Forum logs for 13 Apr 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2015/04/eff-goes-to-bat-for-podcasters-hits-homerun-against-patent-troll/ [00:21]
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ben_vulpes ugh i can't tell if this is allergies or a sickness [00:46]
ben_vulpes thanks obama [00:46]
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ben_vulpes asciilifeform: can buildroot be coerced to crap out builds of its "packages" in addition to the nixen it builds? [01:24]
ben_vulpes seperately from, i suppose i mean [01:24]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: they get built in their subdirs and then copied [01:42]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: what exactly did you mean by 'separate' ? [01:42]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/stroke/ [01:43]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: overall, 'buildroot' is scarcely more than an elaborate 'makefile'. everything you might care to know about it can be learned through reading the docs, the thing itself, and by experiment. [01:44]
ben_vulpes 'and then copied' << aha! i thought i'd read that somewhere. [02:00]
ben_vulpes a vile beast is slowing my mental procs down i think [02:01]
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kakobrekla http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aAr25Y2_460s.jpg [05:24]
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mircea_popescu hahaha [05:25]
mircea_popescu Mr. Oyster lmao [05:25]
mircea_popescu meanwhile in romania, [05:25]
mircea_popescu ;;google pirsul de padure [05:25]
gribble PHON.RO - Accident mortal Filipestii de Padure - YouTube: ; SindromulGoaga.ro | Colectionez Sindromuri: ; animale salbatice din romania.ppt - Editura EDU: [05:25]
mircea_popescu (aka glis glis, aka edible dormouse) [05:26]
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funkenstein_ scary car crash. i had one in a dream last night too. [06:59]
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funkenstein_ offhanded comment here about lacan and alt-physics took me on a wild goose chase [08:50]
funkenstein_ and now he shows up in the latest robert foster rap news [08:50]
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mircea_popescu lol [08:58]
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mircea_popescu you hadn't heard of that feminist role-model and brilliant woman in tech irigaray before, had you. [08:58]
funkenstein_ nope [08:59]
funkenstein_ nor Jaques to be honest with you [08:59]
mircea_popescu a well. the educative function of b-a [09:00]
funkenstein_ thanks nagual [09:01]
funkenstein_ most of lacan stuff i found seemed like fan literature [09:02]
funkenstein_ gotta get the originals i suppose [09:03]
mircea_popescu lacan is remembered chiefly for two things. the more important was his economic superiority - he was the first talk psych to reduce the session time. he'd charge people for three minutes sort of thing. that made him more productive than his peers. [09:04]
mircea_popescu as the expression goes, when hiring a shaman don't hire the "best", hire the cheapest [09:04]
mircea_popescu (because they're exactly equally effective, being shamans). [09:05]
mircea_popescu conversely : if you're going to con people, take the least time possible. you'll deliver just as much con to each victim, but make more money at it. [09:05]
mircea_popescu the less important is his intellectual contribution - he proved conclusively that a "field" with "its own terminology" is not for this purely rhetorical reason respectable. [09:06]
mircea_popescu in the process paving the way for the ulterior extirpation from human preoccupations of stuff like "social studies". [09:06]
mircea_popescu generally, the more brilliant derps in any bogus field are the ones that'll finally sink it. he's chiefly the reason us pseudo-sicence of the mind went the way of pills. [09:07]
mircea_popescu back in the 60s and 70s it was looking like muchly the other way. but today, scientology is a barely surviving holdout of those olden days of talk psych. [09:08]
funkenstein_ really? does that assume people read et en français aussi? [09:08]
mircea_popescu if americans didn't read french, how exactly would you imagine all the "new concepts" they publish would be made ? [09:09]
mircea_popescu need something to shanonize, yo. "radical honesty" herp-derp. [09:09]
mircea_popescu clever's rules or what was it. [09:09]
funkenstein_ plagiarize, plagiarize, only be sure to call it: research [09:09]
mircea_popescu "i am the only person in this country that can sort-of grasp the meaning of long french phrases [09:10]
mircea_popescu except for all the other people also making their living out of badly translated french maculature." [09:10]
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funkenstein_ compare "science et vie" to "discovery¨ .. you will see some differences [09:11]
mircea_popescu i've never actually read either [09:11]
mircea_popescu i much prefer cosmo. at least there's women. [09:11]
funkenstein_ lol but i don't believe you [09:12]
funkenstein_ how about, compare paris.backpage to newyork.backpage [09:13]
mircea_popescu mm [09:13]
funkenstein_ i haven't tried that [09:13]
mircea_popescu wassat ? [09:13]
funkenstein_ srsly? [09:14]
funkenstein_ in other news: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-civilizations-that-mysteriously-disappeared.php [09:18]
assbot Top 10 Civilizations That Mysteriously Disappeared - Toptenz.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1H06C7h ) [09:18]
mircea_popescu mmmkay. [09:19]
funkenstein_ mircea_popescu have you been approached by publishers for trilemma content yet? [09:20]
mircea_popescu myeah [09:20]
funkenstein_ good good :) [09:21]
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nubbins` funkenstein_ you could at least spell it the romanian way ;p [09:43]
nubbins` also http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099211 vs http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099211 [09:44]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 12:03:13; funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi? [09:44]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 12:03:13; funkenstein_: really? does that assume people read et en français aussi? [09:44]
nubbins` wait wat [09:44]
mircea_popescu uh [09:45]
nubbins` log says "fran?ais" in my browser and log1 says "franais" [09:45]
nubbins` neither says "français" [09:45]
mircea_popescu maybe your brokser sucks ? [09:45]
nubbins` maybe!!! [09:45]
nubbins` hok kould i even knok tho? [09:45]
mircea_popescu no see, brokser because it's a broken browser. [09:46]
nubbins` oo. [09:46]
nubbins` browen brokser ;/ [09:46]
mircea_popescu pretty good name for a dutchman [09:46]
nubbins` browen brokser's dutch seed bank [09:46]
nubbins` top quality - autoflowering - feminized [09:47]
nubbins` i like [09:47]
mircea_popescu kid to pregnant woman, puts hand on belly. "what's in here ?" "oh, I'm going to have a little baby" [09:47]
mircea_popescu "but do you love it ?" "of course i do!" [09:47]
mircea_popescu "then why did you eat it ?" [09:47]
nubbins` heh [09:47]
nubbins` i was thinking "but you already had one! aren't you full?" [09:48]
nubbins` cleveland in two days. i should find my passport [09:48]
nubbins` !up Vexual [09:48]
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mircea_popescu either that or write to the canadian army general staff] [09:48]
mircea_popescu "dear sirs, im sick of having to look for my passport. go invade cleveland already" [09:49]
nubbins` some years ago, my father showed me this "certification booklet" that he carried as part of his job (gov marine safety inspections) [09:49]
nubbins` it was actually comical how many more security features it had than my passport [09:49]
mircea_popescu lol [09:50]
nubbins` veual i thought it was for the benefit of the lazy who'd sacrifice yield for ease [09:50]
nubbins` *vexual [09:50]
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nubbins` https://denarium.com/ [09:53]
assbot Denarium Bitcoin | Affordable Physical Bitcoins ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMcH1 ) [09:53]
nubbins` ^ watch an asshole use his bare hands to handle product [09:54]
mircea_popescu affordable! [09:56]
nubbins` right? [09:56]
nubbins` further criticism from me here: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2015/04/13#l1428929251 [09:57]
assbot BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjMvBE ) [09:57]
nubbins` tldr: they suck and the makers should end it all [09:57]
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nubbins` prince albert chain? you can prolly guess [09:57]
funkenstein_ 40.2 millies is pretty cheap for a compromised privkey [09:58]
funkenstein_ thanks for correction nubbins *face palm* [09:58]
nubbins` funkenstein_ is it cheap for a /finnish/ compromised privkey? [09:58]
nubbins` o and hey, any time [09:58]
nubbins` srsly tho what's fun to do in cleveland? [09:59]
funkenstein_ all caps [09:59]
mircea_popescu who's eggwich [09:59]
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nubbins` some guy [10:02]
nubbins` wait maybe it's a chick [10:03]
nubbins` bought some art off me at one point iirc [10:03]
mircea_popescu you make art ?! [10:04]
nubbins` mircea_popescu >8( [10:05]
mircea_popescu hehe [10:05]
nubbins` ;;ud beard cake [10:10]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beard+Cake | The simple combination of beard shaving, and cake baking. This term refers to the act of oneself shaving their beard into cake batter, and presenting the final ... [10:10]
nubbins` oh wow [10:12]
nubbins` notbad.jpg [10:12]
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nubbins` in the game he's shameless, even uses the codename famous amos [10:18]
nubbins` !up Vexual [10:18]
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nubbins` ;;google in the game he's shameless, even uses the codename famous amos [10:19]
gribble MF Doom-Kookies - YouTube: ; MF DOOM – Kookies Lyrics | Genius: ; Character Aliases that Marvel and DC Have Both Used: [10:19]
nubbins` worth listening to, purely for the number of food/sex double entendres [10:20]
nubbins` hell, mp might even get a chuckle [10:20]
nubbins` "sodom, they got 'em with they curls out, even got a better sales pitch than the girl scouts" [10:21]
nubbins` nb.gif [10:21]
nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdgAyzHx5Y [10:22]
assbot Sufjan Stevens [Full Official Album] - Seven Swans - IndieMusicAddict - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FNUox1 ) [10:22]
