Forum logs for 13 Apr 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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ben_vulpes	ugh i can't tell if this is allergies or a sickness	[00:46]
ben_vulpes	thanks obama	[00:46]
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ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: can buildroot be coerced to crap out builds of its "packages" in addition to the nixen it builds?	[01:24]
ben_vulpes	seperately from, i suppose i mean	[01:24]
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asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: they get built in their subdirs and then copied	[01:42]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: what exactly did you mean by 'separate' ?	[01:42]
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asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: overall, 'buildroot' is scarcely more than an elaborate 'makefile'. everything you might care to know about it can be learned through reading the docs, the thing itself, and by experiment.	[01:44]
ben_vulpes	'and then copied' << aha! i thought i'd read that somewhere.	[02:00]
ben_vulpes	a vile beast is slowing my mental procs down i think	[02:01]
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kakobrekla	http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aAr25Y2_460s.jpg	[05:24]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1CAczmu )	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	Mr. Oyster lmao	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile in romania,	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	;;google pirsul de padure	[05:25]
gribble	PHON.RO - Accident mortal Filipestii de Padure - YouTube: ; SindromulGoaga.ro \| Colectionez Sindromuri: ; animale salbatice din romania.ppt - Editura EDU:	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	(aka glis glis, aka edible dormouse)	[05:26]
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funkenstein_	scary car crash. i had one in a dream last night too.	[06:59]
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funkenstein_	offhanded comment here about lacan and alt-physics took me on a wild goose chase	[08:50]
funkenstein_	and now he shows up in the latest robert foster rap news	[08:50]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[08:58]
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mircea_popescu	you hadn't heard of that feminist role-model and brilliant woman in tech irigaray before, had you.	[08:58]
funkenstein_	nope	[08:59]
funkenstein_	nor Jaques to be honest with you	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	a well. the educative function of b-a	[09:00]
funkenstein_	thanks nagual	[09:01]
funkenstein_	most of lacan stuff i found seemed like fan literature	[09:02]
funkenstein_	gotta get the originals i suppose	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	lacan is remembered chiefly for two things. the more important was his economic superiority - he was the first talk psych to reduce the session time. he'd charge people for three minutes sort of thing. that made him more productive than his peers.	[09:04]
mircea_popescu	as the expression goes, when hiring a shaman don't hire the "best", hire the cheapest	[09:04]
mircea_popescu	(because they're exactly equally effective, being shamans).	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	conversely : if you're going to con people, take the least time possible. you'll deliver just as much con to each victim, but make more money at it.	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	the less important is his intellectual contribution - he proved conclusively that a "field" with "its own terminology" is not for this purely rhetorical reason respectable.	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	in the process paving the way for the ulterior extirpation from human preoccupations of stuff like "social studies".	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	generally, the more brilliant derps in any bogus field are the ones that'll finally sink it. he's chiefly the reason us pseudo-sicence of the mind went the way of pills.	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	back in the 60s and 70s it was looking like muchly the other way. but today, scientology is a barely surviving holdout of those olden days of talk psych.	[09:08]
funkenstein_	really? does that assume people read et en français aussi?	[09:08]
mircea_popescu	if americans didn't read french, how exactly would you imagine all the "new concepts" they publish would be made ?	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	need something to shanonize, yo. "radical honesty" herp-derp.	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	clever's rules or what was it.	[09:09]
funkenstein_	plagiarize, plagiarize, only be sure to call it: research	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	"i am the only person in this country that can sort-of grasp the meaning of long french phrases	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	except for all the other people also making their living out of badly translated french maculature."	[09:10]
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funkenstein_	compare "science et vie" to "discovery¨ .. you will see some differences	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	i've never actually read either	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	i much prefer cosmo. at least there's women.	[09:11]
funkenstein_	lol but i don't believe you	[09:12]
funkenstein_	how about, compare paris.backpage to newyork.backpage	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	mm	[09:13]
funkenstein_	i haven't tried that	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	wassat ?	[09:13]
funkenstein_	srsly?	[09:14]
funkenstein_	in other news: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-civilizations-that-mysteriously-disappeared.php	[09:18]
assbot	Top 10 Civilizations That Mysteriously Disappeared - Toptenz.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1H06C7h )	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	mmmkay.	[09:19]
funkenstein_	mircea_popescu have you been approached by publishers for trilemma content yet?	[09:20]
mircea_popescu	myeah	[09:20]
funkenstein_	good good :)	[09:21]
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nubbins`	funkenstein_ you could at least spell it the romanian way ;p	[09:43]
nubbins`	also http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099211 vs http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099211	[09:44]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 12:03:13; funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi?	[09:44]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 12:03:13; funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi?	[09:44]
nubbins`	wait wat	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	uh	[09:45]
nubbins`	log says "fran?ais" in my browser and log1 says "franais"	[09:45]
nubbins`	neither says "français"	[09:45]
mircea_popescu	maybe your brokser sucks ?	[09:45]
nubbins`	maybe!!!	[09:45]
nubbins`	hok kould i even knok tho?	[09:45]
mircea_popescu	no see, brokser because it's a broken browser.	[09:46]
nubbins`	oo.	[09:46]
nubbins`	browen brokser ;/	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	pretty good name for a dutchman	[09:46]
nubbins`	browen brokser's dutch seed bank	[09:46]
nubbins`	top quality - autoflowering - feminized	[09:47]
nubbins`	i like	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	kid to pregnant woman, puts hand on belly. "what's in here ?" "oh, I'm going to have a little baby"	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	"but do you love it ?" "of course i do!"	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	"then why did you eat it ?"	[09:47]
nubbins`	heh	[09:47]
nubbins`	i was thinking "but you already had one! aren't you full?"	[09:48]
nubbins`	cleveland in two days. i should find my passport	[09:48]
nubbins`	!up Vexual	[09:48]
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mircea_popescu	either that or write to the canadian army general staff]	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	"dear sirs, im sick of having to look for my passport. go invade cleveland already"	[09:49]
nubbins`	some years ago, my father showed me this "certification booklet" that he carried as part of his job (gov marine safety inspections)	[09:49]
nubbins`	it was actually comical how many more security features it had than my passport	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:50]
nubbins`	veual i thought it was for the benefit of the lazy who'd sacrifice yield for ease	[09:50]
nubbins`	*vexual	[09:50]
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nubbins`	https://denarium.com/	[09:53]
assbot	Denarium Bitcoin \| Affordable Physical Bitcoins ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMcH1 )	[09:53]
nubbins`	^ watch an asshole use his bare hands to handle product	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	affordable!	[09:56]
nubbins`	right?	[09:56]
nubbins`	further criticism from me here: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2015/04/13#l1428929251	[09:57]
assbot	BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMvBE )	[09:57]
nubbins`	tldr: they suck and the makers should end it all	[09:57]
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nubbins`	prince albert chain? you can prolly guess	[09:57]
funkenstein_	40.2 millies is pretty cheap for a compromised privkey	[09:58]
funkenstein_	thanks for correction nubbins face palm	[09:58]
nubbins`	funkenstein_ is it cheap for a /finnish/ compromised privkey?	[09:58]
nubbins`	o and hey, any time	[09:58]
nubbins`	srsly tho what's fun to do in cleveland?	[09:59]
funkenstein_	all caps	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	who's eggwich	[09:59]
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nubbins`	some guy	[10:02]
nubbins`	wait maybe it's a chick	[10:03]
nubbins`	bought some art off me at one point iirc	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	you make art ?!	[10:04]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu >8(	[10:05]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[10:05]
nubbins`	;;ud beard cake	[10:10]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beard+Cake \| The simple combination of beard shaving, and cake baking. This term refers to the act of oneself shaving their beard into cake batter, and presenting the final ...	[10:10]
nubbins`	oh wow	[10:12]
nubbins`	notbad.jpg	[10:12]
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nubbins`	in the game he's shameless, even uses the codename famous amos	[10:18]
nubbins`	!up Vexual	[10:18]
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nubbins`	;;google in the game he's shameless, even uses the codename famous amos	[10:19]
gribble	MF Doom-Kookies - YouTube: ; MF DOOM – Kookies Lyrics \| Genius: ; Character Aliases that Marvel and DC Have Both Used:	[10:19]
nubbins`	worth listening to, purely for the number of food/sex double entendres	[10:20]
nubbins`	hell, mp might even get a chuckle	[10:20]
nubbins`	"sodom, they got 'em with they curls out, even got a better sales pitch than the girl scouts"	[10:21]
nubbins`	nb.gif	[10:21]
