Forum logs for 13 Dec 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform p. 22. sec. 3.13: boot modes. [00:01]
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asciilifeform 'At startup, boot pins are used to select one out of three boot options: * Boot from user Flash * Boot from system memory * Boot from embedded SRAM' [00:02]
Namworld urgh... people are buying SFI on havelock? [00:02]
asciilifeform 'The boot loader is located in system memory. It is used to reprogram the Flash memory by [00:02]
asciilifeform using USART1 (PA9/PA10), USART3 (PC10/PC11 or PB10/PB11), CAN2 (PB5/PB13), USB [00:02]
asciilifeform OTG FS in Device mode (PA11/PA12) through DFU (device firmware upgrade).' [00:02]
asciilifeform if they set this up correctly: widget will be hard-wired to boot from 'boot rom' section of FW, which receives upgrade and calculates checksum and rsa sig. [00:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 650 @ 0.001 = 0.65 BTC {2} [00:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00089739 = 8.3457 BTC [-] [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1221 @ 0.001 = 1.221 BTC [00:08]
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thestringpuller I keep hearing footsteps baby, in the dark [00:30]
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thestringpuller ;;google between the sheets [00:35]
gribble Isley Brothers - Between The Sheets - YouTube: ; Between the Sheets: ; Between the Sheets (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [00:35]
thestringpuller ^- for you mr. mircea_popescu [00:35]
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jurov !t m s.mpoe [00:40]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00088706 / 0.00089102 / 0.00090149 (138332 shares, 123.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00085548 / 0.00090149 (3357353 shares, 2,872.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082947 / 0.00090149 (8018791 shares, 6,651.36 BTC) [00:40]
jurov !t m s.bbet [00:40]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.0006 / 0.0006 (666 shares, 0.40 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066638 / 0.00075 (47246 shares, 31.48 BTC) [00:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [00:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00089739 = 0.8714 BTC [-] [00:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00297997 = 0.1043 BTC [+] [00:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.0005001 = 2.5005 BTC [+] {5} [00:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 198 @ 0.001 = 0.198 BTC [00:58]
dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVuhKCYtr4#t=1h04m30s [00:58]
ozbot Pete Rock -- PeteStrumentals (10th Anniversary Edition) CD1 - YouTube [00:58]
dub freddy foxx is the shit [00:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.001 = 3 BTC [00:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1362 @ 0.0005002 = 0.6813 BTC [+] [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 258 @ 0.00280603 = 0.724 BTC [-] {5} [01:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05 = 2.5 BTC [01:07]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC [01:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [01:18]
jurov i'm falling in love with electrum, mostly its tinker-friendly python console [01:18]
javanomad ;;seen unbalanced [01:18]
gribble unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: Little Bitcoin icon on the package and everything [01:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 45 @ 0.0023 = 0.1035 BTC [+] [01:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [01:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.26551429 = 7.4344 BTC [-] {9} [01:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.2614 = 7.842 BTC [-] [01:24]
javanomad ;;later tell unbalanced Thanks for letting me know the coffee made it! Many thanks. [01:26]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:26]
mircea_popescu jurov the client ? [01:30]
jurov yea [01:30]
Apocalyptic jurov, sounds interesting, i fell in love with python already heh [01:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.05 = 10 BTC [01:32]
jurov only bad thing is, if you don't have own electrum server (with its own hefty blockchain index) [01:32]
jurov then it lets your addresses known to the public el nodes [01:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6300 @ 0.001 = 6.3 BTC {2} [01:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [01:33]
benkay ya well one should have ones own copy of the blockchain let's be real here [01:34]
mircea_popescu ouch [01:34]
mircea_popescu a well i guess it has no other way to do it if you have no blockchain [01:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2405 @ 0.00050998 = 1.2265 BTC [+] {7} [01:36]
jurov could be interesting to find out crypto protocol for blind tx filtering.. if that can bbe done at all [01:37]
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mircea_popescu i dont see how [01:37]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2500 @ 0.001 = 2.5 BTC [01:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14799999 = 0.592 BTC [+] {2} [01:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [01:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00297998 = 0.2891 BTC [-] [01:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0028514 = 0.2851 BTC [-] {5} [01:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00090308 = 2.348 BTC [+] [02:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00090593 = 4.3032 BTC [+] [02:20]
