Forum logs for 10 Mar 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Bowjob | this is looking more like a 600 BTC heist | [00:00] |
Bowjob | and 30,000 dice share heist | [00:00] |
MJR_ | yeah, they aren't doing anything that you or I couldn't do ourselves | [00:00] |
MJR_ | but they are using their time to do those stupid tasks | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu | MJR_ i dunno what the use is tho | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu | basically... more spam | [00:00] |
MJR_ | maybe. SEO | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [00:01] |
MJR_ | Attract new customers | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob sucks. | [00:01] |
kakobrekla | Bowjob urlpls? | [00:02] |
MJR_ | mostly have your article reposted with a Forbes.com or CNN.com domain attached | [00:02] |
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MJR_ | ok guys I am switching to my real name | [00:03] |
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* | MJR_ is now known as Josh_Rossi | [00:04] |
kakobrekla | lol | [00:05] |
Josh_Rossi | this is weird | [00:05] |
Josh_Rossi | my first name is reall Maximo | [00:05] |
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kakobrekla | Bowjob link? | [00:06] |
Bowjob | umm | [00:06] |
Bowjob | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63614 | [00:07] |
Bowjob | Hasn't been online since the 4th | [00:07] |
Bowjob | he was due for march 8th for his first payment | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | tho in fairness, isn't he working in like shipping ? | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | or oil or something ? | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | like, away for weeks ? | [00:07] |
Bowjob | mhm, not sure | [00:07] |
Bowjob | if he works in oil.. | [00:07] |
Bowjob | there should be some internet at least | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | depends. | [00:08] |
pigeons | heh, not on the rigs | [00:08] |
Bowjob | he works in alberta,.. yah its like 34 dollars per hour there | [00:08] |
Bowjob | mcdonalds people make $14 per hour | [00:08] |
Bowjob | but rent there is very exp | [00:08] |
Bowjob | ill stay in vancouver lol | [00:08] |
Bowjob | also, again he's late in his first payment thats defaulting right there | [00:08] |
Josh_Rossi | good luck :) | [00:08] |
Bowjob | "Short BTC600 @ $34.50" | [00:09] |
Bowjob | Says on his profile | [00:09] |
Josh_Rossi | yep | [00:09] |
Bowjob | bad move imo | [00:09] |
Bowjob | you do not short BTC | [00:09] |
Bowjob | lol | [00:09] |
Josh_Rossi | $6000 down or so? | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | le ouch | [00:10] |
Bowjob | yah | [00:10] |
Bowjob | oh and thats just principal | [00:10] |
Josh_Rossi | he is up on his sdice though | [00:10] |
Bowjob | theres interest too | [00:10] |
Bowjob | dude his dice short isnt much to cover for it | [00:10] |
Josh_Rossi | yeah | [00:10] |
Josh_Rossi | just saying | [00:10] |
FabianB_ | if anyone is interested in an MPEx client that supports its IRC bots: https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex | [00:10] |
FabianB_ | still a little rough, but works for me | [00:10] |
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Bowjob | around march 22 we should see something interesting | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.msg1589556#msg1589556 | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | seems cablepair was well known scammer ?! is this factual ? | [00:11] |
Bowjob | thats where coinlab starts playing | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob where he shiorted at ? 60 ? | [00:11] |
Bowjob | 0.62 | [00:11] |
Josh_Rossi | do you calculate based on last or on bid? | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | o wow FabianB_ ! | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | ppl please test his bot. | [00:11] |
Josh_Rossi | cuz at one point it was at 35 | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | well, if he closed at 35 then he's golden | [00:12] |
Josh_Rossi | yes | [00:13] |
FabianB_ | didn't try it on non-unix systems yet, hope it works there too though | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | if not, he's up | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | like 3-4 btc | [00:13] |
Josh_Rossi | !calc 40,000 * .0012 | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 40,000 * .0012 | [00:15] |
gribble | Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 40000 * .0012 | [00:15] |
gribble | 48.0 | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | course mkt depth shows lowest ask at 58.8 | [00:15] |
Josh_Rossi | up 48 btc if its at .005 | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | that'd be 3.2 not 12 | [00:15] |
Josh_Rossi | oh nice | [00:15] |
Josh_Rossi | for me that is | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | and cause of slippage buying 40k takes avg price more to like 59.5 | [00:16] |
Josh_Rossi | ooh, when does he have to settle his position? | [00:16] |
Bowjob | may 1st | [00:16] |
Bowjob | i think | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | that may be painful. | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | with asicminer blowing over... | [00:16] |
Bowjob | May 17 2013. | [00:17] |
Bowjob | there | [00:17] |
Bowjob | I weep for Basic victims | [00:18] |
Bowjob | but I laugh at BFL victims.. I seem to be irrational | [00:19] |
Bowjob | >_> | [00:19] |
Bowjob | Stockholm syndrome is hilarious | [00:19] |
Josh_Rossi | hehehe | [00:21] |
Josh_Rossi | who lent him the shares to short? | [00:21] |
Bowjob | it was tradefortress for 7k, and some random dude at 30k | [00:22] |
kakobrekla | and TF runs a 'fund' | [00:22] |
kakobrekla | prolly shares from there? | [00:22] |
mircea_popescu | prolly. | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.0 | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | it does look sad. | [00:23] |
Bowjob | i just skimmed thru it, asic miner, popped? | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | financials don't look too good | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | and they blew their ipo | [00:24] |
Bowjob | oh i see | [00:24] |
Bowjob | im watching max keiser.. show. he seems like a nutjob over btc | [00:25] |
Bowjob | i mean i want btc to go as much as the next person, but he seems shady | [00:25] |
Bowjob | lol | [00:25] |
kakobrekla | he mentioned before, but now he met everwhores | [00:25] |
kakobrekla | and he is hyped | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | ahahahaaaa | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | omfg that is totally it. | [00:25] |
Bowjob | is he for real lol | [00:25] |
kakobrekla | for srs | [00:26] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151182.0 | [00:26] |
Bowjob | lol | [00:27] |
Bowjob | i dunno. max seems like a used car salesman | [00:27] |
Bowjob | and a snake oil peddler | [00:27] |
kakobrekla | hes fucked up on btc | [00:27] |
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Josh_Rossi | yes | [00:27] |
Josh_Rossi | I said earlier that he sounds like he's on meth | [00:28] |
smickles | bitcoin jesus? i'll just go back in my hole | [00:28] |
Josh_Rossi | also, he loves btc, but I don't think he knows a lot about them | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | smickles how many geebuses have we had so far? | [00:28] |
smickles | I really don't keep track | [00:29] |
Bowjob | i tell my friends every now and then about bitcoin.. but i dont say i'll be rich over it | [00:29] |
smickles | once, at a beer pong table, I was called jesus. I forgave them. | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | you do look kinda jesusy | [00:30] |
smickles | 'specially with my hair down | [00:30] |
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mjr_ | lol my whole office asks me every day | [00:39] |
mjr_ | so where are they at today? | [00:39] |
kakobrekla | hehe | [00:39] |
mjr_ | a coworker wanted to short them | [00:40] |
Bowjob | ouch | [00:40] |
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Bowjob | how much are asicminer shares now | [00:40] |
mjr_ | so at first he told me that we should just say that i would owe him a dollar for every dollar it goes down and he would owe me a dollar for every dollar it goes up | [00:41] |
kakobrekla | !ticker btct asicminer-pt | [00:41] |
assbot | [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.679 / 0.90177 / 1 (166 shares, 149.7 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC) | [00:41] |
mjr_ | lol | [00:41] |
Bowjob | 0.6 per share??? | [00:41] |
mjr_ | I was too nice and told him I didn't want him writing naked calls | [00:41] |
kakobrekla | 0.6 was the low | [00:41] |
Bowjob | so almost 1 btc [er share | [00:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [+] | [00:42] |
Bowjob | isnt that kinda too high | [00:42] |
Bowjob | lol | [00:42] |
kakobrekla | 0.9 avg | [00:42] |
mjr_ | like I know my risk it's $45 | [00:42] |
mjr_ | you could be on the hook for millions | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | mjr_ why not just use the mpex options i don't get it ?! | [00:42] |
mjr_ | he doesn't have any bitcoins | [00:43] |
mjr_ | and I already use the mpex options | [00:43] |
* | mjr_ bought the 41 call | [00:43] |
mjr_ | this month | [00:43] |
mjr_ | that was before it had hit 32 I think but I don't remember | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | so if he doesn't have btc, why are we talking to huim lol | [00:44] |
mjr_ | OIX :) | [00:44] |
mjr_ | like I said he's my coworker | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | o you two work together ? | [00:45] |
mjr_ | yep | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | o nm nm | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | i was thinking we're still discussing bakewell | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | my bad | [00:45] |
mjr_ | nah all good | [00:45] |
mjr_ | ok so I registered | [00:46] |
mjr_ | now I want to set up the pgp signature | [00:46] |
Bowjob | http://blockchain.info/charts/market-price?timespan=180days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address= | [00:46] |
Namworld | the heck | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld Bowjob they had a db issue | [00:47] |
Namworld | BTC was worth 45 USD all that time, just no one knew about it... | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | lost some data it seems | [00:48] |
Namworld | I prefer my explanation | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | lolk | [00:48] |
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jborkl_ | !mp http://dpaste.com/1017659/ | [00:49] |
assbot | Processing. | [00:49] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017661/plain/ | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl_ paste an address | [00:50] |
mircea_popescu | this is getting painful to watch | [00:50] |
kakobrekla | !mp http://dpaste.com/1017669/ | [00:51] |
assbot | Processing. | [00:51] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017670/plain/ | [00:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58999999 BTC [+] | [00:52] |
Bowjob | quite a nice recovery | [00:52] |
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Bowjob | on dice | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | i like how this channel jumped to like 130 users lately. | [00:53] |
kakobrekla | moar spam | [00:53] |
kakobrekla | well accually is not bad. | [00:54] |
kakobrekla | seen it worse | [00:54] |
benkay | what's in the !mp output - a dump of the current order book? | [00:54] |
kakobrekla | !help | [00:56] |
assbot | List of commands: | [00:56] |
assbot | !ticker |
[00:56] |
assbot | !mp |
[00:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+] | [00:58] |
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benkay | "returns the response from MPEX order" - means that i can place orders via dpaste (given encryption etc)? | [00:59] |
kakobrekla | ya | [00:59] |
mircea_popescu | benkay exactly. | [00:59] |
benkay | thank you. | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | if you want a dump of the book do | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | $mdepth | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | if you want a dump of the vwap do | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | $vwap | [01:00] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/F8TXg0DP | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | wtf, i got them mixed ? | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | $help | [01:00] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: (help [
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[01:00] |
mircea_popescu | $help mdepth | [01:00] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: Error: There is no command "mdepth". | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | hm | [01:00] |
kakobrekla | its w/o m | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | o ty | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | $depth | [01:00] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/k55tiUtd | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | and if you want details of individual symbols in easier format here, benkay | [01:01] |
mircea_popescu | you do | [01:01] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.dice | [01:01] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00548202 / 0.006225 (503030 shares, 2,757.62 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616219 / 0.0069 (3738644 shares, 23,038.26 BTC) | [01:01] |
mjr_ | ;;gpg eregister JoshRossi C286BB96FE9B6CD3 | [01:02] |
gribble | Request successful for user JoshRossi, hostmask mjr_!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3 | [01:02] |
mjr_ | nice | [01:03] |
mjr_ | so now I'm part of the web of trust? | [01:04] |
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m0mchil | makomk malaimo Mandrius maximian midnightmagic MiningBuddy mircea_popescu miscreanity mjr_ mod6 molec molecular mpexbot | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust mjr_ | [01:04] |
gribble | Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mjr_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mjr_ | [01:04] |
mircea_popescu | not for me :D | [01:04] |
mjr_ | lol | [01:04] |
mjr_ | I meant ability to be trusted not trusted yet | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident joshrossi | [01:05] |
gribble | Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gpg info joshrossi | [01:05] |
gribble | No such user registered. | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | npe. | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gpg info JoshRossi | [01:05] |
gribble | No such user registered. | [01:05] |
mjr_ | ;;eauth JoshRossi | [01:05] |
gribble | Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. | [01:05] |
mjr_ | ok... | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | you need to handle the opt first. | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | i guess | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | btw FabianB_ do you read chinese ? | [01:07] |
FabianB_ | mircea_popescu: not really, just speak very little | [01:07] |
mircea_popescu | a ok | [01:07] |
Bowjob | so is ian bakewell a scam or not | [01:07] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob give it a week or two. | [01:08] |
kakobrekla | ;;eightball ian | [01:08] |
gribble | It is possible. | [01:08] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha | [01:08] |
mircea_popescu | ;;cookie gribble | [01:08] |
gribble | Error: "cookie" is not a valid command. | [01:08] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:08] |
Bowjob | hehe | [01:08] |
Bowjob | the bot | [01:08] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:08] |
jMyles | So - I'm not sure if I'm being too forward by asking this - is there a way to invest in asicminer? | [01:09] |
FabianB_ | mircea_popescu: chinese traders asking you and the faq translater where mpex went? | [01:09] |
jMyles | (and to see what kind of activity is happening?) | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB_ no, just wanted to see about how sucky the chiense version is | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | jMyles you're never too forward by asking. | [01:10] |
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mircea_popescu | there's a btct passthrough and a bitfunder passthrough. | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | their contractual basis is maybe shaky, do your dd | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | to see activity, | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker btct asicminer-pt | [01:10] |
assbot | [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.69 / 0.90312 / 1 (165 shares, 149 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68589 / 1 (1170 shares, 802.5 BTC) | [01:10] |
jMyles | mircea_popescu: but it looks like the passthroughs have only paid two dividends? | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | ukto has yet STILL NOT ADDED BF | [01:10] |
jarpiain | jborkl_ jcpham JimmyHo3 jMyles jurov JWU42 | [01:10] |
jarpiain | jborkl_ jcpham JimmyHo3 jMyles jurov JWU42 | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | jMyles i really haven't been keeping tabs so i dunno | [01:11] |
Ukto | me add what? | [01:11] |
Ukto | to the bot? | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | your feed! yes! | [01:12] |
Bowjob | http://i.imgur.com/MSEOcWe.png | [01:12] |
Ukto | i have websocket | [01:12] |
* | Ukto shrug | [01:12] |
Bowjob | we've been oddly stable for a while now | [01:12] |
Ukto | assbot doesnt support it | [01:12] |
Bowjob | the bids look weak however | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob looks like mpoe lol | [01:12] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto can't you just make a json somewhere ? | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | at least !ticker will work then | [01:12] |
mjr_ | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2c057cc8dff074ee13a20df82b057767f81844e56105610c250b4618 | [01:12] |
gribble | Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans | [01:13] |
Bowjob | this is calm before the storm. come monday theres gonna be a shitstorm | [01:13] |
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mircea_popescu | ya but prolly on the upside. | [01:13] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: yeah, but its being changed due to request | [01:13] |
Ukto | and its low priority | [01:13] |
Ukto | whereas websocket is ready | [01:13] |
Ukto | besides | [01:13] |
Ukto | i am debating not doing get/post anymore | [01:13] |
Ukto | and leaving it purely to websocket | [01:13] |
Ukto | to keep load off the server | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | we're going to end up with a third party interpreter here ? | [01:13] |
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Ukto | get/post is so archaic | [01:14] |
Ukto | websockets are far far superior. lets get with the times :) | [01:14] |
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mircea_popescu | whatever way you do it, it pisses me off when i can't ticker. | [01:15] |
mod6 | getting there! | [01:15] |
mod6 | (15:00) < BitOTTer755> $vwap | [01:15] |
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* | mod6 keeps building | [01:15] |
mjr_ | ident JoshRossi | [01:16] |
* | fishfish is now known as fishfish|AFK | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | lol cool mod6 | [01:16] |
mjr_ | ;;ident JoshRossi | [01:16] |
gribble | Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | also! mod6 : look at FabianB_ commit | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | https://github.com/fawuxi | [01:16] |
mjr_ | ident mjr_ | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | might have stuff there you need for your own botcode | [01:16] |
mjr_ | ;;ident mjr_ | [01:16] |
gribble | Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'mjr_!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is not identified. | [01:16] |
gabridome | !help | [01:18] |
assbot | List of commands: | [01:18] |
FabianB_ | it's still pretty ugly and needs refactoring, but it's there and it works | [01:18] |
assbot | !ticker |
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assbot | !mp |
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mod6 | thx mircea_popescu, his is Ruby but might come in handy... | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | o wow, ruby ? | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB_ aren;'t you concerned by the numerous breaches lately ? | [01:20] |
FabianB_ | mircea_popescu: not at all, all those braches are Rails related | [01:20] |
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mircea_popescu | ah, this is not ror just ruby ? | [01:20] |
FabianB_ | jup | [01:21] |
FabianB_ | never liked ror | [01:21] |
FabianB_ | ror is not ruby | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | kk | [01:21] |
benkay | never liked ruby | [01:21] |
benkay | ; | [01:21] |
benkay | ;) | [01:21] |
FabianB_ | and of course a commandline client doesn't need any web stuff | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB_ the concern is that some unwittign user may be running a web server on his home computer w/o knowing | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | this is common for windows users for instance | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | then he could end up raped unexpectedly. | [01:22] |
mjr_ | rape is rarely expected | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | exactly :D | [01:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.595 = 1.19 BTC [+] | [01:23] |
