Forum logs for 11 Feb 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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jurov	the green hurts	[00:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639999 = 6.4 BTC [-]	[00:10]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0064 = 21.12 BTC [+]	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[00:11]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.85001, Best ask: 23.89900, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 23.85001, 24 hour volume: 53676.15792582, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.99800, 24 hour vwap: 23.38993	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 23.38993 / 4	[00:11]
gribble	5.8474825	[00:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1709 @ 0.00063466 = 1.0846 BTC [+]	[00:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063534 = 2.9226 BTC [+]	[00:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7671 @ 0.00063578 = 4.8771 BTC [+]	[00:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063701 = 2.9302 BTC [+]	[00:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 820 @ 0.00063737 = 0.5226 BTC [+]	[00:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3441 @ 0.00062569 = 2.153 BTC [-]	[00:17]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 42 @ 0.0063 = 0.2646 BTC [+]	[00:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1065 @ 0.00062569 = 0.6664 BTC [-]	[00:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 868 @ 0.00062314 = 0.5409 BTC [-]	[00:19]
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Namworld	Still 4 BTC to be distributed on BTC-BOND, one per day, by the way	[00:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9132 @ 0.00062314 = 5.6905 BTC [-]	[00:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6168 @ 0.00062313 = 3.8435 BTC [-]	[00:21]
jurov	not just s.bbet. s.dice looks silly now, too	[00:22]
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Bugpower	2444444444	[00:24]
jurov	;;ticker	[00:25]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.81178, Best ask: 23.99894, Bid-ask spread: 0.18716, Last trade: 23.81178, 24 hour volume: 54088.59621120, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.00000, 24 hour vwap: 23.39639	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	haha almost there.	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	and calls STILL Aren't selling much.	[00:26]
Bugpower	yeah	[00:27]
Bugpower	I gotta price mine over yours for a bit	[00:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2382 @ 0.00062313 = 1.4843 BTC [-]	[00:27]
Bugpower	don't want to sellf	[00:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [+]	[00:29]
Namworld	Eventually, eventually. When I have the money	[00:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+]	[00:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6490 @ 0.00062163 = 4.0344 BTC [-]	[00:32]
jurov	i'd buy something like C200N but...0.43BTC?	[00:32]
Namworld	that expensive?	[00:33]
Namworld	ouchies	[00:34]
jurov	yes. needs btcusd to go over 35	[00:34]
mod6	well, forward months are usually a little more	[00:34]
jurov	a little	[00:34]
mod6	heheh	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	im sure it was cheaper two weeks ago, when the btcusd was still 15ish	[00:35]
Namworld	lol	[00:35]
jurov	point taken	[00:35]
error4733	24	[00:36]
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mod6	;;ticker	[00:36]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.98705, Best ask: 24.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01295, Last trade: 24.00000, 24 hour volume: 54422.54900535, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.00000, 24 hour vwap: 23.40115	[00:36]
jurov	C300N turns profitable at btcusd=41.6 O.o	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	could happen till end of march ?	[00:37]
jurov	why C300N and C350N sell at the same price?	[00:37]
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mod6	the curve flattens the more otm they are	[00:38]
Namworld	because there's a standard minimum price and so far out of market price...	[00:39]
Namworld	well they're all at minimum price	[00:39]
Namworld	if there was no minimum, C350N would be cheaper I guess	[00:39]
jurov	;;calc 35/24	[00:40]
gribble	1.45833333333	[00:40]
jurov	far? it's only 46% over current price	[00:40]
Namworld	;;ticker	[00:41]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.04004, Best ask: 24.04281, Bid-ask spread: 0.00277, Last trade: 24.04004, 24 hour volume: 54796.84225547, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.04004, 24 hour vwap: 23.40587	[00:41]
Namworld	BAM	[00:41]
Namworld	over 24	[00:41]
Namworld	We're still going strong	[00:42]
jurov	;;asks 23.5	[00:43]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 23.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.	[00:43]
jurov	;;asks 24.5	[00:43]
gribble	There are currently 4618.2439 bitcoins offered at or under 24.5 USD, worth 112289.956161 USD in total.	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	actually the calls out 6 weeks show LESS price variation than has happened the past 3 weeks	[00:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006192 = 0.805 BTC [-]	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	i'd say they're kinda cheap.	[00:44]
Lyspooner	why aren't you doing those things now	[00:45]
Bugpower	lol	[00:45]
Bugpower	lol	[00:45]
Bugpower	lol	[00:45]
Namworld	lol, how many you got PsychoticBoy?	[00:45]
jurov	haha... i consider half-retired since 29 (paid off my flat) and slowly getting there	[00:45]
Namworld	To stop everything at 35 per	[00:45]
jurov	it's better to retire gradually than abruptly	[00:46]
jurov	imho	[00:46]
Namworld	Well pirate was a bad idea	[00:46]
jurov	greedy?	[00:47]
jurov	um, still 2k ask wall at 24 at bitstamp.. anyone doing arb?	[00:49]
Namworld	I wish	[00:49]
Namworld	I got no convenient way to move fiat around	[00:49]
jurov	got an idea wrt bitstamp and am pestering Ukto with it.. we'll see. but he's busy now with other things	[00:50]
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mircea_popescu	"And thanks for being pleasant, MPOE-PR."	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	what are my eyes reading	[00:55]
Bugpower	REDDDDD	[00:55]
Namworld	sarcasm?	[00:55]
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mircea_popescu	this is failure on a colossal scale!	[00:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.0006192 = 3.7499 BTC [-]	[00:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00061882 = 3.1523 BTC [-]	[00:58]
Anduck	mircea_popescu: i think he meant peasant	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	lol	[01:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00061882 = 2.0149 BTC [-]	[01:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00061876 = 5.507 BTC [-]	[01:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00061863 = 5.4514 BTC [-]	[01:00]
Anduck	OR	[01:01]
Anduck	he meant pheasant	[01:01]
Anduck	there's a lot possibilities	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[01:02]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00606903 / 0.00635803 / 0.0064 (34996 shares, 222.51 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00574395 / 0.007395 (4398275 shares, 25,263.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00554145 / 0.0075 (8548901 shares, 47,373.31 BTC)	[01:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00061864 = 0.6186 BTC [+]	[01:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1188 @ 0.00061863 = 0.7349 BTC [-]	[01:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00061862 = 5.6913 BTC [-]	[01:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00062163 = 0.3108 BTC [+]	[01:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00061862 = 3.8973 BTC [-]	[01:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8122 @ 0.00062163 = 5.0489 BTC [+]	[01:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3352 @ 0.00062399 = 2.0916 BTC [+]	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00061862 = 0.7114 BTC [-]	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00061858 = 5.7528 BTC [-]	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6679 @ 0.00061796 = 4.1274 BTC [-]	[01:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]	[01:47]
jurov	someone here sought for ripples? https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/15914-1000-xrp-ripples	[01:48]
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mircea_popescu	is that a new bottom for bitmit ?	[01:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1494 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.1495 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.1497 = 0.8982 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.1498 = 0.749 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 8 @ 0.151 = 1.208 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00063334 = 13.3001 BTC [+]	[01:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00063534 = 0.5083 BTC [+]	[01:57]
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Namworld	It looks like no more bids on ASICMINER going to happen	[02:01]
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Bugpower	yah no shit	[02:06]
Bugpower	shoulda taken the deal	[02:07]
Bugpower	before market flooded	[02:07]
Namworld	?	[02:07]
Bugpower	are people still going to pay 0.41?	[02:08]
Namworld	Well I already got the bids	[02:08]
Namworld	There's a reason the forum doesn't allow post deletion	[02:08]
Bugpower	do you think they will honor them now that there are 1000s of shares on market?	[02:08]
Namworld	All the shares on the market request 0.30 minimum...	[02:09]
Namworld	It was my actual reserve =/	[02:09]
Namworld	Seems no one wants to sell under .3	[02:09]
Bugpower	it was a good idea to sell	[02:09]
Namworld	idk, maybe	[02:10]
Namworld	If friedcat keeps spamming more and more ASICs, could generate a lot in mining	[02:10]
Namworld	Although the profit from ASIC sales seems like the sweet deal.	[02:10]
Namworld	I'd like to have an idea of the power consumption and the cost to them to make boards	[02:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.925 BTC [-]	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C230T] 915 @ 0.15315884 = 140.1403 BTC	[02:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00063379 = 1.8063 BTC [-]	[02:19]
Bugpower	well	[02:19]
Bugpower	there go some calls	[02:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10722 @ 0.00061922 = 6.6393 BTC [-]	[02:20]
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mircea_popescu	it can happen!	[02:21]
Namworld	you bought or sold?	[02:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0099 = 0.495 BTC [+]	[02:21]
Namworld	By the look of it, it was an ask	[02:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00063379 = 7.447 BTC [+]	[02:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00063534 = 0.9848 BTC [+]	[02:23]
Bugpower	someone hit MPs ask	[02:23]
Namworld	not yours then	[02:23]
Bugpower	nope I am only buying into this shit	[02:23]
Bugpower	IV is huge right now	[02:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15740 @ 0.00063534 = 10.0003 BTC [+]	[02:24]
Bowjob	So, is it worth getting mpex if you only have around 100 BTC to play around?	[02:24]
Namworld	To me it's always worth it. Later, it will only cost more.	[02:25]
Bowjob	The only thing I understand are the stocks, still clueless about options	[02:26]
Bugpower	I think ~300BTC	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob in general after a few k worth of total trade it's worth it	[02:26]
Bowjob	ah	[02:26]
error4733	minus 5 btc or 10 if your referer is kind	[02:26]
Bugpower	options straddle at 24 looks kinda juicy right now	[02:26]
Bugpower	Also	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	if you can do the sort of magic shit Bugpower does and extract 100% out of your btc in six weeks	[02:27]
Bugpower	you may have more BTC in the future	[02:27]
Bugpower	just wait	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	then putting in 60 btc means you'll be whole by spring.	[02:27]
Bugpower	till this OpEX	[02:27]
Bugpower	:)	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	hehehe	[02:27]
Bowjob	yeah, I'm aware an mpex account could exceed the cost of a nyse seat	[02:27]