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nubbins` i'm tempted to call you one for owning a blackberry [10:28]
nubbins` oh hill-clint [10:28]
nubbins` https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/hillary-clinton-womens-rights-feminism/ [10:28]
assbot Hillary Clinton’s Empowerment | Jacobin ... ( http://bit.ly/1FNUUuT ) [10:28]
funkenstein_ speaking of which, a bar joke i heard last night, whats the difference between marmalade and jam? [10:28]
nubbins` funkenstein_ iirc marmalade is stickier [10:29]
nubbins` wat, it also contains peels. [10:29]
funkenstein_ you can't marmalade your cock in someone's ass [10:29]
funkenstein_ unexpected obscenity = good bar joke [10:31]
funkenstein_ irc = not the place, sorry [10:31]
nubbins` "Walmart executives have continued to look favorably on her, with Alice Walton donating the maximum amount to the “Ready for Hillary” Super PAC in 2013. Walton’s $25,000 donation was considerably higher than the average annual salary for Walmart’s hourly employees" [10:31]
mircea_popescu !up HostFat [10:32]
-assbot- You voiced HostFat for 30 minutes. [10:32]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` uh i dun follow. [10:32]
funkenstein_ you know the one about the prisoner sentenced to death, who was told it would be one day this week but not a day he expects? [10:32]
HostFat hi [10:32]
nubbins` mircea_popescu it's an article in jacobin, you're not supposed to follow [10:32]
mircea_popescu aok [10:32]
mircea_popescu ello HostFat [10:33]
HostFat I've nothing to say now, I was just lurking :) [10:33]
mircea_popescu cool. [10:33]
mircea_popescu funkenstein_ yes. [10:33]
mircea_popescu actually iirc was even discussed in the log, of all places, somewhat recently. [10:33]
funkenstein_ nice [10:34]
funkenstein_ ;;google deploys hillary clinton [10:34]
gribble U.S. Condemned For Pre-Emptive Use Of Hillary Clinton Against ...: ; How should Hillary Clinton deploy Bill in 2016? - CSMonitor.com: ; NRCC Deploys Clinton's Email Saga In Maloney (1 more message) [10:34]
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nubbins` facepalm [10:35]
nubbins` i may not actually let this guy stay the rest of the month [10:35]
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nubbins` this is almost as retarded as leaving the front door not only unlocked, but actually /not fully closed/, a total of 8 times so far /this year/ [10:37]
nubbins` or a straight-razor [10:37]
mircea_popescu you share a kitchen ? [10:38]
nubbins` it's a one-kitchen sort of house [10:39]
nubbins` Vexual i prefer parchment paper [10:39]
mircea_popescu suppose dude has syphilis ? [10:39]
mircea_popescu generally sharing a kitchen and sharing a woman is about the same scenario. [10:40]
nubbins` o.O [10:40]
mircea_popescu this never occured to you ?! [10:40]
* nubbins` imagines MP unwrapping bar of soap, using once, putting in trash [10:40]
mircea_popescu the bathroom is actually lower on the list than most things. [10:41]
nubbins` like the doorknobs [10:41]
nubbins` we share those too [10:41]
mircea_popescu there's a major difference between "stuff goes in" and everything else. [10:41]
mircea_popescu women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ? [10:42]
nubbins` what am i going to catch from a /fork/ that i'm not exposing myself to by eating at a restaurant? [10:42]
mircea_popescu restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down [10:43]
nubbins` o.O [10:43]
nubbins` does b-a share restaurant inspection reports online? [10:43]
mircea_popescu this also never occured to you ? [10:43]
mircea_popescu it's not a matter of online. hospitals report infections, disease control tracks them. [10:43]
mircea_popescu you get shut down within days. [10:43]
nubbins` o, within days. [10:43]
nubbins` that's probably good enough. [10:43]
funkenstein_ if you are looking for exposure to local pathogens, nothing beats a nursery [10:44]
mircea_popescu probably. [10:44]
nubbins` after all, it's not like anyone else would use the syphilis fork in that time frame [10:44]
funkenstein_ re: syphilis fork, is that a coin? [10:45]
nubbins` brb but i legitimately am curious as to how you think i can catch a disease from a clean fork [10:45]
mircea_popescu hand made. [10:45]
funkenstein_ lol [10:45]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what i said was that the kitchen's the worst place to share with some whoever. it is. [10:45]
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mircea_popescu and that it's about on par with sharing a woman. which it also is. [10:46]
mircea_popescu other than that... have fun neh ? [10:46]
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nubbins` no i got what you said [10:49]
nubbins` it's just the logic doesn't follow [10:49]
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mircea_popescu let's see what other logic doesn't follow. [10:51]
mircea_popescu are you aware for instance that women are a good degree of magnitude more likely to catch something from men, than men from women ? [10:51]
nubbins` what's included in the set of {something}? a wink? syphilis? [10:53]
mircea_popescu venereal disease. [10:55]
nubbins` my flagging interest begs you to continue [10:55]
mircea_popescu what's to continue lol. you've never bothered to think about contagion, which is excusable seeing how you're no biologist. [10:56]
nubbins` again, how is this different from eating at a restaurant [10:56]
nubbins` or do you pack your own chopsticks? [10:57]
mircea_popescu how is sex different from eating at a restaurant ? [10:57]
nubbins` you don't cum when you're finished eating [10:58]
mircea_popescu so then. [10:58]
nubbins` so then nothing [10:58]
nubbins` an ellipsis isn't an argument [10:58]
nubbins` no kidding [10:59]
nubbins` anyway, despite the fact that this guy works as a cook at various 4-star restaurants [10:59]
mircea_popescu what ellipsis! [10:59]
nubbins` his meals while at home consist entirely of take-out fish & chips and chicken fingers [10:59]
nubbins` the ellipsis you forgot to add after your "so then" [10:59]
mircea_popescu dude you asked me how sex is different from eating at a restaurant, and then answered yourself. [11:00]
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nubbins` sure did [11:00]
mircea_popescu i wonder what four star means in canada [11:01]
mircea_popescu afaik the most stars you can get was three. [11:01]
nubbins` haha wait i'm thinking of hotels. [11:01]
nubbins` i think three stars *is* the most a restaurant can get [11:01]
nubbins` anyway. the place was voted canada's best restaurant a couple years in a row [11:02]
nubbins` and this guy leaves the front door open and chicken fingers in the oven overnight [11:02]
mircea_popescu weird. [11:02]
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funkenstein_ http://www.academia.edu/11791336/Bitcoin_as_Politics_Distributed_Right-Wing_Extremism [11:06]
assbot Bitcoin as Politics: Distributed Right-Wing Extremism | David Golumbia - Academia.edu ... ( http://bit.ly/1O6DUC0 ) [11:06]
nubbins` lel meanwhile in two dog land: http://imgur.com/3FOH9mj [11:07]
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nubbins` plz to not those are NOT cops on horses, which you see often enough, but what appear to be private citizens [11:08]
mircea_popescu meanwhile in my inbox : http://dpaste.com/2ZVFFMN [11:10]
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mircea_popescu 1. blockchain info sends out spam ? 2. with retarded "cc to undisclosed/bcc to victim" stuff ? 3. and has some "communications officer" that can't spell ? 4. and wait, wut, "tell us how many moneyz and we'll tell you numerous numbers" business model ?! [11:11]
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nubbins` seriously though how do you leave 8 chicken fingers in the oven? [11:24]
nubbins` it wasn't even turned on. [11:24]
nubbins` so the guy cooked them, turned the oven off, then... went to bed at 7am [11:25]
nubbins` talk about coked out of your fucking head :p [11:25]
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funkenstein_ some people get upset when i point out coffee is more addictive than cocaine [11:40]
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funkenstein_ that sounds like more of an alcohol related move anyway [11:42]
funkenstein_ i cooked some ramen noodles once and passed out [11:43]
funkenstein_ i woke up they were gone [11:43]
funkenstein_ distribued in a few micron layer around my apartment [11:43]
mircea_popescu wut ? [11:45]
funkenstein_ the ramen? [11:46]
funkenstein_ turned to smoke and settled evenly around the room [11:46]
funkenstein_ CVD [11:46]
mircea_popescu mk... [11:49]
nubbins` funkenstein_ 4 beer in the fridge, 2 empties by the garbage [11:49]
nubbins` not drunk [11:49]
nubbins` awake at 7am after opening the first beer at 11pm? probably coked up [11:50]
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pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099374 << if only it were so simple. [11:54]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 13:37:43; mircea_popescu: restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down [11:54]
nubbins` pete_dushenski i figured i'd leave that one for someone who wants to put in the time [11:55]
nubbins` mp has obv never worked in a restaurant kitchen :P [11:55]
mircea_popescu i actually ran a coupla o.O [11:55]
nubbins` if you shut 'em down within a day of them failing inspection, you're the 1% [11:56]
pete_dushenski given that incubation periods for common foodborne pathogens range from 1-7 days, that people have varying susceptibilities and that most people eat out somewhat frequently, it's hard to isolate the source [11:56]
nubbins` srsly, online inspection reports. you'd be shocked [11:56]
mircea_popescu that never happened. [11:56]
pete_dushenski ya, it's almost impossible to be shut down on the spot [11:57]
nubbins` how often did you resurface the cutting boards? [11:57]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski not as hard as it was for this guy to figure out the cook leaves the door open eh ? [11:57]
pete_dushenski you'd need dozens of sick people [11:57]
mircea_popescu nubbins` end of day. [11:57]
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nubbins` now you're in the 0.1% :D [11:57]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: leaves the door open and... rat comes in ? [11:57]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski it was a comparative, he keeps tring to worm it into an absolute. [11:57]
