Forum logs for 12 Feb 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
shinohai !s https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/329 [00:02]
assbot Withdraw BIP 101 proposal by gavinandresen · Pull Request #329 · bitcoin/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1SL6O1S ) [00:02]
assbot 0 results for 'https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/329' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fbitcoin%2Fbips%2Fpull%2F329 [00:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 389466 @ 0.00056347 = 219.4524 BTC [+] {7} [00:07]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403315 << WOAH this is one of maybe total 3 chix mircea_popescu linked that has a ~living face~ [00:26]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 02:54:47; mircea_popescu: and in class cutting news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/8a6a52bee47d6be2fb5e4038ce79feb9/tumblr_nrqrymGFeu1uu92gho1_1280.jpg [00:26]
asciilifeform see, THIS is what i meant ! [00:28]
asciilifeform e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384142 [00:29]
assbot Logged on 24-01-2016 15:00:13; asciilifeform: perhaps she had the face of a human, rather than ruminant, nfi [00:29]
mircea_popescu hehe [00:29]
asciilifeform decisively opposite of 'fata de impins vagoane' [00:29]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/992864a3bd505e9f3a482f32067914b0/tumblr_nvliemHrWv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg << let's stick to backsides then [00:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1SL8sk4 ) [00:29]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403318 << wat?! [00:34]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 02:58:14; assbot: Withdraw BIP 101 proposal by gavinandresen · Pull Request #329 · bitcoin/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1SL6O1S ) [00:34]
asciilifeform or nm, the 'classic' crud was something else, new, not 101 ? [00:35]
* asciilifeform has utterly lost track of the sequence of usgola [00:35]
mircea_popescu it's really not that interesting. [00:35]
asciilifeform aha, right? [00:36]
asciilifeform ftr tumblr_nrqrymGFeu1uu92gho1_1280.jpg is the single hottest chick i've ever seen in a bitmap. [00:37]
* asciilifeform takes off hat. [00:37]
asciilifeform or nm [00:37]
asciilifeform no, yes. [00:37]
mircea_popescu lol! well so good for you. [00:38]
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mircea_popescu !up micheieh [00:57]
-assbot- You voiced micheieh for 30 minutes. [00:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46550 @ 0.00056276 = 26.1965 BTC [-] [01:39]
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danielpbarron !up DicePower [01:44]
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DicePower !register 9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB [01:44]
assbot Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB. This may take a few moments. [01:44]
assbot No valid OpenPGP data found on pgp.mit.edu. [01:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166300 @ 0.00056399 = 93.7915 BTC [+] {3} [01:45]
DicePower gpg -k --fingerprint [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144200 @ 0.00055374 = 79.8493 BTC [-] {2} [01:46]
danielpbarron i guess they don't have it in there yet [01:46]
DicePower That was the fingerprint that Kleopatra gave me. [01:46]
DicePower I assume it's the same fingerprint post upload? [01:47]
danielpbarron yeah, the key server just sucks [01:47]
mircea_popescu !rate DicePower 1 Euloran [01:58]
assbot DicePower is not registered in WoT. [01:58]
mircea_popescu hm [01:58]
mircea_popescu http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB [01:59]
assbot Search results for '0x9af0c08e3c97cf0ccdc2f6e3201e1d0c00edf5ab' ... ( http://bit.ly/1owcX5f ) [01:59]
mircea_popescu not there [01:59]
DicePower I'll try to reupload [01:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00055275 = 32.1148 BTC [-] {4} [01:59]
DicePower Key block added to key server database. New public keys added: 1 key(s) added successfully. [02:00]
DicePower !register 9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB [02:00]
assbot Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB. This may take a few moments. [02:00]
assbot Key 00EDF5AB / "First Last " successfully imported. [02:00]
assbot Registration successful. [02:00]
DicePower Yay! [02:01]
mircea_popescu theree you go [02:01]
mircea_popescu !rate DicePower 1 Euloran [02:01]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0aa13d1a7b98679a [02:01]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.DicePower.1:ba3b461a70636ce72f4019cd5e1b9de703dd70ed27056960a0383a92351e4092 [02:01]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for DicePower with note: Euloran [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192278 @ 0.00056327 = 108.3044 BTC [+] {4} [02:04]
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mircea_popescu !unrate adlai [02:17]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/85ef912e10a7ae08 [02:17]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:fa53170620fef5b0cd32d4e5f62509b0f82ae6df6ffc70841eb783f6915d4c9 [02:17]
assbot Invalid verfication string. [02:17]
mircea_popescu what! [02:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla how the fuck is this possibru [02:19]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:fa53170620fef5b0cd32d4e5f62509b0f82ae6df6ffc70841eb783f6915d4c9c [02:19]
assbot Successfully unrated adlai [02:19]
mircea_popescu oops sorry my bad [02:20]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.10000000 BTC on 'Yes' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b3 [02:21]
mircea_popescu o,O [02:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83500 @ 0.00055268 = 46.1488 BTC [-] {2} [02:28]
mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/44f775/i_wish_i_had_read_this_when_it_was_originally/ << in other lulz. [02:28]
assbot I wish I had read this when it was originally published! : mtgoxinsolvency ... ( http://bit.ly/1owfa0s ) [02:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66750 @ 0.00055225 = 36.8627 BTC [-] {2} [02:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 272300 @ 0.00055665 = 151.5758 BTC [+] {4} [02:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144600 @ 0.00055582 = 80.3716 BTC [-] {3} [03:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96660 @ 0.00055351 = 53.5023 BTC [-] {2} [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200242 @ 0.0005582 = 111.7751 BTC [+] {4} [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31701 @ 0.0005623 = 17.8255 BTC [+] [03:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97900 @ 0.00056559 = 55.3713 BTC [+] {4} [03:34]
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ben_vulpes https://medium.com/@pistacchio/i-m-a-web-developer-and-i-ve-been-stuck-with-the-simplest-app-for-the-last-10-days-fb5c50917df#.tq2thlp8r << checking in from the lulzfactory [03:52]
assbot I’m a web developer and I’ve been stuck with the simplest app for the last 10 days — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1V7VVEM ) [03:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76933 @ 0.0005623 = 43.2594 BTC [-] {2} [03:52]
ben_vulpes "talking to the community about my “analysis paralysis loop” caused by the excessive amount of available tools to choose from and to investigate resulted in the community suggesting to try out, spend time, learn and investigate four more technologies that I haven’t even considered in the first place. Good job, Javascript!" [03:53]
ben_vulpes GOOOOOOOOALD [03:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131800 @ 0.00056596 = 74.5935 BTC [+] {4} [04:06]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b4 [04:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75316 @ 0.00056623 = 42.6462 BTC [+] [04:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.0005623 = 19.2869 BTC [-] {2} [04:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121317 @ 0.0005623 = 68.2165 BTC [-] {2} [04:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17358 @ 0.00056225 = 9.7595 BTC [-] {2} [05:03]
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punkman "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…" [05:05]
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BingoBoingo BingoBoingo wait, are those NAVY seals ? << yes [06:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91300 @ 0.00056623 = 51.6968 BTC [+] [06:31]
BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403295 << No big deal other than lols have value so twitter should be denied lols that don't come at the public expense of the Mayos [06:33]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 01:01:43; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403016 << sheesh sorry. It won't happen again. [06:33]
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punkman http://www.riddellwilliams.com/blog/articles/post/hard-fork-conspiracy-treacherous lol [06:38]
assbot Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLmDWs ) [06:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96757 @ 0.00056655 = 54.8177 BTC [+] {4} [06:39]
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BingoBoingo punkman: And now the devils have to confront it [07:01]
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/45e14z/hard_fork_conspiracy_treacherous_riddell_williams/ [07:01]
assbot Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLnExJ ) [07:01]
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punkman '"Oh, you wanted to *increment a counter*?! Good luck with that!" -- the distributed systems literature' [07:18]
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punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca8j9_hUUAAgnN9.jpg:large "sorry for your loss" [07:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZw4hd ) [07:31]
BingoBoingo lol [07:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169831 @ 0.0005619 = 95.428 BTC [-] {4} [07:53]
BingoBoingo Fucking revisionists. Apparently now caffeine and not "having been the world's fattest man" killed a one time world's fattest man http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/6-energy-drinks-a-day-blamed-for-death-of-6801521.php?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link [08:05]
assbot Binging on energy drinks killed world's heaviest man - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZxzw5 ) [08:05]
BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/853570 << Justice Porn [08:30]
assbot The Long Con | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tg3fjZ ) [08:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143500 @ 0.00056622 = 81.2526 BTC [+] {2} [08:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60450 @ 0.0005667 = 34.257 BTC [+] [09:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161000 @ 0.0005667 = 91.2387 BTC [+] {3} [09:18]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403407 << mega-l0l!! land of the rising sun does not read the logz! doesn't know how to set up 'coke machine' ?! [09:47]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 08:01:06; punkman: "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…" [09:47]
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asciilifeform and from where was the quote? [09:51]
asciilifeform srsly why feed google. [09:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89132 @ 0.00056384 = 50.2562 BTC [-] {3} [09:54]
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BingoBoingo !up Reydev [10:16]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> GOOOOOOOOALD << i rolfed. [10:17]
* mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow" [10:18]
* mircea_popescu skips this nonsense. derp does not have the first clue as to bitcoin. [10:18]
Reydev Hi all. For those holding a decent amount of BTC or other crypto, would you ever consider (pseudonymously) self-identifying on a richlist-like site purely existing to flaunt your riches? [10:20]
mircea_popescu depends. [10:20]
mircea_popescu would you tell your wife ? [10:20]
Reydev Tell her what? [10:21]
mircea_popescu about your crypto fortune [10:22]
Reydev hmm [10:22]
Reydev yes [10:22]
Reydev partly [10:22]
mircea_popescu then the answer is yes, all that's left to establish is if the community in question is as close to you as your wife. [10:22]
Reydev You know there are people who like to hide their fortune and there are those who love to be on the cover of Forbes [10:25]
Reydev But the internet offers the possibility of pseudonymity [10:25]
mircea_popescu or the delusion thereof. [10:25]
asciilifeform ^ [10:25]
fluffypony hence the pseudo :-P [10:25]
mircea_popescu lol [10:25]
Reydev yeah [10:25]
polarbeard I want to be anonymously famous [10:26]
fluffypony polarbeard: your wish has been granted! [10:26]
asciilifeform pseudopseudo! [10:26]
fluffypony you know guys, I once met polarbeard [10:26]
fluffypony he's chill af [10:26]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca8j9_hUUAAgnN9.jpg:large << the one thing the dude trying to push facebook with that doesn't mention is that the facebook-alikes in there (zynga, groupon etc) were offered earlier than facebook ; and that they were doing JUST AS GOOD at some point in their spam cycle. [10:26]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZw4hd ) [10:26]
mircea_popescu where's myspace, the first billion dollar interwebs "corporation" ? [10:26]
fluffypony ask Tom [10:26]
Reydev actually there are many "celebrities" by now only known by their internet persona [10:27]
mircea_popescu fluffypony where was that ? [10:27]
mircea_popescu Reydev really ? name one ? [10:27]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: where was what? [10:27]
* mircea_popescu lives in the sort of cave where even kardashian is more of a starlet than a celebrity. [10:27]
mircea_popescu fluffypony met polarbeard [10:27]
Reydev all pro game guys [10:27]
fluffypony oh [10:27]
fluffypony I was joking - he wanted to be famous, so I was name-dropping [10:27]
Reydev like starcraft celebs [10:27]
mircea_popescu Reydev you mean like http://trilema.com/2012/cel-mai-bun-paladin-din-the-world/ ? [10:28]
Reydev all youtube celebs [10:28]
assbot Cel mai bun paladin din the world. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr7ENi ) [10:28]
Reydev ahahah [10:28]
mircea_popescu fluffypony wait wut [10:29]
Reydev there was something highly entertaining about the guy, in all its cringeyness [10:29]
mircea_popescu indeed! [10:29]
mircea_popescu you know this one ? [10:29]
* mircea_popescu thought this the peak of obscurity. [10:29]
Reydev i played wow for a while, dont ban me plz [10:29]
mircea_popescu notably, i have NEVER seen a woman so deeply humiliated as that chick obviously is [10:29]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: he said he wanted to be famous, so I was namedropping his name like he's famous :) [10:29]
Reydev he was kind of a celeb there [10:29]
mircea_popescu (iirc she ended up a candidate for some derpy party somewhere in their nordic system there. denmark perhaps) [10:30]
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mircea_popescu the things young women will put up with... [10:30]
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mircea_popescu Reydev i was actually in the wow closed beta. it... sucked. [10:31]
polarbeard fluffypony: but by naming me you broke my dream of being anonymously famous [10:31]
punkman Athene is not that obscure [10:31]
fluffypony polarbeard: point [10:31]
fluffypony polarbeard: I once met [10:31]
mircea_popescu polarbeard wait your name is Polar Beard irl [10:31]
polarbeard yay, now I'm feeling it [10:32]
Reydev i guess there will be Athenes enough in the BTC space that love to show off their holdings [10:32]
Reydev crypto space* [10:32]
mircea_popescu i guess that can happen... i once knew a chick Dusty Diamond. she was a... ahem. cough. coder. [10:32]
mircea_popescu Reydev you have nfi lmao. look up into uppity tortilla. [10:32]
polarbeard mircea_popescu: Polar B. Eard [10:32]
asciilifeform l0lwut [10:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform coder. you know, from latin coda, tail. [10:33]
asciilifeform ahahaha [10:33]
PeterL I went to school with Crystal Champagne [10:33]
BingoBoingo * mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow" << Tis of immense value as an instrument of trolling [10:33]
mircea_popescu i bow to your superior knowledges bb. [10:34]
mircea_popescu PeterL was her mom hot ? [10:34]
mircea_popescu punkman what's he up to these days ? can't be poker, can it. [10:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107700 @ 0.00056748 = 61.1176 BTC [+] {4} [10:34]
PeterL dunno, never met her mom, but she was kinda skanky [10:34]
asciilifeform instrument of trolling >> a trawl? [10:34]
mircea_popescu lol! [10:34]
punkman mircea_popescu: social media, like everyone else [10:36]
mircea_popescu oh [10:36]