nubbins`	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdgAyzHx5Y	[10:22]
assbot	Sufjan Stevens [Full Official Album] - Seven Swans - IndieMusicAddict - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FNUox1 )	[10:22]
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nubbins`	i'm tempted to call you one for owning a blackberry	[10:28]
nubbins`	oh hill-clint	[10:28]
nubbins`	https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/hillary-clinton-womens-rights-feminism/	[10:28]
assbot	Hillary Clinton’s Empowerment \| Jacobin ... ( http://bit.ly/1FNUUuT )	[10:28]
funkenstein_	speaking of which, a bar joke i heard last night, whats the difference between marmalade and jam?	[10:28]
nubbins`	funkenstein_ iirc marmalade is stickier	[10:29]
nubbins`	wat, it also contains peels.	[10:29]
funkenstein_	you can't marmalade your cock in someone's ass	[10:29]
funkenstein_	unexpected obscenity = good bar joke	[10:31]
funkenstein_	irc = not the place, sorry	[10:31]
nubbins`	"Walmart executives have continued to look favorably on her, with Alice Walton donating the maximum amount to the “Ready for Hillary” Super PAC in 2013. Walton’s $25,000 donation was considerably higher than the average annual salary for Walmart’s hourly employees"	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	!up HostFat	[10:32]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` uh i dun follow.	[10:32]
funkenstein_	you know the one about the prisoner sentenced to death, who was told it would be one day this week but not a day he expects?	[10:32]
HostFat	hi	[10:32]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu it's an article in jacobin, you're not supposed to follow	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	aok	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	ello HostFat	[10:33]
HostFat	I've nothing to say now, I was just lurking :)	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	funkenstein_ yes.	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	actually iirc was even discussed in the log, of all places, somewhat recently.	[10:33]
funkenstein_	nice	[10:34]
funkenstein_	;;google deploys hillary clinton	[10:34]
gribble	U.S. Condemned For Pre-Emptive Use Of Hillary Clinton Against ...: ; How should Hillary Clinton deploy Bill in 2016? - CSMonitor.com: ; NRCC Deploys Clinton's Email Saga In Maloney (1 more message)	[10:34]
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nubbins`	facepalm	[10:35]
nubbins`	i may not actually let this guy stay the rest of the month	[10:35]
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nubbins`	this is almost as retarded as leaving the front door not only unlocked, but actually /not fully closed/, a total of 8 times so far /this year/	[10:37]
nubbins`	or a straight-razor	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	you share a kitchen ?	[10:38]
nubbins`	it's a one-kitchen sort of house	[10:39]
nubbins`	Vexual i prefer parchment paper	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	suppose dude has syphilis ?	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	generally sharing a kitchen and sharing a woman is about the same scenario.	[10:40]
nubbins`	o.O	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	this never occured to you ?!	[10:40]
*	nubbins` imagines MP unwrapping bar of soap, using once, putting in trash	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	the bathroom is actually lower on the list than most things.	[10:41]
nubbins`	like the doorknobs	[10:41]
nubbins`	we share those too	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	there's a major difference between "stuff goes in" and everything else.	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ?	[10:42]
nubbins`	what am i going to catch from a /fork/ that i'm not exposing myself to by eating at a restaurant?	[10:42]
mircea_popescu	restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down	[10:43]
nubbins`	o.O	[10:43]
nubbins`	does b-a share restaurant inspection reports online?	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	this also never occured to you ?	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	it's not a matter of online. hospitals report infections, disease control tracks them.	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	you get shut down within days.	[10:43]
nubbins`	o, within days.	[10:43]
nubbins`	that's probably good enough.	[10:43]
funkenstein_	if you are looking for exposure to local pathogens, nothing beats a nursery	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	probably.	[10:44]
nubbins`	after all, it's not like anyone else would use the syphilis fork in that time frame	[10:44]
funkenstein_	re: syphilis fork, is that a coin?	[10:45]
nubbins`	brb but i legitimately am curious as to how you think i can catch a disease from a clean fork	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	hand made.	[10:45]
funkenstein_	lol	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` what i said was that the kitchen's the worst place to share with some whoever. it is.	[10:45]
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mircea_popescu	and that it's about on par with sharing a woman. which it also is.	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	other than that... have fun neh ?	[10:46]
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nubbins`	no i got what you said	[10:49]
nubbins`	it's just the logic doesn't follow	[10:49]
nubbins`	!up Vexual	[10:49]
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mircea_popescu	let's see what other logic doesn't follow.	[10:51]
mircea_popescu	are you aware for instance that women are a good degree of magnitude more likely to catch something from men, than men from women ?	[10:51]
nubbins`	what's included in the set of {something}? a wink? syphilis?	[10:53]
mircea_popescu	venereal disease.	[10:55]
nubbins`	my flagging interest begs you to continue	[10:55]
mircea_popescu	what's to continue lol. you've never bothered to think about contagion, which is excusable seeing how you're no biologist.	[10:56]
nubbins`	again, how is this different from eating at a restaurant	[10:56]
nubbins`	or do you pack your own chopsticks?	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	how is sex different from eating at a restaurant ?	[10:57]
nubbins`	you don't cum when you're finished eating	[10:58]
mircea_popescu	so then.	[10:58]
nubbins`	so then nothing	[10:58]
nubbins`	an ellipsis isn't an argument	[10:58]
nubbins`	no kidding	[10:59]
nubbins`	anyway, despite the fact that this guy works as a cook at various 4-star restaurants	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	what ellipsis!	[10:59]
nubbins`	his meals while at home consist entirely of take-out fish & chips and chicken fingers	[10:59]
nubbins`	the ellipsis you forgot to add after your "so then"	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	dude you asked me how sex is different from eating at a restaurant, and then answered yourself.	[11:00]
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nubbins`	sure did	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	i wonder what four star means in canada	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	afaik the most stars you can get was three.	[11:01]
nubbins`	haha wait i'm thinking of hotels.	[11:01]
nubbins`	i think three stars is the most a restaurant can get	[11:01]
nubbins`	anyway. the place was voted canada's best restaurant a couple years in a row	[11:02]
nubbins`	and this guy leaves the front door open and chicken fingers in the oven overnight	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	weird.	[11:02]
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funkenstein_	http://www.academia.edu/11791336/Bitcoin_as_Politics_Distributed_Right-Wing_Extremism	[11:06]
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nubbins`	lel meanwhile in two dog land: http://imgur.com/3FOH9mj	[11:07]
assbot	Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1O6E3W7 )	[11:07]
nubbins`	plz to not those are NOT cops on horses, which you see often enough, but what appear to be private citizens	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile in my inbox : http://dpaste.com/2ZVFFMN	[11:10]
assbot	dpaste: 2ZVFFMN ... ( http://bit.ly/1DBdIy6 )	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	1. blockchain info sends out spam ? 2. with retarded "cc to undisclosed/bcc to victim" stuff ? 3. and has some "communications officer" that can't spell ? 4. and wait, wut, "tell us how many moneyz and we'll tell you numerous numbers" business model ?!	[11:11]
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nubbins`	seriously though how do you leave 8 chicken fingers in the oven?	[11:24]
nubbins`	it wasn't even turned on.	[11:24]
nubbins`	so the guy cooked them, turned the oven off, then... went to bed at 7am	[11:25]
nubbins`	talk about coked out of your fucking head :p	[11:25]
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funkenstein_	some people get upset when i point out coffee is more addictive than cocaine	[11:40]
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funkenstein_	that sounds like more of an alcohol related move anyway	[11:42]
funkenstein_	i cooked some ramen noodles once and passed out	[11:43]
funkenstein_	i woke up they were gone	[11:43]
funkenstein_	distribued in a few micron layer around my apartment	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	wut ?	[11:45]
funkenstein_	the ramen?	[11:46]
funkenstein_	turned to smoke and settled evenly around the room	[11:46]
funkenstein_	CVD	[11:46]
mircea_popescu	mk...	[11:49]
nubbins`	funkenstein_ 4 beer in the fridge, 2 empties by the garbage	[11:49]
nubbins`	not drunk	[11:49]
nubbins`	awake at 7am after opening the first beer at 11pm? probably coked up	[11:50]
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pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099374 << if only it were so simple.	[11:54]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 13:37:43; mircea_popescu: restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down	[11:54]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski i figured i'd leave that one for someone who wants to put in the time	[11:55]
nubbins`	mp has obv never worked in a restaurant kitchen :P	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	i actually ran a coupla o.O	[11:55]
nubbins`	if you shut 'em down within a day of them failing inspection, you're the 1%	[11:56]
pete_dushenski	given that incubation periods for common foodborne pathogens range from 1-7 days, that people have varying susceptibilities and that most people eat out somewhat frequently, it's hard to isolate the source	[11:56]
nubbins`	srsly, online inspection reports. you'd be shocked	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	that never happened.	[11:56]
pete_dushenski	ya, it's almost impossible to be shut down on the spot	[11:57]
nubbins`	how often did you resurface the cutting boards?	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski not as hard as it was for this guy to figure out the cook leaves the door open eh ?	[11:57]
pete_dushenski	you'd need dozens of sick people	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` end of day.	[11:57]