nubbins` pete_dushenski that was a reference to my idiot roomie [11:58]
nubbins` he has a problem with securing the domicile [11:58]
mircea_popescu nubbins` nah, just, wood stuff was cheap. you'd go through multiple sets each year np [11:58]
nubbins` mircea_popescu plastic/resin cutting boards are more common here [11:58]
mircea_popescu you'd have been hanged for using plastic. [11:58]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: daily resurfacing of cutting boards ?? [11:59]
mircea_popescu yup. [11:59]
nubbins` when they finally put restaurant inspection reports online for people to read, every single restaurant i've ever eaten at was given a citation for cutting boards needing resurfacing [11:59]
mircea_popescu special machine shaved a layer [11:59]
pete_dushenski holy sweet mother of public health [11:59]
nubbins` pete_dushenski essentially you just plane 'em [11:59]
mircea_popescu cheap dude. srsly. [11:59]
mircea_popescu ^ [11:59]
nubbins` thick board'll last you a while [11:59]
mircea_popescu bout 7-8 weeks iirc [11:59]
pete_dushenski we need those here [12:00]
nubbins` !up Vexual [12:00]
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pete_dushenski specially at the chinese restaurants [12:00]
mircea_popescu fucking canada, you ran out of trees ? [12:00]
mircea_popescu stop publish so much perish, yo! [12:00]
pete_dushenski we're up to our gills in plastic [12:00]
mircea_popescu plastic was very dimly regarded. [12:00]
mircea_popescu most of the fridge pots were actually clay. [12:00]
nubbins` i also wear socks more than once [12:01]
pete_dushenski fridge pots here are plastic or glass [12:01]
nubbins` incidentally, my favourite chinese take-out was not listed in the restaurant inspection reports [12:01]
nubbins` at all. [12:01]
mircea_popescu glass works, but clay has this superb thermic inertia [12:01]
mircea_popescu heavier tho [12:01]
nubbins` clay does indeed [12:02]
* nubbins` has been toying w/ getting clay pots for his kimchi fermenting [12:02]
mircea_popescu the advantage is you can have it made in any shape for little effort. [12:02]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: so fridge shelves i guess [12:02]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: *stronger! [12:02]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski its fucking steel anyway. [12:02]
mircea_popescu dun tell me. plastic shelves ? [12:02]
pete_dushenski lol how'd you know ? [12:03]
mircea_popescu eh for chrissakes. [12:03]
nubbins` also fwiw i made kimchi day before yes, ~5th batch so far, anyone who likes food and is halfway handy in the kitchen is strongly encouraged to try making some [12:03]
mircea_popescu you know, it's a restaurant, not bottlecaps united. [12:03]
nubbins` *yest [12:03]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it makes in two days ?! [12:03]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: of course the walk-in fridges have metal grill shelving [12:03]
mircea_popescu the fermented cabagge stuff i like is 5 months [12:03]
nubbins` mircea_popescu the fermentation is *just* starting it. [12:04]
nubbins` i won't eat this util late april at the earliest [12:04]
mircea_popescu ahok [12:04]
nubbins` older is better but i honestly can't wait [12:04]
nubbins` i usually let it ferment at 20C for 4-5 days to get it going [12:04]
mircea_popescu nubbins` for the record, traditional (european) cooking happened around this large flat table of very thick oak [12:04]
nubbins` fridge after that, most of the heavy lifting's done [12:04]
mircea_popescu women (the young ones) brushed it with a steel brush each evening. [12:05]
nubbins` a [12:05]
mircea_popescu and the pots and pans each week. [12:05]
* pete_dushenski is still in shock over these fucking cutting board planing machines... [12:05]
nubbins` pete_dushenski imagine my face the first time i saw a squeegee sharpening machine [12:05]
mircea_popescu lol [12:06]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: i can barely imagine your face the first time you bought a bitcoin [12:06]
mircea_popescu anyway, to not peel off more than is fair : i rather distantly ran the kitchen, by virtue of ownership. it did have a chief cook and everything. [12:06]
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nubbins` pete_dushenski it looked kind of like this: baked.jpg [12:07]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: was this before or after 'retirement' ? [12:07]
mircea_popescu way before. [12:07]
nubbins` mircea_popescu the vast majority of fooderies are staffed by 19-20yo's with clueless managers [12:07]
nubbins` you're lucky to have 2 full time employees who know what they're at [12:07]
mircea_popescu i was not exactly clueless and very scary. the heads were in either case male, over 40. [12:08]
mircea_popescu the rest i dun really recall that clearly. [12:08]
nubbins` you need 'em to be over 40 [12:08]
nubbins` 35 at the very least [12:08]
pete_dushenski over 40 would be unheard of here [12:08]
pete_dushenski unless they're the owner [12:08]
nubbins` knowing wtf you're at would be unheard of as well [12:09]
mircea_popescu one guy wore a little chiffon thing over his moustache [12:09]
nubbins` hahaha [12:09]
mircea_popescu i STILL chuckle when i remember that [12:09]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: for the same reason [12:09]
nubbins` mircea_popescu i've seen a fair share of beard nets around [12:09]
mircea_popescu duder had a kickass moustache. hungarian. [12:09]
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pete_dushenski haha like a 'stache condom [12:09]
nubbins` always a good chortle [12:09]
nubbins` so bozo rolls downstairs, finds his cold chicken fingers on the counter [12:10]
pete_dushenski doods over 40 here are working for the gov or working in the patch [12:10]
nubbins` chuckles, throws dirty cookie sheet, in sink, smuggles food back up to bedroom [12:10]
pete_dushenski kitchen 'isn't respectable' for a man that age [12:10]
pete_dushenski because there are options [12:10]
mircea_popescu meh. people who are good at it are very happy there, i've found. [12:10]
nubbins` pete_dushenski if there's one way that north america fucked itself in the ass, it's the concept of "respectable work" [12:10]
mircea_popescu i could never get a competent cook to even contemplate anything else. [12:11]
nubbins` 20 years of "if you don't study hard, you'll have to work at mcdonald's" [12:11]
mircea_popescu tbf mcdo is not a restaurant [12:11]
nubbins` followed by x years of "what, you're too good to work at mcdonald's?" [12:11]
nubbins` o no, not even close to one. [12:11]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: lol yea [12:11]
nubbins` imagine this though [12:11]
nubbins` the major employer of youth [12:11]
nubbins` and the youth spend their youth being told they're a piece of shit if they work there [12:12]
mircea_popescu this sounds exactly puritan to me. [12:12]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: well mebbe that's what more men here need to do to be happy ? [12:12]
mircea_popescu point of woman bits is to get pregnant. what's woman supposed to do with her bits ? [12:12]
mircea_popescu ANYTHING BUT! [12:12]
nubbins` you go to japan, nobody working at the mcdonald's is sullen or put out [12:12]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski what, finding something they can be good at ? mmmmyeah... [12:12]
pete_dushenski precisely. [12:12]
pete_dushenski instead job is for making money [12:13]
pete_dushenski and after-hours is for enjoyment [12:13]
nubbins` ^ so broken [12:13]
pete_dushenski and skill isn't particularly part of the equation [12:13]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i dun get the 'anything but pregnancy' thing ? [12:15]
nubbins` speaking of jacobin magazine, i once read an essay therein which expounded upon the implicit oppression in the statement "do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life" [12:15]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski most demographically stable and psychologically sane cultures i've ever seen welcome pregnancy in young women. [12:15]
nubbins` pretty sure i won the disrespect of at least half a dozen people by tearing strips off that one [12:15]
mircea_popescu except, of course, for teh english speakers. WORST DISASTER [12:15]
pete_dushenski aha [12:16]
nubbins` but is that manufactured happiness? [12:16]
nubbins` (protip: doesn't matter!) [12:16]
mircea_popescu well it's penifactured [12:16]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what i don't get with all the libertards is why exactly they imagine oppression is a bad thing. [12:17]
mats i had a fun dream last night: diplomats resolving disputes with pistols and a shootout in a department store [12:17]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: nubbins`it's that pain in general is bad, and to be avoided [12:18]
mats crawling around coat racks killing italians. woke up when my beretta jammed and i died, go figure [12:18]
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mircea_popescu mats any good coats ? [12:18]
mats which movie? [12:18]
mircea_popescu your dream. [12:19]
nubbins` mircea_popescu because narcissism? [12:20]
mats im an IT guy, i have no idea what good coats look like [12:20]
nubbins` mats they look like the coats you see people wearing when you say to yourself "i bet that was expensive" [12:20]
nubbins` oh man. this paper place in brooklyn totally has all my business going forward [12:28]
nubbins` so i neglect to order this batch of paper on time. gotta have it in-hand this week. i choose the $220 shipping option on the website because it's the cheapest option beyond UPS ground. [12:28]
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nubbins` they call me an hour later: "this other method will get it there in 3 days, we'll do it for $130" [12:29]
nubbins` with customer service like this, IDGAF that they were closed for a week for passover [12:29]
nubbins` Vexual think far enough ahead and you'll find yourself in the woods with a bucksaw [12:30]
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nubbins` !up Vexual [12:31]
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nubbins` assbot didn't like that one [12:31]
nubbins` "Some observers have argued that Clinton’s repetition of the Democratic slogan that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare”reinforces the stigmatization of those who choose that option." [12:31]
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nubbins` pop quiz: what are the major points of canada's abortion laws? [12:32]