FabianB_ | mircea_popescu: not through my code, only if my code (or a library i use) is itself insecure or if that user is integrating it into his lame ror | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | kay. | [01:23] |
benkay | i would expect at least one rorbro to do something like that | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | benkay at least it's been publicly mentioned, it's known about etc. | [01:24] |
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mjrIII | ok now i can try to get this WOT thing working | [01:25] |
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FabianB_ | mircea_popescu: actually it started as a more featureful alternative to pympex for me; used it for a while | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | cool | [01:26] |
FabianB_ | i just added the IRC stuff today | [01:26] |
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aethero | !help | [01:29] |
assbot | List of commands: | [01:29] |
assbot | !ticker |
[01:29] |
assbot | !mp |
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aethero | what's the latest on mpex? | [01:35] |
Namworld | DDoS | [01:35] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;gpg eregister Josh_Rossi C286BB96FE9B6CD3 | [01:35] |
gribble | Request successful for user Josh_Rossi, hostmask Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3 | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | aethero https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1605252#msg1605252 is a good point to staert | [01:35] |
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aethero | Expected ETA for the site itself? | [01:36] |
aethero | Going strictly onion? | [01:36] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident Josh_Rossi | [01:38] |
gribble | Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | aethero there are bots trading here. there will be an onion up, but im not sure tor can take the load. | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | there is a 10gb dedicated connection with muchly beefed up setups coming online asap. | [01:39] |
aethero | ever going on clearweb again | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | there have been problems with supplying the hardware and so forth. I think next week is a safe estimate | [01:39] |
Josh_Rossi | nice...arista? | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [01:40] |
Josh_Rossi | we got one arista 10gb | [01:41] |
Josh_Rossi | and i also got to play with a force10 | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | aethero anyway, proving that mpex can work w/o website is an important point here. | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | i want that to sink in well. | [01:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.7 = 5.1 BTC [+] | [01:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 720 @ 0.18196843 = 131.0173 BTC [+] | [01:45] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;gettrust Josh_Rossi | [01:52] |
gribble | Trust relationship from user Josh_Rossi to user Josh_Rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=Josh_Rossi&dest=Josh_Rossi | [01:52] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;gettrust mircea_popescu | [01:53] |
gribble | Trust relationship from user Josh_Rossi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=Josh_Rossi&dest=mircea_popescu | [01:53] |
Josh_Rossi | well looks like i got it working | [01:53] |
Josh_Rossi | but i would like to add an address to it | [01:53] |
FabianB_ | ;;ident Josh_Rossi | [01:53] |
gribble | Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [01:53] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;rate mircea_popescu +3 | [01:55] |
gribble | Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users. | [01:55] |
Josh_Rossi | ah ok | [01:55] |
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mjr_ | ;;eauth Josh_Rossi | [01:55] |
gribble | Request successful for user Josh_Rossi, hostmask mjr_!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3 | [01:55] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;getinfo Josh_Rossi | [01:57] |
gribble | Error: "getinfo" is not a valid command. | [01:57] |
Josh_Rossi | .authenticate | [01:58] |
mircea_popescu | ;;eauth mircea_popescu | [01:59] |
gribble | Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [01:59] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3f37b219dbeef705e0d0715acbc922c60d94b6b639c29a17c94779ac | [02:01] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate Josh_Rossi 1 He's a noob. | [02:02] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Josh_Rossi has been recorded. | [02:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7752 BTC [-] | [02:02] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;ident Josh_Rossi | [02:07] |
gribble | Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is not identified. | [02:07] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [+] | [02:18] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.01001 BTC [-] | [02:21] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [-] | [02:21] |
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mod6 | ok this is getting a bit better... (16:21) <@mod6> http://pastebin.com/C1dT6RrM | [02:21] |
mod6 | (16:21) < BitOTTer569> PasteBin Key: C1dT6RrM | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | haha is that your little ircbot ? | [02:22] |
mod6 | yeah. the old Net::IRC is like uber deprecated | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | supy ? | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | or no cause you were doing perl neh ? | [02:22] |
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mod6 | just changing these scripts to be able to connect to IRC and issue a command, get a response, parse it, then grab the URL or Key parsed, grab the raw data from the paste, and then display. | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | ya but what bot is it ? bitch ? | [02:23] |
mod6 | haha, i rolled my own | [02:23] |
Josh_Rossi | nice mod6 | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | o all the wya ?! | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | wow. well done. | [02:23] |
Josh_Rossi | I am trying to set this up now | [02:24] |
mod6 | well, with this lib: POE::Component::IRC | [02:24] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:24] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [02:24] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;eauth | [02:24] |
mod6 | so that has all of the commands and some subroutines to help with connect and sessions, etc. | [02:24] |
gribble | (eauth |
[02:24] |
mircea_popescu | someone should totally make a lispbot implementation. | [02:24] |
mod6 | thx mircea_popescu, ima keep working on it for the next few days. hopefully get it to a spot that's pretty functional. | [02:25] |
mod6 | ahh lisp | [02:25] |
mod6 | even seen scheme? | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 isn't it funny that as you make progress mpex also adds shit ? | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [02:25] |
mod6 | yeah its good though | [02:26] |
mod6 | :D | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | hehe | [02:26] |
mod6 | ima keep going here. thx guys. | [02:26] |
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Josh_Rossi | awesome | [02:27] |
Josh_Rossi | this is starting to work | [02:27] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:30] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [02:30] |
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the-bucket-shop | !ticker m s.bbet | [02:30] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC) | [02:30] |
the-bucket-shop | !ticker m s.dice | [02:31] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00547927 / 0.006225 (500573 shares, 2,742.78 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616216 / 0.0069 (3735257 shares, 23,017.26 BTC) | [02:31] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:34] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [02:34] |
Josh_Rossi | awesome | [02:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5949999 = 1.19 BTC [-] | [02:35] |
Josh_Rossi | got the mirc script to work | [02:35] |
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mircea_popescu | wd | [02:38] |
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BitHub | whats the price for asicminer today fokes? | [02:38] |
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mircea_popescu | !ticker btct asicminer-pt | [02:39] |
assbot | [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.7 / 0.91596 / 1 (156 shares, 142.9 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC) | [02:39] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:39] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [02:39] |
BitHub | thanks mircea | [02:40] |
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mircea_popescu | !ticker m p750t | [02:41] |
assbot | [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.89918038 / 0.90051586 / 0.90144085 (2375 shares, 2,138.73 BTC), 7D: 0.85433966 / 0.9786482 / 1.12260046 (23750 shares, 23,242.89 BTC), 30D: 0.85433966 / 1.06533167 / 1.53153505 (28750 shares, 30,628.29 BTC) | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | aaa kickass | [02:41] |
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BitHub | !ticker m asicminer | [02:42] |
assbot | You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey. | [02:42] |
BitHub | !ticker m asicminer-pt | [02:42] |
assbot | Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker btct asic | [02:43] |
assbot | The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker btct asicmin | [02:43] |
assbot | You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. | [02:43] |
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mircea_popescu | !ticker btct asicminer-pt | [02:43] |
assbot | [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.7 / 0.91596 / 1 (156 shares, 142.9 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.68597 / 1 (1171 shares, 803.3 BTC) | [02:43] |
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MJR_ | hi | [02:44] |
BitHub | selling my asicminer shares for 1.8 each | [02:44] |
BitHub | i'm out | [02:44] |
MJR_ | ;;ident | [02:45] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [02:45] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:45] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [02:45] |
jcpham | What is asicminer paying per dividend | [02:45] |
mircea_popescu | like 0.019 last one iirc | [02:45] |
Josh_Rossi | hmmm this is weird | [02:46] |
Josh_Rossi | if you look my other nick | [02:47] |
Josh_Rossi | mjr_ | [02:47] |
Josh_Rossi | you can see i have identified as Josh_Rossi | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | Josh_Rossi gribble doens't go by nickserv accounts | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | it just looks at the user. | [02:47] |
Josh_Rossi | ah ok | [02:47] |
Josh_Rossi | so it has to see Josh_Rossi | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [02:48] |
Josh_Rossi | in order to identify me? | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | no | [02:48] |
Josh_Rossi | aha | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | if you identify as Josh_Rossi from any account | [02:48] |
jcpham | Facepalmdeskfloor | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | it will keep track of that name you identified from. | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | so mjr can identify as Josh_Rossi and for gribble mjr will be Josh_Rossi for as long as mjr doesn't part. | [02:48] |
Josh_Rossi | ok | [02:49] |
Josh_Rossi | going to be hard to get an ident script working with my phone | [02:49] |
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Bowjob | ;;eightball ian | [02:50] |
gribble | Obviously. | [02:50] |
Bowjob | hes a scammer | [02:50] |
Bowjob | eight ball says so lol | [02:50] |
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Josh_Rossi | lol | [02:50] |
Josh_Rossi | so basically how it works is that NickServe and gribble BOTH maintain separate identity for a given user | [02:51] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:51] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [02:51] |
mircea_popescu | Josh_Rossi exactly. | [02:51] |
Josh_Rossi | hmmm | [02:51] |
Bowjob | ;;eightball is Ian Bakewell a scammer? | [02:52] |
gribble | _I_ don't know. | [02:52] |
Bowjob | Mhm | [02:52] |
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Bowjob | We will test eightball's honesty | [02:52] |
Bowjob | ;;eightball Did I play with myself lastnight? | [02:53] |
gribble | Naturally. | [02:53] |
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Bowjob | Fuck. He's legit | [02:53] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:53] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [02:53] |
mjr_ | ;;ident | [02:53] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [02:53] |
mjr_ | well that didn't work | [02:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1000 @ 0.18345453 = 183.4545 BTC [+] | [02:54] |
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BitOTTer983 | $vwap | [02:54] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer983: http://pastebin.com/dS1nAB1R | [02:54] |
BitOTTer983 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dS1nAB1R | [02:54] |
mjr_ | how am i supposed to decrypt my OTP from my phone...i mean i could write a program that does it, but it is tough | [02:54] |
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mircea_popescu | mjr_ mod6 is working on stuff like that. | [02:54] |
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mod6 | yeah, i'm re-building all scripts to interact with the bots. | [02:55] |
jborkl_ | !mp http://dpaste.com/#webpg-link | [02:56] |
assbot | Processing. | [02:56] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017761/plain/ | [02:56] |
mod6 | and mainly what i can make work in this one is gonna go into the end thingy, whatever it becomes | [02:56] |
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mjr_ | hmmm but i thought he was doing it for android | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | android is a phone neh ? | [02:57] |
mjr_ | oh yes, of course | [02:57] |
mod6 | lol, doing it for that too, but now that's gonna be all f'd up | [02:57] |
mjr_ | i just meant i have an iphone | [02:57] |
jborkl_ | Ok, I finally figured it out- key managers are conflicting | [02:57] |
mod6 | thanks again guys, just needed to make sure that i could ping mpexbot and get the respone and all | [02:58] |
mjr_ | this is funny though...to me at least | [02:58] |
* | mod6 goes back to it | [02:58] |
mjr_ | ;;ident | [02:58] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [02:58] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [02:58] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [02:58] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl_ not much surprise there. | [02:58] |
jborkl_ | No, it is not- they are a pain in the ass | [02:59] |
mjr_ | ok my iphone is at least jailbroken so let's see if we can get gpg :) | [02:59] |
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jborkl_ | !mp http://dpaste.com/1017771/ | [03:01] |
assbot | Processing. | [03:01] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017772/plain/ | [03:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 316 @ 0.18372792 = 58.058 BTC [+] | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m ^oix | [03:05] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 38.36519878 / 50.18328999 / 50.5301272 (no shares, 16,402.55 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | 50 again huh | [03:05] |
mjr_ | yep, i think that is so far the best leading indicator i've seen | [03:07] |
mjr_ | so, i have gpg on my iphone now | [03:08] |
the-bucket-shop | !mp http://dpaste.com/1017775/ | [03:08] |
assbot | Processing. | [03:08] |
error4733 | TAKE MY MONEY | [03:08] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017776/plain/ | [03:08] |
mjr_ | but i really don't want to go back and forth between a terminal window with a touchscreen and colloquy | [03:08] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [03:13] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [03:13] |
Josh_Rossi | ;;eauth Josh_Rossi | [03:13] |
gribble | Request successful for user Josh_Rossi, hostmask Josh_Rossi!~mjr@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C286BB96FE9B6CD3 | [03:13] |
mod6 | ok sorry guys, but after 10 mins the pastebin expires, gotta re-conn and get a fresh one | [03:14] |
mod6 | im now getting back the raw vwap, just need to make sure that I'm parsing correctly as before... | [03:14] |
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BitOTTer315 | $vwap | [03:15] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer315: http://pastebin.com/ZTNPuLZJ | [03:15] |
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mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.mpoe | [03:18] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067638 / 0.00067638 / 0.00067638 (1 shares, 0.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074892 / 0.00078628 (10680545 shares, 7,998.94 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068474 / 0.00078628 (58685013 shares, 40,184.02 BTC) | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 nothing to be sorry about lol | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, the #bitcoin-assets log for this current month (9 days!) is over 1mb | [03:21] |
the-bucket-shop | !mp http://dpaste.com/1017790/ | [03:21] |
assbot | Processing. | [03:21] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017791/plain/ | [03:21] |
mod6 | mircea_popescu: i just feel bad for the conn/dis-conns | [03:23] |
mod6 | but check it out ;) | [03:23] |
mod6 | http://dpaste.com/1017793/ | [03:23] |
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mod6 | she works | [03:23] |
mircea_popescu | a cool | [03:24] |
mod6 | ok one more quick test, i'll check a different MPSIC | [03:27] |
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BitOTTer509 | $vwap | [03:27] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer509: http://pastebin.com/PXDfa3ar | [03:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+] | [03:28] |
mod6 | ok works pretty decent, a good rough start: http://dpaste.com/1017798/ | [03:28] |
mircea_popescu | i tell you this shit's pretty exciting | [03:28] |
mircea_popescu | challenge brings innovation, as they say | [03:28] |
mircea_popescu | ddos is one of the better things that happened to mpex so far | [03:29] |
mircea_popescu | incredible huh. | [03:29] |
mjr_ | its amazing | [03:30] |
mjr_ | this is the future | [03:30] |
mod6 | =) | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | good designs well administered shall prevail | [03:31] |
mod6 | ok i cleaned that up, now i gotta do one more test then i can check it into github for yall | [03:32] |
Bowjob | What do you guys think of google glasses | [03:32] |
mod6 | (just vwap is finished for now, will finish others over next few days...) | [03:32] |
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BitOTTer578 | $vwap | [03:33] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer578: http://pastebin.com/xBthcKyb | [03:33] |
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mjr_ | this kinda reminds me of an xkcd... http://xkcd.com/504/ | [03:33] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [03:34] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.54224, Best ask: 47.89850, Bid-ask spread: 0.35626, Last trade: 47.89858, 24 hour volume: 46494.02049522, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.89860, 24 hour vwap: 45.71103 | [03:34] |
Bowjob | ... | [03:35] |
Bowjob | wtf is this | [03:35] |
Bowjob | Weekend rally | [03:35] |
Bowjob | What vodoo is this | [03:35] |
mjr_ | http://xkcd.com/1181/ or this one LOL | [03:35] |
mjr_ | i know, i was hoping for a dip | [03:35] |
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mircea_popescu | where's the coinlab pr spam with "mpex indomitable, btc surges" | [03:38] |
mod6 | ok, the vwap one is finished (for the moment) and checked in: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl/blob/master/bitotter_vwap.pl | [03:41] |
mjr_ | hmmm | [03:41] |
mod6 | anyway, im ciked that was so simple. can't do more must find a cold pizza to eat somewherez! | [03:41] |
mjr_ | just realized that now mpex is only for mpex registered people... | [03:41] |
benkay | ouch | [03:41] |
benkay | dat fee | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | mjr_ that was always the case ?! | [03:42] |
mjr_ | from market data perspective i mean | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [03:42] |
mjr_ | do the other commands not come encrypted? | [03:42] |
mjr_ | hold on i am gonna try it out | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | nope | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | plaintext | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | $depth | [03:42] |
mjr_ | oh ok cool | [03:42] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/RCZCr6Uk | [03:42] |
benkay | !help | [03:44] |
assbot | List of commands: | [03:44] |
assbot | !ticker |
[03:44] |
assbot | !mp |
[03:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00074997 = 1.4999 BTC [+] | [03:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27999 @ 0.00074998 = 20.9987 BTC [+] | [03:44] |
benkay | mircea_popescu: what commands are available for the mpexbot? | [03:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00074999 = 29.9996 BTC [+] | [03:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19317 @ 0.00075 = 14.4878 BTC [+] | [03:44] |
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mircea_popescu | benkay $post $depth $vwap | [03:45] |
