Forum logs for 11 Aug 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
scoopbot_revived Copay Multisig Vulnerability Reported http://qntra.net/2015/08/copay-multisig-vulnerability-reported/ [00:02]
lobbes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233054 << made a few config changes to it; was set to check feeds every 2 minutes, now checks every 30. Currently monitoring it on my test channel. [00:05]
assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 03:13:24; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can we has the bot back plz ? [00:05]
lobbes This is just a workaround, though. I still have to discern where in the code it zeros out the cache. So I'm not confident putting back into 'production' just yet. [00:05]
BingoBoingo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dDe4I92UUt4/VZmCn6pWpMI/AAAAAAAALqc/hHuRqfGUUo4/s400/IMG_3315.JPG [00:06]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJ7EWy ) [00:06]
Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, you know the Coinspect blog post is more than a year old right ? [00:07]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: It was brought to my attention today and the story has an important moral. Don't set conditions for letting a machine automatically sign your shit. [00:08]
BingoBoingo Because that's probably the next -XT feature. [00:09]
mircea_popescu Fri, 07/25/2014 darn [00:09]
mircea_popescu well, i never noticed. [00:09]
Apocalyptic yeah that's worthwhile to point out, just that it's not really newsworthy [00:09]
BingoBoingo Eh, I'll remove the "news" tag [00:09]
BingoBoingo At least it happened before Qntra [00:12]
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mircea_popescu soo, somewhat interesting, maybe. 1984 was actually born at a precise place : "In nationalist thought there are facts which are both true and untrue, known and unknown. A known fact may be so unbearable that it is habitually pushed aside and not allowed to enter into logical processes, or on the other hand it may enter into every calculation and yet never be admitted as a fact, even in one's own mind." appears in a 194 [00:14]
mircea_popescu 5 piece denouncing "nationalism". which, at the time, simply denoted what socialism (or "liberalism" as it usually self-identifies) denotes today : the ideology of stupid people. [00:14]
mircea_popescu meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit : [00:14]
mircea_popescu "Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should–in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918–and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to plain forgery. Ma [00:14]
mircea_popescu terial facts are suppressed, dates altered, quotations removed from their context and doctored so as to change their meaning. Events which it is felt ought not to have happened are left unmentioned and ultimately denied [Note, below]. In 1927 Chiang Kai Shek boiled hundreds of Communists alive, and yet within ten years he had become one of the heroes of the Left. The re-alignment of world politics had brought him into [00:14]
mircea_popescu the anti-Fascist camp, and so it was felt that the boiling of the Communists 'didn't count', or perhaps had not happened. The primary aim of propaganda is, of course, to influence contemporary opinion, but those who rewrite history do probably believe with part of their minds that they are actually thrusting facts into the past. When one considers the elaborate forgeries that have been committed in order to show that T [00:14]
mircea_popescu rotsky did not play a valuable part in the Russian civil war, it is difficult to feel that the people responsible are merely lying. More probably they feel that their own version was what happened in the sight of God, and that one is justified in rearranging the records accordingly." [00:14]
mircea_popescu replace "nationalist" with "socialist" (or, if you prefer to use the self term, "liberal") and note how the ideology of the stupid still behaves today in the manner it behaved then. [00:15]
mircea_popescu thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on. [00:16]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234099 << l0l [00:19]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 02:51:24; mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie [00:19]
mircea_popescu well ? [00:19]
asciilifeform that cock isn't even parked [00:20]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234126 << linked it here at least 3 times l0l [00:21]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 03:14:33; mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit : [00:21]
mats i am fond of that actress [00:21]
mircea_popescu i'm slow. [00:21]
asciilifeform !s nationalist is haunted by the belief [00:21]
assbot 2 results for 'nationalist is haunted by the belief' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nationalist+is+haunted+by+the+belief [00:21]
mircea_popescu mats you know her ? [00:21]
mats nah. i know of her [00:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform except it pointedly has nothing to do with "nationalist" [00:22]
mircea_popescu it's just the twerp who wants to "be part of something" [00:22]
mircea_popescu "and help change the world" [00:22]
mats you know, in her professional capacity as an actress. [00:22]
asciilifeform it had to do with certain folks of the period who did, well, what mr o describes [00:22]
asciilifeform but not 'nationalist' in the usual sense, no [00:22]
mircea_popescu yeah, because they didn't have reddit yet. same govt jobs, tho. [00:22]
asciilifeform approximately. [00:22]
asciilifeform also related: [00:23]
asciilifeform 'ONE way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary. Looking back through the diary I kept in 1940 and 1941 I find that I was usually wrong when it was possible to be wrong. Yet I was not so wrong as the Military Experts. Experts of various schools were telling us in 1939 that the Maginot Line was impregnable, and that the Russo-German Pact had put an end to Hitler’s eastwards expansion; in early 1940 they were telling us [00:23]
asciilifeform that the days of tank warfare were over; in mid 1940 they were telling us that the Germans would invade Britain forthwith; in mid 1941 that the Red army would fold up in six weeks; in December 1941, that Japan would collapse after ninety days; in July 1942, that Egypt was lost and so on, more or less indefinitely. Where now are the men who told us those things? Still on the job, drawing fat salaries. Instead of the unsinkable [00:23]
asciilifeform battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .' [00:23]
asciilifeform ( http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/tribune/AsIPlease19431217.html ) [00:24]
assbot 17 December 1943 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzTnjj ) [00:24]
mircea_popescu "(iii) COLOUR FEELING. The old-style contemptuous attitude towards 'natives' has been much weakened in England, and various pseudo-scientific theories emphasising the superiority of the white race have been abandoned.[Note, below] Among the intelligentsia, colour feeling only occurs in the transposed form, that is, as a belief in the innate superiority of the coloured races. This is now increasingly common among Englis [00:24]
mircea_popescu h intellectuals, probably resulting more often from masochism and sexual frustration than from contact with the Oriental and Negro nationalist movements." [00:24]
mircea_popescu ha! [00:24]
mircea_popescu i guess i restated orwell. [00:24]
asciilifeform hey whatcanyado, man had eyes, saw. [00:24]
mats i found out today my former verizon wireless grandfathered unlimited plan is worth 1k on ebay [00:24]
mircea_popescu moreover, the purely sexual drive of the entire "black superiority" notion held strictly by pencilnecked white guys is glaring. [00:24]
mats craziness [00:25]
mircea_popescu mats get used to it. this is how socialism goes. [00:25]
asciilifeform mats: prolly not really transferable [00:25]
mircea_popescu grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones" [00:25]
asciilifeform prolly most famous example in the world is nyc flats [00:26]
mats you can transfer ownership to someone else, i met a guy today that bought it [00:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "rent controlled" ones, yes [00:26]
asciilifeform them. [00:26]
BingoBoingo battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .' << The "men" were defeating "analysis" [00:26]
mats he travels for work and the plan is entirely unthrottled, uses 3-400gb of LTE every month [00:26]
asciilifeform mats: it is unclear to me what precisely obligates verizon to keep renewing these contracts [00:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00059484 = 12.9675 BTC [-] [00:27]
asciilifeform it isn't the rental of hongkong, there were no spans denominated in centuries in there [00:27]
mats prob customer loyalty [00:27]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234169 << when i was in timis., my brain melted upon seeing what looked very much like my childhood dumpsters [00:29]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 03:25:45; mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones" [00:29]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234132 << mozart did have a sister. who, iirc, did not compose, but played passably [00:32]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 03:16:11; mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on. [00:32]
BingoBoingo Oh, apparently reddit admins just straight up changed the moderators of /r/PunchableFaces [00:33]
asciilifeform much of what we know of the man's mind comes from letters to his sister, srsly [00:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform did you see the film ? [00:33]
asciilifeform no film [00:33]
asciilifeform just the letters [00:33]
mircea_popescu is what i was speaking towards. [00:33]
asciilifeform what film [00:33]
mircea_popescu libertards made a film about "mozart as a woman", but not actually insane enough to just do it, so it came out a sort of pancake. [00:34]
asciilifeform l0l! [00:34]
mircea_popescu it cost me some stuff i won't disclose, [00:34]
mircea_popescu i had a long standing bet that the "nationalists" will make a "shakespeare was a woman. rly. " attempt at rewriting history to fit the agenda [00:34]
mircea_popescu or you know, what they perceive is right in god's eye. [00:35]
asciilifeform they also have a long-standing idiocy re: einstein, on same pattern [00:35]
asciilifeform he is also in the queue for a film, i imagie. [00:35]
mircea_popescu "Nationalistic attachment to the coloured races is usually mixed up with the belief that their sex lives are superior, and there is a large underground mythology about the sexual prowess of Negroes." [00:35]
asciilifeform *imagine [00:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform is his female name noether ? [00:35]
asciilifeform nah that would make some semblance of sense [00:35]
mircea_popescu this is perhaps the most objectionable part of these fried chicken niggers, clogging government with their unwelcome corpses. [00:35]
asciilifeform the liberast version is instead that 'he stole from his ex-wife' [00:36]
mircea_popescu instead of learning the world as it is, they dream up an infinitely boring-er, stolid-er, like them-er one. [00:36]
asciilifeform naturally [00:36]
asciilifeform who wants to wake up to being garbage [00:36]
mircea_popescu i'd be curious to see what'd happen to one of these scumcanoes should they get somehow magically stuck into seeing themselves with the eyes of a sane person. [00:36]
mircea_popescu that'd make one great film. [00:36]
asciilifeform no doubt this film will be made. one day. [00:37]
mircea_popescu 3 hours of this, julia roberts going slowly insane while seeking the help of an entire array of "experts" to make reality CEASE!11 [00:37]
asciilifeform but will likely have the flavour of 'donald duck in nazi-land' [00:37]
mircea_popescu maybe she could blow her brains out at the premiere, right on the red carpet. [00:37]
asciilifeform failing this, theatre will have to pass out tabs of lsd with tickets [00:37]
BingoBoingo OH, /r/punchablefaces was turned over to SJW's and Libertards supporting Bernie Sanders revolted [00:37]
mircea_popescu or even make the tickets be the tabs [00:37]
asciilifeform ^^^ [00:37]
asciilifeform win [00:37]
asciilifeform it is difficult to make convincing films about insane folks [00:38]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lmao [00:38]
asciilifeform but technology can help!!11 [00:38]
mircea_popescu yeah, one of the best to date (good will hunting) was drastically unconvincing [00:38]
mircea_popescu points for "best effort", but still. [00:38]
asciilifeform it was a mega-letdown [00:38]
asciilifeform i expected things from that film. [00:39]
mircea_popescu never a good idea [00:39]
asciilifeform aha. [00:39]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Apparently much of reddit was upvoating multiple posts of the #Blacklivesmatter Hamplanet who got a bernie sanders speech canceled as an /r/punchableface this was followed by Reddit censorship in the name of Cliter. Now there's a fuckton of wholes becasue no one on reddit uses archive.is [00:39]
mircea_popescu lol [00:40]
mircea_popescu i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter. [00:40]
mircea_popescu fill me in ? [00:40]
mircea_popescu (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?) [00:40]
BingoBoingo And yet, Black owned businesses are still being looted in Fergeson by niggers to the point Black people hate niggers [00:40]
BingoBoingo (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?) << Yes [00:41]
mircea_popescu this was in dispute ? [00:41]
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mircea_popescu why do they say "black lives" when they mean "the lives of blacks" ? [00:41]
BingoBoingo i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter. << The democrat running against Cliter in the presidential primary who admits to being a socialist [00:41]
asciilifeform as with all usg slogans, it has a very reversed 'freedom is slavery' meaning in reality [00:41]
mircea_popescu aok [00:41]
BingoBoingo Because they lack "Pro Grammar" [00:41]
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mircea_popescu ahahaha [00:41]
asciilifeform flip the bits [00:41]
BingoBoingo https://archive.is/AjbcI [00:42]
assbot [BRDSCUSSION] Reddit is in the throes of a white supremacist meltdown regarding Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders : ShitRedditSays ... ( http://bit.ly/1huyVlB ) [00:42]
mircea_popescu who's the white supremacist ? the hamplanet or sanders ? [00:42]
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mircea_popescu "Multiple sisters in BRD such as /u/topyka2" [00:42]
mircea_popescu what's a sister in brd ? [00:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Both are Black supremacists. [00:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The complication and number of steps you have to understand are "essential propaganda noise" [00:43]
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mircea_popescu so wait. the black people that have no pro-grammar make the lives of blacks matter by opposing the campaign appearances of a white guy that runs against a white woman for the nomination to presidency of the democratic party ? [00:44]
BingoBoingo The hamplanet was black and Bernie Sanders is this cycle's prime food stamp candidate [00:44]
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BingoBoingo Yes [00:44]
