Forum logs for 12 Feb 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

truffles	im a friendly person	[00:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.759 = 7.59 BTC [+]	[00:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.76 = 6.08 BTC [+]	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[00:06]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00556183 / 0.00606203 / 0.0064 (49421 shares, 299.59 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00571766 / 0.00739498 (4354487 shares, 24,897.50 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00556178 / 0.0075 (8437874 shares, 46,929.61 BTC)	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	;;calc (0.76 - 0.00606203 * 100 * 95/100) * 18	[00:07]
gribble	3.3139287	[00:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [+]	[00:08]
truffles	mp i am friendly!	[00:09]
truffles	there are less ppl in here so obv i type here	[00:09]
truffles	betting like half the ppl read the comments	[00:10]
midnightmagic	that's.. kind of creepy.	[00:12]
midnightmagic	"13:56 < truffles> def gonna stalk that guy damit"	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	so you're friendly, good for you. what of it ?	[00:12]
truffles	u laughed meaning u didnt believe me	[00:13]
truffles	i called it very interested midnightmagic	[00:13]
truffles	-ed	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	most stuff happening in this channel is not related to you.	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	i laughed at the price insanity.	[00:13]
truffles	ok	[00:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11903 @ 0.00062683 = 7.4612 BTC [-]	[00:13]
truffles	midnightmagic, dont u get the feeling bitcoiners are in a cult	[00:19]
*	truffles imagines the backlash if said in #bitcoin	[00:20]
midnightmagic	truffles: I get the feeling people looking in think it's a cult because the idea is strong enough to change minds. I also think people think all the psychopaths sniffing around the edges trying to fleece victims aren't doing us any favours, nor idiotic sites like silk road.	[00:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062944 = 7.1127 BTC [+]	[00:22]
truffles	i hear all the talk about sticking it to the system but can it	[00:22]
truffles	what about all the ppl without computers	[00:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062944 = 5.004 BTC [+]	[00:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00063265 = 3.353 BTC [+]	[00:24]
kakobreklaa	they got mobiles.	[00:24]
truffles	all the rich ppl can buy fast pcs and get most of the rewards	[00:25]
kakobreklaa	the what	[00:26]
truffles	btc	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	ok this is enough of that.	[00:26]
truffles!@	added to ignore list.	[00:26]
kakobreklaa	id guess you are on his ignore list by now.	[00:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00063521 = 1.9056 BTC [+]	[00:31]
kakobreklaa	i think its cute.	[00:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00062683 = 6.2996 BTC [-]	[00:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19568 @ 0.00062675 = 12.2642 BTC [-]	[00:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1032 @ 0.00062656 = 0.6466 BTC [-]	[00:35]
pigeons	truffles: this is old, we dont want to hear it	[00:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8673 @ 0.00062656 = 5.4342 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00062628 = 5.0484 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0626 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10 @ 0.00062628 = 0.0063 BTC [-]	[00:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1226 @ 0.00062608 = 0.7676 BTC [-]	[00:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00063136 = 1.7047 BTC [+]	[00:45]
jurov	lol that were my lil testing orders	[00:49]
jurov	at least no need to remove them now	[00:49]
jurov	truffles, how much do you want to pay for some juicy bit of history?	[00:50]
jurov	i'm sure i can dig something	[00:50]
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jurov	payment accepted. so i present you this snippet featuring mircea_popescu: http://bash.org/?953990	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	Quote #953990 is pending moderation. ?	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	shenanigans, i call them.	[00:55]
jurov	he got equivalent value for air btcs.	[00:56]
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jurov	but once it will get unmoderated, it's really #bitcoin-assets quote, i've added myself	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	http://mywabashvalley.com/fulltext?nxd_id=292862	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	the news from indiana.	[01:00]
Bugpowder_	did u see the coffee enema addicts from florida?	[01:02]
Bugpowder_	;;ticker	[01:02]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.48786, Best ask: 24.52214, Bid-ask spread: 0.03428, Last trade: 24.43271, 24 hour volume: 29403.49796069, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.54000, 24 hour vwap: 24.09918	[01:02]
jurov	lol http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/02/11/elon-musk-calls-nytimes-review-of-the-tesla-model-s-fake-citing-vehicle-log-data-as-proof/	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder_ yah	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	jurov omg they shoud be in bitcoin	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	delishious drama	[01:03]
jurov	yeah, maybe the reporter was btc miner and drained the battery :DD	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	HASHING TESLA!	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	giving pool hopping a whole new mining.	[01:04]
Bugpowder_	lol	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	inb4 it turns out the tesla logging stuff had a bug in it	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	wait	[01:11]
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jurov	wait what?	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	nm lol	[01:23]
jurov	http://baselinescenario.com/2013/02/09/the-importance-of-excel/	[01:27]
jurov	my brother does even industry energy calculations in excel	[01:28]
jurov	recently asked me about help importing 500k data points from some measurements	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	why excel	[01:29]
jurov	cause excel. whole article/discussion is about that.	[01:29]
jurov	after a while i gave up and did it for him in perl	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	“After subtracting the old rate from the new rate, the spreadsheet divided by their sum instead of their average, as the modeler had intended. This error likely had the effect of muting volatility by a factor of two and of lowering the VaR . . .”	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	juicy.	[01:30]
kakobreklaa	;;bc,convert eur	[01:30]
gribble	1 BTC = 24.61000 U.S. dollars = 18.3793876 Euros	[01:30]
jurov	;;ticker	[01:30]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.56393, Best ask: 24.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04607, Last trade: 24.61000, 24 hour volume: 30001.60733989, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.61000, 24 hour vwap: 24.11142	[01:30]
jurov	nice	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	Microsoft Excel is one of the greatest, most powerful, most important software applications of all time.**	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck.	[01:31]
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mircea_popescu	who writes this shit.	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	dude. gcc is one of the greatest, more powerful, most important software "applications", w/e that means, of all time.	[01:31]
jurov	sadly it's the opinion of most everybody, really	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	vi. emacs. gnupg.	[01:31]
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mircea_popescu	fuck excell. what's it even for ?!	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	vaguely related, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/	[01:32]
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mircea_popescu	incidentally, "Wall Street doesn't have a great recent history with outside reviews either. JPMorgan and other banks recently shut down external reviews of their foreclosure practices"	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	it's not just mpex!	[01:36]
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pigeons	excel is a program to read microsoft's proprietary binary version of csv files	[01:53]
pigeons	oh yeah the newer ones are allegedly xml	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085-we-dont-use-excel/	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	all the juicy details of jpmorgan's embarassment included.	[02:10]
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mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[02:16]
Bugpowder_	come back assbot	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	http://mpex.co/faq_pe.html	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	check this shit out, mpex faq in farsi	[02:21]
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Bugpowder_	u should get it in arabi	[02:24]
Bugpowder_	c	[02:24]
Bugpowder_	This site feels really professional now. I think I can invest now.	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	i will get it in arabic	[02:26]
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mod6	the farsi looks awesome	[02:29]
mod6	not that i know what it says, lol. but it /looks/ awesome	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	it does	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	both chinese and persian are actually very aesthetically pleasing notations	[02:30]
pizzaman1337	I hate how that language is aligned to the right side	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	well it;s one of thiose	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	speakingof which, the one i really have to get is hebrew	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	AND idish	[02:31]
pigeons	how do you say "idiot" in farsi?	[02:32]
jcpham		[02:32]
mircea_popescu	he coped out, said "stupids"	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	مردم احمق	[02:33]
mod6	haha	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	احمق being stoopid	[02:33]
pigeons	hey, my tatoo artist told me that meant "brave warrior"	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	seems accurate.	[02:35]
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DeadWeasel	;;slap eskimobob	[02:54]
*	gribble slaps eskimobob with a elicitory torture	[02:54]
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DeadWeas1l	;;ticker	[02:59]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.51079, Best ask: 24.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02921, Last trade: 24.51079, 24 hour volume: 31430.66254096, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.67503, 24 hour vwap: 24.16444	[02:59]
*	DeadWeas1l is now known as DeadWeasel	[03:01]
DeadWeasel	;;asks 25	[03:07]
gribble	There are currently 9260.6569 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 229947.752117 USD in total.	[03:07]
DeadWeasel	;;bids 24.5	[03:07]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.	[03:07]