nubbins` heh [12:35]
nubbins` trick question. no laws on the books concerning abortion in any way, shape, or form. [12:35]
mircea_popescu abortion should be rare tho. [12:37]
mircea_popescu sorta like swallowing glass shards. [12:37]
nubbins` yeah, i think taking issue with the word "rare" is sort of missing the point [12:38]
nubbins` probably on purpose [12:38]
mircea_popescu myeah. [12:38]
nubbins` imagine: "abortion should be safe, legal, and commonplace: [12:38]
nubbins` " [12:38]
mircea_popescu imagine something else : what the same "observers" (= famished idiots trying to make money out of blather) would have said in that case. [12:39]
nubbins` anyway. you can get an abortion in canada a week before your due date, if you can convince a doctor to give you one [12:39]
mircea_popescu "oppressive heternormativeness forcing women tyo be pregnant!11" [12:39]
nubbins` (protip: you probably can't) [12:39]
mircea_popescu i certainl;y couldn't. [12:39]
nubbins` vous, not tu [12:40]
nubbins` i don't think a nurse practitioner would do it [12:40]
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nubbins` not even a "body mod practitioner" [12:40]
nubbins` ;;google todd bertrang [12:41]
gribble Todd Bertrang - BME: Tattoo, Piercing and Body Modification News: ; The Entrapment and Imprisonment of Todd Bertrang - BME: Tattoo ...: ; Conversations with Luna: Todd Bertrang - YouTube: (1 more message) [12:41]
nubbins` i wonder what todd bertrang is up to these days [12:43]
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nubbins` i recall taking some terrible advice of his at one point in the past [12:44]
nubbins` wait, no, that was tom brazda's advice [12:44]
mircea_popescu "The only reason that John Delorean avoided a long term prison sentence is that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt was able to obtain tapes showing not only that the drug trafficking idea was invented and proposed by the US government, but that both the cocaine and the money were provided FBI, and most importantly, that John Delorean told the undercover agents that he wasn’t interested and begged to be let go — the tape [12:44]
mircea_popescu s show the agents actually threatening to kill John Delorean’s daughter if he didn’t proceed with the drug deal. It should also be noted that Larry Flynt was briefly imprisoned for contempt of court for revealing this information." [12:44]
mircea_popescu where's these tapes then ? [12:44]
mircea_popescu "At age forty, he was almost single-handedly responsible for the popularity of female genital modification, which, largely due to his promotion of it, had moved out of the fetish scene and become a lucrative business for cosmetic surgeons. [12:46]
mircea_popescu While many outsiders disapproved of Todd’s methods and highly sexual lifestyle, the vast majority of Todd’s clients — all consensual of course — spoke extremely highly of him and were very happy with the work he’d done on them." [12:46]
mircea_popescu lolk [12:46]
nubbins` http://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/10/us/hustler-publisher-tells-judge-delorean-tape-was-a-fake.html [12:48]
assbot HUSTLER PUBLISHER TELLS JUDGE DELOREAN TAPE WAS A FAKE - NYTimes.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO57Yq ) [12:48]
mircea_popescu aha. [12:48]
nubbins` true flynt style [12:48]
mircea_popescu myeah. [12:48]
nubbins` Under questioning from James Walsh, an Assistant United States Attorney, Mr. Flynt said he got the tape from a mystery man he identified only as ''the samurai.'' [12:49]
mircea_popescu somehow the bme people don't seem to have heard of this tho. [12:49]
nubbins` hahaha [12:49]
nubbins` mircea_popescu dem blinders [12:49]
mircea_popescu "John Delorean recently died destitute, having failed to bring his dream car back to market. [12:49]
mircea_popescu That brings us to piercer and cutter Todd Bertrang, a regular BME contributor that was first profiled in PFIQ magazine." [12:49]
nubbins` larratt was a whitewasher like no other [12:49]
mircea_popescu slightly dishonest, aite [12:49]
mircea_popescu here's a picture of a cute cat. this brings us to your daugther. she's a slut. [12:49]
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mircea_popescu "Ask yourselves: how far would you compromise your ethics for $20 million? That’s an amount of money so high that you’d be able to fulfill all your dreams and live in luxury for the rest of your life. At how many million dollars does your cracking point lie?" [12:50]
mircea_popescu dude... gtfo. a) 20mn isn't even a house. b) investment is investment. they're not gifting him 20mn. [12:50]
mircea_popescu i need 20mn in loans like i need another glass of water. if i want it i'll get it myself. [12:50]
nubbins` nevermind that this family can't fly back to egypt but will pay $20mn to cut off some flaps [12:50]
nubbins` the number of people who cared when bertrang was arrested? epsilon [12:51]
mircea_popescu "And then, before letting him decide whether or not he’d actually make such an ethical compromise, in late 2002 the FBI raided his house, and Todd Bertrang and his girlfriend Robyn have been in prison ever since. No real evidence was ever presented against them, and no trial was ever held. Virtually no one stood up to defend Todd, and even those who supported of him cowered cautiously, fearing that they would be next [12:51]
mircea_popescu . Robyn was threatened with the loss of her daughter, and eventually the two of them, being told they would be spending the rest of their lives in prison should they plead not guilty, chose to make a false confession on a variety of charges in exchange for reduced time." [12:51]
mircea_popescu idiots. [12:51]
nubbins` entrapment or not [12:51]
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nubbins` iirc, the whole "mods" vs "practicing medicine w/o license" thing was a BIG DEAL in the usa at the time [12:52]
nubbins` guy was destined for jail either way [12:53]
mircea_popescu "Felon in Possession of a Firearm [12:53]
mircea_popescu Alright, that one is probably legitimate, although Todd claims that it’s more a matter of confusion and not being told that it was an issue — thanks to America’s lax laws on gun purchases, no red flags showed up when he bought a handgun for home protection and he never considered at the time it was a problem." [12:53]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha. top kek. [12:53]
mircea_popescu NOW we find out the guy had priors ? [12:53]
nubbins` heh [12:53]
mircea_popescu kinda late. [12:53]
mircea_popescu and conveniently not mentioned. [12:54]
nubbins` http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/decode/11/5/V/1114A [12:54]
assbot DEL CODE § 1114A : Delaware Code - Section 1114A: TONGUE-SPLITTING; CLASS A MISDEMEANOR; CLASS B MISDEMEANOR; CLASS G FELONY; ADDITIONAL CIVIL PENALTIES ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO5EcT ) [12:54]
mircea_popescu i'ma assume it's rape, assault with a deadly weapon, three counts of arson and some insurance fraud [12:54]
nubbins` "Tongue-splitting in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor." heh [12:54]
mircea_popescu uh... [12:54]
mircea_popescu "(c) Any person found guilty of a second or subsequent violation of this section is guilty of a class G felony for such second or subsequent offense." [12:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, tongue's a pretty dangerous infection spot. [12:55]
nubbins` in fact, tongue heals itself remarkably quickly [12:55]
nubbins` the biggest danger with tongue splittings is having them.... unsplit [12:55]
nubbins` if you DO get an infection, yes, your head's a terrible place to get one [12:56]
nubbins` but happens much less often than you'd think [12:56]
mircea_popescu everything happens a lot more than people who don't think think. [12:57]
nubbins` hey, i said than YOU'D think. [12:57]
nubbins` tu, not vous 8) [12:57]
nubbins` consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths [12:58]
nubbins` dem chipped teeth [12:59]
nubbins` quickest piercings to heal tho [12:59]
nubbins` again, because the tongue is designed to heal incredibly quickly [13:00]
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nubbins` !up Vexual [13:02]
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nubbins` ugh, all i get on youtube now are ads for QuadrigaCX [13:02]
nubbins` *is ads [13:02]
nubbins` BREAKING: RNC Chief Bill Janes has ordered an internal investigation into the leak of an email written by the officer who shot Don Dunphy in Mitchells Brook last week [13:05]
nubbins` lel. [13:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199514 @ 0.00029438 = 58.7329 BTC [+] {2} [13:05]
nubbins` guy sends an email to EVERY EMPLOYEE of the police force and we're surprised it got out? [13:05]
nubbins` Vexual Common Lisp, tho, or Scheme? [13:05]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/don-dunphy-case-rnc-investigating-leak-of-officer-s-email-1.3030527 [13:07]
assbot Don Dunphy case: RNC investigating leak of officer's email - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO6I0q ) [13:07]
nubbins` the email in question can be viewed here, in case anyone's wondering how a cop would try to whitewash a murder to his colleagues: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/rnc-officer-who-shot-don-dunphy-wishes-better-intervention-possible-1.3027828 [13:08]
assbot RNC officer who shot Don Dunphy wishes better intervention possible - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO6N42 ) [13:08]
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pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo qntsideration : http://dpaste.com/2VQ0JX4.txt [13:17]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:17]
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pete_dushenski ;;later tell cazalla and yours! http://dpaste.com/0SGW1HY.txt [13:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:19]
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pete_dushenski nubbins`: that cop is pretty fucked. [13:22]
pete_dushenski "i wish i didn't have a kill a dude for writing a tweet" [13:23]
pete_dushenski "but there was obviously no other way to shut him up" [13:23]
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nubbins` he sure is [13:26]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "EUR/USD Parity in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1111/ Odds: 82(Y):18(N) by coin, 80(Y):20(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.10203517 BTC. Current weight: 76,182. [13:28]