benkay | thank you. | [03:45] |
mjr_ | ah very cool | [03:45] |
benkay | $vwap | [03:45] |
mpexbot | benkay: http://pastebin.com/xaBQwgvC | [03:45] |
benkay | what does vwap stand for? | [03:45] |
mircea_popescu | volume weighted average price | [03:45] |
mjr_ | volume weighted average price | [03:45] |
benkay | volume weighted average.. | [03:45] |
benkay | price! | [03:45] |
mircea_popescu | ha! | [03:45] |
benkay | thanks. | [03:45] |
mircea_popescu | you can also inspect these one at a time with assbot's !ticker | [03:46] |
mjr_ | lol, was just thinking about back in the days when we were discussing mpex fee being around $450 | [03:46] |
mjr_ | and just realized that it will now be around $1500 | [03:47] |
benkay | jeeze mp | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | i always said it's only going up. | [03:47] |
mjr_ | hyperinflation | [03:47] |
mjr_ | in the usd | [03:47] |
mjr_ | and that is true | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | the usual consumerist "o, i'll just wait" is suicide here. | [03:47] |
mjr_ | you did say that | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | the longer one waits the more painful it gets. | [03:47] |
mjr_ | hmmm that is a good point | [03:47] |
Bowjob | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149892.0 | [03:48] |
mjr_ | this is a whole new world | [03:48] |
Bowjob | I nominate pirateat40 for the documentary | [03:48] |
mjr_ | typically...if you wait, prices usually fall | [03:48] |
mjr_ | on most consumable things | [03:48] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [03:49] |
mjr_ | but in a bitcoin economy, the opposite may be true until you can finally do most of your transactions in bitcoin | [03:49] |
benkay | assets denominated in btc just keep increasing in price | [03:49] |
mjr_ | in which case you would still be paying the same 30 btc you would have before | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | back in april 2012 when it was introduced fee was like, 100 bux irrc | [03:49] |
the-bucket-shop | new metric: 1 seat mpex vs. 1 seat nyse | [03:49] |
the-bucket-shop | wait for parity | [03:49] |
mjr_ | lol great idea | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | totally. | [03:50] |
mjr_ | oh...i emailed freenode and asked if they would accept bitcoin donations | [03:50] |
mjr_ | they only take credit card and paypal right now | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [03:50] |
mjr_ | and i mean, it is pretty much exactly what they believe in as far as distributed systems and freedom | [03:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+] | [03:51] |
mircea_popescu | ahaha somebody just pm'd me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773754#msg773754 | [03:51] |
benkay | where did homegirl running MPOE-PR pick up all dat econ? | [03:52] |
mircea_popescu | benkay she is ocassionally allowed a quiet seat at the board meetings. | [03:52] |
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the-bucket-shop | !mp http://pastebin.com/TMmbMjc3 | [03:54] |
assbot | Please use http://dpaste.com/ | [03:54] |
the-bucket-shop | !mp http://dpaste.com/1017811/ | [03:55] |
assbot | Processing. | [03:55] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1017812/plain/ | [03:55] |
benkay | mircea_popescu: preferred capitalization MPEx or MPEX? | [03:56] |
mircea_popescu | it's always been MPEx | [03:56] |
benkay | thanks. | [03:56] |
Bowjob | money printing exchange | [03:56] |
Bowjob | everyone makes money | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | haha totally. | [03:57] |
Bowjob | does it it suck for people with bad calls and puts | [03:57] |
benkay | !post | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | multi purpose excalibur | [03:57] |
benkay | $post | [03:57] |
the-bucket-shop | I got a STAT from irc. officially idiot proof. | [03:57] |
mpexbot | benkay: (post
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[03:57] |
Bowjob | i remember a 500 BTC squeezed out of a poor speculator | [03:57] |
Bowjob | from the 26 to 20 dollar flash crash | [03:57] |
Bowjob | hilarious | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob end of jan somebody got wiped for like 5k actually | [03:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5949999 BTC [-] | [03:58] |
Bowjob | yikes | [03:58] |
Bowjob | Buy and hold, doesnt cost a dime | [03:58] |
Bowjob | and it works so far | [03:58] |
mircea_popescu | i think the record is that one time when s.dice got sold to like 0.0008 | [03:58] |
Bowjob | oh yeah | [03:58] |
Bowjob | i remember that | [03:58] |
Bowjob | lol | [03:58] |
Bowjob | fat finger | [03:58] |
mircea_popescu | we mostly came to the conclusion it must have been a msitake | [03:58] |
Bowjob | that was an 80k USD mistake | [03:58] |
Bowjob | was it | [03:58] |
benkay | mircea_popescu: i'm aware of the email and irc channels for posting trades to MPEx, are there others I'm not aware of? | [03:58] |
mircea_popescu | was pretty huge. | [03:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.595 BTC [+] | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | benkay email is not atm such a channel. | [03:59] |
Bowjob | and of course this being the wild wild west of finance | [03:59] |
Bowjob | they cant.. they cant reverse it | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | i had mentioned that if the worst comes to worst we will take it to email, | [03:59] |
Bowjob | fat finger | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | but it hasn't come to that. | [03:59] |
benkay | thanks for the clarification. is irc then the only channel over which you're accepting transactions? | [03:59] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [03:59] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.95900, Best ask: 47.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29100, Last trade: 47.33203, 24 hour volume: 47013.01597736, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.89860, 24 hour vwap: 45.74036 | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | other than that there are private proxies available atm, and the public irc bots. | [03:59] |
Bowjob | "I wish I had bought some when they were cheap :(" - On the current events forums of gamefaqs | [04:01] |
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benkay | is one more robust than the other? do you prefer to receive over irc? | [04:01] |
Bowjob | I was telling them about BTC since it was 13 dollars.. | [04:01] |
mircea_popescu | i woulsd guess irc is the most robust | [04:01] |
mircea_popescu | this is a difficult question tho, robust by what standard ? | [04:02] |
mircea_popescu | anything manmade is in principle doomed. | [04:02] |
benkay | fuck iono | [04:02] |
benkay | some arbitrary heuristic? | [04:02] |
benkay | your team's hunches about these things? | [04:03] |
mircea_popescu | irc is robust as long as freenode stays online. | [04:03] |
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benkay | thanks again. | [04:04] |
mircea_popescu | don't mention it. | [04:04] |
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mjr_ | yeah i think this is a great system | [04:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0056 = 0.0112 BTC [-] | [04:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.24110904 = 241.109 BTC | [04:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21525757 = 215.2576 BTC | [04:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.19052144 = 190.5214 BTC [-] | [04:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16701309 = 167.0131 BTC [-] | [04:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14485191 = 144.8519 BTC [-] | [04:11] |
mjr_ | hmmm | [04:14] |
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mjr_ | i managed to import your pub key mircea | [04:14] |
mjr_ | still getting used to gpg | [04:14] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] | [04:17] |
mjr_ | B| | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [04:21] |
mircea_popescu | aand we're officially over 200k option contracts traded this month. | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | new record. | [04:22] |
mjr_ | does anyone know how to type the double barred B | [04:23] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.33318 = 4.9977 BTC [+] | [04:25] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33317 = 1.3327 BTC [-] | [04:26] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 23 @ 0.21 = 4.83 BTC [+] | [04:27] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.215 = 0.43 BTC [+] | [04:27] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.22 = 0.66 BTC [+] | [04:28] |
Bowjob | http://i.imgur.com/j8L5hhZ.jpg | [04:32] |
Bowjob | Do want | [04:32] |
kakobrekla | infinity sign is kinda unapropriate | [04:33] |
kakobrekla | this not being fiat. | [04:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.23978602 = 239.786 BTC [-] | [04:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21402821 = 214.0282 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.1893874 = 189.3874 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16597581 = 165.9758 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14391278 = 143.9128 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
the-bucket-shop | that seem like a big deal to anyone? | [04:35] |
MadSweeney | mpex being dos'd can be ironically considered a milestone ;-) | [04:36] |
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mircea_popescu | so basically someone thinks btc will stay over 50ish | [04:41] |
mircea_popescu | and has a coupla k's to back that thinking | [04:41] |
jcpham | Whhoosh | [04:45] |
pigeons | ;;ticker | [04:48] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.53000, Best ask: 47.54224, Bid-ask spread: 0.01224, Last trade: 47.53000, 24 hour volume: 48358.44194382, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 45.90546 | [04:48] |
Bowjob | ;;eightball Will BTC rise higher this week? | [04:51] |
gribble | The answer is a resounding no. | [04:51] |
Bowjob | :/ | [04:51] |
Bowjob | Sell sell sell! | [04:51] |
Bowjob | Someone offered me 112 BTC for my Avalon | [04:53] |
Bowjob | MHmm | [04:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.23956955 = 239.5696 BTC [-] | [04:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21382268 = 213.8227 BTC [-] | [04:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.1891934 = 189.1934 BTC [-] | [04:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16579394 = 165.7939 BTC [-] | [04:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14374371 = 143.7437 BTC [-] | [04:53] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess it ain't gribble shorting them | [04:54] |
jcpham | jeebus | [04:54] |
mircea_popescu | MadSweeney indeed. | [04:54] |
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Bowjob | MadSweeny do people use BTC in the philippines? | [04:55] |
MadSweeney | Bowjob, yes | [04:55] |
Bowjob | id imagine people earn lik 1.5 BTC for 1 month | [04:55] |
Bowjob | there | [04:55] |
MadSweeney | that's too low | [04:55] |
kakobrekla | doing what? | [04:56] |
Bowjob | whats the average salary there | [04:56] |
Bowjob | k, maybe 4 BTC im guessing | [04:56] |
Bowjob | just a guess | [04:56] |
Bowjob | lol | [04:56] |
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kakobrekla | https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6988024064/h23C3D98F/ | [05:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.2390698 = 239.0698 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21335791 = 213.3579 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.18876427 = 188.7643 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16540104 = 165.401 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.1433876 = 143.3876 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
kakobrekla | hmmm | [05:01] |
pizzaman1337 | that's a lot of BTC | [05:01] |
pizzaman1337 | maybe they know something we don't... | [05:01] |
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Bowjob | I havent really paid attention..what does it mean | [05:01] |
Bowjob | those btcs | [05:01] |
mjr_ | whats the oix at? | [05:02] |
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kakobrekla | those are put options Bowjob | [05:02] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m ^oix | [05:02] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 40.68083871 / 49.87693675 / 50.5301272 (no shares, 17,066.74 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [05:02] |
mircea_popescu | 50ish | [05:03] |
mjr_ | cool thats what i was figuring | [05:03] |
mjr_ | lol i just realized that i had kleopatra installed already and i was doing everything from the command line | [05:03] |
mjr_ | yeah i figured someone was hedging something with those | [05:04] |
benkay | all the way down to 47... | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | if coinlab etc had a clue they could actually insure their coins | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | so they could deliver to customers rather than cancel orders | [05:05] |
Bowjob | put options.. meaning they expect btc prices to go down.. to 47? | [05:05] |
benkay | past. | [05:05] |
mjr_ | well | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob nah. these were sold not bought | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | person is basically saying "btc will stay over 50 the entire month, and maybe even over 55" | [05:06] |
benkay | purchaser? | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | the bot bought. | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | the customer sold. | [05:06] |
Bowjob | so it's a "call" then | [05:06] |
Bowjob | ? | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | you can tell cause the bids were taken out not the asks | [05:06] |
mjr_ | no selling a put = buying a call | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | no, it's a put. | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [05:06] |
mjr_ | if you are "short" a put | [05:06] |
mjr_ | it is a bullish move | [05:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59499999 BTC [-] | [05:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.595 = 5.355 BTC [+] | [05:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.599 = 1.198 BTC [+] | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | thats true. | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | just the net gain as a function of btc price changes | [05:07] |
mjr_ | so if you think something is going up you can sell puts and collect premiums and buy calls as well | [05:07] |
Bowjob | nice recovery on havelock | [05:07] |
Bowjob | i sold at 0.75, lets see what happens | [05:07] |
mjr_ | some people sell puts in order to buy calls (lowers their cost) | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, that actually may work | [05:08] |
Bowjob | They should have taught me this in hs | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob absolutely. | [05:08] |
Bowjob | but if they taught me about this in hs, there wont be time for shakespear | [05:09] |
mjr_ | shit they should teach people what a debit and a credit is | [05:09] |
Bowjob | yeah ^ | [05:09] |
mjr_ | i was actually thinking about trying to create a web based class | [05:09] |
mjr_ | like kahn academy or something about finance | [05:09] |
Bowjob | thankfully, unlike most of my 20 year old contemporaries, I had this fine idea of saving more than i've been spending | [05:09] |
benkay | fuck hs | [05:09] |
mjr_ | well... | [05:09] |
mjr_ | that is a smart idea | [05:10] |
benkay | the whole education stack needs to be online | [05:10] |
Bowjob | and i put it in bitcoins | [05:10] |
mjr_ | but not when you have rampant inflation | [05:10] |
Bowjob | before they blew up from 13 dollars | [05:10] |
Bowjob | lol | [05:10] |
mjr_ | so in your case smart | [05:10] |
Bowjob | i wish i put more | [05:10] |
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Bowjob | oh well | [05:10] |
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benkay | meh | [05:10] |
Bowjob | and i did put in what i can lose and just write off | [05:10] |
benkay | don't fixate on short term | [05:10] |
BitHub | selling asicminer shares 1.8 each get at me | [05:10] |
benkay | you're only 20 | [05:10] |
benkay | do you want to do the trading thing? | [05:11] |
mjr_ | mircea_popescu: what is the capital requirement for someone to sell the amount of puts we just saw | [05:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84999 BTC [+] | [05:11] |
Bowjob | mhm, lets just say i'm "interested" not sure yet | [05:11] |
Bowjob | i'm an owl for now. just observing | [05:11] |
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BitOTTer906 | $depth | [05:11] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer906: http://pastebin.com/Hhw3k9Bi | [05:12] |
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mircea_popescu | mjr_ probably about .5 btc per contract | [05:12] |
benkay | what kind of work do you do? | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | something like 2500 per batch | [05:12] |
mod6 | sorry about the in and out, but it works better now, does both depth and vwap -- its all in one code file now too. | [05:13] |
mod6 | http://dpaste.com/1017874/ | [05:13] |
mod6 | depth output successful | [05:13] |
kakobrekla | is that in and out going to be a casual thing ? | [05:13] |
mod6 | na, i need to figure out how to msg the bot directly :/ | [05:13] |
kakobrekla | /msg |
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mod6 | heh, this doesn't work quite like that | [05:14] |
kakobrekla | ok | [05:14] |
mircea_popescu | whtats the big deal, noobs join/part all da time | [05:14] |
kakobrekla | ya but if we have 10 people using the script and all joining and parting | [05:15] |
kakobrekla | its meh | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | a that'd be insane | [05:15] |
mircea_popescu | im sure finished version won't be doing thatl ol | [05:15] |
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mjr_ | ;;calc 239+213+188+165+143 | [05:16] |
gribble | 948 | [05:16] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;ticker | [05:16] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.52311, Best ask: 47.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37689, Last trade: 47.92886, 24 hour volume: 49410.60996836, 24 hour low: 43.41100, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 45.95456 | [05:16] |
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Chaang-Noi | oh btc... are we going to 100? | [05:16] |
mircea_popescu | 55 seems likely. | [05:16] |
Chaang-Noi | yea 55 berfore 100 :) | [05:17] |
mjr_ | so, that guy just collected 948 bitcoins | [05:17] |
kakobrekla | who? | [05:17] |
mjr_ | whoever sold those puts | [05:17] |
mjr_ | the bot bought them | [05:17] |
kakobrekla | a | [05:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+] | [05:18] |
kakobrekla | there were two bursts | [05:18] |
mjr_ | what's the equation for collateral? | [05:18] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 48 | [05:18] |
gribble | There are currently 3929.1374 bitcoins offered at or under 48.0 USD, worth 188482.186888 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds | [05:18] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 50 | [05:18] |
gribble | There are currently 33194.542 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 1619455.56147 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.2957 seconds | [05:18] |
Chaang-Noi | it si trhe weekend and we are trucking on up.... crazy | [05:18] |
mjr_ | i know | [05:18] |
mjr_ | s.dice is back up too | [05:19] |
mjr_ | mpoe is up | [05:19] |
Chaang-Noi | o kinda wan t to just walk away from btc land for a month come back and see what is going on... | [05:19] |
Chaang-Noi | litecoin is near 25 cents | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | ya ltc is crazy lol | [05:19] |
mjr_ | i am actually trying to mine litecoin | [05:19] |
mjr_ | not because i particularly like them | [05:19] |
mjr_ | but because i can send them to btc-e | [05:20] |
Chaang-Noi | many many gpu miners will mine and support ltc now asics | [05:20] |
Chaang-Noi | make the network stronger:) | [05:20] |
dub | does cpu mining still work for ltc? | [05:20] |
benkay | hahaha best | [05:20] |
mjr_ | lol it hasn't worked for me | [05:20] |
Bowjob | Stupid move on my part, I sold 10k LTC | [05:20] |
Chaang-Noi | it works but like cpu mining in btc dont do it:) | [05:20] |
Bowjob | maybe I should buy back | [05:20] |
mjr_ | well...if you move them to btc-e | [05:20] |
mjr_ | you can get access to better prices | [05:21] |
mjr_ | i just don't like the other funding options | [05:21] |
mjr_ | to clarify: i meant you could end up with more bitcoins | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550T] 1000 @ 0.23838313 = 238.3831 BTC [-] | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P530T] 1000 @ 0.21271752 = 212.7175 BTC [-] | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1000 @ 0.18817119 = 188.1712 BTC [-] | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 1000 @ 0.16485623 = 164.8562 BTC [-] | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.14289205 = 142.8921 BTC [-] | [05:21] |
Bowjob | holy shi | [05:21] |
Bowjob | t | [05:21] |
mjr_ | ;;calc 239+213+188+165+143 | [05:21] |
gribble | 948 | [05:21] |
benkay | ;;calc 948*47.8 | [05:22] |
gribble | 45314.4 | [05:22] |
mjr_ | almost 2k bitcoins | [05:22] |
pizzaman1337 | every time the bot puts up more blocks they're taken out | [05:22] |
mircea_popescu | ddos | [05:22] |
mircea_popescu | v2.0 | [05:22] |
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mjr_ | mircea_popescu: i have to imagine that your bot buys them as part of a hedging strategy | [05:23] |
