Forum logs for 12 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform re: fork wars << i find it strange that the phoundation folks are derping around with block size, etc. rather than shooting for straight dekulakization. [00:00]
mircea_popescu this is just as good, if it passed. [00:00]
asciilifeform or is this more of a 'camel's nose' affair [00:00]
kakobrekla my guess is nobody really knows what the actual fuck is going on. [00:01]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: you know. we used to have a "no alcohol on sunday" policy. [00:01]
thestringpuller used to not affect, me. Today, I'm like "Sweet time to get beer". [00:01]
asciilifeform what even is the point of gigantic blocks ? [00:01]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla quite certain you're right [00:01]
BingoBoingo what even is the point of gigantic blocks ? << More pretend businesses for the Mr Spamzors [00:02]
* kakobrekla beats sexyginger. [00:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ? [00:02]
asciilifeform i can guess. [00:02]
mircea_popescu so then ? huge instablocks, miners running into the disaster of textile [00:02]
mircea_popescu "a well, bitcoin was a great idea, unfortunately it failed. clearly ron paul can't win office" [00:03]
BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Things happen [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65150 @ 0.00053569 = 34.9002 BTC [+] {3} [00:05]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller btw, how does it feel to like hit it with article ? [00:07]
thestringpuller Meh. Can I go into hiding like hanbot now? [00:08]
mircea_popescu lol [00:08]
mircea_popescu getting hassled ? [00:09]
mircea_popescu "An as yet unknown1 individual or group has taken up the mantle of DPR and launched the next iteration of the Silk Road marketplace, but this time around it's not accessible via Tor." [00:10]
mircea_popescu heh. [00:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where was this ? [00:11]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: So, I'm a big Dave Chappelle fan. Anyhow when he got heckled and ragequitting off stage during one of his last stand up shows he came back out and said something to the audience: "You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out, I was wrong. You people are stupid." This is how I [00:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform qntra [00:12]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i recall that. [00:12]
mircea_popescu Basically they fired the guy who blew $1.5Million and only 5 Transactions (probably sub $10) to show for it. [00:12]
mircea_popescu BitPay will soon be dead. They probably make $1000 per month revenue and burn around $500K. [00:12]
mircea_popescu wait.... reddit no longer loves bitpay ? [00:13]
mircea_popescu that leaves what, propping the scam foundation ? [00:13]
mircea_popescu no, fred wilson on twitter isn't it. i mean business. [00:13]
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mircea_popescu "I think the bigger issue is that Bitpay doesn't have a long term business model. Even assuming that Bitcoin adoption grows, transfer of Bitcoin to fiat is a programmable function. People will immediately cut out the middle man if it becomes less expensive, and its a bit of a race to the bottom as people compete in the space for the best rates, quickest conversion and most apis." [00:14]
mircea_popescu heh. [00:14]
mircea_popescu no moat, eh ? aww. [00:14]
mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2yp1/is_bitpay_spending_too_much_9_employees_were_laid/cnm0n9q << if anyone wants to point out to bruce fenton that http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=D.BPAY isn't selling worth a crap. and it's damned cheap too. [00:15]
assbot bruce_fenton comments on Is Bitpay spending too much? 9 employees were laid off last week. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDpff9 ) [00:15]
assbot D.BPAY last 2@0.23999999 ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDpgQf ) [00:15]
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hanbot ty! [00:17]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, done [00:18]
hanbot how did you not have a stroke while in the trenches of super retardism? << what matters are facts; doesn't matter how often idiocy is repeated by idiots, or how exotic it gets. also, cold showers. [00:18]
hanbot lol mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2s23ap/the_womans_job_is_to_find_a_great_man_not_good_by/ [00:19]
assbot "The woman's job is to find a great man (not good, by the way), suck his cock, wash his socks and write his eulogy." Bitcoin thought leader Mircea Popescu enlightens. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1yuV1 ) [00:19]
mircea_popescu awww, internets no like eulogy talk ? [00:20]
hanbot i guess it's more fun to play unobservant psych undergrad than to think. [00:21]
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mircea_popescu hanbot i wonder how many of these milktoothed experts of letters and matters even understands what the sockwashing reference is. [00:26]
mircea_popescu judging by teh arguments, i guess now. [00:26]
mircea_popescu not* [00:26]
hanbot judging by the arguments, i'd be surprised if the thing was read beyond the title's first nine words. [00:31]
mircea_popescu i guess that also. [00:34]
BingoBoingo lulz!!! http://www.vox.com/2015/1/10/7521819/sanders-mmt-kelton [00:36]
assbot Bernie Sanders opens a new front in the battle for the future of the Democratic Party - Vox ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1BKzS ) [00:36]
mircea_popescu o.O [00:37]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/1097/ltc-to-top-one-bitcent-before-march/ [00:45]
assbot BitBet - LTC to top one bitcent before March :: 0.04 B (4%) on Yes, 1.06 B (96%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 93`098 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1wNBVdw ) [00:45]
mircea_popescu 25:1. i guess not huh. [00:45]
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mircea_popescu proof of cum ? [00:51]
[\] is there a cumcoin yet? [00:52]
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mircea_popescu not afaik [00:53]
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BingoBoingo !up undata [01:00]
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undata BingoBoingo: ty sir [01:00]
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undata I should script auth better instead of doing it by hand like a derp each time. [01:04]
BingoBoingo Nah [01:04]
undata but eh, bouncer makes me lazy [01:04]
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hanbot hanbot i wonder how many of these milktoothed experts of letters and matters even understands what the sockwashing reference is. << is it that bogart-bacall in the desert episode? [01:06]
mircea_popescu african queen yup [01:06]
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thestringpuller damn that's a good movie [01:16]
thestringpuller the d00d from maltese falcon and shit [01:16]
thestringpuller that guy was a dynamic actor. [01:17]
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mircea_popescu kinda so-so, that one. to have and have not, the big sleep, stuff like that rather. [01:18]
thestringpuller the big sleep had some dope "slang" [01:18]
mircea_popescu hepburn's outright annoying as a love interest. [01:18]
mircea_popescu she does a splendid eleanor of aquitanie and generally dowager roles, [01:19]
mircea_popescu but i don't see anyone'd ever want to fuck her. [01:19]
thestringpuller not as annoying as marilyn monroe in some like it hot :P [01:19]
mircea_popescu what, dumb blonde to perfection. [01:19]
thestringpuller maybe I'm just not into the dumb blonde type! [01:19]
mircea_popescu i guess my very heavy "not a whore, not a woman" bias is showing. [01:20]
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BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2yp1/is_bitpay_spending_too_much_9_employees_were_laid/cnm7rwk [02:10]
assbot um_ya comments on Is Bitpay spending too much? 9 employees were laid off last week. ... ( http://bit.ly/1B8frJJ ) [02:10]
cazalla that is funny considering the timing of the article on trilema other day lol [02:11]
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BingoBoingo It really is [02:13]
danielpbarron lol ya, my redditvote made the qntra comment go to the top [02:14]
BingoBoingo lol [02:14]
danielpbarron weew i made hope and change happen [02:14]
BingoBoingo I still doesn't look like one of the many crap spewing anuses pretending to news because of forgoing bootstrap is not a design virtue. [02:16]
* asciilifeform failed to parse this sentence ^ [02:17]
BingoBoingo Coindesk for axample is an anus. It looks like it uses Bootstrap (mobile first design turd). I dunno how visual difference between Qntra and an anus is not a net positive. [02:18]
asciilifeform http://nms.csail.mit.edu/spinal [02:32]
assbot Spinal Codes ... ( http://bit.ly/1B8lz4w ) [02:32]
* asciilifeform annoyed, ^ remarkably similar to an idea he had been chewing on [02:33]
mircea_popescu lol [02:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why's that annoying you ? [02:37]
undata qntra could have a media query to change the width on mobile.. just sayin [02:38]
undata I use an rss reader so it doesn't affect me either way [02:38]
mircea_popescu don't smartphones autoadjust ? [02:38]
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undata mircea_popescu: yes, but as qntra has what appears to be a fixed pixel width it ends up with rather small fonts on mine [02:39]
cazalla mircea_popescu, Qntra is not perfect, at least not on an iphone but it's readable [02:39]
mircea_popescu cazalla prolly should get rid of absolute px specification in favour of %s [02:40]
undata I am otherwise totally unoffended by the minimalism [02:40]
undata mircea_popescu: yes [02:40]
mircea_popescu pretty much all browsers/platforms handle that well [02:40]
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mircea_popescu cazalla dude did you people get more reddit comments/votes today than sharesd ? [02:42]
mircea_popescu maybe qntra should pay dividends in social media crap. [02:42]
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thestringpuller can i use karma to buy MPOE? [02:42]
cazalla yeah, lots of comments and feedback and bad advices [02:42]
thestringpuller at least gavin's enemies came out of the woodwork... [02:43]
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mircea_popescu any substance to this "Tony "I Like Underage Girls" Gallippi" angle something awful's pushing ? [02:43]
thestringpuller yea [02:43]
thestringpuller cazalla has da full scoop on that [02:43]
thestringpuller it's old news tho I thought [02:43]
cazalla he was just the cameraman, what's the problem?!?! [02:43]
thestringpuller "cameraman" lol [02:44]
mircea_popescu fill me in ? [02:44]
cazalla actually, i don't know the full story, i think thestringpuller has that [02:44]
thestringpuller man this was months ago [02:44]
thestringpuller we were researching and found a few articles saying he was setting up underage girl shoots [02:44]
thestringpuller was technically legal, but sketchy as hell [02:44]
thestringpuller lemme see if I can do some digging [02:44]