mircea_popescu i guess i missed that boat, what with digg and myspace banning me and all. [10:36]
punkman tldr of the article you linked? [10:37]
* asciilifeform many years ago tried arsebook : mega-snore. [10:38]
polarbeard asciilifeform: building shiva, instructions unclear, ended up here: http://dpaste.com/0RM4BAK.txt [10:41]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr9eyw ) [10:41]
mircea_popescu punkman mine ? just poking fun at the guy, nothing really. linked for the vids. [10:41]
asciilifeform polarbeard: betcha you didn't apply part1 patch ! [10:41]
mircea_popescu the 1st symptom of a well written guide : author knows exactly what the user did wrong. [10:42]
polarbeard I certainly shaked the tree a bit, will recheck [10:42]
asciilifeform this is a legit point, 2 is not vtronically linked to 1 [10:42]
mircea_popescu aha. [10:42]
mircea_popescu and speaking of vtronically linked, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2zluxKH5U1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [10:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20PWhqy ) [10:43]
asciilifeform i actually bashed my head over this [10:43]
Reydev tortilla refers to the pietila guy? [10:43]
mircea_popescu Reydev yeah, hanbot coinage. [10:43]
BingoBoingo instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz. [10:44]
mircea_popescu i thought it caught comedy goldfish [10:44]
BingoBoingo I catches that as well as commedy redfish and bluefish. [10:44]
mircea_popescu and comedi pizdish [10:44]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i left shiva1 an island to emphasize that it is a heathen and largely unverified turd (tinyscheme) [10:47]
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mircea_popescu this is one thing. the other is that you could have said in the docs. [10:47]
mircea_popescu !up Reydev [10:47]
-assbot- You voiced Reydev for 30 minutes. [10:47]
* assbot gives voice to Reydev [10:47]
mircea_popescu how about you register a pgp sig with assbot. [10:47]
asciilifeform the tinyscheme genesis is not doc enough?? [10:48]
polarbeard asciilifeform: oh, so I should actually finish having b/tinyscheme *and* b/bitcoin/src/shiva ? [10:48]
BingoBoingo I guess it's time to mount some of the comedy goldfish so captured on the wall https://archive.is/qI4mt [10:48]
assbot Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrabHb ) [10:48]
asciilifeform polarbeard: no! [10:48]
asciilifeform just apply shiva part1. [10:48]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i always thought someone should just take all the bs "hey guise is bitcoin legit ?" noob questions, take them to craigslist, replace bitcoin with name of city and go all concerned-like [10:49]
polarbeard confused, why last patches press b/tinyscheme ? [10:49]
mircea_popescu "hey guise, is seattle legit ? my girlfriend got a job here but i dunno... i looked on the itnernet and it seems like a real town and whatnot, but how can i be sure ?" [10:49]
asciilifeform you pressed tinyscheme genesis didntcha. [10:49]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: There might be some merit to that. [10:49]
asciilifeform Don't!! [10:49]
polarbeard oh, okay, that's a separate tinyscheme tree ? to freeze & possibly work on it? [10:50]
asciilifeform aha. [10:51]
polarbeard I see the light. [10:51]
asciilifeform It was turned into shiva part1 [10:51]
asciilifeform by altering paths [10:51]
asciilifeform press ~that~. [10:51]
mircea_popescu you realise none of this is obvious, do you ? [10:51]
asciilifeform i have given up trying to telepath out what is and isn't obvious to folks [10:53]
mircea_popescu don't. [10:53]
* asciilifeform bbl [10:53]
polarbeard if I can drop an idea, perhaps tagging the ml submission subjects would help... [10:53]
Reydev Ill register a sig later, dont have much useful to add anymore. Im building the richlist anyway, even if its just an exercise in the end :) and ill be lurking some [10:55]
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mircea_popescu !up eamonnw [11:17]
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polarbeard works like a charm, here is a patch for removing some unused functions if somebody is interested: https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/patches/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/sigs/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig [11:17]
assbot trb/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch at master · polarbeard/trb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PreiTM ) [11:17]
assbot trb/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig at master · polarbeard/trb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrehPK ) [11:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112600 @ 0.00056791 = 63.9467 BTC [+] {3} [11:18]
punkman http://normalbob.com/amazingstrangers/ [11:19]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [11:19]
assbot Amazing Strangers | normalbob.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1PresKO ) [11:19]
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mircea_popescu !up wpalczynski [11:21]
-assbot- You voiced wpalczynski for 30 minutes. [11:21]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dude that thing hit reddit exactly where it hurts lol [11:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97317 @ 0.00056203 = 54.6951 BTC [-] {3} [11:24]
mircea_popescu who knew that insane as they might be, divorced from any sort of reality as they may find themselves, nevertheless getting lawyers to not be upset with them is THE ONE TRUE THING they care about. [11:24]
mircea_popescu weird. [11:24]
punkman heh [11:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162300 @ 0.0005681 = 92.2026 BTC [+] {5} [11:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.0005688 = 3.2194 BTC [+] {2} [11:39]
jurov danielpbarron: that "nobody cares" quip was definitely not about coinbr. there inability to provide solid service still after 3 years drives me mad [11:45]
jurov it's not about speed, but rather structural, mpex api makes sharing an account in this way hard [11:45]
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jurov trading derivatives instead would work much better, but that needs to redo whole thing completely [11:47]
jurov was talking about this with wywialm, told him ok let's do it but the other dudes should go into wot too [11:48]
jurov that has not happeped yet [11:48]
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jurov ;;seen wywialm [11:49]
gribble wywialm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 35 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: thanks, BingoBoingo [11:49]
mircea_popescu i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch [11:50]
mircea_popescu yet for a class (or perhaps a reunion of classes, dunno yet) of folk it seems the height of impossibility. [11:51]
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mircea_popescu but in clubbing news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/745897f7578528e02db73c599f7712ae/tumblr_nuu7hmQ4wb1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [11:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181600 @ 0.00055683 = 101.1203 BTC [-] {4} [12:16]
davout mircea_popescu: "i have no time for this gpg business" [12:33]
davout "i'll have to look into it sometime" [12:33]
davout MIKE ECHO HOTEL [12:34]
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mircea_popescu heh [12:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78801 @ 0.0005697 = 44.8929 BTC [+] {4} [13:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00057059 = 22.7665 BTC [+] [13:22]
asciilifeform http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/11/bluetooth-internet-of-things-support << no toiletron left behind!1111 [13:27]
assbot You'll soon track Bluetooth devices directly over the internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbKYOn ) [13:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46271 @ 0.00057119 = 26.4295 BTC [+] {2} [13:28]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403591 << what's so hard for peasant learning to sign his name ? hard in more than one way ! [13:39]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 14:46:24; mircea_popescu: i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch [13:39]
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asciilifeform (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...) [13:39]
PeterL signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone [13:40]