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nubbins`	now you're in the 0.1% :D	[11:57]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: leaves the door open and... rat comes in ?	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski it was a comparative, he keeps tring to worm it into an absolute.	[11:57]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski that was a reference to my idiot roomie	[11:58]
nubbins`	he has a problem with securing the domicile	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` nah, just, wood stuff was cheap. you'd go through multiple sets each year np	[11:58]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu plastic/resin cutting boards are more common here	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	you'd have been hanged for using plastic.	[11:58]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: daily resurfacing of cutting boards ??	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	yup.	[11:59]
nubbins`	when they finally put restaurant inspection reports online for people to read, every single restaurant i've ever eaten at was given a citation for cutting boards needing resurfacing	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	special machine shaved a layer	[11:59]
pete_dushenski	holy sweet mother of public health	[11:59]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski essentially you just plane 'em	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	cheap dude. srsly.	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	^	[11:59]
nubbins`	thick board'll last you a while	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	bout 7-8 weeks iirc	[11:59]
pete_dushenski	we need those here	[12:00]
nubbins`	!up Vexual	[12:00]
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pete_dushenski	specially at the chinese restaurants	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	fucking canada, you ran out of trees ?	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	stop publish so much perish, yo!	[12:00]
pete_dushenski	we're up to our gills in plastic	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	plastic was very dimly regarded.	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	most of the fridge pots were actually clay.	[12:00]
nubbins`	i also wear socks more than once	[12:01]
pete_dushenski	fridge pots here are plastic or glass	[12:01]
nubbins`	incidentally, my favourite chinese take-out was not listed in the restaurant inspection reports	[12:01]
nubbins`	at all.	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	glass works, but clay has this superb thermic inertia	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	heavier tho	[12:01]
nubbins`	clay does indeed	[12:02]
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mircea_popescu	the advantage is you can have it made in any shape for little effort.	[12:02]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: so fridge shelves i guess	[12:02]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: *stronger!	[12:02]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski its fucking steel anyway.	[12:02]
mircea_popescu	dun tell me. plastic shelves ?	[12:02]
pete_dushenski	lol how'd you know ?	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	eh for chrissakes.	[12:03]
nubbins`	also fwiw i made kimchi day before yes, ~5th batch so far, anyone who likes food and is halfway handy in the kitchen is strongly encouraged to try making some	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	you know, it's a restaurant, not bottlecaps united.	[12:03]
nubbins`	*yest	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` it makes in two days ?!	[12:03]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: of course the walk-in fridges have metal grill shelving	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	the fermented cabagge stuff i like is 5 months	[12:03]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu the fermentation is just starting it.	[12:04]
nubbins`	i won't eat this util late april at the earliest	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	ahok	[12:04]
nubbins`	older is better but i honestly can't wait	[12:04]
nubbins`	i usually let it ferment at 20C for 4-5 days to get it going	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` for the record, traditional (european) cooking happened around this large flat table of very thick oak	[12:04]
nubbins`	fridge after that, most of the heavy lifting's done	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	women (the young ones) brushed it with a steel brush each evening.	[12:05]
nubbins`	a	[12:05]
mircea_popescu	and the pots and pans each week.	[12:05]
*	pete_dushenski is still in shock over these fucking cutting board planing machines...	[12:05]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski imagine my face the first time i saw a squeegee sharpening machine	[12:05]
mircea_popescu	lol	[12:06]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: i can barely imagine your face the first time you bought a bitcoin	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	anyway, to not peel off more than is fair : i rather distantly ran the kitchen, by virtue of ownership. it did have a chief cook and everything.	[12:06]
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nubbins`	pete_dushenski it looked kind of like this: baked.jpg	[12:07]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: was this before or after 'retirement' ?	[12:07]
mircea_popescu	way before.	[12:07]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu the vast majority of fooderies are staffed by 19-20yo's with clueless managers	[12:07]
nubbins`	you're lucky to have 2 full time employees who know what they're at	[12:07]
mircea_popescu	i was not exactly clueless and very scary. the heads were in either case male, over 40.	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	the rest i dun really recall that clearly.	[12:08]
nubbins`	you need 'em to be over 40	[12:08]
nubbins`	35 at the very least	[12:08]
pete_dushenski	over 40 would be unheard of here	[12:08]
pete_dushenski	unless they're the owner	[12:08]
nubbins`	knowing wtf you're at would be unheard of as well	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	one guy wore a little chiffon thing over his moustache	[12:09]
nubbins`	hahaha	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	i STILL chuckle when i remember that	[12:09]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: for the same reason	[12:09]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu i've seen a fair share of beard nets around	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	duder had a kickass moustache. hungarian.	[12:09]
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pete_dushenski	haha like a 'stache condom	[12:09]
nubbins`	always a good chortle	[12:09]
nubbins`	so bozo rolls downstairs, finds his cold chicken fingers on the counter	[12:10]
pete_dushenski	doods over 40 here are working for the gov or working in the patch	[12:10]
nubbins`	chuckles, throws dirty cookie sheet, in sink, smuggles food back up to bedroom	[12:10]
pete_dushenski	kitchen 'isn't respectable' for a man that age	[12:10]
pete_dushenski	because there are options	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	meh. people who are good at it are very happy there, i've found.	[12:10]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski if there's one way that north america fucked itself in the ass, it's the concept of "respectable work"	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	i could never get a competent cook to even contemplate anything else.	[12:11]
nubbins`	20 years of "if you don't study hard, you'll have to work at mcdonald's"	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	tbf mcdo is not a restaurant	[12:11]
nubbins`	followed by x years of "what, you're too good to work at mcdonald's?"	[12:11]
nubbins`	o no, not even close to one.	[12:11]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: lol yea	[12:11]
nubbins`	imagine this though	[12:11]
nubbins`	the major employer of youth	[12:11]
nubbins`	and the youth spend their youth being told they're a piece of shit if they work there	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	this sounds exactly puritan to me.	[12:12]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: well mebbe that's what more men here need to do to be happy ?	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	point of woman bits is to get pregnant. what's woman supposed to do with her bits ?	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	ANYTHING BUT!	[12:12]
nubbins`	you go to japan, nobody working at the mcdonald's is sullen or put out	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski what, finding something they can be good at ? mmmmyeah...	[12:12]
pete_dushenski	precisely.	[12:12]
pete_dushenski	instead job is for making money	[12:13]
pete_dushenski	and after-hours is for enjoyment	[12:13]
nubbins`	^ so broken	[12:13]
pete_dushenski	and skill isn't particularly part of the equation	[12:13]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: i dun get the 'anything but pregnancy' thing ?	[12:15]
nubbins`	speaking of jacobin magazine, i once read an essay therein which expounded upon the implicit oppression in the statement "do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life"	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski most demographically stable and psychologically sane cultures i've ever seen welcome pregnancy in young women.	[12:15]
nubbins`	pretty sure i won the disrespect of at least half a dozen people by tearing strips off that one	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	except, of course, for teh english speakers. WORST DISASTER	[12:15]
pete_dushenski	aha	[12:16]
nubbins`	but is that manufactured happiness?	[12:16]
nubbins`	(protip: doesn't matter!)	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	well it's penifactured	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` what i don't get with all the libertards is why exactly they imagine oppression is a bad thing.	[12:17]
mats	i had a fun dream last night: diplomats resolving disputes with pistols and a shootout in a department store	[12:17]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: nubbins`it's that pain in general is bad, and to be avoided	[12:18]
mats	crawling around coat racks killing italians. woke up when my beretta jammed and i died, go figure	[12:18]
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mircea_popescu	mats any good coats ?	[12:18]
mats	which movie?	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	your dream.	[12:19]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu because narcissism?	[12:20]
mats	im an IT guy, i have no idea what good coats look like	[12:20]
nubbins`	mats they look like the coats you see people wearing when you say to yourself "i bet that was expensive"	[12:20]
nubbins`	oh man. this paper place in brooklyn totally has all my business going forward	[12:28]
nubbins`	so i neglect to order this batch of paper on time. gotta have it in-hand this week. i choose the $220 shipping option on the website because it's the cheapest option beyond UPS ground.	[12:28]
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nubbins`	they call me an hour later: "this other method will get it there in 3 days, we'll do it for $130"	[12:29]