Bowjob	^	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	Bugpower ya, haven't seen the ponzigraph in a while	[02:28]
Bowjob	Bug we started with the same capital.. what sort of voodoo are you doing?	[02:28]
Bugpower	Luck	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	he is stealing from the common man.	[02:28]
Bugpower	I was lucky to buy in at 2.65	[02:28]
Bowjob	I'd get slaughtered right now if I jump in right now	[02:28]
Bugpower	I was lucky to buy a shitload of calls before last opex	[02:29]
Bugpower	then reverse postion at the top	[02:29]
Bowjob	and that could backfire miserably, right?	[02:29]
Bugpower	and I was REALLY lucky to buy calls when it was at 17 today	[02:29]
Bugpower	not today	[02:29]
Bugpower	early this month	[02:29]
Bugpower	and i was STUPID to get partially flushed out on a brief dump on Monday?	[02:30]
Bugpower	so ponzi power is not where I would like it to be.	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	so how much are you ahead ?	[02:30]
Bowjob	a call is like a guarantee to buy bitcoins at a specific price, you just gotta pay a premium for that guarantee right?	[02:30]
Bugpower	from cost basis?	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[02:30]
Bugpower	From Dec 2011, up around 3000% USD	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	jolly.	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	dare i ask if early or late dec ?	[02:31]
Bugpower	they said it was for early adopters only	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob pretty much	[02:31]
Bugpower	let me check	[02:31]
Bugpower	Nov 29th	[02:32]
Bowjob	I told my boss about bitcoin when they reached 31 USD	[02:33]
Bowjob	we all know what happened there, good thing he didnt ask me the following days after	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	>D	[02:33]
Bowjob	*then	[02:33]
Bowjob	I thought it was done for. then months later, I saw it at 10 dollars, then 11, then 12	[02:33]
Bowjob	I got some at 13.29, then it's all gravy train all the way to 24	[02:34]
Bugpower	when it hit $2 I knew it was time to buy	[02:34]
Bugpower	I was lucky I didn't buy in the first bubble	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	i think bitcoin pretty much is divided among they who loaded up under 4 and they who did not.	[02:35]
Bugpower	wanted to buy at $7 on the first bubble	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	Bugpower i bought my first batch, 60 bitcoins, at 16 each.	[02:35]
Bowjob	heck when I logged in on my mt gox, I saw orders at 2 dollars	[02:35]
Bugpower	but never got around to it	[02:35]
jurov	lol i loaded at 5	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	recently, that went into green. took like 16 months.	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	i happen to not care that going from 16 to 24 took 16 months	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	jurov thus you fail. sorry!	[02:35]
jurov	:P	[02:36]
jurov	but i think mpex ipo participation got me back into game :DDD	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	ehehe im sure it did, that.	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	probably best investment in history of btc, esp for the people who got the shares at 2k satoshi	[02:38]
Namworld	I'll take some of that	[02:39]
Namworld	I keep hearing about interesting stuff late xP	[02:39]
mircea_popescu	lol	[02:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7010 @ 0.00063534 = 4.4537 BTC [+]	[02:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13890 @ 0.0006354 = 8.8257 BTC [+]	[02:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [-]	[02:45]
jurov	i just paid puny 1.55 btc for wordpress templates for quite sizable website	[02:45]
jurov	realized how much it's wort now	[02:46]
jurov	*worth	[02:46]
BitHub	i hope it wasn't wordpress.com?	[02:46]
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jurov	no, i ended up doing a site for nonprofit	[02:47]
Bowjob	someone's asking for a 1000 BTC 'loan' with the title "Impossible to pay you back"	[02:47]
jurov	and wamnted to use something mainstream so that any monkey can take it over	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob let me guess, btcjam ?	[02:48]
Bowjob	Nope, bitcointalk	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	not hyp enough for btcjam yet.	[02:48]
Bowjob	I'm not sure if trolling, or serious or stupid or both	[02:48]
Bowjob	erm, all three	[02:49]
Bowjob	lol	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	troth	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	totally. i can see it	[02:50]
mircea_popescu	"not sure if stupid, trolling, intoxicated or troth"	[02:50]
error4733	he can provide bisness plan for serious enquiries	[02:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0064 = 0.0128 BTC [+]	[02:53]
error4733	f** my english haha	[02:53]
jurov	error4733, but you imitated that style nicely	[02:54]
Bowjob	no business plans provided. it's the same dude who asked for 1200 BTC loan, then 350-400 BTC, then 1000 BTC.. oh and it's the same guy who called in 23.99 as the top for 2013	[02:54]
Bowjob	I offered him the opportunity to short the coins, but declined.	[02:55]
BitHub	error4733 what is it?	[02:55]
error4733	i'm not serious so idk	[02:56]
jurov	;;ticker	[03:00]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.91002, Best ask: 23.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.08995, Last trade: 23.99998, 24 hour volume: 56718.38842089, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 24.11000, 24 hour vwap: 23.42452	[03:00]
Namworld	You know, the thread title might have been changed by a moderator... I could easily see that happening	[03:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]	[03:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063207 = 4.8985 BTC [-]	[03:05]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0063 = 0.0126 BTC [+]	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	aite well, take it ezzy all.	[03:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00062818 = 3.6617 BTC [-]	[12:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 568 @ 0.00063224 = 0.3591 BTC [+]	[12:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30394 @ 0.00063224 = 19.2163 BTC [+]	[12:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0006345 = 5.3615 BTC [+]	[12:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6610 @ 0.00063676 = 4.209 BTC [+]	[12:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006369 = 4.4265 BTC [+]	[12:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4609 @ 0.00063737 = 2.9376 BTC [+]	[12:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00062734 = 5.1442 BTC [-]	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell evoorhees https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142395.msg1518588 that sounds like its worth looking into	[12:24]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[12:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00062734 = 1.3488 BTC [-]	[12:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9177 @ 0.00062729 = 5.7566 BTC [-]	[12:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13421 @ 0.00063737 = 8.5541 BTC [+]	[12:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00063801 = 2.0282 BTC [+]	[12:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1271 @ 0.00063801 = 0.8109 BTC [+]	[12:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00063804 = 7.005 BTC [+]	[12:44]
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jurov	;;bc,tslb	[12:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00063804 = 1.4573 BTC [+]	[12:48]
gribble	Time since last block: 50 minutes and 6 seconds	[12:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8366 @ 0.00063884 = 5.3445 BTC [+]	[12:48]
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BitHub	anybody personally selling any assets?	[12:49]
BitHub	shares into asic rigs? avalons etc	[12:49]
jurov	BitHub, aren't you interested in difficulty futures perhaps?	[12:50]
leotreasure	jurov: how do you buy difficulty futures?	[12:51]
jurov	i mostly issue them :)	[12:51]
leotreasure	cool! i should get some	[12:52]
jurov	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E	[12:52]
jurov	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-O	[12:52]
BitHub	can you explain what they are a bit more?	[12:52]
BitHub	sorry to be n00b	[12:52]
jurov	1. you buy them on whatever price they're offered	[12:53]
jurov	2. expiration date comes, it will be liquidated and you'll get back current difficulty in satoshi	[12:53]
jurov	so if it goes up to 4 million, you'll get 0.04 BTC/share	[12:54]
jurov	also shorting is posible if you expect difficulty to stagnate/go down	[12:55]
BitHub	where can i check the difficulty rating in real time?	[12:55]
jurov	http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/	[12:55]
jurov	;;bc,diff	[12:55]
gribble	3275464.5865656	[12:55]
jurov	^ also	[12:55]
BitHub	ahh	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	http://www.palookavillepost.com/2013/02/09/accused-gunman-christopher-dorner-issues-statement-its-not-me/	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	that's pretty sweet.	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	BitHub i think namworld was selling asicminer shares	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	but on auction	[12:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00063604 = 13.1342 BTC [-]	[12:56]
BitHub	i purchased some, got no idea if i own them or not tho	[12:57]
jurov	what do you mean?	[12:57]
jurov	it's more a contract, than something you own.	[12:57]
jurov	the contract says i promise to pay you according to diffculty on a set date	[12:58]
BitHub	sorry that was directed at mircea	[12:58]
jurov	ok :)	[12:59]
BitHub	so its like a bet? if you don't make that date you get nothing?	[12:59]
leotreasure	jurov what does the O and E mean?	[12:59]
jurov	-O odd months, -E even months settlement	[12:59]
jurov	so after -E expires, i'll create new one for april with the same name	[13:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063349 = 1.5837 BTC [-]	[13:00]
BitHub	would you buy some futures leo?	[13:00]
leotreasure	i think so	[13:03]
leotreasure	probably next months	[13:03]
jurov	well, buy them only if you believe in asics	[13:03]
mircea_popescu	BitHub sorry, purchased what ?	[13:03]
leotreasure	i do believe in asics	[13:04]
jurov	i'm selling them, nuff said	[13:04]
leotreasure	i wear their socks and shoes too	[13:04]
jurov	you're welcome ;)	[13:04]
leotreasure	also	[13:04]
BitHub	asicminer shares	[13:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 3 @ 0.33832578 = 1.015 BTC [+]	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	BitHub the ownership of asicminer shares is a little iffy, because there's no exchange/clearinghouse atm	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	if indeed their own system is ever deployed, and if indeed it actually works as expected, you probably have something	[13:06]
BitHub	probably	[13:06]
BitHub	or just got scammed	[13:06]
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mircea_popescu	i dunno what they're thinking, but anyway.	[13:07]
jurov	i advise against it, based on their not exactly stellar performance with managing bitvps asset	[13:07]
mjr__	;;bc,24hprc	[13:08]
gribble	23.56	[13:08]
jurov	!ticker btct bitvps	[13:08]
leotreasure	http://leotreasure.com/asics1.jpg http://leotreasure.com/asics2.jpg	[13:08]
assbot	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)	[13:08]
jurov	^ nice	[13:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 312 @ 0.00635294 = 1.9821 BTC [+]	[13:08]
mjr__	hi all	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	lol zeitgeist	[13:09]
jurov	'ello	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	lmao bitcointalk noobs bitching at assbot's name	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	how can these people be so boring and live ?	[13:09]
jurov	lol leo	[13:09]
leotreasure	:)	[13:10]
leotreasure	they're coming march or april	[13:10]
BitHub	haha it's leotreasure's asic store	[13:10]
mjr__	so, i got the call with $17 strike expiring this month	[13:11]
leotreasure	nice	[13:11]
mjr__	from what i've calculated going off the 24 hour volume-weighted cross-exchange ratio, that i am in the money above 24.97095538, is that true?	[13:12]