pete_dushenski wow spieth made $1.8 mn yesterday. nb for a 21 yo. [13:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 208800 @ 0.00029943 = 62.521 BTC [+] {2} [13:31]
pete_dushenski and rose failing to get up and down on 18 cost him what... $300k ? [13:31]
pete_dushenski dat inflation i tell ya, a major was maybe a cool million 10 years ago [13:32]
pete_dushenski ^golf tawk for curious log readers [13:32]
pete_dushenski i really don't follow it anymore but happened to catch the last hole of the tournament at the health club yesterday [13:33]
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* nubbins` seriously considers putting all of roomie's possessions out on the sidewalk [13:34]
nubbins` it actually bothers me more, the closer it gets to the end of the money [13:35]
nubbins` *month [13:35]
nubbins` money too tho, heh. [13:35]
pete_dushenski you gonna toss his plastic cutting boards to the curb ? [13:36]
nubbins` he doesn't own any cutting boards [13:36]
pete_dushenski "An examination of its tail may reveal whether the father or the mother was keeping those eggs warm, offering new clues about the social lives of those dinosaurs. It may also reveal where feathers came from, since oviraptors didn't fly and aren't that closely related to the dinosaurs that gave rise to birds, Persons added. "This tells us that in fact complex feathers first originated not for flight or for glidin [13:36]
pete_dushenski g, but for socials or sexual displays." " [13:36]
pete_dushenski ^in fact! [13:36]
nubbins` birds, the sexiest dinosaurs of all [13:36]
pete_dushenski such science these paleotards [13:37]
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pete_dushenski though i suppose it's not an unreasonable assumption to say that feathers were +ev for mating before anything else, calling it 'a fact' is a bit loose [13:37]
pete_dushenski meh i nitpick. [13:38]
nubbins` maybe he meant to say "in theory" [13:38]
nubbins` or "hypothetically" [13:38]
nubbins` or "anecdotal evidence seems to suggest" [13:38]
nubbins` after all, what is the plural of anecdote if not fact? [13:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 284750 @ 0.00029982 = 85.3737 BTC [+] {3} [13:38]
nubbins` besides, pete, how you gonna get those sweet research bucks if you're not claiming facts? [13:41]
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pete_dushenski i wonder who funds research into dinofeathers [13:43]
pete_dushenski shell ? gov ? [13:43]
pete_dushenski or just old doods who made a buck along the way and think that dinosaurs are neato [13:43]
pete_dushenski perhaps wishing that someone would care that much about their old bones someday [13:44]
nubbins` brb jazz cig [13:48]
nubbins` pete_dushenski probably universities who say "hey, this researcher is interested in X, and if he publishes some papers, we get $Y" [13:48]
nubbins` "this is totally Z!" [13:48]
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pete_dushenski lol [13:52]
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nubbins` cut the cloth you have in front of you, or w/e the fuck [14:00]
nubbins` not like the lead researcher is gonna produce a paper worth shitting on if they don't care what the research is about :D [14:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162828 @ 0.00030024 = 48.8875 BTC [+] {2} [14:05]
ben_vulpes http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton [14:14]
assbot the button ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkbDrV ) [14:14]
pete_dushenski 'you must log in' [14:16]
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pete_dushenski "Amazon Echo is designed around your voice. It's always on—just ask for information, music, news, weather, and more. Echo begins working as soon as it detects the wake word." [14:18]
pete_dushenski "add gelato to my shopping list" [14:18]
jurov ;;isup trilema.com [14:19]
gribble trilema.com is down [14:19]
pete_dushenski "wikipedia: abraham lincoln" [14:19]
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jurov mircea_popescu: ^ same here since yest [14:19]
pete_dushenski "turn off the lights" [14:19]
ben_vulpes "echo: produce me a steak" [14:19]
ben_vulpes jurov: there's fallout from the fetlife brouhaha [14:19]
ben_vulpes dc nulled trilema's ip [14:19]
williamdunne ben_vulpes: fetlife? [14:20]
pete_dushenski of note, i never say "turn off the lights" but rather "close the lights" [14:20]
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pete_dushenski the french "ferme les lumieres" has gibbled my english [14:20]
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chetty whos coming to the conf that I can twist their arm for a favor? [14:21]
ben_vulpes whatcha need, chetty? [14:21]
pete_dushenski williamdunne: it's in the logs [14:21]
ben_vulpes !s fetlife [14:21]
assbot 41 results for 'fetlife' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fetlife [14:21]
williamdunne !s fetlife [14:21]
ben_vulpes williamdunne: see above [14:21]
assbot 41 results for 'fetlife' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fetlife [14:21]
williamdunne Oops [14:21]
williamdunne Thanks [14:21]
chetty some kelp/iodine tablets :) [14:22]
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ben_vulpes http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-150mcg-Natural-Tablets/dp/B0001T0CL2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428945438&sr=8-1&keywords=kelp+iodine+tablets << like this? [14:22]
assbot Amazon.com: Now Foods Kelp, 150mcg of Natural Iodine, 200 Tablets: Health & Personal Care ... ( http://bit.ly/1zahTvo ) [14:22]
pete_dushenski i dunno why anyone would want to talk to a computer instead of type into it [14:23]
ben_vulpes it's not a computer, pete_dushenski [14:23]
pete_dushenski what else are they doing around their house that's occupying their hands ? changing diapers ? [14:23]
ben_vulpes it's the foooooooture [14:23]
chetty yup ben_vulpes something like that would be perfect :) [14:23]
ben_vulpes you got it chetty [14:24]
chetty my hero :) [14:24]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: i'll be damned if i let 7 microphones connected to teh cloud in ma house [14:24]
williamdunne http://web.archive.org/web/http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/ * [14:25]
williamdunne Sorry.* [14:25]
williamdunne *This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.* [14:25]
assbot Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zai89E ) [14:25]
williamdunne lol [14:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00030027 = 9.1282 BTC [+] [14:25]
pete_dushenski echo makes it even easier to end up like that dead canadian tweeter [14:25]
mats https://youtu.be/4zKQ2QrdQNA war porn [14:25]
assbot Kurdish Peshmerga Send IS Flying - IS SVBIED Goes Airborne And Explodes In Mid-Air | Iraq War 2015 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zai9dM ) [14:25]
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ben_vulpes lol mats how'd they get that truck so high up in the air? [14:28]
mats IED [14:29]
mats prob a 50 pound charge [14:29]
ben_vulpes so the IED truck drove over an IED, blasted off like team rocket and then assploded at apogee? [14:29]
mats yup [14:30]
ben_vulpes goodness. [14:30]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099372 << now we know that mircea_popescu really -did- build 'stakeoilets' in his bathrooms [14:39]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 13:36:52; mircea_popescu: women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ? [14:39]
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TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats [14:47]
gribble Current Blocks: 351969 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 830 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47894617759.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.13829 [14:47]
TheNewDeal anyone ever seen a calculation for typical statistical two week step for a difficulty change at flat hashrate? [14:48]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: parasitronic thread: http://www.linear.com/solutions/1218 << example [15:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:03]
assbot Solutions - LTC3588-1 3.3V Fluorescent (Electric Field) Energy Harvester ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsoMAY ) [15:03]
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ascii_field http://www.linear.com/solutions/5153 << further examples from that vendor. there are others, and it is entirely possible to achieve the effect with discrete components [15:04]
assbot Solutions - LTC3331 Charging a Battery with Harvested Energy ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsoVo9 ) [15:04]
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ascii_field (basic boojum of 'harvested' energy from heat, small photovoltaic, vibration, etc. is that current is small, voltage varies wildly, and polarity also fluctuates) [15:07]
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pete_dushenski http://i.imgur.com/7tk7oK8.png [15:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OspqP3 ) [15:10]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [15:11]
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ascii_field pete_dushenski: wat [15:11]
pete_dushenski $5k glasses of wine and bubbly ? [15:12]
ascii_field and where is the attached golden toilet bill for crapping it out once eaten ? [15:12]
ascii_field (can we safely assume that golden toilet in this restaurant charges per-kg ?) [15:13]
pete_dushenski still looking.. [15:13]
pete_dushenski and as far as waitering goes, $7,328.20 seems pretty, pretty, pretty sweet [15:14]
jurov http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/your-money/at-nello-a-case-of-restaurant-bill-shock-the-haggler.html .. but, this is 2 figures more [15:14]
ascii_field where'd this come from, anyway [15:14]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykojNm ) [15:14]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: ahem. reddit. [15:15]
ascii_field l0l [15:15]
ascii_field and who said homo redditus was poor, aha [15:16]
pete_dushenski 'this is what rich people do' or somesuch being the title [15:16]
pete_dushenski ah, no claim was made to ownership, merely 'o lookie here' [15:16]
* ascii_field will one day complete his mars lander and see alive what 'rich people do' [15:16]
pete_dushenski because money is unfair [15:16]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: well, you're going to the conference so... [15:17]
pete_dushenski you might imagine mystery, but you know full well! [15:17]
