Forum logs for 11 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Well the ones I asked some Indian kid to do for money and then diginork beat him to the prize when he no-show'd [00:04]
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danielpbarron i have instructions on compiling ssss-0.5 on OpenBSD 5.5 if anyone is interested [00:07]
bounce submit it as a port? [00:10]
danielpbarron ;;rated gilgameshugga [00:11]
gribble You rated user gilgameshugga on Sat Jul 19 13:35:03 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: figured out how to compile ssss-0.5 on openBSD5.5 for a 0.1 BTC bounty http://danielpbarron.com/ssss/openBSD5.5.asc.txt. [00:11]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell princessnell cazalla ! [00:14]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:14]
cazalla she sent an email so it's all good [00:14]
mircea_popescu a cool [00:15]
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mircea_popescu quite clever IMO, but no dice. sovereign immunity. << exactly. [00:17]
mircea_popescu now if only someone made a site that wasn';t a retarded ball of javascript [00:19]
mircea_popescu what is with these people, seriously. [00:19]
kakobrekla who? [00:20]
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mircea_popescu google has this "document" format that's basically just a bunch of spurious javascript [00:20]
mircea_popescu then everyone copied it. casetext.com in this exampole [00:21]
mircea_popescu but there's a bunch of them. the retarded crowd that does videos instead of articles tends to send links to them instead of plain text. [00:21]
bounce "REST" is all the rage these days, and is obviously a fine and good excuse to push off all the processing into the client (and thereby reinventing just about everything, badly), instead of, oh, having the server process all that or just serving up the content right away. [00:23]
penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/liberty-reserve-founder-arthur-budovsk-extradited/ [00:23]
mircea_popescu fuck them with a used toilet brush [00:24]
mircea_popescu and fuck whoever came up with the soap-rest false dichotomy, too. [00:25]
bounce ah, of course it's extra-doubly-criminal if you are a /former/ american doing all that outside of the US [00:25]
mircea_popescu huh ? [00:27]
bounce ``The founder of Liberty Reserve, a virtual currency used by cybercriminals around the world to launder proceeds of their illegal activity, was extradited from Spain and arrived in the United States this afternoon.'' -- so, uhm, why aren't they even investigating the current owners and propagators of that much more widely currency used by criminals, "cyber" and otherwise, world-wide? [00:27]
mircea_popescu because this guy passed his things off as dollars [00:28]
mircea_popescu something anyone with any sense could have told him will never float unless he also has an army. [00:28]
bounce did he? oh dear. [00:28]
mircea_popescu yeah, he did [00:28]
mircea_popescu and it was pretty derpy/insane to boot. i mean literally, going by shops, telling random people that hey, this is as much a dollar as that. [00:29]
BingoBoingo As far as I understand it Liberty Reserve was basically just Dollar Hawala, except derpier [00:30]
mircea_popescu well no, it was Bollar, like Bucci [00:30]
penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-antonopolous-testifies-before-canadian-senate-committee/ [00:30]
mircea_popescu cazalla dude this chick can write. let it not be said all qntra articles are short ever again lol [00:31]
cazalla i know eh [00:32]
bounce though even if he'd shouted high and low it was something else entirely that just happened to carry the exact same unit value as a us dollar they'd still hang him on the nearest tree of accusations. they're like that. any old excuse will do. [00:32]
mircea_popescu "SENATOR GERSTEIN (1:50:40) Mr. Antonopolous, your reputation preceded you prior to your arrival. You may recall that in my introductory remarks, I did not introduce you as a Bitcoin guru, but as THE Bitcoin guru. I think that I could speak on behalf of all of the members of the committee in saying that you have more than lived up to that reputation. We greatly appreciate your presentation today. Thank you very much, t [00:32]
mircea_popescu his meeting is concluded." [00:32]
mircea_popescu this should be in the record. [00:32]
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mircea_popescu gerstein addressing known shill, scammer and general clueless derp : "you're just like us! we love you here!" [00:32]
bounce birds of a feather [00:32]
mircea_popescu bounce looky, counterfactuals aren't factuals. [00:32]
mircea_popescu or in romanian, "daca si cu parca se plimbau cu-o barca. daca daca nu era, parca parca se-neca". [00:33]
mircea_popescu if and seems like were rowing in a boat. if if weren't there, seems like seems like'd have drowned. [00:33]
cazalla some quantcast stats are up https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net [00:34]
assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [00:34]
mircea_popescu not bad. [00:36]
BingoBoingo Oh Quantcast and WP stats are pretty similar in the numbers [00:36]
mircea_popescu 940,806 US rank < straight in the top 1m hehe [00:37]
mircea_popescu ftr, coindesk is estimated around 20k ish daily. [00:38]
mircea_popescu ie, you're already 2-3% [00:38]
BingoBoingo https://www.quantcast.com/top-sites << Who could #7 be? [00:40]
assbot Quantcast - Top Ranking International Websites [00:40]
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BingoBoingo http://www.wired.com/2014/10/silk-road-judge-technicality/ [00:53]
assbot Judge Rejects Defense That FBI Illegally Hacked Silk RoadOn a Technicality | WIRED [00:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00073978 = 39.0234 BTC [-] {3} [00:53]
thickasthieves "Ulbricht hadn’t sufficiently demonstrated that the server belonged to him, and thus can’t claim that his privacy rights were violated by its search. " [00:58]
thickasthieves he hasnt admitted guilt, so he cant be innocent [00:58]
thickasthieves fuck me... [00:58]
midnightmagic 14:30 <+mircea_popescu> gerstein addressing known shill, scammer and general clueless derp : "you're just like us! we love you here!" << thank you [00:58]
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kanzure did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated? [01:02]
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thickasthieves he'd need to admit the server was his first [01:04]
thickasthieves it's a fucking joke [01:05]
midnightmagic it's an absurdity [01:06]
midnightmagic must the neighbour give testimoney that the police were trespassing to invalidate an apprehension? trespass is presumed, not proven. [01:07]
BingoBoingo The judge alledges he could have claimed ownership in a way that wouldn't be a confession, but which would have effectively made his taking the stand either have to end in a confession or perjury [01:07]
thickasthieves it's absurd [01:07]
thickasthieves i'm mad [01:07]
midnightmagic the form of an investigation is almost the entirety of whether justice is served [01:08]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the technicality known as "technically, i gotta eat, and these people are paying for it." [01:22]
BingoBoingo !b 1 [01:22]
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mircea_popescu !up maximian [01:22]
-assbot- You voiced maximian for 30 minutes. [01:22]
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mats_cd03 ;;nethash [01:23]
gribble 261049969.639 [01:23]
[]bot Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "BTC tops all time high before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/1033/ Odds: 21(Y):79(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.28503498 BTC. Current weight: 59,896. [01:24]
BingoBoingo mega lolz https://twitter.com/CoinFireBlog/status/520699230156226560 [01:26]
assbot ./koinify announced the addition of ./VinnyLingham to the advisory board and ./ofnumbers as a mentor: http://t.co/K4vpqjgrHX [01:26]
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mircea_popescu “The government posits two standards of behavior: one for private citizens, who must adhere to a strict standard of conduct construed by the government,” read a final filing Tuesday. “The other for the government, which, with its elastic ability to effect electronic intrusion, can deliberately, cavalierly, and unrepentantly transgress those same standards.” [01:27]
mircea_popescu that part at least is worth taking away. [01:28]
mircea_popescu the very definition of a rogue state is "one which construes itself more powerful than the private citizen" [01:28]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you going to make that court document scan a text btw ? [01:33]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah [01:33]
BingoBoingo 38 pages so I'll txt it a bit different. .txt file to download [01:34]
mircea_popescu textifying all the pdfs/scans idiots dump online, as well as textifying audio/video are very legitimates avenues for qntra to add value [01:34]