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mjr__	i paid 0.33832578	[13:13]
mjr__	just checking my math	[13:14]
jurov	;;calc (24.971-17)/24.971	[13:14]
gribble	0.319210283929	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 6/20	[13:14]
gribble	0.3	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 7/20	[13:14]
gribble	0.35	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	ya somewhere between 23 and 24 you're itm	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	ow shit my bad	[13:14]
mjr__	;;bc,24hprc	[13:14]
gribble	23.56	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	jurov is right	[13:14]
mjr__	by the way, Jurov, coinbr has worked awesome, i have not had one problem so far	[13:15]
mjr__	which is more than i can say for coinbase	[13:15]
jurov	glad to hear!	[13:16]
mircea_popescu	maybe it/s time someone seeds jurov then	[13:16]
jurov	;;calc 17/(1-0.33)	[13:17]
gribble	25.3731343284	[13:17]
mjr__	yeah, i agree	[13:17]
jurov	^ your break even point	[13:17]
jurov	;;calc 17/(1-0.3383)	[13:17]
gribble	25.691400937	[13:17]
jurov	more precisely	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ eyah, save that formula somewhere. strike - (1 / what you paid) = break even point	[13:17]
mjr__	ah, you use the current trading price instead of the 24 hour cross-exchange average?	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	no, mpoe settles on the 24 hour vwap	[13:18]
mjr__	;;bc,24hprc	[13:18]
gribble	23.56	[13:18]
jurov	anyway, looks like i'm going to be fully self-sufficient capital-wise, no need for seeding	[13:19]
mjr__	is that the vwap?	[13:19]
jurov	i'm rather on lookout for people who can get things done and can develop/manage non-core areas such as charts	[13:19]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136058158521.jpg speraking of professional	[13:19]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ yes indeed it is.	[13:20]
mjr__	so...just to see if i understand this right...	[13:20]
mjr__	what i paid is (0.33832578*23.56) + the strike of 17 = 24.97095538	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	nah.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	o you mean in dollars ?	[13:22]
mjr__	yes	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	or what do you mean	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	in dollars you paid 0.33832578 * whatever price was then	[13:22]
mjr__	ah ok	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	cause you did pay then	[13:22]
mjr__	that is why it is a little higher than that number	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	so yes, if you do fiat accoubnting your breakeven is much lower than if you do btc accounting	[13:22]
mjr__	it's fine either way	[13:22]
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mircea_popescu	say you buy calls strike 10 when btc is 20 for .7	[13:23]
mircea_popescu	cost you 200 dollars	[13:23]
mircea_popescu	if btc goes to 25	[13:23]
mjr__	either way, i just want to be able to watch the price climb without being mad that i can't get in till friday	[13:23]
mircea_popescu	hehe yeah. alternatively you can sell puts	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	that's much higher risk	[13:24]
mjr__	true, but no capital for collateral	[13:24]
mjr__	and yeah, i like calls	[13:24]
mjr__	once i have a large position, i may think about buying puts	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	calls are like, high chance of low loss, small chance of huge win	[13:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00063349 = 0.2851 BTC [-]	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	short puts are like, equal chances of win/loss	[13:24]
mjr__	yes exactly	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	hey, the pope is resigning	[13:25]
mjr__	i like small definite cost, big (unlimited) payoff	[13:25]
mjr__	and also, psychologically, i will now be happy if they shoot up to $30	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	or 50 lol	[13:25]
mjr__	yeah true	[13:25]
mjr__	frustrating to not be able to get cash in there already	[13:26]
mjr__	speaking of which	[13:26]
mjr__	what do you think of camp bx?	[13:26]
mjr__	had horrible experience buying through coinbase, i just got the 1 btc i ordered on feb 2nd today	[13:27]
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mjr__	good online wallet, bad exchange so far as i can see	[13:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8584 @ 0.00063884 = 5.4838 BTC [+]	[13:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063899 = 4.2812 BTC [+]	[13:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9416 @ 0.00063973 = 6.0237 BTC [+]	[13:27]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ you might try bitcoin-central	[13:27]
mircea_popescu	a wait, you're in the us huh ?	[13:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00063973 = 0.3199 BTC [+]	[13:28]
mjr__	yeah	[13:29]
mjr__	it sucks	[13:29]
mjr__	i will try bitcoin local first, or maybe reach out to some friends in nyc	[13:29]
mjr__	i can't deal with the huge wait times	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	not being in the sepa zone is pretty sucky.	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	yurpeans get same day service with the frenchie folks.	[13:29]
mjr__	yeah	[13:30]
mjr__	coinbase takes 4 days i think	[13:30]
mjr__	for the transfer to go through	[13:30]
mjr__	bitfloor is supposed to have like same day transfer from online banking	[13:30]
mjr__	since they have an ING direct checking, if you have one, you can move money to their account same day	[13:30]
mjr__	the last assbot message was my order going through :)	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	hehe cool.	[13:31]
jurov	mjr_ why so rushed? yo could have placed limit order at lower price	[13:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00635294 = 0.3176 BTC [+]	[13:32]
jurov	that way i bought 40BTC worth of s.mpoe below 0.00062 this night	[13:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9234 @ 0.00063973 = 5.9073 BTC [+]	[13:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1866 @ 0.00064045 = 1.1951 BTC [+]	[13:34]
mjr__	options expire almost a week before month end this month	[13:35]
jurov	well, it's last friday midnight	[13:36]
jurov	not exactly the brightest idea , if you ask me	[13:36]
jurov	i think mp recognized that and set diff futures expiration in the middle of week instead	[13:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10234 @ 0.00064045 = 6.5544 BTC [+]	[13:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4516 @ 0.00064071 = 2.8934 BTC [+]	[13:37]
*	jurov bitching mode off	[13:37]
jurov	lunch, brb	[13:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00064071 = 4.4529 BTC [+]	[13:40]
mjr__	yeah i could have done limits	[13:41]
mjr__	and i plan on it	[13:41]
mjr__	but i figured i'd just get in	[13:41]
mjr__	i can't wait for the end of this month	[13:41]
mjr__	see how dividends go, and hopefully options are good	[13:41]
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mjr__	so no one has used camp bx? they have a pretty cool platform	[13:42]
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mjr__	allow hidden orders, dark pool	[13:44]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4534 @ 0.00064071 = 2.905 BTC [+]	[13:53]
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Bowjob	anyone wanna play street fighter iv for bitcoins'	[13:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2167 @ 0.00064071 = 1.3884 BTC [+]	[13:56]
BitHub	street fighter :)	[13:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [+]	[13:57]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]	[14:00]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [+]	[14:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00064071 = 0.7041 BTC [+]	[14:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00063861 = 8.3664 BTC [-]	[14:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00063861 = 4.0539 BTC [-]	[14:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11901 @ 0.00063861 = 7.6001 BTC [-]	[14:21]
knotwork	If you are pretty confident bitcoins are just going to generally keep going up and up, are options of much use, or are they generally mostly useful if you are uncertain thus want to hedge against your uncertainty?	[14:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1140 @ 0.00063775 = 0.727 BTC [-]	[14:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00628703 = 4.4009 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8250 @ 0.00623001 = 51.3976 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1589 @ 0.00623 = 9.8995 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1989 @ 0.00621542 = 12.3625 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00610083 = 3.0504 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00610082 = 14.0319 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0060723 = 6.3759 BTC [-]	[14:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.006 = 12 BTC [-]	[14:25]
jurov	snow and frost here too...but also full sunshine :D	[14:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00063825 = 2.936 BTC [+]	[14:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00580003 = 0.58 BTC [-]	[14:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 15481 @ 0.0058 = 89.7898 BTC [-]	[14:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00570008 = 5.7001 BTC [-]	[14:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00556183 = 5.5618 BTC [-]	[14:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00063825 = 0.8297 BTC [+]	[14:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19460 @ 0.00063775 = 12.4106 BTC [-]	[14:41]
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BitHub	nice eskimo, do you have a handicap or just play for fun?	[14:41]
Bowjob	bithub wanna play sfiv	[14:43]
Bowjob	i have the best blanka around!	[14:43]
BitHub	nice	[14:49]
BitHub	hoping to buy some custom fitted clubs this year	[14:49]
Chaang-Noi	lol at pope, i did not even know they could quit	[14:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5190 @ 0.00063332 = 3.2869 BTC [-]	[14:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00063615 = 0.229 BTC [+]	[14:51]
truffles	mustve screwed the wrong nun	[14:53]
BitHub	yeah?	[14:54]
BitHub	was thinking to get ping irons	[14:54]
BitHub	haven't heard of blades, sounds good tho haha	[14:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7098 @ 0.00063615 = 4.5154 BTC [+]	[14:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7622 @ 0.00063615 = 4.8487 BTC [+]	[15:01]
BitHub	haha, pass	[15:03]
BitHub	its like playing with a 1iron every shot	[15:04]
Chaang-Noi	;;market buy 25000	[15:05]
gribble	A market order to buy 25000 bitcoins right now would take 673080.6320 USD and would take the last price up to 31.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 26.9232 USD/BTC.	[15:06]
*	BitHub likes to take a firm grip of a flexible shaft	[15:06]
Chaang-Noi	we were active until the SEC made it clear they were doing their thing	[15:08]
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Chaang-Noi	and when i say we i mean myself and my lawyers, no one else wanted to join in.	[15:09]
Chaang-Noi	they waited for pirated to pay, and then either gave up or joined the SEC	[15:09]
Chaang-Noi	;;market buy 100000	[15:11]
gribble	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 69622.631 bitcoins, for a total of 16223006162626.1738 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.	[15:11]
Chaang-Noi	wow, not even 100k for sale.	[15:12]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00063306 = 8.6729 BTC [-]	[15:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00063615 = 3.6261 BTC [+]	[15:26]
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jurov	everyone is harping about mtgox... meanwhile on bitstamp there are btc to be had at 23.70 still	[15:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6720 @ 0.00063615 = 4.2749 BTC [+]	[15:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6580 @ 0.0006368 = 4.1901 BTC [+]	[15:36]
kakobreklaa	i just sent a few k eurs to stamp :p	[15:37]
kakobreklaa	should be there in a few hours	[15:37]
jurov	yup	[15:38]
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kakobreklaa	no circus	[15:39]
jurov	EskimoBob, i usually get euros on next day, too	[15:39]