benkay it's over 9000! [02:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17454 @ 0.001 = 17.454 BTC {2} [02:38]
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thestringpuller ;;estimate [02:38]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 1037354862.97 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days [02:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00090604 = 4.2584 BTC [+] {2} [02:41]
truffles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWCPUC_ijQ [02:42]
ozbot Damien Rice & Melanie Laurent - Everything You're Not Supposed To Be - YouTube [02:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [+] [02:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 28 @ 0.0099 = 0.2772 BTC [+] [02:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 15186 @ 0.001 = 15.186 BTC [03:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28499997 BTC [+] [03:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 149 @ 0.001 = 0.149 BTC [03:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [-] [03:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00090739 = 6.2156 BTC [+] {2} [03:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.119375 = 0.955 BTC [+] {2} [03:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00090798 = 11.4405 BTC [+] {2} [03:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10255 = 0.2051 BTC [-] {2} [03:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10890 @ 0.00090698 = 9.877 BTC [-] {2} [03:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 497 @ 0.001 = 0.497 BTC [03:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16172 @ 0.00090866 = 14.6948 BTC [+] {2} [03:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00090377 = 2.7348 BTC [-] [04:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4874 @ 0.00090377 = 4.405 BTC [-] {3} [04:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC [04:29]
KRS|Gotchawallet stringpuller you around [04:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.00297997 = 0.7182 BTC [+] [04:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00090289 = 0.8126 BTC [-] [04:34]
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mircea_popescu anyone wanting to become a duke : dukedom for sale. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 [13:33]
mircea_popescu perhaps a little on the expensive side. [13:33]
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BingoBoingo Sounds cheap for a Dukedom. Expensive for a Dukedom of that though. [13:35]
mircea_popescu seeing how the modern state has legislated itself into a corner, i don't see it i tell you. [13:37]
mircea_popescu there's certainly no value in the scraps of an old dukedom. [13:37]
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KRS|Gotchawallet if you become a duke, does that mean you wear a cape from now on? [13:38]
mircea_popescu not like it comes with the right/obligation to raise an army, administer justice and certify brides' virginity or anything [13:38]
mircea_popescu KRS|Gotchawallet i thought capes were for cunts. [13:38]
KRS|Gotchawallet maybe..capes could have been made obsolete too [13:39]
KRS|Gotchawallet nobody wears capes in the U.S. i suppose if you did you would worry people [13:39]
mircea_popescu s/cunts/counts [13:40]
mircea_popescu dukes get nice pearly hats. [13:40]
BingoBoingo Anyone actually make anything with Urbit? [13:40]
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mircea_popescu KRS|Gotchawallet http://assets3.parliament.uk/woa/woa-zoom-popup/woa-large/2593-1-h.tif << as you can see. they're all dukes there. york, lancaster, clarence, gloucester etc [13:42]
KRS|Gotchawallet yes a count would wear a cape..hmm. it would be cool to be a duke. i have a friend who became a minister by sending an application and paying a $14 dollar service charge. isnt that weird. [13:42]
mircea_popescu it sounds like the us. [13:42]
KRS|Gotchawallet ah yes..and duke of oil [13:43]
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KRS|Gotchawallet eh erl [13:43]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo they failed to make a strip poker [13:44]
mircea_popescu kinda the end of it, even z80 had a strip poker. [13:44]
BingoBoingo Yeah. I figured they would. [13:44]
mircea_popescu the world has very little talent and most of it is sorely mismanaged. [13:45]
BingoBoingo It's like how apparently MINIX 3 i supposed to be a big thing when they just made small changes to the MINIX kernel and just ripped the old NetBSD userland. [13:47]
mircea_popescu not really related tho, from what i gather urbit was actually a from-scratch thing [13:49]
BingoBoingo Sure, urbit was from scratch, but it can't find anyone capable of actually building anything from scratch. Minix is that ancient thing, couldn't sell textbooks anymore and then they just ripped NetBSD and people still don't care about it. [13:50]
mircea_popescu lol [13:51]
pankkake no one cares about netbsd either [13:52]
mircea_popescu i think that's more of a ltc thing, no one cares but it can't hurt to have around. [13:53]
BingoBoingo pankkake: Consumer electronics manufacterers love NetBSD. [13:53]
pankkake well I hope netbsd devs actually understand the code their are touching [13:54]
pankkake they* [13:54]