ascii_field pete_dushenski: i went to c2 also [15:17]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: i recall this well as these are the source of the only pictures i've ever seen of you [15:18]
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BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Can you please rewrite without the first paragraph footnotes being footnotes in the first paragraph? [15:20]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: nonsense. there's no such thing as someone who isn't interesting to look at. [15:21]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: ayup. brb [15:21]
ascii_field l0l [15:21]
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BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Thanks. [15:22]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: The information is useful to include, the method of using first paragraph footnotes weirds up the first page though. [15:22]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/1KJ1WWY.txt [15:27]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykpDjp ) [15:27]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 506 @ 0.00452203 = 2.2881 BTC [+] {3} [15:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38790 @ 0.00030098 = 11.675 BTC [+] [15:29]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2015/04/xapo-wants-to-pay-you-to-play-video-games/ [15:29]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: ty [15:30]
BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch [15:30]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: wunderbar [15:30]
pete_dushenski gotta keep that place fresh! [15:33]
pete_dushenski "Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ? [15:35]
pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/04/olivier-janssens-bitcoin-floundation-out-of-money-hates-transparency/#comment-17941 [15:35]
assbot Olivier Janssens: Bitcoin Floundation Out Of Money, Hates Transparency | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykqCzV ) [15:35]
BingoBoingo Just woke up and getting to the news digging [15:37]
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pete_dushenski ascii_field: how is it that you have asciilifeform !up you sometimes ? [15:46]
pete_dushenski remote access to keys ? [15:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66378 @ 0.00029535 = 19.6047 BTC [-] [15:50]
trinque https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/12/8392769/nsa-front-door-access-encryption-key << "Front door" not "back door"! very comforting [15:53]
assbot The NSA wants tech companies to give it 'front door' access to encrypted data | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1FCHAH6 ) [15:53]
pete_dushenski it's 1990 all over again [15:53]
trinque same thing happened with the patriot act [15:54]
trinque written and proposed long before it actually passed [15:54]
trinque they'll ram this through the same way if it takes 30 years [15:54]
trinque though I wouldn't be surprised if they pass something this year [15:54]
pete_dushenski ^sounds like a bitbet! [15:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 20000 @ 0.000065 = 1.3 BTC [-] [15:55]
trinque heh, mere speculation [15:55]
williamdunne trinque: Would front door not suggest that its easier to enter than simply a back door? [15:56]
trinque williamdunne: NSA proposes they become keybase.io for all encrypted communications [15:56]
williamdunne trinque: except with NSAbase.io you *have* to give them your keys [15:57]
trinque indeed [15:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 18160 @ 0.000065 = 1.1804 BTC [-] {2} [15:58]
trinque so what of encryption done on airgapped networks? [15:58]
trinque this implies a requirement that encryption be done on internet-connected machines [15:58]
trinque I guess it doesn't if the NSA keys are bolted into every system made [15:58]
trinque it's hard to fathom precisely what they propose here [15:59]
trinque probably something like "uh... we need access to all the iPhones" [15:59]
williamdunne trinque: I would imagine they either a) want flawed PRNG or b) want all encryption to be done to the recipients key and the NSA's golden key [15:59]
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trinque williamdunne: sure, then they want to monitor all communications in order to enforce this requirement (nothing new, but brings it into the "open") [16:00]
williamdunne trinque: I suppose we should be thankful that the GPG developer is in Germany [16:02]
ben_vulpes williamdunne: that guy has nothing to do with anything [16:03]
ben_vulpes gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use. [16:04]
ben_vulpes and will remain that way until someone in la serenissima gets fed up and rewrites it. [16:04]
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mats not so complicated, cert. store and USG owns a master key [16:08]
mats flawed PRNG, borked constants, etc, would be a hard sell [16:08]
mats oh, thats what i get for not reading the article [16:09]
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lobbes gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use << oy, so my privkey isn't as private as I thought? I feel like I'm always realizing I'm using the borked versions of all the things [16:35]
lobbes !s gpg 1.4 [16:35]
assbot 1 results for 'gpg 1.4' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gpg+1.4 [16:35]
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ascii_field pete_dushenski: how is it that you ... << perlscript, nothing remarkable [16:38]
ascii_field pete_dushenski: remote access to keys ? << not as such [16:39]
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funkenstein_ speaking of which i was going to ask you guys if gpg needs ecdsa support [16:40]
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ascii_field funkenstein_: why?! [16:40]
TheNewDeal did trilema migrate? [16:40]
funkenstein_ so one could use a bitcoin key for gpg privkey [16:41]
funkenstein_ ascii_field, for some reason i was unable to ask myself that simple question thanks :P [16:42]
funkenstein_ there are multiple DSAs, seems like it is supposed to be extensible [16:43]
ascii_field funkenstein_: so one could use a bitcoin key for gpg privkey << i am still at a loss as to why one might wish to do this.. [16:43]
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funkenstein_ for example, i could check your pubkey and send you coin [16:43]
funkenstein_ i mean, it saves the step of you signing an address [16:44]
lobbes did trilema migrate? << I, too, have not been able to load it today [16:44]
funkenstein_ which isn't much advantage i guess [16:44]
ascii_field funkenstein_> for example, i could check your pubkey and send you coin << you can do that now. create addr, fill it, send over proper pgp [16:44]
ascii_field *send its privkey over [16:44]
funkenstein_ hmm yeah [16:45]
funkenstein_ well why are there multiple DSAs in gpg? [16:46]
ascii_field cruft [16:46]
BingoBoingo Historical artifacts [16:47]
funkenstein_ yeah i guess there is no need to make it crufiter [16:47]
funkenstein_ gpg --sign-tx [16:47]
funkenstein_ gpg --get-me-a-pizza [16:48]
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funkenstein_ sometimes people like to use gpg for key management [16:49]
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ascii_field the 'key management' is, imho, a crudfest and Must Die (TM) [16:50]
funkenstein_ you mean like the lifetimes and whatnot? [16:51]
ascii_field like it having any state at all [16:51]
funkenstein_ the keys have to live somewhere on disk [16:51]
ascii_field keys yes [16:51]
ascii_field but operator should select path on file system and give, e.g., destination pubkey for a ciphergram, as operand on commandline. [16:51]
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ascii_field ditto the key expiration thing [16:53]
ascii_field it is mostly worthless as presently implemented [16:53]
ascii_field (e.g., can i tell gpg 'this key is now expired but existing signatures remain valid until heat death of universe' ? afaik no) [16:53]
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funkenstein_ i agree but i thought that was cause i haven't been using it long enough [16:54]
ascii_field ^ and yes this doesn't exist because it is not physically possible to implement it as a hard guarantee (why is an exercise for the reader) [16:54]
ascii_field but to my eye this is a reason to dispense with the 'expiration' and other nebulous 'meta' entirely. [16:55]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field yeah, it is an example. [17:01]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099740 << i was like 6 [17:02]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 15:53:31; nubbins`: consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths [17:02]
Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio [17:03]
Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio [17:03]
Michail1 midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio [17:03]
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Michail1 Anyone have a suggestion on if arch or debian is better suited for pogoplug? recommendation? [17:06]
trinque dunno why one or the other would be best suited [17:06]
trinque depends mostly on whether you have a working kernel config [17:06]
mircea_popescu kinda intended to be neutral iirc. [17:06]
ascii_field Michail1: what is the machine used for? for instance, if as a blunt weapon, than a length of chain is preferably to debian -and- arch [17:07]
ascii_field *preferable [17:07]
trinque lol [17:07]
mircea_popescu ascii_field the pogoplug ? it's used to run the bitcoin node [17:07]
Michail1 intended to be used only as a full node. [17:07]
ascii_field Michail1: then neither [17:07]
Michail1 thanks. [17:07]
ascii_field build own linux. instructions can be found in the log. [17:08]
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trinque !s buildroot [17:08]
assbot 63 results for 'buildroot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=buildroot [17:08]
mircea_popescu he's still gonna start offa something. iirc danielpbarron had instructions from arch ? or was it debian ? [17:09]
Michail1 Thanks. As I was converting the plug, I discovered that both builds were listed/suggested, but wanted to know if there was a reason to choose one over the other. Hell, I will just make one of each since there is no compelling reason to do one over the other. [17:10]
ascii_field the original cookbook used arch. [17:10]
trinque http://danielpbarron.com/pogo/howto.txt [17:10]