mircea_popescu automate as much of it as possible and then automate the remainder. twice. [01:34]
mircea_popescu got any good ocr and sound to text software atm ? [01:34]
mircea_popescu and prolly best to make it a page rather than a txt file. people want what they want when they click. [01:35]
mircea_popescu not after a dld and a notepad or w/e they use. [01:35]
mircea_popescu besides, html. [01:35]
mircea_popescu !up Takeshi [01:37]
-assbot- You voiced Takeshi for 30 minutes. [01:37]
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mircea_popescu okay. [01:37]
mircea_popescu what is wcn anyway ? [01:37]
penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/judge-forrest-rejects-illegal-search-defense-in-ulbricht-case/ [01:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> and prolly best to make it a page rather than a txt file. people want what they want when they click. << Updated this one now to have both [01:40]
mircea_popescu worx [01:40]
BingoBoingo got any good ocr and sound to text software atm ? << Dunno of any yet [01:41]
mircea_popescu but im serious about the ocr and the text to speech. it can do the bulk of the work. [01:41]
mircea_popescu gives you a significant advantage. [01:41]
mircea_popescu iirc asciilifeform mentioned some pdf textualizer in the logs ? [01:41]
BingoBoingo Oh, I found a pdf textualizer, but I dunno if it handles pdfs that are just photographs of text yet [01:42]
mircea_popescu you seriously should spend a week or w/e it takes trying out ocrs and voice recognition tools and whatnot, because going forward this will remain an issue [01:42]
BingoBoingo It's going on the agenda. [01:43]
mircea_popescu being able to take a turd and turn it into readable content within an hour or a day, and being able to so process gigabytes of crud a month is, by itself, more barrier to entry than all the collective "press" has [01:43]
mircea_popescu and i don't mean coindeks. i mean wired [01:43]
mircea_popescu and if you get it to where you have to fix a letter per ten words you're way way ahead of someone who has to press pause every five seconds [01:44]
mircea_popescu not that anyone actually even exists in the cloud of vaporized shit comprising the kids-of-www that even has the drive or the intellectual werewithal to take down an hour of speech or an acre of blackboard anyway. [01:44]
mircea_popescu you'd think everyone's got a college degree means they are god damned good at exactly that. but... [01:45]
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BingoBoingo Yeah, so far most of the deturdified text has been low hanging fruit, but automating the hard stuff is going to be nice sauce [01:52]
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mircea_popescu definitely. [01:54]
mircea_popescu and i mean, i can tell anjie didn't sleep to do that one, which is exactly what she should have done, but once. [01:55]
cazalla have not finished reading logs but the thing i do not like about the txt version is that it's difficult to read unless it's formatted correctly [01:55]
mircea_popescu you can't have people do this by hand forever. [01:55]
cazalla i don't see the value in just copying to a post without making it readable [01:55]
mircea_popescu cazalla the point being that it's easier to format/spellcheck a predeturdified turd than to write from scratch [01:55]
cazalla better to link to a txt than include it in post than imo [01:57]
bounce formatting html or actual text? latter case, "fmt" or "par" (not par2, entirely different beast) might help [01:57]
mircea_popescu fmt is a good idea yeah [01:57]
mircea_popescu cazalla why ? [01:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00073834 = 4.2085 BTC [-] [02:00]
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Takeshi https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork WCN is a youtube channel . [02:00]
assbot World Crypto Network - YouTube [02:00]
mircea_popescu aha cool. [02:00]
mircea_popescu ok, so go ahead. [02:01]
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kakobrekla mircea_popescu your dead man is live on that chan [02:04]
kakobrekla hehe [02:04]
mircea_popescu wait, wut ? [02:04]
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kakobrekla AA [02:05]
kakobrekla currently live on WCN [02:05]
mircea_popescu lol cool [02:05]
BingoBoingo OMG Zombies! [02:06]
mthreat mircea_popescu: $200 and $500 peso notes coming? http://www.ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=762332 [02:06]
assbot Esbozos de billetes de $ 200 y $ 500 - Ambito.com [02:06]
mthreat it's about time, I guess. $100 pesos is worth 7 dollars [02:06]
mircea_popescu they're behind the times, should be 1k 2k and 5k [02:06]
mircea_popescu more like 6. [02:06]
mthreat i'm a week behind then ;) [02:07]
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mircea_popescu ;;rated cazalla [02:07]
gribble You rated user cazalla on Wed Apr 16 22:29:03 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood.. [02:07]
mircea_popescu ;;rate cazalla 2 qntra.net chief editor. [02:07]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user cazalla has changed from 1 to 2. [02:07]
mthreat ;;rate mircea_popescu 3 Lunch & drinks in Buenos Aires [02:10]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [02:10]
mthreat bah [02:10]
mircea_popescu ;;rated mthreat [02:10]
gribble You rated user mthreat on Sat Jun 21 05:42:17 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Awesome search ; coffee. [02:10]
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mthreat ;;rate mircea_popescu 3 Lunch & drinks in Buenos Aires [02:11]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. [02:11]
mthreat finally I rated someone [02:11]
mircea_popescu lol wd. [02:11]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ [02:11]
kakobrekla +2 boohoo [02:11]
mircea_popescu what are you at yet anyway, 90something ? [02:13]
kakobrekla dunno [02:13]
BingoBoingo ;;getratings kakobrekla [02:17]
gribble Error: "getratings" is not a valid command. [02:17]
bounce it's the obvious and easily typed "ratingsystem getrating" [02:20]
* bounce would demonstrate but gribble has been forgetful again [02:20]
thestringpuller ;;gettrust nanotube mtgox [02:22]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mtgox: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 38 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mtgox | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mtgox | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:35:39 2010 [02:22]
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BingoBoingo ;;ratingsystem getrating kakobrekla [02:25]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 148, from 77 total ratings. Received ratings: 77 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 78 positive, 6 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla [02:25]
BingoBoingo Oic [02:26]
thestringpuller nice find [02:26]
kakobrekla ;;getrating kakobrekla [02:26]
gribble Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating [02:26]
kakobrekla heh [02:26]
mike_c <+mircea_popescu> you can't have people do this by hand forever. << that might be the easiest solution actually. set up some amazon mechanical turk automation. [02:31]
thestringpuller !ticker h am1 [02:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.13500000 / 0.13812501 / 0.14000001 (8 shares, 1.10500004 BTC), 7D: 0.10010000 / 0.13283625 / 0.19210002 (1410 shares, 187.29910975 BTC), 30D: 0.10000001 / 0.15529865 / 0.26900000 (5423 shares, 842.18456297 BTC) [02:31]
mircea_popescu mike_c i wouldn't trust random fiverr derp not to mess up the words [02:31]
mircea_popescu and seeing how the very purpose of this stuff is for people to be able to do deep searches for impredictable later interests, it'd be less than useful. [02:32]
mike_c but you've got steady work, can find reliable people [02:32]
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mircea_popescu people are not for steady work. machines are for steady work. [02:33]
mircea_popescu people are for unsteady work. [02:33]
mike_c yes, but machines do a crappy job of voice/pdf -> text. maybe the turks are the ones who clean it up. [02:33]
mircea_popescu (it won't scale. if one day i want to do 1tb i can just throw more chickens at it, provided it runs on chickens) [02:33]
mircea_popescu do they still ? [02:33]
mircea_popescu i was hoping 20 years later it's fixed mostly. [02:34]
mircea_popescu how does ziri work or w/e was apple calling its paperclip ? [02:34]
mike_c see the textification qntra did of the defense filing. all chopped up and stuff. [02:34]
mike_c siri doesn't have to produce a readable text though, just understand the gist. [02:35]
mike_c depends how important quality is i guess. but a rough text is painful to read to me. [02:35]
mircea_popescu quality is actulaly pretty important yeah,. [02:37]
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mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfzph5dHs0 << check out the bitcoin evanghelist. [02:50]