Namworld | Who's selling that amount of puts... | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | mpoe bot is just marketmaking | [05:23] |
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mod6 | sorry guys, just a few more tests.. | [05:24] |
mjr_ | no worries...to be honest, i think you can just turn off showing joins and parts | [05:25] |
mjr_ | i know you can in colloquy, but not sure about MIRC | [05:25] |
kakobrekla | but thats like turning off 1 satoshi txes | [05:25] |
kakobrekla | u dont do dat. | [05:26] |
mjr_ | no i didn't mean you | [05:26] |
pizzaman1337 | in order for that person to "cash out" they need to buy puts back, right? | [05:26] |
mjr_ | i meant you can send them, but i can not display them | [05:26] |
mjr_ | no | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | pizzaman1337 yes, or they autoexercise at month end | [05:26] |
mjr_ | yes true | [05:26] |
pizzaman1337 | and what exactly happens when they autoexercise? | [05:26] |
mjr_ | do they always autoexercise? | [05:27] |
mjr_ | thought they would only do that if they are in the money | [05:27] |
mjr_ | they probably will just expire worthless | [05:27] |
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BitOTTer86 | $vwap | [05:27] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer86: http://pastebin.com/KnN9A22z | [05:27] |
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benkay | /msg mirceau_popescu | [05:27] |
benkay | wtb | [05:27] |
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pizzaman1337 | but if they expire worthless, than means they made pure profit because they don't have to buy back worthless options? | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | mjr_ well, if they're not in the money they just dissapear | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | pizzaman1337 yes | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | if btc goes to like 55 and stays htere, all the btc he got selling he keeps | [05:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+] | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | if btc goes to 40, he's on the hook for the difference | [05:28] |
pizzaman1337 | what if the diff is greater than the amount of money he has? | [05:29] |
mjr_ | you technically expose yourself to unlimited liability when you write options (at least calls) | [05:29] |
mjr_ | but usually you have to have something to back against the most likely scenario | [05:30] |
mjr_ | thats why i was wondering the specific collateral requirements | [05:31] |
Namworld | With a call, you need to put up 1 BTC collateral so it's always 100% covered | [05:31] |
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mjr_ | but for puts | [05:32] |
mjr_ | it varies doesn't it? | [05:32] |
Namworld | For calls, their value tends toward 1. For puts tho, their value tends toward the infinite. | [05:32] |
mjr_ | hmmm yes when writing them | [05:33] |
Namworld | For example, if price becomes 1/1000 of the put's strike, the put would be worth 1000 BTC | [05:33] |
Namworld | If it goes to a lower fraction, even more. | [05:33] |
mjr_ | i know | [05:33] |
mjr_ | my point is that since you COULD be on the hook for millions of bitcoins | [05:33] |
benkay | at most 21 | [05:33] |
mjr_ | how many are required | [05:33] |
Namworld | They're not fully covered. It would require infinite BTC. | [05:34] |
mjr_ | yes | [05:34] |
mjr_ | but what is the capital requirement | [05:34] |
mircea_popescu | pizzaman1337 it can't be, cause he deposits collateral | [05:34] |
Namworld | It varies depending on strike and current rate/BTC | [05:34] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld they are fully covered, since you do put up enough btc to cover for the put in usd atthe time you write it | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | you put up a little more, which pays for insurance. | [05:35] |
mjr_ | just for example...let's say the vwap hits $100 | [05:36] |
mjr_ | and you sold puts at $50 | [05:36] |
mjr_ | wait reverse that lol | [05:36] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;48.5 | [05:36] |
gribble | Error: "48.5" is not a valid command. | [05:36] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 48.5 | [05:37] |
gribble | There are currently 17873.054 bitcoins offered at or under 48.5 USD, worth 863731.319966 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.7354 seconds | [05:37] |
Chaang-Noi | massive wall up | [05:37] |
kakobrekla | maybe from the sam guy who sold the puts | [05:37] |
kakobrekla | now to be removed | [05:37] |
kakobrekla | konspiraci | [05:37] |
pizzaman1337 | mircea_popescu: I think I understand it all, thanks. I'll have to give it a shot sometime. | [05:38] |
mjr_ | so anyway, let's say the vwap is 50 and you sell puts at 50, the price drops to 25 | [05:38] |
pizzaman1337 | kakobrekla: but wouldln't that person want the price to increase? | [05:38] |
kakobrekla | yes pizzaman1337, 04:37.38 ( kakobrekla ) now to be removed | [05:38] |
kakobrekla | the ask wall. | [05:38] |
pizzaman1337 | ah | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | konspiraci! | [05:38] |
kakobrekla | http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png | [05:38] |
mjr_ | each contract would be liable for 2 bitcoins right? | [05:39] |
Namworld | hmm, 1 BTC actually | [05:40] |
mircea_popescu | no ? | [05:40] |
Namworld | AActually in my example earlier, I think it should have been 999 BTC | [05:40] |
Namworld | 1/(x-1) | [05:41] |
Namworld | you get your fraction with x and remove 1 to that. | [05:41] |
Namworld | Since at strike value, the put has 0 value. | [05:41] |
mjr_ | yeah | [05:42] |
mjr_ | my point is just this...if you sold the put, and the price goes up 10x | [05:42] |
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Namworld | put is worth 0 so 0 collateral is eaten. | [05:43] |
mjr_ | yes | [05:43] |
mjr_ | but if it drops to 0 | [05:43] |
Namworld | You have infinity BTC value | [05:44] |
mjr_ | i think i see what mircea was saying | [05:44] |
Namworld | So you must pay an infinity of worthless BTC... | [05:44] |
jborkl | you can only write covered options, no naked | [05:44] |
mjr_ | yes exactly | [05:44] |
pizzaman1337 | "You don't hold enough assets to trade even one single unit of that MPSIC. Sad, sad, sad." < lulz | [05:44] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [05:44] |
mircea_popescu | fortunately because btc is small and fiart is large it is kinda trivial for me to insure against that | [05:45] |
mjr_ | yes | [05:45] |
mircea_popescu | so if btc goes to zero outstanding puts just get setrtled in fiat | [05:45] |
mircea_popescu | and that's that. | [05:45] |
mjr_ | yeah | [05:45] |
mircea_popescu | anyway if btc is zero nobody would want to be settled in btc | [05:45] |
Namworld | except you pay infinity x 0 USD per BTC... | [05:46] |
mjr_ | i am going to do some exploring on a pairs strategy | [05:46] |
Namworld | if the price is 0.01 and strike is 1, you pay 99 BTC at 0.01 cent each... | [05:46] |
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Namworld | The lower the price goes, the more you owe. But the less the BTC costs to cover those larger BTC amounts. | [05:47] |
mircea_popescu | basically a p500 can never cost more than 50 bucks | [05:48] |
mircea_popescu | whatever that comes to | [05:48] |
mjr_ | although that is true... | [05:49] |
mjr_ | technically if you need btc in order to unwind your position | [05:49] |
mjr_ | and have to buy it on the open market | [05:49] |
mjr_ | someone would have to sell it | [05:50] |
mjr_ | and if you are obligated to buy a lot | [05:50] |
mircea_popescu | price goes up and put is no longer under water | [05:50] |
mjr_ | you could be pushing the price up | [05:50] |
mircea_popescu | it's a self limiting issue | [05:50] |
mjr_ | yep | [05:50] |
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bgupta | !help | [05:51] |
assbot | List of commands: | [05:51] |
assbot | !ticker |
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assbot | !mp |
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mjr_ | i was going to say that the other possibility is that you can cover the position very easily with another option | [05:52] |
mjr_ | if you sell one call for every put | [05:52] |
mjr_ | i meant buy a call for each put sold | [05:53] |
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BitOTTer501 | $depth | [05:54] |
mpexbot | BitOTTer501: http://pastebin.com/gV101v9A | [05:54] |
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mod6 | hmm, ok well anyway, it works, kinda. | [05:55] |
mod6 | needs more work, but gotta run for now lol | [05:55] |
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mjr_ | i was just looking at the last one, really great job mod6 | [05:58] |
bgupta | Hey is it ontopic to discuss pricing of bitcoin denominates securities in this channel? | [05:59] |
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bgupta | mostly wondering about ASICMINER share and their passthrough derivates. | [05:59] |
mjr_ | lol its all we talk about really | [06:00] |
bgupta | excellent!! | [06:01] |
dub | that and porn | [06:01] |
mod6 | wow, thx mjr_ :} | [06:01] |
mjr_ | bitcoin is finance porn | [06:01] |
benkay | bitcoin is disruptive tech porn | [06:01] |
mjr_ | mod6: no prob, it is really really cool | [06:01] |
mod6 | so, I cleaned up the dir a bit on github, got rid of bitotter_vwap.pl and bitotter_depth.pl and its merged into this now: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl/blob/master/bitotter_market_data.pl | [06:01] |
bgupta | totally | [06:01] |
benkay | but yes, that too | [06:02] |
mod6 | right on heheh. its awesome just to see it work, kinda lol | [06:02] |
mjr_ | whats interesting is that we are sending our GET requests via irc | [06:03] |
mjr_ | and retrieving a dynamic web page at a different address | [06:03] |
mjr_ | i think that is really cool | [06:03] |
mod6 | oh, so the bummer so far is... i maybe shouldn't have done a commit in there and had left those files to be still able to interface with mpex or a proxy in a way thats outward facing... if that ever happens again | [06:03] |
mod6 | cause with that, it was still tor capable | [06:03] |
mod6 | so i'll probably just re-introduce those files if/when that happens so tor may be utililzed | [06:04] |
bgupta | so back when btw rallied from zero to about 10 it caught my attention… and I made a decision to invest in gnu mining gear. by the time I got my gear up and running it had spiked up to to 30+ and then crashed… I ran my rigs at a loss for almost a year, but when the algorithm changed, I decided that investing the wrk to reprogram them was a loser and shut it all down.. I managed to hang onto a minuscule 500 b | [06:04] |
bgupta | though.. | [06:04] |
mjr_ | i kinda thought that maybe you could host the website on tor with no order functionality | [06:04] |
mod6 | anyway, just thought yall should know what was happening. | [06:05] |
bgupta | held it fallow for the past year or so… but the recent spike in price got me wondering if spinning up made sense (I decided no since the a sic stuff is imminent) | [06:05] |
mod6 | mjr_: that is pretty neat-o huh :) | [06:05] |
mjr_ | well | [06:05] |
mjr_ | do you get cheap electricity bgupta? | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 tor is coming i think. | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | bgupta btw = btc, gnu = gpu ? | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | and when did the algo change ?! | [06:06] |
mjr_ | mircea_popescu: also i can host a mirror if you like...it will be pretty tough for them to take out a GAE instance | [06:06] |
mod6 | ok, i'll reintroduce those files with needed changes as that approches. that'll be awesome | [06:06] |
bgupta | In the past no, unfortunately…. now… I have a partner willing to pay electricity if I provide hardware and we split proceeds 50/50.. I think it's a loser for him though.. mircea_popescu yes sorry not reading what I am typing.. | [06:07] |
mircea_popescu | mjr_ they already have, three times. and amazon x2 | [06:07] |
mod6 | i have basically only accessed mpex over tor since you moved it all over to that early last year | [06:07] |
mod6 | its always been fast for me | [06:07] |
mircea_popescu | if by hardware you mean gpus bgupta it's a loser for him. and prolly for you too. | [06:08] |
mjr_ | well...not really for him, if he alrady has the hardware | [06:08] |
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bgupta | well… they are paid for… so not really | [06:08] |
mjr_ | he will just get to keep half of the small number of bitcoins he gets | [06:08] |
bgupta | the loss will be a day of my time figuring out how to setup the softare | [06:09] |
mod6 | any amt of satoshi will be signifigant eventually | [06:09] |
mjr_ | i thought you already had it running? | [06:09] |
mjr_ | i am debating installing visual studio 2012 on my home computer | [06:10] |
bgupta | I had it running was paying way to much for hosting in a real datacenter.. so shut it down last april when they changed the algorithm,, | [06:10] |
mjr_ | what do you mean changed the algorithm? | [06:10] |
mjr_ | if you mean when the pay rate halved | [06:10] |
bgupta | mmm… existing miners had to upgrade the software.. | [06:10] |
bgupta | no | [06:10] |
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bgupta | let me see if i can find the deets | [06:11] |
mjr_ | upgrading version? | [06:11] |
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bgupta | yeah bitcoind changed… and all pools and miners had to upgrade | [06:12] |
Chaang-Noi | network is mining blocks like crazy | [06:12] |
bgupta | my pool at the time didn't upgrade and shutdown.. and since I was losing close to 50% at the time (due to the ridiculously low price of btw at the time) I followed them | [06:13] |
the-bucket-shop | !ticker m.dice | [06:13] |
assbot | Have you got any tobacco? | [06:13] |
the-bucket-shop | !ticker s m.dice | [06:13] |
assbot | You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. | [06:13] |
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bgupta | I probably mined close to 10k coins while I had my rigs up.. but only managed to walk away with 500 btw after all was said and done.. | [06:13] |
the-bucket-shop | !ticker m s.dice | [06:13] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00558182 / 0.006225 (392080 shares, 2,188.52 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616213 / 0.0069 (3732757 shares, 23,001.76 BTC) | [06:13] |
bgupta | err btc not btw | [06:14] |
bgupta | don'w know why I keep doing the same type | [06:14] |
bgupta | typo | [06:14] |
Bowjob | mhm. what will happen to SR when mt gox stops their service to NA | [06:14] |
bgupta | SR? | [06:14] |
bgupta | Guessing NA is north america? | [06:14] |
Namworld | Anywaym I'm out. Goodbye | [06:15] |
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bgupta | goodnight | [06:15] |
bgupta | Bowjob ^^ | [06:15] |
bgupta | ooooo | [06:16] |
Bowjob | yea | [06:16] |
bgupta | SR is satoshi dice? | [06:16] |
pizzaman1337 | SR is silk road, SD is satoshi dice | [06:16] |
bgupta | ahh... | [06:16] |
Chaang-Noi | anyone here selling off some of their btc and buying something crazy? or are we all just holing untill $1000 plus? | [06:16] |
Bowjob | bought ASICs | [06:16] |
dub | Chaang-Noi: im thinking about turnign some asicminer into a truck | [06:17] |
bgupta | I am willing to sell my premium domain for 4000 btc.. | [06:17] |
Bowjob | it better start with mt. and and with gox | [06:17] |
Bowjob | if its that much | [06:17] |
dub | whats the domain | [06:17] |
bgupta | nah just vj.com | [06:17] |
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Chaang-Noi | dub i did that already, traded my car in and got a truck | [06:17] |
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bgupta | If it was USD I'd want a bit more, but it is a digital only transaction, so I'm willing to do it for a little less | [06:18] |
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bgupta | unfortunately the folks that would be interested don't deal in btc | [06:19] |
bgupta | Quick question in the flow… Are BitFunder, btct.co and apex the main securities exchanges ATM? | [06:19] |
Chaang-Noi | how much did you buy that site for? | [06:19] |
bgupta | $0… registered it before they charged for registering domains.. | [06:19] |
Chaang-Noi | cool, why not get more then? | [06:20] |
bgupta | been paying whatever a year for the standard domain registration.. | [06:20] |
Chaang-Noi | im sure its a good name but you are going to have to hit the right people to get that much out of it | [06:21] |
Chaang-Noi | i guess it is reasonable though | [06:21] |
bgupta | well I had it appraised for $250,000.. but to sell it, i'd need to put a lot of time into adverttising, and likely need to retain a domain broker.. and then take a huge hit on taxes.. | [06:21] |
bgupta | realistically if I tried I could probably pocket close to $200,000 | [06:21] |
bgupta | It's the most valuable thing I own, and it goes up about 7% a year in value | [06:22] |
bgupta | (Well other than my apt) | [06:22] |
mjr_ | my friend who owns an it consulting company said that that is his biggest regret | [06:22] |
bgupta | It's a fallow asset.. | [06:22] |
mircea_popescu | bgupta mpex is, yes. | [06:22] |
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mircea_popescu | and wth, it boggles that anyone'd pay 200k for a domain. | [06:23] |
mircea_popescu | i certainly wouldn't. | [06:23] |
bgupta | well not an individual for sure.. | [06:23] |
mjr_ | companies | [06:23] |
bgupta | think startup or large company | [06:23] |
pizzaman1337 | with tons of users | [06:23] |
mjr_ | 200k is not much for a big company | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | that's besides thew point. | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | 200k isn'r much for me, either | [06:24] |
bgupta | they don't even allow people to register two letter domains any more. | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | but it is very much for a domain | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | which is what we're discussing. | [06:24] |
mjr_ | i meant as part of a budget involving web presence | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | even so. | [06:24] |
bgupta | memorable domains are getting harder to come by... | [06:24] |
mjr_ | that is a scarce resource | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | eh get out | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | it never was scarce, it's never gettingscarce. | [06:25] |
mjr_ | when i was looking into getting a domain name for my site | [06:25] |
mjr_ | huh? | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | seriously. | [06:25] |
benkay | ad buys are made by advertisers | [06:25] |
benkay | they don't think like that | [06:25] |
mjr_ | it is hard to get a one word domain | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | ya, they think like stupid. | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | no "memorable domain" has a site worth anything on it. | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | all the good sites are on new names | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | [06:25] | |
mircea_popescu | [06:25] | |
mircea_popescu | mpex | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | etc. | [06:25] |
bgupta | amazon | [06:25] |
mjr_ | and getting those domains | [06:25] |
mjr_ | would be expensive | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | amazon is only memorable because of amazon | [06:26] |
benkay | coca cola's ad company isn't smart enough for that shit | [06:26] |
Chaang-Noi | i hold tygrr.com and bitcoins.lc not really worth a whole lot. | [06:26] |
benkay | they're herd followers | [06:26] |
benkay | worse than traders | [06:26] |
mjr_ | i got btcshares.com | [06:26] |
Chaang-Noi | and litecoin.me :) | [06:26] |
mjr_ | btc-etf.com | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | point in case : btc.com | [06:26] |
mjr_ | gone | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | did any of the large btc players bother with it ? nope. | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | well... whoopdedo. why not ? | [06:26] |
mjr_ | bitcoins are still very new | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | forget that. | [06:27] |
mjr_ | i bet that domain will be very valuable in the future | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | there's people in btc that can afford 200k for a domain. | [06:27] |
mjr_ | of course | [06:27] |
Chaang-Noi | btc.com is a porn site oh lol | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | i bet it will be very valuable in the sense 10 bucks are very valuable. | [06:27] |
Chaang-Noi | brain trust company | [06:27] |
benkay | their capital is best put to work in profitable ventures | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi some bs wannabe japanese co. | [06:28] |
bgupta | well we are a bit different in that we use irc and weirdly named forums for most of our info. we seek out knowledge | [06:28] |
dub | btc.com is too generic, like dollar.com | [06:28] |
dub | you don't want that for a brand | [06:28] |
mircea_popescu | dub yet bitcoin.com was all the bruhaha | [06:28] |
bgupta | yeah the problem with too generic is they aren't trademarkable. | [06:28] |
bgupta | which means you can't build a company or a brand around them | [06:28] |
bgupta | e.g business.com | [06:28] |
Chaang-Noi | sex.com | [06:29] |
dub | sex.com sold for $14mn in 2010 | [06:29] |
bgupta | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/26/businesscom-sold-for-345-million/ look what it's being used of now | [06:29] |
Chaang-Noi | pretty generic:) | [06:29] |
benkay | wankery | [06:29] |
benkay | lotteries | [06:29] |