DeadWeasel	;;bids 24	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell evoorhees https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1520259#msg1520259 he has a point there	[03:07]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[03:07]
gribble	There are currently 2032.1217 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.0 USD, worth 49120.3990789 USD in total.	[03:08]
DeadWeasel	;;bids 23	[03:18]
gribble	There are currently 10428.055 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 245554.642353 USD in total.	[03:18]
DeadWeasel	;;bids 24	[03:18]
gribble	There are currently 1774.9244 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.0 USD, worth 42951.1478531 USD in total.	[03:18]
pigeons	http://i.imgur.com/FO5bs3O.png	[03:18]
kakobreklaa	lol	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	ahaha nowai ?	[03:19]
DeadWeasel	who is that woman? i see here everyone online	[03:19]
DeadWeasel	everwhere*	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	that's the fearsome mpoe-pr	[03:19]
pigeons	picture from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92969.msg1519140#msg1519140	[03:21]
DeadWeasel	that your PR front MP?	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	my pr, yes.	[03:22]
DeadWeasel	it couldn't hurt.	[03:23]
pigeons	heh, you would think	[03:24]
pigeons	if you were to just guess	[03:24]
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DeadWeasel	i'm a great guesser.	[03:25]
pigeons	apparently not	[03:26]
*	DeadWeasel guesses the price of bitcoin will go up or down	[03:26]
DeadWeasel	bam!	[03:26]
DeadWeasel	hard to argue with an idiot, eh?	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13606324795.jpg have a prize	[03:28]
DeadWeasel	plastic wrapped. that must mean they're fresh	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:29]
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mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[03:49]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.44617, Best ask: 24.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05383, Last trade: 24.44617, 24 hour volume: 31371.13774248, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 24.67503, 24 hour vwap: 24.18070	[03:49]
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gabridome	!help	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	gabridome what are you trying to do ?	[03:52]
gabridome	hi just to obtain command help..	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	i don't think assbot has a help implemented.	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	pretty much what it does is	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.mpoe	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	sort of thing	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	gribble is	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	;;help	[03:53]
gribble	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/	[03:53]
gabridome	thanks	[03:53]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[12:30]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co \|\| https://coinbr.com \|\| https://cryptostocks.com \|\| https://icbit.se \|\| https://therocktrading.com \|\| https://assets-otc.com \|\| https://www.havelockinvestments.com \|\| https://bitfunder.com \|\| https://btct.co \|\| http://picostocks.com \|\| list bot commands: !help \|\| Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades	[12:30]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell bugpowder http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/11/article-2276884-17841A9A000005DC-22_634x815.jpg	[12:37]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[12:37]
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Namworld	http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/	[12:37]
Namworld	@mircea	[12:37]
Namworld	A new tool to have an eye on price 24/7 for trading options	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	lol kinda cool.	[12:39]
ThickerThanThiev	$25.20	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/225/bitcoin-to-surpass-gold-value-in-2013/	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	that's a pretty interestin bet...	[12:40]
Namworld	per gram/oz/kg?	[12:40]
BitHub	go with no on that one	[12:40]
Namworld	because per gram, maybe	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	per 31ths of ounce comex price	[12:41]
BitHub	doubtful	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	atm its 2:3	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	hence interesting	[12:41]
Bowjob	25 dollars	[12:41]
BitHub	so it is per gram?	[12:41]
Bowjob	holy shit	[12:41]
Namworld	ah, then yeah	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	it's per 1/31th of ounce	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	so practically grams yea	[12:42]
BitHub	yes 31 grams in a troy ounce	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	31.1	[12:42]
BitHub	why don't they just say that	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	prolly lazy	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	also gold grams aren't really priced anywherew	[12:42]
BitHub	create confusion	[12:42]
Bowjob	So.. where are the bears	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	what's gold atm, 1650 ?	[12:42]
BitHub	around 50 a gram or something	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 1650 / 31	[12:43]
gribble	53.2258064516	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	ya	[12:43]
BitHub	it could beat it	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/11/cnn-anchor-blames-asteroid-on-global-warming/	[12:43]
BitHub	does it just have to go over it, or by end of year it has to be over it?	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	this has to be the last word in libertard lmao	[12:43]
Namworld	Well anyway, I'm out	[12:44]
Namworld	goodbye	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	sleep tight	[12:44]
ThickerThanThiev	adios	[12:44]
Bowjob	at this rate, we	[12:44]
Bowjob	w'd see 3 digits	[12:44]
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Bowjob	soon	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	i love bitcoin, it fucks over people's sleep.	[12:45]
Bowjob	yah	[12:45]
Bowjob	25 dollars	[12:45]
Bowjob	holy shit	[12:45]
Bowjob	i shoulda dumped at least 10k on this thing	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[12:45]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.28000, Best ask: 25.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 25.30000, 24 hour volume: 38689.86085846, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.44526	[12:45]
ThickerThanThiev	look at the goxlive	[12:45]
Bowjob	woulda been ballsy	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	well, shoulda coulda woulda...	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	prolly too late by now	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	or is it ?	[12:45]
ThickerThanThiev	http://mtgoxlive.com/orders	[12:45]
Bowjob	ooh	[12:46]
Bowjob	id be damned if btc reaches 1k	[12:46]
Bowjob	ea'	[12:46]
Bowjob	O_O	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	30 looks possible.	[12:46]
Bowjob	id be a lazy fat cat	[12:46]
Bowjob	if that happens	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	i'll prolly be having dinners at the white house, if tht happens	[12:46]
Bowjob	so mp, hows the trolling contest no	[12:47]
Bowjob	w	[12:47]
Bowjob	anything notable?	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	well... so far buncha sa selfowning	[12:47]
Bowjob	that forum looks disgusting	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	but nothing substantial.	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	they're basically a buncha bitcoiners w/o bitcoin	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	but with equal faith in collectivism, being nice and whatnot	[12:48]
Bowjob	lol	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	a, and the various craps du jour. helping fags, women, niggers etc.	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	saving da planet, and whales	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	i forget what all is on the list.	[12:49]
Bowjob	mp for prez	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	lol noty.	[12:50]
Bowjob	u dont really have to do much just play gold	[12:50]
Bowjob	golf	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	i dont like golf.	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	i'd much rather just walk in a town than on a pasture.	[12:51]
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mircea_popescu	hey kakobreklaa, would it be possible for assbot to have a !last x y which'd replay the last trade of y on x ?	[12:56]
Bowjob	buying a 1 bedroom condo in dt vancouver, 5 BTC pm me	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	1 bedroom condos ?!	[12:57]
Bowjob	mhm?	[12:57]
Bowjob	yap	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	these seriously exist ?!	[12:57]
Bowjob	yeah	[12:57]
Bowjob	why	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	i thought condo-ing was a sort of upscale affair	[12:57]
Bowjob	I typed 1 bedroom condo in google	[12:58]
Bowjob	it showed an ad in vancouver	[12:58]
Bowjob	maybe its a vancouver thing	[12:58]
Bowjob	here, condos are relatively cheap. detached houses are a million bucks each	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	hey. learn something new everyday	[12:58]
Bowjob	i know in other countries condos are expensive and detatched houses are cheap	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	but yes, seems it's 90% a canada thing	[12:58]
Bowjob	well, here in vancouver the homeowners rent their basement out to pay for mortgage	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	haha literally basement dwellers ?	[13:00]
Bowjob	since no one can pony up a million bucks	[13:00]
Bowjob	yeah	[13:00]
Bowjob	actually we started as basement dwellers.. until we switched to a house	[13:00]
Bowjob	mortgage is insane, 2k a month	[13:01]
Ukto	lol	[13:01]
Ukto	Bowjob: next time I fly out that way, we can meet up	[13:01]
Bowjob	but. parents are paying so im getting a free ride.	[13:01]
Bowjob	i wouldnt buy this house even if i had the money but its pretty nice	[13:02]
Ukto	actually, Bowjob, if your interested, I have someone who is looking to buy weex CAD	[13:02]
Bowjob	btc to cad?	[13:03]
Ukto	actually, he just needs a canuk to deposit cad into weex so he can hold weex cad	[13:03]
Ukto	not sure how he wants to settle up	[13:03]
Ukto	but you would need a bank account at rbc, scotia, td or BoM	[13:03]
Bowjob	Ah. I'm with a credit union	[13:04]
Bowjob	free debit card..	[13:04]
Ukto	ah	[13:04]
Ukto	thanks then. just trying to put people together. :)	[13:04]
Bowjob	td is charging 15 dollars per month for a debit	[13:05]
Bowjob	lol im not really a canuck. i didnt participate in the riots	[13:06]
knotwork	thats insane. Royal gave me a free debit caard that masquerades on the net as a credit card	[13:06]
Bowjob	ooh. they are now charging 2 dollars to deposit paper money .. per 1000	[13:07]
Bowjob	wtf is this	[13:07]
Bowjob	oh wait its business account lol	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	heh the amusements continue i see	[13:12]