BingoBoingo Want to make a portable DVD player on whatever this month's cheapest chip is? FreeBSD might not support the architecture. [13:54]
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pankkake netbsd makes many claims about architectures, but many are also broken [13:54]
BingoBoingo pankkake: Well, for the fringe shit where they overlap the OpenBSD implementations tend to be better (Machintosh 68K as an example) [13:55]
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BingoBoingo pankkake: The choice though I imagine ends up to being throw money at code or throw money at chips. [13:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00089583 = 10.0781 BTC [+] [13:57]
BingoBoingo Another problem is people assume "compiles on" architecture X means once compiled works the sames as compiled on architecture Y does. [14:00]
pankkake one of the reason the bigger ones (linux, freebsd) are the ones running on those architectures: it's actually tested [14:02]
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BingoBoingo pankkake: It isn't quite so simple though. On the popular architectures you get most of the OS choices though. [14:03]
BingoBoingo Sometime you find somthing like OpenGenera that only works on DEC Alpha processors running HP TruUx under it [14:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00089507 = 4.8334 BTC [-] {2} [14:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00089482 = 3.5345 BTC [-] [14:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0008966 = 6.859 BTC [+] [14:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00089425 = 4.3818 BTC [-] {2} [14:44]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: what is a popular architecture these days? [14:44]
thestringpuller x86_64? [14:44]
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azoo I recall from few years back that there was a site on which someone could buy shares for BC related companies [14:46]
azoo anyone happens to know the name? [14:46]
thestringpuller uuuuhhhh [14:48]
thestringpuller it's called mpex azoo [14:48]
thestringpuller the only companies I would personally invest in is S.NSA, S.MPOE, or S.BBET [14:48]
thestringpuller Asicminer shares are sold on havelock [14:48]
truffles s.nsa lol [14:48]
thestringpuller S.NSA already is taking preorders on the cardano [14:49]
thestringpuller so I mean revenue is sure to come through unless the ipo is bubbling like boiling water [14:49]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: I don't know if there is one worth mentioning. [14:49]
thestringpuller !ticker m s.nsa [14:49]
assbot [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00012 / 0.0001471 / 0.00016 (12171 shares, 1.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0001011 / 0.00011006 / 0.000234 (512079 shares, 56.36 BTC) [14:49]
jurov what???? cardano preorders??? [14:49]
thestringpuller "perorders" [14:49]
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thestringpuller isn't there like a list of people who already are committing to buying one upon release jurov ? [14:50]
jurov if, then is strictly unofficial. [14:50]
BingoBoingo I have yet to see a cardano preorder commitment regime [14:50]
jurov there are only shareholders so far [14:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285248 = 0.2852 BTC [-] {4} [14:51]
jurov thestringpuller: and just few hours ago i have argued with mircea about advertising [14:51]
jurov and His Popescuousness said no produc, no advertising [14:51]
jurov and no preorders [14:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.002852 = 0.6274 BTC [-] {2} [14:52]
jurov and no bitbet volume, too :( [14:52]
thestringpuller we need to make bitbet mainstream [14:52]
thestringpuller get bookies to use it [14:52]
thestringpuller then there would be more volume [14:53]
truffles feels like i just woke up, but it was 10 hrs ago, is time passing me by?? [14:53]
thestringpuller !ticker m s.bbet [14:54]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (20 shares, 0.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00059883 / 0.0006 (686 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066634 / 0.00075 (47266 shares, 31.50 BTC) [14:54]
thestringpuller lol jurov you weren't kidding about no volume.... [14:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2418 @ 0.0008966 = 2.168 BTC [+] [14:55]
thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/HH9mqRc.jpg - what is bitcoin? [14:56]
pankkake what is that blue screen? [14:57]
ThickAsThieves ;;g Jeopardy [14:59]
gribble Error: "g" is not a valid command. [14:59]
ThickAsThieves ;;google Jeopardy [14:59]
gribble This is JEOPARDY! - America's Favorite Quiz Show®: ; Jeopardy! - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; JeopardyLabs - Online Jeopardy Template: [14:59]
truffles channel 25 [15:00]
thestringpuller truffl-opa-lus [15:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0008966 = 0.8966 BTC [+] [15:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.002555 = 0.2555 BTC [-] {2} [15:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26140001 BTC [-] [15:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.0008966 = 0.8518 BTC [+] [15:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0008963 = 8.6941 BTC [-] {2} [15:09]
jurov thestringpuller: i meant the cardano bet [15:12]
jurov where i'm so far betting with myself [15:13]