cazalla mircea_popescu, he's allege to have run a glamourshots business but claimed he was only the cameraman, i dunno the facts tbh [02:44]
mircea_popescu i thought it was that other derp that got put away for something pedo related [02:45]
mircea_popescu some expert i wrote about at some point [02:45]
thestringpuller http://valleywag.gawker.com/the-bitcoin-broker-and-the-13-year-old-girl-in-the-biki-1563202590 << there we go [02:45]
mircea_popescu how is bitpay being run by a fucking cameraman [02:45]
cazalla how is it not? [02:45]
mircea_popescu heh i guess that's a point [02:46]
mircea_popescu soopermodels.com lol ok, i recall this now. [02:46]
undata dude can't even opsec his pedo-ing and he wants my coin [02:47]
mircea_popescu of course, all this wasn't exactly exceptional in 2002 or w/e. [02:48]
asciilifeform why's that annoying you << i have a heuristic for picking lines of inquiry that's heavily weighted against what i know other folks to be doing [02:48]
asciilifeform it makes life more interesting. [02:48]
thestringpuller ^- so do vidya games [02:48]
mircea_popescu "Lets not forget the real paid shills on /r/bitcoin as well. The fuckwits who were paid to spread the usage of 'bit' as a unit. I wonder how much BitPay spent on that one." << that's a kinda funny one. yet another place where derps diverge from mp, derps fail & get burned, derps dun learn. [02:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah but i mean... so it's great, less shit to worry about, someone else;s doing it. [02:49]
mircea_popescu i guess im just lazy. [02:49]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: it's interesting to see some of the derps waking up and exiting the cave. [02:49]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu presumably does not say 'glad somebody else is doing this!' when sees gurl being ravished from long way away [02:50]
mircea_popescu "How much did the Bitcoin Bowl cost? Was it really worth sacrificing nine of your best and brightest?" << heh. once you put it like that, it burns. [02:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform if she likes it ? why not ? [02:50]
mircea_popescu i can't fuck em all god help me. [02:50]
undata !b3 [02:50]
asciilifeform 'why not' isn't quite the same as 'glad i don't have to!' [02:50]
undata bah I lose [02:50]
mircea_popescu ok, you got me there, but still. [02:51]
BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UsR7uNrs--/lj39ksnah0qe4csxhsri.gif [02:53]
mircea_popescu in unrelated news, im kinda blown away that the point that an eulogy's job is to illustrate how great the deceased was and how worthless the world by comparison is somehow controversial. [02:53]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B8qYsm ) [02:53]
mircea_popescu is this because reddit is too young to have given much thought to funerals etc ? [02:53]
BingoBoingo Prolly [02:53]
mircea_popescu but i mean... they're in literature too. [02:53]
mircea_popescu well, i guess not in o'reilly stuff. hm. [02:54]
mircea_popescu "an eulogy guide for dummies" ? [02:54]
asciilifeform do plebe funerals still have eulogies? [02:54]
asciilifeform or just an excavator, cement mixer, and some beer ? [02:54]
BingoBoingo "professional mourner" [02:55]
BingoBoingo Except promoted to Eulogies [02:55]
asciilifeform those date to at least babylon [02:55]
BingoBoingo Instead of merely sobbing [02:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i've been to plenty of great ones. [02:56]
mircea_popescu tbh pleb funerals prolly beat fancypants funerals. tho maybe that doesn't hold in fake-usia [02:56]
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asciilifeform was specifically thinking of usa (where the reddit folks likely live) [02:57]
mircea_popescu never been to a funeral us side. [02:57]
* asciilifeform lives in usa for ~22 yrs but in a kind of cultural bubble, and not entirely certain how much of what he thinks of as civilization, remains intact there [02:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: blown away that the point that an eulogy's job is to illustrate how great the deceased was and how worthless the world by comparison is somehow controversial << their problem is with the second half of the sentence. which is, of course, entirely like disdaining one side of the battery [03:00]
asciilifeform 'we don't need no minus terminal' [03:00]
mircea_popescu i guess i'm thinking more of stuff like http://jurnalul.ro/special-jurnalul/o-iubire-asa-de-mare-ucide-72900.html [03:00]
assbot "O iubire asa de mare ucide" ... ( http://bit.ly/1B8sQ4x ) [03:00]
mircea_popescu (ballerina kills herself after her novelist husband dies) [03:00]
mircea_popescu the guy was pretty good, too, stefan augustin doinas. [03:00]
mircea_popescu http://www.romanianvoice.com/poezii/poezii/mistretul.php << "silver toothed boar" [03:01]
assbot Poezii Romanesti ... ( http://bit.ly/1B8t9MJ ) [03:01]
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asciilifeform s/tooth/tusk ? [03:03]
asciilifeform tusk/tooth [03:03]
mircea_popescu yeah [03:03]
mircea_popescu shit, i'm translating this, it's just too good. [03:03]
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mircea_popescu otherwise, https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=site:trilema.com+colti+argint&complete=0 [03:05]
assbot site:trilema.com colti argint - Buscar con Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1B8ubIu ) [03:05]
mircea_popescu turns out it's a big deal. [03:05]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/use-riseup-net-and-read-books-thats-a-paddlin/ [03:25]
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BingoBoingo !up asciilifeform Your connection seems iffy today. Is there a van waiting to take you on vacation? [03:29]
ben_vulpes hola [03:29]
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ben_vulpes ;;later tell hanbot ty, much appreciated [03:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:30]
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BingoBoingo !up asciilifeform Your connection seems iffy today. Is there a van waiting to take you on vacation? [03:31]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: dying hardware [03:31]
BingoBoingo Ah [03:32]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: don't get abducted. you say such amusing things. (No you don't amuse me like a clown. I do not view you as Joe Pesci) [03:32]
BingoBoingo Joe Pesci was not always a clown. [03:34]
thestringpuller not until home alone I suppose [03:34]
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ben_vulpes [] how do other envision the future when reward goes towards 0. either a btc is worth half a planet or the fees amount per block go up a few orders of magnitude or network is dead << little bit of columns a and b [03:43]
thestringpuller you mean we'll be able to buy planets in the future? [03:44]
thestringpuller fuck buying an island. [03:44]
ben_vulpes hold on to your butt(coin)s! [03:44]
thestringpuller nighty night keep your butthole tight! [03:44]
ben_vulpes [] Just consider that, when Satoshi said "gain a new territory of freedom for several years," he had a reason. Bitcoin is not the end-all-be-all of systems. Mining may not be a long-term solution. But inflation is non-negotiable, regardless. << who are you again? [03:45]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/the-silver-tusked-boar/ [03:54]
assbot The silver tusked boar pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1soGMp9 ) [03:54]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-silver-tusked-boar/ [04:13]
undata mircea_popescu: beautiful imagery in english; I'm sure the sound of it matches in romanian [04:14]
mircea_popescu i butchered it as far as everything but the imagery is concerned. [04:14]
mircea_popescu in romanian it's actually oyu know, like a poem, with rhyme and errything [04:15]
undata ha figured so [04:15]
BingoBoingo Usually how translation works [04:16]
mircea_popescu kinda, yeah. fucking impossible to make poetrywork in nonflexional languages. [04:17]
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BingoBoingo Among other things English can be condemned for English is incapable of Opera [04:22]
mircea_popescu but great for theatre [04:23]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYgCjGYDoV8 << sound, actually. [04:23]
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BingoBoingo Funny how that works. [04:24]
BingoBoingo How language shapes the form the work is best presented in [04:33]
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mircea_popescu $vwap F.DERP [05:12]
empyex mircea_popescu: F.DERP 1 day: average: 0.000033 high: 0.000033 low: 0.000033 volume: 1000 btc: 0.033 7 day: average: 0.000033 high: 0.000033 low: 0.000033 volume: 1000 btc: 0.033 30 day: average: 0.000033 high: 0.000033 low: 0.000033 volume: 1000 btc: 0.033 [05:12]
mircea_popescu ;) [05:12]
BingoBoingo Oh, listed at last [05:17]
mircea_popescu it'll be the lulz of all time if d.bpay is the first derp to bite it. [05:19]
mircea_popescu "And now in practical terms : there once existed this thing called NeoBee. It pretended to be a Bitcoin business, but inasmuch as its purported CEO was not in #bitcoin-assets, it never stood a chance. This is a point oft neglected, but by far the best predictor of success or failure in the Bitcoin space : that channel is where the industry meets. If a purported business is not well represented in there, it is not well [05:25]
mircea_popescu represented in the future, either." [05:25]
mircea_popescu can bitpay survive its own absence here ? [05:25]
mircea_popescu time will tell! [05:25]
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davout guten morgen [05:31]
davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2015#974054 <<< no qntra should simply do away with css when displayed on mobile [05:32]
assbot Logged on 12-01-2015 05:34:53; undata: qntra could have a media query to change the width on mobile.. just sayin [05:32]
mircea_popescu can't mobile drop css itself ? [05:33]
fluffypony you can just do it as a CSS media query [05:33]
fluffypony @media screen and (max-width: 640px) { /* all the qntra CSS goes here */ } [05:34]
fluffypony done [05:34]
davout yeah well, maybe [05:35]
davout my point is that i'm interested in the content, so as long as html is used sanely it should display in a meaningful way [05:36]
davout "can't mobile drop css itself ?" <<< yeah, that would solve it, but afaik there's no such feature :/ [05:37]
mircea_popescu ... [05:37]
davout on mobile i mean gosh [05:37]
mircea_popescu isn't that idiotic ? [05:38]
davout what? that there is no such feature on my mobile? [05:38]
davout the 'disable styles' thing is pretty useful even on desktops [05:39]
davout "too much bells and whistles? content unreadable? overlay?" fuck you [05:40]
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mircea_popescu i just don' tsee how i'd use a browser w/o that [05:41]
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fluffypony Mobile Safari has Reader mode for many pages, which is exactly that [05:46]
BingoBoingo Also... Qntra still for the forseeable future does full text in its RSS feed. [05:47]
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davout fluffypony: aah, didn't think of that, reader mode is even somewhat smarter because it'll also detect the actual content and do away with the rest [05:50]