jurov	yes	[15:40]
Chaang-Noi	im not sure why you bothered with mt gox lol	[15:42]
jurov	lol i'm raving about it like 5th time around here	[15:42]
Chaang-Noi	you must enjoy pain:)	[15:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9636 @ 0.0006368 = 6.1362 BTC [+]	[15:43]
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kakobreklaa	slovenia will grow larger!	[15:49]
kakobreklaa	y sad face	[15:49]
kakobreklaa	cause?	[15:49]
kakobreklaa	right.	[15:50]
kakobreklaa	you have no clue :)	[15:50]
kakobreklaa	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141638.0	[15:51]
kakobreklaa	ah nvm this is old	[15:52]
kakobreklaa	apparently new to me	[15:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.0006368 = 14.0096 BTC [+]	[15:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5563 @ 0.0006368 = 3.5425 BTC [+]	[16:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3984 @ 0.00063306 = 2.5221 BTC [-]	[16:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4116 @ 0.00063301 = 2.6055 BTC [-]	[16:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC	[16:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0006368 = 2.579 BTC [+]	[16:08]
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jurov	lol bitcoiners got so used to services abruptly ceasing operation	[16:13]
jurov	i got trivial password reset inquiry email, ended with "Hope you are still up and running."	[16:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8284 @ 0.00063301 = 5.2439 BTC [-]	[16:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5616 @ 0.00063186 = 3.5485 BTC [-]	[16:14]
Chaang-Noi	jurov its crazy like that though	[16:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11121 @ 0.0006368 = 7.0819 BTC [+]	[16:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00063807 = 10.911 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00064072 = 1.3775 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064094 = 1.6024 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6676 @ 0.00064173 = 4.2842 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.000642 = 19.0674 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10474 @ 0.00064285 = 6.7332 BTC [+]	[16:29]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]	[16:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.0006373 = 9.0815 BTC [-]	[16:41]
Bugpowder	BREAKING NEWS - http://abcnews.go.com/Health/florida-couple-addicted-coffee-enemas/story?id=18433235	[16:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 426 @ 0.00064285 = 0.2739 BTC [+]	[16:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00064304 = 3.2994 BTC [+]	[16:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064307 = 2.6044 BTC [+]	[16:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4893 @ 0.00064364 = 3.1493 BTC [+]	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	so it's like yuppie meth?	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	people...	[16:48]
Bugpowder	;;asks 25	[16:52]
gribble	There are currently 10748.003 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 265154.999149 USD in total.	[16:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.0006373 = 8.0937 BTC [-]	[17:06]
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jcpham	;;slap Chaang-Noi	[17:11]
*	gribble slaps Chaang-Noi with a sweet double bassoon	[17:11]
abracadabra	not a sweet double babboon?	[17:12]
Chaang-Noi	lol, what was that for! :)	[17:13]
abracadabra	don't mind jcpham, that's just his way of saying hello	[17:13]
Chaang-Noi	:)	[17:13]
jcpham	yes i was saying hello	[17:13]
Chaang-Noi	hello all!	[17:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063909 = 10.2254 BTC [+]	[17:14]
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Chaang-Noi	sadly it is my bed time so i must say good night:)	[17:15]
jcpham	buh bye	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00063909 = 2.0515 BTC [+]	[17:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00063949 = 4.479 BTC [+]	[17:16]
Chaang-Noi	bye jcpham	[17:18]
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mod6	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-11/too-much-european-integration-romanian-donkey-meat-uk-beef-burgers	[17:25]
mod6	lol	[17:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.0006438 = 12.9082 BTC [+]	[17:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.0006438 = 4.5388 BTC [+]	[17:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0006441 = 6.0867 BTC [+]	[17:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00064313 = 11.3834 BTC [-]	[17:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064313 = 3.4729 BTC [-]	[17:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006441 = 7.4716 BTC [+]	[17:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006441 = 1.6747 BTC [+]	[17:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9986 @ 0.00064445 = 6.4355 BTC [+]	[17:44]
DeadWeasel	;;asks 24	[17:50]
gribble	There are currently 896.14344 bitcoins offered at or under 24.0 USD, worth 21450.3202049 USD in total.	[17:50]
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DeadWeasel	;;bids 23.9	[17:50]
gribble	There are currently 1.9573856 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.9 USD, worth 46.7875594469 USD in total.	[17:51]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[17:52]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.88490, Best ask: 23.91835, Bid-ask spread: 0.03345, Last trade: 23.91835, 24 hour volume: 30876.24546559, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.87169	[17:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 514 @ 0.00064445 = 0.3312 BTC [+]	[18:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006446 = 3.3519 BTC [+]	[18:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3154 @ 0.00064485 = 2.0339 BTC [+]	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	I wonder at what BTC value people start complaining about wallet-to-wallet transaction fees	[18:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9106 @ 0.00064313 = 5.8563 BTC [-]	[18:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17712 @ 0.00064351 = 11.3978 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5983 @ 0.0006451 = 3.8596 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064526 = 3.3231 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22721 @ 0.00064544 = 14.665 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16586 @ 0.00064556 = 10.7073 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5987 @ 0.00064581 = 3.8665 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22713 @ 0.00064621 = 14.6774 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8936 @ 0.00064662 = 5.7782 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14784 @ 0.00064698 = 9.565 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6324 @ 0.00064708 = 4.0921 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064721 = 4.0774 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.00064784 = 19.7267 BTC [+]	[18:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52462 @ 0.0006479 = 33.9901 BTC [+]	[18:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4180 @ 0.0006479 = 2.7082 BTC [+]	[18:16]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00064619 = 4.9757 BTC [-]	[18:31]
mod6	;;calc 1000*.0005	[18:31]
gribble	0.5	[18:31]
mod6	;;calc 1000000000000000/11000000	[18:32]
gribble	90909090.9091	[18:32]
mod6	;;calc 90909090*.0005	[18:32]
gribble	45454.545	[18:32]
mod6	HEH	[18:33]
mod6	;;calc 90909090*.00000001	[18:33]
gribble	0.9090909	[18:33]
mod6	o/	[18:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064619 = 6.9789 BTC [-]	[18:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8238 @ 0.00064313 = 5.2981 BTC [-]	[18:35]
jurov	;;bc,convert shenanigans	[18:36]
gribble	1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.	[18:36]
jurov	;;slap assbot	[18:36]
*	gribble slaps assbot with a changeable impalement	[18:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.00064313 = 1.1203 BTC [-]	[18:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4906 @ 0.00064217 = 3.1505 BTC [-]	[18:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4943 @ 0.00063782 = 3.1527 BTC [-]	[18:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00595054 = 11.6036 BTC [+]	[18:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00063782 = 0.8655 BTC [-]	[18:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6943 @ 0.0006373 = 4.4248 BTC [-]	[18:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.0006479 = 0.7775 BTC [+]	[18:59]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[19:01]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.84588, Best ask: 23.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03412, Last trade: 23.84587, 24 hour volume: 30125.82192065, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.89098	[19:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.000644 = 7.245 BTC [-]	[19:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21808 @ 0.0006479 = 14.1294 BTC [+]	[19:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14492 @ 0.00064981 = 9.417 BTC [+]	[19:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3908 @ 0.00064981 = 2.5395 BTC [+]	[19:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064995 = 2.7948 BTC [+]	[19:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8103 @ 0.0006506 = 5.2718 BTC [+]	[19:05]
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DeadWeasel	;;slap gribble	[19:09]
*	gribble slaps gribble with a ruined bombard	[19:09]
DeadWeasel	;;slap DeadWeasel	[19:09]
*	gribble slaps DeadWeasel with a sophisticated limb	[19:10]
*	DeadWeasel likes it	[19:10]
DeadWeasel	!	[19:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5283 @ 0.000644 = 3.4023 BTC [-]	[19:15]
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DeadWeasel	S&M gribble	[19:16]
DeadWeasel	;;slap DeadWeasel	[19:16]
*	gribble slaps DeadWeasel with a lascivious Bitcoin	[19:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4106 @ 0.00064299 = 2.6401 BTC [-]	[19:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064661 = 7.1735 BTC [+]	[19:36]
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jurov	hatefest on #bitcon-otc	[19:38]
jurov	Mircea Popescu, the Bill Gates of Bitcoin. (if billg had porn on microsoft.com)	[19:38]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.96320, Best ask: 23.99677, Bid-ask spread: 0.03357, Last trade: 23.99677, 24 hour volume: 30284.73846546, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.89730	[19:40]
DeadWeasel	30k volume, not very high.	[19:42]
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Bugpowder	24.19!	[19:44]
DeadWeasel	!!	[19:48]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[19:48]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 23.99964, Best ask: 24.03327, Bid-ask spread: 0.03363, Last trade: 24.06130, 24 hour volume: 30690.91383549, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90079	[19:48]
DeadWeasel	350 bitcoins took us there from 23.96	[19:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7606 @ 0.00064456 = 4.9025 BTC [-]	[19:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20694 @ 0.00064757 = 13.4008 BTC [+]	[19:49]
DeadWeasel	would anyone recommend S.BBET?	[19:49]
pigeons	depends what price you get it for	[19:50]
pigeons	you should take EskimoBob's advice and "be your own whale" to pump up the price some ;)	[19:51]
DeadWeasel	So that would require buying say, 300 shares, than buying at successively higher prices at junks of 100 shares?	[19:52]
DeadWeasel	thus creating a market for a 'rising' asset?	[19:52]
Diablo-D3	might as well start bidding on those asicminer shares then	[19:53]
pigeons	no i mean make a bunch of big bets	[19:55]
jurov	again? mass hysteria ensues :)	[19:57]
DeadWeasel	oh, sdice whale	[19:59]
Diablo-D3	;;ticker	[19:59]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.05905, Best ask: 24.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03094, Last trade: 24.05904, 24 hour volume: 30755.51651899, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90272	[19:59]
DeadWeasel	that's not an option for me	[19:59]