mircea_popescu	;;eauth mircea_popescu	[13:12]
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mircea_popescu	;;rate fbastage -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695	[13:13]
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mircea_popescu	doh ?!	[13:14]
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mircea_popescu	;;rate fbastage -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695	[13:14]
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BitHub	anybody ever try out mpex, what's it like?	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	;;rate eskimobob -10 Never interacted with the guy. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695	[13:15]
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mircea_popescu	heh that's not accurate is it.	[13:16]
Bowjob	i didnt know arabic text is from right to left	[13:16]
mircea_popescu	;;rate eskimobob -10 #bitcoin-asset's premier angry clueless noob. Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695	[13:16]
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mircea_popescu	Bowjob yeah, most middle eastern languages are like that.	[13:16]
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mircea_popescu	haha this is rich : lowtax joins btctalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22158	[13:29]
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knotwork	If you are pretty confident bitcoins are just going to generally keep going up and up, are options of much use, or are they generally mostly useful if you are uncertain thus want to hedge against your uncertainty?	[13:30]
mircea_popescu	this question presuposes that one's state of mind is more important than reality.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	this is not the case.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	however people feel is irrelevant. we don't know for a fact nor is there any clear mathematical proof that btc only goes up.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	consequently, hedging is both responsible and required.	[13:31]
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knotwork	so options are useful to insure against it going down but not a means to increase the profit one is making from it going up?	[13:38]
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mjr_	hi all	[13:45]
leotreasure	you can make money going up too	[13:46]
leotreasure	but you usually need to buy below the ask price to have any kind of chance	[13:47]
mjr_	you can also arb the exchanges	[13:47]
mjr_	specifically if you are fast on the other exchanges you can get better than mt. gox	[13:47]
knotwork	thats not options though	[13:48]
mjr_	coinbase is too fast...but especially overnight, if you go on camp bx or bitfloor...people leave their limit orders up and you can get a bunch under $25	[13:48]
knotwork	maybe if one could find someone willing to buy a put at current price you could make money going up due to they wont exercise it	[13:49]
pizzaman1337	btc-e too	[13:49]
BitHub	hey leo, was it you i was talking to about the aud law and stuff?	[13:49]
leotreasure	hey BitHub yes it was	[13:49]
mjr_	but yeah, options are tough, i just got calls so i wouldn't get left behind	[13:49]
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mjr_	the 17 strike option was a good deal i think	[13:49]
BitHub	ahh, how did you go, get anymore answers to your questions?	[13:49]
BitHub	i checked out the site today	[13:49]
leotreasure	i'm going to speak with the head lawyer in Sydney in a few weeks	[13:49]
BitHub	where can i donate? :)	[13:49]
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mjr_	if you just calculate the breakeven for each of the calls, you can find the "cheapest" one and then watch it rip lol	[13:50]
leotreasure	i haven't started accepting donations officially yet but i guess you could send them here 1LeobZhdhmvQUpcdgF7MExR1CobUygUi5P	[13:51]
mjr_	in my case, yesterday my breakeven for the $17 call was 25.30 i think...	[13:51]
leotreasure	thanks btw :)	[13:51]
BitHub	.5 btc coming up :) keep up the good work	[13:51]
knotwork	what does the $17 even mean if actual breakeven is 25.30 ?	[13:52]
mjr_	well	[13:52]
BitHub	sent :)	[13:53]
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mjr_	you are paying for the option to buy bitcoins at $17	[13:53]
mjr_	but if i tell you i will give you that option for $8...	[13:53]
knotwork	and you pay 25.30 minus 17 as fee?	[13:53]
mircea_popescu	knotwork if you sell puits short	[13:53]
mircea_popescu	you do make a lot when it goes up	[13:53]
mjr_	it doesn't make sense to use that option unless they are selling for $17+8	[13:53]
mjr_	no...you are paying $17 (i bought the right to buy a bitcoin for $17) and I paid $8 for that right	[13:54]
knotwork	so the $17 strike options price was $8.30 per coin for the option?	[13:54]
mircea_popescu	take O.BTCUSD.P350T. you can sell it now for 0.43102778	[13:54]
mjr_	around there	[13:54]
mircea_popescu	if btc goes to 36 it's worth 0	[13:54]
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mircea_popescu	and so you made 0.43 btc PER	[13:54]
knotwork	or I guess, paid $8 and had an additional fee for the exchange of $0.30	[13:54]
mjr_	nah, i was doing rough estimate	[13:55]
mjr_	i paid...	[13:55]
mjr_	0.33832578 bitcoins for that option	[13:55]
mjr_	which adds in the extra wrinkle of how do i calculate what i paid for the option	[13:55]
mjr_	do i calculate my average cost of bitcoins, the price at the time of purchase, or the price when i exercise....	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ well you have to decide if you keep books in btc or not	[13:56]
mjr_	yeah. it is mainly an accounting decision	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	first off	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	and yes it is.	[13:56]
BitHub	i do it at time of purchase mjr	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	that yields a consolidated sort of gain	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	(value of decision to buy btc + value of decision to buy option) together	[13:57]
mjr_	yeah	[13:58]
mjr_	that makes sense	[13:58]
BitHub	i just write the amount of btc and the amount and the total amount i paid for it at the time.	[13:58]
mjr_	i have to translate back to USD unfortunately	[13:58]
mjr_	because that is how you show ridiculous gains against a failing dollar	[13:58]
BitHub	example 50 btc 1000 aud	[13:58]
BitHub	at the time or purchase	[13:59]
BitHub	of	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ the excruciatingly precise way to do it would be to keep separate accounts.	[13:59]
mjr_	k	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	then do vwap price when you buy, actual price you bought at	[13:59]
mjr_	yeah true	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	then when you do options value btc in then-current vwap and add difference to acct	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	etc	[13:59]
mjr_	ugh, i was an accounting major, but i don't do that now because it aint fun	[13:59]
BitHub	keep it in fiat figures	[14:00]
BitHub	easier	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	you end up with an account plan doing a. btc buying slippage gain/loss ; b. overtime btc gain/loss ; c. option entry/exit gain/loss	[14:00]
knotwork	how much were bitcoins price when people paid $8 for option to buy them for $17 ?	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	so 3 accounts	[14:00]
mjr_	yeah	[14:00]
mjr_	i believe when i bought the option bitcoin was around $24/1btc	[14:00]
mjr_	but even so...this is a matter of precision...	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[14:01]
mjr_	i think it will hit 30 by the end of the month (last friday)	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	back when btc was about 14/each an option struck at 15 would have cost about .15 btc say, roughly, so like 2 dollars.	[14:01]
mjr_	so i am just quibbling over how much percent i will make lol	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	now it's worth 10 bucks each, +400%	[14:01]
knotwork	so at buying coin for $17 at that moment woud only have cost you $7 (over the 17) instead of the 8 you paid for mere option?	[14:02]
mjr_	you can even do it as a constantly changing variable	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	knotwork yes.	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	options contain a premium obviously. being options.	[14:02]
knotwork	weird so why not just buy the damn coin instead of the option?	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	because if they go down you lose.	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	he paid the extra whatever , 50 cents, a dollar, to insure his 17 capital out of the 24 against the possibility of loss	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	if you buy 1 btc at 24, then you risk 24. if you buy 1 btc synthetically via an option at 8, you risk only the 8.	[14:04]
mjr_	like profit = current exchange price - (strike + cost of option at current exchange)	[14:04]
knotwork	ok, and seller gets $8 instead of 7 but faces loss if they go down instead of up	[14:04]
mircea_popescu	yup	[14:04]
mircea_popescu	so in this sense it can work as leverage, even as high as 10`000%	[14:04]
mircea_popescu	which is why people were lolling at people who lost their stuff in bitcoinica.	[14:05]
knotwork	but with options the guy you sell them to is going to exercise them at just the worst moment for the seller	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	possibly.	[14:06]
knotwork	whereas owning the coins you dont care if they go down if you "know" its just a matter of time before they go back up, aks that the momentary down is just momentary	[14:06]
knotwork	with options that momentary down is where buyer will nail you	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	it does use the 24 hour avg price tho	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	so it has to be really down not just spot down	[14:06]
knotwork	so buyer just needs to manipulate the oracle into reportying a momentary low and exercise	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	and in any event it's better than bitcoinica-style forced liquidation event.	[14:07]
mjr_	also	[14:07]
knotwork	oh ok average helps make oracle resistant to maniulating to some extent	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	kinda hard to manipulate the 24 hour average.	[14:07]
mjr_	they may not exercise when it's worst	[14:07]
mjr_	since they can't kinow that	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	yeah, they may think it will go even lower.	[14:07]
mjr_	if i could pick bottoms and tops, i would be a billionaire	[14:07]
knotwork	oh right	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	exactly. it's a market after all.	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	they can't go retroactively and say i buy here i sell there	[14:08]
mjr_	yeah, more than likely, they will wait and if it turns around they will exercise there	[14:08]
mjr_	missing a little profit	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ and THEN it collapses	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	and they kick themselves	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	this channel log is full of such adventures	[14:08]