nubbins`	with customer service like this, IDGAF that they were closed for a week for passover	[12:29]
nubbins`	Vexual think far enough ahead and you'll find yourself in the woods with a bucksaw	[12:30]
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nubbins`	!up Vexual	[12:31]
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nubbins`	assbot didn't like that one	[12:31]
nubbins`	"Some observers have argued that Clinton’s repetition of the Democratic slogan that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare”reinforces the stigmatization of those who choose that option."	[12:31]
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nubbins`	pop quiz: what are the major points of canada's abortion laws?	[12:32]
nubbins`	heh	[12:35]
nubbins`	trick question. no laws on the books concerning abortion in any way, shape, or form.	[12:35]
mircea_popescu	abortion should be rare tho.	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	sorta like swallowing glass shards.	[12:37]
nubbins`	yeah, i think taking issue with the word "rare" is sort of missing the point	[12:38]
nubbins`	probably on purpose	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[12:38]
nubbins`	imagine: "abortion should be safe, legal, and commonplace:	[12:38]
nubbins`	"	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	imagine something else : what the same "observers" (= famished idiots trying to make money out of blather) would have said in that case.	[12:39]
nubbins`	anyway. you can get an abortion in canada a week before your due date, if you can convince a doctor to give you one	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	"oppressive heternormativeness forcing women tyo be pregnant!11"	[12:39]
nubbins`	(protip: you probably can't)	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	i certainl;y couldn't.	[12:39]
nubbins`	vous, not tu	[12:40]
nubbins`	i don't think a nurse practitioner would do it	[12:40]
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nubbins`	not even a "body mod practitioner"	[12:40]
nubbins`	;;google todd bertrang	[12:41]
gribble	Todd Bertrang - BME: Tattoo, Piercing and Body Modification News: ; The Entrapment and Imprisonment of Todd Bertrang - BME: Tattoo ...: ; Conversations with Luna: Todd Bertrang - YouTube: (1 more message)	[12:41]
nubbins`	i wonder what todd bertrang is up to these days	[12:43]
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nubbins`	i recall taking some terrible advice of his at one point in the past	[12:44]
nubbins`	wait, no, that was tom brazda's advice	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	"The only reason that John Delorean avoided a long term prison sentence is that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt was able to obtain tapes showing not only that the drug trafficking idea was invented and proposed by the US government, but that both the cocaine and the money were provided FBI, and most importantly, that John Delorean told the undercover agents that he wasn’t interested and begged to be let go — the tape	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	s show the agents actually threatening to kill John Delorean’s daughter if he didn’t proceed with the drug deal. It should also be noted that Larry Flynt was briefly imprisoned for contempt of court for revealing this information."	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	where's these tapes then ?	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	"At age forty, he was almost single-handedly responsible for the popularity of female genital modification, which, largely due to his promotion of it, had moved out of the fetish scene and become a lucrative business for cosmetic surgeons.	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	While many outsiders disapproved of Todd’s methods and highly sexual lifestyle, the vast majority of Todd’s clients — all consensual of course — spoke extremely highly of him and were very happy with the work he’d done on them."	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	lolk	[12:46]
nubbins`	http://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/10/us/hustler-publisher-tells-judge-delorean-tape-was-a-fake.html	[12:48]
assbot	HUSTLER PUBLISHER TELLS JUDGE DELOREAN TAPE WAS A FAKE - NYTimes.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO57Yq )	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[12:48]
nubbins`	true flynt style	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[12:48]
nubbins`	Under questioning from James Walsh, an Assistant United States Attorney, Mr. Flynt said he got the tape from a mystery man he identified only as ''the samurai.''	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	somehow the bme people don't seem to have heard of this tho.	[12:49]
nubbins`	hahaha	[12:49]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu dem blinders	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	"John Delorean recently died destitute, having failed to bring his dream car back to market.	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	That brings us to piercer and cutter Todd Bertrang, a regular BME contributor that was first profiled in PFIQ magazine."	[12:49]
nubbins`	larratt was a whitewasher like no other	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	slightly dishonest, aite	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	here's a picture of a cute cat. this brings us to your daugther. she's a slut.	[12:49]
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mircea_popescu	"Ask yourselves: how far would you compromise your ethics for $20 million? That’s an amount of money so high that you’d be able to fulfill all your dreams and live in luxury for the rest of your life. At how many million dollars does your cracking point lie?"	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	dude... gtfo. a) 20mn isn't even a house. b) investment is investment. they're not gifting him 20mn.	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	i need 20mn in loans like i need another glass of water. if i want it i'll get it myself.	[12:50]
nubbins`	nevermind that this family can't fly back to egypt but will pay $20mn to cut off some flaps	[12:50]
nubbins`	the number of people who cared when bertrang was arrested? epsilon	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	"And then, before letting him decide whether or not he’d actually make such an ethical compromise, in late 2002 the FBI raided his house, and Todd Bertrang and his girlfriend Robyn have been in prison ever since. No real evidence was ever presented against them, and no trial was ever held. Virtually no one stood up to defend Todd, and even those who supported of him cowered cautiously, fearing that they would be next	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	. Robyn was threatened with the loss of her daughter, and eventually the two of them, being told they would be spending the rest of their lives in prison should they plead not guilty, chose to make a false confession on a variety of charges in exchange for reduced time."	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	idiots.	[12:51]
nubbins`	entrapment or not	[12:51]
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nubbins`	iirc, the whole "mods" vs "practicing medicine w/o license" thing was a BIG DEAL in the usa at the time	[12:52]
nubbins`	guy was destined for jail either way	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	"Felon in Possession of a Firearm	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	Alright, that one is probably legitimate, although Todd claims that it’s more a matter of confusion and not being told that it was an issue — thanks to America’s lax laws on gun purchases, no red flags showed up when he bought a handgun for home protection and he never considered at the time it was a problem."	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha. top kek.	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	NOW we find out the guy had priors ?	[12:53]
nubbins`	heh	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	kinda late.	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	and conveniently not mentioned.	[12:54]
nubbins`	http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/decode/11/5/V/1114A	[12:54]
assbot	DEL CODE § 1114A : Delaware Code - Section 1114A: TONGUE-SPLITTING; CLASS A MISDEMEANOR; CLASS B MISDEMEANOR; CLASS G FELONY; ADDITIONAL CIVIL PENALTIES ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO5EcT )	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	i'ma assume it's rape, assault with a deadly weapon, three counts of arson and some insurance fraud	[12:54]
nubbins`	"Tongue-splitting in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor." heh	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	uh...	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	"(c) Any person found guilty of a second or subsequent violation of this section is guilty of a class G felony for such second or subsequent offense."	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	anyway, tongue's a pretty dangerous infection spot.	[12:55]
nubbins`	in fact, tongue heals itself remarkably quickly	[12:55]
nubbins`	the biggest danger with tongue splittings is having them.... unsplit	[12:55]
nubbins`	if you DO get an infection, yes, your head's a terrible place to get one	[12:56]
nubbins`	but happens much less often than you'd think	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	everything happens a lot more than people who don't think think.	[12:57]
nubbins`	hey, i said than YOU'D think.	[12:57]
nubbins`	tu, not vous 8)	[12:57]
nubbins`	consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths	[12:58]
nubbins`	dem chipped teeth	[12:59]
nubbins`	quickest piercings to heal tho	[12:59]
nubbins`	again, because the tongue is designed to heal incredibly quickly	[13:00]
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nubbins`	!up Vexual	[13:02]
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nubbins`	ugh, all i get on youtube now are ads for QuadrigaCX	[13:02]
nubbins`	*is ads	[13:02]
nubbins`	BREAKING: RNC Chief Bill Janes has ordered an internal investigation into the leak of an email written by the officer who shot Don Dunphy in Mitchells Brook last week	[13:05]
nubbins`	lel.	[13:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199514 @ 0.00029438 = 58.7329 BTC [+] {2}	[13:05]
nubbins`	guy sends an email to EVERY EMPLOYEE of the police force and we're surprised it got out?	[13:05]
nubbins`	Vexual Common Lisp, tho, or Scheme?	[13:05]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/don-dunphy-case-rnc-investigating-leak-of-officer-s-email-1.3030527	[13:07]
assbot	Don Dunphy case: RNC investigating leak of officer's email - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO6I0q )	[13:07]
nubbins`	the email in question can be viewed here, in case anyone's wondering how a cop would try to whitewash a murder to his colleagues: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/rnc-officer-who-shot-don-dunphy-wishes-better-intervention-possible-1.3027828	[13:08]
assbot	RNC officer who shot Don Dunphy wishes better intervention possible - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO6N42 )	[13:08]