DeadWeasel	because it's not profitable	[19:59]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[20:02]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.05767, Best ask: 24.09136, Bid-ask spread: 0.03369, Last trade: 24.05768, 24 hour volume: 30812.67850009, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.90315	[20:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14112 @ 0.0006373 = 8.9936 BTC [-]	[20:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00063714 = 12.2012 BTC [-]	[20:07]
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DeadWeasel	ohmagherd it's dead in here today	[20:08]
DeadWeasel	;;slap deadweasel	[20:08]
*	gribble slaps deadweasel with a finished Bitcoin	[20:08]
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DeadWeasel	I do need to do that, EskimoBob.	[20:12]
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DeadWeasel	I'm just teaching myself to program now. It's slow as I have a full time job.	[20:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4238 @ 0.00063647 = 2.6974 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1490 @ 0.00064757 = 0.9649 BTC [+]	[20:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11067 @ 0.00065011 = 7.1948 BTC [+]	[20:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9099 @ 0.00063186 = 5.7493 BTC [-]	[20:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00063111 = 3.2925 BTC [-]	[20:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14053 @ 0.0006311 = 8.8688 BTC [-]	[20:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.00063054 = 1.7851 BTC [-]	[20:17]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[20:17]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.21001, Best ask: 24.27700, Bid-ask spread: 0.06699, Last trade: 24.21001, 24 hour volume: 30932.81371951, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91140	[20:17]
kakobreklaa	;;bc,covert eur	[20:17]
gribble	Error: "bc,covert" is not a valid command.	[20:17]
kakobreklaa	;;bc,convert eur	[20:17]
gribble	1 BTC = 24.21001 U.S. dollars = 18.0806647 Euros	[20:17]
PsychoticBoy_	Ka-ching	[20:18]
DeadWeasel	this does not seem stable with such low volume.	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	deposits flushed.	[20:18]
DeadWeasel	single user pump and dump?	[20:18]
DeadWeasel	and it looks like there is .5 BTC bot pushing down on the price....	[20:19]
Bugpowder	yeah doing a great job of pushing it down too	[20:20]
DeadWeasel	lol, no.	[20:20]
DeadWeasel	I wonder how many SR users are waiting to get to the bank today, after being snowed in all weekend.	[20:21]
DeadWeasel	i know they are out of Oxycotin already. 3 day weekend.	[20:21]
DeadWeasel	and another one coming up!	[20:21]
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mircea_popescu	what's oxycotin even for ?	[20:23]
ThickAsThieves	pain	[20:24]
DeadWeasel	addicts, the foundation of bitcoin.	[20:24]
ThickAsThieves	oxycontin&	[20:24]
ThickAsThieves	or oxycodone	[20:24]
DeadWeasel	i think that's as good as it gets. If porn can create the internet then addicts can create a new currencyu.	[20:25]
DeadWeasel	EskimoBob: no	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	this entire "sr drives bitcoin" is about as stupid as people thinking cowboy movies drove the us west.	[20:25]
ThickAsThieves	it's certainly "helping" tho	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	well sure.	[20:26]
ThickAsThieves	the best part about SR users is they dont care what the echange rate is	[20:26]
DeadWeasel	there is more activity on SR and their forums than any other bitcoin related activity	[20:26]
DeadWeasel	gambling is huge too, but they are more likely to stop at a certain point	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	DeadWeasel activity on a forum is a very poor representation of anything.	[20:27]
DeadWeasel	it is, that's why it's another solid corner of the pyramind	[20:27]
ThickAsThieves	the SR thing can't last	[20:27]
jurov	where does that "if bitcoin goes up,gambling/sd will subside" come from?	[20:27]
ThickAsThieves	at least not in the US...	[20:27]
DeadWeasel	ThickAsThieves: it also can't be stopped, unless they open every package of mail, which is illegal if it's US POST	[20:28]
ThickAsThieves	USPS is stopping deliveries on Saturdays soon	[20:28]
ThickAsThieves	all those drugs just sitting all weekend	[20:28]
ThickAsThieves	many of the drugs could be sniffed out	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg1519243#msg1519243 one of the sd whales ?	[20:29]
DeadWeasel	they're stopping due to a lack of budget. I doubt they'll hire drug dogs to hang out on weekends.	[20:29]
ThickAsThieves	but you are right, it cant stop entirely	[20:29]
gribble	1 BTC = 24.26943 U.S. dollars = 18.1142185 Euros	[20:30]
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ThickAsThieves	USPS budget isnt where dogs come from	[20:30]
ThickAsThieves	people could just ship on Mondays and be safer	[20:30]
ThickAsThieves	anywho idc	[20:31]
ThickAsThieves	legalize it all	[20:31]
DeadWeasel	Imagine the organization it would take to determine exactly which package is was.	[20:31]
DeadWeasel	ThickAsThieves: i agree,	[20:31]
DeadWeasel	let them OD or not, either way, drug issues sort themselves out.	[20:31]
ThickAsThieves	mp, that guy on your link's last post is inquiring about buying a harley for 450btc, maybe he IS a whale	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	is a harley that cheap ?	[20:33]
jcpham	some are	[20:34]
DeadWeasel	he def bets a lot	[20:34]
ThickAsThieves	used maybe	[20:34]
jborkl	a girls Harley is	[20:34]
jborkl	a sporster	[20:35]
jcpham	yeah i was going to say a sportster	[20:35]
jcpham	you can tack on enough extra to make it not cheap though	[20:35]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/218277/images/Sportster.jpg	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	wtf is this thing. seriously.	[20:35]
ThickAsThieves	he's also buying BFL preorders	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	looks like a husqvarna	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00063768 = 7.9391 BTC [+]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 348 @ 0.00064263 = 0.2236 BTC [+]	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00609434 = 1.2189 BTC [+]	[20:36]
Chilca	anyone has an inside about BFL preorders?	[20:36]
jborkl	you should know	[20:37]
jcpham	i ride an expatriated romanian mule mostly	[20:37]
ThickAsThieves	info on their forum says that the chips will arrive at bumping facility today or tomorrow	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	jcpham as long as its not an ass	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	Chilca http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	could go either way.	[20:38]
Chilca	Yea, I saw in the forum!, Thanks mircea_popescu	[20:38]
Chilca	we bought a few	[20:38]
ThickAsThieves	That bet has a weird qualifier in it	[20:39]
ThickAsThieves	Devices must be in scope of +-10% of advertised performance in order to be accepted as valid.	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	what's weird about that ?	[20:39]
ThickAsThieves	what if the devices are 11% faster than spec'd?	[20:39]
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mircea_popescu	i defy you to deliver any sort of item, no matter what it be, from potatoes or crude oil to combustion engines or lcd monitors	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	that's NOT within 10% and still have it accepted.	[20:40]
ThickAsThieves	my point is,	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	10% is, if anything, mindboggling generous.	[20:40]
ThickAsThieves	what if BFL makes them FASTER	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	they deliver what they say or they fail.	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	doesn't matter.	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	production is about doing what you want, not what comes out.	[20:41]
ThickAsThieves	so if their devices all have a bonus speed of 11%, and ship on time, they still failed to meet the qualitifications?	[20:41]
ThickAsThieves	*deliver on time	[20:41]
ThickAsThieves	qualitifiations, heh	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00063083 = 4.5104 BTC [-]	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12455 @ 0.00063054 = 7.8534 BTC [-]	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6445 @ 0.00062986 = 4.0594 BTC [-]	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	anyway, if they deliver by 1st of march they're grossly NOT on time	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	as the things were supposed to come out in november last or something like that.	[20:43]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	but yes, if they specced 66 and deliver 73 they lose.	[20:43]
Diablo-D3	bfl started a YEAR before everyone else	[20:43]
Diablo-D3	they are REALLY late	[20:43]
ThickAsThieves	i ordered a couple a month ago, I just wanna own em, not worried if they make the money	[20:43]
ThickAsThieves	I surmise that over time theyll be worth it anyway	[20:44]
Diablo-D3	ThickAsThieves: nope	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves one angle i think most people fail to grok is that	[20:44]
Diablo-D3	asicminer will fuck over difficulty for everyone else	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	once btc takes over, these fabled early asics will sell at sotheby's	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	(for btc)	[20:44]
kakobreklaa	last time i checked inaba was making exuses they will likely fail their power req. and lose the bet they made publicly	[20:44]
pigeons	inaba making excuses? no!	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	kakobreklaa last time i heard of him he was getting owned by the girl	[20:44]
Diablo-D3	ThickAsThieves: btw, I suggest you bid on more asicminer shares if you plan on making any money	[20:44]
jborkl	SD about to cross 3 million bets	[20:45]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[20:45]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.20309, Best ask: 24.23694, Bid-ask spread: 0.03385, Last trade: 24.23694, 24 hour volume: 31171.64310858, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91775	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if it ever goes over 1bn bets	[20:45]
ThickAsThieves	diablo, I might, just a matter of whether I can move money around before the deadline...	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	i hope that's a joke	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	asicminer is MAYBE worth 0.08 atm	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	which is still under par.	[20:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3254 = 0.6508 BTC [+]	[20:46]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: lol.	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	if there were a practical way to do it i'd short the entire float.	[20:46]
ThickAsThieves	they seem to be hinting they will go online very soon	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves even so.	[20:46]
Diablo-D3	I dont think mircea_popescu realizes how much hash power asicminer will end up having	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	"end up having".	[20:47]
DeadWeasel	how did namworld's auction go?	[20:47]
Diablo-D3	DeadWeasel: I won half of it	[20:47]
DeadWeasel	last i saw was .51	[20:47]
DeadWeasel	nice!	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	i think he got like .35 or some ungodly thing like that	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	o wow.	[20:47]
ThickAsThieves	if you wanna short it, buy that 5000share seat and promote your auction more than Nam	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	god i wish i could sell 10k of those.	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	no, to short it i'd have to borrow some and sell them.	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	and i wouldn't promote that shit either, it's unconscionable.	[20:48]
DeadWeasel	Diablo-D3: what was the final price?	[20:48]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[20:48]
Diablo-D3	DeadWeasel: see the thread	[20:48]
ThickAsThieves	some people bid like .41 right?	[20:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064024 = 2.1128 BTC [+]	[20:48]
Diablo-D3	yeah	[20:48]
Diablo-D3	asicminer shares should go past 1 btc	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	lol dude, srsly.	[20:49]