assbot Bitcoin Poem #1 - Bitcoin is not - YouTube [02:50]
ben_vulpes http://emojilisp.com/ [02:56]
assbot Emojilisp! [02:56]
ben_vulpes the only language adequate to replace c++ for btc dev [02:57]
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* xanthyos [03:13]
mod6 %ob [03:26]
atcbot 7k@266 99k@255 30k@225 | 4k@185 70k@180 100k@175 [03:26]
mod6 %v [03:27]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 179k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 198 [03:27]
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xanthyos here is a btc-appropriate twitter header picture http://gyazo.com/08b6287de0ba69c0687c38a659d26c9a [03:36]
penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/gamer-currency-hyper-goes-where-bitcoin-cant-into-the-bin/ [03:37]
bounce http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/10/brandson_backs_blockchain_bitcoin_bandwagon/ [03:44]
assbot Beardie Branson backs Blockchain's Bitcoin bandwagon The Register [03:44]
mircea_popescu lol [03:47]
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mircea_popescu mike_c am i not seeing something or do you not mean http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-antonopolous-testifies-before-canadian-senate-committee/ ? seems perfectly ok formatted [03:53]
assbot Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian Senate Committee [03:53]
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mike_c http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbricht-attorneys-file-response-to-government/ [03:54]
assbot Ulbricht Attorneys File Response to Government [03:54]
mike_c text is broken up [03:54]
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mircea_popescu ah ah [03:57]
ben_vulpes cazalla: considered emailing the defense for the unadulterated text? [04:04]
cazalla I think that's more BingoBoingo's department, I don't claim to grasp much of it tbh [04:04]
mircea_popescu not a bad idea, considering they probably want exposure. dubious if it's worth the hassle. [04:05]
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ben_vulpes more hassle on their end, an email on BingoBoingo's. [04:09]
mircea_popescu tru [04:09]
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thickasthieves they want exposure [04:43]
thickasthieves ;;ticker [04:43]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.26, Best ask: 365.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 365.0, 24 hour volume: 21725.59361661, 24 hour low: 351.1, 24 hour high: 380.08, 24 hour vwap: 362.056811116 [04:43]
thickasthieves time for the trip to 400-440 [04:43]
kakobrekla scam [04:46]
thickasthieves ponzi [04:48]
devthedev mircea_popescu: I liked your analogy in regards to the Internet Watch Foundation claim. [04:58]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/strange-in-the-street/ [04:58]
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penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptosnews-join-the-shenanigans-at-startjoin/ [05:10]
cazalla with that, lunch [05:10]
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xanthyos 212926 <@aspirant> i dont like bitcoin [05:42]
xanthyos 212931 <@aspirant> i know almost nothing about it [05:42]
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mircea_popescu !up PinkPosixPXE [05:47]
-assbot- You voiced PinkPosixPXE for 30 minutes. [05:47]
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mircea_popescu xanthyos not a crime [05:48]
assbot zeeeando0oO +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [05:48]
mircea_popescu devthedev_ cool! [05:48]
mircea_popescu !up zeeeando0oO [05:48]
-assbot- You voiced zeeeando0oO for 30 minutes. [05:48]
* assbot gives voice to zeeeando0oO [05:48]
zeeeando0oO thank you [05:48]
mircea_popescu sure. [05:48]
mircea_popescu who're you ? [05:48]
zeeeando0oO I am xiando. [05:51]
zeeeando0oO I am not important. [05:51]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell princessnell http://www.8btc.com/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains check it out, you're big in china [05:51]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:51]
assbot | [05:51]
mircea_popescu ok, so what can we do for you, xiando that is not important ? [05:52]
zeeeando0oO Share secrets. though I already get those by idling. Could I just idle and not be important and talk if I do find anything interesting to share? [05:53]
mircea_popescu yup. [05:54]
mircea_popescu most people ctually do exactly that. [05:54]
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mircea_popescu ;;ident zeeeando0oO [05:59]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'zeeeando0oO', with hostmask 'zeeeando0oO!xiando@irc.xiando.org', is identified as user 'xiando', with GPG key id 3414891E7C2FFCAA, key fingerprint 3DD672BBF97B3C48627AA9DE3414891E7C2FFCAA, and bitcoin address 1Jk4tuV82rUB31s6PUshoMHAJ1fKt5pwjv [05:59]
mircea_popescu ;;rate zeeeando0 1 http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7 [06:00]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [06:00]
assbot [14:13] I'm surprised you actually answer me for once. I did not exp - Pastebin.com [06:00]
mircea_popescu ;;rate xiando 1 http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7 [06:00]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xiando has been recorded. [06:00]
assbot [14:13] I'm surprised you actually answer me for once. I did not exp - Pastebin.com [06:00]
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ben_vulpes pahahaha what the hell [06:01]
mircea_popescu old stories. [06:02]
xiando ;;ident xiando [06:02]
gribble Nick 'xiando', with hostmask 'xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org', is identified as user 'xiando', with GPG key id 3414891E7C2FFCAA, key fingerprint 3DD672BBF97B3C48627AA9DE3414891E7C2FFCAA, and bitcoin address 1Jk4tuV82rUB31s6PUshoMHAJ1fKt5pwjv [06:02]
mircea_popescu xiando you can self-voice by pming assbot !up [06:03]
xiando it keeps telling me I need a better WOT rating [06:03]
ben_vulpes ;;gettrust assbot xiando [06:04]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xiando: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xiando | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xiando | Rated since: Mon Feb 18 08:34:39 2013 [06:04]
ben_vulpes it'll percolate through the mud [06:04]
mircea_popescu xiando i just fixed that above. there's a delay, bout an hour or so, cause multiple cache layers. [06:04]
kakobrekla if gribble sees it, assbot will too. [06:05]
xiando Thank you. [06:05]
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kakobrekla and you really tried just once, before the rating, so wtf. [06:07]
kakobrekla anyway imma go. later [06:07]
mircea_popescu anyway, not that anything karpeles [ever] said can be taken at face value, but admire the difference between mtgox and bitbet when it comes to the position of the usg. perfectly symmetrical, karpeles is "up to the usg" ; usg is up to bitbet. [06:08]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mtgox-freeze-money-absurd-answers-of-support-student-desperate-and-out-option.95502/#post-1613198 << back in the day, before timisoara conference, last weeks of mtgox. [06:09]
assbot Mtgox freeze money, Absurd answers of support, student desperate and out option | Bitcointa.lk [06:09]
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mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByxGzdECIAIHbN7.jpg:large << check out the gall of the aussie bureaucracy [06:18]
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mircea_popescu "this letter can not be used for any purpose". how fucking dare they ? [06:18]
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thickasthieves you are not allowed to read what i say [06:20]
thickasthieves stop [06:21]
mircea_popescu http://identi.fi/id/account/mircea_popescu@bitcoin-otc.com << check out the scrappers ? [06:21]
assbot Identifi - mircea_popescu [06:21]
thickasthieves such css [06:22]
mircea_popescu o wait it's sirius' ?! [06:23]
mircea_popescu ;;ident sirius^ [06:24]
gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. [06:24]
mircea_popescu ;;gpg info sirius [06:24]
gribble No such user registered. [06:24]
mircea_popescu o.O [06:24]
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mircea_popescu Anduck ? [06:24]
thickasthieves "Identifi is an address book application that stores its data in a distributed fashion on the computers of its users. The stored information is not owned or centrally administered by anyone." [06:24]
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mircea_popescu fucking twitter "load stuff on scrolldown" [06:27]
thickasthieves bandwidth strikes again [06:29]
mircea_popescu so apparently it actually is sirius' thing [06:30]
thickasthieves how i sit decentralized? you just compile and dl latest copy of db? [06:31]
thickasthieves with every user being a node or sumth [06:31]
mircea_popescu basically the original creator of tardstalk surreptitiously forked otc [06:32]