dub | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name#Resale_of_domain_names | [06:29] |
mjr_ | i'm just saying | [06:29] |
benkay | spend your energy on creating value | [06:30] |
dub | insure.com for $16mn | [06:30] |
benkay | capture a small fraction | [06:30] |
benkay | don't wager with your life work | [06:30] |
mjr_ | typically we think of being creative | [06:30] |
dub | man up and use it for a shock site tbh | [06:30] |
bgupta | yeah.. I've been holding it, because one day when I do a startup, I want a unique domain name to do it with. | [06:30] |
mjr_ | but that is way harder for some people than just throwing money at stuff | [06:30] |
benkay | lolwut | [06:30] |
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benkay | that domain's taking up too much of your brainspace | [06:31] |
mjr_ | seriously | [06:31] |
benkay | not you mjr_ | [06:31] |
mjr_ | i know | [06:31] |
mjr_ | i am just saying that domains are valuable, cuz people want them | [06:31] |
benkay | if you're wasting cycles on thinking about domains | [06:31] |
mircea_popescu | [06:31] | |
mircea_popescu | bgupta i simply don't believe the sort of bs | [06:31] |
benkay | you're not going to be successful in running your own business | [06:31] |
Chaang-Noi | sex.com made shit loads on money? | [06:32] |
mircea_popescu | i am aware the domain name scam people are really working hard to make their coolaid credible | [06:32] |
Chaang-Noi | of | [06:32] |
benkay | not in a high-competition, high-growth, environment | [06:32] |
mjr_ | benkay: that is the point, most people do not want to own their own business | [06:32] |
mircea_popescu | but a ny times blog hit is nothing in this discussion. | [06:32] |
mircea_popescu | 345mn didn't happen | [06:32] |
benkay | i get it man, i get it | [06:32] |
bgupta | The reality is google kinda made domain names less relevant.. that and the fact that browsers changed how they deal with stuff you type into the address bar. | [06:32] |
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benkay | doesn't mean i don't think that putting it all on a specific slot on the fucking roulette table is a good idea | [06:32] |
dub | yeah for most people google is the address bar | [06:33] |
benkay | bgupta++ | [06:33] |
benkay | i infrequently type domains | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | the way to go is just invent a name and use that as your tm and domains | [06:33] |
benkay | it's like gm |
[06:33] |
dub | yep, and remember bookmarks? lol | [06:33] |
benkay | bi |
[06:33] |
bgupta | point is that if I worked really hard I could sell it for $200,000, or if I worked even harder, I could build a kick ass business with a cool domain name that's easy to type.. I have time for neither atm. | [06:34] |
benkay | ca |
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benkay | aren't there things you'd enjoy working on more? | [06:34] |
benkay | i mean | [06:34] |
bgupta | if someone flush with btw wanted to take it off my hands I'd be cool.. but that's a side bar.. | [06:34] |
benkay | i'm tired of hustling | [06:34] |
benkay | it's fucking nice to build stuff people value enough to cut checks for | [06:34] |
bgupta | Yeah sure.. I run a LUG.. which I LOVE. | [06:35] |
dub | its probably worht throwing a thread up about it | [06:35] |
benkay | no sarcasm? | [06:35] |
bgupta | I do OSS stuff, love that too | [06:35] |
benkay | what's your profit center? | [06:35] |
dub | the great thing about bitcoin is there is no shortage of idiots, some with too much money | [06:35] |
bgupta | my profit center? | [06:35] |
benkay | true of any market of a reasonable size | [06:35] |
benkay | trivial conclusion | [06:35] |
mjr_ | dub: yep, the market fixes that situation | [06:35] |
bgupta | I do consulting which is a brutal business. | [06:36] |
benkay | meh | [06:36] |
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benkay | what space? | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | [06:36] | |
bgupta | cloud shit | [06:36] |
benkay | how brutal? | [06:36] |
bgupta | mmm.. to make a dollar you need to sell a body, brutal.. no real leverage, no real product. | [06:37] |
dub | tis potentially a nice way for someone to cash out $200k of btc too | [06:37] |
benkay | mircea_popescu: the best part is that everything i get checks for, i also learn new skills that multiply my rate | [06:38] |
bgupta | dub what forum would I post it to if I wanted to pursue? | [06:38] |
dub | bgupta: the bitcointalk market or auction forums | [06:39] |
bgupta | benkay: I run a small consulting company.. it's not just me… so most of my time is spent doing business stuff not learning | [06:39] |
benkay | i've seen that happen man | [06:39] |
mircea_popescu | i've done plenty of consulting and it was always fun | [06:39] |
mircea_popescu | what the heck. | [06:39] |
benkay | i've never seen someone run the shop and still make commits | [06:39] |
benkay | i love it | [06:40] |
Bowjob | stupid parents took my piano away | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | "Japan needs to face up to reality, and take real steps to correct its mistakes... so as to prevent a further escalation," | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | the chinese are about to bitchslap them | [06:40] |
bgupta | The one thing I do like about it is the flexibility... | [06:40] |
benkay | flex is nice | [06:40] |
benkay | i get to bill anywhere i am | [06:40] |
benkay | boss-folks like to see my face from time to time | [06:40] |
bgupta | I get to pick my priorities.. | [06:41] |
benkay | but it's part of my mystique that i show up at the office kind of randomly | [06:41] |
bgupta | been growing my lug and getting some pretty cool speakers.. | [06:41] |
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benkay | what's the appeal in the lug? | [06:41] |
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bgupta | this is the next event: http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/82181872/ | [06:41] |
dub | benkay: I had that at ibm, nobody (besides customers) had any clue what I did | [06:42] |
benkay | big bluuuuue | [06:42] |
benkay | corporate honky | [06:42] |
benkay | ;) | [06:42] |
bgupta | and this is the one after: http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/102722692/ | [06:42] |
bgupta | and even cooler this is the one after that: http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/82181952/ | [06:42] |
bgupta | I get to onsite awesome folks to NYC to talk to a bunch of geeks | [06:43] |
benkay | that is pretty neat | [06:43] |
bgupta | s/onsite/invite/ | [06:43] |
bgupta | afk for 5 smoke.. | [06:43] |
benkay | that's a lot... | [06:43] |
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Bowjob | btc crashing | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | lmao no way | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [06:45] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.30215, Best ask: 47.30587, Bid-ask spread: 0.00372, Last trade: 47.30215, 24 hour volume: 50842.40617608, 24 hour low: 43.60001, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.10288 | [06:45] |
Bowjob | http://coinlab.com/ | [06:45] |
Bowjob | it was 46.60 | [06:45] |
Bowjob | lol | [06:45] |
Bowjob | by "crashing" i mean volatility | [06:45] |
Bowjob | lol | [06:45] |
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bgupta | always volitile | [06:49] |
bgupta | nbd | [06:50] |
bgupta | so the real reason I can into this channel was to ask what folks think about ASICMINER shares, and the passthrough variants. | [06:50] |
bgupta | I perhaps overshared, and for that I apologize, I;m a bit too open that way. | [06:51] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident jborkl | [06:52] |
gribble | Nick 'jborkl', with hostmask 'jborkl!~jborkl_@unaffiliated/jborkl', is not identified. | [06:52] |
jarpiain | jborkl jborkl_ jcpham JimmyHo3 jurov JWU42 | [06:52] |
the-bucket-shop | I've not looked at numbers for asicminer but I've met people at meet ups that seem to like it alot | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | ;;get info jborkl | [06:52] |
gribble | Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | ;;getinfo jborkl | [06:52] |
gribble | Error: "getinfo" is not a valid command. | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gpginfo jborkl | [06:52] |
gribble | Error: "gpginfo" is not a valid command. | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | what the fuck | [06:52] |
dub | ;;ident jborkl | [06:52] |
gribble | Nick 'jborkl', with hostmask 'jborkl!~jborkl_@unaffiliated/jborkl', is not identified. | [06:52] |
dub | ;;getrating jborkl | [06:52] |
gribble | This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated. | [06:52] |
jborkl | hmm, let me auth | [06:53] |
bgupta | trying to value the shares, as they are starting to climb… faster than I can transfer btc out of mtgox (which is where has been my wallet for the past year.) | [06:53] |
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bgupta | am I idented? | [06:53] |
bgupta | I set that up ages ago… not sure if it's enabled | [06:53] |
dub | ;;ident bgupta | [06:53] |
gribble | Nick 'bgupta', with hostmask 'bgupta!~bgupta@207-237-250-126.c3-0.80w-ubr1.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com', is not identified. | [06:53] |
mircea_popescu | bgupta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg1605413#msg1605413 if you mean asicminer | [06:54] |
bgupta | thanks for the link will read.. | [06:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01398 = 0.1398 BTC [+] | [06:55] |
jborkl | ;;ident jborkl_ | [06:56] |
gribble | Nick 'jborkl_', with hostmask 'jborkl_!~jborkl@unaffiliated/jborkl', is not identified. | [06:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01599 BTC [+] | [06:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.01999 = 0.3598 BTC [+] | [06:56] |
bgupta | so one thing I discovered is once the initial asicminer investors have been paid dividends drop by half.. since the real investors own half of the whole thing. | [06:56] |
jborkl | ;;ident jborkl | [06:56] |
gribble | Nick 'jborkl', with hostmask 'jborkl!~jborkl_@unaffiliated/jborkl', is identified as user jborkl_, with GPG key id 3ABA925F1676E0DA, key fingerprint BEDA499D84B3F11FAC2C98C13ABA925F1676E0DA, and bitcoin address 1assBEfKxpuhv3HdYfQwf9h2TR43DwVke | [06:56] |
bgupta | considering initial investors bought shares at ~0.1btc that should happen sooner than later | [06:57] |
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Bowjob | Fuck | [06:58] |
Bowjob | I'm mad | [06:58] |
Bowjob | ... stupid fucking parents taking my piano downstairs | [06:58] |
Bowjob | bpjhwsipghsipfghipaefghiaef | [06:58] |
dub | firstworldproblems | [07:00] |
bgupta | mircea_popescu: Without asking you to divulge too much roughly what part of the world are you in? | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/274/bernard-hopkins-vs-tavoris-cloud-hopkins-to-win/ | [07:00] |
dub | lol | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | whoa hopkins won by like, 1 | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | bgupta timisoara | [07:00] |
Bowjob | i swear i have rage building right now | [07:01] |
Bowjob | fuck | [07:01] |
bgupta | very cool... | [07:02] |
bgupta | Bowjob.. go deal. | [07:02] |
bgupta | be sweet | [07:02] |
bgupta | mircea: Is there a way to buy straight up shares of asicminer, without doing passthrough stuff? | [07:04] |
bgupta | err: mircea_popescu ^^ | [07:04] |
mircea_popescu | no. they blew their mpex listing. | [07:04] |
bgupta | what does that mean they "blew a listing" | [07:05] |
bgupta | delisted? | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu | nah, just, failed to list. | [07:05] |
bgupta | blew their chance? | [07:05] |
* | bgupta passed on the opportunity? | [07:05] |
Bowjob | I feel so violated.. that piano is my personal one | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu | think of it in these terms : company pops up, doesn't list on nyse, lists on pink sheets | [07:05] |
Bowjob | theres a second piano downstairs that i do not care about | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu | through a weird agreement they don't sign | [07:05] |
mircea_popescu | it's a little lala | [07:05] |
bgupta | ok.. | [07:06] |
bgupta | SO the muse thing that everyone bitches about the 30btc thing.. that's just a one time thing, no? | [07:06] |
dub | Bowjob: 1%problems | [07:07] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [07:07] |
bgupta | s//muse/mpex/ | [07:07] |
bgupta | ok.. that would make trading difficult for me if it was a trading cost. | [07:07] |
mircea_popescu | "everyone". hm. it's more of a "everyone that's bitching about it is bitching about it". | [07:07] |
dub | bgupta: there are lots of otc asicminer trades happening, check the auction forum | [07:07] |
mircea_popescu | obviously those that don't bitch don't bitch. | [07:07] |
dub | bgupta: friedcat (asicminer guy) is timely about transferring etc | [07:08] |
mircea_popescu | but yes, there's a large assignment market in it too, otc. | [07:08] |
mircea_popescu | well...large. 100s of btc or so | [07:08] |
bgupta | err.. lot me clarify "everything that bitches" means "everyone that bitches about mpex"… I believe that's the biggest complaint. and I'm ok with it… | [07:09] |
mircea_popescu | i thought the biggest complaint was that i'm not nice. | [07:09] |
bgupta | I am ready to buy sink 300 some odd btw into asicminer.. these penny-ante exchanges aren't quite cutting it. | [07:10] |
bgupta | ohh.. you are mpex? | [07:10] |
bgupta | very cool. sorry for being oversharing. | [07:10] |
bgupta | (Realising that 300 btw is penny-ante) | [07:11] |
bgupta | btc | [07:11] |
mircea_popescu | what's oversharing ? | [07:11] |
bgupta | the sharing of internet complaints.. | [07:11] |
Bowjob | I'll warn them next time they try to pull this shit again, I will yell at them so that all the guests will hear it. | [07:11] |
mircea_popescu | lol that's not a problem, the internet was born to kvetch | [07:11] |
mircea_popescu | anyway. it's a gamble on multiple scores. | [07:12] |
bgupta | mircea_popescu: are your trades listed publicly? IE: do I need to buy in to see traffic? | [07:13] |
mircea_popescu | nope. it streams here for one. | [07:13] |
bgupta | fuck it's all a gamble | [07:13] |
bgupta | opps | [07:13] |
mircea_popescu | all the earlier excitement about the trading puts for instance | [07:13] |
mircea_popescu | twitter.com/mpex1 or you could just follow the twitter. | [07:13] |
mircea_popescu | there's also a rss but atm unavailable. | [07:13] |
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bgupta | Ohhhh… was gonna ask what these things are.. | [07:15] |
* | bgupta realized they are derivatives not securities | [07:15] |
bgupta | me hates me some derivatives. (unless of course.. I am issuing them) | [07:15] |
mircea_popescu | puts for this month around 50usd/btc | [07:15] |
mircea_popescu | you can issue, sure. ths person was selling short. | [07:16] |
bgupta | mircea: I am looking for a "stock exchange" | [07:16] |
mircea_popescu | mpex does shares, options, futures | [07:16] |
mircea_popescu | the whole thing | [07:16] |
bgupta | http://mpex.coinbr.com/ ?? | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu | techbnically speaking options are securities anyway | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu | that;s a proxy. | [07:17] |
bgupta | err Ok I like equity | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu | currently dead. | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu | $vwap | [07:17] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/d6AS1y6d | [07:17] |
mircea_popescu | there, that's a list of what traded past month | [07:17] |
bgupta | JSON? | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu | yes | [07:18] |
bgupta | ok | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu | grep S. for shares | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu | ie equity | [07:18] |
bgupta | json is human readable.. but… I need to whip out cli shit to deal.. one moment.. (I'm slow) | [07:19] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.mpoe | [07:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067638 / 0.00074998 / 0.00075 (89317 shares, 66.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00067334 / 0.00074889 / 0.00078628 (10735832 shares, 8,040.01 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00068483 / 0.00078628 (58572634 shares, 40,112.83 BTC) | [07:20] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.dice | [07:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00549999 / 0.00549999 / 0.0055 (1650 shares, 9.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00558182 / 0.006225 (392080 shares, 2,188.52 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616213 / 0.0069 (3732756 shares, 23,001.75 BTC) | [07:20] |
mircea_popescu | there, that sorta thing | [07:20] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.bbet | [07:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC) | [07:20] |
bgupta | gotcha… ok I have to admit, I think the shit futures/options/derivatives are gonna make a number of folks very rich, I wish we could leave all that baggage behind is in the fiat world. We don't need wall street and hedge funds and institutional folks to "help us along" | [07:24] |
bgupta | brb | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | uhm | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | how do you expect btc to work without financial instruments. | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | just because your master stripped you naked and beat you with a whip doesn't mean there's no need for whips in this new state you're making "for freedom". | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | they have their utility. | [07:26] |
bgupta | fair enough… they have their utility. | [07:31] |
Bowjob | http://coinlab.com/ | [07:33] |
Bowjob | some serious resistance this is | [07:33] |
bgupta | meh… guessing price is gonna need to consolidate a bit.. before it can go up again | [07:35] |
bgupta | could collapse too… | [07:35] |
bgupta | it's had an amazing run… (I think it's not gonna collapse below 20 or so… but that's just me).. I think it has huge potential | [07:36] |
bgupta | but | [07:36] |
bgupta | I've starting thinking about things in btw… not USD… it's hard | [07:37] |
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bgupta | how do i get post access on bitcointalk?? | [07:38] |
bgupta | I get "be odd on newbie: but that's %^&ing retarded. | [07:39] |
bgupta | err ocd | [07:39] |
bgupta | ok my typing has suffered tonight as I drank a bottle of manzanilla | [07:40] |
the-bucket-shop | bgupta I think you make 5 posts on the newbie section | [07:40] |
bgupta | the-bucket-shop: Like mods are retards x 5? |
[07:41] |
bgupta | hard to post there… | [07:42] |
the-bucket-shop | no, I would add +1 to each retard mod. multiplying will put you way over | [07:42] |
bgupta | ok now have posted two | [07:43] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [-] | [07:45] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [-] | [07:45] |
bgupta | now post three | [07:45] |
the-bucket-shop | you can skip the updates, try to keep this room on point | [07:45] |
bgupta | sorry… | [07:46] |
* | bgupta thought folks might want to read them. | [07:46] |
bgupta | although (sidetracked now)… They probably don't | [07:47] |
Bowjob | whats up with LTC | [07:49] |
Bowjob | wtf | [07:49] |
the-bucket-shop | problems in the litecoin community? I don't follow the news there, but would love to hear complaints if any. | [07:49] |
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Bowjob | ;;eightball Will LTC crash? | [08:00] |
gribble | The outlook is good. | [08:00] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [08:03] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.34445, Best ask: 47.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15555, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 51372.27442917, 24 hour low: 43.70101, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.15373 | [08:03] |
bgupta | ltc will go wonky one way or another when all the gnu miners drop out of btw and point at ltc. | [08:03] |
mircea_popescu | ahh my huge roast is in the oven | [08:04] |
mircea_popescu | huuuuuge | [08:04] |
bgupta | roast what? | [08:05] |
mircea_popescu | a 2lb pork chop | [08:06] |
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Bowjob | ;;eightball Will LTC rise in value? | [08:08] |
gribble | _I_ don't know. | [08:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.005884 = 2.942 BTC [+] | [08:10] |
ThickAsThieves | bgupta, doesn't mining difficulty push coin value up with it? | [08:14] |
bgupta | Bowjob.. a big chunk of BTC miners are gonna be mining LTC so... | [08:15] |
bgupta | yes and no | [08:15] |
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bgupta | supply and demand is what ultimately drives value | [08:15] |
bgupta | demand just deals with one end of that equation. | [08:16] |
bgupta | err difficulty just deals with one end of that equation.. and that's supply. | [08:16] |
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ThickAsThieves | ltc has a use just in that you can play it against btc | [08:19] |
ThickAsThieves | then you have litecoinglobal.com | [08:19] |
ThickAsThieves | where there are btc and ltc-denominated assets | [08:19] |
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bgupta | so I here | [08:20] |
bgupta | hear | [08:20] |
ThickAsThieves | as long as people mostly stay focused on 1 alt-coin, it will do well | [08:20] |
mircea_popescu | aite boys and girls. laters! | [08:20] |
bgupta | dev coins. | [08:20] |