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ThickAsThieves isnt this MP's thing? put money on your delivery if you are for realz [15:22]
ThickAsThieves or did cardano never say itd be out this year? [15:22]
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pankkake no clear promise or preorder, so he can get away with not doing it… [15:25]
pankkake ooh someone tried to make a starcraft bet but it was rejected :( [15:26]
Duffer1 what was the bet? [15:28]
ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats [15:28]
Duffer1 mc best protoss or best protoss is mc [15:28]
gribble Current Blocks: 274671 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1520 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1052915670.97 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.91508 [15:28]
pankkake :D no scarlett vs. naniwa showmatch (that I didn't know about) [15:29]
Duffer1 oh the 12btc one? [15:29]
pankkake wow! you're right they're competing for BTC!! [15:30]
pankkake http://www.ongamers.com/articles/naniwa-and-scarlett-to-go-head-to-head-in-a-bo7-show-match/1100-306/ [15:30]
ozbot NaNiwa and Scarlett to go head to head in a BO7 show match. - onGamers [15:30]
pankkake I wouldn't call 12 BTC a "showmatch", though they're probably filthy rich already [15:31]
Duffer1 naniwa's probably doing alright even though he's not as good as koreans hehe [15:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15993 @ 0.00089683 = 14.343 BTC [+] {2} [15:32]
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Duffer1 i don't think i've ever seen scarlett play competitively, i saw her casting at homestory cup, she sounds like she knows her game [15:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00295941 = 0.1065 BTC [+] {4} [15:35]
Duffer1 and having sc2 players compete for btc is brilliant [15:35]
pankkake she casted? interesting [15:35]
Duffer1 a couple games only [15:35]
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Duffer1 have you seen homestory cup? everyone gets a turn at the mic [15:36]
pankkake I've been out of the loop [15:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00297839 = 0.3187 BTC [+] {4} [15:37]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.002979 = 0.1936 BTC [+] [15:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00089575 = 3.9861 BTC [-] {2} [15:51]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [15:52]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 900.02, Best ask: 907.76569, Bid-ask spread: 7.74569, Last trade: 896.0, 24 hour volume: 16677.20007426, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 922.16502 [15:52]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.2249 * 922 - 195 [15:52]
gribble 12.3578 [15:52]
mircea_popescu so bitpay is basically charging 2x paypal. [15:53]
pankkake what? [15:54]
pankkake isn't bitpay using bitstamp? [15:54]
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pigeons no they dont [15:56]
pigeons they sell off-exchange [15:56]
ThickAsThieves bitpay will charge whatever they can get away with, just like paypal [15:56]
ThickAsThieves write a blog about the price [15:57]
ThickAsThieves maybe itll go down [15:57]
ThickAsThieves get Bitcoin Magazine to let you do a guest post about how bitpay is a ripoff and how that's bad for the movement [15:58]
ThickAsThieves thatll get Gallipi to pay attention [15:58]
pigeons heh [15:59]
pankkake https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates [15:59]
ozbot Bitcoin Exchange Rates | BitPay [15:59]
pankkake ;;ticker --market bitstamp [15:59]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 877.0, Best ask: 878.38, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 877.0, 24 hour volume: 15931.72888633, 24 hour low: 840.0, 24 hour high: 920.42, 24 hour vwap: 878.24983594 [15:59]
pigeons exchange rates is not what they charge you to process your payments [16:00]
Duffer1 that's actually a pretty good idea tat [16:00]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i don't care that much tbh. [16:01]
asciilifeform " [16:01]
asciilifeform dukedom" sold! http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 [16:01]
ThickAsThieves it goes hand in hand with the argument that a bitcoin ebay cant exist without better prices [16:01]
pigeons well it might be a good idea, but gallipi owns part of bitcoin magazine so good luck getting the article in [16:01]
mircea_popescu i could just email him omg. [16:01]
pankkake their exchange rate is moving quite a lot [16:02]
pankkake so depending on when you click "pay"… you get something different [16:02]
ThickAsThieves mp, you must make a scene [16:02]
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ThickAsThieves this is bitcoin. [16:02]
ThickAsThieves hell, email the forbesy guy [16:03]
ThickAsThieves have him write a half-assed article on it [16:03]
ThickAsThieves his boss will give him a cookie for the story [16:03]
mircea_popescu i think it'd rather shoot some bowside snark and let it be at that lol [16:03]
pigeons heh matonis owns bitcoin magaine too [16:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform wd! [16:04]
ThickAsThieves btc mag has the branding okay, but the content is really off the mark [16:04]
pigeons it used to be unreadable, it seems to have gotten slightly better sometimes? [16:05]
mircea_popescu what;'s the branding, "the trade rag that sucked so bad we had to steal it from the original nuts" ? [16:05]