mircea_popescu so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ? [00:44]
mircea_popescu and the only place where this matters is reddit, much in the way the only place you find bilge is down in the keel ? [00:45]
BingoBoingo "I'm not so prepared to dismiss this protest as "poorly researched" or "poorly executed." I feel like this protest follows a pattern that's so common in feminist and queer circles that we should recognize and expect it now: we critique each other to make our movement inclusive and intersectional, so that our spaces might reject all oppressive forms. When a queer bar isn't entirely inclusive to people that aren't cis-white-rich-gay [00:45]
BingoBoingo men, it's much easier to critique and change that bar into one that is inclusive than to petition the nearest straight bar. When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist, we call her out (yet we don't call out men or women who do not identify as feminist with nearly such vigor). Why? Because we hope that these people are much more inclined to listen and to uplift further marginalized people and movements. [00:45]
BingoBoingo When no candidate is in full support of your movement, it's going to be easiest to convince the one that is somewhat supportive to do a better job than to convince your greatest enemy to do a slightly less shitty job." [00:45]
mircea_popescu "We here at /r/ShitRedditSays are taking the firm policy" [00:45]
mircea_popescu who's "we here" ? [00:45]
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BingoBoingo so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ? << up, see above [00:45]
mircea_popescu "feminist and queer circles" ? [00:45]
mircea_popescu isn't this insulting to the actual shape involved ? [00:46]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The collective farm we. The gulag's vote as reported in Washington [00:46]
mircea_popescu which is more like a donut [00:46]
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BingoBoingo It's insulting to literacy in general [00:46]
mircea_popescu well that's a given [00:46]
BingoBoingo No language should have to suffer this attempt at persuasive prose. [00:46]
mircea_popescu anyway, the faux-soviet terminology is endearing. such wannabes. [00:47]
BingoBoingo C++ is embarrassed right now that an English speaker birthed it [00:47]
mircea_popescu "When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist" [00:47]
mircea_popescu who's taylor swift ? [00:47]
mircea_popescu i thought it was this season's britney spears [00:47]
pete_dushenski she is, but $200 mn 'dollars' worth [00:48]
mircea_popescu hardly. [00:48]
pete_dushenski i didn't make this up [00:48]
mircea_popescu so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ? [00:48]
BingoBoingo Taylor Swift could actually get the dick though. Britney Chain always had the crazy. [00:48]
funkenstein_ we need dave chapelle back to straighten all this out for us [00:48]
mircea_popescu is that the black pothead ? [00:49]
BingoBoingo so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ? << Swift like Beyonce used the word feminist thinking it would "expand their market" [00:49]
funkenstein_ not sure, depends on your context [00:49]
pete_dushenski "name da 5 best rappers of all time : dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan" [00:49]
mircea_popescu he;'s the dude with the nigger family sketch right ? [00:49]
funkenstein_ yeah :) [00:49]
funkenstein_ and the racial draft [00:49]
BingoBoingo Related https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/10/003907a204cfd290cdbc62ea1bf7bb8a.png [00:49]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzV8gj ) [00:49]
funkenstein_ and who was it Clayton Biggles? [00:50]
pete_dushenski and the black white supremacist. [00:50]
funkenstein_ ^ [00:50]
pete_dushenski bigsby iirc [00:50]
BingoBoingo and the black white supremacist. << Old meme. Been done since 1620 [00:50]
mircea_popescu "However, as this matter might not be fully understood, we would like to open a space for discussion in order to further understanding. The usual rules about circlequeefing and Rule X (to an extent) do not apply in this thread, however we expect discussion to be in good faith and a genuine attempt to understand the white supremacy behind the angry reactions to Black Lives Matter's quite frankly highly successful and ex [00:50]
mircea_popescu tremely necessary protesting. Note that this is not a debate. The angry backlash at Black Lives Matter is pure white supremacy and this is not up for compromise, however there are few sources for understanding why this fact is, and we would like to help our sisters in BRD understand them better." [00:50]
funkenstein_ i'm still a free agent [00:50]
mircea_popescu can i have this translated to english ? [00:50]
mircea_popescu and wtf are "the sisters in brd" already. [00:51]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It doesn't translate to anything [00:51]
asciilifeform what next translated to english? the schizo bum ranting on the corner also has material for translation ! [00:51]
asciilifeform and likely - more interesting [00:51]
mircea_popescu "Gynocratic Council [00:51]
mircea_popescu High Chancellor of Free Speech" [00:51]
mircea_popescu lmao. [00:51]
mircea_popescu i'm surprised "at large" isn't in there. [00:52]
mircea_popescu perhaps too uncomfortable. [00:52]
mircea_popescu "gynocratic councillor at large" sounds pretty apt for plenty of these tho [00:52]
BingoBoingo Dude had a campaign rally, dark Hamplanet hijacked the stage because can't afford cameras, supporters of candidate suddenly racist [00:52]
pete_dushenski 'and in charge' tailing that [00:52]
mircea_popescu Of the top 50 /r/punchablefaces, 42 of them are about the BLM protestors. The top 10 have a combined total of over 47k points, more than 3x the amount of points than what Obama's AMA got, or hell even twice the top post of all time from me_irl. [00:52]
mircea_popescu bwhgahaha [00:52]
mircea_popescu so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ? [00:53]
mircea_popescu where is it ? [00:53]
mircea_popescu who was derping on about how the circle-queef to use its self-given name was in charge of the us ? [00:53]
BingoBoingo so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ? << Actual libertards love Bernie Sanders because he confesses to being socialist. Lizard Libertards want Clitler so... Social media fight [00:54]
mircea_popescu o ic. [00:54]
mircea_popescu mkay. [00:54]
BingoBoingo Basically this is all an intra libertard fight [00:54]
mircea_popescu But here’s the thing – what’s powerful about these interruptions from Black women is less how it has changed the tone of the Democratic campaigns and more about what they have exposed in the White left. [00:56]
mircea_popescu I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues. [00:56]
mircea_popescu well doh. who the fuck cares. blacks are what 11% ? [00:56]
BingoBoingo But the Handlers never imagined that one sect would go so over the rails in the name of "intersectionality" that the Level 1 socialists could defeat the Lv 65 NPC pan-racial boss by swarming [00:56]
mircea_popescu not notable. and in any case already overrepresented and overcatered. [00:56]
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mircea_popescu not to mention the part where most black people actually would rather be NOT part of the little africa ghetto these fucktards are trying to build. [00:56]
BingoBoingo I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues. << This is the great problem of "the people" as a construct. [00:58]
mircea_popescu no but srsly, center black people ? what is this. [00:59]
mircea_popescu next we're going to center bitcoin around the power rangers or some equally deranged shit, [00:59]
mircea_popescu because a vague affiliation with a crumbly, 1/10 base can be parlayed into interest through speaking really loudly. [00:59]
BingoBoingo "the people" as retarded in development as it necessarily is always presents as a unified mass when it is really a bunch of things that don't agree on a single point. [00:59]
mircea_popescu herp. [00:59]
BingoBoingo People way off in insanity and people still level 1 insanity might percieve a bond until their insanities collide [01:01]
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mircea_popescu the only vaguely concerning point was that i thought hilary's presidency a foregone conclusion since about i dunno, 2008 or so. [01:02]
mircea_popescu but shit like this don't bode well. [01:02]
mircea_popescu senator hurrdurr (who really seems an exact mirror image of ron paul in left colorings) is certainly out of the question, but omfg don't tell me trump takes over and does a postmodern rendition of reagan [01:04]
pete_dushenski if anything can upset that woman's dreams, it's the donald [01:05]
BingoBoingo The race right now is fucked. The left press called Rubio the winner of the first GOP debate before any poll numbers and Rubio close to platonically stupid. [01:06]
pete_dushenski if u.s. politics is a tv game show, which it so often seems to be, how could trump (or someone equally outrageous) lose ? [01:06]
mircea_popescu jeez. [01:07]
mircea_popescu you know, romanian "press" and "social media" got very much similarly humiliated in 2008 when a romanian sort of donalt trump trampled all over their girlbits. [01:08]
mircea_popescu it was kinda the point it became obvious the alt-planet lost the battle, there. [01:08]
mircea_popescu and it was beautiful, five years of 10-20% shrinkage in "advertising spending" were followed by a 80% and two 50%s. [01:09]
mircea_popescu to the point 100s of romanian taylor swifts got recently arrested for prostitution (they were doing it for 1-200 euros, rate price) [01:09]
BingoBoingo Related https://anongalactic.com/cops-are-now-officially-the-fattest-employees-in-america-study-shows/ [01:09]
assbot COPS ARE NOW OFFICIALLY THE FATTEST EMPLOYEES IN AMERICA, STUDY SHOWS | AG News ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWnfC ) [01:09]
mircea_popescu (rate price means i wouldn't pay 50% of that in any case) [01:09]
mats http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/201508_sha3.cfm [01:10]
assbot NIST Releases SHA-3 Cryptographic Hash Standard ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWurk ) [01:10]
wilbns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfxr-Bzwn0 [01:11]
assbot Marco Rubio On Rap Music - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWuYq ) [01:11]
TomServo http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/on-the-detection-of-quantum-insert [01:11]
assbot on the detection of quantum insert ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzWvf6 ) [01:11]
pete_dushenski mats: who in their right fucking mind would trust the latest nist 'standard' [01:12]
mircea_popescu "It’s also possible I failed to attract the right visitors. This is only a one man show, and I can only churn out so much linkbait, even for the sake of science." [01:13]
mircea_popescu that. [01:13]
mats nobody asked you to trust nist [01:13]
pete_dushenski mats: eh i wasn't being personal, speaking generally here [01:13]
pete_dushenski !s nist [01:14]
assbot 38 results for 'nist' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nist [01:14]
mircea_popescu the one possibility of interest he neglects is "sane people use the browser as a strictly stateless device. to them it makes absolutely no difference." [01:14]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski mats is on a hunt for cultism in the cult, and you stepped on his detector. [01:14]
pete_dushenski *kaboom* [01:14]
mircea_popescu is it annoying btw mats ? [01:14]
mats sha3 was created in an open process like rijndael [01:15]
asciilifeform ahahahahahaha [01:15]
mircea_popescu can you define "open process" ? [01:15]
asciilifeform open, l0l, aha [01:15]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: me think cazalla is on a similar hunt ? [01:15]
mircea_popescu doubt it. [01:15]
asciilifeform it works like this: folks mail in suggestions (naturally only incestuous academitards from nato countries considered! no untermenschem plz!) [01:15]
pete_dushenski me grog. [01:15]
asciilifeform and nsa picks the ones it likes. [01:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform technically, it's open. [01:16]
asciilifeform *untermenschen [01:16]
asciilifeform open to aryans. [01:16]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: ya, i dun seriously think so either. [01:16]
mircea_popescu reddit notably also publishes through an open process. [01:16]
mircea_popescu also like rijndael [01:16]
mircea_popescu rijnddit. [01:16]
asciilifeform phun phakt: the 'dae' is a chick [01:17]
mats there are publications detailing the selection process, Chang et. al [01:17]
asciilifeform or hm, misremembere [01:17]
asciilifeform d [01:17]
asciilifeform that was another, forgotten algo [01:18]
asciilifeform mats: the selection-for-suitability-for-top-secret process is not public. [01:18]
asciilifeform i don't give a flying fuck about the window dressing one. [01:18]
asciilifeform the reason why all usg keys are generated at ft. meade and not in the field is also not public. [01:19]
asciilifeform unless this - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 - counts as 'public' [01:19]
assbot Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. ... ( http://bit.ly/1gZ2mwl ) [01:19]
mircea_popescu mats seriously, publications detailing the process ? [01:19]
mircea_popescu tell you what. unless i can personally break it, it does not meet my definition of "open". [01:20]
mircea_popescu that's what open is : something that continues only inasmuch i do not break it. [01:20]
mircea_popescu if it can protect itself, it's closed. [01:20]
asciilifeform ^ [01:20]
mircea_popescu so yes, my slavegirls are open processes. [01:20]
mats as you suggest, open-ness is subject to personal definitions [01:21]
mircea_popescu that'd be about it. claims to the contrary are an exercise in directed disingenuity. [01:21]
mircea_popescu and there's nothing wrong with it being a closed process, either. other than - don't expect folks whoi aren't politically alligned to give a slightest fuck. [01:21]
mircea_popescu not like the us police implements the rules dreamed up byu the supreme soviet of north korea [01:22]
mircea_popescu and this without any discussion of the merits. as great as they may be. and without even reading them. [01:22]
mircea_popescu because they make very strictly no difference whatsoever. [01:22]
asciilifeform it always boggled my mind how anyone could have ever seen 'fips' etc. as representing anything other than 'breakable by usg with reasonable cost' [01:24]
asciilifeform (more of an observation re: ciphers than hashes. until recently, usg did not give a rat's arse re: hashes) [01:25]
BingoBoingo Related: "I stopped going to school because people were kicking my ass" - Mike Tyson [01:25]
wilbns A different take on OBEY art and apparel: http://mileswmathis.com/obey.pdf [01:27]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzXjQV ) [01:27]
BingoBoingo If I recall SHA-3 draft FPGA outdates Bitcoin mining FPGA [01:27]
mats well, hand-waving aside, "SHA-3 has no known security issues, whereas SHA-1, MD5, and SHA-512 are susceptible to length-extension. SHA-1 and MD5 are vulnerable to collision attacks, which are expensive for SHA-1, but which are cheap and allow chosen-prefixes for MD5." [01:27]
asciilifeform md5 long buried, and cement poured over the grave [01:28]
mircea_popescu sha 512 length extension was demonstrated ? [01:28]