asciilifeform l0l [13:41]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403533 << maybe just me, but i normally think of a ww2 mine trawl, the kind towed by a tank [13:42]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 13:39:30; BingoBoingo: instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz. [13:42]
BingoBoingo That might just be you. The fishboat came first11!!!111eleventy [13:42]
asciilifeform https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/4a/b4/c1/4ab4c1f07bb75d9491a47fcd02dc0288.jpg << e.g., this [13:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbN4xE ) [13:43]
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asciilifeform interestingly, these were an 'ultimate' weapon, in the sense that nobody, afaik, found a pill against them (at least during ww2) [13:44]
davout PeterL: actually it can be! [13:48]
PeterL I was thinking of typing gpg commands like in a terminal, I guess it can be as easy as clicking a button if you set things up [13:49]
asciilifeform let's also point and grunt reactor controls. [13:50]
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PeterL well, guy off the street does not get access to reactor controls [13:50]
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punkman PeterL: signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone << it's not really the interface, more that phones suck [13:57]
punkman you could probably use cardano on your phone [13:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 83733 @ 0.00042023 = 35.1871 BTC [+] [13:58]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403585 << ok, my main concern is that I have quite a bit of shares that I had not intention of selling any time soon, and I'd imagine if you shut down you'd just liquidate it all at whatever the current bids are [13:58]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 14:41:19; jurov: it's not about speed, but rather structural, mpex api makes sharing an account in this way hard [13:58]
jurov no, if I decide to, it will not be shut down at a moment's notice, the situation is NOT so dire [14:00]
danielpbarron ok thank you for the clarification [14:01]
danielpbarron and thank you for running the service :D [14:01]
* asciilifeform is not a user of jurov's service, but always found it interesting that it has no (afaik) competition. must be quite good. [14:02]
BingoBoingo I recommend it. Works well. [14:04]
* asciilifeform believes [14:04]
* asciilifeform would use it, if he had with what ! [14:04]
BingoBoingo Well, you got qntra shares [14:06]
asciilifeform and why would i want them to slowly melt away ? [14:06]
jurov H0D1!!! [14:07]
asciilifeform thing is that you can't 'hodl' on coinbr, it has parking fee [14:07]
asciilifeform which is fair, but it means that i have no use for it [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00056064 = 5.3261 BTC [-] [14:07]
PeterL there is a high investment required for competition, needs a seat on MPEx, not sure if the small number of potential users would justify that [14:08]
asciilifeform seat on mpex costs about what an old bulldozer costs [14:08]
mircea_popescu (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...) << you speak wise. [14:08]
asciilifeform how many bulldozer rentails in your neighbourhood ! [14:09]
asciilifeform *rentals [14:09]
BingoBoingo how many bulldozer rentails in your neighbourhood ! << 3 [14:09]
PeterL but would you earn more in broker fees than buldozer wages? [14:09]
mircea_popescu actually back in ro you could rent any machinery. they all have "call here to rent this item" on them [14:09]
BingoBoingo There are three places in town I could rent a bulldozer [14:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: same anywhere, i think [14:09]
asciilifeform certainly even here in mordoristan [14:09]
mircea_popescu so then... there's a ton of buldozer rentals in your neighbourhood ? [14:10]
asciilifeform at least 4 within 10 minutes driving [14:10]
mircea_popescu punkman> you could probably use cardano on your phone << you could prolly rootkit smartphone into a half-decent autosigner device. [14:10]
asciilifeform dozers, excavators, trucks [14:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: rng is tricky bit on those [14:11]
mircea_popescu no, import it. [14:11]
PeterL so owning buldozer yields $x from rentals, does opening broker service yield $x from potential clients? I don't think the market is strong enough for that yet, but I could be wrong [14:12]
danielpbarron asciilifeform> thing is that you can't 'hodl' on coinbr, it has parking fee << so for i've more than managed to beat the parking fee [14:13]
PeterL me too [14:13]
PeterL most months [14:13]
mircea_popescu there must be a way to solve this - like if user agrees never to trade for the following year, deposit shares and instead of charge maybe even pay him something. [14:13]
mircea_popescu irl brokers lend out the shares to pay for this. [14:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140230 @ 0.00055861 = 78.3339 BTC [-] {3} [14:13]
PeterL but just 'hodl'ing, it is hard to beat parking fee [14:13]
danielpbarron yeah most of my gains were betting on MPEx beating the previous hard fork scare that drove the price of MPOE into the teens [14:14]
mircea_popescu heh. [14:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78450 @ 0.00055654 = 43.6606 BTC [-] {2} [14:15]
mircea_popescu that was so ridoinculous [14:16]
danielpbarron it was very awesome. 10/10. would play again [14:16]
mircea_popescu LOL [14:18]
mircea_popescu the nature of virginity. back then people actually thought a mp-gavin dispute could possibly be resolved any other way. [14:19]
mircea_popescu if further evidence that social media rots the brain could be needed... [14:19]
BingoBoingo From the mines: "The democratic party is aborting much of its future voterbase" [14:20]
danielpbarron i wasn't even nervous. I figured if MPEx wasn't going to win, I didn't want any part of bitcoin [14:21]
* asciilifeform wonders how many rounds of '101' gavin's handlers consider him good for, until he goes to pasture [14:24]
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danielpbarron !up BCB [14:27]
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BCB Thank you danielpbarron [14:27]
danielpbarron !rated bcb [14:27]
assbot You rated user bcb on 05-May-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: He sold me 1 bitcoin via paypal back when it was under 100.. [14:27]
danielpbarron haven't seen you in a minute! [14:27]
BCB danielpbarron: been a while [14:27]
danielpbarron how's it going with you? [14:27]
BCB ok [14:28]
BCB I see you guys started a new Foundation [14:28]
danielpbarron yessiree, you like what you see? [14:28]
BCB I just noticed it recently. Have had much time to poke around [14:30]
asciilifeform !s from:mircea_popescu !unrate adlai [14:33]
assbot 4 results for 'from:mircea_popescu !unrate adlai' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+%21unrate+adlai [14:33]
asciilifeform l0l [14:33]
asciilifeform ftr adlai makes me very sad, it is clear that the man has the aptitude for constructive work, but somehow falls down every time [14:34]
asciilifeform and then gets into a foul fugue, where he posts cryptograms discussing having nothing to live for, etc. [14:35]
asciilifeform pretty much asciilifeform circa late '90s [14:36]
BingoBoingo How did asciilifeform early 00's fix that? [14:37]
asciilifeform didn't. [14:37]
asciilifeform just too busy for wankatronics [14:37]
asciilifeform but i think i spent more of my life adlaiing than not [14:39]
shinohai Perhaps laying off the sauce would help. [14:43]
BingoBoingo just too busy for wankatronics << AHA, there is a solution. [14:43]
asciilifeform not really 'solution' in the usual sense [14:43]
BingoBoingo Sure it is. Many actual solutions to life's problems are this at their core. [14:44]
asciilifeform what i meant to say, is that i studied the Ancient Art of Shutting The Fuck Up [14:45]
asciilifeform it doesn't make one less depressed, but does lead to reduced adlaiing. [14:45]
* asciilifeform not yet fully master of the Art [14:46]
BingoBoingo Exactly. The Big Book has a chapter called "into action" but it does not have chapter titled "Into Feeling" or "Into Thinking" [14:46]
asciilifeform in the final '9 dan' stage, one is indistinguishable from a normal person [14:46]
asciilifeform (except possibly on autopsy) [14:47]
asciilifeform from this effect, i think, comes the proverbial 'but he was so happy! why did he eat the nagant?!' thing [14:47]
