how old is schneier ?) [23:06]
mircea_popescu "Be wary of one-time pads and other crypto unicorns" vbwghahgahaha [23:06]
mircea_popescu o god almighty. [23:06]
asciilifeform to be fair, the item under review was a prng turd written for turdroid etc. [23:06]
mircea_popescu you know, these schmucks have nothing of the quality of schmuckdom in the soviet times. [23:07]
mircea_popescu just as many poltrons then, but really, a lot more style. [23:07]
mircea_popescu now it's just... blunt. vulgar. [23:07]
asciilifeform what can i say, these folks have more distance between selves and the cultured times. [23:07]
mircea_popescu i guess. [23:08]
asciilifeform the talmudists had it right, in their picture of wisdom being at peak (in their cosmography, in the era of moses) and fading away monotonically since [23:08]
mircea_popescu i dun think so. [23:08]
asciilifeform well, wrong about details, but basic idea [23:09]
mircea_popescu mebbe. tho i dun think so. not that i have any serious basis for it. [23:10]
mircea_popescu << dude. it's the pump phase of a pump and dump scam. what do you expect ? there is no connection between the depicted elements under the surface. [23:11]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 21:45:12; asciilifeform: 'By the time its chips were to be embedded into Internet of Things (IoT) devices, 21 projected its cost to produce 1 BTC could be as low as $7.45.' << somebody does not grasp difficulty factor ? [23:11]
mircea_popescu it's like you're expecting to find flesh under a stand-up cut-out of angelina jolie. [23:11]
asciilifeform is it entirely inconceivable that they are in fact churning out miners ? [23:12]
asciilifeform how this act is financed is a secondary consideration. for all i know, they are whoring out their daughters to pay for it [23:12]
mircea_popescu i've yet to see any tripwire move. [23:13]
mircea_popescu maybe they're doing it in supersecret, but so far, on the balance of intelligence, it's just gift of gab. [23:13]
asciilifeform afaik no one alleged that this particular set is plugged in yet [23:13]
mircea_popescu has to be made. [23:13]
mircea_popescu you know, in a plant. [23:13]
mircea_popescu designed. you know, by someone. [23:13]
mircea_popescu etc. [23:13]
asciilifeform allegation was, by intel [23:14]
mircea_popescu where ? [23:14]
asciilifeform at one of their fabs [23:14]
mircea_popescu intel has a finite number of discrete fabs [23:14]
mircea_popescu they can't produce anything at "one of the fabs" [23:14]
* asciilifeform wasn't there, doesn't know at which in particular [23:14]
mircea_popescu there's oregon, arizona new mexico, some secret and some offshoire locations [23:14]
williamdunne The trilema rotator works on neither of my computers :/ [23:15]
mircea_popescu williamdunne what happens ? [23:15]
williamdunne One one computer, nothing [23:16]
mircea_popescu see page source ? [23:16]
williamdunne On the other I get a very quick flash of the no image logo, which then disappears [23:16]
williamdunne Yeah I'll check it [23:16]
mircea_popescu should be something like $ curl [23:16]
mircea_popescu [23:16]
assbot ... ( ) [23:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: quite possibly they read the 2013 #b-a thread and took the advice of baking a hashing engine into an existing system-on-chip design [23:17]
williamdunne One thing: [23:17]
williamdunne 03:11:47.553 The character encoding of the HTML document was not declared. The document will render with garbled text in some browser configurations if the document contains characters from outside the US-ASCII range. The character encoding of the page must be declared in the document or in the transfer protocol.1 rotator.php [23:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 207363 @ 0.00027095 = 56.185 BTC [-] {2} [23:17]
mircea_popescu yeah well. it's supposed to go into a diff page, with its own declarations, and it uses no glyphs. [23:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform do you understand the qty of engineering involved. [23:17]
williamdunne Source is: [23:17]
williamdunne [23:17]
mircea_popescu yes, they'll have this in five years. the effort required to do it in a year ? you'd hear. [23:18]
williamdunne Interesting, should work [23:18]
mircea_popescu williamdunne weird class ?! [23:18]
williamdunne Yeah, thats the one I'm getting [23:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mine is ~450 lines of verilog [23:19]
mircea_popescu it seems like your browser supplies it somehow ? the source has no class spec. [23:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform your embeddable bitcoin miner ? [23:19]
asciilifeform it isn't the most optimal in the world (far from it) and a 'serious', 'grown man's' miner oughta be designed at discrete logic level [23:19]
asciilifeform but the overall complexity of the act of mining is not high [23:20]
* asciilifeform mined his first, and for long time, only bitcoin, on an fpga for which he wrote a very elementary miner, as an exercise [23:21]
asciilifeform many other folks did this [23:21]
asciilifeform most of them, i will point out, long before i did [23:22]