asciilifeform length extension is an operator error thing strictly. [01:29]
asciilifeform can be entirely ruled out in a correct design. [01:30]
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wilbns excerpt: "We are told that the OBEY sign, with or without the GIANT sign, is anti-authoritarian. But is the fact [01:31]
wilbns that a lot of young people are wearing shirts with the words OBEY on them—without knowing [01:31]
wilbns anything about the artistic, historical, or “anti-propaganda” significance of all this—really anti- [01:31]
wilbns authoritarian? Or is it just the excuse to get the word OBEY up everywhere?" [01:31]
mircea_popescu directed disingenuity. as per usual. [01:31]
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* BingoBoingo though anyways SHA-3 was proposed entirely on the pretense of "speed" [01:34]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: aha, like aes. [01:36]
asciilifeform it's always 'speed' with these folk [01:36]
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asciilifeform (except when not) [01:36]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That. Or like Elliptic curve in lieu of RSA [01:36]
BingoBoingo "less bits moar fast" [01:37]
mircea_popescu less bats moar fist. [01:37]
asciilifeform !b 2 [01:37]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/18YFRKH.txt ) [01:37]
BingoBoingo less bats moar fist. << But dat leverage the bat offers [01:37]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [01:45]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 265.71, vol: 10109.50102694 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 259.7, vol: 4667.24404 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 266.92, vol: 10902.84743969 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 274.99, vol: 24.41692709 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 262.945802, vol: 13619.38950000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 263.0, vol: 38.83709689 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 273.291947449, vol: 71.54484674 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [01:45]
BingoBoingo ;;more [01:45]
gribble 264.395376103 [01:45]
BingoBoingo dat dpear davout [01:45]
BingoBoingo *spread [01:45]
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ben_vulpes ;;later tell phf http://dpaste.com/2Q2YKDB [02:02]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:02]
assbot dpaste: 2Q2YKDB ... ( http://bit.ly/1Weoti3 ) [02:02]
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mats http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-moves-to-devalue-the-yuan-1439258401 [02:26]
assbot China Moves to Devalue Yuan - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1WeqPgZ ) [02:26]
trinque Varia_Varietat+| Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made. << wahahaha! [02:47]
trinque study your gentoo install in the meanwhile. [02:48]
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BingoBoingo trinque: He's on OpenBSD now and a six month hold order [02:57]
funkenstein_ "tightly controlled currency" in what sense do you think mats? [02:58]
BingoBoingo Most accurate movie review ever http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=mad_max_hell_yeah [02:58]
assbot Mad Max: The only review you need to read for the only movie you need to watch. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3kMZk ) [02:58]
pete_dushenski notbad. [03:01]
pete_dushenski "This part looks so awesome that Mad Max even pauses during the action just to watch people blow up. It's as if he knows he's acting in this awesome movie and he's getting paid to do his job, but even he can't help but sit back and think about how cool his life is going to be after this movie and how he's going to spend the rest of his life getting his knob polished by conjoined supermodel twins for being in thi [03:02]
pete_dushenski s awesome scene. " << par for the 2015 meta-movie course [03:02]
scoopbot_revived Bully for you. http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/11/bully-for-you/ [03:02]
pete_dushenski ^longer one for y'all [03:02]
trinque BingoBoingo: OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion [03:03]
pete_dushenski spoiler alert : i was bullied, but i was also a bully ! [03:03]
trinque great installer, for example [03:03]
BingoBoingo trinque: OpenBSD is the new Ubuntu 10.04 [03:03]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Movie is that good [03:04]
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mircea_popescu sooo, i got a rather amusing internal report from reddit. it would seem that [08:25]
mircea_popescu a) very few entries actually get > 100 upvotes. as in, it's happened twice so far this year. b) the number of negative votes exceeds the positive by a degree of magnitude or more on average, and regularly by two degrees on "popular" items. when this doesn't happen it's always obscure stories with one or two votes. [08:27]
shinohai O.o [08:28]
mircea_popescu c) to cope with this situations the admins universally make up random vote counts ; d) to cope with the shortage of manpower this causes all sorts of exponential factorizations are used, which means that in practice a story is first "fast tracked" which means some admin ticks a box and from there on it gets all sorts of factors and additions [08:28]
mircea_popescu e) the system is pretty byzantine so that admins regularly can not predict what the results of their choices will actually be [08:28]
mircea_popescu f) they tried all sorts of experimental "harness the negative votes" but nothing could be made to werk [08:31]
mircea_popescu and finally g) they've been bleeding people from engineering at an ever accelerating rate since 2010 (or earlier) and by now it's so bad people leave during the first three months as a regular occurence. they briefly and unsuccessfully tried the "pay more" approach, it didn't do much, currently they've practically given up on the problem altogether. [08:32]
mircea_popescu along with all sorts of personally damning tidbits and a treasure trove of all sorts of lols. [08:34]
mircea_popescu welll... no, not really "all sorts". "autistic usian" sorts. [08:34]
shinohai reddit is doomed to go the way of digg [08:36]
mircea_popescu amusingly enough, no, because apparently all sorts of people (who otherwise have no money and no influence, which is to say - their inept choices ands valuations have stranded them irl) think it's incredibly important and valuable! [08:37]
mircea_popescu these'd be all sorts of self-described activists, which in any other place'd be known as "political arivists" except this doesn't apply because they're actually too fat/lazy/lost in self to even have ambitions. [08:38]
shinohai Conde Nast I guess feels the need to dump resources into it. [08:38]
mircea_popescu i suspect it's alltogether more layered laziness, such as, "if i give up the delusion that my activity on the rickety house of cards we call reddit matters, i will have to find other work to do as part of my being politically important, which is hard and risks requiring me looking up from the tablet or going out of starbucks. so let's instead pretend." [08:39]
mircea_popescu in any case, reddit's gonna die its own, livejournal-y sort of death. digg iirc died when it crashed against a thick brick wall of "nobody cares". [08:40]
shinohai You recall correctly. [08:41]
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shinohai Anyone here used vee as a blogging platform ? [08:49]
mircea_popescu nop [08:50]
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shinohai Comes pre-installed on my NetBSD shell. May give it a whirl sometimes. [08:50]
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mircea_popescu mats the true question is whether this is a test run and they hit it again more to the tune of 30-40% later in the year. [08:58]
mircea_popescu it's one way to fix their major capital allocation issues / bad provincial govt "investment" / valuable real estate on paper etc. [08:59]
mircea_popescu the most relevant part of all this to bitcoin being that price stickiness (principally, the stubborn refusal of old people to admit that real estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it) may very well require inflation as the best social solution. [09:00]
mircea_popescu by a damned sight better than say, beatings. and it's altogether unclear an alternative to these exists. [09:00]
mircea_popescu balzac's french contemporaries (who were on the napoleon gold standard) pretty much used the beatings, which did make for great literature but really a rather miserable society. [09:01]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234457 << greatly helped by the fact that said central bank is both the world's largest holder of domestic currency as well as the various foreign currency. it has more dollars than the fed, for instance. [09:03]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 06:06:57; mats: funkenstein_: how else? central bank carefully and regularly buys and sells it in domestic forex market [09:03]
mircea_popescu due to that position, the yuan's simply worth whatever the fuck they say it's worth. [09:03]
mircea_popescu "In the future, everyone has a war machine, nobody wears seatbelts and everyone tries to be as flammable as possible. Damn right." [09:05]
mircea_popescu is this guy from utah or something ? [09:05]
mircea_popescu and re charlize theron : i get it, chicks not really able to act, but is very pretty, so she's going to do either porn or action movies (which really aren't in any sense distinct). makes sense. what doesn't make sense is this bodily self-loathing hot women in hollywood seem to have gotten into the past few years. [09:07]
mircea_popescu angelina jolie is following the psychotic body mod trends of every zsa zsa gabor since the 50s, except she's not lifting her skin to the point her bellybutton adorns her chin, instead she's taking out her ovaries, the fat in her tits and i suppose putting in an armenian unibrow next, because hey. [09:08]
mircea_popescu feminity is bad mkay! [09:08]
mircea_popescu the unholy alliance of the pretty airhead and the horde of self-loathing hamplanets where the latter convince the former that they should grind their face on sandpaper and cut off her nipples because the ugliest she gets, the "better" [09:09]
mircea_popescu craaaazy. [09:10]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234466 << at no point did afrifail central bank EVER buy its own worthless paper. [09:15]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 06:10:44; funkenstein_: mats, ok.. but isn't that what zimbabwe central bank did too? [09:15]
* shinohai tosses his pogoplug in the garbage disposal, gives up on stupid arm processors and cross-compiling. [09:15]
mircea_popescu ;/ [09:15]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234471 << i have nfi what the guy is on about, sort-of like "oh, so nasa launched a satellite ? isn't that what the nazis did too ???" no, it isn't, and wtf. [09:17]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 06:14:27; mats: funkenstein_: I don't know specifics of ZWD collapse, but let's say yes, so what? [09:17]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234470 << in its own mind the us is always going to be firstest bestest. it ends as the twerps in question die out, britannia also thought itself first bestsest 4evar!! all through the 30s, and the 40s, and the 50s (remember the humiliation they and the french got in egypt, bested by sadat ?) and so on. it died meanwhile through the biological process of, "the old people [09:20]
mircea_popescu stubbornly refusing to admit that ideological estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it eventually die" [09:20]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 06:14:18; pete_dushenski: china's been the biggest for what, 5 years ? [09:20]
mircea_popescu come to think about it, all the things "we" dislike about postmodernism, specifically the deluge of cultural artefacts (ideas, as opposed to [civilisational] artefacts, ie items) may well be the unavoidably necessary equivalent to inflation, to wash away the idiocy of these guys without having to beat them up/ [09:21]
shinohai Shitty old AMD laptop: 1, Shiny pogo: 0 [09:22]
mircea_popescu otherwise you'll get "brownstone is the best stone" and "american ideas must prevail everywhere" endlessly. [09:22]
mircea_popescu shinohai maybe i don't understand crosscompilation, but a) shouldn't it work on pogo if you ever got it to compile/link anywhere ? and b) wasn't the idea to avoid compiling for the pogo ON THE POGO anyway ? [09:23]
shinohai I tried with the pogotron instructions, have read hours upon hours about buildroot, tried writing my own build scripts, etc. Nothing. [09:24]
shinohai Compiling ON the pogo is pointless. [09:25]
mircea_popescu le suck. [09:25]
shinohai I have yet to find anyone willing to let me peek at their buildlog that *has* sucessfully done this. [09:26]
shinohai So x86_64 for me. [09:26]
shinohai Which btw I am at height 109638 on the one we built this weekend past. Runs good. [09:27]
shinohai *209638 [09:28]
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mircea_popescu uh. [09:38]
mircea_popescu shinohai what build is this, rotor ? [09:38]
shinohai yup [09:39]
shinohai prefixing LC_ALL=C is a bit annoying, but not a dealbreaker [09:39]
mircea_popescu would someone who managed this please post logs ? [09:39]
mircea_popescu iirc in the end hanbot did at the very least. [09:40]
mircea_popescu shinohai what's needed, the buildlog ? [09:40]
shinohai hanbot compiled pogo ? O.o [09:40]
shinohai Yes a buildlog, any relevant notes someone can include. [09:41]
mircea_popescu iirc she did manage rotor yest ? [09:41]
mircea_popescu i think all this is coming. like, this week. [09:41]
shinohai I'm not below doing my own research but this one has me totally stumped. [09:41]
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shinohai http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3193440/Heavily-armed-Oath-Keepers-inject-new-unease-riot-hit-Ferguson.html [10:00]
assbot Armed patriot Oath Keepers patrol streets of Ferguson with assault rifles | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1DK83rO ) [10:00]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234638 << and not posted on trilema because ... [10:04]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 11:34:10; mircea_popescu: along with all sorts of personally damning tidbits and a treasure trove of all sorts of lols. [10:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not THAT reliable. [10:06]
mircea_popescu moreover, trilema is not a news rag, it's a personal blog. [10:06]
asciilifeform well then dpaste. [10:06]
asciilifeform or wherever unreliable things go. [10:07]
asciilifeform watching the rats scramble in their denials would be lulzy. [10:07]
mircea_popescu yeah, but also... notrly the best approach [10:08]
mircea_popescu if wikileaks has taught us anything. [10:08]
asciilifeform keeping the death ray rusting in its holster is also not the best approach, as demonstrated by the nonwiki-leaks [10:10]
mircea_popescu this ain't no kind of deathray. the (incidentally : verifiable) maybe-deathray-esque parts are above in any case. [10:10]
asciilifeform was gonna say [10:11]
asciilifeform if they use deterministic diddles, hypothesis is testable. [10:11]
asciilifeform but needs max detail. [10:11]
mircea_popescu apparently there's about a dozen or two diddle "profiles" [10:11]
asciilifeform even so. [10:11]