asciilifeform iirc there was a spiffy mircea_popescu essay about this, long ago. [14:48]
trinque to be a simpleton... one will die either way. [14:48]
trinque better to only consider the option he has [14:48]
trinque *options [14:48]
trinque and perhaps one of those options incrementally improves his life, perhaps it doesn't [14:54]
* trinque studied the art of fundamentally not giving a shit [14:54]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/ [14:58]
assbot Austrian Minister Seeks Constitutional Protection For Cash Payments | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLTvyg ) [14:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00055617 = 70.5224 BTC [-] {4} [14:59]
mircea_popescu !rated BCB [15:05]
assbot You have not rated BCB. [15:05]
mircea_popescu the name's nevertheless familiar. where do i know you from ? [15:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> ftr adlai makes me very sad, it is clear that the man has the aptitude for constructive work, but somehow falls down every time << seems to me like he's zig-zagging broadly towards sense, but who knows these things. [15:06]
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mircea_popescu !up BCB [15:07]
-assbot- You voiced BCB for 30 minutes. [15:07]
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mircea_popescu you know you can self voice, dpb is in the lordship [15:07]
BCB mircea_popescu: we go way back [15:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> pretty much asciilifeform circa late '90s << man i was having a ball late 90s. such days! [15:08]
BCB is bitcoin still a thing [15:08]
mircea_popescu BCB yeah but be specific [15:08]
asciilifeform was there ~ever~ a time when mircea_popescu was ~not~ 'having a ball' ?? [15:09]
BCB I thought it was turning into the bankchain [15:09]
mircea_popescu last xmas was pretty miserable, for instance. [15:09]
* asciilifeform had surreal experience this morning that BingoBoingo might appreciate. was looking through cabinets at rupturefarms for $officesuply, and opened one that contained... bottles of whiskey [15:11]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/ << actually this is a fucking great idea. the right to settle commerce without interference from third parties is way more important than the right of women to not be chattel property. [15:11]
BingoBoingo the name's nevertheless familiar. where do i know you from ? << Bitcointalk [15:12]
mircea_popescu o from hanbot's files ? [15:12]
BCB lot of battles with your girl MOEpr [15:13]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Wonderful. A desk isn't a proper desk without bourbon. [15:13]
* BingoBoingo no longer has a proper desk [15:13]
mircea_popescu lol. didja win any ? [15:13]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i was told long ago that there are, so to speak, 'dry' ~and~ 'wet' offices in usa, but did not see with own eyes until recently [15:14]
asciilifeform so far my understanding is that the latter is found largely on the left side of the potomac river, the former - on the right [15:15]
asciilifeform but this is speaking strictly for the swamp, i have nfi re: the rest of the continent [15:15]
mircea_popescu http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/BCB/ << lol wouldja look at that thing. [15:15]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The only dry office is the one that hasn't been checked thoroughly enough [15:15]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: understand, this is not a covert thing, the bottles come out at meetings etc [15:16]
BingoBoingo Ah [15:16]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403766 << no, reserved for black people, teenagers and women now. actual achievement is oppressive. [21:56]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403766 << no, reserved for black people, teenagers and women now. actual achievement is oppressive. [21:57]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:32; funkenstein_: it matches my unverified simulations. can i haz noble prize? [21:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403767 <<< prev rating was a - ftr. [21:57]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:57; ben_vulpes: what'd adlai do this time? i didn't see anything notably lulzy in the logs... [21:57]
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ben_vulpes assumptions are showing [21:58]
ben_vulpes mine, that is [21:58]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that. [21:59]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:42:51; assbot: Transparent EMI/RFI/EMC shielded windows/displays and foils ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZzTI9 ) [21:59]
mircea_popescu lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ? [22:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403785 << the lulziest part there is that there's this entire subculture of tor punks. [22:02]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 18:48:33; mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox [22:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403791 << i would expect all of the sandvaginated area. [22:02]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 19:26:26; mats: I wonder how many pieces of the eu/eurozone will be part of the caliphate in a few decades [22:02]
mircea_popescu spain, france, the south of england, "italy" whatever that means, western austria, southwestern germany etc. [22:03]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403793 << arabs do not care for the cold. russia exists as a going concern principally for this reason. [22:04]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 19:28:23; BingoBoingo: Probably the nordic ones mostly. [22:04]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403797 << sorry about that. [22:04]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 20:01:25; jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex proxy 23.235.235.113 has time skew -4 hours, causing havoc [22:04]
mircea_popescu in other news, why is princessnell bombing inept douches off medium in here ? [22:05]
mircea_popescu if you're going to link whores, please a) no traps ; b) pictures not words and c) tits on display at a minimum. [22:05]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403836 << well in a world where gawker pays one stick of bubblegum per piece, it's a hard argument to make. [22:06]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 21:33:21; princessnell: i say it's worth more [22:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403847 << tmsr. not only spending on deficit, but also saving millions on other people's [mostly mental] deficits. [22:07]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 21:51:21; ben_vulpes: "If we add up the value of the hours spent on it, we’re in the tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars." << not me, not anyone here. lookee at how much we've saved by not giving any credence at all to the brain damage! [22:07]
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mircea_popescu jurov human readable time is a mess sadly. [22:08]
mircea_popescu this is of course not my fault. and fixing it is not trivial. and so on. [22:08]
mircea_popescu but... working on it. [22:08]
mircea_popescu https://i.imgur.com/3Gg3Y2q.jpg <<< i wish to donate a hundred lashes, where can i ? [22:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KfVl7w ) [22:09]
punkman what's so special about human-readable [22:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403870 << hm why does she sound like you touched a nerve ?! [22:09]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 22:10:15; princessnell: wow! :D congrats, that is amazing! i am so happy for you [22:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403885 << "we haven't learned anything from the previous beating and pledge to continue as before. because we really enjoy taking beatings." [22:11]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 22:15:37; asciilifeform: '1). Make a decision to let go of the past technical issues. We don’t care whose fault it was, who broke protocol, who harmed who’s feelings or egos, who lied or who was technically or morally wrong. The time has come to move on. We can start fresh and work together to prevent or react to any new human issues.' << ahahahah pure gold [22:11]