ThickAsThieves they cant decide whether to be a source for interesting original btc content, shill, or intellectual/sciences theory [16:05]
pigeons i dont think they are interested in the content, they seem like marketers [16:06]
ThickAsThieves the theory articles are often too random in nature [16:06]
ThickAsThieves like it's a place for their nerd friends to wax about their latest idea [16:06]
mircea_popescu usg amirite ? [16:06]
mircea_popescu (usg = user generated content, ftr) [16:07]
mircea_popescu ((ftr = for the record)) [16:07]
ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8696/the-bitpay-boom/ [16:08]
ozbot The BitPay BOOM – Bitcoin Magazine [16:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [16:08]
ThickAsThieves foundation shill shills magazine owner biz, on owners shill mag site [16:08]
mircea_popescu wait, just 50k transactions !? [16:09]
mircea_popescu holy shit for all the hassle that's all !? [16:09]
mircea_popescu nm i take it all back, they can have 6% [16:09]
ThickAsThieves but they have 10000+ merchants [16:09]
pankkake note to bitbet mods whoever they are: remove the "" around Scarlett in the title of the starcraft bet, I messed up (but already sent the wager) [16:09]
ThickAsThieves 5 tx each! [16:09]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you realise avg purchase is probably 0.001 [16:09]
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nubbins` hi [16:10]
ThickAsThieves hey nubs [16:10]
ThickAsThieves you listen to Greg MacPherson at all? [16:10]
pankkake I don't think so. it's a good way to "cash out" your btc without going through the hassle of an exchange [16:10]
pankkake or having $5000+ transactions alerting the tax man [16:10]
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mircea_popescu that's the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. [16:11]
mircea_popescu what in bitpay's structure gives you the delusion of tax immunity ? [16:11]
nubbins` haven't listened to him, nope [16:12]
ThickAsThieves he's canadian [16:12]
ThickAsThieves sorta like prairie rock but very blue collar [16:12]
pankkake for example, in France, any transaction over 5000 EUR gets you tracfin, automatically [16:12]
ThickAsThieves like The Weakerthans with balls [16:12]
mircea_popescu BitPay processed 6,296 bitcoin transactions in a single day, making it the most popular day in the history of bitcoin commerce. On November 29, more than 6% of all transactions on the bitcoin network were spent on goods and services through BitPay’s platform. [16:12]
mircea_popescu lol that's so cute. [16:12]
ThickAsThieves can that even be true? [16:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "The only caveat is that we need KYC on the buyer" [16:14]
mircea_popescu um ? srsly ? [16:14]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's non-mpoe-pr-style pr. you know, like bfl used to do it. [16:14]
asciilifeform there wasn't any KYC nonsense when Mr. M (Curtis Yarvin) spoke to me re: the original award. [16:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00089861 = 7.4585 BTC [+] {3} [16:14]
mircea_popescu but doesn';t this seem a little... strange, so to speak ? [16:15]
asciilifeform i just emailed him my (not a secret at all) meatspace name. [16:15]
asciilifeform and he put me on the urbit-dukes mailing list back in '10. [16:15]
ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOu6e-_qgKE [16:16]
ozbot Greg MacPherson Band - California - YouTube [16:16]
ThickAsThieves good song to smoke anything to [16:16]
pigeons hope the buyer isnt a terrorist [16:16]
nubbins` ah, fun, will check it out [16:16]
mircea_popescu is he moreover using unfortunate terminology to denote "i'd rather know who the fuck the dukes are" ? [16:16]
asciilifeform sumthinglikethat [16:17]
mircea_popescu a i c [16:17]
asciilifeform if you read his original proposals, he regards the dukedoms as an almost literal thing [16:17]
nubbins` ^ [16:17]
nubbins` odd man [16:17]
asciilifeform that one day they will Take Over the World (TM) [16:17]
mircea_popescu i don't take unsigned things to be literal. [16:17]
asciilifeform but i don't think he had caught the pgp train yet, back then. [16:18]
BingoBoingo This Yarvin guy seems like he could use a bit of Vitamin H [16:18]
asciilifeform which is odd, given his background. [16:18]
mircea_popescu haha. i'm pretty certain they blew their one chance to be part of the taking over tghe world crew. [16:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00285044 = 0.3335 BTC [-] {5} [16:18]
asciilifeform as far as i'm concerned, they blew it when they went with 'userspace process on top of unix' when designing 'ab initio computer'. [16:19]
mircea_popescu we know of different things. [16:19]
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asciilifeform see also: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/utp3H7F78so/Dt24fpiT3xcJ [16:20]
nubbins` they blew it when they required the user to cum in the user's own mouth while reading the documentation [16:21]
nubbins` (sry if the convo has moved on) [16:21]
mircea_popescu no, that part is standard fare for computer shit. [16:21]
mircea_popescu satoshi did the same thing. [16:21]
asciilifeform and also https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/4B12WpF1rL0/hYF3YPuqvR8J (rest of thread) [16:22]
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