mircea_popescu and apparently they all are linear functions, ie a+bx [10:11]
asciilifeform like the nsa/echelon thing, this is something that just about everyone 'will have always known' after it blows [10:12]
mircea_popescu all one needs to do is keep screenshots over fixed time intervals. eventually the data should be indicative. [10:12]
mircea_popescu where eventually = maybe months ? [10:12]
asciilifeform aha. [10:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform doh. [10:12]
asciilifeform just lolling in advance over it [10:13]
asciilifeform anyway imho the full text oughta be posted. but it's mircea_popescu's death ray, not mine. [10:14]
asciilifeform perhaps he wants to let enemy draw in before firing. [10:14]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234652 << how the hell does inflation dekulakize old farts with real estate? if anything, does the exact opposite. [10:16]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 12:00:46; mircea_popescu: the most relevant part of all this to bitcoin being that price stickiness (principally, the stubborn refusal of old people to admit that real estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it) may very well require inflation as the best social solution. [10:16]
asciilifeform 500k cardboard hovels in us suburbia are creations of inflation [10:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how do you reason ? [10:16]
mircea_popescu hehe. but they should have been 2x that, without it. [10:16]
asciilifeform will be 2x next year [10:16]
mircea_popescu yes, real estate allows them to "profit" from inflation, in the sense of being taxed at 30% instead of 65% [10:17]
mircea_popescu this is not unlike the idiot jews in ghetto taking jobs for germans. [10:17]
asciilifeform without it they'd cost what they cost in 1971 or whenever built [10:17]
mircea_popescu mno. [10:17]
mircea_popescu not at all. [10:17]
asciilifeform why not [10:17]
mircea_popescu this is beyond naive. [10:17]
mircea_popescu because the context has changed. in 1971 a lot of schmucks knew their place. [10:17]
mircea_popescu that do not know it today. [10:17]
mircea_popescu chiefly through the process of, the world of 1971 not being worth two shits in the terms of today. [10:18]
asciilifeform thought it was the reverse ? [10:19]
asciilifeform (how many current 'engineers' could pass 1971 exam? etc) [10:19]
mircea_popescu that's the conundrum. [10:19]
mircea_popescu see, admire the beauty of it. how much would an ipad be worth in 1971 ? [10:19]
mircea_popescu much enough that it was put in fucking star trek, right ? [10:19]
asciilifeform actually the folks of '71 would cry if shown one [10:20]
mircea_popescu the entire "apple stock could buy russia" is nothing more and nothing else than, "you could probably buy all of 1971" [10:20]
asciilifeform 'this ought to have been in '78' [10:20]
mircea_popescu lol [10:20]
asciilifeform alan kay described a device vastly superior, 'dynabook', that he proposed could be built in only a few years from the time of writing [10:20]
asciilifeform he assumed that men would remain equally capable while si fab advances [10:21]
mircea_popescu im sure some uppity redskin proposed the steam engine, too. [10:21]
mircea_popescu you know ? [10:21]
asciilifeform let's put it this way [10:22]
asciilifeform at one point i bought an 'hp 200lx', 'palmtop'. vastly superior to ~anything~ in that device class made since [10:22]
asciilifeform 1994. [10:22]
asciilifeform find me something else with a keyboard that will run on two 'aa' battery for a MONTH [10:22]
asciilifeform MOTHERFUCKERS [10:23]
asciilifeform no such thing [10:23]
mircea_popescu aha. [10:24]
mircea_popescu and yet... [10:24]
asciilifeform so no, i highly doubt that you would properly astonish an educated man of 1971 with ~anything~ seen today [10:24]
asciilifeform other than the decay and degeneracy [10:24]
mircea_popescu what educated ? i'm not selling to the educated. [10:24]
asciilifeform if selling to muppets, can find plenty today [10:25]
mircea_popescu you understand ? the society of 1971 is just as broken as this one, but not actually raped yet. [10:25]
mircea_popescu huge profits could be driven by raping it from the future. [10:25]
asciilifeform this is the plot for 1,001 cheap 'alt history' yarns, aha. [10:25]
mircea_popescu which is the point. the "1971 educated man" does not yet know he's an imbecile. [10:25]
mircea_popescu au contraire, he expects himself quite smart. [10:25]
asciilifeform except that they usually feature 1871 [10:25]
mircea_popescu yet the continuation of his imbecility is exactly 2015. [10:25]
asciilifeform or 1671, more commonly. [10:25]
mircea_popescu it's not like the aliens came in and made the country stupid. [10:26]
mircea_popescu this was a convenient excuse in romania, "things went to shit because teh russians are making us do it !111" [10:26]
mircea_popescu rrrrrheally nao. [10:26]
mircea_popescu who invaded the us ? [10:26]
asciilifeform massachusetts! [10:27]
asciilifeform who else. [10:27]
mircea_popescu so - without inflation they'd still be around, derping on, as if their ideas and values are valuable and useful. [10:27]
mircea_popescu looky where they lead. [10:27]
asciilifeform would they? [10:27]
asciilifeform or would they get 'goxed' [10:27]
mircea_popescu but that's the goxing - inflation. [10:27]
asciilifeform there is more than one way for idiots to lose everything [10:27]
mircea_popescu or rather, the hounds driving them into goxing [10:27]
asciilifeform spain lost its gold. [10:27]
mircea_popescu through real estate or w/e [10:27]
asciilifeform and not because anyone made more gold. [10:27]
mircea_popescu but because the anglos made ipads. [10:28]
mircea_popescu which were utter pieces of shit, btw, and what you said above could have been said by italian "educated man" of the time, [10:28]
mircea_popescu about the time's trinkets. [10:28]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234654 << what the hell is wrong with beatings? [10:28]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 12:01:47; mircea_popescu: balzac's french contemporaries (who were on the napoleon gold standard) pretty much used the beatings, which did make for great literature but really a rather miserable society. [10:28]
mircea_popescu heck, the same thing was said by educated men of the opium [10:28]
mircea_popescu so ? [10:28]
asciilifeform beat, beat [10:28]
mircea_popescu i say it today, and the conclave of derps is like "hey, mp is just silly, drugs are great mkay" [10:28]
mircea_popescu fine, fine, haveityourway. [10:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform beating old people is a bad idea. [10:29]
asciilifeform why? [10:29]
mircea_popescu in young people and especially young women it is how the fucxk do you say this in english [10:30]
mircea_popescu timeout while i research my words lol. [10:30]
* asciilifeform admits he rather ~likes~ old people, even most of'em to whom he isn't related by blood, for much the same reason he likes museums [10:31]
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* asciilifeform still often finds himself walking past these folks, with their enormous houses owned free and clear merely for having been alive 40 years earlier, and thinks 'hm, kulaks' [10:32]
mircea_popescu страдание поучительно [10:32]
mircea_popescu there we go. [10:33]
asciilifeform we did this iirc [10:33]
mircea_popescu there's great benefit from toil in youth. [10:33]
mircea_popescu yeah meanwhile i remember. [10:33]
mircea_popescu that benefit doth not exist in old people. [10:33]
mircea_popescu they just get sad, and the whole world grows dimmer. [10:33]
asciilifeform didn't say they ought to be beaten educationally [10:33]
asciilifeform just eaten. [10:33]
mircea_popescu meh. [10:33]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234667 << patience [10:35]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 12:15:34; *: shinohai tosses his pogoplug in the garbage disposal, gives up on stupid arm processors and cross-compiling. [10:35]
shinohai Later on down I did get it back out. [10:35]
asciilifeform shinohai: see, i'd post a full recipe and signed binaries today, but we don't quite yet have a pogo-capable - that is, non-ramguzzling - bitcoind [10:35]
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asciilifeform needs two things, 1) hard mempool limiter 2) block index cache moved to disk [10:36]
asciilifeform (both discussed in the logs on several occasions) [10:36]
asciilifeform the ~existing~ therealbitcoin can run on pogo, yes, if you enable swapping. but just barely. and imho we don't need a thousand more 'just barely' nodes. [10:37]
shinohai I did swap when I tried it w/ the precompiled binary. [10:38]
shinohai precompiled binaries are boring tho. I don't learn anything. [10:38]
asciilifeform shinohai: i think the last one built for pogo ~actually leaks~. [10:38]
asciilifeform don't use it [10:38]
shinohai It does [10:38]
shinohai which is why I am using my spare lappy now [10:38]
asciilifeform shinohai: you somehow botched the buildroot. i do not yet know how. when i post mine you can compare [10:39]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234663 << ancient idea, at least as old as the legendary amazons [10:39]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 12:10:01; mircea_popescu: the unholy alliance of the pretty airhead and the horde of self-loathing hamplanets where the latter convince the former that they should grind their face on sandpaper and cut off her nipples because the ugliest she gets, the "better" [10:39]
asciilifeform 'get manly by getting ugly' [10:40]
mircea_popescu sure, but detrimental. [10:40]
asciilifeform no shit. [10:40]
* mircea_popescu muchly prefers his manly women be manly intellectually. [10:40]
asciilifeform ^^^ [10:40]
mircea_popescu admittedly harder to do. actually works tho. [10:40]
mircea_popescu an ugly shitsack's not more manly than the dumpster. [10:41]
asciilifeform but seen side by side, illustrates why some go for mutilation [10:42]
asciilifeform when 'manly via intellect' is not on the menu! [10:42]
mircea_popescu (which reminds me : i once dropped the "how tall are you ? really ?! my god, i didn't know they stacked shit that high" on model chick. great lols were had.) [10:42]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234671 << latest generation will 'us is greatest' on account of 'greatest communism' - word is that clitler is running on platform of 'phreeee uni tuition for all plankton' [10:44]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 12:20:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234470 << in its own mind the us is always going to be firstest bestest. it ends as the twerps in question die out, britannia also thought itself first bestsest 4evar!! all through the 30s, and the 40s, and the 50s (remember the humiliation they and the french got in egypt, bested by sadat ?) and so on. it died meanwhile through the biol [10:44]
mircea_popescu there is no way to avoid that. if I ran my platform would also include free university for everyone. [10:44]
mircea_popescu the us has painted itself in a corner and there's simply no way out no matter how you approach the matter. [10:44]
mircea_popescu "The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit civil rights organization, has described the 'Oath Keepers' as a 'fiercely anti-government, militaristic group,' and St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar condemned their appearance in Ferguson." [10:45]
mircea_popescu so what about this is a bad thing then ? [10:45]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the original story with these is that they were simply a group of officers who... took an oath [10:45]
shinohai Pisses off the black activists something awful. [10:45]
mircea_popescu that'd be their problem eh ? [10:45]
asciilifeform it being, that they will not fire on u.s. folk, no matter who orders it [10:46]
mircea_popescu but obviously it would. their entire shtick relies on the same "but seen side by side, illustrates why some go for mutilation". [10:46]
mircea_popescu for the entire nonsense to work, ordinary people must perforce perceive there is "nothing else on the meny" [10:46]
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mircea_popescu otherwise, in an open market, the "activist" is middling to low tier camwhore. [10:46]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform problem being that who are they going to fire on then [10:47]
Apocalyptic http://thenextweb.com/opinion/2015/08/11/oracle-drinking-the-kool-aid/ << mega-lol [10:47]
assbot Oracle's CSO thinks the company doesn't need security help ... ( http://bit.ly/1DFZRZO ) [10:47]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they haven't run out of untermenschen to 'conquer' at this point quite yet [10:47]
shinohai https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3ghlh4/i_switched_to_bitcoinxt_to_protest_today_incident/ctyft4v [10:47]
assbot creditmoney comments on "I switched to bitcoinxt to protest today incident" … "Do it because it's good for Bitcoin" ... ( http://bit.ly/1DFZX3I ) [10:47]
shinohai ^ best comment of all [10:48]
mircea_popescu they have run out of softer targets. there's no "untermenschen" they COULD conquer [10:48]
asciilifeform there are the obvious ones [10:48]
asciilifeform their own command. [10:48]
mircea_popescu even if the untermenschen were all on vacation leaving the unterwomenschen behind and the doors open [10:48]
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mircea_popescu "I'll ask your opinion on it again next time you have a transaction you need to process in a hurry and the mempool is 5 MB." [10:49]
mircea_popescu uhh.,... what, "and i'll spend a quarter and not have a problem" ? [10:49]
asciilifeform nah that'd be racist or something [10:49]
asciilifeform what of all the poor starving hurrying people who don't have quarterz [10:50]
asciilifeform etc [10:50]
mircea_popescu ... [10:50]
mircea_popescu and then you want clinton to do anything but make it free ? [10:50]
mircea_popescu "what do you mean pay" [10:50]
mircea_popescu "I disagree that I should have to pay in bitcoin or cpu time to get what I want." [10:51]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see, i've always been sympathetic to 'sure let's warehouse people while energy is cheap and we don't need to plow by hand' - because i always fukcinghated work. [10:52]
funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234588 <-- just like reddit / imperial elections / box office stats / etc, no means of verification of vote or claimed rating is available to the user. Draw your own conclusions. [10:52]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 09:09:36; shinohai: http://www.bitvoat.com/ [10:52]
asciilifeform but it isn't like i can personally do my thing in the warehouse [10:52]
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mircea_popescu not sure where this is coming/going ? [10:52]
asciilifeform clitler's 'phree' [10:53]
shinohai I drew my conclusion funkenstein_ it promotes dogecoin so scummy [10:53]
asciilifeform i object to it on account of being among the designated chumps who will have to starve to pay for the 'phree' [10:53]
mircea_popescu i suppose the sticking point is that you for some reason project unrelated matter on it. [10:53]
mircea_popescu they will call it "university" [10:53]
mircea_popescu but in point of fact no higher learning has happened in the us in two decades at least. [10:54]
mircea_popescu so... no. it's adult daycare. [10:54]