mircea_popescu i dunno, i suppose some do. the wall ain't going anywhere, so by all means. [22:11]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403935 << i wonder if i can do this via trilema. [22:14]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 22:57:12; jurov: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/12/setting-the-date-to-1-january-1970-will-brick-your-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch dat infrastruxture [22:14]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404011 << i thought your kid was a yearling ?! he speaks ? [22:19]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:27:46; *: pete_dushenski is very guilty of giving voice and personality to le petit monsieur. it's too fun not to! [22:19]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404020 << in fairness it was because i left the lasrt character out. [22:20]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:30:17; shinohai: ^happend to mp last night [22:20]
ben_vulpes mine just started responding to ripping paper in half [22:20]
ben_vulpes turn one thing into two, merriment ensues [22:20]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. [22:20]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really? [22:20]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's a pretty good trick! give him spaghetti too [22:21]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404040 << they hafta expire ffs. [22:21]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:37:47; jurov: dunno why is kako so paranoid. next thing, submit too fast, get banned. [22:21]
ben_vulpes hah i'll definitely try that [22:21]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404044 << no it's good. [22:22]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:39:35; kakobrekla: noone complained, yet. [22:22]
ben_vulpes i think he really enjoys the ripping noise too [22:22]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404119 << claims to be fine nickel (?) mesh in plastic film [22:22]
assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:55:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that. [22:22]
asciilifeform i'm about to buy various, test... [22:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the finer the mesh, the worse the result. [22:22]
mircea_popescu and if you're going to do fine, who the fuck does nickel. [22:23]
asciilifeform depends on freq [22:23]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404121 << yes apparently there is this whole subculture of rf 'allergy' crackpots [22:24]
assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:56:02; mircea_popescu: lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ? [22:24]
mircea_popescu i don't have the curves in my head, but i am still willing to bet nickel does not shine in any range [22:26]
asciilifeform cost. [22:26]
mircea_popescu eh gtfo, fine mesh. [22:26]
mircea_popescu 0.1g platinum is cheaper than whatever that retails for. [22:27]
asciilifeform woven in film?! [22:27]
mircea_popescu i imagine they print it. [22:27]
mircea_popescu but yes. because nothing is as ductile as gold/platinum/lead etc. [22:28]
mircea_popescu 1g of gold is what, 1 sq m by hand ? [22:28]
asciilifeform then perforate with laser... [22:29]
asciilifeform fuck mesh [22:29]
mircea_popescu aha. [22:30]
mircea_popescu actually, i would expect either indium or thalium would be what you would want on the basis of em considerations. [22:30]
asciilifeform but i wanna measure the extant crud [22:30]
mircea_popescu please do. [22:30]
asciilifeform waiwut??! [22:30]
asciilifeform thallium??! [22:30]
asciilifeform why [22:31]
mircea_popescu because immense excitation cross-section ? [22:31]
mircea_popescu esp to low energy electrons [22:31]
asciilifeform conductivity is normally what you want in a shield [22:33]
* asciilifeform bbl [22:33]
mircea_popescu i would expect, on the basis of sheer guesswork, that if you want to make fine mesh shields as opposed to a traditional, 2mm thick cage, that you would want various quantum and other side effects ratgher than straight conductivity. [22:34]
mircea_popescu because of the fucking impedance in thin fillaments and other considerations, your shit will never work as a straight conductor. [22:34]
mircea_popescu and for stuff like electron drift velocity, thallium is up there with fucking mercury. [22:35]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404057 << i didn't know you swung that way! [22:36]
assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:05:30; jurov: pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo [22:36]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D [22:36]
assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def [22:36]
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mircea_popescu in very scary fucking news that will scar you for the rest of the day, so don't look! http://45.media.tumblr.com/3df51e27518fa30b33762a529d9fdad1/tumblr_noajqyXfXP1uu92gho1_400.gif [22:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RxAcHy ) [22:39]
mod6 bath time! [22:40]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. << somehow mis-remembered this. [22:41]
assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really? [22:41]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D << lol [22:41]
assbot Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def [22:41]
mircea_popescu you know they found the actual mining skill [22:41]
mod6 really? [22:42]
mircea_popescu yea [22:42]
mircea_popescu i paid 2mn for one. [22:42]
mod6 i miss playing. i gotta get back in there one of these times. [22:42]
mircea_popescu diana has them [22:42]
mod6 cool [22:42]
mircea_popescu it's not too bad with the foxybot, can go the whole day on 10 minute's attention [22:42]
mod6 that's great actually. i should just set-it-and-forget-it. [22:43]
mircea_popescu i do a lot of that. set it to do say 30 suspect ointments, it's good for 20 hours [22:44]
punkman speaking of shields https://github.com/kristinpaget/GuardBunny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGcykuhfcQA [22:44]
assbot GitHub - kristinpaget/GuardBunny: Files for GuardBunny, an RFID shield presented at Shmoocon 2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGt ) [22:44]
assbot Be Free Little Guardbunny [ShmooCon 2016] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGv ) [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74417 @ 0.00055969 = 41.6505 BTC [-] {2} [22:44]
mod6 mircea_popescu: ya, i should just load up on tools and threads, etc. and just let it rip. [22:45]
mod6 ;;seen mike_c [22:48]
gribble mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 33 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already [22:48]
mod6 !rated mike_c [22:49]
assbot You rated user mike_c on 10-Aug-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Met IRL, runs btcalpha.com, built new WoT tool. [22:49]
* mod6 rubs eyes [22:50]
mod6 2014? [22:50]
mod6 i thought it was last year [22:50]
mod6 ooh maybe the original rating date is preseved. [22:50]
mod6 did mod6 lose a whole year [22:51]
mod6 ? [22:51]
mod6 naw, it was 2015. lucky. [22:51]
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mircea_popescu motherfucker. this box keeps shutting down bitcoin. [22:56]
mircea_popescu anyone ever saw a process get ended after you disconnect a nohup session ?! [22:57]
mircea_popescu pos doesn't have tmux either [22:57]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu is using `nohup $cmd &`, yes? [22:58]
mircea_popescu uh no & [22:58]
mircea_popescu what's & again ? [22:58]
mod6 i typically only do `&', w/o nohup [22:58]
ben_vulpes fork to bg [22:58]
asciilifeform ^ [22:58]
mircea_popescu uh isn't that spurious if explicit nohum ? [22:59]
punkman is daemon mode advised against? [22:59]
ben_vulpes nope [22:59]
mircea_popescu heh mkay [22:59]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: why does nohup not protect against terminal exiting without the fork? [22:59]
mircea_popescu "blocks" : 382218, other one's almopst there [23:00]
mircea_popescu ;;height [23:00]
gribble Error: "height" is not a valid command. [23:00]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: doesn't actually detach from tty unless you fork [23:00]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [23:00]
asciilifeform ask it, not me [23:00]
gribble Current Blocks: 398169 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:00]
mircea_popescu "errors" : "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range
CInv::GetCommand() : type=3 unknown type