mjr_	lol true	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	not just optiopns, stocks too etc.	[14:08]
mjr_	look at apple	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	yah	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	market is market.	[14:08]
mjr_	that is a perfect example of not being able to find tops or bottoms	[14:09]
mjr_	some peple sold apple at $25 and thought they were genius's	[14:09]
mjr_	others bought at 699 thinking it couldn't go down	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:09]
mjr_	the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	that's not actually true. for instance all of asicminer is like 50-100k btc.	[14:10]
mjr_	anyways, with my call, which is my favorite single legged strategy, i will prob just let it auto exercise at the end of the month	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	it can't outsolventize me.	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	however, this is the #1 risk i face. one day it will be the case, and ima try not to get fucked then.	[14:10]
mjr_	that is true	[14:10]
mjr_	yeah	[14:10]
knotwork	by selling the right kind(s) of options can you ensure you never actually lose what you had, worst loss you could have is just not making as much as you might have if if you hadnt sold those options?	[14:10]
mjr_	but what i said earlier is the reason why "martingaling" doesn't work over the long run	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	knotwork you can lock profits in.	[14:10]
mjr_	yes, or protect against big downsides	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	say you bought calls and they are now up. you can buy puts and pretty much lock it.	[14:11]
mjr_	yes true	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	or if you sold puts short, you can sell calls too	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	or buy them back	[14:11]
mjr_	strangle/straddle	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	it's really very complex/flexible	[14:11]
mjr_	yep, but options strategies are my favorite	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	the only thing is, it needs thinking	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	unlike forexy things where you just mash the buy/sell buttons	[14:11]
mjr_	it's just hard when pretty much i think "it's going up"	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	you need a strategy here	[14:11]
mjr_	well...aren't there options on currency?	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	surely.	[14:12]
knotwork	yeah nice thing about just holding one's coins indefinitely is it doesnt need much/any thought	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	most retail plays forex (and gets scammed)	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	most serious investors do options	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	(like buffett etc)	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	knotwork very true.	[14:12]
mjr_	yes, i would definitely sell calls on the US dollar	[14:12]
knotwork	they went down from $32 but lately its finally looking like they are recovering	[14:12]
mjr_	with a far out enough expiration date	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ selling calls on the usd or buying calls on the btc are very similar i think	[14:12]
mjr_	exactly	[14:13]
mjr_	you can describe my positoin as bearish us dollar, or bullish bitcoin	[14:13]
knotwork	I missed opportunities I could have in theory got by selling high and buying back in low but I could not be sure there would ever be a low to buy back in at	[14:13]
mjr_	it is more bullish bitcoin than anything	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	still some decoupling, but as btc mkt cap increases there will be less and less.	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	knotwork exactly.	[14:13]
mjr_	you can conceivably make money still just by market making and arbing different exchanges	[14:13]
mjr_	especially very early in the morning or late at night	[14:13]
mjr_	(though i realize it is global)	[14:14]
pigeons	early morning/late at night where?	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	new york. he does have sorta a point	[14:14]
mjr_	yes...mostly US and europe i would guess	[14:14]
mjr_	i mean...i was watching around 3am NYC	[14:14]
mjr_	you could still scoop up btc for under 25 on camp bx	[14:14]
pigeons	how many though	[14:14]
mjr_	eh, like 10 btc under 25	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	i think arbing the fiat exchanges is more work than it's worth.	[14:15]
mjr_	they are already taken	[14:15]
mjr_	i agree	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	i mean, take the havelock/mpex s.dice difference.	[14:15]
mjr_	not enough volatitliy and razor thin margins cuz of transferring money back and forth	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	there's like, what, 3-4 btc worth to be made arbing that ?	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	i doubt there's 100 bux to be made working campbx/stamp/mtgox/w/e	[14:15]
pigeons	yeah i see high prices at havelock, then i look at the order size, right	[14:16]
mjr_	depends	[14:16]
mjr_	if its a bot...	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	pigeons yest like 28 lots sold at 76	[14:16]
Diablo-D3	http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/virtual-bitcoins-can-now-be-traded-for-dominos-pizza/	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	i think book is deceptive, as btc ppl are very impatient.	[14:16]
pigeons	at dominos? cause i used jjjrmy's bitpizza in 2011	[14:16]
mjr_	yeah, well, i mostly use the strategies i've said to try to get as long as possible, for as little money as possible	[14:18]
knotwork	yeah that is what I'd like to be able to do	[14:19]
mjr_	so if i can scoop up cheap coins on camp bx, or bitfloor, i would, simply cuz i plan on holding them	[14:19]
mjr_	only problem is you multiply CP risk	[14:19]
knotwork	kind of abstractly using my increased riches to buy more bitcoins, without actually spending my bitcoins to do so since they are my riches	[14:19]
mjr_	and you have way more accounting to do	[14:19]
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Bugpowder	still no assbot	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	sucks.	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	i wonder what the trouble is	[14:20]
knotwork	shorting something else to buy bitcoins might be best maybe, such as borrow some other type of coin using bitcoins as colalteral, and sell what you borrow to buy more bitcoins to use as more collateral etc	[14:21]
Bugpowder	bubbletalk	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	knotwork that's very dangerous.	[14:22]
knotwork	that worked great with devcoins for a while but now devcoins are so crazy cheap its looking dangerous that they might go back up before you pay back the loan	[14:22]
knotwork	now instead its time to buy all those cheap devcoins to pay back the loans	[14:22]
knotwork	and maybe borrow some other coin that seems overpriced or at least not at a crazy low	[14:22]
ThickerThanThiev	that pizza article made it to BBC too	[14:23]
ThickerThanThiev	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21427505	[14:23]
knotwork	borrowing is always dangerous but particularly so for things there arent many of	[14:23]
mircea_popescu	yup	[14:23]
knotwork	as you could end up trapped owing something that you cannot get hold of or not at decent price	[14:23]
pigeons	pizza was the first useful thing you could buy with bitoin	[14:24]
Bugpowder	;;asks 29	[14:24]
gribble	There are currently 9937.51 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 266608.244608 USD in total.	[14:24]
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jurov	;;ticker	[14:27]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.31000, Best ask: 25.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 25.31000, 24 hour volume: 44738.61190480, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.61882	[14:27]
jurov	lol this is insane... just few hours ago i cashed out a bit at 24.21	[14:27]
pigeons	nuts	[14:28]
JWU42	;;asks 30	[14:29]
gribble	There are currently 17410.07 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 488875.899895 USD in total.	[14:29]
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mircea_popescu	jurov i sold 200 btc's worth specifically to rebuy once price tanks back to 20.	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	so far im losing on that idea.	[14:29]
jurov	i have my parents lined up for buying btcs if that happens	[14:30]
knotwork	cashing out at anything less than $100 is more a daytrader thing or a desperately need the cash thing really	[14:30]
JWU42	=)	[14:30]
JWU42	knotwork: huh?	[14:30]
knotwork	tho likely by time it hits $100 that'd have to be changed to "anything less than $150"	[14:30]
jurov	^exactly	[14:31]
JWU42	so - BTC gets to $95 in 5 years	[14:31]
jurov	or in 5 months	[14:31]
Bugpowder	dat bubble	[14:31]
JWU42	and then something goes batshit bad and BTC goes back to $.01	[14:31]
knotwork	JWU42 daytrader as in hoping it will dip sometime so you can buy back in cheaper	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	knotwork i was trying to play teh daytrader what can i tel lyou.	[14:31]
JWU42	you lose EVERYTHING	[14:31]
JWU42	on paper	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder ikr?	[14:31]
pigeons	if it was .01 i could buy them all	[14:31]
Bugpowder	its fun	[14:32]
Bugpowder	i love bubbles	[14:32]
Bugpowder	reminds me of DNDN	[14:32]
JWU42	well - the only reason it goes to $.01 is that the project is effectively dead and broken	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	all bitcoins in the world for 100k ? sure, i'll take em	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	JWU42 100k is inconsequential irl anyway	[14:32]
JWU42	and for some those odds might be worth it	[14:32]
Bugpowder	it will never go to .01	[14:33]
JWU42	mircea_popescu: for some people 100K is currently 5x their lifetime savings	[14:33]
pigeons	;;totalbc	[14:33]
gribble	10770225.0	[14:33]
Bugpowder	maybe 1 if SHTM	[14:33]
Bugpowder	SHTF	[14:33]
knotwork	next time it goes toward $2 it likely wont even get there	[14:33]
JWU42	and that is a growing % of people in the US	[14:33]
jurov	lol i'm looking up the usd/eur rate at bitstamp's bank... and usd isn't there	[14:33]
jurov	so it's here... usd not valid anymore	[14:33]
pigeons	heh	[14:33]
JWU42	no real equity appreciation in a dozen years	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	ya well JWU42 , some people have no business doing btc megaplays either.	[14:33]
Bugpowder	https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/	[14:33]
JWU42	mega is the key word there	[14:33]
JWU42	;)	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	indeed	[14:34]
JWU42	as the saying goes - pigs get slaughtered	[14:34]
mircea_popescu	if 100k is 5x your life savinfgs you obviously have no place dicking around b uying internet funny moneys for 100k	[14:34]
JWU42	waiting to sell anything until $100 is, to me, piggish	[14:34]
knotwork	its looking likely now that lots of folks will think we are finally recovering to our $32 we were at back before all those hacks hit the fans	[14:34]