bgupta | are wack | [08:20] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [08:20] |
ThickAsThieves | i was like dev coins what? | [08:20] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/ - down atm - private instances around - also see !help | [14:37] |
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mircea_popescu | !ticker m ^oix | [14:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+] | [14:39] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 40.86787592 / 49.80381297 / 50.5311083 (no shares, 17,228.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [14:39] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [14:39] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.28030, Best ask: 47.30009, Bid-ask spread: 0.01979, Last trade: 47.30009, 24 hour volume: 38523.58082220, 24 hour low: 44.30000, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.52796 | [14:39] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [-] | [14:44] |
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mircea_popescu | ok so : jurov's coinbr has been nuked too, for the 2nd time. working on maximian's idea atm, probably back online soon. | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | 3rd generation, here we come. | [14:53] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 99 @ 0.000725 = 0.0718 BTC [+] | [14:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 38 @ 0.000725 = 0.0276 BTC [+] | [14:56] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;seen ineedausername | [15:05] |
gribble | I have not seen ineedausername. | [15:05] |
AndChat567216 | It's perhaps discussed already... but why not a MPEX proxy as TOR hidden service? | [15:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [-] | [15:16] |
mircea_popescu | AndChat567216 the concern is that may cause trouble to tor. | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu | but it's being worked on | [15:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+] | [15:19] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 25 @ 0.00194 = 0.0485 BTC [-] | [15:24] |
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the-bucket-shop | !ticker m s.dice | [15:50] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.005884 / 0.005884 (500 shares, 2.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00557643 / 0.006225 (387228 shares, 2,159.35 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616219 / 0.0069 (3723806 shares, 22,946.81 BTC) | [15:50] |
the-bucket-shop | !ticker m s.bbet | [15:50] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00174357 / 0.00197 (80200 shares, 139.83 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00178893 / 0.00197 (111808 shares, 200.02 BTC) | [15:50] |
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deadweasel | Chooser starting his own gambling/shares site? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151470.msg1607522#msg1607522 | [17:29] |
ThickAsThieves | is there someone i can bug to process manual withdrawals from BTCT/LTCglobal | [17:30] |
ZedsterX | that's the spirit | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves burnside | [17:30] |
ThickAsThieves | he's the only one :/ | [17:30] |
ThickAsThieves | ltc at .0785 alrdy | [17:31] |
ThickAsThieves | oops | [17:31] |
ThickAsThieves | .00785 | [17:31] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;calc .00785 * 45 | [17:32] |
gribble | 0.35325 | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | heh srsly ?! | [17:32] |
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ThickAsThieves | it went up 10% in 10min | [17:33] |
kakobrekla | at this rate you gonna have to update that bitbet proposition soon | [17:33] |
kakobrekla | or make another bet | [17:33] |
kakobrekla | "ltc will be woth more than btc" | [17:34] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm gonna get all the ltc kiddies betting on it | [17:34] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | is there a ltc chart like bitcoincharts anywhere ? | [17:36] |
kakobrekla | dunno | [17:36] |
kakobrekla | all i have i 5min chart | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | lol sux | [17:36] |
kakobrekla | https://btc-e.com/exchange | [17:37] |
kakobrekla | ltc/btc | [17:37] |
kakobrekla | action realtime | [17:37] |
mircea_popescu | i can't believe they dion't have a chart system | [17:37] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.ltc-charts.com/period-charts.php?period=today&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-btc&market=btc-e | [17:37] |
ThickAsThieves | its a little wonky | [17:37] |
mircea_popescu | a a | [17:37] |
mircea_popescu | ty | [17:38] |
ThickAsThieves | np | [17:38] |
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ThickAsThieves | rally is pulling back | [17:40] |
ThickAsThieves | i sold 1050 ltc for 7.5btc :) | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu | well done. | [17:42] |
ThickAsThieves | wouldve been another 3000 if burnside did use Flintstone withdrawal method | [17:42] |
kakobrekla | lol | [17:42] |
pigeons | http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=2-days&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-btc&market=btc-e | [17:42] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [17:42] |
ThickAsThieves | same chart but for black people? | [17:43] |
pigeons | yep, black is cooler | [17:43] |
mircea_popescu | lol black is what the pros use! | [17:44] |
ThickAsThieves | i have too many other windows that are white | [17:44] |
ThickAsThieves | kills my eyes to flip back and forth | [17:44] |
ThickAsThieves | i guess if i had more monitors i could set up some for charts | [17:44] |
ThickAsThieves | but i still have a day job | [17:45] |
ThickAsThieves | for now | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | dump dat shit | [17:45] |
ThickAsThieves | tough to, | [17:45] |
ThickAsThieves | it's my own business | [17:45] |
ThickAsThieves | and ive pared it down a lot | [17:45] |
ThickAsThieves | but still serve about 60 websites and 25 clients as designer | [17:45] |
ThickAsThieves | then some adwords account mgmt | [17:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+] | [17:46] |
kakobrekla | you are a designer? | [17:46] |
ThickAsThieves | yessir | [17:46] |
kakobrekla | got a portfolio? | [17:46] |
pigeons | why are there still designers? we have bootstrap | [17:46] |
ThickAsThieves | i do mostly branding stuff | [17:46] |
ThickAsThieves | web design occassionally | [17:46] |
ThickAsThieves | my portfolio are all busted atm | [17:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [-] | [17:47] |
ThickAsThieves | i put up a new wordpress site that wasnt finished | [17:47] |
ThickAsThieves | what kind of design are you looking for? i could dig up relavant samples | [17:47] |
Namworld | lol... everybody use basic bootstrap only! A la GLBSE. | [17:47] |
ThickAsThieves | relevant* | [17:47] |
Diablo-D3 | fucking bootstrap | [17:48] |
ThickAsThieves | i'd rather see bootstrap than a lot of other shit | [17:48] |
mircea_popescu | did you get your portofolio ddosed ? | [17:48] |
Namworld | I prefer hand coded website | [17:48] |
Diablo-D3 | the newest version of foundation actually looks nice | [17:48] |
Diablo-D3 | Namworld: isn't worth it anymore | [17:48] |
ThickAsThieves | no, cuz i havent linked to it here yet mp | [17:48] |
Diablo-D3 | too many flakey devices that get css wrong | [17:48] |
Chaang-Noi | ltc:) | [17:49] |
ThickAsThieves | i dont do any programming other than tertiary stuff | [17:49] |
ThickAsThieves | some server mgmt | [17:49] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: you should | [17:49] |
Diablo-D3 | its good for you | [17:49] |
ThickAsThieves | i know | [17:49] |
Diablo-D3 | teaches you how to think | [17:49] |
Namworld | What? How would it not be worth it? | [17:49] |
ThickAsThieves | i have so many projects already | [17:49] |
Diablo-D3 | Namworld: I just told you why | [17:49] |
ThickAsThieves | ive been learning plenty | [17:50] |
Namworld | That's not even a good reason. | [17:50] |
ThickAsThieves | just not programming | [17:50] |
Diablo-D3 | Namworld: if you want your website to look correct on every device ever, yes, it is a good reason | [17:50] |
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Namworld | The same can be done manually... | [17:51] |
Diablo-D3 | yes, if you OWN every device ever | [17:51] |
Namworld | Plus bootstrap doesn't support everything... | [17:51] |
Diablo-D3 | bootstrap supports everything worthwhile | [17:51] |
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ThickAsThieves | oh geez | [17:52] |
Diablo-D3 | and supports a lot of older mobile browsers that really should just be tossed in the trash | [17:52] |
Namworld | Same can be done manually... | [17:52] |
Diablo-D3 | not reliably | [17:52] |
Diablo-D3 | dude, I've written frameworks like bootstrap and foundation before, you haven't | [17:52] |
ThickAsThieves | $vwap | [17:52] |
mpexbot | ThickAsThieves: http://pastebin.com/q5kdCh3m | [17:52] |
Diablo-D3 | its a pain in the fucking ass, and not worth wasting your time on | [17:52] |
Diablo-D3 | if a team wants to dedicate their shitty little lives to it, let them, it saves me the time of having to hit phones with hammers until they work | [17:53] |
ThickAsThieves | and what are your feelings on Wordpress | [17:54] |
ThickAsThieves | dare i ask | [17:54] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: I fucking hate it and I'm seriously considering replacing mine with a static blog | [17:54] |
Diablo-D3 | do like some git cron job or something | [17:54] |
ThickAsThieves | you hate it personally, and/or you think others shouldn't use it? | [17:54] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: yes | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [17:55] |
Diablo-D3 | Ive ran a wordpress blog for like 7 or 8 years now | [17:55] |
Diablo-D3 | it makes me hate php more and more | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | like all my clients use it for their small biz sites | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | so many hax | [17:55] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: they shouldn't, its a security hazard | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | i hate it now | [17:55] |
Diablo-D3 | this is why I run it on an isolated vps | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | i mean i dont mind using it | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | but all the hax | [17:55] |
Diablo-D3 | just so it can't fuck other shit up | [17:55] |
ThickAsThieves | so hard to explain to a plumber | [17:55] |
Diablo-D3 | ThickAsThieves: its easy to explain to a plumber | [17:56] |
Diablo-D3 | "wordpress is written in php, php makes it easy for you to write code wrong so hackers can come in and fuck your website up" | [17:56] |
Diablo-D3 | "but why would they do this?" | [17:56] |
Diablo-D3 | "because they're assholes, Bob, they're assholes" | [17:56] |
ThickAsThieves | because its free | [17:56] |
ThickAsThieves | his name is actually Bob, lol | [17:57] |
Diablo-D3 | plumbers are always named Bob | [17:57] |
Diablo-D3 | its a rule | [17:57] |
Diablo-D3 | if you name your kid bob, he will grow up to either be a plumber or an electrician | [17:57] |
ThickAsThieves | What if you call him Robert | [17:57] |
Diablo-D3 | mass murderer | [17:58] |
ThickAsThieves | Bert the mass murderer, yep | [17:58] |
Namworld | ... | [17:58] |
ThickAsThieves | namworld is named Robert i guess | [17:59] |
Diablo-D3 | but yeah, storing your blog statically in git and then outsourcing the comments to a service | [17:59] |
Diablo-D3 | would really cut down on the bullshit | [17:59] |
ThickAsThieves | clients want to edit their content in Word tho | [17:59] |
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pigeons | lots of sites i dont realize they have comments cause they use javascript to display them from a 3rd party service | [18:00] |
Diablo-D3 | so? they can copy paste | [18:00] |
Diablo-D3 | pigeons: er, except said 3rd party services email you on comment | [18:00] |
Diablo-D3 | which is REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING | [18:00] |
Diablo-D3 | unless they explicitly set it up as moderation, then thats fine | [18:00] |
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pigeons | that's why i use your email address | [18:01] |
Diablo-D3 | lol but its gmail and gmail filters like a baus | [18:01] |
pigeons | bwais | [18:03] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:07] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.00564 = 0.1805 BTC [+] | [18:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00565 = 0.2825 BTC [+] | [18:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.00567 = 1.701 BTC [+] | [18:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.005709 = 0.0571 BTC [+] | [18:08] |
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Rick__ | Is MPEx back on line/ | [18:16] |
Rick__ | ? | [18:16] |
FabianB | Rick__: still only here on irc | [18:16] |
Rick__ | when will it be back on line? | [18:16] |
Namworld | No one can know... it's being DDoS'ed | [18:17] |
Namworld | Whenever however is DDoS'ing it stops. | [18:17] |
smickles | $ping | [18:18] |
mpexbot | pong | [18:18] |
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Rick__ | mircea cant do anything with the "ddos"? | [18:19] |
Rick__ | what if the ddosing wont stop? | [18:20] |
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jurov | i'm working on bringing mpex.coinbr.com onlinw with amazing powers | [18:20] |
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jurov | hopefully others, too | [18:20] |
Rick__ | looking forword to have mpex.coinbr.com back | [18:21] |
Namworld | Amazing amazonian powers? | [18:22] |
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mircea_popescu | Rick__ as i said, there;'s more hardware coming online, and meanwhile trading works through the bots | [18:23] |
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mircea_popescu | have you been reading the forum updates ? | [18:23] |
mircea_popescu | also possibly of interest to you, FabianB has released an equivalent of pympex capable of going through the irc bots | [18:23] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: would you mind if '$vwap s.dice' returned what one might expect? | [18:24] |
mircea_popescu | not at all | [18:24] |
smickles | same with $depth s.dice | [18:24] |
smickles | ooh, what's this FabianB thing? | [18:24] |
mircea_popescu | https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex | [18:25] |
FabianB | smickles: it's like pympex | [18:25] |
FabianB | just a little smoother interface, more features and can talk to the irc bots | [18:25] |
mircea_popescu | someone's gonna one day make a gui | [18:25] |
FabianB | as alternative to the http api | [18:25] |
mircea_popescu | smickles also of possible interest to you | [18:27] |
Namworld | I want a GUI... | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu | Mar 09 23:23:07 |
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mircea_popescu | Mar 09 23:23:13 |
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pigeons | did you turn normal during your time away from irc smickles? | [18:28] |
Rick__ | mircea,I can read English,but lots of computer things I dont understand,it's very diffcult for me | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu | Rick__ ok. basically, don't panic, we're working on it. even if ddos never stops. | [18:28] |
pigeons | Rick__: do you need some trades executed now? | [18:29] |
Rick__ | nope | [18:29] |
Rick__ | just care about the website | [18:29] |
pigeons | yes, we all cared about her, she's very pretty | [18:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:30] |
Rick__ | I invest hundreds of coin in it | [18:30] |
mircea_popescu | for all the hate that website got, seriously. | [18:30] |
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Rick__ | so basicly,when will it be back on line?do you have a schedule? | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu | Rick__ do you understand how ddos works ? | [18:31] |
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Rick__ | nope,not at all | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu | want me to explain ? | [18:31] |
FabianB | problem with GUIs is that its majority of users are ms windows users | [18:31] |
Rick__ | If you thing I can understand | [18:31] |
Rick__ | think | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | Rick__ ok lets see. suppose you have a shop somewhere. you make ok money selling things in your shop. | [18:32] |
Rick__ | yeah | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | one day a customer comes in and says "hi i want to buy a carrot". | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | your shop doesn't sell carrots. you tell him this. he leaves. | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | this is no big deal, really, mistakes happen. | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | the next day, 167`855`212 peopel come to your shop. each of them goes "hi i want to buy a carrot". | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | the queues reach as far as the next town | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | the police wants to fine you because your shop is blocking the traffic | [18:33] |
Rick__ | okay,that's making sence | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | what can you do ? | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | when will your shop be back taking normal orders ? | [18:33] |
Rick__ | shut the shop down? | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | well that's not very good is it ? | [18:33] |
Rick__ | yeah,want shot somebody! | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | hehe. | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | ok so, what you do is either make a much larger shop, or make the shop location secret, or both. | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | i am doing both. however, building a supermarket is not instantaneous. | [18:34] |
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Rick__ | so the carrot here,what exacly the hacker do , | [18:35] |
Rick__ | okay | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | it should have been online by yest, but we ran into supplier problems. that's detailed here : | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1601667#msg1601667 | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | read the messages from there on. | [18:35] |
Rick__ | okay,thank you very much | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | np. | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB hey, does opengl work on windoze ? | [18:37] |
pigeons | yes | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | is there opengl gui lib for py/perl ? | [18:37] |
pigeons | dunno, i've played with OGLE for capturing geometry | [18:38] |
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FabianB | mircea_popescu: probably, but opengl is good for games and maybe charts, but not so much for normal guis | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu | o really ?! | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu | why not ? | [18:39] |
FabianB | mircea_popescu: it's useful for 3D stuff etc. | [18:39] |
smickles | FabianB: looks nice, and good thing to add the ability to go via IRC :) | [18:39] |
mircea_popescu | i understand that, but i mean... if it can do that why couldn't it do some window boxes | [18:39] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: did kako say he wasn't going to make assbot 'hungry'? | [18:40] |
FabianB | sure you can, but it's easier to do GUIs with QT, GTK, Cocoa or Windows native stuff | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m P470T | [18:40] |
assbot | [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P470T] 1D: 0.14289205 / 0.14375761 / 0.14485191 (5000 shares, 718.79 BTC), 7D: 0.14289205 / 0.14708052 / 0.18400178 (5450 shares, 801.59 BTC), 30D: 0.14289205 / 0.18072094 / 0.58814383 (5900 shares, 1,066.25 BTC) | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB a ok | [18:40] |
pigeons | yes opengl doesn't have some of the same positioning microsoft's directx has, but opengl is ued on windows | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | i was just thinking one could make a single codebase that's then independently compilable by os | [18:41] |
FabianB | qt and gtk are kinda cross OS too; packaging is some work though for windows | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | but maybe that isn't the best way | [18:41] |
jonny3 | !help | [18:41] |
assbot | List of commands: | [18:41] |
assbot | !ticker |
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assbot | !mp |
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FabianB | mircea_popescu: the code can be done in a single codebase, but not the packaging | [18:41] |
pigeons | ncurses | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB well if you use win stuff for instance, that won't be compilable in linux | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | lol ncurses | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | if mpex gui ends up as a wine supported thing ima shoot myself | [18:42] |
pigeons | yeah wine has a lib for exactly that, building cross-platform gui apps | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | somebody just mentioned it here :p | [18:43] |
smickles | lol, opengl. Let's make a 3d gui for mpex. heh, or maybe something like a minecraft interface to mpex :D | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | that's why i said | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | smickles hey, didn't you have a minecraft server ? | [18:43] |