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thickasthieves looks like it supports otc, rather than just scraping data, no? [06:33]
mircea_popescu no. [06:33]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there. [06:33]
thickasthieves a future of wots would need to chain wots together right? [06:33]
assbot Rating Details for User 'anduck' [06:33]
thickasthieves each wot having a trust rating with another wot [06:33]
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mircea_popescu but that's not what's happening here. [06:33]
thickasthieves hrm [06:33]
mircea_popescu basically, guy imported the otc wot as-is, is not talking back to it, and is allowing users on his system to log in through shit like facebook, and make ratings. [06:34]
mircea_popescu so it's either an attack or a degenerate reimplementation. one or the other. [06:34]
mircea_popescu course nobody is answering in their otherwise barren support chan. [06:34]
thickasthieves i dont think the facebook part is a crime [06:35]
mircea_popescu http://identi.fi/id/account/theymos%40bitcoin-otc.com << look at that. [06:35]
mircea_popescu depends in what sense. i wouldn't trust someone because htey're "facebook logged in" [06:35]
thickasthieves me either [06:35]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=theymos&sign=ANY&type=RECV << as compared. [06:36]
assbot Rating Details for User 'theymos' [06:36]
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thickasthieves i'd still trust them less for logging in via facebook even if auth'd [06:36]
mircea_popescu basically prima facie the scammers made themselves a bootstrap fake wot. [06:36]
thickasthieves site is hanging now [06:36]
thickasthieves apparently this chan ddos'd it [06:37]
mircea_popescu myeah. [06:37]
mircea_popescu well it went into the logs is the problem [06:37]
mircea_popescu don't tell the seo spammers, but google indexes stuff from the logs in ~1 minute. [06:37]
thickasthieves heh [06:37]
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thickasthieves well we can protect from seo spammers pretty easily [06:38]
The20YearIRCloud protect what? [06:39]
mircea_popescu anyway. i wonder if the long term effect will be to help idiots get familiar with the wot (positive) or to get idiots to think they;re part of the wot on a facebook login based bootstrap website (negative) [06:39]
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mircea_popescu provided of course it survives long enough to matter. [06:39]
ben_vulpes ;;gettrust luke-jr theymos [06:39]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user luke-jr to user theymos: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=luke-jr&dest=theymos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theymos | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:36:30 2010 [06:39]
mircea_popescu https://login.persona.org/sign_in << holy shit, mozila persona ?! [06:40]
assbot Mozilla Persona: A Better Way to Sign In [06:40]
mircea_popescu this thing is evil [06:40]
thickasthieves requires firefox? (errors for me) [06:43]
mircea_popescu it's this mozilla evil. sort-of like the darkemail or w/e that was [06:44]
thickasthieves meh [06:46]
thickasthieves no one will ever use it [06:46]
thickasthieves i cant think why anyone ever would [06:46]
mircea_popescu it was launched in 2011 and abandoned in 2012, but w/e [06:46]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves kinda what irks me. so obviously wasted effort, and a lot of it. i don't think the people in question are actually nefariously motivated, but you'd think old timers'd have more sense. anyway. [06:47]
thickasthieves sometimes these things come back to life as a body part of something decent [06:48]
thickasthieves like maybe that head engineer gets into bitcoin and makes some wot stuff [06:48]
* thickasthieves turns down the hope. [06:48]
mircea_popescu i was talking about the identi.fi thing again [06:48]
mircea_popescu aaanyway. [06:48]
mircea_popescu ruby rots brains, it's obvious by now. [06:49]
thickasthieves i never liked the name [06:49]
thickasthieves which is obv what's important [06:49]
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thickasthieves qntra seems laggy [06:59]
thickasthieves it does this thing where pages dont load but then they do [06:59]
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cazalla seems ok here [07:03]
penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitfilm-festivals-fundraiser-coins-now-available-to-supporters/ [07:03]
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ben_vulpes i live in a weird parallel universe [07:08]
ben_vulpes today one of the contractors gave *me* a joint [07:08]
ben_vulpes "what'd i do to deserve this?!" [07:09]
ben_vulpes "nothing, you're just awesome." [07:09]
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cazalla not much news around today [07:11]
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mircea_popescu not bad ben_vulpes [07:14]
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ben_vulpes we implemented continuous bookkeeping this week [07:17]
ben_vulpes realtime resource tracking across all projects [07:18]
ben_vulpes should save 4 days per month of collating and tabulating timesheets into invoices for clients. [07:18]
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ben_vulpes csv export -> payroll company uploader [07:18]
ben_vulpes "don't keep your timesheet up to date? no paychecks." [07:19]
ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnKuIbKauXk&list=UU4zzTEL5tuIgGMvzjk1Ozbg [07:25]
assbot Hinged negatively curved surfaces - YouTube [07:25]
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thickasthieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iwt5q/in_light_of_the_gentoo_linux_bitcoin_client/ [07:45]
assbot In light of the Gentoo Linux Bitcoin client kerfluffle, I just created a Docker container to quickly & easily build the latest version of bitcoind from source. : Bitcoin [07:45]
thickasthieves http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/10/10/dell-becomes-bitcoin-mining-data-center-provider/ [07:46]
assbot Dell Becomes Bitcoin Mining Data Center Provider | Data Center Knowledge [07:46]
mircea_popescu cazalla ^ :D you were complaining ? [07:47]
cazalla just as people know i'm not recycling shared links here for their consumption [07:48]
mircea_popescu o wow look at that. people using go for something ?! [07:49]
ben_vulpes docker rules [07:50]
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mircea_popescu !s bitcoinasichosting [07:51]
assbot 0 results for 'bitcoinasichosting' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoinasichosting [07:51]
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mircea_popescu thickasthieves apparently this is 2013 ? https://bitcointa.lk/threads/hosting-asic-miner-hosting-insured-opened-2nd-room.139109/ [07:53]
assbot [HOSTING] ASIC Miner Hosting (Insured) - Opened 2nd Room | Bitcointa.lk [07:53]
thickasthieves i dunno [07:55]
mircea_popescu http://bitfundltd.com/ that dalkore dude. such lulz. [07:56]
assbot Welcome to Bitfund Ltd | Bitcoin – Investments – Mining Management – Consulting [07:56]
mircea_popescu i knew i knew who he is. [07:56]
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mircea_popescu wp total cache 8.5.2 (compatible with wp 2.9) ? 250kb. wp total cache 9.4 (compatible with wp 4) ? 1.8mb. [08:21]
mircea_popescu seriously ? why. [08:21]
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penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dell-sells-excess-capacity-to-bitcoin-asic-miner/ [08:24]
cazalla that one is an exclusive [08:24]
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thickasthieves thinking out loud, would it make sense to include ticker symbol for news about public companies? [08:32]
thickasthieves looks weird with "Dell" being the only attribute [08:32]
thickasthieves is it Michael Dell? [08:33]
thickasthieves etc [08:33]
thickasthieves or to say Dell, LLC or whatever [08:33]
cazalla yes, also makes sense to begin citing sources and press releases from company websites i think [08:33]
mats_cd03 minor note dell isn't public anymore [08:34]
thickasthieves word! [08:34]
thickasthieves qntra never told me, so i didnt kno [08:34]
cazalla qntra assumed the reader knew [08:35]
thickasthieves omg i have to know things? [08:35]
thickasthieves scam [08:35]
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mircea_popescu yes, also makes sense to begin citing sources and press releases from company websites i think << yes. [08:40]
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mircea_popescu http://midtownmiscreant.blogspot.com.ar/ << check out annoyed person [09:31]
assbot Midtown Miscreant [09:31]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 36(Y):64(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.9659 BTC. Current weight: 88,524. [09:44]
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Vexual cazalla: not much news around today > piff [10:06]
mircea_popescu cazalla https://www.google.com/search?q=Arthur+Budovsk&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << it's budowsky [10:09]