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mircea_popescu and yes you'll have to pay for adult healthcare. doh. [10:54]
mircea_popescu this comes with the territory, living in the united states of kindergarten. [10:54]
asciilifeform well not exactly. the folks on the other side of the fence get to eat phree, rather than pay. [10:55]
asciilifeform they also live here. [10:55]
asciilifeform meanwhile... [10:57]
asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/553307AFE540EF3E57BB4D3558C9C7FA88F2C4B81CBCB9F5ADEF116B4055E582 [10:57]
mircea_popescu lol, this is so funny. looky : [10:57]
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asciilifeform gcd==357; __test__ <__test__@ribble.cn> [10:57]
asciilifeform ^ wtf [10:57]
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mircea_popescu they're the negro slaves of the new, certifiedly non-racist regime. they, just like the previous negro slaves, eat "for free". in exchange, they may not own property, have no disposition of their bodies, and have to do "work" [10:57]
mircea_popescu the work they currently do is about as economically useful as handpickingf cotton, for the record. [10:57]
mircea_popescu happy now ? you live in the best world possible. [10:58]
asciilifeform thing is, i already... own no property; have no disposition of body; and do 'work' [10:58]
mircea_popescu so ? [10:58]
asciilifeform where's the 'eat for phree' [10:58]
mircea_popescu you know, the little discussed secrtet, is that at the time "blacks were enslaved", poor, independent minded whites lived in just about the same conditions throughout the slaveowning states. [10:59]
asciilifeform discussed extensively [10:59]
asciilifeform and not 'same conditions' - minus the expectations and beatings, no ? [10:59]
asciilifeform materially - same,yes [11:00]
mircea_popescu materially same, yes. [11:00]
mircea_popescu it's what you were saying innit. [11:00]
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shinohai Did not the Ottomans enslave whites as well? [11:04]
mircea_popescu the arabs and the turks preferred black men for labour and white women for ... belabour. [11:05]
mircea_popescu which is why "arap" in romanian means black, in the sense of negro slave. because the turks called them "arabs" [11:06]
mircea_popescu this, incidentally, has survived, a proper thing to wish for the bride at wedding throughout musliv world is "may your kids be light skinned" [11:07]
shinohai I can see why if all they got were the same whiny white Xstians we have here in the US today. [11:07]
mircea_popescu well... white people can't jump or something. [11:09]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234912 << this was the ru parlance as late as the time of peter I. [11:14]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 14:06:11; mircea_popescu: which is why "arap" in romanian means black, in the sense of negro slave. because the turks called them "arabs" [11:14]
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mircea_popescu aha [11:15]
asciilifeform e.g., this fella: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BB,_%D0%90%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 [11:15]
assbot Ганнибал, Абрам Петрович — Википедия ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHwMd4 ) [11:15]
mircea_popescu ;;google Harap Alb [11:15]
gribble Harap Alb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The White Moor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; De-as fi Harap Alb (1965) The White Moor [English subtitles ...: [11:15]
mircea_popescu ^ super-famous literary work, title works on the contradiction of "White Negro Slave" [11:15]
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mircea_popescu and moor is nonsense. it literally means "the white nigger" [11:16]
mircea_popescu recorded in 1877. part of early school curricula all through early 90s [11:16]
asciilifeform from the l0ltrons: http://web.tampabay.com/news/business/tampa-man-accused-of-illegal-bitcoin-exchange-getting-attention-in-new-york/2240829 [11:17]
assbot Tampa man accused of illegal Bitcoin exchange getting attention in New York | Tampa Bay Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHx7MY ) [11:17]
mircea_popescu in any case. the "slave" sense is more marked than the "black" sense in there. [11:17]
funkenstein_ mircea_popescu, do you know why white people can't jump? [11:17]
shinohai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o <<< My entire knowledge of Russian history in one song [11:17]
assbot Rasputin vs Stalin. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 2 finale. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHxcQJ ) [11:17]
funkenstein_ becaues too busy telling racist jokes [11:18]
mircea_popescu i dunno, bird jumped alright back in the day [11:18]
mircea_popescu lol i thought this was a black culture theme ? [11:18]
funkenstein_ :) [11:18]
funkenstein_ I just read great book "of water and the spirit". Dagara youth taken by French missionaries, when he returns he is "too white" to be part of his villiage, forgot his language, etc. [11:20]
mircea_popescu funkenstein_ i'm very vaguely following the black culture stuff, mostly on the grounds that i don't believe it is sterile / doesn't carry much import. so i have nfi. but srsly, you saying the theme is really projected rather than locally brewed ? [11:20]
mircea_popescu i do believe it's sterile* [11:20]
funkenstein_ i just can't really follow because it seems the terms are not clear. [11:23]
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mircea_popescu the expression "white men can't jump", as an artefact, which it is. comes, as far as i know, from actual black people, as a local creation. like the word "trayvon". not from white people, as a projection. [11:24]
mircea_popescu like the word "negro" [11:25]
kakobrekla nah, they are just being racists. [11:25]
mircea_popescu bloody hell now i'm going to have to look into this. [11:26]
funkenstein_ probably not worth your time. [11:27]
mircea_popescu what ever is. [11:28]
shinohai https://rya.nc/cracking_cryptocurrency_brainwallets.pdf [11:28]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IxUvMI ) [11:28]
funkenstein_ lol :) I absolutely recommend the book though, Malidoma Patrice Somé is the author [11:29]
shinohai top keks: https://zippy.gfycat.com/VillainousVengefulGrassspider.webm [11:36]
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ascii_field https://cryptome.org/2015/08/nsa-sigint-philo-intercept-15-0810.pdf ( http://dpaste.com/127S00C ) << lulzy [13:25]
assbot dpaste: 127S00C ... ( http://bit.ly/1P47c5Z ) [13:26]
ascii_field ^ 'SIGINT Philosopher' [13:26]
ascii_field ^ the paste is incomplete [13:27]
ascii_field some of the text did not ocr [13:27]
mircea_popescu jump to line 428 lol [13:28]
mod6 hey, if i build rotor-TEST2 on say gentoo, and someone else builds the same whole thing on debian, we get the same number of output bytes in the bin, but the checksums are different, seem to be some offset differences. [13:28]
mod6 is this expected? [13:28]
ascii_field mod6: vbindiff [13:28]
ascii_field and see why [13:28]
ascii_field (embedded path turds) [13:28]
ascii_field these need to die, yes [13:29]
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mod6 neat tool. [13:32]
mod6 seems to be some opcode diffs, i.e. deb 0x25 always is changed out for gentoo 0x12 ... [13:34]
mod6 things like that [13:35]
ascii_field objdump -d [13:35]
ascii_field and diff [13:35]
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ascii_field and srsly do i have to do everything myself [13:35]
mircea_popescu eh cmon. [13:36]
ascii_field 'If we determine as part of our analysis that scan results could only have come from reverse engineering (in at least one case, because the report said, cleverly enough, “static analysis of Oracle XXXXXX”), we send a letter to the sinning customer, and a different letter to the sinning consultant-acting-on-customer’s behalf – reminding them of the terms of the Oracle license agreement that preclude [13:36]
ascii_field reverse engineering, So Please Stop It Already.' << glorious [13:36]
Apocalyptic I knew you'd like it :) [13:37]
ascii_field to borrow mircea_popescu's observation from last year, these folks are just ~begging~ to be boiled in oil [13:37]
mircea_popescu this is the protocols of the elders of nsa. [13:38]
ascii_field tr0lfake ? [13:38]
mircea_popescu myeah. [13:38]
mod6 <+ascii_field> and srsly do i have to do everything myself << i might not be viewing the differences correctly .. so what I said above might not be correct. [13:38]
ascii_field mod6: nah prolly correct [13:39]
ascii_field disasm and diff, betcha it'll make a good blog post [13:39]
ascii_field why is mircea_popescu convinced that the oracle thing is a sham ? [13:39]
mircea_popescu btw, it might please you to find that in the woirld simulation that is eulora, licensing agreements appeared within the first month. [13:40]
mircea_popescu the economy wiggled out of command state by the 9th [13:40]
mircea_popescu ascii_field i was speaking re previous dpaste. [13:41]
ascii_field ah [13:41]
ascii_field as i understand, it is a snowden turd [13:41]
ascii_field which is to say, from the bottom of the pile, were it sorted [13:41]
ascii_field like ~all of them~ [13:41]
ascii_field the ant catalogue ('godsurge' etc) ~wasn't~ from snowden [13:41]
* mircea_popescu hasn't seen it, is unsure of origin. [13:42]
ascii_field the rest of the idiocy - typical, like the sample [13:42]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216011 [13:43]
assbot Logged on 29-07-2015 03:51:50; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: circumstantial; based on out-of-phase release time, and the content (uncensored) and formatting (full text memos, with technical detail, rather than idiot powerpoint) [13:43]
mod6 ok, yeah offsets, not opcodes: [13:44]
mod6 - 40259e: 48 81 ff 50 25 ac 00 cmp $0xac2550,%rdi [13:44]
mod6 + 40259e: 48 81 ff 50 12 ac 00 cmp $0xac1250,%rdi [13:44]
mod6 that kinda 25 <=> 12 happens a bunch [13:44]
ascii_field 'Q. Why are you going after consultants the customer hired? The consultant didn’t sign the license agreement! A. The customer signed the Oracle license agreement, and the consultant hired by the customer is thus bound by the customer’s signed license agreement. Otherwise everyone would hire a consultant to say (legal terms follow) “Nanny, nanny boo boo, big bad consultant can do X even if the customer can’t!”' [13:45]
ascii_field ^ gold [13:45]
mircea_popescu "More like, "I do not need you to analyze the code since we already do that, it's our job to do that, we are pretty good at it, we can -- unlike a third party or a tool -- actually analyze the code to determine what's happening and at any rate most of these tools have a close to 100 percent false positive rate so please do not waste our time on reporting little green men in our code. I am not running away from our resp [13:45]
mircea_popescu onsibilities to customers, merely trying to avoid a painful, annoying, and mutually-time wasting exercise," the CSO writes. [13:45]
ascii_field https://web.archive.org/web/20150811090106/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t [13:45]
mircea_popescu there you go, that's your "professionals". [13:45]
assbot No, You Really Can’t (Mary Ann Davidson Blog) ... ( http://bit.ly/1P4bhHl ) [13:45]
mircea_popescu still with that boat ? [13:45]
ascii_field these are turds with two legs [13:45]
ascii_field aka 'american business experts' [13:45]
mircea_popescu heh. says who ? [13:45]
mircea_popescu but lulzy at the legal nonsense they're sprouting. my consultant can do whatever the fuck he pleases. [13:46]
ascii_field says my lying nose [13:46]
mod6 i'll post the diff so you can take a peek when you have a chance ascii_field [13:46]
mircea_popescu you can claim im still responsible for it. [13:46]
mircea_popescu but he - isn't. [13:46]
ascii_field mod6: neat [13:46]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: these folks are at the stage where they openly expect to be able to use law as lettre de cachet [13:47]
ascii_field not caring really about technicalities [13:47]
mircea_popescu i'm at the same phase. [13:48]
ascii_field when you break something, it is broken for everyone [13:48]
ascii_field sorta how it works [13:48]
mircea_popescu heh i guess so. [13:48]
ascii_field btw in case this wasn't obvious, the original article is memoryholed into oblivion [13:49]
ascii_field nobody disclaimed the idiocies, but oracle would like to pretend that no one said them in a single convenient place. [13:50]
mircea_popescu well you wouldn't expect them to keep the record. [13:50]
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mircea_popescu incidentally - the attitude towards stuff like this is becoming the premiere marker of dishonest folk. [13:50]
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-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [13:51]
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mircea_popescu does it have an "acceptable use policy" ? it's a bunch of scumbags. [13:51]
mircea_popescu do they delete so and so ? fuck em. [13:51]
ascii_field see the 'nationalist' thread [13:51]
ascii_field they thought they finally got their wet dream [13:52]
ascii_field editable history [13:52]
mircea_popescu yeah. it's the clear mark of the "nationalist", aka socialist, libertard - generally speaking idiot. [13:52]
ascii_field in the age of newsprint, this was messy, unreliable [13:52]
mircea_popescu he whose personality is entirely fictitious has trouble groking the permanence of reality. [13:52]
mod6 ascii_field: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rotor-bitcoind-TEST2-debian8-vs-gentoo-objdumps-20150811.txt [13:53]
mircea_popescu "we could call it something else" "so you could" "that'd matter right ?" "no." [13:53]
ascii_field mod6: i can tell immediately that most of it is displacement [13:54]
mircea_popescu - 400163: e8 ed eb 39 00 callq 0x79ed55 + 400163: e8 ef eb 39 00 callq 0x79ed57 [13:54]
mircea_popescu they all seem one byte offset sort of things like this. [13:54]
ascii_field e.g., cmp 0x407451(%rip),%rdi vs cmp 0x4074d1(%rip),%rdi [13:54]
ascii_field aha [13:54]
mircea_popescu is this a int encoding problem or something ? [13:54]
ascii_field mircea_popescu also has good eyes [13:54]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: no, it is what i said before [13:54]
ascii_field string in there somewhere [13:54]
ascii_field with a local path [13:54]
mircea_popescu oh [13:54]
mircea_popescu right. makes sense [13:54]
ascii_field because gcc is dripping with idiocy [13:54]
ascii_field it wants to be ms vs now [13:54]
ascii_field and embeds 'identifiables' [13:54]
mircea_popescu heh [13:55]
mircea_popescu what do we do! [13:55]
ascii_field a) scrub with a broom [13:56]
ascii_field b) wait for me to write auto-scrubber [13:56]
ascii_field ^ not priority [13:56]
mircea_popescu but it won't run will it ? [13:56]
ascii_field it runs [13:56]
ascii_field why the hell wouldn't it run [13:57]
mircea_popescu k nm me [13:57]
ascii_field naturally shit gotta be scrubbed prior to linking [13:57]
mircea_popescu soo... [13:58]
mircea_popescu lol [13:58]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234555 << i was reading a "book" written by some romanian twerp who thinks himself famous (stand up comedian / singer), sent to me by retired whore (really, if you whore and can't retire by 25 or so, you're too stupid to live) of my generation, for the purpose of "see mr p, i told you the kids are fucktarded". ie, kids, the next set. [14:03]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 08:41:27; shinohai: No one wants to *do* anything BingoBoingo, they like instant validation you get by repeating whatever someone says on r/bitcoin now. [14:03]