gabridome | thank you mircea that was really illuminating:"the next day, 167`855`212 peopel come to your shop. each of them goes "hi i want to buy a carrot". | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | gabridome :p | [18:44] |
Namworld | Well that's pretty much what a DDoS is. | [18:44] |
pigeons | i could go for telnet to an mpex mud | [18:44] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: yeah, i've got a minecraft server | [18:44] |
Namworld | Except the people are mindless zombies controlled by a hacker. | [18:45] |
smickles | well, it's tekkit, specifically | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | smickles what do you want to build a mpex hq on minecraft ? | [18:45] |
smickles | and we'll probably move to feed the beast | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | complete with being able to put in orders ? | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons make it! | [18:45] |
smickles | heh, could be fun | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | indeed lol | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu | i might even try out minecraft for this | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld i should have said "voters" shouldn't i have. | [18:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60399999 BTC [-] | [18:48] |
smickles | the thing about minecraft mods is, text based ones are quick and easy, in-game gui ones are a bit tougher, and 'in-game in-game' ones take a lot of time | [18:48] |
smickles | and a text one would be useless because it be like irc, but take longer open | [18:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.604 = 2.416 BTC [+] | [18:49] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499995 BTC [+] | [18:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.72 = 2.88 BTC [-] | [18:50] |
mircea_popescu | smickles it's nothing but fun side-project really | [18:50] |
mircea_popescu | if you ever felt like getting into game-making this'd be a great in | [18:50] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499997 BTC [+] | [18:51] |
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smickles | I did make a minecraft market mod which allowed players to buy and sell items/blocks at prices based on server-wide demand | [18:53] |
FabianB | well java would be cross platform too, but no-one likes java guis (both users and developers) | [18:53] |
smickles | ugly things those are | [18:53] |
mircea_popescu | java is evil. | [18:53] |
mircea_popescu | BUT | [18:53] |
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mircea_popescu | because of the way mpex works, the worst that can happen isn't really too bad at all | [18:53] |
smickles | ;;ticker | [18:54] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.30807, Best ask: 47.39936, Bid-ask spread: 0.09129, Last trade: 47.40000, 24 hour volume: 33231.78608909, 24 hour low: 45.23481, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.88175 | [18:54] |
mircea_popescu | smickles "a lot of work" is it because you need art made ? | [18:54] |
smickles | naw, minecraft art is simple stuff, the issue is fitting it into play in a way that makes sence | [18:55] |
FabianB | and on top: GUIs attract people that need a lot of support; telling someone to type XY into a commandline is easy (can be copy/pasted); telling someone to first click on Y, type X and point the mouse to Z is cumbersome | [18:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 499 @ 0.005884 = 2.9361 BTC [+] | [18:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7176 @ 0.00588401 = 42.2237 BTC [+] | [18:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9410 @ 0.00593938 = 55.8896 BTC [+] | [18:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5415 @ 0.00598314 = 32.3987 BTC [+] | [18:55] |
smickles | ;;ident | [18:56] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [18:56] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB this is very true | [18:56] |
mircea_popescu | gui is really a stupid way to interact with numeric machines, but hey. | [18:56] |
gabridome | what about a javascript platform? security not enough? | [18:56] |
mircea_popescu | gabridome security is not an issue really, because the messaging itself is encrypted | [18:57] |
FabianB | gabridome: already exists: coinbr.com | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | the only concern is not losing the user's gpg keys | [18:57] |
gabridome | I use WebPG | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | as long as it doesn't get cracked. | [18:58] |
smickles | just make the gui look exactly like bitcoinica did | [18:58] |
smickles | ;;sell 20 btc @ 49.82 usd | [18:58] |
gribble | Order id 13941 created. | [18:58] |
gabridome | yeah. And there's also the esclamation point issue I couldn't deal with probably.. | [18:59] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [18:59] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35000, Best ask: 47.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 33191.53570187, 24 hour low: 45.23481, 24 hour high: 47.95000, 24 hour vwap: 46.88337 | [18:59] |
mircea_popescu | aww i thought we're at 49.x | [18:59] |
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FabianB | good thing i did the IRC extension, coz it made me implement the interactive mode; very nice to work with mpex in its own shell | [19:00] |
mircea_popescu | i actually think there is a new business model being born here. | [19:01] |
gabridome | is it easy to install ruby on Mac? | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | offer saas to mpex users : give them a fixed ip vps and handle support for mpex connectivity | [19:01] |
FabianB | gabridome: it's shipped with mac, but old version and yes it's easy | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | charge whatever | [19:01] |
gabridome | thanks. Will give it a try | [19:01] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00591 = 0.0296 BTC [+] | [19:03] |
Bowjob | damn, litecoin | [19:04] |
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kakobrekla | ThickAsThieves looks like its live http://bitbet.us/bet/297/litecoin-surges-to-02-bitcoins-per-litecoin/ | [19:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00591 = 0.0296 BTC [+] | [19:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 62 @ 0.000725 = 0.045 BTC [+] | [19:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000725 BTC [+] | [19:10] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-] | [19:13] |
gabridome | coinbr.com looks like down. Is it? | [19:13] |
Bowjob | litecoin at 35 cents | [19:13] |
Bowjob | damn | [19:13] |
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ThickAsThieves | still cant get my withdrawal from burnside... | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/298/mpex-co-still-offline-friday-march-15th/ lmao | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | who's the smartass | [19:19] |
gabridome | FabianB:upgraded last version with brew (1.8.7) and tryed to install but:ERROR: Error installing mpex: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension. Don't want to spam the channel but could you give me a way to support? | [19:21] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.005905 = 0.1476 BTC [-] | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | what;'s the logfiles say ? | [19:22] |
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gabridome | mircea_popescu: that look like a challenge. I'ignore it | [19:24] |
gabridome | I'd ignore it | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | lol. but seriously, it probably spits out something more useful in a log somewhere. | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | you're prolly missing some itam. | [19:25] |
gabridome | I'llgo find the logs... | [19:25] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009989 BTC [-] | [19:27] |
gabridome | xcode-select: Error: No Xcode is selected. Use xcode-select -switch
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mircea_popescu | da fuck is xcode | [19:30] |
pigeons | apple's compiler/environment whatever | [19:31] |
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gabridome | ?m downloading the new version right now | [19:33] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: what's vsa again? | [19:34] |
pigeons | yeah use a computer not an apple | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | smickles volume in satoshi | [19:34] |
pigeons | well an apple II is a computer, but not a imacbook | [19:34] |
smickles | thx :) | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons so a sort of borland pascal ? | [19:35] |
pigeons | TURBO pascal | [19:35] |
mircea_popescu | heh i think pastebin.com is getting ddosed too. | [19:35] |
pigeons | Delphi++ | [19:36] |
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FabianB | gabridome: as the readme says you need ruby > 1.9 or 2.0 | [19:38] |
smickles | ok, it's privitive, but it's there: | [19:38] |
smickles | $help vwap | [19:38] |
mpexbot | smickles: (vwap [ |
[19:38] |
smickles | $help depth | [19:38] |
mpexbot | smickles: (depth [ |
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benkay | nice | [19:39] |
benkay | $depth | [19:39] |
mpexbot | benkay: http://pastebin.com/pNPn50Nk | [19:39] |
smickles | benkay: there is also $post to send mpex commands, if you didn't know already ;) | [19:39] |
benkay | i am familiar | [19:39] |
benkay | thank you | [19:39] |
benkay | do you have a moment to answer some rando questions, smickles? | [19:40] |
smickles | go ahead :) | [19:40] |
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kakobrekla | what is the air speed velocity of an african swallow? | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | unswallowed ? | [19:42] |
pigeons | do you like gladiator movies? | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | how many memes are there ? | [19:43] |
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mircea_popescu | hmm, smickles has failed to answer our questions. this is clearly a scam | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | there has been a full minute elapsed already. | [19:44] |
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smickles | philosophically speaking from a radical skepticism point of view, the answer to all of those is "i don't know" | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | $post U4KC19nM | [19:47] |
smickles | :P | [19:47] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/5ZNPXqdz | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | it's official, mpex is using new signature | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | 3D57448E80A56F64F1D35E8F14460196CFE0F3E1 / CFE0F3E1 | [19:50] |
Bowjob | so mp, doing any LTC mpex soon | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | make sure you update if you haven't already. | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob nah | [19:50] |
Bowjob | i find it baffling it reaches 35 cents | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | mania. | [19:50] |
Bowjob | considering it's a get rich quick | [19:51] |
Bowjob | scheme.. | [19:51] |
Bowjob | heck they openly admitted it on litecoin.org until recently | [19:51] |
Bowjob | lol | [19:51] |
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ThickAsThieves | ozcoin is already #2 pool | [19:54] |
ThickAsThieves | so much for that bet maturing | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days conspicuously absent | [19:56] |
kakobrekla | ;;getrating benkay | [19:57] |
gribble | This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net . | [19:57] |
benkay | hence my request :) | [19:57] |
kakobrekla | ;;rate benkay 1 mpex socket subscriber | [19:57] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded. | [19:57] |
benkay | my first rating! | [19:58] |
kakobrekla | congrats :) | [19:58] |
benkay | ;;rate kakobrekla 1 mpex socket hookup | [19:58] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kakobrekla has been recorded. | [19:58] |
benkay | thanks | [19:59] |
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gabridome | Pardon FabianB: seen just now. There's no brew formula for ruby 1.9. I guess I have to wait... | [20:01] |
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ThickAsThieves | ah my mistake the chart i was viewing says top pools that are 'asic ready' | [20:01] |
ThickAsThieves | http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/ | [20:01] |
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mod6 | Hey all. So I think I'm just gonna play with this thing a bit today, but it should be a lot less testing in here. I'm gonna change this thing so when it just sits in here, it looks for a msg from the owner defined by a pgp keyid and it'll verify with gribble via keyid & hostmask & if authenticated currently. | [20:02] |
mod6 | Then it can just msg mpexbot and get the stuff back without the additional join/part spammyness. | [20:03] |
mod6 | That code from yesterday worked, but kinda fucks a donkey. | [20:03] |
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mod6 | =) | [20:03] |
deadweasel | i wish the devs I work with were as honest as you. | [20:03] |
benkay | only mod6 smiles about fucking donkeys | [20:03] |
benkay | humility | [20:04] |
deadweasel | i dunno, donkey shows are pretty big in the mexico | [20:04] |
benkay | my favorite coders are ultra humble | [20:04] |
deadweasel | mine too | [20:04] |
benkay | i seek to emulate that | [20:04] |
deadweasel | i'm lucky, my team is quite humble, except for the crappy two. they fuck everything up and spend a whole sprint doing one shite feature. | [20:05] |
benkay | fire them | [20:05] |
deadweasel | which everyone else fixes in the next sprint | [20:05] |
benkay | are they shit or juniors? | [20:05] |
deadweasel | I think she is leaving, I saw her updating her resume last week, AT WORK. | [20:05] |
deadweasel | she is not bright. | [20:05] |
deadweasel | juniors | [20:05] |
benkay | sad | [20:05] |
benkay | but *could* they be trained into high performers? | [20:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01111 BTC [-] | [20:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 99 @ 0.0111 = 1.0989 BTC [-] | [20:06] |
benkay | i'm only moderately competent due to the generosity of senior engineers at every firm i've ever been a part of. | [20:06] |
benkay | w/r/t time, energy... | [20:06] |
deadweasel | no. :( | [20:06] |
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benkay | fire them. | [20:08] |
benkay | what kind of shop do work in? | [20:09] |
mod6 | lol, its been so long since i've written anything that interacts with irc. its kinda fun to write something like this. 250 million internet years ago, when the aol ice caps were still melting, I used Net::IRC a bunch, but now its deprecated. :/ | [20:10] |
mod6 | this new lib seems to do the trick though | [20:10] |
deadweasel | the aol ice caps, lol | [20:11] |
deadweasel | theres a few left, adrift in the north seas, they're like retarded unicorns | [20:11] |
mod6 | haha | [20:12] |
mod6 | yes. | [20:12] |
FabianB | gabridome: yep, wait or use http://rvm.io or compile yourself | [20:12] |
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deadweasel | i cringe when someone has @aol.com email | [20:12] |
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gabridome | FabianB: I've succeded to compile it with the new version of Xcode!!! Now it gives me errors about No definition for rb_s_gpgme* maybe is the ruby version... | [20:12] |
deadweasel | benkay: it's an AGILE/SCRUM team about 12 big, doing vetconnectplus.com | [20:14] |
FabianB | gabridome: with xcode? ok. | [20:14] |
FabianB | gabridome: well, you need > 1.9 | [20:15] |
deadweasel | it aggregates data from local vetinary machines and labs sent to regional labs, displays it altogether one historical graphs for vetinary diagnoses | [20:15] |
FabianB | and gpg needs to installed | [20:15] |
benkay | WHAT DEADWEASAL LETS GET BEERS | [20:15] |
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benkay | assuming you're working out of the idexx facility in portland | [20:15] |
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deadweasel | haha, yes | [20:15] |
benkay | omgaweseom | [20:16] |
deadweasel | westbrook | [20:16] |
benkay | omgawesome | [20:16] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao | [20:16] |
deadweasel | benkay: where are you? | [20:16] |
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gabridome | Sincerly FabianB: thank you for your assistance but to manage more than one version of ruby or to compile Ruby on a non Linux environment is much further my knowledge. I'll wait a bit if brew issue a new formula for Ruby | [20:16] |
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FabianB | gabridome: np | [20:17] |
gabridome | ruby | [20:17] |
gabridome | np? | [20:17] |
gabridome | ah no problem. | [20:18] |
gabridome | what | [20:19] |
FabianB | if i'm around i like to help, but i probably won't support 1.8, since it's old and no good irc libs out for it | [20:19] |
FabianB | also in a high speed train right now, not really stable internet :) | [20:20] |
gabridome | yeah I guessed it. better to wait for better libs | [20:20] |
gabridome | http://mpex.coinbr.com/ on line! Am I drunk? | [20:21] |
benkay | nope | [20:22] |
FabianB | Rick__: ^^ | [20:22] |
benkay | *cheers* | [20:22] |
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mircea_popescu | sweet. | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | applause for jurov. | [20:22] |
jurov | oh, that remains to be seen | [20:23] |
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gabridome | clap clap. Is it possible to remove:"The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked. Established August 2011" it looks strange... ;) | [20:23] |
mircea_popescu | strange, how ? :D | [20:23] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 99 @ 0.1737 = 17.1963 BTC [+] | [20:24] |
gabridome | I swear I swear that I wanted to bet... | [20:24] |
gabridome | I have to modify my shell script.. | [20:26] |
gabridome | changed my shell script: https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh/blob/master/mpex.sh | [20:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499999 = 1.21 BTC [+] | [20:30] |
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Lyspooner | did the mpex ddos'er at least pay a subscription fee to MP? | [20:35] |
Lyspooner | seems unfair if not | [20:36] |
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mircea_popescu | Lyspooner lol how do you figure ? | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | also kakobrekla, mind changing the topic ? | [20:36] |
smickles | "These keys are only used when there are other recipients given either by use of --recipient or by the asked user id. No trust checking is performed for these user ids and even disabled keys can be used." | [20:38] |
smickles | lol, woops | [20:38] |
jurov | Lyspooner, like, he issued gigabytes of STAT requests? | [20:40] |
smickles | gabridome: pull request ;) | [20:41] |
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maximian | FabianB: your mpex gem is excellent | [20:41] |
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smickles | oh hey mircea_popescu, you should ident and repost the new keyid | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | okay | [20:43] |
smickles | so we know it's fo' realzies | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | ;;eauth mircea_popescu | [20:43] |
gribble | Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | (you know it was published ion trilema a while back) | [20:43] |
smickles | did not know, is trilema back up? | [20:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499999 = 1.21 BTC [+] | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3b6fd8223825264e5fc51a61232399173363cd6a3672c77d8374c3e7 | [20:44] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | aha. ok so : new mpex key 3D57448E80A56F64F1D35E8F14460196CFE0F3E1 / CFE0F3E1 | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | also mpex.coinbr.com back online | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | smickles nope | [20:45] |
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smickles | mpex PUSH is awesome :D | [20:45] |
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dub | coinbr still down though eh | [20:49] |
pizzaman1337 | why a new key? | [20:49] |
dub | not processing orders anyway | [20:49] |
pizzaman1337 | I noticed it was rejecting my orders | [20:49] |
pigeons | cause he's too lasy to extend expiration | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | dub make sure you're using new mpex key/ | [20:50] |
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mircea_popescu | pizzaman1337 cause the old one expired | [20:50] |
* | kakobrekla has changed the topic to: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ || CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://mpex.coinbr.com/ | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | and it was too short anyway | [20:50] |
kakobrekla | like ziz? | [20:50] |
dub | mircea_popescu: using coinbr ont the proxy | [20:50] |
dub | not* | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | a, coinbr sucks, don't use it | [20:51] |
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gabridome | smickless: remember to change youKeyID and to put eventually the esclamation point | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | dub but seriously, will be back momentarily. | [20:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [+] | [20:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499997 BTC [-] | [20:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [+] | [20:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [+] | [20:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [-] | [20:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499999 BTC [-] | [20:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.605 BTC [+] | [20:58] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.18 = 0.54 BTC [+] | [21:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2758 @ 0.00598314 = 16.5015 BTC [+] | [21:03] |