ThickAsThieves	also, as far as buying the BFLs I did, like I said, I just wanna own a couple miners, I have a lot of "gizmos"	[20:49]
DeadWeasel	at work, look it up later. glad you won though Diablo-D3	[20:49]
ThickAsThieves	i wanna make sure I understand somehting about how the blockchain works,	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30855 @ 0.00062986 = 19.4343 BTC [-]	[20:50]
ThickAsThieves	if bitcoin transaction volume increased like 1000x	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062884 = 7.3574 BTC [-]	[20:50]
ThickAsThieves	mining difficulty drops a lot right?	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4972 @ 0.00062786 = 3.1217 BTC [-]	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00062766 = 12.1138 BTC [-]	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173 @ 0.00062729 = 0.1085 BTC [-]	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	not at all.	[20:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00062706 = 0.5957 BTC [-]	[20:50]
Diablo-D3	I wish I had the money to buy all of asicminer	[20:51]
Diablo-D3	all 200k shares	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	this is why you don't have a lot of money.	[20:51]
ThickAsThieves	so how will the system deal with confirming that many transactions	[20:51]
ThickAsThieves	like what if there were 1000 satoshidice.coms	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves blocks currently can only cointain 1mb of data	[20:51]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: dude, if I had all of asiicminer	[20:52]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I'd basically own most of the hashing power out there	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	so miners would prolly sort out the txs by fee/bytes	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 you get excited too easily. things don't work like they could	[20:52]
DeadWeasel	yup, start sending a fee at that point if want immediate includsion in the blockchain	[20:52]
ThickAsThieves	so the fee revenue would go up a lot	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	things work like they work.	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves yes.	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	conceivably.	[20:52]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I am very unexcitable	[20:52]
ThickAsThieves	and fee revenue goes into blocks?	[20:53]
gribble	1 BTC = 24.21231 U.S. dollars = 18.0715853 Euros	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that made no sense.	[20:53]
ThickAsThieves	just trying to fully graspo this	[20:53]
ThickAsThieves	where do fees go?	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	a tx is (x+y+z) btc input (k+l+m) btc output.	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	if input > output the difference is kept by whoever mines the blokc	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	if that difference divided by the tx length is high everyone mining will want to include it in their block	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	if its low nobody would include it unless there's space	[20:54]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: it isnt yet	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	think like the blocks are train wagons, and the tx are people. the fee is what they pay	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	if a 200lb woman offers 10 bux she waits	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	if some 75lb dood offers 100 bux he gets in	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	right	[20:55]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: the auctions are manual, yes	[20:55]
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ThickAsThieves	so when the last new bitcoin is mined, miners mine for the fees only?	[20:55]
Diablo-D3	it was on glbse	[20:55]
Diablo-D3	ThickAsThieves: yes	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves exactly	[20:55]
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Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: look in the auctions forum, several people are selling their shares	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	so, say it's 2015 and 50% of the world is using bitcoin	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	ok.	[20:56]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: friedcat is going to be putting his own exchange up	[20:56]
Diablo-D3	heh	[20:56]
Diablo-D3	THEN WHY ASK	[20:56]
ThickAsThieves	you could potentially still make monet	[20:56]
ThickAsThieves	money*	[20:56]
ThickAsThieves	mininhg	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	surely.	[20:56]
pigeons	Homomorphic Payment Addresses and the Pay-to-Contract Protocol http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.3257	[20:56]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob: because it kind of already is	[20:56]
pigeons	from https://github.com/bcpki/bitcoin/blob/master/README.md	[20:56]
Diablo-D3	because thats not my choice	[20:57]
ThickAsThieves	i guess what i'm trying to confirm is, that all these charts miners are working on, and trying to predict difficulty are all totally thrown out the window if rapid bitcoin adoption happens	[20:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4944 @ 0.00062706 = 3.1002 BTC [-]	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves yes.	[20:57]
ThickAsThieves	ok i'm done, thx :)	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	the "charts" people like that idiot on reddit are working on are bs anyway	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	for so many different reasons it doesn't even matter that adoption would skew	[20:58]
gribble	1 BTC = 24.28302 U.S. dollars = 18.1243618 Euros	[20:58]
DeadWeasel	DeaDTerra: what is XRP?	[20:58]
pigeons	"ripples" ripple.com transaction fee currency	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5606 @ 0.00062706 = 3.5153 BTC [-]	[20:59]
pigeons	very rare only 10 billion	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4244 @ 0.00062683 = 2.6603 BTC [-]	[20:59]
jcpham	who needs xrp?	[20:59]
ThickAsThieves	brokers that use bitfunder?	[21:00]
pigeons	;)	[21:00]
jcpham	1btc for 100k xrp?	[21:00]
jcpham	yowsers	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	wait, so supposedly xrp mkt cap is 100k btc ?	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	in what parallel universe this ?!	[21:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064024 = 8.5152 BTC [+]	[21:01]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: how many BTC do you have?	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	a bunch	[21:02]
Diablo-D3	more than 100k?	[21:02]
pigeons	Diablo-D3: how small is your dick?	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[21:02]
Diablo-D3	more than 400k?	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	maybe.	[21:02]
jcpham	i'll sell 500 xrp for 1 btc DeaDTerra	[21:03]
Diablo-D3	how many people do you think have more than 400k?	[21:03]
Diablo-D3	or hell, more than 1k	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	more than 1k at least 1k	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	more than 400k maybe a dozen, if that.	[21:03]
*	jcpham raises hand	[21:03]
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Diablo-D3	okay so	[21:04]
Diablo-D3	do you think it'd be possible to raise a little over 400k btc to start a datacenter catering to high density computation customers?	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[21:05]
Diablo-D3	even if it was done in bonds that pay the equiv of 5% annually for ten years?	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	your 400k would be a very big 4% stake out of all bitcoin. your datacenter would be an inconsequential 0.0001% of all datacenters	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	which is an inconsequential 0.0000% of all fiat.	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	trades happen if and only if the % of btc you give away	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	gets a larger % of fiat in exchange.	[21:06]
Diablo-D3	yes, but it would have 100-150 racks profiting 10k USD a month	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	makes no diff.	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	400k btc just went from 14 each to 24 each	[21:07]
Diablo-D3	;;calc 10000 * 150	[21:07]
gribble	1500000	[21:07]
Diablo-D3	;;calc 10000 * 150 / 24	[21:07]
gribble	62500	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064196 = 13.8021 BTC [+]	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5902 @ 0.00064263 = 3.7928 BTC [+]	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1633 @ 0.00065011 = 1.0616 BTC [+]	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 497 @ 0.0006506 = 0.3233 BTC [+]	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00065122 = 5.34 BTC [+]	[21:07]
Diablo-D3	it'd generate 62.5k bitcoins a month.	[21:07]
iz	;;calc 400000 * (24 - 14)	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00065302 = 5.616 BTC [+]	[21:07]
gribble	4000000	[21:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13070 @ 0.00065318 = 8.5371 BTC [+]	[21:07]
Bugpowder	yeaa	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	you will eventualyl be able to finance fiat endeavours in btc, but prolly after btc mkt cap passes 1 trillion.	[21:07]
Diablo-D3	DeaDTerra: Im not going to let nefario sink this ship	[21:07]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: DMC could cause btc to reach $1000	[21:08]
Diablo-D3	DeaDTerra: not really.	[21:08]
Diablo-D3	DeaDTerra: it never left the dock.	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	for now the deals that make sense to finance in btc are the deals that bring btc.	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	if you made a btc-taking datacenter. problem is the btc paying customers aren't doing more than maybe a few ks worth a year	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	so your mkt cap is probably under 50k btc or something like that.	[21:11]
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Bugpowder	wouldn't it make more sense to manage an existing datacenter	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	it probably would.	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	arguably it'd be a good idea to make a btc-level secure btc	[21:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6570 @ 0.00064415 = 4.2321 BTC [-]	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	somewhere in a free country, with good safety in place	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	and sell guaranteed space.	[21:13]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I would accept btc, btw	[21:13]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: no, most datacenters are pretty much fucked	[21:13]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: they arent upgrading to handle customer demands and are massively wasting space	[21:13]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: the only way to win is to come out of nowhere and eat their lunch	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	you're not eating anyone's lunch	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	the reason they're sloppy is that there's so much govt demand for them	[21:15]
Diablo-D3	sloppy doesnt bring the money in	[21:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00065318 = 3.7721 BTC [+]	[21:17]
Diablo-D3	many datacenters are not accepting new customers because they're "full"	[21:17]
Diablo-D3	yet half their rack space is wasted because of mismanagement	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	you're still not eating their lunch.	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	they're not making a loss.	[21:19]
DeadWeasel	not yet, not without a great plan.	[21:19]
DeadWeasel	and capital, and 12 hour work days for the next several years	[21:19]
DeadWeasel	then, maybe.	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	even with all that. they'll be fine, you'll make a little more per sq foot	[21:19]
DeadWeasel	which would be a nice business.	[21:22]
DeadWeasel	Diablo-D3: i agree with you on the state of the industry.	[21:22]