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pete_dushenski	;;later tell BingoBoingo qntsideration : http://dpaste.com/2VQ0JX4.txt	[13:17]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[13:17]
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pete_dushenski	;;later tell cazalla and yours! http://dpaste.com/0SGW1HY.txt	[13:19]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[13:19]
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pete_dushenski	nubbins`: that cop is pretty fucked.	[13:22]
pete_dushenski	"i wish i didn't have a kill a dude for writing a tweet"	[13:23]
pete_dushenski	"but there was obviously no other way to shut him up"	[13:23]
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nubbins`	he sure is	[13:26]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "EUR/USD Parity in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1111/ Odds: 82(Y):18(N) by coin, 80(Y):20(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.10203517 BTC. Current weight: 76,182.	[13:28]
pete_dushenski	wow spieth made $1.8 mn yesterday. nb for a 21 yo.	[13:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 208800 @ 0.00029943 = 62.521 BTC [+] {2}	[13:31]
pete_dushenski	and rose failing to get up and down on 18 cost him what... $300k ?	[13:31]
pete_dushenski	dat inflation i tell ya, a major was maybe a cool million 10 years ago	[13:32]
pete_dushenski	^golf tawk for curious log readers	[13:32]
pete_dushenski	i really don't follow it anymore but happened to catch the last hole of the tournament at the health club yesterday	[13:33]
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*	nubbins` seriously considers putting all of roomie's possessions out on the sidewalk	[13:34]
nubbins`	it actually bothers me more, the closer it gets to the end of the money	[13:35]
nubbins`	*month	[13:35]
nubbins`	money too tho, heh.	[13:35]
pete_dushenski	you gonna toss his plastic cutting boards to the curb ?	[13:36]
nubbins`	he doesn't own any cutting boards	[13:36]
pete_dushenski	"An examination of its tail may reveal whether the father or the mother was keeping those eggs warm, offering new clues about the social lives of those dinosaurs. It may also reveal where feathers came from, since oviraptors didn't fly and aren't that closely related to the dinosaurs that gave rise to birds, Persons added. "This tells us that in fact complex feathers first originated not for flight or for glidin	[13:36]
pete_dushenski	g, but for socials or sexual displays." "	[13:36]
pete_dushenski	^in fact!	[13:36]
nubbins`	birds, the sexiest dinosaurs of all	[13:36]
pete_dushenski	such science these paleotards	[13:37]
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pete_dushenski	though i suppose it's not an unreasonable assumption to say that feathers were +ev for mating before anything else, calling it 'a fact' is a bit loose	[13:37]
pete_dushenski	meh i nitpick.	[13:38]
nubbins`	maybe he meant to say "in theory"	[13:38]
nubbins`	or "hypothetically"	[13:38]
nubbins`	or "anecdotal evidence seems to suggest"	[13:38]
nubbins`	after all, what is the plural of anecdote if not fact?	[13:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 284750 @ 0.00029982 = 85.3737 BTC [+] {3}	[13:38]
nubbins`	besides, pete, how you gonna get those sweet research bucks if you're not claiming facts?	[13:41]
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pete_dushenski	i wonder who funds research into dinofeathers	[13:43]
pete_dushenski	shell ? gov ?	[13:43]
pete_dushenski	or just old doods who made a buck along the way and think that dinosaurs are neato	[13:43]
pete_dushenski	perhaps wishing that someone would care that much about their old bones someday	[13:44]
nubbins`	brb jazz cig	[13:48]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski probably universities who say "hey, this researcher is interested in X, and if he publishes some papers, we get $Y"	[13:48]
nubbins`	"this is totally Z!"	[13:48]
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pete_dushenski	lol	[13:52]
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nubbins`	cut the cloth you have in front of you, or w/e the fuck	[14:00]
nubbins`	not like the lead researcher is gonna produce a paper worth shitting on if they don't care what the research is about :D	[14:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162828 @ 0.00030024 = 48.8875 BTC [+] {2}	[14:05]
ben_vulpes	http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton	[14:14]
assbot	the button ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkbDrV )	[14:14]
pete_dushenski	'you must log in'	[14:16]
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pete_dushenski	"Amazon Echo is designed around your voice. It's always on—just ask for information, music, news, weather, and more. Echo begins working as soon as it detects the wake word."	[14:18]
pete_dushenski	"add gelato to my shopping list"	[14:18]
jurov	;;isup trilema.com	[14:19]
gribble	trilema.com is down	[14:19]
pete_dushenski	"wikipedia: abraham lincoln"	[14:19]
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jurov	mircea_popescu: ^ same here since yest	[14:19]
pete_dushenski	"turn off the lights"	[14:19]
ben_vulpes	"echo: produce me a steak"	[14:19]
ben_vulpes	jurov: there's fallout from the fetlife brouhaha	[14:19]
ben_vulpes	dc nulled trilema's ip	[14:19]
williamdunne	ben_vulpes: fetlife?	[14:20]
pete_dushenski	of note, i never say "turn off the lights" but rather "close the lights"	[14:20]
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pete_dushenski	the french "ferme les lumieres" has gibbled my english	[14:20]
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chetty	whos coming to the conf that I can twist their arm for a favor?	[14:21]
ben_vulpes	whatcha need, chetty?	[14:21]
pete_dushenski	williamdunne: it's in the logs	[14:21]
ben_vulpes	!s fetlife	[14:21]
assbot	41 results for 'fetlife' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fetlife	[14:21]
williamdunne	!s fetlife	[14:21]
ben_vulpes	williamdunne: see above	[14:21]
assbot	41 results for 'fetlife' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fetlife	[14:21]
williamdunne	Oops	[14:21]
williamdunne	Thanks	[14:21]
chetty	some kelp/iodine tablets :)	[14:22]
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ben_vulpes	http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-150mcg-Natural-Tablets/dp/B0001T0CL2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428945438&sr=8-1&keywords=kelp+iodine+tablets << like this?	[14:22]
assbot	Amazon.com: Now Foods Kelp, 150mcg of Natural Iodine, 200 Tablets: Health & Personal Care ... ( http://bit.ly/1zahTvo )	[14:22]
pete_dushenski	i dunno why anyone would want to talk to a computer instead of type into it	[14:23]
ben_vulpes	it's not a computer, pete_dushenski	[14:23]
pete_dushenski	what else are they doing around their house that's occupying their hands ? changing diapers ?	[14:23]
ben_vulpes	it's the foooooooture	[14:23]
chetty	yup ben_vulpes something like that would be perfect :)	[14:23]
ben_vulpes	you got it chetty	[14:24]
chetty	my hero :)	[14:24]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: i'll be damned if i let 7 microphones connected to teh cloud in ma house	[14:24]
williamdunne	http://web.archive.org/web/http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/ *	[14:25]
williamdunne	Sorry.*	[14:25]
williamdunne	This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.	[14:25]
assbot	Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zai89E )	[14:25]
williamdunne	lol	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00030027 = 9.1282 BTC [+]	[14:25]
pete_dushenski	echo makes it even easier to end up like that dead canadian tweeter	[14:25]
mats	https://youtu.be/4zKQ2QrdQNA war porn	[14:25]
assbot	Kurdish Peshmerga Send IS Flying - IS SVBIED Goes Airborne And Explodes In Mid-Air \| Iraq War 2015 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zai9dM )	[14:25]
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ben_vulpes	lol mats how'd they get that truck so high up in the air?	[14:28]
mats	IED	[14:29]
mats	prob a 50 pound charge	[14:29]
ben_vulpes	so the IED truck drove over an IED, blasted off like team rocket and then assploded at apogee?	[14:29]
mats	yup	[14:30]
ben_vulpes	goodness.	[14:30]
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pete_dushenski	!up ascii_field	[14:38]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099372 << now we know that mircea_popescu really -did- build 'stakeoilets' in his bathrooms	[14:39]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 13:36:52; mircea_popescu: women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ?	[14:39]
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TheNewDeal	;;bc,stats	[14:47]
gribble	Current Blocks: 351969 \| Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 \| Next Difficulty In: 830 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 5 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 47894617759.2 \| Estimated Percent Change: -3.13829	[14:47]
TheNewDeal	anyone ever seen a calculation for typical statistical two week step for a difficulty change at flat hashrate?	[14:48]
ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu re: parasitronic thread: http://www.linear.com/solutions/1218 << example	[15:03]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[15:03]
assbot	Solutions - LTC3588-1 3.3V Fluorescent (Electric Field) Energy Harvester ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsoMAY )	[15:03]
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ascii_field	http://www.linear.com/solutions/5153 << further examples from that vendor. there are others, and it is entirely possible to achieve the effect with discrete components	[15:04]
assbot	Solutions - LTC3331 Charging a Battery with Harvested Energy ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsoVo9 )	[15:04]
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ascii_field	(basic boojum of 'harvested' energy from heat, small photovoltaic, vibration, etc. is that current is small, voltage varies wildly, and polarity also fluctuates)	[15:07]
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pete_dushenski	http://i.imgur.com/7tk7oK8.png	[15:10]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1OspqP3 )	[15:10]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:11]
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ascii_field	pete_dushenski: wat	[15:11]
pete_dushenski	$5k glasses of wine and bubbly ?	[15:12]
ascii_field	and where is the attached golden toilet bill for crapping it out once eaten ?	[15:12]
ascii_field	(can we safely assume that golden toilet in this restaurant charges per-kg ?)	[15:13]
pete_dushenski	still looking..	[15:13]
pete_dushenski	and as far as waitering goes, $7,328.20 seems pretty, pretty, pretty sweet	[15:14]
jurov	http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/your-money/at-nello-a-case-of-restaurant-bill-shock-the-haggler.html .. but, this is 2 figures more	[15:14]
ascii_field	where'd this come from, anyway	[15:14]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykojNm )	[15:14]
pete_dushenski	ascii_field: ahem. reddit.	[15:15]
ascii_field	l0l	[15:15]
ascii_field	and who said homo redditus was poor, aha	[15:16]
pete_dushenski	'this is what rich people do' or somesuch being the title	[15:16]