davout fluffypony: tyvm! [05:50]
fluffypony yep [05:51]
fluffypony uploading some screenies now [05:51]
fluffypony http://imgur.com/CbMsnge,pFZxM4b,4s9OZPh [05:53]
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fluffypony that's what Qntra looks like in Reader mode [05:53]
undata davout: minimal is fine but I otherwise disagree; that one can go mad with CSS doesn't necessitate doing so [05:54]
undata but yeah as mentioned above I use Press on android so I don't see the styles [05:55]
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mircea_popescu seems great to me [05:56]
davout or as saint steve jobs would put it "gorgeous" [05:57]
cazalla you make some good points mircea_popescu but the name calling.. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s43j6/hard_fork_block_size_politics_do_we_want/ [06:00]
assbot Hard fork block size politics: do we want decentralized digital gold, or just another Visa? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1DON8PY ) [06:00]
mircea_popescu let then better men make the same better points without the name calling, [06:01]
mircea_popescu and be heard because i was there to make the points, and the name calling. [06:01]
davout what's with all the 'mp owns the bitcoin wiki'? [06:03]
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mircea_popescu i own everything. [06:04]
BingoBoingo I wonder if there is an MP is Thermos conspiracy brewing https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s3ij2/investigation_about_theymos/ [06:04]
assbot Investigation about theymos : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yYwbUh ) [06:05]
mircea_popescu "It seems to me the bitcoin exchanges and companies like Bitpay will have a large say in how this goes forward. " [06:05]
mircea_popescu derp. it seems to me "exchanges" rarely survive a straight year. [06:05]
mircea_popescu " I think Theymos has done an awesome service for the community in turning the forum into something of an institution rather than not just pocking hte funds." [06:06]
mircea_popescu ahahaha oh the epic of reddit. [06:06]
punkman "So I make over a million dollars, use this on things which are clearly intended to benefit the forum and the Bitcoin community instead of myself (even if you think the money could be better used elsewhere), and I get constantly attacked for it..." [06:07]
cazalla if only they stumbled across one of the first trilema's i came across.. boy and the tree which turns into a stump for the old man to sit on at the end [06:08]
punkman hah http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mei83/for_the_amount_of_money_that_theymos_is_paying/ [06:08]
assbot For the amount of money that Theymos is paying for new forum software, we could run a bitcoin commercial during the Super Bowl. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yYx27h ) [06:08]
punkman "For the amount of money that Theymos is paying these four twenty-somethings to make forum software, he could employ Gavin Andresen full-time, six times over!" [06:09]
punkman six Gavins! [06:09]
davout cazalla: i liked this one [06:10]
davout if i was in a playful mood i'd hop over there and troll them with the payments i received for being a mod there [06:11]
mircea_popescu was this the phantom one man "corporation" he funneled the donations through ? [06:11]
davout what one man corp? [06:15]
mircea_popescu some SV thing he "hired" to redesign the forum [06:15]
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davout ah yeah, i recall hearing of that, don't know much about it tho [06:17]
mircea_popescu it's somewhere on trilema too lazy to dig up. [06:18]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony is that the derp that was hanging out here, aiming for publicity ? [12:04]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony is that the derp that was hanging out here, aiming for publicity ? [12:04]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: which one? [12:05]
mircea_popescu davout: it occurs to me that there's a rather trivial way to split gavincoins from bitcoins other than randomly attempting a double-spend, simply include some coinbase-tainted coins in your tx after the fork has occurred << this is true but it only works after you got some split. [12:05]
mircea_popescu fluffypony the ddos guy [12:05]
fluffypony lol [12:05]
fluffypony I have nfi [12:06]
mircea_popescu "o noes, bitcoin-assets didn't care, let's see if there's barely stable aspie boys somewhere else" [12:06]
mircea_popescu http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/arts/books/2015/01/SBR/ILLOS/141216_BOOKS_Minae-illo.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.jpg << haven't read the article but that image is especially imbecillic. [12:06]
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mircea_popescu i guess the url makes my poitn for me. [12:07]
mircea_popescu cazalla https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << heh o noes. fire all the women! [12:08]
assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [12:08]
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thestringpuller cazalla https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << congratulations qntra. 10k global page views in 1 mo. Baby, we major. [12:21]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/user/mitchwells << this guy's pretty lulzy. a lot of work so obviously tons of forced stuff, but anyway. [12:21]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/HvfIFjs.png this sorta lulz. [12:25]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: can bitpay survive its own absence here ? << they'll eventually send an official emmissary. [12:25]
mircea_popescu heh. [12:25]
thestringpuller i think the layoffs article has started a witch hunt tho, which is never really healthy. [12:26]
mircea_popescu it is also why you never rely on the horde for stuff. [12:27]
mircea_popescu "Bitcoin Needs a Viral Positive "Pay-it-forward" Campaign" [12:28]
mircea_popescu you know, doge dieing sucks because all these fucktards are now misrepresenting themsleves as involved with bitcoin [12:29]
mircea_popescu can't someone make a cute cat coin or something ? [12:29]
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thestringpuller We want both. And there's no reason we can't have both. << i want to be rich and poor [12:55]
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mircea_popescu you clever boy you thestringpuller. i was just writing as to the stupidity of that. [13:30]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-even-more-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/ [13:49]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: random: seems seeting cookies from mobile chrome doesn't work? [14:08]
mircea_popescu belongs in #chrome no ? [14:08]
thestringpuller XD [14:08]
thestringpuller well specifically your cookie [14:08]
thestringpuller :P [14:08]
thestringpuller but w/e [14:08]
mircea_popescu make sure you don't have two, make sure no www etc [14:09]
thestringpuller yea cleared cache on phone and reset cookie and it works [14:10]
thestringpuller glad I did the cookie method and not ip :P [14:10]
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mircea_popescu "A friend told me Bitrush was giving away bitcoins and I thought, "What the hell!" I gave them my email and verified my account. Within 12 hours I received my first payout and have received many more since. Pretty nice of them and they even called me to make sure everything was going good for me. No one from any Bitcoin related company has ever called me before and I was amazed at the level of service for spending noth [14:16]
mircea_popescu ing." [14:16]
mircea_popescu da fuck is this thing. [14:16]
mircea_popescu !s bitrush [14:16]
assbot 0 results for 'bitrush' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitrush [14:16]
mircea_popescu looks scammy as all hell. [14:16]
mircea_popescu Rob, Los Angeles [14:16]
mircea_popescu "I thought the Bitrush team was crazy for offering free bitcoins... until they actually showed up in my Blockchain wallet. These guys are nuts. Take advantage of it before they come to their senses!" [14:16]
davout guess nothing talks to idiots as much as scamming other idiots [14:17]
davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2015#974290 <<< not even, just point some cpu miner at eligius after the chain has forked, wait a bit, receive tainted payout directly from coinbase, profit [14:18]
assbot Logged on 12-01-2015 15:02:29; mircea_popescu: davout: it occurs to me that there's a rather trivial way to split gavincoins from bitcoins other than randomly attempting a double-spend, simply include some coinbase-tainted coins in your tx after the fork has occurred << this is true but it only works after you got some split. [14:18]
davout no need to get through the hassle of actually performing a double spend [14:18]
davout or creating a massive tx [14:19]
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davout (for the purpose of double spending obv.) [14:19]
mircea_popescu davout yeah, it's not hard to do that's for sure. [14:19]
mircea_popescu course, the coinbase can't be spent for probably longer tha nthe chain will survive [14:20]
mircea_popescu it's really hard to evaluate theoretically which is the practical avenue [14:20]
mircea_popescu sort-of like trying to calculate the path lightning will take [14:20]
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davout mircea_popescu: yeah you have a point with the coinbase maturation delay [14:24]
thestringpuller anyone see this snippet quoting Gavin, "Normal people, stay away from Bitcoin." [14:25]
davout thestringpuller: yeah, it was in ft amirite [14:25]
thestringpuller very confused. wants more adoption, but wants majority to stay away? [14:25]
mircea_popescu "Gavin is, by and large, a mentally retarded doofus displaying a shocking amount of Dunning-Kruger syndrome in his assorted dabblings in economics and other hard fields." [14:28]
thestringpuller I was thinking more of the confused retarded kid who mistakingly got an inheritance. [14:28]
thestringpuller but that works too [14:30]
mircea_popescu its from the same place. [14:30]
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davout mircea_popescu: wrt point VIII : what would prevent bitpay from raising even more at an even higher valuation to keep supporting the vessenes foundation circus? [14:35]
mircea_popescu what's preventing you from doing it ? [14:35]
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davout the fact that i don't support the vessenes foundation? [14:39]
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mircea_popescu besides the point. [14:39]
mircea_popescu what's preventing you from doing it to start an antelope farm [14:40]
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thestringpuller davout: i can see the current leadership of bitpay being removed as a condition of VC investing more capital [14:40]
mircea_popescu there's a ton of bitpay exceptionalism / captn of industry-ism flooding out of reddit. in point of fact, bitpay is a struggling start-up that missed the boat. [14:40]
mircea_popescu you know those stats that keep going 9x% of start-ups fail in the first bla bla ? [14:41]