bitcoin in ProcessMessage()
" << heh heh 		[23:01]
asciilifeform waitasec [23:01]
asciilifeform is this without malleus ? [23:01]
mircea_popescu this is 99996 [23:01]
ben_vulpes not answering the q lol [23:02]
asciilifeform that's a v ver [23:02]
asciilifeform not trb [23:02]
asciilifeform which ~trb~ mircea_popescu ? [23:02]
mircea_popescu what'd you expect me to say ? [23:02]
mod6 must be the one he built with build-bitcoind-V99996.sh or whatever. [23:03]
asciilifeform i mean, you pressed it, no ? [23:03]
mircea_popescu ^ [23:03]
ben_vulpes 0 or 1 [23:03]
ben_vulpes aha whatever fires v must present a head to press [23:03]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu is running bitcoinds with mystery patchlists! [23:03]
mircea_popescu if you wish i can provide a file hash [23:04]
ben_vulpes heresy [23:04]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no, i control the wot. [23:04]
ben_vulpes tis your skin not mine [23:04]
mod6 which btw, we need to update that build script. [23:04]
mircea_popescu that's all i wish to do. [23:04]
mircea_popescu and it WILL be your skin if this process gets me in trouble. [23:04]
mircea_popescu you've been warned, not only throughout, but at the outset. THIS is what it is all for. [23:04]
ben_vulpes and i warn you back to not run bitcoinds pressed of v whose heads you do not know! [23:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu is using the knobs as they were intended to be used. [23:05]
mircea_popescu fully expect - ratings if your presence in my .wot dir causes my bitcoin to die. [23:05]
asciilifeform but, possibly embarrassingly, i don't presently know if mod6's v actually climbs the latest branches of all present keys [23:05]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: also remember that there are ~two~ knobs, meant to be used in unison - wot and patches. [23:06]
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asciilifeform as presently extant, you can't pile on the latter unthinkingly and drive solely using former. [23:06]
mircea_popescu jus' making a point. [23:06]
asciilifeform and i wanted to make another, re: how driving solely with wot at present time is rather like steering a bus using solely the brake pedal. [23:07]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: "build-bitcoind-v99996.sh" is the sole knob mircea_popescu cares to use [23:07]
asciilifeform and here i find that i don't even have a copy of this. [23:07]
mircea_popescu heh. [23:08]
asciilifeform so i cannot say whether he pressed with malleus. [23:08]
ben_vulpes nor i [23:08]
mircea_popescu if not for plurality... we'd be driving buses with no brake pedals whatsoever [23:08]
mircea_popescu next stop, power range. [23:08]
mircea_popescu spew out a file hash i'll give you mine. [23:08]
mod6 when he built it, it ~should~ have included your original malleus patch, see: ./v.pl p verbose rotor/TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch [23:08]
mod6 however, that's been out of date since I re-ground those recent patches. [23:08]
mod6 but again, shouldn't effect Mr. P. since he did all of this before the regrind. [23:08]
mircea_popescu mod6 seeing how the node is almost caught up i'd say it's 3 weeks old [23:09]
ben_vulpes such a very stateful ritual, this [23:09]
mod6 ok [23:09]
ben_vulpes my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it [23:10]
asciilifeform ^ [23:10]
mircea_popescu trust people, not code. [23:11]
mircea_popescu i couldn't care less what goes into it. [23:11]
ben_vulpes mod6's scripts are code! [23:11]
mod6 mircea_popescu: what's your sha512 of main.cpp? [23:11]
ben_vulpes yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them! [23:11]
mircea_popescu a happy man is one who never went into the sausage factory. [23:11]
punkman people will submit patches that include crossbone banner [23:11]
asciilifeform ^ [23:11]
mircea_popescu mod6 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58 main.cpp [23:11]
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mircea_popescu and ftr i misspelled it mod.cpp first [23:12]
mod6 heheh [23:12]
mircea_popescu punkman and they won't make it in a foundation release. [23:12]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: file hash alone does not specify which patch to which you pressed. [23:12]
mircea_popescu tough! [23:13]
mod6 huh. for some reason, it didn apply that patch [23:13]
mircea_popescu well now! isn't that interesting [23:13]
mod6 ben_vulpes: yeah, pretty close [23:13]
mod6 diff -uNr a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp [23:13]
mod6 --- a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58 [23:13]
mod6 +++ b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 02ccc72e42939509fc180861db7ffec50563a84869f35671fcf720090f9782674edcc89c4174175691566fac7277f1ebe0f50253d1e4a995eb960f5b43cce2a3 [23:13]
ben_vulpes i send only warnings. [23:13]
mircea_popescu 578324747b453bb61a2e1d626508f0b344704980605c79fc994b51aa86c5f437b937ab89d994dcccca4e45877b1f2c763c3e06b8c613eeae263409ee3178a42a trinque.sh [23:13]
mircea_popescu turns out it was built from trinque sh [23:14]
mod6 ah, where can I find the source for that? [23:14]
asciilifeform l0l! [23:14]
ben_vulpes hahaha [23:14]
ben_vulpes and what head praytell does that press [23:14]
mircea_popescu i should know what i run ??? [23:14]
mod6 :D [23:14]
mircea_popescu ROTOR_HASH=e232c07238feb16ce055211fba68ed283c47753a8716681ac47c869c21936f48768f [23:14]
trinque uh, what's trinque.sh [23:15]
trinque lol [23:15]
trinque !s trinque.sh [23:15]
assbot 0 results for 'trinque.sh' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trinque.sh [23:15]
mircea_popescu curl -s http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20151129.tar.gz -o V-20151129.tar.gz [23:15]
assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Hyqh ) [23:15]
mircea_popescu here we go. [23:15]
ben_vulpes one of the downsides of the kalash is its wide cone of bullet distribution [23:15]
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punkman http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science not bad [23:16]
assbot Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge - ScienceAlert ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLLEOg ) [23:16]
* ben_vulpes off to shabbos and very shortly [23:16]
mircea_popescu isn't this what that kid killed himself for ? [23:16]
mircea_popescu mod6 should i dpaste this script ? [23:16]
mod6 yeah please. [23:17]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it was [23:17]
ben_vulpes punkman: and why is she even hosting them herself? [23:17]
punkman because badass russian chick? dunno [23:17]
* ben_vulpes off [23:17]
punkman "when you search for a paper, Sci-Hub tries to immediately download it from fellow pirate database LibGen. If that doesn't work, Sci-Hub is able to bypass journal paywalls thanks to a range of access keys that have been donated by anonymous academics" [23:17]
asciilifeform elsevier has been musting die for a very long time. [23:17]
ben_vulpes musting die lol [23:18]
ben_vulpes anyways enjoy archaeologying mircea_popescu's build process y'all [23:18]
mod6 <+ben_vulpes> yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them! << hey now! [23:18]
ben_vulpes what what [23:18]
mod6 haha. [23:19]
mod6 they could be better, sorry. [23:19]
ben_vulpes they accomplish their purpose! last time i read through them they even checked hashes and performed all sorts of niceties. [23:20]
mircea_popescu stop hating ben_vulpes [23:20]
ben_vulpes but the road to automated reactor controls is paved with perl scripts, if you'll forgive a language jab mod6 [23:20]
mod6 awe, poor perl. has no friends. [23:20]
mircea_popescu just users. [23:21]
ben_vulpes LIKE Y'R ORDINARY STREET HOOOO-ER [23:21]
* ben_vulpes stops hating, off to drink and be loud with family [23:21]
asciilifeform http://blog.notdot.net/2012/10/Build-your-own-FPGA << 'computronium fabric by the metre' [23:22]
assbot Build your own FPGA - Nick's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoJXbt ) [23:22]
asciilifeform a few hectares of this, and you have (slow...) fpga... [23:22]
mod6 <+ben_vulpes> my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it << im not sure how to reconsile this. either you don't know what you're doing and you use a fully automated build script, or you do, and you build by hand. [23:23]
mod6 its a choose your own adventure really. [23:23]