pizzaman1337 | mircea_popescu: gpg doesn't seem to be able to find that key for me, would you mind posting the key block somewhere? | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [21:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.59999999 BTC [-] | [21:06] |
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kakobrekla | !mp http://dpaste.com/1018523/ | [21:07] |
assbot | Processing. | [21:07] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1018524/plain/ | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | pizzaman1337 http://pastebin.com/9M25zBr7 | [21:07] |
pizzaman1337 | thanks | [21:07] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+] | [21:08] |
kakobrekla | !mp http://dpaste.com/1018525/ | [21:09] |
assbot | Processing. | [21:09] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1018527/plain/ | [21:09] |
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kakobrekla | !mp http://dpaste.com/1018529/ | [21:12] |
assbot | Processing. | [21:12] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1018530/plain/ | [21:12] |
kakobrekla | !mp http://dpaste.com/1018531/ | [21:13] |
assbot | Processing. | [21:13] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1018532/plain/ | [21:13] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [+] | [21:14] |
pizzaman1337 | nice to see S.DICE up a bit | [21:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [+] | [21:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499999 = 1.21 BTC [+] | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla did it work ? | [21:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.60499998 = 1.21 BTC [-] | [21:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.60499999 = 1.815 BTC [+] | [21:18] |
kakobrekla | who what where? | [21:18] |
kakobrekla | the bot, works. | [21:18] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [+] | [21:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [-] | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | a kk. | [21:20] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.60499998 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.60499999 = 2.42 BTC [+] | [21:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [+] | [21:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 846 @ 0.00599989 = 5.0759 BTC [+] | [21:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1654 @ 0.006 = 9.924 BTC [+] | [21:21] |
gabridome | mircea_popescu:the new key is 1024 long and has no expiry date. Is it ok? | [21:22] |
pigeons | dont bother asking the fingerprint, just the lenght and expiry date | [21:23] |
mircea_popescu | it has no expiry date but it's 4kb | [21:23] |
gabridome | key ID: 14460196CFE0F3E1? | [21:24] |
pizzaman1337 | kakobrekla: bot to arb S.DICE on mpex/havelock? | [21:24] |
FabianB | maximian: thanks, if you have any suggestions i'll constantly try to improve it | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | gabridome sounds right. | [21:24] |
kakobrekla | pizzaman1337 it should be done, but depth is kinda meh | [21:25] |
pigeons | speaking of | [21:25] |
pizzaman1337 | yeah, really small | [21:25] |
pigeons | topace_: looks like your mpex transfer script needs to look for the sig by the new mpex key | [21:25] |
gabridome | so I guess gpg tools keyring doesn't read well the lenght(?) mmhhh | [21:25] |
kakobrekla | pigeons doing manual arb? | [21:25] |
gabridome | I've got to check something | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | gabridome the old one was 1k/4k | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | im sorry. 1k/2k | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | thios one is 1k/4k. | [21:26] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71997 BTC [-] | [21:28] |
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gabridome | yeah..Beg your pardon. You should be tierd to answer question to newbies. I didn't check the subkeys... | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | i don't mind | [21:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000725 = 0.0022 BTC [+] | [21:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 35 @ 0.00549 = 0.1922 BTC [-] | [21:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 12 @ 0.00066 = 0.0079 BTC [-] | [21:33] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00585 = 0.2925 BTC [-] | [21:34] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 37 @ 0.00999 = 0.3696 BTC [+] | [21:36] |
maximian | Here's something interesting - the average SatoshiDice bet size doesn't appear to relate to the BTC/USD exchange rate as many assume. Analysis by dooglus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1606184#msg1606184 | [21:37] |
gabridome | I've updated the shell script with the id of the new key https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh/blob/master/mpex.sh | [21:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00585 = 0.0878 BTC [-] | [21:38] |
maximian | it could be that the rise in the exchange rate is being offset by more players | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | maximian interesting. | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | when was that released ? | [21:42] |
maximian | today | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | might explain the s.dice surge | [21:43] |
maximian | could be… we might see a nice recovery back to the .0070s | [21:44] |
pizzaman1337 | big wall at 0.00622500 though | [21:44] |
maximian | yep, and trade volume is still light. probably no big moves without some news. | [21:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71997 BTC [-] | [21:47] |
maximian | still, nice to see some some demand return | [21:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00075 = 1.5 BTC [+] | [21:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71998 BTC [+] | [21:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.71998 BTC [+] | [21:53] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [-] | [21:55] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1799 = 0.3598 BTC [-] | [21:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.23 = 1.38 BTC [+] | [21:59] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-] | [22:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-] | [22:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-] | [22:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.66 = 1.98 BTC [-] | [22:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] | [22:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] | [22:00] |
topace_ | pigeons: yea, i need to get that new key in there | [22:00] |
topace_ | gotta find the details on it.. since mpex is down i dont know where to look | [22:01] |
topace_ | (mpex.co website down, i mean) | [22:01] |
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topace_ | is there a working mpex proxy besides the bot here? | [22:02] |
MJR__ | lol mined 50 Ltc last night dumping it now | [22:03] |
topace_ | can't even get to mp's blog to get the gpg key data | [22:03] |
MJR__ | yeah I miss polimedia | [22:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [+] | [22:04] |
jurov | https://github.com/jurov/pyMPEx new mpex key was not done properly, changing mpex url via -m commandline switch | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | topace yes, mpex.coinbr.com works | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | also, key : | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | http://pastebin.com/9M25zBr7 | [22:06] |
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mjr_ | whats up jurov how you been? | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | i mean topace_ ^ | [22:07] |
mjr_ | that was a nice experience, ltc into btc-e, traded for btc, and gone back to coinbr in less than a half hour | [22:07] |
jurov | mjr_ well, i got sick of the whole situation (as if i catched cold) | [22:08] |
mjr_ | what situation? | [22:08] |
topace_ | mircea_popescu: please confirm fingerprint: 3D57 448E 80A5 6F64 F1D3 5E8F 1446 0196 CFE0 F3E1 ? | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | 3D57448E80A56F64F1D35E8F14460196CFE0F3E1 / CFE0F3E1 yeh | [22:10] |
FabianB | released mpex cli 0.4.5 which includes new mpex key in default config, basic orderbook in http and irc version (https://github.com/fawuxi/mpex) | [22:11] |
jurov | mjr_ had to very quickly move whole site and learn how amazon ec2 works | [22:11] |
FabianB | if there are existing users: key can be changed in ~/.mpex/config.yaml | [22:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.23 = 0.46 BTC [+] | [22:15] |
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topace_ | pympex keeps telling me invalid signature,. but i have the new one in my keyring, and its signed | [22:21] |
topace_ | oh its telling me to email you my public key first | [22:23] |
topace_ | 2013-03-10T16:21:04.028098 Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first. | [22:23] |
FabianB | topace_: did you edit in the new one in the source? | [22:24] |
jurov | topace, did you upgrade to my versionabove? | [22:24] |
topace_ | jurov: yes i did just did a fresh git clone | [22:24] |
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mircea_popescu | hm | [22:24] |
pizzaman1337 | pympex works for me, I just edited the key. Make sure you sign the new one too. | [22:25] |
topace_ | ah there we go | [22:25] |
topace_ | got it | [22:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0059998 = 11.9996 BTC [-] | [22:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.602 = 3.01 BTC [-] | [22:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.601 = 3.005 BTC [-] | [22:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.600002 = 5.4 BTC [-] | [22:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [-] | [22:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-] | [22:29] |
topace_ | pigeons: mpex transfer should work again now | [22:29] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.00999 = 0.1399 BTC [+] | [22:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.59 = 5.9 BTC [-] | [22:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.59 = 2.95 BTC [-] | [22:47] |
kakobrekla | what that, two klins? | [22:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.59 = 4.72 BTC [-] | [22:49] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-] | [22:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 31 @ 0.1853 = 5.7443 BTC [-] | [22:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.18521 = 1.4817 BTC [-] | [22:56] |
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dub | rule 1 of amurika, thou shalt not disparage driving around in a circle http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/racing/news/20130308/nascar-fine-denny-hamlin-las-vegas-preview/ | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | dub the funny thing is, one of the things american ppl in england tend to mock is the roundabouts | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | and yet... | [22:59] |
deadweasel | i'm american, I love roundabouts | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | well maybe i was stereotyping unwarrantedly. | [23:00] |
MJR__ | gonna drive straight, then turn to the left | [23:00] |
dub | turning right is the devils work | [23:00] |
MJR__ | did you see that South Park? | [23:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
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topace_ | mircea_popescu: so i just got a push receipt, that validates, but there arent any extra units in my account to account for the push? | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | that is strange. let me look | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident topace_ | [23:12] |
gribble | Nick 'topace_', with hostmask 'topace_!~kvirc@CPEc0c1c03be745-CM00407b85cf6f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com', is not identified. | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | id please ? | [23:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.0059998 = 0.36 BTC [-] | [23:13] |
topace_ | 08AEAC40F3086E6131B39762A49472A32D4FCE50 | [23:13] |
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mircea_popescu | if you can't id with that i'll have to ask you to sign something. | [23:14] |
topace_ | ;;ident topace | [23:14] |
gribble | Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is not identified. | [23:14] |
pigeons | ;;ident topace_ | [23:14] |
gribble | Nick 'topace_', with hostmask 'topace_!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is not identified. | [23:14] |
topace_ | hmm guess i never setup gpg with gribble | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | sign a short explanation, date it, limit it and pastebin | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | "this is to prove key ownership over irc session 10 mar 2013 not valid for any other purpose" | [23:15] |
topace_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603186/ | [23:17] |
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mjr_ | how do i link a btc address with gribble? | [23:24] |
mjr_ | ;;identr | [23:24] |
gribble | Error: "identr" is not a valid command. | [23:24] |
mjr_ | ;;ident | [23:24] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [23:24] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [23:25] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address None | [23:25] |
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Josh_Rossi | so i can't find any info on the wiki about adding a bitcoin address | [23:32] |
Azelphur | Josh_Rossi: care to elaborate on what you're trying to do? | [23:34] |
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dub | add btc address to his otc user I think | [23:36] |
dub | ;;guide | [23:36] |
gribble | Error: "guide" is not a valid command. | [23:36] |
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Josh_Rossi | ;;ident | [23:40] |
gribble | You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX | [23:40] |
pigeons | its ;;changeaddress | [23:40] |
Josh_Rossi | thanks guys | [23:40] |
Josh_Rossi | yeah, i got it, i thought that was going to change my pgp address | [23:40] |
dub | the docs are retarded | [23:40] |
Josh_Rossi | but i realized that you are just changing the btc address from none to whatever | [23:41] |
Josh_Rossi | well, i got that all taken care of | [23:41] |
dub | so can you ident via bitcoin key now? | [23:41] |
Josh_Rossi | i think so | [23:42] |
Anduck | yes | [23:42] |
Anduck | do ;;bcauth and when you get the string | [23:42] |
Anduck | sign it with the btc addr | [23:42] |
Josh_Rossi | but i already set up a script to do it with pgp | [23:42] |
Anduck | then do ;;bcverify |
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Anduck | bitcoin is so much better imo | [23:43] |
Anduck | xD | [23:43] |
Anduck | i havent touched my gpg since that | [23:43] |
vampireb | !help | [23:43] |
assbot | List of commands: | [23:43] |
assbot | !ticker |
[23:43] |
assbot | !mp |
[23:43] |
vampireb | !ticker mpex s.dice | [23:43] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005884 / 0.00594534 / 0.006 (30318 shares, 180.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0056036 / 0.006225 (414146 shares, 2,320.71 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00616133 / 0.0069 (3639066 shares, 22,421.49 BTC) | [23:43] |
Josh_Rossi | well, i kind of want to start using pgp for certain emails | [23:43] |
Josh_Rossi | i had a long discussion with someone about how online identities may become much more valuable than social security numbers or drivers licenses | [23:44] |
Josh_Rossi | because while you do need those | [23:44] |
Josh_Rossi | you don't use them as often as you go online | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | certainly true. | [23:45] |
vampireb | that's why you start creating few seperate identities | [23:45] |
Josh_Rossi | and for the most part in real life, people trust you to be you cuz you look the same | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | moreover, if i lost my id i would be meh, send someone to get a new one | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | if i lost my gpg key i'd be like... | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | o god. | [23:45] |
Josh_Rossi | hehehe yeah | [23:45] |
mircea_popescu | there's no words. | [23:45] |
Josh_Rossi | scary thought | [23:46] |
error4733 | amnesia | [23:46] |
Josh_Rossi | is there some sort of certificate system? | [23:46] |
error4733 | car accident or what | [23:46] |
Josh_Rossi | like key signing? or does gribble basically do that for us | [23:46] |
Josh_Rossi | i mean fulfill the role that a key signing party would have fulfilled | [23:47] |
Josh_Rossi | i literally feel like i'm living cryptonomicon | [23:47] |
Josh_Rossi | i assume that everyone has read or is aware of that book...but if not it is amazing book about cryptography and digital currencies that was written before btc took off i think | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | Josh_Rossi you mean the wot ? | [23:49] |
Josh_Rossi | yeah '99 it was written | [23:49] |
Josh_Rossi | yes, does the WoT take the role of a key signing party | [23:49] |
Josh_Rossi | or a certificate authority | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | um | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | rather than the nominalist approach, try the functional | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | what are you trying to do ? | [23:50] |
Josh_Rossi | lol, as of right now, nothing | [23:50] |
dub | no, wot is just a wot | [23:50] |
Josh_Rossi | or i guess more accurately, learn more about how trust and cryptography are related | [23:50] |
Josh_Rossi | for example | [23:50] |
Josh_Rossi | i saw MPOE-PR show a sig that verified that she was authorized to speak on behalf of MPOE | [23:51] |
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Josh_Rossi | So, I imported your key | [23:51] |
Josh_Rossi | and verified that you signed it | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [23:52] |
Josh_Rossi | but it also said something like "this message is signed by this key, but that does not mean that it is really him" | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | that's nonsense. | [23:53] |
Josh_Rossi | no no no | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | what they mean is, anyone can create a key which would be named "Joe" | [23:53] |
Josh_Rossi | someone with access to that private key | [23:53] |
Josh_Rossi | yes exactly | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | however, you didn't identify the key by it being named joe | [23:53] |
FabianB | Josh_Rossi: yeah stephensons cryptonomicon is a fantastic book | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | you identified it by my keyid. so... | [23:53] |
Josh_Rossi | i guess they are saying that while that key is definitely valid | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | the label on it is arbitrary | [23:54] |
Josh_Rossi | yes true | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | exactly. | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [23:54] |
Josh_Rossi | and in your case, it is known that that is your key | [23:54] |
Josh_Rossi | but in the case of someone else | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | ya hence the key signing parties and whatnot. | [23:55] |
Josh_Rossi | all i know is that they say "this is my pub key" | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | originally these keys were invented for and used by people whose real world presence was more important to each other | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | gpg kinda predates the internet | [23:55] |
Josh_Rossi | yeah | [23:55] |
Josh_Rossi | just checking if i understood it correctly | [23:56] |
Josh_Rossi | i trust that they key i used was really you | [23:56] |
dub | for us it doesnt matter if its really him | [23:56] |
Josh_Rossi | and then i can see that the key actually signed that statement | [23:56] |
dub | or that he is who he says he is | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | that's the idea, whart dub says | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | you're not really verifying that the key is really this bloke in timisoara you couldn't care less about | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | you're really veryifying that the key signing here is the same key signing there | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | as for instance on mpex etc. | [23:57] |
Josh_Rossi | yes of course | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | so it's an identity in that more mathematical sense, not in the more psychological sense of the term. | [23:57] |
Josh_Rossi | that is what i was trying to say, that it is consistent across different channels | [23:57] |
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Josh_Rossi | the same person who runs mpex also wrote a statement saying that mpoe-pr is authorized to speak on its behalf | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | yah | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | if that matches, it could be called obama for all you care. | [23:58] |
Josh_Rossi | yes | [23:58] |
Josh_Rossi | true | [23:58] |
Josh_Rossi | i'm trying to build a ticker now using websockets | [23:59] |
Josh_Rossi | but the rest of the front end uses C# | [23:59] |
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