mircea_popescu holy shit is the thing stupid. paragraphs have visible training wheels on them [14:03]
mircea_popescu "ambrosia" is explained in the text, because for retards. [14:04]
mircea_popescu that said, i can admire the guy for taking the time to do what really amounts to daycare for mentally retarded adults. but the thing itself is in-fucking-credible. [14:04]
mircea_popescu the whole thing reads like literotica is too advanced now, and it needs rewriting in simpler words with simplified story arcs. [14:05]
mircea_popescu and with better reinforcement throughout reinforcement throughout hello there, how goes it, we were talking about story arcs, you know, like bows hehehe, but reinforced throguhout throughout reinforced ps. this was a paragraph, and you read it well done ! [14:06]
mircea_popescu i am guessing romanian will have to move to a 3 to 4 letters per word mode soon or else it may go out of print. [14:07]
ascii_field or they could switch to english aha [14:07]
mircea_popescu rite. [14:07]
ascii_field rait [14:07]
mircea_popescu you know if i ever impregnate an isis fighter i'ma name her kid Rite Rait Al'Right. [14:08]
mircea_popescu (btw, if your oral english is your slave not your master, your reading of the name distinguishes the three phonemes. because they are fucking distinct in english omfg) [14:08]
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ascii_field wright right rite [14:09]
mircea_popescu the right-honorable baron rite rait al-right! [14:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22159 @ 0.00060849 = 13.4835 BTC [+] {3} [14:11]
mircea_popescu Mateusz Kopeć ? whossat. [14:12]
mircea_popescu ah random mod of obscure sub-alt-reddit mkay. [14:12]
mircea_popescu "I have been putting up ads on backpage letting people know I can teach about and sell them bitcoin. [14:14]
mircea_popescu I got a lot of responses, but you know what? I now understand why all of these women are hookers and i don't feel bad for them in the least. They are aggressive, flaky and dont want to understand what is happening around them. All I have been getting is women asking me for free bitcoin to buy their "medication". Its life and death apparently. [14:14]
mircea_popescu I have yet to sell a single satoshi." [14:14]
mircea_popescu this goes not-so-badly with the earlier link of dooglus' attempt to resurect the mpoe-pr visits the whore forum thing. [14:14]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why anglos have conflated whoredom and beggary. [14:14]
mircea_popescu it's not unlike conflating computer programming and autism, or bewing the runt in a family litter and being the politician. [14:15]
mircea_popescu both things they've also done. [14:15]
mircea_popescu why does anglo conflate so much and so stupidly ? is it because the 3-4 letter words universe ? [14:15]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: it is because, proximately, they picked the 'make'em stupid' school of mass management [14:16]
ascii_field as far back as 18th c [14:16]
mircea_popescu nah, this was the case way WAY before. [14:16]
mircea_popescu italian whores were accomplished throughout, like japanese whores. [14:16]
mircea_popescu english whores were mostly retarded, like chinese whores. [14:17]
mircea_popescu (notable exceptions, here and there, which shows it's not racial but fashio-cultural and fucktardinal) [14:17]
ascii_field possibly because ~their~ ruling class was... straight [14:17]
mircea_popescu italians ? straight ?! those rotinculo ? dun make me laugh, i might fart myself. [14:17]
ascii_field was mostly thinking of jp [14:19]
mircea_popescu in any case : the "many users" problem doesn't even need to be approached at the "hey, we need their spam allowed in the blocks more". [14:19]
mircea_popescu the bigger problem is that bitcoin coallesces. they won't HAVE any. [14:19]
ascii_field already happened, no ? [14:19]
mircea_popescu 99.x%. [14:20]
mircea_popescu going for 99.999999999999999999 [14:20]
ascii_field going for the mircea_popescu-and-five-phriends model ? [14:20]
ascii_field (fwiw that easily works..) [14:21]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 5*10**9 * (100-99.999999999999999999)/100 [14:21]
gribble 0 [14:21]
mircea_popescu not even. [14:21]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234606 << the innovation of fixing by midpoint is actually quite commandable. [14:22]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 09:27:34; punkman: they gotta manage everything "The midpoint for the yuan is now set at 6.2298 to $1, up from 6.1162 yuan on Monday. The People's Bank of China (POBC) manages the rate through the official midpoint, from which trade can rise or fall 2% on any given day." [14:22]
mircea_popescu historically people have tried min/maxing it [14:22]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234568 << that was mircea_popescu actually [14:33]
assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 08:56:46; BingoBoingo: When the last pre-0.8 wedge came through I suspected it was a BDB issue but alf was the one to euthanize it at the root. [14:33]
ascii_field (see logz) [14:33]
shinohai https://i.imgur.com/mxGoWZ7.jpg [14:36]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WfNQjG ) [14:36]
mircea_popescu hm isn't that ray cis ? [14:37]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: Ah [14:37]
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mircea_popescu "The Trotskyist is AGAINST Stalin just as the Communist is FOR him, and, like the majority of Communists, he wants not so much to alter the external world as to feel that the battle for prestige is going in his own favour." [14:39]
mircea_popescu heh. i suppose the widespread metanonsense is why people are so lost when confronted with groups utterly disinterested in prestige, [14:40]
mircea_popescu and especially in prestige among them. [14:40]
mircea_popescu ok, im fucking rewriting this thing. [14:42]
ascii_field 'Congress passed the Protect Act after the Supreme Court struck down a broader law prohibiting any visual depictions of minors engaged in sexual activity, including computer-generated imagery and other fakes. The high court ruled that the ban was too broad, and could cover legitimate speech, including Hollywood productions. [14:43]
ascii_field In response, the Protect Act narrows the prohibition to cover only depictions that the defendant’s community would consider “obscene.”' << vintage l0l [14:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13447 @ 0.0006085 = 8.1825 BTC [+] [14:43]
ascii_field do x in nyc, walk; do x in iowa - fed prison [14:43]
ascii_field ( http://www.wired.com/2010/02/obscene-us-manga-collector-jailed-6-months ) [14:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33845 @ 0.0006085 = 20.5947 BTC [+] [14:44]
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phf ben_vulpes: http://paste.lisp.org/display/152828#1 << read-sequence reads octets (i.e. unsigned bytes) into an array, so you want (make-array size :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8)) and you also want to then explicitly convert an octet array into a string. later is implementation dependent (since concerns encodings, etc.), ccl has DECODE-STRING-FROM-OCTETS and sbcl OCTETS-TO-STRING, both support encodings. since version is ascii, a naive converte [15:00]
phf r might look like (string-right-trim '(#Null) (map 'string 'code-char command)) [15:00]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HieixP ) [15:00]
phf ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/2Q2YKDB << so we were poking at gernika yesterday and it looks like CS didn't fully build. i'll take a look at his "successful" cs build log today, and see what comes up [15:02]
assbot dpaste: 2Q2YKDB ... ( http://bit.ly/1Weoti3 ) [15:02]
phf *with gernika rather [15:02]
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ascii_field https://twitter.com/addelindh/status/631040188010131456 [15:05]
shinohai LOLZ [15:06]
ascii_field obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885689 [15:08]
assbot Logged on 21-10-2014 01:30:35; asciilifeform: 'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of [15:08]
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mod6 ascii_field: for people who'd like to build rotor w/stator or rotor w/TEST2 on i386/i686, is there anything special that they would need to do to this file? rotor_buildroot_dot_config [15:25]
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mod6 comment out: "BR2_ARCH_IS_64=y" ? and set "BR2_i386=y" + [15:25]
ascii_field a few places [15:25]
ascii_field see the pogotron one for example [15:26]
mod6 oh ok will look thx. [15:26]
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shinohai :/ [16:13]
shinohai the new rotor script mod6 and I tried this weekend past is so easy a redditard could do it [16:13]
shinohai despite a few initial hiccups [16:13]
shinohai gofundme.com/gethanbota64bitcomputer [16:14]
shinohai I love craptops. I did buy 2 surplus lappys last year for btc tho [16:24]
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shinohai lolz: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3gk5ll/is_bitcoinxt_an_altcoin_or_a_forkcoin/ctyxvyw?context=3 [17:08]
assbot Vibr8gKiwi comments on is BitcoinXT an altcoin (or a forkcoin) ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4sbHJ ) [17:08]
trinque maybe it's a sporkcoin [17:24]
trinque pointless, useless compromise [17:24]
fluffypony yeah shinohai [17:26]
fluffypony that thread is a trainwreck [17:26]
shinohai Nary a shred of *actual logic (tm)* to be found. [17:27]
scoopbot_revived Implant ID Chips in Citizens Suggests Finnish Politician http://qntra.net/2015/08/implant-id-chips-in-citizens-suggests-finnish-politician/ [17:29]
shinohai Looks like they even got together and bribed cryptocoin "news" into pleading for them: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/discussion-of-bitcoin-xt-banned-from-bitcoin-subreddit/ [17:30]
assbot Discussion of Bitcoin-XT Banned from Bitcoin Subreddit - CCN: Financial Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency News ... ( http://bit.ly/1IX41Z4 ) [17:30]
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trinque "According to Pasi M??enranta because "the people" happily let Google and Facebook track them with smartphones there's no way this could be considered an invasion of privacy by citizens." [17:32]
trinque clearly the Nordic system is on the cutting edge, here. [17:33]
ascii_field shinohai: recent hearn (nsa) gambit. there's very little the amorphous masses love more than 'omg1111!!! censored!!' [17:33]
shinohai ^ [17:33]
trinque I expect to hear in a few years how backward America is because we don't yet have the chip system. [17:33]
ascii_field which lucky nord (can we call'em nords?) will be the first to be carved up for his dog tag ? [17:34]
ascii_field (by some enterprising somali) [17:34]
shinohai We don't need chips, nsa owns yer cellphones. [17:34]
shinohai Every 'murican has one glued to them nearly 24/7 [17:35]
trinque https://i.stack.imgur.com/zJvkc.jpg [17:36]
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ascii_field ^ 'what good is a phone call when you have no mouth' (tm) (r) [17:36]
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ascii_field at any rate, the art of human collar-making has not stood still! iirc the saudis even hold a patent on proper bomb-n-shock-n-gps collar [17:39]
ascii_field with two-way voice, etc [17:40]
ascii_field like in the film 'deadlock' but moar internety. [17:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00058919 = 8.9557 BTC [-] {3} [17:42]
ascii_field also pictured in, iirc, film 'cloud atlas' [17:43]
mats 'cloud atlas' was 5/10 [17:45]
ascii_field mentioned solely for the cattle collar [17:45]
thestringpuller did ascii_field just quote the matrix? [17:45]
ascii_field thestringpuller: linked picture was from it. [17:46]
ascii_field the scene where the robotic cockroach is implanted [17:46]
thestringpuller the last time I opened a link here at work was from MP and yea...awkward... [17:46]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/38e117ae408fe1b76a31d0c7a94311a9/tumblr_mh7j07RM3D1r6e6ngo1_1280.jpg [17:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHhLLF ) [17:51]
shinohai I ... regret [17:54]
trinque meh, one on the right's got some weird going on with her actual equipment iirc [17:54]
mircea_popescu as in it's fake ? [17:56]
shinohai Ouch >>> http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-miners-lawsuit-340k-default/ [17:56]
assbot GAW Miners Lawsuit Ends With $340k Default Judgement ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHiP28 ) [17:56]
trinque mircea_popescu: thought I saw a warty looking thing in a scene with her [17:56]
trinque forgot her name [17:56]
trinque this, my brain decided to file away for important moments such as now [17:56]
mircea_popescu i dunno who the fuck she is. [17:58]
mircea_popescu http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2015/04/12/hillary-clinton-good-for-white-feminism/ [18:00]
assbot Hillary Clinton: Good for White Feminism, Bad for Racial Justice - racismreview.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHjFfv ) [18:00]
mircea_popescu "While many people are excited about the prospect of the first woman president, I think that a Hillary Clinton presidency will be another in a long series of triumphs for white, corporate feminism and defeats for racial justice." [18:00]
mircea_popescu For her part, noted feminist Gloria Steinem said (in 2008) that she supported Clinton over Barack Obama because, “Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women…” [18:01]
mircea_popescu how the fuck is this stupid ass "noted" ? [18:01]
mircea_popescu "today i will drink mumm instead of cliquot, because german froth is so much later!" [18:01]
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-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [18:03]
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mircea_popescu "Katherine van Wormer Professor of Social Work University of Northern Iowa" [18:05]
mircea_popescu it is forbidden to have a course in nonsense. [18:05]
ascii_field tell it to usg [18:05]
mircea_popescu As for the “lesser of two evils” argument, I just have to quote from Ijeoma Oluo who was saying earlier: [18:05]
mircea_popescu Ijeoma Oluo ? srsly ? [18:05]
mircea_popescu https://t.co/rfr5pJiK93 << random internet fucktard begging page. [18:06]
assbot Support Ijeoma Oluo creating Words. Angry Words. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nokyt1 ) [18:06]
BingoBoingo ;;ud Aye Papi [18:07]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=aye+papi | aye papi. The new term, replacing "my ovaries," that sexually frustrated teenage girls use to describe a hot guy. Usually used on Twitter by Directioners. [18:07]
mircea_popescu i have never heard either used ?! [18:08]
shinohai I have heard "papi" quite a bit, usually from Mexican escorts. [18:11]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: spiffy orwell remake btw [18:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38077 @ 0.00060006 = 22.8485 BTC [+] [18:12]
mircea_popescu does it work ? [18:23]
mircea_popescu shinohai that just means daddy [18:23]
shinohai Oh I know what it means ;) [18:23]
mircea_popescu what's a directioner ? [18:23]