pete_dushenski	ah, no claim was made to ownership, merely 'o lookie here'	[15:16]
*	ascii_field will one day complete his mars lander and see alive what 'rich people do'	[15:16]
pete_dushenski	because money is unfair	[15:16]
pete_dushenski	ascii_field: well, you're going to the conference so...	[15:17]
pete_dushenski	you might imagine mystery, but you know full well!	[15:17]
ascii_field	pete_dushenski: i went to c2 also	[15:17]
pete_dushenski	ascii_field: i recall this well as these are the source of the only pictures i've ever seen of you	[15:18]
*	ascii_field is not especially interesting to look at and tends to avoid having picture taken when possible	[15:19]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Can you please rewrite without the first paragraph footnotes being footnotes in the first paragraph?	[15:20]
pete_dushenski	ascii_field: nonsense. there's no such thing as someone who isn't interesting to look at.	[15:21]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: ayup. brb	[15:21]
ascii_field	l0l	[15:21]
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BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Thanks.	[15:22]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: The information is useful to include, the method of using first paragraph footnotes weirds up the first page though.	[15:22]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/1KJ1WWY.txt	[15:27]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ykpDjp )	[15:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 506 @ 0.00452203 = 2.2881 BTC [+] {3}	[15:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 349760 @ 0.00030029 = 105.0294 BTC [+] {2}	[15:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38790 @ 0.00030098 = 11.675 BTC [+]	[15:29]
scoopbot	New post on Qntra.net by pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2015/04/xapo-wants-to-pay-you-to-play-video-games/	[15:29]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: ty	[15:30]
BingoBoingo	scoopbot -fetch	[15:30]
pete_dushenski	BingoBoingo: wunderbar	[15:30]
pete_dushenski	gotta keep that place fresh!	[15:33]
pete_dushenski	"Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ?	[15:35]
pete_dushenski	http://qntra.net/2015/04/olivier-janssens-bitcoin-floundation-out-of-money-hates-transparency/#comment-17941	[15:35]
assbot	Olivier Janssens: Bitcoin Floundation Out Of Money, Hates Transparency \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykqCzV )	[15:35]
BingoBoingo	Just woke up and getting to the news digging	[15:37]
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pete_dushenski	!up ascii_field	[15:46]
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pete_dushenski	ascii_field: how is it that you have asciilifeform !up you sometimes ?	[15:46]
pete_dushenski	remote access to keys ?	[15:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66378 @ 0.00029535 = 19.6047 BTC [-]	[15:50]
trinque	https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/12/8392769/nsa-front-door-access-encryption-key << "Front door" not "back door"! very comforting	[15:53]
assbot	The NSA wants tech companies to give it 'front door' access to encrypted data \| The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1FCHAH6 )	[15:53]
pete_dushenski	it's 1990 all over again	[15:53]
trinque	same thing happened with the patriot act	[15:54]
trinque	written and proposed long before it actually passed	[15:54]
trinque	they'll ram this through the same way if it takes 30 years	[15:54]
trinque	though I wouldn't be surprised if they pass something this year	[15:54]
pete_dushenski	^sounds like a bitbet!	[15:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 20000 @ 0.000065 = 1.3 BTC [-]	[15:55]
trinque	heh, mere speculation	[15:55]
williamdunne	trinque: Would front door not suggest that its easier to enter than simply a back door?	[15:56]
trinque	williamdunne: NSA proposes they become keybase.io for all encrypted communications	[15:56]
williamdunne	trinque: except with NSAbase.io you have to give them your keys	[15:57]
trinque	indeed	[15:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 18160 @ 0.000065 = 1.1804 BTC [-] {2}	[15:58]
trinque	so what of encryption done on airgapped networks?	[15:58]
trinque	this implies a requirement that encryption be done on internet-connected machines	[15:58]
trinque	I guess it doesn't if the NSA keys are bolted into every system made	[15:58]
trinque	it's hard to fathom precisely what they propose here	[15:59]
trinque	probably something like "uh... we need access to all the iPhones"	[15:59]
williamdunne	trinque: I would imagine they either a) want flawed PRNG or b) want all encryption to be done to the recipients key and the NSA's golden key	[15:59]
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trinque	williamdunne: sure, then they want to monitor all communications in order to enforce this requirement (nothing new, but brings it into the "open")	[16:00]
williamdunne	trinque: I suppose we should be thankful that the GPG developer is in Germany	[16:02]
ben_vulpes	williamdunne: that guy has nothing to do with anything	[16:03]
ben_vulpes	gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use.	[16:04]
ben_vulpes	and will remain that way until someone in la serenissima gets fed up and rewrites it.	[16:04]
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mats	not so complicated, cert. store and USG owns a master key	[16:08]
mats	flawed PRNG, borked constants, etc, would be a hard sell	[16:08]
mats	oh, thats what i get for not reading the article	[16:09]
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lobbes	gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use << oy, so my privkey isn't as private as I thought? I feel like I'm always realizing I'm using the borked versions of all the things	[16:35]
lobbes	!s gpg 1.4	[16:35]
assbot	1 results for 'gpg 1.4' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gpg+1.4	[16:35]
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ascii_field	pete_dushenski: how is it that you ... << perlscript, nothing remarkable	[16:38]
ascii_field	pete_dushenski: remote access to keys ? << not as such	[16:39]
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funkenstein_	speaking of which i was going to ask you guys if gpg needs ecdsa support	[16:40]
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ascii_field	funkenstein_: why?!	[16:40]
TheNewDeal	did trilema migrate?	[16:40]
funkenstein_	so one could use a bitcoin key for gpg privkey	[16:41]
funkenstein_	ascii_field, for some reason i was unable to ask myself that simple question thanks :P	[16:42]
funkenstein_	there are multiple DSAs, seems like it is supposed to be extensible	[16:43]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: so one could use a bitcoin key for gpg privkey << i am still at a loss as to why one might wish to do this..	[16:43]
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funkenstein_	for example, i could check your pubkey and send you coin	[16:43]
funkenstein_	i mean, it saves the step of you signing an address	[16:44]
lobbes	did trilema migrate? << I, too, have not been able to load it today	[16:44]
funkenstein_	which isn't much advantage i guess	[16:44]
ascii_field	funkenstein_> for example, i could check your pubkey and send you coin << you can do that now. create addr, fill it, send over proper pgp	[16:44]
ascii_field	*send its privkey over	[16:44]
funkenstein_	hmm yeah	[16:45]
funkenstein_	well why are there multiple DSAs in gpg?	[16:46]
ascii_field	cruft	[16:46]
BingoBoingo	Historical artifacts	[16:47]
funkenstein_	yeah i guess there is no need to make it crufiter	[16:47]
funkenstein_	gpg --sign-tx	[16:47]
funkenstein_	gpg --get-me-a-pizza	[16:48]
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funkenstein_	sometimes people like to use gpg for key management	[16:49]
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ascii_field	the 'key management' is, imho, a crudfest and Must Die (TM)	[16:50]
funkenstein_	you mean like the lifetimes and whatnot?	[16:51]
ascii_field	like it having any state at all	[16:51]
funkenstein_	the keys have to live somewhere on disk	[16:51]
ascii_field	keys yes	[16:51]
ascii_field	but operator should select path on file system and give, e.g., destination pubkey for a ciphergram, as operand on commandline.	[16:51]
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ascii_field	ditto the key expiration thing	[16:53]
ascii_field	it is mostly worthless as presently implemented	[16:53]
ascii_field	(e.g., can i tell gpg 'this key is now expired but existing signatures remain valid until heat death of universe' ? afaik no)	[16:53]
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funkenstein_	i agree but i thought that was cause i haven't been using it long enough	[16:54]
ascii_field	^ and yes this doesn't exist because it is not physically possible to implement it as a hard guarantee (why is an exercise for the reader)	[16:54]
ascii_field	but to my eye this is a reason to dispense with the 'expiration' and other nebulous 'meta' entirely.	[16:55]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field yeah, it is an example.	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099740 << i was like 6	[17:02]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 15:53:31; nubbins`: consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths	[17:02]
Michail1	midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio	[17:03]
Michail1	midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio	[17:03]
Michail1	midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio	[17:03]
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Michail1	Anyone have a suggestion on if arch or debian is better suited for pogoplug? recommendation?	[17:06]
trinque	dunno why one or the other would be best suited	[17:06]
trinque	depends mostly on whether you have a working kernel config	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	kinda intended to be neutral iirc.	[17:06]
ascii_field	Michail1: what is the machine used for? for instance, if as a blunt weapon, than a length of chain is preferably to debian -and- arch	[17:07]
ascii_field	*preferable	[17:07]
trinque	lol	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field the pogoplug ? it's used to run the bitcoin node	[17:07]
Michail1	intended to be used only as a full node.	[17:07]
ascii_field	Michail1: then neither	[17:07]
Michail1	thanks.	[17:07]
ascii_field	build own linux. instructions can be found in the log.	[17:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 513 @ 0.00459438 = 2.3569 BTC [+]	[17:08]
trinque	!s buildroot	[17:08]
assbot	63 results for 'buildroot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=buildroot	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	he's still gonna start offa something. iirc danielpbarron had instructions from arch ? or was it debian ?	[17:09]
Michail1	Thanks. As I was converting the plug, I discovered that both builds were listed/suggested, but wanted to know if there was a reason to choose one over the other. Hell, I will just make one of each since there is no compelling reason to do one over the other.	[17:10]
ascii_field	the original cookbook used arch.	[17:10]