mircea_popescu well dare i ask what the fraction of startups NOT ON EXPONENTIAL GROWTH CURVE that fail is ? [14:41]
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mircea_popescu they missed december. apple can miss. once. maybe. bitpay can't miss. [14:41]
mircea_popescu acquihire is the only above water fate there. [14:41]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: this is interesting, bitpay came online around the same time MPEx was coming out of beta no? [14:42]
mircea_popescu i don't recall exactly, but i don't think so. [14:42]
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mircea_popescu first i heard of em was in 2013 pretty sure [14:42]
mircea_popescu late 2012 mebbe [14:42]
davout my reasoning was, if gavin is a usg muppet, and is indirectly supported by bitpay through the foundation, like i understand you imply in VIII, there isn't that much of a rush since new cash can be poured into bitpay as another round of investment, therefore, no real rush for gavin to push the fork [14:43]
thestringpuller says bitpay was found in may of 2011 [14:43]
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mircea_popescu davout just because yellen has infinite money doesn't mean every 3rd rate bureaucrat does too. [14:44]
thestringpuller https://datafox.co/bitpay [14:44]
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mircea_popescu this is a minor project of a minor subbranch, it's not the #1 obama priority. [14:44]
thestringpuller but point is if bitpay dies, mpex is pretty much oldest company in BTC [14:44]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller guy's not in the wot. such claims are unverifiable. [14:44]
thestringpuller true [14:45]
mircea_popescu there's tons of muppets claiming they've been in bitcoin since you know, 1993 [14:45]
thestringpuller well you know I was in bitcoin back in 1978 [14:45]
mircea_popescu best i can do for em is 2013/mebbe late 2012. if anyone can do better, hey, let em say so. [14:45]
thestringpuller got into it shortly after getting back from Vietnam [14:45]
mircea_popescu lol [14:45]
davout thestringpuller mircea_popescu i met with gallipi in fall 2011 at the prague bitcoin conference, already existed at that point [14:46]
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mircea_popescu settled then. [14:46]
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davout afaik the oldest entity in the bitcoin-sphere is btc-e [14:50]
thestringpuller the 4chan or bitcoin [14:51]
mircea_popescu stuff like the original blockchain inspector is still around. [14:51]
davout the russian exchange [14:51]
mircea_popescu ya [14:52]
kakobrekla isnt it Ukrainian [14:52]
mircea_popescu i recall, with the novacoin first premine scam thing [14:52]
davout kakobrekla: i think they're bulgarian [14:52]
davout mircea_popescu: hah yeah, forgot about that, notice how i mentioned an 'entity', not a 'company' :p [14:53]
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mircea_popescu :p [14:53]
mircea_popescu also the wot, and a buncha other things [14:53]
mircea_popescu iirc btc-e is bulgarian yes [14:53]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: "it is a resources contest, and you people ARE POOR" << As XZibit would say "What's the difference between me and you? About five bank accounts three ounces and two vehicles" Or this pretty picture http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/image210.jpg [14:54]
mircea_popescu forthat matter, bitcoin magazine is just as active as it always was [14:54]
mircea_popescu 2015 number coming!!11 [14:54]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Russian Index MICEX to drop under 1000 before Feb 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1084/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.79748981 BTC. Current weight: 30,880. [14:56]
mircea_popescu lol [14:59]
mircea_popescu what's 3 oz refer to ? [15:00]
thestringpuller nugs [15:02]
thestringpuller ;;ud nugs [15:02]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nug | cannabis bud that comes in nuggets of varying sizes. a sign of quality when it comes to bud; dank is almost always in this form, but nugs of mids are far less ... [15:02]
mircea_popescu oh. i thought either one of those gold chains or else cocaine [15:02]
thestringpuller mah gold chain so heavy i can't stand up straight [15:03]
thestringpuller the days of flava flav have passed [15:04]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021461 B (Total: 469.31 B). Delta: 0.11 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000205 BTC [+] [15:04]
thestringpuller wow. its holding its own. [15:04]
mircea_popescu http://staceyjayya.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/transparency.html << why not start a kickstarter. [15:05]
assbot Stacey Jay, author: Transparency ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUyEP5 ) [15:05]
thestringpuller this is like simcity irl [15:05]
mircea_popescu Discussing the role of the hype man in the book How to Rap, Royce da 5'9" describes how a hype man can contribute to a live performance: "a lot of my verses be so constant with the flow [that] I'd need somebody to help me."[4] Lateef adds: "You're gonna have to have somebody say something somewhere to give you a breath... usually it's just a matter of getting somebody to hit some line or some word in a line - that's al [15:06]
mircea_popescu l you really need." [15:06]
mircea_popescu no, actually, the hype man is an outgrowth of the shill in 3 card monte and such games, which is what all african entertainment is descended from. he's there to give an anchor to the viewer to identify with, and immitate. [15:07]
mircea_popescu he's the guy you immitate at the table, if you don't know how to eat at the table and were told "just do what they do" [15:07]
thestringpuller gotta have a hype man [15:07]
thestringpuller that nigga dat goes, "OOOOOOooOOOoooh" [15:07]
thestringpuller preferably multiples [15:08]
thestringpuller they also are good for stuff like [15:08]
thestringpuller ;;google ayo shut the fuck up [15:08]
gribble Ayo! Shut the fuck up - YouTube: ; AYO - YouTube: ; Shut the fuck up - YouTube: [15:08]
mircea_popescu right. [15:08]
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mircea_popescu Ooof, this article hit a bit too close to home for me. [15:15]
mircea_popescu Up to probably three or four years ago, I would absolutely be that self-hating nerd Chu is talking about. Generally, I'm not that good looking. I'm fat in a bunch of weird places, tall, and pretty much just strange to look at. For most of my life, I was bullied, and even at 23 years old, I still experience a bit of bullying, and I internalize every insult I hear. Just a few days ago, a random guy in the street called m [15:15]
mircea_popescu e a "fat fucking faggot" while I was walking home from the grocery store. I know he was probably drunk and not necessarily in the best state of mind, but fuck that shit hurts. Because of that bullying, I really don't have much confidence at all outside of my own work. The first thing I think of when I meet a new person is "I wonder how disgusted he is with me." And because of that self-hatred, I've never sought out rel [15:15]
mircea_popescu ationships. I've had crushes, sure, but whenever the thought of actually forming a romantic relationship with that person would come up, I instantly shot myself down. Through shooting myself down, however, I also shot down that person. "She's shallow," I'd say, "she only wants hot jocks and douchebags. She's not worth my time." I would project all of my self-hatred onto this woman so I could avoid actually working on m [15:15]
mircea_popescu y own problems. "It's not my fault that I didn't pursue a romantic relationship with her, she's just a friendzoning bitch." This projection would then just grow and grow to encompass all women. [15:15]
mircea_popescu dude, reddit... [15:15]
mircea_popescu i really should read it more often. [15:15]
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decimation asciilifeform: re: spinal codes: one point - while the code is 'rateless' by design, in practice it has a rate [15:16]
decimation because you can't transmit for infinite time [15:16]
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mircea_popescu decimation infinite time's not needed, is it ? just as long as you're not done yet [15:20]
ben_vulpes buenos dias, terrists [15:20]
mircea_popescu otherwise it's like saying the halting problem doens't exist because no computer runs forever. [15:21]
mircea_popescu how goes ben_vulpes [15:21]
decimation I guess it depends to what degree of certainty you wish to have that the recipient got your message [15:22]
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ben_vulpes well 'nuff, well 'nuff. [15:26]
ben_vulpes biking across town and running up and down the hill a few times today. [15:26]
ben_vulpes CAN'T WAIT TO PUKE [15:26]
mircea_popescu no, merely the definition of rateless is "no rate can be computed" instead of "this constant divided by infinity" [15:26]
thestringpuller TIL ben_vulpes is not in good shape [15:28]
thestringpuller tell empress benkay to feed you vegan diet [15:29]
ben_vulpes thestringpuller: holidays were full of cake and poor self discipline this year [15:31]
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mircea_popescu it's fucking fascinating how the other half lives. [15:35]
mircea_popescu "And as anyone in indie romance knows, the waters are getting crowded, the competition is getting fierce, and I have to hustle my ass off to move books that sold themselves a year ago. I work twelve hours a day with promo, writing, and ad planning--sometimes more." [15:35]
ben_vulpes !up goulash1 [15:35]
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mircea_popescu fucking seriously ? 12 hour days to write that pulp ? for 2.3k a month ?! [15:36]
mircea_popescu i have servers i shoud probably turn off that i was too lazy to turn off that cost more than that [15:36]
mircea_popescu heck, if i can stop reading shit online for five minutes maybe i do it this month. or whatever. [15:36]
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decimation my understanding is that "rateless" means that the code is not designed with a specific rate ahead of time, but instead is a function of its specific use in a specific channel [15:37]
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mircea_popescu right. [15:37]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: trilema down [15:38]
decimation but these spinal codes are clever in the sense that they cover a variety of channel snr's simultaneously [15:38]
mircea_popescu o it is ? [15:38]
mircea_popescu um it isn't ? [15:38]
decimation At any rate, I'm traveling, will comment later. [15:38]
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ben_vulpes http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/trilema.com [15:38]
assbot Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUFwvU ) [15:38]
mircea_popescu o.O [15:38]
mircea_popescu but but but... [15:40]
ben_vulpes glhf [15:40]
mircea_popescu i can see it through like dozens of locations ? [15:40]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-even-more-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/ [15:41]