assbot Arthur Budovsk - Google Search [10:09]
Vexual (incredulous) [10:10]
Vexual hello Mr Popescue [10:12]
mircea_popescu hey & bye! [10:12]
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PeterL hi mircea_popescu [17:09]
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mircea_popescu ello [17:09]
mircea_popescu PeterL sup [17:11]
PeterL I was just asking about deebbot, but I think punkman cleared up my questions [17:12]
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kakobrekla !up Adlai [17:13]
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Adlai oh thanks [17:13]
kakobrekla hi there [17:13]
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kakobrekla o, you are in the wot [17:13]
kakobrekla ;;gettrust assbot Adlai [17:13]
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mircea_popescu Adlai ;;eauth adlai ;;everify adlay "freenode string" [17:14]
Adlai quite weakly so iirc [17:14]
* Adlai hasn't set up GPG auth [17:14]
kakobrekla no rush [17:14]
mircea_popescu Anduck yeah i see that. i was trying to discuss it with sirius last night but he's not very talkative. you involved ? [17:14]
Adlai kakobrekla (~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla): o hey lisp and bitcoins. you might wanna check out #bitcoin-assets [17:15]
mircea_popescu Adlai you can't be in the wot 2 years ago w/o the gpg auth [17:15]
mircea_popescu because they didn't have btc auth back then [17:15]
Adlai then 1.5 years ago? [17:15]
PeterL you still have btc address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj? [17:15]
* Adlai is still digging through old wallet backups [17:15]
mircea_popescu a ok. i dun recall the commands but it's there [17:15]
Adlai PeterL: oh thank you, that should help :) [17:15]
kakobrekla well Adlai , i thought you could be a good fit here [17:15]
* Adlai didn't label it! stupid fucker. [17:16]
mircea_popescu if the wallet is old enough you can just do strings wallet [17:16]
Adlai no worries [17:16]
PeterL with no ratings, it might just be easier to start a new ident? [17:16]
mircea_popescu yeah i think peterl has it. and do yourself a favour and use your gpg sig [17:17]
Adlai oh nice, i even have laxo spam and a blockchain tag already [17:17]
Adlai ;;gettrust assbot Adlai [17:18]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Adlai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Adlai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Adlai | Rated since: never [17:18]
mircea_popescu ;;rate adlai 1 kako and adlai sitting in a tree [17:18]
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Adlai ^_^ [17:18]
kakobrekla ... [17:18]
mircea_popescu ITS NO USE DENAYING IT [17:18]
Adlai l i s p i n g ? [17:18]
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kakobrekla lel! [17:19]
mircea_popescu lol that works [17:19]
* Adlai is still wondering why exactly he was invited here, other than "put odd shit on github" [17:19]
mircea_popescu no, that'd be it. [17:19]
PeterL what did you put on github? [17:19]
mircea_popescu vexual was invited through putting odd shit on pigeons [17:19]
PeterL I don't think I was ever invited [17:19]
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mircea_popescu so how did you end up here ? [17:20]
PeterL dunno, seemed like a better place to hang out than bitcointalk [17:20]
PeterL I havn't been banned yet [17:20]
Adlai https://github.com/adlai/scalpl [17:21]
assbot adlai/scalpl GitHub [17:21]
mircea_popescu slightly different q's tho, how you found it and how come you're sticking around. [17:21]
Adlai well i'm sticking around because i'm hoping to find out what happened to MPEX [17:21]
mircea_popescu Adlai you can always check out the logs, [17:21]
mircea_popescu what do you mean what happened ? [17:22]
punkman love it "Full documentation currently takes the form of idiosyncratic tangled lisp source" [17:22]
PeterL ah, found it? don't remember, probably from references on trilema? [17:22]
mircea_popescu so that's close enough to invited. [17:22]
Adlai well, last time it wasn't loading... now there's some .wsbitcoin thingy and i'm confused [17:23]
* Adlai never had an account, was just curious about it [17:23]
mircea_popescu $proxies [17:23]
Adlai none [17:23]
mircea_popescu hm is FabianB_ s bot down ? [17:23]
Adlai or tor sometimes [17:23]
mircea_popescu tor ? [17:23]
mircea_popescu anyway, adlai : http://mpex.bz/ http://mpex.ws/ etc [17:23]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [17:23]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [17:23]
mircea_popescu there's a bunch of them [17:23]
Adlai oic [17:24]
mircea_popescu in other words nothing has happened to mpex, it's been in continuous operation since whatever, 2011 [17:24]
Adlai right, just some dns hiccups on the one domain that i knew of [17:24]
PeterL mpex tld changes, is part of the "resilience from government shutdown" [17:24]
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Adlai why not just use a decentralized registry? (or is that the .wsbitcoin tld?) [17:25]
mircea_popescu you can also talk to it through bots here, just in case. [17:25]
Adlai oh, mpex.co is working again too! [17:25]
mircea_popescu i think maybe you had a bad cache or something [17:26]
mircea_popescu there've been sporadic reports of mpex.co not working, and i saw it report the wrong ip ONCE [17:26]
mircea_popescu but i never could get it replicated so dunno wtf. [17:26]
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mircea_popescu !s mpex.co [17:27]
assbot 248 results for 'mpex.co' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mpex.co [17:27]
mircea_popescu first line in there. [17:27]
mircea_popescu 2nd line is the proxies list [17:27]
Adlai please forgive the potentially naive question, but do you have any dedicated liquidity providing partners? [17:28]
* Adlai has gotten used to being surprised in all manner of ways in this "ecosystem" [17:28]
BingoBoingo !t m x.eur [17:28]
assbot Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh? [17:28]
mircea_popescu Adlai http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ << this'll give you an idea [17:29]
assbot MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:29]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/ << this is a good companion to that. [17:30]
assbot MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:30]
Adlai interesting, thank you for putting up with my ignorance [17:34]
mircea_popescu punkman: heh " It's your personal cheat sheet for Wall Street-level analysis of Silicon Valley-style companies." << you know, it's interesting to see how closely the www matches the needs, interests and representational abilities of a community college drop-out. [17:35]
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mircea_popescu this "making things accessible to the handicapped" kick is the worst idea ever. not for anything to do with itself, but taken way the fuck too far. [17:35]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel: screens coming shortly. <<< i didn't know you were a video guru :D [17:37]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I could swear the original DOJ Press release didn't have the 'y', but it looks like that has been updated too. <<< budovsk is a strange amount of name for an arthur to have. [17:38]
BingoBoingo Yeah [17:38]
mircea_popescu re reporting on derps and their social justice bullshit : meh. [17:40]
mircea_popescu nobody cares. they like to pretend everyone cares. nobody does. [17:41]
mircea_popescu let cosmo handle that. [17:41]
mircea_popescu all these things with "food bank" and "shelter" and etc only exist because someone wants to fuck a teenager somewhere. so it's a perfect tool to get their social position enforced : unless the owner is actually sucking your cock, on a per article basis, don't mention them. all problems solved and everyone happy thus. [17:42]
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mircea_popescu ;;ident Adlai [17:43]
gribble Nick 'Adlai', with hostmask 'Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai', is identified as user 'Adlai', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj [17:43]
mircea_popescu Adlai : pm assbot !up [17:43]
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Adlai mircea_popescu: ok, reading over those has me thinking a little [17:46]
* Adlai lurks a while [17:46]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla clearly knows what he's doing inviting people here. [17:46]
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mircea_popescu !up disident [17:48]
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Adlai nothing ventured, nothing gained [17:48]
mircea_popescu everybody likes a good ass. [17:49]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate disident 1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867566 [17:52]
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assbot Logged on 10-10-2014 09:07:09; mircea_popescu: so it turns out deedbot got haxed. [17:52]