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trinque http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html << I also found this helpful as a general guide to putting a linux on the thing. [17:11]
assbot Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) [17:11]
trinque Michail1: ^ [17:11]
trinque as far as which distro, it's just a matter of preference; nothing in one or the other will rule out operating on the pogo [17:11]
Michail1 Thanks. That is the one I used; however, that one is more geared to debian although I did arch. Also, that link doesn't tell you that booting from the USB3 ports doesn't work (costing me an hour). [17:12]
mats recent versions of debian and arch have systemd fwiw [17:12]
ascii_field Michail1: i have a 'buildroot' config published, that yields a minimal linux for pogov4. [17:14]
ascii_field it is not difficult to build. well worth it. [17:14]
mircea_popescu "For Mr. Dunphy, we were simply too late — but that doesn't mean we stop forging ahead into hopelessness, anguish and despair with the view of creating betterment, safety and wellbeing for the citizens we serve." [17:14]
mircea_popescu dude this guy should be shot already. [17:14]
mircea_popescu fucktards. [17:14]
ascii_field what even. [17:16]
Michail1 ascii_field - published ehere? [17:16]
mircea_popescu some idiot canadian murderer for hire thinks that working for the prime minister allows him to not only shoot random people [17:16]
mircea_popescu but also shoot the fact that he's a murderer for hire shooting people. [17:16]
ascii_field Michail1: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html [17:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zaxj2K ) [17:17]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099792 << what's wrong with the bit in question ? [17:18]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 16:31:45; pete_dushenski: such science these paleotards [17:18]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Didn't you hear? He has popular mandate! [17:18]
mircea_popescu yeah, right. [17:18]
mircea_popescu it's quite obvious executions will be required, and en masse. just saying it now so people don't start pestering me with concerns once we're in a position to do it, like they did last fucking time around. [17:18]
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mircea_popescu no, shooting the "dictatorial couple" is neither here nor there. shooting ^ that guy is the point. [17:19]
danielpbarron Michail1, i have bitcoind working on Arch; when i tried it on debian i ran into problems relating it not being a "static" build [17:20]
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danielpbarron height=322036 vs height=222926 [17:20]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099821 < yeh yeh, being workt on. [17:21]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 17:14:08; jurov: mircea_popescu: ^ same here since yest [17:21]
ascii_field '"Although I cannot regret my actions last Sunday, I unequivocally wish I could have visited Mr. Dunphy at a point in his life where another level of intervention may have been possible," the officer wrote in the email, obtained by CBC News.' [17:22]
ascii_field mega-l0ltr0n! [17:22]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099842 << illiterate people. [17:23]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 17:17:50; pete_dushenski: i dunno why anyone would want to talk to a computer instead of type into it [17:23]
* ascii_field for what it's worth expects to be killed in some variation on this theme [17:23]
mircea_popescu roughly speaking, the dwim dweeb crowd. [17:23]
mircea_popescu ascii_field i would hope that if you point a gun at some idiot govt agent, you a) it's not a rifle indoors ; b) it's not a 22 caliber etc. [17:23]
mircea_popescu i'd say i hope you shoot them, but then again you're not muscle so. [17:24]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: don't forget the basic formula here [17:24]
ascii_field there needn't be any of these props involved [17:24]
mircea_popescu heh. [17:24]
ascii_field the rifle will be placed on the corpse by the police dept. at their leisure, etc. [17:24]
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williamdunne mircea_popescu: Seems to me that being able to use voice commands could have limited usage for mundane tasks, so they can be performed without distraction from what you are actually trying to do [17:24]
mircea_popescu williamdunne it's a psychological thing dood. there's a large swath of imbeciles pretending like they're using computers. [17:24]
mircea_popescu the welfare governments wish to cultivate this pretense. [17:25]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Do you not think it would be useful to be able to set a reminder without leaving your text editor? This is the sort of mundane task I was thinking of (certainly not enough to spark any sort of industry) [17:25]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099853 << lmao wut. https://archive.today/9LwIF [17:26]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 17:20:03; williamdunne: *This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.* [17:26]
assbot The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume II on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zayj6R ) [17:26]
mircea_popescu the way back machine apparently sucks. good to know [17:26]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: fetlife has told the wayback-machine to drop your blog post [17:26]
ascii_field iirc it is directly usg-affiliated. [17:26]
mircea_popescu alexa iirc. [17:26]
mircea_popescu ie, amazon [17:26]
trinque williamdunne: keybindings, not voice commands [17:27]
trinque learn ya a proper window manager like stumpwm [17:27]
williamdunne wayback-machine does all sorts of derpy things, like it uses the current robots.txt rather than the historical robots.txt at the time of publication. [17:28]
williamdunne trinque: I'll have a look at it, I just like the idea of saying "remind me to get food out of the oven in 20" while in the middle of doing something that might actually matter [17:29]
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trinque williamdunne: if being able to do that requires shipping an audio file of my every command to google, I'll pass [17:31]
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trinque the speech-to-text maybe not; parsing and interpeting what's said, surely [17:31]
williamdunne trinque: guess it depends on the amount of functionality, doesn't seem like it would require to much to cover a fairly large number of commands [17:32]
trinque program launcher bound to key, pick a reminder proggie, keybinding to add reminder, type stuff, [17:32]
trinque should take less than 10 sec [17:33]
lobbes or egg timer for oven related tasks ;/ [17:33]
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mats http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-12/saudi-arabia-s-plan-to-extend-the-age-of-oil [17:42]
assbot Saudi Arabia's Plan to Extend the Age of Oil - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1zazKCx ) [17:42]
mats "In 2005, when a book by oil analyst Matthew Simmons predicted a drop-off in Saudi output would signal that global supplies were beginning an irreversible decline, Naimi belittled the claims and promised higher production capacity. He won the argument. The Saudis pump more today than a decade ago." heh. [17:43]
mircea_popescu heh. the saudis are stuck. sitting on a pile of non renewable resources is only valuable if the resources are still relevant. [17:46]
mircea_popescu crushing obama is obviously worth "all the oil" to them [17:46]
mircea_popescu funny who the us allies in the midwest are. [17:46]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099870 << what arer you actually asking ? [17:47]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 17:43:05; TheNewDeal: anyone ever seen a calculation for typical statistical two week step for a difficulty change at flat hashrate? [17:47]
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williamdunne The calculation wouldn't change regardless of hashrate change would it? [17:48]
mircea_popescu i dunno [17:49]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099877 << nothing quite beats washing down 20 dollar potato salad and 40 dollar "chunk of parmesan" with 10k magnum cristal. [17:51]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 18:05:10; pete_dushenski: http://i.imgur.com/7tk7oK8.png [17:51]
mircea_popescu who are the gypsies in question ? [17:51]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: they're as yet unknown to me [17:55]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: any word back from fortune ? [18:02]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: Do you not think it would be useful to be able to set a reminder without leaving your text editor? This is the sort of mundane task I was thinking of (certainly not enough to spark any sort of industry) [18:09]
ben_vulpes << your text editor doesn't handle reminders etc? [18:09]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: yours does ? [18:10]
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ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: http://sachachua.com/blog/2007/11/setting-up-appointment-reminders-in-org/ [18:11]
assbot Setting up appointment reminders in Org - sacha chua :: living an awesome life ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI0jPD ) [18:11]
ben_vulpes http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Appointments.html [18:11]
assbot GNU Emacs Manual: Appointments ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI0kD6 ) [18:11]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: yes. [18:12]
pete_dushenski huh neat trick [18:12]
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williamdunne ben_vulpes: thanks for those links, I'll look into that [18:15]
ben_vulpes heh i don't really expect you to just start using emacs [18:25]
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williamdunne ben_vulpes: If I had a reason to change, I might. I've been meaning to look into it for a while [18:36]
williamdunne "Did you know that the average tax return so far for 2015 is $3,539! What would, or will, you do with that hard earned money the government so graciously returned to you after borrowing it at 0% interest?" [18:39]
williamdunne lol [18:39]
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pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/13/the-usefulness-of-idiots/ [19:04]