assbot Let's address even more of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUG2tK ) [15:41]
mircea_popescu how can assbot see it / [15:41]
ben_vulpes sounds like a whole lotta your problem, boss [15:41]
ben_vulpes whitelisted? iono. [15:42]
ben_vulpes [] they are starting to call the real bitcoin "MPcoin" << mircea_popescoin [15:43]
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mircea_popescu http://nibbler.silktide.com/en_US/reports/trilema.com << me shrugs. dunno what'd it be. [15:45]
assbot Website report for trilema.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1yc70uh ) [15:45]
mircea_popescu http://nibbler.silktide.com/en_US/reports/qntra.net << amusingly, qntra scores higher for mobile (8.6 vs 6,0 for trilema) in spite of trilema looking superbly on both handhelds whereas qntra gets cut off on the smaller one. [15:48]
assbot Website report for qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUHDjo ) [15:48]
ben_vulpes trilema back for me... [15:50]
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ben_vulpes hey y'all how does one configure fleanode nickserv to kick squatters? [15:55]
mircea_popescu set enforce on [15:55]
ben_vulpes thanks [15:55]
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ben_vulpes http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/store/add.php?iid=104655 [15:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yca3CQ ) [15:59]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [16:00]
gribble Time since last block: 13 minutes and 0 seconds [16:00]
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ben_vulpes [] asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ? [] asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ? << hopes that this is elaborated upon further in logs [16:02]
mircea_popescu bitcoin_charlie didn't you make a plea bargain ? [16:02]
bitcoin_charlie Yup [16:02]
mircea_popescu what exactly do you imagine anyone may wish to have to do with you after that ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu if i want to talk to preet, i can talk to preet directly. [16:03]
bitcoin_charlie Sure, go for it. [16:03]
bitcoin_charlie What does that have to do with me ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu that'd be all. [16:03]
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ben_vulpes yow [16:04]
artifexd !s bitcoin_charlie [16:05]
assbot 0 results for 'bitcoin_charlie' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoin_charlie [16:05]
ben_vulpes artifexd: i'm going to hazard that was shrem. [16:05]
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kakobrekla or impostor [16:06]
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artifexd !s qntranet [16:06]
assbot 20 results for 'qntranet' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=qntranet [16:06]
artifexd Odd duck, that one. [16:07]
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mircea_popescu qntra has a link to webirc, iirc anyone following it shows up in here as qntranet [16:08]
artifexd Ah [16:08]
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pete_dushenski so i'm on the bablogs but not the scoopbot... [16:11]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell peterl ^ ? [16:11]
gribble The operation succeeded. [16:11]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/12/the-measure-of-a-nation-is-its-bowling-pins-not-its-safe-t/ [16:11]
assbot The measure of a nation is its bowling pins, not its SAFE-T | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUMlxB ) [16:11]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/12/bitcoin-doesnt-need-a-hard-fork-it-needs-hard-people/ [16:11]
assbot Bitcoin doesn’t need a hard fork, it needs hard people. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUMocE ) [16:11]
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ben_vulpes !up bitcoin_charlie [16:22]
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ben_vulpes what was the deal with "justice has been done?" [16:23]
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kakobrekla a pussy way of saying "buggers will leave me alone now. supposedly." [16:25]
kakobrekla my guess, anyway. * [16:25]
kakobrekla * over sexygingers. [16:25]
bitcoin_charlie Its funny, someone asked me about that exact tweet this morning [16:26]
kakobrekla link? [16:26]
bitcoin_charlie I had tweeted that about 10 minutes from walking out of the court room [16:26]
bitcoin_charlie The government, until the end, faught for 30 years for me [16:27]
bitcoin_charlie I took a plea deal to avoid a trial, but if you read it, I declined to become a cooperating wittness. [16:27]
bitcoin_charlie If I had become, I could have gotten 0 jail time [16:27]
bitcoin_charlie Instead, I got 2 years. [16:27]
bitcoin_charlie @kakobrekla, its on my twitter, dec 19th [16:28]
bitcoin_charlie So Im heading to prison in 60 days. [16:28]
mike_c which one? [16:28]
* kakobrekla is confused how this morning is dec 19th [16:29]
kakobrekla which year are we at currently? [16:29]
bitcoin_charlie Im saying, I tweeted that Dec 19th [16:29]
kakobrekla and the convo from this morning is not linkable ? [16:29]
bitcoin_charlie mike_c, Im looking at Lewisburg PA, Cumberland MD, Morgantown WV and McKean PA [16:29]
bitcoin_charlie kakobrekla, which convo ? [16:30]
kakobrekla the convo about the dec 19th tweet you had this morning ?! [16:30]
kakobrekla idk forget it . [16:30]
bitcoin_charlie Ahh, no I spoke to someone on the phone about it today [16:30]
bitcoin_charlie He told me that some people were pissed I tweeted that [16:30]
bitcoin_charlie I understand, but look where I was coming from [16:31]
kakobrekla a. [16:31]
bitcoin_charlie I spent 6 figures on lawyer fees, the government wanted to send me away for 30 years. [16:31]
bitcoin_charlie I didnt win at trial, but hopefully Ill only serve less than a year [16:31]
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bitcoin_charlie Im already working on another project. [16:31]
kakobrekla so you mentioned 'new project' ... are you planing on running a gang out of prison? [16:32]
bitcoin_charlie lol, its not that kind of prison. [16:32]
bitcoin_charlie More of a white collar place. [16:32]
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bitcoin_charlie I planon teaching Bitcoin and economics while inside [16:33]
jborkl you plead down to two years correct? [16:33]
kakobrekla "so if you gonna clear bitcoin money for drug lords when you get out, do it so and so ..?" [16:33]
jborkl do you have any time served credit? [16:34]
kakobrekla i forgot where i read that but at some time in some place you could send someone else to serve your sentence if you could find such person. it wasnt a problem probably. [16:34]
bitcoin_charlie Ive been udner house arrest past year [16:35]
bitcoin_charlie So I get some time served [16:35]
kakobrekla do they give you internet there? [16:35]
jborkl federal correct or state system [16:35]
kakobrekla like if you pay for the extra luxurious accomodation [16:35]
bitcoin_charlie I will have email [16:36]
bitcoin_charlie I launched a side project last month [16:37]
bitcoin_charlie www.ActionCrypto.com [16:37]
bitcoin_charlie Let me know what you guys think [16:37]
kakobrekla binary chumpatron? [16:37]
pete_dushenski bitcoin_charlie so you're the real shrem eh? can you pgp sign something? [16:37]
kakobrekla he can twitter sign! [16:38]
bitcoin_charlie Yes, Ive done it [16:38]
bitcoin_charlie https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/554716277705822209 [16:38]
assbot Be careful about impostors, I only IRC/Reddit under the nick 'Bitcoin_Charlie' [16:38]
bitcoin_charlie https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/554717762879500288 [16:38]
assbot Be careful about impostors, I only IRC/Reddit under the nick 'Bitcoin_Charlie' [16:38]
kakobrekla see, ---- BEGIN TWITTER MESAGE ---- [16:38]
pete_dushenski heh [16:38]
bitcoin_charlie http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x41D9C9E4E1E507A6 [16:38]
assbot Search results for '0x41d9c9e4e1e507a6' ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUS0DP ) [16:38]
* pete_dushenski just noticed logs are under attack? [16:39]
kakobrekla was ? [16:39]
kakobrekla works here [16:39]
danielpbarron pete_dushenski, same for me [16:39]
kakobrekla ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com [16:39]
gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is up [16:39]
danielpbarron it's not up to date [16:39]
kakobrekla ;;isup log1.bitcoin-assets.com [16:39]
gribble log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up [16:39]
pete_dushenski bitcoin_charlie so put those two together and what do you get? [16:39]
pete_dushenski kakobrekla up, yes, recording convos, no [16:40]
kakobrekla hm [16:40]
danielpbarron ;;ident bitcoin_charlie [16:40]
gribble Nick 'bitcoin_charlie', with hostmask 'bitcoin_charlie!452ee56a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.46.229.106', is not identified. [16:40]
kakobrekla wtf did i do now. [16:40]
pete_dushenski i never know man, i never know [16:40]
bitcoin_charlie Hang on, Ill sign a message [16:40]
pete_dushenski bitcoin_charlie k cool [16:40]
danielpbarron bitcoin_charlie, you should better just register in the WoT [16:41]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2014/03/31/biting-into-the-wot-elephant-and-irc-nicknames/ [16:41]
danielpbarron ;;eregister [16:41]
gribble (eregister ) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key with . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase (1 more message) [16:41]
assbot Biting Into The WoT Elephant (And IRC Nicknames) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1DQqLJP ) [16:41]
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pete_dushenski but hey, one thing at a time [16:41]
bitcoin_charlie http://pastie.org/9828054 [16:41]
assbot Private Paste - Pastie ... ( http://bit.ly/1DQqO8H ) [16:41]
bitcoin_charlie ^ Signed messafe [16:42]
bitcoin_charlie *message [16:42]
pete_dushenski it's a start. ty [16:42]
pete_dushenski but honestly, why use http://openpgpjs.org ? [16:42]
bitcoin_charlie :) [16:42]
kakobrekla hm you have email but no gpg, in jail. [16:42]
assbot OpenPGP.js | OpenPGP JavaScript Implementation ... ( http://bit.ly/1DQr07N ) [16:42]
bitcoin_charlie All my comms in prison will be monitored [16:43]
bitcoin_charlie UNless you visit [16:43]
kakobrekla you need to get one of those cardanos. [16:43]
mats wat [16:43]
kakobrekla wear it in butt. [16:43]
pete_dushenski irlol [16:43]
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kakobrekla im sure ascii would make a dildonic version for a fee [16:43]
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kakobrekla fuck sorry im going back to work, to much material to troll here. [16:44]
pete_dushenski so bitcoin_charlie what brings you by on this sunny day ? [16:44]
bitcoin_charlie I came to talk to Mircea about a project Im working on [16:45]
bitcoin_charlie But he does not like me very much :) [16:45]
danielpbarron also, that signed message is meaningless [16:45]
danielpbarron could be saved from a former session [16:45]
bitcoin_charlie My Reddit account has been 'Bitcoin_Charlie' for over a year [16:46]
bitcoin_charlie Its the handle I use for everything [16:46]