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mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel: from wikipedia on San Francisco: "The city's homeless population has been estimated at 7,000 10,000 people ... The city spends $200 million a year on homelessness related programs." << that's about 20k a head if you imagine that expenditure is really "for the homeless". [17:57]
mircea_popescu irl, a bunch of spoiled bratty chicks that *should* be working for max hardcore get to pretend like they're important, charitable and good. [17:57]
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mircea_popescu they're not, they're rotten skanks. [17:57]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: that's about 20k a head if you imagine that expenditure is really "for the homeless". << Just think if they gave each homeless their aid cost for three years to move to Ohio... They'd be homed [17:59]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level. [18:00]
assbot dpaste: 32HWXTT [18:00]
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BingoBoingo ;;later tell cazalla BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level. [18:01]
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Anduck mircea_popescu: nope not involved, just tested it a bit [18:08]
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RagnarDanneskjol http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2220824-college-football-picks-week-7-predictions-for-every-game [18:15]
assbot College Football Picks: Week 7 Predictions for Every Game | Bleacher Report [18:15]
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BingoBoingo http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides.php [18:18]
assbot Things I Won't Work With: Peroxide Peroxides. In the Pipeline: [18:18]
BingoBoingo %v [18:25]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 179k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 198 [18:25]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021835 B (Total: 477.49 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-] [18:25]
thickasthieves cazalla, thinking out loud, it might be worth reporting on KateCraigWoods defaulting on her bonds and offering everyone a raw deal, stripeykitteh is pursuing it legally i think, info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg8732682#msg8732682 ----- and here -----https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.0 [18:38]
assbot [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR [18:38]
thickasthieves I also have some of the emails with her statements if you want sources [18:38]
thickasthieves i dont think anyone has reported it yet, nor Deprived's leaving (he is connected via the bonds) [18:39]
thickasthieves overall represents XXXX btc lost [18:40]
mircea_popescu Anduck aha okies [18:42]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:42]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 354.04, Best ask: 355.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 355.19, 24 hour volume: 11322.01271794, 24 hour low: 352.1, 24 hour high: 368.06, 24 hour vwap: 358.275992462 [18:42]
kakobrekla lolol that letter from kate or whoever is fuckin hilarious [18:42]
kakobrekla CM was described as a "virtual company” by LTC-Global (and accordingly referred to as such in the CM Business Plan). However, as a matter of English law, CM may be considered a general partnership. If that is the case, then the 'shareholders' of CM - which includes yourself - would all be considered partners. As partners, they would all be jointly and severally liable for CM's debts, including the 'Bond'. It is therefore possible tha [18:43]
kakobrekla t 'bondholders' may seek to take legal action against CM's 'shareholders', including yourself, to seek to recover that debt. However, if 'bondholders' accept the restructure plan proposed below, that risk might be mitigated. [18:43]
kakobrekla ! [18:43]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/ this ? [18:43]
assbot The stuple. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [18:43]
mircea_popescu "24/12/13 Countdown reset due to delays, mailshot has copies of screenshots…merry xmas all ; 13/12/13 Sadly the beta release we wanted will be delayed by a week or so, more details in the newsletter ; 27/11/13 We have the gui wireframes back from designers.." [18:43]
mircea_popescu is it gonna be xmas 2014? [18:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 1.96647948 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 171 satoshi per share [19:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.13477034 BTC to 15`798 shares, 7183 satoshi per share [19:04]
mircea_popescu reading up on the me komet. jesus christ, a peroxide powered rocketplane that throws off its landing gear at takeoff, lands by sliding, unpowered and unsteered. [19:16]
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mircea_popescu and it glides so well that if you catch an updrift trying to land you're gone, and can't make a goround because unpowered. [19:16]
mircea_popescu now THAT should be an experience in flying, eh mthreat ? [19:17]
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penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/11/the-six-pillars-for-surviving-in-computer-times/ [19:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96800 @ 0.00073944 = 71.5778 BTC [+] {4} [19:24]
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FabianB $status [19:24]
empyex FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.biz mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com mpex.co Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 [19:24]
empyex FabianB: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (95 milliseconds), mpex.bz (184 milliseconds), mpex.co (455 milliseconds), mpex.biz (717 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (796 milliseconds) [19:24]
empyex FabianB: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √ [19:24]
Adlai why does "empyex" sound like "emptygox" to me? [19:25]
* Adlai can already see the rebranding to Pex™ [19:25]
Adlai well yes, my cousin did avise me once, "I have one piece of advice for you: don't tell any jokes." [19:28]
mircea_popescu not likely that gox'll be remembered much in a year or two. [19:30]
mircea_popescu hai FabianB [19:30]
Adlai well, they need to be remembered so people remember to do their own risk diversification, something about eggs and baskets [19:31]
mircea_popescu ;;google story witless pointless [19:32]
gribble The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Witless Protection - Rotten Tomatoes: ; 'ACOD' limp and unfunny | New York Post: [19:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074054 = 21.5497 BTC [+] {2} [20:20]
mircea_popescu "But I have to admit, I'd never thought much about the next analog of hydrogen peroxide. Instead of having two oxygens in there, why not three: HOOOH? Indeed, why not? This is a general principle that can be extended to many other similar situations. Instead of being locked in a self-storage unit with two rabid wolverines, why not three? Instead of having two liters of pyridine poured down your trousers, why not three? [20:20]
mircea_popescu And so on - it's a liberating thought." [20:20]
mircea_popescu this guy lol [20:20]
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Adlai ^_^ [20:24]
Adlai "it is argued that an antibody in the human body can generate trioxidane as a powerful oxidant against invading bacteria." http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20040913/wentworth.html [20:25]
assbot TSRI - News & Views [20:25]
mircea_popescu for the record, the only sane name for hydrogen peroxide is lo-ol [20:25]
mircea_popescu as in "we did it for the lo-ols" [20:26]
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mircea_popescu then all his derivates make perfect sense, dihydrogen trioxide = lo-o-ol [20:27]
xanthyos from lo+ and ol- ions? [20:27]
mircea_popescu well basically the reason anything's an alcohol is because someone took a hydrogen and pasted an -oh group. [20:28]
mircea_popescu so methane, ch4, methyl alcohol ch3oh [20:28]
mircea_popescu so this would be two -ol groups, h202 [20:28]
Adlai some chemist had a drunken lo-o-ol? [20:30]
mircea_popescu so these three very excited, rusophone derps moved into the building, spent all morning banging around trying to get a large ac unit installed (eventually welded it across on the frame, which was too small for it o.O) and now are playing loud russian pop music while making a bunch of smoke inside a small, 3x4 walled in cubical "balcony" of sorts, under the pretense of a bbq [20:30]
mircea_popescu they're really excited about it all too lmao [20:31]
Adlai sounds like the most fun they've had all week [20:31]
mircea_popescu ya srsly. accomplishments! [20:31]
Adlai the world forgetting, by the world forgot [20:31]
mircea_popescu think about it, men in their 30s partying without womenz. [20:31]
mircea_popescu in celebration of having innovatively misinstalled an ac unit. [20:32]
thickasthieves an exploration of extremes [20:32]