JWU42	true there MP	[14:34]
knotwork	so I would not be surprised to see it go to $32 shortly then think about whether to bubble or just gloat a while before continuing up	[14:35]
JWU42	I thought we would stop at 20	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	i think many people are psychologically invested in passing the bubble	[14:35]
JWU42	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png	[14:35]
JWU42	still favorable	[14:36]
knotwork	(by whether to bubble I mean whether to shoot on up more, not whether to "burst")	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	so 30-35 is more a reasonable next plateau i guess	[14:36]
ThickerThanThiev	I think there are more and more people putting a portion of the their weekly paycheck into BTC	[14:36]
JWU42	I am selling about 5% at these levels	[14:36]
ThickerThanThiev	propping it up higher and higher	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	BTC prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel there will be soon if ever a 50 or 60 point break from present levels, such as (bears) have predicted. I expect to see the BTC market a good deal higher within a few months.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	there, i jinxed it.	[14:37]
knotwork	yes I think so, if it keeps shooting up as fast when it passes $32 I'll start to think its likely to burst back down to $25 to 32 range	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/seymour062001.html there's more famous quotes.	[14:37]
knotwork	seems likely at $32 people will worry that higher might be "just a bubble", and of course some folk will be already thinking it is a bubble, so likely should slow the climb around there	[14:38]
ThickerThanThiev	just the fact that we're noting $32 means it's obv people will get skittish at that point	[14:39]
Bugpowder	nah	[14:39]
Bugpowder	this move will violently reverse	[14:39]
Bugpowder	at some point	[14:39]
knotwork	yeah its a famous high imaged to have been a bubble	[14:39]
Bugpowder	retrace 25-50%	[14:39]
Bugpowder	bounce	[14:40]
Bugpowder	resettle	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder there's not really that much btc on the market.	[14:40]
Bugpowder	who knows how high	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	your modelling assumes 50-70% of btc moves.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	the reality is closer to 5-7%. certainly under 1/4	[14:40]
knotwork	I dont think $32 was really a bubble at all but saying it was plus all the hacks forced it into being one, self fulfilling prophecy	[14:40]
knotwork	I thought $32 was just people realising the potential and pricing it in	[14:41]
Bugpowder	There will be a lot of BTC on the market when the price falls 20% and stays down for more than an hour.	[14:41]
Bugpowder	waterfalllll	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	this is why price moves so much : fiat side can increase 1000% in two weeks on account of very small basis (in fiat terms)	[14:41]
pigeons	jurov: https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/300947007957237760	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	btc side can only move very little to absorb that	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	so price compensates.	[14:41]
knotwork	ever since I have figured it is fundamentally worth more than $32 or at least $32	[14:41]
Bugpowder	to think otherwise is classic bubble delishion	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	and no, either side. people don't sell.	[14:41]
Bugpowder	delusion	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	perhaps.	[14:41]
jurov	pigeons i know, but i'm doing withdrawal not deposit	[14:41]
jurov	if i don't receive it in 2 days i'll let you know	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	ima write this up, brb	[14:42]
jurov	and cross another exchange out of my list	[14:42]
knotwork	if it falls 20% and stays down more than an hour people will be running to get more bucks to exhcanges to buy those cheap coins	[14:42]
ThickerThanThiev	i dont think people are as liquid as that	[14:43]
ThickerThanThiev	"running to get more bucks"	[14:43]
jurov	i'm considering to use this panic to sell bitstamp usd codes :D	[14:43]
jurov	if that happens	[14:43]
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jurov	or i'll go by car to slovenia to deposit first lol	[14:46]
kakobreklaa	hmm	[14:47]
kakobreklaa	want to buy bitstamp code?	[14:47]
jurov	not atm, just phantasizing	[14:47]
jurov	over my after-good-lunch coffee	[14:48]
kakobreklaa	maybe there is money to be made here	[14:49]
kakobreklaa	i have my deposits processed same day if im early enough	[14:49]
jurov	kakobreklaa, you have a clue why unicredit bank has no usd rate published?	[14:49]
kakobreklaa	no clue	[14:49]
kakobreklaa	i never checked it there	[14:50]
jurov	http://www.unicreditbank.si/tecajna_lista/?t=1&id_menu=&language=ENG	[14:50]
kakobreklaa	its not too far from what google will say regarding eur usd ratio	[14:50]
kakobreklaa	lol	[14:50]
kakobreklaa	silly	[14:50]
jurov	i know, just i tried to find it for like 15 seconds in vain	[14:50]
knotwork	wow it dipped below $25, buy buy buy! :)	[14:50]
pigeons	the bubble is over! it's going to .02	[14:51]
jurov	;;ticker	[14:51]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.97000, Best ask: 25.07000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 25.07000, 24 hour volume: 47520.26271140, 24 hour low: 23.64560, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.64565	[14:51]
jurov	perhaps market got aware that mp is cashing out	[14:52]
jurov	:D	[14:52]
kakobreklaa	mp is cashing out!?	[14:52]
kakobreklaa	is it april 1st?	[14:52]
*	Ukto cashes kakobreklaa out	[14:52]
jurov	[13:29] jurov i sold 200 btc's worth specifically to rebuy once price tanks back to 20.	[14:52]
jurov	[13:29] so far im losing on that idea.	[14:53]
kakobreklaa	impossibru!	[14:53]
Ukto	heh, its gonna hit 30	[14:53]
Ukto	promise	[14:53]
Ukto	too much money still flowing in	[14:53]
jurov	it's like bernanke saying he'll change 2k usd to euros. market would panic.	[14:53]
knotwork	finally all the MP-haters can strike back, just keep buying to prevent it ever going down to 20!	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:54]
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Ukto	mircea_popescu: HAHA YOU FUCKED UP FINALLY. j/k :P	[14:54]
knotwork	yeah nice psywar move MP	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	what can i say, i don't shit gold	[14:54]
Ukto	damn it, why not	[14:54]
knotwork	hahaha made MP miss out on $1000 by making hs remaining holdngs go up 20+ percent hahaha	[14:55]
pigeons	why would he waste his time thinking about such a paltry sum as 200 btc?	[14:55]
Ukto	is this even a serious conversation? lol	[14:55]
*	Ukto is going back to being ill now. :P	[14:55]
pigeons	ok time to get serious, we're making Ukto sick	[14:56]
jurov	i was not serious (just to stay clear)	[14:56]
pigeons	i'm usually about half-serious/half-joking as a hedge	[14:57]
jurov	humour hedging? what did the world came to	[14:58]
Ukto	pigeons: wanna trade options on humor?	[14:58]
jurov	what will be next? drama futures?	[14:58]
Ukto	dont we already have that?	[14:58]
pigeons	well i used to joke on margin, that didn't turn out well	[14:58]
Ukto	afk	[14:58]
jurov	Ukto, let's create me CoinBr.Drama-E and CoinBr.Drama-E on bf	[14:59]
jurov	*CoinBr.Drama-O	[14:59]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell bugpowder here you go : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/	[15:20]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[15:20]
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mircea_popescu	dude don't tell me my 200 btc comment crashed it ?!	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	you ppl gotta stop listening to me srsly.	[15:21]
wao	:D	[15:22]
wao	mircea_popescu: url	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	wao hm ?	[15:23]
wao	for your 200 btc comment o_O	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	its in the log above neh ?	[15:24]
DeadWeasel	did you break IRC with your inflammatory comments?	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	i ruined everything!!1	[15:27]
knotwork	" Two billion dollars divided by 600`000 Bitcoins comes to three thousand dollars and chance per Bitcoin." --> s/chance/change/ ???	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	oty	[15:28]
knotwork	"Neutral and unengaded governments win" --> s/unengaded/unengaged/ ???	[15:29]
knotwork	"forget all about the Youkon gold rush sometime" --> s/Youcon/Yukon/ ??? Or is you con a deliberate pun?	[15:31]
knotwork	oops I meant s/Youkon/Yukon/	[15:32]
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mircea_popescu	hehe the youkon is a joke ya	[15:34]
DeadWeasel	where are these atrocious spelling and grammar mistakes coming from?	[15:36]
DeadWeasel	mircea_popescu: probably your site, you gotta start proofreading. :)	[15:37]
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TomServo	unengaded = unengaged?	[15:38]
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TomServo	oops, didn't see it had been mentioned - apologies.	[15:41]
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DeadWeasel	africans could actually use this, cos most of them are landless, addressesless. Course the don't have any money either.	[15:55]
DeadWeasel	ahahahahahahahha. they kicked all the whites out and 5 years later they are starving.	[16:00]
DeadWeasel	they can't manage their resources	[16:00]
Diablo-D3	>yukon gold	[16:01]
Diablo-D3	mmm potatoes	[16:01]
Diablo-D3	>every1	[16:01]
Diablo-D3	>stupid	[16:01]
Diablo-D3	truffles is an african	[16:02]
DeadWeasel	no way, my step brother is south african. he has a great business.	[16:02]
Diablo-D3	DeadWeasel: but is he black?	[16:02]
DeadWeasel	sorry, brother in law, i'm a little retarded today myself.	[16:02]
DeadWeasel	nope.	[16:02]
DeadWeasel	but he's south african.	[16:02]
Diablo-D3	I can think of at least two south africans who made it big... but they're white	[16:02]
DeadWeasel	i'll ask next time I see him.	[16:03]
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Diablo-D3	they have no resources to manage	[16:04]
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Diablo-D3	mining? oil? businesses owned by white men.	[16:05]
Diablo-D3	and the coffee industry is also ran by white men	[16:05]
Diablo-D3	I dont blame for most of africa hating people just because they're white	[16:05]
Diablo-D3	they see the color of your skin and know you're evil because thats all they've ever seen	[16:06]
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mircea_popescu	DeadWeasel i crowdsource proofreading :D	[16:07]
Diablo-D3	colonial powers ARE white	[16:07]
Bugpowdurr	Japan was a colonial power	[16:08]
Diablo-D3	japan was an imperial power	[16:09]
Diablo-D3	THEY had colonies	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	costa rica is a colonial power	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	it has colones	[16:10]
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error4733	he is just a tech	[16:20]
error4733	good luck with that	[16:20]
BitHub	anyone selling any asicminer shares?	[16:21]
BitHub	transfer them to my email adress?	[16:21]