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pete_dushenski that's cool [16:46]
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pete_dushenski i used to be "bitcoinpete" before individuating ;) [16:46]
bitcoin_charlie Honestly, Id rather use Yankee [16:47]
bitcoin_charlie Which is my bitcointalk name since 2011 [16:47]
pete_dushenski bitcoin_charlie so who are you working on this project with? [16:47]
bitcoin_charlie and my forum handle for like 10 years [16:47]
bitcoin_charlie but it was banned from freenode a few years ago [16:47]
bitcoin_charlie A couple of friends started it here in NYC, Im just helping them get organized [16:48]
bitcoin_charlie Its a great project, doing good volume [16:48]
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bitcoin_charlie Wanted t get Mircea's opinion [16:48]
pete_dushenski bitcoin_charlie: But he does not like me very much :) << eh. probably not anymore than anyone else who doesn't listen to his free advice [16:48]
danielpbarron you want his opinion of a "bitcoin business" that doesn't have a representative in the WoT? [16:49]
pete_dushenski who are these friends? [16:49]
pete_dushenski and define "good volume" please [16:49]
bitcoin_charlie Couple of people from the Bitcoin space. [16:50]
asciilifeform what project ? [16:50]
bitcoin_charlie Shoot me an email, Ill intro you [16:50]
bitcoin_charlie https://actioncrypto.com/ [16:50]
assbot ActionCrypto.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1DQsoal ) [16:50]
bitcoin_charlie In 30 days [16:50]
bitcoin_charlie Completed options: 6095 [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38750 @ 0.00053856 = 20.8692 BTC [-] {3} [16:50]
thestringpuller oh hey yankee [16:50]
bitcoin_charlie Total: 2246.819 BTC [16:50]
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bitcoin_charlie Hey [16:50]
pete_dushenski not bad i guess [16:51]
pete_dushenski and maybe instead of you e-mail intro'ing me to them, you bring them here ? [16:51]
pete_dushenski and they can introduce themselves [16:51]
kakobrekla logs synced up. [16:52]
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asciilifeform 'your ip is from usa and is banned' [16:52]
asciilifeform lol, suck moar usg cock [16:52]
kakobrekla lol [16:52]
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bitcoin_charlie Ya, no US customers allowed. [16:53]
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pete_dushenski bitcoin_charlie: Couple of people from the Bitcoin space << as meaningless as "a couple of people from the neighbourhood where i grew up" [16:53]
jurov !up bitcoin_charlie [16:54]
kakobrekla you power is weak jurov . [16:54]
kakobrekla your* [16:54]
pete_dushenski i don't know if you grew up in compton, monaco, or rural shanghai [16:54]
joecool !up bitcoin_charlie [16:54]
pete_dushenski assuming there's such a thing as rural shanghai... [16:54]
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pete_dushenski joecool what kako said! [16:55]
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pete_dushenski "We're a bunch of bitcoin enthusiasts, traders and programmers who have been involved in the Bitcoin space from the very beginning. Collectively, our background consists of over 30 years of capital markets and technology experience. " [16:57]
pete_dushenski o now i get it [16:57]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: ya know. I was thinking about Bitcoin in the car today from THE Foundations point of view. "We change for bitcoin, our ways change for bitcoin not the other way around." [16:57]
bitcoin_charlie Sorry Im back [16:57]
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bitcoin_charlie Im consulting on the ActionCrypto project, a bunch of friends are running it [16:57]
jurov how many is the bunch? 10? then it's 3 years for each one [16:57]
bitcoin_charlie The good thing about the idea [16:57]
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bitcoin_charlie Is that, everything is on-chain [16:58]
thestringpuller And that's very much what I think this war comes down to. Not block size or anything else. Just the simple fact: You are either for changing bitcoin for YOUR needs, or you are willing to adapt to bitcoin. [16:58]
bitcoin_charlie So, when you buy an option, its timestamped on the blockchain [16:58]
pete_dushenski but... sidechains! [16:58]
bitcoin_charlie and if you win, the bet comes back + payout [16:58]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller yup! [16:58]
bitcoin_charlie Every option has been paid out, and the price feed is verifiable [16:58]
bitcoin_charlie Im helping them market and look for investors [16:58]
thestringpuller in a sense we are the ones being attacked not the other way around. trying to defend and hold the gate of bitcoin fro retardism. it was a really profound moment like when the trilema train ran you over. [16:59]
TomServo as ascii says, from the lulzfarm: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/12/twitter-centcom-isis/21640577/ [16:59]
assbot CENTCOM's Twitter, YouTube accounts hacked ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUWave ) [16:59]
pete_dushenski "market" like talk or "market" like making options [16:59]
punkman PSA: openpgpjs is broken [17:00]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller love it :) [17:00]
punkman gpg: BAD signature from ""Charlie Shrem CS@CS.com" " [17:00]
pete_dushenski like the rest of chuck's pleading, bleeding head, it would seem. [17:00]
pete_dushenski that's all the ammo i've got for this round. laters! [17:01]
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punkman (sidenote: http://pastie.org/pastes/9828054/text they just gots to have html in the "raw" version) [17:02]
assbot Private Paste - Pastie ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUWLNs ) [17:02]
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bitcoin_charlie Im heading out [17:05]
bitcoin_charlie Talk to y'all later [17:05]
bitcoin_charlie Cheers [17:05]
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kakobrekla O_o [17:08]
fluffypony [21:44:01] <+bitcoin_charlie> Honestly, Id rather use Yankee [17:08]
fluffypony such original [17:08]
asciilifeform bitcoin_charlie!452ee56a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.46.229.106', is not identified. << herr shrem is under house-arrest in a datacenter ? [17:12]
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mircea_popescu soo... i go to see my private banker, her office's like four blocks down. and as i walk on the street, i see a thing that's still with me. [17:14]
mircea_popescu a bum, like a total, street dwelling bum, accosts some random guy begging. and the random guy goes like "ain't got nothing now", and hands him his coke bottle. [17:14]
mircea_popescu bum takes a sip and moves on [17:14]
mircea_popescu i don't mean no straws or nuttin. [17:14]
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kakobrekla ;;gettrust assbot bigtip [17:23]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask bigtip!~bigtip@valley-239-134.csicable.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bigtip: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bigtip | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bigtip | Rated since: Mon Apr 1 18:04:09 2013 [17:23]
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bigtip ;;ratingsystem getrating bigtip [17:24]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask bigtip!~bigtip@valley-239-134.csicable.net . User bigtip, rated since Mon Apr 1 18:04:09 2013. Cumulative rating 164, from 91 total ratings. Received ratings: 91 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 94 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bigtip [17:24]
ben_vulpes ;;rate bigtip 1 easy come, easy go. [17:25]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [17:25]
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ben_vulpes oh ho ho [17:25]
ben_vulpes ;;eauth ben_vulpes [17:25]
gribble Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~ben_vulpe@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA [17:25]
ben_vulpes ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:affcf8d12f47970d0864ea626cbe820a688382b078baac2e33e61530 [17:26]
ben_vulpes [17:26]
gribble You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA [17:26]
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ben_vulpes ;;rate bigtip 1 easy come, easy go. [17:26]
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ben_vulpes nut [17:39]
ben_vulpes splat [17:39]
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mircea_popescu hm ? [17:40]
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mircea_popescu "WASHINGTON — The Twitter and YouTube accounts of the Pentagon's command for its forces in the Middle East have been hacked, according to a defense official Monday." lawl [17:41]
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mircea_popescu http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/5b2f195789010ab5357974babf1d42b7aa00c5d6/c=157-0-896-556&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/2015/01/12/USATODAY/USATODAY/635566660431697714-Capture-5.PNG bwahaha [17:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1xrpz ) [17:47]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/ [17:48]
davout kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2015#974648 <<< sure he'd make it for the lulz [17:48]
assbot Logged on 12-01-2015 19:40:21; kakobrekla: im sure ascii would make a dildonic version for a fee [17:48]
davout kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2015#974646 <<< in which case it's technically the cardano that wears you [17:49]
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assbot Logged on 12-01-2015 19:39:55; kakobrekla: wear it in butt. [17:49]
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kakobrekla hehe [17:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform here's one for you : suppose the stavka website sported a "Afghanistani cock -> Russian eager asshole plox ty. We love real men, we're all transvestitties over here!" [17:50]
mircea_popescu what does kruschev say ? :D [17:50]
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davout kakobrekla: btw if you ever change your mind about documenting that optical device you mentioned earlier, a happy would be me [17:57]
mircea_popescu better yet manufacture & sell it ? :D [17:58]
jurov the serial cable with buffer would suffice for a start [17:59]
davout mircea_popescu: if i don't know how it works and how i take it apart i ain't buying it :D [18:01]
mircea_popescu yeah obv. just, imo better economics all around once that's on the table. [18:01]
davout jurov: i'm trying to figure out exactly what the desirable properties of such an apparatus are [18:01]
mircea_popescu of airgaps ? [18:02]
davout mircea_popescu: yeah, no argument here, does it come with t-shirts? [18:02]
mircea_popescu hopefully lol [18:02]
davout yeah, well the questions i'm thinking about are [18:02]
jurov davout i assume it has a display and "ack" button that transmits the message, and nak button [18:02]
davout should you be able to log what goes through the airgap somehow? [18:02]
davout how do you ensure what goes in on one side of the airgap is what goes out? [18:03]
mircea_popescu well ideally by keeping the pieces simple. [18:03]