* mircea_popescu awaits the 500 verilog lines gpu and the 2200 lines cpu to be released by intel soon=ish, totally busting the market. [23:22]
mircea_popescu it'll even fit in heads. [23:22]
asciilifeform stas@humanoid ~ $ wc -l mips.v [23:22]
asciilifeform 359 mips.v [23:22]
trinque williamdunne: you using adblock? [23:23]
williamdunne trinque: I am [23:23]
trinque 'tis an ad [23:23]
trinque :D [23:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it won't be busting any markets. because 'how world works' (TM) [23:23]
mircea_popescu and so here we go, full circle. [23:23]
mircea_popescu trinque you figure it actually blocks an image wrapped in an url ? that's almost all of em ? [23:24]
williamdunne Yeah youre right, its adblock causing it [23:24]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Rotator and banner are probably both keywords [23:24]
mircea_popescu sheit! [23:25]
asciilifeform for the benefit of log readers, i will point out again, that a sha256 hashing circuit is dwarfed, complexity-wise, by all but the simplest 'homework' cpu, gpu, whatever other ic product [23:26]
mircea_popescu copypaste pls to use instead! [23:27]
assbot ... ( ) [23:27]
asciilifeform they only appear complicated because 1) folks slept through school 2) lack of popular access to chip fab tech translates to lack of interest in even the most elementary aspects of engineering [23:27]
mircea_popescu williamdunne does that work ? [23:27]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Yeah they don't trigger it [23:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform mining is not just sha 256 hashing [23:27]
mircea_popescu copypaste because apparently adblocking assholery. [23:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is also a counter, yes [23:28]
asciilifeform big fat full-adder. [23:28]
asciilifeform takes up all of 1% of the gates [23:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform miner without a node ? miner without any security w/e ? [23:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down; that's not my department, said werhner von braun...' [23:28]
mircea_popescu yes well, 90% of a job is not a job. [23:29]
asciilifeform the miscreants from earlier thread, with the cable boxes ? [23:29]
asciilifeform betcha plan is to have'em all hang off one node [23:29]
asciilifeform link rsa'd [23:29]
asciilifeform (at least, in outgoing direction) [23:29]
mircea_popescu will be fun to ddos then. [23:29]
asciilifeform if cable boxes, won't sit on public net [23:30]
mircea_popescu im sure nukes will help them keep it up. [23:30]
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asciilifeform by 'hanging off one node', meant that the device issued to schmucks will not include a node [23:31]
asciilifeform (why should it) [23:31]
mircea_popescu for reliability. [23:31]
asciilifeform but merely the minimal iron necessary to getwork() from usg and return results in a form that is unusable to mitmers [23:31]
copypaste mircea_popescu: Do you wanat it put up now? [23:32]
mircea_popescu sure. [23:32]
copypaste OK. Give me a few minutes :) [23:33]
mircea_popescu << tbh i think he has it, but anyway. [23:33]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 21:55:40; pete_dushenski: by the time they roll these out and get them into any appreciable number of homes, it'll look like trying to fight the nazis by arming every american with slingshots [23:33]
asciilifeform i'm still curious, who is going to outcompete a hypothetical usg telecom monopoly inserting miners into cable boxes etc. and on what parameter ? cost of energy ? nope - schmucks pay. cost of manufacture? again, schmucks pay, indirectly. which is it ? [23:34]
mircea_popescu << i have internet here, no magic box. had it in romania too, they offered me the magic box. i didn't want it , the woman was in shock [23:34]
assbot Logged on 13-05-2015 21:58:34; jurov: afaik it's so everywhere, nobody does streaming available for own hardware, i have asked [23:34]
mircea_popescu but i didn't take it. [23:34]
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trinque mircea_popescu: yeh tittydrip works :D [23:34]
asciilifeform ^ i think jurov was speaking of 'tv-style' interface where schmuck is not aware that he is using the net, doesn't sit around hunting for warez, etc. but just sits with ir remote & drools [23:35]
asciilifeform it is what folks pay for when they subscribe to 'cable tv' [23:35]
mircea_popescu oh, people still get tv ? [23:35]
* mircea_popescu has no idea about any of that market. [23:35]
asciilifeform (which, where i live, has long ago gone packetized, yes) [23:35]
mircea_popescu afaik it's like old style phone service [23:36]
mircea_popescu you get it with the internet and nobody uses it [23:36]
asciilifeform as discussed earlier, somewhere north of 20 million u.s. subscribers just for 'comcast' [23:36]
mircea_popescu i guess gramas use it or something [23:36]
asciilifeform and they use it. [23:36]
asciilifeform every restaurant in d.c. area, for instance, has it [23:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform 20mn users x 20 watts = doubling the current hash power. /me is unimpressed. [23:36]