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mircea_popescu	i imagine the pain and horror of unwinding all these asicminer assignment transactions will create the profession of btclawyer	[16:22]
BitHub	i know :/	[16:23]
BitHub	its a bit risky	[16:23]
BitHub	but i need to feed my fams	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	hey, nothing wrong with having that profession around	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	i was trying to push for it with the rota, but as long as it gets made somehow it's all good.	[16:24]
BitHub	i would actually pay for that service atm	[16:24]
BitHub	i made a donation to bitcoin-legal.org before	[16:24]
BitHub	could be good	[16:24]
ThickerThanThiev	bithub, what would you use a bitlawyer for now?	[16:25]
BitHub	just to help me in relation to australian small business law	[16:25]
BitHub	in terms of licences, staying legal, AML and AT compliyant etc	[16:26]
BitHub	company structure	[16:26]
Bugpowdurr	Well if anyone has a recommendation for a US based CPA that gets bitcoin and can issue recommendations, I am all ears.	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowdurr possibly smickles once he gets his reg	[16:28]
Bugpowdurr	heh	[16:28]
Bugpowdurr	Probably going for someone more established	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	it'd be pretty cool if some big name cpa started taking btc	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	much more important than wikipedia/worpress/whatnot	[16:32]
BitHub	must be doable to outsource a cpa somewhere and pay them in btc	[16:33]
BitHub	same with a lawyer	[16:33]
pigeons	http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=la&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loremipsum.net%2F	[16:33]
BitHub	these are probably things the bitcoin foundation should be working on	[16:34]
DeadWeasel	I just got offered a permenent position at my contract job.	[16:34]
DeadWeasel	wooooo forme.	[16:34]
DeadWeasel	and I spent most of my time talking on here and looking at bitcointalk.	[16:34]
pigeons	DeadWeasel: its a trap	[16:34]
DeadWeasel	i know it is pigeons	[16:34]
DeadWeasel	but this is a right to work state and I can leave anytime.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	interesting what right to work ends up meaning	[16:35]
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mircea_popescu	http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/acc/3604579148.html loller	[16:39]
ThickerThanThiev	not the worst idea...	[16:40]
ThickerThanThiev	(for the scammer)	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	"I actually recommended a disabled guy with a limited government social income to use some of his last savings to buy 3 units from this guy."	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	the stuff btcrtalk people do ...	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	it's unconscionable. the badmouth mpex on the grounds of it being too good for them and saying so,	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	they push disabled people into sending their last savings to scammers.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	it's a wonder that thing doesn't explode already.	[16:43]
DeadWeasel	i use an ssh tunnel into my home machine through PUtty, and use IRSSI, it looks like a data sync.	[16:44]
DeadWeasel	I have several command windows open and this one just blends in	[16:44]
DeadWeasel	plus I use screen and can switch this one to another command window doing something legit	[16:45]
iz	ctrl-a, ctrl-a, the boss is coming	[16:46]
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DeadWeasel	they are welcome to.	[16:57]
DeadWeasel	I have delays where I"m waiting for builds or loaders, so I do as I please.	[16:57]
jcpham	where is the new drama	[16:59]
DeadWeasel	;;slap jcpham	[17:05]
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DeadWeasel	there it is.	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[17:12]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.32002, Best ask: 25.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 25.32001, 24 hour volume: 51237.14840373, 24 hour low: 23.67740, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.74607	[17:12]
DeadWeasel	;;bc,24hprc	[17:13]
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gribble	24.71	[17:14]
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Diablo-D3	Im going to see how much it costs to start an LLC in Maine	[17:22]
Diablo-D3	its probably more than I have, though	[17:22]
BitHub	400?	[17:22]
mircea_popescu	should be like a hundred or w/e	[17:25]
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Chaang-Noi	xrp?	[17:37]
Chaang-Noi	d3 why?	[17:38]
Diablo-D3	why what?	[17:44]
coingenuity	Diablo-D3: $85	[17:47]
coingenuity	also, why maine of all places	[17:47]
Diablo-D3	because maine needs the money the most of all places	[17:47]
Diablo-D3	its also better to register in the state that you have your physical assets in	[17:47]
Diablo-D3	makes it easier to make the state go your way	[17:47]
pigeons	prolly vice versa as well	[17:48]
Diablo-D3	maine also has very cheap very cold land	[17:48]
Chaang-Noi	why do you need a llc d3?	[17:50]
pigeons	to limit his liability	[17:50]
Chaang-Noi	glbse should have made a llc, but many other btc operations, but you dont just make one cuz...	[17:50]
Diablo-D3	Chaang-Noi: because thats the norm for technology startups	[17:51]
Chaang-Noi	liabibility to what is what im trying to ask pigeons	[17:51]
Chaang-Noi	d3 do you have a tech start up?	[17:51]
Diablo-D3	you know I do	[17:51]
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Chaang-Noi	i thought your company was dead?	[17:53]
Chaang-Noi	iv not been around	[17:53]
Chaang-Noi	is it back alive?	[17:53]
Diablo-D3	Chaang-Noi: it never died	[17:55]
Diablo-D3	Im just cleaning up the mess nefario caused	[17:55]
Chaang-Noi	ok	[17:55]
Diablo-D3	its taking longer than I wished, but the sooner all of this gets going the better	[17:55]
Chaang-Noi	ok	[17:56]
Chaang-Noi	best of luck	[17:56]
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Chaang-Noi	;;ticker	[18:07]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.41225, Best ask: 25.45500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04275, Last trade: 25.41225, 24 hour volume: 51819.99065886, 24 hour low: 23.67740, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77514	[18:07]
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gribble	1 BTC = 25.31971 U.S. dollars = 18.8418738 Euros	[18:36]
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Bugpowdurr	takes a lot of $$$ to move the market now	[18:38]
Bugpowdurr	not a lot of BTC though	[18:38]
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iz	so.. i figure ppl in here understand foreign currencies pretty well also, so i'll ask here.. why is the yen moving now?	[18:51]
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DeadWeasel	you know a lot about africans	[19:00]
Bugpowdurr	iz, Nuke Test	[19:02]
Bugpowdurr	maybe	[19:02]
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asa1024	abe told BOJ to print yen to boost their stock market I had read.	[19:04]
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DeadWeasel	bugpowder, you should start a tea company. BudPowder tea. with different bugpowder flavors	[19:04]
asa1024	check zero hedge for moar	[19:04]
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Bugpowdurr	byebye 25.60	[19:05]
iz	it was happening before the nuke test	[19:05]
Bugpowdurr	where is the assbot	[19:06]
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Bugpowdurr	;;ticker	[19:07]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.60888, Best ask: 25.64999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04111, Last trade: 25.65000, 24 hour volume: 55047.39682831, 24 hour low: 23.84590, 24 hour high: 25.75000, 24 hour vwap: 24.85482	[19:07]
Bugpowdurr	YAH!	[19:07]
Bugpowdurr	assbot is back!	[19:07]
Bugpowdurr	!ticker m s.mpoe	[19:07]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062608 / 0.00064414 / 0.00066029 (2741845 shares, 1,766.15 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00066649 / 0.0007 (21474701 shares, 14,312.79 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066292 / 0.0007 (75430667 shares, 50,004.63 BTC)	[19:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.0006556 = 4.2286 BTC [-]	[19:07]
Lucidize	Is there any chance of Obsi making some kind of magical payback? Any news on him?	[19:10]
asa1024	The pope lutheran?	[19:11]
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error4733	!ticker m s.dice	[19:16]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598091 / 0.00608437 / 0.00620694 (7895 shares, 48.04 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00608305 / 0.00689996 (3348531 shares, 20,369.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00557377 / 0.0075 (8343729 shares, 46,506.07 BTC)	[19:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0006556 = 3.1141 BTC [-]	[19:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14024 @ 0.00065566 = 9.195 BTC [+]	[19:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5530 @ 0.00065343 = 3.6135 BTC [-]	[19:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.00065343 = 6.1266 BTC [-]	[19:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4026 @ 0.00065566 = 2.6397 BTC [+]	[19:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7040 @ 0.00066029 = 4.6484 BTC [+]	[19:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3708 @ 0.0006604 = 2.4488 BTC [+]	[19:22]
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Bugpowdurr	yeah	[19:26]
Bugpowdurr	S.MPOE up to .00066	[19:26]
Bugpowdurr	lets hope so	[19:37]
imsaguy	lets hope it remains stable	[19:38]
imsaguy	drastic spikes will all but certainly lead to drastic drops	[19:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7989 @ 0.00064622 = 5.1627 BTC [-]	[19:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00064551 = 8.5207 BTC [-]	[19:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20897 @ 0.00065178 = 13.6202 BTC [+]	[19:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4357 @ 0.00063748 = 2.7775 BTC [-]	[19:39]
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Bugpowdurr	yeah	[19:43]
Bugpowdurr	volatility is great!	[19:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065069 = 9.6302 BTC [+]	[19:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00620694 = 10.5518 BTC [+]	[19:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00624361 = 6.2436 BTC [+]	[19:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00624362 = 3.1218 BTC [+]	[19:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0063 = 63 BTC [+]	[19:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00635293 = 3.1765 BTC [+]	[20:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0063999 = 3.2 BTC [+]	[20:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.0063999 = 25.5996 BTC [+]	[20:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3800 @ 0.0064 = 24.32 BTC [+]	[20:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065037 = 2.8102 BTC [-]	[20:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00065046 = 3.8241 BTC [+]	[20:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194985 = 0.9749 BTC [+]	[20:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00194986 = 0.9749 BTC [+]	[20:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2300 @ 0.00195 = 4.485 BTC [+]	[20:02]