kakobrekla i call it 'the gaper' as a tribute to ass gapes. [18:03]
mircea_popescu lol [18:03]
mircea_popescu also, if it has a display, that's your auditor [18:03]
davout jurov: yeah, that's the manual case, but you might want to design an automated airgap [18:03]
mircea_popescu no lma [18:03]
mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with you ? [18:03]
jurov lolwut? [18:04]
davout wat [18:04]
mircea_popescu automated airgap = turning around 360 degrees ? [18:04]
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kakobrekla 720 actually. [18:04]
mircea_popescu let's argue about it. [18:04]
davout wondering about what makes sense and what doesn't here [18:04]
jurov what's the problem with manual checks? [18:05]
mircea_popescu davout for all you know the internet is already automatically airgapped to all hell. [18:05]
davout no probs with manual checks [18:05]
mircea_popescu each hop in a traceroute [18:05]
jurov so then why you want it to be automatic? [18:06]
davout well, maybe there are some use cases where you want a uni-directional airgap [18:06]
davout or maybe you want to enforce that only some sort of messages go through [18:06]
davout guess that doesn't really count as an airgap if there isn't a manual step [18:06]
mircea_popescu like a diode yeah. conceivably. not what an airgap is toh [18:06]
mircea_popescu semiconductors aren't insulators. [18:07]
davout just don't put an emitter on the airgapped machine, no need for fancy semiconductors :D [18:07]
mircea_popescu not what i meant [18:07]
mircea_popescu i meant, your directional, or message-aware or otherwise "airgap" is a semiconductor in the flux [18:08]
mircea_popescu not an airgap (which is simply an insulator) [18:08]
davout we were discussing airgaps earlier, with a good solution being optics, right? [18:08]
mircea_popescu right [18:09]
davout so if you don't put a light emitter on the airgap machine you necessarily end up with a one-way airgap, right? [18:09]
davout that's the case i was thinking about, therefore not seeing a direct link to semi-conductors [18:10]
mircea_popescu well in the theoretical sense of your q, yes. [18:10]
mircea_popescu a diode is exactly this : current goes one way but not the other. [18:10]
davout yup, a diode [18:10]
mircea_popescu so think of your thing as a meta-diode. [18:10]
jurov the airgap isn't about technology, but about being in complete control [18:10]
mircea_popescu it doesn't work on electric flux, but "communication" flux [18:11]
davout yes [18:11]
mircea_popescu a diode, generally speaking, is a semiconductor. [18:11]
jurov if you cede control to software then it's not airgap anymore [18:11]
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davout jurov: yup, no argument here [18:11]
mircea_popescu but an airgap is not a semiconductor. the technical argument can be brougth that obviously semiconductors insulate [18:12]
mircea_popescu at least some of the time. [18:12]
mircea_popescu this is valid, but not what airgap means [18:12]
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davout more like a 'human cable' [18:12]
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davout it's the "The machine handling encryption and decryption on the MPEx side never connects to the Internet. There is no cable." bit that got me thinking about all this [18:16]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: works here << new sort of imperceptible ddos. [18:16]
mircea_popescu homeopathy ftw. [18:16]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: you need to get one of those cardanos. << lol it wouldn't be legal. [18:17]
thestringpuller is the cardano technically an airgap? [18:17]
mircea_popescu if it were, all drug lords / mafia kingpins would be in jail, offloading the cost of their security to the state, while they kept at their biz. [18:18]
kakobrekla those ppl dont care for legal, thats why they are there. [18:20]
mircea_popescu well yeah, obviously. however, teh prison people try and prevent stuff like you know, perfectly private comms. [18:21]
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mircea_popescu "4. You don't deserve to know any of that. It's none of your business. I invited my readers to chip in on a project--or not. I did not invite you to worm your nose into every aspect of my life, hunt down pictures of my home, call me names, or tell me I was worthless, arrogant, greedy, and undeserving. But you want to rip me bare and expose how awful you're sure I am. I get it, you want me transparent. How much more tra [18:25]
mircea_popescu nsparent do you want it? Do you want to know that one of the reasons I am very private about connecting my pen names is because the man who raped me enjoys making fake profiles and friending me every few years, just to get off on sending me a message and getting blocked? Do you want to hear how I shake all over and panic and relive everything he did to me when that happens? Does that do it for you? Is that transparent [18:25]
mircea_popescu enough? Do you feel you got your due? That you were able to violate my privacy and dignity enough to feel I'm worthy of ten pathetic dollars? Less than a damned movie and popcorn?" [18:25]
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mircea_popescu the woman with the kickstarter makes an excellent point. [18:25]
davout in france most inmates have cellphones in their cells. WE HERD YOU LIEK CELLZ [18:25]
mircea_popescu i wonder how many of the online derps got their start/education on camwhore sites [18:25]
mircea_popescu which aren't particularly sexy, the whole sport is, "let's humiliate / torture her" [18:25]
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mircea_popescu she definitely seems to think that's what she's getting, the other end of "lul what can we make her do ? shoe on head ?" [18:26]
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cazalla bitcoin_charlie: https://actioncrypto.com/ <<< how is this any different to updown.bt (launched April 2014, became a GOLD!! member of the bitcoin foundation but is now dead, didn't even make it to 2015) [18:39]
assbot ActionCrypto.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1wa995C ) [18:39]
davout cazalla: blockchain-all-the-things, apparently [18:40]
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davout https://coinreport.net/bitreserve-raises-6-3-million-crowdfunding-round/ [18:46]
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assbot CoinReport Bitreserve raises £6.3 million in crowdfunding round - CoinReport ... ( http://bit.ly/1wa9uoZ ) [18:46]
davout "One estimate placed the company valuation at $90 million, said the news outlet." [18:46]
davout wtf is wrong with these people [18:46]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Stacey_Jay [18:47]
assbot Stacey_Jay (@Stacey_Jay) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1wa9yoB ) [18:47]
mircea_popescu the stuff twitter's for. [18:47]
mircea_popescu davout personally, i blame their parents. [18:47]
thestringpuller dude loses his cnet money on real state [18:47]
thestringpuller thinks bitcoin is his last chance [18:47]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i blame to school systems :P [18:47]
davout why not blame them directly? :p [18:49]
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mircea_popescu fine. i blame them, their stupid fathers & bovine mothers, the fucking gooses masquerading as "educators" in a ten mile radius [18:50]
mircea_popescu and the fucking earth they walk on. [18:50]
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adlai "if they'd let me have my way I could've flayed them into shape // but my hands were tied, the bleeding hearts and artists..." [18:52]
thestringpuller lol, "If you change bitcoin, it's no longer bitcoin but something else." << should be mandatory knowledge [18:53]
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irdial ;;eregister irdial E930 6C6E 1CCE 5697 A88B 5482 5E16 D36E DB32 40F9 [18:58]
gribble Error: 'E930' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. [18:58]
mircea_popescu no spaces [18:59]
irdial ;;eregister irdial E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B 54825E16D36EDB3240F9 [18:59]
gribble Error: 'E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. [18:59]
irdial ;;eregister irdial E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9 [18:59]
gribble Error: 'E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. [18:59]
irdial hmmm [19:00]
mircea_popescu uh [19:00]
mircea_popescu is it on a key server ? [19:00]
irdial Yes [19:01]
mircea_popescu wtf. [19:01]
mircea_popescu try ;;eregister irdial 5E16D36EDB3240F9 << [19:02]
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mircea_popescu soo.... most of downtown ba is without power. [19:03]
irdial ;;eregister irdial 5E16D36EDB3240F9 [19:04]
gribble Request successful for user irdial, hostmask irdial!~irdial@unaffiliated/irdial. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/5E16D36EDB3240F9 [19:04]
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davout !up irdial [19:08]
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irdial ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ff211e140a17d6846aebcaf83249e5695f1ca5e23862c72443770251 [19:08]
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danielpbarron ;;rate irdial 1 blocked me on twitter, but i forgive him. https://twitter.com/Beautyon_/status/514374369569939456 [19:08]
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assbot What is most delightful is projects like DarkWalllet make the "Bitcoin Advicates" completely irrelevant. They can only spectate slack jawed. [19:08]
davout ;;rate irdial 1 been around for a while [19:09]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user irdial has been recorded. [19:09]
BingoBoingo ;;rate irdial 1 The other angry profit of doom we need. [19:11]
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thestringpuller Google says: "Did you mean _prophet_?" [19:13]
davout thestringpuller: "Did you mean andreas antonopoulos ?" [19:17]
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mircea_popescu adviwho ? [19:18]
BingoBoingo Bitcoin is a cult of money so of course we need profits rather than prophets [19:18]
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mircea_popescu that's an idea. [19:19]
thestringpuller when I think Prophet of Doom. [19:21]
thestringpuller I hear the voice of Zim saying it. [19:21]
ben_vulpes DOOOOOOOOOM! [19:22]
thestringpuller I introduce to you!!!! THE PROHPHET OF DOOOOOOOOOM!!!! [19:22]
thestringpuller [insert 5 minutes of maniacal laughter here] [19:22]
thestringpuller then gir pops out and does his little "cute" voice "doom doom. doom doom doom doom! I LIKE YOU!" [19:22]
ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fvOg13V5mI [19:23]
assbot It's all like KAAKOW! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xigJvs ) [19:23]
ben_vulpes (relevant at 0:49) [19:23]
mircea_popescu assbot: 5 Cryptocurrency Caricatures You'll Meet on r/Bitcoin - CoinDesk << so coindesk is at the gizmodo/mashable/demand media "stale meme list" phase of post-shark-jumping ? [19:24]
davout lol [19:26]
thestringpuller wow. when did coindesk become coincracked? [19:27]
mircea_popescu brb, writing "here's five old tshirt types you'll find at hot topic" article [19:27]