shinohai Papi chulo, etc [18:23]
shinohai Directioner? idk [18:24]
mats boy band. 'One Direction' [18:24]
shinohai http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Directioner [18:24]
assbot Urban Dictionary: Directioner ... ( http://bit.ly/1NomJgc ) [18:24]
shinohai oh ^ [18:24]
trinque every moronic thing has an "us" you can join these days [18:25]
trinque click here to join the burrito bandwagon! [18:25]
trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/11/us-iran-nuclear-kerry-idUSKCN0QG1V020150811 << do I detect Chinese pressure here? [18:28]
assbot Dollar could suffer if U.S. walks away from Iran deal: John Kerry [18:28]
shinohai http://www.marketwatch.com/story/traders-busted-after-enlisting-hackers-to-play-stock-market-to-net-100-million-2015-08-11 << [18:32]
assbot Traders busted after enlisting hackers to play stock market to net $100 million - MarketWatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1h0Wpis ) [18:32]
mircea_popescu but yes, he's right. obama has managed to put the us in the worst position of all [18:33]
mircea_popescu now it has to buy its foreign policy from iran ffs. [18:33]
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ascii_field 'Over five years, two computer hackers living in Ukraine broke into U.S. newswire services including Business Wire and PRNewswire and stole more than 100,000 press releases for publicly traded companies before their release. Those documents, which included earnings data, were distributed to a network of traders who used the advance knowledge to buy or sell securities based on how they anticipated the market would react to [18:34]
ascii_field the announcements, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission complaint.' [18:34]
mircea_popescu “The reality of the situation is that the U.S. dollar hasn’t been this strong in decades. The thought that it could be replaced as a reserve currency is laughable at this point on a geopolitical basis and nothing in the Iran deal even remotely touches upon that issue,” he added. [18:34]
ascii_field ^ only loyal aryans may front-run! [18:34]
mircea_popescu lulzy. [18:34]
trinque https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M1SL [18:34]
assbot M1 Money Stock - FRED - St. Louis Fed ... ( http://bit.ly/1NonWUI ) [18:34]
trinque uh huh [18:35]
trinque and that's according to their bullshit numbers [18:35]
mircea_popescu " Obama has never ruled out military force if negotiations failed" [18:36]
mircea_popescu ahahaha o lordy. [18:36]
* mircea_popescu would like to see this one. [18:36]
mircea_popescu "Thanks for your comment, dumspirospero! I appreciate your appreciation of the post." [18:38]
mircea_popescu i hereby validate one derp's appreciation of the other derp's appreciation of the first derp's appreciations on issues she doesn't understand and wasn't really asked about. [18:39]
mircea_popescu anyone care to appreciate my validation so we can make it a social media ? [18:39]
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shinohai I concur! You're now popular! [18:40]
trinque mircea_popescu: I appreciate the opportunity to take part in this meta-appreciation. upboated, or something [18:40]
mircea_popescu we are moving the conversation to the left! [18:41]
trinque I can feel a consensus building already [18:41]
shinohai Yay deddit, we did it! [18:41]
mircea_popescu where's that bottle of queefs [18:42]
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trinque I bet gloria steinem has one [18:43]
mircea_popescu “White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” [18:44]
mircea_popescu let's play guess the genius. [18:44]
ascii_field mao ? [18:44]
BingoBoingo Elijah Muhammed [18:44]
mircea_popescu mnope. [18:44]
mircea_popescu neithert [18:44]
ascii_field gandhi [18:45]
BingoBoingo Farrakan [18:45]
mircea_popescu neither. [18:45]
BingoBoingo It sounds very Nation of Islam... [18:45]
mircea_popescu it actually isn't. [18:45]
mircea_popescu but yeah [18:46]
trinque doesn't sound like a very sharp guy if you ask me [18:46]
mircea_popescu very sharp actually. [18:47]
mircea_popescu reverend al sharpton in point of fact. [18:47]
ascii_field l0l! [18:47]
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trinque hehe [18:47]
mircea_popescu how exactly did some us black guy get his "we" to include i presume egyptians, which weren't black while he wasn't in africa, is anyone's guess. [18:47]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: this particular delusion is known to have originated with a particular academitard, but his name escapes me [18:48]
mircea_popescu i suppose they got numbers from the indians while they were exploring zanzibar [18:48]
ascii_field soviet elephants are the biggest elephants (tm) (r) [18:48]
mircea_popescu the island 50 miles off the coast which you can see on a clear day, but which the mud packing philosophers and astrologo-mathematicians of a certain complexion failed to find, [18:49]
mircea_popescu pewople had to come from fucking indonesia [18:49]
mircea_popescu anyway. a truly very liberal gent. [18:49]
ascii_field madagascar aha [18:49]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: this particular delusion is known to have originated with a particular academitard, but his name escapes me << Actually harder to pin down. Variations had been going on in Black Christian circles since the early 1800's at least, but Nation of Islam really brought this crazy to the mainstream [18:53]
ascii_field was speaking of ancient egypt specifically [18:53]
mircea_popescu fwiw, thjere's a contingent of deranged romanians who believe zamolxis taught the romans to read. [18:54]
mircea_popescu they even had statal support for a while. [18:54]
ascii_field the ducks are unloaded from the trucks! [18:54]
mircea_popescu and obviously usians have their own john smiths etc. [18:54]
mircea_popescu so... [18:54]
mircea_popescu every group lays the same pretense. irrespective of the justification. much like every absoute monarchy sooner or later got around to deriving the monarch from the sun [18:55]
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mircea_popescu poor star had no fucking idea how many women it had impregnated, from paris to shanghai [18:55]
mircea_popescu if only it exercised safer sex. [18:55]
shinohai I think my favorite Al Sharptonism is "Jewing the numbers" [18:55]
trinque is that like... counting with them? [18:55]
shinohai It's a broad statement. [18:57]
mircea_popescu more like making them come out to him being a parasite. [18:57]
gernika BingoBoingo was there not a Nubian dynasty that ruled Egypt at some point? Apparently lasted 75 years? [18:57]
mircea_popescu there was also a circassian one presumably. [18:58]
BingoBoingo gernika: Nubian isn't West African [18:58]
mircea_popescu nubia is what used to be kush, today's sudan [18:59]
mircea_popescu "upper egypt" [18:59]
shinohai https://i.imgur.com/KobQKdF.png << related to mircea_popescu 's trap picture earlier [19:01]
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mircea_popescu uh... what does he mean women "won't do this" ?! [19:03]
trinque what's this, trap supremacy? [19:03]
mircea_popescu i suppose the theory is that "italians have forgotten how to sing and only french royal comedy institute knows anymore" [19:03]
mircea_popescu actual argument, in actual debate, at the time of diderot & co [19:03]
shinohai hue [19:04]
* trinque goes to code in a van down by the river [19:05]
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trinque more like vw, and more like next to it, but whatever! [19:05]
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BingoBoingo http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aPy6r0P_700b_v2.jpg [19:17]
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shinohai http://www.ibtimes.co.in/russia-may-ban-reddit-over-thread-how-grow-narcotic-plants-642566 looooooooooool [19:25]
assbot Russia May Ban Reddit Over Thread on 'How to Grow Narcotic Plants' ... ( http://bit.ly/1gxNSCC ) [19:25]
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mircea_popescu censorsheep! [19:31]
shinohai I kek'd [19:39]
shinohai And I just got delivered a fifth of some kind of brandy. [19:39]
shinohai tasty [19:40]
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* kakobrekla just saw a 1990 movie 'Hardware', subtitled 'you can't stop pr0gr355' [21:09]
kakobrekla goes quite well with ba theme. [21:10]
shinohai :D [21:10]
kakobrekla still on server can give link if anyone wants. [21:11]
shinohai link me, I'll save it for when I have insomnia [21:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25879 @ 0.0006056 = 15.6723 BTC [+] {3} [21:15]
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kakobrekla ill move to another boxen and leave link in public for a short while. [21:17]
pete_dushenski !s moore [21:18]
assbot 121 results for 'moore' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=moore [21:18]
pete_dushenski http://pagesix.com/2015/08/05/michael-moore-selling-spectacular-michigan-lake-house-for-5-2m/ << different moore than most of the ones in teh search [21:19]
assbot Michael Moore selling spectacular Michigan lake house for $5.2M | Page Six ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTgh1R ) [21:19]
trinque truly hideous entryway [21:21]
trinque photo 13 [21:21]
pete_dushenski that wallpaper looks like bad bathroom tile from the 60s [21:22]
trinque terrible. [21:22]
pete_dushenski liking the gym space but junky equipment needs a refresh [21:23]
pete_dushenski photo 35 [21:23]
trinque lol @ moore having a home gym [21:24]
trinque some rooms are nice, others entirely haphazard [21:24]
trinque could be the shots [21:25]
trinque #23 makes my skin crawl [21:25]
pete_dushenski real estate photographers famously embellish [21:25]
pete_dushenski it's not really my taste either [21:25]
pete_dushenski but neither is he, so it's perhaps no surprise [21:25]
trinque yeah [21:25]
pete_dushenski http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything-goes/official-ex-top-gear-team-sign-deal-amazon-video << usg picks up where bbc dropped ball [21:26]
assbot Official: Ex-Top Gear team sign a deal with Amazon Video | Autocar ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTgGl5 ) [21:26]
pete_dushenski tg2 looks to be only available in us and uk markets. sorry canuckians. [21:29]
pete_dushenski ftr i think that hammond, may, and clarkson are past their prime and should hang up their towels [21:30]
pete_dushenski they should be hosting daytime tv shows or something [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97900 @ 0.00058891 = 57.6543 BTC [-] {5} [21:31]
kakobrekla said link, wont keep it up awfully long http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/tmp/Hardware.1990.BDRip.576P.X264.AC3-UNiQUE.mkv [21:34]
pete_dushenski .mkv eh. now to find a player for this guy. [21:35]
kakobrekla vlc? [21:35]
pete_dushenski pretty sure i have vlc on an older machine, i'll make it work [21:36]
kakobrekla anyway, its not at the level of 'brazil' but had lulz [21:36]
pete_dushenski don't suppose you have brazil and can post as well [21:37]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUkymOb3zA << youtube's version of 'brazil' [21:38]
assbot Brazil Football (Soccer) Body Paint Girl - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEUtB4 ) [21:38]
trinque brazil is one of my favorite films [21:39]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW2gJ_6t8PQ << or this [21:39]
assbot Brazil 1985 Full Movie Official - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEUy7V ) [21:40]
kakobrekla brazil i have on home server, would need to upload. [21:40]
pete_dushenski trinque: i haven't seen it myself, seen it in the logs who knows how many times [21:40]
pete_dushenski wonder if mp's done a review [21:40]
pete_dushenski ;;google trilema.com brazil [21:41]
gribble The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume I on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; Further Argentine weird. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: ; The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume VI on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: [21:41]
phf pete_dushenski: fyi, it's available freely on kat.cr, probably can be downloaded at pipe saturation level, rather then pulling it from someone's http [21:41]
kakobrekla brazil: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:FD297C623222220A30A90D66EBAD7BFE292EA0C8&dn=brazil+1985+720p+brrip+x264+yify&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.com%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337 [21:41]
pete_dushenski aha cheers. [21:42]
pete_dushenski i dun really torrent so i think i'll stick with the yt :) [21:42]
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nubbins` kakobrekla tks for the movie! [21:43]
nubbins` been a while since i tried a mystery-viewing [21:43]
kakobrekla yw:) [21:43]
nubbins` plus i so rarely have occasion to download large files [21:44]
nubbins` it's nice to exercise the fiber, even if it seems a bit slow [21:44]
nubbins` topping out at ~3.2MB/s [21:44]
kakobrekla box is in europe [21:44]
nubbins` heh that'll do it [21:44]
nubbins` i'm probably going backwards to toronto or montreal first [21:44]
nubbins` so i had to download a font yesterday for a client project. txt file in folder says "this font was created for the first ever european furry convention" [21:45]
nubbins` o.O [21:45]
trinque your client's a furry, dude [21:46]
trinque where else could he have seen it?! [21:47]
pete_dushenski http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/07/us/form-for-drug-dealers-to-snitch-on-competitors-results-in-an-arrest.html << notbad. [21:47]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEUS6m ) [21:47]
nubbins` while i do own a full-body wolf suit, i've never had sex or masturbated while wearing it [21:47]
pete_dushenski yet. [21:47]
Apocalyptic kakobrekla, thanks, can you provide a sha256sum of the file ? [21:48]
nubbins` pete_dushenski mine sides [21:48]
pete_dushenski keep fit, have fun [21:48]
kakobrekla Apocalyptic 1aa710beb9f8d464756dd50a0484d60b563e2aab623aff6444b2dc4a4dccd0e2 Hardware.1990.BDRip.576P.X264.AC3-UNiQUE.mkv [21:49]
Apocalyptic ty [21:49]
kakobrekla sure [21:49]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1p6K0xGKd0 << for non-canuckians who don't know the legacy of hal johnson and joanne mcleod [21:50]
assbot Body Break - Airplane Exercises (1992) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEUZiw ) [21:50]
nubbins` hal is not the same without the soup strainer [21:50]
nubbins` peaked at 3.3MB/s, notbadforeuro.jpg [21:51]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: i dun get it, hal lost his stache ? [21:51]
nubbins` he shaved it in recent years [21:52]
nubbins` they still make new commercials from time to time [21:52]
pete_dushenski now this is news to me [21:52]
pete_dushenski been too long since i had cable tv i guess [21:52]
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nubbins` srsly, one day "who is this man standing next to joanne mcleod?" [21:52]
pete_dushenski lol "get that fraud away from that saint!" [21:53]
nubbins` https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/haljoanne.jpg?w=620 [21:53]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTiSc0 ) [21:53]
nubbins` fucked up hey? [21:53]
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pete_dushenski o good god hal looks like a street corner fallel stand operator [21:53]
pete_dushenski "you want extra special sauce ? [21:54]
pete_dushenski " [21:54]