copypaste mircea_popescu: just a warning [23:36]
copypaste is using a self-signed cert [23:36]
copypaste it won't work correectly because most of our requests are served over HTTPS [23:37]
asciilifeform why it even has https [23:37]
mircea_popescu copypaste uh it shouldn't have https at all ? my references are all to http [23:37]
mircea_popescu you rewrite them ?! [23:37]
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copypaste mircea_popescu: No, but most browsers won't allow HTTP in HTTPS pages. [23:37]
mircea_popescu ugh [23:37]
copypaste I can keep it at HTTP but "Content Security Policy" in Firefox and Chrome will block it. [23:37]
mircea_popescu shit. [23:38]
copypaste If it's on an HTTPS page. It'll only work on HTTP pages. [23:38]
copypaste Yeah. [23:38]
mircea_popescu listen, what if i push the image out as base64 ? [23:38]
mircea_popescu then no link [23:38]
copypaste I'm not sure I understand your proposal [23:39]
copypaste I'm linking via iframe like this [23:39]
mircea_popescu lemme have it changed, a second, then you see. [23:39]
copypaste OK [23:39]
copypaste [23:39]
mircea_popescu copypaste how about something like this : [23:46]
assbot ... ( ) [23:46]
mircea_popescu has no references [23:46]
copypaste It won't work with the iframe method. I would need the source code of that file and run it on 8chan's server [23:49]
copypaste Because the iframe still refers to the plain HTTP :( [23:49]
mircea_popescu ah i see [23:49]
mircea_popescu yeah but then how do i add/remove banners. [23:50]
copypaste Yeah exactly. [23:50]
mircea_popescu well what the shit. [23:50]
copypaste If you have any domain with a valid HTTPS cert you could use that [23:50]
copypaste And it would just work [23:50]
mircea_popescu i don't, because i don't use pki. [23:50]
mircea_popescu it's pretty well despised here. [23:50]
mircea_popescu can you give me a ftp user in a subdir on your server and run it from there ? [23:50]
copypaste I see, it makes sense. Unfortunately browser vendors have been very difficult about this lately. [23:51]
mircea_popescu of course they have. usg wants pki everywhere. [23:51]
copypaste Sure, that will work. You'll lose out on some stats stuff though that you could get by running it on your server [23:51]
copypaste e.g. how many impressions [23:51]
cazalla apparently these are the guns seized by aussie LEA, nfi if for real [23:51]
assbot ... ( ) [23:51]
assbot ... ( ) [23:51]
mircea_popescu well alternatively you could just import the php from my server into your page [23:51]
mircea_popescu of course you'd have to validate the shit out of it. [23:51]
mircea_popescu but i can swear it won't be malicious, fwiw. [23:51]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Pretty clear those are sporting equipment [23:52]
mircea_popescu ^ [23:52]
mircea_popescu what's that, airguns ? [23:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 269587 @ 0.00027003 = 72.7966 BTC [-] {2} [23:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28613 @ 0.00027215 = 7.787 BTC [+] [23:54]
cazalla find out soon, i rang their contact centre and they said they'd email the images [23:55]
copypaste I wonder if I could just proxy from your PHP script [23:55]
copypaste Like Bitcointalk does for images [23:55]
copypaste And also send you the real user's IP so you get stats. [23:55]
copypaste So [23:56]
assbot 404 Not Found ... ( ) [23:56]
copypaste Would that be OK? [23:56]
mircea_popescu you should be able to. [23:56]
mircea_popescu sure. [23:56]
copypaste Great, let me do that. [23:56]
copypaste This has the added benefit of bypassing uBlock. [23:56]
copypaste Which is the new vogue of adblocking software. It blocks crcossorigin requests. [23:56]
mircea_popescu as long as it punctures the pki bs i'm happy. [23:56]
copypaste Yep. Only one with PKI BS will be us, hehe. [23:57]
asciilifeform cazalla: looks like .22 (olympics caliber) [23:57]
asciilifeform (first image) [23:57]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: One's clealy a lever action, the other one appears to be a Ruger 10/22 (judging off of the magazing they laid on the OTHER SIDE of the levergun) [23:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you gotta appreciate, the usg is not the only one mining, nor has it been. at this point, the deployment you contemplate might allow it to catch up, but won't do much more than that. [23:57]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo aha. daisies++ [23:58]
asciilifeform cazalla: the 2nd is of an обрез [23:58]
BingoBoingo Really the sort of thing Australia needs more of considering their rabbit problem [23:58]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i suspect that only neutron bomb could have a hope of dealing with that continent's real problem [23:59]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The spiders? [23:59]
mircea_popescu the women ? [23:59]
asciilifeform (and it would have to fall on a different continent entirely) [23:59]
mircea_popescu lol [23:59]
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