assbot The usefulness of idiots. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7wHSh ) [19:04]
pete_dushenski aite, that done, time to go for a walk. [19:04]
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mats many folks got free money this year [19:10]
mats 'Earned Income Tax Credit' [19:10]
jurov as "free money" i tend to imagine something other [19:11]
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jurov https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/xaGffxAM-hs the end is nigh [19:23]
assbot Google Discussiegroepen ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7BH9I ) [19:23]
lobbes re: tax idiocy. There are towns where I live that feel fit to tax income on residents that make their money out-of-town. [19:23]
lobbes Of course they don't tell you this when you move into these municipalities, thus leaving many fucked a few years down the line with interest, et al [19:24]
mats and you can't tell them to fuck off if you live out of state? [19:25]
lobbes ah, but these aren't even state taxes. 'Local Tax' [19:26]
williamdunne lobbes: The USG does the same on foreign earned income.. when you neither live nor work in the US [19:26]
jurov "Finally, some people conflate the idea of a global transition from plain HTTP to HTTPS as a move by CA's to make more money. They might argue that first, we need to get rid of CA's or provide an alternative path for obtaining certificates. I disagree. Switching from plain HTTP to HTTPS is step one. Step two might include adding more avenues for establishing trust and authentication." [19:26]
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lobbes 'the time for plaintext is over' l0l [19:26]
jurov step 3: PROFIT!!! [19:26]
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jurov "If you actually go to read the details of the proposal rather than relying only on the headline, you'd find that there is an intent to actually let you continue to use http for, e.g., localhost." [19:27]
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jurov lulzmine [19:28]
trinque "let you" << LOL? [19:28]
trinque yeah.. like portland's fucking "art tax" [19:30]
trinque damn it; I was scrolled up :p [19:31]
trinque lobbes: ^ [19:31]
lobbes art..tax? [19:31]
lobbes oh god [19:31]
trinque yeah, you know, to support... art... for the children (?) [19:32]
trinque precursor to a portland income tax, I guarantee it [19:33]
lobbes l0l, you weren't kidding: https://www.portlandoregon.gov/revenue/article/422384 [19:33]
assbot FAQs | Arts Tax | The City of Portland, Oregon ... ( http://bit.ly/1aXHvGC ) [19:33]
lobbes "If due, the Arts Tax is $35 per person" [19:33]
trinque totally not a poll tax, because it doesn't count if you make less than 1000/yr [19:34]
lobbes ha [19:34]
trinque this country is full of imbeciles [19:34]
williamdunne trinque: I was led to believe it was for the disabled gay orphaned puppies [19:34]
williamdunne (who need artwork) [19:34]
trinque I'm sure it is [19:34]
trinque so they can finger (paw?) paint [19:35]
trinque but more importantly to spin up a new bureaucracy that can handle taking an income tax in [19:35]
trinque "The practical effect of the tax is to tax income of certain City residents within a certain income range and is therefore not a poll or head tax." LOL [19:37]
trinque how bout a tax on everyone with arms [19:37]
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mircea_popescu mmkay ima be going through the log here. [19:51]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099891 << on the basis of that bill i'd say the six in question are poor. [19:52]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 18:10:52; ascii_field: and who said homo redditus was poor, aha [19:52]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099917 << i answered the dumbass. [20:00]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 18:30:28; pete_dushenski: "Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ? [20:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099930 << in 30 years the "tech companies" will be exactly like the janissary corps. a very expensive pretense. [20:01]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 18:49:07; trinque: they'll ram this through the same way if it takes 30 years [20:01]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099941 << derps don't even want to think about separate nets. [20:02]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 18:53:12; trinque: this implies a requirement that encryption be done on internet-connected machines [20:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099950 << undersigned. [20:02]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 18:59:08; ben_vulpes: and will remain that way until someone in la serenissima gets fed up and rewrites it. [20:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099958 << i thought you didn't like perl. [20:03]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 19:33:30; ascii_field: pete_dushenski: how is it that you ... << perlscript, nothing remarkable [20:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099962 << mnot yet. [20:03]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 19:35:44; TheNewDeal: did trilema migrate? [20:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099969 << idem. provisioning servers takes a while apparently. [20:04]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 19:39:06; lobbes: did trilema migrate? << I, too, have not been able to load it today [20:04]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099984 << undersigned. [20:04]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 19:45:59; ascii_field: like it having any state at all [20:04]
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mircea_popescu if only we had a bitcoin host already ;/ [20:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100100 << nope. [20:06]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 20:57:40; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: any word back from fortune ? [20:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100114 << imo the entire "obamacare is a tax not a fine, but a fine not a tax, but the irs can't go after you except if they owe you tax returns" has been mostly an exercise in "we don't wanna pay tax returns anymore". [20:07]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 21:34:15; williamdunne: "Did you know that the average tax return so far for 2015 is $3,539! What would, or will, you do with that hard earned money the government so graciously returned to you after borrowing it at 0% interest?" [20:07]
mircea_popescu which a desperate govt would be doing, obviously. and so... one way or another... [20:07]
williamdunne But USG spending is so stable? Hence why they keep growing year on year. [20:08]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100127 << this will become the norm as senenissima continues to wipe out tax receipts across the world. [20:08]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 22:18:42; lobbes: re: tax idiocy. There are towns where I live that feel fit to tax income on residents that make their money out-of-town. [20:08]
williamdunne (they being the collective employees of the USG) [20:08]
mircea_popescu they only exist because of the expenditure. how would it not grow ? [20:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100132 << yeah, very lulzy all that posturing. [20:09]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 22:21:13; jurov: "Finally, some people conflate the idea of a global transition from plain HTTP to HTTPS as a move by CA's to make more money. They might argue that first, we need to get rid of CA's or provide an alternative path for obtaining certificates. I disagree. Switching from plain HTTP to HTTPS is step one. Step two might include adding more avenues for establishing trust and authentication." [20:09]
mircea_popescu yes, the time for plaintext is over, but because wots and so on, not because pki. [20:09]
mircea_popescu pki isn't even a thing anymore. i don't use it, for instance. [20:10]
jurov i quoted that mainly because of the planning [20:10]
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mircea_popescu it's lulzy ill grant you that [20:11]
jurov step 1. make utter mess step 2. whatever [20:11]
mircea_popescu myeah [20:11]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100149 << how about "an arts tax to support the artsy sorts of dumb bitches with etsy accounts ? $35, includes two mandatory blowjobs / year from any female wearing the mandatory "I am an Etsy ho" bracelet, anklet or tramp stamp" ? [20:12]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 22:28:39; lobbes: "If due, the Arts Tax is $35 per person" [20:12]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1100157 << prolly. [20:13]
assbot Logged on 13-04-2015 22:30:33; trinque: but more importantly to spin up a new bureaucracy that can handle taking an income tax in [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7619 @ 0.00029449 = 2.2437 BTC [+] [20:20]
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mircea_popescu and speaking of pki, http://31.media.tumblr.com/6414e1f72efb150eea265ba6c835a190/tumblr_n3v281cStV1see514o2_400.gif [20:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GEnuSm ) [20:29]
mats heh, six people in the office had their tax returns stolen [20:29]
mats thanks Anthem! [20:30]
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mats (also, can anyone explain why the IRS issues debit cards for refunds? i'm told they're "untraceable" by folks that spoke to LEOs regarding the matter) [20:31]
mircea_popescu lmao what do you mean untraceable. [20:31]
mats i have nfi [20:32]
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mats http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.1/03389.html [20:40]
assbot Linux-Kernel Archive: [GIT PULL] x86/asm changes for v4.1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GEqP3X ) [20:40]
williamdunne mats: Somehow I doubt that the IRS wouldn't track to whom they issue each card [20:43]
mats https://reverse.put.as/2015/04/13/how-to-fix-rootpipe-in-mavericks-and-call-apples-bullshit-bluff-about-rootpipe-fixes/ [20:46]
assbot How to fix rootpipe in Mavericks and call Apple's bullshit bluff about rootpipe fixes | Reverse Engineering Mac OS X ... ( http://bit.ly/1GErL8o ) [20:46]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c plox to check your emails ty. [20:52]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:52]
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