trinque	http://danielpbarron.com/pogo/howto.txt	[17:10]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1zawJCf )	[17:10]
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trinque	http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html << I also found this helpful as a general guide to putting a linux on the thing.	[17:11]
assbot	Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch)	[17:11]
trinque	Michail1: ^	[17:11]
trinque	as far as which distro, it's just a matter of preference; nothing in one or the other will rule out operating on the pogo	[17:11]
Michail1	Thanks. That is the one I used; however, that one is more geared to debian although I did arch. Also, that link doesn't tell you that booting from the USB3 ports doesn't work (costing me an hour).	[17:12]
mats	recent versions of debian and arch have systemd fwiw	[17:12]
ascii_field	Michail1: i have a 'buildroot' config published, that yields a minimal linux for pogov4.	[17:14]
ascii_field	it is not difficult to build. well worth it.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	"For Mr. Dunphy, we were simply too late — but that doesn't mean we stop forging ahead into hopelessness, anguish and despair with the view of creating betterment, safety and wellbeing for the citizens we serve."	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	dude this guy should be shot already.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	fucktards.	[17:14]
ascii_field	what even.	[17:16]
Michail1	ascii_field - published ehere?	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	some idiot canadian murderer for hire thinks that working for the prime minister allows him to not only shoot random people	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	but also shoot the fact that he's a murderer for hire shooting people.	[17:16]
ascii_field	Michail1: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html	[17:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1zaxj2K )	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099792 << what's wrong with the bit in question ?	[17:18]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 16:31:45; pete_dushenski: such science these paleotards	[17:18]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Didn't you hear? He has popular mandate!	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah, right.	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	it's quite obvious executions will be required, and en masse. just saying it now so people don't start pestering me with concerns once we're in a position to do it, like they did last fucking time around.	[17:18]
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mircea_popescu	no, shooting the "dictatorial couple" is neither here nor there. shooting ^ that guy is the point.	[17:19]
danielpbarron	Michail1, i have bitcoind working on Arch; when i tried it on debian i ran into problems relating it not being a "static" build	[17:20]
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danielpbarron	height=322036 vs height=222926	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099821 < yeh yeh, being workt on.	[17:21]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 17:14:08; jurov: mircea_popescu: ^ same here since yest	[17:21]
ascii_field	'"Although I cannot regret my actions last Sunday, I unequivocally wish I could have visited Mr. Dunphy at a point in his life where another level of intervention may have been possible," the officer wrote in the email, obtained by CBC News.'	[17:22]
ascii_field	mega-l0ltr0n!	[17:22]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099842 << illiterate people.	[17:23]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 17:17:50; pete_dushenski: i dunno why anyone would want to talk to a computer instead of type into it	[17:23]
*	ascii_field for what it's worth expects to be killed in some variation on this theme	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	roughly speaking, the dwim dweeb crowd.	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field i would hope that if you point a gun at some idiot govt agent, you a) it's not a rifle indoors ; b) it's not a 22 caliber etc.	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	i'd say i hope you shoot them, but then again you're not muscle so.	[17:24]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: don't forget the basic formula here	[17:24]
ascii_field	there needn't be any of these props involved	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[17:24]
ascii_field	the rifle will be placed on the corpse by the police dept. at their leisure, etc.	[17:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00029449 = 7.1414 BTC [-]	[17:24]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Seems to me that being able to use voice commands could have limited usage for mundane tasks, so they can be performed without distraction from what you are actually trying to do	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne it's a psychological thing dood. there's a large swath of imbeciles pretending like they're using computers.	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	the welfare governments wish to cultivate this pretense.	[17:25]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Do you not think it would be useful to be able to set a reminder without leaving your text editor? This is the sort of mundane task I was thinking of (certainly not enough to spark any sort of industry)	[17:25]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099853 << lmao wut. https://archive.today/9LwIF	[17:26]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 17:20:03; williamdunne: This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.	[17:26]
assbot	The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume II on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zayj6R )	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	the way back machine apparently sucks. good to know	[17:26]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: fetlife has told the wayback-machine to drop your blog post	[17:26]
ascii_field	iirc it is directly usg-affiliated.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	alexa iirc.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	ie, amazon	[17:26]
trinque	williamdunne: keybindings, not voice commands	[17:27]
trinque	learn ya a proper window manager like stumpwm	[17:27]
williamdunne	wayback-machine does all sorts of derpy things, like it uses the current robots.txt rather than the historical robots.txt at the time of publication.	[17:28]
williamdunne	trinque: I'll have a look at it, I just like the idea of saying "remind me to get food out of the oven in 20" while in the middle of doing something that might actually matter	[17:29]
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trinque	williamdunne: if being able to do that requires shipping an audio file of my every command to google, I'll pass	[17:31]
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trinque	the speech-to-text maybe not; parsing and interpeting what's said, surely	[17:31]
williamdunne	trinque: guess it depends on the amount of functionality, doesn't seem like it would require to much to cover a fairly large number of commands	[17:32]
trinque	program launcher bound to key, pick a reminder proggie, keybinding to add reminder, type stuff,	[17:32]
trinque	should take less than 10 sec	[17:33]
lobbes	or egg timer for oven related tasks ;/	[17:33]
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mats	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-12/saudi-arabia-s-plan-to-extend-the-age-of-oil	[17:42]
assbot	Saudi Arabia's Plan to Extend the Age of Oil - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1zazKCx )	[17:42]
mats	"In 2005, when a book by oil analyst Matthew Simmons predicted a drop-off in Saudi output would signal that global supplies were beginning an irreversible decline, Naimi belittled the claims and promised higher production capacity. He won the argument. The Saudis pump more today than a decade ago." heh.	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	heh. the saudis are stuck. sitting on a pile of non renewable resources is only valuable if the resources are still relevant.	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	crushing obama is obviously worth "all the oil" to them	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	funny who the us allies in the midwest are.	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099870 << what arer you actually asking ?	[17:47]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 17:43:05; TheNewDeal: anyone ever seen a calculation for typical statistical two week step for a difficulty change at flat hashrate?	[17:47]
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williamdunne	The calculation wouldn't change regardless of hashrate change would it?	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	i dunno	[17:49]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099877 << nothing quite beats washing down 20 dollar potato salad and 40 dollar "chunk of parmesan" with 10k magnum cristal.	[17:51]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 18:05:10; pete_dushenski: http://i.imgur.com/7tk7oK8.png	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	who are the gypsies in question ?	[17:51]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: they're as yet unknown to me	[17:55]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: any word back from fortune ?	[18:02]
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ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: Do you not think it would be useful to be able to set a reminder without leaving your text editor? This is the sort of mundane task I was thinking of (certainly not enough to spark any sort of industry)	[18:09]
ben_vulpes	<< your text editor doesn't handle reminders etc?	[18:09]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: yours does ?	[18:10]
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ben_vulpes	pete_dushenski: http://sachachua.com/blog/2007/11/setting-up-appointment-reminders-in-org/	[18:11]
assbot	Setting up appointment reminders in Org - sacha chua :: living an awesome life ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI0jPD )	[18:11]
ben_vulpes	http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Appointments.html	[18:11]
assbot	GNU Emacs Manual: Appointments ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI0kD6 )	[18:11]
ben_vulpes	pete_dushenski: yes.	[18:12]
pete_dushenski	huh neat trick	[18:12]
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williamdunne	ben_vulpes: thanks for those links, I'll look into that	[18:15]
ben_vulpes	heh i don't really expect you to just start using emacs	[18:25]
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williamdunne	ben_vulpes: If I had a reason to change, I might. I've been meaning to look into it for a while	[18:36]
williamdunne	"Did you know that the average tax return so far for 2015 is $3,539! What would, or will, you do with that hard earned money the government so graciously returned to you after borrowing it at 0% interest?"	[18:39]
williamdunne	lol	[18:39]
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pete_dushenski	http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/13/the-usefulness-of-idiots/	[19:04]