thickasthieves maybge they end up making out [20:32]
mircea_popescu they do look kinda jailbrdy... [20:32]
mircea_popescu then again, most people approximately shaved and in wifebeaters do. [20:32]
mircea_popescu i have nfi how they can afford rent here. [20:32]
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nubbins` ask 'em, maybe they're getting better rates than you [20:33]
mircea_popescu yeah, that'd totally explain why there's three of them living together in bachelor pads. [20:34]
nubbins` wait, how many pads? [20:34]
mircea_popescu one ? [20:35]
mircea_popescu i mean i dunno, but looks like it. [20:35]
mircea_popescu in fairness, the thing is designed to be able to "sleep" with two women, but a) women doing it in pairs don't tend to be as bulky as these dudes, and moreover... you know. [20:36]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/frank-spinosa-former-td-bank-executive-charged-for-role-in-1b-ponzi-scheme-1.2795778 [20:37]
assbot Frank Spinosa, former TD Bank executive, charged for role in $1B Ponzi scheme - Business - CBC News [20:37]
nubbins` what i don't get is that all these fucking assholes get rich and they just BLOW IT ALL on watches and cars and shit [20:37]
nubbins` this guy could've just walked away to wherever and lived happily ever after [20:38]
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nubbins` but instead he gets a rolex collection and buys 3 mansions in the usa [20:38]
mircea_popescu bitcoin-assets watch foundation claims usd increasingly used to scam. [20:38]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` what, you want them to go to argentina, misinstall ac units and have decontextualized bbq parties so old before their time cvasi-jews laugh at them over obscure internet venues instead, like those russians ?! [20:39]
mircea_popescu the russians don't understand how the world works, i tell you. [20:39]
nubbins` heh [20:39]
nubbins` *i* want them to get caught [20:39]
mircea_popescu why ? [20:39]
nubbins` scammers gotta get caught [20:40]
nubbins` i'm not talking about your russians here [20:40]
nubbins` but about the ponzi types who don't know when to cut & run [20:40]
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nubbins` it oozes stupidity [20:40]
mircea_popescu right, because they're here on a legitimate business purpose such as to study o.O [20:40]
nubbins` heh! [20:40]
mircea_popescu aaanyway : generally you have a point, in a healthy organism i'm with the organism against the parasites [20:40]
nubbins` studying asado [20:41]
mircea_popescu but canada would arguably be better served by more scammers. [20:41]
nubbins` we have enough already tyvm [20:41]
mircea_popescu it's still standing, so no. [20:41]
nubbins` for now 8) [20:41]
nubbins` ask an albertan what he thinks of a quebecer [20:42]
mircea_popescu queer beer ceer ? [20:42]
nubbins` ;;google let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark [20:42]
gribble National Energy Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Let the Eastern Bastards Freeze in the Dark: The West Versus the ...: ; Let the Eastern Bastards Freeze in the Dark - Random House Inc: [20:42]
nubbins` ;;google meech lake accord [20:43]
gribble Meech Lake Accord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Meech Lake Accord - The Canadian Encyclopedia: ; The Meech Lake Accord - Historica: [20:43]
mircea_popescu o look, the cannucks are trying to construct their own california-vs-jew york dispute! isn't it cute! [20:43]
nubbins` all water under the bridge these days ;) [20:44]
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nubbins` ;;google 1995 quebec referendum [20:44]
gribble Quebec referendum, 1995 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Québec Referendum (1995) - The Canadian Encyclopedia: ; 'Yes' vote in 1995 Quebec referendum could have meant ...: (1 more message) [20:44]
mircea_popescu wait, your water now FLOWS ? [20:44]
nubbins` it's still only october, yeah [20:45]
nubbins` give it a cpl months [20:45]
mircea_popescu want me to send over an ac install team ? [20:45]
nubbins` wtf am i going to do with AC here! [20:47]
mircea_popescu bbq ? [20:47]
nubbins` oh hm [20:48]
mircea_popescu you could empty the casing, discard the compressor and then bbq INSIDE!! A SMALL CUBE! [20:48]
nubbins` what do i do with my existing bbq? [20:48]
thickasthieves does it fit in the cube? [20:48]
thickasthieves dubbelsmokt [20:49]
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mircea_popescu your existing bbq you could put in a cat carrier ? [20:50]
mircea_popescu then your pets can bbq while you bbq [20:50]
thickasthieves caturday afternoon bbqz [20:50]
thickasthieves ;;estimate [20:53]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 37431886873.1 based on data since last change | 36547149048.5 based on data for last three days [20:53]
mircea_popescu ;;8ball are they going to play tatu soon ? [20:53]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/amaruk-wilderness-questions-raised-about-company-at-centre-of-anti-christian-attack-1.2794452 [20:53]
gribble You're kidding, right? [20:53]
assbot Amaruk Wilderness: Questions raised about company at centre of anti-Christian attack - British Columbia - CBC News [20:53]
mircea_popescu is "anti-christian attack" an attack against people against xtians or ? [20:54]
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thickasthieves these christains have too much troll power [20:55]
thickasthieves but these vikings might be up to the task [20:56]
mircea_popescu cazalla: it'd be nice to borg writers from say coinfire << the better ones, anyway. [20:56]
mircea_popescu don't be shy to shoot people emails if you like em. [20:56]
mircea_popescu PeterL: I have a question about deedbot: << deedbot is currently dead and being reimplemented. [20:57]
mircea_popescu PeterL: The spec says to generate an address from hashing the text, is there a way for other people to verify this? <<< yes. generate the address, spend the coins sent there. [20:57]
mircea_popescu if you do you do, if you don't it's because someone else did, in either case, it's just been verified [20:58]
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kakobrekla so the 1.2k a month guy wont be coming back? [20:58]
mircea_popescu https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << omfg cazalla TRAFFIC IS DROPPING DO SOMETHINGS!11 [20:58]
assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [20:59]
xanthyos <+thickasthieves> these christains have too much troll power [20:59]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla not into deedbot project anyway [20:59]
RagnarDanneskjol that comment was taken out of context, but I asked him to not bother coming back [20:59]
RagnarDanneskjol the 1.2 comment i mean [20:59]
kakobrekla ah so we are measuring traffic now? whats next, installing windows on our servers? [21:00]
mircea_popescu i can't even troll anymore [21:00]
mircea_popescu what sort of a scam trollbox is this! [21:01]
thickasthieves use viewers cpu to mine ATC as payment for content [21:01]
mircea_popescu uh. [21:01]
xanthyos are trolling and derping the same thing? [21:01]
mircea_popescu xanthyos no. derping is doing banal retarded shit. stuff that would make one go "oh, derp!" if their brain were functioning [21:01]
kakobrekla yeah well and im verboten telling jokes. [21:02]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla since when ?! [21:02]
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thickasthieves i like kakojokes [21:02]
mircea_popescu +1 [21:02]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-09-2014#828495 [21:02]
assbot Logged on 13-09-2014 19:39:26; mircea_popescu: omfg kakobrekla you are banned from jokes. [21:02]
mircea_popescu I WAS TROLLIN [21:02]
nubbins` kekobrekla [21:02]
thickasthieves so is he! [21:02]
nubbins` for top kek [21:02]
kakobrekla aa ok then [21:03]
thickasthieves trollt [21:03]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you mean kok ? [21:03]
nubbins` top kok [21:03]
kakobrekla lol [21:03]
mircea_popescu check that out, tits' an official kok expert now [21:03]
kakobrekla srsly [21:03]
mircea_popescu http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/oh-derp >> there's even a tumblr! [21:04]
assbot oh derp on Tumblr [21:04]
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mircea_popescu A samurai chemist and a plain chemist walk into a bar. The first says, “Can I have a glass of H2O.” The second says “Can I have a glass of water too.” The first chemist broke down in tears – his assassination attempt had failed. [21:06]
mircea_popescu fuck, they're playing tatu! [21:07]
mircea_popescu and screaming along [21:07]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8 << [21:07]
assbot t.A.T.u. - All The Things She Said - YouTube [21:07]
mircea_popescu how fucking stereotypical can some stereotypical dudes be! [21:07]
thickasthieves nice song lol [21:10]
nubbins` assassination wat [21:11]
mircea_popescu nerd joke nubbins`, you wouldn't know :D [21:11]
nubbins` OH HA [21:11]