DeadWeasel	there is room for improvement.	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 3 @ 0.2192369 = 0.6577 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C220T] 3 @ 0.18744462 = 0.5623 BTC	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	problem is, a datacenter is something a multi-billion company makes. in fact, it's about on the level of building a nuclear plant.	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	heck, if one had any sense they'd build them together.	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	a nuclear plant and a datacenter.	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	to use all its power.	[21:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9231 @ 0.00064415 = 5.9461 BTC [-]	[21:25]
pigeons	much smaller companies than that make datacenters, just as nice or nicer than the big ones, but less capacity	[21:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00064189 = 2.5477 BTC [-]	[21:26]
pigeons	everybody wants you to survive a nuclear strike even if you're just making toys	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	im just thinking its so commodified it's probably the case economies of scale rule.	[21:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13 BTC [+]	[21:26]
pigeons	yeah i find that	[21:26]
pigeons	but some people (over?)pay just to be "in house. and definately overpay for uptime they dont need	[21:27]
pigeons	i frequently say why the fuck do you think this place will last, you could just build one the next county over where everything is cheaper, the next country over where you can use slaves and pollute, etc	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	slaves is always nice.	[21:28]
pigeons	well "cheaper labor"	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	people who take their work seriously.	[21:29]
pigeons	yeah	[21:30]
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markedathome	has there been some sort of glbse payout today from either glbse or btcsyn?	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	not that i heard of.	[21:33]
markedathome	around 1530gmt	[21:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205 @ 0.00065318 = 0.1339 BTC [+]	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	there's been a lot of bitcoin sindicate drama on the forum tho	[21:33]
markedathome	saw that, but I didn't think that anything was happening from glasswalker's side until tomorrow/wednesday as he was 'away on personal business/attending a wedding' according to last email	[21:34]
markedathome	or have I randomly been given some btc?	[21:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25395 @ 0.00065362 = 16.5987 BTC [+]	[21:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00064189 = 0.5809 BTC [-]	[21:35]
Bugpowder	I love when that happens	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	1. My God, What is this?	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	Yes, the dog will tell you.	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	for some reason the this is dog meme is really hard on foreigners.	[21:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00065516 = 2.3913 BTC [+]	[21:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18926 @ 0.00065549 = 12.4058 BTC [+]	[21:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4928 @ 0.00065549 = 3.2303 BTC [+]	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	2. MPSIC what?	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	The term stands for the standard identification code Pvpskvmybashd Mrsya.	[21:36]
Bugpowder	upupup	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	ok, fuck me...	[21:36]
mod6	lol @ this comment on superbowl bitbet: How can the Ravens be such underdogs when they have Capn' Stabbin Ray Lewis, ...	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	is he good ?	[21:37]
Bugpowder	he was 10 years ago	[21:38]
Bugpowder	then he (or his friends) murdered someone outside the club after a SuperBowl in 2000	[21:39]
Bugpowder	got off	[21:39]
Bugpowder	o hai!	[21:39]
jcpham	bitches be trippin	[21:39]
Bugpowder	;;ticker	[21:39]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.41768, Bid-ask spread: 0.01768, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 32455.87760636, 24 hour low: 23.50000, 24 hour high: 24.41769, 24 hour vwap: 23.97896	[21:39]
jcpham	gettin stabbed	[21:39]
Bugpowder	STAB THE BEARZ	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	i c	[21:39]
Bugpowder	;;bids 24.40	[21:39]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 24.4 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.	[21:39]
jcpham	bam	[21:40]
jcpham	up	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	;;bids 30	[21:40]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.	[21:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17272 @ 0.00065549 = 11.3216 BTC [+]	[21:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28 @ 0.00065555 = 0.0184 BTC [+]	[21:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00064189 = 2.4713 BTC [-]	[21:49]
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mircea_popescu	Chilca btw, were you doing qa spanish mpex faq ?	[21:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7638 BTC [-]	[21:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3476 @ 0.00064189 = 2.2312 BTC [-]	[21:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9714 @ 0.00063776 = 6.1952 BTC [-]	[21:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7360 @ 0.00063066 = 4.6417 BTC [-]	[21:55]
DeadWeasel	;;ticker	[22:04]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.19720, Best ask: 24.23107, Bid-ask spread: 0.03387, Last trade: 24.19334, 24 hour volume: 33722.82880541, 24 hour low: 23.54000, 24 hour high: 24.44000, 24 hour vwap: 23.99748	[22:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064312 = 4.0517 BTC [+]	[22:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0249 = 0.0996 BTC [+]	[22:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.0249 = 0.2739 BTC [+]	[22:06]
Bugpowder_	;;asks 25	[22:07]
gribble	There are currently 7707.7138 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 191236.44685 USD in total.	[22:07]
Bugpowder_	;;bids 23	[22:07]
gribble	There are currently 7865.8976 bitcoins demanded at or over 23.0 USD, worth 183422.259511 USD in total.	[22:07]
Bugpowder_	:)	[22:07]
Bugpowder_	;;asks 29.5	[22:07]
gribble	There are currently 16509.353 bitcoins offered at or under 29.5 USD, worth 428037.241778 USD in total.	[22:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.025 = 1 BTC [+]	[22:08]
Bugpowder_	;;bids 22	[22:08]
gribble	There are currently 17945.695 bitcoins demanded at or over 22.0 USD, worth 409683.330498 USD in total.	[22:08]
Bugpowder_	:D	[22:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+]	[22:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [+]	[22:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00064312 = 1.7686 BTC [+]	[22:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00065555 = 11.2427 BTC [+]	[22:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00065176 = 13.4263 BTC [-]	[22:14]
DeadWeasel	;;bc,24hprc	[22:16]
gribble	23.93	[22:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7644 = 1.5288 BTC [+]	[22:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00065176 = 0.1304 BTC [-]	[22:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17337 @ 0.00064004 = 11.0964 BTC [-]	[22:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[22:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.76380001 = 1.5276 BTC [-]	[22:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7638 = 3.0552 BTC [-]	[22:26]
maximian	looks like havelock needs to add some more s.dice shares	[22:29]
Bugpowder_	They have 1,000,000 shares	[22:29]
Bugpowder_	900,000 actually	[22:29]
maximian	it's trading high relative to mpex	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	!ticker h sdice	[22:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.71999000 / 0.74751773 / 0.76500000 (22 shares, 16.44539002 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.62747513 / 0.76500000 (6394 shares, 4012.07597940 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.64105367 / 0.89000000 (10577 shares, 6780.42462184 BTC)	[22:30]
Bugpowder_	yeah	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	74s yea	[22:30]
Bugpowder_	If I were topace	[22:30]
Bugpowder_	I would buy some and dump	[22:30]
Bugpowder_	on havelock	[22:30]
maximian	yep, same here	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	well so buy 100k amnd push it to him	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	i think he converts neh ?	[22:30]
Bugpowder_	not that direction	[22:31]
Bugpowder_	:)	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:31]
maximian	does he do that?	[22:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6172 @ 0.00065555 = 4.0461 BTC [+]	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	maybe ask ? i thought it was discussed	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	couldn't swear to it	[22:31]
DeadWeasel	this is where evoorhees comes in and announces the NEXT TRANCHE!	[22:31]
Bugpowder_	they have about 40,000 shares of bid at .0065 and above	[22:31]
maximian	lol	[22:32]
Bugpowder_	like... free money dudes	[22:32]
Bugpowder_	just like picking up S.MPOE at .00062	[22:32]
Bugpowder_	FREE MONEY	[22:32]
maximian	nobody seems to think so…. or the people who do are tapped out	[22:33]
maximian	like me!	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	and then they ask how does btc finance drive the btc.	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	welllll...	[22:34]
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jurov	DeadWeasel this is eerie	[22:39]
jurov	welcome evoorhees	[22:40]
mircea_popescu	6 minutes lol	[22:40]
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truffles	how does btc finance drive teh btc?	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	people getting tapped out.	[22:44]
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truffles	i was going to respond to that article but u seem busy mp	[22:44]
truffles	the one about stoopids	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	so go ahead	[22:45]
truffles	gee cant i get to complain a lil	[22:45]
truffles	fine i will !	[22:45]
truffles	oh i saw somethign about UK making ads to tell the Romanians to stay out cuz UK not so good lol	[22:46]
truffles	http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/2686/uk-cannot-afford-eu-open-borders-any-longer	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3228 @ 0.00065559 = 2.1162 BTC [+]	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	welfare state collapsing all over the world	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	why's that notable	[22:48]
truffles	cuz they dont want Romanians and some other country taking the jobs?	[22:48]
truffles	u know its GREAT britian	[22:48]
truffles	Bulgarians	[22:49]
jurov	maybe ask in #bitcoin-otc-uk	[22:49]
truffles	heh	[22:49]
truffles	how many bitcoin channels are there geez	[22:49]
jurov	some dood insisted they need own channel	[22:49]
jurov	without these rm	[22:49]
jurov	romanians i suppose	[22:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064286 = 10.2858 BTC [-]	[22:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064004 = 5.3763 BTC [-]	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	it's funny tho, cause they call them romanians but it's mostly gypsies	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	who, you know, love to travel.	[22:50]
truffles	gypsies so hated for no reason	[22:51]
jcpham	expatriated romanian donkey refugess	[22:51]
jcpham	*refugees	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:53]
kakobreklaa	did you hear about the romania, horses and france?	[22:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00064004 = 9.0246 BTC [-]	[22:54]
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truffles	lets hear it	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	lol yeah	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	it was funny cause that morning i had horse salami for breakfast	[22:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00064004 = 5.0563 BTC [-]	[22:56]
kakobreklaa	i like horse meat a lot	[22:56]
kakobreklaa	and they complain.	[22:56]
kakobreklaa	wackos.	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	well, if i ordered chicken curry and got pork curry i'd prolly say something	[22:57]