assbot	The usefulness of idiots. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7wHSh )	[19:04]
pete_dushenski	aite, that done, time to go for a walk.	[19:04]
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mats	many folks got free money this year	[19:10]
mats	'Earned Income Tax Credit'	[19:10]
jurov	as "free money" i tend to imagine something other	[19:11]
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jurov	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/xaGffxAM-hs the end is nigh	[19:23]
assbot	Google Discussiegroepen ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7BH9I )	[19:23]
lobbes	re: tax idiocy. There are towns where I live that feel fit to tax income on residents that make their money out-of-town.	[19:23]
lobbes	Of course they don't tell you this when you move into these municipalities, thus leaving many fucked a few years down the line with interest, et al	[19:24]
mats	and you can't tell them to fuck off if you live out of state?	[19:25]
lobbes	ah, but these aren't even state taxes. 'Local Tax'	[19:26]
williamdunne	lobbes: The USG does the same on foreign earned income.. when you neither live nor work in the US	[19:26]
jurov	"Finally, some people conflate the idea of a global transition from plain HTTP to HTTPS as a move by CA's to make more money. They might argue that first, we need to get rid of CA's or provide an alternative path for obtaining certificates. I disagree. Switching from plain HTTP to HTTPS is step one. Step two might include adding more avenues for establishing trust and authentication."	[19:26]
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lobbes	'the time for plaintext is over' l0l	[19:26]
jurov	step 3: PROFIT!!!	[19:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21774 @ 0.00028987 = 6.3116 BTC [-]	[19:27]
jurov	"If you actually go to read the details of the proposal rather than relying only on the headline, you'd find that there is an intent to actually let you continue to use http for, e.g., localhost."	[19:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00028987 = 5.1887 BTC [-]	[19:28]
jurov	lulzmine	[19:28]
trinque	"let you" << LOL?	[19:28]
trinque	yeah.. like portland's fucking "art tax"	[19:30]
trinque	damn it; I was scrolled up :p	[19:31]
trinque	lobbes: ^	[19:31]
lobbes	art..tax?	[19:31]
lobbes	oh god	[19:31]
trinque	yeah, you know, to support... art... for the children (?)	[19:32]
trinque	precursor to a portland income tax, I guarantee it	[19:33]
lobbes	l0l, you weren't kidding: https://www.portlandoregon.gov/revenue/article/422384	[19:33]
assbot	FAQs \| Arts Tax \| The City of Portland, Oregon ... ( http://bit.ly/1aXHvGC )	[19:33]
lobbes	"If due, the Arts Tax is $35 per person"	[19:33]
trinque	totally not a poll tax, because it doesn't count if you make less than 1000/yr	[19:34]
lobbes	ha	[19:34]
trinque	this country is full of imbeciles	[19:34]
williamdunne	trinque: I was led to believe it was for the disabled gay orphaned puppies	[19:34]
williamdunne	(who need artwork)	[19:34]
trinque	I'm sure it is	[19:34]
trinque	so they can finger (paw?) paint	[19:35]
trinque	but more importantly to spin up a new bureaucracy that can handle taking an income tax in	[19:35]
trinque	"The practical effect of the tax is to tax income of certain City residents within a certain income range and is therefore not a poll or head tax." LOL	[19:37]
trinque	how bout a tax on everyone with arms	[19:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00028895 = 3.7852 BTC [-] {2}	[19:43]
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mircea_popescu	mmkay ima be going through the log here.	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099891 << on the basis of that bill i'd say the six in question are poor.	[19:52]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 18:10:52; ascii_field: and who said homo redditus was poor, aha	[19:52]
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mircea_popescu	!up kdomanski	[19:56]
-assbot-	You voiced kdomanski for 30 minutes.	[19:56]
*	assbot gives voice to kdomanski	[19:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32556 @ 0.0002887 = 9.3989 BTC [-] {2}	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099917 << i answered the dumbass.	[20:00]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 18:30:28; pete_dushenski: "Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ?	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099930 << in 30 years the "tech companies" will be exactly like the janissary corps. a very expensive pretense.	[20:01]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 18:49:07; trinque: they'll ram this through the same way if it takes 30 years	[20:01]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099941 << derps don't even want to think about separate nets.	[20:02]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 18:53:12; trinque: this implies a requirement that encryption be done on internet-connected machines	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099950 << undersigned.	[20:02]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 18:59:08; ben_vulpes: and will remain that way until someone in la serenissima gets fed up and rewrites it.	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099958 << i thought you didn't like perl.	[20:03]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 19:33:30; ascii_field: pete_dushenski: how is it that you ... << perlscript, nothing remarkable	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099962 << mnot yet.	[20:03]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 19:35:44; TheNewDeal: did trilema migrate?	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099969 << idem. provisioning servers takes a while apparently.	[20:04]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 19:39:06; lobbes: did trilema migrate? << I, too, have not been able to load it today	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099984 << undersigned.	[20:04]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 19:45:59; ascii_field: like it having any state at all	[20:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20022 @ 0.00028813 = 5.7689 BTC [-]	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	if only we had a bitcoin host already ;/	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100100 << nope.	[20:06]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 20:57:40; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: any word back from fortune ?	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100114 << imo the entire "obamacare is a tax not a fine, but a fine not a tax, but the irs can't go after you except if they owe you tax returns" has been mostly an exercise in "we don't wanna pay tax returns anymore".	[20:07]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 21:34:15; williamdunne: "Did you know that the average tax return so far for 2015 is $3,539! What would, or will, you do with that hard earned money the government so graciously returned to you after borrowing it at 0% interest?"	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	which a desperate govt would be doing, obviously. and so... one way or another...	[20:07]
williamdunne	But USG spending is so stable? Hence why they keep growing year on year.	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100127 << this will become the norm as senenissima continues to wipe out tax receipts across the world.	[20:08]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 22:18:42; lobbes: re: tax idiocy. There are towns where I live that feel fit to tax income on residents that make their money out-of-town.	[20:08]
williamdunne	(they being the collective employees of the USG)	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	they only exist because of the expenditure. how would it not grow ?	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100132 << yeah, very lulzy all that posturing.	[20:09]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 22:21:13; jurov: "Finally, some people conflate the idea of a global transition from plain HTTP to HTTPS as a move by CA's to make more money. They might argue that first, we need to get rid of CA's or provide an alternative path for obtaining certificates. I disagree. Switching from plain HTTP to HTTPS is step one. Step two might include adding more avenues for establishing trust and authentication."	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	yes, the time for plaintext is over, but because wots and so on, not because pki.	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	pki isn't even a thing anymore. i don't use it, for instance.	[20:10]
jurov	i quoted that mainly because of the planning	[20:10]
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mircea_popescu	it's lulzy ill grant you that	[20:11]
jurov	step 1. make utter mess step 2. whatever	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	myeah	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100149 << how about "an arts tax to support the artsy sorts of dumb bitches with etsy accounts ? $35, includes two mandatory blowjobs / year from any female wearing the mandatory "I am an Etsy ho" bracelet, anklet or tramp stamp" ?	[20:12]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 22:28:39; lobbes: "If due, the Arts Tax is $35 per person"	[20:12]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100157 << prolly.	[20:13]
assbot	Logged on 13-04-2015 22:30:33; trinque: but more importantly to spin up a new bureaucracy that can handle taking an income tax in	[20:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7619 @ 0.00029449 = 2.2437 BTC [+]	[20:20]
*	assbot removes voice from kdomanski	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	and speaking of pki, http://31.media.tumblr.com/6414e1f72efb150eea265ba6c835a190/tumblr_n3v281cStV1see514o2_400.gif	[20:29]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GEnuSm )	[20:29]
mats	heh, six people in the office had their tax returns stolen	[20:29]
mats	thanks Anthem!	[20:30]
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mats	(also, can anyone explain why the IRS issues debit cards for refunds? i'm told they're "untraceable" by folks that spoke to LEOs regarding the matter)	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	lmao what do you mean untraceable.	[20:31]
mats	i have nfi	[20:32]
*	Adlai` has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[20:33]
mats	http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.1/03389.html	[20:40]
assbot	Linux-Kernel Archive: [GIT PULL] x86/asm changes for v4.1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GEqP3X )	[20:40]
williamdunne	mats: Somehow I doubt that the IRS wouldn't track to whom they issue each card	[20:43]
mats	https://reverse.put.as/2015/04/13/how-to-fix-rootpipe-in-mavericks-and-call-apples-bullshit-bluff-about-rootpipe-fixes/	[20:46]
assbot	How to fix rootpipe in Mavericks and call Apple's bullshit bluff about rootpipe fixes \| Reverse Engineering Mac OS X ... ( http://bit.ly/1GErL8o )	[20:46]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c plox to check your emails ty.	[20:52]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[20:52]

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