jurov	EskimoBob, then why people were again and again sticking to use hyperinflating currencies to do payments irl?	[20:03]
Bugpowdurr	for fuch sake	[20:03]
Bugpowdurr	S.BBET for .00195	[20:03]
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Bugpowdurr	are people insane?	[20:03]
jurov	bitcoin is nowhere near such volatility	[20:03]
Bugpowdurr	;;calc https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=2/3000000/.00195&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8	[20:04]
gribble	Error: invalid syntax (, line 1)	[20:04]
mod6	Bugpowdurr: people said the same thing when S.MPOE hit .00015	[20:04]
Bugpowdurr	;;calc 2/3000000/.00195	[20:04]
gribble	0.00034188034188	[20:04]
Bugpowdurr	0.03% dividend	[20:05]
Bugpowdurr	noice	[20:05]
mod6	lol, its been like 1 month man.	[20:05]
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Bugpowdurr	I guess I should have not sold :-P	[20:05]
mod6	look at it this way, it wasn't a loss, and they covered the additional expenses, and STILL paid a ~2 BTC dividend	[20:05]
mod6	in less then 1 month	[20:05]
jurov	ppl expect it to have similar revenue to sdice soon	[20:06]
Bugpowdurr	ppl are idiots	[20:06]
Bugpowdurr	there is zero chance of that happening	[20:06]
Bugpowdurr	unless S.DICE shuts down	[20:06]
mod6	IPO was on Jan 11	[20:06]
jurov	why not?	[20:06]
ThickerThanThiev	zero chance is a bit extreme	[20:06]
Bugpowdurr	well	[20:06]
ThickerThanThiev	it is a betting site after all	[20:06]
mod6	S.DICE IPO was on Aug. 24	[20:06]
Bugpowdurr	I also think S.DICE is overvalued ATM too	[20:07]
Bugpowdurr	probably looking at 4000 BTC / mo	[20:07]
Bugpowdurr	from here	[20:07]
Bugpowdurr	but	[20:07]
Bugpowdurr	hey, growth could occur.	[20:07]
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jurov	even with 4k/month sdice divs would be attractive	[20:07]
Bugpowdurr	;;calc 4000/100000000/.0064	[20:08]
gribble	0.00625	[20:08]
Bugpowdurr	0.6% on something that could get DoJ'd?	[20:08]
jurov	;;calc 0.00625*12	[20:08]
gribble	0.075	[20:08]
jurov	7.5% yearly... and how exactly it will get DoJ'd?	[20:09]
ThickerThanThiev	^	[20:09]
Bugpowdurr	Erik gets charged.	[20:10]
jurov	you mean domain seizure? like it worket in TPB's case?	[20:10]
Bugpowdurr	spooks the market	[20:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064847 = 2.802 BTC [-]	[20:10]
jurov	last i checked tpb is alive and kicking	[20:10]
Bugpowdurr	panic sell	[20:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00064844 = 4.4606 BTC [-]	[20:10]
Bugpowdurr	down to .001	[20:10]
Bugpowdurr	that's how I imagine it might go.	[20:10]
jurov	Bugpowdurr then you'll stop bitching about the price i hope	[20:10]
Bugpowdurr	lol	[20:10]
ThickerThanThiev	hehe	[20:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.006 = 1.44 BTC [-]	[20:10]
Bugpowdurr	Can you tell I sold all my S.BBET and S.DICE :)	[20:11]
jcpham	gigavps: http://i.imgur.com/iltirS0.png fan finally died	[20:14]
maximian	I think any DOJ scenario is a ways off	[20:14]
maximian	They take their time investigating	[20:14]
maximian	however, Erik really should sell S.DICE well beforehand	[20:14]
Bugpowdurr	I agree its a ways off	[20:15]
maximian	sell it at 0.008 to some gaming concern in Gibraltar or Macau	[20:15]
Bugpowdurr	yeah	[20:15]
ThickerThanThiev	.008 seems low	[20:16]
ThickerThanThiev	.2	[20:16]
Bugpowdurr	;;calc .0088700000025	[20:16]
gribble	17400000	[20:16]
ThickerThanThiev	20mil	[20:16]
Bugpowdurr	yeah	[20:16]
ThickerThanThiev	(usd)	[20:16]
Bugpowdurr	uhhh	[20:16]
Bugpowdurr	I'd take that deal	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	Is there any chance of Obsi making some kind of magical payback? Any news on him? << nope.	[20:16]
maximian	I think 17.4M would be a fair price	[20:17]
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maximian	(USD)	[20:17]
jurov	fuck, why is my phone so hot and slowly charging? oh, left mtgoxlive open :/	[20:17]
maximian	Great way for a big gaming co to get a quick presence in bitcoinland	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	maximian the thing is, once one of them figuresd it out, all do	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	so the only way is either it be ignored or else bidwar.	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6021 @ 0.00064844 = 3.9043 BTC [-]	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	if there's a bidwar anything under 100mn is a joke.	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5373 @ 0.00063749 = 3.4252 BTC [-]	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28093 @ 0.00063748 = 17.9087 BTC [-]	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4103 @ 0.00063683 = 2.6129 BTC [-]	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24610 @ 0.00063606 = 15.6534 BTC [-]	[20:18]
maximian	possibly	[20:18]
maximian	I wonder if evoorhees has put any thought into it	[20:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006503 = 2.8099 BTC [+]	[20:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16718 @ 0.00065046 = 10.8744 BTC [+]	[20:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065034 = 2.8101 BTC [-]	[20:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1407 @ 0.00065046 = 0.9152 BTC [+]	[20:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.0006473 = 2.5568 BTC [-]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064009 = 2.7658 BTC [-]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11664 @ 0.00064008 = 7.4659 BTC [-]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13301 @ 0.00063606 = 8.4602 BTC [-]	[20:36]
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gigavps	jcpham :(	[20:42]
gigavps	time for warranty replacement	[20:43]
maximian	So far this month, S.DICE has earned 6644 BTC as far as I can tell by dooglus' reports, which would imply ~16K profit for the month… does that seem right?	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	why would it imply 16k ?	[20:44]
maximian	just a simple projection	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	a	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	too spikey tho. it can go +x thousand in one day	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	or wallow for however long	[20:45]
maximian	yeah	[20:45]
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maximian	most of last month's revenue came really late in the month	[20:45]
Pucilowski	is there a transaction fee to trading on mpex?	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	ya but that was ny	[20:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006416 = 2.7724 BTC [+]	[20:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064154 = 5.3248 BTC [-]	[20:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4139 @ 0.00063606 = 2.6327 BTC [-]	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	o no, wait, im thinking of the other month	[20:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 407 @ 0.00063526 = 0.2586 BTC [-]	[20:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10933 @ 0.0006352 = 6.9446 BTC [-]	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	Pucilowski 0.2% seller side.	[20:46]
Pucilowski	i see, thanks	[20:46]
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Bugpowdurr	maximian, it implies 9k for the month	[20:50]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063723 = 2.7535 BTC [+]	[20:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11936 @ 0.00063693 = 7.6024 BTC [-]	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	how did yo ufigure 9k ?	[20:56]
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ThickerThanThiev	more like 16k	[20:58]
ThickerThanThiev	but like you said, it could stay flat from here	[20:59]
jurov	nope. it's 120k	[20:59]
ThickerThanThiev	?	[20:59]
ThickerThanThiev	sdice profit?	[20:59]
jurov	just joking	[20:59]
ThickerThanThiev	ah	[21:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3861 @ 0.00063693 = 2.4592 BTC [-]	[21:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8889 @ 0.0006352 = 5.6463 BTC [-]	[21:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0061 = 6.1 BTC [+]	[21:00]
gribble	1 BTC = 25.57047 U.S. dollars = 19.1123926 Euros	[21:00]
Bugpowdurr	It will stay flat from here	[21:02]
jurov	did you actually bet? or just speaking in vain?	[21:02]
jurov	http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/	[21:03]
Bugpowdurr	I predict volume of ~2000 BTC / day for the rest of the month	[21:03]
Bugpowdurr	umm	[21:03]
Bugpowdurr	I mean	[21:03]
Bugpowdurr	100-150BTC revenue a day for the rest of the month	[21:04]
Bugpowdurr	however, another spike of up to 3000BTC is possible.	[21:04]
kakobreklaa	;;ticker	[21:04]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.57047, Best ask: 25.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02953, Last trade: 25.60000, 24 hour volume: 56715.11409378, 24 hour low: 24.00600, 24 hour high: 25.80000, 24 hour vwap: 24.96823	[21:04]
Bugpowdurr	beyond that, I think is unlikely.	[21:04]
Bugpowdurr	Due to the BTC remaining in the whale addresses.	[21:04]
Bugpowdurr	If those addresses get more coins, of course I will reevaluate my prediction and my S.DICE positioning.	[21:05]
jurov	i predict sunshine, snow or rain. anything beyond that is unlikely :D	[21:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 670 @ 0.0061 = 4.087 BTC [+]	[21:05]
Bugpowdurr	but most likely outcome is 9k.	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	jesus the scams on bitcointalk never end	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143552.0	[21:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8620 @ 0.00063414 = 5.4663 BTC [-]	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	used to be that picostocks thing had the cake of most brazen bullshit, but check out that shit.	[21:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00612297 = 8.5722 BTC [+]	[21:14]
jurov	lmao btcjam thinks about "limiting number of active loans per user".. as if that would help anything	[21:18]
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jurov	and https://strikesapphire.com/ tells me "proxy detected - to ensure we don't accept users from jurisdictions where online gambling isn't allowed"	[21:20]
jurov	what a bs, whatever i have here on port 80 is fine with freenode proxy checker, but not for them	[21:21]
iz	lol	[21:22]
iz	freenode isn't taking your money for gambling	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.006399 = 6.399 BTC [+]	[21:24]
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jurov	but they do check rigorously for open proxies	[21:27]
iz	yeah, but that's for anti-spamming, not to cover their asses legally	[21:28]
maximian	bugpowder: I see. well, hopefully the whale comes back. He spoiled us for a while there!	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[21:28]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598091 / 0.00625286 / 0.0064 (34005 shares, 212.63 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00608436 / 0.00677999 (3373219 shares, 20,523.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00557722 / 0.0075 (8359458 shares, 46,622.54 BTC)	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 557722 * .13 / 12	[21:29]