mircea_popescu gotta make trilema moar appealing to the derp generation. [19:27]
jurov no need. just send them over to r/buttcoin [19:28]
jurov lol looky what they dredged up: http://i.imgur.com/IWQsrC3.png [19:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xii9G2 ) [19:29]
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jurov no it isnt [19:30]
mircea_popescu lol [19:30]
kakobrekla at least they have cake. [19:30]
mircea_popescu poor kako has not even cookies [19:30]
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BingoBoingo !up jborkl [19:31]
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jborkl sup! [19:32]
BingoBoingo Ntm. [19:32]
BingoBoingo Charlie Shrem it seems saw the other consequence of negotiating with turdorists [19:33]
cazalla that coindesk article also reflects the total lack of news on some days [19:33]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: that, or a preet saw [19:35]
BingoBoingo Sure. [19:35]
BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/01/heads-up-dear-leader-security-hole-found-in-north-koreas-home-grown-os/ [19:36]
assbot Heads up, dear leader: Security hole found in North Korea’s home-grown OS | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1xijBsc ) [19:36]
* asciilifeform is sick of idiots referring to a linux distro as 'home-grown os' [19:37]
mircea_popescu ^ [19:37]
mircea_popescu erryone's a farmer. [19:37]
BingoBoingo lol [19:37]
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BingoBoingo irdial: Message assbot and claim your own voice! [19:40]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: well this is why you never cross the streams. they could never get al capone on rico charges so they slapped him on tax evasion. [19:40]
rithm hooray for -otc-ratings hello irdial long time blawg reader [19:40]
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BingoBoingo But if you don't cross the streams you are stuck with a giant Marshmallow. [19:41]
thestringpuller mmmm sounds dlecious [19:44]
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mircea_popescu some informative original research, fresh from marquardt : "According to Mike Hearn, Satoshi even planned on creating a reputation system integrated with the Bitcoin client that would use the number of blocks you'd individually solved as part of a system to prevent scammers from creating infinitely many accounts." [20:12]
mircea_popescu apparently, teh wot is going to be attacked next, because yeah, totally, when you fail in everything you do the logical step is to do more things :D [20:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: iirc that's not a total fiction. there was some half-written 'marketplace' thing in the initial tarball ? [20:15]
mircea_popescu a narrative completely divorced from anything is rare, no ? [20:15]
asciilifeform aha [20:15]
kakobrekla and online poker service. [20:16]
mircea_popescu "Demand for Bitcoin is not inelastic. Raise the price of using Bitcoin enough, and demand will decline. Right now, the primary reason people use Bitcoin is not its security. That's a nice benefit, but most users use it because it's cheap, and has the largest network of users, merchants, exchanges, etc. The affordability and number of users shouldn't be compromised for security. In fact, doing so will inevitably cause s [20:16]
mircea_popescu ecurity to suffer too." [20:16]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha check that shit out. [20:16]
mircea_popescu o, bitpay fails miserably on adoption ? CLEARLY WE WERE RIGHT!!! ADOPTION MATTERS! [20:17]
kakobrekla http://imgur.com/a/NPiIs [20:17]
assbot Bitcoin 0.1.0 Unreleased Features - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9cX9C ) [20:17]
[]bot Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Russian Index MICEX to drop under 1000 before Feb 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1084/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.29748981 BTC. Current weight: 30,309. [20:17]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/new-all-time-high-in-difficulty-forces-out-cloudmining-service-cex-io/ [20:17]
mircea_popescu "I don't understand why this is difficult to understand and literally I've said this three times in the past couple of days. [20:18]
mircea_popescu Everyone not on Gavin's side on this all act like low / zero fee transactions just disappear into the ether. They most certainly do not. If (when) the average block size exceeds 1MB these lower fee transactions will overrun the entire system. Servers running bitcoind will start swapping to disk instead of using memory. At that point the entire network would go down." [20:18]
mircea_popescu is it obvious why this is retarded or do i have to make a part 3 of "why gavin followers are dumb" list ? [20:18]
kakobrekla i dont see how those lists help with anything [20:21]
mircea_popescu pessimist! [20:23]
mircea_popescu http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/whatsapp-and-snapchat-could-be-banned-under-new-surveillance-plans-9973035.html [20:23]
assbot WhatsApp and iMessage could be banned under new surveillance plans - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent [20:23]
mircea_popescu basically "open government 2.0" cameroon wants to ban end to end encryption [20:24]
mircea_popescu i keep saying the boo boo about the us, but srsly, the uk is like idi amin's uganda compared. [20:24]
cazalla why would you use whatsapp and imessage if you want privacy? almost reads as if he is goading people into using it because it's hip and cool and he doesn't want you to use it [20:25]
asciilifeform ^ [20:25]
kakobrekla https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B63o0y1CEAAajCq.png lol [20:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9eDjj ) [20:26]
mircea_popescu "The Essential Role of Mixing Services: BitMixer Processes 25K BTC per Month (Interview and Step-by-Step Guide Included)" [20:27]
mircea_popescu zese people. [20:27]
cazalla kakobrekla, apparently they've come through on the $20 floor and will buy it from users over a 15 year period or some shit [20:27]
asciilifeform '...and to insure that we are compliant' << lol! [20:27]
asciilifeform insure ? [20:27]
mircea_popescu srsly, how confused do you need to be to imagine mixing works in a dedicated mixing place. [20:27]
kakobrekla cazalla how is that 'come through' [20:27]
mircea_popescu so wait. [20:28]
cazalla it's not but it is hilarious all the same [20:28]
mircea_popescu wait wait. all that buying is gonna happen later ?! [20:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform insure ensure assure, affect, effect, infect etc. just outside of the redditard's literacy bubble. [20:29]
kakobrekla association bitcoin to scam has, to me, became stronger than nigeria to scam [20:30]
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cazalla i'm not really following it now but they have some honour program now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10125456#msg10125456 [20:30]
assbot GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9fnoO ) [20:30]
mircea_popescu i fucked nigerians. i never fucked bitcoiners. kako's rule holds. [20:30]
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kakobrekla srsly, i dont wanna mention bitcoin irl anymo. [20:31]
cazalla perhaps garza's latest scheme with this honour program starting 1st feb is to push the price of paycoin back up to $20 so he can offload all his premined coins and then declare bankrupty come feb, who knows, so much bullshit makes my headspin [20:32]
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mircea_popescu i never really was too hip on it. if peopel ask, sure, tell em things, answer q's. but the sort of blind "o look what new gadget i got" thing they do... meh. it only creates more idiots for mpoe-pr to claw at. [20:32]
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mircea_popescu cazalla basically, "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". [20:32]
kakobrekla idiots are already coming at maxint rate so one more or less who cares. [20:33]
mircea_popescu also true i guess. [20:33]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i'll prove to you it makes a diff! [20:34]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/cnmqyth [20:35]
assbot kixunil comments on The Hard Fork Missile Crisis ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9g9lI ) [20:35]
mircea_popescu now where did he get the source he rewrote there ? [20:35]
kakobrekla this actually works in your favor. [20:36]
mircea_popescu aha ? [20:37]
mircea_popescu i dont see how those lists help with anything << re that. [20:37]
mircea_popescu only time a redditor said something sane on reddit this week was when he was rewriting a trilema paragraph. [20:37]
mircea_popescu that's something! [20:37]
kakobrekla perhaps it was the log. [20:38]
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kakobrekla (cause the log is free hehe) [20:38]
mircea_popescu lol [20:39]
mircea_popescu mebbe it was, at that. [20:39]
mircea_popescu o right, i had forgotten [20:39]
mircea_popescu ITS GETTING MY CREDITS SOLD BUSTER [20:39]
kakobrekla yeah you better stfu. [20:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00055623 = 14.5176 BTC [+] {2} [20:46]
danielpbarron Basically anyone who doesn't update their software will not be able to see the new blocks. They will be on an old network that would no longer be "bitcoin" - until they updated their software. It's very likely that this old network would have no transactions because nobody would bother mining it. --reddit [20:46]
danielpbarron bitcoin will no longer be bitcoin [20:46]
mircea_popescu because reddit sez so! [20:50]
mircea_popescu this adventure makes it quite obvious how the entire libertard political machine is intended to function. sort-of like, it ran into a ravine, now it's suspended, ands you can walk under it safely and admire all the pistons and whatnot without much risk. [20:51]
mircea_popescu reminds me of a much older but quite central asciilifeform point : "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." [20:52]
mircea_popescu apparently... it is being used correctly eh. [20:52]
asciilifeform ilkka kokkarinen liked to call this concept 'heightening the contradictions.' also known as 'make'em gas you' [20:53]
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mircea_popescu so far it;'s a lot more predictive-dialectic. "this is what you will say, and this is why you will be saying it, and this is how you'll respond to the previous statement, and this is why you did that, and this is how..." [20:54]
mircea_popescu supposedly the only form of psychotherapy that works. takes a while tho. [20:54]
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PeterL ;;later tell pete_dushenski your blog is on scoopbot's list, he just doesn't like you for some reason. I will look into it [20:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:56]
kakobrekla whoever responsible for rss should commit suicide. [20:59]
kakobrekla o wait. [21:00]
kakobrekla this joke never dies, [21:00]
kakobrekla unlike the author. [21:00]
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adlai on the other hand, reiserfs takes a good idea through to a great execution [21:06]
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