nubbins` ding ding ding [21:11]
mircea_popescu lol [21:11]
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mircea_popescu "It isn't just amateurs who use hydrogen peroxide in rocketry, and unfortunately some of the professionals have to "roll their own" as well. The only remaining supplier for rocket-grade peroxide (in the US at least) has a policy of only selling to government contractors." [21:17]
mircea_popescu so very typical [21:17]
mircea_popescu of soviet russia. [21:17]
ben_vulpes are you reading Ignition! or Corante? [21:21]
mircea_popescu nope. [21:23]
mircea_popescu http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides.php#1571231 [21:24]
assbot Things I Won't Work With: Peroxide Peroxides. In the Pipeline: [21:24]
mircea_popescu nm, corante. [21:24]
ben_vulpes Ignition!'s a lively read. [21:24]
mircea_popescu didja make your own peroxide btw ? or not used oxidisers ? [21:25]
ben_vulpes muchly referenced throughout corante. required reading for anyone interested in rocket fuels. [21:25]
ben_vulpes silver cats. [21:25]
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ben_vulpes not really a well engineered solution at the end of the day. [21:25]
ben_vulpes thing never fired, 'cause derp. [21:26]
ben_vulpes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Arrow << my heroes [21:26]
assbot Black Arrow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:26]
mircea_popescu i suppose the more kinetic mommentum one can put behind the rocket, the lower total energy needed for a successful launch [21:27]
mircea_popescu so there's plenty of very good incentive to use the most energetic reaction possible [21:27]
nubbins` mmhmm [21:27]
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* mircea_popescu has never dabbled in rocketry, just going by general physics [21:28]
ben_vulpes that is indeed the tradeoff. [21:28]
ben_vulpes well hang on [21:28]
ben_vulpes the tradeoff is that the higher up the ergodic chain you go, the more little things cause your whole stack to go kaboom. [21:29]
mircea_popescu course since g is more or less fixed, the benefit of going from 2g to 4g is significantly larger than the benefit of going from 4 to 8 [21:29]
ben_vulpes i never got a good answer on how much monte carlo work went into the 60's space programs during the design phase and how much was back of the envelope estimating. [21:30]
mircea_popescu 0-100 [21:30]
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ben_vulpes i suspect trajectory planning had lots of sims run. fuel combinations, maybe a few. [21:31]
mircea_popescu how ? they didn't have good computers in the 50s, they weren't much inclined to use them, etc. im betting they used the artillery method [21:32]
mircea_popescu (shoot and observe) [21:32]
ben_vulpes c'est possible [21:32]
ben_vulpes you can do some amount of trajectory planning by hand, too. [21:33]
ben_vulpes low fidelty, but helps with bounds. [21:33]
mircea_popescu exactly. [21:34]
ben_vulpes "sims" [21:34]
mircea_popescu well if you count handiwork then sure. [21:34]
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ben_vulpes they had plenty of computers back then! [21:34]
ben_vulpes in the classic sense of the word, though. [21:34]
ben_vulpes if i recall correctly, japan's orbital vehicle got into orbit with no onboard control, just a gravity turn. [21:35]
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chetty lots of slide rules, actually [21:36]
ben_vulpes further research indicates there was actually onboard control. [21:36]
mircea_popescu ^ mechanical computing mostly. [21:39]
nubbins` yah [21:40]
ben_vulpes brenschluss [21:41]
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mircea_popescu PeterL: so it becomes a race to see who gets there first once the bundle is published? << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2014#853812 [22:30]
assbot Logged on 01-10-2014 20:43:07; hanbot: mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh? [22:30]
mircea_popescu PeterL: yes, so something like a millibit a day if it is used frequently << an hour, actually. [22:31]
mircea_popescu way more than the faucet sites iirc [22:31]
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nubbins` "so mettez-ca sur votre pipe et fumez-la!", my wife just says to me [22:58]
nubbins` *ça, even [22:58]
mthreat something about put it in your pipe and smoke it? [23:02]
mthreat maybe like "stick it up your ass" ? heh [23:02]
mthreat unless you're literally loading up your pipe [23:03]
mthreat but why did she say "votre", that's the formal [23:03]
nubbins` familiarity breeds contempt, duh [23:07]
mircea_popescu it's not sur tho. sur is on, it'd be dans [23:08]
nubbins` anyway yes, this is a "so THERE!" type thing to put at the end of a declarative statement [23:08]
nubbins` dans is on [23:08]
mircea_popescu and yes, it's french idiomatic [23:08]
nubbins` wait. [23:08]
mircea_popescu no. [23:08]
nubbins` fuck [23:09]
mircea_popescu ;;google M le Président, mettez-ca dans votre pipe et fumez-le! [23:09]
gribble More reasons to raise a cheer for London's golden Games - Telegraph: ; Never Two Such Kingdoms Did Contend Without Much Fall of Blood: ; (1 more message) [23:09]
nubbins` i probably just heard it wrong ;p [23:09]
nubbins` somewhat related: http://i.imgur.com/KVTaXIJ.jpg [23:09]
nubbins` also somewhat related: get in the car, get on the bus [23:09]
mircea_popescu actually, related is this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZAbSV1NCOc [23:11]
assbot Road Trip - Andy Dick Hotel Scene Roadtrip - YouTube [23:11]
nubbins` bawb raws! [23:11]
nubbins` oh fuck i should be bob ross for halloween this year [23:12]
mircea_popescu i wonder what bob ross does for halloween [23:12]
nubbins` drinks, probably. [23:14]
nubbins` or maybe... [23:14]
nubbins` "i should dress like some canadian asshole who sits on his ass on irc all day" [23:15]
thickasthieves bob ross is dead [23:15]
thickasthieves so a zombie obv [23:15]
nubbins` wow, for like 19 years [23:15]
nubbins` only 53 when he died! [23:15]
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mircea_popescu too much stuff in pipe ? [23:18]
ben_vulpes oldie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY [23:19]
assbot Bitcoin vs. Political Power: The Cryptocurrency Revolution - Stefan Molyneux at TNW Conference - YouTube [23:19]
nubbins` trop des choses dans le pipe ;/ [23:19]
thickasthieves lymphoma [23:19]
xanthyos http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/truly-buttcoins-2.png << more concerned wiht the white crusty shit on th lens than the crayon in the butt [23:19]
mircea_popescu xanthyos you know that's what the slavegirls said, too ? [23:19]
nubbins` xanthyos that's prob toothpaste residue on the mirror [23:19]
mircea_popescu god loves an optimist. [23:19]
nubbins` also, fuck you for reposting, altho i shoulda known [23:20]
nubbins` also, who doesn't wipe down their mirror before taking an anus selfie? [23:20]
mircea_popescu same person that doesn't wipe down the anus. [23:20]
nubbins` fuck that's revolting [23:20]
nubbins` attention people of the future: do not click that last link [23:20]
mircea_popescu lol [23:21]
thickasthieves attention people of the future, read this log backwards! [23:21]
xanthyos tachyon-NSFW [23:21]
mircea_popescu attention backwards of the future : log this read! [23:21]
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mircea_popescu who knew nubbs is so squeamish [23:22]
thickasthieves i dont think any of us will be hanging posters of mr buttcoin [23:22]
kakobrekla nubbs how much for a buttcoin poster [23:22]
mircea_popescu single or with wife ? [23:23]
kakobrekla dun care [23:23]
xanthyos sorry, i'm used to dealing with absolute degenerate immoral filth in my internet peers who have a higher tolerance for ugly things than pretty things [23:23]
mircea_popescu o so you're the guy causing that uptick that some watchtower or other noticed recently ? [23:23]
xanthyos uptick? [23:24]
nubbins` heh [23:24]
nubbins` kako depends on how many colors ;( [23:24]
mircea_popescu hahahha [23:25]
mircea_popescu !b 24 [23:25]
assbot Last 24 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EPYG4B.txt ) [23:25]
nubbins` ;;later tell thestringpuller only copy i've got left is my proof, i dun wanna send it to you : [23:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:25]
mircea_popescu shit check me out, i got the linecount exact. [23:25]
nubbins` nb, nb [23:26]
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nubbins` panko-encrusted basil-lemon pollock tonight [23:45]
mircea_popescu Bengay: Original contains 15% Methyl Salicylate and 10% Menthol. [23:47]
mircea_popescu Bengay: Muscle Pain/Ultra Strength contains 30% Methyl Salicylate, 10% Menthol, and 4% Camphor. [23:47]
mircea_popescu Bengay: Ice Extra Strength contains 10% Menthol. [23:47]
mircea_popescu way to sell placebo to a selected market lmao [23:47]
mircea_popescu meanwhile chinese made (and generally, better) tiger balm is five dollars a tub [23:48]
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