truffles	horse meat found in 16 EU countries	[22:57]
kakobreklaa	not if it tastes better and you dont know what it is.	[22:57]
truffles	thanks france!	[22:57]
mircea_popescu	it'd be pretty out there for me to not know what it is	[22:57]
kakobreklaa	maybe you got pork in your horse salame what do you know	[22:58]
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truffles	i hear horse meat is delicious	[22:58]
kakobreklaa	i taste horse meat is delicious	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	its pretty good yeah	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	there's this traditional salami thing in romania	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	it's sort of like cheese (ie, grows a special mold)	[22:59]
Lyspooner	moldy romanian horse sausage ftw	[23:00]
Lyspooner	hello all	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	http://www.recolta.eu/media/arhiva/salam-de-sibiu.jpeg	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	that sort of thing.	[23:00]
mircea_popescu	course by now it's industrially produced, they put pork in it etfc.	[23:00]
Lyspooner	mircea_popescu you should take mpex.com away from the midwest photo exchange	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	there's a bunch of things on the mpex name	[23:02]
Lyspooner	it will make you more money	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	Membrane Protein Explorer (MPEx)	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	Prosoniq MPEX	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	The Maryland Physics Expectations Survey (MPEX)	[23:02]
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mircea_popescu	The Manufacturing Productivity Extension (MPEX) Program	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	why be an ass about it ?	[23:02]
Lyspooner	not an ass! a big swinging dick!	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:03]
Lyspooner	just email jim@mpex.com (srsly) and give him an offer	[23:03]
mircea_popescu	what, 10 bux ?	[23:04]
Lyspooner	maybe just put your exchange somewhere between "lenses" and "lighting&studio"	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	Balance Sheet: Feb 1, 2013	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	Short-term Assets	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	Cash: BTC 815.51 (majority locked in Bitcoinica liquidation)	[23:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8043 @ 0.00064004 = 5.1478 BTC [-]	[23:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3907 @ 0.00063496 = 2.4808 BTC [-]	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	someone explain to me how this guy's mind works	[23:06]
Lyspooner	who is that	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	unreceivables = short term assets ?	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	yochdog of all people.	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	wait, it gets better	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	Accounts receivable: 0	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	ASIC pre-orders, not delivered: $8,000	[23:07]
truffles	lets hear how mp's mind work though	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	his short term is made out of accounts he can't collect and items he won't receive.	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	maybe he thinks "short" means "missing"	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	like "i'm a dollar short"	[23:08]
truffles	how much is polimedia subscription	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	you mean for the blog ?	[23:09]
truffles	to view it	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	whatever you want. a btc = 20000 credits atm	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[23:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 24.36557, Best ask: 24.39955, Bid-ask spread: 0.03398, Last trade: 24.39955, 24 hour volume: 34302.41282646, 24 hour low: 23.54000, 24 hour high: 24.47002, 24 hour vwap: 24.01793	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	24017 to be precise	[23:09]
truffles	well u know my stance	[23:10]
truffles	next time dont post it there	[23:10]
truffles	reddits better :)	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	uh. you have a stance ?	[23:10]
truffles	yes several	[23:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00063787 = 7.3036 BTC [+]	[23:18]
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Lyspooner	anyone have experience buying bitcoins on kapiton.se?	[23:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00063787 = 4.3203 BTC [+]	[23:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 508 @ 0.00063496 = 0.3226 BTC [-]	[23:28]
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thestringpuller	dont buy trilemma credits	[23:32]
thestringpuller	i got 1000 and my ip change and mircea_popescu is refusing customer support :(	[23:32]
truffles	thats just terrible	[23:33]
*	truffles gets the angry mob	[23:33]
truffles	u wrote them and no response?	[23:34]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu can I get my credits updated :P	[23:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7260 @ 0.0006341 = 4.6036 BTC [-]	[23:36]
jcpham	can i get a reach around?	[23:36]
truffles	yanks	[23:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8324 @ 0.00064027 = 5.3296 BTC [+]	[23:36]
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thestringpuller	yup my credits is gone	[23:36]
thestringpuller	:P	[23:37]
thestringpuller	instead I will just hack the paywall like i have been doing	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller um... didn't you get a pw ?	[23:37]
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truffles	angry mobs are just waiting around the corner if this isnt sorted!	[23:39]
thestringpuller	lol	[23:39]
thestringpuller	no no pw	[23:39]
thestringpuller	you did it based on my ip	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	a well then.	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	get your ip back.	[23:39]
thestringpuller	lololol	[23:41]
Lyspooner	it seems like the options expiring next month have a low open interest. go spend some btc on marketing	[23:41]
truffles	internet id is how they roll over there?	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	well, the way trilema credits work is you can have them by pw or by ip	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	if you have them by ip and lose the ip you lose the credits.	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	if you have them by pw and lose the pw you lose the credits.	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	so... either way. buy moar.	[23:42]
truffles	what kind b.s. is this	[23:43]
truffles	no backups or recovery methods??	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	this is bitcoin.	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[23:43]
truffles	why not	[23:43]
pigeons	buy 100 btc worth and take him to rota	[23:43]
Lyspooner	start listing quarterly options... your bot can handle longer-dated options	[23:43]
truffles	shit happens	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	customer is responsible for his own enjoyment.	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	Lyspooner there's zero uptake of the march ones as it is	[23:43]
Lyspooner	that's a marketing issue	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	truffles so if shit happens then why are we discussing it ?	[23:43]
Lyspooner	the contracts are well-designed	[23:43]
truffles	customer needs help sorting his shit	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	Lyspooner perhaps, but until it is resolved i see little point in adding even longer terms	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	truffles that's sad for him now isn't it.	[23:44]
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truffles	unhappy customer is not good for business!	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	i don't happen to care.	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	i would much rather the consumer type customer dies hungry	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	than make me rich	[23:45]
Lyspooner	mircea_popescu, the miners need to hedge longer exposure than two months, especially when dealing with asic dealers	[23:45]
truffles	scrooge	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	Lyspooner the miners are roughly too clueless to comprehend x.idiff and why they can't run without them	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	in spite of ample marketing effort directed at their dumbass.	[23:45]
Lyspooner	that makes me sad	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	not as sad as it makes me.	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139787.0 check that shit out	[23:46]
truffles	lets all throw rotten tomatoes at mp	[23:46]
*	truffles throw tomato	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	truffles you new here i take it.	[23:46]
truffles	yes	[23:46]
truffles	i think im here approaching a week now	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	so there's this new doohickey called a bitcoin.	[23:46]
*	[\] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	what it does is two things : it fucks governments so they can no longer finance welfarism	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	and it fucks over people so they can no longer expect others solve their shit for them	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	i love it equally for both reasons.	[23:47]
truffles	welfare is good for those who are disabled	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	i think you're not paying attention.	[23:47]
pigeons	take it to -politics	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	i am not trying to coopt your cooperation. i'm just telling you how it is.	[23:47]
truffles	but the ppl who like solving solve	[23:47]
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Lyspooner	how far out does x.diff go	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	full year.	[23:48]
Lyspooner	yeah, that's being underutilized	[23:48]
jborkl	Tell that to all the taxes I pay and I don't get shit back - ever	[23:48]
truffles	nobody thinks about the handicapers	[23:48]
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mircea_popescu	Lyspooner way. look here : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/how-to-hedge-as-a-miner/	[23:49]
Lyspooner	however, in the miners' defense, i don't think there is much paper interest on the other side of the transaction	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	there's plenty of speculative money on mpex, and they're not putting the orders in the book anyway	[23:49]
truffles	oh look another trilema linkey	[23:49]
truffles	tl dr	[23:50]
jcpham	tl:dr lots of numbers	[23:50]
truffles	oops didnt click	[23:50]
truffles	lol	[23:50]
pigeons	just use a proxy truffles	[23:50]
truffles	for what	[23:50]
Lyspooner	i think that you are not going to be successful at anything truffles, no matter by what standard you measure things	[23:51]
truffles	i havent found a really reliable proxy server for free so meh	[23:51]
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pigeons	see what you did	[23:51]
truffles	omg	[23:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063265 = 3.1 BTC [-]	[23:52]
truffles	he cant just say that and leave	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[23:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5364 @ 0.00063066 = 3.3829 BTC [-]	[23:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00063046 = 3.5621 BTC [-]	[23:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 686 @ 0.00062858 = 0.4312 BTC [-]	[23:52]
truffles	if there's anything holding me back its procrastination	[23:53]
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truffles	def gonna stalk that guy damit	[23:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5423 @ 0.00062858 = 3.4088 BTC [-]	[23:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3177 @ 0.00062683 = 1.9914 BTC [-]	[23:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.758 = 7.58 BTC [-]	[23:59]
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