mod6 basically, either you accept the preposed in toto, or you do not and piece-meal it together by which people you trust and do not, and which patches you want or do not. [23:24]
mod6 i think this is how it is, and should be. [23:25]
kakobrekla fully automated build script < code as spec [23:26]
mircea_popescu mod6 http://dpaste.com/3NRHYG4 [23:27]
assbot dpaste: 3NRHYG4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoKxpC ) [23:27]
* mod6 looks [23:27]
mod6 ah yes: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch [23:28]
asciilifeform yeah this is pre-malleus. [23:28]
asciilifeform settled. [23:28]
mircea_popescu myeah. [23:28]
mod6 ^ [23:28]
mircea_popescu it's really 99997 [23:28]
asciilifeform i have nfi, maybe mircea_popescu wanted this. [23:28]
mircea_popescu older node. [23:28]
mircea_popescu AT THE TIME is what we had. [23:28]
mod6 ah, ok.. but don't run the 99996 yet -- the script needs a 1 line update iirc. [23:29]
mircea_popescu heh. check him out. [23:29]
mod6 danielpbarron, got plans this weekend? [23:29]
mod6 :D [23:29]
mircea_popescu anyway, this lets us know 99997 version syncs. [23:29]
mircea_popescu it's within hours of catching up. [23:29]
mod6 true Mr. P. [23:29]
mod6 thanks [23:29]
mircea_popescu anyway. there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with using a release. [23:30]
mircea_popescu the responsibility rests ENTIRELY with the coders. [23:30]
mod6 i agree. [23:30]
mircea_popescu there's no squirming out from under this rock, like there's no squirming out from under any other rock. [23:30]
mircea_popescu all the rocks are, deliberately, pointedly and with no recourse placed on your ballsacks. [23:30]
mircea_popescu this is not an accident. and this will never change. [23:30]
mircea_popescu read the fucking code, don't write it. [23:31]
mircea_popescu rebase until your finger bleed. i don't give a shit how hard it is, or how you think there's more productive uses of your time. [23:31]
mircea_popescu and etfc. [23:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu can go on about how disgusting a cow is, but at the end of the day his icecream still comes out of one... [23:32]
asciilifeform or does it. [23:32]
mircea_popescu the entire fucking exercise is precisely and strictly ABOUT taking all the sexy out of programming. ALL OF IT. forevert. [23:32]
asciilifeform now this, yes. [23:32]
punkman apparently a lot of implementations have "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range" errors [23:32]
asciilifeform it is why v. [23:32]
asciilifeform punkman: locale [23:32]
mircea_popescu punkman yeah it's when unexpected bs comes from peer. [23:32]
asciilifeform or hm [23:32]
asciilifeform ah yes. [23:32]
punkman https://bitbucket.org/JordanLeePeershares/nubit/pull-requests/240/fix-for-exception-st12out_of_range/diff [23:34]
assbot JordanLeePeershares / NuBit [23:34]
mircea_popescu anyway. it's not unexpected or alarming. [23:34]
mircea_popescu and to round up : the other one, testing a (slightly older) 99996 keeps dying like a little bitch, so it's behind [23:35]
mircea_popescu schedule. [23:35]
asciilifeform is that the one where mircea_popescu nohup'd without & ? [23:36]
mircea_popescu i nohup'd without & on all systems [23:36]
mircea_popescu the others don't mind. [23:36]
asciilifeform 'cause they never get sighup ?! [23:36]
mircea_popescu they do. [23:36]
mircea_popescu do not expect me to know how unix runs. the authors gave up. [23:37]
mircea_popescu and i sure as fuck ain't doing basic science for the sake of science on it. [23:37]
mircea_popescu (incidentally, THAT machine igot a sighup 10 minutes ago, and bitcoind is still running on it. so... wtf.) [23:38]
danielpbarron mod6> danielpbarron, got plans this weekend? << Eulora auction yo! Other than that, I don't really have "weekends" as I don't have a 9 to 5 kinda schedule [23:40]
mod6 ah, alright. [23:40]
danielpbarron what is it you want me to test? [23:41]
mircea_popescu lol i'm so curious what that stuff will go for. [23:41]
mod6 well, we need to make a 1 line change to the 99996 build script, and then update the wiki. BUT on the other hand we're gonna need 99995 soon anyway, as soon as some people beat up on my latest patch for V. [23:42]
danielpbarron i have plenty of stuff to do so hopefully i won't get too carried away on the bidding [23:42]
mod6 Cause then I'm gonna release V v99995, which will require another script update. [23:42]
mod6 i guess I should make the script change and get it deedbotted. [23:43]
mod6 then move on and there will just be a new version soon. [23:43]
mod6 sorry :( [23:43]
* asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day [23:44]
asciilifeform i tried this on day 1, but never figured out how to get idiot gnumake to recurse [23:44]
punkman there was polarbeard's thing [23:44]
asciilifeform not speaking of that horror [23:45]
asciilifeform but of the builder [23:45]
mod6 did you look at trinques makefiles? [23:45]
asciilifeform not iirc [23:45]
mod6 i was working on those lastnight, getting some stuff updated. [23:45]
asciilifeform did they sanely avoid building anything that was already built ? [23:45]
asciilifeform because that's why makefile [23:45]
mod6 i just haven't quite figured out how im gonna fit it all together since they need to be Vified as well. at lesat, I think they do... [23:46]
mod6 asciilifeform: umm. not sure. [23:46]
mod6 it basically breaks up my build script into makefiles. its worth your time to take a look i think. [23:46]
asciilifeform link? [23:47]
mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000190.html [23:47]
assbot [BTC-dev] Experimental makefiles for bitcoind ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0cMtv ) [23:47]
asciilifeform this is no good. [23:48]
mod6 getting the makefiles squared away, is the last remaining task (other than regression testing) that stands in the way of v054 [23:48]
mod6 no good? [23:48]
mod6 how can it be better? [23:49]
asciilifeform 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER [23:49]
asciilifeform srsly [23:49]
asciilifeform wtf [23:49]
asciilifeform also mixing v press and makefile build is imho The Wrong Thing. [23:49]
mod6 ah, ok. well, we're planning on working through these things. any other things? [23:49]
asciilifeform pressing and building are philosophically distinct acts. [23:49]
asciilifeform or how about where it curl's from oracle.com ? [23:50]
asciilifeform or where it has 5 makefiles (why ?) [23:50]
mod6 yeah, well, that is one of the things. we need to figure out where to pull the stuff from -- and again if locally, then we need to totally alter buildroot. [23:50]
asciilifeform i remember now that i saw this before, and mercifully forgot. [23:50]
mod6 which everyone has said, needs to happen. [23:50]
mod6 ok so you're not sold on these 'eh. [23:51]
mod6 alright, well, we'll have to come up with something. [23:52]
asciilifeform aha. [23:53]
trinque given you proposed recursive makefiles, and are now bitching that there are many makefiles, what is your new proposal? [23:54]
mod6 im starting to think that maybe we dont worry about that for this release. [23:54]
mod6 instead we just have a "release" version of the build script like everyone has been using and then push the "better build aparatus" into the post release development push. [23:55]
asciilifeform trinque: originally i wanted recursive so i could dive into, e.g., boost, openssl, and have a single makefile for the whole orchestra [23:55]
asciilifeform (it would invoke the heathen ones in the deps and intelligently proceed, or not, given success/failure) [23:55]
trinque as for make clean, cd build; make clean [23:55]
asciilifeform clean should never erase ~permanent~ components [23:56]
trinque we are both aware of what a trivial change that is. [23:57]
asciilifeform at any rate, mod6 imho should not wait for this [23:57]
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mod6 im trying to avoid getting hit over the head with "but it uses curl!" -- but maybe i like the beatings? [23:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu likes, iirc, building on same box as his thing ~runs~ on, that is, a net-connected one [23:59]
asciilifeform i - don't [23:59]
asciilifeform and if a script insists on curling, i won't use it. [23:59]
trinque so you put the deps in the proper place, and nothing is downloaded [23:59]
asciilifeform so it needs a fallback where the deps are not curled if already found [23:59]
asciilifeform aha ok [23:59]
asciilifeform then works. [23:59]
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