nubbins` dory tried to climb up onto my shoulders as i stood up ;/ [21:56]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/Ih3Bgc7 [21:56]
assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTj9vC ) [21:56]
nubbins` maybe the most outta-focus picture i've ever taken [21:56]
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trinque dat chin tho [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00060086 = 4.2661 BTC [+] [22:17]
mats looks like illegal drugs mate [22:21]
mats reported [22:21]
pete_dushenski did you fill out the form ? [22:23]
mats prepare to be deported [22:23]
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mike_c ;;seen Naphex [22:32]
gribble Naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky [22:32]
pete_dushenski mats: canada only imports [22:33]
pete_dushenski people, that is. [22:34]
pete_dushenski only natural resources are deported [22:34]
mike_c ;;later tell Naphex I may have some need for order matching code. I'd be interested in talking about btcxchange codebase sometime if you're interested [22:34]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:34]
phf according to bitcoin script documentation "Some of the more complicated opcodes are disabled out of concern that the client might have a bug in their implementation" (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script). an example of disabled script OP_CAT, Concatenates two strings [22:34]
Naphex mike_c: i was just about to go to sleep but shoot me a privmsg tomorrow [22:35]
mike_c sounds good [22:35]
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phf i'm either missing some hidden issues, or this literally says "some aspect of scripts are unimplemented, because memory manipulation is too hard" [22:36]
mircea_popescu no, that's what it says. [22:44]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski nah, didn't write up brazil. [22:47]
pete_dushenski i just might have to take a crack at brazil myself then [22:49]
pete_dushenski your loss ! [22:50]
pete_dushenski (or the reader's loss but who cares about them ? ) [22:50]
asciilifeform phf is in for a treat [22:50]
asciilifeform as he reads that thing and approaches the magic moment, [22:51]
asciilifeform where you realize 'this is a bucket of liquid shit' [22:51]
mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/Ih3Bgc7 << is that your crochet stick ? [22:51]
assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTj9vC ) [22:51]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski i saw it, and i think it's great. just... writing's not automatic! [22:52]
shinohai https://www.beta.facebook.com/directory/ [22:52]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: in this, i commiserate [22:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXEsag ) [22:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the magic moment is the part where you go "and yet unlike every other bucket of lick-a-squid shit, the maker of this one was clearly aware. wtf ?!?!" [22:52]
asciilifeform aha that one. [22:52]
asciilifeform in other non-news, steve dutch (of 'anti-intellectualism' and madagascar essay, etc) is back. with a couplea new lulz, e.g., https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/IssueNeverIssue.HTM ; and even a blog of sorts, http://stevedutch.blogspot.com [22:53]
assbot The Principle is Never The Principle ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXEAXq ) [22:53]
assbot Steve Dutch ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXEAqo ) [22:53]
mircea_popescu sigh, moar blogspot. [22:56]
asciilifeform the extra-lulzy 'meta' aspect of this is that the fella is becoming more and more of an open, frothing defender of usg-in-all-of-its-glory, e.g., https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/AsymmWarfare.htm [22:57]
assbot Why Vietnam and Afghanistan Matter ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXEQ8P ) [22:57]
mircea_popescu and .HTM like it's 1993 and microsoft dreamweaver, and "Failed to connect to server. The reason may be that the encryption methods supported by the server are not enabled in the security preferences." and aww. [22:57]
asciilifeform htm-like-93 is prolly the one nice thing that can be said [22:58]
asciilifeform i wish folks would txt like it's '83, personally [22:58]
asciilifeform but perhaps that's just me. [22:58]
mircea_popescu i dunno, i dislike capitalised extensions [22:59]
mircea_popescu must be idiosincrasia officinalis. [22:59]
asciilifeform idk, they evoke nostalgic msdos in my mind [22:59]
asciilifeform but only if precisely 3 characters. [22:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23949 @ 0.00060086 = 14.39 BTC [+] [23:04]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/2ANHPSB.txt http://dpaste.com/0243K1T.txt if you feel like it. [23:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXFjro ) [23:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXFl2s ) [23:04]
asciilifeform ^ for anyone else who 'failed to connect to server' [23:04]
ben_vulpes oh lookie [23:05]
ben_vulpes i'm about 3.6klols behind [23:05]
ben_vulpes and no time to catch up yet this week [23:05]
mats such an obsession with feces here [23:10]
asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3gntyw/sabrio_wants_to_unmask_bitcoin_transactions_and << moar lulz [23:10]
assbot SABR.io wants to unmask Bitcoin transactions and has raised $1 million in funding. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXFOlp ) [23:10]
asciilifeform how long has it been since sc4mz0rz quit doing the most elementary homework to see if other, larger and better-connected sc4mz0rz are pulling the same scam already ? [23:12]
asciilifeform (or is it a 'little fleas' situation?) [23:12]
mats https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity15/technical-sessions/presentation/gruss [23:13]
assbot Cache Template Attacks: Automating Attacks on Inclusive Last-Level Caches | USENIX ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXG2J7 ) [23:13]
asciilifeform 'SABR is seeking engineers with deep interest and experience in blockchain-based technologies who are prepared to devote their career to making a positive impact while being continuously intellectually challenged.' << am i the only one who sees a second parse for this sentence ?? [23:14]
asciilifeform '... while being continuously intellectually challenged.' [23:14]
Apocalyptic heh [23:15]
Apocalyptic I guess that's about right [23:15]
* mircea_popescu reads one [23:15]
asciilifeform 'intellectually challenged' is '90s-usg-speak for 'tard' [23:16]
asciilifeform fwiw. [23:16]
mircea_popescu "Ultimately it's undergirded by one of the great intellectual fallacies of modern times, the obsession with structure as opposed to content. If structure is all important, then if two conflicts have similar structure, they are similar." [23:16]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, I heard it's now rude to say "blind" in the us, one must say "visually challenged" [23:17]
asciilifeform mats: iirc inria had a cycle-and-cache-accurate x86 emulator. might be up your alley. [23:18]
mircea_popescu "In fact, most people are out of their depth in a mud puddle." [23:19]
mircea_popescu "Mostly it's laziness (or shallowness) and an attempt to seize the moral high ground. It's hard to defend specific issues when you're confronted by someone who simply rejects your basic premises. How do you find out what lines of argument they would find persuasive? (Hint: ask them. Say "what exactly would you accept as proof that I'm right?" Most of the time they don't have a clue, because most people only think about [23:20]
mircea_popescu why they're right, not how they might be wrong.)" [23:20]
mircea_popescu amusingly enough, for all the people who have all sorts of malformed opinions, cvasi-ideas and ready judgement about "how mp is!11" stemming out of some sort of emotional knee jerk over me not caring for whatever pet peeve of theirs, NONE to date has actually tried the "hey mp, what'd it take to convince you feminists are not retarded children and socialism is really the path to go!" [23:21]
mircea_popescu but hey, i wait. [23:21]
asciilifeform 'goblins don't craft weapons' [23:22]
asciilifeform (tm) (r) (mircea_popescu) [23:22]
mircea_popescu not even a weapon. they also don't craft houses, or water pipes. [23:22]
asciilifeform [insert the take about a girl walking by plumber in geyser of shit] [23:24]
asciilifeform *tale [23:24]
mats asciilifeform: cool [23:24]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla did ddos move over to logs ? [23:27]
mircea_popescu nm back now. i swear it was dead for a coupl;a minutes [23:27]
asciilifeform prolly folks pulling the l333337 w4r3z [23:28]
asciilifeform (linked earlier) [23:28]
phf part of upcoming mp vs. mpaa [23:28]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: any chance we might see log1 again in the near future ? [23:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform except they weren't also hosted ? [23:31]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski i dun recall what the problem was with it, i think it mostly fell through the cracks for lack of pressing need. the server's up at any rate. [23:32]
asciilifeform ~shrug~ ask kako [23:32]
asciilifeform http://stevedutch.blogspot.com/2013/12/too-dumb-to-run-lemonade-stand.html << moar vintage prof. d. lulz [23:33]
assbot Steve Dutch: Too Dumb to Run a Lemonade Stand ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXHmM5 ) [23:33]
mats this penning's thing is turning out to be as much work as the rest of the key server comined [23:33]
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asciilifeform penning ? [23:33]
asciilifeform mats is trapping charged particles ? [23:34]
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mats Maintains the strong set, displays some statistics as to it in the manner of Penning's thing [http://pgp.cs.uu.nl] << [23:34]
asciilifeform ah, that. [23:34]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: iirc you pointed the finger at kako and he pointed it back at you. in any event, i'd like to see it back up. never know when said pressing need might arise. [23:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform is the lemonade stand <=> dope slinging ? [23:35]
asciilifeform lulzier [23:35]
asciilifeform he was pissing on 'mba' [23:36]
mircea_popescu mats oh, yeah. that. [23:36]
asciilifeform (popular scapegoat in usa) [23:36]
mircea_popescu it will be epic tho. [23:36]
mircea_popescu ;;ud Obama Derangement Syndrome [23:39]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Obama+Derangement+Syndrome | Obama's positions better reflect the change and new direction that the American people have been calling for, but those with Obama Derangement Syndrome ... [23:39]
mircea_popescu strangely enough, the dsm-ud did not have a heading for "bush-reactive psychopathy" [23:40]
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pete_dushenski sounds like a krugman term [23:41]
pete_dushenski http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/10/opinion/paul-krugman-gop-candidates-and-obamas-failure-to-fail.html << specifically [23:41]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXHV8I ) [23:42]
pete_dushenski "Out there in the real world, none of the disasters their party predicted have actually come to pass. President Obama just keeps failing to fail. And that’s a big problem for the G.O.P. — even bigger than Donald Trump." [23:42]
mircea_popescu "Hey, who wouldn't vote for Morgan Freeman? Obama is unabashedly liberal, intelligent, and acts like he knows it. He's "uppity." People who think they're superior run headlong into someone who is superior, and they don't like it." [23:42]
mircea_popescu check it out ?! [23:42]
asciilifeform http://stevedutch.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-most-evil-people-in-american-history.html << comedically lulzy [23:42]
assbot Steve Dutch: The Most Evil People in American History ... ( http://bit.ly/1IXI2Bl ) [23:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i rarely get to read folk who at the same time seem able to find their way out of a paper bag and actually believe obama similarly could. [23:43]
mircea_popescu is this played straight ? [23:43]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you dig, dig, turns out herr dutch has a little seekrit [23:43]
asciilifeform well, not quite [23:43]
asciilifeform but apparently he's somewhat of a... catholic apologist, in the old school. [23:43]
asciilifeform didn't know they made those any more. [23:43]
mircea_popescu but i mean... sure, he's uppity. i have yet to see a sign of intelligence. [23:44]
asciilifeform hence the combo of 'brain' but 'wtf' [23:44]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how's that relate to hm. [23:44]
mircea_popescu i dunno, i kinda don't look at that part, because plenty of orthodox nuts otherwise very intelligent. [23:44]
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mircea_popescu also a few jews with the same odd behaviour. [23:44]
* asciilifeform not a shrink. but, on reflection, has seen this before. [23:45]
asciilifeform 'You did virtually nothing to create the conveniences you enjoy. The retirement plan 300 years ago was: get up, go to work, come home, go to bed, repeat. Then one day, you didn't get up because you were dead. ' << mega-clairvoyant! knows my retirement plan! [23:47]
asciilifeform ( http://stevedutch.blogspot.com/2012/05/forget-third-parties-we-need-fourth.html ) [23:47]
assbot Steve Dutch: Forget Third Parties: We Need a Fourth Party, (And Why We Won't Get One) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTpDdY ) [23:47]
mircea_popescu i beg to differ. [23:49]
mircea_popescu i am not a person in the sense of this rootless, hopeless lotus floating on a sea that somehow is owned byu "the state". [23:50]
asciilifeform then to herr dutch you are a dragon and don't exist [23:50]
asciilifeform naturally. [23:50]
mircea_popescu i am the proud result of an endless line that predates all states, and the fucking lake, the lake's bottom, and the core of the earth are mine. [23:50]
mircea_popescu so... take teh "oh you didn't create" talk an' dangle. [23:51]
mircea_popescu no state ever created anything. it was another mircea that carried the fucking head of the turk pasha after that one failed crusade when all of europe ran off and the us wasn't invented yet. [23:51]
asciilifeform dutch (damn it why do i have to run this fella under emulation..) would prolly answer 'you and what nuke' [23:51]
mircea_popescu and so there. [23:51]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, but i care what he asks like i care what the mosquito buzzes. [23:52]
mircea_popescu he'd better buzz out of range, if it knows what's good for its retirement plan. [23:52]
* asciilifeform is reading these words to the tune of a million actual mosquitoes. somehow appropriate [23:53]
mircea_popescu you know they don't seem to exist here ? [23:53]
asciilifeform we have'em here: large, small, all sizes [23:53]
mircea_popescu fucking insane, river, swamp, the works. [23:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and the ones that did exist, could not bite me! [23:53]
asciilifeform srsly wtf [23:53]
asciilifeform folks kept swatting'em but apparently nobody - iirc - bitten [23:54]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes ? mod6 ? any of you went home with mosquito bite ? [23:54]
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mircea_popescu they are kinda incredibly derpy. [23:54]
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