gribble	6041.98833333	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	actually, as long as sdice makes 6k btc a month it covers inflation.	[21:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40120001 = 401.2 BTC [-]	[21:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5367 @ 0.00065046 = 3.491 BTC [+]	[21:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065614 = 2.8352 BTC [+]	[21:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16159 @ 0.00065615 = 10.6027 BTC [+]	[21:35]
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SpNg	are S.DICE financials all denominated in BTC?	[21:39]
jurov	iz, what's the difference, really? either i do have open proxy here or not	[21:40]
jurov	SpNg: yes . and they won't touch fiat at all	[21:40]
maximian	SpNg: yes, and here's last month's P&L statement: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dHB2dVdiaEltUHAtTWlBcFhXQVBYeGc#gid=0	[21:41]
SpNg	jurov: ok, good to know.	[21:41]
Bugpowdurr	bid wall at 25.70!	[21:41]
SpNg	maximian: I found that yesterday. S.DICE is doing pretty well ;-)	[21:41]
maximian	yep, it's a great business	[21:41]
Bugpowdurr	blarg... ask wall at 25.80	[21:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40063855 = 400.6386 BTC [-]	[21:42]
SpNg	maximian: I'm surprised it's doing that amount of business too. The concept is fairly straight forward. Growth has been amazing on it too	[21:42]
ThickerThanThiev	another boring revenue day for sdice	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	i see the puts are moving	[21:43]
ThickerThanThiev	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1522277#msg1522277	[21:43]
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mircea_popescu	interesting graph. blue a little lower black a little higher ?	[21:44]
maximian	revenue goes up in bursts	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	that's new isn't it ? usually 4 and under drives the profits.	[21:44]
Bugpowdurr	usually 4 and over drives profits	[21:49]
Bugpowdurr	but there was 1 guy recently that was just hammering 1 and 2 BTC bets on many different levels	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[21:51]
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Bugpowdurr	I wonder if its the same guy shorting the 350s that got burned last time...	[21:56]
Bugpowdurr	Seems premature to short the puts, IMHO	[21:56]
Bugpowdurr	h	[21:56]
Bugpowdurr	hurrr. actually ok	[21:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.40063855 = 400.6386 BTC [-]	[21:57]
Bugpowdurr	premature to BUY puts :-P	[21:57]
Bugpowdurr	how yah	[21:57]
Bugpowdurr	its him	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if with his luck we should be scared.	[21:57]
Bugpowdurr	lol	[21:57]
Bugpowdurr	how to lose 4,500BTC in 24 hours or less	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	what's that, the 3rd k ?	[21:58]
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Bugpowdurr	ya	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how long he goes at it this time	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	like, pound bot continuously till opex ?	[21:58]
alphaguru	sup	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	moar like soup	[22:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.40161617 BTC [+]	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065247 = 2.8193 BTC [-]	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00065264 = 7.2443 BTC [+]	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00065342 = 8.8865 BTC [+]	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00065615 = 1.3641 BTC [+]	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5680 @ 0.00063414 = 3.6019 BTC [-]	[22:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063397 = 2.7394 BTC [-]	[22:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5099 @ 0.00063396 = 3.2326 BTC [-]	[22:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]	[22:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.39895687 = 398.9569 BTC [-]	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	well on the positive side i think mpex monthly volume is at a new record	[22:04]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0060123 = 6.0123 BTC [-]	[22:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00063396 = 2.1561 BTC [-]	[22:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063282 = 2.7344 BTC [-]	[22:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19711 @ 0.00063281 = 12.4733 BTC [-]	[22:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 730 @ 0.0061 = 4.453 BTC [+]	[22:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.39895687 = 398.9569 BTC [-]	[22:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064192 = 2.7737 BTC [+]	[22:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00064225 = 2.2986 BTC [+]	[22:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0062 = 62 BTC [+]	[22:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063407 = 2.7398 BTC [-]	[22:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00063437 = 4.681 BTC [+]	[22:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3997 @ 0.00063437 = 2.5356 BTC [+]	[22:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4037 @ 0.00063281 = 2.5547 BTC [-]	[22:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063187 = 2.7303 BTC [-]	[22:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063186 = 3.9175 BTC [-]	[22:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12542 @ 0.00063131 = 7.9179 BTC [-]	[22:35]
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gribble	1 BTC = 25.64900 U.S. dollars = 19.171089 Euros	[22:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1324 @ 0.00063437 = 0.8399 BTC [+]	[22:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064219 = 2.7749 BTC [+]	[22:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7323 @ 0.0006422 = 4.7028 BTC [+]	[22:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064202 = 2.7742 BTC [-]	[22:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064205 = 2.7743 BTC [+]	[22:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00064225 = 3.2485 BTC [+]	[22:58]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11681 @ 0.00064225 = 7.5021 BTC [+]	[23:01]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0224 = 0.224 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0223 = 0.223 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0222 = 0.222 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0221 = 0.221 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.022 = 1.1 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.0216 = 0.324 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 13 @ 0.0215 = 0.2795 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0214 = 0.1712 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0213 = 0.2556 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0212 = 0.212 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]	[23:08]
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ThickAsThieves	ASICMINER testing? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1522065#msg1522065	[23:15]
Diablo-D3	MY PENIS IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW.	[23:16]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[23:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.0062 = 20.15 BTC [+]	[23:17]
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Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: nope.	[23:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+]	[23:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.0006441 = 11.626 BTC [+]	[23:24]
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Bugpowdurr	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143588.msg1510029;boardseen#new	[23:26]
Bugpowdurr	??	[23:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.73600002 = 7.36 BTC [-]	[23:27]
Diablo-D3	!ticker	[23:27]
assbot	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?	[23:27]
Diablo-D3	;;ticker	[23:27]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 25.52099, Best ask: 25.59999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07900, Last trade: 25.60000, 24 hour volume: 58636.80403702, 24 hour low: 24.28002, 24 hour high: 25.82767, 24 hour vwap: 25.11691	[23:27]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: no?	[23:27]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: I did the math, batch #3 avalon is too late	[23:27]
Diablo-D3	they'd have to cut the price in half and/or double the performance	[23:27]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowdurr hurrr	[23:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24835 @ 0.00065303 = 16.218 BTC [+]	[23:30]
jurov	i should post mircea's words to the wall thread.. maybe he meant 200k BTC, not 200 :D	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[23:34]
mircea_popescu	im not on mtgox, and it wasn't me.	[23:34]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu has like half the bitcoins in all existence	[23:35]
Diablo-D3	and like 3 bitches, at least 3	[23:35]
jurov	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1522320#msg1522320	[23:35]
Diablo-D3	one for the cleaning, one for the cooking, and one for the blowjobbing.	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	i would like to address this question at this time.	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	i do not has half the bitcoins	[23:36]
jurov	You know, we're open to North Korea but we don't get any players from there either. It's not my problem.	[23:36]
jurov	mircea_popescu but that won't stop me joking	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	that thread is getting like a life of its own huh	[23:37]
jurov	so if you talk with lawyer you'll end up with online casino for north koreans	[23:37]
jurov	that's what the doos is trying to say or?	[23:37]
jurov	*dood	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	jurov you know, he totally owned you	[23:38]
mod6	Inaba is dumb.	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	if you were american it;'d work	[23:39]
Diablo-D3	inaba isnt dumb as much as well paid	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	course now you tell him you're from slovakistan...	[23:39]
jurov	no i;ll prolly ask him whether there aren't sanctions for trade with north korea, too	[23:40]
jurov	like they do with cuba	[23:40]
jurov	or iran	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	hello sir i tell you absolutely no trok at all!	[23:40]
jurov	?	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	it's this histerical video one sec	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA	[23:41]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0062 = 0.062 BTC [-]	[23:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0061 = 0.061 BTC [-]	[23:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00607 = 0.0971 BTC [-]	[23:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00599414 = 4.1959 BTC [-]	[23:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00599414 = 4.7953 BTC [-]	[23:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00065303 = 17.893 BTC [+]	[23:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[23:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064537 = 1.807 BTC [-]	[23:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.0006441 = 16.3923 BTC [-]	[23:57]

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